Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "LiterallySisterLife#" (w/ Aidy Bryant)

Episode Date: March 25, 2020

Matt and Bowen are joined by Queen Angel, Ms. Aidy Bryant! Itā€™s a rollicking ride of an episode that starts off with a nutso Bill Clinton impression and bobs and weaves from there into uncharted ter...ritory. Topics include local commercial jingles, awards show screeners, starting out at SNL, and Mattā€™s two-day shoot as a ā€œhard recurringā€ character on Aidyā€™s wonderful show ā€œShrillā€ on Hulu. Also a three-for-three batch of primo I Donā€™t Think So Honeyā€™s await! Remember to subscribe to Las Culturistas right here on iHeart Radio! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:41 And that was the piece of culture where everyone was attacking us, attacking us online. For not. And saying, how dare you not be recording episodes when Cats is happening. I literally was like, how did we miss it? It was monumental. Well, I feel like it wasn't even bad enough for us to like talk about in some ironic way though. And I had to preserve my whole
Starting point is 00:03:05 relationship with cats that i've maintained for my whole life which is that i've never seen it we'll never see it um have you not seen the movie no and but i know i know everything about it but i will never see it any incarnation you know everything about it a lot what's can you sing a little bit of beautiful ghosts for us please well that's that's not real that's not canon that's taylor are you that's taylor and andrew lloyd webber and miss webber and miss webber taylor webber taylor webber okay what do you want to talk about with cats i just bowen you're being like you're being like rude oh my god you're actually being really rude okay literally it's rude that we talk about cats all the time and then i say oh my god can you believe this and you say i didn't even care i'm sorry i didn't mean to shoot your enthusiasm
Starting point is 00:03:51 down i accept your apology okay so what do you let's talk about it what are you you went to see it's very stone judy dutch had her human hands yes but none of the other cats did unconfirmed i think the other cats had their hands well i'll say'll say Judi Dench had her hands. It was like, it was like, it was like they said on set before they got that shot. And definitely show your hands because they're gonna be animated. Because she's like this. Sure. Holding her
Starting point is 00:04:15 hands basically in front of her face. Just like singing. They went up to Judi. They were like, Judi, can we put the motion, the mocap balls on your hands? And she was like absolutely not yeah and in fact I will be placing them at my at my own decolletage
Starting point is 00:04:32 level just to show everyone that I would have no part of the digital technology it would have been fine I feel if she had not had her wedding ring on because yes because then once you see the wedding ring you're like okay so where's the cat's husband? Like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:04:47 How long have they been together? Because the cat then has a history that we want to know about because she is the most exciting character. Judy Dent. Judy Dent. We all remember her name.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Old Deuteronomy. Old Deuteronomy. I actually didn't until it came out. No, it did. She played Old Deut. Oh, yeah, she's Old Deut. The first woman Old Deut.
Starting point is 00:05:07 The first. And there had never been another woman old dudes i think it's crazy that the academy shortlisted cats for special effects or whatever that that category is even though it was an unfinished well it didn't short short special effects movie i know it yes that's true what do we think of oh we talked about best original song uh in the Culture Catch-Up episode. Beautiful Ghost, do you feel like it was snubbed? I would say that it's hard because Beautiful Ghost is not a good song, but nothing that was performed at the Oscars was.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So then you get to the thing of like, well, you want to at least see Taylor on stage doing Beautiful Ghost. That was Taylor's bid to be on the Dolby Theater stage. But she'll have more bids, many more bids. She will. She will.
Starting point is 00:05:46 What do you think is next for her in terms of film, in terms of musicals? In terms of film, what do I think is next for Taylor Swift? Well, The Giver 2.
Starting point is 00:05:53 The Giver 2. They'll do a Chicago reboot next spring, I'm sure. She's gonna play Hillary in the film about Hillary's life. Yes. It's gonna actually
Starting point is 00:06:02 be about the, it's gonna be about, it's gonna be called Hill and Bill. And that's actually a romantic comedy about a young serious student named Hillary Rodham, who was one they swept actually right off her feet when she met an amazing next president. Whose name was Bill.
Starting point is 00:06:19 His name was Bill. Clinton, actually. And what school did they meet at? And they met at Arkansas State. That's where they, because that's where Bill and Hillary both went. That's true. And, you know, meet at? And they met at Arkansas State. That's where they, because that's where Bill and Hillary both went. That's true. And, you know, the film takes a little bit of liberties.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Like, she's platinum blonde in the film. And he's got, like, very big muscles because Taylor actually plays Hillary. And Scott Eastwood plays Bill. And Scott Eastwood plays Bill. Because they said, let's get the most talented actor. Let's reunite them from on the street. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And they said, we have to get the best actors for this. Hill and Bill. We got to make it. And you know the classic scene from the trailer. Oh, yes. Let's quote it. Yeah. I feel like this conversation is just starting.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And I feel like you get those jowls up, girl. My what? You're pretty behind those jowls. Let me grab those boobs. those jowls up, girl. My what? You're pretty behind those jowls. Let me grab those boobs. My jowls? Yes, and see. Wow, he wasn't kind to her from the beginning, we find out in the film.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And you know what? She should have left him. It's a rom-com. People make jokes about how it's playful ribbing about how the other person's ugly. That's what rom-coms are. I can't believe they picked that scene for the trailer. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That's crazy. That's, like I said, the most famous scene from the trailer. It is the most famous scene from the trailer. Now, readers, people who can Photoshop the poster, please do it. Hill and Bill. Because there's also a scene later of her at the dnc and she says women and the glass ceiling our guest has her balm on her on her mouth here's the deal with our guest and there is a deal oh there's every deal we were just saying off the air that there
Starting point is 00:08:00 has been years of scheduling mishaps this This actually is in the industry of Hollywood. It's something that people talk about. Yes. How they haven't been able to get the scheduling together for this today. I think they call it development hell. Yeah, this episode has been in development hell, but so happy,
Starting point is 00:08:18 and I can clap both my hands together like this, so happy that we could finally develop what should have been developed many years ago. But unfortunately it was then in hell. But I actually think that this is coming right on time. Oh yeah, because it's because it's always right on time. Christmas! Because it's Christmas.
Starting point is 00:08:35 No, it's literally, when is this coming out? March. It's mid-March. It's mid-March. I'm 30 on this episode. Oh my god. That's cool. I'm not 30 now recording, but I will be 30 when this comes out. When this comes out, you'll be 30. Everyone wish Matt a happy 30th. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Thanks. But our guest. Our guest. I love our guest with a purity and a passion. Truly. You would diagnose yourself as loving her with a purity. With a purity? Yeah, okay, good.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I could cry i i could cry i could cry and but you won't but i won't and this this is i'm looking at you you're not gonna cry you're not gonna cry she she truly is the best um emmy nominated honey never forget never forget and it's about the prizes and it's about the prizes that's what she actually said that um when i first met her i was like hey and she was like it look unless you can help me get ahead it's um i'm in this for an emmy it's about oh my god uh okay of course uh i was like let me uh matt by the way and she was like this is this what and she said whatever you say to me right now doesn't matter oh my god yeah that sounds like her yeah that sounds just like her no just kidding she was really nice on me she's an angel of angels she um is uh starring in season two of shrill
Starting point is 00:09:52 please watch it on hulu and one of the other shows that she's on is saturday night live which is a variety sketch program yes broadcast live from new york yes almost every saturday night almost some some breaks 21 weeks out of the year? Yeah. It's going on for upwards of 30 seasons. Yes. It's over 30, remember. Over 30.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Of seasons, that it is. I can't wait for this. I'm so, so excited. Exploding. I'm exploding. I love her so much. Everyone, welcome into your ears. Aidy Bryant!
Starting point is 00:10:25 Oh my God. You know, I'm such a listener to the pod. No, don't listen. Don't stop. That to be here
Starting point is 00:10:34 and like actually sit through the intro, which I have like listened to so many others sit through before, was just how I imagined it would be. Was it?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Was it scary? Was it chaotic? Terrifying? Chaotic. You know, it's always a little ride. I imagined it would be. Was it? Was it chaotic and terrifying? Yeah. You know, it's always a little ride. I loved it. And we do land. We do land. We land.
Starting point is 00:10:51 We stick it in the warmth of a guest. I also like, you guys like do a good job of straddling like the credits, but also kind of like the human element. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, it's like what we want to get across is our guest is talented, but our guest is a human being too. It's really important to get across because a lot of these people, they think stars,
Starting point is 00:11:12 they put them on a pedestal. Of course. Because you see them all dressed up and you see them all dolled up on TV and you think, I bet that person really has it all. And I did full hair and makeup for this. Thank God hair and makeup for this. Thank God. Thank you for this. You're contoured.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Because she knows podcasts are a visual medium. Yeah, of course. Now, Aidy, did I say something in the Hill and Bill trailer that made you specifically put your hand over your mouth? I think it was the jowls. I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:11:43 It's Bill! I think also that it was like, shit like that's tough it's Bill but yeah I think also that it was like you guys were like it's a romcom but then he starts with the jowls
Starting point is 00:11:51 and I assume it ends with him like fucking a 13 year old with Jeffrey Epstein I think that's what it is yeah I think that honestly I didn't know this
Starting point is 00:11:59 but this romcom is a lot darker than we thought it's about how in every interaction they've had he insults her he insults her. He insults her,
Starting point is 00:12:06 but then Jeffrey Epstein, played by... Me? Matthew McConaughey. Played by Aidy Bryant. Well, I'm sorry, I messed up. Matthew McConaughey auditioned and was cast. Was cast.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And then Aidy just called and said she wanted to do it, and they cast her. And they cast her, absolutely. And they were like, she'd be a better Epstein. I was also shocked by like, Bowen, you have a good Clinton.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah, well. But like, that was a rock hard Clinton. No. That was a rock hard erect Clinton. Don't even. Well, that's actually, actually, run runner for title of Ep is gonna be rock hard Clinton.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It actually, and it's actually not up to me. It's actually our producer um anna she said she just piped into my ear oh piped in yeah i get that i get that i actually have a permanent chip put in my ear where i can have producers at any time talk to me i love it i love it i love it now ad what is your vibe in la because i this is i'm seeing you in a different setting and i really i'm picking up in a different setting and I really,
Starting point is 00:13:05 I'm picking up on a different energy. Oh yeah. Thank you so much. I've been waiting for this question from anyone for a week. What's your LA vibe? I think my LA vibe is like pretty high. Like I'm doing like a lot of like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:13:21 I got to get to this dispensary and that dispensary. But I'm also like very um i'm i'm like cash yeah i think i'm pretty cash in a way that like in new york you're gonna see me in a boot yeah not that i'm formal but it's a boot city yeah and i feel like here i'm like i'm in my vans hanging 10 exactly you can wear flat shoes out here and no one yells. Yeah. Yeah. No one's like,
Starting point is 00:13:47 that woman needs to be in a heel or a boot. Sure. But then the bag culture in LA is crazy. Cause if you're walking down the street, I've said this before with a tote bag, God forbid, then you get the craziest looks and people can actually smell the foreignness on you. I see.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And there's no backpack people in Los Angeles. And I do definitely feel that people are clocking, like, you don't belong here you fucking bitch. To you? Yeah. Why? Do you think it's because they think you're a fucking bitch or because they have seen you associated with New York so many times?
