Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Matt, Bowen and special guest Amelia Dimoldenberg drag their hungover asses to the studio just hours after the SNL50 after party to discuss the SNL 50th anniversary special and concert! Also, Che...r, The Lonely Island, flirting styles, intentional dating vs. "playing the field", the letter "p", the number "9", the movie "Nine", and the future of Chicken Shop Date. All this, Amelia reveals where she stands with Andrew Garfield, shares the impact of Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen on her life, and gives the boys advice as first time Oscar-goers. We LOVE Amelia! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Hey man, what are you into? I have the hookup. The hookup? The hookup for what? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Poppers? Why are there so many poppers? All roads lead to... The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro?
Starting point is 00:00:44 I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to- Yeah, that's a word for it. Listen to The Hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians, people like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero and Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest Escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Y'all, what up?
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's your girl Jess Hilarious, and I think it's time to acknowledge that I'm not just a comedian. It's time to add uncertified therapists to my credentials because each and every Wednesday, I'm fixing your mess on carefully reckless on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Got problems in your relationship?
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Starting point is 00:01:57 on the Black Effect Podcast Network. IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see you. Wow. Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Wow, is that culture? Yes. Goodness. Oh, wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Okay, my brain feels like it's gonna come
Starting point is 00:02:21 out of my right eye. And you know why. We are coming at you fresh off of the SNL 50 after party. Literally, it happened, it ended not 12 hours ago. Yeah, we were technically still probably freaking buzzed. The amount of gin and tonics we had. What is my thing with gin and tonics lately? No, we were...
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like, it's 1902. We were pounding G were pounding the way. GNT's the way. Very British of us. So, apropos. Apropos. I didn't see our guest drinking gin and tonics. I don't know what our guest was drinking.
Starting point is 00:02:54 She was on another level. I saw her with the martini glass all night. Classy. Classy girl. Classy girlina. This actually is a monumental day. I have been waiting for this. Me too.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Well, I met our guest at an adinestinal after party and immediately I was like, the vibe is impeccable. The vibe is impeccable. Also instant friendship. Instant friendship. And then, so it was the three of us plus Zoe. Yeah, can we mention her by name? Zoe plus, I'm like, you really are being so compliant.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But by not speaking, please continue your behavior. This is great. And it was the four of us plus Celeste Yim, famed SNL writer. And it was the five of us being a little unit all night. And anytime y'all would leave to go get a drink at the bar, don't speak. We would all check in English,
Starting point is 00:03:42 we'd be like, I mean the Demaldenburgs. Love. Just come on, it doesn't get any better than that. Well, you know what's happened, which actually really bonds people, is we've shared a dressing room to go through glam. Yes. So I've seen our guests through glam. Oh, and that can be the most vulnerable place.
Starting point is 00:04:02 When you see someone with curlers in their hair, you see their soul. When you see a patchology gel under eye thing. I love that stuff. You wanna know why? It works. Sometimes. Huh? Sometimes the bags do be staying.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And you go, why did I put this slime on my face for 20 minutes? I'm like, Amanda, anything? Okay. Can I tell you something? No one looks more like shit right now than me. Than me. I am horrified.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And when I look at the lights, I think, I know that's not right. I get the NR. Because this is gonna make me look like the Crypt Keeper's ugly cousin, who isn't even on camera. The thing about the Crypt Keeper, he still is telegenic.
Starting point is 00:04:45 He's telegenic and he has, but he's the most presentable of his family. I'm going to say one thing that happened last night and this truly happened. There's so many things that happened. There's so many things that happened, but I'm going to say one thing, because I don't know how much to reveal. There's a lot of light and a lot of darkness to reveal. We were talking about like these ugly Crypt Keeper types, and then I was thinking, wow, how many gorgeous people did we see?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Guess who I feel my butt bump against their butt. Bumping that. And I turn around. Who is it? Al Franken. No, that would be the funny way to go about it. Yeah, yeah. But this is the on-the-nose thing. My butt touched Kim Kardashian's butt.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That is so... Our butts hit, and I turned around and I said, oh, that's Kim K. Y'all were Eric Stone Street and... Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Not Jesse Tyler Ferguson, the dad in Modern Family. Oh, at O'Neill? At O'Neill.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Remember there was that Modern Family episode where they did like a moon landing? I really did know you were like a scholar of Modern Family. They touched butts in the men's locker room. Right, right, and they touched naked butts. Are you Eric Stone Street or are you at O'Neill? We were both clothed. Honestly, who has the bigger butt?
Starting point is 00:05:51 You. Ed? You think me? Between you and Kim? Kim's butt is bigger. Get out the measuring stick. Get out the measuring stick. We gotta move on.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's time to bring in our guest who, speaking of pop culture, and when you say Kim K, you say pop culture, has truly, I don't know how to say this, perfected the form of the interview. Perfected the form of the interview. You break chicken out, you bring smiles out. Perfected the art of the edit.
Starting point is 00:06:18 This is Sean Baker found dead. This is the new editrix queen of Hollywood. I would like to see Anora too. I would like to see our guest in the edit room for Sean Baker's next film. Can I pitch this? Yes. Anora 2 colon Amelia.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Gag! Title of ep. Anora 2 colon Amelia. It's time. This, she hosts Chicken Chop Date, the iconic Chicken Chop Date. She is now a fixture and a welcome presence at any red carpet event, which is almost always more stress than it's worth
Starting point is 00:06:53 until you see our guest. Was killing the carpet last night. Killing the carpet last night with my girl, Matt Rogers. We were sort of, the glam bot was in between us. Sometimes. We'll talk about the glam bot. We'll talk about the glam bot. But she, for the second year in a row,
Starting point is 00:07:05 will be a correspondent at the red carpet at the Oscars. Can I talk now? Yeah. Hold on, hold on. Everyone welcome, Amanda Baldemar! Oh my God, such a pleasure to be here. Long time no see, guys. It must have been about two hours.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Two hours. Were you at one through ten on brain needs to come out of your eye? Yeah, I might, I'm dry, my mouth is dry. Yeah. My mouth is dry, my head is, but I just walked here from my hotel and it really put the life back in my soul. Oh yeah. You need the cold to hit you sometimes for that to happen.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Is this jaywalking illegal still? I don't think it matters. Well, how does the wind chill in New York compare to the wind chill in London? Oh, it's so much windier here. Yeah. Wind is… The wind is stronger. More powerful. Really?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Oh, 100%. Because it whips around those big buildings. It's the buildings are so big and they create the wind to be bigger. Right. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Are you like… You come here and you're like,
Starting point is 00:07:59 okay, I can't wait to get back? Well, to New York. No, to London. Oh, no, I love New York. Yeah, okay, good. Yeah. But like, I just… I don't know if I could ever wait to get back. What? To New York? No, to London. Oh, no. I love New York. Yeah, okay, good. Yeah. But like, I just… I don't know if I could ever live here full-time. Well, we would like that.
Starting point is 00:08:10 It's so full-on. How are we going to maintain a friendship? No, I know, I know. There is only one option that I do need to move. That's the only option? That's the only… You can't really have a long-distance friendship, really. Because we're not coming to London all that much. Why not?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Well, you're right. I actually have to say, I think we should go more. I think we should go more. I need to get back on… I need to recalibrate my London experience because for a while it was… Because you're filming for Wicked. And it was… It's one of the great cities of the world throughout history.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Throughout history, yeah. I do still associate with… Oh God, I'm leaning at Heathrow. Oh no, God, I'm getting stressed out and I have to like figure out the rest of my week. And it was like, for a while it was the sight of my darkest moments. We shot the movies for a year total. Oh my God, there's two of them.
Starting point is 00:08:54 There's two of them. Just wait till next, wow, it's this year. Just wait till a few months. Just wait till this year. Just wait. Just wait. It's coming up this year. It's coming.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You'll be changed for good. And that's just what I hear. No, you're right. No, we need to come to London more. Where are you? You're a Marlabone girl. You grew up there. Yeah, I grew up in Marlabone,
Starting point is 00:09:11 but now I live in East London. Oh, wait, in Hackney. Yeah, in Hackney. Oh! Are you like a neighborhood fixture? I guess. You're in the pubs and the coffee shops. Oh, I love the pub.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm in the pub like nonstop. That's why, when I'm in America, that's what I crave. I crave the pub so much. I'm like, I need to go back into the pub. You want a pie? I don't want a pie. But I do want the pub. You want the pub?
Starting point is 00:09:33 I want a cider. Yeah. Do you want a cider? I actually do. I'm a hot toddy sort of fanatic. Oh my God, love a hot alcoholic beverage. 100%. Why don't they do mulled wine all year?
Starting point is 00:09:43 That's what I'm talking about. This is a huge question. I will always say, I do get a little nervous about asking a bartender to do that just because me being former industry, I do know it's steps involved in creating the hot beverage. What like boiling it? Making it hot.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Sort of, I mean, it's like certainly there might be an area where there's already hot water, but it's just, there's the cloves. It's a dangerous cloves. There's the stick of cinnamon. There is the lemon. There is the, oftentimes you have to put the cloves in the lemon if people take themselves very seriously. Oh. It says an art to it.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Certainly. This preparation, there's art, there's et cetera. Right. But like, it's worth it when you get to the end of the rainbow. Now, what if in theory you fall in love with someone here? That's an interesting thought, actually, which I haven't been thinking about. Um, then I would just, I would just have to get to travel more.
Starting point is 00:10:34 She loves her life where she is. I know. I'm just putting some hypotheticals out there. We need to come more to you. I think we should stop trying to give in to you to move here, because let's be honest. I would like to come here more, to be fair. I feel like I could come once a month. You're invited.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Well, you know, we need, that's why we need to do more award shows. We need to do more award shows. We understand how to get you here. Well, you have your own awards. Yeah. Yes, it's true. Do you want to be nominated? You actually should.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh my God. I feel like that's for some reason, I'm going to say beneath you. Yeah, I was going to say you need a bigger role at the Culture Awards. No, it's only beneath you at our show. At our show, you know what I mean? In every other capacity, it's like,
Starting point is 00:11:11 well, there's no one better. But for us, it's like, you got to be on, you got to be in the full thing. Do you love award shows in general? I think so. Yeah, same. I've always loved them, like growing up watching them, like I love them. It's such. I've always loved them. Growing up watching them, I love them.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's such a gag to go to them now. Like, whenever, like, Bowen is nominated for almost every award. And so, but we get to go to a lot of stuff. We're very lucky we get to go to stuff. And it is like, it's wild when you are in the midst of it. Because it's like, there everyone is. Yes, and you get to meet so many people.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Like, so many people that you're a fan of their work and you get to meet them and like talk to them and ah! And it's love it and then it's so exciting who's gonna win. Yeah. Do you get nervous still with the celebrity of it all? Have you now sort of reached a point where you've kind of met the biggest and so it's now less daunting and they know who you are? I don't really get nervous to meet celebrities.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I feel like that's why I've like enjoyed this job or maybe I'm good at it because I don't really feel like I get starstruck that much. But I do, I feel confident in the room because I know I'm there for, I've got my job. I'm there for a purpose. I find it difficult when I go to events where I'm not working.
