Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Media Is Having a Moment" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Episode Date: April 26, 2023This is a culture catch up about legacy MEDIA! And this media includes being put in your place, being self-indulgent, sharing psychics, ContraPoints, drones in Oz, Kelly's new singles, wedding playlis...ts, and a very gay X-Files? Canned messy talking heads? Are the sisters next? Media personalities are being hunted but don't worry because vacation is slaying and certain sponsors are staying. We're talking corporations, globalization, and making memories with friends! An informative break down of what it means to be a reader, finalists, and/or a Kayteigh. Yes it's true, these gay guys just want to hear themselves talk. Anyway the sisters are at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida! Mother??See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, man.
Where?
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas.
Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling.
Welcome to the mother convention.
The mother convention.
Meghan Trainor's on Kelly Clarkson.
Officially, the mother convention has begun.
Wait, we can't start the podcast calling Meghan Trainor mother.
We were the first to call Meghan Trainor mother.
No, we weren't.
You were, not me.
Don't drag me into this. You're already done been been dragged and that's what you need more than ever now that
you're at your high heights as you need to be dragging you want to be dragged today not by you
no i just think the public should drag no i don't want you inviting this because then i'm gonna have
to hear about it later no what are you talking no i really do think you want the public to drag you
i want someone to put me in my place in a way that is like helpful and i guess you are the only person
uh honey got a therapist honey my therapist i see your therapist i'm paying my therapist to
validate me at every turn and i go do you read that article that's like is therapy making us
more selfish you know for the very first time a few weeks ago my therapist said to me that maybe
my behavior was a little indulgent.
And I was like, honestly, thank you for saying that.
Even that's a little too nice of a frame.
No, I don't think it was.
Just for anybody.
Like, was he trying to say she?
Excuse me.
Oh, my God.
First of all, check yourself.
I wreck you.
It's really culture.
Number 99.
Check yourself before I wreck you. And's rule of culture number 99. Check yourself before I wreck you.
I can do that.
My gender bias is only because my therapist is male.
Your gender bias is showing like a penis in a G-rated film.
Get it out of here.
Get it out of here.
Your gender bias is showing like your FYP is showing on your TikTok.
Not for other people.
Mother.
Don't show it to others. No,
she told me that my behavior, because in the hashtag wake up my breakup, I was doing things
that like were sort of like self-carry. And then at one point she said, is this crossing over into
a little indulgent? Because I did go see a psychic. Yes. Which I've not necessarily been
honest about on the podcast until now. But I did go see a psychic at a time when I was doing not well. And I saw more than one. And then my therapist, I think from a place of concern,
because she told me that she's seen a lot of people give a lot of money to psychics when they
feel desperate because they're so good at what they do. And she said, not only should you not
be giving this person money, but is this behavior a little indulgent? And I was like, interesting.
Now that I feel sufficiently dragged,
I'm going to stop doing this
for financial and personal reasons.
And that's what it took.
Yeah, I think that at that point,
I was like, I'm going to stop seeing
this particular psychic who,
and you went to the same one as me.
I went to the same one as you
and we had vastly different experiences.
Yes, I basically, and I don't know if this will shock the readers, but was immediately susceptible same one as me i went to the same one as you and we had vastly different experience yes i basically
and i don't know if this will shock the readers but was immediately susceptible to everything
this psychic was saying and bone was more like i don't know about queen well i don't know about
queen but she honestly like i think she sat me down and was like this is what literally happened
she sits down with matt for 45 minutes. Patrick Rogers and I are standing outside.
Just kind of like, okay, well.
First, she's like, do you want them in the room?
And I was like, yeah, they can be here.
And she went to the other side of the room.
Yeah, but you could hear everything.
Sure.
No, you could hear everything. We weren't really making sound, though.
We weren't making noise.
No, but this is so funny.
We go to the psychic because we're kind of just having like a girl's day.
Yeah.
And so then you guys are sitting there and the psychic goes not making a peep no you were fine but it was
funny because the psychic goes i'm gonna tell you the truth i'm not gonna tell you what you want to
hear i'm like okay yeah and she's like are you sure you want them there and i was like yes they
can be here and she goes your home is in la no she doesn't even ask she doesn't la doesn't even
come to her i think you volunteer that information. You're like,
yeah, I'm visiting from LA.
And she goes, LA is your home. LA is your home.
That's where good things are going to happen for you.
And I look over at my two biggest champions for moving
back to New York, which are Bowen Yang and Patrick Rogers.
And they both have these sour pusses on.
I'm like, we hate her.
And then she goes,
she goes, I need both of you out.
You two need to leave. I'm picking up your energy.
You guys have to leave.
This was the dead of February, I want to say.
Freezing cold in New York.
We were like, okay, I guess.
And so then Patrick and I were standing outside for 45 minutes.
We're like, wow, I guess Matt is really connecting with this person.
Yeah, lo and behold, it will shock no one to hear I'm in there crying
because this girl is absolutely nailing it and slaying it.
She's killing it.
She's saying things that no one else could know.
It was my Tyler Henry Hollywood medium moment.
Okay.
Is this fair of me to say that she was slaying and initials of names of people and saying what their connection
to me relevantly was. And then she was going in and saying emotional things that only I had
thought or only I had heard. And then I was like, oh my God. And then of course she goes to,
you need to come back for life coaching because you-
We need to work together.
Yeah. She goes, we need to work together. You need
cleansing. You need it really
bad. She points to me and she said,
your love life is a mess.
And she's like, everything else is good, but with love
you need cleansing. And when someone
looks you dead in the eyes
and says you need cleansing and it's an emergency.
That's terrifying. That is also
how they get your money. To scare you?