Starting point is 00:14:20 I think it's, I'm famously a New Yorker. No, no, no. I do think it is just it's i'm famously in new york yeah no no no i do think it is just um it's like we wear too much black yeah and like we're a little too dressed up yeah i don't know i feel like i go to like a friend's birthday and i'm like i look like i'm in a goddamn ball gown and i'm humiliated listen it is it you do have to adjust to the thing in la of like my friends will get ready for like a lunch and it is a capital a capital l lunch i mean we're going to a place but we're wearing like like truly like socks and a sandal yeah and like a big shirt and no we didn't take do a shower so our hair is weird
Starting point is 00:14:57 you know what i mean like and you can go out like that in los angeles it is a thing i think people find that charming in los angeles yes that That's true. Whereas in New York, I, yeah. I love that this is exactly where we started with the podcast. It's like, how is LA and New York different? I asked you what's your LA vibe? Why are you laughing?
Starting point is 00:15:18 That's an earnest question. Honey. Oh my god. It's good. It's good. We love LA, and actually I think to myself every damn day how happy I am that I live six minutes away from the Universal Studios Hollywood. I pass it on the way to work and I see Hogwarts. That's perfect for you. There's no Hogwarts in New York.
Starting point is 00:15:37 That's true. No. No. Were you about to say something? Was I? I don't know. I was just having a nice time talking about how I have two friends who have been hosts and winners at major awards.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Wow. Because it's about the prizes. Did you write an Emmy speech when you were nominated? No, I didn't. Amy Puller gets mad when people don't do that. She says it in her book. Really? She says, I always feel like it's crazy when people don't write a speech.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I remember that was the only part of Yes, Please! But I get why. I get why. I was just like, no way am I going to win. But you could have been the and-out that night. Wow. But I wasn't. To be the and-out.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I don't know. I mean, God bless the Emmys. It means everything to everyone everywhere. But I kind of, and I know that like this show is often about talking about who was nominated and whatever but like I do find it to be like absolutely toxic it's a horror and like it's a hellish thing yeah yeah and you know I don't know I was just talking about this with someone the other day where like sometimes if you look back at like past winners you're like oh this is not darkly meaningless yes yeah i don't know darkly
Starting point is 00:16:49 i'm like literally sometimes i will hear like when you did um andy cohen and he asked what you thought about something someone did you said three words which were like so just your grasp of vocabulary sometimes i actually go actually go in a way. The economy of words. You have a way with words. You just said, I want this on paper. I do find it to be an absolutely, and then I honestly stopped because I needed to,
Starting point is 00:17:16 but what did you just, the way you just described, horror-filled, hellish, toxic and hellish. That's what you said. I do find it to be an absolutely toxic and hellish thing imagine that pull quote glamour
Starting point is 00:17:28 darkly darkly meaningless Aidy Bryant on the Emmy Awards wow I do find it to be don't do this do not do this to me Matt
Starting point is 00:17:36 do not don't Hulu and NBC will have my head it means everything she said that she said that in the same pull quote. It's amazing. This woman is all over the
Starting point is 00:17:47 world. I am nothing without the industry. I need it. If they value me, I'm better as a person. Oh, God. They make me sick. The industry? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:03 That's what I think. They make me sick. I do think that's what I the industry they make me sick I do think it's like absolutely dangerous to yes well first I'll say this
Starting point is 00:18:10 fame is a disease yeah for sure that is killing everyone who experiences it okay people who don't even experience it
Starting point is 00:18:17 it's killing that's right and I've maybe never identified more with anyone than Britney Spears in the moment when she like shaved
Starting point is 00:18:25 her head yes like i often through the smallest things i'm like that's it yep get the clippers bye fuckers i'm going to the woods i can't do this anymore oh my god but at the same time it's like you can't disengage yes it's like if i't... Disengage. Yes, it's like if I... I don't know. If I engaged too deeply with the women of the year or the glamour or any website or any... Girlboss Award goes too. It's like... It's a dark thing to chase, I think.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's Waham. It's Waham. I was thinking about Waham the whole time. It's a lot of Waham. Yeah. I'm a little biased. It's my favorite. It's Waham. I was thinking about Waham the whole time. It's a lot of Waham. Yeah. I'm a little biased. It's my favorite episode of season two of Shrill. Written by one and only Soupy Green.
Starting point is 00:19:11 The Soupy Soupy herself. Starring Matt Rogers. Starring, of course. Come on. I was the lead. Lead? Lead Matt Rogers? Wait, I realized something before.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And Matt has a huge onset energy, I gotta say. Yes, tell me about this day, because I only heard bits and pieces of it. Well, it was two days. Oh! They called me a hard recurring. Actually, when you look at the credits, it says also starring, guest star.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Mine said hard recur. Hard recur, Matt Rogers. That refers to your rock hard cock rock hard Clinton my rock hard Clinton I am going to start calling my penis my Clinton
Starting point is 00:19:50 that's actually up to you how you feel it's none of my business you know how you feel this is a crazy episode so but I just want to say
Starting point is 00:19:59 I did come in a little hot because like I said Sudi and I were at Universal Studios Hollywood and we did talk about the darkness of fame on the way in wow yes we were talking about lindsey lohan and saying you want to know what it's because she wasn't surrounded by good people so that was what we said as we were like scanning our tickets to go on the transformers ride i said this to you yesterday i was like my
Starting point is 00:20:18 theory is that lindsey i that lindsey was not surrounded by good gays specifically she had bad gays you said this and gays. You said this. And then today we were talking about how. Okay, quickly this. And then I want to say the thing I found out on the set of Shrill. Oh my God. He's doing so much paper and pen work. You guys don't even know.
Starting point is 00:20:37 This is our first time with notepads. I've literally never once used a notepad. I'm actively using it this episode. I know. And every time I'm like, okay, something big's going on. Something big's coming. So, Sudi and I were saying that when you're in any way involved in entertainment and the famousness aspect of it becomes a thing, you really have to ask yourself why you're doing
Starting point is 00:20:58 it. Yes. And I think people who don't know why end up getting taken advantage of by the media because they want to do more and more. And they'll just play ball. And they'll keep playing ball. And they'll keep going. It's like we see it happening now.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's like people just can't stop getting attention. And that's how they get themselves into holes sometimes. And they get fucked up. But there's people who I think tell the industry. This is why I think people like Pink and Kelly Clarkson and music have longevity. Because they say, just so you guys know, I don't need this yeah and they have that energy yeah meanwhile someone like lindsey lohan like i don't think ever knew why she wanted to be famous she never examined that in herself right exactly yeah and and she never found out like why it was that she was doing it wasn't it her parents? Was it something with her? Was it something that she needed to-
Starting point is 00:21:46 So like an artistic expression. Exactly. Was it about the art ever? And I think that because you're too young and don't know enough to figure that out or activate that in your life or do something about it, you get fucked up by the industry because they'll keep taking from you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Absolutely. And I just feel like people that, maybe they haven't been super famous so they've had the time to ruminate on it or like, they just always,
Starting point is 00:22:10 they got famous later. Like people like, I'll say it again, like, because we saw Kelly's pillboards everywhere at Universal Studios Hollywood and I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:18 she's huge now. And I was like, I think it's because she always was like, I can take or leave it. So that's just something I was talking about with Sudi today on the topic of darkness of fame,
Starting point is 00:22:29 which pertains to this episode now. Which pertains to this. That's what this episode's about. It actually pertains to it. Pertains. Pertains. Tell me about these two days of shooting. Yeah, Matt, I would love to hear your take
Starting point is 00:22:41 because I'm absolutely everywhere. Aidy was actually editing a script while she was shooting that episode and it is no joke she is truly crazy how hard she works that's sweet thank you the best there is okay and Sudi always says all the time it's like she's inspired by you and how hard you work Sudi is an angel in my life
Starting point is 00:23:00 an angel in each one of our lives and also was truly my entry point to youtube like where long before i met bowen i like was listening to las culturistas and now all the friends are here and we're at the table and i can say that after working with 80 on the program shrill i'm stressed i actually did have a bone to pick because I was cast in the series. I had actually a pivotal role in the episode of Waham, which was written by Sudi, as we said.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Now the character, he did not have a name. His name was Handler. So I said to myself, I would like to give him a name. Chelsea. Very close, Bellen. you're a sister to me yeah literally sister life literally literally sister life hashtag at the end at the at the end of the words now i said to myself i'm doing a backstory for the character of handler he is chelsea Of Handler. He is Chelsea Handler's cousin. Wow. And he met Vanessa's character, who I work for, in the film show.
Starting point is 00:24:11 The film show, of course. Every episode is a film, I think. I agree, and I want an Oscar badly. Yes, and actually Oscars can go to TV shows now. Marriage Story. That's true. I think that they met at a white woman event that chelsea handler was at and she said you should meet mike you should meet my cousin yeah and that's how he got the job so his last name actually is handler mr handler mr handler and
Starting point is 00:24:38 his first name is say it with me chastain yes chastain handler chastain. Yes. Chastain Handler. Chastain, not said weird as Chastain. No. Actually spelled like Jessica Chastain's last name. Wow. I think that's really nice. That's beautiful. That was who I was on set. You weren't actually interacting with Matt. You were interacting with Chastain Handler. And that's how it
Starting point is 00:24:59 felt. And that's how it felt. Okay, so Engineer Doug is telling us to go to break. We'll be right back. No, I want to hear more about this. I really do. I wasn't sure what to do there for a second, but Doug is over there behind the glass saying, break, break. I'm like, yes, okay. And he's got a weapon, so we gotta
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Starting point is 00:27:33 And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we're back. So, actually, I want to hear you tell me more about the day. And we're back. So, I want to hear you
Starting point is 00:28:26 tell me more about the day. That was so fun. I want to know details about the day. It was just very fun because it was like an absolute all-star squad
Starting point is 00:28:35 where like Natasha Lyonne was directing, Vanessa Bayer also starring, and Greta, and Sudi, and Matt. It was just like so fun. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:28:46 How amazing is Natasha Lyonne as a director? Oh my God. Like you worked with her as well. I worked with her very briefly. Wow. Yeah, on Nora. On Nora. This is a table of actors.
