Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Little Miss Miss Worldwide" (w/ Amelia Dimoldenberg)
Episode Date: February 19, 2025Matt, Bowen and special guest Amelia Dimoldenberg drag their hungover asses to the studio just hours after the SNL50 after party to discuss the SNL 50th anniversary special and concert! Also, Che...r, The Lonely Island, flirting styles, intentional dating vs. "playing the field", the letter "p", the number "9", the movie "Nine", and the future of Chicken Shop Date. All this, Amelia reveals where she stands with Andrew Garfield, shares the impact of Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen on her life, and gives the boys advice as first time Oscar-goers. We LOVE Amelia! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You.
This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes.
More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them.
More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
And you know what?
We love that for you.
Someone else will too.
Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Hey man, what are you into?
I have the hookup.
The hookup? The hookup for what?
I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now?
Poppers? Why are there so many poppers?
All roads lead to...
The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro?
I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to-
Yeah, that's a word for it.
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Look, man. Where? Oh, I see you. Wow. Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Look, Matt. Where?
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Goodness.
Oh, wow.
Las Culturistas.
Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling.
Okay, my brain feels like it's gonna come
out of my right eye.
And you know why.
We are coming at you fresh off of the SNL 50 after party.
Literally, it happened, it ended not 12 hours ago.
Yeah, we were technically still probably freaking buzzed.
The amount of gin and tonics we had.
What is my thing with gin and tonics lately?
No, we were...
Like, it's 1902.
We were pounding G were pounding the way.
GNT's the way.
Very British of us.
So, apropos.
Apropos.
I didn't see our guest drinking gin and tonics.
I don't know what our guest was drinking.
She was on another level.
I saw her with the martini glass all night.
Classy.
Classy girl.
Classy girlina.
This actually is a monumental day.
I have been waiting for this.
Me too.
Well, I met our guest at an adinestinal after party
and immediately I was like, the vibe is impeccable.
The vibe is impeccable.
Also instant friendship.
Instant friendship.
And then, so it was the three of us plus Zoe.
Yeah, can we mention her by name?
Zoe plus, I'm like, you really are being so compliant.
But by not speaking, please continue your behavior.
This is great.
And it was the four of us plus Celeste Yim,
famed SNL writer.
And it was the five of us being a little unit all night.
And anytime y'all would leave to go get a drink at the bar,
don't speak.
We would all check in English,
we'd be like, I mean the Demaldenburgs.
Love.
Just come on, it doesn't get any better than that.
Well, you know what's happened, which actually really bonds people,
is we've shared a dressing room to go through glam.
Yes.
So I've seen our guests through glam.
Oh, and that can be the most vulnerable place.
When you see someone with curlers in their hair, you see their soul.
When you see a patchology gel under eye thing.
I love that stuff.
You wanna know why?
It works.
Sometimes.
Huh?
Sometimes the bags do be staying.
And you go, why did I put this slime
on my face for 20 minutes?
I'm like, Amanda, anything?
Okay.
Can I tell you something?
No one looks more like shit right now than me.
Than me.
I am horrified.
And when I look at the lights,
I think, I know that's not right.
I get the NR.
Because this is gonna make me look
like the Crypt Keeper's ugly cousin,
who isn't even on camera.
The thing about the Crypt Keeper,
he still is telegenic.
He's telegenic and he has, but he's the most presentable of his family.
I'm going to say one thing that happened last night and this truly happened.
There's so many things that happened.
There's so many things that happened, but I'm going to say one thing,
because I don't know how much to reveal.
There's a lot of light and a lot of darkness to reveal.
We were talking about like these ugly Crypt Keeper types,
and then I was thinking, wow, how many gorgeous people did we see?
Guess who I feel my butt bump against their butt.
Bumping that.
And I turn around. Who is it?
Al Franken.
No, that would be the funny way to go about it.
Yeah, yeah.
But this is the on-the-nose thing.
My butt touched Kim Kardashian's butt.
That is so...
Our butts hit, and I turned around and I said,
oh, that's Kim K.
Y'all were Eric Stone Street and...
Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
Not Jesse Tyler Ferguson, the dad in Modern Family.
Oh, at O'Neill?
At O'Neill.
Remember there was that Modern Family episode
where they did like a moon landing?
I really did know you were like a scholar of Modern Family.
They touched butts in the men's locker room.
Right, right, and they touched naked butts.
Are you Eric Stone Street or are you at O'Neill?
We were both clothed.
Honestly, who has the bigger butt?
You.
Ed?
You think me?
Between you and Kim?
Kim's butt is bigger.
Get out the measuring stick.
Get out the measuring stick.
We gotta move on.
It's time to bring in our guest who,
speaking of pop culture,
and when you say Kim K, you say pop culture,
has truly, I don't know how to say this,
perfected the form of the interview.
Perfected the form of the interview.
You break chicken out, you bring smiles out.
Perfected the art of the edit.
This is Sean Baker found dead.
This is the new editrix queen of Hollywood.
I would like to see Anora too.
I would like to see our guest in the edit room
for Sean Baker's next film.
Can I pitch this?
Yes.
Anora 2 colon Amelia.
Gag!
Title of ep.
Anora 2 colon Amelia.
It's time.
This, she hosts Chicken Chop Date, the iconic Chicken Chop Date.
She is now a fixture and a welcome presence
at any red carpet event,
which is almost always more stress than it's worth
until you see our guest.
Was killing the carpet last night.
Killing the carpet last night
with my girl, Matt Rogers.
We were sort of, the glam bot was in between us.
Sometimes. We'll talk about the glam bot.
We'll talk about the glam bot.
But she, for the second year in a row,
will be a correspondent at the red carpet at the Oscars.
Can I talk now?
Yeah.
Hold on, hold on.
Everyone welcome, Amanda Baldemar!
Oh my God, such a pleasure to be here.
Long time no see, guys.
It must have been about two hours.
Two hours.
Were you at one through ten on brain needs to come out of your eye?
Yeah, I might, I'm dry, my mouth is dry.
Yeah.
My mouth is dry, my head is, but I just walked here from my hotel
and it really put the life back in my soul.
Oh yeah.
You need the cold to hit you sometimes for that to happen.
Is this jaywalking illegal still?
I don't think it matters.
Well, how does the wind chill in New York compare to the wind chill in London?
Oh, it's so much windier here.
Yeah.
Wind is… The wind is stronger.
More powerful.
Really?
Oh, 100%.
Because it whips around those big buildings.
It's the buildings are so big and they create the wind to be bigger.
Right.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you like… You come here and you're like,
okay, I can't wait to get back?
Well, to New York.
No, to London.
Oh, no, I love New York.
Yeah, okay, good. Yeah. But like, I just… I don't know if I could ever wait to get back. What? To New York? No, to London. Oh, no. I love New York. Yeah, okay, good.
Yeah. But like, I just…
I don't know if I could ever live here full-time.
Well, we would like that.
It's so full-on.
How are we going to maintain a friendship?
No, I know, I know.
There is only one option that I do need to move.
That's the only option?
That's the only… You can't really have a long-distance friendship, really.
Because we're not coming to London all that much.
Why not?
Well, you're right.
I actually have to say, I think we should go more.
I think we should go more.
I need to get back on…
I need to recalibrate my London experience because for a while it was…
Because you're filming for Wicked.
And it was…
It's one of the great cities of the world throughout history.
Throughout history, yeah.
I do still associate with…
Oh God, I'm leaning at Heathrow.
Oh no, God, I'm getting stressed out and I have to like figure out the rest of my week.
And it was like, for a while it was the sight
of my darkest moments.
We shot the movies for a year total.
Oh my God, there's two of them.
There's two of them.
Just wait till next, wow, it's this year.
Just wait till a few months.
Just wait till this year.
Just wait.
Just wait.
It's coming up this year.
It's coming.
You'll be changed for good.
And that's just what I hear.
No, you're right.
No, we need to come to London more.
Where are you?
You're a Marlabone girl.
You grew up there.
Yeah, I grew up in Marlabone,
but now I live in East London.
Oh, wait, in Hackney.
Yeah, in Hackney.
Oh!
Are you like a neighborhood fixture?
I guess.
You're in the pubs and the coffee shops.
Oh, I love the pub.
I'm in the pub like nonstop.
That's why, when I'm in America, that's what I crave.
I crave the pub so much.
I'm like, I need to go back into the pub.
You want a pie?
I don't want a pie.
But I do want the pub.
You want the pub?
I want a cider.
Yeah.
Do you want a cider?
I actually do.
I'm a hot toddy sort of fanatic.
Oh my God, love a hot alcoholic beverage.
100%.
Why don't they do mulled wine all year?
That's what I'm talking about.
This is a huge question.
I will always say, I do get a little nervous
about asking a bartender to do that
just because me being former industry,
I do know it's steps involved in creating the hot beverage.
What like boiling it?
Making it hot.
Sort of, I mean, it's like certainly there might be an area
where there's already hot water, but it's just,
there's the cloves. It's a dangerous cloves. There's the stick of cinnamon.
There is the lemon.
There is the, oftentimes you have to put the cloves
in the lemon if people take themselves very seriously.
Oh.
It says an art to it.
Certainly.
This preparation, there's art, there's et cetera.
Right.
But like, it's worth it when you get to the end of the rainbow.
Now, what if in theory you fall in love with someone here?
That's an interesting thought, actually,
which I haven't been thinking about.
Um, then I would just, I would just have to get to travel more.
She loves her life where she is.
I know. I'm just putting some hypotheticals out there.
We need to come more to you.
I think we should stop trying to give in to you to move here,
because let's be honest.
I would like to come here more, to be fair.
I feel like I could come once a month.
You're invited.
Well, you know, we need,
that's why we need to do more award shows.
We need to do more award shows.
We understand how to get you here.
Well, you have your own awards.
Yeah. Yes, it's true.
Do you want to be nominated?
You actually should.
Oh my God.
I feel like that's for some reason,
I'm going to say beneath you.
Yeah, I was going to say you need a bigger role
at the Culture Awards.
No, it's only beneath you at our show.
At our show, you know what I mean?
In every other capacity, it's like,
well, there's no one better.
But for us, it's like, you got to be on,
you got to be in the full thing.
Do you love award shows in general?
I think so.
Yeah, same.
I've always loved them, like growing up watching them,
like I love them. It's such. I've always loved them. Growing up watching them, I love them.
It's such a gag to go to them now.
Like, whenever, like, Bowen is nominated
for almost every award.
And so, but we get to go to a lot of stuff.
We're very lucky we get to go to stuff.
And it is like, it's wild when you are in the midst of it.