It's very, only I can help
Which is a dangerous sentence readers
Can we just level set
It is just past 9 in the morning
We got up at 8 in the morning
We're in Orlando Florida
I'm looking at the magic kingdom right now as we say all this
I'm looking at it
We spent a gorgeous day in the parks
And that's where we're coming from
We're sort of broken down at Disney that's where we're coming from. We're just, we're sort of-
Broken down at Disney.
Broken down, but we're getting back up.
We're going to crest another hill today.
I mean, it's just going to be,
our pleasure centers are going to explode by the end of this.
But I think that honestly, yesterday we sort of went hard
and did so many of the major rides and attractions
as we'll get into.
And that's why I think today we're able to drop in
and be so raw.
That's so true.
Okay, so basically
you had that amazing experience
with her.
I walk in.
Opposite.
I sit down with her
and she goes,
yeah, you're fine.
Yeah, everything's good.
Ah, your third eye.
Your indigo chakra
is a little...
Indigo chakra.
Your third eye
is a little clouded.
Hmm.
You can pay me
this crazy amount of money to get it cleansed.
And I was like,
okay,
why not?
Yeah.
Here's my card.
Text me tomorrow at 3 PM.
It'll take me 24 hours.
This one wanted to stay in touch.
And I was like,
okay.
And then the next day I call her at three.
She'd just gotten off the phone with you.
Yes,
she did.
And she was like,
it took me a long time.
It took me a long time to clear it, but it's cleared.
And I said, thank you so much.
She said, you should be able to feel something in the next 24 hours.
I was like, okay, sure.
And then she's like, you can keep working with me if you want.
And I was like, no, I think I'm okay.
That's who she was.
She had her grift and no problem.
And I'd feel bad even calling it that.
No, I think that's probably true. I think someone like that is excellent at performing
in a way that makes me jealous.
I go, I wish I had that.
I cannot convince-
You would be an amazing psychic.
I cannot convince someone of that.
And I cannot like close like that the way she did.
And I'm impressed.
I'm impressed.
Here's what I'll say.
So immediately I go to my real therapist, my actual professional, she, and I said to her, I was like, I have to tell you, this is embarrassing, but I've seen this person more than once, like, because I'm not doing well and I'm now like embarrassed to say I'm a little bit like hooked on because it's that thing of like you're wanting more information and I'm someone who always wants
more information in life but like that doesn't necessarily like come easily and it also is not
helpful for you so I was in this place of like just desperately grasping at like straws emotionally
so like I say to my therapist I'm like she's got me I know it like but I know I say to my therapist, I'm like, she's got me. I know it. Like, but I know I have to stop going to her because it's like not real information.
It's this like ooey gooey, like psychic stuff.
And I want to know, like, and I was like, you can't even answer this question for me
really.
But like, is this real?
Do people have this?
And my therapist said, yes, people do have a heightened sense.
I mean, I believe this to be true. In my dealings with more than one client, they've described this feeling of expressing
something to a psychic and that what they say is uncannily accurate and really, really,
really stuff that, of course, this feels cliche now because we've all seen the TV shows.
No one could have known.
But I will also say these people are also business people
and their intuition is their skill.
And so that's what they use to manipulate people.
Like, yes, what they do is real.
But she said, what you have to remember is
a psychic or a medium can maybe intuit what is happening
or like make something more clear for you
or like explain something that might be going on,
but they cannot make things happen.
So once they start telling you like,
oh, I need to work on you
or oh, I need to work on this person,
that's where what they're doing is.
That's how they get you to make something happen for them.
Yes, and give them money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, literally.
That makes a lot of sense.
I love that way of putting it.
Yeah.
It's not bogus.
No,
no,
no.
It's also not entirely above board.
Their intuition is the thing that I consider myself not having the best intuition.
You have great intuition.
But I feel like for that person,
let's say for the person that we saw together, she could intuit that like i was like skeptical skeptical and
that intuition is the thing that like helps their business sense which again like i know
sounds redundant and obvious but it's like it's interesting how like one thing feeds into the
other which it's it's it's an oraborous kind of thing yeah i just think you other, which it's, it's, it's, it's an Ouroboros kind of thing.
Yeah.
I just think you,
I think that it's true.
You do present more like,
Hmm.
Yeah.
You present more Scorpio and I definitely present more Pisces.
I think I presented as a very vulnerable and you were presenting as like,
now what's this?
Like,
why did this just take 45 minutes with my best friend?
Right.
And I never said that i didn't
even push back in the room when she was like you're fine i was like oh really and i wasn't
even like that you were like that's news to me no no i was like i was like really because and i and
i i would say i was also like in a weird place at that time and i was like there are things that i
would love to whatever but for her to look you in the eye and say you need cleansing uh that that does not sit
right with me yeah because i look at my friend and i go he's perfect well girl i definitely needed i
needed something at the time it just probably wasn't that and now looking back i'm like
well it's just funny because like the last session i ever had with yeah with this person
in person over the phone in person i. I went three times, I think.
Okay.
And they read the tarot cards and everything.
And they're like,
oh, I wish I could say it was getting better,
but it's not.
And I was just like, oh no.
And then she was telling me more things.
And I was just like, you know what?
I'm realizing right now,
I actually have to stop doing this.
I was like, this is no longer-
You said that to her?
Yes.
I was like, I don't think this is good for me anymore.
And she was like, well, you know what? Every time I look at your cards, I know you're this is no longer. You said that to her? Yes. I was like, I don't think this is good for me anymore. And she was like, well, you know what?
Every time I look at your cards, I know you're going to be fine.
Oh.
And she was like, so you don't have to keep coming to me and you don't have to give me any more money.
That's interesting.
She actually said that.
She was like, every time I look at your cards, everything is fine.
It's when I look deeper that things aren't so great.
Other people.
And I was just like, all right, well.
And then she started doing the thing where she was asking for personal items and stuff like that.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm not going to go there.
I'm not going to do this.
And it was over at that point.
