Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "LiterallySisterLife#" (w/ Aidy Bryant) (RE-RELEASE)

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

This is a re-release of a CLASSIC Las Culturistas episode:Matt and Bowen are joined by Queen Angel, Ms. Aidy Bryant! It’s a rollicking ride of an episode that starts off with a nutso Bill Clinton im...pression and bobs and weaves from there into uncharted territory. Topics include local commercial jingles, awards show screeners, starting out at SNL, and Matt’s two-day shoot as a “hard recurring” character on Aidy’s wonderful show “Shrill” on Hulu. Also a three-for-three batch of primo I Don’t Think So Honey’s await! Remember to subscribe to Las Culturistas right here on iHeart Radio! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And we have to talk about something. You have something to spring up on me. I almost crashed my car when I was coming here because I realized something happened, or rather did not happen, during our culture catch-up episode bitch we did not mention cats we we didn't talk about it damn see it and for that was the piece of culture where everyone was attacking us attacking us online and saying how dare you not be recording episodes when Cats is happening? I literally was like, how did we miss it? It was monumental. Well, I feel like it wasn't even bad enough
Starting point is 00:03:11 for us to talk about it in some ironic way, though. And I had to preserve my whole relationship with Cats that I've maintained for my whole life, which is that I've never seen it, will never see it. Have you not seen the movie? No. That is so stupid. I know everything about it, but I will never see it. Any incarnation seen it. We'll never see it. Have you not seen the movie? No. That is so stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I know everything about it, but I will never see it. Any incarnation. You know everything about it? A lot. Can you sing a little bit of Beautiful Ghosts for us, please? Well, that's not real. That's not canon. That's Taylor.
Starting point is 00:03:39 That's Taylor and Andrew Lloyd Webber. And Miss Webber. And Miss Webber. Taylor Webber. Taylor Webber. Okay, what do you want to talk about with cats? I just, Bowen, you're being like, what? You're being like rude.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh my God. You're actually being really rude. Okay, what do you want to talk about? Because literally it's rude that we talk about cats all the time and then I say, oh my God, can you believe this? And you say, I didn't even care. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to shoot your enthusiasm down.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I accept your apology. Okay, so let's talk about it you went to see it's very stoned Judi Dench had her human hands but none of the other cats did I think the other cats had their hands well I'll say Judi Dench had her hands it was like
Starting point is 00:04:17 it was like they said on set before they got that shot and definitely show your hands cause they're gonna be animated cause she's like this holding her hands basically in front of her face before they got that shot. And definitely show your hands because they're going to be animated. Because she's like this the whole time. Holding her hands basically in front of her face. Just like singing. They went up to Judy.
Starting point is 00:04:33 They were like, Judy, can we put the motion, the mocap balls on your hands? And she was like, absolutely not. Yeah. And in fact, I will be placing them at my, at my decolletage level just to show everyone that I would have no part of the digital for technology. It would have been fine. I feel if she had not had her wedding ring on.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Cause then once you see the, yes. Cause then once you see the wedding ring, you're like, okay, so where's the cat's husband? Like what happened? How long have they been together?
Starting point is 00:05:00 Cause the cat then has a history that we want to know about because she is the most exciting character judy den judy den we all remember her name old deuteronomy actually no it is she played old dude oh yeah she's old dude the first woman old dude the first and there had never been another woman old dudes i think it's crazy that the academy shortlisted cats for special effects or whatever that category is even though it was an unfinished special effects movie I know yes that's true what do we think of
Starting point is 00:05:32 oh we talked about best original song in the culture catch up episode Beautiful Ghost do you feel like it was snubbed I would say that it's hard because Beautiful Ghost is not a good song but nothing that was performed at the Oscars was. So then you get to the thing of like, well, you want to at least see Taylor on stage
Starting point is 00:05:51 doing Beautiful Ghost. That was Taylor's bid to be on the Dolby Theater stage. But she'll have more bids, many more bids. She will, she will. What do you think is next for her in terms of film, in terms of musicals? In terms of film, what do I think is next for Taylor Swift? Well, The Giver 2. The Giver 2, they'll do a chicago reboot yeah spring i'm sure she's gonna play
Starting point is 00:06:10 hillary um in the film about hillary's life yes it's gonna actually be about the it's gonna be about it's gonna be called hill and bill and that's actually a romantic comedy about um a young serious student named hillary rodham who was one they swept actually right off her feet when she met an amazing next president whose name was Bill Clinton and what school did they meet at and they met at Arkansas State
Starting point is 00:06:35 that's where they because that's where Bill and Hillary both went and you know the film takes a little bit of liberties like she's platinum blonde in the film and he's got like very big muscles because taylor actually plays hillary and scott eastwood plays bill and scott eastwood plays bill because they said let's get the most talented actor let's get let's reunite they said let's dream yeah right um and they said we have to get the best actors for hill and bill we gotta
Starting point is 00:07:01 make it and you know you know the classic scene from the trailer. Yeah. Oh, yes. Let's quote it. Yeah. I feel like this conversation is just starting. And I feel like you get those jowls up, girl. My what? You're pretty behind those jowls. Let me grab those boobs.
Starting point is 00:07:20 My jowls? Yes. And see. Wow. He wasn't kind to her from the beginning, we find out in the film. And you know what? She should have left him. It's a rom-com.
Starting point is 00:07:31 People make jokes about how it's playful ribbing about how the other person's ugly. That's what rom-coms are. I can't believe they picked that scene for the trailer. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's, like I said, the most famous scene from the's like I said the most famous scene from the trailer it is the most famous scene
Starting point is 00:07:48 from the trailer now readers people who can photoshop the poster please do it Hill and Bill because there's also a scene later of her
Starting point is 00:07:55 at the DNC and she says women and the glass ceiling breaks our guest has her balm on her
Starting point is 00:08:04 on her mouth. Here's the deal with our guest. And there is a deal. Oh, there's every deal. We were just saying off the air that there has been years of scheduling mishaps. This actually is in the industry of Hollywood. It's something that people talk about. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:19 How they haven't been able to get the scheduling together for this today. I think they call it development hell. Yeah. This, this episode has been in development hell, but so happy. And I can clap both my hands together like this. So happy that we could finally develop.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yes. What should have been developed many years ago. Absolutely. Unfortunately it was then in hell, but I actually think that this is coming right on time. Oh yeah. Because it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:44 because it's always Christmas because it's Christmas. No, it's literally. Oh, yeah, because it's... Because it's always right on time. Because it's Christmas. No, it's literally... When is this coming out? March. It's mid-March. It's mid-March, but... I'm 30 on this episode.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh, my God. That's cool. I'm not 30 now recording, but I will be 30 when this comes out. When this comes out, you'll be 30. Everyone wish Matt a happy 30th. Thanks. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But our guest. Our guest. I love our guest with a purity and a passion. Truly. You would diagnose yourself as loving her with a purity. With a purity? Yeah. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I could cry. I could cry. But you won't. But I won't. And this is, I'm looking at you. I'm looking at you.'re not gonna cry you're not gonna cry she she truly is the best um emmy nominated honey never forget never forget and it's about the prizes and it's about the prizes that's what she actually said that um when i first
Starting point is 00:09:36 met her i was like hey and she was like it look unless you can help me get ahead it's um i'm in this for an emmy it's about oh oh my god okay of course I was like I'm Matt by the way and she was like this is and she said whatever you say to me right now doesn't matter oh my god that sounds like her yeah that sounds just like her no just kidding she was really nice on me Matt
Starting point is 00:09:57 she's an angel of angels she is starring in season 2 of Shrill please watch it on Hulu and one of the other shows Please watch it on Hulu. And one of the other shows that she's on is Saturday Night Live, which is a variety sketch program that's broadcast live from New York.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yes. Almost every Saturday night. Almost? Some breaks. 21 weeks out of the year? Yeah. It's going on for upwards of 30 seasons. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It's over 30, the number. Over 30. Of seasons that it is. I can't wait for this. I'm so, so excited. Exploding. I'm exploding. I love her so much. Everyone, welcome into your ears.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Aidy Bryant! Oh my god. You know, I'm such a listener to the pod. No, don't listen. Don't stop. That to be here and actually sit through the intro, which I have like listened to so many others sit through before, was just how I imagined it would be.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Was it? Was it chaotic and terrifying? Chaotic. You know, it's always a little ride. I loved it. And we do land. We do land. We land.
Starting point is 00:11:03 We stick it in the warmth of a guest. I also like, you guys like do a good job of we stick it in the warmth of a guest I also like you guys like do a good job of straddling like the credits but also kind of like the human element yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:11:13 well it's like what we want to get across is our guest is talented sure but our guest is a human being too yeah you know what I mean and that's
Starting point is 00:11:19 it's really important to get across because a lot of these people they think stars they put them on a pedestal they put them on a pedestal. They put them on a pedestal. Yeah. Yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's one of the, because you see them all dressed up and you see them all dolled up on TV and you think, I bet that person is really has it all. And I did full hair and makeup. Yeah. Yeah. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Thank you for that. You're contoured. Cause she knows podcasts are a visual medium. Yeah, of course. Now, 80, did I say something in the Hill and Bill trailer that made you specifically put your hand over your mouth?
Starting point is 00:11:49 I think it was the jowls. I was like, holy shit. It's Bill! But I think also that it was like, you guys were like, it's a rom-com. But then he starts with the jowls and i assume it ends with him like fucking a 13 year old jeffy epstein like that's what it is yeah i think that honestly i didn't know this but this rom-com is a lot darker than we thought it's about how in every interaction they've had he insults her he insults her and but then jeffrey epstein played by me matthewed by Aidy Bryant. Well, I'm sorry, I messed up.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Matthew McConaughey auditioned and was cast. And then Aidy just called and said she wanted to do it and they cast her. And they cast her, absolutely. And they were like, she'd be a better Epstein. I was also shocked by like, oh, and you have a good Clinton. But like, that was a rock hard Clinton.