Starting point is 00:12:24 100%. Because then I'm like, oh, God, I feel, that's when I feel like a bit more overwhelmed by it all. Right. Yeah. Like give me a job of purpose. Yeah, like for example, last night, I was like, oh, okay, well, I'm here. I'm doing the carpet. Like I've got my SNL credentials. Like this is incredible. I feel like I should be here.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Whereas I think if I wasn't doing that, I'd be like, what, why have I, what's happening? And then also like, I wouldn't have been invited. But anyway, yeah, that kind of makes me feel a bit more confident. But no, like I really do like meeting celebrities. Well, what was the overall bounce on last night? Yeah, what was the bounce?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Incredible. Like just like, and the after party. Oh my God night. What was the... What was the... In the credible, like just like, ugh. And the after party. Oh my God, the venue was ginormous. Sabrina Carpenter going up there and saying, like a virgin. And then Haim doing Mustang Sally. Like truly it was one of those,
Starting point is 00:13:15 cause they're not always like that. In fact, they're almost never like that. No, they're never like that. You think in your head, the SNL after parties are going to be like that. And then it's like, you get an event like this and people were really going. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It was amazing and it was ginormous. And every single person there was like legendary. It was, and everyone was like laying loose and oh, it was just amazing. And it went on so late, it went on until like five in the morning. We were there. And then there we were.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And we had stayed. And we had stayed, but I will say, I mean, like, we were saying that we were getting starstruck for the first time in a long time. Just like, because it was everywhere you turned, there was just someone like, wow, wow, wow. I met Andy Samberg. Isn't that a great moment when that happened? I was actually really starstruck. I was like, you are the godfather of like viral comedy.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Of you too. Yeah. And I'm like, you are the godfather of like viral comedy. And I'm like, wow, an honor to be in your presence. Were you like a Lonely Island fan? Yes. I was a huge Lonely Island fan. I just don't... I feel like when... Every time they released a song, it was like there was nothing else in the world that was there.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It was only them. You know? I'll still listen to I'm On A Boat. Yes. T-Pain. Oh my God. I love him. Have you ever listened to his Tiny Desk? Actually, I think still listen to I'm On A Boat. Yes. T-Pain. Oh my God. I love him. Have you ever listened to his Tiny Desk?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Actually, I think I did. It's one of the best ones ever. Excellent. Like, no auto-tune. Like, he has the best voice ever and it's just sublime. And it was a while ago too. It was ages ago. It was like before it was like a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:37 It was before Tiny Desk was Tiny Desk. Right. Yeah. I mean, okay, this is the thing. Lonely Island only won tour right before COVID. And then COVID hit, I think. But it's day two at all. And it's like, I think we need to put the energy out there
Starting point is 00:14:48 that they need to go back on tour. Cause it's like they- That would be so fun. Right, cause they were saying like, it's so interesting like to hear our songs being sung by a crowd. Cause that was never the experience, that was never why we put it out.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It was only for in service to like a comedy bit or a sketch. Like it is a surreal thing to like do it in front of an audience. And I think they should, I wouldn't, we all encourage them to do it. That would be so fun because they could also do bits, like they could do sketches and stuff. Of course. Like with it, like they could do the music, it could be a whole comedy music extravaganza.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah, it could be like what the concert on Friday felt like. Yeah. Which I loved because it was so in the spirit of SNL. Like I loved Ana Gasteyer coming out as Martha Stewart to introduce Snoop. You know what I mean? Like I loved the like Bobby and Marty like thrown in there. Like you know, it just, it felt... And then by the way, just you were in the same row as me.
Starting point is 00:15:39 We had an iconic row. We really had just the weekend together. We did! We were bonded immediately. Every day I've seen you. I also think one of the reasons, well as you know, that he's so talented as a musician, they all are. And that's why it works. That's why the comedy works is because they're actually so talented musicians.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And that's something you realize when, on Friday as well, how beautiful everyone's voices are. And how everyone's basically a musician in their own right. But just study, like I, so we shot this thing for the show on Sunday, but we shot it on Wednesday and just like between takes, we were just talking, chatting it up. And I was just like, I just innocently asked him,
Starting point is 00:16:16 I was like, what are you listening to lately? And then he like pauses and then like unfurls all these things. He's like, well, there's this Donnie and guy who like does a lot of big band music. And then there's Cindy Lee, this like drag artist who like has a rock band and she released like a two hour album that's like only available on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And like that's been like, like, and he just has such an expansive, and like he knows all of his history back to like the eighties and nineties of like hip hop and like jazz and like funk and like he's just- A genius. Well that's why he and Joanna knew some work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 They're like, those are music heads. Those are music heads. That's so cool. I mean, I saw him last night and I was just like, again, the hook slapped. The hook in that digital short that you were in. And that was really fun. It was so great.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It was just like, I was like, get damn. I think that was so much more formative, comedically, on like our generation. Absolutely. That anyone realizes. That all of Lonely Island's... You got to tell him that he's the godfather of like viral comedy. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm sure he was very happy to hear that. Yeah, it was really amazing. We went upstairs. And I'm going to say this, and I know he's listening. That is one of the true beauties hunks of time. Because you're always like, yeah, I have a crush on Andy Samberg. And then you see him and you're like,
Starting point is 00:17:28 I have a crush on Andy Samberg. That face. The bone structure. You know, I remember like just when he came out with his floppy hair, there's something about a goofy guy. Oh God, they're the best. Do you like funny guys? Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:17:41 No, I like unfunny guys. Yeah, I like funny guys, but they're hard to find. I just mean like, is it, oh, so it's not a rap if they're not funny. I think they have to make me laugh, but I also want them to laugh at my jokes and maybe that's more important to me that they're laughing at me.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah. But then there's an implied self-made funniness in them that has to like be present for them to laugh at your jokes, you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. I do think I need a man with a sense of humor, 100%. I feel like that's how I connect with anyone is over a shared sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But sometimes on your show, you are doing the legwork of like, I'm gonna like really guide this in a funny direction. And like my guest is someone who like is going to have to just follow along with me. But I think my favorite interview of yours is with Cher. That was one of my favorite interviews because what I will never forget is you asking her, what does it feel like to be an icon? And she goes, it doesn't feel like anything. So profound.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It doesn't feel like anything. And it was incredible. She just has the most amazing lines to feed you back. Like, she's just so great and so quick-witted, so confident. Like, she was kind of the perfect guest. What was that day like? It was like, did you have the full, like, hour with her? Yeah, the full hour, but we shot that in Paris.
Starting point is 00:18:59 It's the only episode I've ever filmed, like, in, out of the UK. I filmed one in Scotland. But yeah, for Cher I had to. And so we found a chicken shop in Paris. And yeah, we were there and then she was kind of... She was a little bit late, but that was totally fine. I would have waited hours and hours. But then I was like... So I was then like pacing around in the chicken shop
Starting point is 00:19:18 because usually like I get there like half an hour before I like go over my questions and then they're here. And then because I was like waiting it was like, oh my god, it's Cher. And then there were these two guys who were like Hanging outside and I was like to the security I was like, can you tell those guys to like go away? Like they I don't know why they're here and like we got them to like move and then when Cher came in the guys came in With Cher and they were her like nephew It was her posse who had told her to do the show.
Starting point is 00:19:46 The guys were like, the reason she's here is because we were like, you should do the show. And five minutes later I was like, those crepes off the chicken shop date stuff. But anyway, yeah. Yeah, because she had never watched the show. And they had basically were like,
Starting point is 00:20:01 she only did one piece of promo, I think, for like her Christmas album that. And then she did chicken shop date. And they were like, you have to do it. And she just sat down and she were like, she only did one piece of promo, I think, for like her Christmas album. And then she did Chicken Shop Day. And they were like, you have to do it. And she just sat down and she was like, okay, cool. What's happening? And I was like, she just didn't really... I don't...
Starting point is 00:20:13 She was perfect. Did she eat a lot of chicken? I don't think she ate, no. Do guests... No, but she said she does like chicken nuggets. Or she said her boyfriend loves chicken nuggets. Right. She said she's been around a lot of chicken nuggets recently. I would imagine recently. Yeah, she was like, I've been around a lot of chicken nuggets. Or she said her boyfriend loves chicken nuggets. Right. She said she's been around a lot of chicken nuggets recently.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I would imagine like recently. Yeah, she was like, I've been around a lot of chicken nuggets. And my boyfriend and his friends love chicken nuggets. Maybe there was some sort of festival where she lives. A chicken nugget festival. Chicken nugget festival in Paris. That's probably the only option, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:37 But yeah, she's amazing. I think she was there on Friday. She should have done more than one song. I was like waiting for more songs to come. 100 percent. She walked by me at my station and she wasn't doing any interviews, I don't think. Did you get her? No, I didn't get her.
Starting point is 00:20:50 So, because I don't think she was doing any, she walked by and all I could think to say was, crushed it Friday. And she goes, she's going to give me a little nod. Good one, crushed it. Crushed it. As per usual, Cher. Yeah, I love Cher.