Starting point is 00:28:56 A table of actors. It actually is a table of actors and we picked up on the fact that Natasha Lyonne, our director, had also come from acting. Yeah. Yeah, you could actually pick that up. That's actually true. On set, you had a feeling. Yeah, you had a feeling like, you actually know how to
Starting point is 00:29:09 talk to me. And no one does. And that's what I say every time I get to a set. I'm like, no one here knows how to talk to me. Except for Natasha. Yeah, finally. No, she's unbelievable. Maybe for the... I can't do an impression.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Did you just No, she's unbelievable. Maybe for the... I can't do an impression. What? Did you just try to launch into an impression of Natasha Lyonne here and now? And you went, maybe. Maybe for this. No. You can't. You have to edit this out.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You can't do this. No. It's in our contract with iHeartRadio. We can make no edits. We can make no this. No, it's absolutely, we actually, it's in our contract with iHeartRadio, we can make no edits. We can make no edits. That's absolutely very bad for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:49 For everyone involved. This episode is actually what we call a steel trap prison. Oh. Yes. A steel trap internet prison. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Hit me with the hard ones then and I'll absolutely crumble. Okay, thoughts on Second Amendment. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:30:04 All she's saying is no. I think, do we think it's time to ask the question? Yeah, because I don't think you can probably, unless you want to take
Starting point is 00:30:13 one more crack at them as actually on. Okay. Do you want to? Yeah. You know, for this sake. No.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Maybe try. What is she? Fran Drescher you're so bad I think you need to go lower hun you're so bad I don't know I feel really awful what are you talking
Starting point is 00:30:34 I feel bad about myself we're not talking about this I can't bring this energy this is an impressions showdown wait do you want to hear an impression that I do yes
Starting point is 00:30:43 I have one too so we can all go okay I'm Sandy Kenyon and this is Movie Minute that's good that's really good
Starting point is 00:30:53 and here's my Ariana Grande hi everybody it's me yes that's really good wait that was like Mickey Mouse oh my god what are your impressions
Starting point is 00:31:01 okay okay now you might not famous ones that we all know from watching your sketch. Matt, fucking shut up. Fine. Okay, are you ready? I'm not going to say who it is because I think you'll know.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yes, yes. Okay, ready? Hey, man. Wait, that was a bad one. Let me try it again. I think I know who that is. No, wait. I need to focus and actually try again.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Matt, stop. Okay. Hey, man. No, I'm panicking. It is Bart Simpson. Matt, stop. Okay. Hey, man. No, I'm panicking. It is Bart Simpson. I can do it better. That wasn't good. Oh my god. Oh my god. Sudi tried to do a Bart today, too, because you went on the Simpsons ride, and I was like, shut up. I think I've
Starting point is 00:31:38 tried to do my Bart for Sudi, and she said it was bad. I really think I'm good. You actually are amazing, and it was really good. I said it was close good. You actually are amazing and it was really good. Wait. I said it was close. You actually are amazing and it was really good.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's my pull quote. I was going to guess it was Marc Maron. Wow. And that hurts. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Hey, man. That was better. That was good. That was a good part. That was better. That was a good part. You know, after I left my interview
Starting point is 00:32:02 with Lauren, I had to go back. Oh, my God. That's my Marc. You better not. You better not. You know, after I left my interview with Lauren, I had to go back. Oh, my God. That's my mark. You better not. You better not. You better watch your ass. I've been on that podcast.
Starting point is 00:32:10 She's been on the pod. Have you? Yes. That's actually goals for me. Wow. Oh, actually, it really was, like, so fun. It's pretty cool. And he's very insightful and asks great questions.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I agree. I agree. You know, someone said that we were the gay WTF. I think that's true. Do you feel that way? Yeah. Big time, someone said that we were the gay WTF. I think that's true. Do you feel that way? Yeah. Big time. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:32:29 That's actually huge. That's actually huge. And we're not nearly as insightful. No, but are you? No, you are. Are you kidding me? I've cried multiple times listening to the pod. Not from our insight.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yes. I think sometimes when you guys deeply talk about your your friendship or growing I'm like damn this is extremely real and extremely like heartfelt and true damn I think that um I think that it helped that we literally thought that 0.000 people will listen to it in the
Starting point is 00:32:58 beginning because it set a tone and we're still able to do that I wonder if we like sold a podcast now like if we if it would be, we would even think to share anything real right now. You know what I mean? I have a question. Oh, yes. Before we ask the question.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yes, please. When you're writing Shrill, talking about bringing real life to things, how, because it's based on Lindy's work. Yeah, her book. but yes but i would imagine that everyone's stories go into it yeah totally how many personal stories are in the show where you're like that is so real what um you know it's a really a mix and it also like you know i i feel
Starting point is 00:33:40 like the first season especially we were like a lot tighter to the book. And now the second season, we definitely are a little bit looser. And so there's pieces of, you know, and that's what a writer's room is. It's like you're breaking the story together and adding little pieces to build a whole thing. But definitely, I mean, in the second season, there's a scene where I barf. And then we, spoiler, say I love you to each other and that was like something that did happen to me like I don't know I have many like things where I'm like that's straight from from the book of my life you know or whatever but but it's all like in an effort to tell something bigger or whatever you know but like I do think like
Starting point is 00:34:22 deciding on those like emblematic details that tell something about the story is like kind of what you have to find and often it's hard to kind of pull those out of thin air and it is easier to like kind of reach back to like something in your own life and twist it up or whatever sure and then when you're doing it
Starting point is 00:34:40 like and like when you're like acting like the experience that you've already had does it scramble your brain a little bit to be like I gotta stick to what this authentically was or you know the only time where it maybe kind of did that was in the first season
Starting point is 00:34:56 the fourth episode which is like the pool party episode and like and doing like I kind of had this long monologue after words where I'm like kind of processing the day. And like that was maybe one of the only times where I was like like at times just because I was like, man, I kind of haven't been to this place in a long time. Like in my mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like I don't talk to myself this way. Like in or, you know, those kinds of like hateful self-thoughts i really don't yeah go there in the same in like towards my body and stuff like that i just don't you know and it was kind of hard to like go to that place of like having that epiphany or something i don't know this sounds very like actorly and lame but it was like it was a little like freaky that day, you know? Yeah. And that's, I've told you this. That's a huge, huge, huge episode for everyone watching it because there's some analog to like another aspect
Starting point is 00:35:56 to anyone who's watching that's like, like I, like watching that episode, I was like, this is what bubble tea is. Have I told you? This is like what like me, like going to like an all Asian queer party is in New York I'm just like absolutely what the fuck I like I did not know this existed and then like processing it afterwards was like mapped out like exactly to that episode where I was like I did not know how to process it afterwards for a long time
Starting point is 00:36:20 yeah and I think sometimes even like seeing something where you're like, oh my god, this is so my shit or whatever. It can be very hard to afterwards be like, wow, I've had 20 some years of like a lot of pain and shame and self-hatred for like kind not no reason, but it's definitely like it is a little bit like you've agreed to live in this system that now we all agree fucking sucks. It sucks. And that we're like trapped in because we all know it, but it's one of those things that you can't just agree to all change. Totally. It's just like a mindset. about the show is that it really, really authentically and like tonally just right gets those specific emotional situations across like, and those dialogues that you have with other people
Starting point is 00:37:14 when you're talking about real shit. For example, like in the Waham episode, I said to Sudi, I was like, I gotta give kudos to all you guys because the conversation that you and john cameron mitchell have after you come back is and you've come back from waham and you're like i think it was fucked up but also women were enjoying it yeah and it's it's very much like an observation on those sorts of things which have a high price point and you go and there
Starting point is 00:37:41 is community but you are being taken advantage of if you choose to think of it that way and i thought that that scene between you and him was so um truthfully and authentically a scene of two people working it out like you really like were so good in that scene you were so good in that scene it was such good writing and it moves the story forward too because it's like oh like these two characters haven't interacted in this way. Right, exactly. And actually like, you know, John's performance there, it's like for the first time ever, he was like really, the character was really engaging with her as like a pupil in a way. And almost like he was challenging her. And I thought that that was just like, wow, that really, really felt like we, the audience, were working it out too. Like it's so what you want from like art and like a comedic examination of something because it's like you really presented the totality
Starting point is 00:38:33 of that kind of experience, which must be I should be enjoying this. I am not. Am I fucked up? Is this fucked up? Are we both kind of like- But I feel like that's like most of the human experience. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Where like your whole, I don't know, this is like an oversimplification, but like your whole high school experience, you're like, when I get to college, I'm going to be a different life. Yeah. And then you get to college and you're like, I don't know anybody. Yeah. I'm scared or whatever. But you know, it's like, it's always that way where you kind of like think something is good,
Starting point is 00:39:07 but then you get in it and you're like, I think this is bad. Or like, you know, it's just, it's like too complicated and nothing is like black and white. Yeah. Or we,
Starting point is 00:39:14 you know, I just like, I was so impressed by that particular scene because I, now that I'm in a writer's room, I know how hard it is with like a lot of people to write something that's feels like a conversation that's really between two people. It's just, it know how hard it is with a lot of people to write something that feels like a conversation that's really between two people. There's so much more that goes into
Starting point is 00:39:30 writing TV and creating TV than you think. And to put something that felt so real and so honest and really about what it was about on screen, I thought was like, just kiss. Loved.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You know something? It didn't dawn on me until way after the fact that this season, this most recent season, used song covers as a plot device. I was just like, I didn't realize until after. This is obviously intentional, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:01 oh wait, Peter singing God Only Knows. Thank God you brought it up. And Annie singing It's All Coming Back to Me. And Lolly singing fucking Shallow. Lolly's whole performance this season. Lolly is unreal. Unreal. Emily, Fightmaster, incredible.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That relationship, that arc. You love to see it. You love to see it. Emily, a star a star oh and they're a very hot person you know and i think it's okay to say one of the most gorgeous people in the world they are too hot it's actually a crime it's actually crime and i and i hate them sorry now i hate them now we now we hate them no yeah but and but the song selection, all very queer songs. Wow. Can I reveal something? Yes. I put my ass on tape doing Peter Smith's role.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And so basically, okay, so this is what happened. Wow. Matt is revealing the hot inside. There is a tape, which I didn't want to take of that. And you were very funny, Matt. You were so funny. Thank you. Which was kind of like- Not the point. Well And you were very funny, Matt. You were so funny. Thank you. Which was like kind of like.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Not the point. Well, like Peter's very funny in the beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it quickly turns. Yeah. It's real. And so Peter is the star. The star. But because I knew Sudi had written this like handler part for me.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yes. We actively in the writer's room were like, this will be Matt. That's beautiful. This like truly like bitchy, like king guy assistant. You're so good at it. It was really fun. Do you remember Matt, I also tried to pressure you to sing on the stage. You were like, you should sing.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You were looking at the ground kicking your feet and you were like, sing a little. Witch. I was like, get up there and just sing something. I think I did a little bit. I think a little tiny bit you did. I think I said to like, because the character has to get everyone up out of their seats.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And I think one of the times I came out and I was like, get up, get up. They were just like, what was that? Natasha Lyonne was like, what did you do? Yes. And so that didn't make the cut. Oh, no. Get up.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Get up. That's actually a hit. Get up. Get up. Oh, you gotta get up. I don't know. We're going to workshop it. And it's not going to be for us.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It'll be for Dua. For Dua. Absolutely almost 45 minutes into this. That's actually going to be for Dua. That's actually gonna be for Dua I think it's time we add no stop because I I'm still talking about being on set oh yes