Starting point is 00:12:41 No, that was a rock hard erect Clinton. No, don't even. Actually, run runner for title of ep is going to be rock hard Clinton. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It actually, and it's actually not up to me. It's actually our producer, Anna. She said she just piped into my ear.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Oh, piped in. Yeah, I get that. I get that. I actually have a permanent chip put in my ear where I can have producers at any time talk to me i love it i love it i love it now ad what is your vibe in la because i this is i'm seeing you in a different setting and i really i'm picking up on a different energy oh yeah thank you so much i've been waiting for this question from anyone for a week. What's your LA vibe? I think my LA vibe is like pretty high. I'm doing like a lot of like, oh, I got to get to this dispensary and that dispensary. But I'm also like very, I'm like cash.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I think I'm pretty cash in a way that like in New York you're gonna see me in a boot. Not that I'm formal but it's a boot city. And I feel like here I'm like I'm in my vans hanging ten. You can wear flat shoes out here and no one yells. Yeah. No one's like that woman needs to be in a heel
Starting point is 00:14:00 or a boot. Sure but then the bag culture not only is crazy because if you're walking down the street, I've said this before, with a tote bag, God forbid, then you get the craziest looks. And people can actually smell the foreignness on you. I see.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And there's no backpack people in Los Angeles. No. Yeah. And I do definitely feel that people are clocking, like, you don't belong here, you fucking bitch. Yes. To you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Why? Do you think it's because they think belong here you fucking bitch like to you yeah why do you think it's because you're they think you're a fucking bitch or because they they have seen you associated with new york so many times like i think it's i'm famously in new york yeah no no no i do think it is just um it's like we wear too much black yeah and like we're a little too dressed up yeah i don't know i feel like i go to like a friend's birthday and I'm like, I look like I'm in a goddamn ball gown and I'm humiliated. Listen, it is. You do have to adjust to the thing in L.A. of like my friends will get ready for like a lunch. And it is a capital A, capital L lunch.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I mean, we're going to a place, but we're wearing like like truly like socks and a sandal and like a big shirt. And no, we didn't do a shower. So our hair is weird. You know what I mean? And you can go out like that in Los Angeles. It is a thing. I think people find that charming in Los Angeles. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That's true. Whereas in New York, I, yeah. I love that this is exactly where we started with the podcast. It's like, how is LA and New York different? Well, he asked you the question. I asked you, what's your LA vibe? Why are you laughing? That's an earnest question.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Oh my God. It's good. It's good. We love LA. And actually, I think to myself every damn day how happy I am that I live six minutes away from the Universal Studios Hollywood. I pass it on the way to work and I see Hogwarts.
Starting point is 00:15:46 That's perfect for you. There's no Hogwarts in New York. That's true. No. No. Were you about to say something? Was I? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I was just having a nice time talking about how I have two friends who have been hosts and winners at major awards. Wow. Because it's about the prizes. Did you write an Emmy speech when you were nominated?
Starting point is 00:16:08 No, I didn't. Amy Puller gets mad when people don't do that. She says it in her book. Really? She says, I always feel like it's crazy when people don't write a speech. I remember that was the only part of Yes, Please! I get why. I was just like, no way am I going to win.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But you could have been the and-out that night. Wow. But I wasn't. To be the and-out. I going to win. But you could have been the endowed that night. Wow. But I wasn't. I don't know. I mean, God bless the Emmys. It means everything to everyone everywhere. And I know that this show
Starting point is 00:16:37 is often about talking about who was nominated and whatever. I do find it to be absolutely toxic. It's a horror. It's a horror. A hellish thing. Yeah. And, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I was just talking about this with someone the other day. We're like, sometimes if you look back at like past winners, you're like, oh, this is not darkly meaningless. Yes. I don't know. Darkly meaningless. I'm like, literally, sometimes I will hear, like when you did Andy Cohen, and he asked what you thought about something someone did,
Starting point is 00:17:11 you said three words which were like so, just your grasp of vocabulary. Sometimes I actually blown away. The economy of words. You have a way with words. You just said, I want this on paper. I do find it to be an absolutely, and then I honestly stopped because I needed to,
Starting point is 00:17:27 but what did you just, you just, the way you just described, horror filled, hellish, toxic and hellish. That's what you said. I do find it to be an absolutely toxic and hellish thing.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Imagine that pull quote. Glamour. Darkly, darkly meaningless. Aidy Bryant on the Emmy Awards. Wow. I do find it to be don't do this
Starting point is 00:17:46 do not do this to me Matt do not don't Hulu and NBC will have my head it means everything to me she said that
Starting point is 00:17:56 she said that in the same pull quote it's amazing this woman is all over the world I am nothing without the industry I need it if they value me I'm better as a person.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Oh, God. They make me sick. The industry? Yes. That's what I... The industry. They make me sick. I do think it's absolutely dangerous to...
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yes! Well, first, I'll say this. Fame is a disease. Yeah, for sure. That is killing anyone who experiences it okay yeah people who don't even experience it it's killing that's right and i've maybe never identified more with anyone than britney spears in the moment when she like shaved her head yes like i often through the smallest things i'm like that's it. Get the clippers. Bye, fuckers.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I'm going to the woods. I can't do this anymore. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No, don't. But at the same time, it's like you can't. Disengage. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It's like if I, I don't know, if I engaged too deeply with like the women of the year or the glamour or any website, or any- Girlboss Award goes to- It's like, it's a dark thing to chase, I think. It's Waham. It's Waham.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I was thinking about Waham the whole time. It's a lot of Waham. Yeah. I'm a little biased. It's my favorite episode of season two of Shrill. Written by one and only Soupy Green. The Soupy Soupy herself.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Starring Matt Rogers. Starring, of course. Come on. I was the lead. Lead? Lead Matt Rogers? Wait, I realized something before. And Matt has a huge onset energy,
Starting point is 00:19:35 I gotta say. Yes, tell me about this day because I only heard bits and pieces of it. Well, it was two days. Oh! They called me a hard recurring. Actually, when you look at when you look at the credits
Starting point is 00:19:48 it says also starring guest star mine said hard recurring hard recur Matt Rogers that refers to your rock hard rock hard Clinton I am going to start calling my penis my Clinton that's actually up to you how you feel
Starting point is 00:20:03 it's none of my business how you feel. This is a crazy episode. But I just want to say, I did come in a little hot because, like I said, Sudi and I were at Universal Studios Hollywood, and we did talk about the darkness of fame on the way in. Wow. Yes, we were talking about Lindsay Lohan and saying, you want to know what?
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's because she wasn't surrounded by good people. So that was what we said as we were scanning our tickets to go on the Transformers ride. I said this to you yesterday. I was like, my theory is that Lindsay was not surrounded by good gays. She had bad gays. You said this. And then today we were talking about how. So, OK, quickly this.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And then I want to say the thing I found out on the set of Shrill. Oh, my God. He's got so much much paper and pen work. You guys don't even know. This is our first time with notepads. I've literally never once used a notepad. I'm actively using it this episode. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And every time I'm like, okay, something big's going on. Something big's coming. So, Sudi and I were saying that when you're in any way involved in entertainment, and the famousness aspect of it becomes a thing like you really have to ask yourself why you're doing it yeah and i think like people who don't know why end up getting taken advantage of by the media because they like want to do more and more and they'll just play ball and they'll keep playing ball and they'll keep going it's like we see it happening now it's like people just can't stop getting
Starting point is 00:21:24 attention and that's how they get themselves into holes sometimes and they get keep going. It's like, we see it happening now. It's like people just can't stop getting attention and that's how they get themselves into holes sometimes and they get fucked up. But there's people who I think tell the industry, this is why I think people like Pink and Kelly Clarkson and music are like,
Starting point is 00:21:35 have longevity because they say, just so you guys know, I don't need this. And they have that energy. Yeah. Meanwhile, someone like Lindsay Lohan,
Starting point is 00:21:44 like I don't think ever knew why she wanted to be famous she never examined that in herself right exactly yeah and and she never found out like why it was that she was doing it wasn't her parents was it something with her was it something that she needed to expression exactly was it about the art ever and i think that because you're too young and don't know enough to like figure that out or activate that in your life or do something about it you get fucked up by the industry because they'll keep taking from you absolutely and and i just feel like people that you know maybe they haven't been super famous so they've had the time to ruminate on it or like they just always they
Starting point is 00:22:21 got famous later like people like i'll say it again, like because we saw Kelly's pillboards everywhere at Universal Studios Hollywood. And I was like, she's huge now. And I was like, I think it's because she always was like, I can take or leave it. So that's just something I was talking about with Sudi today on the topic of darkness of fame, which pertains to this episode.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Which pertains to this. That's what this episode is about. It actually pertains to it. Pertains. Tell me about these two days of shooting. Yeah, Matt, I would love to hear your take because, you know, I'm absolutely everywhere. Aidy was actually editing a script
Starting point is 00:22:58 while she was shooting that episode. It is no joke. She is truly crazy how hard she works. That's sweet. The best there is. Okay. And Sudi always says all the time, it's like she's inspired by truly crazy how hard she works. That's sweet. The best there is. Okay. And Sudi always says all the time, it's like she's inspired by you and how hard you work.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Sudi is an angel in my life. An angel in each one of our lives. And also was truly my entry point to you two, like where long before I met Bowen, I like was listening to Las Culturistas. That is cuckoo. And now all the friends are here. The friends are here.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And we're at the table and I can say that after working with 80 on the program shrill, I actually did have a bone to pick because I was cast in the series. I had a actually pivotal role in the episode of Waham, which was written by Sudi, as we said.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Now the character, he did not have written by Sudi, as we said. Yes. Now, the character. Oh. He did not have a name. A name. His name was Handler. Yes. So, I said to myself, I would like to give him a name. Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Very close, Bellen. Okay. You're a sister to me. Yes. Literally sister life. Literally sister life. Literally sister life. Hashtag.
Starting point is 00:24:02 At the end. At the end. At the end of the words. Now, I said to myself, I'm doing a backstory for the character of Handler. He is Chelsea Handler's cousin. Wow. And he met Vanessa's character, who I work for, in the film Shrill. The film Shrill, of course.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Every episode is a film, I think. I agree show, of course. Every episode is film. I agree and I want an Oscar badly. Yes. Actually, Oscars can go to TV shows now. Marriage Story. That's true. I think that they met at a white woman event that Chelsea Handler was at and she said,
Starting point is 00:24:41 you should meet my cousin. That's how he got the job. His last name actually is Handler. Mr. Handler was at. And she said, you should meet my cousin. And that's how he got the job. So his last name actually is Handler. Mr. Handler. Mr. Handler. And his first name is, say it with me. Chastain.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yes. Chastain Handler. Chastain, not said weird as Chastin. No. Actually spelled like Jessica Chastain's last name. Wow. No relation.
