Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Lalu Baba" (w/ Sabrina Jalees)

Episode Date: November 21, 2018

In this lalu episode, Matt and Bowen talk to Sabrina Jalees (Search Party) about the amazing saga that led up to the birth of her son Wolfie, closeted gay childhood fantasies, spontinuity, the first p...erson to be virally bullied, stunt doubles, and more!---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!LAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:09 Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And something incredible just happened. What was it? Where literally every single one of our 100 plus episodes, we start the episode the same way. Bowen goes, three, two, one. We say, ding dong.
Starting point is 00:03:19 He went, three, two, one. And I said, three, two, one. I forgot our sign in. But I kind of was into it. I liked the little spice. You like the spontane two, one. And I said, three, two, one. I forgot our sign in. But I kind of was into it. I was, I liked the little spice. You like the spontaneity, honey. Can I tell you something? Tell me.
Starting point is 00:03:32 This girl in high school. Lay it on me. Leilani. I forgot her last name. She's very sweet. But one time she posted on my MySpace. Bowen, I love your spontaneity. Spontaneity!
Starting point is 00:03:46 Oh my god. And it ruined the word for me because now I think the word is actually spontaneity. I'll correct someone. I'll be like, it's actually spontaneity. And then they're like, no, it's not. I love spontaneity. Actually, no, it's the stupidest word. It's rule of culture number nine. It's spontaneity. I'm not repeating that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 We have to. Okay, go. It's spontaneity and also it's kind of like I declare go it is it's spontaneity and also it's kind of like i i declare that this is not a word but you say it's a word tragical tragical no it is tragic it's not tragical i think tragical is a word look it up i heard this at one time talk about this tragedy and she was like it's so tragic it's so tragic but she kept repeating it like she was like it's tragical and like it really was tragic but the fact that she kept calling it tragical i was like it's you're making it no no it's a great way to add levity to like a funeral totally you know it's 100% get everybody on the same page yeah and like say something wrong
Starting point is 00:04:39 bitch that's saying a word wrong and saying a word who the fuck is this talking? I came from nowhere, but I'm here to say certain comments about a word you say. Oh my god. This poet, this rhythmical girl. I'd also like to add to Leilani, I hope she listening and correcting she.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yes! I hope Leilani has been using that word without correction until this episode of Las Coch wait hold on who is this who is she she's truly like the coolest
Starting point is 00:05:15 the coolest one of the coolest stars in the galaxy and many cool stars in the galaxy yeah wait why are you talking about the other cool stars in the galaxy yeah wait why are you talking about the other cool stars
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Starting point is 00:05:38 the quarter hour space I don't want to do stand up for longer than 15 minutes I agree yes and gotta be honest
Starting point is 00:05:44 I don't want to see it for longer than 15 minutes literally give agree. Yes. And gotta be honest, I don't want to see it for longer than 15 minutes. Literally, give me seven minutes in a year, I'll kill it. I'll kill it. You know I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:05:50 make my seven minutes count. It's gonna be the eighth hour of space. It's gonna be huge. Write a first search party. Write a first search party. If you're searching for a good show.
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Starting point is 00:06:19 and she's the host of I got an acting part on it too. Oh, really? Yeah, and it involves stunts and I'm an acting part on it too oh really? yeah and it involves stunts and I'm so excited it involves stunts? yes we have to talk about stunt people
Starting point is 00:06:30 just as a little industry I would love to I have like really good just I had one good moment with a lady named Mary Albee who taught me a lot of lessons and she was a stunt person oh my god her last name was Albee
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Starting point is 00:07:14 hello everybody it's nice to be here yes I feel that I'm supported if I do something like this in this type of room support and you know why we support
Starting point is 00:07:24 is because everyone in this room, including producer Emma, is part of the LGBTQ plus community. It's in the alphabet. Honey. Honey. We're part of the LGBTQ plus community and it is a community in which you choose your own family. This is huge. This is historic. We have our first queer hot producer.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Emma. It's fabulous. Wait. Did you kick someone out for Emma? No, no, no. He has left And gone to LA But then
Starting point is 00:07:47 What a sad way to say Someone died Someone died But then Emma Did to me We were left In very capable hands With Emma
Starting point is 00:07:53 So we're so excited To have her Anyway She carried me up the stairs Carried Wow That's actually kind of Pathetic for you
Starting point is 00:08:01 For me Yeah because Why couldn't you Walk up by yourself I fainted You know I faint before a podcast. God, this is like, I was like walking over here and thinking, should I say it? Because it makes me cooler if I don't say it.
Starting point is 00:08:13 You gotta say it. But there were good celebs at the party. Like who? Like who? Should I say it? Yeah. I don't know. Who are they?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Okay, just like casually. And by the way, I wasn't like, I wasn't thinking about it. But obviously everyone from Search Party said that. Yeah, all those celebs. Ali, John Reynolds, who's going to shoot a thing with Jessica Williams. I heard about this. They're going to go to England for six months to shoot it. Six months?
Starting point is 00:08:39 Six months in England. No way. Six months in England. And then Jessica is going to shoot another movie after that. She's just in England forever And then Jessica is gonna shoot another movie after that. She's just in England forever now. Jessica is queen. She's totally queen. But then Ellen Page casually there. With her best friend that she does.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yes. But I didn't talk to everybody. But anyway. And then I met a devil with a full red face and I was like it's so wild that I'll never know what you look like in real life. That person was Tessa thompson oh my god oh my god yes i love that that she just like had also i was like at a good fucking weird halloween a good weird halloween costume that person was tessa thompson that person was tessa thompson who else i mean probably there
Starting point is 00:09:21 was like directors speaking in accents it was just like amazing i just like can i tell you what my instinct was that who she'd be at the party i don't know why i think this person is super cool lately but i know they're in brooklyn and i felt like maybe they could have been at this party fucking anne hathaway i was like i bet anne hathaway was at the party she wasn't is anne hathaway's brother still around New York doing mics? Because when I was here Oh, her gay brother? I don't He wasn't out when I saw him There's one gay brother
Starting point is 00:09:49 And then maybe there's another comedy brother There was a brother that was doing mics And he would casually say my sister And his last name was Hathaway And everybody knew that his sister was Anne Hathaway And it was like the biggest uphill battle for him To talk about literally anything other than Anne Hathaway It's just like all I want to know Yeah I sometimes think about that It's like the biggest uphill battle for him to talk about literally anything other than Anne Hathaway. It's just like, all I want to know.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah. I sometimes think about that. It's like the siblings of incredibly famous people. It's like, how do you get around, especially when your name is something like Hathaway. And I would imagine that he resembles her. If you could pick one person to be at the party, who would you pick? Oh, great question. With the stakes being zero, because it's a party in the
Starting point is 00:10:26 past that you were in the past that we were we were supposed to be there and then we got i think there's honestly over the past 24 hours there's been tons of like uh personal failings personal we failed to make it to the party charles failed to make it to this podcast i was very late to this the studio as well um if i had to pick one person, oh my God, it would have been Ellen Burstyn. I wanted Ellen Burstyn to be there. I would have loved if Monica Lewinsky was at the party.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yes. I was like, I'm going to hold her hand, flick her in the eyes, and say, I am apologizing on behalf of this entire nation. I hope at least three people
Starting point is 00:11:00 say that to her every day. I think probably- And I wonder what- They do. Was it this year that people shifted oh when did people shift it was it was around the election it was around 2016 people been done shifted about monica lewinsky i think because i think we all like in the past three or four years like it was felt bad it was pre-me too even where everyone was like oh shit like we did her wrong
Starting point is 00:11:23 her ted talk was unreal her ted talk was great her ted talk i didn't but i feel like i know what she said and i like it there you go it was about like online bullying and she considers herself the first virally bullied person which she may be correct about um okay we're erasing joan of arc there was no incident there was there was there was she was viral There was no incident. There was, there was, there was, she was viral. She was virally bullied?
Starting point is 00:11:49 She was virally bullied. Someone gave her a virus. What are you talking about? I think, I think she, no, you're right. I think Monica Lewinsky is maybe the first person.
Starting point is 00:11:58 But I feel like she is, she is erasing some other thing. We need Monica Lewinsky on the dollar bill. I feel like Leilani, if you would have done what you needed to do back in the day. Look, I think. I feel like Leilani if you would have done what you needed to do
Starting point is 00:12:05 back in the day. Look, I think Leilani, Leilani was this like cute half Asian, half white, like whatever, genetically.
Starting point is 00:12:13 If she's cute, she's making that name good and cute. Leilani, I feel like, I feel like Leilani is, yeah, some like R&B singer.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Leilani is something you name your kid because you think I'm going to give them an interesting name and oops, you gave them like the most superior, like ridiculous name. You don't like it?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Leilani? No. Leilani. No, no thanks to Leilani. I mean, it probably means something cool in a culture, you dumb bitch. Okay, Leilani's a name where you're like drunk and Asian, spitting rice downstairs downstairs and it's the noise it makes when the chopstick hits your head. Leilani. It means religious flower.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It means religious flower. If it's religious flower, then I'm back to your side. I'm just saying. Keep your religious flowers away from me. Religious flower. Leilani gives me Kahlua. Do you think that saying blessing gives me Kahlua? It gives me. Leilani gives me Kahlua. Do you think that saying blessing gives me Kahlua? It gives me like Leilani.