Starting point is 00:42:33 Jesus okay I'm done anyway watch Shrill please do me a favor please watch Shrill tell your friends how are you feeling about season 2 like now that it's
Starting point is 00:42:46 been out oh it's so nice yeah it is really it's a very different because I don't know being on SNL is like so great
Starting point is 00:42:54 but it's definitely like when people come up they're like hey you're funny or like whatever you know it's just like a quick and I would imagine
Starting point is 00:43:00 people are like what you've done it's just so much more intense it's so much but it's also incredibly meaningful. And I really make an effort to like, I can't respond to everything that comes in. But I really read it all as much as I can.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And it really, really like, you know, when I'm like fighting about the marketing of the show or all those things, there are times where I'm like, what the fuck is this for? And then I'm like, no, that's what it's for. I do it for the goddamn girls like yeah that is literally why i wanted to do this and when i started and what i wanted as a child so like to be doing that it is a dream like it's a total dream i feel like the impact is outs really, really like visible, like real, tangible, cultural like moving of the dial a little bit with this. Like truly all of it. That's true. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Like watching it and hearing Sudi talk about it. Maybe like that's like my little like unfair supplement that I have to all this is hearing Sudi like talk through the process and like talk through the show and what the room is like. And she has nothing but good things to say about it. And we're just like, Oh, like this is a huge show that like she's opening my eyes to all this stuff that I never give a second thought to.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Well, you know, I'll tell you one wild small experience that I've had, which has been like extremely like active fit, like Instagram, like food freaks kind of who are like i only eat seeds yeah but i've been tagged in like multiple things from women like that yeah who basically are like i gotta say i used to watch the show thinking like fat people were lazy and gross and i now
Starting point is 00:44:39 like have empathy and feel for them and i understand that like they're human beings too and that to me was like holy fuck yeah how do you take that one like i know but you know i guess it's positive i'm grateful for it because to me that's like what tv can do yeah it's like make you see people who are unlike yourself and you're like oh i'm interested or care about them or whatever. Yeah. And also we all know it's like hard to get truly anything made. And the fact that like you've gotten something made that like does, is meaningful to people and also is like so funny and great.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Like, and it's gone on. It's just like, I'm sure it should be something that every day when you drink your coffee, you think, wow. When I talk about the cultural impact, I just mean that it's good for the city of Portland. Yeah, yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:45:32 That's it. That's all it is. For Tusk, we love Tusk. We stand out. I was merely only talking about, like it's great that people, it empowers them, but I was talking about the Portland community.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Yes. I'm happy that people there get to work and the coffee people. Yeah. Like when you're on your way to set, like I'm concerned that they're working. Yeah, and I want to be clear that I think what, me having a TV show is more important than like,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you know, pediatric surgeons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like anyone doing that kind of thing. I don't even know what a pediatric surgeon does. I don't even know. I don surgeon does. I don't even know. I don't know what pediatrics is. Doug. Orthopedic, pediatric, chiropractic.
Starting point is 00:46:10 It's actually all the same to me. It's all the same. Doug just raised his sign. He said ad break or else. So we'll be right back with. Ad break or else. Or else. We'll get into this.
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Starting point is 00:46:52 I felt too seen. Dragged. I'm NK and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope,
Starting point is 00:47:37 the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case. Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week, Charlamagne Tha God sits down with Vice President Kamala Harris for a conversation you don't want to miss. Listen, I feel very strongly I need to earn every vote, which is why I'm here having this
Starting point is 00:48:04 candid conversation with you and your listeners. They tackle the big questions, politics, policy and what's next for the country. I am running to be president for everybody, but I'm clear eyed about the history and the disparities that exist for specific communities. And I'm not going to shy away from that. Don't miss this in-depth interview with Charlemagne Th God and Vice President Kamala Harris, only on The Breakfast Club. Catch the full interview now on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any
Starting point is 00:49:11 steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Okay, it's time to ask the question. And now we have to ask the question. And I'm going to hand it off to you. Because here's the thing, we actually said on our new podcast, we're going to do, after our first ad break, we're always going to ask the question, and then here's the thing, we were
Starting point is 00:49:40 having too much fun and spun off. Which I actually had a feeling would happen on this episode. I knew it would. I didn't even have a feeling. Wow. So one of the things about this podcast is that we ask every guest the same question. And the only person we haven't asked
Starting point is 00:49:55 is Margaret Cho because we got too scared. But we are gonna ask you because I feel very comfortable. Good. And I feel comfortable enough to ask the question that we've asked to everyone else, which is, what is the culture that made you, Aidy Bryant, say culture was for you? This was the defining pop culture
Starting point is 00:50:13 that came in a moment where you were like, oh, me, I'm in that. I'd like to develop from, based on this point. You know, I've listened to the show many times. Oh, well then we could have really saved me a lot of breath there. But so I definitely like, you know, there are things where I feel some overlap with like other previous guests.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Of course. Imagine they're all dead. Yeah. I will say I was big into Grease. I was big into, you know, freaking Pee Wee Herman. But I was thinking about this this morning because I knew I was big into you know, freaking Pee Wee Herman. But I was thinking about this this morning because I knew I was coming here. I think I know where you were saying.
Starting point is 00:50:49 John Waters? I do. I feel like I found John Waters later though. It wasn't the first. But John Waters is big. Then I guessed wrong. I think what I have to say is local commercials in Phoenix,
Starting point is 00:51:08 Arizona, where I grew up, it so often was like the wife of a man who owned a furniture store. Yeah. It was like, and now I'm going to sing on camera. And like that for me was, I just like,
Starting point is 00:51:24 even as a child, I knew like, this me was i just like even as a child i knew like this is crazy or like i love her like here's cheryl towson with the theme lights camera action mattress okay there was one there was one there was one woman whose name was debbie gaby and she was like very southern and she was like hi i'm debbie g like, hi, I'm Debbie Gabey. And then she would, there was a song with it. She worked at a place called Sleep America. And she was like, Sleep America,
Starting point is 00:51:54 where America goes to sleep. Which is absolute nonsense. Sleep America, where America goes to sleep. Can I ask something annoying? Yeah, please. Is this the inspiration behind Our Waterbeds Are the Best? Absolutely, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Actually, that was based on a woman, a different Arizona commercial, where this woman sort of sang these jazzy songs, and the song was like, Express flooring is the best, call 1-800-EXPRESS. And she did a little head bob there
Starting point is 00:52:27 Wait, can you sing one? Make one up or from your childhood Yeah, from your childhood Okay, but National American University we all had, right? No One day, one night, Saturdays All right, online's just fine Nighttime, anytime
Starting point is 00:52:44 Get your degree. Set yourself free. National American University. Holy fuck. Oh my God. That's single. It's a soaring melody. I love it.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It's genius. Whoever wrote that, God bless. That was unbelievable. I've never heard that. I'm freaked. That was really good. That was unbelievable. I've never heard that. I'm freaked. That was really good. National American University. And the ads were,
Starting point is 00:53:08 it was one person singing this, an amazing voice. Gender is unclear, but it actually works perfectly because they cut to different people, generic people, just lip syncing to it. Just smile on their face,
Starting point is 00:53:20 just lip syncing to the track. And it's beautifully, beautifully done. And then was it like personal injury like lawyers too and stuff oh my god
Starting point is 00:53:28 all of it we had one that was 1-800-STEAMERS that's incredible there was another one it was like they would steam your clothes yes
Starting point is 00:53:37 and then there was there was a oh steam your clothes not carpets no I don't know I gotta be carpet yeah
Starting point is 00:53:43 1-800-STEAMERS is it from. I don't know. It's gotta be carpet. It's 10. 1-800-STEAMER-DIFFERENT-CLOTHES. They don't have that money. Okay, there was also, I have to say I think for me what I was grabbing onto was like there was an element of like sex. And like performance
Starting point is 00:54:01 that I wasn't finding like in loose Arizona, you know? And it was such like an element of like, she's taking her moment and getting on cam. I don't know. It affected me. That is an energy. And also it's like, there's something about like how many takes. There's something about what, was she involved in the writing process of the jingle?
Starting point is 00:54:24 There's something about what did was she involved in the writing process of the jingle there's absolutely something about what's that relationship yeah um here's one that i really liked so this is from sports radio in the morning okay okay so this was this is the theme sports radio 66 wfa in new New York You know that? Well, you've sang it in the past. It's very good. And it was a show about baseball and football and all those things. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You don't have to go to Hollywood to get a Hollywood tan to get a Hollywood tan Oh my God. to get a That's beautiful. What a beautiful little Little lilts and grace notes
Starting point is 00:55:07 Aidy, what were you gonna say? Well, I was just gonna say I also feel like part of it was That there was like a little western flavor Like a little southwestern taste You like country? You know, I'm not a huge country head I like the older stuff
Starting point is 00:55:22 But as a child My next door neighbor He worked, I think For some sort of country music station country head. I like the older stuff. But as a child, my next door neighbor, he worked I think for some sort of country music station and he was a DJ. And so I was always like, yeah, I'm kind of in the industry. Well, because part of this was
Starting point is 00:55:35 because I have a feeling that I feel like we all kind of attach to these commercials in a way. For us, for us little show people, we're like, oh oh there's an entry point for like entertainment that like is kind of accessible and attainable and and it's in my town and it's in my town this was made in my town yes right which was like big to me yeah hashtag arizona hashtag arizona yeah but there was uh one that was like for this casino that was kind of on the outside edge of town.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And it was like a montage of like poker chips and like hot women in red dresses. And I'm going to sing it for you now. Yeah, go. We love that. Wild horse pass on the east side. V-Cweaver on the west. Go to the river. Healer River Casino.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Where the winners go to the river healer of a casino where the winners go that's actually really emotional i know where the winners go fucking wrote it who wrote it honestly that person that i just had chills thinking about it and like you know think of me like fat 12 rosacea one tooth absolutely sunburned and just being like i'm gonna go to the river where the winners go it's transformative yeah now we're talking about this casino that's in Arizona. Can I tell you something that I've noticed about Arizona? Please. A lot of state pride. Or maybe I just watch The View every day.
