Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Ladies of the Canyon" (w/ Ned Riseley & Rachel Wenitsky)
Episode Date: February 27, 2019In a truly inebrious episode of Las Culturistas, Matt and Bowen are joined by fellow ladies of the canyon, Ned Riseley and Rachel Wenitsky of Friends Who Folk. They cement themselves as part of the tr...aumedy canon by discussing "being an Orlando Bitch", what Ned's deal is, Joni Mitchell, and alt kids.---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasLAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, Matt.
Where?
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
Listen, here's the fact.
We were over here on the car,
and we were thinking and talking about our guests.
Oh.
We said, what are we even going to talk to them about?
Nothing.
No, just, and then we laughed and laughed.
And then we laughed and laughed,
because what a joke that was.
Because there is a wealth of things to cover.
When I sat down, I had a thought.
And I actually told everyone in the room that I had a thought.
And I said that I would wait to say the thought until the podcast started.
Do you have it?
And it's now started and I can reveal the thought that I had.
Please.
I'm very excited because I can talk about Orlando on this episode.
When? What forbade you? And you don't know. What precluded you from talking about Orlando on this episode. When? What forbade you?
And you don't know. Precluded you from talking
about Orlando on the other one.
Often we have a guest that's
not an Orlando bitch.
This is an Orlando bitch.
And I feel that at least
one of our guests, because there are
plural guests in the studio.
I don't claim to think
or assume that's just because someone comes on this podcast
that they're an Orlando bitch,
but I know for a fact
we have at least one Orlando bitch in the studio.
It's rude when you're not an Orlando bitch
and you sort of know that we are Orlando bitches.
And I feel like the potentially non-Disney bitch
of the two of our guests should have known that.
But I think they have,
I think they have a very,
I don't want to say they have a theme park energy,
but I can picture the other guests
who's not the confirmed Orlando bitch,
I can picture them very vividly in a theme park
and think they'd have a nice time.
And chomp on a turkey.
But maybe not too scary rides.
Chomp, chomp.
Huh?
I find that this person is very sensitive. Gentle. And I wouldn't want to put them on a turkey leg. But maybe not too scary rides. I find that this person is very
sensitive. Gentle.
And I wouldn't want to put them on a ride with like a loud
sound. No. That might be a
real thing to deal with later on.
He would
scream. He would scream. It's actually rule of culture
number 88. When loud
things happen, people
may scream.
I think that is so true.
I have to reveal something to you.
And this might be hard to hear.
Oh, no.
But one of our guests, and right after this,
I'm going to bring them in and she can explain herself to you.
Okay.
One of our guests, the Orlando bitch,
has begun to start plans with me
about going to Disneyland together in Los Angeles, California.
Stop doing that.
That's me crying.
That's the sound of my tears hitting the floor.
Stop this claptrap.
Your heavy, heavy tears.
Wow.
And unfortunately, you will be in another state and not able to join us.
No.
You guys, why would you do this?
Because she asked.
Look, it's fine.
Like, you and I have different relationships with the confirmed Orlando bitch.
Like, you guys get to go to Disneyland together.
I am on a text thread with her called Club Ass, formerly titled Ass Births, where we
update each other on our daily poops.
Right. And she is a
huge... You're right, that's not the kind of fun I like to have.
She is a huge part of my life in that way.
And... Your ass life.
My ass life. And then the other guest,
the unconfirmed Orlando bitch,
I have loved since the first time
I saw him. To be honest with you,
he's one of those people that you see him and then you ask.
What do you ask?
You're like, what's the deal with him?
Then you find out loving relationship.
And you move on.
And how was that for you?
Easy.
Yeah.
Not that I don't think he's fantastic.
It's just like, you don't have to tell me twice.
But it doesn't surprise you, right? You're like, of course I've spoken for him. Oh, I wasn't think he's fantastic. It's just like, you don't have to tell me twice. But it doesn't surprise you, right?
You're like, of course I've spoken for him.
Oh, I wasn't surprised at all.
And it doesn't like hit you.
It's not like a kick in the gut, a punch in the gut.
You're like, no.
No, it was like a tickle on the shoulder.
It was like, he has a boyfriend.
I was like, okay, yeah, for sure.
Checks out.
You know.
So talented.
So talented.
Both of them, not just one.
And then the confirmed Orlando bitch.
Incredible.
Married to one of our favorite people.
Changed my life.
And then she changed my life.
No, she didn't.
She and I were,
we'll talk about this.
Listen, and not to like,
not to like reference these people
in terms of,
in relation to their partners,
their significant others.
Oh, of course.
They have full, complete,
full lives on their own, and that's
confirmed. This, and we're going to hear some songs
today. That's the reason why we're back in Hot Engineer
Ronnie's studio is
we, in the studio,
we're going to hear their songs.
I love their music so much. And can
I say something? What? Do you know
how every time we come to Hot Engineer Ronnie's studio
he's always playing like a really good
jam? Yeah.
He wasn't playing a good jam today,
but that's because the guests were rehearsing one of their jams.
And so canonically, we're still…
We're still in that space.
Yeah.
I remember Hot Engineer Ronnie played SZA Control
like the week it came out.
And I was like, is this that new SZA album?
And he was like, yeah.
And I was like, it's really fucking good.
And then, of course, I asked like, what's Ronnie's deal? And you were like, is this that new SZA album? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, it's really fucking good. And then, of course, I asked, what's Ronnie's deal?
And you were like, no.
And I was like, okay, cool.
And I moved on immediately.
Well, because you and I were both like,
Ronnie plays Carly Rae Jepsen songs.
I was like, what's up with that?
Is he a friend of Dorothy?
Friend of Dorothy?
In Clueless?
Is he in the Mattakeen Society? Is he in the Mattakeen Society?
Is he in the Mattakeen Society?
Is he a Barbra Streisand ticket holder?
Oh, now we're back to Clueless.
Yeah.
But Ronnie is not.
No.
Which is fine.
And I love that.
We love that.
We celebrate that.
I love all my straight friends.
Now, I love the music so much from our guests
I can't wait
to experience our guests
live in the studio musically
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Spotify, iTunes
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they perform all over the city
they are called Friends Who Folk
please give it up for Rachel Wineski and Ned Risely.
Hi.
What a kooky intro.
I don't think it was kooky.
It was so up and down and all around.
I felt like I was on a dark ride.
Wow.
Now you, how dare you go behind my back and plan this.
Ned, did you know about this?
I know about what?
This Disneyland trip that they're planning.
Oh, I did not know about it yet.
I've told no one.
I am not an Orlando bitch.
I will just say that.
Will you never be?
You don't have to be nervous about saying it.
I could be.
I think I could.
I definitely have enjoyed Orlando.
You've dabbled in Orlando.
I've dabbled in college.
When was the last time you went?
I think I was little.
Yeah, that was your first mistake.
So I don't know.
Yeah, I haven't quite seen it as an adult.
So I don't know what my response would be.
I'm giving Bowen a knowing look.
When I see kids at theme parks,
I think they're going to regret being kids.
Oh, yeah.
At this moment.
Well, I think they—
Just in general.
I recently did an I Don't Think So Honey Kids
at the Magic Kingdom.
I don't think they should be there.
I don't think it's for them.
It's not for them.
Wait, I feel like this is where maybe we disagree
because I feel like Magic Kingdom
is the one place that is for kids.
And the rest of them aren't.
I like to describe Universal Studios
as a theme park for adults.
I think that you're not
that's not inaccurate
have you heard about
the new Harry Potter
coaster that they're
building
of course
no it's bullshit
because now Matt
will say
it's gonna be
there's gonna be
a coaster
it's one of the most
highly themed
coasters
it is supposed to be
really highly themed
what does that mean
it's inside
it's inside
and outside
I think it's gonna be like. I think it's going to be
like the mummy ride.
It's going to be very that.
And there's seven launches.
I'm just telling you,
literally,
be as much of a freak as I am
and go on YouTube
and look at the construction.
The blogs are really excited about it.
And that's the thing.
I'm so proud of you.
Can I say that I'm so proud of you?
The trades are popping off.
The trades are a buzz.
The trades are a buzz.
Wait, can I ask you a question?
What's keeping you from going back to Orlando now?
I don't think, yeah, it's not like an act.
I don't think it's an active aversion to it.
The opportunity just hasn't arisen.
But if you guys invite it.
Well, you have to make your own opportunities.
If you come to LA in February, we will go to all the parks together. That's the plan is that we're going to go. When, you have to make your own opportunities. Right, I know. If you come to LA in February,
we will go to all the parks together.
That's the plan
is that we're going to go.
When are you there again?
First three weeks of Feb.
Okay, so we're definitely going.
I want to do
Disney.
I went to
Knott's Berry Farm
last time I was there.
I heard that's fun.
What's that?
Well, it's like
it is a
berry themed
theme park.
About berries? It's whole thing is berries? Yes. It's like… It is a berry themed theme park. About berries?
Its whole thing is berries?
Yes.
It's like fruit.
I don't like that at all.
I think I would like that.
It started as like a pie shop.
And then there was a really, really long line for the pie shop.
So the guy…
Not Mr. Knot, I guess, was like…
Don Knot.
Don Knot.
Was like, I'm going to put up some attractions to keep the people in line for these berry pies. I guess was like Don Knotts Don Knotts was like
I'm gonna put up
some attractions
to keep the people
in line for these
berry pies
that my wife makes
busy
and then Disneyland
opened and he was like
oh that seems like
a good idea
and just grew it
into a theme park
this is staggering
yeah
you might surpass me
as the theme park bitch
well
oh my god
the guy without a shirt on his back across the street.
Oh my God.
Wait, this is huge.
There is a guy across the street from us who is purely naked.
Purely.
Oh, he's putting on deodorant.
Yes, daddy.
I think he knows we can see.
He's also bouncing up and down and bopping around.
Are you guys exhibitionists?
Wow.
Okay.
I mean, in that I have been naked and continue to be naked in my own home.
Yeah.
But not like in a window.
I wouldn't want a stranger to see me in my window.
Are you commonly nude in the house in front of your partner?
Like, look at me, look at me.
Not really.
Yeah.
When I'm nude, I say, avert your me. Not really. Yeah. When I'm nude, I say…
Avert your eyes.
And I…
No one's ever seen me fully nude.
I always have one very sort of…
A leaf.
A leaf or like a really thin silk scarf that's draped around just so.
Yes.
I love that.
I always have like a light film over me.
Oh.
Wow.
Like a dirty…
It's like an extremely dirty…
It's an extremely dirty, very light coat.
Just dirty enough to never be nude.
And it's see-through.
So there really is no reason for me to…
I love that.
It's like a dirty gown.
Dirty nightgown.
A dirty nightgown.
I love that.
I actually love that for you. Oh yeah, I do that. Do you know what…. I love that. It's like a dirty gown. Dirty nightgown. A dirty nightgown. I love that. I actually love that for you.
Oh yeah, I do that.
Do you know what?
I definitely do that.
Do you know what my mom
got me for Christmas?