Starting point is 00:13:09 It's like, you know, I don't know. It's in a bottle. What are you saying about blessing? Oh, I always want to say blessed and blessing, but I don't want anyone to think I'm religious. It's a come for you. That's my... I think this is a struggle. It's a true struggle because there's nothing that replaces it how do we
Starting point is 00:13:25 dissociate dissociate you're gonna come for Miss Leilani about spontaneity and you're talking about how do we dissociate bitch bitch you are a bitch how do we dissociate like religious
Starting point is 00:13:42 words from religion I want to be able to say alms without like any sort of how do we dissociate like religious words from religion I think we I think that I want to be able to say alms without like any sort of alms what's that like donations
Starting point is 00:13:50 like give alms I want to be able to say like use that in everyday conversation without evoking religious imagery I agree I think that we
Starting point is 00:13:57 I just want to collect some alms without being pinned as a Christian yeah absolutely I also think you remember the Christina Aguilera song blessed yes for everything pin as a Christian. Yeah. Absolutely. I also think,
Starting point is 00:14:06 you remember the Christina Aguilera song? Blessed. Yes. For everything you've given me. I think we can't sing that anymore or else the right will come. The religious right. We'll say we're appropriating. We'll say this is us
Starting point is 00:14:16 and I'll say no, no, no. No, no, no. I just feel like hashtag blessed has now become more associated with the millennial culture. Yes. I guess hashtag blessed has now become more associated with the millennial culture yes i guess hashtag blessed is the is like the way to disassociate but then you're like you know part of something that's hashtag annoying old hashtag so yesterday so yesterday wait but it's true like whenever someone receives an award and they say i'm so blessed i look around the room and people roll
Starting point is 00:14:44 their eyes and i'm like maybe they just i look around the room and people roll their eyes and i'm like maybe they just couldn't find the non-religious one but it is like there's nothing like truly when i hold my little baby son when i'm like under the big tree in our backyard i say but i also think maybe maybe it's not bad maybe that's not bad no maybe then the blessing that it is obviously attached to something but then let's just maybe shift god into the universe like you know like that do that thing where it's like you know it's crystals it's love it's trees it could be anything or i think that people sometimes choose to say um the universe gave me this instead of like thank God. And also I feel like it's all kooky. It's all kooky.
Starting point is 00:15:25 It's all kooky. There is some like linguistic thing where it's like you have the word, you have the concept and it doesn't mean something. It doesn't sound kooky, but it still means that same thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But when you say I thank the universe, you are thanking quote unquote God. I think the world is fun, right? I thank the world. I think the world is fun, right? I think the world. I think the world. I've got a good replacement for an awkward thing that you can't say the R word.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You can't be like, oh my God, they're being so... Right? You can't do that. You can't. It's an Urdu replacement. My father's Pakistani, so it's an Urdu replacement.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's lalu. Lalu. Oh my God, what a lalu. And then what does it mean in Urdu literally? It's like, it doesn oh my god and then what does it mean what does it mean in urdu literally it's like it's it doesn't i don't think that it means it just means like someone it was too soon to bring her back but she was giving us kalua when a girl gives you kalua you invite her back in the room prematurely.
Starting point is 00:16:29 There was a character named Kahlua in Bridesmaids, and I thought it was the funniest name. The other girl that worked at the jewelry store that Kristen Wiig worked at, she was like, look at Kahlua. Look how she stands. I'm like, that girl is Kahlua. My favorite thing to do in writing a script is give wacky names. Yeah, just like for no reason, not explained. It's just Isadora.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's who it is. Isadora. Kalua is also the name of Rachel Dratch's character in the America's Next Top Model sketch. Kalua, yes. That James Anderson wrote. And James Anderson is the master of names. Tia Mornings. Tia Mornings.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Beginnings Chang. I love Tia Mornings. Tia Mornings, truly. I don. Beginnings Chang. I love Tia Mornings. Tia Mornings, truly. I don't know it. It's very dumb. I don't know it. It's an old sketch. Fun other proud names.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Is it Isadora? Isadora. Isadora. Love that. Love that. Who came up with Wolfie? Shauna had a dream eight years ago and woke up and she's, you know, like hyper mystical lady. Yes. uh she's like
Starting point is 00:17:27 our kid's name is gonna be wolfie full name wolfie wolfie yeah i love that and uh yeah and i also had been like meditating on that name since i was young because i always had a crush on jennifer love hewitt but then on party of five scott wolf would have sex with her so i did the thing i don't do you guys do that where you like have a crush on the guy that's having sex the girl that's having sex with the guy that oftentimes yes so i was like i love scott wolf when he's kissing her i love to kiss him scott wolf actually is so hot though. And we've forgotten. I just bumped into him in an airport. And you were like, I used to rub it confusedly to you, sir.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I used to not touch myself cause I said I was busy but thought about you with a kiss. But I wanted the boobs of love. The boobs of love. I would really just picture her hugging I would have fantasies of like we would go to Cancun the specific one fantasy
Starting point is 00:18:30 that I would just be like and play play on the VHS and the ribbons would turn and we would be laying by the pool and you know people would come and recognize her and talk to her but we would not have time for them cute boys would hit on us but we would be too busy with our friendship and oh we're still still platonic at
Starting point is 00:18:48 this point yeah still i was in my mind i was like it just would be the friendship of a lifetime but down to like her holding i would picture her holding me in the way her breasts would feel against my body yeah and i was just like we would be buddies yeah we would be buddies. Yeah, we would be friends. I used to do the same. Sometimes I would. It's true. Especially at that age, that young age where you're like, you don't get to just, I mean, you can't just go out and be a little hoe like I am often now. The touch of another was just such a rare thing.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So I would just remember I would hug my male friends and be like, oh. The touch of another. The Touch of Another. The Touch of Another. Oh, my God. That's another good title. Yeah, The Touch of Another. There should just be. Slay.
Starting point is 00:19:31 There should just be gay schools, right? Like, schools where, like, schools were just queer. It's all queer schools where culturally it's fine to just, like, everyone at the dance is. There would be so much. Hold on. Emphasis on sex. Hold on now. There would be so much emphasis on sex. I mean, I guess. You're saying you want segregation.
Starting point is 00:19:49 A little bit, yeah. You want sexual segregation. I want separate but equal. I think when it comes to queer folks, it should be like, because isn't this the thing where our growth is, at least my sexual growth is stunted and maybe it's what you'reunted and it's maybe what it's
Starting point is 00:20:05 what you're saying where it's like if you just had that access at an earlier age yeah you feel like you're you're like playing out high school loves yeah just maybe in a way yeah but also just you're getting you're getting it's to scale it's to like it's separate but equal it's like you're you're getting well i don't know like if your is gay, do you want them to go to a school of only gay people? No. Because I think diversity, mixing it up,
Starting point is 00:20:29 is like the key to the goody, goody, goody. There you go. Okay, fine, fine. I'm just... I'm having this little thought experiment in my head about like what that would look like.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Get this though. What? It is different nowadays because my friend is a middle school health teacher. Yeah. She texted me the other day and she said that her...
