Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Lemonade" (w/ Janie Stolar)
Episode Date: April 27, 2016When Bey gave them Lemonade, Matt and Bowen made this steaming-hot episode of Las Culturistas. Janie Stolar guests for a deep dive on everything LEMONADE. Topics include Beyonce, Beyonce's stylist, Au...thenticity, Hillary Clinton, Drag Race, The Real World, and much much more! Subscribe, rate, and review!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My grandma and your grandma were sitting by the fire. ding dong las culturistas calling oh baby baby baby we got a steaming hot episode full of cultural
goss i think you guys this is bowen yang one of your culture consultants and this is matt rogers
i'm the other cultural consultant and let me tell you we are joined by someone who is i mean truly
a culturista we throw the term around but i mean let me tell you this is
someone who's in the now she lives it she breathes it she uh cooks it up for dinner yes she cooks it
up and you eat it up you eat it up you eat what you're eating what she's serving honey let me tell
you right now let me tell you a little bit about this lady all right she's on the herald team sleuth
she's one of the new stacked team, I think.
Yes, absolutely.
Great team.
One of the hosts of one of my favorite shows, the female gaze at UCB.
And one of the hosts of one of my favorite podcasts.
Yes.
The waiting game.
The waiting game with Jesse Galley.
And her name is Janie Stolar.
Hello, Janie Stolar.
Hi, Janie.
So much.
We love.
This is a huge moment for me and Janie because Janie and I, historically, Janie Stolar. I love you so much. We love. This is a huge moment for me and Janie
because Janie and I, historically,
we met on a podcast.
It was the Willennium that we all hoped for.
It was the Willennium we all hoped for.
I'm obsessed with your pod, by the way.
I love it.
Thank you.
And we really are big fans of yours.
Big fan of you guys both.
And I want new episodes.
Come on, people.
Jake the Myth Smith.
Jake the Myth.
Let's live up to that name. Yeah, come on, Jesse Galley. And be a little mythological Come on, people. Jake the Myth Smith. Jake the Myth. Let's live up to that name.
Yeah, come on, Jesse Gally.
I'll be a little mythological.
Okay, yes.
You got to check this podcast out, guys,
and you're going to demand new episodes, too.
You got great comics,
and they're telling their life stories.
And it's really, really wonderful.
It's very interesting.
And Janie asks very stimulating questions.
Incisive.
Incisive questions.
Thank you. Yes, i like it and i felt
the what i'm saying what i say about the show is it it really you get to hear them really talk
like mike kelton tells this unbelievable story like a rock bottom story and it's so good i mean
refer to the podcast thank you it's so good i. And yeah, actually I would have it no other way that you guys met
on a podcast. That's like too good.
And we were talking about Tina Fey and RuPaul.
Our two number ones.
They're both your like icons.
Icons. And you know what? Janie
has recently put out
her Q2 brand
outlook, which included
such elements,
such people people figures as
rupaul beyonce which we'll get to in a minute oh won't we judy hops from zootopia a feminist icon
of our time yeah i haven't seen it yet it's transcendent yes voice by jerry goodwin yes
in a great in a great way yes um we also have dw a classic feminist hero from before even we knew what we were processing as youth.
Who else is on that? I mean, I
always have 1998 Christina Aguilera.
Like there's always going to be that space.
Absolutely. The Christina Aguilera that laughed like this.
Ha ha.
Yes, we have a lot
of producers on this record. Ha ha.
Honestly,
I think all of our listeners
know exactly what i'm talking about
that's my essential self i believe is 1998 christine aguilera fresh out the gate like
being like really shady but like not knowing her true powers of shade yeah that's my that's
the perfect compliment to my essence which is 1997 1998 britney spears who always meant
um it's really cool like Like she says, really cool.
Really cool.
Really cool.
Just like a little bit dead inside.
Just like, yeah, it's really cool.
It's already Rithering.
You can tell it's going that way.
It's going that way.
So this is actually a great segue because we like to ask our guests, what is the culture
that you feel has shaped you?
So as a young Janie.
As a young Janie.
Maybe even as a young Jane.
It was Janie. It was a young Jane what it was Janie
it was Janie always
it was Jane when I worked
in advertising
I had my corporate moment
yeah
because you're born naked
and the rest is drag
that was me in drag
serving you working girl
sure
executive realness
the culture
the culture that
what
what was the culture
that you can remember
like as a child
or as a teen or as a teen or
as a young teen that made you say like i'm interested in culture cultures for me i mean
it's always been tv for me like if i had to name my one love uh you know it would be tv and i think
it's always been somewhat unscripted like talk shows and reality shows okay yeah yeah so i
remember watching um oprah when i was way too young to know what the
download was but getting all my information there oh man yeah did oprah have a download i mean of
course she did oh she had a download episode and it was phenomenal oh man it really made me realize
to trust nobody yeah you know um you know what's funny when you just said oprah had a download
episode i was like that feels more tyra's brand well tyra had if she could make it about her yeah she would be like
i'm going undercover on the down low and then i'm gonna cry to people who are on the down low about
my experience and why am i crying to you which is what she said when she wore a fat suit and then
she had two fat people flanking her and she cried. This is so incredibly hard.
And she gets to take it off at the end.
And she's like, and now I'm back to me.
Tyra is incredible.
Yeah.
But like, remember when she won an Emmy for that show?
She won an Emmy.
She's like a daytime Emmy winner for that show.
I will never forget the episode where she pretended to have rabies.
And she walks out on stage while everyone's applauding.
And she's like, hey, guys, I'm sorry.
I'm not feeling very good.
I was running in my neighborhood and a dog bit me.
And it was.
And they were all like, oh, my God.
Absolutely.
And then she walks over to her guests who are just for some reason already.
Without introducing them, she just walks over.
Well, she drinks a bottle of water first that has like i'm assuming foam
like something that would foam some toxin some toxin because you know she was committing to it
and then and then she just pretended to go into a rabid like fucking shock and like freaked out
and it was she barked at the camera and she started barking at her audience members and
it's because her interpretation of rabies was, you become a dog.
Yeah.
I mean, truly like... She's also one of those...
The blind leading the blind there.
There's like, people who aren't that smart
think that pranks are jokes.
Yes.
They think that, like, they love April Fool's Day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're like, I'm going to scare and upset
and confuse someone instead of making them laugh.
I do love, I will say, I do love,
kiss my fat ass!
And then she immediately turns around and loses all the weight.
Yeah.
Let's stand on that platform for half a millisecond, along with Jennifer Love Hewitt, another betrayer
to our people, and just go right back down to a size zero.
Thank you for that moment when you spoke up for people who are a size zero.
I also just, I mean, anyone that says the line, it's interesting because mallory was wearing the scarf
but the scarf was wearing man mallory jennifer or whatever i was like this is and the fact that
you knew exactly what she was saying you knew and honestly it really was such a precursor to rue
absolutely there's no room if there's no that show and therefore we must be thankful we have
to be thankful and also brought like i watch all the shows. I remember Project Runway came out
and I was on board with that
and Real World I was watching from the beginning.
All the reality shows are just,
thank you so much, reality TV.
Thank you.
So you were a big Real World fan.
Oh yeah, huge.
So what would you say is the best season of Real World?
Okay, I gotta go with Hawaii
because for me,
it really shook me
and excited me and showed me that there's more
in the world I say yeah great so I loved Hawaii but I mean actually the only one that really
sticks out for me is Las Vegas with Brynn with Brynn and Trishel um and Steven and I remember
just thinking all the guys were like so hot I I remember I was like. One did porn, right?
Which one did porn?
Maybe I'm mixing up the seasons, but there was one that got in a relationship with one of them.
And the whole thing, the backstory that they weren't saying was he had done porn before.
Gay porn.
I think that was Steven and Trishel.
Yeah, wasn't it?
Honestly, that would make a lot of sense to me.
He has a perfect gay porn look.
He's very attractive.
I mean, he is like he
had like the frosted tips like six years too late you know what i mean like it's like that was very
gay and they put that hot tub right in the middle of that apartment oh man and they went for it i
mean the setups of the apartment it's like i know it's like you can fuck over here you can fuck over
here you can get really drunk here you can get it's just like how drunk they get them and also
i don't you don't still watch it right i tried to watch this season
it's so bad where are they anymore what cities are they in when i saw it they dropped them in
the desert oh no and they had to like fight fight their way to the house and they became survivor
yes but i will say quickly that explode real world uh skeletons was really good they had a house in
chicago and they would bring in people from these people's past who they didn't know were coming.
And it was just explosive fights
and people's long lost fathers
came.
It just really was...
And also, where did they sleep? They didn't have enough beds for that extra person.
So it raised so many questions in my head.
Did you watch The Challenge?
I watched it and then I fell off.
Because I don't know who these people are anymore.
In the heyday, did you watch the challenge okay so that to me was like
that hit exactly the perfect time that i think mtv was like hitting their demographic because
i was literally just like 16 17 18 years old just like bored on the weekend watching that show and
just being a young man we'll say that i get that it was so they everyone was so hot yeah they stacked
those cats with just the hottest people ever and and they were just so angry and fighting and
yelling and screaming and you're like this is what it means to be an adult i know right which
is crazy and they were just so hot it was the hottest angriest most fucked up people and you
were like this is the the future yeah that's what was the challenge
it's like real world road rules they used to take real world and road rules people and then
they have different delineations like it'd be boys versus girls or like new school versus old
school and now they have these people that at one point were just like voted on yeah and so if you
watch now it's a bunch of randos what is it called the inferno yeah you get tossed the inferno and then
it's like they fight in these challenges but there's no backstory that i'm committed to no
but they've been on multiple yeah so these are just people that are now challenge stars i now
feel like i see the same people on all their shows like remember mike the ms yes he was on
all the time what was the coral johnny bananas coral yes yeah um What's his name? Oh, man.
