Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "LiterallySisterLife#" (w/ Aidy Bryant) (RE-RELEASE)
Episode Date: September 22, 2021This is a re-release of a CLASSIC Las Culturistas episode:Matt and Bowen are joined by Queen Angel, Ms. Aidy Bryant! It’s a rollicking ride of an episode that starts off with a nutso Bill Clinton im...pression and bobs and weaves from there into uncharted territory. Topics include local commercial jingles, awards show screeners, starting out at SNL, and Matt’s two-day shoot as a “hard recurring” character on Aidy’s wonderful show “Shrill” on Hulu. Also a three-for-three batch of primo I Don’t Think So Honey’s await! Remember to subscribe to Las Culturistas right here on iHeart Radio! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, man.
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
And we have to talk about something.
You have something to spring up on me.
I almost crashed my car when I was coming here because I realized something happened,
or rather did not happen, during our culture catch-up episode bitch we did not
mention cats we we didn't talk about it damn see it and for that was the piece of culture where
everyone was attacking us attacking us online and saying how dare you not be recording episodes when Cats is happening? I literally was like, how did we miss it?
It was monumental.
Well, I feel like it wasn't even bad enough
for us to talk about it in some ironic way, though.
And I had to preserve my whole relationship with Cats
that I've maintained for my whole life,
which is that I've never seen it,
will never see it.
Have you not seen the movie?
No.
That is so stupid. I know everything about it, but I will never see it. Any incarnation seen it. We'll never see it. Have you not seen the movie? No. That is so stupid.
I know everything about it, but I will never see it.
Any incarnation.
You know everything about it?
A lot.
Can you sing a little bit of Beautiful Ghosts for us, please?
Well, that's not real.
That's not canon.
That's Taylor.
That's Taylor and Andrew Lloyd Webber.
And Miss Webber.
And Miss Webber.
Taylor Webber.
Taylor Webber.
Okay, what do you want to talk about with cats?
I just, Bowen, you're being like, what?
You're being like rude.
Oh my God.
You're actually being really rude.
Okay, what do you want to talk about?
Because literally it's rude
that we talk about cats all the time
and then I say, oh my God, can you believe this?
And you say, I didn't even care.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to shoot your enthusiasm down.
I accept your apology.
Okay, so let's talk about it
you went to see it's very stoned
Judi Dench had her human hands
but none of the other cats did
I think the other cats had their hands
well I'll say Judi Dench had her hands
it was like
it was like they said on set before they got
that shot and definitely
show your hands cause they're gonna be animated
cause she's like this holding her hands basically in front of her face before they got that shot. And definitely show your hands because they're going to be animated.
Because she's like this the whole time.
Holding her hands basically in front of her face.
Just like singing.
They went up to Judy.
They were like, Judy, can we put the motion,
the mocap balls on your hands?
And she was like, absolutely not.
Yeah.
And in fact, I will be placing them at my,
at my decolletage level just to show everyone that I would have no part of the digital for technology.
It would have been fine.
I feel if she had not had her wedding ring on.
Cause then once you see the,
yes.
Cause then once you see the wedding ring,
you're like,
okay,
so where's the cat's husband?
Like what happened?
How long have they been together?
Cause the cat then has a history that we want to know about because she is the most exciting character judy den judy den we all remember her name old deuteronomy actually
no it is she played old dude oh yeah she's old dude the first woman old dude the first
and there had never been another woman old dudes i think it's crazy that the academy shortlisted
cats for special effects or whatever
that category is even though it was an unfinished
special effects movie
I know yes
that's true what do we think of
oh we talked about best original song
in the culture catch up episode
Beautiful Ghost do you feel like it was snubbed
I would say that it's hard because
Beautiful Ghost is not a good song
but nothing that was performed at the Oscars was.
So then you get to the thing of like,
well, you want to at least see Taylor on stage
doing Beautiful Ghost.
That was Taylor's bid to be on the Dolby Theater stage.
But she'll have more bids, many more bids.
She will, she will.
What do you think is next for her in terms of film,
in terms of musicals?
In terms of film, what do I think is next for Taylor Swift?
Well, The Giver 2. The Giver 2, they'll do a chicago reboot yeah spring i'm sure she's gonna play
hillary um in the film about hillary's life yes it's gonna actually be about the it's gonna be
about it's gonna be called hill and bill and that's actually a romantic comedy about um a young
serious student named hillary rodham who was one they swept actually right
off her feet when she met an amazing
next president
whose name was Bill Clinton
and what school did they meet at and they met
at Arkansas State
that's where they because that's where Bill and Hillary
both went and you know the film
takes a little bit of liberties like she's platinum
blonde in the film
and he's got like very big
muscles because taylor actually plays hillary and scott eastwood plays bill and scott eastwood
plays bill because they said let's get the most talented actor let's get let's reunite they said
let's dream yeah right um and they said we have to get the best actors for hill and bill we gotta
make it and you know you know the classic scene from the trailer. Yeah. Oh, yes.
Let's quote it.
Yeah.
I feel like this conversation is just starting.
And I feel like you get those jowls up, girl.
My what?
You're pretty behind those jowls.
Let me grab those boobs.
My jowls?
Yes.
And see.
Wow.
He wasn't kind to her from the beginning, we find out in the film.
And you know what?
She should have left him.
It's a rom-com.
People make jokes about how it's playful ribbing about how the other person's ugly.
That's what rom-coms are.
I can't believe they picked that scene for the trailer.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's, like I said, the most famous scene from the's like I said the most famous scene
from the trailer
it is the most famous scene
from the trailer
now readers
people who can photoshop
the poster
please do it
Hill and Bill
because there's also
a scene later of her
at the DNC
and she says
women
and the glass ceiling
breaks
our guest
has her balm
on her
on her mouth.
Here's the deal with our guest.
And there is a deal.
Oh, there's every deal.
We were just saying off the air that there has been years of scheduling mishaps.
This actually is in the industry of Hollywood.
It's something that people talk about.
Yes.
How they haven't been able to get the scheduling together for this today.
I think they call it development hell.
Yeah.
This,
this episode has been in development hell,
but so happy.
And I can clap both my hands together like this.
So happy that we could finally develop.
Yes.
What should have been developed many years ago.
Absolutely.
Unfortunately it was then in hell,
but I actually think that this is coming right on time.
Oh yeah.
Because it's,
you know,
because it's always Christmas because it's Christmas. No, it's literally. Oh, yeah, because it's... Because it's always right on time.
Because it's Christmas.
No, it's literally...
When is this coming out?
March.
It's mid-March.
It's mid-March, but...
I'm 30 on this episode.
Oh, my God.
That's cool.
I'm not 30 now recording,
but I will be 30 when this comes out.
When this comes out, you'll be 30.
Everyone wish Matt a happy 30th.
Thanks.
Thanks.
But our guest.
Our guest.
I love our guest with a purity and a passion.
Truly.
You would diagnose yourself as loving her with a purity.
With a purity?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
I could cry.
I could cry.
But you won't.
But I won't.
And this is, I'm looking at you.
I'm looking at you.'re not gonna cry you're
not gonna cry she she truly is the best um emmy nominated honey never forget never forget and
it's about the prizes and it's about the prizes that's what she actually said that um when i first
met her i was like hey and she was like it look unless you can help me get ahead it's um i'm in
this for an emmy it's about oh oh my god okay of course I was like
I'm Matt by the way and she was like
this is
and she said whatever you say to me right now doesn't matter
oh my god that sounds like her
yeah that sounds just like her
no just kidding she was really nice on me Matt
she's an angel of angels
she is
starring in season 2 of Shrill
please watch it on Hulu
and one of the other shows Please watch it on Hulu.
And one of the other shows that she's on is Saturday Night Live,
which is a variety sketch program
that's broadcast live from New York.
Yes.
Almost every Saturday night.
Almost?
Some breaks.
21 weeks out of the year?
Yeah.
It's going on for upwards of 30 seasons.
Yes.
It's over 30, the number.
Over 30.
Of seasons that it is.
I can't wait for this.
I'm so, so excited.
Exploding. I'm exploding.
I love her so much.
Everyone, welcome into your ears.
Aidy Bryant!
Oh my god.
You know, I'm such
a listener to the pod.
No, don't listen. Don't stop.
That to be here and actually sit through the intro,
which I have like listened to so many others sit through before,
was just how I imagined it would be.
Was it?
Was it chaotic and terrifying?
Chaotic.
You know, it's always a little ride.
I loved it.
And we do land.
We do land.
We land.
We stick it in the warmth of a guest.
I also like, you guys like do a good job of we stick it in the warmth of a guest I also like
you guys like
do a good job of straddling
like the credits
but also kind of like
the human element
yeah yeah
well it's like
what we want to get across
is our guest is talented
sure
but our guest is a human being too
yeah
you know what I mean
and that's
it's really important to get across
because a lot of these people
they think stars
they put them on a pedestal they put them on a pedestal.
They put them on a pedestal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
It's one of the,
because you see them all dressed up and you see them all dolled up on TV and
you think,
I bet that person is really has it all.
And I did full hair and makeup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank God.
Thank you for that.
You're contoured.
Cause she knows podcasts are a visual medium.
Yeah,
of course.
Now,
80,
did I say something in the Hill and Bill trailer that made you specifically put your hand over your mouth?
I think it was the jowls.
I was like, holy shit.
It's Bill!
But I think also that it was like, you guys were like, it's a rom-com.
But then he starts with the jowls and i assume it ends with him like fucking a 13
year old jeffy epstein like that's what it is yeah i think that honestly i didn't know this but this
rom-com is a lot darker than we thought it's about how in every interaction they've had he insults
her he insults her and but then jeffrey epstein played by me matthewed by Aidy Bryant. Well, I'm sorry, I messed up.
Matthew McConaughey auditioned and was cast.
And then Aidy just called and said she wanted to do it
and they cast her.
And they cast her, absolutely.
And they were like, she'd be a better Epstein.
I was also shocked by like,
oh, and you have a good Clinton.
But like, that was a rock hard Clinton.
No, that was a rock hard erect Clinton.
No, don't even.
Actually, run runner for title of ep is going to be rock hard Clinton.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
It actually, and it's actually not up to me.
It's actually our producer, Anna.
She said she just piped into my ear.
Oh, piped in.
Yeah, I get that.
I get that.
I actually have a permanent chip put in my ear where I can have producers at any time talk to me i love it i love it i love it now ad what is your vibe in la
because i this is i'm seeing you in a different setting and i really i'm picking up on a different
energy oh yeah thank you so much i've been waiting for this question from anyone for a week. What's your LA vibe? I think my LA vibe is like pretty high.
I'm doing like a lot of like, oh, I got to get to this dispensary and that dispensary.
But I'm also like very, I'm like cash.