What?
A bathrobe.
That's a nice job.
That's really nice.
Yeah, she wants you
to experience luxury.
Yeah.
And I have been.
Yeah.
Is it like a fluffy nightrobe
or like a terrycloth?
It's luxe.
It's luxe. It's luxe.
Okay.
Okay.
It's on a ground there.
It actually says, it says on the, it's, oh man.
What's the name of that place where the Countess Luan,
her husband cheated on her at this place?
I have no idea.
The Marriott.
No, it's like, but it says the name of that hotel.
Mandarin Oriental? No, it's like, but it says the name of that hotel. Mandarin Oriental?
No, it's not that.
The Knott's Berry Farm Snoopy Hotel?
We can float away from this.
I don't remember the name of the place.
Gay Hostel.
I'm just saying it's going to be very hard to be there with Rachel and have to, you know.
I'm so mad.
I don't want to hurt you.
So I want to monitor my Instagramming.
While we're there, though, I'll keep you apprised of all my shits.
Yes.
So Rachel and I are on this thread together.
I didn't update the thread about the time that I shot into the plastic bag though.
I can't believe.
I was too embarrassed.
You know what I realized is that –
So Bone and I are also doing Whole30 together.
Yes.
And we're on a Whole30 text thread and a shit text thread.
But now we're,
we text each other
for everything
that goes into our body
and also everything
that comes out.
That's beautiful.
Is that a lot?
Is that too much?
I don't think so.
Do you,
are you someone
who talks about their poops?
Ever since I've met Rachel,
certainly, definitely.
You're shy about poop stuff,
I think.
I'm a little shy.
Rachel's a very fecal person.
Yeah.
I always really respect
when someone just talks
about their shit.
I actually…
Like, I always think
it's really cool.
I think it's badass.
No, I deeply hate it.
I just took a shit.
But then why don't you
do it for yourself?
I do.
You know,
I just have to wander in.
You know,
I have to be kind of trusting.
Yeah, but I wish I could just be like
balls to the wall. Balls to the wall. Balls to the wall. Shit to wander in. You know, I have to be kind of trusting. Yeah, but I wish I could just be like balls to the wall.
Balls to the wall.
Shit to the brick.
I'm not like…
I wish I could be like the guy across.
Yeah, the guy who just took his shirt off and took his shit in the window.
What if we took our clothes off for him?
I thought you were kind of…
I thought you were kind of entering into the discussion that we all kind of do some strip poker.
That would be crazy for the listeners to know that we were all nude.
We did an episode where when Josh and Aaron came for their first episode, we all took our shirts off.
That's cute.
We did the whole episode shirtless for no reason.
It was because at that point, everyone was wearing hats.
Oh, yeah.
I think you…
Your first time that…
Because you are a two-time guest now.
Yes.
That's true.
And so the first time that you were here,
did we demand that you wear a hat?
I don't think so.
I don't think we…
We wore a hat for the picture.
For the picture.
Yeah.
And I mean the first live,
I don't think so, honey, was a hat.
Yes.
The hats were still very much part of the brand.
Yes.
I looked so bad in that hat.
Oh, I looked terrible in that hat.
It was a big like musketeer hat.
It was like a feather.
Oh, yes.
I think you would look stunning in the hat.
I think it would actually suit you.
Yeah, it would.
I think so.
Yeah.
Now, tell us about how you two met and the journey that brought you to Friends Who Folk.
And have you guys ever folked?
Please tell us.
Well, similarly, when I met Nat, I was like, what's his deal?
And then everyone was like, you're in a long-term relationship.
And I was like, oh.
It couldn't work.
And that's the only reason that we haven't folked.
That's the only reason why it couldn't have worked.
And no other reason.
Yeah.
Yes.
We met at the Williamstown Theater Festival in Massachusetts.
Hot.
Hot.
I feel like I have to apologize whenever I say that.
I know.
Why?
I met at a theater festival.
It's very esteemed.
It's the best.
It is a very esteemed festival.
We were both in plays.
And yeah, we were kind of the people who like wanted to drink the most.
I think that's how we found each other.
Yeah.
This side of Rachel. And people really want to drink there.
But you guys really wanted to drink.
Or we wanted to take it a little less seriously, I think.
There were a lot of grad school actors.
Yeah, a lot of My Body is a Temple. Yeah, bless them. But yeah, they treat their bodies were a lot of grad school actors yeah which my body is a temple
yeah bless them but yeah they treat their bodies with a lot of respect and we were kind of the
people there who wanted to absolutely destroy our bodies and from that Rachel was like you should do
comedy yeah oh yeah you had never done comedy and I was like that's crazy comedy is the most lucrative
yeah you said there's money there's a lot of money in comedy.
I was like, it seems like you're kind of
on the track to become a Broadway actor
and things are really
going well for you. Why don't you start doing
musical stand-up
with me again?
But it's truly
the best thing that's out there
in my opinion. I think it's the best thing that's out there and I feel like
we should just expose the listeners right
now. Let's have Rachel
and Ned sing a song. Can you sing
us a song? We would love to.
Well, this is from
the album or is this not? This is
not on the album.
It is
from after we released. We
released an album a few months ago
and we then wrote this song as soon as the album was done.
Well, the creative process never stops.
It never stops.
It's actually real culture number 93.
The creative process never stops.
Never stops and never sleeps.
No.
And so, tell us…
Do you want to talk about this song before you start singing it?
This is a song about self-care.
Oh, yeah. We love that. Great. We love that
a lot. And this is Friends Who Folk.
Life can be hard. Sometimes you
need to unwind.
I have an end-of-day routine
to clear my mind.
I turn off the lights, silence my phone.
Cause this is a time when I am finally alone.
I lay down and close my eyes.
And then I think about everything I've ever done wrong.
I think about everything I've ever done wrong. I think about everything I've ever
done wrong. I remember all my faults and relive them in my head. And then at 3 a.m. I can finally
go to bed. Ned, what do you think about at night? I think about the time in second grade when I
threw up on the art table. The teacher was showing us what we were gonna draw and I threw up on her picture I could have vomited on the floor, but I threw up on the picture instead
Mrs. Caggiano, I'm sorry about your picture
I think about it every night, it keeps me awake
I lay down and close my eyes
and then I think about everything I've ever
done wrong, I think about everything I've
ever done wrong, I start at the beginning
and go year by year and at 4am
I pass out
Rachel, do you
want to tell us what you think about it? Yes!
I think about the time a girl in high
school told everyone that she thought I
was gay and the reason she that she thought I was gay
And the reason she gave was that I was too obsessed with Sandra Bullock in the movie Two Weeks Notice
That's not something I did wrong, that is something she did wrong
But I'm the one who thinks about that every single night
I think about all the things I can't control
And how I could have controlled them.
I think about all the things that can't be fixed and I try to fix them by thinking about them really hard.
I lay down and close my eyes
And then I think about everything
I think about everything
I scroll through Twitter for seven hours
And at 6 a.m. I go to work
At work I still feel really bad
I think about the time I peed myself at camp
I think about the time I slept with a guy
Who I knew was bad but I fucked him for a year
I think about how I'm not the only one in the world guy who I knew was bad, but I fucked him for a year.
I think about how I'm not the only one in the world, and then I feel bad because the world is bad.
I think about how climate change is real.
I think about the military-industrial complex.
I think about the fact that 53% of white women voted for Trump.
Whoops.
I think about the future when I am dead, and I wonder, will worms eat my eyes?
Will worms eat my eyes? Will worms eat my eyes?
Will worms eat my eyes?
Mmm.
Oh my God. It's my favorite song.
Thank you.
It's so good.
It's my favorite song.
It's truly phenomenal.
Wait, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
This might sound weird.
How does it feel to know, like, you are so talented?
I don't know.
I could ask you the same question, babe.
Don't deflect.
Don't you dare.
I'm not in the hot seat on the hot seat.
You two have such great voices.
Such great writing.
I mean, it's all there.
The musicality.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, I think we initially, like like nerded over our love for music.
And then it became like funny, our interest in it.
Like we both, when we were first friends, like would laugh about how we knew really like obscure Joni Mitchell songs.
And whenever we saw each other, we would kind of sing a little bit of Ladies of the Canyon or something.
Ladies of the Canyon.
So it grew out of like a really genuine love of folk music.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Also like I'm such like a study –
like I love to like be really prepared for things.
I love –
like I think that's why stand up,
even though I did it a few times and like enjoyed it, it was never the thing that I wanted to do because I love to come being so prepared, like a little Hermione Granger.
Yes.
And this is the thing that I know that we can put a lot of work into and that it pays off because the music is good and not, like, shitty comedy music.
It's always going to be a known quantity wherever you go.
Right.
But that is just a testament to your writing in this container,
which is like, it's a song.
It's good.
The jokes are landing in the right places.
It's hitting the audience's ear in the right places.
That's a reason I like to do music too,
is because I know what it is.
You know what I mean
it's not like
it's what you're saying
it's not like
literally the word
I want to write is
inebrious
that can't be right
I don't know
I don't think that's a word
what you're trying to say
inebriated
it's not like drunk
can I tell you what
I love about what you do
it's not inebrious
it's not
that's what I've always said
inebrious
what is it
what am I trying to say?
Amorphous.
Oh.
I know you.
I see you.
You do.
You do.
It's not amorphous.
It's not inebrious.
Can you believe inebrious could be a word?
Your first and only language.
Wait, this is like really, really recently.
I was trying to think of the word for
thesaurus and I kept
just thinking pictionary over and
over and over again. You stupid
idiot. I was like, I have
to look up. I need a new word
for this. I need to look it up in a
pictionary. Wow.
HPE, are you looking
up if inebrius is a word?
No. No. I thought that she pulled her phone out to do this stupid fucking thing. HPE are you looking up if inebrius is a word no no
I thought that she
like pulled her phone out
to like
do this stupid
fucking thing
and she was literally
just texting
just living her life
she was probably
texting
get on this
get on this
is inebrius
is a word
if not
we need to call someone
and make it a word
I think the way
you define inebrius
is to be able to be drunk anywhere.
I'm not.
Like, I am inebrius.
I would say that you're inebrius.
I've seen you drunk in lots of places.
We've been drunk across the country together.
We have.
Yes.
In Chicago.
In Canada.
In Austin.
Oh, I didn't go to Austin. We didn't go to Austin together. But I have been. Oh, no. We went to Austin together. We went to Austin Oh, I didn't go to Austin.
We didn't go to Austin together.
But I have been…
Oh, no.
We went to Austin together.
We went to Austin together.
I didn't go back with you.
Oh, I didn't…
Yeah, no.
I was very…
I was extremely inebrious in Austin every time I go.
Wait, Ned.
Have you ever been drunk in Austin?
I've never been to Austin.
And I don't drink.
No, I do.
I do drink.
I think you would…
I think Ned is on his way to being inebrious.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Thanks so much.
I've learned so much about myself on this podcast.
I'm sensitive.
I don't like loud noises.
I'm on my way to inebriate.
They feel kind of contradictory.