Starting point is 00:20:44 One of her students, like low key came out to her in a project. Love that. And she went to go speak to his counselor and the counselor was like, oh, it's good that he's saying that because like he wasn't there like last year when apparently he brought up some things about potentially maybe thinking about self harm and things like that.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So I think that, but I feel like seventh grade is fucking early. Yeah, because even kids that like will eventually identify as straight don't really know what they're, the issue or like one of the big things about realizing you're gay is like, we all, obviously you,
Starting point is 00:21:21 everybody listening to this knows this, but like everything's fluid. We all land somewhere and everybody is learning that and people are learning like straight identifying people are learning what they like in a partner way late too because we're all marketed these weird ass like it's a barbie it's a ken it's a lumberjack and man it's a thing a little doodle it's the perfect little guy frosty tips tips, little abs in the little, little. It's like, you know, these like catchphrase things that you like see that you're like, that's the way I will do.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Like even just the way I placed myself as Scott Wolf to love Jennifer Love Hewitt. It's like, it's all just like these binary. Voxes, thinner is better. It's pretty hurts. It's very pretty hurts um it pretty hurts even like fucking matt was just lamenting anthony popping up on his feet it's like well that is something that is being fed to you in this way anthony popped up on my feet and every time anthony from gray pops up on my feet i literally i get so angry at my own penis because i'm like stop it like it's just like it every time it gets me he's so fucking hot. He's so hot.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And every time. He's Canadian, too. So hot. I'm Canadian. Canadian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canadian? Canadian?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Canadian. We didn't talk about this in Montreal. Montreal? You're Toronto. I'm Montreal. Oh, yeah. Cool. I was just in Toronto and it was fun as fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Toronto's such a good city. Toronto's a great city. I mean, that's where we're going to run away to if the things happen. That's the. Okay. But we won't run away. We'll try to make everything better, obviously. Of course. Of course. We'll stay and's where we're going to run away to if the things happen. But we won't run away. We'll try to make everything better, obviously. But like, if we have to run away. I thought about
Starting point is 00:22:49 Toronto as a place to run away. I mean, oh, wait till you see Vancouver, baby. We're going to Vancouver next year. But like, don't you think that Toronto's where you live? Where I live? I actually see myself more in Montreal. Toronto feels a little too Midwest, right? Really? I'm not saying that pejoratively. Oh my Really? I'm not saying that pejoratively.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Oh my god. I'm not saying that pejoratively. I don't even know what pejorative is. I'm not saying that in a negative way. I'm saying like, actually no, Toronto is actually great because Niagara Falls is right there. She's out. She is leaving, honey. She's putting on her big ass... Who will do the
Starting point is 00:23:21 jingles? She's putting her boots on and fucking going. She's gonna get that is a scar get out of here it's a boot with a top that has a scar on it guys no wait
Starting point is 00:23:31 I don't I think I'm more I'm just I mean everybody loves their hometown that's what it is some people
Starting point is 00:23:37 it's a spectrum you fall somewhere between Montreal and Toronto it's a spectrum you know my first love with Montreal oh I already told you
Starting point is 00:23:43 this in Montreal and I don't want to talk about it but I do that I like my first girlfriend was Montreal oh I already told you this in Montreal and I don't want to talk about it but I do that I like my first girlfriend was in Montreal yeah and I would like
Starting point is 00:23:49 take a greyhound from Toronto to Montreal no one would know I would be secretly gay in Montreal and then hoop earrings
Starting point is 00:23:55 back in Toronto the hoop earrings with a marker actually the hoop earrings carried into the first zone of me being gay I was like wearing mini skirts
Starting point is 00:24:02 hoop earrings and had butcher girlfriend and something didn't feel right. Butcher girlfriend? A butch girlfriend. Yeah, like I was in the back of the motorcycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Feeling like I just want to drive it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:26:09 yet but we were very gagged when it came it came in such a nice box too it was also laid out i'm truly truly upset that it's so cold in new york right now because all i want to do is wear this denim jacket i'm really obsessed with it i've never had a denim jacket you guys and so now i have one anyway i'm excited and you can be excited too if you go to everlane.com slash ding dong and plus you'll get free shipping on your first order that's everlane.com forward slash ding dong everlane.com forward slash ding dong But I wanted to Before we run too far away from Wolfie Tell you this amazing magic thing
Starting point is 00:26:51 Which is that So she had this dream eight years ago Our kid's name is Wolfie We didn't know how We were going to make our kid We were just sort of scoping things out Asking questions about adoption Asking questions about our friends that conceived And um shauna gets sick in uh sayulita mexico and we're
Starting point is 00:27:10 on vacation i take a surf lesson and my instructor is this gorgeous angel that like if i was casting the male me in the movie oh my god jeffrey self told us about this it's it was just so i met him yeah we drank mezcal after started chatting his dad is a police chief his mom is a chemist he is an amazing just like chill
Starting point is 00:27:31 person soul picks up like a piece of garbage casually on the beach keeps walking I'm just like I want your sperm
Starting point is 00:27:39 like I'm just like and you knew it was him yearning for that and I knew it was him and then I asked Shauna Shauna's like you're crazy she meets him in a for that yeah and i knew it was him and then i asked shauna shauna's like you're crazy she meets him in a second she's like you can ask him whoa and then so i take another lesson and i ask him in the water and in the water i see as we're going out
Starting point is 00:27:54 for the first time on his back is a tattoo of a wolf shut up and bitch. My arms are up. Oh my God. You raised them. The crop of the wolf, the face of the wolf and the style is exactly the same as a year before, same time we're taking a vacation in Palm Springs and our friends happen to be there. We do a joke Christmas present exchange and they give us a plate that has a wolf on it. They know nothing about this wolf plan. And in the corner it says mom, like someone had drawn it for their mom. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's fucking crazy. The same crop. Yeah. Oh my God. Wow. Okay. So then you ask him. I've got to take a picture just to have it on the ready of the plate.
Starting point is 00:28:36 The thing, the tattoo. You need that. You need to put it in like a little book. Make it a fucking triptych. Cause honestly, like that is, that's like some shit.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And today I'm getting a tattoo of a wolf. That's some universal. Wait, literally? My first tattoo I'm getting today. Amazing. Oh my God. These are fake tattoos from last night. I was dressed up as Shana.
Starting point is 00:28:52 But I'm getting a tattoo right here. It'll be a wolf, a girl, and then on top a little owl. Oh my God. Are you nervous about it? I'm very nervous, but I'm playing it cool. Yeah. You seem like. Yeah, it's like you got to be like when people are like,
Starting point is 00:29:03 I ain't nervous to get on stage in front of all those people. It's like, no bitch. But then you're like, you know, you look through your set list. Right. Of course. And then you're like, do I know any of my jokes? This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. Friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City.
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Starting point is 00:29:44 I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what folks? We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude. And dudes on dudes is our brand new show.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Or dudes dude. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules.
Starting point is 00:30:28 New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
Starting point is 00:30:59 See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that. Like, years of work. Listen to On Purpose with
Starting point is 00:32:31 Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. But yet, okay, so you ask him. Get up there and I'll riff. Just riff. You ask him you ask him
Starting point is 00:32:47 for his sperm what's his reaction beautiful it's just like all meant to be like i it's in the water and it's i mean it's felt the same way like when i saw shauna and i knew that she was important in my life and you know like it's just like you see someone and you're like this is the stakes could not be higher you know it's like this is like and in meet like when you want to meet someone and you want to like come off as or like, you know, you want to come off as chill. But what you're asking or what you want is so big. So not chill. So not chill. Be my daddy.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Surfing lessons are also the most harrowing, fraught. OK, I guess it was it one-on-one it was one-on-one yeah okay great because what i pictured was like blue crush like michelle rodriguez will be like on the waves together just like high-fiving it'll be like you know tip your nose up and i'll be like i can't hear you over the waves yeah but what it is is it's a lot of like sitting standing in the water you're laying on top of the board. He's holding the nose of the board and looking at the ocean and looking into your eyes and waiting to like release you into the right wave at the right time. And it's very much like bringing up this like big thing out of nowhere. You're waiting for like the right conversational energy to be like, and this is me.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I'm getting up on the board of what I'm asking you. Wow. So I said, I want to ask you something, and I don't feel any pressure. This is maybe going to be a strange thing, and I've never asked anyone this before. But my wife and I would like to have a baby, and we were wondering if you would be interested in helping us. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And he looked at me and he smiled and he was like, that sounds interesting. He's like, I don't know how that works, but you guys are a beautiful couple and if I can help you, then that sounds interesting. Oh my God. What a scene. So then I just like took the next wave in and ran up to Sean and I was like. couple and if I can help you then that sounds interesting oh my god what a scene so then I just like took the next wave in and ran up to Shauna I was like
Starting point is 00:34:49 we got a sperm oh my god wait for real though that was like I ran up to yeah I ran up to Shauna told her ran back and you know like did a couple more waves yeah yeah it was just like you, like in my mind.
Starting point is 00:35:05 You couldn't really think about that. Putting together prototypes of like how to get the jizz inside Shauna. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also knew nothing about ovulation. I knew nothing about the process. Right, right, right. So I was just like running to bodegas in Sayulito, like emptying tampons, like trying to like, will the applicator work?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Or like taking a dish glove and like cutting the thumb. That was my like best prototype. And then duct taping it and then cutting a hole. I i just i didn't know also how little sperm came out of it pain i thought like i'd be piping icing into shauna just like how did it work the way that it actually did work was no we did it ourselves and this is like i want to talk about it all the time because i want people to know yeah no please talk about it like um that you can do you can try this i know that like no one is entitled to like a specific birth path no but it's gay or straight it's like you just sort of like wiggle into whatever door opens but
Starting point is 00:35:56 um but basically we just calculated shauna's ovulations, went back to Mexico, and he came into a sterile cup. Shauna made like an altar in our Airbnb. So he came into the, no, that wasn't the order. He came into the cup. Shauna makes this altar. Makes the altar around the cup. Finish the altar, babe.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And also she was doing the jack off motion when she said came into the cup. Just so everyone knows. He came into a cup. He came into a cup. Like everyone knows he came into a cup he came into a cup like you do and then he leaves
Starting point is 00:36:29 I put it into a sterile syringe like needle without a needle put that in my arm under my armpit and so it stays warm
Starting point is 00:36:39 Shauna and I made love I put the sperm inside of her so orgasm to get warm and wet inside and then sperm and then orgasm again to wow for good luck and because i'm an excellent lover oh yeah under pressure yeah oh that's when i prefer it there better be something exploding around me um and then you can only come with the threat of baby that's when i take out the syringe and the blessings
Starting point is 00:37:03 came and the Lord loved it. And the Lord was like, yep. And the Lord and the universe and the world were all like, we all agree, right, Han? I accept the recipe. That's amazing. Right? And then the first time we did that, she got pregnant. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Wow. Gorgeous. It was truly gorgeous. And got to like we when we went back we got to spend a lot of time with him yes around yeah he's actually coming to visit in a few weeks with his girlfriend who he met in the water like weeks after we met him amazing and so has he met Wolfie yet yeah he is not but we've facetimed actually his mom is flying into giving so what's his real what do you feel like his relationship is to...
Starting point is 00:37:45 I think it's like he's his biological father, but he's not his parental father. Right, of course. I feel like more of the parental father. Wolfie's going to call me Baba. I love that. Which is for do for dad. Yes, gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Lalu Baba. Lalu Baba. Lalu Baba. I kind of love that as a title. Lullabas sounds so cute. Then, yeah. And like, you know, we'll just like see what the flow of the ocean is in terms of like, there's no pressure on him to be anything.