Starting point is 00:25:03 That's really nice. That's beautiful. So that's actually, that was who I was on set. You weren't actually interacting with Matt. You were interacting with Chastain. And that's how it felt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And that's how it felt. Okay, so Engineer Doug is telling us to go to break. We'll be right back. And I want to hear, no, I want to hear more about this. I really do. I wasn't sure what to do there for a second, but Doug is over there behind the glass saying,
Starting point is 00:25:24 break, break. I'm like, yes, okay. And he's got a weapon, so we gotta go. We gotta go. We'll be right back with Aidy Bryant. And we're back. And we're back. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through
Starting point is 00:25:47 did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:26:12 He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
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Starting point is 00:26:57 available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts,
Starting point is 00:27:37 you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of I heart women's sports. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Guess what folks? We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude. And dudes on dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers,
Starting point is 00:28:22 guys that we played against legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dude. We got dogs. Dogs.
Starting point is 00:28:35 We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:29:00 So, actually, I want to hear you tell me more about the day. That was so fun. I want to know more about the day that was so fun i want to know details about the day it was just very fun because it was like an absolute all-star squad where like natasha leone was directing vanessa bear also starring and greta and sudi and and mad it was just like so fun oh my god how amazing is nat Natasha Lyonne as a director? Oh my God. Like, you worked with her as well. I worked with her very briefly.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, on Nora. On Nora. This is a table of actors. A table of actors. It actually is a table of actors, and we picked up on the fact that Natasha Lyonne, our director, had also come from acting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, you could actually pick that up. You could actually pick that up. That's actually true. On set, you had a feeling. Yeah, you had a feeling like, you actually know how to talk to me. And no one does. And that's what I say every time I get to a set.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm like, no one here knows how to talk to me. Except for Natasha. Yeah, finally. No, she's unbelievable. Maybe for the... I can't do an impression. What? Did you just try to launch
Starting point is 00:30:03 an impression of Natasha Lyonne here and now? And you went, maybe. Maybe for this. No. You can't. You have to edit this out. You can't do this. No.
Starting point is 00:30:18 It's in our contract with iHeartRadio. We can make no edits. We can make no edits. That's absolutely very bad for me. Yeah. And for everyone involved. This episode is actually what. That's absolutely very bad for me. Yeah. For everyone involved. This episode is actually what we call a steel trap prison.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Oh. Yes. A steel trap internet prison. Oh my God. Hit me with the hard ones then and I'll absolutely crumble. Okay, thoughts on Second Amendment?
Starting point is 00:30:36 No. No. No. No. All she's saying is no. I think, do we think it's time to ask the question?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, because I don't think you can probably, unless you want to take one more crack at the Nazatia Leon. Do you want to? Yeah. You know, for this sake. No. Maybe try. What is she, Fran Drescher?
Starting point is 00:31:02 You're so bad. I think you need to go lower hun you're so bad I don't know I feel really awful what are you talking I feel bad about myself we're not talking
Starting point is 00:31:10 we're not talking about this I can't bring this energy this is an impressions showdown wait do you want to hear an impression that I do yeah I have one too so we can all go
Starting point is 00:31:22 okay okay okay I'm Sandy Kenyon and this is Movie Minute that's good that's really good and here's my Ariana Grande hi everybody
Starting point is 00:31:30 it's me yes that's really good wait that was like Mickey Mouse oh my god what are your impressions okay okay
Starting point is 00:31:37 now you might not famous ones that we all know from watching your sketch Matt fucking shut up fine okay
Starting point is 00:31:44 are you ready? I'm not going to say who it is because I think you'll know. Yes, yes. Okay, ready? Hey, man. Wait, that was a bad one. Let me try it again.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I think I know who that is. No, wait. I need to focus and actually try again. Matt, stop. Okay. Hey, man. No, I'm panicking. It is Bart Simpson.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I can do it better. That wasn't good oh my god oh my god Sudi tried to do a Bart today too because you went on the Simpsons ride
Starting point is 00:32:10 and I was like shut up I have I think I've tried to do my Bart for Sudi and she said it was bad but I really think
Starting point is 00:32:17 I'm good you actually are amazing and it was really good wait I said it was close you actually are amazing and it was really good that's my pull quote
Starting point is 00:32:24 I was gonna guess it was Marc. You actually heard amazing and it was really good. That's my pull quote. I was going to guess it was Marc Maron. Wow. And that hurts. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That was better. That was good. That was a good part. That was better. That was a good part. You know, after I left my interview with Lauren, I had to go back. Oh, my God. That's my Marc. You better not.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You better not. You better watch your ass. I've been on that podcast. She's been on the pod. Have you? Yes. That's actually goals for me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Oh, it actually, it really was like so fun. It's pretty cool. And he's very insightful and asks great questions. I agree. I agree. You know, someone said that we were the gay WTF. I think that's true. Do you feel that way?
Starting point is 00:33:02 Yeah. Big time. That's fun. That's actually huge. That's actually huge. That's actually huge. And we're not nearly as insightful. No, but are you? No, you are.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Are you kidding me? I've cried multiple times listening to the pod. Not from our insight. Yes. I think sometimes when you guys deeply talk about your friendship or growing, I'm like, damn, this is extremely real and extremely like heartfelt and true. I think that it helped that we literally thought that 0.000 people would listen to it in the beginning
Starting point is 00:33:33 because it set a tone and we're still able to do that. I wonder if we like sold a podcast now, like if it would be, we would even think to like share anything real. I know. You know what I mean? I have a question. Oh, yes. But before we ask the question. like, share anything real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I have a question. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Before we ask the question. No, no, no. Yes, please. When you're writing Shrill, is it, no, this, because talking about bringing real life to things.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah. How, because it's based on Lindy's like work. Yeah, her book. Yes, but I would imagine that everyone's stories
Starting point is 00:34:03 go into it. Yeah, totally. How many personal stories are in the show where you're like, that is so real? You know, it's really a mix. And it also, like, you know, I feel like the first season especially, we were, like, a lot tighter to the book. And now the second season, we definitely, like, are a little bit looser. And so there's pieces of, of you know and that's what a writer's room is it's like you're breaking the
Starting point is 00:34:28 story together and adding little pieces to build a whole thing but definitely I mean like in the second season there's a scene where I like barf and then we like say spoiler like say I love you to each other and that was like something that did happen to me like I don't know I
Starting point is 00:34:44 have many like things where I'm like, that's straight from, from the book of my life or whatever. But, but it's all like in an effort to tell something bigger or whatever, you know? But like, I do think like deciding on those like emblematic details that tell
Starting point is 00:35:00 something about the story is like kind of what you have to find. And often it's hard to kind of pull those out of thin air. And it is easier to like kind of reach back to like something in your own life and twist it up or whatever. Sure. And then when you're doing it, like and like when you're like acting
Starting point is 00:35:17 like the experience that you've already had, is it, does it like scramble your brain a little bit to be like, I gotta like stick to like what this authentically was? You know, the only time where it maybe kind of did that was in the first season, the fourth episode, which is like the pool party episode. And like, and doing like, I kind of had like this like long monologue after words where I'm like kind of processing the day and like that was maybe one of the only times where I was like like at times just because I was like man I kind of haven't been to this place in a long time like in my mind yeah like uh I don't talk to myself this way like in or you know those
Starting point is 00:35:58 kinds of like hateful self-thoughts I really don't go there in the same in like towards my body and stuff like that. I just don't, you know? And it was kind of hard to like go to that place of like having that epiphany or something. I don't know. This sounds very like actorly and lame,
Starting point is 00:36:14 but it was like, it was a little like freaky that day, you know? Yeah. And that's, that's, I've told you this. It's,
Starting point is 00:36:23 that's a huge, huge, huge episode for everyone watching it because there's some analog to like another aspect to anyone who's watching that's like,
Starting point is 00:36:33 like I, like watching that episode, I was like, this is what bubble tea is. Have I told you? This is like what like me, like going to like an all Asian queer party
Starting point is 00:36:42 is in New York. I'm just like, what the fuck? I like, what the fuck? I did not know this existed. And then processing it afterwards was mapped out exactly to that episode where I was like, I did not know how to process it afterwards
Starting point is 00:36:54 for a long time. Yeah. And I think sometimes even seeing something where you're like, oh my God, this is so my shit or whatever. It can be very hard to afterwards be like wow i've had 20 some years of like a lot of pain and shame and self-hatred for like kind of no reason yeah like
Starting point is 00:37:14 i mean not no reason but it's definitely like it is a little bit like you've agreed to live in this system that yes now we all agree fucking sucks. It sucks. And that we're like trapped in because we all know it, but it's one of those things that you can't just agree to all change. Totally.
Starting point is 00:37:32 It's just like a mindset. I will say one of my favorite things about the show is that it really, really authentically and like tonally just right gets those specific emotional situations across like and those dialogues that you have with other people when you're talking about real shit for example like in the waham episode i said it to sudi i was like i gotta give kudos to all you guys because the conversation that you and john cameron mitchell have after you come back. I am obsessed with that scene.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And you've come back from Waham and you're like, I think it was fucked up, but also women were enjoying it. And it's very much like an observation on those sorts of things which have a high price point and you go and there is community, but you are being taken advantage of
Starting point is 00:38:19 if you choose to think of it that way. And I thought that that scene between you and him was so truthfully and authentically a scene of two people working it out. Like you really like were so good in that scene. You were so good in that scene. It was such good writing.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And it moves the story forward too, because it's like, Oh, like these two characters haven't interacted in this way. Right. Exactly. And actually like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:42 John's performance there, it's like for the first time ever, he was like really, the character was really engaging with her as like a pupil in a way. And almost like he was challenging her. And I thought that that was just like, like a comedic examination of something. Cause it's like, you really presented the totality of that kind of experience, which must be, I should be enjoying this. I am not.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Am I fucked up? Is this fucked up? Are we both kind of like, I feel like that's like most of the human experience where like your whole, I don't know, this is like a oversimplification, but like your whole high school experience, you're like, when I get to college, I'm going to be a different life. And then you get to college and you're like, I don't know anybody. I'm scared or whatever. You know, it's like it's always that way where you kind of like think something is good, but then you get in it and you're like, I think this is bad.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's too complicated, and nothing is black and white good. I was so impressed by that particular scene, because now that I'm in a writer's room, I know how hard it is with a lot of people to write something that feels like a conversation that's really between two people. There's so much more that goes into like writing TV and creating TV than you think.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And so put something that's so felt so real, like, and so honest and really kind of like about what it was about on screen. I thought it was like, wow. Oh my God. Yeah. Loved.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Loved. Wow. And you know something? I, it didn't dawn on me until like way after the fact that like this season, this most recent season, used like song covers as a plot device.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And I was just like, I didn't realize until after. I mean, this is obviously intentional, but I was like, oh wait, Peter singing God Only Knows. Thank God you brought it up.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And, and Annie singing It's All Coming Back to Me. Yes. And, and Lolly singing fucking Lolly's whole performance this season. Lolly is unreal.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Emily, Fightmaster, incredible. That relationship, that arc, you love to see it. Emily, a star. A star. Oh, and they're a very hot person. And I think it's okay to say.