But she did say to me at one point, she was like, yeah, I'm looking at your cards now.
And things could go a whole different way.
And I was just like, yeah, but the first time I came in here,
you said I needed to keep working with you
because there was only one path forward.
And now you're saying you're looking at the cards
and like, hmm, actually I could be fine.
It was just like, oh,
it was that moment where you realized you got got.
And of course, everyone I talked to about this is like,
well, when you scheduled the appointment,
she probably looked you up, but we did a walk-in. We did a walk-in. Yeah, exactly. So that part was like spooky. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. We did a walk-in and it was under someone else's name or yeah. Well,
no, it was a walk-in. It was a walk-in period. Like there was no, she did not know who was coming
in. And then Patrick Rogers house did not get a reading done because he was like freaked out by
it. I think. And the second time i came back this psychic said
to me i knew your third friend wasn't gonna get a reading i knew it i knew it right and she was
like what's the deal with him and i was like we're not going there no we're not going i was like i
don't want you to tell me anything about like no no it was not and also nothing that she was saying
was like ultimately real right the things that she did to me she my intuition
stayed the same she cleaned out my chakras i might have even gotten worse yeah i think i think i
ended up having like a mental breakdown like the next week like i don't think she was necessarily
helpful she was like you're good girl i'm like, no. It was truly hurtling towards rock bottom.
Anyway. Damn.
It was an experience
and it was, I will say,
a moment of me
going, I'm concerned for my friend
and you going,
let me. And I said, okay.
And I say, this is
you and I, as friends,
giving each other the space to figure it out for ourselves. It's really giving Scully and Mulder. And I say, this is you and I, as friends, giving each other the space to figure it out for ourselves.
It's really giving Scully and Mulder.
And I do think that we could do an X-Files.
I think that would be a chic idea for us.
A charged emotional sexual.
A charged emotional sexual X-Files that's homosexual like you've never seen.
Homosexual like you've never seen.
It should be reboot X-Files homosexual like you've never seen homosexual like you've never seen it should be it should
be reboot x files homosexual like you've never seen if you guys if readers katie's publicists
finalists out there could all sort of make some mock-ups for posters for x files starring bowen
yang and matt rogers for the upcoming for the upcoming x files homosexual like you've never
seen for hulu because it'll be a fox
show by the way do you remember when i said there's constantly x-files reboots and you were
like no and then they announced a new one they did yes i guess i'm just not x-files is a huge
blind spot for me you know i tried at one point i did i tried it's not really my genre as you all
know but i liked the intrigue of it like Like, I liked the idea of that central relationship
of I want to believe,
I don't believe.
I was interested
in the sexual tension
between them.
And I actually,
I'll say it right here and now,
and you tell me if you agree.
Find David Duchovny hot as hell.
I think this is
a widely agreed upon notion.
Yeah.
Of course.
And Jillian.
Honey.
Honey.
They had it going on. They had it going on at all ages. Timeless beauties. Tim, of course. And Jillian. Honey. Honey. They had it going on. They had it going on
at all ages. Timeless
beauties. Timeless beauties.
This fall on Bravo.
It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all?
I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately.
We're friends like that. Who needs enemies?
You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being
Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in?
It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt
Lake City. We don't wear pastels, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out. You broke the rules
and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty
and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
This episode is one of the most honest
and raw interviews I've ever had.
We go deep into Jelly Roll's
life story from being in and out of
prison from the age of 13 to being
one of today's biggest artists.
We talk about guilt, shame, body
image, and huge life transformations
i was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble i
encourage delusional dreamers be a delusional dreamer just don't be a desperate delusional
dreamer i just had such an anger i was just so mad at life everything that wasn't right was
everybody's fault but mine i had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.
I was the kid that if you asked what happened,
I immediately started with everything but me.
It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
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And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
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We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through.
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iheartwomensports should we talk a little bit about the way our vacation has been slaying
the way vacation has been slaying is i can't describe it it's a genuinely new experience
and it's an experience that was amplified by substances a hundred percent we sort of just you know had our
little uh mushroom game on and we sort of walked into the parks and began to slay and it's
interesting actually because i'm looking out at the window which is we're at the disney contemporary
resort and i'm looking out at the window and i'm literally seeing the construction on what was
splash mountain they're turning it into of course princess tati's bayou dip michael hartney that's a michael hartney joke it's princess
tiana's princess tia's bayou adventure but literally yeah michael hartney in 2020 tweeted
when they announced splash mountain was closing he said can't wait for it to be called princess
tati's bayou dip and then it pretty much to be called princess tati's by you and then it pretty much was
basically called princess tati's by you tip so just know that when they do open this ride
it is forever henceforth known as princess tati's by you thank you michael hartney i think starring
jennifer lewis i asked her i was like mama are you gonna be in the ride and she was like and i don't
know what if she knew what the fuck i was talking about, but she was like, oh yeah! Yes. Oh, of course!
And I was like, I don't think...
I was like, this was probably recorded
eight years ago, knowing the corporation.
I mean, if she's
not involved, it's a huge flop.
I hope Prince Naveen is all over that thing.
I hope Prince Naveen
sort of, you know, shows
peen. Shows peen. I always
wanted him to show peen in that movie.
We need more penis
in G-rated films.
Thank you.
Legalize it.
Legalize it.
It's Azurilla Culture
number 49.
We need more penis
in G-rated films.
Legalize it.
Not R.
I don't want to,
they still have
all these codes about
R-rated films.
Been there, done that.
G, I think we start
from the bottom, work our way up.
What's so bad about the male body?
Can I ask that question?
I can't think of a single thing.
That's so bad about the male body that we can't see it in The Princess and the Frog.
Oh, sure.
Sometimes there's, like, ball stubble.
So what?
Grow up.
So what?
Grow up.
Lick it.
I use my Manscaped products.