Because it's like, there everyone is.
Yes, and you get to meet so many people.
Like, so many people that you're a fan of their work
and you get to meet them and like talk to them and ah!
And it's love it and then it's so exciting who's gonna win.
Yeah.
Do you get nervous still with the celebrity of it all?
Have you now sort of reached a point where you've kind of met the biggest
and so it's now less daunting and they know who you are?
I don't really get nervous to meet celebrities.
And I feel like that's why I've like enjoyed this job
or maybe I'm good at it because I don't really feel
like I get starstruck that much.
But I do, I feel confident in the room
because I know I'm there for, I've got my job.
I'm there for a purpose.
I find it difficult when I go to events
where I'm not working.
100%. Because then I'm like, oh, God, I feel, that's when I feel like a bit more overwhelmed by it all.
Right. Yeah.
Like give me a job of purpose.
Yeah, like for example, last night, I was like, oh, okay, well, I'm here.
I'm doing the carpet.
Like I've got my SNL credentials.
Like this is incredible.
I feel like I should be here.
Whereas I think if I wasn't doing that, I'd be like,
what, why have I, what's happening?
And then also like, I wouldn't have been invited.
But anyway, yeah, that kind of makes me feel
a bit more confident.
But no, like I really do like meeting celebrities.
Well, what was the overall bounce on last night?
Yeah, what was the bounce?
Incredible.
Like just like, and the after party. Oh my God night. What was the... What was the... In the credible, like just like, ugh.
And the after party.
Oh my God, the venue was ginormous.
Sabrina Carpenter going up there and saying,
like a virgin.
And then Haim doing Mustang Sally.
Like truly it was one of those,
cause they're not always like that.
In fact, they're almost never like that.
No, they're never like that.
You think in your head,
the SNL after parties are going to be like that.
And then it's like, you get an event like this
and people were really going.
It was amazing.
It was amazing and it was ginormous.
And every single person there was like legendary.
It was, and everyone was like laying loose
and oh, it was just amazing.
And it went on so late,
it went on until like five in the morning.
We were there.
And then there we were.
And we had stayed.
And we had stayed, but I will say, I mean, like, we were saying that we were getting starstruck for the first
time in a long time.
Just like, because it was everywhere you turned, there was just someone like, wow, wow, wow.
I met Andy Samberg.
Isn't that a great moment when that happened?
I was actually really starstruck.
I was like, you are the godfather of like viral comedy.
Of you too. Yeah. And I'm like, you are the godfather of like viral comedy.
And I'm like, wow, an honor to be in your presence.
Were you like a Lonely Island fan?
Yes.
I was a huge Lonely Island fan.
I just don't...
I feel like when...
Every time they released a song, it was like there was nothing else in the world that was there.
It was only them.
You know?
I'll still listen to I'm On A Boat.
Yes.
T-Pain.
Oh my God.
I love him. Have you ever listened to his Tiny Desk? Actually, I think still listen to I'm On A Boat. Yes. T-Pain. Oh my God. I love him.
Have you ever listened to his Tiny Desk?
Actually, I think I did.
It's one of the best ones ever.
Excellent.
Like, no auto-tune.
Like, he has the best voice ever and it's just sublime.
And it was a while ago too.
It was ages ago.
It was like before it was like a thing.
It was before Tiny Desk was Tiny Desk.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, okay, this is the thing.
Lonely Island only won tour right before COVID.
And then COVID hit, I think.
But it's day two at all.
And it's like, I think we need to put the energy out there
that they need to go back on tour.
Cause it's like they-
That would be so fun.
Right, cause they were saying like,
it's so interesting like to hear our songs
being sung by a crowd.
Cause that was never the experience,
that was never why we put it out.
It was only for in service to like a comedy bit
or a sketch.
Like it is a surreal
thing to like do it in front of an audience. And I think they should, I wouldn't, we all
encourage them to do it.
That would be so fun because they could also do bits, like they could do sketches and stuff.
Of course.
Like with it, like they could do the music, it could be a whole comedy music extravaganza.
Yeah, it could be like what the concert on Friday felt like.
Yeah.
Which I loved because it was so in the spirit of SNL.
Like I loved Ana Gasteyer coming out as Martha Stewart to introduce Snoop.
You know what I mean?
Like I loved the like Bobby and Marty like thrown in there.
Like you know, it just, it felt...
And then by the way, just you were in the same row as me.
We had an iconic row.
We really had just the weekend together.
We did! We were bonded immediately.
Every day I've seen you.
I also think one of the reasons, well as you know,
that he's so talented as a musician, they all are.
And that's why it works.
That's why the comedy works is because they're actually so talented musicians.
And that's something you realize when, on Friday as well,
how beautiful everyone's voices are.
And how everyone's basically a musician in their own right.
But just study, like I,
so we shot this thing for the show on Sunday,
but we shot it on Wednesday and just like between takes,
we were just talking, chatting it up.
And I was just like, I just innocently asked him,
I was like, what are you listening to lately?
And then he like pauses and then like unfurls
all these things.
He's like, well, there's this Donnie and guy
who like does a lot of big band music.
And then there's Cindy Lee, this like drag artist
who like has a rock band and she released like
a two hour album that's like only available on YouTube.
And like that's been like, like,
and he just has such an expansive,
and like he knows all of his history back to like
the eighties and nineties of like hip hop and like jazz
and like funk and like he's just-
A genius.
Well that's why he and Joanna knew some work.
Yeah.
They're like, those are music heads.
Those are music heads.
That's so cool.
I mean, I saw him last night and I was just like,
again, the hook slapped.
The hook in that digital short that you were in.
And that was really fun.
It was so great.
It was just like, I was like, get damn.
I think that was so much more formative,
comedically, on like our generation.
Absolutely.
That anyone realizes. That all of Lonely Island's...
You got to tell him that he's the godfather
of like viral comedy.
That's amazing.
I'm sure he was very happy to hear that.
Yeah, it was really amazing.
We went upstairs.
And I'm going to say this, and I know he's listening.
That is one of the true beauties hunks of time.
Because you're always like,
yeah, I have a crush on Andy Samberg.
And then you see him and you're like,
I have a crush on Andy Samberg.
That face.
The bone structure.
You know, I remember like just when he came out
with his floppy hair, there's something about a goofy guy.
Oh God, they're the best.
Do you like funny guys?
Yeah, obviously.
No, I like unfunny guys.
Yeah, I like funny guys, but they're hard to find.
I just mean like, is it,
oh, so it's not a rap if they're not funny.
I think they have to make me laugh,
but I also want them to laugh at my jokes
and maybe that's more important to me
that they're laughing at me.
Yeah.
But then there's an implied self-made funniness in them
that has to like be present
for them to laugh at your jokes, you know what I mean?
Yeah, totally.
I do think I need a man with a sense of humor, 100%.
I feel like that's how I connect with anyone
is over a shared sense of humor.
But sometimes on your show, you are doing the legwork
of like, I'm gonna like really guide this
in a funny direction.
And like my guest is someone who like is going to have to just follow along with me.
But I think my favorite interview of yours is with Cher.
That was one of my favorite interviews because what I will never forget is you asking her,
what does it feel like to be an icon? And she goes, it doesn't feel like anything.
So profound.
It doesn't feel like anything.
And it was incredible.
She just has the most amazing lines to feed you back.
Like, she's just so great and so quick-witted, so confident.
Like, she was kind of the perfect guest.
What was that day like?
It was like, did you have the full, like, hour with her?
Yeah, the full hour, but we shot that in Paris.
It's the only episode I've ever filmed, like, in, out of the UK.
I filmed one in Scotland. But yeah, for Cher I had to.
And so we found a chicken shop in Paris.
And yeah, we were there and then she was kind of...
She was a little bit late, but that was totally fine.
I would have waited hours and hours.
But then I was like...
So I was then like pacing around in the chicken shop
because usually like I get there like half an hour before
I like go over my questions and then they're here.
And then because I was like waiting it was like,
oh my god, it's Cher. And then there were these two guys who were like
Hanging outside and I was like to the security I was like, can you tell those guys to like go away?
Like they I don't know why they're here and like we got them to like move and then when Cher came in the guys came in
With Cher and they were her like nephew
It was her posse who had told her to do the show.
The guys were like,
the reason she's here is because we were like,
you should do the show.
And five minutes later I was like,
those crepes off the chicken shop date stuff.
But anyway, yeah.
Yeah, because she had never watched the show.
And they had basically were like,
she only did one piece of promo, I think,
for like her Christmas album that.
And then she did chicken shop date. And they were like, you have to do it. And she just sat down and she were like, she only did one piece of promo, I think, for like her Christmas album. And then she did Chicken Shop Day.
And they were like, you have to do it.
And she just sat down and she was like, okay, cool.
What's happening?
And I was like, she just didn't really...
I don't...
She was perfect.
Did she eat a lot of chicken?
I don't think she ate, no.
Do guests...
No, but she said she does like chicken nuggets.
Or she said her boyfriend loves chicken nuggets.
Right.
She said she's been around a lot of chicken nuggets recently. I would imagine recently. Yeah, she was like, I've been around a lot of chicken nuggets. Or she said her boyfriend loves chicken nuggets. Right. She said she's been around a lot of chicken nuggets recently.
I would imagine like recently.
Yeah, she was like, I've been around a lot of chicken nuggets.
And my boyfriend and his friends love chicken nuggets.
Maybe there was some sort of festival where she lives.
A chicken nugget festival.
Chicken nugget festival in Paris.
That's probably the only option, yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, she's amazing.
I think she was there on Friday.
She should have done more than one song.
I was like waiting for more songs to come.
100 percent. She walked by me at my station
and she wasn't doing any interviews, I don't think.
Did you get her?
No, I didn't get her.
So, because I don't think she was doing any,
she walked by and all I could think to say was,
crushed it Friday.
And she goes,
she's going to give me a little nod.
Good one, crushed it.
Crushed it.
As per usual, Cher. Yeah, I love Cher.
What an icon.
My only interaction with her on Friday,
backstage at the concert,
because I was back there getting ready to intro Gaga.
Because you were...
And then Cher was up before me.
Isn't that crazy?
It's crazy at Radio City.
Cher was on just before me.
Just before me, but she was just as far away from me
as like that camera is.
And I'm like not, I can see her, I can sense her presence.
She's there.
I'm like truly collapsing into myself.
Like, God, I fucking love this person.
And she is like, you know, kind of just like in her space,
getting in her zone, like people are surrounding her,
like her team is surrounding her.
