Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “KUNTUMN” (w/ Sudi Green)

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

If you thought Summer of KUNT was dead, well… maybe you would be right actually. Or MAYBE you would see it as an opportunity to herald the arrival of the first ever KUNTUMN, during which returning l...egend Sudi Green inspires us all to get in our full woman-in-her-30s bag. Join the boys as they record from a Las Cultch Cultural Heritage Site (Matt’s LA apartment) and talk the first episodes of “The Morning Show” season three. What follows is a spirited discussion on Lauren Boebert’s perfectly moving hair during her game of Find the Sausage at “Beetlejuice,” what Matt and Bowen would order at any given restaurant, affirmation water bottle culture, and if comedy is “hee HEE ha-ho, ha HA hee HAY” or “ho HA HA hey-hey HEE ha hoi.” All that plus a debut of Matt’s latest song “When Two Men Kiss (It Is Amazing)” and a test to see if “Reba has no top lip” is a good conversation starter. As Sudi Green may have once said to a little girl, “Diva, welcome to America, baby.” It’s more of THIS every KUNTUMN.  Bonus episodes are available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there wow is that culture yes goodness wow ding dong las culturistas calling what's a call when there's one film and then there's another the sequel you might say this is the sequel to an episode that we did a few weeks ago in my long island city home because now we're in my Franklin Village home. This is an important cultural heritage site for lost cult.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I don't mean to self-thologize, but I think this is the room where we did Top 200. This is the room where it happened. And I hope that we all know what I'm talking about. Of course, the musical Hamilton. The musical Hamilton. Well, there was also a room where another thing happened
Starting point is 00:02:29 and it was this room and it was the top 200 moments in culture. And this episode is not like other girls either. This is an episode that is the sequel to last week's episode or the week where we did from your apartment in Long Island City. It's also a sequel installment to a long-running series.
Starting point is 00:02:49 This is the long-running series, except here's the thing. Because it's not summer. It technically is. No. And can we have this discussion? For me, summer's over. Counterpoint? Are you one of those people?
Starting point is 00:02:59 Counterpoint? Are you saying it ends with Labor Day because there's another third camp that's like... The Equinox. No, they say, you know, pride isn't over till Halloween. Pride isn't over till Halloween? It's a certain kind of... Individual.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Individual who, to them, summer means dressing up in outfits that you coordinate with your friends. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And that spirit lives on through Halloween. We need to lengthen fall. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Who do we call? I think that we can make this decision. Okay. I guess I am coming out right now as like a hard summer ends after Labor Day person. Well, you, it couldn't end soon enough for you because you really came out. You liberated a lot of people, I think.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You put a voice to this movement of like, suffer is not, it's not really that girl. And I see it. I'm looking for cleansing, I guess where I am in my life right now, my sister is I need a cleanse. And do you remember we've taken iconic trips and sort of the wilderness of
Starting point is 00:04:04 upstate New York. And I need a fall moment. I need a rebirth. I need to walk out into the briskness. I'm tired of all this heat. I want a fall moment. And that is part of the reason
Starting point is 00:04:16 why I'm so happy that we're doing this episode not in the throes of summer or with summer to quote unquote look forward to. It's a new era for the quote unquote summer of cunt series. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:04:28 and so were we saying that it's cuntum? I love this. Cuntum. Cuntum. So K-U-N-T U-M-N. It's the first cuntum. It's not summer of cunt six. It's the first cuntum.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And I am so excited about this. I'm so excited about this. To bring in the cuntum season. Yes. Our guest just threw a fucking throw around herself. Yeah, it was actually giving Selena. It's really giving comfy vibes now. It's getting
Starting point is 00:05:00 ooh, I had a chill. So I got my throw. I love to refer to things as a throw. Sometimes even if I have a hooded sweats got my throw I love to refer to things as a throw sometimes even if I have a hooded sweatshirt I call it my throw like I got my throw
Starting point is 00:05:11 I forgot my throw you know it's kind of a violent word I never liked that word as it applies to like a layer you didn't like it
Starting point is 00:05:21 I didn't like it and that's okay yeah I love it and that's okay. Yeah, I love it. And that's okay. Quantum also reminds me of the Kuntun, the whales from Avatar. The whales from Avatar, the way of water. Oh, they passed.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We can't talk about it all the time. No, it's going to be too sad. The only media I want to talk about before we get into it with our guest is if you thought the third graders were not going to understand the assignment on the morning show season three, you know, they they're on their honor.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Have more faith. My Christian, my Christian, these third graders are in the honors program or not the honors program, the gifted and talented. They are GT. They're GT. They're doing an incredible job.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I am so proud of my girls, my third graders in the morning show writers room because Bradley Jackson was at two places. Off screen, she was at the insurrection. Inside the Capitol, getting footage. And on screen, she was in space. They launched Reese Witherspoon into space on the program. In the first episode.
Starting point is 00:06:29 The only other two people in that chamber was the Elon Musk equivalent of this world. And for some reason, the head of this legacy media network. Yeah. Why are these the three people in space? Bowen. And then while it's happening for there to be a cyber attack this was a bad day for tms this was over uba this was a rough day for uba
Starting point is 00:06:55 and i was so saddened when i heard that reese witherspoon bradley jackson was caught diddling herself on her phone and now there's a video of reese witherspoon, Bradley Jackson, was caught diddling herself on her phone. And now there's a video of Reese Witherspoon diddling herself on her phone. And maybe she sent it to Julianna Margulies and it got out. It's being used as revenge porn against them. $50 million ransom. So much happened in the last episode.
Starting point is 00:07:17 If you're not caught up with the morning show, please, I implore you. When they showed the previously on and they recapped the whole first two seasons, I was screaming laughing all the time. It's all the craziest plot lines. But now they get it. They get it now.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I think so. Anyway, we are chomping at the bit, because not only is there, like, ripe culture out there, but there's also our favorite guest of all time. Our favorite guest of all time. This is, and we're being serious now. A lot of you have been asking for this episode like ripe culture out there, but there's also our favorite guest of all time. Our favorite guest of all time. This is, and we're being serious now. A lot of you have been asking for this episode.
Starting point is 00:07:49 A lot of you have been saying, where is the Summer of Con episode? And then someone on the Reddit, yeah, we look at the Reddit. Someone even said, there's probably beef. These girls always go to beef. Here to squash the beef is our guests. You know her, you love her. Welcome her into your ears. Squash the beef is our guest you know or you'll ever welcome her into your ears squash the beef what's going on so fucking mad at you guys why just kidding i'm not did you feel
Starting point is 00:08:14 you had a summer of cunt even without this episode no i agree with you that summer is a lot of pressure i think we need to take the era out of summer because summer, there's like, I remember every summer when I was a kid, I was like, this is the summer that I transform. No. And everybody's going to go, who's that girl? And you know, fall is a return to self. Yes. It's a return to baseline. We don't have to constantly be reinventing ourselves, people.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Sometimes what you got is good. Yeah, totally. And I would argue not to blow up your spot, but you've had a pretty cunty summer. You think? It's been strike summer. Yeah, but I- Cunty for the strike.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Cunty for the strike. Strike hunt. But you have, but I think you've had a wonderful, fabulous summer. And I think that we should celebrate. Well, thank you. Between ourselves. Are you being public about your boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Well. We can cut it out. I'm not being not public. So here's the thing about Summer of Cunt. I didn't want to go up. Summer of Cunt used to be an episode where we were like, now let's really self-examine. And then I think about doing that
Starting point is 00:09:26 on this podcast nowadays and I'm like, I don't know, some things have to be held close to the chest. But this is what Sudie is saying. We all think of Summer, we all want Summer to be this transformative experience. It's like, to quote another Sudie thing, not everything has to be
Starting point is 00:09:42 important. Do you know what I mean? Oh my god, I forgot I said that. It's one of the most important things you've ever said and not to be ironic but that that is an important quote not everything has to be important say not everything has to be important i think you've said it many times over the years i can't trace it back to the things that i say no no no i remind you all the time return to self like human life is suffering human life is suffering. Human life is suffering, which is the two of you talking about Mad Men in college when it was on. She said Mad Men is a successful
Starting point is 00:10:10 show because it understands that human life is suffering. She was 19. You know who also said that was Stutz. Anybody watch Stutz? That Jonah Hill doc? Don't watch it. Guess what? I was about to and then the text came out and I said, I don't need to watch this. I feel like I've met three people who are
Starting point is 00:10:25 like, yeah, Stutz is my therapist too. Like, I don't think it's that big of a deal to be like with Stutz. He's like the guy. Have you ever had this? They literally see him. He's like LA therapist, like everybody going to Stutz. I personally know people who see
Starting point is 00:10:41 Orna. Really? Yes. I've told you about the people who see Orna. You have, you have, you have. Yeah. But it's just so surreal to be a famous therapist. And then have celebrity clients. Right. Patients.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So I go to therapy here in LA and I recently asked my therapist, do you have any like A-list clients? And she just did like a solemn nod, like, mm-hmm. She broke her back. She didn't know. She would never tell me a name, but I was like, do you have any like big,
Starting point is 00:11:05 big, big, big names? And she was basically like, yeah. And she said that one person is dating someone that's really, really, really famous.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And exclusively what they talk about is her relationship with that person's fans. Like a mall Clooney. It's a mall. It's a mall. Oh my God. I wouldn't i i feel like my therapist has me in a trance that they've like never heard of anybody that i talk about like i don't think that's true but i love that she like professional is basically like when you say
Starting point is 00:11:39 a certain person's word name certain person's word when you say the word of a certain person's name yeah lasuti was like what if i'm not up to date on the culture and i was like and there's only one thing i really want to talk about to anyone who listened and you mentioned it earlier which is lauren bobert getting her jugs felt up oh at the musical in denver i started to feel fucked up about the amount of times i'd watch the video today. I was like, when does this cross the line? Immediately. It immediately crosses the line. What are you saying? No, I'm saying for me to keep watching it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I see. But watching it, it is really shocking how collegiate it is. They are college students. Do you remember at Disney, when we sat next to that couple? And you felt up my jugs.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And I said, hey, stop touching my jugs. Stop. I'm trying to watch Beetlejuice. Do you remember we were at STK at Disney Springs? Uh-huh. And we were next to this Orange County Florida couple. Sitting on the same side. A fair couple.