I think I'm pretty cash in a way that like in New York you're gonna see me in a boot.
Not that I'm formal but
it's a boot city.
And I feel like here I'm like I'm in my
vans hanging ten.
You can wear flat shoes out here and no one
yells. Yeah. No one's like
that woman needs to be in a heel
or a boot. Sure but
then the bag culture not only is
crazy because if you're walking down the street,
I've said this before,
with a tote bag, God forbid,
then you get the craziest looks.
And people can actually smell the foreignness on you.
I see.
And there's no backpack people in Los Angeles.
No.
Yeah.
And I do definitely feel that people are clocking,
like, you don't belong here, you fucking bitch.
Yes.
To you?
Yeah.
Why? Do you think it's because they think belong here you fucking bitch like to you yeah why do you think it's because you're
they think you're a fucking bitch or because they they have seen you associated with new york so
many times like i think it's i'm famously in new york yeah no no no i do think it is just um
it's like we wear too much black yeah and like we're a little too dressed up yeah i don't know
i feel like i go to like a friend's birthday and I'm like, I look like I'm in a goddamn ball gown and I'm humiliated.
Listen, it is.
You do have to adjust to the thing in L.A. of like my friends will get ready for like a lunch.
And it is a capital A, capital L lunch.
I mean, we're going to a place, but we're wearing like like truly like socks and a sandal and like a big shirt.
And no, we didn't do a shower.
So our hair is weird.
You know what I mean?
And you can go out like that in Los Angeles.
It is a thing.
I think people find that charming in Los Angeles.
Yes.
That's true.
Whereas in New York, I, yeah.
I love that this is exactly where we started with the podcast.
It's like, how is LA and New York different?
Well, he asked you the question.
I asked you, what's your LA vibe?
Why are you laughing?
That's an earnest question.
Oh my God.
It's good.
It's good.
We love LA.
And actually, I think to myself every damn day
how happy I am that I live six minutes away
from the Universal Studios Hollywood.
I pass it on the way to work and I see Hogwarts.
That's perfect for you.
There's no Hogwarts in New York.
That's true.
No.
No.
Were you about to say something?
Was I?
I don't know.
I was just having a nice time
talking about how I have two friends
who have been hosts
and winners
at major awards.
Wow.
Because it's about the prizes.
Did you write an Emmy speech when you were nominated?
No, I didn't.
Amy Puller gets mad when people don't do that.
She says it in her book.
Really?
She says, I always feel like it's crazy when people don't write a speech.
I remember that was the only part of Yes, Please!
I get why.
I was just like, no way am I going to win.
But you could have been the and-out that night.
Wow.
But I wasn't. To be the and-out. I going to win. But you could have been the endowed that night. Wow. But I wasn't.
I don't know.
I mean, God bless the Emmys.
It means everything to everyone
everywhere.
And I know that this show
is often about talking about who was nominated
and whatever.
I do find it to be absolutely
toxic. It's a horror.
It's a horror.
A hellish thing.
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't know.
I was just talking about this with someone the other day.
We're like, sometimes if you look back at like past winners, you're like, oh, this is not darkly meaningless.
Yes.
I don't know.
Darkly meaningless.
I'm like, literally, sometimes I will hear,
like when you did Andy Cohen,
and he asked what you thought about something someone did,
you said three words which were like so,
just your grasp of vocabulary.
Sometimes I actually blown away.
The economy of words.
You have a way with words.
You just said, I want this on paper.
I do find it to be an absolutely,
and then I honestly stopped because I needed to,
but what did you just,
you just,
the way you just described,
horror filled,
hellish,
toxic and hellish.
That's what you said.
I do find it to be an absolutely toxic and hellish thing.
Imagine that pull quote.
Glamour.
Darkly,
darkly meaningless.
Aidy Bryant on the Emmy Awards.
Wow.
I do find it to be
don't do this
do not do this to me Matt
do not
don't
Hulu and NBC
will have my head
it means everything
to me
she said that
she said that
in the same pull quote
it's amazing
this woman is all over the world
I am nothing
without the industry
I need it
if they value me I'm better as a person.
Oh, God.
They make me sick.
The industry?
Yes.
That's what I...
The industry.
They make me sick.
I do think it's absolutely dangerous to...
Yes!
Well, first, I'll say this.
Fame is a disease.
Yeah, for sure.
That is killing anyone who experiences
it okay yeah people who don't even experience it it's killing that's right and i've maybe never
identified more with anyone than britney spears in the moment when she like shaved her head yes
like i often through the smallest things i'm like that's it. Get the clippers. Bye, fuckers.
I'm going to the woods.
I can't do this anymore.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
No, don't.
But at the same time, it's like you can't.
Disengage.
Yes.
It's like if I, I don't know, if I engaged too deeply with like the women of the year
or the glamour or any website,
or any- Girlboss Award goes to-
It's like,
it's a dark thing to chase,
I think.
It's Waham.
It's Waham.
I was thinking about Waham the whole time.
It's a lot of Waham.
Yeah.
I'm a little biased.
It's my favorite episode
of season two of Shrill.
Written by one and only Soupy Green.
The Soupy Soupy herself.
Starring Matt Rogers.
Starring, of course.
Come on.
I was the lead.
Lead?
Lead Matt Rogers?
Wait, I realized something before.
And Matt has a huge onset energy,
I gotta say.
Yes, tell me about this day
because I only heard bits and pieces of it.
Well, it was two days.
Oh!
They called me a hard recurring.
Actually, when you look at
when you look at the credits
it says also starring guest star
mine said hard recurring
hard recur Matt Rogers
that refers to your
rock hard
rock hard Clinton
I am going to start calling my penis my Clinton
that's actually up to you how you feel
it's none of my business how you feel.
This is a crazy episode.
But I just want to say, I did come in a little hot because, like I said,
Sudi and I were at Universal Studios Hollywood,
and we did talk about the darkness of fame on the way in.
Wow.
Yes, we were talking about Lindsay Lohan and saying,
you want to know what?
It's because she wasn't surrounded by good people.
So that was what we said as we were scanning our tickets to go on the Transformers ride.
I said this to you yesterday.
I was like, my theory is that Lindsay was not surrounded by good gays.
She had bad gays.
You said this.
And then today we were talking about how.
So, OK, quickly this.
And then I want to say the thing I found out on the set of Shrill.
Oh, my God.
He's got so much much paper and pen work.
You guys don't even know.
This is our first time with notepads.
I've literally never once used a notepad.
I'm actively using it this episode.
I know.
And every time I'm like, okay, something big's going on.
Something big's coming.
So, Sudi and I were saying that when you're in any way involved in entertainment,
and the famousness
aspect of it becomes a thing like you really have to ask yourself why you're doing it yeah and i
think like people who don't know why end up getting taken advantage of by the media because
they like want to do more and more and they'll just play ball and they'll keep playing ball and
they'll keep going it's like we see it happening now it's like people just can't stop getting
attention and that's how they get themselves into holes sometimes and they get keep going. It's like, we see it happening now. It's like people just can't stop getting attention and that's how they get themselves
into holes sometimes
and they get fucked up.
But there's people who I think
tell the industry,
this is why I think people like Pink
and Kelly Clarkson and music
are like,
have longevity
because they say,
just so you guys know,
I don't need this.
And they have that energy.
Yeah.
Meanwhile,
someone like Lindsay Lohan,
like I don't think ever knew why
she wanted to be famous she never examined that in herself right exactly yeah and and she never
found out like why it was that she was doing it wasn't her parents was it something with her was
it something that she needed to expression exactly was it about the art ever and i think that because
you're too young and don't know enough to like figure that out or
activate that in your life or do something about it you get fucked up by the industry because
they'll keep taking from you absolutely and and i just feel like people that you know maybe they
haven't been super famous so they've had the time to ruminate on it or like they just always they
got famous later like people like i'll say it again, like because we saw Kelly's pillboards everywhere
at Universal Studios Hollywood.
And I was like, she's huge now.
And I was like, I think it's because she always was like,
I can take or leave it.
So that's just something I was talking about
with Sudi today on the topic of darkness of fame,
which pertains to this episode.
Which pertains to this.
That's what this episode is about.
It actually pertains to it.
Pertains.
Tell me about these two days of shooting.
Yeah, Matt, I would love to hear your take
because, you know, I'm absolutely everywhere.
Aidy was actually editing a script
while she was shooting that episode.
It is no joke.
She is truly crazy how hard she works.
That's sweet.
The best there is. Okay. And Sudi always says all the time, it's like she's inspired by truly crazy how hard she works. That's sweet. The best there is.
Okay.
And Sudi always says all the time,
it's like she's inspired by you and how hard you work.
Sudi is an angel in my life.
An angel in each one of our lives.
And also was truly my entry point to you two,
like where long before I met Bowen,
I like was listening to Las Culturistas.
That is cuckoo.
And now all the friends are here.
The friends are here.
And we're at the table
and I can say that after working with
80 on the program shrill,
I actually did have a bone to pick
because I was cast in the series.
I had a actually pivotal role
in the episode of Waham,
which was written by Sudi, as we said.
Now the character, he did not have written by Sudi, as we said. Yes. Now, the character.
Oh.
He did not have a name.
A name.
His name was Handler.
Yes.
So, I said to myself, I would like to give him a name.
Chelsea.
Very close, Bellen.
Okay.
You're a sister to me.
Yes.
Literally sister life.
Literally sister life.
Literally sister life.
Hashtag.
At the end.
At the end.
At the end of the words.
Now, I said to myself, I'm doing a backstory for the character of Handler.
He is Chelsea Handler's cousin.
Wow.
And he met Vanessa's character, who I work for, in the film Shrill.
The film Shrill, of course.
Every episode is a film, I think. I agree show, of course. Every episode is film.
I agree and I want an Oscar
badly. Yes.
Actually, Oscars can go to TV shows now.
Marriage Story. That's true.
I think that they
met at a white woman event that Chelsea
Handler was at and she said,
you should meet my cousin.
That's how he got the job.
His last name actually is Handler. Mr. Handler was at. And she said, you should meet my cousin. And that's how he got the job. So his last name actually is Handler.
Mr. Handler.
Mr. Handler.
And his first name is,
say it with me.
Chastain.
Yes.
Chastain Handler.
Chastain,
not said weird as Chastin.
No.
Actually spelled like Jessica Chastain's last name.
Wow.
No relation.
That's really nice.
That's beautiful.
So that's actually,
that was who I was on set.
You weren't actually interacting with Matt.
You were interacting with Chastain.
And that's how it felt.
Yeah.
And that's how it felt.
Okay, so Engineer Doug is telling us to go to break.
We'll be right back.
And I want to hear,
no, I want to hear more about this.
I really do.
I wasn't sure what to do there for a second,
but Doug is over there behind the glass saying,
break, break.