Starting point is 00:21:06 What an icon. My only interaction with her on Friday, backstage at the concert, because I was back there getting ready to intro Gaga. Because you were... And then Cher was up before me. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy at Radio City.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Cher was on just before me. Just before me, but she was just as far away from me as like that camera is. And I'm like not, I can see her, I can sense her presence. She's there. I'm like truly collapsing into myself. Like, God, I fucking love this person. And she is like, you know, kind of just like in her space,
Starting point is 00:21:41 getting in her zone, like people are surrounding her, like her team is surrounding her. And I'm trying not to look at her, but then I just glance up, and then she's looking back at me, and she smiles and just waves, like the sexiest, most subtle little wave. Mm. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And it like hit me like a lightning bolt. Yep. And then in that moment, I was like, I know what I would say to Sharon, but I'm not gonna say it, and I kind of am glad I didn't, but I kind of regret that I didn't either. This is what it would be. You're funnier than any comedian.
Starting point is 00:22:09 You're more beautiful than any supermodel. And you are more influential than any religious figure. I love you. And she would have said, I know, bitch. BOTH LAUGH Like, that's Cher! That's Cher, bitch. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Unbelievable. It's so great that we got to see so many, all right, let's talk about Highlights from the concert. Yeah. ["Highlights from the Concert"] We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists,
Starting point is 00:22:44 especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How? Goes lower? I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre.
Starting point is 00:23:13 The guy just disappeared one day. Santi has been missing ever since. The hookup. What is that? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro?
Starting point is 00:23:31 I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f- Yeah that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry. Poppers? These aren't just any poppers. Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex. No, my psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either. Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:25:23 like Bad Touch Football, Anti-Racism Spin Class and mandatory Ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the cancel to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancelation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So like, this was another amazing moment for me yesterday. I stopped down with someone and then I turned to my left and it's Bonnie Raitt. And I was like, oh my God. And she looks up and she was like, I don't know. Do you want to interview me? I was like, what? And then she was so like humble.
Starting point is 00:26:15 She was like, they're probably not going to air it. I was like, Bonnie Raitt, get over here right now. And then we just like had this like beautiful moment because one of my favorite moments of that whole night was I Can't Make You Love Me. I said, do you know, this is one of those songs where many people say it's their favorite song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 You know whose favorite song is? Who? Cher's. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was listening to her Desert Island Discs. Do you know that show? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 In the UK and she picked that as one of her favorite songs. I get it. She'd sound good on it too. Yeah, Sher would do an amazing rendition of that. Yes. I feel the power. And I feel the power. So, so beautiful and so sad and like that's why it's so perfect, like such a perfect song. And Chris Martin was there.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Chris Martin was on the keys. Who by the way is so funny. So funny. And so charming and amazing. You talked to him on the show. No, I know he's not been on the show, but I met him at the SNL after party. That I, where I first met you at. He was there, cause he was the performer that week.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And I was just like, wow, I don't know why I just didn't think he would be so charming, but he just so was and charismatic and brilliant. So charismatic and brilliant. But he was, we were at the Seaford restaurant and he's at his table, eating out of a Tupperware, like veggies and tofu. Meal prepped.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's the Gwyneth influence. It's like, this is a health nut. He really is. Wow. And he looks good. He looks good, yeah. That was one of my favorite moments. I mean, like, we were all so right. Right there. In front of Post Malone singing with Nirvana. That was epic. my favorite moments. I mean, like, we were also right in front of Post Malone
Starting point is 00:27:46 singing with Nirvana. That was epic. That was crazy. When he was smoking a cigarette, and then he put a cigarette in his guitar. I didn't miss that either. That was incredible. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Sort of effortless. Something happened to me in that moment. And also, you know, he's really found, he's a tight jeans king, and he's bringing it back. He's so tall. He's tall. Way taller than you think. Like, he's like six, he's a tight jeans king and he's bringing it back. He's so tall. He's tall. Way taller than you think. Like he's like six foot three or something.
Starting point is 00:28:09 What do you think it is about people that makes them seem like they're gonna be short? I don't know. Like, is it their like proportions of their like head? Yeah, maybe that. Or their, I don't know. Well, he's very broad-shouldered. He just doesn't look like he's really tall.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But he is. But he is. But he is. That's a fact right there. I would like to go on a date with him. So would I. So would I. You should get him on your show. I am trying.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You are. Who are the White Whales? And then I want to hear your SNL 50 concert highlights, but who are the White Whales? Who are the people that you were like to like? White Whales. Never heard of that phrase before. Like Moby Dick.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Who are the White Whales? Who are the people? Who are the White Whales? There's before. Like Moby Dick, who is like- Who are the white whales? Who are the people? Who are the white whales? There's a book called Moby Dick. I didn't read it. Well, that was your first mistake. Sorry. It's really culture number eight.
Starting point is 00:28:54 If you haven't read Moby Dick, that was your first mistake. I hear it's an amazing book. I've never read it before. Oh, it's fabulous. It's just thrilling. It's really a thriller. It's a thrill.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Okay, it's a page turner. But it's really about so much It's a thrill. It's a page turner. But it's really about so much more than well. And that's all I'll say about that. It's a symbol. So who's my Moby? Who is your- Who's my Moby Dick? Who's your Moby Dick?
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, who's your Moby Dick? Moby, the singer. Gaga. Yeah, she would do it. Would she? She would absolutely do it. Africa dance. It's just that. How did you feel when you...
Starting point is 00:29:29 I don't know. Well, I saw her last night, but obviously I didn't go up to her because what would I say? Nothing. And yeah, I think Gaga would be epic. I don't know. Maybe someone like Larry David. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Oh my God. Well, so many people that I met last night. Like, Kristen Wiig is one of my comedy heroes. And it was just a thrill to be able to speak to her and to have her on the show. And I would love to have some more comics on, actually. But I actually feel with Chicken Shop Day, I'm at a place with it where I feel like I've kind of achieved everything I want to with the show.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I feel really content. Like, everything, everyone now is just like a plus, really. Wow, I mean, I feel really content. Like everything, everyone now is like just like a plus really. Wow. I mean, that's really great. That's an amazing feeling that you are assured in that you're like, this is great. Like we did everything that we wanted to. I really feel like that. Like I feel like there's so many amazing, like so many episodes.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I'm like so, so pleased with like how, just how they've come out and like just the energy of them and like the type of people that I've got to me and our dynamic like I just feel like I've got what I need to from the show. But yeah, but so everything now is just like it's just fun. It's always been fun. How long have you felt like that? Was there an episode that like put you over the edge? Well, for me, like the Louis Theroux episode was like a really amazing one because he he was like, for me, one of my heroes growing up. Like I loved his documentaries so much. And like his tone and his style like really kind of informed some of my awkwardness too.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And like my style. And like when I was trying to get him on the show for years, and then he basically was like, they never got through to him or something like that. Oh, he said no. And then finally, again, his children then told him to come on the show. Which is the way it goes a lot of the time. And then that episode was just amazing. And then it kind of birthed this viral jiggle jiggle like song on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And I just thought it just had everything in it that I wanted for the episode and like to get someone that I've always wanted to. And then from then I was like, okay, well, I've done what I want to. But actually, no, I do always wanted to. And then from then I was like, okay, well I've done what I want to with this show. But actually, no, I do actually need to keep going with the show because I need to fall in love. So when you're sitting down, are you actually feeling like there's a little part of you that's like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 because you always, you do do the bit of, this is a date. This is a date. But I don't see why like I couldn't meet someone on the show. No, you absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. But obviously there are loads of cameras there and stuff and people.
Starting point is 00:31:46 But I mean, this was part of the Andrew Garfield of it all that I wanted to ask you about, which is what did you feel about like all of the attention around it? Right. Oh, well, and I was in LA at the time and it was like fun to like be also in, like I don't know, like not in London
Starting point is 00:32:01 and like be out and about and stuff. But it was kind of amazing. Like I just thought it was so cool that people were like... People were booking meeting rooms in their offices to like watch it. Like to so that they could all watch it together. It was wild. And like that was so amazing to have created that kind of... That moment like with a YouTube show, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Like people were like, it's an event. Yeah, so that's what I loved so much about that episode in particular about what it kind of made people feel or the energy and like, yeah, that's what I just think. It's just so fun to be able to create like create those kinds of moments, yeah. So let's say, let's work backwards from you fall in love with someone that you meet on the show.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah. It's presumably someone who is a guest. Yeah. Could be a crew member. No. An assistant? No. One of the guys, one of Cher's nephews. No.
Starting point is 00:32:53 They're all gay. Right, right, right. Gay nephews. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. So, you fall in love with a guest. Yeah. It's like, you check in after you shoot the thing, right? Because it's like, is there a part of you that's like, when the cameras are rolling, it's like, you check in after you shoot the thing, right? Because it's like, is there a part of you that's like,
Starting point is 00:33:07 when the cameras are rolling, it's like for entertainment, for the show, but then afterwards, you're like, I need to be one-on-one with this person. Okay, this is why it's just never going to work out. No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying it can and it will. We just have to be really intentional about this. Are you going, you're like, you don't,
Starting point is 00:33:26 you're like, fuck these cameras, I'm going to seduce this person. No, because I would never do that. So actually it's not going to work. Well, I was meaning to ask you, I was like, Amelia, how do you, you do have this natural, and Cynthia Rivo said this, like you have this natural capacity and this talent.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I call it a talent because I lack this, of flirting. You flirt very well. Yes, I do actually. So then what's that about? So that it can happen. No, yeah, it can, but I go for the wrong people. I go for the wrong people. Oh, in life you go for the wrong people.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Do you find that like, this style of flirting that you do on the show, because you are a little bit of like, you do nagging. Like, is that how you flirt in real life? Yeah, totally. Okay. So you're not like emboldened by the cameras to like be a little bit like this character?
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, no, no. That's just my vibe. That's just who you are. Yeah, cause I don't know why I always just think that like when I'm talking to guys, I'm always like, I'm funnier than you. No, it's power. It's power.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So I'm gonna tell you. But because when it's true. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like that's just been my natural way. But I also think maybe it's something about being British and maybe like, I don't know, like from school or like the guys I used to hang out with when I was growing up who would be like so mean to you.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like you then just have to like create this armor of like sarcasm. Like then they just kind of stayed with me. Right. Well, let's say there's been a recent example of you flirting with someone and successfully having it, you know, be a fun thing. Let's walk through that. Let's break a recent example down. Any recent example. Of me flirting with someone.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And then we can all do the same. Because I actually do want to self-examine a bit on this. About flirts? Flirt style? I identify as not a good flirter, but I think the three of us have successfully courted someone. Yeah. I feel like you can tell when there's a chemistry, I feel like kind of immediately with someone.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. And so it is like a roll of the dice. Yeah. Like I think just like you meet someone, you kind of, I don't know, you just can sense it really from, it's like an energy. I think you just kind of know. Yeah. So once you sense it, you're like, okay, I'm in. Let's just, it, really. It's like an energy, I think. You just kind of know.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So once you sense it, you're like, okay, I'm in, let's just... Yeah. Okay, great. You're a pursuer at that point? Well, I don't know. I feel like when you meet people out, it's kind of hard to meet people out.