Starting point is 00:12:44 A fair couple or second marriage couple i feel like you might be onto something with second marriage i think that they were both divorced and both very much working on their bodies and both like i can still turn this around right yeah it was giving like orange county is exactly and she was wearing a white Hervé Leger dress. Memory. I don't know if you guys know the iconography of the Hervé Leger dress. And the fact that she was wearing one, I feel like is so important to talk about.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's a special occasion dress. It is the timeless... If you're Lauren Boebert, or if you live in Orange County, or you live in Florida, if you're Lauren Boebert, the biggest night of your life or you live in Florida if you're Lauren Boebert the biggest night of your life you break out the Hervé Leger you break out and this was a huge night for Lauren and this man
Starting point is 00:13:33 I want to know what her shoes were I bet they were like Lofler Randall there's footage of her being escorted out I only watched the pointy part for anyone that doesn't understand what this is lauren bobert who is a congresswoman from colorado the third district basically the half of the state yeah you know her but if you don't she's like an mtg type and she's kind of like leading the charge she's the one that's like you know drag, drag queens are grooming kids. She's one of the worst people in the country.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And she was recently felt up in such a disruptive way in the audience at Beetlejuice the musical when it came through regionally in Colorado that she was asked to leave. She was also vaping in her seat and they were talking loud. Apparently the vaping was covered. Was the theater being like the cover was people being like we don't want to embarrass her and say what she was actually doing which was literally violently mutual groping this man but it was let's just say she was vaping and i don't think there's actual footage of her vaping oh never mind according to what i'm looking at twitter well so isn't that so considerate of the theater or whoever, I love it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Whoever had to put out this news or whatever to be like, she was caught vaping. Like you didn't mention the craziest part, which is, was that she was getting her jugs felt up and she was like finding the sausage. She was finding the sausage. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:00 I couldn't fathom the video. I also, I can't describe it, but the funniest thing about it for me is how much her hair like moves in it. It looks gorgeous. It looks stunning. Her wig is so top notch. And just the way she's like moving.
Starting point is 00:15:16 She's the government. This is why I say our first female president will be a Republican. Yeah, because I think it will be Miss Haley. I'm not gonna put that out there but no no way what i think no way well i just feel like people can rally around that type of image yeah totally everyone has an understanding of that it's not like some yeah exactly it's so funny though like it's truly part of me is like i hate her so much but i kind of in a way makes me like her a little bit i have to say i think i can guys be careful i i'm gonna be really careful when i say this
Starting point is 00:15:52 i definitely i'm like yeah for sure i recognize this behavior and i know even now more than ever she should not be in congress or just like she's a hypocrite it's not that she did it i have no problem with somebody doing that actually but it's that It's the fact that she's a hypocrite. It's not that she did it. I have no problem with somebody doing that, actually. But it's that she's such a fucking evil, sanctimonious... It's that she's like Drag Queen's groomed kid. Yeah. Accusing everybody of being... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah. Did you also say... By the way, we're being facetious, but nothing about this woman is likable in the least. She's one of the most evil people in government. But I will say that there was something about her explanation that she released where she was
Starting point is 00:16:29 like, I don't know if it was the excitement of a big new production. Like, this idea that you could get so excited about regional theater that you're actually horned. Can I say something? Theater is back. Okay? in a huge way.
Starting point is 00:16:46 The Princess Peach game that's coming out next year takes place at the theater. Wow. And she has to save the theater because the villain is ruining the production of the play that she's seeing
Starting point is 00:16:56 and she has to get on stage and like fight enemies. Isn't that genius? That's amazing. Theater is here to stay. Oh, did I tell you the plot of the new Splash Mountain ride? They're turning into Princess Tati's Bay oh did I tell you the plot of the new Splash Mountain ride
Starting point is 00:17:06 they're turning into Princess Tati's Bayou Dip what's the plot she is sending you out into the I guess the bayou
Starting point is 00:17:13 to find ingredients for her gumbo for her gumbo I love Sly obsessed Sudi just made us an amazing chicken soup
Starting point is 00:17:22 it was a really good chicken soup and I described it as vegetable forward wow well you know I know my boys love soup yeah that's kind of been like you guys are talking about like pop culture and like stuff like that like the shows and like that stuff and i'm kind of like let's talk about tomatoes because that was my summer okay you really do you love your little garden i I am. La gardenista. La gardenista.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I've become such a woman in her 30s so hard this year. I really am feeling like just being home and making soup and tomatoes. But also, I do go out and I do party. But that was like my summer. Your garden started to take up not only more room in terms of physical space, but also more room in terms of emotional space. Absolutely. Yes. Cuntum. That is cuntum. The soup is cuntum symbol. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:12 You know? You understand? And I know my boys love soup. So what am I going to do? Bowen is really more of a stew person. You both love soup. You both iconically love a hot, grothy thing. I bet I could go to a restaurant and guess what you guys were going to order off the menu. Do you want to bet?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. I always bet I could know what you would order. We're going to McDonald's. What are we ordering? Yeah. What's our McDonald's order? Big Mac. She's looking at Bowen right now.
Starting point is 00:18:40 You have to say who you're looking at. That's okay. I think you're both getting Big Macs. And I think you're both thinking about getting two. You think I'm getting a Big Mac? Yeah. There's too much tomato on that. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:51 There's no tomato on Big Mac. There's way too much of what I think is going to be tomato. And that's why I didn't order a tomato. So Bowen, you're actually not listening. And you're being very sanctimonious. I'm telling you for a fact. I think there is tomato on the Big Mac and so therefore I wouldn't order it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Can I tell you something? I'm telling you now, there's no tomato! So what I'm saying So you can go to McDonald's and order the Big Mac and no. And so what I'm saying is that she's wrong. I would never have ordered the Big Mac because I think tomato was
Starting point is 00:19:24 on it so she should have known because I think tomato was on it, so she should have known that I think tomato's on it. Can I just say? I've never seen him react like this. It's like closer to real tears. I'm crying. These are real tears. I'm saying this is crazy. I'm saying there's no tomato
Starting point is 00:19:40 in Big Mac. Right, and so what I'm saying is I don't think there is. So if Sudi knew me and knew what i was going to order at a restaurant she would know he's not going to order the big mac he thinks there's tomato on even though he's wrong that makes yeah no yes it does you're not thinking you have to go you always say the first fucking thing that comes to your mind you don't think i do oh my god sorry i don't know why. I do. I do. Oh, my God. Sorry. I don't know why that broke me.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Mine is a number too large for the Dr. Pepper. That's two cheeseburgers? Okay. Yeah. No, but it's harder at McDonald's because all the foods are kind of the same. But, like, I know if we went to, like, an Italian restaurant, I would know what you would order. Go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Okay. You, Matt, would order, like, meat red sauce. Whatever pasta had, like, meat red sauce on it. Yes, go ahead. Say the name. Chicken Parmesan. And chicken Parmesan. And with what side?
Starting point is 00:20:30 You can do this. Spaghetti. Good. Yeah. Okay. And at an Italian restaurant. Uh-huh. I know what he's getting.
Starting point is 00:20:38 You're getting like a beef short rib. Okay. Close-ish. Matt, you know? I think you're getting like the pasta and the white sauce you guys don't know me this is crazy are you getting arrabbiata i'll get an arrabbiata but mostly i'm i'll always always meatballs it's always the bolognese literally you guys i got you guys i'm really sorry i'm really sorry. I'm not actually mad.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Guess me and please say Branzino. Because if you don't say Branzino, I'll cry. I say Branzino with broccolini. I don't know about the broccolini. I think you went too far. I think you overcorrected. Yeah, I would definitely get rigatoni. Or like, you know what I love? Like a white sauce with shrimp. You also love to suggest sharing a salad
Starting point is 00:21:24 and it's always that thing of like... You think's performative say it it's not i know you're not dying for the baby sometimes you need a little roughy you do you need a little roughy edge at every meal i still don't eat enough vegetables at this age at my big age we all could be eating more honey because it's got to be half that plate i know and is that number correct yeah what are you better at making sure you drink enough water or making sure you eat enough vegetables? Water. Water.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Water is so easy. I always want it. Water is so easy. Do you remember those massive water bottles on I Love That For You that everybody had? Yes. Tell me about the water bottles. What was it?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Was it Poonam that had it? And I think Molly had it. And Vanessa had one and Molly had one. So it's this water bottle. Oh, I've seen Molly. When Molly came to host, she had it and I think Vanessa had one and Molly had one so it's this water bottle I've seen Molly when Molly came to host she had that says the time and it has these like phrases like you go you're doing great yeah it's like an affirmation
Starting point is 00:22:14 water bottle that has the time on it and so basically like as you drink you should be at a certain time it is all the water you need to drink that day and then Sarah Sherman ordered me Celeste and Sarah those exact ones. It's too much water. It's actually too big of a bottle.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I think that it got to a point where so many people on set were carrying a full-on personal junk. No, I actually don't like that. Everybody just looked like hamsters walking around wearing like pants and stuff. Yeah, it's totally hamster in the cage. I really don't like the straws that come with those things say speak on that and i want to say like i have a stanley over there too and the straws that come with the stanley it's my one thing i don't love about why are water bottles 100 can we talk about that we have to get to the bottom of this
Starting point is 00:23:01 because we're willing to pay for it think Well, think about this. Could you live without them? No. Exactly. And it's crazy to think about a time where we weren't all carrying around water bottles. But people kind of have been. Do you know what I mean? Now we really are. Now it's like everybody has a water bottle in the hand.