I'm like, yes, okay.
And he's got a weapon, so we gotta go.
We gotta go.
We'll be right back with Aidy Bryant.
And we're back.
And we're back.
The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.
I love that.
I love that.
Oh my gosh.
Welcome.
And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.
You're recording us?
I am disgusted.
Never in a million years after everything we've been through
did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy.
We were friends.
How could you do this to me?
I don't trust her.
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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999,
a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
His father in Cuba.
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or his relatives in Miami.
Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
as part of the My Cultura podcast network,
available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ,
three-time Olympian, and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby,
journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast,
we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.
We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts,
you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we
experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there.
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I'm Julian Edelman.
I'm Rob Gronkowski.
Guess what folks?
We're teammates again,
and we're going to welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes.
I'm a dude.
You're a dude.
And dudes on dudes is our brand new show.
We're going to highlight players,
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guys that we played against legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them.
And we'll get into the types of dudes.
What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk?
We got studs, wizards.
We got freaks.
Or dudes dude.
We got dogs.
Dogs.
We'll break down their games.
We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak?
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So, actually, I want to hear you tell me more about the day.
That was so fun.
I want to know more about the day that was so fun i want to know
details about the day it was just very fun because it was like an absolute all-star squad where like
natasha leone was directing vanessa bear also starring and greta and sudi and and mad it was
just like so fun oh my god how amazing is nat Natasha Lyonne as a director? Oh my God.
Like, you worked with her as well.
I worked with her very briefly.
Yeah, on Nora.
On Nora.
This is a table of actors.
A table of actors.
It actually is a table of actors,
and we picked up on the fact that Natasha Lyonne,
our director, had also come from acting.
Yeah.
Yeah, you could actually pick that up.
You could actually pick that up.
That's actually true.
On set, you had a feeling.
Yeah, you had a feeling like,
you actually know how to talk to me.
And no one does.
And that's what I say every time I get to a set.
I'm like, no one here knows how to talk to me.
Except for Natasha.
Yeah, finally.
No, she's
unbelievable. Maybe for the... I can't do an
impression.
What?
Did you just try to launch
an impression of Natasha Lyonne here and now?
And you went, maybe.
Maybe for this.
No.
You can't.
You have to edit this out.
You can't do this.
No.
It's in our contract with iHeartRadio.
We can make no edits.
We can make no edits.
That's absolutely very bad for me.
Yeah.
And for everyone involved. This episode is actually what. That's absolutely very bad for me. Yeah. For everyone involved.
This episode is actually
what we call a steel trap prison.
Oh.
Yes.
A steel trap internet prison.
Oh my God.
Hit me with the hard ones then
and I'll absolutely crumble.
Okay,
thoughts on Second Amendment?
No.
No.
No.
No.
All she's saying is no.
I think,
do we think it's time
to ask the question?
Yeah, because I don't think you can probably,
unless you want to take one more crack at the Nazatia Leon.
Do you want to?
Yeah.
You know, for this sake.
No.
Maybe try.
What is she, Fran Drescher?
You're so bad.
I think you need to go lower hun
you're so bad
I don't know
I feel really awful
what are you talking
I feel bad about myself
we're not talking
we're not talking about this
I can't bring this energy
this is an impressions showdown
wait do you want to hear
an impression that I do
yeah
I have one too
so we can all go
okay okay okay
I'm Sandy Kenyon
and this is
Movie Minute
that's good
that's really good
and here's my Ariana Grande
hi everybody
it's me
yes
that's really good
wait that was like
Mickey Mouse
oh my god
what are your impressions
okay okay
now you might
not famous ones
that we all know
from watching your sketch
Matt
fucking shut up
fine
okay
are you ready?
I'm not going to say who it is
because I think you'll know.
Yes, yes.
Okay, ready?
Hey, man.
Wait, that was a bad one.
Let me try it again.
I think I know who that is.
No, wait.
I need to focus and actually try again.
Matt, stop.
Okay.
Hey, man.
No, I'm panicking.
It is Bart Simpson.
I can do it better.
That wasn't good
oh my god
oh my god
Sudi tried to do a Bart
today too
because you went on
the Simpsons ride
and I was like
shut up
I have
I think I've tried
to do my Bart
for Sudi
and she said it was bad
but I really think
I'm good
you actually are amazing
and it was really good
wait
I said it was close
you actually are amazing
and it was really good
that's my pull quote
I was gonna guess it was Marc. You actually heard amazing and it was really good. That's my pull quote.
I was going to guess it was Marc Maron.
Wow.
And that hurts.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
That was better.
That was good.
That was a good part.
That was better.
That was a good part.
You know, after I left my interview with Lauren, I had to go back.
Oh, my God.
That's my Marc. You better not.
You better not.
You better watch your ass.
I've been on that podcast.
She's been on the pod.
Have you?
Yes.
That's actually goals for me.
Wow.
Oh, it actually, it really was like so fun.
It's pretty cool.
And he's very insightful and asks great questions.
I agree.
I agree.
You know, someone said that we were the gay WTF.
I think that's true.
Do you feel that way?
Yeah.
Big time.
That's fun.
That's actually huge. That's actually huge.
That's actually huge.
And we're not nearly as insightful.
No, but are you?
No, you are.
Are you kidding me?
I've cried multiple times listening to the pod.
Not from our insight.
Yes.
I think sometimes when you guys deeply talk about your friendship or growing, I'm like,
damn, this is extremely real and extremely like heartfelt and true. I think that it helped
that we literally thought that 0.000
people would listen to it in the beginning
because it set a tone and we're still able to do that.
I wonder if we like sold a podcast now,
like if it would be,
we would even think to like share anything real.
I know.
You know what I mean? I have a question. Oh, yes. But before we ask the question. like, share anything real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
I have a question.
Oh, yes.
Before we ask the question.
No, no, no.
Yes, please.
When you're writing Shrill,
is it,
no, this,
because talking about
bringing real life to things.
Yeah.
How,
because it's based on
Lindy's like work.
Yeah, her book.
Yes,
but I would imagine
that everyone's stories
go into it.
Yeah, totally.
How many personal stories are in the show where you're like, that is so real?
You know, it's really a mix.
And it also, like, you know, I feel like the first season especially, we were, like, a lot tighter to the book.
And now the second season, we definitely, like, are a little bit looser.
And so there's pieces of, of you know and that's what a
writer's room is it's like you're breaking the
story together and adding little pieces
to build a whole thing
but definitely I mean
like in the second season there's a scene where I
like barf and then we like
say spoiler like say I love you
to each other and that was like something
that did happen to me like I don't know I
have many like things where I'm like,
that's straight from,
from the book of my life or whatever.
But,
but it's all like in an effort to tell something bigger or whatever,
you know?
But like,
I do think like deciding on those like emblematic details that tell
something about the story is like kind of what you have to find.
And often it's hard to kind of pull those out of thin air.
And it is easier to like kind of reach back
to like something in your own life
and twist it up or whatever.
Sure.
And then when you're doing it,
like and like when you're like acting
like the experience that you've already had,
is it, does it like scramble your brain a little bit
to be like, I gotta like stick
to like what this authentically was?
You know, the only time where it maybe kind of did that was in the first season, the fourth episode, which is like the pool party episode.
And like, and doing like, I kind of had like this like long monologue after words where I'm like kind of processing the day and like that was maybe one of the only times
where I was like like at times just because I was like man I kind of haven't been to this place in
a long time like in my mind yeah like uh I don't talk to myself this way like in or you know those
kinds of like hateful self-thoughts I really don't go there in the same in like towards my body and stuff like
that.
I just don't,
you know?
And it was kind of hard to like go to that place of like having that epiphany
or something.
I don't know.
This sounds very like actorly and lame,
but it was like,
it was a little like freaky that day,
you know?
Yeah.
And that's,
that's,
I've told you this.
It's,
that's a huge,
huge,
huge episode for
everyone watching it
because there's some analog
to like another aspect
to anyone who's watching
that's like,
like I,
like watching that episode,
I was like,
this is what bubble tea is.
Have I told you?
This is like what like me,
like going to like
an all Asian queer party
is in New York.
I'm just like,
what the fuck?
I like, what the fuck?
I did not know this existed.
And then processing it afterwards was mapped out exactly to that episode
where I was like,
I did not know how to process it afterwards
for a long time.
Yeah.
And I think sometimes even seeing something
where you're like,
oh my God,
this is so my shit or whatever.
It can be very hard to afterwards be like wow i've had
20 some years of like a lot of pain and shame and self-hatred for like kind of no reason yeah like
i mean not no reason but it's definitely like it is a little bit like you've agreed to live in this
system that yes now we all agree fucking sucks.
It sucks.
And that we're like trapped in
because we all know it,
but it's one of those things
that you can't just agree to all change.
Totally.
It's just like a mindset.
I will say one of my favorite things about the show
is that it really, really authentically
and like tonally just right
gets those specific emotional situations across like and those
dialogues that you have with other people when you're talking about real shit for example like
in the waham episode i said it to sudi i was like i gotta give kudos to all you guys because the
conversation that you and john cameron mitchell have after you come back. I am obsessed with that scene.
And you've come back from Waham and you're like,
I think it was fucked up,
but also women were enjoying it.
And it's very much like an observation
on those sorts of things
which have a high price point
and you go and there is community,
but you are being taken advantage of
if you choose to think of it that way.
And I thought that that scene
between you and him
was so truthfully and
authentically a scene of two people working it out.
Like you really like were so good in that scene.
You were so good in that scene.
It was such good writing.
And it moves the story forward too,
because it's like,
Oh,
like these two characters haven't interacted in this way.
Right.
Exactly.
And actually like,
you know,
John's performance there,
it's like for the first time ever, he was like really, the character was really engaging with her as like a pupil in a way.
And almost like he was challenging her. And I thought that that was just like, like a comedic examination of something.
Cause it's like,
you really presented the totality of that kind of experience,
which must be,
I should be enjoying this.
I am not.
Am I fucked up?
Is this fucked up?
Are we both kind of like,
I feel like that's like most of the human experience where like your whole,
I don't know, this is like a oversimplification, but like your whole high school experience, you're like, when I get to college, I'm going to be a different life.
And then you get to college and you're like, I don't know anybody.
I'm scared or whatever.
You know, it's like it's always that way where you kind of like think something is good, but then you get in it and you're like, I think this is bad.
It's too complicated,
and nothing is black and white good.
I was so impressed by that particular scene,
because now that I'm in a writer's room,
I know how hard it is with a lot of people to write something that feels like a conversation
that's really between two people.
There's so much more that goes into like writing TV and creating TV than you
think.
And so put something that's so felt so real,
like,
and so honest and really kind of like about what it was about on screen.
I thought it was like,
wow.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Loved.
Loved.
Wow.