Starting point is 00:57:16 She's always like, Arizona girl. Yeah. Megan. Megan. And you went to high school with Megan. Yes. And, you know, she loves to say this. And we did not know each other. We went to high school with Megan. Yes, and she loves to say this and we did not know each other.
Starting point is 00:57:27 We went to high school together. She was a senior when I was a freshman. And that's like a gap, a chasm that you can't really cross. I mean, no freshman talked to seniors. Well, also her dad had a computer lab named after him. In the school?
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah. I would imagine that every elementary school and every school there has a McCain printing lab. Yeah, I think it was like based on donations and stuff. Sure, sure, sure. I don't know. And especially now. There's something about, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:56 Colorado is literally hundreds and hundreds of miles away. No, but it's the same. It's the West. No, it's the West. It's actually the same. There is this like arid culture. I mean, I don't mean literally the farmland is arid. It's just like everyone's brains are bad.
Starting point is 00:58:14 You are absolutely a villain. Can I say something? What you're doing today, you're attacking culture. I'm not attacking culture. So you're attacking arid culture and you're attacking Arizona and the whole West. And you've attacked the jowls of a young Hillary. I'm just saying, growing up in Colorado,
Starting point is 00:58:30 this is, like, truth. Yeah. And I'm so grateful for, like, whatever, like, just growing up around all the Mormons and the whatevers and the ski people, but, like, it was not meant for a little gay Asian boy boy like me to like thrive in
Starting point is 00:58:47 right i agree with you completely that like i feel like a little bit like utah arizona colorado new mexico it's like important to be normal yes like it's very like that is their culture is like everybody's kind of the same right we all kind of dress the same it's important that we're having normal nice lives which you know i think is very comfortable but if you're not feeling like you fit into that normal you're like yeah holy fuck yeah i can't exist here a little bit right if you have new york values well this is the thing and fashion you wear boots in New York? wait cowboy boots
Starting point is 00:59:30 okay no one's brains are bad in there in there it's just not for people the brains are bad because they don't wear sunscreen on their scalp I'm just saying like it's it's a weird-ass place. My thing about, I love Denver.
Starting point is 00:59:50 But when we went, I told you, right? Brittany Colston. Yeah, you've attacked this girl before. I have not attacked her. She literally saw me 10, 11 years after me and Pat Regan eating burritos at Legal Pete's before our show before I don't think so honey she comes up to me she goes Bowen I haven't seen you in forever I thought you were going to be a doctor
Starting point is 01:00:12 you were always so good at math I'm like get away from me girl and truly but then she said the bleakest thing to me which was it's crazy that you went to New York cause no one leaves here and I was like you cannot do this you need to New York because no one leaves here. And I was like, you cannot do this. You need to like,
Starting point is 01:00:27 you need to like, tell me how beautiful it is to live here. Yeah. Yeah. I would say, I am like rooting for Denverites all the fucking way.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I've never been to Denver. You gotta go. Denver's, Denver's phenomenal now. That was one of our best shows. I don't think it's only live in Denver. I'm just, guys,
Starting point is 01:00:43 when I talk about Denver, when I talk about Colorado, I mean growing up there. Yes. Oh, please. That's one of our best shows. I don't think it's only live in Denver. Guys, when I talk about Denver, when I talk about Colorado, I mean growing up there. Yes. Please, whenever I make reference to Long Island, I always talk about it. It's a time capsule. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Because you have to understand something. I don't know when you guys realized this about yourself, but I remember when I realized I had New York values. I actually do. What did you realize? I actually remember the moment I realized, oh my God, I think I have New York values. I actually do. What did you realize? I actually remember the moment I realized, oh my God, I think I have New York values.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. When was it? What was it? Yeah, don't leave us on the fucking edge. I'm edging over here. Yeah, I actually remember the moment.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I was watching American Idol. Oh. And Ryan Seacrest said, you're going to Hollywood. And I, you thought you're going to Hollywood. And I... You thought, I want to go. I thought, Hollywood. And I came in my pants.
Starting point is 01:01:35 And that was also when I realized what that was. Because that had never happened before. No? Yeah, and that first time is always like, what's happening? And so then I was really uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:01:45 and I was kind of walking around in school and I was scared to talk to the health teacher. Yeah. So anyway, this is obscene. I didn't know
Starting point is 01:01:56 where I was going with the New York Values thing. No, it was good. It was good. It was good. So you and Megan are probably the two most famous people
Starting point is 01:02:03 from your hometown. No, I think Emma Stone. Yes! That's right. Another you and Megan are probably the two most famous people from your hometown. No, I think Emma Stone. Yes. What? Yeah. That's right. Another Arizona girl. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Do you guys bond about that? We've talked about it definitely. We did go to the same high school also. Yes. But did you guys know each other?
Starting point is 01:02:18 Did you guys know each other? Barely. Barely. I mean, she was a freshman when I was a sophomore. Oh, I see. But a smaller gap. Yeah, a smaller gap. A smaller gap for sure. But freshman when I was a sophomore. Oh, but a smaller gap. Yeah, a smaller gap. A smaller gap for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:26 But no, I don't know. I definitely, I feel like at least with these commercial women, I was very like, I think those are all the characters that I play on SNL now. Yeah. You know, I don't know. You are very good at, and this is something that Sudie is very good at too.
Starting point is 01:02:44 When we were doing Sketch Together, she was very good at playing like that girl you know or that woman you know yes that you thought you were the only person who knew like my favorite is um when you played the woman on the airport on the air on the airplane well i'm a fan wow okay so let me ask you let me tell you something you don't just come in here and say, I'm a fan of you. We're a fan of you. We're a fan of you. You actually are a guest that we wanted to get on the show for years
Starting point is 01:03:09 and had scheduling conflicts. Wow, I know. But don't you feel like it almost happens so many times where it would be like, I'm available Thursday, and you guys would be like, we're only available Friday. We're in Spain that day.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So don't make this like I'm some difficult starlet, okay? Well, you actually are the most famous person here, and that's an accusation. And that's an accusation, and that actually gives you power, and we're on the receiving end of a bad power dynamic. I don't know that that's true. I think that Bowen is more famous.
Starting point is 01:03:36 That's not true! Fuck you! I mean that genuinely. And I genuinely reject. I reject this. Well, Bowen 80. I guess and I genuinely reject I reject this okay well bone 80 I guess because I feel like that you've been getting
Starting point is 01:03:49 the press I mean he was written about by Miss Dow no and you want can we talk about this you think
Starting point is 01:03:55 I think to some degree to some degree we can I'm excited to see what degree you guys choose so January 20 something sorry I'm screaming it's a Saturday it's a Saturday
Starting point is 01:04:05 the piece is gonna come out and I had a feeling the whole time I was like I'm not gonna like this I'm not gonna like this and so you decided beforehand meanwhile talking but no no no no here's the thing talking to Maureen was great we had such a nice time together but I was like there's gonna be something about this no matter what
Starting point is 01:04:22 no matter what is written that I'm gonna that's going to upset me. And then sort of had that sort of, and I hadn't been sleeping well. And truly like I get the New York Times emails like every fucking morning at 6 a.m. And it pops up while I'm like tossing and turning in bed. And I'm literally sleep deprived. Had just come from a damn pre-tape yes
Starting point is 01:04:45 that's as low as you can go that's as low as you can go six in the morning on Saturday morning having just shot a short for SNL having just shot a short for SNL
Starting point is 01:04:54 as low as possible as hard as you can it sounds horrible it's horrible I just mean it's like true delirium I'm kidding it's absolutely
Starting point is 01:05:02 you've been awake for like 48 hours you're fucking tired as hell anyway so then I read through the whole piece and I was like uh True delirium. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. It's absolutely, you've been awake for like 48 hours. Oh, 100%. Yeah, you're fucking tired as hell. Anyway, so then I read through the whole piece and I was like, this is really fucking weird. Yeah. And then went to work the next day and then just was feeling so out of it. And then I get the most blessed text in the world from AD Brilliant that says,
Starting point is 01:05:24 hey, I don't know if you're blocking the next thing but if you're not just like come swing by my little house for a chat and I was like wow okay this is what I knew that this was what I needed. So you had to go through security because there's security Yeah they keep us separate actually
Starting point is 01:05:40 So I gave him a pass Main cast actually is in the castle yes and featured they still have to be in the swamp yeah that's right
Starting point is 01:05:50 we send down our scraps of our old spaghetti for them to eat in the swamp the scraps of spaghetti scraps of spaghetti for the swamp and then I go into her and then we just had like
Starting point is 01:05:59 truly yeah the most meaningful best most like balming conversation I've ever had at that place. Truly. God, Bowen.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Like you like talked me through it in such a perfect way. And you like really like found every single little wrinkle contour that I hadn't even thought of yet to be like. And actually what you're experiencing is maybe this. And I've experienced this version of it. And I was just like yes crazy and um I don't know it was just it meant a lot and I still think about that I love you dearly and I think it is I mean it's kind of like just what we were touching on of like it's those low as you can go no it's fucking not like kind of where it's like you feel incredibly honored to be like written about in the New York Times you feel incredibly honored to be like written about in the new york times you feel like oh my god i can't believe i have worked so long and so hard to be at this place but then at the same time
Starting point is 01:06:53 it's a really bizarre experience to like open up your personhood your family your uh sense of self to be like consumed by the public yeah absolutely and i think if you have like any uh sense of self to be like consumed by the public. Absolutely. And I think if you have like any sense of like grounded feelings, it's like, you're like, I'm in outer space and there's no handbook. And, and even like a therapist can help you, but they can't know what it's like.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And like, it's just a really, it is kind of one of those things where like, I really end up turning to Kate or I really end up turning to like people who are experiencing it with me at the same time because it's like, it's just hard to describe and you don't want to sound ungrateful, but it is, it's really dizzying and like freaky.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I mean, to be out of control of your narrative at all has to be a like crazy making experience. Like, especially for people who are like used to creating and used to expressing, you know what I mean? You're used to it being deliberate. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:52 And then, and also like, I mean, especially with you, you are very, I actually hadn't, hadn't thought about it like this until now. Really.