I literally can only describe him as a physical attribute.
I literally thought of CT as a guy with the butt.
His butt was like...
One of them, Theo, is a comedian now and his special's on Netflix and it's not appropriate.
Oh, no.
He's a pranker, if you know what I mean.
Not funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not funny, not funny.
We've already established how Janie feels about pranks. Don't do that. Don't do pranks. he's a pranker if you know what i mean not funny yeah yeah not funny not funny we already we've
already established how janie feels about pranks don't she does not like pranks you guys i didn't
grow up with cable so i never watched real world you didn't grow up with cable yes i'm i have a
whole blind spot in my my culture are there things that you caught up with yes absolutely like
especially when flavor of love and i love new york and i mean yes school were
in the heyday like i was going to going on business trips with my father was tagging along
with my dad on business trips and just staying in the hotel like in the summer and they would just
play as marathons on vh1 and i would just get caught up on the entire season in one sitting
we should say there's a staging of that episode of... That Janie is in. Oh, yeah. I mean that. Oh, yes. I play Pumpkin's mom, Terry.
Oh, my God.
I love...
I mean, born to play.
Born to play.
Tell us exactly when that is.
So this is Thursday, April...
April 28th?
28th.
Makes sense to me.
Yeah.
And it's a live staging of a Flavor of Live episode where Pumpkin spits in New York City.
Yeah.
Oh, the iconic episode.
A historic episode.
It's very silly.
There's a comedian and stuff,
and I'm really excited for it.
Who is playing New York?
I don't even remember.
Well, they have...
Here's how they're doing it.
They have,
which I think is very smart,
they have two people
playing each person.
One person for confessionals,
one person for the actual...
Right, right, right, right, right.
Okay, that's great.
I love a show
that you both are involved in, gay live on broad gay a live version of sex and city which i was thinking
of when you said you didn't grow up with cable because you understand sex in the city and that's
like you inherently understand the funniness and the silliness and the heart of it we got dvds
and so i got caught up through just you know i was i was lagging behind
but then i caught up on my college did you catch up on sex in the city no in high school like
yeah like early high school like my friends had the dvds and we would just sleep over i would sleep
over at her place and then we would just watch all of it yeah yeah um but yes did not grow up
with culture on cable so but rule number i think 55 of culture it's on cable with culture on cable. Rule number, I think, 55 of culture.
It's on cable.
Culture's on cable.
And I think you need it.
And actually, I think for our merch giveaway,
you're going to call in and we're going to give you cable.
Call in and we'll buy your cable plan for five years.
It only works for one of you.
We didn't have merch last episode but no we didn't but
that's fine yeah um but so can i ask you were you a survivor fan because i feel like survivor was
like the first yeah i was totally on board i was in love with elizabeth then falarski now hassle
bag and this must have been huge for you to watch her career unbelievable i mean i she was america's
sweetheart right so funny i remember she was like a puma shoe designer she was America's sweetheart. Right? So funny.
I remember she was like a Puma shoe designer.
She was a Puma shoe designer.
That is correct.
She went to school in Boston.
We loved her.
Boston College.
She was just so sweet and strong.
And we really liked her because she wasn't talking about politics.
Exactly.
She really was just very earnest, very intuitive.
Did you watch it?
I didn't watch Survivor.
It was on cable, but it did you watch it i didn't know cable all right so it was on cable but she was she ended up coming in fourth place and she was the last person from her tribe
which i actually remember was the kucha tribe to make it to the end and literally it was this thing
of even the people that were had the alliance against her didn't really want to vote her off
they were like i'm sorry you have to go because we have to make sure that we win but like god
bless we love you yeah and then she actually stayed in Lysicon enough to like become what we now know
as Elizabeth Hasselbeck,
which is crazy.
America's demon.
She's the worst.
I mean,
she's truly the worst.
I know,
but I did.
Okay.
I did like her on the view because she provided a somewhat,
uh,
complex contrarian opinion to the liberals on the panel.
And then they just throw on these idiots now.
And it's like,
but we talked about this last year,
the same problem,
which was like,
they just got rid of any sort of
intelligent discourse on the show.
Who is that Republican that they brought,
that conservative that they brought on
during the reboot?
Nicole Wallace.
She was great.
She was great,
but now she's on MSNBC every every now and then and i just want her
to stop talking well i actually find her to be like a really really smart reliable source and
i actually think she i she's very clearly conservative yeah but i think she provides like
helpful input sure and helpful analysis and i just wish that they would have let that be more what she
did on the view but you could tell they kind of gave her these i guess you have to be able to talk
about everything i guess but no i think but i agree with what janie's saying which is elizabeth
hasselbeck was someone who was you didn't agree with her ever but you she was so compelling yeah
she was compelling she's very very good presence and a good anchor for that panel she definitely
is a star that's for
sure i mean in terms of her personality like she was since survivor like you loved her yeah and
then when it when it came out that she like believe what she believed i was disappointed but
like i got the sense most of the time when she was on the view which by the way i mean i'm sure
like were you a huge fan of the view i I really wanted that. So when I, it was the 2008 election.
That was the,
what the show that I got from my like election coverage.
I watched,
I watched the view.
Like I would come home from my classes.
Cause at NYU,
I had like a schedule.
It was like 8am to 1045am.
And I would run back to campus and flip on the view and eat like a Dunkin
donuts bagel.
And I would listen to see what was up with the election.
That's all you needed.
And honestly, you had like Elizabeth Hasselbeck
like repping John McCain and Sherri Shepherd.
Sherri Shepherd was undecided.
That's crazy.
It was insane.
And then I remember the day after the election,
after Obama was elected, she was like,
I got in the booth and I had to do it.
And I had to turn to my son and say, no limitations.
And I'm like, yeah, I had to do it and I had to turn to my son and say no limitations and I'm like yeah
I mean
Sherry
Sherry
she claimed to be undecided
all the way up until
she got in the booth
yeah
she voted for Obama
yeah but she was undecided
well she also thought
the world was flat
she did think the world was flat
and like honestly
honest mistake
Sherry
do you think the world is round
I don't know
I would have to
I would have to do my research
I would have to think about how to feed my children.
Yes.
Oh my god. Unforgettable.
I'm thinking about how to feed my children. That's unforgettable.
That's classic television right there.
It's classic. And not on cable.
Not on cable. Don't judge me.
You're judged.
See, you're judging me. I will say that when we were growing up
cable wasn't as important.
Because most things that I got were not on cable oh i agree i agree yeah i would i actually
contrarian opinion i thought that like everything was on cable a little bit well like i was like
nickelodeon and all that shit when i was little see i don't know when anyone brings up fucking
like all that all that i barely watched i remember watching the amanda show for the first
time at a friend's house and me being like who is that girl she has my life like i want that
yeah i know she was great a lot i read a lot that reads i drew a lot thanks matt um and then i waste
of time waste of time truly did not enrich anything but then i uh what was i gonna say oh but i i feel like my so
what substituted what filled that hole for me was simple life i was obsessed oh my god i love that
wasn't on cable but it was such good reality tv you look at the editing now and it's insane it's
like every scene is like 50 sound effects it's so over the top funny but at the time we were like
yes and um
like newlyweds was the same there's some crazy editing in these shows i really liked the newly
weds and can i tell you which one i really liked was the ashley simpson show in fact i was a full
blown fan i saw her twice in concert i like oh you liked her oh i liked her i didn't know that
about you oh i was a big fan i like huge like matt I wrote a paper in high school after she was on SNL
about how we needed to leave her alone
because I had seen her in concert,
and she sang live in concert, I guess.
You're her Chris Crocker.
All right, so this is a little bit...
This is so funny.
So recently, I did...
This was like eight months ago.
I did The Rose to Your 15-Year-Old Self.
Have you guys both done that?
Yes, I've done that.
Okay, you must.
It's such a fun show.
Elise Morales.
And I wanted to get this picture that I took at the Ashley Simpson concert because Jessica
Simpson was there.
Okay.
And I got a picture with Joe Simpson.
It's me and Joe Simpson. They their gay father their gay dad and it's too good now i thought this photo with joe i have a photo with me in a
track jacket at the end of my spiked hair with highlights at the ashley simpson concert and joe
simpson has his arm around me. How old were you?
I was 15, 16, 15, 16.
Because this was like height of like rock pop.
It was like all the biggest pop stars
were like Kelly Clarkson,
Ashley Simpson, Avril Lavigne.
It was like when Lindsay Lohan had a recording career.
Good Charlotte was like rock and pop were the same thing.
The whole kind of thing.
That was when it wasn't about dance.
It was about guitars on piano.
Is this before or after you loved OAR?
This is like months before.
Is this the callback to another episode?
It is.
Because everything happens from Matt at concerts.
Let me tell you.
It almost did.
It almost did happen from me at this concert.
I mean, who knows?
But honestly, that picture would have been so good to show
at my roast. And my
ex-girlfriend from high school
is the only one I could get the picture
through because it was on someone's
Ophoto account, which let that take
you back. I didn't even use that.
It was like the way you shared pictures
because Facebook wasn't a thing.
And there was no Flickr?