And this is not an ad.
It's not an ad.
But we have done ads from them before.
But here's the thing.
Manscaped, I'm going to come out here right now and say this.
One of the few products on Las Coturistas that we've been sent and tried and that I then kept ordering.
Has stayed in your life.
It stayed in the conversation in my bathroom.
Let's just say that.
There are some other sponsors that I,
we know I obviously cannot possibly name.
Shall remain nameless.
But have made my life have inconvenience to me
in huge ways.
Oh yeah.
And also other sponsors that are kind of fucked up
in terms of their practices.
But we no longer we no longer
sponsor them but it's very valid people are kind of asking us please stop doing we have not done
ads for them for a while and i've actually when i had a personal twitter i actually did come out
against this sponsor and say hey no no we can't say it but like let's just say we're careful about
what we do sponsorships for all right here's how the sponsorships works
because sometimes i think people are like why is this happening on las culturistas everything that
we are saying with our voice we were asked do you want to do an ad for that if it's not us if it's
like bethany frankel doing an ad for the army that's something that bethany frankel said she
would do and iheart's putting on channel wide okay that's how that works if it's bethany frankl for the u.s army that is not something that me matt rogers and you bowen
yang said we want on las codrillas bethany frankl for the u.s army is an iheart thing
ultimately our podcast is its own advertising platform for bethany frankl for the army
now we're saying we want it to go on so now whenever you hear bethany franco for the u.s army
we should just do an ad for bethany franco for the u.s army just because i gotta go but i just
let me let me tell you about the army okay all right the army is one of the most amazing things
in american history which is obviously the best country they have the america created the
apprentice which i i started on whatever i gotta go i gotta go i gotta go i got so you into enlist
you just gotta go to your US Army dot gov
dot gov make sure it's dot gov
dot gov or else you know it's fake and there's so many
fake so many fake things on the internet lately
and I'm telling you right now it's like you go on TikTok everything is
fake TikTok can shadow ban me I have no idea
what's happening there but I gotta go I gotta go just go
US Army dot com dot gov or whatever it is
you go Google it okay so if you can find my TikTok
after they shadow ban me I'm doing a review on
the branches of the US.S. military.
Yeah, I'm going to go through all of them.
I'm reviewing Army, Air Force, Space Force.
Space Force and Marines.
Marines.
You know, we all dated one of them.
Navy and Navy.
We all dated one.
We'll remain nameless.
I got to go.
I got to go.
My daughter's driving me fucking crazy
and so is my ex-husband.
Still, it's not over.
All right, well,
usarmy.com.gov, whatever I said.
So be all you can be.
I have to say that part.
And now I have to say, what is this? Watch Top gun maverick yeah top gun maverick i gotta go i gotta go um that was bethany for the
actually don't ask no but like i know there have been u.s army ads there have been a lot of u.s
army ads on the podcast somebody said one time like why is there an Army ad on Las Cruces?
We don't know.
We do not support the military-industrial complex, okay?
I mean, can we come out and say that?
We can say that, and iHeart is still going to be like, tough titty, we're still putting Bethany Frankel for the U.S. Army.
It's not that we don't have respect for our men in green, which is, I believe, the color they wear.
Yes, as an expression.
Yeah, men in uniform.
Yeah.
Let's just say that, you know, we do our best.
We try to only give you ads for products that we...
Let's be positive.
What's a good thing we've used that's an ad we've done?
Oh, Hawthorne.
I love Hawthorne products.
I use the sunscreen.
Yep.
Love Hawthorne.
Remember when McDonald's sent us the McRib?
Oh, my God. That was a special day. Remember when McDonald's sent us the McRib? Oh my god.
That was a special day. And that was right
in the throes of lockdown. And I really
appreciated McDonald's for doing that.
Yeah, that was major. Gosh, there's so many.
I mean, obviously Kraft Mac and Cheese.
Oh, Kraft Mac and Cheese has gone down in history.
It's really gone down in history.
So anyway, corporations. We are at
the Walt Disney World Resort.
Like I said, we are staring at the Magic Kingdom.
Highlights from yesterday.
We literally got to do everything.
What was your highlights?
My highlights was I did multiple Rhymes.
I did Ratatouille and I did Tron Light Cycle Run, both of which I had done in other countries.
Yeah, international.
This is, you know, maybe underlining something about globalization
that is good and bad.
I don't know.
But the fact that they were the same experience.
Yes, drag and drop.
Drag and drop.
Well, in a way that was actually comforting.
Really?
In a way that was comforting.
So you feel like...
I feel like globalization is the way.
Globalization is the way forward.
I think every country should have everything the same.
We should all get the same.
Okay?
This actually is rule of culture number 91.
Globalization is the path forward.
We should all get the same.
Guardians of the Galaxy
Cosmic Rewind.
That was artful.
Cosmic Rewind?
I felt like I was going back to the dawn of time.
Well, I have news for you, Queen.
You went back there.
I went back there and we got to write it twice.
Both times we got I Ran So Far.
I Ran So Far.
By Flock of Seagulls.
Flock of Seagulls, right?
So basically when you go on this ride, Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind,
it is a massive, massive roller coaster that's indoors,
and they launch you up,
and in true Guardians fashion,
there is like a classic song that plays during the ride,
and we got I Ran So Far by Flock of Seagulls both times.
We were told we could get Conga by Gloria Estefan.
So you wanted Conga.
I really want Conga bad.
I want Conga bad matt wanted conga i wanted and because multiple people at work were like i really hope you get
this song uh-huh everybody wants to rule the world by tears for fears that's a good one and i it's
one of my favorite songs i would love love love for that to be blasting in my ear as i sit on one
of the craziest coasters i've ever been on. It really was wild.
And we're hopefully going to get to do it again.