Starting point is 00:38:18 But he definitely, I think like just the way the puzzle pieces fit together is kind of perfect. So beautiful. definitely i think like just the way the puzzle pieces fit together is kind of perfect where he wants he wants to be around and that's perfect for the way we want wolfie yeah you know to understand this amazing story and how like how intentional and how magic that's beautiful and from the ocean he is it really is from the ocean that's yeah and the crazy thing is the day that i asked him because after sean i was like you can ask him it wasn't like it's on it was like okay this is still a crazy thing like i'm just still in crazy town like we had the chances of someone being super receptive to this wild kind of like proposition is you have no way of knowing no way it's not even that it's small or big it's that you have no way of knowing yeah yeah so it was so so we had like one last day and we were supposed to
Starting point is 00:39:09 go out on this deep sea fishing trip and so that would have kind of like taken our day and the chances of bumping into him anyways the trip got canceled because the ocean was too rocky oh and so we as we were walking back from that canceled boat trip on this like only time that we could lock this in he was walking out to go teach a lesson and i was like can i take one after so that's that's amazing that's like yeah tell the story all the time yeah i want to i want to write a movie about it i was gonna say you really should or it sounds like at least like maybe even like a limited series television because you know they're like a webisode a webisode or um not to like a graphic novel graphic novel not to like draw the
Starting point is 00:39:55 straight line but it feels like that is also fully in diablo's wheelhouse too this kind of story i don't know i don't know yeah so cool yeah so cool yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean tonally she does these like honest yeah real yeah it's yeah like I always refer to
Starting point is 00:40:10 did we talk about Diablo on the podcast or no we briefly talked about her before we got on the record but we did we just spoke about it but we haven't talked about her
Starting point is 00:40:19 so the listeners can know but we were saying that like it's true she really Tully is one I haven't seen and you were talking about how it's so great to tully is one i haven't seen and you were talking about how it's so great to like be able to see this movie that really yeah like just that shot it was in the preview but the shot of the breast milk bag like just slowly falling it's like just
Starting point is 00:40:34 like a a thing that means so much to an audience too that is just like it's wild that i mean like gay stories stories about women we it is so exciting for us right now because we're at like just this forefront actually when I saw you guys in Montreal and you were having so much fun um it was like just this heart like this like you know it's just amazing and wild to think but it is kind of the we're at the forefront of like just being able to like celebrate and be received in that way and not be like pigeonholed into a thing but just like you know like not be having to be conscious of how gay or not gay yeah you are i think i think now whenever i notice how gay i am i'm like oh that's weird whereas i used to notice how gay i
Starting point is 00:41:23 was all the time like I used to I used to feel uh other and the verdict around it was I'm being so gay fuck yes but now it's like oh okay cool I'm being gay yeah now it's like it's honestly it's cool to for that to be the thing that people like about what you do you know what I mean yeah well just that you're just intrinsically playing in your truth is nice because I think I mean when i was younger too i started stand-up when i was 16 and there was this it was more about race but it was the exact same thing of like being conscious of like how brown am i being and what you know like how much race stuff am i doing and it's just like you you uh get older wiser and develop as an artist and you realize
Starting point is 00:42:04 like oh all of that shit none of that shit mattered at all it was always just like how me am i being yeah and how honest about what i actually want to be talking about on stage that's like all a yeah for me like i would rather just i would rather watch anyone just talk about truthfully what they feel on stage then. And so in Montreal, the thing, I don't, there's not to name any names or anything, but like there is just like, because of the way things worked, like even when I started standup,
Starting point is 00:42:38 there, it was just like inescapable that gay acts would have to, there was just like a pain. There was like a pain that was there that is just like, uh, I feel like not. It's like, you guys, us,
Starting point is 00:42:54 we are here in this like new era where it's like, it's really fun. Yeah. It feels like it only just happened over the past three or four years. Yeah. And that's something I always, when Monica Lewinsky, when Monica Lewinsky did her TED talk,
Starting point is 00:43:05 I was going to say that was, I was like, this is a queer moment. But what, what's interesting about it though, is it's like, I always tell people like, it's crazy how much has changed in a short period of time.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Because if you even go back like five years, six years, like, which doesn't seem too long ago, but so much shit has changed. Like I really feel like, and we talked about with about this a lot with mateo actually when he did our show like how mateo had like a little relationship
Starting point is 00:43:31 with joel because they never got to see each other because they never were booked on the same shows you know what i mean like they're just the one of yeah and people would never book both yeah yeah and just like um how that's sort of changed a little bit over the like now when i see a bill i'm like i'm so embarrassed for people that put these lineups together if there are no if there's not like more than one like because it used to be like wow there's no woman on this list now it's like if i see one woman on the list i'm like seriously like when i when i see the cast of like a movie and there's one woman i'm like i'm not watching any movie where there's one woman.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I'm sorry. I'm not. I don't care what the story is. I don't care what the situation is, what you're depicting. I'm just not interested. Natalie Portman did some speech recently. It wasn't for the human rights campaign. It might have been where she was like, you should be embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Like this is how things should be going forward. You should be embarrassed if you have like some homogenous cast or some homogenous group of whatever like be embarrassed this is humiliating you know that's kind of how i feel about the movie first man like the neil armstrong movie yeah i heard it's a great movie but i'm not interested in seeing it because claire foy is the only woman in it and it's just like it's it has nothing to do with whether or not the movie is good it's just like I've seen this story so many times yeah and like I know man going into space put upon
Starting point is 00:44:52 wife yeah you know what oh my god the put upon wife is just from that shooter movie too it's from like every time a man is doing like the big hero thing and the woman is like you're gonna do what right it's Jennifer space it's like bitch this has been a slow how far is space will you be home for dinner i have to stir this pot by
Starting point is 00:45:11 myself of course so the thing like what am i gonna tell our children it's like well this also is a fucking stupid question because if it was you going out there would you want your husband saying the same thing to you it's like this this writing is dumb like these are not the kinds of questions people ask like and like if yeah a cool badass space dude is gonna marry a cool badass earthling lady like give your your male hero more credit there you go i feel like but these were actually you know like to tie it back to the roles and the way that we like envision um like our mates and what our life will look like it's like these are these were the options these were the menu items before and now it's like amazing to to to say like yeah it's obvious that this is like an old way of thinking these are like
Starting point is 00:45:58 old and there's like so there's so many people in um tv writing for like old school people, that are like, oh, back in the day, you used to make $100 million an episode, and now we've got these $1 million a year situations. And it's like, bitch, you're rich. And now there's more people making more money. That's good. A show like Search Party can exist,
Starting point is 00:46:25 and it doesn't have to draw 40 million people people everyone doesn't have to like the same thing but like let's get more menu items going and it's so great menu item and also i really there's something there's very few things i hate than the than the phrase like back in the day like or like when i was young it's like that megan kelly bullshit of like when i was young you used to be able to do this and it wasn't a big deal it's like just put your red hat on and walk. Right. Just because something is nostalgic to you doesn't mean it was right. It doesn't make you like tougher or braver.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Like when like when like old white guys say, well, back in my day, it's like that actually doesn't make you tougher. It makes you more limited. Sure. Yeah. I'm just always worried that we're going to fall into that trap someday, too of like well like we're conscious i already feel like when people talk about polyamory i am like uh the right way i'm like conservative yeah like sure sure which is fine i guess i mean like i just think i haven't because i haven't personally seen people gay men can do it well i and that is again that's again a generalization yeah but i see successful couples yeah right right playing in that way um but i have not really seen
Starting point is 00:47:35 it be and to generalize it is i mean yeah and i wonder what it is about i wonder what it is because it's like yes it's my own fear well i and i think that it's it's a it's it's it's our own fear it's also like again i do think it is like the patriarchy and traditionalism eking in which i think none of us can deny that it does eek in and it does affect our choices subconsciously it eeps and it jerks it plurks it quirks it's very lalu it's laloo it quirks it's laloo laloo it's very laloo it's one of the most laloo things about life but I also think like gay male sexuality I think is
Starting point is 00:48:09 and male sexuality did you say about life? about life about life about life about life about life but gay male sexuality
Starting point is 00:48:18 and male sexuality I think is just different than and then you involve female sexuality in it and I do think there are differences in the two. I'm not well-versed enough in both to talk about why that is. But it feels like in a heterosexual relationship, not only do you have the traditional and the patriarchy
Starting point is 00:48:38 kind of creeping in psychologically, but also there's got to be something there that like, maybe because it's more like intimate and connective, like the actual like. I don't know what it is. But then, Sabrina, for you, for a gay female female relationship. Yeah. Like is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I mean, is that does that go against like generally generalizations people make about how it's so monogamous, how those are so unusually monogamous? And passionately emotional. I don't know. I guess the stereotype about lesbians is like, yeah, it's like we look each other in the eyes and it's always like that, whereas gay men are like, yeah, we came,
Starting point is 00:49:21 now we can go do it with someone else. What is it? Yeah, I mean, well, I guess we can be conscious now after we just had this conversation of like yeah we came now we can go do it with someone else like what is it i mean well i guess we can be conscious now as after we just had this conversation of like we get it i i want to just put it out there that like gender fluidity everything everyone like i do think that like in a future future world if we really really like trust fell back into openness and truth we we could be in relationships with each other totally you know like gay men gay women like just like i do think that halves two halves make a hole in this way that oftentimes like like when i was saying that i was like on the back of the motorcycle wanting to grab the poles it's like i am like i'm in that moment i'm basically i'm like
Starting point is 00:50:02 it's kind of like a two bitcheschers don't make it right type right attitude yeah yeah yeah um but i think that there's you know like there's also there's nothing wrong with just uh things become traditional and think patterns repeat themselves and that's like you know at the end of the day when we go to the airport one of us needs to carry the bags you know and it's not like i'm like i'm dying to carry the heavy bags but it's like i'm the butcher one so i will do it and then when it came time to carry a baby it's like bitch get those hips cracking yeah uh to the family and it's like and so we get to like go on family vacations because we're all doing our roles yeah i think that like you're right about like if we trust fell into what we truth
Starting point is 00:50:45 like what you're saying like if we all actually like let ourselves be attracted to what we're all really attracted to everyone would be fucking their minds would be blown like if we all were just like yeah really let everything go and allowed ourselves and maybe that's like impossible but to just do that it would be crazy yeah and do. And then at the same time, I think it's like when it comes to, maybe there's a thing about polyamory or openness that is like, to me it's like, I am like so, I feel so lucky to be with my wife and I feel like I got a really good deal. Like I exchange rated myself to like a really awesome,
Starting point is 00:51:23 great person, hot, sweet, uh, connected winner when like such a great that I don't want to like go back into the market and be like, yeah, you grab something. I'll grab something.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I'll meet you back here at noon. It's like, I'm terrified. I come back at noon and there's like just a harem of people around her. I'm like one weirdo that won't leave my sexual community. Now you grab something i grab i'm just like with someone that i like felt bad for and like i've been talking to for four hours and she's been fucking there you go every cool model wow that's that's real yeah i
Starting point is 00:51:58 don't know well my boyfriend and i ex-boyfriend we tried um being open and it did not work it seems complicated i felt frustrated because i was like why does this work for everyone else but then i also think there is like the production not i think everyone not to say that there aren't some open relationships that are just seamless i'm good for you that's true but like yeah i think there's struggles in every relationship that we don't all necessarily hear about yeah yes it probably adds a comp a layer of complication regardless yes totally it's another thing to manage. And the mental model of success in a polyamorous relationship, or in an open relationship, which I guess is different. But it doesn't really exist.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I mean, it's tough. The which model? Like when you hear Monique talk about how, like, yes, my husband and I are open and it's been great. Like you don't really know what, like to the public that isn't like, you don't like to me, let's say to the lay person, I don't know what that means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Is it, is it great? And that no one gets jealous, right? Is it great? And that you are also connected with other people now. Is it like, is it great?