Starting point is 00:23:17 But I'm saying like a hundred years ago, people were carrying around little, you know, little, little. Canteens. Canteens. Well, I was one of the biggest users and consumers of plastic in the country. Like, as I was growing up, like, I was. Oh, me too. Don't worry. You'd be short to find me surrounded by plastic, plastic water bottles, plastic Gatorade bottles, Powerade bottles, really.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's this culture you grew up in. Absolutely. It was a culture of more, more, more. What my family still does, and I don't have anybody to say anything to them, but they really go crazy on those Kirkland Signature
Starting point is 00:23:57 24-pack water bottle boxes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A suburban house will be having a 24 pack of bottle water for sure and you go you don't need this no you don't need any of it right you need a tap and a filter yep yep just to make things remain safe oh my god my mom comes to my place she goes your sink it doesn't have the detachable nozzle i go no mom because we're not in the suburbs i don't like the way you speak to your mother i didn't say it like that i said
Starting point is 00:24:31 no did you see that that's not well it feels like she made a comment on your nice home that you're excited to show her no i may be that i wasn't actually hurt by it, but I was like, well, mom, we just upgraded. My mom, like the minute she walks into an apartment of mine, like if she's never been in there before, like this kind of happened. Oh, brother. When I moved to L.A. and then she came and it's just like the eyes darting to literally every single corner of the home. And you have to talk about it. And it's not like negative from her. Like, oh, good. and you have to talk about it. And it's not like negative from her. Like there's an opinion and there's a comment
Starting point is 00:25:06 because this is also now her space because it's her daughter's place that she decorated. And so now they have to talk about how she did it and where she's putting lamps, et cetera, et cetera. But it must be discussed in every detail. Sure. Because she's involved in her head. Totally.
Starting point is 00:25:22 If I have a kid in my 30s, that moment before I see their place, it's loaded. It's loaded. Totally. If I have a kid in my 30s, that moment before I see their place, it's loaded. It's loaded. You know what I mean? Loaded. One time my mom walked into my room and I had a power cord connecting my laptop over my
Starting point is 00:25:38 room to my bed. And my mom walks in and she says, you're going to trip over this in the middle of the night and kill yourself. And did you? Not yet. This is the current place you said? This was like in my early,
Starting point is 00:25:53 I think it was in the Park Slope place. As a result of her saying that, did you make a change? No. Not at all. It's always, for parents, you're going to trip. My dad is always like, when we first moved to New York, he was like, No. Yeah. Not at all. It's always, for parents, you're going to trip. You're going to trip and fall. My dad is always like, when we first moved to New York, he was like, you guys are going to trip on the subway platform and fall onto the track.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I go, no. Is it because when you're a parent, you just always think about that? Yeah. See, you know what? This is revealing about my parents, though, because for me, it wasn't you're going to trip or you're going to fall. It's you're going to choke on that. Oh, wow was little i think i was they didn't trust you well maybe i guess i was just orally fixated i've my parents are still yeah maybe it was that maybe it was that i think you just were putting a lot of things in there that made me i didn't have a pacifier though i was
Starting point is 00:26:40 never a little chump like that can i ask was there an incident where something was stuck because i had one of those and that has defined has altered the way that my parents talked i've talked about on this pod no i ate a costco dollar 50 costco hot dog and you choked i bit a huge piece didn't chew enough i was like 11 it was not stuck in my windpipe but it would just would not go down the esophagus. I would try to wash it down. I was in that Costco bathroom for two hours. My sister still remembers it very well. My parents are still like,
Starting point is 00:27:15 Bowen, you have to chew your food. Still, they're talking to a 32 year old man. They go, Bowen, you have to chew your food. I said, I know. And I don't yell at them i don't say stop i say i understand because you've been really traumatized so funny when you're like family knows a deeply personal medical thing about you oh and then it's like now we're at dinner and now we're talking about yeah my toe i know i should make an appointment. Okay. I know. I know. It's a really,
Starting point is 00:27:46 it's you're rolling the dice. When you say any, when you open up and share any detail, that's like that, because then they will constantly check up. Like I can't even cough on the phone with my mother without her being like, what's the cough. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:28:01 What's that? You open up, you roll the dice. You roll the dice. You roll the dice you roll the dice you roll the dice you roll the dice that you're not gonna be facing an absolute
Starting point is 00:28:08 arsenal of questions just like now my mom likes to ask about travel she's like what time's the flight what gate is it when is it landing
Starting point is 00:28:18 are you on the plane oh what street are you in what's the fight number what's this will you text me when it takes off? I'll text you when it lands. She's a good flyer.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Every single time I land on the plane, my mother is really, every single time I land on the plane, she texts me and says, landed. She's always right on. I think she goes on the website to see that it lands. Yeah, she absolutely does.
Starting point is 00:28:42 My mom doesn't like that I get on a plane and don't tell her. Oh yeah. I think, I think that there is something to the plane. One time I went to like New York last minute and no, I'm not telling my mom that every second that I book any travel. Well,
Starting point is 00:28:56 it's like, and then she was like, well, you should tell me. Yeah. I think because like when I was little, you guys, you can get a sense of this by the way.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I sometimes behave on planes around you guys. But like when I was little, I was get a sense of this, by the way. I sometimes behave on planes around you guys. But like when I was little, I was a very uncomfortable flyer and didn't like it at all. I was very afraid of it. So I think my mother, it was the fact that how do I explain this? It doesn't make any sense that those things can stay up there to me. Like I know a hunk of metal in the sky and I don't really trust it. I just you know what? I give it to God.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Apparently it works on my edible today. When I sat down on my seat. I just, you know what? I give up to God. Apparently it works. On my edible today when I sat down on my seat, I went we're in a moving hallway. Can't believe you were high on the plane. I haven't done that in years. Oh, I love doing that. Why? Because it makes you more comfortable and relaxed? I'm relaxing. I was watching the morning show on the plane. On the plane
Starting point is 00:29:40 on the edible just going what an experience. Yeah, that's beautiful. I can't be zoobed in public anymore it just is like oh i was i was with some friends and i was like i'm so stoned right they're like really oh we can't tell i was like great anyway that's beautiful do you think it's because we just bring you up or it's bringing you down um it was settling me into the flight which i think like no one minds if you're like just minding your own business. No one cares. No one's clocking you on a plane. At least that's what I think.