There was no Shutterstock or whatever it is?
And I literally felt like such an idiot.
I was like,
does anyone know the Ophoto password?
They were like, no.
I was like, all right,
well, this Joe Simpson picture
is just going to live in the ether somewhere.
There's no hard copy?
No.
What a shame.
It just existed in that period of years
where it was like,
there were no hard copy pictures,
but also Facebook wasn't keeping track of everything so that one's just gone but
what a good picture what a good picture you need to draw it at least sit down like draw with my
memory i'm sure it's a vivid enough memory oh man but knowing how gay he became yeah yeah well matt
you've joked about going to ashley simpson concerts but you've written this i've been to two
i didn't know this was actually your reality
no I've written this like beat into sketches
she had two tours
she had like several tours
so this is I went to see Ashley Simpson
post the SNL thing
which I was watching live
I was watching live
with SNL
in college on a Saturday by the way
just so we're clear on what I was doing I was fully at home on a Saturday watching to it. I was watching live too. Yeah. In college on a Saturday, by the way, just so we're clear on what I was doing.
Yeah.
I mean,
I was,
I was fully at home on a Saturday too,
listening,
watching to it.
And I was like,
um,
what just happened?
I,
it wasn't clear what had happened.
Yeah.
Um,
but I remember like the next day the scandal came out and when she came out at the end
of the show with Jude Law and was like,
my band started playing the wrong song.
So I did a hoedown.
So I did a hoedown.
And I was like,
oh, I, she's so funny.
And then the next day, everyone was like, lip sync scandal.
I love that.
I can't believe it.
And then remember when she did the Orange Bowl and the whole stadium booed her?
That's really sad.
She got it rough.
And I did see her in concert not once but twice after that.
Can someone like that live comfortably off residuals?
Like, is she okay, you think?
Well,
let me tell you,
I saw her years later
at a bar that I worked at.
Oh.
Yeah,
this is like in 2000,
I guess 2013 or something.
Like,
a couple years ago,
I worked at this bar
in the financial district
and she stumbled in
like,
so drunk.
Oh no.
And she already had been
like a mom at this point.
I had gone through her divorce
with the guy from
Fall Out Boy,
Pete Wentz.
Pete Wentz,
yeah.
And, yeah, she didn't look good. didn't look good and then she went in the bathroom for like an hour
which we can guess what might have happened but she was like i was like i used to pay to see you
in concert i used to like love you and now you're watching her and now i'm watching her like like
like two o'clock in a bar in the financial district like fall over herself and like not know
how to get to the bathroom it was really awful yeah but i mean i hope she's okay i hope she's
okay too family is such a mess yeah yep who knew that would become what that family jessica simpson
was on a red carpet like within the past year just was drunk totally hammered and it was funny
but i'm it was it was a little worrisome it was like oh maybe maybe things aren't going well but there was a time
when remember when she was like j-lo level there was a time when she was a mogul and now i guess
she still has like shoes millions and millions of dollars you know my mom is a hairdresser and
she says that the jessica simpson hair extensions are the best in the biz well there you go quality megan kelly uses them i said i said i said when all the trump and megan kelly
shit was going on i'm like i'm sorry the star of the show was not either of them it was the megan
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I mean, it's sad.
We're talking about 2016 and I love it and everything like 2016, yay.
But you talk about the pop culture of the past and you're like, oh, what a fun time we had.
I know.
I know.
It was so fun.
It was fun.
And now it's like the culture that's shaking the world right now is Beyonce Lemonade.
And it's like, is it fun?
No.
It's not fun.
It's art.
It's not fun.
It's not fun.
It's like, I wouldn't describe it as fun.
I would describe it as actually distinctly scary.
Yeah.
We're not really going back anytime soon, I feel.
No.
No, I don't think we're going back to fun.
It's still a swing at some point.
Yeah. But not right now. I think right now we're in a nightmare pop yeah i i actually had to cover my eyes a few times during lemonade i thought something was gonna happen well we'll talk
about it that long scene where they're going down into the basement and i was like what is this and
like i don't know like she'll just randomly cut to like a shot of like some chains hanging from the, I don't know.
I thought it was very scary.
It was reminding me of the ring.
I was like, this is terrifying.
But yeah, we'll get to lemonade because this episode is about lemonade.
But I did.
We have to, we must touch on drag race.
We'll talk about reality TV.
Okay.
So Janie is an episode behind.
So I guess we're about to matter.
I guess we're going to break some news to you.
Please. So you'll get a live reaction on air... It doesn't matter. We can do it all. I guess we're going to break some news to you. Let's do it. Please.
You'll get a live reaction on air.
It was a 90-minute long episode.
Yeah, it was long.
The challenge was the yearly balls that they have.
So last season, it wasn't technically a ball, but it was the Hello Kitty challenge.
They had to do two looks.
Got it.
Do a voiceover that described their character.
And the season before that, it was the glitter ball.
And then it was the sugar ball.
So anyway, so this season's was the book ball in honor of guest judge David Sedaris.
Oh, I love him.
Amy Sedaris was there, too.
That's amazing. Amy Sedaris was the other guest judge.
And to pay homage to her, they had to stage a lip sync number to a Jerry Blank inspired.
Well, Amy Sedaris just sang a new original song about... like a lip sync number to a Jerry Blank inspired.
Well, Amy Sedaris just sang a new original song about.
And they were all dressed as Jerry Blank and like did a dance number.
And it was, it was, it was.
It's for us.
It was so for us.
And I said, you put up a status today that was like,
hi, just so you know,
anyone that can't get on board with Drag Race today,
they did a Strangers with a Candy Jerry Blank dance.
So congratulations on missing out
on the best television show
of all time.
That's the best thing
I've ever heard.
We were at a bar
with Josh Sharp
and when they broke,
when RuPaul on the show
broke that to the girls,
she was like,
and you'll have to do
a choreographed lipstick
number to Strangers
with Candy.
Yeah.
We were like,
the whole bar screamed.
We jumped up in the air
and then Josh Sharp
texted me today.
He goes,
I will never experience
the joy
of knowing it was cathartic of knowing it will be a strangers with candy challenge right yeah but
anyway so how it went down was they had to do the book ball and they had to do the first look which
was baby drag realness it had to tell a story so like the first one was they kind of came out as
like baby versions of themselves and it was like narrated as if it was a book and then the second
one was, um,
that's my mom.
That's my mom.
A realness where they had to pay homage to their own mothers.
Yeah.
And then the third one was,
um,
autobiographical.
Eleganza.
Extravaganza.
Yeah.
It was like,
and then like you come out like,
and he had,
he had to use all books to make your outfit.
Wow.
So defacing books.
Kimchi.
I'm on board.
Very fair.
Do you want? Yeah. And it was all like rupaul's books of course
like the whole time like when they were interviewing the judges they were all like the author of this
david sedaris and rupaul michelle misogynist like can i put my book and they're like no
was featured was it um but anyway kimchi won oh good because she's just like such a artist and there was a
through line in all of her looks yeah and she was the only one to do that of all those queens like
that's the person i trust to like make a dress totally yeah yeah one of those interesting looks
like that well naomi smalls looked amazing on the runway too chichi devane looked incredible
chichi devane they're all great turned it out her That's My Mama look was amazing. And Bob had been given the challenge to go ultra glam.
And I think during the construction of his dress, it fell apart.
And so he had to go out with a short dress.
And so he was in the bottom two with Derek, who tried to change up her makeup.
Do a little peplum corset.
Oh, yeah.
And then all the girls were like...
Let me tell you, as a woman, peplum's never a good choice.
Well, there you go. But then all the girls let me tell you as a woman peplum's never a good choice well there you go but then all the girls were like you need to block your eyebrows
you need to change your eyebrows because that's just making you look like britney no matter what
and derek was like okay fine but i don't know how to do that right and so they were trying to give
her all these tips but then she ended up looking insane horrible good and then her her drag looks
for the runway weren't even didn't even make sense for her. For her baby drag realness, she came out dressed as Ariel.
Like, that's not a baby.
It's not a baby.
It was so clear.
And then the lip sync was between Bob and Derek.
And Bob sent Derek right home.
Oh, thank you.
I know.
Derek was coasting.
But then there was like an emotional moment at the end where Bob turns to Derek and was
like, I respect this person.
Bob has been such a star this whole time.
Like, really, every single challenge proven
what kind of star. And so you said
before we got to the air that you kind of
you're very disenchanted with the show because
Thorgy is gone. Yeah, I love Thorgy.
I just like when I saw Derek
stay and Thorgy leave, I was upset.
I know that that was not a great episode
for Thorgy and like
I get it. I get it. But you know. You a great episode for Thorgy. And like, I get it.
I get it.
But, you know.
You know what?
If Thorgy had stayed on for this challenge, it would have been very intense for her to
do her mother.
Her mother passed away.
So that would have been really hard.
Honestly, I bet the producers were kind of banking on some of that.
Because they always do that.
They have like one part that's emotional in the episode.
It's all very convenient.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, everyone got a sob story this episode.
Oh,
they did?
There were several instances in this episode.
The sob stories are always so incredible in that show.
I mean,
this one was exceptional.
Naomi has a great moment.
Bob has a great moment.
Bob has a great moment.
Wow.
Which you never see that.
Kim has a great moment.
They all have such good moments.
I can't wait to watch it.
You must.
It's been a great season.
I don't mean to.
Oh,
so great.