Starting point is 00:53:03 And that you guys haven't fought about it? The parameters I think the reason we're having this discussion in the first place is because the parameters aren't set in general for everybody anyway is that people are just making up their own I will say that was the most difficult thing about being in the open relationship
Starting point is 00:53:20 is agreeing on the rules yeah I think it's I think I guess so then rather than say like game it works for gay men it's like it's got to be some it's got to be two people who are have like supreme have supremely mastered their security yes and i communicating that to each other yeah or the other thing is like i think being a part of something together i'm not saying that like in my life i'm that i'm like so narrow that i'm like you know if shauna and i were like in paraguay you know or like we're like off away and there's someone with that like doesn't have
Starting point is 00:53:56 an instagram yeah is so hot and wants us both equally uh-huh like yeah let's do you know like i'm not that's that seems like a safe one in paraguay someone in paraguay took us far away and we fucked um totally a different way for sure um oh wait okay you did you mention off off the mic off the air that you had this stunt moment and oh yeah i'm shooting it tomorrow oh you're shooting it tomorrow you have an acting role in the in the wedding episode yes and i have a stunt double that i can't wait to meet okay and you wrote the wedding i wrote the episode yeah amazing yeah this is incredible okay so you did you know that you were going to be performing the stunt of the role that no they
Starting point is 00:54:40 didn't i read it at the table but then they didn't tell me till last week. And I'm so happy. Okay, wait. I can't believe this wedding episode gets physical. I love it. Don't tell us any. So much happens. This season is so fucking good. I can't wait. It felt so good.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I've been writing on shows for the past few years now. And writing on Search Party, just such a dream. To write on a show that I watched. Yes. Because I came in on the third season for the first time. And just be a part of like playing with the dolls of the story
Starting point is 00:55:07 is just good. And it's such a good, they're such good dolls. They're such good dolls. Charles and SV who created it like just know, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:16 the world of the show and they know what they want and that was like so special because I had been working in network where it's like there's like so much pressure and so many people telling you kind of what the story is that oftentimes it gets lost.
Starting point is 00:55:30 You know, it's like the story is that way, that way, that way. And it's like, what are we, why did we even step on stage to tell this story? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, Charles and SV are perfect. Is Lily in the room? Um, Lily's in the room.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Lily's having a baby. I know. Really? Lily Burns. I didn't know Lily was having a baby It's all over her It's like bursting through her belly Oh wait now I'm actually remembering vividly Yes I do know this
Starting point is 00:55:54 She is truly the best Like the coolest smartest Yeah very cool very smart Fun to be part of Just fun to be good Ya bitch is in the fourth episode oh that rocker yes tiny part um first season i just this is such a weird thing to be obsessed over but i just loved the promo art styles i love it where the first season was like hardy boys nancy drew second
Starting point is 00:56:19 season was hitchcock i you don't have to tell me i just i can't wait for what the third when does it premiere when does it start i don't know when we don't have to tell me. I can't wait for the third season. When does it premiere? When does it start? I don't know. When do things start? We're shooting, like, I think they've got one more month left of shooting. Because I remember last year it started around this time. But it seems like, yeah, you guys are obviously shooting this time. Well, I'll try and do some editing
Starting point is 00:56:37 after this. Yeah, just get to work because we want it to be rather than later. Thank you. The second season is so fucking good. The show is so great. Let's face it, Matt. Nobody likes going to the doctor. It can be inconvenient. It can be very inconvenient.
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Starting point is 00:58:46 when did you leave Canada? Oh, like a long time ago, like 99. Okay, cool. So a little bit after that, I guess it was like probably, I was 19 years old. I'm 33 now. So that many years ago,
Starting point is 00:59:02 I was the host of a kid's show on YTV called In Real Life. YTV? Oh my God, we can run YTV? Yeah. And it was three seasons of like running around North... It was like Amazing Race, but for kids. Oh, I love it. And one episode they learned how to be stunt drivers. Stunt
Starting point is 00:59:14 doubles. Stunt doubles on Paramount lot. I love it. And I met this lady, Mary Albee. Wait! So you met her back then? Yes. Oh, oh my god. Do you guys do any editing of music? because i feel like this would be like a good place for like the mary albee moment we will we'll put it in we'll cut that in um okay good um and we're back
Starting point is 00:59:37 sabrina tell us more about mary um first raise your expectations because i'm getting nervous about how good the conversation was basically we were having lunch and she taught me about like she's like look this is a crazy industry you got to diversify your investments you got she had an avocado farm and she invested in real estate but i really uh you know that stuck in my head and then i yeah and then and then now she fucking, she's your stunt double. She's my stunt, no, she's not my, she is. No, this is not, no.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I thought you were saying Mary Albee's doing stunts for you for tomorrow. I was out till four in the morning and I literally. I thought you literally had met this woman years ago. I know, I met this woman in the 80s, like way back in what I, for in, okay. In the 80s, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is for in real life. I met her in real life on the show, like way back. In the 80s, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was for In Real Life. I met her in real life on the show In Real Life. It's not, now that I'm saying it, it's like not a good story.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Like she didn't really, she literally told me to buy an avocado farm. I didn't buy one, so it's not like, and looking back. But you always remembered that. It's like, I remember it. Anyway, stunts. Oh my God. I really, wasn't that also like like i wasn't even invited on the show and i was like mary albee i don't even know if that's her real name
Starting point is 01:00:51 i mean the thing about stunts is it's an it's like have i ever done a stunt i i've only worked with stunt doubles on stunt people on Broad City because the people these two women who are fighting at this pop-up sale were these stunt women and one of them had this claw me in the face but they were just catching like they know it's such a small industry where everyone knows each other
Starting point is 01:01:17 think of like how incestuous people say comedy is but no it's like scale it down even more it's like that's the stunt industry and maybe if it's like the Olympics they all they all have sex with each other i hope just to add a little sex wait i think about sex to the mic after my big i think about like all the olympic athletes fucking and it really drives me it's all i do it's all i do remember oh i remember during london um someone told me yoni lochan told me he was like have you heard about this this grinder i'm so horny for them just so many cartwheels in their sex.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Grinder what? Like in London in 2012, there was this grinder traffic spiked in London at the Olympic Village because all these athletes were fucking each other. And there were so many gay athletes. There were so many gay athletes. Just fucking. And that's all I've been able to think about. When the Olympics roll on, I'm like, oh, they're all
Starting point is 01:02:01 all these gay men in perfect bodies are fucking each other. I know, it it's so wild let's do a competition and then your listeners have to vote in which is the best fucking moment of two olympic athletes i will start okay okay bradley walks up to the horse bar. He mounts it. He does a front flip and lands on Tatiana's lap. She is wearing a strap on. That is my move.
Starting point is 01:02:37 That's great. Okay, that's good. Should I go next? Now, are Bradley and Tatiana real people that I should know about? No. Okay, good. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Thomas is standing on the diving board. He is being watched by millions of people. Ah, yours is so good. I'm jealous. He crouches down sort of like a pop star and slowly runs his hands up his body and it's so sensual and he rises up with his hands until he
Starting point is 01:03:12 puts his hands above his head like a gymnast like this and you just see his hands go like his little hands they go down like when a gymnast lands and they go yeah it's at this moment that someone comes up behind him.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It's Roland. And Roland kind of grabs him. And like they, Roland kisses his ear. And he starts to bite his ear a little bit. Oh my God. And millions are watching this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 They never jump in the water oh and they just fuck on the board they and they they don't even penetrate it's just raw sensuality and it's so romantic i love that that gays are accepted yes i'm so jealous i'm so embarrassed about mine why did i do a kind of sex that i've never been involved in why did i give shitty names literally bragging that i'm good at what you've just heard is my actual sexual fantasy which is me being watched by millions of people be sexy and then someone comes up behind me and bites my ear and like fucking whispers in my ear. And I'm like, I can't follow this. Yeah, that's really hard.