Starting point is 00:30:07 But keep going about this childhood thing. Oh, I think that's all it is, is that she knows that I was really fucking scared to fly as a kid, and, like, she just checks in about the flight of it all, because when the words Matthew and airport are together, I think it triggers her.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Aww. Okay. I guess our moms, like, really it triggers her. Oh, okay. I guess our moms like really care about us. I guess we're mothers. After all, that didn't really work, but I'll work on it. I guess they were mothers after all.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I guess they were mothers after all. Yes. It's getting closer. That's it. That was it. I guess they were mothers after all. up think you've seen it all i don't think you've been a good friend to me lately we're friends like that who needs enemies you ain't seen nothing yet cheers to being dramatic with the real housewives of potomac oh my gosh can i take this in it's gonna be amazing new york city everyone is a gossip no one gets a happier life salt lake city we don't wear costumes we wear fashion and below
Starting point is 00:31:18 deck sailing you broken rules and now you're here getting upset watch all new seasons on bravo or Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional
Starting point is 00:31:55 dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I wrote an un-new song last night, actually, with my friend
Starting point is 00:33:35 Brendan Scannell. Do you want to hear it? Yes. When two men kiss, it is amazing. It is beautiful oh oh my god that was beautiful it's called when two men kiss in parentheses it is amazing that is so beautiful and you're just singing in the home all day yeah and you really you channel that way i sing from my spirit you both do i do you remember in pop roulette when matt would always give me the raps when matt was giving raps matt would always give me the raps i gave you the
Starting point is 00:34:20 material that was gonna highlight your strengths wow you are looking at me with so much fire in your eyes right now. Okay, I had your back all the time in casting. You're giving me the look. And also, I always told you that when you committed to singing, you were a fabulous singer. When I committed? Well, because when you get nervous, anyone when they're really nervous is going to be like tentative when they sing.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I can't sing and I kept That's not true, Sudi. No, but I think that I give off the vibe of someone who can't because I'm so charismatic you've written songs you've written songs and you've made other people sing the things you've written you know what is fun though about that
Starting point is 00:34:56 is that the fact that I can do that means that anybody can learn it and I really feel that way well that's not true that's not true and that is a real concrete talent and yeah but also though like i remember when i first started trying to write songs and i was like really bad at it and i really had to learn what that whole thing is and it's like also the fact that i have truly no musical talent and have written many songs we're saying we're saying that first part is not
Starting point is 00:35:25 true but keep going okay no but no like formal training i like don't know like right you know i took choir in high school and like it was to be with my friends and yeah you know what i mean the fact that i did that means that like do you ever just have that feeling where you can mark a point where you didn't know how to do something and then later you're like okay and you learned and you learned well literally i think that what's cool about songwriting and also comedy sketch writing is they're like sisters they're in the same family you still feel this way today absolutely after all these years of doing both yeah i actually think that that's for some reason it it's like a puzzle
Starting point is 00:36:05 what you didn't know at the beginning of how to write songs was you didn't understand necessarily like song structure like verse chorus stuff like that exactly like in terms of like exactly how it worked and so i remember you would cram a lot of comedy ideas into the song and like if ever there was something that needed to happen with your material that you were writing as songs it was just that like they had to be put into like a song structure. I didn't understand. But once you learned how to do that, like you were off to the races, mama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I didn't understand that. Well, if you're a musician, you would. Thanks. Unless you were a musician. Do you remember, speaking of comedy as rhythm, Bone and I wrote this sketch when we were at SNL for regina uh-huh the disco one yes i love that one okay so do you remember we had written it and we loved it and she loved it yeah and then we had what was it it was basically i was regina king regina king regina King was playing this like disco queen. The sketch took place in the 70s. And I was like the tour manager.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah. And she was going through her writer. Her writer. And then it was almost like a patter sketch, if that thing even exists. It was a list. It was like totally like a song. It was like,
Starting point is 00:37:18 do this, do this, do this. Do this, do this. It was like we had to like be in that rhythm. But yeah. So we loved it she loved it and then it kind of didn't do like well at the table for whatever reason which like can happen for a million reasons but then it got in and so we didn't really have like even though we believed in the sketch like we didn't really have like a good sense from the table of what worked and what
Starting point is 00:37:40 didn't yeah so i went to steve higgins's office who is a producer at snl and i like think that i was also sort of campaigning for the sketch by being like i just don't know i mean i'm just trying to get not that i was using that voice but just being like hey what do you think i could do to this sketch because we're coming off of this steve h Steve Higgins likes to help, likes to jump in and help. And this is what he said to me. He said, comedy is not hee-ha-ho-ha-ha. It's ha-ha-ho. Ha-ha-ha-ho. It's not hee-hee-hee-ho-ho.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Ha-ha. Hee. It's not that. It's ha-ha-ha. Hee-hee-ha-ho. And it made sense. And it made total sense to you it really did yeah but he also like that's like literally verbatim what he said no i know because you you came in because
Starting point is 00:38:32 then like then later that day studio comes into the office it was like higgins just said this and it was like what but it made sense but yeah and it was because the patterns were inconsistent with the rhythm of the sketch and so if you just got into the music of it and surprised the audience it's almost like it doesn't matter what you said, it was the rhythm of how you said it the audience would be like oh that's funny. So instead of saying it just feels like
Starting point is 00:38:56 the rhythm of the comedy is off, he said comedy isn't ha ha he ho ho, comedy is ha ha ho ho he he ha ha ha ha ha he exactly i can use that better than it's about the rhythm of the piece sure so is sex oh did i lie you know what i mean no absolutely i mean oh okay so i was watching watching the Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman doc. And Joanne Woodward has this quote where she's like,
Starting point is 00:39:32 acting is like fucking. Don't talk about it. Just do it. Don't talk about it. Don't think about it. Just do it. Very UCB. As I'm getting older, I'm talking less during it.
Starting point is 00:39:47 During sex? I used to think it was like so cool because like you see it in movies and like that's what they do in movies because you can't just show two people fucking wordlessly in a movie yeah then it's a porn they have to say we're having sex they have to say we're having sex i love this i'm having fun yeah and i i didn't not not that i did that in my day matt's pensively nodding but now the fewer words there can be i feel like usually it's it's better i just let my body do all of course you know i just let my body speak because i find that when i'm having sex it's really because my body has been wanting to say something you know Like I feel like sex is such an amazing excuse to just communicate feelings and express your power.
Starting point is 00:40:33 You know what I mean? Like sex to me is not just about mutual gratification. No, no. Sex is about expression. Sex is about showing just how powerful you can truly be oh my god wow look at that pillow in his lap oh no it's covered in my
Starting point is 00:40:52 what word am I gonna pick semen oh semen and penis are so disgusting I don't like it ee ee the vowels are bad. It's a penis.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Penis. E-I. Yeah. Penis. Ointment. Ointment. Ointment. Ointment.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does a guy you're ever hooking up with ever say, yeah, my penis. Penis. No. Penis. Has anyone ever called it their penis
Starting point is 00:41:18 when you're hooking up with them? Never for me. Not that I can recall. Never for me. Never for me. Someone posted on Instagram an old HR video from the 80s where it shows
Starting point is 00:41:31 some things aren't work appropriate. It's a woman in the copy room and then another woman steps in and goes, ooh, it smells like vagina in here. What did you say? Yup. Pure vagina.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I don't know. Like, this is amazing. It's incredible. Vagina is a more fun word to say than penis, though. Vagina is so much fun. Because you can say, like, vagina with, like, some aggression. You know what I mean? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Like, you can be like, vagina. Right. But, like, penis. It's the I. Yeah. Yeah. Penis is terrible it doesn't sound like that's what it should be called you know what i mean it feels like it should be called like a cock or a dick well not for everyone some people have a penis and that's okay that's fine i think
Starting point is 00:42:21 i think but we're just saying language has failed us in this way. Where the actual, where the term for it doesn't sound beautiful. I think you should call it your shusha. Pecker. Shusha? I like shusha. Your shusha. Shusha? Shusha feels feminine. I think shusha is for everyone.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Shusha is for everyone. I shouldn't say masculine and feminine. Come come on what year is it what year is 1994 no it's 2023 um remember the era of when little boys would call it a vashina no what is that a lot of my little, these rascals that I remember, I'm wondering where you guys are right now. I'm thinking about all of you very fondly and thinking about what wonderful men you've all probably grown up to be.
Starting point is 00:43:13 But I remember that when I had a lot of boyfriends when I was younger, they'd be like, yeah, I actually saw my mom's vagina. That's just you. That's to you, Error. Like, oh,
Starting point is 00:43:26 my sister's vashina. No, don't talk about your sister. I never had that. I'm not. I'm saying I remember, like, little boys would say vashina.
Starting point is 00:43:35 No. And I remember one time this kid, John, in school said vashina and my art teacher turned around to him and she goes,
Starting point is 00:43:43 she was like, first of all, that's not even how you say it. So you sound stupid. Do you think that they knew? It's a vagina, not a vashina. Second of all, don't say that. There were like girls that I was friends with that like called it a taco. No, that's so bad.
Starting point is 00:44:05 What's the age where you can start calling it that? That was like seven or eight. We were calling it a taco. No, stupid girls. You have to be at least 27 years old to call it that. We were definitely calling it a taco. And one time I remember a girl... That means there's meat in it.
Starting point is 00:44:21 That's weird. That's not good. No, like taco burrito. And there's folds. It kind of looks like a taco anyway um i remember one time i was on the playground and i heard a girl call it her pocketbook i didn't know i didn't know kids were being this creative i've like family has like a word for it i feel like i feel like also like you just sort of naturally that was one language yeah i think my mom called my sisters a chooch chooch these words are uncomfortable and they also like
Starting point is 00:44:50 hold a lot of like meaning for kids because kids don't understand it but they're well maybe they do but like it's something that is exciting to them yeah it's their name for their area yeah it's their name for their mysterious area well you know what know what's so funny is that what we called my penis or anyone's penis when I was growing up in Mandarin was deer. And that is J-I-E-R, basically. Deer. Deer. And that literally translates to like your little chicken which is like a cock which cock is like male big chicken your little chicken but it's like what i just don't i don't know i
Starting point is 00:45:33 know penis being the little chicken but that's what a cock is cheer yeah you got it wow that's incredible how quickly do you think i could pick up Mandarin? Pretty quickly. It's very musical language. You would love it. It's Mandarin. You were getting the tone. I know tone. Honey, I know tone. I pick it up from both of you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Well, listen, another thing I wanted to talk about on my list. So that all was the conversation about Lauren Boebert's getting felt up. And we did end up on Vashina. On Dürer and Vashina. On Dürer on vashina on your innovation on cheer and vashina so drew came back to work huh yeah drew and then she came back to work and then she paused so that's good what were your i know that you had a lot of thoughts do you want to tell anything to drew very more right now you want to say something girl, what's going on there?
Starting point is 00:46:28 Well, now she's done the right thing, right? What is going, okay, what is going on there, though? Like, why do we think? She literally was like, I'm not talking to my publicist for some reason. So that was her first mistake. She was doing all this sort of off of her own instincts which cannot be totally i just can't understand it i can't
Starting point is 00:46:49 understand how anybody thought it would be a good idea in the first place and that they would get away with it there's only one explanation and that's that they were probably threatening her with cancellation if she didn't well that sucks and that's awful and that's not on her. Yeah. If that is the case. But also, it just is, I wonder what happens in these rooms when they're like, I feel like they must like get themselves into a little tizzy and be like, that's a fly. Or they're just not thinking about it at all. Yeah. about it at all yeah i think that she probably is like we said this last week she's like a bleeding heart person who is thinking about like the positive shit that comes about with her show how she feels doing the show and you know what i mean and like she probably feels responsible for
Starting point is 00:47:37 her crew and then like to me what was crazy was the video being like i own this and then that coming down and her saying, never mind. Because like, and her saying in that video, like, I didn't want you guys to think this was a PR thing. It's like, mama, this is the, your video right now is the reason why we need PR. Right. PR could have gotten you out of this. This thing of like, and I'm not actually not using my PR.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Isn't the flex I think people think it is. I never think it's smart for people to not consult with people. It immediately exposes you to people being like, well, you need it. No matter how airtight your thing is, everyone's going to try to poke a hole in it. Yeah, 100. You know, 100.