I just,
when it was up and then I've been, I have to watch them online and then it was up at like you know 2 a.m and i'm
like i don't know i'll wait yeah conk out okay but great episode and the top four top four is
the best top four of all time and they're all people of color yeah wonderful and all really
different all very different yeah yeah that's so i think it's a true toss-up like i obviously have my allegiances to bob but what i was saying today was i would be kind of thrilled
to see chichi win or kim yeah i love them all they're all great i think kim is like so set
i think kim is like set for life and i really think bob is set for life i think chichi winning
would like change her whole life and i think therefore i might be pulling for her just because
i know that bob and kim are fine yeah it's like a true earned underdog narrative where it's like
no like you have grown so much you deserve this you you you've exceeded everyone's expectations
of you like you deserve this totally well anyway um speaking of us deserving this oh my god um let me tell you
um where were you when lemonade happened to you i was uh at a show at uh the annoyance theater
and then immediately when it got out i ran to vanessa's dumplings got a to-go order
took an uber home he did not stay to eat. He did not stay to eat the dumplings. Did not stay to eat the dumplings.
Take them to go.
The reception at Vanessa's was not good and I kept
trying to download my HBO Now app.
Kept trying to log in. On mobile using
your data. On mobile. Oh my god.
What sacrifices I made. Sacrifices.
So then when I got in the car I finally loaded it up
and I watched about half of it in the car.
Not half of it. Like 20 minutes of it
in the car. Got out. Ran up minutes of it in the car got out ran up
to my apartment my roommate was using the tv i said mike i have to watch this you it's really
important that i watch this and he understood he obliged and then i watched the whole thing did he
watch with you he watched parts of it with me and then he left and then he left to go to his
girlfriend's house but i was and i filled him in i was like well so far the the narrative is that
she's been you know jay-z's cheated on her and he was like, well, so far the narrative is that she's been, you know, Jay-Z's cheated on her.
And he was like, wow.
And so then we watched.
And then right at the point where she's sort of starting to forgive him was when my roommate was like, hmm.
It kind of takes the bite out of the message of, well, fuck you for cheating on me if you're going back to him.
And I was like, no.
I was like, Mike, don't say that yet.
Let me just finish this and then by the end of it i had
so many conflicting emotions so anyway that was where i was what about you well funnily enough
i was um at a tanya harding nancy kerrigan museum dedicated to the olsen twins at this point doing
a candle lighting ceremony channeling um shirley mclean to bring back her past lives oh my god so everyone was i mean yes doing culture wait the guy who runs that
matt harkins matt harkins his like cousin her sister-in-law works in my office and she
oh no way is very sweet but she will not stop talking about the tanya harding so if you're
listening to this pod in the next week and a half, it's in Brooklyn. It's phenomenal.
I gotta go.
And it's now just for the Olsen twins.
For the Olsen twins.
Yes.
I want to see the Nancy Kerrigan stuff.
So that stuff still exists, but it was in their hallway in their apartment.
And so now they've rented out a really crappy pediatric medical center that makes it so
funny because you go in and it's like a museum with gorgeous art.
This woman, I think her name is Laura Collins.
She paints the Olsen twins, Lisa Vanderpump, like these stars covering their faces.
And they're gorgeous paintings.
And they go for like 900 bucks and people are buying them.
Like they're actually running an art gallery right now.
And there's installations and they're the funniest.
So they go through and they show you and they're such charismatic, wonderful people.
So it's a great experience.
Oh my God, that's great.
And they're not doing it for money.
Like they're just taking dollar donations if you have it, but it's like all about just
wine to make it.
It's really fun.
Anyway.
So I was there.
They had me do like a candle lighting ceremony to like rid the place of haters and toxins
and so forth.
And we watched Shirley MacLaine videos in the dark.
You were doing your own art at the time.
I was doing art.
What was this?
Like the three of us.
Like there was like no one there.
So then when I knew Lemonade was coming, I was like, I have to go home. But like I'm here and I'm like in the moment. So what do I do? I went home and I found out that my roommate was having people over. It was just like the three of us. There was like no one there. So then when I knew Lemonade was coming, I was like, I have to go home.
But like I'm here and I'm like in the moment.
So what do I do?
I went home and I found out that my roommate was having people over.
It was very loud.
There was drinking.
And so I was trying to watch Lemonade and it was just like not right.
And then when they left, I sat down and I watched it.
And I feel like I was a little bit shaken.
And I was also, the texts had already come in with like the stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
So it was, I was already, my perceptions were shaped before.
Sure.
Are you,
you're,
you're,
you're,
you're sad about that?
A little bit.
Yeah.
I kind of think I love the way that it felt like a tune in experience,
which we don't have that much anymore.
Exactly.
And like all of our friends were going to be watching at the same time and
talking about it and we were going to share it.
So I was like a little sad that I had on delay and a little sad that people experienced it before me and like already kind of like telling
me i know how to feel a little bit yeah yeah not anyone's fault but i it was my fault because i had
planned the uh i mean i had to do the candlelight yes you must there's no true there's no true
appointment television anymore it's true but anyway man what about you well i i literally cleared the
night wow i was like smart we're gonna do this and because i i just remembered what beyonce the
album was to me and i'm like the fact that this could potentially be happening again i was like
this could be like the music that satiates me for like another two years another two years i know it's like let's do it and let me tell you i within
within 15 seconds i knew this is this was good that like amazing um first verse of pray you
catch me which like goes on so long and like doesn't necessarily have like a repetitive
like pattern i was like this is amazing henry was i was like
i turned to him i was like is this amazing he's like yeah this is amazing yeah and like
every song was so good and when it became clear that it was about that
woof i know i mean i i thought she surprised us so many times but this was culture
now here's my question.
Culturista.
And you brought up a little bit.
I don't know if we want to wait to get into it,
but I want to just ask you this by contrast.
There are the truthers who believe
that this is all PR,
that he didn't even,
maybe he didn't even cheat,
or that this was all a constructed story,
and that he's the proof being one
that he's making money off title.
So this whole thing is about him
and how bad he is and then you go download the album on his on his service and he makes money
and then the other thing being that like it just was so perfectly crafted that and then she forgives
him in the end like is that all somewhat constructed i think that there's a lot of assumptions about the timeline of of when
she went through this i think it's possible that she could have gone through this years ago true
you know what i mean she might not have known how to talk about something like this until much later
we don't know if he cheated on her in 2006 or 2014 we don't know if it's related to the solange
punching incident i mean rachel roy specifically right and like who knows anything we don't know if it's related to the solange punching incident i mean rachel roy
specifically right and like who knows anything we don't know yeah but the thing is like in regards
to whether or not she actually went through it or whether or not it's her actual experience
here's my perspective on it we're like making that important why is that important the art that she made or whoever
was a part of making it it's incredible yeah and like they we didn't need to used to justify like
we didn't need to know what janice joplin went through to to get peace of my heart exactly what
i mean like i just it's this thing now where because someone's a celebrity, which if you're going
to put out music, movies, be on television, whatever, you're going to be a celebrity.
It's like, because that's true, we have to like, this has to be 100% fact.
Yeah.
Why does there have to be a purity test?
Or like, why does it have to, like, there's authenticity is such a stupid, irrelevant
concept when it comes to something like this like
it's i i think i mean if we're talking about it whether or not it's our autobiographical i think
it's still so good and it's still so true to i don't know like that that journey of like
forgiveness or whatever and some people say that it's equally about tina knowles
right about how beyonce's father right cheated Knowles and about how Beyonce's father cheated on her.
And just what she's seeing big picture, like the whole history and experience of being a black woman in America.
And it's not just about her.
And in the end, it's a much bigger picture.
So maybe it doesn't matter, like you guys are saying, if it's strictly true or biographical.
It could also just be a piece of art that we can take as a story and is extremely compelling and beautiful.
And I think the fact that we're having this discussion
means that it is so personal
and it's so well executed
and it's performed so well
that the fact that we're debating it to this extent
means that it succeeded on every level.
And I think that it's
shrewd of her to use her actual husband in the video and to show clips of her father and her as
a child because she knows that everyone knows who they are she knows that this is for people that
get the narrative or think that they could get the narrative and it's just driving this thing home and actually like
i i believe in and enjoy it either way because i believe as much as it's about her it's also
about the experience of and i obviously can't speak to this and none of us can speak to this
but i feel that lemonade is about the experience of being a black woman and that's why i think it's
so great that it ends with formation.
She's like, I've been through all this stuff.
Many of us have been through all this stuff
and we're still gonna go on and be soldiers.
And we're gonna be proud
and we're gonna get in formation.
And it's just like,
it's about the experience of being someone
that's always tossed aside,
even by the men in their lives.
And that's something very unique to her perspective.
And it doesn't matter to me
whether it's 100% factual or not.
And I think she succeeded
in sort of underlining her thesis.
God, I'm using such obnoxious language.
But I feel like she was just trying to make a statement
on how misogyny and racism
are at their most powerful, even in the intimacies of a statement on how, uh, like misogyny and racism are at their most like powerful,
even in the intimacies of a marriage.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
And that's it.
And like all those,
those,
those Malcolm X quotes were all just like super,
super relevant and poignant.
And I think,
um,
God,
yeah,
I think it's,
it's,
it's such a good piece of work.
It really is.
Anyway,
like this is the girl who was booty licious.