Oh my God, wait.
People ask what your deal is.
Stop, stop, stop.
We've put a lot on Ned, I think.
Well, we have to ask Ned the question. Yes.
But what we're going to say is we're going to put more on you.
Okay. So, we've already
talked to her about this
on her episode. We've already had a discussion
with Rachel. I want to revisit this with her later, though.
Well, you can do whatever you want. It's your show.
But what I want to do
is ask Ned the question.
Yes. Now go on. The question is
what is the culture that made you say, culture is for me?
It's the pop culture in your life that was defining this could be any form of culture.
And it really is very open to interpretation how you answer this, Ned.
A book, a movie, a play.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think actually Jodie Mitchell is like a weird and like a weirdly early touchstone for me.
Like I was like an eight-year-old who loved Joni.
Like it was bizarre.
You're so lucky.
It was very strange.
No.
Like I knew all the words to blue when I was like 10.
Like I was wearing like overalls and I had like a necklace.
I was already a lady of the canyon.
Yes.
So I think that was my way.
Maybe not into pop culture, but into some kind of culture.
That's pop culture.
Yeah, it is pop culture.
Maybe a good title of this ep would be Ladies of the Canyon.
Oh my God.
That would be a dream come true.
Or Foking.
Or Foking.
Foking and Ebreus. Or Enebreus. Enebreusoking. Or Foking. Foking and Nebrius.
Or and Nebrius.
And Nebrius.
I love that.
On his way to a Nebrius.
I love that.
We gotta talk about Joni.
Can we talk about Joni a little bit?
What's your favorite Joni material?
Joni.
Yeah what's my favorite Joni album?
Do you love…
I've been listening to like older Joni lately.
Or I got off her for a bit too.
Because I OD'd
right
it was so scary
I found him
yeah
I was just
yeah
I just had it
on Courtney's bark
this sounds really scary
Rachel
what happened when you found
that Ned had overdosed
on Joni Mitchell
and tell us
walk us through the whole thing
well
just as a disclaimer
this joke is
in really bad taste it joke is in really bad taste
it's already in really bad taste
I'm not saying it's about to be more in bad taste
but just the fact that it was made in the first place
I think is on my part very bad taste
but as we said
this is Howard Stern
that's something we said before we started
rolling
is that what you say rolling?
yeah when we began rolling and I vibe is how you say rolling yeah
rolling when we began rolling when we began rolling and i said let's all say something
super problematic and i'm happy that we've gotten there only 26 minutes checked one box
um but yeah i just like walked in on ned he he was like on the. In a pile of his own Joni outfits. You never told me that part.
He was just
he was
because he had listened to a bunch of later
Joni after he kind of walked away.
Gravelly voice.
Once the smoking had really taken over.
You can't do too much.
I think that the newer version of
Both Sides Now is more beautiful.
It's really beautiful.
It is beautiful.
It makes me kind of sad.
It's too sad.
I can't quite listen to it.
It's a very sad song.
Yeah.
I will die from both sides now.
Well, it's because when she wrote it, it was like, okay, beautiful song.
And then when she did it when she was older, I was like, okay, now you're on the other side.
Right.
Yeah, you got to the other side of the cloud.
I love her so much.
She was also really formative for me.
And I think, I feel like the way that Joni Mitchell to me, like was my pop culture,
was that being a huge Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Sills, Nash & Young, etc. fan as a very young kid,
was like, this solidifies that I will not be like the other girl.
I was like, I'm not going to be cool
because this is what I like to listen to.
Wow.
But then, you know, found my people.
There you go.
Yeah.
Joni is that thing though where it's like,
it's like a North Star for a lot of people. It's like, I mean, it's like, yeah, it's like it's like a North Star
for a lot of people.
It's like
I mean it's like
yeah it's like you guys said earlier
like it's how you guys
you guys found each other
and like
I think
she just
my favorite thing about Joni
is that she
makes you
she makes you more human
by listening to it.
Yeah she definitely is.
It's
it's
she's a poet. She's a poet.
She's a poet.
Yeah.
Her lyrics are unrivaled.
So good.
And California?
Yeah.
One of my favorite songs of all time.
Beautiful.
All of Court and Spark.
All of Court and Spark.
All of Ladies of the Canyon.
Ladies of the Canyon.
I just cannot overstate how much I love that song.
Yeah.
And it is a funny song.
Trina wears her on Bambi.
Yeah, when we were first becoming friends,
we would just sing like really dumb lines
from that song to each other.
Like…
And all our fat and none our thin.
All our fat and none our thin.
Did you start writing your material
while you were at W-Town?
Or did that continue?
Because what happened was your theater festival ended and you said, we must stay in deep touch.
Yeah.
Yeah, we stayed in deep touch.
Like for anyone who doesn't know Williamstown, it's like we're touching each other physically, very deeply.
Like Joni would touch you.
But Williamstown is like, what, three months, two and two and a half months yeah you guys were gone for a long you're like a way reality yeah
you're sleeping in like an un-air-conditioned dorm room in a twin-size bed and you're with the same
like 15 people every second of life danner is there yeah wow uh who else who like cuckoo was
there cynthia noo was there?
Cynthia Nixon was there while we were… It was like just the weirdest.
You're like, oh, I'm at the local coffee shop with Cynthia Nixon.
But you get like really close to people and it's crazy.
And then you come out and it's like you've been through a war together.
There's a cult like…
Yeah.
It is a cult.
So we got out and we were like…
We got out. We finally got out. Yeah. It is a cult. So we got out and we were like… We got out.
We finally got out.
Yeah.
And you…
Yeah.
And then I got…
I got asked to do a show that was about like political stuff.
And I was like…
I was like, come write a song with me about politics.
And we'll sing our song about politics.
And then it went well.
And we were like, we should keep doing this.
Yeah.
It happened kind of accidentally.
Or like, yeah, someone was like,
what are you called?
And we had to like think of a name.
Yeah.
Can you explain the name Friends Who Folk?
It's a pun.
It's a pun on fucking.
Yeah.
Oh.
And it's like friends who fuck.
I'm inebrious.
Friends who fuck. I'm sorry. I'm a little inebrious. You're getting a little belligerent and inebrious. Sorry. I'm inebrious.
I'm sorry, I'm a little inebrious.
You're getting a little belligerent and inebrious.
Sorry, Matt's inebrious.
He's just drunk everywhere.
He's drunk everywhere.
At this moment, ATM.
With a Pictionary in hand.
You, but then my favorite folking pun is folking lessons,
which I think was the name of the show. Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God. That was our show where only 20 people came and Bowen, pun is Foking Lessons, which I think was the name of the show.
Oh my god, that was our show where only 20 people came
and Bowen, and Bowen was the only
person laughing.
No, it was such a good show.
No, but that was the most generous thing
that a friend has ever done for me.
Come to my show where truly the only
people there were like my mom.
And your mom?
My mom. Yeah, both of your parents were there. Our like my mom. And your mom? My mom. Yeah.
Both of your parents were there.
Our moms were there.
And weirdly like a table of industry.
It was a great show.
And then Bellen who laughed so loud and it was so nice.
It's my favorite step.
I remember the first time I saw, it wasn't even called Friends Who Folk at that point,
but it was you two put a video up on Facebook of you guys singing We Are Friends,
but we don't have sex.
But we don't have sex.
And I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen.
My favorite was the first thing we did.
Yeah.
But then like
the Friends Who Folk as
it is iterated now is like through
that political show.
I think so, yeah. That was like when we wrote it
and then when we wrote our first song
and then we just kept writing.
Yeah, it was like people asking wrote it and then when we wrote our first song and then we just kept writing. And then we did Blythe.
Yeah.
Yeah. It was like people asking each of us to do shows and.
Hopping on.
Yeah, we would hop on and it became a thing.
Yeah.
Started with a political song and then we just started writing dumber and dumber songs
until here we are.
And of course, we all have our roots in writing dumb songs together.
It's true.
The three of us anyway.
Yeah.
When Ned was very young.
Yeah, Ned hadn't even been born yet.
Yeah, I think I saw the last show when I was
three years old.
Pop Roulade feels like
actually another lifetime.
We are not the same
people. Which is funny.
I saw you guys at Union Hall.
I do think it was like late in the game.
Yeah, when we were doing our live…
Our full band shows.
Yeah.
You know what's crazy?
That those were…
Those popular shows that we did at Union Hall were never like crazy well attended.
I know.
I go to shows…
I feel like every show I go to at Union Hall now is sold out.
And I'm like…
Did Union Hall kind of like pop off in the last two years?
I don't know.
I still… We always do our monthly show at Union Hall and I love that venue so much.
And also, we've done shows there that had a lot of people and shows where there were truly no people.
And I don't know what, that just might be us though.
I did a show there a year ago with Sam Taggart and five people came.
What show was that?
It was Derbys.
Derbys.
Oh my God.
And we were not clear about what the show was.
And we patched it together at the last second.
And it was a crazy show.
I liked that you guys announced that you had a show called Derbys
and that no one knew what it was.
And gave no information.
I like this idea, this new thing of creating a show that doesn't have an identity and saying,
buy tickets to this.
Edie Monica does that.
I love her.
She'll announce like, hi, come to my new show.
My butts smell like ass.
My butts smell like shit.
And you're like, what is this?
That feels very our brand as well.
It is.
My butt smell like shit. My butt smell like shit.
My butt smell like shit.
Edie's amazing.
She opened up.
You weren't there, but she opened up for my last Christmas show.
She did the funniest fucking character.
And speaking of openers for my Christmas show also.
Friends Who Phone.
True.
And I was on the side thinking, this is the comedy that I want to see in the world.
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I, okay, I need to ask, we need to ask,
we need to talk more about Joni.
Ned, Joni, Joni over Carol.
Bringing it back to Joni.
Joni over Carol.
Joni over Carol, yeah.
I mean, I love Carol King.
I'm doing this thing though, where I'm pitting women.
You're pitting women against each other.
And it is toxic.
You're right.
You're right.
Never mind.
I take that back.
Did you see the musical Beautiful?
I didn't.
I did.
I did.
Beautiful is the Orlando theme parks of Broadway shows.
I want to see it.
How dare you say that when King Kong is just streets over. I want to see that. I want to see King Kong really bad actually. I really want to see it. How dare you say that when King Kong is just streets over.
I want to see that.
I really want to see King Kong too.
Let's go to King Kong.
Ben Moss told me it's scary.
I heard it's scary. Because the Kong is
so big. It's a big Kong.
He's a huge fucking Kong.
That show has a huge Kong.
He terrorizes the city.
I heard the Kong is absolutely huge.
And I even hear the Kong so big and so unwieldy that sometimes the Kong will malfunction.
How does the Kong work?
That's very Orlando.
It goes like this.
Is it a puppet?
I think it is.
It's like a puppet slash animatronic.
It's not an actor.
It is.
No, because it's huge.
You've done the Reign of Kong.
Oh, Universal.
You've done the Universal.
The Crystal Skull.
Wait, isn't it?
