Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Media Is Having a Moment" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

This is a culture catch up about legacy MEDIA! And this media includes being put in your place, being self-indulgent, sharing psychics, ContraPoints, drones in Oz, Kelly's new singles, wedding playlis...ts, and a very gay X-Files? Canned messy talking heads? Are the sisters next? Media personalities are being hunted but don't worry because vacation is slaying and certain sponsors are staying. We're talking corporations, globalization, and making memories with friends! An informative break down of what it means to be a reader, finalists, and/or a Kayteigh. Yes it's true, these gay guys just want to hear themselves talk. Anyway the sisters are at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida! Mother??See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that, who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, Elianian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Las Culturistas calling. Welcome to the mother convention. The mother convention. Meghan Trainor's on Kelly Clarkson. Officially, the mother convention has begun. Wait, we can't start the podcast calling Meghan Trainor mother. We were the first to call Meghan Trainor mother. No, we weren't.
Starting point is 00:02:03 You were, not me. Don't drag me into this. You're already done been been dragged and that's what you need more than ever now that you're at your high heights as you need to be dragging you want to be dragged today not by you no i just think the public should drag no i don't want you inviting this because then i'm gonna have to hear about it later no what are you talking no i really do think you want the public to drag you i want someone to put me in my place in a way that is like helpful and i guess you are the only person uh honey got a therapist honey my therapist i see your therapist i'm paying my therapist to validate me at every turn and i go do you read that article that's like is therapy making us
Starting point is 00:02:38 more selfish you know for the very first time a few weeks ago my therapist said to me that maybe my behavior was a little indulgent. And I was like, honestly, thank you for saying that. Even that's a little too nice of a frame. No, I don't think it was. Just for anybody. Like, was he trying to say she? Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Oh, my God. First of all, check yourself. I wreck you. It's really culture. Number 99. Check yourself before I wreck you. And's rule of culture number 99. Check yourself before I wreck you. I can do that. My gender bias is only because my therapist is male.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Your gender bias is showing like a penis in a G-rated film. Get it out of here. Get it out of here. Your gender bias is showing like your FYP is showing on your TikTok. Not for other people. Mother. Don't show it to others. No, she told me that my behavior, because in the hashtag wake up my breakup, I was doing things
Starting point is 00:03:30 that like were sort of like self-carry. And then at one point she said, is this crossing over into a little indulgent? Because I did go see a psychic. Yes. Which I've not necessarily been honest about on the podcast until now. But I did go see a psychic at a time when I was doing not well. And I saw more than one. And then my therapist, I think from a place of concern, because she told me that she's seen a lot of people give a lot of money to psychics when they feel desperate because they're so good at what they do. And she said, not only should you not be giving this person money, but is this behavior a little indulgent? And I was like, interesting. Now that I feel sufficiently dragged, I'm going to stop doing this
Starting point is 00:04:09 for financial and personal reasons. And that's what it took. Yeah, I think that at that point, I was like, I'm going to stop seeing this particular psychic who, and you went to the same one as me. I went to the same one as you and we had vastly different experiences.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yes, I basically, and I don't know if this will shock the readers, but was immediately susceptible same one as me i went to the same one as you and we had vastly different experience yes i basically and i don't know if this will shock the readers but was immediately susceptible to everything this psychic was saying and bone was more like i don't know about queen well i don't know about queen but she honestly like i think she sat me down and was like this is what literally happened she sits down with matt for 45 minutes. Patrick Rogers and I are standing outside. Just kind of like, okay, well. First, she's like, do you want them in the room? And I was like, yeah, they can be here.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And she went to the other side of the room. Yeah, but you could hear everything. Sure. No, you could hear everything. We weren't really making sound, though. We weren't making noise. No, but this is so funny. We go to the psychic because we're kind of just having like a girl's day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And so then you guys are sitting there and the psychic goes not making a peep no you were fine but it was funny because the psychic goes i'm gonna tell you the truth i'm not gonna tell you what you want to hear i'm like okay yeah and she's like are you sure you want them there and i was like yes they can be here and she goes your home is in la no she doesn't even ask she doesn't la doesn't even come to her i think you volunteer that information. You're like, yeah, I'm visiting from LA. And she goes, LA is your home. LA is your home. That's where good things are going to happen for you.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And I look over at my two biggest champions for moving back to New York, which are Bowen Yang and Patrick Rogers. And they both have these sour pusses on. I'm like, we hate her. And then she goes, she goes, I need both of you out. You two need to leave. I'm picking up your energy. You guys have to leave.
Starting point is 00:05:47 This was the dead of February, I want to say. Freezing cold in New York. We were like, okay, I guess. And so then Patrick and I were standing outside for 45 minutes. We're like, wow, I guess Matt is really connecting with this person. Yeah, lo and behold, it will shock no one to hear I'm in there crying because this girl is absolutely nailing it and slaying it. She's killing it.
Starting point is 00:06:07 She's saying things that no one else could know. It was my Tyler Henry Hollywood medium moment. Okay. Is this fair of me to say that she was slaying and initials of names of people and saying what their connection to me relevantly was. And then she was going in and saying emotional things that only I had thought or only I had heard. And then I was like, oh my God. And then of course she goes to, you need to come back for life coaching because you- We need to work together.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah. She goes, we need to work together. You need cleansing. You need it really bad. She points to me and she said, your love life is a mess. And she's like, everything else is good, but with love you need cleansing. And when someone looks you dead in the eyes and says you need cleansing and it's an emergency.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That's terrifying. That is also how they get your money. To scare you? It's very, only I can help Which is a dangerous sentence readers Can we just level set It is just past 9 in the morning We got up at 8 in the morning We're in Orlando Florida
Starting point is 00:07:15 I'm looking at the magic kingdom right now as we say all this I'm looking at it We spent a gorgeous day in the parks And that's where we're coming from We're sort of broken down at Disney that's where we're coming from. We're just, we're sort of- Broken down at Disney. Broken down, but we're getting back up. We're going to crest another hill today.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I mean, it's just going to be, our pleasure centers are going to explode by the end of this. But I think that honestly, yesterday we sort of went hard and did so many of the major rides and attractions as we'll get into. And that's why I think today we're able to drop in and be so raw. That's so true.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Okay, so basically you had that amazing experience with her. I walk in. Opposite. I sit down with her and she goes, yeah, you're fine.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, everything's good. Ah, your third eye. Your indigo chakra is a little... Indigo chakra. Your third eye is a little clouded. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:08:03 You can pay me this crazy amount of money to get it cleansed. And I was like, okay, why not? Yeah. Here's my card. Text me tomorrow at 3 PM.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It'll take me 24 hours. This one wanted to stay in touch. And I was like, okay. And then the next day I call her at three. She'd just gotten off the phone with you. Yes, she did.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And she was like, it took me a long time. It took me a long time to clear it, but it's cleared. And I said, thank you so much. She said, you should be able to feel something in the next 24 hours. I was like, okay, sure. And then she's like, you can keep working with me if you want. And I was like, no, I think I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:08:37 That's who she was. She had her grift and no problem. And I'd feel bad even calling it that. No, I think that's probably true. I think someone like that is excellent at performing in a way that makes me jealous. I go, I wish I had that. I cannot convince- You would be an amazing psychic.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I cannot convince someone of that. And I cannot like close like that the way she did. And I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Here's what I'll say. So immediately I go to my real therapist, my actual professional, she, and I said to her, I was like, I have to tell you, this is embarrassing, but I've seen this person more than once, like, because I'm not doing well and I'm now like embarrassed to say I'm a little bit like hooked on because it's that thing of like you're wanting more information and I'm someone who always wants more information in life but like that doesn't necessarily like come easily and it also is not helpful for you so I was in this place of like just desperately grasping at like straws emotionally
Starting point is 00:09:39 so like I say to my therapist I'm like she's got me I know it like but I know I say to my therapist, I'm like, she's got me. I know it. Like, but I know I have to stop going to her because it's like not real information. It's this like ooey gooey, like psychic stuff. And I want to know, like, and I was like, you can't even answer this question for me really. But like, is this real? Do people have this? And my therapist said, yes, people do have a heightened sense. I mean, I believe this to be true. In my dealings with more than one client, they've described this feeling of expressing
Starting point is 00:10:10 something to a psychic and that what they say is uncannily accurate and really, really, really stuff that, of course, this feels cliche now because we've all seen the TV shows. No one could have known. But I will also say these people are also business people and their intuition is their skill. And so that's what they use to manipulate people. Like, yes, what they do is real. But she said, what you have to remember is
Starting point is 00:10:37 a psychic or a medium can maybe intuit what is happening or like make something more clear for you or like explain something that might be going on, but they cannot make things happen. So once they start telling you like, oh, I need to work on you or oh, I need to work on this person, that's where what they're doing is.