Starting point is 00:41:06 One of the most gorgeous people in the world. They are too hot. It's actually a crime. And I hate them. Sorry, now I hate them. Now we hate them. But the song selection, all very queer songs. Can I reveal something? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I put my ass on tape doing Peter Smith's role so this is what happened this is BTS there is a tape which I didn't want to take
Starting point is 00:41:36 and you were very funny Matt you were so funny which was kind of not the point Peter's very funny in the beginning but it quickly turns. It's real. And so Peter is the star.
Starting point is 00:41:50 The star. But because I knew Sudi had written this Handler part for me. Yes. We actively in the writer's room were like, this will be Matt. This truly bitchy king gay assistant. You're so good at it it was really fun do you remember Matt I also tried to pressure you to sing
Starting point is 00:42:09 on the stage you were like you should sing you were looking at the ground kicking your feet and you were like sing a little witch I was like get up there and just like sing something I think I did a little bit I think a little tiny bit you did
Starting point is 00:42:23 I think I said to like cause the character has to like get everyone up out of their seats and I think one of a little bit. I think a little tiny bit you did. I think I said to like, cause the character has to like get everyone up out of their seats. And I think one of the times I came out and I was like, get up, get up. They were just like, what was that?
Starting point is 00:42:34 Natasha Lyonne was like, what did you do? Yes. And, um, so that didn't make the cut. Oh no. Get up,
Starting point is 00:42:43 get up. That's actually a hit. Get up. Get up. That's actually a hit. Get up. Get up. Oh. You gotta get up. I don't know. We're gonna workshop it. And it's not gonna be for us. It'll be for Dua. For Dua. Absolutely almost 45 minutes into this.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That's actually gonna be for Dua. I think it's time we add. No, stop. Because I'm still talking about we ask. No, stop. What? I'm still talking about being on set. Oh, yes. Jesus. Okay, I'm done. Oh.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Anyway, watch Shrill. Please. Please watch it. How are you feeling? Do me a favor. Please watch Shrill. Tell your friends. How are you feeling about season two? Like, now that it's been out.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Oh, it's so nice. Yeah. Yeah. It is really. It's a very different, because I don't know, being on SNL is like so great, but it's definitely like when people come up, they're like, hey, you're funny. Or like whatever, you know, it's just like a quick. And I would imagine people are like, what you've done. It's just so much more intense.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It's so much, but it's also incredibly meaningful. And like, I really make an effort to like like I can't respond to everything that comes in. But I like I really read it all as much as I can. And it really, really like, you know, when I'm like fighting about the marketing of the show or all those things, there are times where I'm like, what the fuck is this for? And then I'm like, no, that's what it's for. I do it for the goddamn girls. Like, yeah, that is literally why I wanted to do this and why I started and what I wanted as a child. So, like, to be doing that, it is a dream.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Like, it's a total dream. I feel like the impact is outsize. It's, like, huge. Like, I feel like there is some, like, really, really, like, visible, like, real, tangible, cultural, like like moving of the dial a little bit with this. Like truly all of it. I don't know if that's true. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Like watching it and hearing Sudi talk about it, maybe like that's like my little like unfair supplement that I have to all this is hearing Sudi like talk through the process and like talk through the show and what the room is like and she has nothing but good things to say about it.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm just like, oh, like this is a huge show that like she's opening my eyes to all this stuff that like i never give a second thought to well you know i'll tell you one wild small experience that i've had which has been like extremely like active fit like instagram like food freaks kind of who are like i only eat seeds yeah but i've been tagged in like multiple things from women like that yeah who basically are like i gotta say i used to watch the show thinking like fat people were lazy and gross and i now like have empathy and feel for them and i understand that
Starting point is 00:45:17 like they're human beings too and that to me was like holy fuck yeah how do you take that one like I know but you know what it's positive grateful for it because to me that's like what TV can do yeah it's like make you see people who are unlike yourself and you're like oh I'm interested in care about them or whatever yeah and also we all know
Starting point is 00:45:40 it's like hard to get truly anything made and the fact that like you've gotten something made that like does is meaningful to people and also is like so funny and great. Like, and it's gone on. It's just like, I'm sure it should be something that every day when you drink your coffee,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you think, wow. When I, when I talk about the cultural impact, I just mean that it's like good for the city of Portland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:46:08 That's all it is. For Tusk, we love Tusk. I was merely only talking about, like it's great that people, it empowers them, but I was talking about the Portland community. Yes. That I'm happy that people there get to work,
Starting point is 00:46:23 and the coffee people. Yeah. Like when you're on your way to set, I'm concerned that they're working. Yeah, and I want to be clear that people there get to work and the coffee people. Yeah. Like when you're on your way to set, I'm concerned that they're working. Yeah, and I want to be clear that I think what me having a TV show is more important than pediatric surgeons or anyone doing that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I don't even know what a pediatric surgeon does. I don't even know. I don't know what pediatrics is. Doug. Orthopedic, pediatric, chiropractic. It's actually all the same to me. It's all the same. Doug just raised his sign.
Starting point is 00:46:48 He said ad break or else. So we'll be right back with. Ad break or else? Or else. We'll get into this. He's a very big weapon. Very big weapon. This fall on Bravo.
Starting point is 00:46:59 It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Or his relatives in Miami. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.
Starting point is 00:48:57 We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby and iHeart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes.
Starting point is 00:49:55 What kind of types of dudes are there, Grunks? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dudes. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast and we're back okay it's time to ask and now we have to ask the question i'm gonna hand it off to you because here's the thing we actually said on our new podcast we're gonna do after our first ad break we're always gonna ask the question and then here's the thing we were having too much fun
Starting point is 00:50:39 and spun off which i actually had a feeling what happened on this episode. I knew it would. I didn't even have a feeling. So one of the things about this podcast is that we ask every guest the same question. And the only person we haven't asked is Margaret Cho because we got too scared. But we are going to ask you because I feel
Starting point is 00:50:59 very comfortable. And I feel comfortable enough to ask the question that we've asked to everyone else, which is what is the culture that made you ad bryant say culture was for you this was the defining pop culture that came in a moment where you were like oh me i'm in that i'd like to develop from based on this point you know i've listened to the show you have many times oh well then we could have really saved me a lot of breath but so i definitely like you know there are things where i've i feel some overlap with like other previous guests of course you know imagine they're all dead yeah yeah i will say i was big into greece i was big into you know freaking pee freaking Pee Wee Herman. But I was thinking about this this morning
Starting point is 00:51:47 because I knew I was coming here. I think I know where you were coming from. You remember you were coming? John Waters? No. Oh, I do find, I feel like I found John Waters later though. Like it wasn't the first.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Sure, sure, yeah, yeah. But John Waters is big. Okay, then I guessed wrong. I think what I have to say is like local commercials in Phoenix, Arizona, where I grew up. It so often was like the wife of a man who owned a furniture store. Who was like, and now I'm going to sing on camera. And like that for me was, I just like, even as a child, I knew like, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Or like, I love her. Here's Cheryl Towson with the theme. Lights, camera, action, mattress. Okay, there was one woman whose name was Debbie Gaby. And she was like very Southern. And she was like, hi, I'm Debbie Gaby. And then she would, there was a song with it. She worked at a place called Sleep America.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And she was like, Sleep America, where America goes to sleep. Which is absolute nonsense. Sleep America, where America goes to sleep. Can I ask something annoying? Yeah, please. Is this the inspiration behind Our Waterbeds Are the Best? Absolutely, yes.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Actually, that was based on a woman, a different Arizona commercial, where this woman started singing these jazzy songs, and the song was like, Express flooring is the best, call 1-800-EXPRESS. And she did a little head bob there. Can you sing one?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Make one up or from your childhood. But National American University we all had, right? One day, one night, Saturday's alright. Online's justified. Nighttime, anytime.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Get your degree. Set yourself free. National American University. Holy fuck. Oh my god. That's single. It's a soaring melody. I love it.
Starting point is 00:53:57 It's genius. Whoever wrote that, God bless. That was unbelievable. I've never heard that. I'm freaked. That was really good. National American University. That was unbelievable. I've never heard that. I'm freaked. That was really good. National American University.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And the ads were, it was one person singing this, an amazing voice. Gender is unclear, but it actually works perfectly because they cut to different people, generic people just lip syncing to it. Just smile on their face, just lip syncing to the track. And it's beautifully, beautifully done. And then was it like personal injury, like lawyers too? Oh my God. We had one that was 1-800-STEAMERS.
Starting point is 00:54:33 That's incredible. There was another one. It was like they would steam your clothes. Yes. And then there was a... Oh, steam your clothes. Not carpets?
Starting point is 00:54:40 No, I don't know. It gotta be carpet. Yeah. 1-800-STEAMERS isn't for clothes. They don't know i gotta be carpet yeah 1-800-STEAMER-DIZZY for clothes they don't have that money okay there was also i i have to say there was i think for me what like i was grabbing on to was like there was an element of like sex yeah and like performance yeah that i wasn't finding like in loose arizona yeah you know and it was such like an element of like she's taking her moment and getting on cam i don't know it affected me it is
Starting point is 00:55:14 that is an energy and also it's like there's something about like how many takes there's something about what did was she involved in the writing process of the jingle? There's something about what's that relationship. Here's one that I really liked. So this is from Sports Radio in the morning. Okay. Okay. So this was the theme. Sports Radio 66,
Starting point is 00:55:39 WFAN, New York. You know that? Well, you've sang it in the past. It's very good. And it was a show about baseball and football and all those things. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You don't have to go to Hollywood to get a Hollywood tan. To get a Hollywood tan. Oh my God. To get a... That's beautiful. What a beautiful little lilts and grace notes. Amy, what were you going to say?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Well, I was just going to say, I also feel like part of it was that there was a little Western flavor, like a little Southwestern taste. You like country? You know, I'm not a huge country head. I like the older stuff, but as a child, my next door neighbor,
Starting point is 00:56:24 he worked, I think, for some sort of country music station. And he was a DJ. And so I was always like, yeah, I'm kind of in the industry. Well, because part of this was because I have a feeling that I feel like we all kind of attach to these commercials in a way. For us, for us little show people, we're like, oh, there's an entry point for entertainment that is kind of accessible and attainable. And it's in my town. And it's in my town. This was made in my town, which was big to me.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Hashtag Arizona. Hashtag Arizona. But there was one that was for this casino that was kind of on the outside edge of town and it was like a montage of like poker chips and like hot women
Starting point is 00:57:10 in red dresses and I'm gonna sing it for you now are you ready? Yeah go we love that Wild horse pass on the east side
Starting point is 00:57:17 V-Cweaver on the west Go to the river Healer River Casino Where the winners go. Heal the river casino, where the winners go. That's actually really emotional. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And it's like, who fucking wrote it? Who wrote it? Honestly, I just had chills thinking about it. And like, you know, think of me like fat, 12, rosacea, one tooth, absolutely sunburned, and just being like, I'm gonna go to the river. To the river. Where the winners go. It's transformative.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Now, we're talking about this casino that's in Arizona. Can I tell you something that I've noticed about Arizona? Please. A lot of state pride. Or maybe I just watch
Starting point is 00:58:14 The View every day. She's always like, Arizona girl. Yeah. Megan. Megan. And you went to high school with Megan.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yes, and you know, she loves to say this and we did not know each other. We went to high school with Megan. Yes, and you know, she loves to say this, and we did not know each other. We went to high school together. She was a senior when I was a freshman. And that's like a gap, a chasm that you can't really cross. I mean, like, no freshmen talk to seniors.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Well, also, like, her dad had a computer lab named after him. In the school? Yeah. I would imagine that every elementary school and every school there has a McCain printing lab. Yeah, I think it was based on donations and stuff. Sure, sure, sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And especially now. There's something about, okay, Colorado is literally hundreds and hundreds of miles away. No, but it's the same. It's the West. No, it's the West. It's actually the same.