And you know something?
I,
it didn't dawn on me until like way after the fact
that like this season,
this most recent season,
used like song covers as a plot device.
And I was just like,
I didn't realize until after.
I mean,
this is obviously intentional,
but I was like,
oh wait,
Peter singing God Only Knows.
Thank God you brought it up.
And,
and Annie singing It's All Coming Back to Me.
Yes.
And,
and Lolly singing
fucking
Lolly's whole performance this season.
Lolly is unreal.
Emily, Fightmaster, incredible.
That relationship, that
arc, you love
to see it.
Emily, a star.
A star. Oh, and they're
a very hot person.
And I think it's okay to say.
One of the most gorgeous people in the world.
They are too hot.
It's actually a crime.
And I hate them. Sorry, now I hate them.
Now we hate them.
But the song selection, all
very queer songs. Can I reveal
something? Yes.
I put my ass on
tape doing
Peter Smith's
role
so this is what happened
this is BTS
there is a
tape which I didn't want to take
and you were very funny Matt
you were so funny
which was kind of
not the point
Peter's very funny in the beginning
but it quickly turns.
It's real.
And so Peter is the star.
The star.
But because I knew Sudi had written this Handler part for me.
Yes.
We actively in the writer's room were like, this will be Matt.
This truly bitchy king gay assistant.
You're so good at it
it was really fun
do you remember Matt I also tried to pressure you to sing
on the stage
you were like you should sing
you were looking at the ground kicking your feet and you were like sing a little
witch
I was like get up there
and just like sing something
I think I did a little bit
I think a little tiny bit you did
I think I said to like
cause the character has to like get everyone up out of their seats and I think one of a little bit. I think a little tiny bit you did. I think I said to like,
cause the character has to like get everyone up out of their seats.
And I think one of the times I came out and I was like,
get up,
get up.
They were just like,
what was that?
Natasha Lyonne was like,
what did you do?
Yes.
And,
um,
so that didn't make the cut.
Oh no.
Get up,
get up.
That's actually a hit. Get up. Get up. That's actually a hit. Get up.
Get up.
Oh. You gotta get up.
I don't know. We're gonna workshop it.
And it's not gonna be for us.
It'll be for Dua. For Dua.
Absolutely almost 45 minutes into this.
That's actually gonna be for Dua.
I think it's time we add. No, stop.
Because I'm still talking about we ask. No, stop. What?
I'm still talking about being on set.
Oh, yes.
Jesus.
Okay, I'm done.
Oh.
Anyway, watch Shrill.
Please.
Please watch it. How are you feeling?
Do me a favor.
Please watch Shrill.
Tell your friends.
How are you feeling about season two?
Like, now that it's been out.
Oh, it's so nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is really. It's a very different, because I don't know, being on SNL is like so great,
but it's definitely like when people come up, they're like, hey, you're funny.
Or like whatever, you know, it's just like a quick.
And I would imagine people are like, what you've done.
It's just so much more intense.
It's so much, but it's also incredibly meaningful.
And like, I really make an effort to like like I can't respond to everything that comes in.
But I like I really read it all as much as I can.
And it really, really like, you know, when I'm like fighting about the marketing of the show or all those things, there are times where I'm like, what the fuck is this for?
And then I'm like, no, that's what it's for.
I do it for the goddamn girls.
Like, yeah, that is literally why I wanted to do this and why I started and what I wanted as a child.
So, like, to be doing that, it is a dream.
Like, it's a total dream.
I feel like the impact is outsize.
It's, like, huge.
Like, I feel like there is some, like, really, really, like, visible, like, real, tangible, cultural, like like moving of the dial a little bit with this.
Like truly all of it.
I don't know if that's true.
No,
it's true.
Like watching it
and hearing Sudi talk about it,
maybe like that's like my little like unfair supplement
that I have to all this is hearing Sudi
like talk through the process
and like talk through the show
and what the room is like
and she has nothing but good things to say about it.
I'm just like,
oh,
like this is a huge show that like she's opening my eyes to all this stuff
that like i never give a second thought to well you know i'll tell you one wild small experience
that i've had which has been like extremely like active fit like instagram like food freaks kind
of who are like i only eat seeds yeah but i've been tagged in like multiple things
from women like that yeah who basically are like i gotta say i used to watch the show thinking like
fat people were lazy and gross and i now like have empathy and feel for them and i understand that
like they're human beings too and that to me was like holy fuck yeah how do you take that one like I know but you know what
it's positive grateful for it because
to me that's like what
TV can do yeah it's like
make you see people who are unlike
yourself and you're like oh
I'm interested in care about them or
whatever yeah and also we all know
it's like hard to get truly
anything made and the fact
that like you've gotten something made that like does is
meaningful to people and also is like so funny and great.
Like,
and it's gone on.
It's just like,
I'm sure it should be something that every day when you drink your coffee,
you think,
wow.
When I,
when I talk about the cultural impact,
I just mean that it's like good for the city of Portland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's it.
That's it.
That's all it is.
For Tusk, we love Tusk.
I was merely only talking about,
like it's great that people,
it empowers them,
but I was talking about the Portland community.
Yes.
That I'm happy that people there get to work,
and the coffee people.
Yeah. Like when you're on your way to set, I'm concerned that they're working. Yeah, and I want to be clear that people there get to work and the coffee people.
Yeah. Like when you're on your way to set,
I'm concerned that they're working.
Yeah, and I want to be clear
that I think what me having a TV show
is more important than pediatric surgeons
or anyone doing that kind of thing.
I don't even know what a pediatric surgeon does.
I don't even know.
I don't know what pediatrics is.
Doug.
Orthopedic, pediatric, chiropractic.
It's actually all the same to me.
It's all the same.
Doug just raised his sign.
He said ad break or else.
So we'll be right back with.
Ad break or else?
Or else.
We'll get into this.
He's a very big weapon.
Very big weapon.
This fall on Bravo.
It's time to turn up.
Think you've seen it all?
I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately.
We're friends like that.
Who needs enemies?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Cheers to being Germanic.
With the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Oh my gosh, can I take this in?
It's gonna be amazing.
New York City.
Everyone is a gossip.
No one gets a happier life.
Salt Lake City.
We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion.
And below deck sailing.
You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset.
Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+.
On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or his relatives in Miami.
At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ,
three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman.
And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.
We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through.
Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.
And T and I, well, we have no problem going there.
Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby
and iHeart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
I'm Julian Edelman.
I'm Rob Gronkowski.
Guess what, folks? We're teammates again.
And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes.
I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show.
We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against,
legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them.
And we'll get into the types of dudes.
What kind of types of dudes are there, Grunks?
We got studs, wizards.
We got freaks.
Or dudes dudes.
We got dogs.
Dogs.
We'll break down their games.
We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak?
Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude?
We're going to find out, Jules.
New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast
and we're back okay it's time to ask and now we have to ask the question i'm gonna hand it off to
you because here's the thing we actually said on our new podcast we're gonna do after our first
ad break we're always gonna ask the question and then here's the thing we were having too much fun
and spun off which i actually had a feeling what happened on this episode. I knew it would. I didn't even have a feeling.
So one of the things about this podcast
is that we ask
every guest
the same question. And the only
person we haven't asked is Margaret Cho
because we got too scared.
But we are going to ask you because I feel
very comfortable.
And I feel comfortable enough to ask the question that we've asked
to everyone else, which is what is the culture that made you ad bryant say culture was for you
this was the defining pop culture that came in a moment where you were like oh me i'm in that i'd
like to develop from based on this point you know i've listened to the show you have many times oh well then we could have really
saved me a lot of breath but so i definitely like you know there are things where i've i feel some
overlap with like other previous guests of course you know imagine they're all dead yeah yeah i will
say i was big into greece i was big into you know freaking pee freaking Pee Wee Herman. But I was thinking about this this morning
because I knew I was coming here.
I think I know where you were coming from.
You remember you were coming?
John Waters?
No.
Oh, I do find,
I feel like I found John Waters later though.
Like it wasn't the first.
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah.
But John Waters is big.
Okay, then I guessed wrong.
I think what I have to say is like
local commercials in Phoenix, Arizona, where I grew up.
It so often was like the wife of a man who owned a furniture store.
Who was like, and now I'm going to sing on camera.
And like that for me was, I just like, even as a child, I knew like, this is crazy.
Or like, I love her.
Here's Cheryl Towson with the theme.
Lights, camera, action, mattress.
Okay, there was one woman whose name was Debbie Gaby.
And she was like very Southern.
And she was like, hi, I'm Debbie Gaby.
And then she would, there was a song with it.
She worked at a place called Sleep America.
And she was like,
Sleep America, where America goes to sleep.
Which is absolute nonsense.
Sleep America, where America goes to sleep.
Can I ask something annoying?
Yeah, please.
Is this the inspiration behind Our Waterbeds Are the Best?
Absolutely, yes.
Actually, that was based on a woman,
a different Arizona commercial,
where this woman started singing these jazzy songs,
and the song was like,
Express flooring is the best,
call 1-800-EXPRESS.
And she did a little head bob there.
Can you sing one?
Make one up
or from your childhood.
But National American
University we all had, right?
One day, one night,
Saturday's alright.
Online's justified.
Nighttime, anytime.
Get your degree.
Set yourself free.
National American University.
Holy fuck.
Oh my god.
That's single.
It's a soaring melody.
I love it.
It's genius.
Whoever wrote that, God bless.
That was unbelievable.
I've never heard that.
I'm freaked.
That was really good.
National American University. That was unbelievable. I've never heard that. I'm freaked. That was really good.
National American University.
And the ads were, it was one person singing this, an amazing voice.
Gender is unclear, but it actually works perfectly because they cut to different people, generic people just lip syncing to it.
Just smile on their face, just lip syncing to the track.
And it's beautifully, beautifully done.
And then was it like personal injury,
like lawyers too?
Oh my God.
We had one that was 1-800-STEAMERS.
That's incredible.
There was another one.
It was like they would
steam your clothes.
Yes.
And then there was a...
Oh, steam your clothes.
Not carpets?
No, I don't know.
It gotta be carpet.
Yeah.
1-800-STEAMERS isn't for clothes. They don't know i gotta be carpet yeah 1-800-STEAMER-DIZZY for clothes they don't have
that money okay there was also i i have to say there was i think for me what like i was grabbing
on to was like there was an element of like sex yeah and like performance yeah that i wasn't
finding like in loose arizona yeah you know and it was such like
an element of like she's taking her moment and getting on cam i don't know it affected me it is
that is an energy and also it's like there's something about like how many takes there's
something about what did was she involved in the writing process of the jingle? There's something about what's that relationship.
Here's one that I really liked.
So this is from Sports Radio in the morning.
Okay.
Okay.
So this was the theme.
Sports Radio 66,
WFAN,
New York.