And I'm trying not to look at her,
but then I just glance up,
and then she's looking back at me,
and she smiles and just waves,
like the sexiest, most subtle little wave.
Mm. Wow.
And it like hit me like a lightning bolt.
Yep.
And then in that moment, I was like,
I know what I would say to Sharon,
but I'm not gonna say it, and I kind of am glad I didn't,
but I kind of regret that I didn't either.
This is what it would be.
You're funnier than any comedian.
You're more beautiful than any supermodel.
And you are more influential than any religious figure.
I love you.
And she would have said, I know, bitch.
BOTH LAUGH
Like, that's Cher!
That's Cher, bitch.
Oh, my gosh.
Unbelievable.
It's so great that we got to see so many,
all right, let's talk about Highlights from the concert.
Yeah.
["Highlights from the Concert"]
We're so done with New Year, New You.
This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists,
especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes.
More of you finding Geminis
because you know you always like them.
More of you dating with intention
because you know what you want.
And you know what? We love that for you.
Someone else will too.
Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Do you remember what you said
the first night I came over here?
How?
Goes lower?
I met Santi at a luau party in October.
I'm Santi.
Damien.
Oh, it was bizarre.
The guy just disappeared one day.
Santi has been missing ever since.
The hookup.
What is that?
I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now?
Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to...
The hookup.
You think it's causing people to turn aggro?
I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f-
Yeah that's a word for it.
This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry.
Poppers?
These aren't just any poppers. Mama always used to say,
God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex.
No, my psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either.
Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen
to your favorite shows.
Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough
to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse
and so many commercials about back pain.
And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys,
I don't feel the space is crowded enough.
Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast
about the wildest true escape stories in history.
Each week I'll be sitting down
with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians
to tell them a buckwild tale from across history and time.
People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero,
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Zoe Chow.
Titanic.
Charles Manson.
Alcatraz.
Asada Shakur.
The sketchy guy named Steve.
It's giving funny true crime.
I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.
Listen and subscribe to Greatest
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for the recently canceled.
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But don't worry,
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podcasts.
So like, this was another amazing moment for me yesterday.
I stopped down with someone and then I turned to my left
and it's Bonnie Raitt.
And I was like, oh my God.
And she looks up and she was like, I don't know.
Do you want to interview me?
I was like, what?
And then she was so like humble.
She was like, they're probably not going to air it.
I was like, Bonnie Raitt, get over here right now.
And then we just like had this like beautiful moment
because one of my favorite moments of that whole night
was I Can't Make You Love Me.
I said, do you know, this is one of those songs
where many people say it's their favorite song.
Yeah.
You know whose favorite song is?
Who?
Cher's.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was listening to her Desert Island Discs.
Do you know that show?
Yeah, yeah.
In the UK and she picked that as one of her favorite songs.
I get it.
She'd sound good on it too.
Yeah, Sher would do an amazing rendition of that.
Yes. I feel the power.
And I feel the power.
So, so beautiful and so sad and like that's why it's so perfect, like such a perfect song.
And Chris Martin was there.
Chris Martin was on the keys.
Who by the way is so funny.
So funny.
And so charming and amazing.
You talked to him on the show. No, I know he's not been on the show,
but I met him at the SNL after party.
That I, where I first met you at.
He was there, cause he was the performer that week.
And I was just like, wow,
I don't know why I just didn't think he would be so charming,
but he just so was and charismatic and brilliant.
So charismatic and brilliant.
But he was, we were at the Seaford restaurant
and he's at his table, eating out of a Tupperware,
like veggies and tofu.
Meal prepped.
That's the Gwyneth influence.
It's like, this is a health nut.
He really is. Wow.
And he looks good.
He looks good, yeah.
That was one of my favorite moments.
I mean, like, we were all so right.
Right there. In front of Post Malone singing with Nirvana. That was epic. my favorite moments. I mean, like, we were also right in front of Post Malone
singing with Nirvana.
That was epic.
That was crazy.
When he was smoking a cigarette,
and then he put a cigarette in his guitar.
I didn't miss that either.
That was incredible.
Oh my gosh.
Sort of effortless.
Something happened to me in that moment.
And also, you know, he's really found,
he's a tight jeans king, and he's bringing it back.
He's so tall. He's tall. Way taller than you think. Like, he's like six, he's a tight jeans king and he's bringing it back. He's so tall.
He's tall.
Way taller than you think.
Like he's like six foot three or something.
What do you think it is about people
that makes them seem like they're gonna be short?
I don't know.
Like, is it their like proportions of their like head?
Yeah, maybe that.
Or their, I don't know.
Well, he's very broad-shouldered.
He just doesn't look like he's really tall.
But he is. But he is.
But he is.
That's a fact right there.
I would like to go on a date with him.
So would I.
So would I.
You should get him on your show.
I am trying.
You are.
Who are the White Whales?
And then I want to hear your SNL 50 concert highlights,
but who are the White Whales?
Who are the people that you were like to like?
White Whales.
Never heard of that phrase before.
Like Moby Dick.
Who are the White Whales? Who are the people? Who are the White Whales? There's before. Like Moby Dick, who is like- Who are the white whales?
Who are the people?
Who are the white whales?
There's a book called Moby Dick.
I didn't read it.
Well, that was your first mistake.
Sorry.
It's really culture number eight.
If you haven't read Moby Dick,
that was your first mistake.
I hear it's an amazing book.
I've never read it before.
Oh, it's fabulous.
It's just thrilling.
It's really a thriller.
It's a thrill.
Okay, it's a page turner. But it's really about so much It's a thrill. It's a page turner.
But it's really about so much more than well.
And that's all I'll say about that.
It's a symbol.
So who's my Moby?
Who is your-
Who's my Moby Dick?
Who's your Moby Dick?
Yeah, who's your Moby Dick?
Moby, the singer.
Gaga.
Yeah, she would do it.
Would she?
She would absolutely do it.
Africa dance. It's just that.
How did you feel when you...
I don't know.
Well, I saw her last night, but obviously I didn't go up to her because what would I
say?
Nothing.
And yeah, I think Gaga would be epic.
I don't know.
Maybe someone like Larry David.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Well, so many people that I met last night. Like, Kristen Wiig is one of my comedy heroes.
And it was just a thrill to be able to speak to her
and to have her on the show.
And I would love to have some more comics on, actually.
But I actually feel with Chicken Shop Day,
I'm at a place with it where I feel like I've kind of achieved
everything I want to with the show.
I feel really content.
Like, everything, everyone now is just like a plus, really. Wow, I mean, I feel really content. Like everything, everyone now is like just like a plus really.
Wow. I mean, that's really great.
That's an amazing feeling that you are assured in
that you're like, this is great.
Like we did everything that we wanted to.
I really feel like that.
Like I feel like there's so many amazing, like so many episodes.
I'm like so, so pleased with like how, just how they've come out
and like just the energy of them
and like the type of people that I've got to me and our dynamic like I just feel like I've got what I need to from the show.
But yeah, but so everything now is just like it's just fun. It's always been fun.
How long have you felt like that? Was there an episode that like put you over the edge?
Well, for me, like the Louis Theroux episode was like a really amazing one because he he was like, for me, one of my heroes growing up.
Like I loved his documentaries so much.
And like his tone and his style like really kind of informed some of my awkwardness too.
And like my style.
And like when I was trying to get him on the show for years,
and then he basically was like, they never got through to him or something like that.
Oh, he said no.
And then finally, again, his children then told him to come on the show.
Which is the way it goes a lot of the time.
And then that episode was just amazing.
And then it kind of birthed this viral jiggle jiggle like song on TikTok.
And I just thought it just had everything in it that I wanted for the episode
and like to get someone that I've always wanted to.
And then from then I was like, okay, well, I've done what I want to.
But actually, no, I do always wanted to. And then from then I was like, okay, well I've done what I want to with this show.
But actually, no, I do actually need to keep going
with the show because I need to fall in love.
So when you're sitting down, are you actually feeling like
there's a little part of you that's like,
because you always, you do do the bit of, this is a date.
This is a date.
But I don't see why like I couldn't meet someone on the show.
No, you absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But obviously there are loads of cameras there and stuff
and people.
But I mean, this was part of the Andrew Garfield of it all
that I wanted to ask you about,
which is what did you feel about like all
of the attention around it?
Right.
Oh, well, and I was in LA at the time
and it was like fun to like be also in,
like I don't know, like not in London
and like be out and about and stuff.
But it was kind of amazing.
Like I just thought it was so cool that people were like...
People were booking meeting rooms in their offices to like watch it.
Like to so that they could all watch it together.
It was wild.
And like that was so amazing to have created that kind of...
That moment like with a YouTube show, you know?
Like people were like, it's an event.
Yeah, so that's what I loved so much about that episode
in particular about what it kind of made people feel
or the energy and like, yeah, that's what I just think.
It's just so fun to be able to create
like create those kinds of moments, yeah.
So let's say, let's work backwards from you fall in love
with someone that you meet on the show.
Yeah.
It's presumably someone who is a guest. Yeah.
Could be a crew member.
No.
An assistant?
No.
One of the guys, one of Cher's nephews.
No.
They're all gay.
Right, right, right.
Gay nephews.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
So, you fall in love with a guest.
Yeah.
It's like, you check in after you shoot the thing, right? Because it's like, is there a part of you that's like, when the cameras are rolling, it's like, you check in after you shoot the thing, right?
Because it's like, is there a part of you that's like,
when the cameras are rolling, it's like for entertainment,
for the show, but then afterwards, you're like,
I need to be one-on-one with this person.
Okay, this is why it's just never going to work out.
No, no, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying it can and it will.
We just have to be really intentional about this.
Are you going, you're like, you don't,
you're like, fuck these cameras,
I'm going to seduce this person.
No, because I would never do that.
So actually it's not going to work.
Well, I was meaning to ask you, I was like,
Amelia, how do you, you do have this natural,
and Cynthia Rivo said this,
like you have this natural capacity and this talent.
I call it a talent because I lack this, of flirting.
You flirt very well.
Yes, I do actually.
So then what's that about?
So that it can happen.
No, yeah, it can, but I go for the wrong people.
I go for the wrong people.
Oh, in life you go for the wrong people.
Do you find that like,
this style of flirting that you do on the show,
because you are a little bit of like, you do nagging.
Like, is that how you flirt in real life?
Yeah, totally.
Okay.
So you're not like emboldened by the cameras
to like be a little bit like this character?
No, no, no.
That's just my vibe.
That's just who you are.
Yeah, cause I don't know why I always just think that like
when I'm talking to guys, I'm always like,
I'm funnier than you.