Starting point is 00:35:35 But when you do, I think you just kind of like gravitate toward each other, and then you just start talking. And then in your head while you're talking, you can like sense, you're like, okay. Something like clicks, I feel like you feel it. And you're like, are we, is this, is this, are we, is are we like flirting?
Starting point is 00:35:49 And then they're like, yeah, I'm married. So that's what happens. See, this is the problem. That's literally every time. I know. But the thing is like with the gays, it's like, this has happened to me a couple times in the past few weeks.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I'll get asked on a full- on date and then I'll find out like either hours before or on the date that they fully have a boyfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what you're saying. Are you dealing with open guys sometimes? No. No, so I'm saying it's like a gay guy thing.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Where they're already in a relationship and they're open. You have to tell someone if you're in a relationship and you're asking to hang out. People like to flirt. People are bored and they like to flirt in their relationships. I know so many people. And also, like, is that about... I don't know if that's about...
Starting point is 00:36:30 You can obviously still flirt when you're in a relationship. Sure. But like there's another... Like leading someone on is like... I mean flirting and then asking them full on out. Oh yeah, going on a date, yeah. Like I had someone one time tell me in the middle of things after it was going really well.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I don't know how this is going to land, but I have a boyfriend. And I was well, I don't know how this is gonna land, but I have a boyfriend. And I was like, you don't know how this is gonna land. I was like, cause if this was a sex thing, you had to say that beforehand, cause there's things I had to do. You know what I mean? Like I had to make sure everything was deforested. Of course.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like there's things that need to go on, there's process. You needed to weed whack. A lack of respect for process. You lost me. You lost me there. If you have a lack of respect for process, that's rule of culture number 19. If you have a lack of respect for process, you lost me. I was talking to a guy, same deal, but I knew going into it that he was married and whatever, we were maybe planning the logistics of it. And then I just made an offhand comment where I was like, and also, I don't know, like,
Starting point is 00:37:25 I might just be emotionally like in a different place than you because there are just different stakes to this. He was like, what do you mean? What do you mean, what do you mean? And he was being obtuse and I was like, you know, like you are in a relationship and I am like, not, I'm literally putting this in the calendar because this is like the one window this week
Starting point is 00:37:43 where I can have relations with someone. And he was like, I need you to explain this a little bit more. I'm like, this, what are you talking about? Like some of these guys play dumb with it. But this is what I want to drill into is because you're mentioning this moment of like,
Starting point is 00:37:58 are we, is this, are we? Like that's the thing that is the blockage usually where it's like, it's not cool to ask, are we, is this, are we out loud? I think it is. I've, sometimes I have said, I was like, should we kiss? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Should we kiss now? And do you? No, I feel like that's where I'm going wrong. Well, this is my thing. Don't do that, don't do that, it doesn't work. Are we saying here as a trio, like if you have to ask, then it's a bad sign? Sometimes't do that. Don't do that. It doesn't work. Are we saying here as a trio, like, if you have to ask, then it's a bad sign?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Sometimes I do, though. Like, sometimes you just kind of have to, like, say it, because really you kind of have to be the confident one. Of course. And that's the thing is it's like, I think for me, it reflects entirely on how I'm feeling about myself in a moment. Like, if I'm feeling good about myself in a good mood, I genuinely think I'll go up to anyone and, like, flirt with them. But that makes you feel alive. I'm feeling good about myself in a good mood, I genuinely think I'll go up to anyone
Starting point is 00:38:45 and like flirt with them. But- Flirting makes you feel alive. I'm sorry. You could have like, like if you're flirting, it just makes you, you're just having a better time than if you weren't. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Like it's so fun. But if you're not feeling good about yourself though, I think any situation I'm in where like, I can feel like that's going somewhere, I go right to like fear. I'm like, no, no, no, I can't, I shrink. And it's just so, I wish I felt powerful all the time. You can't.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It's like, I don't know. You just can't. London summers, should we do Mighty Hoopla with you? Would you come to Mighty Hoopla with us? Are you going? We went a couple years ago. We had fun, I've never been. It would be, you would be mobbed.
Starting point is 00:39:24 It would be, it looks, you would be mobbed. It would be, it looks so fun. It was a blast. Yeah. Oh God, that's so fun. Yeah, who did you see? We missed Kelly Rowland. We missed Kelly Rowland.
Starting point is 00:39:32 They always have such fun performers. Yes. Yeah. We saw- Kelly Rowland? Kelly Rowland, we saw Jake Shears. Jake Shears. Fun.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Who we love. Saw- Does Kelly Rowland do one love take? Oh, you know she does. Oh my gosh. Yes! She's got so many more gay anthems than you're ready for.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Such a good one. She's really great. But she was on the Friday and that was when we saw Beyonce. So we were there. Beyonce was at My Teabler. No, no, no, Beyonce was in London doing Tottenham the same weekend as Mighty Hoopla.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Renaissance is the same weekend as Mighty Hoopla. And Kelly was doing Mighty Hoopla. So there was just all these rumors being like, Kelly's going to show up to Renaissance or Beyonce is going to show up to Mighty Hoopla, which was less likely. That would have been iconic. Would be iconic.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Mighty Hoopla. That was me as Beyonce greeting that. Mighty Hoopla. What's that park in South London that it's at? Brockwell Park. Brockwell. Is it? I don't know. It's fun down there. Yeah, South London. I never go.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I never go, but it's like, it's where all the cool people are. No, it is. That's why I'm never there. Yeah, no. Like London in summer is the best. I think it's like the best time to come to London is in summer. Well, now I guess Beyonce, it would be nice to go see Beyonce again.
Starting point is 00:40:39 That honestly was medicine for the soul. 100%. Seeing Beyonce, like I was feeling in like a really rubbish head space and I was like, I felt I was feeling so self-conscious about the way I looked and all this stuff and then I went to the Renaissance and I was just like, wow, it really like was a drug. It was like a pill, a medicine for me. Yeah, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:57 You were at the party. It was, yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, exactly. Let's ask Amelia the question. Yeah, exactly. Let's ask Amelia the question. [♪ music playing on the radio and on the phone. [♪ music playing on the radio and on the phone. [♪ music playing on the radio and on the phone.
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Starting point is 00:41:25 More of you dating with intention, because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year, and find them on Bumble. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Ow, goes lower? I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre. The guy just disappeared one day. Santi has been missing ever since. The hookup.
Starting point is 00:41:53 What is that? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup? You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f- Yeah, that's a word for it.
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Starting point is 00:42:38 Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week, I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time.
Starting point is 00:43:03 People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Zoe Chao. Titanic. Charles Manson. Alcatraz. Asada Shakur. The sketchy guy named Steve. It's giving funny true crime.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest Escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is John Cameron Mitchell, and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation Island, stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently cancelled.
Starting point is 00:43:45 In the future, we will all be cancelled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like Bad Touch Football, Anti-Racism Spin Class, and mandatory Ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the cancel to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us?
Starting point is 00:44:16 Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amelia DeMaldeburg, what is the culture that music is a culture is for me? Mary Kay and Ashley Olsen. Wow. Have we ever had anyone do that? I was wondering if you have. I don't think so. But this is huge. What's their greatest work in your opinion?
Starting point is 00:44:46 Oh, wow. Okay. Well, what movie? Oh, God. I mean, we have to say a movie. New York Minute. No, no, no. Oh, my God. Underrated, though. New York Minute, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Holiday and the Sun. Yes. With Megan Fox. Sorry. With Megan Fox. Yeah. I mean, Winning London. I mean, I love London. Obviously, I'm, I love, obviously I'm a London girl, but maybe winning London wasn't my fave. Our Lips Are Sealed, the one where they're in Australia.
Starting point is 00:45:12 The Challenge, do you remember that one? I don't know The Challenge. The Challenge was when they did The Challenge. Sorry, it was like, you know, They showed The Challenge. They showed The Challenge. The only way I've ever watched The Challenge is on the American Ashi, The Challenge.
Starting point is 00:45:24 The Olsen twins did the challenge? Well, they did like a movie where they were on the challenge. I am, is the MTV show, is there a British show called the challenge? No, it's like they're like, I assume this is the show. It's like you're in a pair and you have to do loads of challenges. Oh, like an Amazing Race kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, maybe. What was the sleepover series again? The sleepover series. Oh, yeah. You're invited. You're invited. You're invited. I don't know that one.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Oh, You're Invited. That was Tom. Was that TV series? I don't know what it was. I mean, you haven't even said- Oh, they also had an animation. Yeah, they had everything. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You haven't said Passport to Paris. Passport to Paris! Yeah. Oh, Passport to Paris! Passport to Paris was huge for them, I think. Yeah. Just like so epic. Like, I'm sorry, but just,
Starting point is 00:46:08 I just wanted to live their life so badly. I feel like so much of like, why I feel like I'm such an overachiever is because I grew up on Mary Kay and Ashley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were like the biggest overachievers in the world. Like there was nothing that they couldn't do. People forget, there was two of them.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So they split their empire. They both had, you know what I mean? It's true, but still like, still they like did the work. I mean, absolutely. No one can say they didn't. And they still are. Okay, this is the thing that's crazy. They are the coolest girls still.
Starting point is 00:46:34 They are always pushing culture forward still with The Row. And just- Do you own The Row pieces? No. They're about a million dollars each. Are they? Aren't they expensive? But they last and they're good quality.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Bo has the row. You do? Okay, yeah. I mean, everyone loves the row. Bo has the row. Like, people like, really cool people wear the row. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah, and they're just, they're just like little tiny little chain smokers. They're just so cool. The one of them, I forget which one it was. It might've been Mary-Kate or Ashley. At the wedding, at the wedding? They had a wedding, their wedding had a bulls of cigarettes on every table.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah, so she said yes. Famously. Yeah, I'm always trying to think though, who am I more like, Mary-Kate or Ashley? Like, I just remember. You're both. What is the distinction though? Can you break down Mary-Kate and Ashley?