Starting point is 00:11:00 That's how they get you to make something happen for them. Yes, and give them money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, literally. That makes a lot of sense. I love that way of putting it. Yeah. It's not bogus.
Starting point is 00:11:09 No, no, no. It's also not entirely above board. Their intuition is the thing that I consider myself not having the best intuition. You have great intuition. But I feel like for that person, let's say for the person that we saw together, she could intuit that like i was like skeptical skeptical and
Starting point is 00:11:30 that intuition is the thing that like helps their business sense which again like i know sounds redundant and obvious but it's like it's interesting how like one thing feeds into the other which it's it's it's an oraborous kind of thing yeah i just think you other, which it's, it's, it's, it's an Ouroboros kind of thing. Yeah. I just think you, I think that it's true. You do present more like, Hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. You present more Scorpio and I definitely present more Pisces. I think I presented as a very vulnerable and you were presenting as like, now what's this? Like, why did this just take 45 minutes with my best friend? Right. And I never said that i didn't
Starting point is 00:12:05 even push back in the room when she was like you're fine i was like oh really and i wasn't even like that you were like that's news to me no no i was like i was like really because and i and i i would say i was also like in a weird place at that time and i was like there are things that i would love to whatever but for her to look you in the eye and say you need cleansing uh that that does not sit right with me yeah because i look at my friend and i go he's perfect well girl i definitely needed i needed something at the time it just probably wasn't that and now looking back i'm like well it's just funny because like the last session i ever had with yeah with this person in person over the phone in person i. I went three times, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Okay. And they read the tarot cards and everything. And they're like, oh, I wish I could say it was getting better, but it's not. And I was just like, oh no. And then she was telling me more things. And I was just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'm realizing right now, I actually have to stop doing this. I was like, this is no longer- You said that to her? Yes. I was like, I don't think this is good for me anymore. And she was like, well, you know what? Every time I look at your cards, I know you're this is no longer. You said that to her? Yes. I was like, I don't think this is good for me anymore. And she was like, well, you know what? Every time I look at your cards, I know you're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh. And she was like, so you don't have to keep coming to me and you don't have to give me any more money. That's interesting. She actually said that. She was like, every time I look at your cards, everything is fine. It's when I look deeper that things aren't so great. Other people. And I was just like, all right, well.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And then she started doing the thing where she was asking for personal items and stuff like that. And I was like, you know what? I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to do this. And it was over at that point. But she did say to me at one point, she was like, yeah, I'm looking at your cards now. And things could go a whole different way. And I was just like, yeah, but the first time I came in here,
Starting point is 00:13:46 you said I needed to keep working with you because there was only one path forward. And now you're saying you're looking at the cards and like, hmm, actually I could be fine. It was just like, oh, it was that moment where you realized you got got. And of course, everyone I talked to about this is like, well, when you scheduled the appointment,
Starting point is 00:14:03 she probably looked you up, but we did a walk-in. We did a walk-in. Yeah, exactly. So that part was like spooky. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. We did a walk-in and it was under someone else's name or yeah. Well, no, it was a walk-in. It was a walk-in period. Like there was no, she did not know who was coming in. And then Patrick Rogers house did not get a reading done because he was like freaked out by it. I think. And the second time i came back this psychic said to me i knew your third friend wasn't gonna get a reading i knew it i knew it right and she was like what's the deal with him and i was like we're not going there no we're not going i was like i don't want you to tell me anything about like no no it was not and also nothing that she was saying
Starting point is 00:14:40 was like ultimately real right the things that she did to me she my intuition stayed the same she cleaned out my chakras i might have even gotten worse yeah i think i think i ended up having like a mental breakdown like the next week like i don't think she was necessarily helpful she was like you're good girl i'm like, no. It was truly hurtling towards rock bottom. Anyway. Damn. It was an experience and it was, I will say, a moment of me
Starting point is 00:15:13 going, I'm concerned for my friend and you going, let me. And I said, okay. And I say, this is you and I, as friends, giving each other the space to figure it out for ourselves. It's really giving Scully and Mulder. And I say, this is you and I, as friends, giving each other the space to figure it out for ourselves. It's really giving Scully and Mulder. And I do think that we could do an X-Files.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I think that would be a chic idea for us. A charged emotional sexual. A charged emotional sexual X-Files that's homosexual like you've never seen. Homosexual like you've never seen. It should be reboot X-Files homosexual like you've never seen homosexual like you've never seen it should be it should be reboot x files homosexual like you've never seen if you guys if readers katie's publicists finalists out there could all sort of make some mock-ups for posters for x files starring bowen yang and matt rogers for the upcoming for the upcoming x files homosexual like you've never
Starting point is 00:16:03 seen for hulu because it'll be a fox show by the way do you remember when i said there's constantly x-files reboots and you were like no and then they announced a new one they did yes i guess i'm just not x-files is a huge blind spot for me you know i tried at one point i did i tried it's not really my genre as you all know but i liked the intrigue of it like Like, I liked the idea of that central relationship of I want to believe, I don't believe. I was interested
Starting point is 00:16:28 in the sexual tension between them. And I actually, I'll say it right here and now, and you tell me if you agree. Find David Duchovny hot as hell. I think this is a widely agreed upon notion.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. Of course. And Jillian. Honey. Honey. They had it going on. They had it going on at all ages. Timeless beauties. Tim, of course. And Jillian. Honey. Honey. They had it going on. They had it going on at all ages. Timeless beauties. Timeless beauties.
Starting point is 00:16:55 This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear pastels, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out. You broke the rules
Starting point is 00:17:17 and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being
Starting point is 00:17:40 one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations i was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble i encourage delusional dreamers be a delusional dreamer just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer i just had such an anger i was just so mad at life everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine i had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened,
Starting point is 00:18:08 I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman.
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Starting point is 00:19:13 an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf elf beauty founding partner of iheartwomensports should we talk a little bit about the way our vacation has been slaying the way vacation has been slaying is i can't describe it it's a genuinely new experience and it's an experience that was amplified by substances a hundred percent we sort of just you know had our little uh mushroom game on and we sort of walked into the parks and began to slay and it's interesting actually because i'm looking out at the window which is we're at the disney contemporary
Starting point is 00:19:58 resort and i'm looking out at the window and i'm literally seeing the construction on what was splash mountain they're turning it into of course princess tati's bayou dip michael hartney that's a michael hartney joke it's princess tiana's princess tia's bayou adventure but literally yeah michael hartney in 2020 tweeted when they announced splash mountain was closing he said can't wait for it to be called princess tati's bayou dip and then it pretty much to be called princess tati's by you and then it pretty much was basically called princess tati's by you tip so just know that when they do open this ride it is forever henceforth known as princess tati's by you thank you michael hartney i think starring jennifer lewis i asked her i was like mama are you gonna be in the ride and she was like and i don't
Starting point is 00:20:41 know what if she knew what the fuck i was talking about, but she was like, oh yeah! Yes. Oh, of course! And I was like, I don't think... I was like, this was probably recorded eight years ago, knowing the corporation. I mean, if she's not involved, it's a huge flop. I hope Prince Naveen is all over that thing. I hope Prince Naveen
Starting point is 00:21:00 sort of, you know, shows peen. Shows peen. I always wanted him to show peen in that movie. We need more penis in G-rated films. Thank you. Legalize it. Legalize it.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's Azurilla Culture number 49. We need more penis in G-rated films. Legalize it. Not R. I don't want to, they still have
Starting point is 00:21:20 all these codes about R-rated films. Been there, done that. G, I think we start from the bottom, work our way up. What's so bad about the male body? Can I ask that question? I can't think of a single thing.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's so bad about the male body that we can't see it in The Princess and the Frog. Oh, sure. Sometimes there's, like, ball stubble. So what? Grow up. So what? Grow up. Lick it.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I use my Manscaped products. And this is not an ad. It's not an ad. But we have done ads from them before. But here's the thing. Manscaped, I'm going to come out here right now and say this. One of the few products on Las Coturistas that we've been sent and tried and that I then kept ordering. Has stayed in your life.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It stayed in the conversation in my bathroom. Let's just say that. There are some other sponsors that I, we know I obviously cannot possibly name. Shall remain nameless. But have made my life have inconvenience to me in huge ways. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And also other sponsors that are kind of fucked up in terms of their practices. But we no longer we no longer sponsor them but it's very valid people are kind of asking us please stop doing we have not done ads for them for a while and i've actually when i had a personal twitter i actually did come out against this sponsor and say hey no no we can't say it but like let's just say we're careful about what we do sponsorships for all right here's how the sponsorships works because sometimes i think people are like why is this happening on las culturistas everything that