Starting point is 01:07:59 You are someone who is so detail oriented. Oh. And you're so like, um, you know, you like, like things the way that you like them. You are very, I think that you like aspects of control. And so to hand it over
Starting point is 01:08:13 to someone who's writing a piece about you that's going to be probably reached by more people than you've been able to reach right now in terms of, hey, here's something about me. This person has a lot of power and a lot of control over that narrative. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And they do that. And so I can see reading it. And even though I think it was a, you know, there was nothing about the piece to me that I objected to for you. I can see being in your head and being like, well, this isn't me.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And I am allowed to have an opinion on it and a take on it because it has an opinion and a take on me sure sure sure so anyway um that's my little relationship but i will i will say i'm not surprised that that well it's not that i'm not surprised just that it's like of course she reached out because i feel like you are the kind of person and i could sense this like even like watching you through the screen when i was just like a fan of yours like when i was watching snl i was like there's something where we the audience and that's why i'm not surprised that people have connected with shrill like you do have that quality where it's like when you're like joking on snl and you're doing these things you really feel like you're doing it with us and there's a connection
Starting point is 01:09:23 to that we have to you and so the fact that you are so actually lovely is just like well i could have told you that i feel like that that really comes through on screen that's so nice well it's true it's very touching to me but there was there was something remember when 80 got hired like and you and i were just watching because i was there as a part of the you were part of the process decision-making process but but like just watching it Because I was there. I was a part of the process. You were a part of the process. I was part of the decision-making process. But just watching it, because remember it just being a thing where you were like, oh, that's that person.
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's what you describe when we play star or actress. A star is someone who pops on the screen and you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop, stop. Let me look at you. Matt brought this up the other day
Starting point is 01:10:03 and it's like, the encapsulated thing about Star is that they show up on screen and you go I get it yeah I feel like and with 80 it was like day motherfucking one you're like yeah everyone but correct me if I'm wrong like it you had to work in the beginning
Starting point is 01:10:19 to get things on like I mean obviously like when you are you're so talented and that's apparent but like I remember on that first season, like, you had the sleep, the best friend sketch of Cecily. Girlfriend talk show. And then, like, I remember you started to get more opportunities. And I really saw you, like, shining. And, like, but I think that, for example, with you, Beau, in, like, first episode, they had you, like, doing a weekend feature. And I think with you, it was a little bit different.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Oh, big time. Yeah. first episode they had you like doing a weekend feature and i think with you it was a little bit different where it was like time yeah and like i you know that is why like every new cast member has like such a totally different experience because i would say it took me like two years to really be like getting stuff on that i had written and part of it was just like i was like i don't know how to fucking do this i had had never been on camera ever. Really? Ever. No, I was like doing, you know, Second City shows and like improv shows in Chicago. Like had never even done like a commercial or anything. And so it was just like, I don't know how to do this. Like it took me a little while.
Starting point is 01:11:18 And you came from improv more, right? Did you just sketch at Second City? Well, I mean, yes. Second City is sketch. It's weird. I definitely did more improv. Like, that was where I started. But it is like, yeah, I kind of did stuff with The Annoyance, which is like writing or improvising to write, like, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:11:34 And then Second City is like sketch. So, yeah. I mean, I had written sketch, but it was just like, you know. On that level with that kind of parameters and focus. And that kind of pressure. And pressure. It's cuckoo it's cuckoo how you relearn
Starting point is 01:11:49 everything yeah cause I mean I I kind of like to say that I that I kind of like was broken down
Starting point is 01:11:59 completely last season as a writer and I've I wanna I wanna retract what I said because it made it sound like it was easier for you immediately at the show when you didn't have...
Starting point is 01:12:07 And it's always hard. But it's always hard. I know what you mean, where it's like first week, they really put you out there. The listeners might be like, he just was an asshole. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:12:17 You had the kind of first year that everyone has where it's like you have to figure it out. It wasn't like all of a sudden you arrived and were treated like a prince. The amount of times I've sobbed in Sudie's office yeah oh the sobbing is key yeah yeah it's important i mean and i definitely like i remember there was a time where like i was had just started on the show and like my piece like crushed at the table and so i was like it's definitely gonna go and then it
Starting point is 01:12:42 didn't get picked and i was like that hurts yeah and then I went home and Connor like still was in Chicago like shutting down our apartment so I was like home alone and I like reached to throw something away and I leaned forward and hit my head on like a wall basically in this apartment that I had just gotten because I like wasn't used to it and I remember I slid down the wall and was like like just totally you had a rachel mccaddy yes a full blown rachel mccaddy and it was like you know you're fine honey you're on a saturday night live they're paying you but it was like you know you lose your sense of yourself and it's confusing and you know i don't know yeah but the fact that it's saturday night live makes it hard it doesn't it's not a comfort it makes it harder because when you're a first year person snl i would assume it's kind of like and i felt like this with the
Starting point is 01:13:36 audition too it's like they this is your moment to do it and so if it's not going great yeah that's what's in your head like it's not it's not i'm on snl don's in your head. Like it's not, it's not, I'm on SNL. Don't worry. It'll be fine. It's I'm on SNL. Fuck. Yes. And it's funny that you say that.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Cause like truly when I got hired, I never was like jumping up and down. Like, Oh my God, I got hired SNL. Like I right away was like, Oh fuck. I'm terrified. And like, this is going to be hard and I'm scared. Yeah. And I, I never really had like a celebratory moment maybe until like shrill came out because i was just like i'm i'm like wow well that's an interesting dark no no no it's not truthful because i i i also didn't really have any
Starting point is 01:14:16 moment like that either i was just like oh fuck like this this has to happen there's an opportunity window that i have to like, yeah. Of both of you guys. Like, do you think that how you felt about how your audition went played into how you felt when you got cast? Like, did you leave your test thinking I crushed?
Starting point is 01:14:37 I don't know that I thought I crushed, but I definitely, I remember like when I was auditioning, I had gotten, I kind of had met Jason Sudeikis before and he had kind of messaged me and been like you should do this political impression because she's going to host a debate and he had kind of like
Starting point is 01:14:52 given me like an insider yeah he had told me like you should get candy down because you know put that in your audition and I remember just like kind of being like maybe I should listen to Jason you know he's giving me this like insider tip but at the same time I Jason. He's giving me this insider tip, but at the same time,
Starting point is 01:15:06 I was like, that's not me. I'm not an impression person, and this is my one chance to audition for SNL, and I really just want to do my shit so that if they hire me, I am hired for my shit and not because I was trying to be something that I thought they might like.
Starting point is 01:15:24 That is a big question you have to ask of yourself. And so I really only did like dumb characters. I did almost no impressions. I wrote stuff that I thought was funny that like I liked, you know, and leaving that was my guiding light. Like when I got hired was that I was like, all I did was stuff that I like to write. That's what they hired me for
Starting point is 01:15:45 like I that I can do you know what I mean instead of feeling like okay I'm the girl who doesn't yeah no yeah yeah like I was just like okay I can hold on to like the stuff that I like to do I don't know it's because I guess it must have been comfortable like they liked that yeah they'll like my work totally like I don't have to continue to pretend. Yeah. Got it. I couldn't. I don't know. So I didn't leave being like, I crushed. But I left at least being like, I did my fucking thing. And either they like it or they don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Like, you know, that's me. You know? How did you feel? Well, I just want to first off say that that, like, takes so much, like, conviction of self to, like, stick to, though. Yeah. Well, I mean. And you were a damn zygo. You were, like, 29. No, 29. 24, right? No, I was going to say stick to, though. And you were a damn zygo.
Starting point is 01:16:25 You were like 29. No, 29. I was going to say 19 and then 25. But so young. I don't think I could have done it. That would have been three, four years earlier. There's no way. I wasn't ready.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Literally, I was going to say 21, and then my brain shifted to 19, and I said 29. I had to explain myself. Yeah. Okay. Because you're 89. That's right. You're an 89-year-old woman.
Starting point is 01:16:53 You're sick. I'm sick and not doing well. You're sick, but you look young. Thank you. So that's the sickness. Congratulations on that. That's the sickness i felt like i by the end i kind of let the whole like the whole like mold of like what they wanted to see of me yeah kind of pervaded which which
Starting point is 01:17:15 which which felt weird yeah but i think there's like smarts to that too i don't know yeah i think it can go either way just you have to just commit to it I remember the first time for me it was like I did my own thing and felt great about it and then the second time I felt like I played the game too hard and felt like ugh about it but either way
Starting point is 01:17:34 I think that people that go in with a plan and are strategic they can be successful but also people that go in there and say this is what I do
Starting point is 01:17:41 god damn those people are rad it's just a choice to do that. And I think a lot of times it don't dang work out. It don't dang. It actually don't dang. It don't dang. I do have to really quickly say
Starting point is 01:17:55 that I cribbed from Aidy Bryant syntax up top when I said, yes, I damn do. That's an Aidyism. And she owns it. Wow. To put damn before a verb ah that's that's that's what it is oh my god
Starting point is 01:18:09 wait can I give a can I give a my mother damn bird update yes she was texting me from the beach the other day she's now in Florida my parents go down there they're snowbirds now and they have a condo and she was on the beach
Starting point is 01:18:25 with my aunt and my cousin who recently went through a breakup. So they were at the beach. Christina. Yes. Wow, you are literally sister life. That's a good friend. Literally sister life.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Literally sister life. Hashtag. Yeah, hashtag actually. Literally sister life hashtag after those words. Actually. And my mom famously said damn bird last time she texted me from a beach because a damn bird came over and took the sandwich
Starting point is 01:18:52 yeah baby yeah we remember this so she and we she knows that she's become popular on the podcast for damn bird and so now and people will be in my in my DMs every time I post a picture of Katrina and they'll say damn bird and they know to stylize it with two M's, which is the way that she spells damn. So she says to me, she texts me, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I was like, what? She goes, literally damn bird. A bird pooped on me. She can't go to the damn beach, the woman! Damn bird two! Damn bird two! Return of the bird! Damn bird two, colon, return of the bird. Damn bird.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Damn bird. These damn birds, actually, it won't stop, damn bird. I am, I am huge, I stan seagulls. They're fucking wild. You stan seagulls? Wild're fucking wild. You stan seagulls? Wild.