And I hope, can I tell you what I hope what happens
and let's get tactile? I hope that
one time it's conga and one time it's
everybody wants to rule the world.
Oh my god, we're crying.
Wait, can we get tactile? We're touching.
I think this is
what Disney is all about.
And it's about making memories with friends and people oh
my god thank you for saying that i also that yeah it was an extremely fun day what did you think of
your experience on rise the resistance that billion dollar project that billion dollar project
at the scale i was just blown away and love was obsessed with going inside outside inside outside kind of didn't expect
it to be like this is the ratatouille ride but to a 20 these trackless vehicles vehicles i kind of
i'm digging i'm like the power of magnets yeah it's really wild it's i'm feeling like a juggalo
because i'm going magnets how do they? Now tell me how it works.
Magnet.
Yeah,
no,
we're having a fabulous day.
Today is going to be more of a chill.
We sort of drink around the world and drink around the world.
Day world showcase.
We're having an absolutely fabulous day at the top of the episode.
We mentioned the mother convention,
which was Megan trainer was on Kelly Clarkson. And then you sort of had a meltdown,
but I think we do have to face the fact
that I think we started this mother thing
with Meghan Trainor.
I don't think we did.
I think we called Meghan Trainor's own mother
more than and before anyone else.
And now she has a full song called Mother.
And basically what I'm saying is
we are the Chris Olsons who go unseen.
We are the Chris Olsons who are not her friend.
Yeah.
We are the Chris Olsons who are saying her friend. Yeah. We are the Chris Olsen's who are saying mother,
mother,
mother,
not on TikTok,
sort of beyond TikTok.
And there is a world beyond.
There is a world beyond TikTok and their lurk,
Matt and Bowen,
who've been saying Meghan Trainor mother for a long time.
Legacy media,
like podcasts.
Legacy media.
Las Cotterices is legacy media.
And that's for the
culture number 78.
Lost Culturess is
Legacy Media.
But whether we've
been saying it as a
joke or not, we have
been saying it.
Lost Culturess is part
of Big Money Players,
is part of iHeartRadio,
is part of...
Say that.
Is part of
Wasteroi Royco.
I know I've heard
Shiv say,
well, we've got
Lost Cult.
Yeah, I think Shiv is a huge reader.
Shiv is a huge reader.
Shiv Roy is a reader.
She's a Katie.
Shiv was kind of the one pulling the strings in terms of the deal being struck.
Yes, yes.
To get Lost Gulch on Waystar.
She was like, these two are a path into a demographic we don't have.
And listen, we were at Disney when Carlson and Lemon were out.
And that makes us two of the foremost journalists
working right now.
Wait, let's pivot to talk about this.
So there's succession to discuss
and there's also the wild media day.
Media is having a moment.
Media is having a moment.
That's actually the title of that.
Media is having a moment. Because is having a moment. That's actually the title of that. Media is having a moment.
Because media had such a moment Monday.
We're recording this Tuesday morning at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida.
Which is media writ large.
Yeah.
And so this is our big media episode.
Lights, camera, action.
So yesterday, Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon out at Fox News and CNN, respectively.
Other things also went down, but we're focusing on these two because it was just wild.
These sort of controversial, polarizing, to say the least, talking heads on different
ends of the political spectrum both got canned and neither of them saw it coming.
And I think both of them sort of felt like protected
because why wouldn't they have already been given the boot?
But both kind of messy girls in their own right.
And let's get into it.
Let's get into it because you're right.
Not to equate.
Can we just say not to equate?
Obviously not to equate.
But for them to go, I never thought this could happen.
That means we're not safe.
You and I.
We could be fired.
After this episode,
after iHeart listens to what we have to say
about the sponsors, they go, you're out.
We are going to be lemoned, carlsoned out of iHeart,
which is our CNN, which is our Fox News.
We thought we were like, we're good, babe.
No, no one's safe.
You are never safe.
And if you're listening to this right now,
I know last time I said, Katie, you're a finalist.
Here's what I'm saying to you today. Katie,'re not safe you might be on the chopping block we're messing
around katie but katie i'm just saying wash your back i'm saying the economy is not doing great
i'm saying we don't have the job security we think we do no we do not media personalities
they're hunting us they are hunting media personalities okay and i'm really
fearful and i'm looking you wide-eyed and tell the readers how scared i look you look very scared
and scary might i add might i add i mean look they're giving everyone a pod they're giving
megan phelps roper a podcast these days to what to a podcast defending jk rowling can we just
everyone wait huh everyone please so you know this big witch trials of jk rowling can we just everyone wait huh everyone please so you know
this big witch trials of jk rowling podcast that's like popping off that's megan phelps
roper the former megan phelps roper wow and she's coming at it from the angle of i know what it's
like to be on either side to like persecute and be persecuted and it's like you know what it's
like to be in a cult for years and brainwashed and now you're only sort of better because you're
just starting the building blocks of humanity she is coming at it from an angle of you need to be able to
have reasoned measured conversations with bigots because otherwise they won't listen to you and
contrapoints did a second episode about jk rowling within like the last three years everyone should
watch it and the reason she's revisiting this idea is because of the witch trials of jk rowling
but basically she's being like yes it's
an interesting point to make it's a very attractive point to make to be like you should actually be
able to like have a conversation with a person that you disagree with because otherwise you know
like what hope do we have but that is to like make megan phelps roper and jk rowling the main
characters of the story which they are not. The main characters are people
who are getting their rights taken away.
And no one is coming after-
And persecuted, murdered.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's like no one is trying to actually kill JK Rowling.
Right.
Or take her rights away or take her money away.
Yeah.
Being in a Twitter fight constantly
because of the things you post on Twitter
is actually not a hardship or a witch trial.
It's you putting yourself out there and putting your views out there.
And when people, like, are angry about it or feel hurt by it or offended by it or feel endangered by it, they actually are allowed to react as strongly as they want.