Starting point is 00:22:50 we are saying with our voice we were asked do you want to do an ad for that if it's not us if it's like bethany frankel doing an ad for the army that's something that bethany frankel said she would do and iheart's putting on channel wide okay that's how that works if it's bethany frankl for the u.s army that is not something that me matt rogers and you bowen yang said we want on las codrillas bethany frankl for the u.s army is an iheart thing ultimately our podcast is its own advertising platform for bethany frankl for the army now we're saying we want it to go on so now whenever you hear bethany franco for the u.s army we should just do an ad for bethany franco for the u.s army just because i gotta go but i just let me let me tell you about the army okay all right the army is one of the most amazing things
Starting point is 00:23:33 in american history which is obviously the best country they have the america created the apprentice which i i started on whatever i gotta go i gotta go i gotta go i got so you into enlist you just gotta go to your US Army dot gov dot gov make sure it's dot gov dot gov or else you know it's fake and there's so many fake so many fake things on the internet lately and I'm telling you right now it's like you go on TikTok everything is fake TikTok can shadow ban me I have no idea
Starting point is 00:23:56 what's happening there but I gotta go I gotta go just go US Army dot com dot gov or whatever it is you go Google it okay so if you can find my TikTok after they shadow ban me I'm doing a review on the branches of the US.S. military. Yeah, I'm going to go through all of them. I'm reviewing Army, Air Force, Space Force. Space Force and Marines.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Marines. You know, we all dated one of them. Navy and Navy. We all dated one. We'll remain nameless. I got to go. I got to go. My daughter's driving me fucking crazy
Starting point is 00:24:18 and so is my ex-husband. Still, it's not over. All right, well, usarmy.com.gov, whatever I said. So be all you can be. I have to say that part. And now I have to say, what is this? Watch Top gun maverick yeah top gun maverick i gotta go i gotta go um that was bethany for the actually don't ask no but like i know there have been u.s army ads there have been a lot of u.s
Starting point is 00:24:40 army ads on the podcast somebody said one time like why is there an Army ad on Las Cruces? We don't know. We do not support the military-industrial complex, okay? I mean, can we come out and say that? We can say that, and iHeart is still going to be like, tough titty, we're still putting Bethany Frankel for the U.S. Army. It's not that we don't have respect for our men in green, which is, I believe, the color they wear. Yes, as an expression. Yeah, men in uniform.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. Let's just say that, you know, we do our best. We try to only give you ads for products that we... Let's be positive. What's a good thing we've used that's an ad we've done? Oh, Hawthorne. I love Hawthorne products. I use the sunscreen.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yep. Love Hawthorne. Remember when McDonald's sent us the McRib? Oh, my God. That was a special day. Remember when McDonald's sent us the McRib? Oh my god. That was a special day. And that was right in the throes of lockdown. And I really appreciated McDonald's for doing that. Yeah, that was major. Gosh, there's so many.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I mean, obviously Kraft Mac and Cheese. Oh, Kraft Mac and Cheese has gone down in history. It's really gone down in history. So anyway, corporations. We are at the Walt Disney World Resort. Like I said, we are staring at the Magic Kingdom. Highlights from yesterday. We literally got to do everything.
Starting point is 00:25:50 What was your highlights? My highlights was I did multiple Rhymes. I did Ratatouille and I did Tron Light Cycle Run, both of which I had done in other countries. Yeah, international. This is, you know, maybe underlining something about globalization that is good and bad. I don't know. But the fact that they were the same experience.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yes, drag and drop. Drag and drop. Well, in a way that was actually comforting. Really? In a way that was comforting. So you feel like... I feel like globalization is the way. Globalization is the way forward.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I think every country should have everything the same. We should all get the same. Okay? This actually is rule of culture number 91. Globalization is the path forward. We should all get the same. Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind.
Starting point is 00:26:39 That was artful. Cosmic Rewind? I felt like I was going back to the dawn of time. Well, I have news for you, Queen. You went back there. I went back there and we got to write it twice. Both times we got I Ran So Far. I Ran So Far.
Starting point is 00:26:58 By Flock of Seagulls. Flock of Seagulls, right? So basically when you go on this ride, Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind, it is a massive, massive roller coaster that's indoors, and they launch you up, and in true Guardians fashion, there is like a classic song that plays during the ride, and we got I Ran So Far by Flock of Seagulls both times.
Starting point is 00:27:19 We were told we could get Conga by Gloria Estefan. So you wanted Conga. I really want Conga bad. I want Conga bad matt wanted conga i wanted and because multiple people at work were like i really hope you get this song uh-huh everybody wants to rule the world by tears for fears that's a good one and i it's one of my favorite songs i would love love love for that to be blasting in my ear as i sit on one of the craziest coasters i've ever been on. It really was wild. And we're hopefully going to get to do it again.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And I hope, can I tell you what I hope what happens and let's get tactile? I hope that one time it's conga and one time it's everybody wants to rule the world. Oh my god, we're crying. Wait, can we get tactile? We're touching. I think this is what Disney is all about.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And it's about making memories with friends and people oh my god thank you for saying that i also that yeah it was an extremely fun day what did you think of your experience on rise the resistance that billion dollar project that billion dollar project at the scale i was just blown away and love was obsessed with going inside outside inside outside kind of didn't expect it to be like this is the ratatouille ride but to a 20 these trackless vehicles vehicles i kind of i'm digging i'm like the power of magnets yeah it's really wild it's i'm feeling like a juggalo because i'm going magnets how do they? Now tell me how it works. Magnet.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah, no, we're having a fabulous day. Today is going to be more of a chill. We sort of drink around the world and drink around the world. Day world showcase. We're having an absolutely fabulous day at the top of the episode. We mentioned the mother convention,
Starting point is 00:29:01 which was Megan trainer was on Kelly Clarkson. And then you sort of had a meltdown, but I think we do have to face the fact that I think we started this mother thing with Meghan Trainor. I don't think we did. I think we called Meghan Trainor's own mother more than and before anyone else. And now she has a full song called Mother.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And basically what I'm saying is we are the Chris Olsons who go unseen. We are the Chris Olsons who are not her friend. Yeah. We are the Chris Olsons who are saying her friend. Yeah. We are the Chris Olsen's who are saying mother, mother, mother, not on TikTok,
Starting point is 00:29:28 sort of beyond TikTok. And there is a world beyond. There is a world beyond TikTok and their lurk, Matt and Bowen, who've been saying Meghan Trainor mother for a long time. Legacy media, like podcasts. Legacy media.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Las Cotterices is legacy media. And that's for the culture number 78. Lost Culturess is Legacy Media. But whether we've been saying it as a joke or not, we have
Starting point is 00:29:52 been saying it. Lost Culturess is part of Big Money Players, is part of iHeartRadio, is part of... Say that. Is part of Wasteroi Royco.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I know I've heard Shiv say, well, we've got Lost Cult. Yeah, I think Shiv is a huge reader. Shiv is a huge reader. Shiv Roy is a reader. She's a Katie.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Shiv was kind of the one pulling the strings in terms of the deal being struck. Yes, yes. To get Lost Gulch on Waystar. She was like, these two are a path into a demographic we don't have. And listen, we were at Disney when Carlson and Lemon were out. And that makes us two of the foremost journalists working right now. Wait, let's pivot to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So there's succession to discuss and there's also the wild media day. Media is having a moment. Media is having a moment. That's actually the title of that. Media is having a moment. Because is having a moment. That's actually the title of that. Media is having a moment. Because media had such a moment Monday. We're recording this Tuesday morning at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Which is media writ large. Yeah. And so this is our big media episode. Lights, camera, action. So yesterday, Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon out at Fox News and CNN, respectively. Other things also went down, but we're focusing on these two because it was just wild. These sort of controversial, polarizing, to say the least, talking heads on different ends of the political spectrum both got canned and neither of them saw it coming.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And I think both of them sort of felt like protected because why wouldn't they have already been given the boot? But both kind of messy girls in their own right. And let's get into it. Let's get into it because you're right. Not to equate. Can we just say not to equate? Obviously not to equate.