Starting point is 00:48:24 100. But now that she's a hero again, I think that we can all say that, Drew... We love you. We love you. And the open invitation stands. Give it up for Rosie O'Donnell. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Rosie was really coming for her. What do you think that's about? I think it's Rosie being right yet again. Rosie's always right. I was so obsessed with Rosie O'Donnell as a kid. Oh. So obsessed. Did you ever get your hands on a koosh?
Starting point is 00:48:53 But I don't mean a kooch. A koosh ball. Vashina. Yeah, they were around. Yeah. They were for sure around. Yeah. I remember also when I was young, one time i said to somebody that my idol
Starting point is 00:49:08 was rosie o'donnell it was my swim coach it's a great name was your swim coach weird about it my swim coach made a face and made like a joke the face now like like it's a homophobic face yeah honestly i was like could not fathom why I would look up to her or find her likable in any way. Oh, was it a woman? No,
Starting point is 00:49:30 it was a man. It was Donald Trump. Of course it was. It was Trump. And I remember I told you I would swim. It was him. It was Trump.
Starting point is 00:49:40 It was Trump. That's so cool. Like you putting out a tell all book, my swimming coach was Trump. That would be cool. Like you putting out a tell-all book, my swimming coach was Trump. That would be real interesting. My swimming coach was Trump. I can't swim.
Starting point is 00:49:53 We were talking about this. Sudi, both of you lifeguards? No. There was Sudi. Oh, it was someone else. I was like almost at the point where I could have been certified. But you were a swimmer.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I was a swimmer. I did like heavy at the point where I could have been certified. But you were a swimmer. I was a swimmer. I did like heavy swimming. Not like the greenery over here. I had a moment where I could have really, my life would have taken a different trajectory. But you talk about, I think you being a swimmer is this identity, is this part of you that like.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm a water girl. We're all water girls. Well, Sammy and your sister was a champion swimmer my sister is a really good swimmer she okay so this is the story which is that she was like just swimming in the pool one time we used to live in africa and we were in i think they were in ghana or cameroon i don't remember maybe i wasn't born and uh but you remember it but i remember the story the legend of the family which it might mean you were there I was there my sister was just like swimming in this pool
Starting point is 00:50:54 and this woman came up to my mom and was like she's gonna go on the swim team she's a good swimmer and then my sister was all of a sudden like on the swim team she was lessons she was thrust and then my parents were like, if she does an activity, you're going to do the activity. We're not figuring out two activities. So then I just followed her on her way. And I do think that my whole family is just kind of like, we love to be in the water.
Starting point is 00:51:18 My mom grew up going to the Caspian. It's like, we like to post up on the beach. That's a nice day for the family. Lizarding, sitting on the beach, having watermelon, going for a quick dip. That's our little pattern. My Scorpio child. My Scorpio child. I love to be in the water and I love to swim. And if I'm at a pool or if I'm at the beach, there is never a day that I don't go in the water if there's water.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. This woman who came up to your mom, this is such an 80s, 90s thing of woman goes up to a parent with their child at the grocery store, at the pool, wherever going, your child has something. Wow. That doesn't happen anymore. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You'd be too shy. If I was ever going to go up to someone and they're a kid, they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:52:12 Groomer. Yeah, yeah. They'd say groomer. They'd say groomer. They'd say groomer. I say yes. They'd take their kids right away. Love.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Well, what about, like, you remember when you were a kid and like your mom would meet somebody and all of a sudden you'd be like on a play date with a stranger that was so frightening you know who I used to play with it was the kids sometimes the kids of the women that my mom would do their hair
Starting point is 00:52:38 like they would bring their kid over and I'd be like well I guess I'm hanging out with Flop Magoose what? sharing my toys playing my games literally would bring their kid over and I'd be like, well, I guess I'm hanging out with Flop and Magoose. What? Sharing my toys, playing my games. Literally? Trying to beat me at the cart.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It makes you more selfish. Absolutely. It made me much worse as a person. I was like protective of my things. I was like, I didn't know you existed until five minutes ago. And now you're in my home? Now you're in my home touching my thing? And just because we're both kids, we're supposed to hang out. Disgusting.
Starting point is 00:53:10 The implication of like the kids will just hang out, the kids will just... That might not be my type of kid. I'm just as complex as you are. Yeah, imagine being put on a random play date with an adult now. Just like you're going to be with this person for the next two hours. We might have nothing in common. But it wouldn't matter because it would be what you had to do. Well, my mom very sweetly, I feel like, was always meeting.
Starting point is 00:53:33 You know, we grew up in Delaware. There are not that many Iranians around. My mom is Iranian. And anybody Iranian in a 40-mile radius was like invited to our house. Or we're going over there and so which was wonderful and how you build community but also that meant that like there was always a stranger at halloween yeah because my mom also like i feel like always had this role of like you know she was married to an american like she'd been there for a while you know what i mean and i remember one halloween just a random iranian girl showed up and had never
Starting point is 00:54:07 done halloween before and halloween blew her mind and she was having the time of her life she must have been like seven that's beautiful and i wish i remembered her name but i don't but it was like halloween this is what this holiday is i'm all in obviously what do you think was so exciting to her the costumes free candy it was the candy it wasn't the costume house after house after house getting free candy and getting to wear a princess dress and you said to her diva and you showed all your starbursts and you said
Starting point is 00:54:36 welcome to America honey literally and you kissed her on the cheek you said welcome to America baby literally and you said guess what it's just more of this well here's the thing is that then this same family who i'm sorry i don't remember their name but i was very little and this was happening it was a long time ago please cut yourself some slack the same family my friends the same family came to thanksgiving and the little girl showed up in her Halloween costume with a basket thinking that it was going to be like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I am going to cry. And their parents said to you, did you tell her that America was like just more of this? It was another American holiday. And did you kiss her on the cheek? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you kiss my daughter on her cheek? You fucking little girl.
Starting point is 00:55:28 You little pervert. I wanted to show her. Little girl pervert. I wanted to show her the ways. What if we found out about you, Sudi, that you were a little girl pervert? Yeah. What if? What if?
Starting point is 00:55:44 What if you killed a guy silence if you killed someone i'm gonna be a rap honey no i'm gonna go on the record and say i would betray me right now i would never betray you if you killed someone i would support you 100 we would support you 100%. We would support you 100%. My girl. This is goodbye Earl vibes, the three of us. You would only kill someone
Starting point is 00:56:11 under very bad circumstances. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.
Starting point is 00:56:30 You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at nine on Bravo or stream it on City TV Plus. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of
Starting point is 00:56:51 On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in
Starting point is 00:58:20 Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when we were in Charleston, South Carolina, when we were in a sketch group together?
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yes. And there was this insane... I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What's your mother's story? It's a different story. Sorry, I sorry different story sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry sooty was really drunk no but that was one of the drunkest times i've ever had i will always remember that night but keep going i'm so sorry i didn't mean to take us on this path but let's correct okay well matt there was like this crazy big highway that we were crossing to get to our hotel and matt runs across this highway that was like full of big highway that we were crossing to get to our hotel.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And Matt runs across this highway that was like full of cars. And we were all just kind of like booking it because we couldn't figure out like how to cross this highway. We had to get to our hotel. And Matt crosses it and he screams, live. Yeah, live. Live. Thrill seeker. There is a large portion of my life where i live for the thrill so true i'll never forget matt looking at my face and screaming live i don't remember this maybe i wasn't there
Starting point is 00:59:54 i live for the thrill you were drunk i was drunk you're so wasted i used to get drunk and make you take care of me and i'm sorry for that i i haven't had to do it i definitely like would eat your grilled cheese and throw it up two minutes later and we know it was that night yeah it was that it was that night and there's a picture from there's a picture i can count on one hand which is to say obviously that i have not had to do that very much to like nurse you at all you're very responsible i just think you and i are people yes you and i are people who would get fucked up but it would not be like bad that's true you know what i mean but there was that's true i feel like now also because i'm a lightweight so like no same i can't go really
Starting point is 01:00:37 to the point of really bad because i get drunk before that happens and fall asleep yes but um there was a period of time where like every time we would go out of town like with pop roulette that i would get so blackout and puke somewhere i shouldn't like i puked in our friend's parents pull out couch yes you did yes and had to like baking soda that shit for like two days you You've always been a puker though. I puked outside of that cab in South Carolina and we got kicked out of the cab and had to get like an Uber.
Starting point is 01:01:10 That was my time of supporting you. I've thrown up in Greyhounds. I've thrown up in Citibanks. You know. I don't really throw up. Sorry. What? Sorry. I just caught Citibanks. Sorry. What? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I just caught Citibanks. Two Citibanks. That's a lot. That's how many Citibanks are in New York City. That's not really so much about me. You're talking 2015? Uh-huh. New York is covered in Citibanks.
Starting point is 01:01:37 You're bound to throw up in one. Oh, yeah. And therefore, you're a puke. Because you go where you're comfortable in the city's Citibanks. Yes, yes. I have to say, yeah, I wouldn't describe you in that time as a low maintenance drunk person.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah, no, I think I was a nightmare who couldn't handle her shit. But now I think you're right. The way you've grown, and this is quantum, is you will just take yourself home. Oh, big. You will just take yourself home.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Big. And honestly, same same there's actually nothing more i love than getting home like before 12 putting on my endle ah yes i wanted to look you in the eyes when you realize i'm gasping you influenced me to download the app endle because bone and i had such an amazing time sharing a space in fire island playing soothing music that would lull us to sleep and now i use this app endel i love it and it does the job so well i use it every night and there's nothing more i love than coming home early like on a weekend like a little before 12, putting my AC to a comfortable 68 degrees.
Starting point is 01:02:46 That's low. And then getting in the bed, putting on my- Potions. My eye mask. Okay. And white noise sound machine. Baby girl. You gotta put your potion.