Skull Island Reign of Kong.
You've done that, right?
Yes, yes.
Okay, with the big ass King Kong at the end?
Yes.
That's gaggy.
That was the Kong. The Kong at the end? Yes. That's gaggy. That was the gong.
The gong.
The gong at the end is a gag.
Wait, that gong was so big.
No, that gong is huge.
I don't quite remember the gong.
Oh, it's because you were inebrious.
The rest of the ride didn't do it for me, though.
No, because it's too many screens.
Hashtag too many screens.
Hashtag too many screens.
And also, the car is so big.
The van or whatever is so big that you can be sitting in the middle of it.
And then you like can't see out the window.
That's a thing.
Do you like Star Wars, Ned?
I do.
You know that Disney World's getting Star Wars land.
Oh.
Yeah, so maybe that would be a good opportunity.
I could get into that.
I could get into the park for you.
There's going to be a ride where you get on the Millennium Falcon.
Oh, that's what I've wanted to do since I
was a little boy
I bet
yeah
I bet being a fan of
Star Wars that you
wanted to get on that
thing
I'm ready
yeah you're ready
do you guys need a
moment
do you guys need a
moment
yeah honestly
what's his deal
he's taken
oh sorry
I'm over it
a little tingle on
the shoulder
tickle
a tickle
shoulder tickle
have you done Avatar
no
oh my god
it is a go
guys
is it
wait have you seen the movie Avatar
yeah of course
okay great
then you would love this
Sigourney
Sigourney
her star making
yeah that's why
she became famous
it's actually rule of culture
number 18
Sigourney became a star
in Avatar
yeah oh I absolutely could not get through that movie It's actually rule of culture number 18. Sigourney Boussama star in Avatar. Yeah.
I absolutely could not get through that movie without feeling so motion sick.
It's a disgusting movie.
It's very weird.
I was sitting.
There are three movies I've had to walk out of
because they made me sick to my stomach
because of how shaky the camera was
and how sick I was.
Was Wrinkle in Time one of them?
No, because I saw that on a... Oh, no, wait. Wrinkle in Time, I had to leave No, because I saw that on a...
Oh, no, wait.
Wrinkle in Time, I had to leave.
I think I saw that on a plane.
I had to leave.
Oh, God.
Only you can wrinkle time.
Thank you, City Green.
No, the three films, though, are The Big Short.
What?
Because it's such a shaky cam.
Oh, my God.
It made me feel so sick
um
Avatar
which I
you wouldn't like Jumanji
had to leave
and um
Precious
oh
I was sitting so close
to the screen
and it made me feel so sick
because it was such a shaky camera
oh my god
how are you with the favorite
because that had all that
like weird fish eye
I think I was far enough
away from the screen
that's good
it made you feel I wish I was far enough away from the screen. That's good. It made you feel.
I wish I could like do movie reviews somewhere where they're just reviewed based on how motion sick they made me feel.
Yeah, it should just be you in the front row of every movie reviewing it that way.
I'm like, wait, but as an Orlando bitch, you have.
Yeah, you love the thrill.
Dramamine. Oh, you're a Dramamine taker?
I have to take...
Okay, so the rides that really make me...
Talking a big game and then we're taking a Dramamine.
I just want to say...
The Simpsons ride?
And I'm sensitive.
The Simpsons ride is fucking crazy.
The Simpsons ride, I thought I was going to pass away in.
Oh my God.
I almost passed away on that.
I had to close my eyes.
Yes.
I feel like we need to apologize to Ned.
Why?
For calling him sensitive.
Yes, this is perfect.
No, I am very sensitive.
I said that my way into pop culture was Joni Mitchell.
We didn't mean sensitive in the pejorative at all.
What's pejorative?
Like in a negative way.
It's like inebriance.
No, I didn't mean pejorative at all. I did not. It's like inebriance. It's like inebriance. You know.
No, I didn't mean pejorative at all.
I did not mean that pejoratively.
I love sensitive.
Ned is really sensitive.
I am actually very sensitive.
We weren't being pernicious.
I know.
I know.
Oh my gosh.
What a word.
What's Ned's deal?
Take it.
Sensitive.
He's folk floor.
Love.
The Millennium Falcon.
The Millennium Falcon. And Joni Mitchell. That's cool though. Millennium Falcon the Millennium Falcon and Joni Mitchell
Millennium Falcon
the Falcon
the Falcon
the Millennium Falcon
Falcon
that's great that you were able
to be so dynamic
as to contain the multitudes
of I like Joni Mitchell
but would like to ride
and maybe even drive
the Millennium Falcon
would love to drive it
yeah
it would be my honor
now you guys
started writing new stuff
as soon as the album came out.
Do we have a timeline on the next release?
Oh, my gosh.
The next album release?
The next album, yes.
Well, we have to keep writing and then we also have to just raise the capital.
Yeah.
As they say in the biz, to pay for an album.
Yeah. Does it all just go to studio, to pay for an album. Yeah.
Does it all just go to studio stuff?
Yeah.
Studio fees?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
We recorded our first album at a studio called The Relic Room.
Know it well.
Which is a great studio where we also record the Story By Arts podcast.
And we just like want…
In the same vein of like wanting the music to sound like good music…
We want it to be recorded well.
Yeah.
It sounds so good.
It's a great studio.
It is.
Okay.
It's a great studio.
It's a great studio.
Great studio.
Back in the studio.
Studio.
What is this?
I've started to realize that asking people about process is like impossible.
Because basically all you're asking is how oh I read
I read less and like it's
I loved it didn't you love did you read it too
we all read it okay Matt have you read it
I think Matt you should read it
Matt would fucking love it I think you would too
what is it about
a gay man
it's about this
gay author who
is turning 50 and he's having this like
a bit of a midlife crisis around like aging as like a gay man and then his ex-lover is getting
married um and he starts freaking out so then he goes on this book tour around the world in order
to escape that and like think about what it means to like go into middle age and then it's like a really beautiful
meditation on that yeah it's really funny it's so funny too it's really funny i love that it's
a book about what it's like to feel sorry for yourself while also recognizing that it's shitty
to feel sorry for yourself when you have a lot of privilege yes oh yeah i think it grapples with
that very well,
where he's like,
I don't matter and I don't deserve to feel this way.
But the thing is, like,
this is something that I've sort of, like,
come around on is, like,
we're not walking around thinking,
well, I shouldn't feel bad because I'm so privileged.
Right.
Exactly.
You're still in a lived-in experience where it's like,
I'm going through a shitty time that has, for the most part,
might not have to do with my identity.
I mean, maybe it does.
I mean, of course it does.
That actually is more harmful to say,
let me ignore my feelings because they could be worse.
That's how I think you make yourself sick.
Yeah.
Well, that's exactly.
I do think that like the complexities
of all of that is what that book is about
and also it's funny and
sweet
the ending is so nice
is there an incredible love story
you have to read it
it's pretty sexy
there's fun little sex
it's not like 50 shades of grey
it's not what Rachel it's not like Fifty Shades of Grey. It's not what, Rachel?
It's not Fifty Shades of Grey.
It's not Fifty Shades, but like…
What happens in that book?
That book is also about like…
Yeah.
Kind of a contemplative inner look at like privilege and class in America.
Totally.
Yes.
And also what it's like to put an egg in your vagina.
Famously, we went to go see Fifty Shades of Grey when it came out with
Anna Dresden on Valentine's Day.
And I'll never forget
the moment when three quarters of the way through the film
after 800 sex scenes,
a little boy in the back of the theater
was like, Daddy, I need to go
to the bathroom.
And everyone in the theater was like,
No!
Everyone screamed.
It was the most cathartic thing we've ever been a part of.
It was so funny.
It was hilarious.
Everyone was horrified.
I love nothing more than a gasp from an audience.
That's not about the movie.
It just washed over the whole audience.
It was so fabulous.
That's so terrible.
Fabulous.
That poor child.
Yeah, and speaking of washing over an audience,
I think that it's time for you to wash another song over us, your audience.
Oh my God, what a dream.
The thing about this song is that it's incredibly niche.
Niche.
Niche.
Don't correct.
Niche. What is it't correct. Niche.
What is it?
Because I always said niche
and then people say niche.
No, they're wrong.
And now I'm like,
it's inebrious.
As two niche people,
we can tell you that it's niche.
When people,
as two people who are constantly told
by TV networks and…
That you're too niche.
That we're too niche.
Yeah.
Which means gay.
It's niche.
You got it, got it, got it.
When did you come out as niche?
Oh my God, were your parents...
In general, two years ago.
Did your parents have a hard time, like, accepting that you were niche?
Yeah, they were like...
They've known I was niche for a long time.
I think it was harder than when I came out as gay.
Yeah.
My parents were like, we're sending you to an ex-niche therapist in Colorado Springs.
And it's like really informed my identity as an adult.
Now tell us about this niche song.
Well, I don't want to say too much about it, but it is a prayer.
Yes.
And.
You guys are very religious.
We are extremely religious.
It's a big part of what we do.
Yeah, we sort of haven't touched on that, but we're both
very Christian.
Well, God's real.
God is real.
And
I hope you're ready for us to take you to church.
Thank you. This is Friends Who Fuck.
She She sips a dry martini in the corner She nods and smiles at the maitre d'
The candlelight flickers across her velvet bowler hat
Who is she?
Patti LuPone. Just another Wednesday night at Sardi's Just another grueling to-show day
She limply gives a wave to an old friend Across the dining room
That friend is Victor Garber La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. Patti Luppone, Patti Luppone.
Born Patti Ann Luppone in 1949.
She went to Juilliard Group One.
She's been in everything from Gypsy to Les Miserables
But most importantly
Law and Order
Whoa, you think it's Law and Order?
That feels like kind of homophobic
from musical theater star Patti LuPone.
Excuse me?
You're calling me homophobic?
It is actually extremely sexist of you to think that a woman could be homophobic.
Plus, she's very known for Law & Order.
Like, she has a guest starring arc on SVU.
Okay, okay.
What's her character's name, if you're such a fan?
Wow.
Ruth Miller, ADA.
Bitch.
La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la.
Ruth Miller, ADA.
Played by Patti LaPole.
She looks around the bar. It's time to pack it in
She turns to her friend Sean
A 24-year-old gay man
She says if there's one thing
That I have learned in my career
It's call me a fucking cab
I'm Patti LuPone La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la
Patti LuPone
Patti LuPone
Everybody!
La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la
Don't cry for me
Patti LuPone.
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
Thank you for singing with us.
That was incredible.
And it was our joy to do that.
I forgot the words for a sec, but that's the magic of live theater.
Live podcast.
Where does that come from?
Did you actually observe
Patti LuPone
and her natural habitat
of Sardis?
I actually did see
Patti LuPone at Sardis
at one point.
And it was actually
one of the crazier
celebrity sightings.
Like it was the most predictable
actually to see
Patti LuPone at Sardis.
But meaningful.
But meaningful.
But I was like shocked.
I'm usually not that shocked
by seeing a celebrity in New York,
but seeing Patti LuPone in a bowler hat at Sardi's felt like really iconic.