Starting point is 00:31:37 But for them to go, I never thought this could happen. That means we're not safe. You and I. We could be fired. After this episode, after iHeart listens to what we have to say about the sponsors, they go, you're out. We are going to be lemoned, carlsoned out of iHeart,
Starting point is 00:31:51 which is our CNN, which is our Fox News. We thought we were like, we're good, babe. No, no one's safe. You are never safe. And if you're listening to this right now, I know last time I said, Katie, you're a finalist. Here's what I'm saying to you today. Katie,'re not safe you might be on the chopping block we're messing around katie but katie i'm just saying wash your back i'm saying the economy is not doing great
Starting point is 00:32:15 i'm saying we don't have the job security we think we do no we do not media personalities they're hunting us they are hunting media personalities okay and i'm really fearful and i'm looking you wide-eyed and tell the readers how scared i look you look very scared and scary might i add might i add i mean look they're giving everyone a pod they're giving megan phelps roper a podcast these days to what to a podcast defending jk rowling can we just everyone wait huh everyone please so you know this big witch trials of jk rowling can we just everyone wait huh everyone please so you know this big witch trials of jk rowling podcast that's like popping off that's megan phelps roper the former megan phelps roper wow and she's coming at it from the angle of i know what it's
Starting point is 00:32:54 like to be on either side to like persecute and be persecuted and it's like you know what it's like to be in a cult for years and brainwashed and now you're only sort of better because you're just starting the building blocks of humanity she is coming at it from an angle of you need to be able to have reasoned measured conversations with bigots because otherwise they won't listen to you and contrapoints did a second episode about jk rowling within like the last three years everyone should watch it and the reason she's revisiting this idea is because of the witch trials of jk rowling but basically she's being like yes it's an interesting point to make it's a very attractive point to make to be like you should actually be
Starting point is 00:33:30 able to like have a conversation with a person that you disagree with because otherwise you know like what hope do we have but that is to like make megan phelps roper and jk rowling the main characters of the story which they are not. The main characters are people who are getting their rights taken away. And no one is coming after- And persecuted, murdered. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 It's like no one is trying to actually kill JK Rowling. Right. Or take her rights away or take her money away. Yeah. Being in a Twitter fight constantly because of the things you post on Twitter is actually not a hardship or a witch trial. It's you putting yourself out there and putting your views out there.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And when people, like, are angry about it or feel hurt by it or offended by it or feel endangered by it, they actually are allowed to react as strongly as they want. It actually, like, really brought me back to, like, not to, like, talk about this too much, but it's, like, thank God for ContraPoints points because i'm just like oh right i needed to hear this because for a while i was like i guess like i should try to figure out a way to like understand the way someone on the other side things and not to get like even too tribal in my own like in the way i describe myself like the other side lol but i'm like but it's not about that like that i, I'm sorry, they are NPC. Correct. They are NPC. Well, the Megan Phelps roper of it all always did interest me because she was so,
Starting point is 00:34:52 she went so hard in the paint for the Westboro Baptist Church. She was so unmovable that for her to then, like, I think that, like, the weird thing is she was like, I guess, de-radicalized online. Like, I believe she even ended up getting together with or marrying the person that ended up like which is getting in her dms and like being like hey if you want to talk about this you are incorrect on the way that
Starting point is 00:35:14 you feel which is also like a weird little textural thing in it it's like yeah oh the person who de-radicalized you y'all wanted to really marry like fuck each other yeah it's also again centering her perspective which is yes you were able to be de-radicalized online but that's also not necessarily what happened because what happened was you did media appearances on behalf of the westboro baptist church and then you got an overwhelmingly negative reaction which had to affect you initially right to the point where then you saw the dm and were like let me engage in this and you also i think love the attention of going back and forth it's that annoying thing that some people are where they're like you know contrarians and just want to fight
Starting point is 00:35:55 to fight that was the energy that she had like me and you on every episode of this podcast it's really just noise it's just fighting it's just just fighting. It's just two people fighting. It's just two gay guys fighting. And the gay guys have such annoying voices. And just to hear them fight and squawk is so disgusting. And they just want to hear themselves talk. It's true. These gay guys just want to hear themselves talk. If everyone could
Starting point is 00:36:17 leave a five-star review and say, these gay guys just want to hear themselves talk on the podcast app, that would be amazing. These gay guys just want to hear themselves talk. the podcast app that would be amazing amazing these gay guys just want to hear themselves talk heart leave that at a five star review bomb the ratings bomb the rating with five stars though and that's called a bomb and that's called a bomb but she's just again centering her own experience totally which is like i'm telling you it can happen it's like yes for you but that's also not the full picture totally and you wanted to fuck the guy and it's also yeah well natalie win does talk about that it's like
Starting point is 00:36:48 this cannot be applicable to everybody because not everyone's gonna marry the person that deradicalized right that's it and also i'm not saying megan phelps roper is wretched i'm saying she was wretched now she's like trying her best but it's like this is not the way for everyone and like to sympathize with jk rowling who again also does not come from your position because you were living in a relative state of like isolation jk rowling has had the entire world at her fingertips and all the resources at her fingertips to educate herself refuses or digs in it just shows her true like inherent privilege and evil at this point so again it's completely different I don't really use this word too much.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Flop. It's flop. And I never say that word. The takeaway, the headline from this ContraPoints that just came out is this person is evil. It's an evil person. This is wild. And again, I don't really...
Starting point is 00:37:42 You don't say evil. I don't say evil too much. when um when we saw kylo ren yesterday at the rise of the resistance bowen actually screamed the word evil and it was i just i'm really excited for wicked that's all i'm gonna say i'm just really excited for wicked if yesterday bowen yang screaming the word evil was a glimpse at his performance in wicked part one and two you're gonna have to wait till thanksgiving next year for that one Bo and Yang screaming the word evil was a glimpse at his performance in Wicked Part 1 and 2. Gonna have to wait till Thanksgiving next year for that one. Then we are in for a spectacular treat.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Elphaba stood no chance when Fanny was in the room. I can't believe that you as someone, this is, I guess, acting, right? So Bo and Yang, I think, really spiritually kind of is Elphaba. Oh my god. And you have the power of Elphaba. And you know that Elphaba's good, but you as the actor playing Fanny, you have to eschew all that. You have to go in and you have to say things like,
Starting point is 00:38:35 Elphaba evil. My biggest line, my moment, is a tight single on me, a tight close-up on me, and I go, Elphaba evil! And then that ends, that ends part one. You're so good. I get why you booked this. You're so good.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You're full of shit. I'm not. You're so good. No, you can't do this. I can do whatever I want. I'm good, too. I know. Can I audition? Yes. Okay, ready? Hold on, I have to drop in. This is a really hard part for me. It's not a natural fit. That's why I didn good too. I know. Can I audition? Yes. Okay, ready? Hold on, I have to drop in. This is a really hard part for me.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm not going to look at you. It's not a natural fit. That's why I didn't bark. Elphaba. Evil. Wait, I love that. You're influencing me. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:18 We haven't shot that yet. Oh. We haven't shot my Elphaba evil. I don't want to mess with your process. On the call sheet it says, Fanny looks to camera, says Elphaba evil. Elphaba evil. Evil. I don't want to mess with your process. On the call sheet it says, Fanny looks to camera, says Alpha the Evil. Alpha the Evil. I will say, this is some BTS,
Starting point is 00:39:31 and it's not revealing too much. There has been moments where I've like, where Cynthia and I, oh my God, this sounds so annoying. She's your co-star in the film. It's not that weird. She and I have like, between takes, I've been like, this feels really bad
Starting point is 00:39:43 and I'm really sorry. My character has had to be the cruel to her. Oh, cruel to her oh oh yeah i thought you were talking about your own act oh no no you turn into cynthia i'm so bad like you have like 115th the size of the part the street oh god i'm not as good as you i'm not as good as you and she's like it's okay darling oh i wish i was nominated for an Oscar like you Tony winner no I was like it was a scene where like you have to be cruel and I'm like this feels really bad in like my bones
Starting point is 00:40:11 and she's like I know darling it's fine don't worry I have this terrible British accent but she can like she's amazing yeah oh my gosh what it must be like to have those actors stomp around you and like I said I'm bringing a crossbow to set i'm not bringing a gun to set anymore because that you know it's a little extreme but i am bringing a
Starting point is 00:40:30 crossbow to set to shoot down the drones that y'all keep sending into the premises stop sending drones into that artistic environment okay please there were no drones in oz no you're breaking the spell dear there were no drones and Oz. There was one liar, man behind the curtain who lied to everyone. He said he was really Oz. He was just a man. More on that later next year.
Starting point is 00:41:02 The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy.
Starting point is 00:41:20 What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 00:41:37 This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to
Starting point is 00:42:19 break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.