Starting point is 00:47:14 I don't know, because they would always change characters in their movies. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, sometimes Mary-Kate would be like the uptight one, and then sometimes it would be Ashley, and you could like never really know. They would just always.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. A complete unknown. Yeah, truly. Yeah, too complete unknown. But yeah, no, I just, I just, yeah, two of them. Oh, and then they've got the other sister, Elizabeth. Elizabeth, who by the way is my favorite actress. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:47:37 One of the best actresses. You see, they're just incredible. Have you ever watched, I mean, obviously WandaVision, but have you ever seen Ingrid Goes West? No, no. You would love this movie. Oh wait, is it about the- Auburn Plaza.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Auburn Plaza, yes I have seen it. And it's a stalker, like stalker situation with the social media. It's such a bold, great, like interesting movie about a dynamic like that, that like really pushes it and goes there, and then ends in such a weird question mark. Dark funny way.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Dark funny way. Like it's truly, I just miss dark comedies like that. You know what I just watched again? And we saw Matthew Broderick last night and I told him this. Election. Election. Yeah, so good.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Never seen it. Oh. You would love Amelia, it's your kind of movie. Really, I should watch it. Reese Witherspoon is in a way like the Olsen girl of her time, of her microgeneration. You favor Reese Witherspoon. I love Reese Witherspoon.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Oh, you think I look like her? I do. Okay, I love that, she's beautiful. Elle Woods. Elle Woods, oh! Elle Woods. You have an Elle Woods quality about you. Really, about so nice.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And I mean that as the highest compliment. Of course it is, she's an accomplished lawyer and dog person. Dog person. You know that they're doing, so you- They're doing another one. The prequel. Yes, they are, but check out Election,
Starting point is 00:48:52 because it's one of Reese's best performances. And whenever anyone is like forgetting that Reese can do dark, I'm like, can you just go watch literally anything from the first half of her career? Like Pleasantville, she's like so deliciously bitchy in it and like she plays this turn so well of like waking up to that.
Starting point is 00:49:12 But Tracy Flick, her character in Election. What's the premise of the film? So the premise is basically it's a high school and Matthew Broderick is a social studies teacher and there's a girl in class, Tracy Flick, played by Reese Witherspoon, who's like an overachiever, very Mary-Kate or Ashley, depending on the movie vibe. And so she drives him nuts.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And basically she has an affair, I mean, with a teacher that's his friend, and he gets obviously kicked out of the school. And so Matthew Broderick's character grows to like really resent this girl who's running for class president unopposed. So he encourages a popular jock student to run against her. She goes crazy, like because she's like not supposed to lose.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And it's like a sort of political satire taking place in this high school. And they did a sequel to it called Tracy Flick Can't Win. Tom Perot wrote a second book like years and years later. And they're doing it. Alexander Payne is supposed to do it. They're getting the script together. I didn't know that. She's supposed to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 She's producing it too. Oh, Reese is producing it. Yes. That's the buzz. Criterion collection. Yeah. It's like, it's one of those movies where you're just like, it's undeniable.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I think you would love it. Okay, I'm definitely gonna watch it. Yeah. Tonight. Tonight. It actually would be a great movie for tonight. Great movie where're just like, it's undeniable. I think you would love it. Okay, I'm definitely gonna watch it. Yeah. Tonight. Tonight. It actually would be a great movie for tonight. Great movie where it's like, you know what? I went out last night. Yeah, but I still wanna watch something good.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I wanna watch something I'm awake for, I have to think about, but it's not gonna like scare me or like, you know. Perfect. Drive me nuts. I can look at my phone every 20 minutes or so. If I wanted to. Adapted screenplay Oscar nominee.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That's right. How excited are you? I or so. If I wanted to. Adapted screenplay Oscar nominee. That's right. How's it a pain? I love awards. You really love awards. I was like a gold Derby kid. Okay, we're going to the Oscars for the first time. Yes, oh my God. What's, what's, what are your tips?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Don't wear a train dress. Okay. You know, like a long dress with a train. And then you, sorry. I've seen what he's wearing. It's a stupid support suit. It has no train. Because that was a nightmare for then you, sorry. I've seen what he's wearing. It's a stupid. It's a poor GIO. It has no train.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Because that was a nightmare for me when I went. And like, yeah, that was a nightmare. I would say eat something before, but then also afterwards at the governor's ball, there's like the most amount of food in the world. Like ever. And there's like every single kind of food you could ever have, but like in a miniature version.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And then they also have gold, gold Oscars made out of chocolate. I love tiny food. Which you can take for your family, like take a two-load back to London for my dad. You're so sweet. Yeah, I like my whole suitcase is filled with it. Your dad is adorable, by the way. I'm sorry, is that so patronizing?
Starting point is 00:51:39 He's so wonderful, he seems like such a charming man. Yeah, he is so sweet. Both my parents are so cute. And you're very close with your sister as well. Yeah, really close to my sister. Yeah, he is so sweet. Both my parents are so cute. That's lovely. And you're very close with your sister as well. Yeah, really close to my sister. Yeah, we work together and we're just like, we used to live together then we had to separate
Starting point is 00:51:52 because it's too much. Well, yeah. Also twins, kind of also twins vibes. Very also twins vibe, actually. We were very similar in age. We're only one year apart. So it's kind of like giving, it's giving Mary Kay and Ashley.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Very that. Who's who? Depends on the movie. I mean, I'm sorry. We've been over this. Depends on the movie. I'm sorry, we've been over this. Depends on the movie. So yeah, so we'll have to see. We'll have to really see.
Starting point is 00:52:09 To be continued. To be continued. Now were you a Full House first person? Did they have Full House in the UK? They probably did on some random channel, but I didn't watch it. Oh, so you weren't introduced to them when we were. Well, actually, I guess you didn't have television cable.
Starting point is 00:52:22 No, but Full House was a thing in Canada, for sure. I found out about them through Billboard Dad, I think was the first thing, Billboard Dad. Billboard Dad. What was the one where they were living in like, it was like, they were in like Miami beach or something, and they lived in like what looked like essentially a hotel. I think that one.
Starting point is 00:52:39 No, their dad wasn't Steve Guttenberg. I'm getting that mixed up with their iconic film, It Takes Two. It Takes Two is, yes. Have you seen It Takes Two? Yes, I've seen It Takes Two. With Keir Siali? Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:49 We're naming off so many movies. So many movies. Are we in retrospect a little bit like, fuck, I mean, what was their life? They were just working these kids to the fucking bone. Yeah, so true in a way. And, but now, but they seem to, I feel like they love to work because they,
Starting point is 00:53:05 you wouldn't run a fashion brand if you didn't love to work because that's like one of the hardest jobs in the world. But also, what were you gonna say? Sorry. No, but they love- But also like they are so like, we don't want to be seen at all. So cool. Like that's the reactionary thing to like
Starting point is 00:53:21 being in show businesses at that young age. And I also feel like they're in a way like the precursor to like the modern day influencer that we have now. Absolutely. Because like Mary Kay and Ashley's movies for me was like how I feel like people now when they're watching Alex Earl or like all these other influencers
Starting point is 00:53:36 because you wanted like you want to watch someone's really fun life where they're like going out to parties, they're kissing boys, they're like putting on makeup and stuff. But like I watched that through Mary Kay and they're like putting on makeup and stuff. But like I watched that through Mary Kay and Ashley, but like that was obviously fictionalized. Like that's what I loved about it was because I felt like I was like
Starting point is 00:53:52 getting a door open into like their world, which I thought was real. And now we do have that now, but it is, well, it's kind of real to a point, but you have that with influencers, I guess. But you're touching on something so huge, which is that like when we were growing up or when we were like impressionable youth, like we knew it to be a fantasy. And now it's like, it's hard to tell for a lot of people. It's true.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And people probably do are watching people on TikTok and thinking, oh my God, this is like their actual life. Not realizing that like so much of it is still staged and like, not staged in that sense, but like, you know, like heightened or like the things that you decide to include in the things you choose not to. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And yeah, it's a bit more, yeah, difficult for young people probably to get their head around it. But that saying that, I honestly did think that Mary Kay and Ashley lived that life. I literally thought that. I was like, oh, they obviously are like jetting off to the Bahamas. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:40 They're going to like kiss those boys in Paris. Like they are doing that. They really were all over the world. They were Mrs. Worldwide. Yeah. People watch out. Miss and Miss Worldwide. Little Miss Miss Miss and Miss Worldwide.
Starting point is 00:54:53 That's actually roller culture number 14. Mary Kay and Ashley were Miss and Miss Worldwide. Little Miss Miss Worldwide. Little Miss Miss Worldwide. You know they never did really Little Miss Miss Worldwide. Is not a no or Amelia, what was it? I think a Nora 2 Amelia has a point, but, and I would like to see it,
Starting point is 00:55:11 but wait, they never grew up on camera though, you know what I mean? Like they did New York Minute, and then it was kind of like, you know what? You guys don't get to see us encounter drugs and alcohol. You guys actually don't, you don't get to see us get a horny feeling, no. And I think it's because A,
Starting point is 00:55:29 probably they were fed up at that point, but B, people are so uncomfortable whenever that happens with anyone they're watching as a kid. Like think about, like now it's so crazy because Miley Cyrus is like a beloved American treasure, four quadrant, mom's, dad's, brother's quadrants, moms, dads, brothers, sisters, everyone loves her, the gays, everyone. But she was derided.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Of course. 100%. For like, you know. Just growing up, being sexual. Yeah, it's the Britney thing, it's the, yeah. It's all of them. And Mary Kate and Ashley didn't even participate in that. They were just like, we're actually, no.
Starting point is 00:56:01 You got everything you're getting from us. Yeah, cause you're going to be judged as a young woman in the limelight if you're showing all of these different sides to your personality or just figuring stuff out on camera or whatever. And yeah, they just basically were like, goodbye, close the door. They just skipped straight to dating like an older French guy. Yes, they did. Was he like in politics or something?