Starting point is 01:19:47 They're wild. Lawless. Because they don't think about anything but themselves. No, when Connor and I worked on a cruise ship, sometimes the seagulls. You did improv on a cruise ship? Yes. Yes. Proudly.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Proudly. But there used to be these seagulls that would come and basically like target children. Yeah. The killers. Because they knew they were weak. Yeah. And absolutely go hard to get their fries on the back of this
Starting point is 01:20:08 boat. And I would say our hearts were so sad for being at sea for four months and doing bad improv that our only joy became watching the seagulls eat the children's fries. These birds actually They're strong!
Starting point is 01:20:23 It's actually a real culture. These birds are strong. It's actually real They're strong. They're strong. These birds... It's actually a rule of culture. These birds are strong. It's actually rule of culture number 103. These birds are strong. I needed a rule of culture. We haven't done that many. I'm sorry. You have to understand that we're just now getting back into the flow of hosting. Of course.
Starting point is 01:20:40 And we feel very... How do you like our setup? I love this. Also, I hope you think we're doing a good job. like our setup? I love this. Also, like, I hope you think we're doing a good job and I hope the listeners like this. I think that everyone is thinking this episode is actually going to win an Oscar. This is an all-time,
Starting point is 01:20:53 right? Yeah. This is a nice. This is an all-time good one. Did you hear they're doing a podcast, like, big major award show? Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:00 A pod. That should be illegal. It's a golden mic. And I've been saying this maybe for some time, that there should be no Oscars, no Golden Globes, no Emmys. There should be one. There should be illegal. It's a golden mic. And I've been saying this maybe for some time that there should be no Oscars, no Golden Globes, no Emmys. There should be one. There should be one.
Starting point is 01:21:09 There should be one and they do TV and movies at the same time and they take all the money and they give it to the people. It's getting dark. There's too many. The Critics' Choice and the Nickelodeon Awards. Well, really what we need to get rid of is the Nickelodeon Awards
Starting point is 01:21:23 because they're the most toxic. They're the most toxic and bad. It's actually rules of culture number 36. The most toxic are the Nickelodeon Awards. It's getting to be inhumane to like make these people buy a new outfit for a new thing every week for about three months. They're wasting our time.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Yes. And I'm not saying like us as people who attend. I'm saying like people who watch. Yes! And I'm not saying us as people who attend. I'm saying people who watch. Yes! This is rude, and it's stupid. First of all, I love some of these people that get awards so much. I love Laura Dern.
Starting point is 01:21:58 You making me watch 15 different Laura Dern award speeches doesn't make me like Laura Dern more. Exactly. It honestly takes this person that I guess you, the industry, are trying to be like, you like her, so pay, like, give us your money, like, watch her on programs. It's like, no, by oversaturating these people,
Starting point is 01:22:16 you drive us nuts. It's bad. You drive us cuckoo crazy. And this might be like a weird afterthought, but like, to make a damn, to make a damn team of caterers work an after party, five different after parties in Los Angeles alone every week from like December to March. It's like,
Starting point is 01:22:37 excuse me. It's just so, it's such a strain on it just for this like weird little industry that doesn't really matter in the end and also I'm sorry and I will take this to the streets come on
Starting point is 01:22:49 they've got to stop sending us screeners they have to send links it has to be links it actually needs to happen like I don't know what the rules are but like they have to do this
Starting point is 01:22:58 it's crazy okay the pale of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel stuff they need to fucking check themselves honestly that might be my, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Come on, honestly. How fucking dare they send me a suitcase of DVDs in order to get me to vote for them. And I will say this to Maisel's face. I'll say this to anyone. This is insane what they're doing. Well, literally, literally like.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Our planet is dying. So for everyone that doesn't know, everyone listening who doesn't get wga screeners like the wga like does the awards and so amazon being amazon sent a i guess it was like a little makeup box but like a 15 pound box of discs yeah and it had little extra stuff like a postcard from wherever Maisel had been and then little coasters, which were cheap. And then you could actually use it as like a makeup box
Starting point is 01:23:51 or like a little lunch box, I guess. But it had to be, every single one had to be what? 30 bucks? Yeah. Assembled by like a child and shit and like. And of course fucking Amazon is there. Yes! And it's like there's no hubris.
Starting point is 01:24:04 And they also sent out a huge Modern Love box. No. Did you get that one? No, I don't know what that is. It was literally like a pirate's chest arrived at the Greta Teitelman house. And I was like, I don't know what to do with this. Because I'm not watching Modern Love. It's so much waste.
Starting point is 01:24:21 It's so much waste. It's so bad. I mean, because Connor and I are both in multiple unions. Oh, I can't imagine. We're doing double time. And we've now, I guess there's a way to opt out. And I think we've possibly figured it out. But it's like the fact that these are fucking going to people's like weird business manager's offices and then just going right into the trash.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Yeah, it's bad. It makes me fucking crazy. This industry is gob. It's actually most of the Texas sized plastic island is Maisel lunchboxes. Absolute. How fucking dare you send me a suitcase? But you know what this is? It's for the elderly people who are in the unions.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Oh my God. Because they want to stick to DVD players and they don't know how to stream shit. That is literally nuts. they don't know how to stream shit. That is literally nuts. I don't know. That's like Whoopi Goldberg on The View yelling at AOC because she doesn't respect her elders. It's like, that's because we all need to have a conversation, sweetie. Did that happen?
Starting point is 01:25:16 Yes! I don't know. We all are. But you know, when Aidy was on The View, I texted her. I was like, yeah, tell me everything. It was, it was, also, I think I told you this, that they were like, you have to come back and guest host. And I was like, I will never do that.
Starting point is 01:25:31 I absolutely would. There's nothing that makes me more panicked than hearing them all do their political takes and then them turning to me. And me being like, ah! I think I would do that. It's also... And Meghan McCain would be like, same.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Because I'm gay. You have to do it. I think that one day in my life I will be on the view. You will. Yes, you will. Even if I have to be in a damn chicken costume. Sometimes they do do that. Yeah, they do be doing.
Starting point is 01:26:04 It's called Chicken of the Week. Is that real? The chicken comes out and does a dance. Is this real? With joy. No. Anything is possible, honestly. I would believe anything you said about The View
Starting point is 01:26:14 or the Kelly Clarkson Show, because I just assumed that you know. Kelly Clarkson Show is seconds away from having a Chicken of the Week. Like, we found this chicken actually in Arizona, and this is an amazing chicken, and they tweeted us, so here's the video. and it would be just a video of a chicken like and she'd be like i'm crying that was so funny oh my god i'm actually crying and then we come back it's gonna
Starting point is 01:26:34 be reba and after the break reba would come out and she would say i love that chicken that was funny she goes i thought it was funny too i could literally do a whole 16 minute kelly markson show. Maybe I should do that as a live show. Come out as Kelly and just have guests. Reba rocks. Reba rocks. Actually, it's rule of culture number 49.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Reba rocks. Thank you for joining. We always encourage, always encourage guests to join. We love when guests join, actually. Yes. I think Doug's giving me a look. No, we have to stop. Well, Doug can keep looking. This is crazy. You actually can keep looking. I don't want this to join, actually. Yes. I think Doug's giving me a look. No, we have to stop. Well, Doug can keep looking. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:06 You actually can keep looking. I don't want this to end. Hans, I don't like the look. I don't like the look. We have to. This is getting crazy. It's getting crazy. No, well, so this actually, it's actually okay.
Starting point is 01:27:16 It's okay, everyone. We're actually going to do what we're going to do. I don't think so, honey, now. Now, you tell them what I don't think so, honey, is. Okay, every week we take one moment to rail against something in culture. We take one moment. No she's not a fan. She thinks it's only a moment long. Fuck
Starting point is 01:27:31 this. Oh my god I'm actually mad and crying. Oh my god. We take one moment to rail against something in culture that is pissing us off. Yes queen. Absolute queen. Absolute queen. One moment.
Starting point is 01:27:46 One moment. Okay. All right, so listen. Should I go first? I think you should go first. I have a couple things, but I think I'm gonna do one of the things. You're gonna do one of the things?
Starting point is 01:27:56 Something that made sense to say. Okay, I'm ready. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so honey. Churros. Sorry, honey. Churros. Sorry, girl. Churros.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Guess what? You smell better than you taste, motherfucker. How come churros, when I taste you, I'm always mad? Because when I smelled it, it has that overwhelming auntie-an smell where you can't walk past it and not buy it. And then I eat it and I'm a disappointed toot. I don't think so, honey. Also, when you're hard, you're too hard.
Starting point is 01:28:29 When you're soft, you're actually too soft. There's never been a time in the written word or the actual history where a churro has been the right consistency. And if there has been a time, no one's writing about it, honey, and you don't see it on the news because you are what?
Starting point is 01:28:45 Not actually good. Churros, today I watched Sudi Green by one of you at Universal Studios Hollywood, and you were $5.95. And you might as well be damn paper. I don't think so, honey, the price of you. And the price of a churro I'm willing to pay? Zero dollars, honey, because I don't think so. And that's one of your best? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I just disagree. Sorry. That's actually fine. I only go to Disneyland to eat churros. Well, you haven't had a turkey leg then, sweetie. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Fuck. Actually, if you want to really throw down, we actually could. About best snacks at Disney. No, I mean, I don you want to really throw down, we actually could. About best snacks at Disney. No, I mean, I don't want to do that. She doesn't. I don't want to engage with you on Disney or any theme park kind of stuff. You're not trying to, like, spar? I do want to spar.
Starting point is 01:29:40 She wants to spar. You know, here's the thing. Have you been to Disney World? World? No. Land. I'm Land. She's to spar. You know, here's the thing. Have you been to Disney World? World? No. Land. I'm land. She's a land girl. I'm land. You can make the drive. Yeah. Well, there's lots of great stuff. Anyway, think about it.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Now, I gotta say, Matt is kind of moving away from the world camp. He's not as big of a fan of world as he used to be. Well, Bowen and I recently went to Disneyland and it's just, it's so much easier because you don't have to take a damn plane to get from Epcot to Magic Kingdom.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I know. It's crazy. I also think there's some of the like 60s charm that's still there. Antiqueness. That isn't quite, I don't know, I've never been to the land, but that's what I like about Disneyland
Starting point is 01:30:22 is the 60s charm. Yeah, it's the it's the um wow this is so um small preserve this of the of the like castle yeah this massive thing where you're like okay capitalism yeah when i go to disney world shit oh yeah the way you just that was slid that in contempt calemptive. California Adventure can eat shit. And you kind of missed the mic and were like, you were scared to commit to it? No, she committed to it.