Starting point is 00:59:01 There is this arid culture. I mean, I don't mean literally the farmland is arid. It's just like everyone's brains are bad. You are absolutely a villain. No, I'm not. Can I tell you something? What you're doing today, you're attacking culture. I'm not attacking culture.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So you're attacking arid culture and you're attacking Arizona and the whole West. Wow. And you've attacked the jowls of a young Hillary. I'm just saying, growing up in Colorado, this is like truth. And I'm so grateful for like, whatever, like just growing up around all the Mormons and the whatevers and the ski people. But like, it was not meant for a little gay Asian boy like me to thrive in. I agree with you completely that like I feel like a little bit like Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico. It's like important to be normal.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yes. Like it's very like that is their culture is like everybody's kind of the same. Right. We all kind of dress the same. It's important that we're having normal, nice lives, which, you know, I think is very comfortable. But if you're not feeling like you fit into that normal, you're like, holy fuck. I can't exist here a little bit. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:19 If you have New York values. Well, this is the thing. Thank you. And fashion. And a boot. You wear boots in New York? Wait Well, this is the thing. Thank you. And fashion is trash. And a boot. You wear boots in New York? Wait. And a cowboy boot.
Starting point is 01:00:29 And a cowboy boot in New Orleans. I, okay, no one's brains are bad in there. In there. Some people, it's just not for people. No, they're actually burned by the sun. The brains are bad. Yeah, the brains are actually bad. Some of them are really bad.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Because they don't wear sunscreen on their scalp. I'm just saying, like, it's a weird ass place. My thing about, I love Denver. But when we went, I told you, right? Brittany Colston. Yeah. You've attacked this girl before. I have not attacked her.
Starting point is 01:00:55 She literally saw me 10, 11 years after me and Pat Regan eating burritos at Legal Pete's before our show. Before I Don't Think So, Honey. She comes up to me. Pete's before our show before I don't think so honey she comes up to me she goes Bowen I haven't seen you in forever I thought you were going to be a doctor you were always so good at math I'm like get away from me girl and truly but then she said the bleakest thing to me which was
Starting point is 01:01:17 it's crazy that you went to New York cause no one leaves here and I was like you cannot do this you need to like you cannot do this damn you need to like you need to like tell me how beautiful it is to live here
Starting point is 01:01:31 yeah I would say like I am like rooting for Denverites all the fucking way I've never been to Denver you gotta go Denver's
Starting point is 01:01:38 Denver's phenomenal now that was one of our best shows I don't think it's only live in Denver I'm just guys when I talk about Denver when I talk about Colorado I mean growing up there yes oh please whenever I make reference to Long. I don't think it's only live in Denver. I'm just, guys, when I talk about Denver, when I talk about Colorado, I mean growing up there.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yes. Oh, please. That's whenever I make reference to Long Island, I always talk about it. It's, it's,
Starting point is 01:01:50 it's how I interact. Yes, yes, yes. Cause you have to understand something. I don't know when you guys realize this about yourself, but I remember when I realized
Starting point is 01:01:58 I had New York values. I actually do. What did you realize? I actually remember the moment I realized, oh my God, I think I have New York values
Starting point is 01:02:06 yeah when was it yeah don't leave us on the fucking edge I'm edging over here yeah I actually remember the moment
Starting point is 01:02:14 I was watching American Idol oh okay and Ryan Seacrest said you're going to Hollywood and I you thought I want to go I thought And Ryan Seacrest said, you're going to Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And I... You thought, I want to go. I thought, Hollywood. And I came in my pants. And that was also when I realized what that was. Because that had never happened before. And that first time is always like, what's happening? And so then I was really uncomfortable. And I was kind of walking around in school.
Starting point is 01:02:47 And I was scared to talk to the health teacher. Yeah. So anyway. This is obscene. I didn't know where I was going with the New York values thing. No, it was good. It was good. It was good.
Starting point is 01:03:00 So you and Megan are probably the two most famous people from your hometown. No, I think Emma Stone What? Another Arizona girl Really? Do you guys bond about that? We've talked about it definitely, we did go to the same high school also Yes, but did you guys know each other?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Barely, barely I mean, she was a freshman when I was a sophomore Oh, but a smaller gap Yeah, a smaller gap But no, I don't know I gap. Yeah, a smaller gap. A smaller gap, for sure. But no, I don't know. I definitely, I feel like, at least with these commercial women,
Starting point is 01:03:30 I was very like, I think those are all the characters that I play on SNL now. Yeah. You know, I don't know. You are very good at, and this is something that Sudie is very good at, too. When we were doing Sketch Together,
Starting point is 01:03:44 she was very good at playing like that girl, you know, or that woman, you know, that you thought you were the only person who knew. Like my favorite is when you played the woman on the airport, on the airplane. Well,
Starting point is 01:03:59 I'm a fan. Wow. Okay. So let me ask you, let me tell you something. You don't just come in here and say, I'm a fan of you. We're a fan of you. You're actually actually you actually are a guest that we wanted to get
Starting point is 01:04:07 on the show for years and had scheduling conflicts i know but don't you feel like it almost happened so many times where it would be like i'm available thursday and you guys were like we're only available friday we're in spain that day some difficult starlet okay well you actually you actually are the most famous person here and that's an. And that's an accusation. That's an accusation. And that actually gives you power. And we're on the receiving end of a bad power dynamic. Yeah. I, I don't know that that's true.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I think that Bowen is more famous. That's not true. Fuck you. I mean that genuinely. I think. And I genuinely reject. I reject this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Well, Bowen 80. I guess because I feel like that you've been getting the press. I mean, he was written about by Miss Dow. No. Can we talk about this, you think? I think to some degree. To some degree, we can. I'm excited to see what degree you guys choose.
Starting point is 01:04:59 So January 20-something. Sorry, I'm screaming. It's a Saturday. It's a Saturday. The piece is going to come out. And I had a feeling the whole time. I was like, I'm screaming. It's a Saturday. It's a Saturday. The piece is going to come out. And I had a feeling the whole time. I was like, I'm not going to like this. I'm not going to like this.
Starting point is 01:05:11 So you decided beforehand. Meanwhile, talking. No, no, no, no, no. Here's the thing. Talking to Maureen was great. We had such a nice time together. But I was like, there's going to be something about this no matter what. No matter what is written that's going to upset me.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And then sort of had that sort of and i hadn't been sleeping well and truly like i get the new york times emails like every fucking morning at 6 a.m um and it pops up while i'm like tossing and turning in bed and i'm literally sleep deprived had just come from a damn pre-tape yes um that's as low as you can go it's as low as you can go six in the morning on saturday morning and I'm literally sleep deprived. Had just come from a damn pre-tape. Yes. That's as low as you can go. That's as low as you can go. Six in the morning on Saturday morning. Having just shot a short for SNL. Having just shot a short for SNL. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:53 As low as possible. As hard as you can. It sounds horrible. It's horrible. I just mean it's like true delirium. I'm kidding. It's absolutely. You've been awake for like 48 hours.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh, 100%. Yes. I'm fucking tired as hell. Anyway, so then I read through the whole piece and I was like, this is really fucking weird. Yeah. And then went to work the next day and then just was feeling so out of it.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And then I get the most blessed text in the world from AD Brilliant that says, hey, I don't know if you're blocking the next thing but if you're not just like come swing by my little house for a chat and I was like
Starting point is 01:06:29 wow okay this is what I I knew that this was what I needed yeah so you had to go through security because there's security
Starting point is 01:06:36 yeah they keep us separate actually so I gave him a pass yeah main cast actually is in the castle yes and featured they still have to is in the castle. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And featured. They still have to be in the swamp. Yeah, that's right. We send down our scraps of our old spaghetti for them to eat in the swamp. The scraps of spaghetti. The scraps of spaghetti for the swamp. And then I go into her. And then we just had like truly the most meaningful, best, most like balming conversation I've ever had at that place. Truly. God, Bowen.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Like you like talked me through it in such a perfect way and you like really like found every single little wrinkle contour that I hadn't even thought of yet to be like and actually what you're experiencing is maybe this and I've experienced this version
Starting point is 01:07:24 of it and I was just like, whoa, yes. Crazy. And I don't know. It was just, it meant a lot. And I still think about that. Well, I love you dearly. And I think it is, I mean, it's kind of like just what we were touching on of like, it's as low as you can go.