You know that?
Well, you've sang it in the past.
It's very good.
And it was a show about baseball and football
and all those things.
And yeah.
You don't have to go to Hollywood
to get a Hollywood tan.
To get a Hollywood tan.
Oh my God.
To get a...
That's beautiful.
What a beautiful little lilts and grace notes.
Amy, what were you going to say?
Well, I was just going to say,
I also feel like part of it was
that there was a little Western flavor,
like a little Southwestern taste.
You like country?
You know, I'm not a huge country head.
I like the older stuff,
but as a child, my next door neighbor,
he worked, I think, for some sort of country music station.
And he was a DJ.
And so I was always like, yeah, I'm kind of in the industry.
Well, because part of this was because I have a feeling that I feel like we all kind of attach to these commercials in a way.
For us, for us little show people, we're like, oh, there's an entry point for entertainment that is kind of accessible and attainable.
And it's in my town.
And it's in my town.
This was made in my town, which was big to me.
Hashtag Arizona.
Hashtag Arizona.
But there was one that was for this casino that was kind of on the outside
edge of town
and it was like
a montage of like
poker chips
and like hot women
in red dresses
and I'm gonna sing it
for you now
are you ready?
Yeah go
we love that
Wild horse pass
on the east side
V-Cweaver
on the west
Go to the river
Healer River Casino
Where the winners go.
Heal the river casino, where the winners go.
That's actually really emotional.
I know.
And it's like, who fucking wrote it?
Who wrote it?
Honestly, I just had chills thinking about it.
And like, you know, think of me like fat, 12, rosacea, one tooth, absolutely sunburned,
and just being like, I'm gonna go to the river.
To the river.
Where the winners go.
It's transformative.
Now, we're talking about this casino
that's in Arizona.
Can I tell you something
that I've noticed
about Arizona?
Please.
A lot of state pride.
Or maybe I just watch
The View every day.
She's always like,
Arizona girl.
Yeah.
Megan.
Megan.
And you went to high school
with Megan.
Yes,
and you know,
she loves to say this
and we did not know each other. We went to high school with Megan. Yes, and you know, she loves to say this, and we did not know each other.
We went to high school together.
She was a senior when I was a freshman.
And that's like a gap, a chasm that you can't really cross.
I mean, like, no freshmen talk to seniors.
Well, also, like, her dad had a computer lab named after him.
In the school?
Yeah.
I would imagine that every elementary school
and every school there has a McCain printing lab.
Yeah, I think it was based on donations and stuff.
Sure, sure, sure.
I don't know.
And especially now.
There's something about,
okay, Colorado is literally
hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
No, but it's the same.
It's the West.
No, it's the West.
It's actually the same.
There is this arid culture.
I mean, I don't mean literally the farmland is arid.
It's just like everyone's brains are bad.
You are absolutely a villain.
No, I'm not.
Can I tell you something?
What you're doing today, you're attacking culture.
I'm not attacking culture.
So you're attacking arid culture and you're attacking Arizona and the whole West.
Wow.
And you've attacked the jowls of a young Hillary.
I'm just saying, growing up in Colorado, this is like truth.
And I'm so grateful for like, whatever, like just growing up around all the Mormons and the whatevers and the ski people.
But like, it was not meant for a little gay Asian boy like me to thrive in.
I agree with you completely that like I feel like a little bit like Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico.
It's like important to be normal.
Yes.
Like it's very like that is their culture is like everybody's kind of the same.
Right.
We all kind of dress the same.
It's important that we're having normal, nice lives, which, you know, I think is very comfortable.
But if you're not feeling like you fit into that normal, you're like, holy fuck.
I can't exist here a little bit.
Right.
If you have New York values.
Well, this is the thing.
Thank you.
And fashion.
And a boot. You wear boots in New York? Wait Well, this is the thing. Thank you. And fashion is trash. And a boot.
You wear boots in New York?
Wait.
And a cowboy boot.
And a cowboy boot in New Orleans.
I, okay, no one's brains are bad in there.
In there.
Some people, it's just not for people.
No, they're actually burned by the sun.
The brains are bad.
Yeah, the brains are actually bad.
Some of them are really bad.
Because they don't wear sunscreen on their scalp.
I'm just saying, like, it's a weird ass place.
My thing about, I love Denver.
But when we went, I told you, right?
Brittany Colston.
Yeah.
You've attacked this girl before.
I have not attacked her.
She literally saw me 10, 11 years after me and Pat Regan eating burritos at Legal Pete's before our show.
Before I Don't Think So, Honey. She comes up to me. Pete's before our show before I don't think so honey
she comes up to me she goes Bowen
I haven't seen you in forever
I thought you were going to be a doctor you were always so good
at math I'm like get away from
me girl and truly
but then she said the bleakest thing to me which was
it's crazy that you went to New York
cause no one leaves
here and I was like you cannot
do this you need to like you cannot do this damn
you need to like
you need to like
tell me how beautiful it is
to live here
yeah
I would say
like I am like
rooting for Denverites
all the fucking way
I've never been to Denver
you gotta go
Denver's
Denver's phenomenal now
that was one of our best shows
I don't think it's
only live in Denver
I'm just
guys when I talk about Denver
when I talk about Colorado
I mean growing up there yes oh please whenever I make reference to Long. I don't think it's only live in Denver. I'm just, guys, when I talk about Denver, when I talk about Colorado, I mean growing up there.
Yes.
Oh,
please.
That's whenever I make reference
to Long Island,
I always talk about it.
It's,
it's,
it's how I interact.
Yes,
yes,
yes.
Cause you have to understand something.
I don't know when you guys
realize this about yourself,
but I remember when I realized
I had New York values.
I actually do.
What did you realize?
I actually remember the moment
I realized,
oh my God,
I think I have
New York values
yeah
when was it
yeah don't leave us
on the fucking
edge
I'm edging over here
yeah I actually
remember the moment
I was watching
American Idol
oh
okay
and Ryan Seacrest
said
you're going to Hollywood
and I you thought I want to go I thought And Ryan Seacrest said, you're going to Hollywood.
And I... You thought, I want to go.
I thought, Hollywood.
And I came in my pants.
And that was also when I realized what that was.
Because that had never happened before.
And that first time is always like, what's happening?
And so then I was really uncomfortable.
And I was kind of walking around in school.
And I was scared to talk to the health teacher.
Yeah.
So anyway.
This is obscene.
I didn't know where I was going with the New York values thing.
No, it was good.
It was good.
It was good.
So you and Megan are probably the two most famous people from your hometown.
No, I think Emma Stone
What?
Another Arizona girl
Really?
Do you guys bond about that?
We've talked about it definitely, we did go to the same high school also
Yes, but did you guys know each other?
Barely, barely
I mean, she was a freshman when I was a sophomore
Oh, but a smaller gap
Yeah, a smaller gap
But no, I don't know I gap. Yeah, a smaller gap. A smaller gap, for sure.
But no, I don't know.
I definitely, I feel like,
at least with these commercial women,
I was very like,
I think those are all the characters
that I play on SNL now.
Yeah.
You know, I don't know.
You are very good at,
and this is something that Sudie is very good at, too.
When we were doing Sketch Together,
she was very good at playing like that girl,
you know,
or that woman,
you know,
that you thought you were the only person who knew.
Like my favorite is when you played the woman on the airport,
on the airplane.
Well,
I'm a fan.
Wow.
Okay.
So let me ask you,
let me tell you something.
You don't just come in here and say,
I'm a fan of you.
We're a fan of you. You're actually actually you actually are a guest that we wanted to get
on the show for years and had scheduling conflicts i know but don't you feel like it almost happened
so many times where it would be like i'm available thursday and you guys were like we're only available
friday we're in spain that day some difficult starlet okay well you actually you actually are
the most famous person here and that's an. And that's an accusation. That's an accusation.
And that actually gives you power.
And we're on the receiving end of a bad power dynamic.
Yeah.
I, I don't know that that's true.
I think that Bowen is more famous.
That's not true.
Fuck you.
I mean that genuinely.
I think.
And I genuinely reject.
I reject this.
Okay.
Well, Bowen 80.
I guess because I feel like that you've been getting the press.
I mean, he was written about by Miss Dow.
No.
Can we talk about this, you think?
I think to some degree.
To some degree, we can.
I'm excited to see what degree you guys choose.
So January 20-something.
Sorry, I'm screaming.
It's a Saturday.
It's a Saturday. The piece is going to come out. And I had a feeling the whole time. I was like, I'm screaming. It's a Saturday. It's a Saturday.
The piece is going to come out.
And I had a feeling the whole time.
I was like, I'm not going to like this.
I'm not going to like this.
So you decided beforehand.
Meanwhile, talking.
No, no, no, no, no.
Here's the thing.
Talking to Maureen was great.
We had such a nice time together.
But I was like, there's going to be something about this no matter what.
No matter what is written that's going to upset me.
And then sort of had that sort of and i hadn't been sleeping well and truly like i get the new york times emails like every fucking morning at 6 a.m um and it pops up while i'm like
tossing and turning in bed and i'm literally sleep deprived had just come from a damn pre-tape yes
um that's as low as you can go it's as low as you can go six in the morning on saturday morning and I'm literally sleep deprived. Had just come from a damn pre-tape. Yes.
That's as low as you can go.
That's as low as you can go.
Six in the morning on Saturday morning.
Having just shot a short for SNL. Having just shot a short for SNL.
It's crazy.
As low as possible.
As hard as you can.
It sounds horrible.
It's horrible.
I just mean it's like true delirium.
I'm kidding.
It's absolutely.
You've been awake for like 48 hours.
Oh, 100%.
Yes.
I'm fucking tired as hell.
Anyway, so then I read through the whole piece
and I was like, this is really fucking weird.
Yeah.
And then went to work the next day
and then just was feeling so out of it.
And then I get the most blessed text in the world
from AD Brilliant that says,
hey, I don't know if you're blocking the next thing
but if you're not
just like come swing
by my little house
for a chat
and I was like
wow
okay this is what I
I knew that this was
what I needed
yeah
so you had to go
through security
because there's security
yeah they keep us
separate actually
so I gave him a pass
yeah
main cast actually
is in the castle
yes
and featured they still have to is in the castle. Yes.
And featured.
They still have to be in the swamp.
Yeah, that's right.
We send down our scraps of our old spaghetti for them to eat in the swamp.
The scraps of spaghetti.
The scraps of spaghetti for the swamp.
And then I go into her.
And then we just had like truly the most meaningful, best, most like balming conversation I've ever had at that place. Truly. God, Bowen.
Like you like talked me through it in such
a perfect way and
you like really like
found every single little
wrinkle contour that I
hadn't even thought of yet to be like and actually
what you're experiencing is maybe this
and I've experienced this version
of it and I was just like, whoa, yes.