And the fact that
she's become this it's crazy in such a short amount of time yeah and not to diminish the
value of those amazing songs that she did before beyonce which really was a turning point yeah and
that visual album i mean i lost my damn yeah come on mind wow yeah i'm still not okay no i'm still
recovering i mean that was i think that was truly that that
album was about something entirely different too because it was about really more sexuality and
owning yeah what sexuality really is so funny i was just telling my best you were talking about
we're like we were just debating whether she can have sex with her husband like the debate last
album was like is she a feminist if she has sex and it feels like that
was so long ago that was two years ago it's like crazy how much yeah we were holding her under that
scrutiny and now it's a whole different thing it's always gonna be something else but she keeps
evolving so quickly it's so exciting yeah it's so funny because people like piers morgan do you see
what he said oh my god yeah he's literally mad at her for having, because she has thoughts and opinions about the fact that she is black or
specifically,
he was mad about how she exploited all these mothers of these dead.
Like as a dumbest.
Why is he still on TV?
Oh,
exploiting the situation is literally what he does to everything.
He's a commentator.
He's a talking head.
He exploits everything for his own personal gain.
Who is he to talk? He's an idiot. Total idiot. What hat he exploits everything for his own personal gain who is he to talk he's an idiot total idiot what is he doing crazy crazy honestly like to speak to something
that like he's not intellectually or creatively capable of doing in any way i know like i know
he's he's the worst that sucks and like just everyone's it just brings me back to the whole
super bowl thing of hers like oh sheesh ah what a hypocrite oh my god wait a minute can i tell you guys a story i don't even think i don't even think
i told you this what we were doing a story pirate show at sirius xm and we were in this waiting area
like you know they put they put they put you back into this area with like some food and like
and stuff and so bowen and i are in are in uh we do shows for kids and we do shows on the radio so
we got to sirius xm and there's like a little green room,
like a green room where people sit before they do the shows and they go on
air for serious.
And there's a giant TV and on the TV was TMZ.
And then there's a,
there's a gentleman sitting on the,
on the chair next to us.
And he's just like on his phone and he's this very stylish guy.
And then I look at him and I recognize him.
Like I'm like,
I've seen him somewhere.
And then I look,
I turn it and then on the TV on TMZ is,
this is right after the super bowl.
They're talking about,
Oh,
is Beyonce,
uh,
anti-police or whatever.
And then this guy is just kind of like shaking his head.
And then I,
and then right at that moment,
it clicks.
He's the guy in the XO video who's on the roller coaster with her.
And he's Beyonce's stylist.
Wow.
I recognized him and I go,
hi,
are you and then i
at first i did some very sneaky googling of course you must i was like i need to get his name yeah
like i can't just be like are you beyonce's stylist i just wanted to like pay him the decency to like
have a name so i was like are you and i forgot i forgot his name i'm so sorry you guys but then i
was like are you this and this and that and he goes oh yeah and i go so you're beyonce's stylist
he's like and then everyone in the room like all the other story parrots are like what And I was like, are you this and this and that? And he goes, oh yeah. And I go, so you're Beyonce's stylist?
And he's like, mm-hmm.
And then everyone in the room,
like all the other story parrots are like, what?
And like right as this fucking missive against Beyonce was being aired on TV.
And I was like, what do you think about this?
And he was like, it's nuts.
Like it's not like, he styled those women.
He styled all those dancers.
He was like, it's a reference that's not
a statement like he was like i forgot what he said exactly but he was just like he didn't put too
many words to it either he was just like he just didn't care he was like no it's just ridiculous
everyone's blowing this out of proportion funny and he was there for a show like upstairs and
i was i was really starstruck i was like you're in the fucking yakso video i mean
also her style is her style i is... I know, come on.
That's crazy.
He's a culturista.
He's a culturista.
I think what inspired me, first of all, about both Super Bowl performances for her was like,
look how hard you can work and be so talented and you can do anything.
Like, you will nail it.
Those are such...
When I need inspiration, I watch those and I'm like, I can do it, even though I can't.
Yes, you can.
You can.
Janie, you're going to... Like, literally, your silhouette is going to light up in fire one day at the Super Bowl. watch those and i'm like i can do that even though i can't yeah yes you can you can janie
you're gonna like literally your silhouette's gonna light up and fire one day at the super
bowl i think you know that that is what i picture when i have to walk into a room that's high
pressure and i also walk around like that i notice my stance is constantly i'm like jaunty on the hip
with the hand do you do you stomp the runway on the streets of New York? Oh, I stomp. Yeah, I stomp the runway quite a bit, actually.
Quite a bit.
I do what...
Was it Chi Chi who said that?
I did a figure eight on them gurus.
She walks puddles around them gurus.
Walks puddles around them gurus.
But here's Carrie Bradshaw.
I strut.
I'm a strutter.
Oh, shut up, Carrie.
You know exactly what you're doing.
No, I mean, you must be that.
I know. you know exactly what you're doing no i mean you must be that i i know so she doesn't she doesn't
play down her intelligence or creativity for other people no she's gonna come out and do what's right
for her as an artist and she's not gonna worry as far as i understand about the idiots who are
gonna misinterpret things like lemonade is hard to interpret and if you go through the lyrics of
the song,
they're loaded with meaning and the poetry,
she's poetry.
Like that's way more,
it's a commercial release with Lemonade in Times Square and go to HBO and
it's free for everyone,
but she's not going to dumb it down.
She's going to make us come to her level.
And I'm so impressed by that.
And I'll,
this is something that I've been thinking about for a few days.
And like,
I would really encourage everyone to truly look herself in the face and ask
yourself this question.
Everyone who says,
well,
she's not writing those songs.
She's not creatively involved in that.
I want everyone to actually think how much of the reason you're saying that
is because she's a black woman.
So how much of your inherent bias that you don't even realize is coming out because she's a black woman who talks with maybe a southern accent?
Who like maybe presents herself in a certain way?
How much of your bias is causing you to say, well, she can't possibly be creative?
Someone, I saw some idiot and I don't know how i'm facebook friends with him post right
after lemonade came out oh well beyonce came out with a great new album we'll listen to her open
her mouth and speak and then he like commented on on his own fucking status like um oh yeah uh
she has three thoughts in her head uh total or something like just it's like you know what
kanye does this album no one says exactly
everyone else does this album even taylor swift like she she's in control of her product and wow
what an amazing young songwriter can't believe how young she is can't believe how in control of
her brand she is when it's beyonce it's like despite you know people spreading rumors about
you know her poaching material or whatever blah blah, blah, blah, whoever, like, everyone's a genius and has the intel.
Everyone has the scoop.
But, like, you're saying this about really only her and, like, the only other woman in the industry who I can think of that people talk about that way is who's on that level is Rihanna.
Well, she obviously doesn't write anything.
She doesn't do anything, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's just like you wouldn't say this about...
It's really loaded.
Also, Beyonce's the hardest working woman in entertainment.
I mean, there's no question about it.
And when Beyonce came, when her last album came out,
she put out this series of just these little confessional interviews
that were really nice.
And she was just so good in them.
And she's just talking about making the album
and she's just so articulate and intelligent
and it's like, no, you guys are choosing,
you guys are seeing what you want to see
and that like, oh, well, she's just dumb.
Which doesn't even, it's not even relevant.
She lets the work speak for herself.
Exactly.
I think sometimes her interviews from the past
haven't been great,
but the work really pops and says so much more.
And some people just also aren't interview people.
Totally. I just think she aren't interview people. Yeah.
I just think she doesn't feel comfortable doing that.
That's okay.
And like,
I think if you actually look like,
I remember years ago when,
when I think she was on like a promotional tour for maybe it was like a B day.
And it was after that.
And like her,
her clothing line was coming out or Tina knows the clothing I was coming out.
She was on all the talk shows with her mother.
She,
I just think she genuinely might not be that comfortable doing that i
remember years ago in the start of her career they were trying to have her host like the vmas
red carpet and shit it didn't seem right it didn't seem like she should be doing but like
she had a crazy manager that was her father that she eventually dumped, which was her decision. And like, I just don't know
how much wool do you think
is being pulled over your eyes?
Like,
is everything a conspiracy now?
I don't know.
Well,
like,
I don't know.
I see a lot of similarities
between her as someone
who doesn't like the press,
but as a hard worker
with another female figure,
but we won't talk about it.
We won't talk about it.
I know what you're talking about.
You know what I'm talking about?
I don't.
And what are we talking about?
We're talking about Hillary.
Oh,
sure.
For women and a big week for women haters.
Let's give it up.
Let's give it up for women haters.
I mean,
yeah,
Hillary was on a podcast off message on Politico and it was such a good pot.
She's,
she's so,
this is the most relaxed I've ever heard her.
And she was just like being real.
She was like,
listen,
I'm not a good, I'm not good at campaigning.igning yeah because i don't like to do it and meanwhile my like bill clinton barack obama it she goes they're so good at it because it's like music
to them like they love to do it they love to campaign and get people together and and then
she goes and this is so important and i'm sorry we're on this hillary tangent but no i don't care
but she goes um for the longest time she she says, for the longest time, I had trouble making
I statements.
She had trouble making things like, I want you to vote for me.
She would only ever talk.
She was like, for the longest time, I would only ever talk in terms of we, in terms of
us, in terms of, or I have no problem talking about he, she, it, us, whatever.
But she had
such a hard time like making it about her because that's just what she she internalized that over
years and years and years of being a woman who's constantly scrutinized like she's not good at this
because she doesn't care for it because it's not that important it's not natural yeah right the
campaigning is not natural it's's not, if it is,
you're very close to an egomaniac.
Yeah, look at the people who are great campaigners. Not
Barack, my love, but I mean, we're talking about
John Edwards and these real creeps.