No, it's power.
It's power.
So I'm gonna tell you.
But because when it's true.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just feel like that's just been my natural way.
But I also think maybe it's something about being British
and maybe like, I don't know, like from school
or like the guys I used to hang out with when I was growing up
who would be like so mean to you.
Like you then just have to like create this armor of like sarcasm.
Like then they just kind of stayed with me.
Right.
Well, let's say there's been a recent example of you
flirting with someone and successfully having it, you know, be a fun thing.
Let's walk through that. Let's break a recent example down.
Any recent example.
Of me flirting with someone.
And then we can all do the same.
Because I actually do want to self-examine a bit on this.
About flirts? Flirt style?
I identify as not a good flirter, but I think the three of us have successfully
courted someone.
Yeah.
I feel like you can tell when there's a chemistry,
I feel like kind of immediately with someone.
Yeah.
And so it is like a roll of the dice.
Yeah.
Like I think just like you meet someone,
you kind of, I don't know,
you just can sense it really from,
it's like an energy.
I think you just kind of know. Yeah. So once you sense it, you're like, okay, I'm in. Let's just, it, really. It's like an energy, I think. You just kind of know.
So once you sense it, you're like,
okay, I'm in, let's just...
Yeah.
Okay, great.
You're a pursuer at that point?
Well, I don't know.
I feel like when you meet people out,
it's kind of hard to meet people out.
But when you do, I think you just kind of like
gravitate toward each other,
and then you just start talking.
And then in your head while you're talking,
you can like sense, you're like, okay.
Something like clicks, I feel like you feel it.
And you're like, are we, is this, is this, are we,
is are we like flirting?
And then they're like, yeah, I'm married.
So that's what happens.
See, this is the problem.
That's literally every time.
I know.
But the thing is like with the gays,
it's like, this has happened to me a couple times
in the past few weeks.
I'll get asked on a full- on date and then I'll find out
like either hours before or on the date
that they fully have a boyfriend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is what you're saying.
Are you dealing with open guys sometimes?
No.
No, so I'm saying it's like a gay guy thing.
Where they're already in a relationship and they're open.
You have to tell someone if you're in a relationship
and you're asking to hang out.
People like to flirt.
People are bored and they like to flirt in their relationships.
I know so many people.
And also, like, is that about...
I don't know if that's about...
You can obviously still flirt when you're in a relationship.
Sure.
But like there's another...
Like leading someone on is like...
I mean flirting and then asking them full on out.
Oh yeah, going on a date, yeah.
Like I had someone one time tell me in the middle of things
after it was going really well.
I don't know how this is going to land, but I have a boyfriend. And I was well, I don't know how this is gonna land, but I have a boyfriend.
And I was like, you don't know how this is gonna land.
I was like, cause if this was a sex thing,
you had to say that beforehand,
cause there's things I had to do.
You know what I mean?
Like I had to make sure everything was deforested.
Of course.
Like there's things that need to go on, there's process.
You needed to weed whack.
A lack of respect for process.
You lost me. You lost me there.
If you have a lack of respect for process, that's rule of culture number 19. If you have a lack of respect for process, you lost me.
I was talking to a guy, same deal, but I knew going into it that he was married and whatever,
we were maybe planning the logistics of it. And then I just made an offhand comment
where I was like, and also, I don't know, like,
I might just be emotionally like in a different place
than you because there are just different stakes to this.
He was like, what do you mean?
What do you mean, what do you mean?
And he was being obtuse and I was like, you know,
like you are in a relationship and I am like,
not, I'm literally putting this in the calendar
because this is like the one window this week
where I can have relations
with someone.
And he was like,
I need you to explain this a little bit more.
I'm like, this, what are you talking about?
Like some of these guys play dumb with it.
But this is what I want to drill into is
because you're mentioning this moment of like,
are we, is this, are we?
Like that's the thing that is the blockage usually
where it's like, it's not cool to ask,
are we, is this, are we out loud?
I think it is.
I've, sometimes I have said, I was like,
should we kiss?
Yeah.
Should we kiss now?
And do you?
No, I feel like that's where I'm going wrong.
Well, this is my thing.
Don't do that, don't do that, it doesn't work.
Are we saying here as a trio,
like if you have to ask, then it's a bad sign? Sometimes't do that. Don't do that. It doesn't work. Are we saying here as a trio, like, if you have to ask,
then it's a bad sign?
Sometimes I do, though.
Like, sometimes you just kind of have to, like, say it,
because really you kind of have to be the confident one.
Of course.
And that's the thing is it's like, I think for me,
it reflects entirely on how I'm feeling about myself in a moment.
Like, if I'm feeling good about myself in a good mood,
I genuinely think I'll go up to anyone and, like, flirt with them. But that makes you feel alive. I'm feeling good about myself in a good mood, I genuinely think I'll go up to anyone
and like flirt with them.
But-
Flirting makes you feel alive.
I'm sorry.
You could have like, like if you're flirting,
it just makes you, you're just having a better time
than if you weren't.
I don't know.
Like it's so fun.
But if you're not feeling good about yourself though,
I think any situation I'm in where like,
I can feel like that's going somewhere,
I go right to like fear.
I'm like, no, no, no, I can't, I shrink.
And it's just so, I wish I felt powerful all the time.
You can't.
It's like, I don't know.
You just can't.
London summers, should we do Mighty Hoopla with you?
Would you come to Mighty Hoopla with us?
Are you going?
We went a couple years ago.
We had fun, I've never been.
It would be, you would be mobbed.
It would be, it looks, you would be mobbed.
It would be, it looks so fun.
It was a blast.
Yeah.
Oh God, that's so fun.
Yeah, who did you see?
We missed Kelly Rowland.
We missed Kelly Rowland.
They always have such fun performers.
Yes.
Yeah.
We saw-
Kelly Rowland?
Kelly Rowland, we saw Jake Shears.
Jake Shears.
Fun.
Who we love.
Saw-
Does Kelly Rowland do one love take?
Oh, you know she does.
Oh my gosh.
Yes!
She's got so many more gay anthems
than you're ready for.
Such a good one.
She's really great.
But she was on the Friday
and that was when we saw Beyonce.
So we were there.
Beyonce was at My Teabler.
No, no, no, Beyonce was in London
doing Tottenham the same weekend as Mighty Hoopla.
Renaissance is the same weekend as Mighty Hoopla.
And Kelly was doing Mighty Hoopla.
So there was just all these rumors being like,
Kelly's going to show up to Renaissance
or Beyonce is going to show up to Mighty Hoopla,
which was less likely.
That would have been iconic.
Would be iconic.
Mighty Hoopla.
That was me as Beyonce greeting that.
Mighty Hoopla.
What's that park in South London that it's at?
Brockwell Park.
Brockwell.
Is it? I don't know.
It's fun down there. Yeah, South London. I never go.
I never go, but it's like,
it's where all the cool people are.
No, it is. That's why I'm never there.
Yeah, no. Like London in summer is the best.
I think it's like the best time to come to London
is in summer.
Well, now I guess Beyonce,
it would be nice to go see Beyonce again.
That honestly was medicine for the soul.
100%.
Seeing Beyonce, like I was feeling in like a really rubbish head space
and I was like, I felt I was feeling so self-conscious about the way I looked
and all this stuff and then I went to the Renaissance and I was just like,
wow, it really like was a drug.
It was like a pill, a medicine for me.
Yeah, it was amazing.
You were at the party.
It was, yeah, it was amazing.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's ask Amelia the question.
Yeah, exactly. Let's ask Amelia the question.
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Do you remember what you said
the first night I came over here?
Ow, goes lower?
I met Santi at a luau party in October.
I'm Santi.
Damien.
Oh, it was bizarre.
The guy just disappeared one day.
Santi has been missing ever since.
The hookup.
What is that?
I'm solving a mystery through sex
and haven't made a private dick joke until now?
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The hookup?
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I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f-
Yeah, that's a word for it.
This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry.
Poppers?
These aren't just any poppers.
Mama always used to say,
God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex.
No. My psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either.
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And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys,
I don't feel the space is crowded enough.
Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true
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People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero,
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Zoe Chao.
Titanic.
Charles Manson.
Alcatraz.
Asada Shakur.
The sketchy guy named Steve.
It's giving funny true crime.
I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.
Listen and subscribe to Greatest Escapes
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Cancellation Island, stars Holly Hunter as Karen,
a wellness influencer who launches a rehab
for the recently cancelled.
In the future, we will all be cancelled for 15 minutes.
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But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.
Karen, where have you brought us?
Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last.
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Amelia DeMaldeburg, what is the culture that music is a culture is for me?
Mary Kay and Ashley Olsen.
Wow. Have we ever had anyone do that?
I was wondering if you have.
I don't think so.
But this is huge. What's their greatest work in your opinion?
Oh, wow. Okay.
Well, what movie? Oh, God.
I mean, we have to say a movie.
New York Minute.
No, no, no.
Oh, my God.
Underrated, though.
New York Minute, absolutely.
Holiday and the Sun.
Yes.
With Megan Fox. Sorry.
With Megan Fox.
Yeah. I mean, Winning London.
I mean, I love London. Obviously, I'm, I love, obviously I'm a London girl,
but maybe winning London wasn't my fave.
Our Lips Are Sealed, the one where they're in Australia.
The Challenge, do you remember that one?
I don't know The Challenge.
The Challenge was when they did The Challenge.
Sorry, it was like, you know,
They showed The Challenge.
They showed The Challenge.
The only way I've ever watched The Challenge
is on the American Ashi, The Challenge.
The Olsen twins did the challenge?
Well, they did like a movie where they were on the challenge.
I am, is the MTV show,
is there a British show called the challenge?
No, it's like they're like, I assume this is the show.
It's like you're in a pair
and you have to do loads of challenges.
Oh, like an Amazing Race kind of thing?
Yeah, maybe.
What was the sleepover series again?
The sleepover series.
Oh, yeah.
You're invited.
You're invited.
You're invited.
I don't know that one.
Oh, You're Invited.
That was Tom.
Was that TV series?
I don't know what it was.
I mean, you haven't even said-
Oh, they also had an animation.
Yeah, they had everything.
Yes.
You haven't said Passport to Paris.
Passport to Paris!
Yeah.
Oh, Passport to Paris!
Passport to Paris was huge for them, I think.
Yeah.
Just like so epic.
Like, I'm sorry, but just,
I just wanted to live their life so badly.
I feel like so much of like,
why I feel like I'm such an overachiever
is because I grew up on Mary Kay and Ashley.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they were like the biggest overachievers in the world.