Crazy.
And I don't know.
It was just, it meant a lot.
And I still think about that.
Well, I love you dearly.
And I think it is, I mean, it's kind of like just what we were touching on of like, it's
as low as you can go.
No, it's fucking not.
Like kind of where it's like, you feel incredibly honored to be like written about in the New
York Times.
You feel like, oh my God, I can't believe I have worked so long and so hard to be at this place.
But then at the same time, it's a really bizarre experience to like open up your personhood,
your family, your sense of self to be like consumed by the public.
Absolutely.
And I think if you have like any sense of like grounded feelings,
it's like,
you're like,
I'm in outer space and there's no handbook.
And,
and even like a therapist can help you,
but they can't know what it's like.
And like,
it's just a really,
it is kind of one of those things where like
I really end up
turning to Kate
or I really end up
turning to like
people who are
experiencing it
with me
at the same time
because it's like
it's just hard to describe
and you don't want
to sound ungrateful
but it is
it's really dizzying
and like freaky
I mean to be out of
control of your
narrative at all
has to be a like
crazy making experience
like especially
for people who are used to creating
and used to expressing.
Totally.
You know what I mean?
You're used to it being deliberate.
Yes.
And also,
especially with you,
you are very,
I actually hadn't thought about it like this
until now, really.
You are someone who is so detail-oriented
and you're so,
you like things the way that you like them.
Like you are very,
like I think that you like aspects of control.
And so to hand it over,
like to someone who's writing a piece about you,
that's going to be probably reached by more people
than you've been able to reach right now
in terms of,
hey, here's something about me.
Like this person has a lot of power
and a lot of control
over that narrative yeah and they do that and so i can see reading it and even though i think it was
a you know there was nothing about the piece to me that i objected to for you yeah i can see being
in your head and being like well this is me and i am allowed to have an opinion on it and a take on it because it has an opinion and a take on me
sure sure sure so anyway
that's my little relationship
but I will say I'm not
surprised that
that well it's not that I'm not surprised
just that it's like of course she
reached out because I feel like you are the kind
of person and I could sense this like even
like watching you through the screen when
I was just like a fan of yours like when I was watching SNL I was like there's something where we the
audience and that's why I'm not surprised that people have connected with Shrill like you do
have that quality where it's like when you're like joking on SNL and you're doing these things you
really feel like you're doing it with us and there's a connection to that we have to you and
so the fact that you are so actually lovely
is just like, well, I could have told you that.
I feel like that really comes through on screen.
That's so nice.
Well, it's true.
It's very touching to me.
But there was something,
remember when 80 got hired
and you and I were just watching?
Because I was there, I was a part of the process.
You were part of the process.
I was part of the decision-making process.
But just watching it, because remember it. I was a part of the process. You were a part of the process. I was part of the decision-making process. But just watching it,
because remember it just being a thing
where you were like,
oh, that's that person.
It's what you describe
when we play star or actress.
A star is someone who pops on the screen
and you're like,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Stop, stop.
Let me look at you.
Matt brought this up the other day
and it's like,
the encapsulated thing about Star
is that they show up on screen,
and you go, I get it.
Yeah.
I feel like-
And with 80, it was like,
day motherfucking one,
you're like, yeah, everyone-
But correct me if I'm wrong,
you had to work in the beginning
to get things done.
Yes, yes, yes, of course, of course.
I mean, obviously,
you're so talented, and that's apparent,
but I remember on that first season,
you had the best friend sketch of Cecily.
Girlfriend talk show.
And then I remember you started to get more opportunities
and I really saw you shining.
But I think that, for example, with you, Beau,
in first episode, they had you doing a weekend feature.
And I think with you, it was a little bit different.
Oh, big time.
And that is why every new cast member has like such a totally different experience because i would say it took me like two years to really be like getting stuff
on that i had written and part of it was just like i was like i don't know how to fucking do this i
had never been on camera ever really ever no i was like doing you know second
city shows and like improv shows in chicago like had never even done like a commercial or anything
and so it was just like i don't know how to do this like it took me a little while and you came
from improv more right did you sketch at second city yes second city is sketch it's it's weird i
definitely did more improv like that, that was where I started.
But it is, like, yeah, I kind of did stuff with The Annoyance,
which was, like, writing or improvising to write, like, if that makes sense.
And then Second City is, like, sketch.
So, yeah, I mean, I had written sketch, but it was just, like, you know.
On that level with that kind of parameters and focus.
And that kind of pressure.
It's cuckoo. It's cuckoo.
It's cuckoo how you relearn everything.
Yeah.
Cause I mean,
I,
I kind of like to say that I,
that I kind of like was broken down completely last season as a writer.
And I,
I want to,
I want to retract what I said because it made it sound like it was easier for
you immediately at the show.
And it's always hard.
But I know what you mean where it's like first week.
I feel like the listeners might be like, he just was an asshole.
You had the kind of first year that everyone has where it's like you have to figure it out.
It wasn't like all of a sudden you arrived and were treated like a prince.
The amount of times I've sobbed in Sudi's office.
Oh, the sobbing is in Sudi's office. Yeah.
Oh, the sobbing is key.
Yeah.
It's important.
I mean, and I definitely, like,
I remember there was a time where, like,
I had just started on the show,
and, like, my piece, like, crushed at the table.
And so I was like, it's definitely going to go.
And then it didn't get picked.
And I was like, that hurts.
And then I went home, and Connor, like, still was was in chicago like shutting down our apartment so i was like home
alone and i like reached to throw something away and i leaned forward and hit my head on like a
wall basically in this apartment that i had just gotten because i like wasn't used to it and i
remember i slid down the wall and was like, like just totally.
You had a Rachel McAdams moment.
Yes, a full blown.
Rachel McAdams.
And it was like, you know, you're fine, honey.
You're on a Saturday Night Live.
They're paying you.
But it was like, you know, you lose your sense of yourself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's confusing and, you know, I don't know.
It's hard. But the fact that I don't know. It's hard.
But the fact that it's Saturday Night Live makes it hard.
It's not a comfort.
It makes it harder.
Because when you're a first-year person at SNL, I would assume, it's kind of like, and I felt like this with the audition, too.
It's like this is your moment to do it.
And so if it's not going great, that's what's in your head.
It's not, I'm on SNL. Don't worry. It'll be fine not it's not i'm on snl don't worry it'll be
fine it's i'm on snl fuck yes and it's funny that you say that because like truly when i got hired
i never was like jumping up and down like oh my god i got hired as now like i right away was like
oh fuck yeah i'm terrified and like this is gonna be hard and i'm scared yeah and i i never really
had like a celebratory moment maybe maybe until like Shrill came out,
because I was just like, I'm like terrified.
Well, that's an interesting thing though.
No, it's not.
Truthful, because I also didn't really have any moment like that either.
I was just like, oh, fuck.
Like this has to happen.
There's an opportunity window that I have to like.
Yeah, of both of you guys.
Like,
do you think that
how you felt
about how your audition went
played into
how you felt
when you got cast?
Like,
did you leave your test
thinking I crushed?
I don't know
that I thought I crushed,
but I definitely,
I remember like
when I was auditioning,
I had gotten,
I kind of had met
Jason Sudeikis before
and, and he had kind of mess met Jason Sudeikis before and and
he had kind of messaged me and been like you should do this political impression because
she's gonna host a debate and he had kind of like given me like an insider yeah yeah he had told me
like you should get candy down yeah you know that put that in your audition and I remember just like
kind of being like maybe I should listen to Jason know, he's giving me this like insider tip. But at the same time, I was like, that's not me.
You know, like I'm not like a impression person.
And this is my one chance to audition for SNL.
And I really just want to do like my shit so that if they hire me, I am like hired for
my shit and not because I was trying to be something that I thought they might like.
And that is a big question to ask of yourself. And so I really only did like dumb characters that I thought they might like. That is a big question you have to ask of yourself.
And so I really only did like dumb characters.
I did almost no impressions.
I wrote stuff that I thought was funny that like I liked, you know.
And leaving, that was my guiding light.
Like when I got hired was that I was like all I did was stuff that I like to write.
That's what they hired me for.
Like that I can do. You know what I mean was stuff that I like to write that's what they hired me for like I that
I can do you know what I mean instead of feeling like okay I'm the girl who doesn't yeah no yeah
like I was just like okay I can hold on to like the stuff that I like to do I don't know it's
because I guess it must have been comfortable like they liked that yeah they'll like my work
totally like I want to continue to pretend yeah i couldn't i don't know so so i
didn't leave being like i crushed but i left at least being like i did my fucking thing and either
they like it or they don't like you know that's me you know how did you feel well i just want to
first off say that that like takes so much like conviction of self to like stick to though yeah
well i mean like and you were like you were a damn zygo. You were like 29.
No, 29.
I was going to say like 19 and then 25.
But like so young.
I don't think I could have done it.
That would have been three, four years earlier.
There's no way.
I wasn't ready.
Literally, I was going to say 21
and then my brain shifted to 19 and i said 29 i'm
i had to explain myself yeah okay because you're 89 that's right you're an 89 year old woman
you're sick i'm sick and not doing well you're sick but you look young thank you so that's the
sickness congratulations on that that's the sickness i felt like i by the end I
kind of let the whole
like the whole
like mold of like what they wanted
to see of me kind of pervade
it which felt weird
but I think there's like smarts
to that too I don't know
it can go either way you have to just commit
to it I remember the first time
for me it was like I did my own thing and felt great about it.
And then the second time,
I felt like I played the game too hard
and felt like, ugh, about it.
But either way,
I think that people that go in with a plan
and are strategic,
they can be successful.
But also people that go in there and say,
this is what I do, god damn.
Those people are rad.
It's just a choice to do that.
And I think a lot of times
it don't dang work out.
Yeah, it don't dang.
It don't dang.
I do have to really quickly
say that I cribbed from
Aidy Bryant syntax up top
when I said, yes, I damn do.
That's an Aidyism.
And she owns it.
To put damn before a verb. That's what it is. And she owns it. Wow. To put damn before a verb.
Ah!
That's what it is.
Oh my God.
And I, wait, can I give a, can I give a, a, a, my mother damn bird update?
Yes!
She was texting me from the beach the other day.
She's now in Florida.
My parents go down there.
They're snowbirds now.
And they have a condo.
And she was on the beach with my aunt and my cousin,
who recently went through a breakup.
So they were at the beach.
Christina.
Yes.
Wow, you are literally sister life.
That's a good friend.
Literally sister life.
Literally sister life.
Hashtag.
Yeah, hashtag, actually.
Literally sister life hashtag after those words, actually.
And my mom famously said, damn bird.
The last time she texted me from a beach because a damn bird came over and took the sandwich.
Yeah, baby.
Yeah, we remember this.