These are like these people who can go up
and command a room and speak, but they're also kind
of narcissists. Think about
the kind of people that go for that.
You know what I mean? And, you know,
Hillary being at
the level that she is is a big symptom of her being closely related to someone that was good
at that i think it was late in her life that she maybe thought maybe i want to run for office or
actually be president of the united states i don't know for sure that before being first lady she was
thinking that way no i mean this isn't some
bullshit house of cards scenario
which people really wanted to
make it into that but it's like
how much are you going to believe
that everything is a conspiracy until you drive yourself
fucking crazy
same with the Beyonce stuff
it's like you're threatened by someone who doesn't fit
your idea of power
obtaining power and you have to
create another story around how they got there yeah it's crazy and it's like it's it's like so
you're saying so what people are saying is that literally nothing that comes out of her mouth is
genuine right why do you think she wants to be president also she does carry hot sauce in her
fucking that is true yeah there's a lot of country like why are we even talking about
we don't have to not not us i mean just like why are people upset about that i mean well i mean
the rest of that interview that she that she uh did for that for that quote was like some host
was like calling her out they were like well aren't you are you trying to pan her to black
voters and she was like well is it working like she was nervous and i don't know she like like
again she's not good at campaigning again god forbid she make any joke too i mean it working like she was nervous and i don't know she like like again she's not good
at campaigning again god forbid she make any joke too i mean it's like it's like all of a sudden like
joe biden's the only politician who can have a sense of humor nowadays like it's just like
ridiculous shut up again i i just want to tell everyone that's like talking shit about her to
shut up like just shut up you can support b Bernie without dragging her. You really can, and you look
so stupid. And I'm honestly,
it makes me so mad to this point
because now everyone posting
these Bernie statuses,
none of you are succeeding
in doing it without dragging Hillary.
And you don't really have that
good of a reason. You're not backed up.
I know. And it's
crazy. And it's gotten so
ugly like shut up also bernie voted in uh the prison bill that the clintons pushed through
congress anyway i wonder if hillary and will beyonce come out for hillary i heard that she
threw a fundraiser for her last year but it was private i heard they were like recorded there was
a video that was taped of them that exists in the world. Maybe she'll wait till it's closer to the election.
To the general?
Yeah.
Sure, sure, sure.
Maybe.
I mean, I always, I mean,
Taylor Swift could never come out
and support a candidate
because I think she's got so many widespread fans.
If she were to come out
and say she didn't support Trump,
I'm sure she'd lose 40% of her revenue.
But here's my reason
why you shouldn't vote for Trump.
Like, whatever.
Politics aside,
look at your supporters.
You have Aaron Carter.
I know. Like, who else? I mean, just like gross people like that. Gross people. Yeah,, look at your supporters. You have Aaron Carter.
Like, who else?
I mean, just like gross people like that.
Gross people. Yeah, there was other ones too.
There was another one.
I forget.
I mean, fucking Azalea Banks
who had a lot to say this week.
Azalea Banks is voting for Donald Trump.
Oh, good.
But she's also doing it
for like burn the world reasons.
But like, go ahead, Azalea.
Okay, then fun.
We're having fun with that.
Yeah.
That's fun.
Omarosa. Omarosaosa but I do love
Omarosa you gotta there's the classic interview of Omarosa and Wendy Williams you ever seen that
when Omarosa went on Wendy oh that was the shade that was the shade tree called everything that
oh the shade tree all right that was the. I'm the Lorax calling it out.
I'm saying we need the shade tree to live and where is it?
Thank you, shade Lorax.
I need another shade Lorax.
I speak for the shade tree.
We need, what was, oh, Wendy Williams.
Talking about her.
What a moment for her when that video came back of her actually talking about all the Jay-Z Beyonce stuff andce stuff and being extremely accurate what did she say after the elevator she was like here's exactly what happened
and she talked about how at the met gala uh that solange saw jay-z with rachel and was very upset
and the reason why they were in the elevator is because and she didn't do it beyonce didn't move
is because beyonce knew that there was a there was a camera and that solange was right and she didn't do it, Beyonce didn't move, it was because Beyonce knew that there was a camera and that Solange was right and didn't want to intervene.
Oh my God.
And she called the whole thing.
She said literally like, shot for shot,
here's why this is happening.
Bravo, Wendy Williams.
Wendy Williams.
She's our Nancy Drew.
She's our Nancy Drew.
She's our Nancy Drew.
And then Beyonce got in the car with Solange and not Jay.
And she did, yeah.
That's a great video.
I was a little facey, just like, oh.
Rachel Roy.
I had to design
I work at this company that sells
home furnishings and we get a lot of
these partnerships with like
fucking
cannon fodder celebrities
but Rachel Roy was one of
them and we did an office
makeover for her and I had to design
like the hero
so you designed
spots for them to fuck so i designed this is all i didn't design the architect of the affair i'm
dropping this culture news brief bowen yang is team rachel roy is team rachel roy i'm team rachel
ray well i'm team rachel right too i want i want like a. That beehive is not as smart as they should be.
But I think it's karmically, it's so satisfying because Rachel Ray is apparently a monster.
I've heard that too.
Yeah.
I believe that Kelly Ripa is a monster.
I love Kelly Ripa.
I love her.
Can I tell you something?
I've heard some shady shit about Kelly Ripa.
Have you?
Yes.
My sister worked on that show.
And she says that she's amazing.
Well, she wasn't like she was amazing, but she was like, yeah, Kelly Rupp is very nice.
You know what?
Maybe she's very nice.
I don't know.
I heard an account from my aunt.
This is a fun story.
My aunt and uncle have a good bit of money.
And their daughter raced horses.
She was an equestrian.
So she trained at this, I guess, equestrian school she trained um at this i guess equestrian school
and they were getting ready for like the competition oh you were telling me so like
kelly ripa's daughter also races horses darling oh and so like i guess they were two competing
horse schools sure and so like yep all the moms are there watching like the meat or whatever i
guess it's like what is it the derby it's call it the derby that's probably the right word for it right you know the derby by the way
we're wearing some brim hats speaking of derby janie looks stunning in her thank you so much
yeah my head is so big that it's just like a thimble on a ball it would be it would be a wrong
thing if like it looked good because we are we all look ridiculous we all look stupid anyway um at the
derby my my uh cousin went to go and her horse wants to go jump over like a hurdle which is part
of it and the horse didn't make it over the hurdle and my cousin got them from the horse and like for
a second was like kind of unconscious this is just like the simple life and the olsen twins
on that one episode of full house it all goes back around let's go
so basically like christina my cousin was thrown from the horse and like hit her head and was like
oh i guess unconscious for a minute and of course my aunt is freaked out and kelly ripa apparently
made like a bitchy comment about that's why you don't train at like wildwood or something i made
up the name but like my aunt apparently turned around but like honestly my aunt apparently turned around and gave her the business about like
her body like you're too thin oh or something like it really went for like in a way that like
those women would really not want to become when in doubt attack a woman
you look disgusting oh my god fat. That's crazy.
That's what I heard about Kelly Ripa.
Also, she did appear to be very cool.
Did you see her address?
She went on and they gave her
a good solid five minutes to address the audience.
She seemed very cool.
There are certain couples
that I keep in mind, hetero couples
that I love to just have them back my head.
Konfuelov. Andippa was that like offensive i mean like no no you guys did it i did it and i committed to it bowen's like i don't know you did it just that's it's on you to figure i mean i'm fine
with it you did just kidding i'll go down today i did an improv show for little kids and i did
what could potentially be like an offensive Latin accent.
But like, it's fine.
It's fine.
But they ate it up.
They ate it.
They loved it.
Wow.
I've done it.
I've done that accent on the UCB stage too and it was fine.
I put like a European bond fill in.
I did like a Latin accent and it was fine.
No one said anything to me.
But honestly, whatever.
I'm just going to say this.
Come for me.
Culturistas.
But the only accents I'm good at are ones that I'm not going to say this. Come for me, Culturistas. But the only accents I'm good at
are ones that I'm not allowed to do.
Yeah.
I can't do any of the accents that...
Do them all right now.
That's Matt's lot in life.
That's my lot in life.
I mean, I do them to Bowen.
He's like, okay, so the thing is,
you should never ever do that.
I'm like, okay.
What a curse.
I grew up on Long Island
where everything was offensive
and everything was also okay.
So it's like now I'm learning.
You live in that gray area.
You know,
yeah,
I live in that gray area.
But anyway,
guys,
what's the favorite track on beyond on lemonade?
Here we go.
Oh,
you know what?
I just want to,
I just want to link Hillary and Beyonce one more time.
Okay.
Both stayed with their husbands,
you know,
after infidelity.
Yes,
they did.
And that's tough for me.
It's tough for me too.
Because you,
can I say something?
Please.
During Sandcastles in Lemonade in the film,
Great song.
Great song.
I was shocked when they cut to Jay-Z.
It was shocking.
It was maybe not earned, I'm going to say.
Because that's what I'm saying.
Up until that point in the film,
and I get that that song was the inflection point in the story,
but I feel like up until that point in the film it was all about a woman's journey to through like these
very kubler rossian stages of grief and acceptance or whatever yeah i'm looking through the track
list right now to see what kind of precedes that yeah uh it's love drought love drought which is
an amazing song yeah i'll get to that later but so it's daddy lessons so i feel like daddy lessons so you have the whole first five songs
which are like pretty angry yeah like and you it sets a tone and then daddy lessons is like
well let me look actually at my life and like how things have shaken out yeah and i see what
my father's done to my mother and maybe i married into the same thing and i just i i feel like that's kind of where it's going love drought what is that song about it's um it's
it's like it's like i know you're lying but why because you and i can move we can move a mountain
we can calm calm a war down we can make it rain on this love drought like the lyrics are excellent
um but i mean yeah so sandcastles is like the turning point in the movie.