Starting point is 01:04:30 You're a fucking writer on the show. Stop. Okay. It's the opening ceremony. Oh, God. And the flags are being wheeled out and carried out. I should say. You have Ding Ding in the Chinese delegation.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yes. The Chinese team. Ding Ding. Who is a 19-year-old. He's also a gymnast, male gymnast, rippling muscles. Hot. Hot. Stocky or lean?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Stocky. Okay. Stocky dude. Stockyy Jing Jing the Chinese gymnast got it and by the way like every every year the Chinese male gymnasts are like in my book like the hottest people and the whole fucking
Starting point is 01:05:16 can I can I say can I can I say one more thing about mine oh my god wait I'm saying something about mine if you say something okay hold on let me. Let me finish. Let me finish. Jesus Christ. Unconscionable. Okay, so.
Starting point is 01:05:32 The viewers are gonna, listeners are gonna be so mad that I did that. Ding, ding, ding, walks out with the flag. And then, three, three,
Starting point is 01:05:40 three delegations ahead is Egypt and Kulthum. Oh my God. Who is named after the Egyptian singer and Kulthum. Oh my God. Who is named after the Egyptian singer Um Kulthum. And he's on the hockey team. This is a weird winter, summer sort of confusion. And then Kulthum runs back because he just sensed something.
Starting point is 01:06:04 A sensuality pouring out of Jingjing. And then they 69 while holding each other's flags. So Jingjing's standing. Kultum like wraps his legs around his neck, flips around, goes down. They 69 as they carry their flags. Mary Albee's going to need to get involved in this. Mary Albee is watching from home being like, I have I should have sold the farm I should have been there and then
Starting point is 01:06:28 and then millions the most watched moment in the entire operation right but it's so impressive but also so jarring that people that gays are put in jails everywhere
Starting point is 01:06:44 it has the opposite effect let me just Starring the people that gays are put in jails everywhere. Oh, my God. It has the opposite effect. It has the opposite effect. Now, let me just color my story one more time. Of course, I forgot to say Tomas and Roland. Tomas is competing for Mexico, and Roland is competing for America, and therefore it is a political statement. Trump is fuming.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Okay. And Trump, actually, when he sees this, turns to sand. God, beautiful. Oh actually when he sees this turns to sand got a little beautiful oh my god he turns to sand okay so brita do you have anything to add yeah um tatiana's gorgeous i already thought of her as gorgeous what does she look like describe her gender fluid yes okay no one. No one cares. No one cares. About the bio. It's all steam on the face. Gorge.
Starting point is 01:07:31 She sounds so sensual. So stunning. Bradley's real name is Blantiti. Oh, Blantiti. Get the last name. Horashta. Horashta? Horashta?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Pakistani? G-Hur. Ah, G-Hur. I forgot to say Toma's last name. What? Roma. Horashta Horashta Rantiti Horashta Pakistani Jiha Ah Jiha I forgot to say Toma's last name Roma Toma Roma
Starting point is 01:07:51 And what's Roland's last name Williams Roland Yeah Tatiana Mononym Oh Tatiana's mononym
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah Tatiana's mononym Tatiana's known Mononymously as Tatiana Tatiana Jingjing's full name is Wen Jingjing because last names
Starting point is 01:08:06 go first in Chinese. Sure, sure, sure. And Kutum is Kutum Um, which is a reversal of Um Kutum, which is an Egyptian singer. Is Um Kutum
Starting point is 01:08:14 actually an Egyptian singer? She is, yes. She was like the Madonna of... She was bigger than Madonna. She was like... What? She was like the biggest selling artist
Starting point is 01:08:25 in like all of Africa and Europe like just what happened to her why haven't I heard of her she she like she died in like the 50s
Starting point is 01:08:32 or the 60s or something oh this she was very long ago she was very long ago oh how do you know that I took a musicology course he's Las Culturistas I'm Las Culturistas oh
Starting point is 01:08:39 there you go maybe you've heard um maybe you've heard wait we have to ask Sabrina this question now oh yes we do you ask it okay so Sabrina this is the question, we have to ask Sabrina this question now. Oh, yes, we do. You ask it.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Okay, so Sabrina, this is the question that we ask all of our guests when they roll through, which is, what was the culture that made you say, culture was for me? Like the pop culture that you experienced as a youngster that made you kind of step into who you were. Like it's like a movie. A book, a show. A person that was like a celebrity like a culture that you grew up with what was the defining thing that you're like oh
Starting point is 01:09:09 that was kind of like what defined me i've just been so nervous ever since you said we ask this to everybody oh there's nobody but this is about stepping forward is finally racing away from that stepping forward it could just be like a canada or it could be like just any big broad thing. Like seeing Ellen DeGeneres. Oh, there you go. Do stand up. Amazing. That was really big for you?
Starting point is 01:09:33 Yeah. Yeah. Because she was and I didn't know that I was gay. And I was just like watching this like. Did you know that she was gay the first time you saw her? I knew she was like me in some way. I hear you. You know, like just seeing this woman be in her power
Starting point is 01:09:45 and not be like, yeah, breaking out of whatever anyone was supposed to be like and just being so cool and fun. And then are you, I'm curious, well, not to like, I'm curious, like do you feel like Ellen has like lived up to that power like throughout her whole career? Well, now she's a huge company.
Starting point is 01:10:06 And I don't think it's a secret that people say she's not that nice. Which is a bummer. But also, everybody can't be everything. Totally. Sarah Silverman is also someone that I love and admire. And then last week, that quote that she said was like, I mean, no matter what was attached before and after, the thing about like, Louis C.K. masturbated in front of me it's like why why that but it's like if you just keep on talking i guess you will get caught up in some silliness oh yeah i mean that's kind of what we always say
Starting point is 01:10:34 like there's literally now hundreds of hours of us just talking especially in the beginning when we thought no one would listen to this yeah like they'll get us um but yeah there is that thing of like yeah to ellen's credit i think like at least she's in complete control of everything that she's in her power so you you would never know because of something she does that she wasn't great it's just like leaking people that i guess like have experiences with her and i will say also I think the people are always excited for a take on yeah on an icon you know like every every single person she meets they have a takeaway of like the time they met Ellen yes and she has like a hundred million and one business things to do in a day so you can't be everything you're
Starting point is 01:11:19 right yeah yeah and and does she do more great than bad for sure right i would say that she's every day yes genuinely and generally yes used her powers for good yeah and i guess that is the ultimate question that if you ask if you go to bed every night and you say did i use my powers for good today and yeah no we're we're we've sort of taken ellen to task very fun, facetious ways. No, I actually have a real problem with Ellen. Cut to! My issue with Ellen is that I often think she gives problematic and sometimes maybe even dangerous celebrities platforms
Starting point is 01:11:54 to kind of like look good. Okay. So I think that's an issue that I personally have with her. Which ones? The example that I cite is Matthew Fox from Lost. He like punched a bus driver A female bus driver Matthew Fox was also on Party of Five
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah I didn't even know that about him He apparently was like a little bit Or maybe even a lot a bit abusive towards people And I think that the very first Talk show that he went on Was like Ellen's show And this is kind of before the whole era of like Time's Up Me Too
Starting point is 01:12:24 I believe women being the kind of before the whole era of like times up me to believe women being the kind of thing it is, but she didn't not give him a platform to be like, this isn't who you are. This is, this can't possibly be true when it like very much possibly could be true. And there was footage of him. No,
Starting point is 01:12:38 I don't know if that there was footage. I don't know about like what the specifics was. I know that his co-stars from lost also stepped forward and said, he's an abuser. Like Dominic Monaghan came forward and said that. The way she framed the interview was very much like, come on, it's not you. It was like, wait, we know this isn't you. So what happened? And then he was able to say his story.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Meanwhile, like this woman that made the allegation, like I don't think she was afforded the same opportunities. Definitely. opportunities definitely also i guess you just like you it is inevitable that you get at your you lose touch with certain right aspects of right being a regular person when you're famous for most of your life and also you know what i don't fucking know ellen i just know like that's that's like i don't i also don't know that it was entirely her decision to have him on i also find that she is usually the one to have like bieber on or like think, I don't know if she's had Kanye on lately, but I feel like it's just like, you can always kind of count on her to like, I think be an advocate for these extremely famous people that have problems,
Starting point is 01:13:35 which is, I think having to do with the fact that she knows what it's like to be extremely famous and be scrutinized. However, I don't always think these people deserve the kind of retribution that kind of platform to get retribution that she allows them sometimes I think you call a spade a spade the losing touch part is interesting
Starting point is 01:13:53 oh I was talking to someone about this but very funny and influential and good totally there's this thing this is fun weird trend now where it's like these actors turn directors are making these period coming of age movies, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:08 With like your Greta Gerwig's Lady Bird's, your Jonah in the mid 90s. Even I guess Bo, I guess it's not period, but Bo Burnham with Eighth Grade. It's like there's this, it's like a new weird, new fun subgenre. Seems like a trend. It's a trend. And then we were like, what is that? And then Sandy Honig was like, I think it's because, and Sandy said that her brother Jake said this. It's like the reason they're making these period movies
Starting point is 01:14:30 that are coming of age is because that was the last time that they were like not famous and normal. They were like, wait, I was normal back then. Let me make a movie about that. And at least, like that's better than like fully losing touch is to like create a touchstone for that but like I don't know yeah I mean your Ellen's are your Ellen's aren't gonna be everything
Starting point is 01:14:50 but also I mean her standard back then was like amazing she's revolutionary yeah like huge fucking deal love her she's the Mary Albee of comedy she's the I believe that Ellen has done a lot of people I also think that I also think Ellen could do stunts.