Starting point is 01:30:50 No, I was sort of sitting up straighter. Because you're actually trying to spar is the thing. You actually came to spar tonight. She's sparring. And I actually really enjoy California Adventure. And you know who else enjoyed it? Bowen. I enjoyed it very much.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Incredicoaster. Loved. Popped off. All right, so actually this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. And the thing about his time is it starts now. I Don it very much. Incredicoaster. Loved. Popped off. Popped off. Alright, so actually this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. And the thing about his time is it starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. Magicians! Oh, fuck! Don't you ever pull shit
Starting point is 01:31:14 behind, from behind my ear without asking me for permission! I'm not gonna equate it to like a thing that requires consent, but this is a thing where everyone comes up to you. These magicians come up to you, have no regard for your boundaries, darling.
Starting point is 01:31:31 And they start to like wave their little hands and fingers next to your hip or something. And then knives come out. It's so stupid. And the TikTok magicians are the worst. And the TikTok magicians who the worst and the TikTok magicians who will take a glass of water
Starting point is 01:31:48 and cut into it and it's revealed to be a cake I cannot 15 seconds it's crazy and it feels like it feels like a form of gaslighting because it's like you're no you're you're distorting my sense of reality here by like
Starting point is 01:32:03 really fucking up my brain. And this is what you do. You barter in deceit. That's one minute. You peddle in deceit. It's actually rule of culture number 96. Magicians barter in deceit. And it's, they knowingly do it.
Starting point is 01:32:22 They knowingly do it. That's what's really fucked up. For cash. For cash. They knowingly do it. That's what's really fucked up. For cash. For cash. They do it for money. Magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money. And it's actually real culture number 102. Magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Cash. And it's important cash money. They actually can't, you know, it's they're fucked up because they take cash. They take cash. So they can't, you know, it's they're fucked up because they take cash. They take cash so they don't get taxed. They're an incredibly disgusting people. Magicians. And you know who their king is?
Starting point is 01:32:57 Is that Neil Patrick Harris. Really? Dope bitch. He's the king of magic. He loves magic. Oh, God. No, no, no. One of the celebrities we've dragged the hardest on this podcast is Neil Patrick Harris. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Is that true? Yeah, we dragged him. I don't think we have. We dragged him because he one time tweeted during the Tony Awards at Rachel Bloom, who is this girl they have hosting backstage? She's not fun. Like, something like that. And they were like, that is the Golden Globe winner, Rachel Bloom.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Yeah, that's nasty. Don't do that. You can't do that. And they were like, that is the Golden Globe winner, Rachel Bloom. Yeah. That's nasty. Don't do that. It was nice. You can't do that. You can't do that. And here's the thing. One person who I don't think is a magician and so we do trust her is 80.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Oh, no. Oh, wait. And it's time. Let me think here. Okay. Because I feel like I have zones and I'm scared. Take a damn time. I'm just going like see what happens.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Just know this is not premeditated. Let it flow, honey. Okay. I'm just gonna talk loudly and we'll see what happens. Yeah, that's what it is. That's all it is. Sometimes I find myself on stage in front of a crowd and I'm like, oh, this is happening.
Starting point is 01:33:56 And it's an I don't think so, honey. And often they're cuckoo. All right, so this is Aidy Bryant's I don't think so, honey on this episode of Las Coterias. That's called Beep. Fill in later. And our time starts now.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I Don't Think So Honey diarrhea. You've got your hands around my throat and you're killing me. I need you to stop. I cannot figure out what is causing you. Is it cheese? Is it like pepper? I'm so scared and I don't know what to do and I've been to the doctors
Starting point is 01:34:29 and they cannot help. And it's not all the time, but when you come you come in hot and mad and I'm so tired. What I wouldn't give to have a nice solid cock-like shit, but instead what I get is a bag of loose sand covered
Starting point is 01:34:45 in eels and slime. Why, why, God, have you done this to me? I am scared. I am scared. You are a bad element of my life and I need you to get out, out, out, out
Starting point is 01:35:01 damn spot. I am absolutely tired. Five. And I'm so, I guess, I don't think so, honey, diarrhea. Wow, and that's one minute. What I wouldn't give for a cock like shit. Let's just break down what happened there. Well, I have a lot of questions.
Starting point is 01:35:21 First of all, we had a Shakespeare reference. And then we had. And meteorites. Is it cheese? Is it pepper? Is it cheese? Is it pepper? Well, I have a lot of questions. First of all, we had a Shakespeare reference. And then we had... And Meteor Res. Is it cheese? Is it pepper? Is it cheese? Is it pepper? That's always what it could come down to.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Is it cheese? Most commonly, cheese or pepper. Right. I thought that was a masterful... I have to ask you a question because there was... I want to be clear. I'm not having diarrhea every day. Well, you want to be solid.
Starting point is 01:35:44 I am most of the time. But when it comes, it comes like a fucking gun to be clear. I'm not having diarrhea every day. Well, you want to be solid. I want, and I am most of the time. But when it comes, it comes like a fucking gun to the head. Yes. Doesn't it? Can I ask you a question? I need to ask you a question. Yeah. I was experiencing poop like this, that one we call diarrhea.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Yeah. And I'll tell you why it was. I had been over-diagnosed with antibiotics earlier in the year. Have you been on antibiotics recently? I've been on not a pill. Yeah. I don't know what it is. And I do think it's probably just dairy.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Yeah. But sorry, bitch. I'm not about to stop. Yeah. It's actually one of the hardest things to give up is cheese. Honey, is it stress? Because for me, sometimes it just comes down to stress. Sometimes it is stress.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I do recall that as I was auditioning for SNL, it was actually liquid hell. Oh, no. And then you have to be thinking about that. Yeah, and then I was like, also, like, I was like, I can only eat, like, nuts and bananas because anything is going to trigger this b-hole. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yeah, but then, like, I don't know. It goes away. But then it just comes back before you've even settled into the normal solid shit. I can't draw the boundaries between on the dates anymore for when I poop solid or when I poop liquid. Wow, that's too much. It's too much. I gotta see someone
Starting point is 01:36:52 too. The doctors can't help me. Well, this is the thing, is that it's not, it's I don't want people to feel scared for me and the last thing I want is fucking strangers messaging me being like, I can actually cure you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Well, that's fine. It's more just like-
Starting point is 01:37:07 While explicitly not asking for that- Yeah, I have. Unfortunately, you've opened the floodgates. I would also say that's maybe the worst part of sometimes having to get your hair and makeup done is they often are like, you know, you have rosacea, and that means you have a Lisburg disease, and you need to get a shot every day in your eye.
Starting point is 01:37:23 And I can actually help you if you'll follow me on Instagram and tag me. And I'm always like, holy hell. Have you heard of the rock diet? Oh. Well, I eat rocks. It rocks. If you get a shot every day in your eye.
Starting point is 01:37:37 You actually have to get a shot every day in your eye that only I can administer. And it's a really big eye-sized needle. It looks like a hammer, but it's a needle and I have to come over and use it on you. But that's what it takes to be in the industry. That's what it takes to be in the industry. Here's the thing. If anyone ever told me they were a producer,
Starting point is 01:37:54 I would let them spit on me. Oh my God. I laughed so hard my headphones fell off. All you have to do is tell me that you're a producer and I won't ask if it's film, television, music I'll be like do you want to come spit on me back in my apartment yeah honestly
Starting point is 01:38:12 you could come and post spit you could be putting your clothes back on cause I assume you want to get naked before you spit on me you could tell me after by the way will I produce shit and then get out and I'd be like hot honestly is this a bad episode? I'm scared by the way, will I produce shit? And then get out and I'd be like, hot, honestly. Is this a bad episode?
Starting point is 01:38:27 I'm scared. No. Are you kidding? Why would you say that to me? I guess because I just love the show and so when I listen, I'm like so happy and of course,
Starting point is 01:38:35 inserting myself into it is bad. No. That fucking sucks and that's wrong. It actually sucks and you actually insulted us. You insulted us
Starting point is 01:38:43 and yourself. How dare you ask if this was bad? No, it was good. Please tag me if you think it was good it would mean a lot to me i need validation can i say something though answer yeah okay then i'll say something um i feel like my energy towards you coming on the podcast was like, well, this will be one of like, like I would assume that you, by the time this podcast wraps in like, let's say 2040, we'll have like a, one of those Letterman's jacket they give to Drew Barrymore and everyone else that's hosted five times.
Starting point is 01:39:15 See, now I think of myself potentially as like your Amy Sedaris, David Letterman situation. Oh, right. Where I like come by and I'm like, I'm not promoting anything right now. So season two has long since been out. Right, right, right. But I'm here to have fun with my guys.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Yeah, absolutely. And that's how I feel. I was thinking about you as an Amy Sedaris. It's Amy on Letterman and sorry to bring work into this. I feel like-
Starting point is 01:39:36 You on Seth. No, it's you on Seth and- High compliment. It's, just hear me out. Okay, bitch. It's Tom Hanks on SNL.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Wow. It's like someone that you're just like, yes, yes, it'll be good. Just come, just come, just come. I guess what we're saying is that you can come back any damn time. Any damn time. Well, you really have been rushing me off,
Starting point is 01:39:56 especially Doug out there. Well, Doug actually, the thing is, he thought he was the only one with a weapon, and I have a very large weapon. We're maxing out the clock at 99 minutes. This is insane. Yeah, but it's not like this isn't a normal episode. I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I know, but I've been getting multiple texts from Connor being like, where are you? We're supposed to go to dinner. We're supposed to go to dinner? Tell Connor that relationships are not everything. I do, every day. Okay. This was an episode with Aidy Bryant. Please watch Shrill. Watch SNL. Okay. This is, this was an episode with 80 Bryant. Please watch shrill.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Watch SNL. Please. Please. It sounded like you were begging. No, please. God. Watch shrill because it's a great fucking show and it's made with love and I'm on it.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Like what? What do you want? What do you want? Oh, Vanessa bears is on it. Also watch shrill because, and this is gross and whatever, but my Wikipedia says that I was on Shrill
Starting point is 01:40:49 and I'm like, nope, you're thinking a joke and booster, bitch. Take it off. Oh, wow. It's still up there. Let's make a documentary. This is unreal. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Oh, yes. What you don't know is that this is the beginning of a documentary. It is. It's called Miss Americanos. Yeah. Did you guys talk about this? Yes, we did.
Starting point is 01:41:07 We did. She has to go to dinner. She has dinner at Osteria La Buca. Osteria La Buca. Osteria La Buca. Now you know where I go. That's where I'm going now. Good.
Starting point is 01:41:15 All right. So here's actually one other thing about the podcast. It always ends with a song. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. One day, one night.urdays all right online's just fine night time anytime that was like a remix. Mashup. Yeah. Bye. Welcome to Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German,
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