Starting point is 00:56:24 Or something like... Which one's a billionaire? Some, like they have a very, yeah, they've got, yeah, interesting men in their lives. This has been on my to-do list, but like a dating pros and cons list. Have we done this exercise? Dating pros and cons. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:56:40 Like for... Like things that you're like, he needs to be at least these things. French billionaire. French billionaire. Right, and so you mean like for? Like things that you're like, he needs to be at least these things. French billionaire. French billionaire. Right, and so you're like, well, does he have to be a billionaire? No, evil.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Does he, no, of course. I'm just saying like- He can be a multi-billionaire. I just want- Someone to buy me dinner. Really? And that's a test. No, no, well, I realized my bar is really low. I need to raise it. Yeah, and this live in this moment, I was? And that's a test. No, no, well I realize my bar is really low,
Starting point is 00:57:05 I need to raise it. Yeah, and this live in this moment, I was like, that's it? Yeah, no, it's actually sad. Less funny than me, so that I can feel better. But at least, buy dinner. And buy me dinner. We can buy me dinner.
Starting point is 00:57:16 That's actually, there's people. Yeah, there's some people. There's some people for that. Is there anything that like everyone else would consider a positive that you consider a negative when dating someone? Totally. Everyone considers a positive. Like, honestly, you know what drives me kind of nuts?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Like, not—politeness doesn't drive me crazy, because I actually do like to know that the person really likes me, but I don't like to feel like things are careful or like too kind. Yeah. For me, there needs to be like some edge. Yeah. Like, I need to feel like things are careful or like too kind. For me, there needs to be like some edge. Like I need to feel, and not like I've had a really nice time. Don't tell me you had a really nice time. Make out with me on the street.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That's how I feel. Not in the day though. I'm against the wall. I've done that. Oh God. See, that's what's so great about, that's why when you come to New York and you start dating here,
Starting point is 00:58:03 and I bet it does give that in East London, to be honest, but very... I'm on the East side where you are. It's exactly that. Yeah. Wow. I need to feel... I've been transported back to the streets of London. Is it cool that I stand on? Is it true that you're in my head?
Starting point is 00:58:17 Is it true that, like, in New York, everyone's dating all the time? Like, multiple people? Because that's what people say about New York. Really? When you're dating someone, it's usual that they'll be, like multiple people. Cause that's what people say about New York. That like when you're dating someone, it's normal, it's usual that they'll be like dating numerous other people like, like all the time. They say don't do that, but I think it happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Of course. I do it. The New York thing, I'm curious if this is the same in London, the New York thing is everyone thinks that they can do better than the person they're with. Yep. On some level. I feel like that's a thing now, just in like society, you think, because you've got too many options. It's literally like, it's like browsing through Netflix.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's like, well, let me keep looking, because there's some... I'm like at about a six or a seven in terms of watching this show about, you know, like, this documentary that's like, I'm kind of interested, but I'm sure there's something that's going to take me over the edge. And you just keep... It's online shopping. It's like... I'm kind of interested, but I'm sure there's something that's gonna take me over the edge and you just keep, it's online shopping. It's like- It's immediacy culture.
Starting point is 00:59:07 It's the instant gratification that we're so used to that makes us swipe, swipe, swipe away from like these actual things. Do you guys know the Muslim matchmaker? Yes, and she says focus on one partner. She says focus on one person. The illusion of choice is just that, an illusion. It's like, you're not giving someone a chance.
Starting point is 00:59:26 If you are thinking about two or three other people, even like later on in the week, whatever, you also will be less attentive to them. You're going to find yourself going on a date being like, now is this the one with the two older sisters? You know what I mean? And it's like, that's crazy. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:43 No, I've caught myself in that for sure. And to quote Natalie Portman, I've been you. Is it closer? Oh, I love that film. Great movie. It's one of the great films. So good. It was a play, was it a play first?
Starting point is 00:59:55 It was a play first. I love a play. Like, I love like, sorry. I love, I'm not even inspiring now. I love movies that feel like plays. I love them too, but people knock that for some reason. I like that. Well, a common criticism is it felt stagey or it felt like a this.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I'm like, what's bad about a long scene? Hello, watch the movie Doubt, the scene with Meryl Streep and Viola Davis. Yeah, yell at me that it's stagey. I love that film. What, you hate people acting at each other? Get out. Get out. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Get out of here, I say. Wait, get American accent. Thanks. Yeah? You've been told that. No, I haven't. Sorry, that messed up now. That was really good.
Starting point is 01:00:37 My agent keeps trying to get me to do auditions in an American accent and I'm like, I can't. Do you have acting ambitions? I would like to, yeah. Okay, we're gonna write something for you. Yeah. Oh, please. We'll take care of you have acting ambitions? I would like to, yeah. Okay, we're gonna write something for you. Yeah. Oh, please. We'll take care of you.
Starting point is 01:00:47 We'll take care of you. You don't have to argue with me ever again. Wait, I see something for Amelia. Same. For sure. No, like we're, yeah. Sorry, we're being so annoying. We're being so fucking annoying.
Starting point is 01:00:57 And we're being such bitches. Bitches. You literally look like bitches, doobas. Wait, I did an impression of you last night on the carpet, right? What did I say again? You said, oh, I love Andrew Garfield. No, I said, I said, Andrew Garfield loves me.
Starting point is 01:01:08 He's obsessed with me. Andrew Garfield's obsessed with me. Have you spoken to him since all that? Or did it start a friendship? Yeah, I would say we're friends. That's good. Yeah, I would say we're friends. No, he's so nice.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Of course. He seems lovely. Sweetheart. Okay, but I still don't want to finish this conversation about the potential of falling in love on the show for you. Yeah, okay. I feel like I might meet someone on the show, but then once I end the show, then maybe I bump into them at a party and then that's how it would work.
Starting point is 01:01:39 That's when it's on. Yeah. That's how I realistically feel like it would work. That sounds really right. Rather than like the day after we film, I'm like, so... So we're going up now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does a guest ever hit you up after, you don't have to say who,
Starting point is 01:01:50 but did a guest ever hit you up after like in an actual way? No. No? Fucked up. No. It's actually fucked up. It's actually fucked up. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:59 You know what sucks about your show? You don't have any gay guys on. I'm trying. I'm trying. Well, you were on our show. I'm trying. I'm trying. Well, you were on our show. I'm trying. What do you mean you're trying? Who are you trying?
Starting point is 01:02:09 You're trying to get John C. Bailey. Yeah. Oh, who was not? Is he not? No, no, no, no, no, who was not John? I said who was not John? He was supposed to do our show. Was he?
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah. And then there was just double bookings. It was a double booking. It was a double booking. No, and it's my fault. Oh, it's your fault. It's fine. That one had to do Kelly Clarkson
Starting point is 01:02:27 at the time we were originally scheduled. And that is literally the only thing I would allow. I feel like I have had a gay person on. Well, you've had a gay person on, you haven't had a gay man on. Because I feel like you think that you can't flirt with the person. But let me tell you something,
Starting point is 01:02:44 just me and you in a room with chicken, you're gonna feel something. Well this is a blind spot for me, and actually I need to get more gay men on the show. Thanks. I just wanted to open that door. Your work isn't over. No, thank you for highlighting that.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yeah. Thank you. I'm gonna do more. Sometimes it's easier to flirt with girls. I love flirting with girls. Well you are, who do you, Bowen's like a little bit, yeah, straighter than me. Isn't that, does that surprise you?
Starting point is 01:03:08 You are straight, yeah. I'm, yeah. Yeah. We talked about this. Yeah, you and Sydney Sweeney. Yeah, vibes. You, Gina Gershon, you and Sydney Sweeney, you and- Wait, you guys are leading people on, actually.
Starting point is 01:03:20 You've probably had, well, you've probably had, people have probably gone to their friends, like I had the most amazing conversation with this guy. He was talking to me all night. This guy. He was talking to me all night. And then turns out, he's gay! You know, I actually, someone gave me their phone number
Starting point is 01:03:35 when I worked at Ulysses years ago. A girl was like, gave me her phone number on a napkin. Like it was a rom-com. And I was like, I don't... A girl gave you her phone number on a napkin. I didn't even try to act like anything other than myself. And I was like, am I straight passing? Perhaps.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The answer is no, for a chance. Really, she couldn't even answer it. Wait, sorry, what was the question? Am I straight passing? Oh, sorry, I didn't hear that. Sorry, I'm literally... We're so tired. So I've actually like got turned a corner now or I'm like, I actually thought I was going so tired. So I've actually like got turned to corn an hour.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I'm like, I actually thought I was going to throw up before I came into this room. Do you vomit when you're hungover? Yeah. You do? Did you vomit last night? No. Good.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So that means like it's backed up. It's coming up. It's coming up. It's coming up. It's coming up. It's there. Do you know that song? What's that?
Starting point is 01:04:22 What is that? I don't know. Good singing ambitions. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Do you have singing ambitions? Yeah, yeah, I can't, clearly. What was the question? When I'm around a British person, I ask a question like this. It's so much funner.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It's so much more fun to ask it like that. It's a way... Say what? Do you have singing ambitions? Do you have singing ambitions? That wasn't a British accent. But it's not an accent, it's the inflection. It's the inflection, Amelia.
Starting point is 01:04:39 It's like, in America, you ask a question like this, and in the UK, you ask a question like this. Yes, so true. You know. It's like in America, you ask a question like this, and in the UK, you ask a question like this. Yes, so true. You know. You are not straight person. That's a question. That's a statement.
Starting point is 01:04:54 That's a statement. You don't think I'm straight person. It isn't more like, but. You say it like, soapy. Hello. Hello. Okay, we gotta get you out of here. We all gotta get out of here. You say it like, so be it. Hello. Hello. Wow. Okay, we gotta get you out of here.
Starting point is 01:05:07 We all gotta get out of here. No, I don't fucking understand this. What time is it? It's 4.39. My girl was 10 late. Oh, stop it. No, she wasn't. Drag an ass down the street.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah, I was actually. Sorry that I was getting stopped to ask for photos. Were you actually? Well, you are incredibly recognizable. And I'm also just, yeah, well, am I? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think, I think. Also, I think people think, people think I'm approachable.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I am approachable, but like, I think because of the show, it's like people are more likely to come up if you're doing something in comedy. I feel like you probably get this the same thing. 100%, for sure. You probably have all the time. It's lovely though. It's so nice.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I always just think like, there's so many, it's a privilege to get people to come up and say that they like your work. When so many people are in jobs where they're never thanked for what they do, their boss never tells them they're doing a good job. And we literally get people being like, good job, you work.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Thank you for doing that. Yeah, it's so nice. It is lovely. Very, very nice. That's a beautiful perspective. Yeah, it is. Do you have your Oscars dress? Not yet.