Starting point is 01:07:37 No, it's fucking not. Like kind of where it's like, you feel incredibly honored to be like written about in the New York Times. You feel like, oh my God, I can't believe I have worked so long and so hard to be at this place. But then at the same time, it's a really bizarre experience to like open up your personhood, your family, your sense of self to be like consumed by the public. Absolutely. And I think if you have like any sense of like grounded feelings,
Starting point is 01:08:09 it's like, you're like, I'm in outer space and there's no handbook. And, and even like a therapist can help you, but they can't know what it's like. And like, it's just a really,
Starting point is 01:08:23 it is kind of one of those things where like I really end up turning to Kate or I really end up turning to like people who are experiencing it with me
Starting point is 01:08:30 at the same time because it's like it's just hard to describe and you don't want to sound ungrateful but it is it's really dizzying and like freaky
Starting point is 01:08:38 I mean to be out of control of your narrative at all has to be a like crazy making experience like especially for people who are used to creating and used to expressing.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Totally. You know what I mean? You're used to it being deliberate. Yes. And also, especially with you, you are very, I actually hadn't thought about it like this
Starting point is 01:08:57 until now, really. You are someone who is so detail-oriented and you're so, you like things the way that you like them. Like you are very, like I think that you like aspects of control. And so to hand it over, like to someone who's writing a piece about you,
Starting point is 01:09:14 that's going to be probably reached by more people than you've been able to reach right now in terms of, hey, here's something about me. Like this person has a lot of power and a lot of control over that narrative yeah and they do that and so i can see reading it and even though i think it was a you know there was nothing about the piece to me that i objected to for you yeah i can see being
Starting point is 01:09:38 in your head and being like well this is me and i am allowed to have an opinion on it and a take on it because it has an opinion and a take on me sure sure sure so anyway that's my little relationship but I will say I'm not surprised that that well it's not that I'm not surprised just that it's like of course she reached out because I feel like you are the kind
Starting point is 01:10:00 of person and I could sense this like even like watching you through the screen when I was just like a fan of yours like when I was watching SNL I was like there's something where we the audience and that's why I'm not surprised that people have connected with Shrill like you do have that quality where it's like when you're like joking on SNL and you're doing these things you really feel like you're doing it with us and there's a connection to that we have to you and so the fact that you are so actually lovely is just like, well, I could have told you that.
Starting point is 01:10:29 I feel like that really comes through on screen. That's so nice. Well, it's true. It's very touching to me. But there was something, remember when 80 got hired and you and I were just watching? Because I was there, I was a part of the process.
Starting point is 01:10:42 You were part of the process. I was part of the decision-making process. But just watching it, because remember it. I was a part of the process. You were a part of the process. I was part of the decision-making process. But just watching it, because remember it just being a thing where you were like, oh, that's that person. It's what you describe when we play star or actress.
Starting point is 01:10:53 A star is someone who pops on the screen and you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop, stop. Let me look at you. Matt brought this up the other day and it's like, the encapsulated thing about Star
Starting point is 01:11:06 is that they show up on screen, and you go, I get it. Yeah. I feel like- And with 80, it was like, day motherfucking one, you're like, yeah, everyone- But correct me if I'm wrong,
Starting point is 01:11:16 you had to work in the beginning to get things done. Yes, yes, yes, of course, of course. I mean, obviously, you're so talented, and that's apparent, but I remember on that first season, you had the best friend sketch of Cecily. Girlfriend talk show.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And then I remember you started to get more opportunities and I really saw you shining. But I think that, for example, with you, Beau, in first episode, they had you doing a weekend feature. And I think with you, it was a little bit different. Oh, big time. And that is why every new cast member has like such a totally different experience because i would say it took me like two years to really be like getting stuff on that i had written and part of it was just like i was like i don't know how to fucking do this i
Starting point is 01:12:00 had never been on camera ever really ever no i was like doing you know second city shows and like improv shows in chicago like had never even done like a commercial or anything and so it was just like i don't know how to do this like it took me a little while and you came from improv more right did you sketch at second city yes second city is sketch it's it's weird i definitely did more improv like that, that was where I started. But it is, like, yeah, I kind of did stuff with The Annoyance, which was, like, writing or improvising to write, like, if that makes sense. And then Second City is, like, sketch.
Starting point is 01:12:36 So, yeah, I mean, I had written sketch, but it was just, like, you know. On that level with that kind of parameters and focus. And that kind of pressure. It's cuckoo. It's cuckoo. It's cuckoo how you relearn everything. Yeah. Cause I mean, I,
Starting point is 01:12:52 I kind of like to say that I, that I kind of like was broken down completely last season as a writer. And I, I want to, I want to retract what I said because it made it sound like it was easier for you immediately at the show. And it's always hard. But I know what you mean where it's like first week.
Starting point is 01:13:10 I feel like the listeners might be like, he just was an asshole. You had the kind of first year that everyone has where it's like you have to figure it out. It wasn't like all of a sudden you arrived and were treated like a prince. The amount of times I've sobbed in Sudi's office. Oh, the sobbing is in Sudi's office. Yeah. Oh, the sobbing is key. Yeah. It's important.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I mean, and I definitely, like, I remember there was a time where, like, I had just started on the show, and, like, my piece, like, crushed at the table. And so I was like, it's definitely going to go. And then it didn't get picked. And I was like, that hurts. And then I went home, and Connor, like, still was was in chicago like shutting down our apartment so i was like home
Starting point is 01:13:48 alone and i like reached to throw something away and i leaned forward and hit my head on like a wall basically in this apartment that i had just gotten because i like wasn't used to it and i remember i slid down the wall and was like, like just totally. You had a Rachel McAdams moment. Yes, a full blown. Rachel McAdams. And it was like, you know, you're fine, honey. You're on a Saturday Night Live.
Starting point is 01:14:16 They're paying you. But it was like, you know, you lose your sense of yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's confusing and, you know, I don't know. It's hard. But the fact that I don't know. It's hard. But the fact that it's Saturday Night Live makes it hard. It's not a comfort. It makes it harder.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Because when you're a first-year person at SNL, I would assume, it's kind of like, and I felt like this with the audition, too. It's like this is your moment to do it. And so if it's not going great, that's what's in your head. It's not, I'm on SNL. Don't worry. It'll be fine not it's not i'm on snl don't worry it'll be fine it's i'm on snl fuck yes and it's funny that you say that because like truly when i got hired i never was like jumping up and down like oh my god i got hired as now like i right away was like oh fuck yeah i'm terrified and like this is gonna be hard and i'm scared yeah and i i never really had like a celebratory moment maybe maybe until like Shrill came out,
Starting point is 01:15:06 because I was just like, I'm like terrified. Well, that's an interesting thing though. No, it's not. Truthful, because I also didn't really have any moment like that either. I was just like, oh, fuck. Like this has to happen. There's an opportunity window that I have to like. Yeah, of both of you guys.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Like, do you think that how you felt about how your audition went played into how you felt when you got cast? Like,
Starting point is 01:15:32 did you leave your test thinking I crushed? I don't know that I thought I crushed, but I definitely, I remember like when I was auditioning, I had gotten,
Starting point is 01:15:42 I kind of had met Jason Sudeikis before and, and he had kind of mess met Jason Sudeikis before and and he had kind of messaged me and been like you should do this political impression because she's gonna host a debate and he had kind of like given me like an insider yeah yeah he had told me like you should get candy down yeah you know that put that in your audition and I remember just like kind of being like maybe I should listen to Jason know, he's giving me this like insider tip. But at the same time, I was like, that's not me. You know, like I'm not like a impression person.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And this is my one chance to audition for SNL. And I really just want to do like my shit so that if they hire me, I am like hired for my shit and not because I was trying to be something that I thought they might like. And that is a big question to ask of yourself. And so I really only did like dumb characters that I thought they might like. That is a big question you have to ask of yourself. And so I really only did like dumb characters. I did almost no impressions. I wrote stuff that I thought was funny that like I liked, you know. And leaving, that was my guiding light.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Like when I got hired was that I was like all I did was stuff that I like to write. That's what they hired me for. Like that I can do. You know what I mean was stuff that I like to write that's what they hired me for like I that I can do you know what I mean instead of feeling like okay I'm the girl who doesn't yeah no yeah like I was just like okay I can hold on to like the stuff that I like to do I don't know it's because I guess it must have been comfortable like they liked that yeah they'll like my work totally like I want to continue to pretend yeah i couldn't i don't know so so i didn't leave being like i crushed but i left at least being like i did my fucking thing and either
Starting point is 01:17:09 they like it or they don't like you know that's me you know how did you feel well i just want to first off say that that like takes so much like conviction of self to like stick to though yeah well i mean like and you were like you were a damn zygo. You were like 29. No, 29. I was going to say like 19 and then 25. But like so young. I don't think I could have done it. That would have been three, four years earlier.
Starting point is 01:17:39 There's no way. I wasn't ready. Literally, I was going to say 21 and then my brain shifted to 19 and i said 29 i'm i had to explain myself yeah okay because you're 89 that's right you're an 89 year old woman you're sick i'm sick and not doing well you're sick but you look young thank you so that's the sickness congratulations on that that's the sickness i felt like i by the end I kind of let the whole
Starting point is 01:18:08 like the whole like mold of like what they wanted to see of me kind of pervade it which felt weird but I think there's like smarts to that too I don't know it can go either way you have to just commit to it I remember the first time
Starting point is 01:18:24 for me it was like I did my own thing and felt great about it. And then the second time, I felt like I played the game too hard and felt like, ugh, about it. But either way, I think that people that go in with a plan and are strategic, they can be successful.
Starting point is 01:18:37 But also people that go in there and say, this is what I do, god damn. Those people are rad. It's just a choice to do that. And I think a lot of times it don't dang work out. Yeah, it don't dang. It don't dang.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I do have to really quickly say that I cribbed from Aidy Bryant syntax up top when I said, yes, I damn do. That's an Aidyism. And she owns it. To put damn before a verb. That's what it is. And she owns it. Wow. To put damn before a verb. Ah!
Starting point is 01:19:07 That's what it is. Oh my God. And I, wait, can I give a, can I give a, a, a, my mother damn bird update? Yes! She was texting me from the beach the other day. She's now in Florida. My parents go down there. They're snowbirds now.
Starting point is 01:19:21 And they have a condo. And she was on the beach with my aunt and my cousin, who recently went through a breakup. So they were at the beach. Christina. Yes. Wow, you are literally sister life. That's a good friend.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Literally sister life. Literally sister life. Hashtag. Yeah, hashtag, actually. Literally sister life hashtag after those words, actually. And my mom famously said, damn bird. The last time she texted me from a beach because a damn bird came over and took the sandwich. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah, we remember this. We know this. So she knows that she's become popular on the podcast for damn bird. And so now people will be in my DMs every time I post a picture of Katrina and they'll say, damn bird. And so now, and people will be in my DMs every time I post a picture of Katrina and they'll say damn bird and they know to stylize it with two M's, which is the way that she spells damn. So she says to me,
Starting point is 01:20:12 she texts me, oh my God. I was like, what? She goes, literally damn bird. A bird pooped on me. She can't go to the damn beach, the woman! Damn bird 2. Damn bird 2. Return of the bird.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Damn bird 2, colon, return of the bird. Damn bird. Damn bird. These damn birds. Actually, it won't stop. Damn bird. I am huge. I stand seagulls. They're fucking wild. You stand seagulls?