Well, you know what it is?
It's when I think about, when I see a celebrity, I'm like,
have I seen this person in a room with hundreds, if not thousands of people
where we're all focused on this one person? And now am I if not thousands of people where we're all focused
on this one person and now am I like
within feet of them? If the answer is yes
then I'm like this is crazy and this is so overwhelming.
That like someone who's been so
that I've seen so on
display in a room. Suddenly
I'm like within feet of them. I'm like oh that's
nuts. I don't know. That's my weird
thing with celebrity. Well it feels crazy to see
famous people. At all. I've't know. That's my weird thing with celebrities. Well, it feels crazy to see famous people.
At all.
Like I've seen famous people where I'm like, yeah, I mean obviously this famous person exists.
Yeah.
And then others where I'm like, it's actually impossible to me that they're a flesh and blood person that's standing here.
Patty's one of those people.
Yeah. So when you see a celebrity multiple times like in person, you're like that's not the same person I saw.
But it fully is. Like I've seen Kelly
Clarkson in person 10 or 11 times
and I think she might
keep being replaced.
Oh my god. Conspiracy theory.
But it is her every time.
Like the Kelly Clarkson I saw
in Los Angeles
do a little gig.
And she was fully different.
But she was fully different.
But she was the same Kelly Clarkson that we saw at The View.
And yet there she was.
And yet there she was. It's just crazy that she's out there living a life right now because I love her so.
I know.
She gets to go to different places.
I know.
Like Patti LuPone is doing something.
Right now.
Right now.
That's so crazy to think about.
Are you guys Patti fans?
Oh, big time.
Love her.
But I'll say this.
I'm a huge Patti LuPone fan,
but the one time I saw her on stage
was a matinee of Gypsy,
and I felt like I didn't live up to what I wanted.
I loved her in Gypsy and saw it twice.
She's amazing.
Someone told me that they saw her in something
and she had a cold.
That was me.
Oh, yes.
That was you.
Okay, then tell the story. I saw Gypsy on Broadway twice, Someone told me that they saw her in something and she had a cold. That was me. Oh, yes. That was you. Okay.
Then tell the story.
I saw Gypsy on Broadway twice.
And the second time she had a cold and she held a tissue the entire time.
That's so iconic.
She incorporated it.
That's my dream.
She famously like doesn't ever…
Like she never calls out of shows.
She never calls out.
So she was sick and still went.
And she just incorporated this tissue into the character
and would kind of like blow her nose and sneeze into it.
Very Juilliard.
She made it work.
Oh my God.
Mama Rose is sick tonight.
Yeah.
She's been sick for 30 years.
It was amazing.
She just said that at the beginning.
Yeah.
Mama Rose is sick tonight.
Stop taking pictures.
I just love her so much.
She does the most iconic performance
I think at that Kennedy Center
honors Barbara Cook. Oh my god, yes.
I'm gonna love you
like nobody loves you
come rain or come shine.
I didn't do it right.
She's amazing. She's amazing.
She, she's, you know what
the best part, my favorite part about
Patti, my favorite thing about Patti is that
she's amazing in interviews.
She's an incredible
watch what happens live interview.
Where she fucking shits on Madonna.
She said Madonna's a movie killer.
And can't act worth shit.
Dead eyes or something?
She's got dead eyes and she can't act worth shit.
And then she described the first time
they ever met
and she said that Madonna only said. And then she described the first time they ever met.
And she said that Madonna only said to her,
I'm taller than you.
Insane.
Oh my God.
I saw her in War Paint too, which was like... Oh, was that?
How was War Paint?
I felt that that was the story of me and Bowen.
Yeah.
We wrote a show called Night Soap
that was very similar to War Paint.
Okay, yes.
Actually, I saw the first Night Soap that was very similar to War Paint okay yes actually I saw
the first Night Soap
and
okay well
first and only
if anyone
I hope no one listening
worked very hard
on War Paint
because I will say
Night Soap was like
good War Paint
I felt that
even though I didn't
see War Paint
I felt that's what
we were doing the whole time
was good War Paint
the songs
the songs in Night Soap were more memorable than the songs in War were doing the whole time was good war paint. The songs in Night Soap
were more memorable
than the songs
in War Paint
which is a lot
because there weren't any.
There were not any songs.
There was a fight scene
in space.
There was
with breakaway glass.
With breakaway glass
and space guns.
We have to do it again.
It's so fun.
That show was amazing.
Thank you.
I can't believe
we did it once for like 70 people.
Wait, what was the premise?
Night Soap was a play that Bella and I wrote for Ars Nova and Fest two years ago.
Two years ago.
Was that two years ago?
Yeah.
Where we played two women, a warring matriarchs of two chocolate dynasties.
I was Barbara Hershey, who's also the actress.
And I was Veronique Neslie. And basically what happened was they were old, who's also the actress. And I was Veronique Nestle.
And basically what happened was they were old, old, old friends.
Who came up with a patent for a chocolate that could be edible in space.
Like transportable and edible in space.
But the thing is like their husbands were constantly having conflict because they were Mr. Hershey and Mr. Nestle.
And so they were like, well, let's get together and like sort of like figure this out.
Because the men certainly can't. And over the
course of the first scene, which is the first act
you find out that, was it I
was fucking your son? You were fucking my son.
I was fucking her son.
And then
the communication breaks down
and it's not until
second act in the Alps
where we see each other again
in the chalet
in the chalet
oh my god
in the Swiss chalet
this show was so funny
thank you
it's truly
I keep saying this
it's the only thing
that I look back on
that I'm like proud of
that like
the only thing
I read the script
I read the script
like two months ago
and I was like
this holds up
you think so?
yeah
it needs to be produced
and then of course the third act spoiler alert takes place in space and there is a fight Two months ago and I was like, this holds up. You think so? Yeah, it needs to be produced. I think we got to do it again.
And then of course the third act, spoiler alert, takes place in space.
And there is a fight to the death and we have a full space outfit.
Yeah, you were wearing like body suits.
And then there's a twist ending that I am so proud of.
There's a huge twist ending.
People gasped.
Yeah, I was shocked.
We won't spoil it because you guys should do it again.
We can't spoil it.
Or maybe that's your niche pitch to networks.
Yes, niche pitch.
Literally, I did meet with one production company.
I will not say which.
And I described the idea and they were fucking gagged for it.
They liked it?
Yeah, I'll tell you who it was later.
Maybe it'll be on some sort of niche
network near you
sometimes
okay but this was
gonna get me into my thing
before we talked about
Les and this is actually
a great segue
into your guys'
writing process
and like the thing
that they say in Les
is like
what else is there
to ask a writer
except how
but like I feel like
do you guys have
a streamlined way
of like writing
your stuff
or is it like
more like just like you guys are playing around with
different ideas?
Both.
Yeah I feel like it's often
it has often been that we have like
an idea and
kind of with that idea like a
genre or we're like that's a Sarah
McLaughlin's or whatever it is
and then we kind of
riff on that but then we kind of riff on that
but then we also
there's also been ones
where like
we have an idea
and it's a little more
fully formed
and then
we help the other
like
bring it to life
but it's often us
like really just
at a guitar
and with a computer open
like
improvising stuff
diddling
diddling
yeah
because sometimes it's like,
sometimes it'll be me being like,
I want to write a song about,
about how like treating,
like staying up all night,
worrying about stuff is a,
is like a type of self-care.
Like let's write that
and then we'll sit down and write it.
Or it'll be Ned being like,
can we write a song about the movie Stepmom?
I love that one.
And then we'll do that.
Or like we just did, we just wrote a song about Marie Kondo.? I love that one. And then we'll do that. Or like we just did…
We just wrote a song about Marie Kondo.
That was literally…
Because Ned was like making fun of me for doing Marie Kondo stuff.
And he was like…
I just like want…
Well you're doing Whole30 and Marie Kondo.
Which is like you're just…
You're setting yourself up for failure.
Marie Kondo is the Whole30.
It's the Whole30 of your space.
Yes.
Yeah.
But then you…
No I think I also believe in you.
I'm sorry.
Thank you so much.
I'm trying to change my life and you are actively keeping me back.
No, I want…
I want…
I really want you to change your life.
We all desperately need you to change everything about you.
We want Rachel to change her life.
But Ned was like, I just like think that I just want Marie Kondo to like come over and scream at me.
And then like we're like, well, that's the whole song.
And then we wrote it in 15 minutes.
Yeah, it just feels like everyone wants Marie Kondo to really like dom them right now.
Would you be able to do that one?
We could try.
We could try to do it right now.
Try and do a little clapping.
It's an acapella song.
I'm going to forget the words.
What's our key?
Great.
Okay.
Let them do it
you can cop with us
I want Marie Kondo
to scream at me
and tell me that I've been
a bad bad boy
I want Marie Kondo
to write a letter to my parents
And tell them I'm a messy piece of shit
I want Marie Kondo to convict me of a crime I didn't commit
And put me in jail for my whole life.
I want Marie Kondo
to look me dead in the eyes
and say you don't spark joy.
I'm gonna donate you to a church.
I want Marie Kondo to scream at me and tell me that I've been a bad, bad boy.
I want Marie Kondo to drive me to the dump and throw me in the dump.
And then I'll finally be free.
Be free.
Be free.
Yes!
Okay, we sort of know the lyrics.
Wow, that was great.
I like that news friend to a folk song.
And also, I vividly pictured someone looking.
I think this would be a good reality show.
Marie Kondo, but with friendships.
So it's like,
you have to look someone in the eye.
It's like,
you've decided that out of your five friends,
three of them don't spark joy.
And you have to tell them.
You have to tell them.
That's a very Matt Rogers pitch.
You seem so excited to do that.
You're like,
you have friends,
but you have too many friends.
I think that's called boundaries.
Tonight.
I just love Marie Kondo. I love her. I think that's called boundaries. I just love
Marie Kondo.
I've Marie Kondo'd my room too.
You did? I'm very cynical about it
but I believe in it.
I think it works.
I think
the way your living space is organized
is a direct reflection of your mental
state and
it's helped.
I don't know. I just like
I did the whole thing where I put everything
on my bed, went through the stuff I wanted
to keep and I'm honestly
thinking that like all these goodwill's and churches
and places, these donation places are like
overwhelmed right now. So I'm
just tossing it in the trash.
Is that bad? Yes.
I don't want them
to go to it. I don't think that's bad.
I think your rationalization is crazy.
I think the idea that they're overwhelmed is not the way to go.
But if you want to throw out your stuff, you should go for it.
It's an intense projection.
You just overwhelmed at the thought of it.
Yeah, I feel like the soup kitchen, they're getting a lot of monetary donations right now, so I'm just taking
my money and I'm burning it. It's not that
no, this is the thing. It's not that I'm
bringing, if I were bringing money to the Goodwill,
I'd be like, here's a thousand dollars. But they're still
goods. No, I understand what you're saying.