Starting point is 01:06:01 You gotta get on that. Yeah. Do you have a color? No. Okay. Which I don't know what I'm wearing yet. You gotta get on that. Yeah. Do you have a color? No. Okay. Which I don't know what I'm wearing yet. I don't know what I'm wearing. Will you be dressed?
Starting point is 01:06:10 I hope so. Yeah, nice. I better be. Can I say one of the number one things I look forward to when you're gonna be somewhere is what you're gonna be wearing. You always look amazing. Oh, that's so nice.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Thank you. You have such amazing fashion sense. You went to school for fashion journalism? Yes, I studied fashion journalism at St. Martin's. And yeah, I always wanted to work at Vogue. That was like my ambition. I see it. Yeah, I wanted to be editor of Vogue.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Still time. There is still time. There is still time. Well, but not now. And then, yeah, when I was studying fashion journalism, I kind of realized I was more interested in like pop culture as a whole. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And kind of, and then I was doing Chicken Shop Day at the same time, like while I was at university. And then just like Chicken Shop Day, I just focused on that. But yeah, I've always loved fashion. And like I just find fashion history and like... Yeah, fashion journalism is like a gateway into like culture as a whole anyway. Everything is so connected. Everything is so connected.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Everything is so connected. Well, it's a specific window. It's like, it's the entry point into the broader scope of cultural. Yeah, whether it's, yeah, whether it's from, even from politics to business. To music. To like music, to like identity, like, to everything. You're Bradcoded right now.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Am I? Well, always. I've got a meshed back. Oh, right. That's why. Yeah, his back is meshed. Is it? Well, just for some more air. Just for ventilation, of course. Okay, I love that. I love that. Thanks. Yeah, his back is messed. Is it? Well, just for some more air. Just for ventilation, of course. I love that.
Starting point is 01:07:26 I love that. Yeah, he's black-coated. You know, just a little bit. Always. And my shoes. Well, you had Charli on, didn't you? Oh God, I love Charli. She's the coolest, the best person ever.
Starting point is 01:07:36 So talented and like, it's just, oh God. Down to earth. So down to earth and so amazing, so funny, so brilliant. But yeah, like watching her perform is just like such a joy. Like every time I see her live, I've seen her perform so many times now. And it's just, I'm just so blown away by, I think it's also when you know someone, like as a friend,
Starting point is 01:07:53 and then you see them on stage and you're like, what? You're like, oh my goodness. Like, how do you do that? I just think it's, and she's so physical on stage too. Like what she does with her, like her movement and everything, it's like, wow,, wow, I'm in awe of her. She's amazing. Yeah, I loved her episode with you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I know. She had a great episode. I think it was one of my favorite. It was a viral moment. It was, I'm not- Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm bitchy. But I can be a bitch. I can't even quote it.
Starting point is 01:08:19 What? Neither would I. I don't think, no. What did she say? I'm not a bitch. I'm not. I don't think, no, what did she say? I'm not a bitch. I'm not? I can be bitchy, but I don't know if I'm a bitch. Right?
Starting point is 01:08:33 There is a distinction. That is the big distinction. We're pulling our own. That was a good moment. You know what's crazy? That was a great moment. I'm not really on TikTok. You neither.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And so like, I didn't know it was a viral sound until well after it had been. It's probably the best. Yeah. No, it, I didn't know it was a viral sound until well after it happened. It's probably the best. Yeah. No, it's fun. It's fun to go viral. Yeah, certainly. You would know.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Must be nice. Must be nice. And Andy, a good friend. My good friend, Andy Samberg. Oh my God. You should have him on. I would love. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:58 You guys would, Sparks would be flying. I would love that. What if you home-racked? What if I home-racked? I don't want you in your homewrecker era. They'll be so unkind online. No, I know. And it's not for me.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I don't want to be on the Reddit. Exactly. On the Reddit thread. No, you don't. No, please. You want to be on snark subs or whatever. Okay. It's time for another thanks, Sony.
Starting point is 01:09:19 God. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will, too.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? Owl goes lower? I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre.
Starting point is 01:10:04 The guy just disappeared one day. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre. The guy just disappeared one day. Santi has been missing ever since. The hookup. What is that? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup.
Starting point is 01:10:20 You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f- Yeah, that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry. Poppers? These aren't just any poppers. Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex. No, not my psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either.
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Starting point is 01:12:18 and mandatory Ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the canceled to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you have something?
Starting point is 01:12:51 Have you had- Yeah, I've got something, but I don't know whether I'm going to be able, I just need to get my energy up. Let me have a sip of water. I'm having coffee and- Seven and a half, seven and a half. Wait, do you guys drink coffee?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Yeah, do you? I can't. Why? I can't, it makes me go insane. Does it not make you insane? I thought you were gonna say something else. I thought you were gonna say it makes me go shit. It does, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:11 It makes me poo. And do you say poo in America? In Canada, we would say poo more than poop. He's probably more likely to say poo than me. We said poo in Canada, but now more American. I spend more time in the States, it's poop. Poop. Okay. Poop. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:26 It's poop. See, I don't like poop either. I have to say, poop is bad. You know what? I'm running. Okay. This is Matt Rogers.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The word poop. There's nothing worse, worst letter in the alphabet by far. P, I'm sorry, I can lose it. There are so many better, and also not for nothing,
Starting point is 01:13:52 but there's enough Peters, there's enough Patricks, there's enough Poles. It's like, let's get more creative. Let's explore the letter Q, okay? How about more Quintins and Quentins in the world? But back to poop, here's what I don't like. That letter I hate, at the end, you have to say it not once but twice.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Let's not even get into what we're talking about when we say the word, fecal matter. I think that fecal matter, there's one time that Bowen and I wrote a piece, we wrote a show, and he wrote a line, it was the funniest thing I ever heard, he said, you are a vile fecal woman. And I said, calling someone fecal and talking about feces is better than poop.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Grow up and say shit, grow up and say- Five seconds. Shart, not poop. I'm so hungover. And that's one minute. Wow. That was quite searing. That was really, that was serious.
Starting point is 01:14:45 But I do want to say for context, the line, you vile fecal woman, was in response to your character taunting me by saying that you had eaten my husband's ass out. You vile fecal woman. So that was just context. I'll never forget your line reading. Oh, thanks.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Yeah, I was like, I was eating your husband's ass last night. He said, you vile fecal woman. No, that's good. Owen's a wonderful writer. He's away with the quill. Away with the words. I didn't get to say this. It's really the fact that it's like poop.
Starting point is 01:15:11 It's the poop. Poop is cute. I don't think so at all. I was gonna say poo is cute. Poop is cute. No, poo is like you're dancing around it. Oh, P-O-O is cute. P-O-O is cute.
Starting point is 01:15:21 And also it looks cute, poo. But poop is a palindrome. A what? Spelled the same way as it is back. Oh, love that. A new word today. A new word today? Yeah. All right, Matt's got his sunglasses on.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I left the building. Actually, you've inspired me. Yeah? I'm not gonna do a letter, I'm gonna do something else. Okay. Yes. So this would be our lucky day. Because it's Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey.
Starting point is 01:15:43 His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, the number nine. What are you giving? Prime number, squared number, that's all you have going on. That's all you will ever be. Let's go through them.
Starting point is 01:15:57 One, amazing, iconic. Two, amazing, iconic. Three, one of the most important numbers, the rule of three. Four, I like. And Beyonce. Four, great Beyonce album. Five, really important, you need the halfway to 10.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You really need that as a benchmark in accounting system. Six, I like. I love six. Seven, oh, name a prettier number than seven. Eight, I love eight. You eight. You eight. Nine, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Nine, what are you giving us? You might as well be 10. You know what I mean? I don't know. What are you doing nine? You're pussy footing around 10. I think you should nut up. Five seconds.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And go up to 10 or go down to eight because that's a prettier number or you might as well be seven because nothing beats seven. That's one minute. Wow. Now, why was six afraid of seven? Why? Because seven ain't nine.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And because nine is, nine can only be eaten and nine will never eat. I think they wanted to eat nine because nine's delicious, quite frankly. I love nine. I feel bad for nine at this point. I feel really bad for nine. Why?
Starting point is 01:17:04 Why do you feel like you need to defend nine? Because you think it's catching strays and did nothing to deserve it. Yes, I love nine. I feel bad for nine at this point. I feel really bad for nine. Why? Why do you feel like you need to defend nine? Because you think it's catching strays and did nothing to deserve it. Yes, I think so. Do you have nine in your sort of date of birth or anything? Is there any meaningful number? No, absolutely not. Excuse me, 1989?
Starting point is 01:17:15 Oh, 1994. Yeah, hello. Oh, sorry, yeah. I'm born in 1990. I'm made of the stuff. 1999, what about the movie Nine? Love! Ugh, get out.
Starting point is 01:17:27 So you've seen that? So you've seen one film. So you've seen a movie. You know that I saw Nine twice in theaters. I know that about you, yeah. I do know that one. Who do you identify with from Nine? The one, who's, she's got a famous mom.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson. Same! You two? Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson. Same! You two are Kate Hudson. Literally when I saw Kate Hudson at nine, I was like, I finally saw myself on screen. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:53 The reporter with like a fucking huge piece in her hair. The hair was really giving. Cinnabar in italiano. So good. Just like throwing ass in that. Is it a remake? Is it a remake? Of eight and a half. It's like a retail, re-imagining of eight and a half.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Okay, right. Eight and a half, random. Random. Random. No, no, no, that's- I'll take it over nine. What about Petful Nine and Three Quarters? Nine and Three Quarters, might as well be 10.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Also, we're not elevating that transphobe's work. Oh yeah, sorry, sorry. By the way, you know what? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know who hates you now? J.K. Charlie and Troy. Why? By the way, you know what? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know who hates you now? JK. Charlie and Troy. Because they just want to go back back to 1999.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I stick around. I find nine quite chic when it's next to another nine or any other number. Nine is chic. Nine is so chic. Nine is actually the chicest number. I don't know, y'all. Nine by itself, I don't enjoy. It gives me anxiety, I say, go to 10.