It actually, like, really brought me back to, like, not to, like, talk about this too much, but it's, like, thank God for ContraPoints points because i'm just like oh right i needed to hear this because for a while i was like i guess like i should try to
figure out a way to like understand the way someone on the other side things and not to get
like even too tribal in my own like in the way i describe myself like the other side lol but i'm
like but it's not about that like that i, I'm sorry, they are NPC. Correct.
They are NPC.
Well, the Megan Phelps roper of it all
always did interest me because she was so,
she went so hard in the paint
for the Westboro Baptist Church.
She was so unmovable that for her to then,
like, I think that, like, the weird thing is
she was like, I guess, de-radicalized online.
Like, I believe she even
ended up getting together with or marrying the person that ended up like which is getting in
her dms and like being like hey if you want to talk about this you are incorrect on the way that
you feel which is also like a weird little textural thing in it it's like yeah oh the person who
de-radicalized you y'all wanted to really marry like fuck each other yeah it's also again centering her perspective
which is yes you were able to be de-radicalized online but that's also not necessarily what
happened because what happened was you did media appearances on behalf of the westboro baptist
church and then you got an overwhelmingly negative reaction which had to affect you
initially right to the point where then you saw the dm and were like let me
engage in this and you also i think love the attention of going back and forth it's that
annoying thing that some people are where they're like you know contrarians and just want to fight
to fight that was the energy that she had like me and you on every episode of this podcast it's
really just noise it's just fighting it's just just fighting. It's just two people fighting. It's just two gay guys
fighting. And the gay guys have such
annoying voices.
And just to hear them fight and squawk
is so disgusting. And they just want to hear themselves talk.
It's true. These gay guys just want to hear
themselves talk. If everyone could
leave a five-star review
and say, these gay guys just want to hear
themselves talk on the podcast app,
that would be amazing.
These gay guys just want to hear themselves talk. the podcast app that would be amazing amazing these gay guys just want to hear themselves talk heart leave that at a five star review bomb the ratings bomb the rating with five stars though and that's called a bomb and that's called
a bomb but she's just again centering her own experience totally which is like i'm telling you
it can happen it's like yes for you but that's also not the full picture totally and you wanted
to fuck the guy and it's also yeah well natalie win does talk about that it's like
this cannot be applicable to everybody because not everyone's gonna marry the person that
deradicalized right that's it and also i'm not saying megan phelps roper is wretched i'm saying
she was wretched now she's like trying her best but it's like this is not the way for everyone
and like to sympathize with jk rowling who again
also does not come from your position because you were living in a relative state of like isolation
jk rowling has had the entire world at her fingertips and all the resources at her fingertips
to educate herself refuses or digs in it just shows her true like inherent privilege and evil
at this point so again it's completely different I don't really use this word too much.
Flop.
It's flop. And I never say that word.
The takeaway, the headline
from this ContraPoints that just came out
is this person is evil.
It's an evil person.
This is wild.
And again, I don't really...
You don't say evil. I don't say evil
too much. when um when
we saw kylo ren yesterday at the rise of the resistance bowen actually screamed the word evil
and it was i just i'm really excited for wicked that's all i'm gonna say i'm just really excited
for wicked if yesterday bowen yang screaming the word evil was a glimpse at his performance in
wicked part one and two you're gonna have to wait till thanksgiving next year for that one Bo and Yang screaming the word evil was a glimpse at his performance in Wicked Part 1 and 2.
Gonna have to wait till Thanksgiving next year for that one.
Then we are in for a spectacular treat.
Elphaba stood no chance when Fanny was in the room.
I can't believe that you as someone, this is, I guess, acting, right?
So Bo and Yang, I think, really spiritually kind of is Elphaba.
Oh my god. And you have the power of Elphaba.
And you know that Elphaba's good,
but you as the actor playing Fanny,
you have to eschew all that.
You have to go in and you have to say things like,
Elphaba evil. My biggest
line, my moment, is a tight
single on me, a tight close-up on me,
and I go, Elphaba
evil!
And then that ends, that ends part one.
You're so good. I get why you
booked this. You're so good.
You're full of shit.
I'm not. You're so good.
No, you can't do this.
I can do whatever I want.
I'm good, too. I know.
Can I audition? Yes. Okay, ready?
Hold on, I have to drop in. This is a really hard part for me. It's not a natural fit. That's why I didn good too. I know. Can I audition? Yes. Okay, ready? Hold on, I have to drop in.
This is a really hard part for me.
I'm not going to look at you.
It's not a natural fit.
That's why I didn't bark.
Elphaba.
Evil.
Wait, I love that.
You're influencing me.
Oh, sorry.
We haven't shot that yet.
Oh.
We haven't shot my Elphaba evil.
I don't want to mess with your process.
On the call sheet it says,
Fanny looks to camera, says Elphaba evil. Elphaba evil. Evil. I don't want to mess with your process. On the call sheet it says, Fanny looks to camera, says Alpha the Evil.
Alpha the Evil.
I will say, this is some BTS,
and it's not revealing too much.
There has been moments where I've like,
where Cynthia and I,
oh my God, this sounds so annoying.
She's your co-star in the film.
It's not that weird.
She and I have like, between takes,
I've been like, this feels really bad
and I'm really sorry.
My character has had to be the cruel to her. Oh, cruel to her oh oh yeah i thought you were talking about your own
act oh no no you turn into cynthia i'm so bad like you have like 115th the size of the part
the street oh god i'm not as good as you i'm not as good as you and she's like it's okay darling
oh i wish i was nominated for an Oscar like you Tony winner
no I was like it was a scene where like
you have to be cruel
and I'm like this feels really bad in like my bones
and she's like I know darling it's fine
don't worry I have this terrible British accent
but she can like she's amazing
yeah oh my gosh what it must be like
to have those actors
stomp around you
and like I said I'm bringing a crossbow to set i'm not
bringing a gun to set anymore because that you know it's a little extreme but i am bringing a
crossbow to set to shoot down the drones that y'all keep sending into the premises stop sending
drones into that artistic environment okay please there were no drones in oz no you're breaking the
spell dear there were no drones and Oz. There was one
liar, man behind the curtain
who lied to everyone. He said
he was really Oz. He was just
a man. More
on that later next year.