I think that it's fine because I
think that, I think it's fine to take stuff there even if
they are overwhelmed because I think a lot of those places
have the means to recycle
textiles. And a lot of these places have the means to recycle textiles.
And a lot of these places,
a lot of the Goodwills I hear
just toss most of the donations.
They just throw it in the garb.
They do, they do, they do.
That's very possible.
So you're performing a service.
I am.
H&M recycles used textiles.
Oh, right, right.
Oh, I should have done that.
I think it's fine.
I've definitely thrown like old underwear.
Like it doesn't matter.
I have a…
I mean I save all my old underwear.
I throw it in a basket to save the stuff.
You eat it.
Yeah, for dinner.
Yeah.
I save it for dinner.
I can't get enough of this stuff.
Whole 30.
Yeah.
Whole 30.
Whole, whole 30.
I'm eating…
Yeah, because it's been on my whole...
Your butthole's been touched.
I'm eating 30 pairs of underwear this month
and that's my self-care.
You're glowing.
And that's it.
Sometimes it gets really late at night
and I feel my stomach start to rumble
and I'm like,
I really want to eat my underwear right now.
But you can't because it's one a day.
I have a service coming tomorrow
to pick up all the clothes that I Marie Kondo'd.
You didn't tell me you were Marie Kondo-ing. I Marie Kondo'd. Oh my God. You didn't tell me
you were Marie Kondo-ing.
I did it with my clothes.
I did.
You so tiny.
I did it before the documentary.
I did it before anyone
was even talking about it.
I did it weeks ago.
The documentary.
Oh, well, aren't you cool?
Aren't you punk rocked?
Isn't it a documentary on that?
It's a reality show.
It's a reality show.
It's a documentary.
Starring Marie.
It's a doc.
Yeah, who is…
I think she's…
Is she stunning?
She is stunning
and I think she's the nicest, sweetest soul on the planet.
Doesn't judge anybody.
Yeah.
She loves kids.
She loves kids.
She's like, okay, we'll work through this.
Has helped this gay couple.
It was so cute.
Oh, my God.
I love her.
I also love, I love that the show.
Ally.
Ally.
She's an ally.
She speaks in Japanese, which I love. I love that it's Ally Ally She's an ally She speaks in Japanese
Which I love
I love that it's like
You're gonna watch subtitles
We're not like forcing this
It feels very
Like an un-American thing
To let a
Yes
Foreign person
Just speak their native tongue
In a popular show
You know what also feels
Very un-American about it
Like the week it came out
Last week
Like all these people
I was talking to
All these people I was talking to were like,
it just feels like
it's the same thing over and over again. There's no conflict.
I'm like, yeah, that's okay. Yeah, that's very British.
It's British. It's very Asian for this
thing to be like, you're just going to watch these people
improve their lives and not put up
a fight. Right. They're just going to
be like, oh yeah, it's just as
easy as folding our clothes a specific way and
putting it somewhere else and putting our papers in a a box great and then like that's it and they're
happier yeah americans love to be traumatized by television we love drama and i get and that's me
like i love that's me i love to be absolutely traumatized every time i watch. But it's a nice reprieve. Do you like trauma?
I think 2019 trauma is going to be big.
And it's going to feel great.
Yes.
I love like hard dramas.
TNT, we know trauma.
The way you just asked.
Do you like trauma?
TBS, trauma welcome asked do you like trauma
do you like trauma
are you a fan of trauma
do you like comedy
drama or trauma
I'm actually writing
a new hour long trauma
I'm writing a
traumity
a traumity
in truth trauma is what we are writing yes Traumaty. Traumaty. Traumaty. Traumaty.
In truth,
Traumaty is what we were all writing.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's where you really dig deep
and then write like
a whole show about your butthole
for no reason.
When are you guys going to have kids?
Who says we don't?
Oh.
We had kids together.
That was the first part of the collaboration.
We said, if we're going to do this, we need to have children.
We need to have created something human first.
You know, I'm in this place now where I saw my sister with my beautiful niece.
And I was like…
Nice.
Gorgeous niece.
Quite a niece.
Ms. Weiss.
One of the top five nieces in my opinion.
One of the top five nieces.
Okay, Ms. Weiss. Thank you. I five nieces, in my opinion. One of the top five nieces. Okay, Ms. Weiss.
Thank you.
I'm like, I don't think I want this.
I literally, the other day, decided I didn't want children.
What was the deciding factor for you?
Okay, I watched a parent and his son run across the street,
and the son accidentally ran a little bit in front of his dad,
and his dad knocked him over, and the kid plopped on the ground. And the dad did that like ran a little bit in front of his dad. And his dad knocked him over. And the kid flopped on the ground.
And the dad did that thing of like freaking out.
Because he thought the kid might have been hurt.
But the kid was absolutely fine.
And then he freaked the kid out.
And the kid started screaming.
And I was like, God, I can't do this.
Oh my God.
You know what I mean?
Because I'd be knocking my kid over all the dude off fucking day.
Get out of my way, kid.
Yeah.
I'm going where I'm going.
You never walk in front of a star. No. Don't my way, kid. Yeah. I'm going where I'm going. You never walk
in front of a star.
No.
Don't walk in front of a star.
Daddy's a star.
Yeah.
That's the thing
is it's like
I wouldn't want my kid
to have their daddy
be a star.
Yeah.
I feel
I feel like
really crazy
that if I have kids
their parents
will work in entertainment.
I don't
If you have kids?
Like if I had kids like I just feel like parents are supposed to be kids their parents will work in entertainment. If you have kids?
If I had kids
I just feel like parents are supposed to be
accountants and
lawyers and actuaries
which is what my dad did.
A very boring job that I never could
describe or understand.
The fact that if I have kids they're going to have to be
like my parents are comedy writers
or whatever makes me feel sick to my stomach.'s interesting my dad does most fatal murder my dad my dad my dad actually
hosts the onion podcast which is in its um 50th season and he makes a million dollars a second
but that's my dad you know and yet you still try for baby yeah I'm trying
right now
we're trying
your legs have been
up in the air
this whole time
yeah
you're doing that
thing of like
trying to
you know
make it
get there
make it get there
make it swim
I saw Lacuz talking
oh my god
I know that when you
have sex
an animated sperm
swims
my love
up in the dark
oh my god
one of the great songs
a classic film
I've never seen that
I've never seen it either
well it has a disgusting
animation
it's really bad
insemination
I was gonna say
inception
of
inebrious
inception
what do they call
they call when you get pregnant
inebrious inception
not pejorative
no
Ned
do you and Ethan
oh no this is a crazy question not really are you guys married no you get pregnant and need brieus inception not pejorative no Ned do you and Ethan oh
no
this is a crazy question
not really
are you guys married
no
engaged
no
maybe someday
how long have you guys
been together
we've been together
for like three
and a half years
okay
not a little while
okay entering the baby year
you don't think you
want to get married
that's beautiful
it's very Joanie
yeah
blue
yeah that was all about not wanting to get married.
Yeah, I don't know.
I definitely want, I like love kids and I often see kids and I want them like hypothetically.
But if I actually check in with like the nitty gritty of what having a kid would be.
And I have nieces and I love hanging out with them and then giving them back.
Yes. And I think
that's enough. I told Sudi, I was like,
I will be like
the very fun uncle of your kid.
We were talking
about this the other night when we were all hanging out.
Me, Bone, and Sudi were watching TV and we were saying
like, I told that story about
how I watched this kid get knocked over by his dad
and dealing with that emotional situation is not something I'm wanting.
And it's like I feel like now like I'll be 29.
Like I think at some point if I really wanted kids, like I would have started thinking about it more.
And Sudi is someone who's always known she's wanted children.
It's like you either know deep down in your heart you want them or you don't.
Yeah.
There's that Nikki Glaser joke that I think is really funny where she was like everyone wants a kid but like you need to tell people that like yeah that
cute baby is just gonna be like a guy named Doug like what like like that's the reason why they're
why we exist is because our parents were like we want a kid we want a baby we want a baby but they
just you become a shitty adult but then you just just… You don't realize that… And then you got a dog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then like…
But then like most babies become like…
Dogs.
Dogs.
But isn't that real?
There's something real about that where it's like…
Right.
You're putting out a life into the world and then like that…
You're so responsible for the way that that person moves through it.
It's like crazy.
Or your baby could grow up to become Glenn Close.
Oh my God.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine?
That's like always the anti-abortion people though.
They're always like abortion.
What if that was Glenn Close?
What if that was Glenn Close?
What if your kid grew up to be Glenn Close?
It could win a Golden Globe for the wife.
Your kid could cure cancer or win a Globe.
I would love to have a son who is obsessed with me, though.
I thought you were going to say
with Glenn Close.
I was like, you want a gay son.
I would love a gay son.
I bet you would want a gay son.
No, I...
She said no.
No.
She wouldn't want a gay son.
No, this isn't the family stone.
This is really pejorative.
This is the family stone.
The family stone.
This is really pejorative.
Where I'm like,
I wouldn't want a gay son.
No, I would love any sort of child who was obsessed with me.
Yes.
Now, I truly think we would all make great parents.
I think I would.
Let's raise a child together, you guys.
I think I would be a good father, but it's, you know, it would just mean a lot of sacrifice.
Of course.
Yeah.
To get real.
But there is this thing, too, with Rachel's thing.
It's like, I don't know if it's fair for the kid for us to be like,
we are, we're fucking idiots.
And we make our money.
Your father and I.
Yeah, your father and I, we make a living, like,
just dicking around and being on podcasts.
Yeah, I'd be like…
Oh my God, is that what we're going to be making our living off of in 10 years?
Yeah, I'd be like, this is…
Yeah, you guys have no hope for the future.
Everything anyone has said has been like,
we're just going to be, you know, struggling forever.
Here, son.
Here's the most successful thing I did when I've been doing comedy.
It's called Hottest Female Up in Whoville I think about that song
every day
I think about that song
it's so good
thank you
it's so good
but I was just
thinking about the fact
that like having to
explain to my offspring
that that was like
what I was doing
but maybe they'd be proud
maybe I'd have
the coolest
most alternative kids
kids are obsessed with Grinch jokes.
Alt kids.
Alt kids.
I'm thinking about getting into like the alt kid world.
They've got their finger on the pulse.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the truth.
Kids are so cool now.
Like that's the thing is I feel like the generational divide between us and our kids is going to be like somehow
even further than our parents and us
because they will have grown up with the
internet and they're going to be so cool
and they're
going to make us feel
shitty about being so old
but meanwhile we were the ones
I think we're going to have social skills though
yeah sure
like isn't it crazy because it's like all our lives we thought we were the ones who were like…
The coolest and the most advanced.
Which is like how it happens with every generation.
But it's like in terms of technological advancements,
it's like I thought we were the ones who were like at the front line.
Surfing the web.
And also like acknowledging the fact that we aren't the people who are like up to date with like what's going on in technology right now.
You know what I mean?
Like or acknowledging you're out of touch in any way.
Like the fact that like we were at Seek Treatment's show last night and they have this whole bit like what's Post Malone.