Starting point is 01:15:06 She could do stunts. Mary is the... Oh, one other thing about stunts. Please let this be better than the avocado farm. Please. Just a podcast where you say what your inner monologue is about what you're thinking to say. Oh, it's better.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Make this interesting. I hope the hosts like it. Is that when I was on In Real Life, what I also learned from her was that stunt people get paid like double or triple what actors get paid. And if you're ever on set and you're asked to do anything, and it doesn't have to actually be a stunt, if you're riding a horse,
Starting point is 01:15:42 if you're like someone punches but misses you, it doesn't have to be be a stunt if you're riding a horse if you're like someone you know punches but misses you like it's not it doesn't have to be like a huge action thing okay it qualifies as stunt pay and now looking back it's actually something that i was like was i on the right side of my own history on this because i found that out and then made my agent fight for stunt pay like every time i like lifted a bag like every time I did anything at all I love that that's amazing yes advocate for yourself and eventually one of the producers pulled me aside or the creator of the show pulled me aside he was like you know when when your agent is talking to us about money that like it's actually a conversation between you and me and I was like yeah but I'm
Starting point is 01:16:20 doing it I don't know what this is about. Wait, I actually, wait, I'm not comfortable with this. Wait, hold on. This seems kind of stunty to me. I'm actually really not comfortable with this. Are you going to throw me somewhere? This conversation seems like I should get paid stunt money. But the whole show was like, then you could always justify, because we were like, you know, running around alligators and like just doing wild stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Oh my God. Did you, I fucking was obsessed with it. It worked. They liked it. They liked that part. They liked that part. Did you do, I fucking was obsessed with that. It worked. They liked it. They liked that part. They liked that part. Did you ever watch Uh-Oh on YTV as a kid? With the goo?
Starting point is 01:16:50 With the goo. Yeah, of course. Did they invent that before Nickelodeon did? No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. I wonder. Are you saying, are you attacking America
Starting point is 01:16:57 by saying that Nickelodeon wasn't the first to bring goo? Absolutely. How do you feel about the new regime being like mad at Canada? It's just like a whole other layer of like, oh God'm brown i'm gay i'm an immigrant and you hate canada wait they do they do they hate canada yes they say that the beautiful prime minister is being unreasonable they're just like like it's yeah it's the the fact that the u.s is antagonizing Canada is highly unusual
Starting point is 01:17:25 It's I mean It's so weird It's like someone having a problem with Aparna Nancherla When she's in the green room I'm not in there Can you imagine I was gonna say Wait now I'm thinking about
Starting point is 01:17:43 Fanfic of Trudeau and anthony oh canadians that's those are two people who's i would love to watch is there a diving board for me it's not even about sexuality i'd love to watch them like each other's ass oh my god um they're so hot also trudeau's butt is out of control have Have you seen his butt recently? It's that like photo of his ass. It's like, I just wanted to say that Mary Albee is the Tomaroma of Stone. Tomaroma. I just want to say that Tatiana, after Bradley lands on her,
Starting point is 01:18:22 by the way, the thing that he jumps off is 100 miles tall. I forgot to tell you. 100 miles tall. The tallest structure ever. And there's a roof over it. She takes an avocado out of her butt, cracks it open, uses her nails to slice around it, opens it, and inside is the perfect guac.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Oh, the guac is already made. It's made from the smashing from Bradley Landing. I forgot to say that Tomaroma looks like a Latino version of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Roland Williams looks
Starting point is 01:18:57 exactly like Anthony. In fact, it is Anthony. I forgot to say that Jing Jing also does, he is a gymnast after all, also does the 100 mile obama horse, lands and does unfortunately die as
Starting point is 01:19:13 most people would, but Bradley lands perfectly on the strap-on, gets pegged, and doesn't... And comes immediately... Sorry. Someone told me recently that they sat on a dick and comes immediately. Fan fiction about my facts. Fan fiction about my facts. Someone told me recently that they sat on a dick
Starting point is 01:19:28 and came immediately and I was like, imagine that. Oh my god. Imagine that. In fact, good mutual friend of ours. Sat on a dick and came immediately. Oh, really? Fine.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I whispered it over the mic. I think it's time. I think it might be time For I don't think so honey It's time for I don't think so honey Okay cool Are you fucking ready I'm fucking ready Okay
Starting point is 01:19:53 So I don't think so honey Oh by the way Are you gonna be in December Are you gonna be in December I already harassed you On Twitter about it I know But you are on the show
Starting point is 01:19:59 Okay perfect So you're booked Me and Joel Kim Booster Are gonna host it together Cause Bo and Yang Are gonna be working Working working How come you can't leave I can't leave You should leave for a second I can't leave for a second Perfect. So you're booked. Me and Joel Kim Booster are going to host it together because Bo and Yang will be working, working, working. How come you can't leave?
Starting point is 01:20:06 I can't leave. You should leave for a second. I could leave for a second. You should say in your contract when you want to go, you can go. When you want to come back, you can come back
Starting point is 01:20:13 and you're not staying all night with those fools. And I do stunt pay. I do stunt. Excuse me? I'm doing some stunt writing and I'm feeling dangerous. Can someone put some money
Starting point is 01:20:22 in my pocket? I'm not comfortable with this conversation. I'm stunt. Listen, December put some money in my pocket? I'm not comfortable with this conversation. I'm stunned. Listen, December 5th, LA, the region. It's just going to be
Starting point is 01:20:30 so much fun. Get your tickets now. It's downtown LA. I'm seething with jealousy that I can't do it. November 30th, we're doing one here at the Bell House.
Starting point is 01:20:37 That'll be fucking fun. November 26th, we're doing Queers Live at Joe's Pub. Yes. April 19th, my birthday. Oh. March 5th, my birthday,
Starting point is 01:20:44 just a little bit sooner. November 6th, election day, my birthday oh march 5th of my birthday just a little bit sooner november 6th election day my birthday january 27th when my son was born but i guess by the time this is over by the time this episode is released we'll already have voted oh my god i don't think so honey the pit in my stomach i know yeah i don't think so honey that feeling we'll see okay um i actually have something okay great um this is matt rogers's i don't think so feeling. We'll see. Okay. I actually have something. Okay, great. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I don't think so honey when people are arguing
Starting point is 01:21:08 on the subway and it gets physical. Oh. You guys, it is never worth it. I don't care if you think you are right in this argument,
Starting point is 01:21:15 this dispute, whatever. Do not touch another person and if someone is trying to comfort you physically, you get up and you walk the fuck away. Over the past month, I have seen so many
Starting point is 01:21:25 people just like fucking do dick measuring contests men and women alike and it's just like you guys it is you're gonna hurt someone else like that's the thing is it's like if you're on the side of the subway like and you're waiting for something to come and you start having a physical altercation and screaming you make people nervous like if you push someone like the subways are crowded like seriously put your dick away stop it it is not worth it i understand you might feel like in the wrong but it's like when you're in the subway that's the fucking wild west that to me is like a place where you do not mess around if someone gets pushed onto the tracks that's a fucking nightmare scenario five seconds do not be fighting on the subway if it gets physical you run the other way
Starting point is 01:22:05 oh my god that's one minute i didn't know this was happening so often i've been witnessing it happened so many times recently where it's just like a stupid little fight or like someone catches someone the wrong way where like they they hear something like i was on the subway the other day actually at the fulton g stop and this woman like really started screaming at this other woman because she felt that she was nasty to her son or like gave her son a weird look. And then it immediately like two minutes into the conversation, of course, got like racial. And then it was like this weird thing where it was like, I don't think this is going to stop. And I actually ended up my subway came and I had driven away before it got to there. But it got, both of them started physically threatening each other.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Like it was like, one of them got up and then she slammed the coffee out of the other one's hand. So it did get physical. I was like, there's kids there. It's like, you have to know better than this. Like stop. And also because it is a little bit about performing for people. You know what I mean? When you're fighting like that.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And then she kept saying like, I will do whatever it takes to protect my kids. And I'm like, you are not protecting your kids right now. And then it was this whole other issue of like, this woman's clearly unstable. And the other woman didn't have any sense in her fucking brain because she wouldn't just get up and walk away. She just kept responding.
Starting point is 01:23:22 And it's like, someone's got to be the bigger person here like especially on the subway it particularly bothers me there because it's like such like a weird like amorphous situation like it's really dangerous down there i don't know i really don't like it physical violent like domestic it just like my whole body and my whole i can't get it out of my head it's like just the idea of not feeling safe and just like what the least you could do is not fucking punch people and hurt people and make people
Starting point is 01:23:53 unless it's a Nazi unless it's a Nazi and please be in the field just no fighting in the subway no fighting in the subway it's not worth it also you're not going to see each other literally ever again. Ever again. Like, what are you getting out of it?