Starting point is 00:42:59 We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the shit we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty,
Starting point is 00:43:31 founding partner of iHeartWomen Sports. Do we feel we covered the Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon thing? Um, yeah. Do we care? So basically, here's the deal. Tucker Carlson's awful, and finally even fox news couldn't stand him anymore and kicked him the fuck out and it's just like i guess
Starting point is 00:43:49 ultimately because they lost money or whatever or they couldn't stand it anymore but the dominion lawsuit it's like oh this man law has lied and lied and lied yes yes yes it's like we're moving away from that it's it's both of these networks like being like oh let's change course let's not be crazy crazy crazy, crazy, crazy. Which is, for it to be beyond the pale for Fox News, it's like, LOL. Yeah. And for CNN, it's like, he's chaotic, Don Lemon.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Well, Don Lemon is like, unfortunately he represented this like, left-leaning voice that was like, super opinionated. And I think now CNN's whole thing is like, we don't want either side to be overrepresented and so we're just gonna find now we're gonna find personalities who can moderate discussions between both sides which i think is kind of like such an eye roll yeah but if you read the article it's like he had said like wild things about women like you know whatever like
Starting point is 00:44:41 saying like nikki haley was quote past her prime or whatever but that was like the tip of the iceberg it's like if you really read between the lines like Don Lemon got fired for doing gay shit behind the scenes like for doing like woman hating gay shit like mean gay shit that's what you were saying yesterday it was mean gay shit
Starting point is 00:44:57 because he was like literally like sabotaging these women's careers allegedly at CNN and Matt and I were like that's such mean gay that like it's such mean gay like it gives mean gay outdated like data lounge mean gay shit like oh like boomer ass mean gay shit and not to this is not to like you know be ageist but it's like there is a like i thought it was a generational kind of gay man who was like oh you think that about women? Oh, okay. Like it's giving that. Yeah. And honestly, it's like,
Starting point is 00:45:27 it's kind of wild though. Like a few years ago, these people that were on air, they're completely gone. Like Cuomo, he's out. Now Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson. It's a witch hunt. It's a witch hunt.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I'm telling you, media personalities are under attack. Media figures are not safe. If you were a media figure, Katie, listening to this, turn around and look behind you. Make sure there's no one with a knife to stick in your back, Katie. Your gorgeous back.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Your gorgeous back. This is quickly another thing that ContraPoints is talking about. She talks about Anita Bryant in the beginning, speaking of Florida. Oh, damn. She's like,
Starting point is 00:45:59 and it's, again, I hate that I'm even bringing this up, but it's this other way of representing this idea that cancel culture is this other way of representing this idea that cancel culture is this thing that has always existed. Anita Bryant was being
Starting point is 00:46:12 virulently homophobic. Everyone was like, your career's over, babe. Everyone, and especially gay men, obviously, around the country were like, boycott the fucking orange juice. We're not watching your stupid little movies anymore. You're done in this business. And it's like, boycott the fucking orange juice. We're not watching your stupid little movies anymore. You're done in this business.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And it's like, burn a woman for being a witch back then. Whatever. No, 100%. I'm connecting different dots, but it's like, this is the human condition is that we kill each other. That's it. That was really powerful when you said that. This is the human condition that we kill each other.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That's real culture number 50. This is the human condition that we kill each other that's real culture number 50 this is the human condition that we kill each other you're correct though in that like this people have always been if they've done something incorrect they've always had consequences for it it's just that now there's so many people that we know about and there's the information spread is so immediate and so wide and like you know it's so easy to find out about these things that we just hear it so much that we're saturated with this idea that people being fucked up because there's a lot of fucked up people in the world get like fired or tossed or you know forgotten about or deleted from the internet how do you feel about the loss of the blue checks so we have pour one out for the blue checks we're going out for the blue checks
Starting point is 00:47:22 everybody we have our iced coffee we have our iced coffee i'm not gonna pour one out for the blue checks. Pour one out for the blue checks, everybody. We have our iced coffee. We have our iced coffee. I'm not going to pour them out in the resort, but. But no, but it's just, you know, in spirit, we're pouring one out for. For the blue checks. Hope everyone feels good out there and safe on the internet. And safe. Be careful. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:47:37 It's a lot of news outlets are ditching Twitter, which, you know, before an election, before a general election is tough. It's a tough one. I think the future is looking like it might be a rocky road. It might be a rocky road. And we're really getting political in DeSantis country of all places.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I can't even speak about that demon, Ron Death-Santis. Death-Santis traveling the world right now for no good reason. He's on the campaign trail. Governors doing international trips. Just to pivot. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Pivot to more happy news um you mentioned you listened to a couple of songs from miss clarkson she's released some singles and can i point out something yeah in the song me she literally sings an adora delano musical melody and line what is it well adora goes when you love me what does kelly sing in that she goes when i got me but i think she also and she goes when i got me she does a whole like fucking run she's she's giving the vocals and you notice her gospel vocals on it yes like bury myself like that like uh yeah yeah yeah that's her big vibrato gospel influence vocals yeah before the choir even comes in we're talking about me now which is the i don't need somebody to hold me
Starting point is 00:48:54 oh um that is she's giving vocals for sure on both tracks but that i just noticed that she's kind of like leaning into her her gospel vocal influence and on mine that's more of just like uh what would you call that my i don't take an alternative pop song it's like it changes tempos at the bridge which was really i love that i think my favorite out of the two is mine yes i just think it's really obviously her voice and you know what i love I love about the Kelly Clarkson songs that have just been released? Her vocals are in front of the production in a way that you do not hear. Like it doesn't sound like,
Starting point is 00:49:30 and I'm not dragging anyone, but it doesn't sound like eight different voices all being heard underwater. Like a lot of the pop girls now, it's just like, we're into the vocal layering and the production, like being a major, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:43 it's like a landscape where this is like the vocal yeah and then very spare instrumentation behind it like there's a drum kit which i love yes you know there's a bass that like sounds great but like it's really about her voice and the the lyrics which is i think the direction we've wanted even dialed dialed in that direction from the last even for meaning of life certainly from piece by piece where piece by piece was a lot of production yeah and you know life was like i'm obviously you're obviously the bigger meaning of life was like definitely more of vocal event and it was like genre wise stuff that she wanted to do more because it was like soulful rock pop which is sort of like what she's always wanted to do i think like she said it was more of
Starting point is 00:50:26 a throwback to what she sang on american out of the show where she was like you know i used to sing aretha franklin like most of the time and like there was r&b infused pop rocks that was had soul that's kind of what her thing is and now i think what we're seeing is i feel like either she's trusted to or not expected to do the pop thing, or she's just trusted to do what she wants to do. And so now we're getting more vocal-driven music from her, which is good. And it's not like, my life would suck without you, which is really wasted on a voice like hers, which has so much texture and versatility that for her to sing these like pop songs
Starting point is 00:51:06 with only six different notes in them, which are actually harder to sing live and not as fun to hear live. But of course we love the anthems. We love Since You've Been Gone. We love all the old Kelly bops, but like her voice is just better than that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And I think now an audience, the the audience knows this is like her first batch of original music since like kelly yoki really became a thing i feel yeah and like i think now people understand her to be like oh she's a vote she can of course she can sing when she won american idol but like she can sing any song yeah any version genre of song by any artist so for her to choose this as her own thing yeah is meaningful and important and i think a message is being sent to to us yes as a general public to be like oh okay this is an interesting direction for her to go and it really is interesting well we were we were um by the way happy birthday kelly it was your birthday on monday people have been saying for years like oh why oh, why doesn't she do, like, an Adele thing?
Starting point is 00:52:06 Why doesn't she do, like, an Adele thing? And it's, like, Adele can do an Adele thing because she started as doing an Adele thing. And people want her to do that. Like, it's taken Kelly a long time to be able to do this because she was still, like, servicing, like, the pop machine. Like, this is my heartbeat song. And it's, like, songs that you don't even remember right whereas like now now that she's not expected to be on pop radio i don't think which is you know a problem in and of itself that has to do with ageism and all all sorts of bullshit yeah um like it's sort of
Starting point is 00:52:36 nice at least for fans of hers that actually like to listen to you know her sing and like things that are meaningful to her that she's able to do this now. And we're going to go see her in Vegas. Very, very excited. That's going to be the gag. I did get intel. I was going to say, do you want to share this intel? Because the first thing this morning, Matt and I get up to go get coffee. Matt gasps, looks like his own gasp says, I have intel from this. So I have, I had a plant at the Kelly Clarkson show at the Belasco theater early in the week. And she did the whole album front to back. And I think she's not doing music videos for the album. I think she's entirely doing her own thing for it. What she wanted to do was she wanted to sing the album front to back at the Belasco Theater, and it was filmed, and I guess it will be released
Starting point is 00:53:18 at some point. But this is the intel that I got for what happened. This person said, this person will remain nameless if they know who they are. They're a legend. OMG, I think you will love the new album. It was truly spectacular. She performed the entire thing. A lot more upbeat than I expected. I think my fave was Rock Hudson.