And for me, yeah, it was unearned, what Janie said.
It was all about, and I guess it's placed well.
I don't begrudge it of that.
I don't think Jay-Z should have been in it at all.
I agree.
Because it's about a woman's journey.
But he's part of her journey.
He's a huge part of her journey.
And this is where I'm going to take a contrarian stance.
I'm going to say,
you know,
this is about her first and foremost,
but he is a part of her.
And I think that,
you know,
it's,
it's up to her.
It's,
she is empowered to make the choice to forgive.
And I think that she,
that,
that in and of itself is really hard yeah and i
think yes and again another brave thing about lemonade is it opens her up to that criticism
i just love that we're talking about this in the first place yeah and that's why it's so great
it's because you know everyone has an opinion on what you do in that situation you either stand by
your man or you fucking book it and it's like this it is
interesting to think about in the lens of hillary because there's those people like carly fiorina
and other idiots that are like listen if bill clinton did what did that to me i would have
left him a long time ago that's why you can't trust her what she she's fucked up and can't
make decisions for herself and then those people it was like mid to late 90s mind you where it was very stand by your man and
honestly she's damned if she does and she's damned if she does yeah yeah it's true and with everything
in her life but especially that and now to think about this with beyonce yeah we can be upset we
can be mad and i'm happy that we're angry at jay-z and not rachel roy because let's be mad at him
yeah team rachel roy team rachel roy bowen go out by an expensive skirt there you go but the thing that we're angry at Jay-Z and not Rachel Roy because let's be mad at him. Yeah. Team Rachel Roy.
I know. Team Rachel Roy Bowen.
I'm going to go out
by an expensive skirt.
There you go.
But the thing is like,
she's opened herself up
to this criticism
and that's brave.
I know.
That's really brave.
I'm not using that word.
It always sounds sarcastic now
because we've just ruined it.
Also,
I just want to say
one more thing
about the Hillary thing
because I think another way to look at her is to actually look at her supporters her really ardent supporters in
government um there's an interview with kirsten gillibrand that james folta posted and then i
reposted and this is really a good interview this is like it It's like, maybe it's an hour and she gets really emotional
several times
throughout the interview
and she's really
in Hillary's corner
and it feels so genuine
and this is someone
that knows her
and I would just encourage people
to kind of like
check that out.
Because I really think
we're at a point now
where we're refusing
to educate ourselves.
I know.
Or to see what the other side is.
If one person says to me, I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren, I'm going to slap somebody.
Here's the thing.
Elizabeth Warren does not want to be president.
She's not running for president.
She will never run for president.
And this delusion people have that she's going to be chosen as the VP, let it go.
If she wanted to be in the white house
she would have made that decision she's not going to put herself in a place where she's a heartbeat
away from the white house if she doesn't want to be president and it's a very telling choice of her
not to endorse either candidate yeah i think so too she would have she would have endorsed bernie
ages ago if like it was if she was totally on board with him yeah because she has her reasons
not to be i think she genuinely is on the...
I think she's on the right side of everything.
And I think...
Love her.
I think you can make the argument
that both of them as candidates have flaws.
I mean...
They're both insane.
She's the Solange.
Something really important.
I feel like Elizabeth Warren's the Solange
because she is right.
She's passionate.
She's Solange and Wendy Williams.
And she punched Jay-Z.
She's also, what?
Ooh.
Yes.
She punched Jay-Z.
No, I made that up.
No, remember?
But imagine if Elizabeth Warren.
Imagine.
No, yeah, imagine.
Actually, rule number 90 of culture, Elizabeth Warren punched Jay-Z.
It's a rule.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a rule.
We actually are going to be creating here on Let's Coast Reads this, a gif of Elizabeth
Warren punching Jay-Z. I'll make it happen. And it's going to be all over. Good luck making that. I think, yeah, it's going to be um creating here on let's close to reese that's a gif of elizabeth warren punching jc i'll make it happen all over making that i think yeah it's gonna be it'll be incendiary
um but yeah i mean the one thing that's really important to me in the election and kirsten
gillibrand gets really emotional about this is guns yeah and i'm sorry bernie bernie is not as
good as hillary on guns and you can't convince me otherwise. I don't care about what you say about his NRA rating.
No.
I don't.
No.
No.
I'm trying to figure out who he'd be as a pop star, but it's not really translating.
Okay.
We actually did this for a second.
Oh, you did?
For Drag Race?
Oh, for pop stars.
For pop stars, I think.
Who do we do?
I don't remember this.
Katy Perry is Hillary.
No.
I don't know.
Oh, no.
It's too fun to be Hillary.
Oh, no.
Joel Kim Booster's done this.
Hillary is Taylor Swift and Bernie is Carly Rae Jepsen.
That's so insane. I don't see that at all.
I know Joel's giving that edge
to Carly Rae Jepsen there, though,
so I'm not totally on board.
Interesting. Carly?
Well, because, I mean, like,
this was back when Joel was more...
Who's Trump?
Rita Ora?
Trump is Rita Ora.
It doesn't make any sense.
This was back when Joel was more Bernie-leaning, and Joel was, like, standing for Carly Rae
Jepsen and hating on Taylor.
So for him, it was very neat of him to...
Trump is, like, three doors down.
Some people must move from the dog just because...
What did you say, Jamie?
Trump is three doors down.
Three doors down.
I'm here without you, baby like no go away do you know what
song came out of work the other day which is actually a jam oh what kryptonite oh i hate that
oh no no disgusting call me superman i'm down no reprehensible i mean maybe um guys look we are
nearing the end and we have to hit a couple segments.
Oh, yes.
So, Janie, you're a fan of the show.
Our people that are fans of the show, we know we have one of our favorite segments.
This is called I Don't Think So, Honey.
This is when we have put 60 seconds on the clock and you have 60 seconds to rail against
something in culture or something that's affecting you culturally in any
way using the term i don't think so honey as much as you can and it should be impassioned and it's
to be a full thought missive it should be a missive now bowen do you have something that
you want to talk about i don't do you i think i think one of us should start so that janie can
can see how it's i think that one of us should begin and i i can go first. You want to go first? Okay. I'll be a woman and a clock
whenever you start.
Okay.
And I am...
I am...
ready.
Great.
I don't think so, honey.
The F train on a Sunday night.
Let me tell you something, F.
I have to get home.
And all of a sudden,
it's like,
it's after 7 p.m. on a Sunday
and you're taking a break well guess what
you work for me honey i don't think so you don't get to take break unless i say i would rather you
take a break quite honestly in the middle of the day in the middle of the work day we need you at
these times all right you need to be there for me when i need to get home to seventh avenue off the
fg and guess what how come i have to transfer so many times to get home, honey?
I don't think so.
I'm tired of hopping to the A, to the C, to the B, to the F, to the G, to the C, T, T, T, T.
I don't want to, honey.
I don't want to transfer no more.
I don't want to be a player no more.
Honey, you're too much.
And how come I'm getting stuck?
I want, when I'm in the subway next i'm they're gonna say who's
gonna stop this and i'm gonna say me and then i want fight song by rachel platten to play
and i'm gonna say no more mtv because i don't think so honey that's one minute
i think i think that really is gonna change things that was great you lost a little bit
of steam towards the end no i think i got more firm you got more firm i think i got
stronger and that was really good i like when you just went like what why do i get stuck
oh man whitney that's great that's great come on bowen i had to think it went on the spot i had to
speak from the heart okay i'm a little disappointed with my with my i have a that's great i have a similar one well no no no i don't oh wait stop stop stop
i really don't i can do one all right you want to do one i'm ready i'm sorry
all right no you go you go it is time and it begins now i don't see the time i'm like nervous
and go i don't think so honey to the current state of brand integration on the housewives I'm like nervous. All right, hold on. I'll start over. Here we go. And go.
I don't think so, honey.
To the current state of brand integration on the Housewives franchise, because it started out with Bethany and she knew what she was doing.
Even before she knew, she knew what she was doing.
She built Skinny Girl into a $110 million sale to Jimmy on her own.
She was hawking muffins in a grocery store season one of Real Housewives
New York. Now we get these women
thinking they're so savvy. We see through
all of it. I'm not buying your rock that
you say is a jewel. I'm not
buying your toaster oven that's going to set my
house on fire, Sonia. I'm not buying
the third iteration of a drink now
called Tipsy Girl.
I see through you.
And I'm sorry, I'm also not buying the bravo
sponsorship with soul cycle where you go to habitat for humanity afterwards i'm on board
with habitat and i think it cheapens their brand and their integrity soul cycle should be ashamed
of themselves i think that they should be ashamed of themselves for many reasons but one of them is
that they are horrible and i don't think so, honey. One minute is up.
Wow, you did it.
You did it, honey.
I think that, and you know what?
Truly attacked culture.
It attacked culture.
And I think now people are going to be more aware.
Yeah.
Because I don't know that everyone has really thought about the spiraling out of control.
Sometimes your tears baptize your pain and your suffering.
A la Beyonce.
Sometimes it's just having a minute on the clock and just saying anything.
Whatever you want.
That's cleansing.