Like there was nothing that they couldn't do.
People forget, there was two of them.
So they split their empire.
They both had, you know what I mean?
It's true, but still like, still they like did the work.
I mean, absolutely.
No one can say they didn't.
And they still are.
Okay, this is the thing that's crazy.
They are the coolest girls still.
They are always pushing culture forward still with The Row.
And just-
Do you own The Row pieces?
No.
They're about a million dollars each.
Are they?
Aren't they expensive?
But they last and they're good quality.
Bo has the row.
You do?
Okay, yeah.
I mean, everyone loves the row.
Bo has the row.
Like, people like, really cool people wear the row.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and they're just,
they're just like little tiny little chain smokers.
They're just so cool.
The one of them, I forget which one it was.
It might've been Mary-Kate or Ashley.
At the wedding, at the wedding?
They had a wedding,
their wedding had a bulls of cigarettes on every table.
Yeah, so she said yes.
Famously.
Yeah, I'm always trying to think though,
who am I more like, Mary-Kate or Ashley?
Like, I just remember.
You're both.
What is the distinction though?
Can you break down Mary-Kate and Ashley?
I don't know, because they would always change characters
in their movies.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, sometimes Mary-Kate would be like the uptight one,
and then sometimes it would be Ashley,
and you could like never really know.
They would just always.
Yeah.
A complete unknown.
Yeah, truly.
Yeah, too complete unknown.
But yeah, no, I just, I just, yeah, two of them.
Oh, and then they've got the other sister, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth, who by the way is my favorite actress.
Oh, wow.
One of the best actresses.
You see, they're just incredible.
Have you ever watched, I mean, obviously WandaVision,
but have you ever seen Ingrid Goes West?
No, no.
You would love this movie.
Oh wait, is it about the-
Auburn Plaza.
Auburn Plaza, yes I have seen it.
And it's a stalker, like stalker situation
with the social media.
It's such a bold, great, like interesting movie
about a dynamic like that,
that like really pushes it and goes there,
and then ends in such a weird question mark.
Dark funny way.
Dark funny way.
Like it's truly, I just miss dark comedies like that.
You know what I just watched again?
And we saw Matthew Broderick last night
and I told him this.
Election.
Election.
Yeah, so good.
Never seen it.
Oh.
You would love Amelia, it's your kind of movie.
Really, I should watch it.
Reese Witherspoon is in a way like the Olsen girl
of her time, of her microgeneration.
You favor Reese Witherspoon.
I love Reese Witherspoon.
Oh, you think I look like her?
I do.
Okay, I love that, she's beautiful.
Elle Woods.
Elle Woods, oh!
Elle Woods.
You have an Elle Woods quality about you.
Really, about so nice.
And I mean that as the highest compliment.
Of course it is, she's an accomplished lawyer
and dog person.
Dog person.
You know that they're doing, so you-
They're doing another one.
The prequel.
Yes, they are, but check out Election,
because it's one of Reese's best performances.
And whenever anyone is like forgetting
that Reese can do dark, I'm like,
can you just go watch literally anything
from the first half of her career?
Like Pleasantville, she's like so deliciously bitchy in it
and like she plays this turn so well
of like waking up to that.
But Tracy Flick, her character in Election.
What's the premise of the film?
So the premise is basically it's a high school
and Matthew Broderick is a social studies teacher
and there's a girl in class, Tracy Flick,
played by Reese Witherspoon, who's like an overachiever,
very Mary-Kate or Ashley, depending on the movie vibe.
And so she drives him nuts.
And basically she has an affair,
I mean, with a teacher that's his friend,
and he gets obviously kicked out of the school.
And so Matthew Broderick's character grows
to like really resent this girl
who's running for class president unopposed.
So he encourages a popular jock student to run against her.
She goes crazy, like because she's like not supposed to lose.
And it's like a sort of political satire taking place in this high school.
And they did a sequel to it called Tracy Flick Can't Win.
Tom Perot wrote a second book like years and years later.
And they're doing it.
Alexander Payne is supposed to do it.
They're getting the script together.
I didn't know that.
She's supposed to do it.
She's producing it too.
Oh, Reese is producing it.
Yes.
That's the buzz.
Criterion collection.
Yeah.
It's like, it's one of those movies where you're just like,
it's undeniable.
I think you would love it.
Okay, I'm definitely gonna watch it.
Yeah. Tonight. Tonight. It actually would be a great movie for tonight. Great movie where're just like, it's undeniable. I think you would love it. Okay, I'm definitely gonna watch it. Yeah. Tonight.
Tonight.
It actually would be a great movie for tonight.
Great movie where it's like, you know what?
I went out last night.
Yeah, but I still wanna watch something good.
I wanna watch something I'm awake for,
I have to think about, but it's not gonna like scare me
or like, you know.
Perfect.
Drive me nuts.
I can look at my phone every 20 minutes or so.
If I wanted to.
Adapted screenplay Oscar nominee.
That's right. How excited are you? I or so. If I wanted to. Adapted screenplay Oscar nominee. That's right.
How's it a pain?
I love awards.
You really love awards.
I was like a gold Derby kid.
Okay, we're going to the Oscars for the first time.
Yes, oh my God.
What's, what's, what are your tips?
Don't wear a train dress.
Okay.
You know, like a long dress with a train.
And then you, sorry.
I've seen what he's wearing.
It's a stupid support suit. It has no train. Because that was a nightmare for then you, sorry. I've seen what he's wearing. It's a stupid.
It's a poor GIO.
It has no train.
Because that was a nightmare for me when I went.
And like, yeah, that was a nightmare.
I would say eat something before,
but then also afterwards at the governor's ball,
there's like the most amount of food in the world.
Like ever.
And there's like every single kind of food
you could ever have, but like in a miniature version.
And then they also have gold, gold Oscars made out of chocolate.
I love tiny food.
Which you can take for your family,
like take a two-load back to London for my dad.
You're so sweet.
Yeah, I like my whole suitcase is filled with it.
Your dad is adorable, by the way.
I'm sorry, is that so patronizing?
He's so wonderful, he seems like such a charming man.
Yeah, he is so sweet.
Both my parents are so cute.
And you're very close with your sister as well. Yeah, really close to my sister. Yeah, he is so sweet. Both my parents are so cute. That's lovely.
And you're very close with your sister as well.
Yeah, really close to my sister.
Yeah, we work together and we're just like,
we used to live together then we had to separate
because it's too much.
Well, yeah.
Also twins, kind of also twins vibes.
Very also twins vibe, actually.
We were very similar in age.
We're only one year apart.
So it's kind of like giving,
it's giving Mary Kay and Ashley.
Very that.
Who's who?
Depends on the movie.
I mean, I'm sorry.
We've been over this. Depends on the movie. I'm sorry, we've been over this.
Depends on the movie.
So yeah, so we'll have to see.
We'll have to really see.
To be continued.
To be continued.
Now were you a Full House first person?
Did they have Full House in the UK?
They probably did on some random channel,
but I didn't watch it.
Oh, so you weren't introduced to them when we were.
Well, actually, I guess you didn't have television cable.
No, but Full House was a thing in Canada, for sure.
I found out about them through Billboard Dad,
I think was the first thing, Billboard Dad.
Billboard Dad.
What was the one where they were living in like,
it was like, they were in like Miami beach or something,
and they lived in like what looked like essentially a hotel.
I think that one.
No, their dad wasn't Steve Guttenberg.
I'm getting that mixed up with their iconic film,
It Takes Two.
It Takes Two is, yes.
Have you seen It Takes Two?
Yes, I've seen It Takes Two.
With Keir Siali?
Yep.
We're naming off so many movies.
So many movies.
Are we in retrospect a little bit like, fuck,
I mean, what was their life?
They were just working these kids to the fucking bone.
Yeah, so true in a way.
And, but now, but they seem to,
I feel like they love to work because they,
you wouldn't run a fashion brand if you didn't love to work
because that's like one of the hardest jobs in the world.
But also, what were you gonna say? Sorry.
No, but they love-
But also like they are so like,
we don't want to be seen at all.
So cool.
Like that's the reactionary thing to like
being in show businesses at that young age.
And I also feel like they're in a way like the precursor
to like the modern day influencer that we have now.
Absolutely.
Because like Mary Kay and Ashley's movies for me
was like how I feel like people now
when they're watching Alex Earl
or like all these other influencers
because you wanted like you want to watch
someone's really fun life where they're like
going out to parties, they're kissing boys,
they're like putting on makeup and stuff.
But like I watched that through Mary Kay and they're like putting on makeup and stuff.
But like I watched that through Mary Kay and Ashley,
but like that was obviously fictionalized.
Like that's what I loved about it was because I felt like I was like
getting a door open into like their world, which I thought was real.
And now we do have that now, but it is, well, it's kind of real to a point,
but you have that with influencers, I guess.
But you're touching on something so huge, which is that like when we were growing up
or when we were like impressionable youth,
like we knew it to be a fantasy.
And now it's like, it's hard to tell for a lot of people.
It's true.
And people probably do are watching people on TikTok
and thinking, oh my God, this is like their actual life.
Not realizing that like so much of it is still staged
and like, not staged in that sense,
but like, you know, like heightened
or like the things that you decide to include in the things you choose not to.
Right.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's a bit more, yeah, difficult for young people
probably to get their head around it.
But that saying that, I honestly did think that
Mary Kay and Ashley lived that life.
I literally thought that.
I was like, oh, they obviously are like jetting off
to the Bahamas.
Right.
They're going to like kiss those boys in Paris.
Like they are doing that.
They really were all over the world.
They were Mrs. Worldwide.
Yeah.
People watch out.
Miss and Miss Worldwide.
Little Miss Miss Miss and Miss Worldwide.
That's actually roller culture number 14.
Mary Kay and Ashley were Miss and Miss Worldwide.
Little Miss Miss Worldwide.
Little Miss Miss Worldwide.
You know they never did really Little Miss Miss Worldwide.
Is not a no or Amelia, what was it?
I think a Nora 2 Amelia has a point,
but, and I would like to see it,
but wait, they never grew up on camera though,
you know what I mean?
Like they did New York Minute,
and then it was kind of like, you know what?
You guys don't get to see us encounter drugs and alcohol.
You guys actually don't,
you don't get to see us get a horny feeling, no.
And I think it's because A,
probably they were fed up at that point,
but B, people are so uncomfortable whenever that happens
with anyone they're watching as a kid.
Like think about, like now it's so crazy
because Miley Cyrus is like a beloved American treasure,
four quadrant, mom's, dad's, brother's quadrants, moms, dads, brothers, sisters,
everyone loves her, the gays, everyone.