Starting point is 00:53:35 There's a song called Rock Hudson. I'm obsessed that she has a song called Rock Hudson. She says something like, piece by piece, I became my own hero and I love when artists are self-referential like that. Another highlight was Def Lighthouse. It's a good title. i would say that this was the most painful lyrically i def cried during that one it's one of her more emotionally charged albums i would say then there's a song called red flag collector love it she prefaced it by saying mama was angry y'all yep skip this part
Starting point is 00:54:02 she had to restart twice because she got so emotional it was another heartbreaker for sure about wanting to skip the hard part after a breakup title track she said was her jeff buckley moment so what does that mean so it's i don't know i think i think it's more like acoustic oh i see i see i see magic it's called i also thought it was sweet she prefaced that by saying the song was about like if i died tomorrow at least i experienced magic then sheila e features on a song she came out and they did a couple songs sheila e sheila e that's major and then um you know he's obviously said that her voice sounded amazing but the magic part really got me because i remember thinking that and we're at disney of all places i know to hear that there was a song called Magic at Disney.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But the concept of like, because I did think that a couple times. I was like, oh, well, you know what? If it's over, at least I got that moment of it feeling really good. And I guess that's what the whole concept of chemistry is, right? It's like, you get to experience what it's like to be really wrapped up in something and someone and it feels like an invincible feeling. And then even though it's gone, at least you got to experience it. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And skipping the hard part, skip this part, feels very hashtag relatable. Hashtag relatable. And people are forgetting hashtag relatable. You think that relatability culture is going to come back in a major way? I think it's never left. I think we're always in it. I think we're always in it. We always appreciate relatable.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Who is the most relatable queen? Honestly, maybe Kelly. Maybe she is. Maybe it's Kelly. And it's not recency bias. It's just, it's Kelly. Sheila E., that's very exciting. Sheila E., legend.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Percussionist legend, of course.ista percussionista we're actually so excited to announce that the percussionista award is going to sheila e congratulations sheila congratulations you are a finalist and a winner at the same time did you see that the readers are sort of discussing oh that there's a four quadrants now? It's sort of become the Hufflepuff, the Hogwarts houses. Damn it. So now it's, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:56:12 well, we can take it back. No, no, no. People are identifying in one of four ways. A Katie, a reader, a finalist, or a publicist. And it was so fascinating. I saw some conversation online about how people felt they fell into different boxes, and it was a publicist. And it was so fascinating. I saw some conversation online about how people felt they fell into different boxes
Starting point is 00:56:27 and it was very equal. Really? Yes. Here's what I think the difference is. Katie is that person who listens and they're feeling like very comfortable
Starting point is 00:56:37 and at home in it. Yeah. And they're saying, yes, yes, back to the podcast when we speak. Yes. I think a reader is someone who is diligent and consuming.
Starting point is 00:56:49 This is huge. This is so major that you're actually defining it. Please. And I think a reader is diligent and consuming and is obtaining information. Yes, yes. And they are the ones who go out and they're doing it like to fill out the cultural self. Yes. The publicist is, I think, someone who takes information from this
Starting point is 00:57:06 and takes things from this and they go out and spread gospel. That's interesting. Publicizing. Does it also work the other way where I feel like I learn so much from publicists? I'm saying the publicists in the Las Culturistas sense where so many publicists reach out to me
Starting point is 00:57:22 and they go, here's some information for you that I think you might enjoy. And I go, I would have never known. Thank you. And I appreciate them so much equally as the others, but there's a certain thing that publicists do and that really I appreciate. That makes them different from a Katie or a reader. And finally, a finalist is, I think, someone who comes late and actualized to the podcast and they feel as though this is something i can add to their media diet that gives them another weapon in their already completed arsenal wow i think a finalist is an elder that that say
Starting point is 00:57:58 that that's just how i feel about it but maybe you can interpret it differently no no no i think that's a great clearly you've thought about this yeah and well i mean i was just so enthralled by the reader sort of going about their sort of identity they were finding their identity in an interesting way and i loved watching it and i love to see it and and one thing that's coming back i love to see i love to see it now we we do want to address something. We wanted to get on this sooner. There seems to be a lot of confusion about the quote-unquote ticketing system for the Culture Awards this summer, June 17th. Damarash Park at Lincoln Center. We are so sorry that people ended up waiting hours and hours on a queue.
Starting point is 00:58:39 The queue system is just to apparently view the website. Yeah, that was it. I mean, so basically what you need to know is that this is a free event and you just have to show view the website. Yeah, that was it. I mean, so basically what you need to know is that this is a free event and you just have to show up at it. You just have to show up at it. There is on Monday, June 12th, the opportunity to claim tickets on the website.
Starting point is 00:58:57 So that is something that if you go back to the Lincoln Center Summer for the City website and go to the event listing, that is maybe an opportunity to claim tickets. But we have on Good Authority that most people who came and waited standby last year got in. So come a little
Starting point is 00:59:14 bit early if you want. A lot of people described positive experiences meeting other readers, Katie's publicists, finalists. And that was such a fun night. So if you can make it, we would love to have you there. An announcement's coming soon about nominees and presenters, special guests.
Starting point is 00:59:32 But sorry that it's a little bit more confusing than it needs to be, but that's only because it's actually way easier than it needs to be ultimately, which is really you just show up. You just show up. Or on June 12th, you can procure some sort of ticket. Yes. And I don't think so, honey 12th you can procure some sort of ticket. Yes. I don't think so, honey. People going oh, Boy Genius is not... I mean you paid money for that.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And you might see him again. Yeah. You won't see us again ever. All I'm saying is I see Boy Genius pop up all the time. Okay, Boy Genius is going to keep performing. Las Cotricas may never perform again. That's true. We may never perform again. Media personalities are under attack.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Including us. Are we in a feud with Boy Genius now? We'll lose. We'll lose. We can't be the biggest Moonist stans in the world and then also be in a feud with Boy Genius. Did I get into, like, that I went to Coachella and everything? Did I get into that? But you can get into it more.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Well, I'm just saying, like like one of the great moments was watching Muna just absolutely destroy. And then Boy Genius all came out. Well, Phoebe came out obviously first during Silk Chiffon, which yesterday Bowen Yang was in his poncho. And I said, oh my God, Silk Chiffon. I didn't hear that. Oh, that's how you were.
Starting point is 01:00:41 But you were in your poncho. And I said, oh, maybe it was Dave. And I said, Silk Chiffon. you were but you were in your poncho and i said oh maybe it was dave and i said and um it was just a little joke we were doing about how our ponchos at disney world were made of silk chiffon but anyway um so soft phoebe came out and then all the boys came out and it was just like watching the six of them all together it was just so fun it It was powerful. It was powerful. So proud of everyone. So overjoyed. Seriously. So overjoyed.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I said powerful lesbian energy. Powerful bi queer energy. Say it. Say the word queer. Say the word. Queer is here. Can we just say rollercoaster number 98? Queer is here. Should we move on to Adam's Thanks, Honey?
Starting point is 01:01:21 Do you want to say anything about Succession? I need to catch up. I do want to say oh my gosh, everyone better start watching Mrs. Davis on Peacock. Oh yeah, get into it because now you've seen it too. I've only seen the first two episodes because I went to the premiere. I'm on episode three. I still have to finish up this week's, the premiere batch of
Starting point is 01:01:38 episodes. This is right up my alley. So good. It's so excellent. I knew you'd like it. These excellent performances across the board. Betty Gilpin. Yeah's so excellent. I knew you'd like it. These excellent performances across the board. Betty Gilpin. Yeah. Crown it. Crown it.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I said to her, I was like, you know, yet again, you find a way to make every choice brand new. She's so just idiosyncratic, but also it's still, it is that thing of like character actress. I was just going to say. Like is lead in a way where it's always interesting and specific. And like she has found yet another project that is interesting and specific. And that she fits into perfectly. And we are lucky to have a show this cool and fun and different. That's led by this cool and fun and different that's led by this cool and fun and different of a performance. And it's kind of has to be seen to be believed. It's one of
Starting point is 01:02:32 those things I can't explain super easily, but that's like the Damon Lindelof of it all. Which if you were a Damon Lindelof fan, this is capital F, capital Y for you. And also you'll be thrilled to know, I mentioned this on the podcast, that it's the funniest he's been because he is a funny person. He's a funny person. And credit to Tara Hernandez, who was his co-creator on this show.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yes. He, I think he said that like, I'm not the funny one. That's her. I'm the weird one. But I feel like his weirdness and his like grandiosity in terms of his storytelling
Starting point is 01:03:02 is a perfect match for this kind of humor. That is like weird, but not like weird in like the, I don't know. It's not like esoteric weird. It's like quirky weird this time. It's like, you know what I'm saying? And even quirky feels like.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Quirky is like a slur. I don't like quirky at all. It's like rule of culture number nine. Quirky is a slur. We have to get rid of quirky. And I literally, I hate that I even said it. No, no, no no no but it's because that word has been burrowed into our psyches yeah and it's like we need to like let it i hate quirky i hate quirky no one's quirky no one is quirky died in like the early 2000s with
Starting point is 01:03:39 and this is not a pejorative i'm not shitting on this movie but quirky died with like 500 days of summer like we did quirky we moved on like you know what i mean like and i love 500 days of summer but i feel like in that it's like it died with thematic pixie dream girl you know what i mean like quirky is oh i don't i just i hate quirky i don't like twee can i say i think me you and sudi are all on that oh we we are so anti twee iwee. I know, I know. But, oh my God, Mrs. Davis is excellent. Oh my God. Before we move on, I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:04:11 We all need to be listening to Flow. Their EP has been out for like about a year at this point, but I think they've done live shows recently, and specifically in New York though. So again, this is a very like solipsistic, like, oh, if it happened in New York, then it actually happened. But at least in New York, I feel like, and because I've been out this week, I'm off of work and like, I'm like being social again.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Like everyone's like, have you been listening to Flow? I'm like, yes. And excellent, excellent, tight harmonies, tight girl group vibes, Y2K throwback. Love it. Yeah, it really is giving like Destiny's Child back in the day. It's actually, I think, directly inspired by that. It's directly inspired by Destiny's Child, 3LW, TLC.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Which is fun. SWV. Me and Nick Laughlin were kind of like, oh, it should be called FLO, but it is pronounced Flo. In that tradition of three letters or whatever and you say each of them individually, but it's Flo. And it's not even like their initials or anything it's just flow but I love it and
Starting point is 01:05:08 excellent there's some like very very little mix vocal quality in there too so if you're looking for a girl group you found it and it was Bowen Yang who pointed you there no no no it was they've been around but I did write them off as like unfortunately I did write them off as like
Starting point is 01:05:24 algorithm artists I was like okay this is this is like that happens all the time it happens all the time and look we love them but i was like okay like i'm gonna add this to my library i'm gonna let's sit and then i'm gonna see you know sometimes you need something to cook in the library for a little bit yeah yeah before it like really works its way into like your rotation yeah and it's really worked its way and there's one song that I really like that's come out which is like it's like pretty generic pop song I don't know if you've heard it it's called Lost the Breakup by Maisie Peters
Starting point is 01:05:51 it's like Carly Rae Jepsen I love it I love the sound it's just a cute little song with a very nice little bridge I think a couple people have compared the writing to Taylor Swift it's sort of like if Taylor Swift being like Taylor Swift
Starting point is 01:06:07 meet a British version of Carly Rae Jepsen that's kind of what her voice sounds like but she's got a cute little song out called Lost the Breakup and I've been listening to it a lot The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You've told her? Not today, Satan. Not today.