Like I don't know what Post Malone is.
But you know who does?
Millions of kids.
I know.
And it's hard to think.
Rachel's famously very young.
I saw Into the Spider-Verse, so I know.
So did I, and I felt like a kid.
Like an alt-kid.
Like an alt-kid.
Be the alt-kid you want to be.
And like there are YouTube stars who make millions of dollars a year,
and I've never heard of them.
Yeah, that's crazy.
It's really spooky to be so old.
It is.
It absolutely is.
I've looked at life from far away.
Okay, that was haunting.
I loved it.
No, I really do.
I see what you're saying, though.
I think it's very true.
Did you find out what Post Malone is?
Yeah, he's a singer.
Yeah.
He's like a SoundCloud rapper.
I thought it was a bunch of people.
He's kind of freakish looking.
He has a lot of face tattoos.
Yeah.
He's spooky.
I liked his song that was in Into the Spider-Verse, though.
Oh.
What had it go?
It's Sunflower.
Oh.
It's the one that sounds like M.I.A.'s Paper Planes but is not.
That's fun.
Yeah, that sounds good.
And that is fun.
I loved Into the Spider-Verse.
I did too.
It was like cool.
It was really, really fucking beautiful.
I want to ask you guys a question. So there was a Rolling Stone article which was the number, like the top 100 most influential songs of 2000 to now.
Pop songs or like any genre.
What do you think was number one?
Like the number one most respect.
And it was like a Rolling Stone article.
And it was like they asked music journalists and musicians and everyone in the music industry.
Like they all voted.
And what do you think the number one song was?
Wait, and it was all pop?
It was pop, R&B, country.
It was all songs that have come out as major releases since the year 2000.
Was it an Outkast song?
Outkast was up there.
Was it Paper Planes?
Paper Planes was really up there too.
Paper Planes and there was, I think, Hey Ya were both in the top five.
Oh yeah, Hey Ya feels…
Was it Hit Me Baby One More Time? No were both in the top five. Oh yeah. Hey Ya feels was it Hit Me Baby
One More Time?
No.
It was Crazy in Love.
Oh wow.
And I said that actually
is a really good ball.
That makes sense.
It makes sense.
Because even the
I was like it's iconic.
Yeah.
I love that song.
Isn't it weird
that that was her
very first single
and yet it kind of
pretty much still
is her most iconic song?
I think it is.
Well, I mean, in terms of this article, they say it is.
And I think that if you were to announce Beyonce,
you would do that.
The alt kid would say Formation, which was also on the list.
They'd be like, I've never heard of Crazy in Love.
Yeah, they'd be like, who's Beyonce?
A really alt kid, a really alt annoying answer to that question
would be someone that's like irreplaceable.
Unconditional.
No one would say irreplaceable.
No, people would and they would do it to be fucking annoying.
They'd be like dark, dark horse.
A lot of people in this world are really annoying.
It's actually rule of question number 40.
A lot of people in this world are really annoying.
And they would say things like that.
They would.
I mean, maybe it's just like the time.
What year did Crazy in Love come out?
2003.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I feel really nostalgic for that post-9-11.
It was so great to be a 13-year-old.
Yeah.
Growing up during 9-11 was really cool.
It was so great to be a 13-year-old. Yeah. Growing up during 9-11 was really cool. It was so great to be a 13-year-old post-9-11.
Okay, let's go around.
Where were you when…
Oh, my…
You're in…
I've told my 9-11 story about how I demanded my mom take me to the fucking store to get the glitter album.
Oh, to buy glitter.
I told her.
I was like…
I thought she took me out of class early
because we were going to go get glitter.
Because you knew how excited I was
because I had been talking about it for weeks.
And the glitter album had come out that day
and I was like, okay.
They were like,
Matt Rogers for early dismissal.
And I was like, that's weird.
And my teacher was like, uh-huh.
And I went downstairs and I was like,
you took me out so we could go to glitter?
Get glitter?
This was before the Towers?
It was 9-11.
It was after both had hit.
And my mom came to get me out of school.
I've told this on the pod.
Oh, so this is the little hole I'm going to poke.
They didn't just dismiss all of you guys?
No, we were not dismissed.
They didn't do that at my school either.
No, that's not the way they handled it.
In Jersey and on Long Island?
And they also didn't tell the kids that it happened.
Yeah, we had the same thing.
And it was crazy.
We were released.
You got out early?
They got out early.
They didn't tell us, but they were like, everyone go home.
I'm so sick.
You got to go home?
Dude.
But I found out because I went upstairs.
I had band class and I left my trumpet in my homeroom.
And so I go up and then the TV was on. No one was in the room
but it was people running away from
the second
tower being hit and then I just was
like, oh my god, something is
happening. Yeah. Oh my god. They did
not tell us. That was like a controversial
thing that people were talking about in
the weeks afterwards. Whether or not
they should have let everyone know but the fact of the
matter is that they didn't want to
say anything
over the loudspeaker
because
honestly
I was from Long Island
and it's very possible
that someone could have
had someone that worked there
you know what I mean
because then
you panic
the kids
you know what I mean
I think that is
the right thing to do
I think it was the right call
that is true
yeah they didn't tell us
but then everyone was like
I heard because we were like on then everyone was like, I heard –
because we were on lockdown.
Yeah, there was that.
And they were like, I heard that there's a dead body in the dumpster outside of school.
And then everyone was gossiping about that.
So then when we all found out what really was happening, I was like,
that's so shitty that everybody was getting excited about a dead body outside the school.
And really it was so much worse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry that I brought this.
I can't believe we're talking about 9-11
on Lost Cultures.
This feels actually like I'm in hell.
Well, it is time for I Don't Think So, Honey.
I Don't Think So, Honey.
And then they're going to give us the finale.
Oh my God.
So I Don't Think So,. And then we… Oh, and then they're going to give us the finale. Oh, my God. So, I Don't Think So Honey is our little segment that we do
to take one minute to rant against something in pop culture that we hate.
And Lost Culture Recess is going on tour with I Don't Think So Honey.
Tickets are on sale now online.
You can go to my website under the shows page
and also the Lost Culture Recess page page mattrodgerscomedy.com
to get tickets to
our shows
because we do
not have a
website
and that's cool
and that's cool
very niche
very niche
it's really niche
of us to not have a website
or a place where you can
essentially go to
find us
find us
okay I actually have a thing
I could do
okay this is Matt Rogers'
I don't think so honey
as time starts now
I don't think so honey that you can't eat before you go to bed.
That's when it feels the best and that's when I'm the hungriest.
I don't know about you, but I wake up at roughly 2.30 p.m. every day
and I am not hungry, honey.
So that means my lunch happens at about 7.
And then am I eating dinner at 11.30 p.m. roughly
and that is also when I smoke.
So I don't think so honey
that smoking makes you so hungry and i don't think so honey the whole situation because
i feel that that's when it feels the best to be full is when you can eat a lot and then lay down
in your little bed and make yourself so warm and feeling warm and full are a great combination and
also high so this is what three things I like to be together.
But now guess what is turning on me?
My body.
So I have been in the gym and unfortunately, it is incredibly difficult to lose that little tiny moment in the belly because I have no impulse control and I don't know what to do.
I don't think so, honey, that my body is not 18.
And that's one minute.
Wow. That really took a turn. That was a journey.
Oh my god. I'm just saying it's fucked up that you can't eat before you go to bed.
Or that you can, but it's not good for you.
Right. It sucks that like the actual
best thing to do for your body is like stop eating
at 7 because the most luxurious
time to eat is like midnight. And you know
many places in Europe, they eat their
cena very late at night.
Their cena.
So Spain?
La cena.
La cena.
Well, in Spain,
we were taught that culturally
they have like a large dinner
at like 10 p.m.
Yeah.
I just went to Spain this year,
last year,
and we would make reservations
at like 8.30
being like,
we're very European
and then get there
and the restaurant would be empty.
Be no one.
Because the culture is to eat very late. It's like at five o' European, and then get there, and the restaurant will be empty. Be no one. Because people eat really late.
Because the culture is to eat very late.
It's like at 5 o'clock, the restaurants are like all German tourists, and then at like
8, it's all Americans.
I mean, again, that's so funny.
When are they going to get the national newsflash that that's not good for them?
I don't know.
Maybe their bodies are just like evolved.
Have you been eating?
I've been eating late at night on Whole30.
I've been trying not to.
You know what was a real kicker for me was when we.
No, what are you going to say?
Was when we postmate.
We had.
Oh no.
Was when we postmated McDonald's to the duplex at one in the morning.
I ate some of that.
That was the best.
That was my best idea ever. Why were you at the duplex at one in the morning. I ate some of that. That was the best, that was my best idea ever.
Why were you at the duplex
at one in the morning?
We were at your show.
We were at Have You Heard of Christmas
and then we were like,
I haven't eaten dinner.
Oh yeah,
and then you guys left
that bag of McDonald's
up in the duplex,
you fucking freaks.
Oh no,
that was mean.
And I threw it out.
Did more people look sad?
The drag queen was making fun of it. Fat bitch. Fat bitch. Fat bitch. Her show was me. And I threw it out. Did more people look stuck? The drag queen was making fun of it.
Fat bitch.
Fat bitch.
Fat bitch.
Her show was here.
The drag queen was like,
her name was Fat Bitch.
No, her show was Fat Bitch.
Her show was called Fat Bitch.
Oh, I thought she was called Fat Bitch.
That's from 30 Rock.
Fat Bitch?
That was one of Tracy Jordan's movies.
Fat Bitch.
Fat Bitch.
He played a dog.
Well, we got stuck in a drag show,
and then I left really fast,
and I did leave the McDonald's there,
and I apologize.
And I was left to deal with the bags.
It was such a good McDonald's.
It was just a bag full of my dignity.
I just want to eat McDonald's again.
Well, last time I did Lost Cult,
we were eating chicken McDonald's.
Yeah, honestly, we ate the whole episode long,
and I famously hate what we eat on air because Bo and Yang chomps and slumps Last time I did Lost Colch, we were eating chicken McDonald's. Honestly, we ate the whole episode long,
and I famously hate what we eat on air because Bowen Yang chomps and slomps right into the mic.
Oh, my God.
Wait, are chicken nuggets Whole30?
There's absolutely no way.
Oh, my God.
They're made of, like, garbage.
Which is Whole30.
If underwear is Whole30, so is garbage.
Shut the fuck up.
Okay, well, if you say so.
It's time for Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey.
Okay.
Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey on this episode with the friends who folk.
His time starts now.
I Don't Think So, Honey lip balm.
Lip balm, you are trash.
And it should just be the same across the fucking board,
and yet we have all these different types of lip balm.
Give me Burt's Bees.
That should be the one and the only.
I don't need all this other chapstick medicated, chapstick high intensity moisture.
Bitch, it is all a graft for marketing.
And I see it, bitch.
Big lip balm, I am going to destroy you.
This year in 2019, I am taking down big lip balm.
I am releasing my own line of lip balm and it is unbranded.