You and me could start a love drought, I think.
Are you doing one? I'm doing one.
I'm still stumped.
Well, Bowen, I don't know what to say.
I don't think so, honey.
Honey, I've got something.
All right, here we go.
I don't think so, honey. People who keep squatting
in meeting rooms and conference rooms right after they've been booked well past their booking time.
I cannot hover outside and be a vulture for you and just wait and shoot you mean eyes and say, well, it's time.
And then I have to be – the onus is on me to open up the door, crack it open, and peek in and be like we have the room i don't think so honey because you know what it's not on me it's on you talking about
rehearsal rooms conference conference rooms at work and at your office or anywhere you know any
kind of scheduled space you cannot hold the space for longer than you're allotted time because this
is done this is done excuse me this is my i don. This is my I don't think so, honey.
I don't think so, honey, Matt Rogers.
I don't think so, honey,
people who cut into my space,
who take up space for designated space for me.
This is exactly what is wrong with society.
We have a society that runs on rules.
Janie, you do not take up space for me.
I don't think so, honey, Janie.
And that is one minute, honey.
You were the culture being under attack there, I think.
I truly was.
That was incredible.
I think that Bowen Yang is a huge part of culture.
And I think that I attacked him.
I think that Janie attacked him.
Absolutely.
I think that's how you know it's worth talking about.
You proved my point.
We did.
And you still, you peeked your head out and you said, not right now.
But listen, I know because this is the opposite.
I had the conference room, but you two were the ones who peeked your head in when you
did not have the room booked.
Honey.
Honey.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
All of our clocks are set at different times.
You're right.
Someone's time up is not your time up.
Unless you have the universal clock, honey.
This is a victim clock blaming scenario.
You're ridiculous.
You're all filth.
Just disgusting. I hate you. Just wears the shade. You're ridiculous. You're all filth. You're just disgusting.
I hate you.
Just wears the shade.
I hate you.
Can I just say,
I hate you.
I hate Matt Rogers.
I hate Bowen.
I hate you.
I hate Janie Stolar.
I hate our producer, Joe.
I hate Joe.
I hate everything.
No, we love it.
Actually, guys,
it's time.
Janie's really, truly affected.
Oh, my God.
What do you have to say?
I thought this was a safe space.
It is.
It is.
Can I tell you?
That was all a bit.
And also now,
thank God,
bits I have relief.
Also,
and I just want to say,
it's time to do culture of the week.
So this is when we choose our favorite culture.
Joe.
Our favorite culture of the week.
The best thing that's happening in culture this week for you
besides lemonade besides lemonade which this is going to be a tough uh tough task i know how do
you top a lemonade i think you can listen to me in bones culture of the week and then you can make
a decision i actually know right away what i'm going to say go ahead um you know my culture of
the week are uh onride photos at Disney World.
Disney Photo Pass.
Disney photos.
And I think it's so amazing what you can do
when you're on a ride at Disney
in terms of enjoyment, in terms of experience.
But what's really incredible
is what you can take home with you,
aka the merch.
Yes.
And so this is not only just merch
for the sake of having merch,
which of course, that's why it exists.
Rule number 183 of culture,
merch is merch.
Merch is merch. Don't question the merch. So yeah, and I think, that's why it exists. Rule number 183 of culture, merch is merch.
Don't question the merch.
So yeah,
and I think now you have a visual memory.
I'd like to hearken back to a time when we were on Rockin' Roller Coaster
and we got a truly great picture taken
of me, you, and David,
our guest last week.
It was a wonderful photo
and we were able to buy it.
And I think that was so smart of Disney
to sell something yes
because as you know and i just would like to really caution everyone don't spend your money
anywhere else but disney they need your money you know what pranks aren't funny photos on
roller coasters funny hilarious so funny and also the different kinds of faces that you can do in
the pictures they're fine you can do a serious face. You can do a really
big over the top face.
I've seen people
do sexy faces.
and there aren't
where it's like
I just want to see
funny faces.
Yeah, I want to see
more funny faces
in these photos.
I want to see more faces
of all kinds.
I want to see you
buying these on-ride photos.
You know what's funny?
Do the right thing
with your money.
Knowing when
in the roller coaster
or in the ride
the camera is.
It's so fun to know.
To know it.
It's so fun to know that. 100 it. It's so fun to know that.
100%.
So that's my culture of the week.
That's great.
Photographs that you can buy at Disney World,
on-ride photographs.
Great.
Amazing.
Well, my culture of the week has to be
the ice cream parlor in the Magic Kingdom of Disney World.
Yeah.
Explain to our listeners.
Listen, when they're trying to you know shoo away
all of the um patrons and guests at the magic kingdom um you know the ice cream parlor bravely
stays open until about 1 30 a.m and i believe when matt and i went with our friend david
um as we were making our exit from the park the ice cream parlor was open and they serve you a variety of-
There are so many flavors of ice cream.
So many flavors of ice cream.
First, let me say.
In the world.
In the world and at the ice cream parlor and there are a variety of cones, whether it's
waffle or sugar.
Oh, my.
You can get your ice cream on a waffle cone, on a sugar cone, on a wafer cone.
On a wafer cone.
Or in a cup.
Or in a dipped cone.
Or in a plain cup.
That's right.
Now we're talking.
You can eat ice cream with a spoon.
You can eat just with your mouth.
You can eat it with...
No one's going to judge you.
Absolutely.
And it's at Disney World.
It's at Disney World,
which is the best part.
I love that.
Yeah.
So, Janie,
what is your culture of the week?
My culture of the week
is at Disney World.
Yes.
When you are looking
for something to do in your room
and you've had a nice day,
you can look at this Twitter account.
That's just called everything goats,
goats,
pictures of baby goats.
And I think goats are the new cat slash dog.
Like they really,
I think you're right.
It started with the screaming goat.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
You know what?
It was,
it was dogs and cats.
And then for a second for just,
it was such a small window,
but little tiny miniature pigs.
Yes, they had a moment. They scared me a little.
A little scary. They seemed unhealthy.
They seemed like forced.
Their metabolisms are probably very abnormal.
Yeah, abnormal. They cannot tolerate gluten
etc. Exactly. But the
goat is something else.
The goat is a dorb. It runs
sideways. It screams at inappropriate
times. It eats things.
Some people have them in their homes, which raises so many questions.
Loving goats.
And there's a great Twitter where it's just like, it's like haters go to hate and it's a goat wearing sunglasses.
So at Disney.
Is it haters goat to hate?
Now I'm thinking and it doesn't make sense.
Janie, where would you place everything goats?
Everybody goats?
Everything goats? I want it to be everybody goats everybody i think it's everything 100 goats i'm not quite
sure anything goes the world has gotten goats today and goats bet anyway so is this um i just
want to do a shout out a disney shout out to brady o'callaghan radio cal who's living his
goddamn life on this vacation and thank you for doing it without an inch of irony. He's posting such great photos from his trip.
Fun.
So fun.
Other people in the community who just fully earnestly embrace Disney.
Michael Hartney.
Michael Hartney.
Jason Gore.
Kristen Bartlett.
Rachel Chapman.
Love them.
I'm uninitiated.
Oh, really?
Have you never been?
When I was a baby.
You must go back.
So I feel as if maybe there's like a huge Disney trip to be taken.
I mean, like maybe we must.
And then we'll do a series called Four Nights in Orlando.
Four Nights in Orlando 2.
Oh my God, the sequel.
Oh my God.
Which is my favorite Instagram series.
Thank you, Janie.
Thank you, the favorite of many.
Oh man.
Well, gosh.
I mean, this has been such a fun episode.
We talked real real we talked fun
you know what that's how to go it's we have to go culture is all about shaking it up getting a
little bit real having a little bit of fun and making sure we all take it the same amount of
seriousness right so eloquently put so eloquently put and listen when you have a real when you have it fun
you have to take it with the same seriousness all right guys my thanks and bowen's thanks to
janie stolar thank you and i really want to i want to because are you at janie stolar i'm at
janie fierce janie fierce it's a sasha fierce reference yes i mean yeah of course which is
why you earned your spot on this particular episode.
This Lemonade episode.
I stand for the hive.
I really want to
plug two things.
Lemonade,
the new album by Beyonce.
Check it out.
If you haven't heard of it,
it's real cool.
And a spank going up
this Friday,
Murder by Spirit Stick.
Murder by Spirit Stick.
Which I co-wrote
with my good friend
Carly Ann Philbin.
Nice.
And Bowen Yang
features in it.
Featured. And it will be up features in it. Great. Featured.
And it will be up at 6 p.m. at UCB.
What do you want to plug?
I want to plug...
Oh, gosh.
I don't have that much to plug.
Oh, well, if you're in L.A. on May 10th,
I will be hosting an old variety show of mine
called Ethnic Realness
with my very good friend Oscar Montoya.
We're on the same coast.
It's a gay blood moon. I love coast. It's a gay blood moon.
I love that.
It's a gay blood moon.
Any plugs besides?
I guess just female gays May 4th.
We have stretches with reality,
people who have met reality stars.
Timothy Dunn.
Timothy Dunn has met Miss New York
and Jason Gore who auditioned for Real World.
No.
Yes.
That is a story that,
a story like that has never been told.
He met her boyfriend named
dj bucky blends so i have so many questions wow dj bucky blends guys so many shows to see on both
coasts and i can't wait to see you at all of them oh my god let's call it reasons we had fun we had
fun and we took it with all all the we all the same seriousness thank you janie still are we love
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