Starting point is 01:20:45 Wild. They're wild. Lawless. Because they don't think about anything but themselves. No, when Connor and I worked on a cruise ship, sometimes the seagulls- You did improv on a cruise ship? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Proudly. Proudly. But there used to be these seagulls that would come and basically target children because they knew they were weak and absolutely go hard to get their fries like on the back of this boat. I would say our hearts were so sad for being at sea for four months and doing bad improv
Starting point is 01:21:13 that our only joy became watching the seagulls eat the children's fries. These birds actually... They're strong. It's actually a real culture. These birds are strong. It's actually real culture number 103. These birds actually don't kick. They're strong. They're strong. These birds, it's actually a rule of culture. These birds are strong. It's actually rule of culture number 103. These birds are strong.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I needed a rule of culture. We haven't done that many. I'm sorry. You have to understand that we're just now getting back into the flow of hosting. Of course. And we feel very, how do you like our setup? I love this. Also, like, I hope you think we're doing a good job,
Starting point is 01:21:46 and I hope the listeners like this. I think that everyone is thinking this episode is actually going to win an Oscar. This is an all-time good one. Did you hear they're doing a podcast big major award show? Okay, that should be illegal. It's a golden mic.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I've been saying this maybe for some time, that there should be no Oscars, no Golden Globes, no Emmys. There should be one. There should be illegal. It's a golden mic. And I've been saying this maybe for some time that there should be no Oscars, no Golden Globes, no Emmys. There should be one. There should be one. There should be one and they do TV
Starting point is 01:22:10 and movies at the same time and they take all the money and they give it to the people. It's getting dark. There's too many. The Critics' Choice and the Nickelodeon Awards. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:20 Well, really what we need to get rid of is the Nickelodeon Awards because they're the most toxic. They're the most toxic. It's actually Rules of Culture number 36. get rid of is the Nickelodeon Awards because they're the most toxic. They're the most toxic and bad. It's actually rules of culture number 36. The most toxic are the Nickelodeon Awards. It's getting to be inhumane to make these people buy a new outfit for a new thing every week for about three months.
Starting point is 01:22:39 They're wasting our time. Yes. And I'm not saying us as people who attend. I'm saying people who watch. Yes! This is rude. And it's stupid. First of all, I love some of these people that get awards so much.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I love Laura Dern. You making me watch 15 different Laura Dern award speeches doesn't make me like Laura Dern more. Exactly. It honestly takes this person that I guess you, the industry, are trying to be like, you like her, so pay, like give us your money, like watch her on programs.
Starting point is 01:23:13 It's like, no, by oversaturating these people, you drive us nuts. It's bad. You drive us cuckoo crazy. And this might be like a weird afterthought, but like to make a damn, to make a damn team of caterers work an after party,
Starting point is 01:23:29 five different after parties in Los Angeles alone every week from like December to March. It's like, excuse me. It's just so, it's such a strain on it just for this like weird little industry that doesn't really matter in the end. And also I'm sorry. And I, and I will really matter in the end. And also, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And I will take this to the streets. Come on. They've got to stop sending us screeners. They have to send links. It has to be links. It actually needs to happen. I don't know what the rules are, but they have to do this. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Okay, the pale of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel stuff. They need to fucking check themselves. Honestly. That might be my, I don't think so. Come on. How fucking dare they send me a suitcase of DVDs
Starting point is 01:24:10 in order to get me to vote for them. And I will say this to Maisel's face. I'll say this to anyone. This is insane what they're doing. Well, literally,
Starting point is 01:24:19 literally like. Our planet is dying. So for everyone that doesn't know, everyone listening who doesn't get WGA screeners, like the WGA like does the awards.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And so Amazon, being Amazon, sent a, I guess it was like a little makeup box. But like a 15 pound box of discs. Yeah. And it had a little extra stuff like a postcard from wherever Maisel had been and then little coasters which were cheap and then you could actually use it as like a makeup box or like a little lunch box i guess but it had to be every single one had to be what 30 bucks yeah
Starting point is 01:24:56 assembled by like a child and shit and like and of course fucking amazon is yeah and it's like there's no hubris and they also sent out a huge Modern Love box. No. Did you get that one? No, I don't know what that is. It was like literally like a pirate's chest arrived at the Greta Teitelman house. And I was like, I don't know what to do with this. Because I'm not watching Modern Love.
Starting point is 01:25:19 It's so much waste. It's so much waste. It's so bad. I mean, because Connor and I are both in multiple unions. Oh, I can't imagine. We're doing double time. And we've now, I guess there's a way to opt out. And I think we've possibly figured it out.
Starting point is 01:25:32 But it's like the fact that these are fucking going to people's like weird business manager's offices and then just going right into the trash. Yeah, it's bad. It makes me fucking crazy. This industry is garbage. It's actually most of the Texas sized plastic island is Maisel Lunchboxes. Absolute. How fucking dare you send me a suitcase? But you know what this is?
Starting point is 01:25:53 It's for the elderly people who are in the unions. Oh my God. Because they want to stick to DVD players and they don't know how to stream shit. That is literally nuts. I don't know how to stream shit. That is literally nuts. I don't know. That's like Whoopi Goldberg on The View yelling at AOC because she doesn't respect her elders. It's like, that's because we all need to have a conversation, sweetie.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Did that happen? Yes! I don't know. We all are. But you know, when Aidy was on The View, I texted her. I was like, yeah, tell me everything. It was, it was, also, I think I told you this, that they were like, you have to come back and guest host.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And I was like, I will never do that. I absolutely would. There's nothing that makes me more panicked than hearing them all do their political takes and then them turning to me. And me being like, ah! I think I would do that. It's also... And Meghan McCain would be like
Starting point is 01:26:47 same it's good cause I'm gay you have to do it I think that one day in my life I will be on the view you will yes you will
Starting point is 01:26:56 even if I have to be in a damn chicken costume sometimes they do do that yeah they do be doing it's called chicken of the week is that real? The chicken comes out and does a dance. Is this real? With joy.
Starting point is 01:27:08 No. Anything is possible, honestly. I would believe anything you said about The View or the Kelly Clarkson Show, because I just assumed that you know. Kelly Clarkson Show is seconds away from having a Chicken of the Week. Like, we found this chicken actually in Arizona,
Starting point is 01:27:21 and this is an amazing chicken, and they tweeted us, so here's the video. It'll be just a video of a chicken and she'd be like, I'm crying. That was so funny. Oh my god, I'm actually crying. And when we come back, it's gonna be Reba. And after the break, Reba would come out. And she would say, I love
Starting point is 01:27:37 that chicken. That was funny. She'd go, I thought it was funny too. I could literally do a whole 60 minute Kelly Clarkson show. Maybe I should do that as a live show. Come out kelly and just have guests reba rocks reba rock actually it's rule of culture number 49 reba rocks thank you for joining we always encourage always encourage guests to join we love when guests join actually yes i think doug's giving me a look no we well doug can keep looking this is crazy you actually can keep looking This is crazy You actually can keep looking
Starting point is 01:28:06 I don't want this to end Hans I don't like the look I don't like the look We have to This is getting crazy It's getting crazy No well
Starting point is 01:28:13 So this actually It's actually okay It's okay everyone We're actually We're gonna do I don't think so honey now Now you tell them What I don't think so honey is
Starting point is 01:28:22 Okay every week We take one moment To rail against One moment We take one moment to rail against something in culture. We take one moment. No, she's not a fan. She thinks it's only a moment long. Fuck this.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Oh my God, I'm actually mad and crying. Oh my God. We take one moment to rail against something in culture that is pissing us off. Yes, queen. Absolute queen. Absolute queen. One moment. One moment. Okay. All right, so listen. Should I go first Absolute queen. Absolute queen. One moment. One moment.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Okay. All right, so listen. Should I go first? I think you should go first. I have a couple things, but I think I'm gonna do one of the things. You're gonna do one of the things?
Starting point is 01:28:55 Something that made sense to say. Okay, I'm ready. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. Churros. Sorry, girl. Churros. Sorry, girl.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Churros. Guess what? You smell better than you taste, motherfucker. How come churros, when I taste you, I'm always mad? Because when I smelled it, it has that overwhelming Auntie Anne smell where you can't walk past it and not buy it
Starting point is 01:29:22 and then I eat it and I'm a disappointed toot. I don't think so,. Also when you're hard you're too hard. When you're soft you're actually too soft. There's never been a time in the written word or the actual history where churro has been the right consistency and if there has been a time
Starting point is 01:29:40 no one's writing about it honey and you don't see it on the news because you are what? Not actually good. Churros, today I watched Sudi Green by one of you at Universal Studios Hollywood and you were $5.95. And you might as well be damn paper. I don't think so, honey, the price of you.
Starting point is 01:29:58 And the price of a churro I'm willing to pay? Zero dollars, honey, because I don't think so. And that's one of your best? Oh my God. I just disagree. Sorry. I'm actually fine. I only go to Disneyland
Starting point is 01:30:12 to eat churros. Well, you haven't had a turkey like then, sweetie. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Actually, if you want to
Starting point is 01:30:21 really throw down, we actually could about best snacks at Disney. No, I mean, I don't want to do that. She doesn't. Don't. I don you want to really throw down we actually could about best snacks at disney no i i mean i don't want to do that she doesn't don't i don't want to engage with you on on disney or any theme park kind of stuff you're not you're not trying to to like spar i do want to spar she wants to spar you know here's the thing. Have you been to Disney World? World? No.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Land. I'm Land. She's a Land girl. Because I'm Arizona. I'm Land. You can make the drive. Yeah. Well, there's lots of great stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Anyway, think about it. Now, I got to say, Matt is kind of moving away from the World camp. He's not as big of a fan of World as he used to be well Bowen and I recently went to Disneyland and it's just it's so much easier because you don't have to take a damn plane to get from Epcot to Magic Kingdom I know it's crazy
Starting point is 01:31:12 I also think there's some of the like 60s charm that's still there antiqueness that isn't quite I don't know I've never been to the land but that's what I like about Disneyland
Starting point is 01:31:21 is the 60s charm yeah it's the it's the wow this is so small but that's what I like about Disneyland. It's the 60s charm. Yeah, it's the, wow, this is so small and quaintness of the castle. It's like this massive thing where you're like,
Starting point is 01:31:34 okay, capitalism. When I go to Disney World, oh, yeah. The way you just slid that in. Contemptive. California Adventure can eat shit. And you kind of missed the mic and you were scared to commit to it. No, she committed to it.