Starting point is 01:06:44 The Real Housewives of New York City. All new, Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me
Starting point is 01:07:17 in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s**t we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you I think it's time for I Don't Think So, Honey, which is sort of the thing that we do every episode, I'd say, Beau.
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's kind of the thing that's been constant. All right. So now I'm trying to, I've just had such a wonderful few days that, and also, by the way, let me just mention, and I can't believe I didn't mention this because we got directly into the culture, but my sister got married this week. And Chelsea Rogers is now Chelsea Frazier. Chelsea Frazier. And it was such a lovely day and my sister was the chillest coolest
Starting point is 01:09:28 most gorgeous bride ever she looked amazing everyone was so happy peter her husband was so emotional throughout the ceremony and i'm just so happy i got to officiate the wedding it was the first time i'd ever done that and um i said in my speech like what i was most impressed about by them and like uh what i loved about them so much is the peace that they give each other that's they just beautiful they just truly live such a peaceful like loving supportive life and i think that that is something that in a partnership like is a value that i think often gets overlooked is does the person make you feel calm and make you feel at peace and make and i i've just there's such an emblem of that for me and so i i tried to infuse that in my speech a little bit and just that they're motivated by
Starting point is 01:10:17 time spent together and i said you know i'm just proud of them and happy for them that they found someone that they can start now and it's like the beginning of a lifetime of more time. Like, I just think that that's such a, a great, beautiful thing. So I just wanted to celebrate my sister, my little sister who got married,
Starting point is 01:10:34 my one sister. And we had a beautiful wedding in St. Pete, Florida, friends and family dancing the night away. And of course, you know, the DJ got it crunk.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah. When wrong, course you know the dj got it crunk yeah when wrong because you know like it's that thing of like at weddings that you go to for people our age sort of the high school music comes back when i tell you that like yin yang twins little john was playing at this wedding and i look over and i just feel like my aunt maureen and aunt patty and it's just like wow to the windows to the wall you listen to this music and you're like this really was everywhere and if you were not comfortable with it it didn't matter it didn't matter
Starting point is 01:11:12 listen if you hate it if you had and I'm sorry to bring this back up if you have misophonia and the whisper song came on R.I.P. R.I.P. that's actually rollercoaster number 88 if you have misophonia and the whisper song came on R.I.i.p r.i.p that's actually real culture number 88 if you have misophonia and the whisper song came on r.i.p um that's beautiful and you failed to mention on the pod and you failed to mention
Starting point is 01:11:32 you kind of buried this what did i read you were like oh chelsea was the chill spread i was like i believe it and then you tell me last night dinner her plumbing went out three days before the wedding and she had to get well water to like clean herself and she did not let that affect the mood at all she was like yeah yeah my water went out like yeah well she i could tell she was stressed um but she was basically like yeah the water went out in like her apartment complex oh my goes out and gets water from like somewhere brings it into the bathroom so she can literally flush a toilet and then a frog jumped out of the of the bucket like because the frog had been in the water that she got and she was literally like it was giving amelia bedelia it was giving plates spinning that vibe but and imagine getting married 48 hours
Starting point is 01:12:18 later just imagine she's probably one of the first people in history who had a frog a fucking frog about her toilet it It was unreal. Days before they got married. It was just unreal. And Katie's, I mean, that is a true testament to how chill this bride was. It's possible. Chelsea Frazier. Say it loud.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Say it proud. It's so weird that she has a different last name. I almost didn't assume that she would take it. Chelsea Frazier, I love. Chelsea Frazier is great. I mean, it's kind of an even trade with Chelsea Rogers, Chelsea Frazier. You kind of make the same mouth sounds. The oral posture is the same.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Frazier, Rogers. Well, she married Brendan Frazier. Oh, that's so fun. Yeah, it's so fun. We love having him in the family. He doesn't love my take on the whale, but that's just one of the things family will have to get over.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You know? I'm so happy to have my brother-in-law, Brendan Frazier, around now. Well, it's I Don't Think So Honey time. This is I Don't Think So Honey, the 60-second segment where Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers, that's us, actually, if you were confused. We take 60 seconds to rail against something in culture
Starting point is 01:13:16 that needs a railing, okay? Sort of like us. High five. I need it. I actually would love that soon. I would love that. Well, you have some time. How much longer do you have time off? Depends on if the strike happens.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Oh, yes! There might be a strike, and then Bo and Yang can get railed all the doodah day. I would love that. Fingers crossed. I would love to get railed for labor solidarity. By the way, I would like to say in a real way, you know we voted yes on that strike authorization. We are in big, big support of the WGA. We're actually both
Starting point is 01:13:44 members, and we will be hitting the streets to pick it post haste and we hope that everything works out for the best but we are ready the 2.5 percent of people who voted no in the guild i go okay yeah what happened there i don't know i mean they must have their reasons maybe it was a slip of the finger on the website no i think some people are like some people are like no we can't do that yeah well they have good reasons for it which let's not get into it maybe i mean some people are like some people are like, no, we can't do that. Yeah, I feel they have good reasons for it, which let's not get into it. Maybe those are like literally all of the studio execs
Starting point is 01:14:10 who happen to be in the guild and also are represented by MPTP. I'll say this. There was one tweet and take it with a grain of salt, but there was one from a particular show where apparently a lot of writers on this one particular very popular comedy show voted no
Starting point is 01:14:26 and i'll let the readers and the katies and the publicists and the finalists it was cheers it was cheers i'll let them all do their own digging on that but i thought it was interesting and i didn't dive deep enough to like really understand what was happening but it seemed like there's one comedy show out there that's super popular critically and like you know commercially where more than one person voted no anyway before we move on speaking of writers i need to read this like piece on vulture about um the who jackie of it all what's i didn't realize that who jackie was like such a prolific urban legend at this point in terms of comedy writing where there's apparently a story of, so this is back in the days of Roseanne. I'm literally asking who Jackie.
Starting point is 01:15:07 So Roseanne, back in the day, like peak Roseanne, right? Roseanne Barr would bring in like, the writer's room would be like 30 people. She would just bring in like random ass people she saw at the club. And like, they'd be hired for like 10 episodes and then they'd be like,
Starting point is 01:15:24 fall away as soon as they came and like people be like oh wait that person worked for us so the norm mcdonald was describing this this is like the origin of the legend there's this one writer who's who gets brought in is like this like some comic from some club that roseanne must have seen doesn't say a for two years two full seasons is in the writer writer's room, doesn't pitch, doesn't say anything. Right? And this will sound familiar in a second. And then one day,
Starting point is 01:15:51 they're trying to come up with story ideas for the episodes. And then one day, this writer finally says something and goes, what about an episode where John Goodman's character comes home and he sees Roseanne, he catches Roseanne watching her big fat ass in the sink.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Watching her big fat ass in the sink? And they've literally done like a 30 Rock episode about this. Like, hasn't like, haven't you heard like, she's watching her ass in the sink. Like, it comes from this story. And then they're like, oh, that's kind of crazy. I don't think we can show that. And then this writer goes, well, it's not Roseanne. You find out
Starting point is 01:16:25 it's her twin sister. And then they're like, oh, well, Roseanne already has a sister, you know. Canonically. We already have Jackie. And then the writer goes, who Jackie? Has been in there for two years. Who Jackie?