Starting point is 01:24:08 You're only involving each other in your... You're only involving the other person in your life forever. Don't be fighting in the subway. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, this new trend of corduroy being back in. Yes, I'm looking at my blue corduroy hat, but also I got on the ground floor with this trend back in 2005
Starting point is 01:24:26 when I bought a brown corduroy blazer and I felt like fucking Mark from Rent, bitch. I felt like an... I was so ahead of this trend and now everyone wants to hop on this thing now that I invented, I should say. I basically
Starting point is 01:24:41 sewed this hat together. I truly did. I might as well have. I basically, I sewed this hat together. I truly did. And I might as well have. I mean, it's figuratively speaking. 30 seconds, bitch. I don't know about this corduroy thing. I know it's fall,
Starting point is 01:24:52 but we're grasping at straws here. We still have not given flannel its full moment. I think there's plenty to be explored in the area of flannels. And for people to start going crazy over corduroy, 15 seconds. over this rough,
Starting point is 01:25:05 basically striped material is a patently stupid to me. And, uh, I don't think I don't, fashion will look back. History will look back on this with, um, a discerning eye and we will not look,
Starting point is 01:25:17 be looking back on this. And that's one minute. So he's attacked something that he does. Um, no, I'm wearing a corduroy hat as well, but I'm saying this trend now of other people, of the'm wearing a corduroy hat as well. I'm saying this trend now of the lay
Starting point is 01:25:28 person wearing corduroy. This is for the patricians. No. Not for anyone else. Wow, that was true superiority. Classism. You are classist. I am classist. Also, I will say,
Starting point is 01:25:42 you know who's a true flannel queen is me and I have not been wearing my flannel and also our guest is wearing flannel Sabrina's wearing both she's wearing flannel and corduroy get me two thick baby jellies peppy baby jellies lalo baba wait have you met Sudi yet I feel like you and Sudi
Starting point is 01:26:00 yeah yeah yeah I met when I met you guys at Charles' other party in LA oh yes he was there beautiful i feel like you guys are that was a gorgeous meeting and i you were not there and now sometimes we're on in each other's instas i like your picture love that that was good wait so we met and sabrina uh that wasn't one of the nights i danced the hardest in my life wow did you see me dancing that night i gave you the power to dance that night you did actually i chose one person to activate and it was you because she was hanging out with lisa trager and i said oh any friend of lisa trager oh
Starting point is 01:26:32 lisa trager is currently wheeling our son around uh whole foods oh my god seriously down fucking high as the hundred mile great nanny I'm sure Lisa's such a good nanny. I love her. Honestly, I fucking love Lisa. She's a great auntie. She is auntie Lisa. It's so weird to just immediately call her. She's a great nanny.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Like, what? Nanny McPhee. She's a wonderful maid. She's a wonderful maid. Nanny Traeger. Nanny Traeger. A professional comedian. I call her Nanny Traeger. There should be a movie called Nanny McPhee. She's a wonderful maid. She's a wonderful maid. Nanny Traeger. Nanny Traeger. A professional comedian. I call her Nanny Traeger.
Starting point is 01:27:08 There should be a movie called Nanny Traeger. We had such a lovely time. The four of us had such a lovely time in Montreal in that pool. Recording the dialogue for the trailer. Do you remember the pool? The pool was fun. Oh, the pool was so fun. And don't say the four of us when also Joel was there.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I was going to mention Joel as well. Joel is also there. Sabrina, are you ready? I am ready. This is Sabrina Jaleesa's I Don't Think So on Here. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. When I came on this podcast and then I immediately started talking about
Starting point is 01:27:29 what celebrities were at the party last night. I felt pressure from you guys to say it. No, don't you do that. Immediately, I don't think so, honey. It doesn't make me look cool. It makes me look like a fool. I don't think so, honey. I'm not cool about a fool. I do not think so about rhyming there. I don't think so, honey. I'm not cool about a fool. I do not think so about rhyming there.
Starting point is 01:27:45 I don't think so, honey, about any time that you get your mouth moving and then start too fast. And then you're like Bradley on that beam about to jump off. And you're going. The gravity is pushing you down and you cannot stop yourself from the riff that you are on. But you do not commit. You don't feel committed to it. You immediately already want to be just the girl that was at the party and not saying that the cool people were there. That makes you part of the cool people.
Starting point is 01:28:10 You feel outside of the coolness if you say that they were there. You could have just blended in. People saw the photos on Instagram. I don't think so, honey. You didn't need to do that. Five seconds. And I don't think so, honey, the way I feel right now. Vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Oh, listen. And that's one minute. But here's the thing. I think it was super cool that, the way I feel right now. Vulnerable. Oh, listen. And that's one minute. But here's the thing. I think it was super cool that you were at an Ellen Page party. I think it was super cool. Ellen Page party is the only kind of party I need. Oh! An Ellen Page party is the only kind of party I need.
Starting point is 01:28:42 I turn the page. I turn the page. I turn the page. She was so good in Inception. Throws mic. Stop. Don't. Break.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And we should mention that Tessa Thompson was also at the party. Yes. But you're right about if you didn't. I always feel dumb after I mentioned it. It would have been cooler. You would have included. I don't know. Is it because I'm Canadian?
Starting point is 01:29:04 Is it because I'm a cute little baby? I it's because this is las colas and we we we we are the culture uh we get to the bottom of culture and that part of that is finding out who was at the cool party and sabrina you're part of the culture now you have to just name the thing when you see it you are on screen you are behind the scenes you are on the creams you're on the deadline cream i can't wait i want to i want to ask one thing about um diablo and yours take it away what what what can you tell us a little bit about what's going to be about absolutely not there you go we can't wait it's a uh uh multi-cam a great hot okay it is kind of
Starting point is 01:29:47 based on a couple like myself and my wife yeah what if the in-laws bought the house right next to you oh
Starting point is 01:29:54 what if it was everybody loves Raymond but just like you know my life wow and what if I wanted the love of my father-in-law
Starting point is 01:30:03 so much that he didn't want to open up and what if the mother-in-law wanted the love of my father-in-law so much that he didn't want to open up? And what if the mother-in-law wanted the love of the daughter of my wife too much? And what if every time you came home, they were there? And what if all these characters loved each other? They were broken, but they really just wanted the love of one another. But they just didn't buy it in the wrong way. Every time the act two drops, there a lot of confusion in an act three
Starting point is 01:30:26 Everybody resolves a bit But it resets every single week Cause you gotta have a show Cause you gotta be great It's Submarina, Submarina Show It's Submarina, Submarina Show And it's gonna be great. We ended on a song.
Starting point is 01:30:47 We always end on a song. We did. You're gonna kill yourself. She's sliding all the way up. She's Bradley-ing. You know what? It's because she got so wet for her own show
Starting point is 01:30:55 that she slid right off her chair. Oh my God. Honestly, the most dangerous stunt I've ever done. Honestly, we can't pay you at all for this. I slid down. We cannot pay you.
Starting point is 01:31:02 You slid and you were almost on the ground. If I could just reference my I don't think so honey, I was Bradley. I for this. I slipped down. We cannot pay you. You were almost on the ground. If I could just reference my, I don't think so, honey. I was Bradley. I was Bradley. If I could just reference. Well, this has been a fucking barrel of laughs. What a lovely, lovely time.
Starting point is 01:31:16 I mean, listen, we talked coach. We talked countries. We talked mulch. If you consider the baby rising out of the mulch. Yes. If you consider. We talked bulge, if you consider the baby rising out of the mulch. Yes, if you consider. We talked bulch to hot men. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Well, look out for Sabrina on the upcoming Search Party season. Yes, please do. Also, check out her Netflix comedy special, The Comedy Line Now. Come to my Instagram. I like attention. She likes attention. She's a beautiful baby. You can find her on the gram.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Wolfie, like Wolfie. Just if you see a picture of Wolfie, give that two hard taps. And her on the gram. Lots of stories. Wolfie, like Wolfie. Just hard. Just if you see a picture of Wolfie, give that two hard taps. And comment La Lu Baba. La Lu Baba. La Lu Baba. I love that pastible.
Starting point is 01:31:52 La Lu Baba. La Lu Baba. Sabrina, we love you so much. Now, before we go, I just want us all to go on because we've already done the song. This is a better copy about Mary. Everyone go on in a circle and say the hottest celebrity.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Yes. Ready? Starting with Bowen Yang. Matthew Fox. What? Do you know that I lined up to see him at Canada's Wonderland? What? Never mind.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Wait, Marine Land or Wonderland? Canada's Wonderland. Did you go to Marine Land as a kid? No, I had Seasons Pass to Wonderland and that's where my theft really started. You were a thief? As a child, I was a thief. We'll get into this next time. I'm putting everything up my sleeves
Starting point is 01:32:26 Really you were like a little pickpocket In Candace Wonderland there was no real police It was a utopia for theft Oh Which is anarchy I'm uh don't steal anymore I'm uh don't steal anymore Hotest celebrity
Starting point is 01:32:42 Both your cell phones are in my pocket I was like where where's my shit? Where's my shit? Jennifer, let's do it. No, go. Oh, I can't be JLH. Hottest celebrity. Hottest.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Can you do it first? Scott Wolf. Hottest celebrity. I'm going to have to go with. Ryan Phillippe. Was it Uthuk? Uthuk. Uthuk.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Uthuk. Uthuk. Armani. Unkutum. Unkutum. Unkutum. There you go. Look her up. Well, look? Utuk Unkutum Unkutum Unkutum Unkutum There you go Well
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