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Do we feel we covered the Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon thing?
Um, yeah.
Do we care?
So basically, here's the deal.
Tucker Carlson's awful,
and finally even
fox news couldn't stand him anymore and kicked him the fuck out and it's just like i guess
ultimately because they lost money or whatever or they couldn't stand it anymore but the dominion
lawsuit it's like oh this man law has lied and lied and lied yes yes yes it's like we're moving
away from that it's it's both of these networks like being like oh let's change course let's not
be crazy crazy crazy, crazy, crazy.
Which is, for it to be beyond the pale for Fox News,
it's like, LOL.
Yeah.
And for CNN, it's like, he's chaotic, Don Lemon.
Well, Don Lemon is like,
unfortunately he represented this like,
left-leaning voice that was like, super opinionated.
And I think now CNN's whole thing is like,
we don't want either side to
be overrepresented and so we're just gonna find now we're gonna find personalities who can moderate
discussions between both sides which i think is kind of like such an eye roll yeah but if you
read the article it's like he had said like wild things about women like you know whatever like
saying like nikki haley was quote past her prime or whatever but that was like the tip of the
iceberg it's like if you really
read between the lines like Don Lemon got
fired for doing gay shit behind the scenes
like for doing like
woman hating gay shit
like mean gay shit
that's what you were saying yesterday it was mean gay shit
because he was like literally like sabotaging
these women's careers allegedly
at CNN and Matt and I were like that's such
mean gay that like it's such mean gay like
it gives mean gay outdated like data lounge mean gay shit like oh like boomer ass mean gay shit
and not to this is not to like you know be ageist but it's like there is a like i thought it was a
generational kind of gay man who was like oh you think that about women? Oh, okay. Like it's giving that. Yeah.
And honestly, it's like,
it's kind of wild though.
Like a few years ago,
these people that were on air,
they're completely gone.
Like Cuomo, he's out.
Now Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson.
It's a witch hunt.
It's a witch hunt.
I'm telling you,
media personalities are under attack.
Media figures are not safe.
If you were a media figure,
Katie, listening to this,
turn around and look behind you.
Make sure there's no one with a knife to stick in your back, Katie.
Your gorgeous back.
Your gorgeous back.
This is quickly another thing
that ContraPoints is talking about.
She talks about Anita Bryant
in the beginning,
speaking of Florida.
Oh, damn.
She's like,
and it's, again,
I hate that I'm even bringing this up,
but it's this other way
of representing this idea
that cancel culture is this other way of representing this idea that cancel culture
is this thing that
has always existed.
Anita Bryant was being
virulently homophobic. Everyone was like,
your career's over, babe.
Everyone, and especially
gay men, obviously, around the country were like,
boycott the fucking orange juice.
We're not watching your stupid little movies
anymore. You're done in this business. And it's like, boycott the fucking orange juice. We're not watching your stupid little movies anymore.
You're done in this business.
And it's like, burn a woman for being a witch back then.
Whatever.
No, 100%.
I'm connecting different dots, but it's like,
this is the human condition is that we kill each other.
That's it.
That was really powerful when you said that.
This is the human condition that we kill each other.
That's real culture number 50.
This is the human condition that we kill each other that's real culture number 50 this is the human condition that we kill each other you're correct though in that like this people have always been if they've done something incorrect they've always had consequences for it
it's just that now there's so many people that we know about and there's the information spread is
so immediate and so wide and like you know it's so easy to find out about
these things that we just hear it so much that we're saturated with this idea that people being
fucked up because there's a lot of fucked up people in the world get like fired or tossed or
you know forgotten about or deleted from the internet how do you feel about the loss of the
blue checks so we have pour one out for the blue checks we're going out for the blue checks
everybody we have our iced coffee we have our iced coffee i'm not gonna pour one out for the blue checks. Pour one out for the blue checks, everybody. We have our iced coffee. We have our iced coffee.
I'm not going to pour them out in the resort, but.
But no, but it's just, you know, in spirit, we're pouring one out for.
For the blue checks.
Hope everyone feels good out there and safe on the internet.
And safe.
Be careful.
It's tough.
It's a lot of news outlets are ditching Twitter, which, you know, before an election, before
a general election is tough.
It's a tough one.
I think the future is looking like
it might be a rocky road.
It might be a rocky road.
And we're really getting political
in DeSantis country of all places.
I can't even speak about that demon,
Ron Death-Santis.
Death-Santis traveling the world right now
for no good reason.
He's on the campaign trail.
Governors doing international trips.
Just to pivot.
I don't think so, honey.
Pivot to more happy news
um you mentioned you listened to a couple of songs from miss clarkson she's released some singles
and can i point out something yeah in the song me she literally sings an adora delano
musical melody and line what is it well adora goes when you love me what does kelly sing in that she goes
when i got me but i think she also and she goes when i got me she does a whole like fucking run
she's she's giving the vocals and you notice her gospel vocals on it yes like bury myself like that
like uh yeah yeah yeah that's her big vibrato gospel influence vocals yeah before
the choir even comes in we're talking about me now which is the i don't need somebody to hold me
oh um that is she's giving vocals for sure on both tracks but that i just noticed that she's
kind of like leaning into her her gospel vocal influence and on mine that's more of just
like uh what would you call that my i don't take an alternative pop song it's like it changes tempos
at the bridge which was really i love that i think my favorite out of the two is mine yes i just think
it's really obviously her voice and you know what i love I love about the Kelly Clarkson songs that have just been
released?