But she was derided.
Of course.
100%.
For like, you know.
Just growing up, being sexual.
Yeah, it's the Britney thing, it's the, yeah.
It's all of them.
And Mary Kate and Ashley didn't even participate in that.
They were just like, we're actually, no.
You got everything you're getting from us.
Yeah, cause you're going to be judged as a young woman in the limelight
if you're showing all of these different sides to your personality
or just figuring stuff out on camera or whatever.
And yeah, they just basically were like, goodbye, close the door.
They just skipped straight to dating like an older French guy.
Yes, they did.
Was he like in politics or something?
Or something like... Which one's a billionaire?
Some, like they have a very, yeah, they've got,
yeah, interesting men in their lives.
This has been on my to-do list,
but like a dating pros and cons list.
Have we done this exercise?
Dating pros and cons.
What do you mean?
Like for...
Like things that you're like,
he needs to be at least these things. French billionaire. French billionaire. Right, and so you mean like for? Like things that you're like, he needs to be at least these things.
French billionaire.
French billionaire.
Right, and so you're like,
well, does he have to be a billionaire?
No, evil.
Does he, no, of course.
I'm just saying like-
He can be a multi-billionaire.
I just want-
Someone to buy me dinner.
Really?
And that's a test.
No, no, well, I realized my bar is really low. I need to raise it. Yeah, and this live in this moment, I was? And that's a test. No, no, well I realize my bar is really low,
I need to raise it.
Yeah, and this live in this moment,
I was like, that's it?
Yeah, no, it's actually sad.
Less funny than me, so that I can feel better.
But at least, buy dinner.
And buy me dinner.
We can buy me dinner.
That's actually, there's people.
Yeah, there's some people.
There's some people for that.
Is there anything that like everyone else
would consider a positive that you consider a negative when dating someone?
Totally.
Everyone considers a positive.
Like, honestly, you know what drives me kind of nuts?
Like, not—politeness doesn't drive me crazy,
because I actually do like to know that the person really likes me,
but I don't like to feel like things are careful or like too kind.
Yeah.
For me, there needs to be like some edge. Yeah. Like, I need to feel like things are careful or like too kind. For me, there needs to be like some edge.
Like I need to feel, and not like I've had a really nice time.
Don't tell me you had a really nice time.
Make out with me on the street.
That's how I feel.
Not in the day though.
I'm against the wall.
I've done that.
Oh God.
See, that's what's so great about,
that's why when you come to New York
and you start dating here,
and I bet it does give that in East London, to be honest,
but very...
I'm on the East side where you are.
It's exactly that. Yeah. Wow.
I need to feel...
I've been transported back to the streets of London.
Is it cool that I stand on?
Is it true that you're in my head?
Is it true that, like, in New York, everyone's dating all the time?
Like, multiple people?
Because that's what people say about New York.
Really? When you're dating someone, it's usual that they'll be, like multiple people. Cause that's what people say about New York. That like when you're dating someone,
it's normal, it's usual that they'll be like dating
numerous other people like, like all the time.
They say don't do that,
but I think it happens all the time.
Of course. I do it.
The New York thing, I'm curious if this is the same in London,
the New York thing is everyone thinks that they can do better
than the person they're with.
Yep. On some level.
I feel like that's a thing now, just in like society,
you think, because you've got too many options.
It's literally like, it's like browsing through Netflix.
It's like, well, let me keep looking,
because there's some...
I'm like at about a six or a seven in terms of watching this show about,
you know, like, this documentary that's like, I'm kind of interested,
but I'm sure there's something that's going to take me over the edge.
And you just keep... It's online shopping. It's like... I'm kind of interested, but I'm sure there's something that's gonna take me over the edge and you just keep, it's online shopping.
It's like-
It's immediacy culture.
It's the instant gratification that we're so used to
that makes us swipe, swipe, swipe away from like
these actual things.
Do you guys know the Muslim matchmaker?
Yes, and she says focus on one partner.
She says focus on one person.
The illusion of choice is just that, an illusion.
It's like, you're not giving someone a chance.
If you are thinking about two or three other people,
even like later on in the week, whatever,
you also will be less attentive to them.
You're going to find yourself going on a date being like,
now is this the one with the two older sisters?
You know what I mean?
And it's like, that's crazy.
I know.
No, I've caught myself in that for sure.
And to quote Natalie Portman, I've been you.
Is it closer?
Oh, I love that film.
Great movie.
It's one of the great films.
So good.
It was a play, was it a play first?
It was a play first.
I love a play.
Like, I love like, sorry.
I love, I'm not even inspiring now.
I love movies that feel like plays.
I love them too, but people knock that for some reason.
I like that.
Well, a common criticism is it felt stagey or it felt like a this.
I'm like, what's bad about a long scene?
Hello, watch the movie Doubt, the scene with Meryl Streep and Viola Davis.
Yeah, yell at me that it's stagey.
I love that film.
What, you hate people acting at each other?
Get out.
Get out.
Get out of here.
Get out of here, I say.
Wait, get American accent.
Thanks.
Yeah?
You've been told that.
No, I haven't.
Sorry, that messed up now.
That was really good.
My agent keeps trying to get me to do auditions
in an American accent and I'm like, I can't.
Do you have acting ambitions?
I would like to, yeah.
Okay, we're gonna write something for you.
Yeah. Oh, please. We'll take care of you have acting ambitions? I would like to, yeah. Okay, we're gonna write something for you. Yeah.
Oh, please.
We'll take care of you.
We'll take care of you.
You don't have to argue with me ever again.
Wait, I see something for Amelia.
Same.
For sure.
No, like we're, yeah.
Sorry, we're being so annoying.
We're being so fucking annoying.
And we're being such bitches.
Bitches.
You literally look like bitches, doobas.
Wait, I did an impression of you
last night on the carpet, right?
What did I say again?
You said, oh, I love Andrew Garfield.
No, I said, I said, Andrew Garfield loves me.
He's obsessed with me.
Andrew Garfield's obsessed with me.
Have you spoken to him since all that?
Or did it start a friendship?
Yeah, I would say we're friends.
That's good.
Yeah, I would say we're friends.
No, he's so nice.
Of course.
He seems lovely.
Sweetheart.
Okay, but I still don't want to finish this conversation about the potential of falling
in love on the show for you.
Yeah, okay.
I feel like I might meet someone on the show, but then once I end the show, then maybe I
bump into them at a party and then that's how it would work.
That's when it's on.
Yeah.
That's how I realistically feel like it would work.
That sounds really right.
Rather than like the day after we film, I'm like, so...
So we're going up now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Does a guest ever hit you up after, you don't have to say who,
but did a guest ever hit you up after like in an actual way?
No.
No?
Fucked up.
No.
It's actually fucked up.
It's actually fucked up.
But you know what?
You know what sucks about your show?
You don't have any gay guys on.
I'm trying.
I'm trying. Well, you were on our show. I'm trying. I'm trying.
Well, you were on our show.
I'm trying.
What do you mean you're trying?
Who are you trying?
You're trying to get John C. Bailey.
Yeah.
Oh, who was not?
Is he not?
No, no, no, no, no, who was not John?
I said who was not John?
He was supposed to do our show.
Was he?
Yeah.
And then there was just double bookings.
It was a double booking.
It was a double booking.
No, and it's my fault.
Oh, it's your fault.
It's fine.
That one had to do Kelly Clarkson
at the time we were originally scheduled.
And that is literally the only thing I would allow.
I feel like I have had a gay person on.
Well, you've had a gay person on,
you haven't had a gay man on.
Because I feel like you think
that you can't flirt with the person.
But let me tell you something,
just me and you in a room with chicken,
you're gonna feel something.
Well this is a blind spot for me,
and actually I need to get more gay men on the show.
Thanks.
I just wanted to open that door.
Your work isn't over.
No, thank you for highlighting that.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I'm gonna do more.
Sometimes it's easier to flirt with girls.
I love flirting with girls.
Well you are, who do you,
Bowen's like a little bit, yeah, straighter than me.
Isn't that, does that surprise you?
You are straight, yeah.
I'm, yeah.
Yeah.
We talked about this.
Yeah, you and Sydney Sweeney.
Yeah, vibes.
You, Gina Gershon, you and Sydney Sweeney, you and-
Wait, you guys are leading people on, actually.
You've probably had, well, you've probably had,
people have probably gone to their friends,
like I had the most amazing conversation with this guy.
He was talking to me all night.
This guy.
He was talking to me all night.
And then turns out, he's gay!
You know, I actually, someone gave me their phone number
when I worked at Ulysses years ago.
A girl was like, gave me her phone number on a napkin.
Like it was a rom-com.
And I was like, I don't...
A girl gave you her phone number on a napkin.
I didn't even try to act like anything other than myself.
And I was like, am I straight passing?
Perhaps.
The answer is no, for a chance.
Really, she couldn't even answer it.
Wait, sorry, what was the question?
Am I straight passing?
Oh, sorry, I didn't hear that.
Sorry, I'm literally...
We're so tired.
So I've actually like got turned a corner now or I'm like, I actually thought I was going so tired. So I've actually like got turned to corn an hour.
I'm like, I actually thought I was going to throw up
before I came into this room.
Do you vomit when you're hungover?
Yeah.
You do?
Did you vomit last night?
No.
Good.
So that means like it's backed up.
It's coming up.
It's coming up.
It's coming up.
It's coming up.
It's there.
Do you know that song?
What's that?
What is that?
I don't know.
Good singing ambitions. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Do you have singing ambitions?
Yeah, yeah, I can't, clearly.
What was the question?
When I'm around a British person,
I ask a question like this.
It's so much funner.
It's so much more fun to ask it like that.
It's a way...
Say what?
Do you have singing ambitions?
Do you have singing ambitions?
That wasn't a British accent.
But it's not an accent, it's the inflection.
It's the inflection, Amelia.
It's like, in America, you ask a question like this,
and in the UK, you ask a question like this.
Yes, so true. You know. It's like in America, you ask a question like this, and in the UK, you ask a question like this.
Yes, so true.
You know.
You are not straight person.
That's a question.
That's a statement.
That's a statement.
You don't think I'm straight person.
It isn't more like, but.
You say it like, soapy.
Hello.
Hello. Okay, we gotta get you out of here. We all gotta get out of here. You say it like, so be it. Hello. Hello.
Wow.
Okay, we gotta get you out of here.
We all gotta get out of here.
No, I don't fucking understand this.
What time is it?
It's 4.39.
My girl was 10 late.
Oh, stop it.
No, she wasn't.