Starting point is 01:03:01 That's how I sleep. Every night on Fire Island, Matt would go, now put on the beautiful music. He called it the beautiful music. How did you find out about? Beautiful Instagram targeted ads. Wow. Come on, cookies.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. Thank you, cookies. You absolutely have to. You have to. I'm getting a lot of Instagram ads that are weird. I'm getting a lot of Instagram ads that are weird. I'm getting really like in-cell-y AirPod alternatives. No.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Like AirPods suck. Real men use this. Oh, no. And I'm like, that's interesting. Ozempic. A lot of Ozempic stuff. I'm like, interesting. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:42 How do you know that I'm a little paunchy? You're not paunchy. Look at this. You're looking gorgeous. Look at that. It's fine. We both said when you walked in. I just said when you walked in, you looked...
Starting point is 01:03:53 Stop. Also, you can be gorgeous too. Newsflash. No, I'm sorry. I'm just saying it's such a mindfuck to be like, wait a minute. What makes you think? And then I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I get a lot for the hydration and IV services. Oh, I wish. That's a nice one to have. I don't get that. Your house was absolutely, well, thank you for letting me stay in your New York place, by the way. And your place was absolutely covered in liquid IV.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Yeah, liquid IV. Oh, so good. That stuff is really good too. But I'm talking about like, it's the service where they actually come to you and give you an IV in your arm. Oh, like a concierge. Yeah, like it's like one of those things.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And do you really, really feel better after? I've done it a couple of times and I have to say it really works. Does it get rid of your hangovers just like straight up? It definitely does. And also like there's one I did once and it is a little bit on the pricey side but when i'm really feeling like i really need like it to be like a rejuvenated
Starting point is 01:04:50 full restore moment i get nad plus which is like this it's pretty wild like as an iv like it's and as a vitamin it's it's pretty insane i don't know what it what's in it and we never will and there's no way to know but's in it. And we never will. And there's no way to know. But I get it. NAD plus. And while you're getting it, you feel very heavy and a little bit nauseous. But afterwards, you feel like you could lift a car.
Starting point is 01:05:14 What's the plus? Bull semen? I don't know. Bull semen. I guess I do have to say that concierge medical service has saved my life in the past. Absolutely. Like they just are like, here, this is the craziest antibiotic that we can mainline into you. And it did turn my sickness around. So you're kind of getting like, you know, in a true Hollywood story where there's a singer who like loses their voice and then they're like interviewing the doctor who gave
Starting point is 01:05:45 them the shot in their throat so that they could sing at Live Aid. Oh my god. I pray that I never have to have a Katy Perry teenage dream movie moment where she's like they're dragging her onto the
Starting point is 01:06:01 platform before she has to perform. She's an icon I want to have it and I want the cameras to be following me I want before I go on shows like I want a camera following me and I'm having to drag myself to the stage to perform my pop music
Starting point is 01:06:18 have you had a moment like that pre-performance breaking down? wait a minute something happened this year at Culture Awards like right before we went on stage that i was like fuck what to you something happened to me oh yeah you got a text and i was like what the hell i did i got a i got an i got a text i got a text that was suspiciously timed right but i stayed very strong you did i said my girl's gonna pull through. No, I feel like I'm not the kind of person that gets like
Starting point is 01:06:47 shaken before things happen only because I'm so occupied with like nervous anxious energy. Yes. That like there's no space for anything else. It's just like okay. Floating above. We're all anxious. The three of us. No? Yeah. I would say I'm more anxious than depressive. floating above we're all anxious the three of us no yeah
Starting point is 01:07:07 I would say I'm more anxious than depressive and I might be more depressive maybe that's maybe I'm like the little different but you can be both and you can do really good at both
Starting point is 01:07:20 I might be more English social studies like that's more what I am I'm gonna do shop I'm taking shop and I'm taking shop English social studies. Like that's more what I am. I'm going to do shop. I'm taking shop. And I'm taking shop. What were your electives?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh, this is a good one. Always art, baby. Baby. And then, you know, I was that girl who was like all about gym, PE,
Starting point is 01:07:44 health. Was your dad a teacher at your school? No. He was a teacher at another school, which I think was probably for the best. That is really nice. But was he at all your games? He was at everything he could be at, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Wow. And did he give you a lot of pressure? Was it like varsity blues? He was often my coach for things. Because you were quite the athlete. Yeah, so I was, and he was often my coach for the athlete yeah so i i was and he was often my coach for things so i guess that was like it was never like oh daddy's watching because he was always the coach so it was like i just accepted the fact that my father was the coach what were your
Starting point is 01:08:16 elective city i guess i did art and my school didn't really have a theater program but then they always kind of like tried a little bit so i remember like a group of us kind of being in an english class and i think like each having to read a play it didn't matter what play it was and then like write a report on it yeah that was our theater class they were like instead of english you'll just theater read a play but of course i wasn't gonna like do anything like physically active so but you had to this one question for for this question question for this question didn't you have to take all the electives no like you could not do gym yeah you had to do gym you had not do gym. Yeah, you had to do gym. You had to do gym. But then your electives were like, am I going to do shop?
Starting point is 01:09:08 Am I going to do? Oh. Am I going to do yearbook? Home ec. Home ec. That kind of thing. What did you do? So I, so my sister set a precedent.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Oh. Within the family, I will say. And some kids did this, but not a lot. But some kids would take two foreign languages instead of just one. Oh. So we did Spanish. So I did Spanish and some kids did this but not a lot but some kids would take two foreign languages instead of just So so we did Spanish and so I did Spanish and French Genius boy. No, but the French was such a was such like a lol because I was like I already know it contraire It's very beautiful and then that choir big big choir boy choir well because you're a singer no he farted oh
Starting point is 01:09:45 something happens my body knows to fart when I'm around you guys no you're feeling relaxed and welcome and warm I just landed
Starting point is 01:09:54 I literally readers Katie's Pebbles is the finalist oh I landed and I dropped my things off at the airport ran off to see my friends
Starting point is 01:10:01 fresh off a plane fresh off the plane and also having like the labor of having to give like constant updates when you're having like a travel thing. I know. It's just like Sorry guys. Sorry guys. Babe, you're not in control. I know.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Nothing you could have done in that situation. I just want you to know that I have my list of topics that I wrote down for today because sometimes I do do that. Let's go. And one of them is Reba has no top lip. Did you guys them is Reba has no top lip. Did you guys know that Reba has no top lip? What do you mean by
Starting point is 01:10:30 no? Apparently Reba McIntyre has no top lip. And she's talked about this recently. Reba no top lip. Yeah. She has almost no top lip. Look. Is this just like her top lip is really small or does she
Starting point is 01:10:45 medically in the culture someone just said this to me and i wrote it down because i said it's really true she has no top lip and it is part of when you actually think about it it is part of what makes reba look like reba and she i would not change a thing no i i let the record i really hope you're not suggesting that i'm not saying reba get lip i'm just saying my icon she does not have a lot of top lip and she's so gorgeous she's so iconic she's so amazing she was the queen of that short kind of early aughts mom haircut that spiky little shaggy bob yes she rocked that she invented it she might have she definitely was a pioneer woman you know when i feel this way with my bangs that i feel like a haircut came into fashion that ended up being my haircut
Starting point is 01:11:38 yeah you know like i worry that my shag will be like the swoopy bangs of like the future no no no no this is a timeless haircut you know who has this haircut Carrie's downstairs neighbor yeah I'm absolutely Carrie's downstairs neighbor yeah this hair because now you really know it's a haircut because you're seeing like one of the girls in the Verizon commercial have it because they're like modern cool, curly hair. What is she? We don't know. It's very ambiguous.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Very, very that. But we're excited. Yeah. No, it's very, what is she? We don't know, but we're excited. That's real culture number 38. What is she? We don't know, but we're excited.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Wow. Reba, no top lip. I don't think it's held her back one bit. No, I think that she has gone on to do amazing things despite what her lip has placed on her, limitations-wise. Right. Whatever you personally think your own flaw is, it's not relevant. They told Cindy Crawford to get the mole removed.
Starting point is 01:12:44 No. And where would we be no if she had done it okay no Kaya Gerber no Kaya you don't get that anymore no bottoms bottoms would have been very different if Cindy had removed her mole Cindy would have been destitute out on the street
Starting point is 01:13:00 oh yeah yeah yeah go go go bottoms would have been very different if Cindy had removed her mole Cindy would have been out on the street in no position to have a child she would have been destitute as you said destitution destitution whore no casamigos no i said it wait why no casamigos because randy Gerber is Casamigos with George Clooney. I didn't know he was the guy. Yeah, they love to ride motorcycles together. And then they were like, let's start a tequila company.
Starting point is 01:13:31 And even though that's Gerber, I think his name is Randy. Maybe it's Dean. Who knows? Gerber. Yes. Kaia's daddy. I feel like even though Casamigos is his without like Cindy, it just like wouldn't have all come together. Because.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It's probably her money, right? No, it's definitely like he's not. Well, we don't know. He's like a thing. Okay, let's Google. Yeah. Rand Berger. Rand Berger.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Money. How? He's an American businessman and former model. Okay. Model husband? All right. Oh, my God. He's from Hewlett.
Starting point is 01:14:09 He's from Long Island. Oh, that's nice. Well, I think it's mostly her money. I think it's mostly hers. What else is on the list? The other black girl on Hulu. I watched all of it. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Garcelle gets to do it all. I love that. I love Eric McCormick in it. I loved it. Garcelle gets to do it all. I love that. I love Eric McCormick in it. Oh, Eric McCormick. I actually think he has the look that I love. I think he has the look I love. Bellamy Young. Oh, Bellamy is
Starting point is 01:14:38 wild in it. Bellamy is doing great work. Bellamy's choices in some of it, I'm like, Bellamy, we forgot about her. She is the one and only Mellie Grant on Scandal. Did you watch Scandal? Who knows? Who can never be sure? Who can say?