Starting point is 01:31:49 No, I was sort of sitting up straighter. Because you're actually trying to spar is the thing. You actually came to spar tonight. She's sparring. And I actually really enjoy California Adventure. And you know who else enjoyed it? Bowen. I enjoyed it very much.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And Credit Coaster. Loved. Popped off. All right, so actually this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. And the thing about his time is it starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, Magician!
Starting point is 01:32:10 Don't you ever pull shit from behind my ear without asking me for permission. I'm not gonna equate it to like a thing that requires consent,
Starting point is 01:32:22 but this is a thing where everyone comes up to you. These magicians come up to you, have no regard for your boundaries, darling. And they start to like, wave their little hands and fingers next to your hip or something, and then knives come out.
Starting point is 01:32:38 It's so stupid. And the TikTok magicians are the worst. And the TikTok magicians who will take a glass of water and cut into it, and it's revealed to be a cake. I cannot. 15 seconds. It's crazy, and it feels like a form of gaslighting because it's like, no, you're distorting my sense of reality here
Starting point is 01:33:02 by really fucking up my brain. And this is what you do. You barter in deceit. That's one minute. You peddle in deceit. It's actually rule of culture number 96. Magicians barter in deceit. And they knowingly do it.
Starting point is 01:33:21 They knowingly do it. That's what's really fucked up. For cash. For cash. They do it do it. They knowingly do it. That's what's really fucked up. For cash. For cash. They do it for money. Magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money. And it's actually real culture number 102. Magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Cash. And it's important. Cash money. They actually can't, you know, it's they're fucked up because they take cash. They take cash. So they don't get taxed. They're an incredibly disgusting people. Magicians.
Starting point is 01:33:52 And you know who their king is? Is that Neil Patrick Harris. Really? Dope, bitch. He's the king of magic. He loves magic. Oh, God. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:03 One of the celebrities we've dragged the hardest on this podcast is Neil Patrick Harris. Well, I don't know. Is that true? Yeah, we dragged him. I don't think we have. We dragged him because he one time tweeted during the Tony Awards at Rachel Bloom, who is this girl they have hosting backstage? She's not fun.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Like something like that. And they were like, that is the Golden Globe winner, Rachel Bloom. Yeah, that's nasty. Don't do that. You can't do that. And they were like, that is the Golden Globe with Rachel Bloom. Yeah, that's nasty. Don't do that. It was nice. You can't do that. And here's the thing. One person who I don't think is a magician, and so we do trust her, is 80.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Oh, no. Oh, wait. And it's time. Let me think here for a moment. Okay. Because I feel like I have zones, and I'm scared. Take a damn time. Okay, I'm just going to see what happens.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Just know this is not premeditated. Let it flow, honey. Okay. I'm just gonna talk loudly and we'll see what happens. Yeah, that's what it is. That's all it is. Sometimes I find myself on stage
Starting point is 01:34:53 in front of a crowd and I'm like, oh, this is happening. And it's an I Don't Think So Honey and often they're cuckoo. All right, so this is Aidy Bryant's I Don't Think So Honey on this episode of Lascaux Dress. This is called Beep.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Fill in later. And our time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey diarrhea. You've got your hands around my throat and you're killing me. I need you to stop. I cannot figure out what is causing you. Is it cheese? Is it like pepper?
Starting point is 01:35:24 I'm so scared and I don't know what to do. And I've been to the doctors and they cannot help. And it's not all the time. But when you come, you come in hot and mad. And I'm so tired. What I wouldn't give to have a nice, solid, cock-like shit. But instead what I get is a bag of loose sand covered in eels and slime. Why, why, God, have you done this to me?
Starting point is 01:35:50 I am scared. I am scared. You are a bad element of my life, and I need you to get out, out, out, out, damn spot. I am absolutely tired. Five. And I'm so, I guess, I don't think so on diarrhea. Wow, and that's one minute. What I wouldn't give for a cock like shit.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Let's just break down what happened there. Well, I have a lot of questions. First of all, we had a Shakespeare reference. And then we had. And Meteor Res. Is it cheese? Is it Res. Is it cheese? Is it pepper? Is it cheese?
Starting point is 01:36:27 Is it pepper? That's always what it could come down to. Is it cheese? Most commonly, cheese or pepper. Right. I thought that was a masterful... I have to ask you a question because there was... I want to be clear.
Starting point is 01:36:40 I'm not having diarrhea every day. Well, you want to be solid. And I am most of the time. But when it comes, it comes like a fucking gun to the head. Yes. Can I ask you a question? I need to ask you a question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:53 I was experiencing poop like this, that one we call diarrhea. Yeah. And I'll tell you why it was. I had been over-diagnosed with antibiotics earlier in the year. Have you been on antibiotics recently? I've been on not a pill. Yeah. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:37:09 And I do think it's probably just like dairy. Yeah. But sorry, bitch. I'm not about to stop. Yeah. It's actually one of the hardest things to give up is cheese. Honey, is it stress? Because for me, sometimes it just comes down to stress.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Sometimes it is stress. I do recall that as I was auditioning for SNL, it was actually liquid hell. Oh, no. And then you have to be thinking about that. Yeah, and then I was like, also, I was like, I can only eat nuts and bananas because anything is going to trigger this b-hole.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Oh, shit. But then, I don't know, it goes away. But then it just comes back before you've even settled into the normal solid shit. I can't draw the boundaries between, on the dates anymore for when I poop solid or when I poop liquid. Wow, that's too much.
Starting point is 01:37:50 It's too much. I gotta see someone too. The doctors can't help me. Well, this is the thing, is that it's not, it's, I don't want people to feel scared for me and the last thing I want is fucking strangers messaging me
Starting point is 01:38:00 being like, I can actually cure you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Well, that's, I'm fine. Unfortunately, it's more just like, while explicitly not asking for that. Yeah, I can actually cure you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Well, that's fine. Unfortunately, while explicitly not asking for that. Yeah, I have. Unfortunately, you've opened the floodgates.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I would also say that's maybe the worst part of sometimes having to get your hair and makeup done is they often are like, you know, you have rosacea and that means you have a liver disease and you need to get a shot every day in your eye. And I can actually help you if you'll follow me on Instagram and tag me. And I'm always like, holy hell.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Have you heard of the rock diet? Oh. Well, I eat rocks. It rocks. If you get a shot every day in your eye. You actually have to get a shot every day in your eye that only I can administer. And it's a really big eye-sized needle.
Starting point is 01:38:42 It looks like a hammer, but it's a needle, and I have to come over and use it on you. That's what it takes to be in the industry. That's what it takes to be in the industry. Here's the thing. If anyone ever told me they would, they were a producer, I would let them spit on me.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Oh my God. I laughed so hard my headphones fell off. All you have to do is tell me that you're a producer, and I won't ask if it's film, television, music. I'll be like, do you want to come spit on me back in my apartment? Yeah, honestly, you could come and post spit. You could be putting your clothes back on, because I assume you want to get naked before you spit on me.
Starting point is 01:39:17 You could tell me after, by the way, will I produce shit, and then get out, and I'd be like, hot, honestly. Is this a bad episode? I'm scared. Are you kidding? Why would you say that to me? I guess because I just love the show and so when I listen I'm like so happy and of course inserting myself into it is bad
Starting point is 01:39:36 no that fucking sucks and that's wrong. It actually sucks and you actually insulted us you insulted us and yourself how dare you ask if this was bad? No, it was good. Please tag me if you think it was good. It would mean a lot to me. I need validation.
Starting point is 01:39:50 She needs validation. Can I say something, though? Answer? Yes. Okay, then I'll say something. I feel like my energy towards you coming on the podcast was like, well, this will be one of like, like I would assume that you, by the time this podcast wraps in like let's say 2040 we'll have like a one of those
Starting point is 01:40:11 letterman's jacket they give to drew barrymore and everyone else that's hosted five times see now i think of myself potentially as like your amy sidaris david letterman situation like right where i like come by and i'm like i'm not promoting anything right now. Season two has long since been out, but I'm here to have fun with my guys. Yeah, absolutely. And that's how I feel. I was thinking about you as an Amy Sedaris. It's Amy on Letterman,
Starting point is 01:40:32 and sorry to bring work into this. I feel like- You on Seth. No, it's you on Seth, and it's, just hear me out. Okay, bitch. It's Tom Hanks on SNL. Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:43 It's like someone that you're just like, yes, yes, it'll be good. Just come, just. Okay, bitch. It's Tom Hanks on SNL. Wow. It's like someone that you're just like, yes, yes, it'll be good. Just come, just come, just come. I guess what we're saying is that you can come back any damn time. Any damn time. Well, you really have been rushing me off, especially Doug out there.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Well, Doug actually, the thing is, he thought he was the only one with a weapon, and I have a very large weapon. We're maxing out the clock at 99 minutes. This is insane. Yeah, but it's not like this isn't a normal... I know, I know, I know. But I've been getting multiple texts from Connor
Starting point is 01:41:13 being like, where are you? We're supposed to go to dinner. We're supposed to go to dinner? Yeah. Okay, we gotta get her out. Tell Connor that relationships are not everything. I do, every day. Okay, this was an episode with Aidy Bryant.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Please watch Shrill. Watch SNL. Please. It sounded like you were day. Okay. This is, this was an episode with 80 Bryant. Please watch shrill. Watch SNL. Please. Please. It sounded like you were begging. No, please. God.
Starting point is 01:41:32 No, watch shrill because it's a great fucking show and it's made with love and I'm on it. Like what? What do you want? What do you want? Oh, Vanessa bears is on it. Also watch shrill because,
Starting point is 01:41:43 and this is gross and whatever, but my Wikipedia says that I was on Shrill and I'm like, nope, you're thinking a joke and booster, bitch. Take it off. Oh, wow. It's still up there. Let's make a documentary.
Starting point is 01:41:56 This is unreal. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. What you don't know is that this is the beginning of a documentary. It is. It's called Miss Americanos. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Did you guys talk about yes we did we did she has to go to dinner she has dinner at asteria labuca asteria labuca asteria labuca now you know where i'm going now yeah good all right so here's actually one other thing about the podcast is we it always ends with a song Oh, one day, one night, Saturdays, all right, online, just fine, nighttime, anytime, get your degree, set your eyes up free, National American University. That was like a remix. Mashup. Yeah. Bye.
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