Drag an ass down the street.
Yeah, I was actually.
Sorry that I was getting stopped to ask for photos.
Were you actually?
Well, you are incredibly recognizable.
And I'm also just, yeah, well, am I?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think, I think.
Also, I think people think, people think I'm approachable.
I am approachable, but like, I think because of the show,
it's like people are more likely to come up
if you're doing something in comedy.
I feel like you probably get this the same thing.
100%, for sure.
You probably have all the time.
It's lovely though.
It's so nice.
I always just think like, there's so many,
it's a privilege to get people to come up
and say that they like your work.
When so many people are in jobs
where they're never thanked for what they do,
their boss never tells them they're doing a good job.
And we literally get people being like,
good job, you work.
Thank you for doing that.
Yeah, it's so nice.
It is lovely.
Very, very nice.
That's a beautiful perspective.
Yeah, it is.
Do you have your Oscars dress?
Not yet.
You gotta get on that.
Yeah.
Do you have a color?
No. Okay. Which I don't know what I'm wearing yet. You gotta get on that. Yeah. Do you have a color? No.
Okay.
Which I don't know what I'm wearing yet.
I don't know what I'm wearing.
Will you be dressed?
I hope so.
Yeah, nice.
I better be.
Can I say one of the number one things I look forward to
when you're gonna be somewhere
is what you're gonna be wearing.
You always look amazing.
Oh, that's so nice.
Thank you.
You have such amazing fashion sense.
You went to school for fashion journalism?
Yes, I studied fashion journalism at St. Martin's.
And yeah, I always wanted to work at Vogue.
That was like my ambition.
I see it.
Yeah, I wanted to be editor of Vogue.
Still time.
There is still time.
There is still time.
Well, but not now.
And then, yeah, when I was studying fashion journalism,
I kind of realized I was more interested
in like pop culture as a whole.
Yeah.
And kind of, and then I was doing Chicken Shop Day at the same time,
like while I was at university.
And then just like Chicken Shop Day, I just focused on that.
But yeah, I've always loved fashion.
And like I just find fashion history and like...
Yeah, fashion journalism is like a gateway into like culture as a whole anyway.
Everything is so connected.
Everything is so connected.
Everything is so connected.
Well, it's a specific window.
It's like, it's the entry point into the broader scope of cultural.
Yeah, whether it's, yeah, whether it's from,
even from politics to business.
To music. To like music,
to like identity, like, to everything.
You're Bradcoded right now.
Am I?
Well, always.
I've got a meshed back.
Oh, right. That's why.
Yeah, his back is meshed.
Is it? Well, just for some more air.
Just for ventilation, of course. Okay, I love that. I love that. Thanks. Yeah, his back is messed. Is it? Well, just for some more air. Just for ventilation, of course.
I love that.
I love that.
Yeah, he's black-coated.
You know, just a little bit.
Always.
And my shoes.
Well, you had Charli on, didn't you?
Oh God, I love Charli.
She's the coolest, the best person ever.
So talented and like, it's just, oh God.
Down to earth.
So down to earth and so amazing, so funny, so brilliant.
But yeah, like watching her perform is just like such a joy.
Like every time I see her live,
I've seen her perform so many times now.
And it's just, I'm just so blown away by,
I think it's also when you know someone, like as a friend,
and then you see them on stage and you're like, what?
You're like, oh my goodness.
Like, how do you do that?
I just think it's, and she's so physical on stage too.
Like what she does with her, like her movement
and everything, it's like, wow,, wow, I'm in awe of her.
She's amazing.
Yeah, I loved her episode with you guys.
I know.
She had a great episode.
I think it was one of my favorite.
It was a viral moment.
It was, I'm not-
Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm bitchy.
But I can be a bitch.
I can't even quote it.
What?
Neither would I.
I don't think, no.
What did she say? I'm not a bitch. I'm not. I don't think, no, what did she say?
I'm not a bitch.
I'm not?
I can be bitchy, but I don't know if I'm a bitch.
Right?
There is a distinction.
That is the big distinction.
We're pulling our own.
That was a good moment.
You know what's crazy?
That was a great moment.
I'm not really on TikTok.
You neither.
And so like, I didn't know it was a viral sound
until well after it had been. It's probably the best. Yeah. No, it, I didn't know it was a viral sound until well after it happened.
It's probably the best.
Yeah.
No, it's fun.
It's fun to go viral.
Yeah, certainly.
You would know.
Must be nice.
Must be nice.
And Andy, a good friend.
My good friend, Andy Samberg.
Oh my God.
You should have him on.
I would love.
Yeah.
You guys would, Sparks would be flying.
I would love that.
What if you home-racked?
What if I home-racked?
I don't want you in your homewrecker era.
They'll be so unkind online.
No, I know.
And it's not for me.
I don't want to be on the Reddit.
Exactly.
On the Reddit thread.
No, you don't.
No, please.
You want to be on snark subs or whatever.
Okay.
It's time for another thanks, Sony.
God.
Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes.
More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them.
More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
And you know what?
We love that for you.
Someone else will, too.
Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Do you remember what you said the first night
I came over here?
Owl goes lower?
I met Santi at a luau party in October.
I'm Santi.
Damien.
Oh, it was bizarre.
The guy just disappeared one day. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre.
The guy just disappeared one day.
Santi has been missing ever since.
The hookup.
What is that?
I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now?
Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to...
The hookup.
You think it's causing people to turn aggro?
I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f-
Yeah, that's a word for it.
This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry.
Poppers?
These aren't just any poppers.
Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex.
No, not my psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either.
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Did you have something?
Have you had-
Yeah, I've got something,
but I don't know whether I'm going to be able,
I just need to get my energy up.
Let me have a sip of water.
I'm having coffee and-
Seven and a half, seven and a half.
Wait, do you guys drink coffee?
Yeah, do you?
I can't.
Why?
I can't, it makes me go insane.
Does it not make you insane?
I thought you were gonna say something else.
I thought you were gonna say it makes me go shit.
It does, yeah.
It makes me poo.
And do you say poo in America?
In Canada, we would say poo more than poop.
He's probably more likely to say poo than me.
We said poo in Canada, but now more American.
I spend more time in the States, it's poop.
Poop. Okay. Poop.
Okay.
It's poop.
See, I don't like poop either.
I have to say,
poop is bad.
You know what?
I'm running.
Okay.
This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
The word poop.
There's nothing worse,
worst letter in the alphabet by far.
P, I'm sorry, I can lose it.
There are so many better, and also not for nothing,
but there's enough Peters, there's enough Patricks,
there's enough Poles.
It's like, let's get more creative.
Let's explore the letter Q, okay?
How about more Quintins and Quentins in the world?
But back to poop, here's what I don't like.
That letter I hate, at the end,
you have to say it not once but twice.
Let's not even get into what we're talking about
when we say the word, fecal matter.
I think that fecal matter,
there's one time that Bowen and I wrote a piece,
we wrote a show, and he wrote a line,
it was the funniest thing I ever heard, he said, you are a vile fecal woman.
And I said, calling someone fecal
and talking about feces is better than poop.
Grow up and say shit, grow up and say-
Five seconds.
Shart, not poop.
I'm so hungover.
And that's one minute.
Wow.
That was quite searing.
That was really, that was serious.
But I do want to say for context,
the line, you vile fecal woman,
was in response to your character taunting me
by saying that you had eaten my husband's ass out.
You vile fecal woman.
So that was just context.
I'll never forget your line reading.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I was like, I was eating your husband's ass last night.
He said, you vile fecal woman.
No, that's good.
Owen's a wonderful writer.
He's away with the quill.
Away with the words.
I didn't get to say this.
It's really the fact that it's like poop.
It's the poop.
Poop is cute.
I don't think so at all.
I was gonna say poo is cute.
Poop is cute.
No, poo is like you're dancing around it.
Oh, P-O-O is cute.
P-O-O is cute.
And also it looks cute, poo.
But poop is a palindrome.
A what? Spelled the same way as it is back.
Oh, love that.
A new word today.
A new word today?
Yeah.
All right, Matt's got his sunglasses on.
I left the building.
Actually, you've inspired me.
Yeah?
I'm not gonna do a letter, I'm gonna do something else.
Okay.
Yes.
So this would be our lucky day.
Because it's Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey.
His time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey, the number nine.
What are you giving?
Prime number, squared number,
that's all you have going on.
That's all you will ever be.
Let's go through them.
One, amazing, iconic.
Two, amazing, iconic.
Three, one of the most important numbers,
the rule of three.
Four, I like.
And Beyonce.
Four, great Beyonce album.
Five, really important, you need the halfway to 10.
You really need that as a benchmark in accounting system.
Six, I like.
I love six.
Seven, oh, name a prettier number than seven.
Eight, I love eight.
You eight.
You eight.
Nine, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Nine, what are you giving us?
You might as well be 10.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
What are you doing nine?
You're pussy footing around 10.
I think you should nut up.
Five seconds.
And go up to 10 or go down to eight
because that's a prettier number
or you might as well be seven because nothing beats seven.
That's one minute.
Wow.
Now, why was six afraid of seven?
Why?
Because seven ain't nine.
And because nine is, nine can only be eaten
and nine will never eat.
I think they wanted to eat nine
because nine's delicious, quite frankly.
I love nine.
I feel bad for nine at this point.
I feel really bad for nine.
Why?
Why do you feel like you need to defend nine? Because you think it's catching strays and did nothing to deserve it. Yes, I love nine. I feel bad for nine at this point. I feel really bad for nine. Why? Why do you feel like you need to defend nine?
Because you think it's catching strays
and did nothing to deserve it.
Yes, I think so.
Do you have nine in your sort of date of birth or anything?
Is there any meaningful number?
No, absolutely not.
Excuse me, 1989?
Oh, 1994.
Yeah, hello.
Oh, sorry, yeah.
I'm born in 1990.
I'm made of the stuff.
1999, what about the movie Nine?
Love!
Ugh, get out.
So you've seen that?
So you've seen one film.
So you've seen a movie.
You know that I saw Nine twice in theaters.
I know that about you, yeah.
I do know that one.
Who do you identify with from Nine?
The one, who's, she's got a famous mom.
Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson.
Same! You two? Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson.
Same!
You two are Kate Hudson.
Literally when I saw Kate Hudson at nine,
I was like, I finally saw myself on screen.
Wow.
Yeah.
The reporter with like a fucking huge piece in her hair.
The hair was really giving.
Cinnabar in italiano.
So good.
Just like throwing ass in that.
Is it a remake? Is it a remake?
Of eight and a half.