Starting point is 01:14:53 I feel that you might be super thrilled by like a season one, two, three Scandal watch. I think I did watch the first two to three seasons, because I watched the first four to five of Grey's. Right. First three seasons of Scandal were fun.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Oh, the second season especially was Kuntum. Yeah. Kuntum. Kuntum. Kuntum. But that was all I had on the list. And then the last thing I had on my list was actually to remind myself of my I Don't Think So Honey because I've actually been meaning to do this. I Don't Think So Honey.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I said this to Sudi for about a month and I keep forgetting because there's something in the culture that's been popping up for the last month literally popping up and I have to expel my anger oh my god okay so it's time the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.
Starting point is 01:15:54 You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo. Or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the
Starting point is 01:16:37 desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Starting point is 01:17:14 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is I Don't Think So Honey, where we take one minute to rail against something in culture. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. Matt, your time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey, the trailer for Exorcist Believer. It is on every single YouTube video I watch.
Starting point is 01:18:34 It's almost like the algorithm has found out not what I like, but what I hate and wants to demonize and terrorize me like a devil. Like a devil that's featured in exorcist believer, by the way, the little girls are getting absolutely inhabited by demons. And the way that horror mover trailers are all just this, like, it's just absolutely insane that they're going to put 30 seconds. Sometimes the content that I'm watching has nothing to do with horror.
Starting point is 01:19:01 It's like a clip from the view. And all of a sudden it's just believer. I'm just like, I'm watching has nothing to do with horror. It's like a clip from The View. And all of a sudden it's, come down, exorcist believer. I'm just like, I'm trying. It's like 11 in the morning. I'm trying to watch Sonny Hostin say some words. Why am I getting screamed at by the devil? This trailer is the loudest, scariest, most evil trailer. Congrats to Ellen Burstyn on booking the gig
Starting point is 01:19:23 and closing the loop. But I don't think so. Any extras believer. You are scary. Even in the day. That's one minute. I'm so sorry. I hope.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Is there a little thing you can click to say? I have to run either to my computer to put the volume off. Right. Or I have to run like away and hide from my computer. Oh, man. For the 15 seconds until the trailer it's traumatic i can't believe you're that sensitive that's so sweet it's so sweet i i can't watch horror movie trailers you should see me in the movie theater horror movie trailers we've never seen like wow
Starting point is 01:19:56 you always add a 12 yeah you just feel everything so intense i cannot relax and when i'm when a horror movie trailer comes on i'm actually like in the worst place i've ever been in you feel so much oh but and then you can't help as his friend but to sort of absorb some of that because i we went to go see thoroughbreds and matt turned to me and i've never been more scared or anxious in my life he goes is this a horror movie i said no no no no no it's not it's not it's not a horror goes, is this a horror movie? I said, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not a horror movie. It's not a horror movie. I was so scared that Matt was going to be scared. Isn't that so funny? But you like roller coasters.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I like roller coasters and I like haunted houses. It makes no sense. Because you want to know what it is? It's the static nature of sitting and watching a movie and the enveloping nature of cinema. It's because you love cinema so much. it's because cinema is something that i experience and i commit and i am there and so for it to be scary is so painful for me emotionally and physically because of the
Starting point is 01:21:00 tension that i hold in my body like i literally I can't watch these things because it harms me physically. Like, I'll need to go, like, to physical therapy. Yeah, you would need to be in a rollercoaster seat. Maybe I need, like, a horse tranquilizer or something. No, no, no. I don't like that. I don't like that either, bro. And forget I said it. Okay. Bowen, do you have an
Starting point is 01:21:19 I Don't Think So Honey topic? I do. I do. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, the way the texting is depicted in TV shows. Oh. People are always responding immediately. The platform doesn't look quite right.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Everyone's spelling with perfect punctuation. I don't like it. And the emojis look like they were drawn by a child. It takes me out of it this is how it has to be a character text someone cut to seconds cut to an implied time jump let's say this person's at the desk text their friend a character cut to five minutes later it doesn't need the kind of five minutes later yeah Yeah. But then buzz the person's text back.
Starting point is 01:22:07 That is realism. That's text realism. We need it in movies and TV shows. Otherwise, I'm out. Otherwise, I go. I'm watching a movie or TV show.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I can't. Five seconds. My disbelief has been not suspended, has been pinned to the damn ground. And that's one minute. Should we do a film?
Starting point is 01:22:22 Should the three of us do a film called The Exchange, which is just like it's a half an hour show about a text conversation that takes place over a half hour like in real time
Starting point is 01:22:31 I love it and it's literally just like it shows what it's really like to have a true text exchange I love it and then this is what happens in the trailer
Starting point is 01:22:39 it goes The Exchange ding that's the ding in the text yep and then this is sort of the sounds ding of the text. Yep. And then, you know, this is sort of the soundscape of the movie, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Ding! Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. Vroom! Ding! Click, click, click, That's it. Oh my God. That was amazing. Wait. That was really good ASMR. You're not allowed to do that during the strike though. Fuck. You just made a movie. Fuck. Right before I fell in the eyes.
Starting point is 01:23:10 It was Matt's idea. Oh my God. I also just got a text that Hulu bought it. Damn it, Matt. You scab. You scab. You scab. And I just got a text that I'm Hulu.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Oh. You're amputee bitch. I know. You're Disney. You fucking bitch. I just want to say that if the writers would just be more reasonable. Just kidding. Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Was that a fart? No, it was the ice machine. Quickly, I want to... No, don't fart right now. No, I'm not farting. Quickly, I want to mention something funny I saw on the internet as it relates to Lauren Bober. Say it. Someone tweeted, like, a joke in the Frasier reboot.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Like, hypothetical joke pitch. This is not scathing. This is the person just tweeting a hypothetical joke in the Frasier reboot. Frasier says, Lauren Boebert was caught vaping and groping someone at Beetlejuice. It was in the front of the Sanctity of Theater. Niall says, yes, but it's no reason to start vaping and groping.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Referring to Beetlejuice. Isn't that so funny? That was really good. I know. It's that multicam humor. We miss it. Bring it back. That's why we're bringing it back. Yep. And that's what we wanted to say. The strike is over. Bring back multicam. We're bringing back multicams.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Well. Now, Sud sudi did you come to quintum with some topics at hand i didn't actually we perfectly segued into what i'm we perfectly segued we love synergy i love that and this is quintum this is sudi greens i don't think so honey her time starts now i don't think so honey Her time starts now I don't think so honey being bored during the strike I mean the strike sucks We all know it sucks We wish it would end I've organized my closets
Starting point is 01:24:56 I grew tomatoes Say it I have time Hey guess what I didn't finish a couple of screenplays But they're there. Yeah. The docks are open. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:08 You tell me that all I have is time. Well, I'm going to use that time. And if you're bored, you're boring. 30 seconds. And I just feel like if people looked at their shoes and they said, do I need these shoes? Really? You would pick some out and you would take them to out of the closet. And that would be a day. Yeah, it know you're so right like there are constant things to explore
Starting point is 01:25:31 knowledge is infinite the silver lining is time to be with all the things read the books you wanted to read read the books five seconds pottery, okay? Buy a new couch. And that's one minute. I'm sorry I interrupted you. I spoke during your episode. No, you were feeling the spirit. I want to say you know what? This is a major moment because we have to say get up.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Get up. Do something. Not since Kim Kardashian has it been so clear. People don't want to read these days. People don't want to read these days. People don't want to read these days. They don't want to do pottery. They don't want to get up. I have a running list of like things that I'm going to start getting really into.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Like what? What's the number one thing? Crochet. Are you actually though going to get into crochet? No, that's the thing. But like I've spent so much of the strike talking about it and thinking about it, you know? And that kind of is a cure for boredom is even just it and thinking about it you know and that kind of is a cure for boredom is even just talking and thinking about it out of the top like three things that you say
Starting point is 01:26:31 you want to get into which one do you think you could actually do and actually want to do you could crochet i could crochet because i could do it while i watch tv and it would replace me looking at my phone. See, I've thought about this. I want to buy one of those little crochet packs where you make those little animals. They were on Shark Tank. Yes. Or cross stitch I also hear is really easy.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Anyway, this is why I really need to get back to work. But you're saying you're not bored until then. No, I'm saying that like, basically, I understand that the strike is super hard and it's been really, really fucking hard and it's terrible. But I also feel like there's infinite time a little bit and it's kind of a fun opportunity. And I feel like instead of talking about how bored you are maybe like we aren't meant to like work all day and like it's a fun I don't know I just feel like aren't there things
Starting point is 01:27:31 that you would do if you had a lot of time and you are also like childless and like relatively like okay I think that post pandemic is a whole different thing honestly because I think that like things really sort of got back to normal there and then now
Starting point is 01:27:49 again and it's just triggering so I have I'm going to use this word I have compassion for the restless but I will say it's shocking to me like how you can really be
Starting point is 01:28:06 given all the time and still not do those things like you know how easy it would be for me to read and I still don't do it I also like didn't say like you know like I don't think so honey like depressed people in this strike bored people bored people like obviously you're allowed to
Starting point is 01:28:22 be like too depressed to do anything of course of course boredom throw the frisbee throw the frisbee you know what Patrick said to me the other day he goes I've been throwing the frisbee I said what Patrick House
Starting point is 01:28:38 he said he's been throwing the frisbee I was like I would never even think to go out and be throwing the frisbee we are all entering I think summer of cunt fall fall cunt, cuntum. Cuntum. That there is kind of a sea change happening. Return to self.