Starting point is 01:18:48 You know what I mean? I think honestly, if I'm really thinking about the numbers, three pisses me off. Nine doesn't want the responsibility of 10, you know? 10's a big responsibility. Nor should it take a responsibility it can't handle. Did you think about that? But it won't, that's why it's not.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I know, I think that is a lot of restraint. 10 is whole. 10 is... 10 is king. By the way, I don't think nine is a prime number. Yeah, I'm sorry it's not. I take that back, of course. I can't believe I knew a number thing.
Starting point is 01:19:18 You didn't. I am deeply mistaken. Amelia. Because you know what you can do with nine. Split it in threes. But I hate three. Three six it. Amelia. Cause you know what you can do with nine, split it in threes. But I hate three. Three, six, nine. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Wait, also if you don't have nine, you can't have 69, the best sexual position. I don't know. No, I don't know. Have y'all, have y'all, have y'all, have y'all 69 recently? Cause it's always like, I don't know what, it's all canceling out.
Starting point is 01:19:42 It's a bit, I'm like, it's unnecessary. I kind of love it. A bit unnecessary. I kind of love it.'s all canceling out. It's a bit unnecessary. I kind of love it. I kind of love it. I like it in theory. I'm thinking about it. I'm going, oh, that's nice. I don't like it. Why is it called 69?
Starting point is 01:19:54 Because you are a six and a nine. Someone's a six and someone's a nine. You know what I'm saying? You catching my drift? Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Like, no. If this is a six and that's a body, here comes nine. Beep, beep, beep.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And there's a little. Isn't it more of an eight? No. Wait, let's actually think about this before we say no. Before we like, disrespect her suggestion. No, okay, okay. Let's think about it. No.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Okay, glad we cleared that one up. But do you understand why it's 69? No. So it's- So look, look, look. All right, Bowen, we have to show her. This is what it is. It's like, all right, let's show her.
Starting point is 01:20:30 One person is, like this is the tail, and then that's... By the way, this is a ventricle. And then see, like, we're, like, it's like we're symmetrical. That doesn't look like a six or a nine to me. That does not look like a six or a nine. Amelia. That does not look like a six or a nine. Amelia. Do you want me to do it to you? Do you want me to do it to you?
Starting point is 01:20:48 No, I'm fragile. You've had it already. I've had it. Period. I think that 69 is great when it's not side by side. I have to be. You have to be down on your back. I have to sort of be exactly what I just did to you.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Just like that. Just like that. Oh yeah. That's just the best. That's what we just saw there. That is romance. You know what's gonna happen? This video is gonna come out audio first
Starting point is 01:21:11 and then a couple of days later video and they're not gonna be able to wait to watch me 69 Bowen. It happened. We have been getting a lot of requests to kiss lately. Have you seen that? Kiss, kiss. Kiss, kiss.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Kisses. Kisses. I'm like, we're sisters. The fans. The fans. Kissing's fun, yeah. My favorite thing to, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. I'm like, we're sisters. The fans. The fans. Kissing's fun, yeah. My favorite thing to do. You guys want to all kiss?
Starting point is 01:21:28 Yeah. No, please. Challenges. Challengers. Challengers. Oh wow, you really should have been in the middle. You're Zendaya, obviously, but then who are we? I'm, I think I might be Feist, I guess.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah. I'm Josh. You're like the scuzzier, messier one. No, that's a huge compliment. I'm for the streets. You're like the scuzzier, messier one. No, that's a huge compliment. I'm for the streets. You're for the streets. We were saying, one of my favorite comments about me recently online was that I need to stop
Starting point is 01:21:52 pushing Bowen to talk about his sex life just because I'm for the streets. I wish I was for the streets. You are for the streets. Look at the top you're wearing, you slut. You're such a slut. What are you, she's taking a turn. There's a shy girl slug where she's like,
Starting point is 01:22:06 she goes, I'm for the streets bitch. Yeah, that's great. Really good. I'm for the streets bitch. You bitch. All right, are you ready to show the streets what you got? You said you had something.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I do. Okay, this is Amelia DeVoldemort because I don't think so honey, her time starts now. I don't think so honey, magicians. Yeah, here we go. Okay, watch, I don't need a man to tell me something I don't know. Hello? Don't trick me.
Starting point is 01:22:29 What? Stop doing it. Also, where are the female magicians? I don't see any of them. Okay, it's a feminist issue. The only women around magic are getting sawn in half. Okay, no, thank you. Playing cards, sleight of hand.
Starting point is 01:22:47 I just don't think it's necessary really. And I also think it's... I've been to the Magic Castle. Wow. Smelled bad. Smelled bad. Smelled bad. Smelled really bad.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Also, it's not real. What? Magic? Oh, sorry, it's not real. I thought you meant the Magic House. What? 15 seconds. Magic's not real.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Show me some real magic. Find me an emotionally available man who can buy me dinner. Oh my God. That's all I want. Five seconds. Isn't it? Don't pull a rabbit out of a hat.
Starting point is 01:23:15 They don't want to be there. And that's one minute. Amelia. First of all, I think that you are so right to call out the gender inequality in this art form. Yes, yes, it's true. It's weird, isn't it? As Olivia Rodrigo once said,
Starting point is 01:23:29 God, it's brutal out here. Exactly. No, but I think there's a reason why women don't want to be magicians because they know it's like not appropriate like to be a magician. Appropriate in the sense that like... It's not appropriate really to be a magician.
Starting point is 01:23:43 It's lying. It's lying. Yes, it's lying. It's lying. It's lying. Yes, it's lying. It's just more men lying to me. Right. And I don't want it around me. What if... Do you like magic?
Starting point is 01:23:51 I can appreciate it. Okay. But like, what if... But what if... Okay. I mean, hold on, hold on, hold on. What if they're like, we're going to pay you
Starting point is 01:24:02 five million dollars if you learn magic. Oh my God, it's so lame. Magic. You don't need that money. You don't need that money. What am I going to be doing? Like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Well, okay.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Sorry, no. If you were going to do magic, what would, like, you know what I'm saying? The different forms. You should find a lane. You should do fashion magic. Fashion magic? What, like, oh,, like when they like turn their
Starting point is 01:24:26 clearance inside out. No, it's pants. That's what I'm saying. We don't need it, we don't need it. Oh wait, no, do fashion magic. You know who I do kind of like? Who? Is it David Blaine?
Starting point is 01:24:38 Yeah, David Blaine. Oh, is he canceled? We don't know. I don't know. Do we know if David Blaine is canceled? Can we find out? Just Google search David Blaine canceled. But you can still like him if he is canceled. We don't know. I don't know. Do we know if David Blaine is canceled? Can we find out? Just Google search David Blaine canceled. But you can still like him if he's canceled.
Starting point is 01:24:48 No, I just, okay, that's the kind of magic I can, maybe I'm into that. But that's more like risking your life. Like you could maybe die. Right, and that's not to see. There's no to see in that. No. That's death defying. Have you ever seen Chris Angel?
Starting point is 01:24:59 Mind freak! No. I don't. He's under investigation for two sexual assaults. Okay. Okay. I hate him. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Got it. You're right. They're bad. They're bad. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm point braven. Wait, but where are the, is there one female,
Starting point is 01:25:16 you know who I shared birthday with, Penn Jillette. Oh. Are they the ones who shoot themselves? Um. Penn and Teller, right? If themselves? Pen and teller? Who has a pen and teller with a gun? I don't know if they have guns.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Wait, you ever interacted with Siegfried and Roy? They got mauled by their own tigers. That's what I'm saying, a dumb. We should just hung it up. Also Magic Castle, get the carpet cleaner out. It smells like that. Have you been there? I've not been there. I don't know why. Have you dead out. Have you been there? I've not been there.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I don't know why. Have you been there? Have you been there? I've been there. Unfortunately. No, did you get invited? By a magician. You have to be invited by a magician.
Starting point is 01:25:55 By a magician. And how did you know this magician? Just friend for friend. I wouldn't personally associate myself a magician. Were you trying to smash? I wasn't trying to smash the magician. No. Magician is not my type.
Starting point is 01:26:08 As we were, I don't think so, honey. Magicians. That was brutal. And the best way that you, I'm on your side completely. It was a searing takedown. Thank you. Emily DeMaldenberg,
Starting point is 01:26:17 what a true delight it's been to be with you this week. It's really been delightful. You have to come back. I've honestly had the best time with you guys. But like truly like for multiple days. Yeah, and I just really appreciate it because I feel like some of these things can be really overwhelming and it's so nice to like have people around you who are like actually funny, normal, great, talented, love it. Love you guys. And thank you so much for having me on. Of course. We feel the same way about you.
Starting point is 01:26:39 I remember meeting you at that part after part of being like, you just, I mean, we just have to have you on. I'm so glad it happened. And you guys, it's nearly, being like, you just, I mean, we just have to have you on. And I'm so glad it happened. And you guys, it's nearly the 10 years for you guys. Is it? It's true. Did we start about the same time? Yeah, we must have. That's so nice.
Starting point is 01:26:54 I guess like March 2016 was when we started. So another year or so. We're at the nine year mark. We're almost there. You should do a big 10 year thing. I'm sure we will. We love to do an event. You have to.
Starting point is 01:27:04 We love to eventize. We love to eventize. We love to eventize and maybe we'll see you at the awards. I think you're gonna be nominated. I'm begging to work the carpet. You know what? Let me work. Honestly, let me work. Could be good.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Could be good. Only if you wanna do it. Okay, we'll talk. We will talk. We'll talk. Well, we have to rope in a lot of people that have meetings about the culture awards now. We keep teasing the music.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Moving on up to the sound. All right, we end to rope in a lot of people who have meetings about the culture awards now. We keep teasing the music. Moving on up to the east side. All right, we end every episode with a song. And here we go. Moving on up to the east side. Why this key? That being in the sky. Yeah. Fish don't fry in the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Bye, thank you! Las Culturas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and My Heart Radio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive produced by Anna Hosnier. And produced by Becker Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Baehm and Monique Laborde. And our music is by Henry Kapursky. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.
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