It's just one kind of lip balm.
There's no variety.
It's the one that works for everybody because all lips are the same.
Say it with me.
All lips are the same.
All lips are the same.
All lips are the same.
Stop.
Now, if you are going, if I will start,
I will actually start
a GoFundMe
to make a new lip balm
that is the
Bo and Yang lip balm.
And I,
I bet,
you can bet
your ass
that I will have
a lip balm
this year.
I think that you should
have the Bo and Yang lip balm
and I'm gonna have
my fragrance
Gay Son
by Matt Adler.
No,
Gay Son, and then, don't you have like an ad for this?
Yeah, it's going to be an ad for my fragrance, Gay Son.
Gay Son, I love that.
Gay Son.
You don't understand him, but you can smell like him.
What is the scent?
It smells like weed and cum.
Oh my God.
Gay Son, I love that. Okay, that was fabulous. That was fabulous. I don't know, though. Oh my god. Gay son.
I love that.
Okay.
That was fabulous.
Fabulous. I don't know though.
I feel like I see you use lip balm.
But that's also probably why you feel so close to it.
I love lip balm.
I think the marketing around it is insane.
And there shouldn't be so many different varieties when all lips are the same.
Okay.
This is…
Okay.
We're going to go with Rachel. Okay. And then we're going to end with Ned. I thought a lot about this. This is Rachel Win's, we're gonna, we're gonna go with Rachel.
Okay.
And then we're gonna end with Ned.
I've thought a lot about this.
This is Rachel Winitsky's
I Don't Think So Honey.
Her time starts now.
Okay.
I Don't Think So Honey
stools.
Stools are like
the evil bitch
step cousin
of chairs.
Yes.
Which are a far superior
genre of sitting furniture. Which are a far superior genre of sitting
furniture. I
have a big gifted and
talented ass
and it simply does
not fit on a stool.
Is not comfortable there.
Ten minutes into sitting on a stool, my ass
is going, no thank you.
I don't think so.
I love couches, sofas,as chest lounge fainting couch all yes
stools no you know what my ass makes stools stools is another word for shit for me shit
is a yes but unfortunately stools no stools are terrorism
I'll say it now
making a fat bitch sound
stools is
terrible
that's more than enough
gifted and talented ass
it's big
listen
you are incredibly fecal
and I think that
fecal woman
you have a lot
to discuss
that was actually a line
in Night Soap
you vile
fecal woman
I do feel that way
I love that
well that's good
that you feel this way
thank you
to be clear for everyone
listening though
if anyone ever
overheard me shitting
I would be fucking
mortified
oh
if you ever want to get over someone,
listen to them poop.
Oh my god, yeah.
If you ever want to get over a crush,
just realize that they have
poops.
They have poops.
And you're not going to want to eat their butt anymore after that.
Yeah.
Because I think about eating all the butts I see.
I think about eating every yes I want to taste
I think about
boys I want to eat their butt
and I can't believe
that I don't
now your issue
with stools
is that they don't have backs
is that the main thing
they don't have backs
which is so uncomfortable
yeah that
go off queen
I love to go off
on stools
I'm five foot eight
if my feet
don't have anywhere
to go on a stool
your stool too tall
that drag her
insane
the tall stools are the craziest.
There's no practical reason.
And I slouch so badly.
And there's just no feasible way to not slouch on a stool.
Like it's so much effort to sit up straight on a stool that doesn't have a back.
And then if your stool does have a back, I'm like, fuck you.
Why don't you just make a chair?
Oh my God.
People who sit up straight on stools are insane.
They're cops.
They're cops. They're cops.
They're cops.
They are.
Thank you.
They're narcs.
Rachel, that was real important what you did.
That was really important.
I'm just trying to live my life in a way that is meaningful.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So now this is Ned's I Don't Think So Honey debut.
Am I allowed to read?
Yes.
Yes.
I Don't Think So Honey.
Yes.
Okay.
I've never done that.
That's very inebriating.
This is Ned's.
I'm ready.
Very sensitive.
This is Ned's debut I don't think so honey
his time starts now
I don't think so honey
the masked singer
what is it
why does it exist
you're hiding someone
in a Liberace
animal costume
and then once they
take off the costume
and reveal their identity
I still don't know
who the fuck they are
no one wanted to know
what it would feel like
if Donnie Darko
could sing
Living La Vida Loca
are we that starved for ways to distract ourselves from the slow death of civilization No one wanted to know what it would feel like if Donnie Darko could sing Living La Vida Loca.
Are we that starved for ways to distract ourselves from the slow death of civilization that we have to pour millions of dollars into a kinky parlor game for struggling celebrities?
Jenny McCarthy is an anti-vaxxer.
Nick Cannon said he is proud of how Kevin Hart handled the Oscars controversy.
Robin Thicke made blurred lines.
How did this happen?
The Masked Singer can only have been created by people who are deeply sexually unfulfilled.
The people who created The Masked Singer
are furries resisting their kink
and it's going to ruin their lives.
I don't think so, honey.
The Masked Singer,
I will probably watch it at some point
and enjoy it taken in by the thrill of my parade.
I will wait out the apocalypse
watching Mr. Bean emerge
from an Energizer bunny costume.
That's what I meant.
Very good, man.
Very good.
Very good.
We just watched The Masked Singer
last night for the first time.
How was it?
And we discussed it
on another episode.
I think I'm going to love it, actually.
It actually is the dumbest.
It's actually bad.
You want to like it
for how bad it is, but...
I kind of loved it, though.
Rachel, you fucking idiot
I very famously love bad taste
I mean you are a trash queen and I have bad
taste too and I'm telling you like
even I couldn't get enough of this
I liked it but I was also like
this genuinely feels like I wish
that they unmasked the singer and then
murdered them in front of an audience
because that feels like what this is
it feels on game it feels like the this is. It feels on game.
It does.
It feels like the Hunger Games,
so why not go the extra mile?
Exactly.
Like, I want to see the B-lister
get brutally murdered.
The judges are insane.
I can't believe Robin Thicke is on the show.
And Jenny McCarthy.
It's so nuts.
Yeah, Jenny McCarthy.
She's right off the slopes.
We're recording this in January.
But yeah, I mean, like, maybe by next month,
it'll feel like it'll get to a different cultural place.
But like right now, it feels truly insane.
The way they guess is so funny, too,
because they're like, oh, I'm sensing like Beyonce.
And it's like, you think she's here?
Yeah.
She's busy.
Who did they guess last night where I was like,
they're not...
Oh.
Someone was like,
it's Jimmy Buffett.
I know it.
And like,
it's like,
he just sang for us
and it's like,
you know that's not Jimmy Buffett.
If it was Jimmy Buffett,
I would love the mask.
Like,
if it was people like Jimmy Buffett,
it'd be amazing.
Joni Mitchell.
Oh my God.
If it was Joni...
I would die.
I would die.
I would die.
They do this whole bit with clues where they give out clues.
Yeah.
It's a package.
We think one of them is Latoya Jackson.
And I think one of them is Ricky Lake.
The alien.
Ricky Lake is one of them.
Wait, I was also reading.
I'm excited about Ricky Lake.
I was reading rumors
that one of them was Tori Spelling.
Yes.
Which made a lot of sense to me.
See, we love this show.
You're right, we do.
We're going to be talking about it, though.
It will be a topic of conversation.
It's going to be water cooler talk for a few months.
And it's going to be in textbooks someday as the Franz Ferdinand
assassination of
World War III. Well, they're dressed like
Franz Ferdinand. I just can't believe the costumes.
The costumes are insane.
I think they're absolutely stunning.
There's one rumor that...
They're kind of Cirque du Soleil.
They are.
They're good.
There's a rumor that Margaret Cho is one of them.
What?
No.
It's like the pink poodle.
Singing?
Singing.
So, you know, who knows?
She does sing.
She sings.
Wow.
Wow.
I mean, she's got...
She's booking work, though.
Yeah, she's booked.
Again, it's on the masked singer. And it she's booked. Again, it's on the Masked Singer.
And it's on the Masked Singer.
She's on high maintenance.
She's got a thing coming out.
She's out there working.
She's working.
I mean, all this being said,
I'd absolutely love to write a packet
and get staffed on the Masked Singer.
Oh, yeah.
Season two.
That'd be a lot for writers to do on that show.
Yeah.
Well, there we go.
We've had all of
I Don't Think So Honeys
we've discussed The Masked Singer
we've had so much culture
we found out Ned's
um
culture
and it's time
and we've heard
three songs
including one world debut
which is what they call
a song the first time
I love it
that you do it on a podcast
the first time you do a song
on a podcast
is a world debut
we've created New Words
which is something that we do
at Las Culturistas
Inebrius is now on the cultural lexicon yes world debut. We've created new words, which is something that we do at Las Culturistas. Inebrius is now
on the cultural lexicon. It is.
And we've created many, many
cultural moments and new rules. And now
I think that we are left with no choice
but to hear one more song from
the friends who folk. But before we get into this,
when are you guys performing?
What the hell's going on?
So we try
to do a roughly monthly show
at Union Hall in New York City, baby.
Yes.
I believe we have a show.
The next show after this airs will be March 7th
at 8 p.m.
Yes.
At Union Hall.
And we also do have an album and an Instagram.
We're trying to get like more.
Yeah, we're trying to be less on stage,
more on the internet.
Yes, that's good.
Just pictures.
That's good.
Yeah.
Yeah, you should be more pictures.
Yeah, 2019 is all about pictures.
Yeah, I agree.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, tell us a little bit about this song
and then take us into it.
So this song is about being in love.
Making promises to someone you love.
Thank you.
I haven't been the same since I met you.
And I forget my own name when I am with you
And I will love you till I die
And when I die
I have a very simple request
Make sure the minions do a dance at my funeral
Make sure the minions do a dance at my funeral Make sure the minions do a dance at my funeral
Make sure the minions do a dance at my funeral
That would be really cool
I will never leave your side
Through thick and thin until I die
And when I'm lying on a bed of death
I'll squeeze your hand and with my dying breath,
remind you of what I always wanted.
Insist that the minions do a dance at my funeral.
Insist that the minions do a dance at my funeral.
And if they refuse, say it is my funeral.
And that will be really cool
People tell me the minions are
Computer animated characters in a show
But I know that the minions are actual minions
The dance can be super simple
I don't want the minions to have to learn choreo.
It's mostly just arm stuff.
A lawyer put this in my will.
They should have one rehearsal.
Please have the minions do a dance at my funeral.
The minions from the movie Minions should be at my funeral.
Please have the minions do a dance at my funeral. The minions from the movie Minions should be at my funeral. Please have
the minions do a dance at my funeral. That would be really cool. Make sure the minions
do a dance at my funeral make sure the minions
do a dance
at my funeral
I've been writing a dance
make sure the minions
do a dance
at my funeral
it's about bananas
make sure the minions
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On Thanksgiving Day 1999,
five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or stay with his relatives in Miami.
Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
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Hey,
I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of on purpose.
My latest episode is with jelly roll.
This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story
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