Starting point is 01:28:53 And I think that... I'm sorry, is that what you mean? No. No, I absolutely agree. This is what I'm talking about. Which is like, everywhere you're hearing your friend kind of be like, my tomatoes, you know? Or like, all of a sudden your friend is like everywhere you're hearing your friend kind of be like my tomatoes you know or like all of a sudden your friend is like the other day at acupuncture and you're like when did
Starting point is 01:29:11 you start doing acupuncture and they're like because of my back and then they're like what's wrong with your back and they're like oh it's been messed up for a really long time and then you're like wow it's happening yeah in a way. New threads are entering your friends' lives that they will never tell you about. Season 33 is about to get way more interesting. Because it's like season 33 of our lives. Yes. Oh, that's what it is. I was basically trying to be like an ABC promo.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I see. But for our own lives. Like, and when the drama heats up. Right. Oh my god. Whoever cut together those promos each week for Desperate House, for the ABC line. Yeah, they were amazing. Those were amazing.
Starting point is 01:29:55 They were amazing artists. I'm not kidding. I would never joke about this. I didn't watch Lost, but I even the Lost ones would come on and be like, that looks good. There was one extended commercial for Lost, which was a David LaChapelle ad. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Fabulous. You're talking about the season sort of promos. Like the mid-season promos for those ABC scripted dramas. Remember those? They were like a music video. Yeah, they were like a music video. Desperate Housewives. They were like visualizers.
Starting point is 01:30:23 But Desperate Housewives had cunty ones. Oh yeah oh yeah absolutely it was always them like catching an apple on the street and biting an apple and being like vanessa williams there's a new housewife in town so incredible imagine like we need your day is that you got into hair and makeup and got in front of a screen with a fan and kind of stepped side to side. Yeah. And just like gave it. I mean, I'm sure that they were also very busy, but. No, no.
Starting point is 01:30:52 That was part of their day. And I bet they fucking nailed. They nailed. And it's impossible for them to not have enjoyed that day. I know for a fact, Terry, Felicity, Marsha, Eva were all so excited for promo shoot day. And you left out Nicolette. Was that on purpose? Well, Nicolette wouldn't be in all of them.
Starting point is 01:31:08 I'm saying the ones that were in all seven seasons. Oh, my goodness. And they stood in front of the fan. They stood in front of the fan. And they looked at the camera. They had to catch the apples. Yeah, they really did. Because people needed to watch.
Starting point is 01:31:22 They had to watch. Yeah. I mean, my mom probably should have known that I was gay when I started referring to Desperate Housewives when I was in like freshman year of high school as quote unquote, my show. Oh, my show's on and it's Desperate Housewives. I'm a 14 year old boy. Listen, you're right. Soap needs to come back and it is back. Morning show.
Starting point is 01:31:48 We have it. Sudi, all I want is for you to understand the joy. It's really, you have to bathe in these waters. I have to go. Everyone is committing. I really want to. I don't know why I haven't. I think that there's so much
Starting point is 01:32:03 for you to enjoy. Don't you think Sudi's so much for you to enjoy I think I just have to take that first step don't you think Sudi would be like screaming every episode I would say the only person that I'm curious that I think I want Sudi's opinion on and I want your opinion on too I feel like they're all committing
Starting point is 01:32:17 to the same idea except for she's not doing it in the wrong way I think Greta Lee is kind of like, I'm going to approach this as if this is like Dadaism. She plays a weird character. Yes. And she's also got, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:32:33 but the weirdest haircut in the world in the show, Greta Lee. And some weird-ass dialogue. And then in this second episode of the third season, they throw this kind of like big twist in at the end. Like they're like sort of alluding to something with her character
Starting point is 01:32:50 that makes her a lot bigger. But I think they saw past lives coming and like beefed her up or maybe or something like that. But her role is amazing. And I just want to say, I know that I'm on record
Starting point is 01:33:01 as saying that Jennifer Aniston is the most watchable person in the world and that's why The Morning Show works. Reese is Reese-ing in these first two episodes. Reese is definitely Reese-ing. When Reese Reese-es, it's truly beautiful.
Starting point is 01:33:14 When she goes, you have to pay the ransom. You have to pay the ransom. I'm terrified. Do you think they know? About us? About you? Last year. Tell them you didn't tell them. You have to pay the ransom no that moment I was like peak stone on the plane
Starting point is 01:33:29 it was Reese Reese was Reese-ing and look out for the season also I love so in the first season she had red hair her character had red hair and she's wearing one of the worst wigs in modern human history and then in the second and third season,
Starting point is 01:33:45 they just change her hair to Reese Witherspoon's hair. Like it's just Reese. And what I love. Like just like blonde. Yeah. What I love is like, you can sort of see her roots growing in. And even the roots are like,
Starting point is 01:33:57 obviously brown. It's not the red hair. That's right. Yeah. Another one, which is to say, did Bradley Jackson just have like a red dye job when they found her she had her she had a redhead
Starting point is 01:34:08 era for that year in 2019 or whatever it's so funny that it's just Reese's hair now like with Reese's actual roots it's the perfect show going up to the showrunners and she's like I feel like next season like I'm blonde like
Starting point is 01:34:24 she tried it and like you know like women change their hair like all the time you know it's not I mean I make that buy I don't think it's like a big deal she changed her hair she's blonde again like her hair and they're like we think that that works Reese we can
Starting point is 01:34:39 work with that great you guys are the best I love the energy here Bradley Jackson is in with even in a fictional setting a remark one of the remarkable historical figures of her timeline let's say because she moved from being a nobody to anchoring the evening news of a legacy media terrestrial tv linear tv news program and she went to. And went to space within three years. Yeah. Within three years, her career has been...
Starting point is 01:35:09 She's going to be president. I wouldn't put it past them. Is she a Republican? She's kind of centrist. Yeah. She's going to be president. Yeah. She's sort of in the middle,
Starting point is 01:35:18 and she's really proud to be in the middle. And remember, she was at the insurrection. She was in the Capitol. But no, what these characters always say to her is, they go, Bradley, you're the only person in America who can speak to both sides. Well, that's amazing. In the first season,
Starting point is 01:35:32 Kelly Clarkson cameos as Kelly Clarkson and after she sings her song, Heat, she turns to Bradley Jackson and says, You're a truth teller, Bradley. I stem with you. It's an amazing show. It's one of the best shows on television, bar none. Kelly Clarkson says that?
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah. Kelly Clarkson as Kelly Clarkson. Wow, and does she mean it? Yes. No, Kelly sends it. Oh my God. Kelly kills it. Well, I wish that that person existed,
Starting point is 01:36:01 that she's supposedly talking to. And she kind of does in this little world on tv on the screen and it's it's right there waiting for you're gonna love it i'm gonna dive deep dive i'm gonna be texting you guys blocks of text that you can answer much later it is yes you're so right about that text thing i always think that but i'm saying like it kind of they did it on the other black girl way to do it there is yeah the way you describe the exchange it's just a just cut just cut to a little time jump yeah we're gonna get it you know that that's not feasible because then it's a whole other setup think with your producer
Starting point is 01:36:36 hat on for one goddamn second and you're you're i've never produced i've never produced all the time that's you would not set up a whole new angle, a whole new shot just to do this ridiculous, and I'm sorry, but it's ridiculous. I just wish that like action in television and movies didn't have to happen over text because it's like even phone calls were kind of like, oh, now we're watching a phone call,
Starting point is 01:37:01 but it is like how people communicate. But it's very hard. Like, unless somebody is walking really fast while they're texting, it's hard to give it like immediacy. Yeah. Also, there's like a lot of like Android users in the films and televisions. Like, I saw someone speak on like a Motorola phone. I'm like, what are these crazy phones? That's how I know it's a movie.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Yeah. Well, you know, when the villain has a Samsung, you go, Apple didn't want the villain to have an iPhone.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Oh my God, you know what I'm thinking right now? Like the fact that like we're watching the morning show it's on Apple TV Plus and there's this like cyber attack thing
Starting point is 01:37:40 and they're like, give us all your phones. Like they got through the wireless. It's like, is there anything there? No. It must have been a huge meeting. It was a big meeting. They're like give us all your phones like they got through the wireless it's like is there anything there no it must have been a huge meeting it was a big meeting they're like how do we handle this between the eps and the apple execs but tim cook was saying i don't know about this why are you doing gay voice all all bowen yang's characters are gay i don't know why
Starting point is 01:38:02 all those characters have to be gay you know what what I mean? It's just like play something normal like it doesn't have to all be gay. That's my crutch. Yeah. Stop doing gay voice. You're even doing it now. This is not how you talk. I know. I know. I'm doing the accent. You're doing the Bowen Yang
Starting point is 01:38:22 accent. Doing the voice well what a joyous time with my sister I love getting together with my coven spooky season spooky season
Starting point is 01:38:35 spooky season does anyone do you have any words for people going into fall for Kuntum I would say be in your spooky era. Don't be afraid of the ghouls and ghosts inside of you. But do be afraid of the ones in the
Starting point is 01:38:54 Exorcist trailer. Say that. And I would say this is America, baby. There's much, much more. There's more of this. There's more of this. There's more of this. It's this every day, whatever you say.. There's more of this. There's more of this. There's more of this. There's just more of this. There's this every day, whatever you said.
Starting point is 01:39:07 There's just more of this. Every day. Halloween, it's just more of this. It really is. It really is. It's beautiful. We end every episode with, of course, a song. Yes.
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