Starting point is 01:16:40 Who Jackie? Who Jackie? Who Jackie? I love who Jackie but like I've heard some version of like it does sound familiar like it's a very like it's like a comedy inside joke thing of like comedy writer let's say inside joke thing of like of who Jackie of like you know the man
Starting point is 01:16:58 comes home and catches the wife washing her big fat ass in the sink yeah like that I think has like really like stayed stayed around for decades and I'm like that's where it's from and I don't know there's like that i think has like really like stayed stayed around for decades and i'm like that's where it's from and i don't know there's like there's this whole like journalistic like oral history or whatever uh on vulture about like because everyone claims to have been in that room and like again like the hoojacky room the hoojacky room there but again there were like 30 people in that room at least and like but like over the years like this story has like
Starting point is 01:17:22 warped where like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have been like, I was there when Who Jackie happened. But it's like, no, you weren't. Well, isn't that interesting? I have to say for that writer who said, who did say Who Jackie, what he needs to be is fairly paid on residuals. Thank you. I don't know where, I don't know where Roseanne is getting played, but that person, it's besides the point that person needs to be Who Jackie writer needs to be more fairly paid on residuals did i ever tell you about years ago i knew someone who wrote on joan cusack sitcom in
Starting point is 01:17:51 the 90s oh my god and apparently one day she came into the writer's room and was like really frazzled and like not happy with what the writers were doing and they were like why and she said there's just too much conflict oh and they said huh she's yeah there's too much conflict can i just come in and jump on the bed and they're like joan that's not really how like episodic television sitcom comedy works like there needs to be conflict in the episode because that's actually where the comedy comes from and that's how storytelling works she's like well i don't know i just want to jump on the bed that's the thing is like when you build the show around an actor sometimes they have actor brain and they want to come in and jump on their bed and my
Starting point is 01:18:34 other favorite thing a good friend of ours was writing on a show with two actors um and she asked the vibe of another writer she's's like, what do they like? What do they do? And the writer says to them, you know, this really is just an excuse for them to make their noises. I'll tell you off air. Listen, an actor's brain can be so beautiful
Starting point is 01:18:57 and so complex, and I will watch any actor interview, actor roundtable, whatever. Sometimes an actor brain is so silly. So small. So small. Carry on to it, so small. Not a dig at Joan Cusack, obviously. No. She's a gorgeous brain. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Have we ever talked about Kristen, the Kristen Shenoweth sitcom on NBC that lasted one season? Oh god, no. Was she on that? Was Joan Cusack on that? No, she was not on that, but I'm just saying, like, I I miss when we built a sitcom around one person for, like, a fun voice they had. Well, stay tuned. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Okay, so it's I Don't Think So, Honey. I think I'm ready. I think I have something that I could do. Oh, and my phone's here, actually. Oh, great. It appeared. A wild phone appeared. A wild phone appeared. A Pokemon reference. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey, the difference in quality between the Pirates of the Caribbean and Walt Disney World and the Pirates of the Caribbean and Walt Disney World
Starting point is 01:19:45 and the Pirates of the Caribbean and Disneyland. The Walt Disney World one is way superior. I feel bad for all you California girls. The Pirates of the Caribbean Disneyland version takes approximately a half an hour to get through. There's 5,000 boats, so you're constantly jamming up. And the animatronics are not
Starting point is 01:20:01 giving what the girls are giving in the Pirates of the Caribbean Orlando. Not to lift up any Johnny Depp animatronic, but I'm just saying it looked like the real doll. Not to call Johnny Depp the doll. But in many ways, he was a walking, talking doll. That's what an animatronic is. Okay, that's what a doll is. Period. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:20:18 But I will say the parts of the Caribbean and Orlando had production value. I couldn't tell where the ceiling started and the wall started. This is huge. It also moves a lot faster. And I'm just saying, we got to get through these things. The Disneyland and Pirates of the Caribbean, some people that had gone on it five years ago are still on it. We will never find them.
Starting point is 01:20:35 They are ghosts just like Johnny and Co. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. So that's just something I realized, because I've been to Disneyland a bunch since living in California. And the Pirates of the Caribbean, there is a miserable experience. Whereas yesterday, I had a wonderful experience on the Pirates ride. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Apparently, one of the only haunted rides in Disneyland, we were told. Didn't you say they're making a movie about the red-haired pirate? Or is that someone we were with? I don't have this insider knowledge. So do you remember how a few years ago they changed Pirates of the caribbean from very much rape culture to girl boss culture the way they did that was there was a scene where the pirates were auctioning off women there was like an iconic scene in parts of yeah it was like an auction of women and one of them was that had red hair yeah it was very problematic and so what they've done there they were selling the redhead and after
Starting point is 01:21:22 there was uproar about this, obviously, justifiably, they changed it to the red-haired woman became a female pirate, and she was running the auction. Interesting. So then, apparently, there was supposed to be a movie about her, but it's in development hell. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:21:39 We know what that looks like. Likely story. Likely story. That's coming back, Matt said. Oh, yeah. I'm bringing back the phrase likely story likely story that's coming back matt said oh yeah i'm bringing back the phrase likely story when it's not likely okay so bowen yang i'm ready to do your i don't think it's funny if you're ready to give it i'm ready to give it and it's i'm gonna go there oh shit
Starting point is 01:21:56 damn it i'm gonna bite the hand actually oh jesus me no no no never you i am famously the hand no okay this is bowen yanganks i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey disney contemporary resort for changing its theme to incredibles yeah i don't really get it i know that the theme is i know that and you know in 71 when the park opened you know this was one of the this was one of the starter resorts. This was, this resort opened with the park. Amazing. At the time, this was incredibly state-of-the-art ahead of its time aesthetically.
Starting point is 01:22:32 And look, that aesthetic has remained quite timeless, but I think it's sort of, it's sort of cheapens the whole thing if the aesthetic is Frozone and Edna Mode on every damn wall and the wallpaper being Jack Jack and Mrs. Incredible, Elastigirl Incredibles is one of my favorite movies
Starting point is 01:22:54 in all of Disney Pixar I feel like I cannot really stomach the colors and the mod theme too much, it kind of goes with contemporary, but not really. And that's what I'm in it. Yeah, to be mod and also contemporary at the same time is an interesting... It kind of makes sense, but it kind of doesn't.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Right. They do love their IP here. I mean, everything is changing to IP. I get it. I get it too. But I am in agreeance with you that it feels odd that everywhere you look, it's Incredibles. And it makes you feel like, can Incredibles as an IP withstand an entire hotel? I suppose yes.
Starting point is 01:23:29 I suppose yes. But listen, I would have loved it. And this would have been much harder. And probably not. It would have not hit with the kids, with the family staying in this building. Right. That's the thing too.
Starting point is 01:23:39 We have to remember Disney is for kids. Disney is for kids. But I feel like a Tron thing would have been fun. You literally have the monorail come in. It feels very like, oh my God, like the magic of- You want to stay in a Westworld hotel. Not necessarily. I'm like-
Starting point is 01:23:55 What do you say? I just think the theming is a little off the mark here in this particular building. Owen wanted to stay at the Four Seasons and I said no. No, Matt. This is what I'm not biting the- I'm definitely not biting the hand when you're the hand you did every matt plan this trip to perfection i'm just saying this is not a mat note this is a the building because i i saw before they rethemed this it was a perfectly lovely perfectly sort of like you know 70s era hotel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And I'm like, something got lost when they... And contemporizing, which is a word. Yeah. They committed to the IP thing. And that's what's contemporary for them. They're doing the IP thing. Sure. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:24:38 We have had not only a wonderful trip so far that will continue. We're actually, we're with Dave Mazzoni right now. We're being joined by Sudi Green. Later in the week, we will go enjoy Universal's parks and experiences and resort. Very excited. But we have also had a great episode today. We've had a great episode today. And it's always great to drop in with sister and
Starting point is 01:24:56 enjoy time together in the same space and get a little tactile when need be. Which is right now. We're actually wearing our magic bands, which we've decided are the fashion accessory going forward these magic band pluses there's fireworks going off in the back there's fireworks going on oh my god this is truly the finale of the episode there's fireworks going off at the castle right when i was gonna say that magic band pluses are cunty well literally that's
Starting point is 01:25:20 happened several times like we'll say like magic bands are cunt and then like the fireworks the fireworks will start like etc like that's happened many times wow if you'll say like magic bands are cunt. And then like the fireworks, the fireworks will start like, et cetera. Like that's happened many times. Wow. If you say cunty and in Disney world, there will be fireworks. Gunfire.
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