It's like a retail, re-imagining of eight and a half.
Okay, right.
Eight and a half, random.
Random.
Random.
No, no, no, that's-
I'll take it over nine.
What about Petful Nine and Three Quarters?
Nine and Three Quarters, might as well be 10.
Also, we're not elevating that transphobe's work.
Oh yeah, sorry, sorry.
By the way, you know what?
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
You know who hates you now?
J.K. Charlie and Troy. Why? By the way, you know what? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know who hates you now? JK.
Charlie and Troy.
Because they just want to go back back to 1999.
I stick around.
I find nine quite chic when it's next to another nine or any other number.
Nine is chic.
Nine is so chic.
Nine is actually the chicest number.
I don't know, y'all.
Nine by itself, I don't enjoy.
It gives me anxiety, I say, go to 10.
You know what I mean?
I think honestly, if I'm really thinking about the numbers,
three pisses me off.
Nine doesn't want the responsibility of 10, you know?
10's a big responsibility.
Nor should it take a responsibility it can't handle.
Did you think about that?
But it won't, that's why it's not.
I know, I think that is a lot of restraint.
10 is whole.
10 is...
10 is king.
By the way, I don't think nine is a prime number.
Yeah, I'm sorry it's not.
I take that back, of course.
I can't believe I knew a number thing.
You didn't.
I am deeply mistaken.
Amelia.
Because you know what you can do with nine.
Split it in threes.
But I hate three. Three six it. Amelia. Cause you know what you can do with nine, split it in threes. But I hate three.
Three, six, nine.
Yes.
Wait, also if you don't have nine,
you can't have 69, the best sexual position.
I don't know.
No, I don't know.
Have y'all, have y'all, have y'all,
have y'all 69 recently?
Cause it's always like, I don't know what,
it's all canceling out.
It's a bit, I'm like, it's unnecessary. I kind of love it. A bit unnecessary. I kind of love it.'s all canceling out. It's a bit unnecessary.
I kind of love it.
I kind of love it.
I like it in theory.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm going, oh, that's nice.
I don't like it.
Why is it called 69?
Because you are a six and a nine.
Someone's a six and someone's a nine.
You know what I'm saying?
You catching my drift?
Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Like, no.
If this is a six and that's a body, here comes nine.
Beep, beep, beep.
And there's a little.
Isn't it more of an eight?
No.
Wait, let's actually think about this before we say no.
Before we like, disrespect her suggestion.
No, okay, okay.
Let's think about it.
No.
Okay, glad we cleared that one up.
But do you understand why it's 69?
No.
So it's-
So look, look, look.
All right, Bowen, we have to show her.
This is what it is.
It's like, all right, let's show her.
One person is, like this is the tail, and then that's...
By the way, this is a ventricle.
And then see, like, we're, like, it's like we're symmetrical.
That doesn't look like a six or a nine to me.
That does not look like a six or a nine. Amelia. That does not look like a six or a nine.
Amelia.
Do you want me to do it to you?
Do you want me to do it to you?
No, I'm fragile.
You've had it already.
I've had it.
Period.
I think that 69 is great when it's not side by side.
I have to be.
You have to be down on your back.
I have to sort of be exactly what I just did to you.
Just like that.
Just like that.
Oh yeah.
That's just the best.
That's what we just saw there.
That is romance.
You know what's gonna happen?
This video is gonna come out audio first
and then a couple of days later video
and they're not gonna be able to wait
to watch me 69 Bowen.
It happened.
We have been getting a lot of requests to kiss lately.
Have you seen that?
Kiss, kiss.
Kiss, kiss.
Kisses.
Kisses.
I'm like, we're sisters.
The fans.
The fans. Kissing's fun, yeah. My favorite thing to, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. I'm like, we're sisters. The fans. The fans.
Kissing's fun, yeah.
My favorite thing to do.
You guys want to all kiss?
Yeah.
No, please.
Challenges.
Challengers.
Challengers.
Oh wow, you really should have been in the middle.
You're Zendaya, obviously, but then who are we?
I'm, I think I might be Feist, I guess.
Yeah.
I'm Josh.
You're like the scuzzier, messier one.
No, that's a huge compliment. I'm for the streets. You're like the scuzzier, messier one. No, that's a huge compliment.
I'm for the streets.
You're for the streets.
We were saying, one of my favorite comments
about me recently online was that I need to stop
pushing Bowen to talk about his sex life
just because I'm for the streets.
I wish I was for the streets.
You are for the streets.
Look at the top you're wearing, you slut.
You're such a slut.
What are you, she's taking a turn.
There's a shy girl slug where she's like,
she goes, I'm for the streets bitch.
Yeah, that's great.
Really good.
I'm for the streets bitch.
You bitch.
All right, are you ready to show the streets
what you got?
You said you had something.
I do.
Okay, this is Amelia DeVoldemort
because I don't think so honey, her time starts now.
I don't think so honey, magicians.
Yeah, here we go.
Okay, watch, I don't need a man to tell me something I don't know.
Hello?
Don't trick me.
What?
Stop doing it.
Also, where are the female magicians?
I don't see any of them.
Okay, it's a feminist issue.
The only women around magic are getting sawn in half.
Okay, no, thank you.
Playing cards, sleight of hand.
I just don't think it's necessary really.
And I also think it's...
I've been to the Magic Castle.
Wow.
Smelled bad.
Smelled bad.
Smelled bad.
Smelled really bad.
Also, it's not real.
What?
Magic?
Oh, sorry, it's not real.
I thought you meant the Magic House.
What?
15 seconds.
Magic's not real.
Show me some real magic.
Find me an emotionally available man
who can buy me dinner.
Oh my God.
That's all I want.
Five seconds.
Isn't it?
Don't pull a rabbit out of a hat.
They don't want to be there.
And that's one minute.
Amelia.
First of all, I think that you are so right
to call out the gender inequality in this art form.
Yes, yes, it's true.
It's weird, isn't it?
As Olivia Rodrigo once said,
God, it's brutal out here.
Exactly.
No, but I think there's a reason
why women don't want to be magicians
because they know it's like not appropriate
like to be a magician.
Appropriate in the sense that like...
It's not appropriate really to be a magician.
It's lying.
It's lying. Yes, it's lying. It's lying. It's lying.
Yes, it's lying.
It's just more men lying to me.
Right.
And I don't want it around me.
What if...
Do you like magic?
I can appreciate it.
Okay.
But like, what if...
But what if...
Okay.
I mean, hold on, hold on, hold on.
What if they're like,
we're going to pay you
five million dollars if you learn magic.
Oh my God, it's so lame.
Magic.
You don't need that money.
You don't need that money.
What am I going to be doing?
Like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
Well, okay.
Sorry, no.
If you were going to do magic, what would, like,
you know what I'm saying?
The different forms.
You should find a lane.
You should do fashion magic.
Fashion magic?
What, like, oh,, like when they like turn their
clearance inside out.
No, it's pants.
That's what I'm saying.
We don't need it, we don't need it.
Oh wait, no, do fashion magic.
You know who I do kind of like?
Who?
Is it David Blaine?
Yeah, David Blaine.
Oh, is he canceled?
We don't know.
I don't know.
Do we know if David Blaine is canceled?
Can we find out? Just Google search David Blaine canceled. But you can still like him if he is canceled. We don't know. I don't know. Do we know if David Blaine is canceled? Can we find out?
Just Google search David Blaine canceled.
But you can still like him if he's canceled.
No, I just, okay, that's the kind of magic I can,
maybe I'm into that.
But that's more like risking your life.
Like you could maybe die.
Right, and that's not to see.
There's no to see in that.
No. That's death defying.
Have you ever seen Chris Angel?
Mind freak!
No.
I don't.
He's under investigation for two sexual assaults.
Okay.
Okay.
I hate him.
All right.
Got it.
You're right.
They're bad.
They're bad.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm point braven.
Wait, but where are the, is there one female,
you know who I shared birthday with,
Penn Jillette.
Oh.
Are they the ones who shoot themselves?
Um.
Penn and Teller, right? If themselves? Pen and teller?
Who has a pen and teller with a gun?
I don't know if they have guns.
Wait, you ever interacted with Siegfried and Roy?
They got mauled by their own tigers.
That's what I'm saying, a dumb.
We should just hung it up.
Also Magic Castle, get the carpet cleaner out.
It smells like that.
Have you been there?
I've not been there. I don't know why. Have you dead out. Have you been there? I've not been there.
I don't know why.
Have you been there?
Have you been there?
I've been there.
Unfortunately.
No, did you get invited?
By a magician.
You have to be invited by a magician.
By a magician.
And how did you know this magician?
Just friend for friend.
I wouldn't personally associate myself a magician.
Were you trying to smash?
I wasn't trying to smash the magician.
No.
Magician is not my type.
As we were, I don't think so, honey.
Magicians.
That was brutal.
And the best way that you,
I'm on your side completely.
It was a searing takedown.
Thank you.
Emily DeMaldenberg,
what a true delight it's been to be with you this week.
It's really been delightful.
You have to come back.
I've honestly had the best time with you guys.
But like truly like for multiple days. Yeah, and I just really appreciate it because I feel like some of these things can be really overwhelming
and it's so nice to like have people around you who are like actually funny, normal, great, talented, love it.
Love you guys. And thank you so much for having me on.
Of course. We feel the same way about you.
I remember meeting you at that part after part of being like, you just, I mean, we just have to have you on.
I'm so glad it happened. And you guys, it's nearly, being like, you just, I mean, we just have to have you on. And I'm so glad it happened.
And you guys, it's nearly the 10 years for you guys.
Is it?
It's true.
Did we start about the same time?
Yeah, we must have.
That's so nice.
I guess like March 2016 was when we started.
So another year or so.
We're at the nine year mark.
We're almost there.
You should do a big 10 year thing.
I'm sure we will.
We love to do an event.
You have to.
We love to eventize. We love to eventize.
We love to eventize and maybe we'll see you at the awards.
I think you're gonna be nominated.
I'm begging to work the carpet.
You know what?
Let me work.
Honestly, let me work.
Could be good.
Could be good.
Only if you wanna do it.
Okay, we'll talk.
We will talk.
We'll talk.
Well, we have to rope in a lot of people
that have meetings about the culture awards now.
We keep teasing the music.
Moving on up to the sound. All right, we end to rope in a lot of people who have meetings about the culture awards now. We keep teasing the music. Moving on up to the east side.
All right, we end every episode with a song.
And here we go.
Moving on up to the east side.
Why this key?
That being in the sky.
Yeah.
Fish don't fry in the kitchen.
Bye, thank you!
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