We know this.
So she knows that she's become popular on the podcast for damn bird.
And so now people will be in my DMs every time I post a picture of Katrina and they'll say, damn bird. And so now, and people will be in my DMs every time I post a picture of Katrina
and they'll say damn bird
and they know to stylize it with two M's,
which is the way that she spells damn.
So she says to me,
she texts me,
oh my God.
I was like, what?
She goes, literally damn bird.
A bird pooped on me.
She can't go to the damn beach, the woman!
Damn bird 2.
Damn bird 2. Return of the bird.
Damn bird 2, colon,
return of the bird.
Damn bird. Damn bird.
These damn birds. Actually, it won't stop.
Damn bird.
I am huge. I stand
seagulls. They're fucking
wild. You stand seagulls?
Wild.
They're wild.
Lawless.
Because they don't think about anything but themselves.
No, when Connor and I worked on a cruise ship, sometimes the seagulls-
You did improv on a cruise ship?
Yes.
Yes.
Proudly.
Proudly.
But there used to be these seagulls that would come and basically target children because
they knew they were weak and absolutely go hard to get their fries
like on the back of this boat.
I would say our hearts
were so sad for being at sea
for four months and doing bad improv
that our only joy became watching
the seagulls eat the children's fries.
These birds
actually... They're strong.
It's actually a real culture.
These birds are strong. It's actually real culture number 103. These birds actually don't kick. They're strong. They're strong. These birds, it's actually a rule of culture. These birds are strong.
It's actually rule of culture number 103.
These birds are strong.
I needed a rule of culture.
We haven't done that many.
I'm sorry.
You have to understand that we're just now getting back into the flow of hosting.
Of course.
And we feel very, how do you like our setup?
I love this.
Also, like, I hope you think we're doing a good job,
and I hope the listeners like this.
I think that everyone is thinking this episode
is actually going to win an Oscar.
This is an all-time good one.
Did you hear they're doing a podcast
big major award show?
Okay, that should be illegal.
It's a golden mic.
I've been saying this maybe for some time,
that there should be no Oscars, no Golden Globes, no Emmys. There should be one. There should be illegal. It's a golden mic. And I've been saying this maybe for some time that there should be no Oscars,
no Golden Globes,
no Emmys.
There should be one.
There should be one.
There should be one
and they do TV
and movies at the same time
and they take all the money
and they give it to the people.
It's getting dark.
There's too many.
The Critics' Choice
and the Nickelodeon Awards.
You know what I mean?
Well, really what we need
to get rid of
is the Nickelodeon Awards
because they're the most toxic.
They're the most toxic.
It's actually Rules of Culture number 36. get rid of is the Nickelodeon Awards because they're the most toxic. They're the most toxic and bad. It's actually rules of culture number 36.
The most toxic are the Nickelodeon Awards.
It's getting to be inhumane to make these people buy a new outfit for a new thing every week for about three months.
They're wasting our time.
Yes.
And I'm not saying us as people who attend.
I'm saying people who watch.
Yes!
This is rude.
And it's stupid.
First of all, I love some of these people that get awards so much.
I love Laura Dern.
You making me watch 15 different Laura Dern award speeches doesn't make me like Laura Dern more.
Exactly.
It honestly takes this person that I guess you, the industry,
are trying to be like,
you like her, so pay,
like give us your money,
like watch her on programs.
It's like, no,
by oversaturating these people,
you drive us nuts.
It's bad.
You drive us cuckoo crazy.
And this might be like a weird afterthought,
but like to make a damn,
to make a damn team of caterers work an after party,
five different after parties in Los Angeles alone every week from like
December to March.
It's like,
excuse me.
It's just so,
it's such a strain on it just for this like weird little industry that
doesn't really matter in the end.
And also I'm sorry. And I, and I will really matter in the end. And also, I'm sorry.
And I will take this to the streets.
Come on.
They've got to stop sending us screeners.
They have to send links.
It has to be links.
It actually needs to happen.
I don't know what the rules are, but they have to do this.
It's crazy.
Okay, the pale of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel stuff.
They need to fucking check themselves.
Honestly.
That might be my, I don't think so.
Come on.
How fucking dare they
send me a suitcase
of DVDs
in order to get me
to vote for them.
And I will say this
to Maisel's face.
I'll say this to anyone.
This is insane
what they're doing.
Well, literally,
literally like.
Our planet is dying.
So for everyone
that doesn't know,
everyone listening
who doesn't get
WGA screeners,
like the WGA like does the awards.
And so Amazon, being Amazon,
sent a, I guess it was like a little makeup box.
But like a 15 pound box of discs.
Yeah.
And it had a little extra stuff like a postcard
from wherever Maisel had been and then
little coasters which were cheap and then you could actually use it as like a makeup box or
like a little lunch box i guess but it had to be every single one had to be what 30 bucks yeah
assembled by like a child and shit and like and of course fucking amazon is yeah and it's like
there's no hubris and they also sent out a huge Modern Love box.
No.
Did you get that one?
No, I don't know what that is.
It was like literally like a pirate's chest arrived at the Greta Teitelman house.
And I was like, I don't know what to do with this.
Because I'm not watching Modern Love.
It's so much waste.
It's so much waste.
It's so bad.
I mean, because Connor and I are both in multiple unions.
Oh, I can't imagine.
We're doing double time.
And we've now, I guess there's a way to opt out.
And I think we've possibly figured it out.
But it's like the fact that these are fucking going to people's like weird business manager's offices and then just going right into the trash.
Yeah, it's bad.
It makes me fucking crazy.
This industry is garbage.
It's actually most of the Texas sized plastic island is Maisel Lunchboxes.
Absolute.
How fucking dare you send me a suitcase?
But you know what this is?
It's for the elderly people who are in the unions.
Oh my God.
Because they want to stick to DVD players and they don't know how to stream shit.
That is literally nuts.
I don't know how to stream shit. That is literally nuts.
I don't know.
That's like Whoopi Goldberg on The View yelling at AOC because she doesn't respect her elders.
It's like, that's because we all need to have a conversation, sweetie.
Did that happen?
Yes!
I don't know.
We all are.
But you know, when Aidy was on The View, I texted her.
I was like, yeah, tell me everything.
It was, it was, also, I think I told you this,
that they were like, you have to come back and guest host.
And I was like, I will never do that.
I absolutely would.
There's nothing that makes me more panicked
than hearing them all do their political takes
and then them turning to me.
And me being like, ah!
I think I would do that.
It's also... And Meghan McCain would be like
same
it's good
cause I'm gay
you have to do it
I think that one day in my life
I will be on the view
you will
yes you will
even if I have to be in a damn chicken costume
sometimes they do do that
yeah they do be doing
it's called chicken of the week
is that real?
The chicken comes out and does a dance.
Is this real?
With joy.
No.
Anything is possible, honestly.
I would believe anything you said about The View
or the Kelly Clarkson Show,
because I just assumed that you know.
Kelly Clarkson Show is seconds away
from having a Chicken of the Week.
Like, we found this chicken actually in Arizona,
and this is an amazing chicken,
and they tweeted us, so here's the video.
It'll be just a video of a chicken
and she'd be like, I'm crying. That was so
funny. Oh my god, I'm actually crying.
And when we come back, it's gonna be Reba.
And after the break,
Reba would come out. And she would say, I love
that chicken. That was funny. She'd go, I thought
it was funny too. I could literally
do a whole 60 minute Kelly Clarkson
show. Maybe I should do that as a live show. Come out kelly and just have guests reba rocks reba rock actually it's rule of culture
number 49 reba rocks thank you for joining we always encourage always encourage guests to join
we love when guests join actually yes i think doug's giving me a look no we well doug can keep
looking this is crazy you actually can keep looking This is crazy
You actually can keep looking
I don't want this to end
Hans
I don't like the look
I don't like the look
We have to
This is getting crazy
It's getting crazy
No well
So this actually
It's actually okay
It's okay everyone
We're actually
We're gonna do
I don't think so honey now
Now you tell them
What I don't think so honey is
Okay every week
We take one moment
To rail against
One moment We take one moment to rail against something in culture.
We take one moment.
No, she's not a fan.
She thinks it's only a moment long.
Fuck this.
Oh my God, I'm actually mad and crying.
Oh my God.
We take one moment to rail against something in culture that is pissing us off.
Yes, queen.
Absolute queen.
Absolute queen.
One moment.
One moment. Okay. All right, so listen. Should I go first Absolute queen. Absolute queen. One moment. One moment.
Okay.
All right, so listen.
Should I go first?
I think you should go first.
I have a couple things,
but I think I'm gonna do
one of the things.
You're gonna do one of the things?
Something that made sense to say.
Okay, I'm ready.
Okay, this is Matt Rogers'
I Don't Think So Honey,
and his time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey.
Churros.
Sorry, girl. Churros. Sorry, girl.
Churros.
Guess what?
You smell better than you taste, motherfucker.
How come churros, when I taste you,
I'm always mad?
Because when I smelled it,
it has that overwhelming Auntie Anne smell
where you can't walk past it and not buy it
and then I eat it and I'm a disappointed toot.
I don't think so,. Also when you're hard
you're too hard. When you're soft you're actually
too soft. There's never been a
time in the written word
or the actual history
where churro has been the right consistency
and if there has been a time
no one's writing about it honey and you
don't see it on the news because you are what?
Not actually good.
Churros, today I watched Sudi Green
by one of you at Universal Studios Hollywood
and you were $5.95.
And you might as well be damn paper.
I don't think so, honey, the price of you.
And the price of a churro I'm willing to pay?
Zero dollars, honey, because I don't think so.
And that's one of your best?
Oh my God.
I just disagree.
Sorry.
I'm actually fine.
I only go to Disneyland
to eat churros.
Well, you haven't had a turkey
like then, sweetie.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Actually, if you want to
really throw down,
we actually could
about best snacks at Disney. No, I mean, I don't want to do that. She doesn't. Don't. I don you want to really throw down we actually could about best snacks at disney
no i i mean i don't want to do that she doesn't don't i don't want to engage with you on on disney
or any theme park kind of stuff you're not you're not trying to to like spar i do want to spar
she wants to spar you know here's the thing. Have you been to Disney World?
World?
No.
Land.
I'm Land.
She's a Land girl.
Because I'm Arizona.
I'm Land.
You can make the drive.
Yeah.
Well, there's lots of great stuff.
Anyway, think about it.
Now, I got to say, Matt is kind of moving away from the World camp.
He's not as big of a fan of World as he used to be well Bowen and I recently went to Disneyland and it's just
it's so much easier
because you don't have to take a damn plane
to get from Epcot to Magic Kingdom
I know
it's crazy
I also think there's some of the like
60s charm
that's still there
antiqueness
that isn't quite
I don't know
I've never been to the land
but that's what I like about Disneyland
is the 60s charm
yeah
it's the
it's the
wow this is so small but that's what I like about Disneyland. It's the 60s charm. Yeah, it's the,
wow, this is so small and quaintness of the castle.
It's like this massive thing
where you're like,
okay, capitalism.
When I go to Disney World,
oh, yeah.
The way you just slid that in.
Contemptive.
California Adventure can eat shit.
And you kind of missed the mic and you were scared to commit to it.
No, she committed to it.
No, I was sort of sitting up straighter.
Because you're actually trying to spar is the thing.
You actually came to spar tonight.
She's sparring.
And I actually really enjoy California Adventure.
And you know who else enjoyed it?
Bowen.
I enjoyed it very much.
And Credit Coaster.
Loved.
Popped off.
All right, so actually this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey.
And the thing about his time
is it starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey,
Magician!
Don't you ever
pull shit
from behind my ear
without asking me
for permission.
I'm not gonna equate it
to like
a thing that requires consent,
but this is a thing
where everyone comes up to you.
These magicians come up to you,
have no regard for your boundaries, darling.
And they start to like,
wave their little hands and fingers
next to your hip or something,
and then knives come out.
It's so stupid.
And the TikTok magicians are the worst.
And the TikTok magicians who will take a glass of water
and cut into it, and it's revealed to be a cake.
I cannot.
15 seconds.
It's crazy, and it feels like a form of gaslighting
because it's like, no, you're distorting my sense of reality here
by really fucking up my brain.
And this is what you do.
You barter in deceit.
That's one minute.
You peddle in deceit.
It's actually rule of culture number 96.
Magicians barter in deceit.
And they knowingly do it.
They knowingly do it.
That's what's really fucked up.
For cash.
For cash.
They do it do it. They knowingly do it. That's what's really fucked up. For cash. For cash. They do it for money.
Magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money.
And it's actually real culture number 102.
Magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money.
Cash.
And it's important.
Cash money.
They actually can't, you know, it's they're fucked up because they take cash.
They take cash.
So they don't get taxed.
They're an incredibly disgusting people.
Magicians.
And you know who their king is?
Is that Neil Patrick Harris.
Really?
Dope, bitch.
He's the king of magic.
He loves magic.
Oh, God.
No, no, no.
One of the celebrities we've dragged the hardest on this podcast is Neil Patrick Harris.
Well, I don't know.
Is that true?
Yeah, we dragged him.
I don't think we have.
We dragged him because he one time tweeted during the Tony Awards at Rachel Bloom,
who is this girl they have hosting backstage?
She's not fun.
Like something like that.
And they were like, that is the Golden Globe winner, Rachel Bloom.
Yeah, that's nasty. Don't do that. You can't do that. And they were like, that is the Golden Globe with Rachel Bloom. Yeah, that's nasty.
Don't do that.
It was nice.
You can't do that.
And here's the thing.
One person who I don't think is a magician, and so we do trust her, is 80.
Oh, no.
Oh, wait.
And it's time.
Let me think here for a moment.
Okay.
Because I feel like I have zones, and I'm scared.
Take a damn time.
Okay, I'm just going to see what happens.
Just know this is not premeditated.
Let it flow, honey.
Okay.
I'm just gonna talk loudly
and we'll see what happens.
Yeah, that's what it is.
That's all it is.
Sometimes I find myself on stage
in front of a crowd
and I'm like, oh, this is happening.
And it's an I Don't Think So Honey
and often they're cuckoo.
All right, so this is Aidy Bryant's
I Don't Think So Honey
on this episode of Lascaux Dress.
This is called Beep.
Fill in later.
And our time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey diarrhea.
You've got your hands around my throat and you're killing me.
I need you to stop.
I cannot figure out what is causing you.
Is it cheese?
Is it like pepper?
I'm so scared and I don't know what to do.
And I've been to the doctors and they cannot help.
And it's not all the time.
But when you come, you come in hot and mad.
And I'm so tired.
What I wouldn't give to have a nice, solid, cock-like shit.
But instead what I get is a bag of loose sand covered in eels and slime.
Why, why, God, have you done this to me?
I am scared.
I am scared.
You are a bad element of my life, and I need you to get out, out, out, out, damn spot.
I am absolutely tired.
Five.
And I'm so, I guess, I don't think so on diarrhea.
Wow, and that's one minute.
What I wouldn't give for a cock like shit.
Let's just break down what happened there.
Well, I have a lot of questions.
First of all, we had a Shakespeare reference.
And then we had.
And Meteor Res.
Is it cheese? Is it Res. Is it cheese?
Is it pepper?
Is it cheese?
Is it pepper?
That's always what it could come down to.
Is it cheese?
Most commonly, cheese or pepper.
Right.
I thought that was a masterful...
I have to ask you a question because there was...
I want to be clear.
I'm not having diarrhea every day.
Well, you want to be solid.
And I am most of the time.
But when it comes, it comes like a fucking gun to the head.
Yes.
Can I ask you a question?
I need to ask you a question.
Yeah.
I was experiencing poop like this, that one we call diarrhea.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you why it was.
I had been over-diagnosed with antibiotics earlier in the year.
Have you been on antibiotics recently?
I've been on not a pill.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is.
And I do think it's probably just like dairy.
Yeah.
But sorry, bitch.
I'm not about to stop.
Yeah.
It's actually one of the hardest things to give up is cheese.
Honey, is it stress?
Because for me, sometimes it just comes down to stress.
Sometimes it is stress.
I do recall that as I was auditioning for SNL, it was actually liquid hell.
Oh, no.
And then you have to be thinking about that.
Yeah, and then I was like,
also, I was like,
I can only eat nuts and bananas
because anything is going to trigger this b-hole.
Oh, shit.
But then, I don't know, it goes away.
But then it just comes back
before you've even settled into the normal solid shit.
I can't draw the boundaries between,
on the dates anymore for when I poop solid
or when I poop liquid.
Wow, that's too much.
It's too much.
I gotta see someone too.
The doctors can't help me.
Well, this is the thing,
is that it's not,
it's, I don't want people to feel scared for me
and the last thing I want
is fucking strangers messaging me
being like, I can actually cure you.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't do that.
Well, that's,
I'm fine.
Unfortunately, it's more just like, while explicitly not asking for that. Yeah, I can actually cure you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Well, that's fine.
Unfortunately, while explicitly not asking for that. Yeah, I have.
Unfortunately, you've opened the floodgates.
I would also say that's maybe the worst part
of sometimes having to get your hair and makeup done
is they often are like, you know, you have rosacea
and that means you have a liver disease
and you need to get a shot every day in your eye.
And I can actually help you
if you'll follow me on Instagram and tag me.
And I'm always like, holy hell.
Have you heard of the rock diet?
Oh.
Well, I eat rocks.
It rocks.
If you get a shot every day in your eye.
You actually have to get a shot every day in your eye
that only I can administer.
And it's a really big eye-sized needle.
It looks like a hammer, but it's a needle,
and I have to come over and use it on you.
That's what it takes to be in the industry.
That's what it takes to be in the industry.
Here's the thing.
If anyone ever told me they would,
they were a producer,
I would let them spit on me.
Oh my God.
I laughed so hard my headphones fell off.
All you have to do is tell me that you're a producer,
and I won't ask if it's film, television, music.
I'll be like, do you want to come spit on me back in my apartment?
Yeah, honestly, you could come and post spit.
You could be putting your clothes back on,
because I assume you want to get naked before you spit on me.
You could tell me after, by the way, will I produce shit,
and then get out, and I'd be like, hot, honestly.
Is this a bad episode?
I'm scared. Are you kidding?
Why would you say that to me? I guess because
I just love the show and so when I listen
I'm like so happy and of course
inserting myself into it is bad
no that fucking sucks
and that's wrong. It actually sucks
and you actually insulted us
you insulted us and yourself
how dare you ask if this was bad? No, it was good.
Please tag me if you think it was good.
It would mean a lot to me.
I need validation.
She needs validation.
Can I say something, though?
Answer?
Yes.
Okay, then I'll say something.
I feel like my energy towards you coming on the podcast was like,
well, this will be one of like,
like I would assume that you, by the time this podcast wraps in like let's say 2040 we'll have like a one of those
letterman's jacket they give to drew barrymore and everyone else that's hosted five times see
now i think of myself potentially as like your amy sidaris david letterman situation like right
where i like come by and i'm like i'm not promoting anything right now. Season two has long since been out,
but I'm here to have fun with my guys.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's how I feel.
I was thinking about you as an Amy Sedaris.
It's Amy on Letterman,
and sorry to bring work into this.
I feel like-
You on Seth.
No, it's you on Seth,
and it's, just hear me out.
Okay, bitch.
It's Tom Hanks on SNL.
Wow.
It's like someone that you're just like, yes, yes, it'll be good. Just come, just. Okay, bitch. It's Tom Hanks on SNL. Wow. It's like someone that you're just like,
yes, yes, it'll be good.
Just come, just come, just come.
I guess what we're saying is that you can come back
any damn time.
Any damn time.
Well, you really have been rushing me off,
especially Doug out there.
Well, Doug actually, the thing is,
he thought he was the only one with a weapon,
and I have a very large weapon.
We're maxing out the clock at 99 minutes.
This is insane.
Yeah, but it's not like this isn't a normal...
I know, I know, I know.
But I've been getting multiple texts from Connor
being like, where are you?
We're supposed to go to dinner.
We're supposed to go to dinner?
Yeah.
Okay, we gotta get her out.
Tell Connor that relationships are not everything.
I do, every day.
Okay, this was an episode with Aidy Bryant.
Please watch Shrill. Watch SNL. Please. It sounded like you were day. Okay. This is, this was an episode with 80 Bryant. Please watch shrill.
Watch SNL.
Please.
Please.
It sounded like you were begging.
No,
please.
God.
No,
watch shrill because it's a great fucking show and it's made with love and I'm on it.
Like what?
What do you want?
What do you want?
Oh,
Vanessa bears is on it.
Also watch shrill because,
and this is gross and whatever,
but my Wikipedia says that I was on Shrill
and I'm like,
nope, you're thinking a joke and booster, bitch.
Take it off.
Oh, wow.
It's still up there.
Let's make a documentary.
This is unreal.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes.
What you don't know is that
this is the beginning of a documentary.
It is.
It's called Miss Americanos.
Yeah.
Did you guys talk about yes we did we
did she has to go to dinner she has dinner at asteria labuca asteria labuca asteria labuca
now you know where i'm going now yeah good all right so here's actually one other thing about
the podcast is we it always ends with a song Oh, one day, one night, Saturdays, all right, online, just fine, nighttime, anytime, get your degree, set your eyes up free, National American University.
That was like a remix.
Mashup.
Yeah.
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.