Her vocals are in front of the production in a way that you do not hear.
Like it doesn't sound like,
and I'm not dragging anyone,
but it doesn't sound like eight different voices all being heard underwater.
Like a lot of the pop girls now,
it's just like,
we're into the vocal layering and the production,
like being a major,
like,
you know,
it's like a landscape where this is like the vocal yeah and then very spare instrumentation behind it like there's a drum
kit which i love yes you know there's a bass that like sounds great but like it's really about her
voice and the the lyrics which is i think the direction we've wanted even dialed dialed in
that direction from the last even for meaning of life certainly from
piece by piece where piece by piece was a lot of production yeah and you know life was like i'm
obviously you're obviously the bigger meaning of life was like definitely more of vocal event and
it was like genre wise stuff that she wanted to do more because it was like soulful rock pop which
is sort of like what she's always wanted to do i think like she said it was more of
a throwback to what she sang on american out of the show where she was like you know i used to
sing aretha franklin like most of the time and like there was r&b infused pop rocks that was
had soul that's kind of what her thing is and now i think what we're seeing is i feel like either
she's trusted to or not expected to do the pop thing,
or she's just trusted to do what she wants to do.
And so now we're getting more vocal-driven music from her, which is good.
And it's not like, my life would suck without you, which is really wasted on a voice like hers,
which has so much texture and versatility that for her to sing these like pop songs
with only six different notes in them,
which are actually harder to sing live
and not as fun to hear live.
But of course we love the anthems.
We love Since You've Been Gone.
We love all the old Kelly bops,
but like her voice is just better than that.
Yes.
And I think now an audience, the the audience knows this is like her first
batch of original music since like kelly yoki really became a thing i feel yeah and like i
think now people understand her to be like oh she's a vote she can of course she can sing when
she won american idol but like she can sing any song yeah any version genre of song by any artist so for her to choose this as her own
thing yeah is meaningful and important and i think a message is being sent to to us yes as a general
public to be like oh okay this is an interesting direction for her to go and it really is
interesting well we were we were um by the way happy birthday kelly it was your birthday on
monday people have been saying for years like oh why oh, why doesn't she do, like, an Adele thing?
Why doesn't she do, like, an Adele thing?
And it's, like, Adele can do an Adele thing because she started as doing an Adele thing.
And people want her to do that.
Like, it's taken Kelly a long time to be able to do this because she was still, like, servicing, like, the pop machine.
Like, this is my heartbeat song.
And it's, like, songs that you don't even remember right whereas
like now now that she's not expected to be on pop radio i don't think which is you know a problem in
and of itself that has to do with ageism and all all sorts of bullshit yeah um like it's sort of
nice at least for fans of hers that actually like to listen to you know her sing and like things
that are meaningful to her that she's able to do this now. And we're going to go see her in Vegas. Very, very excited. That's going to be the gag.
I did get intel. I was going to say, do you want to share this intel? Because the first thing this
morning, Matt and I get up to go get coffee. Matt gasps, looks like his own gasp says,
I have intel from this. So I have, I had a plant at the Kelly Clarkson show at the Belasco theater
early in the week. And she did the whole album front to back. And I think she's not doing music videos for the album.
I think she's entirely doing her own thing for it. What she wanted to do was she wanted to sing
the album front to back at the Belasco Theater, and it was filmed, and I guess it will be released
at some point. But this is the intel that I got for what happened. This person said,
this person will remain nameless if they know who they are.
They're a legend.
OMG, I think you will love the new album.
It was truly spectacular.
She performed the entire thing.
A lot more upbeat than I expected.
I think my fave was Rock Hudson.
There's a song called Rock Hudson.
I'm obsessed that she has a song called Rock Hudson.
She says something like,
piece by piece, I became my own hero
and I love when artists are self-referential like that.
Another highlight was Def Lighthouse. It's a good title. i would say that this was the most painful lyrically i def cried
during that one it's one of her more emotionally charged albums i would say then there's a song
called red flag collector love it she prefaced it by saying mama was angry y'all yep skip this part
she had to restart twice because she got so emotional it was another
heartbreaker for sure about wanting to skip the hard part after a breakup title track she said
was her jeff buckley moment so what does that mean so it's i don't know i think i think it's
more like acoustic oh i see i see i see magic it's called i also thought it was sweet she
prefaced that by saying the song was about like if i died tomorrow at least i experienced magic then sheila e features on a song she came out and they did a couple songs
sheila e sheila e that's major and then um you know he's obviously said that her voice sounded
amazing but the magic part really got me because i remember thinking that and we're at disney of
all places i know to hear that there was a song called Magic at Disney.
But the concept of like, because I did think that a couple times.
I was like, oh, well, you know what?
If it's over, at least I got that moment of it feeling really good.
And I guess that's what the whole concept of chemistry is, right?
It's like, you get to experience what it's like to be really wrapped up in something and someone and it feels like an invincible feeling.
And then even though it's gone, at least you got to experience it.
Yeah.
Oh.
And skipping the hard part, skip this part, feels very hashtag relatable.
Hashtag relatable.
And people are forgetting hashtag relatable.
You think that relatability culture is going to come back in a major way?
I think it's never left.
I think we're always in it.
I think we're always in it.
We always appreciate relatable.
Who is the most relatable queen?
Honestly, maybe Kelly.
Maybe she is.
Maybe it's Kelly.
And it's not recency bias.
It's just, it's Kelly.
Sheila E., that's very exciting.
Sheila E., legend.
Percussionist legend, of course.ista percussionista we're actually so excited to announce that the
percussionista award is going to sheila e congratulations sheila congratulations you are
a finalist and a winner at the same time did you see that the readers are sort of discussing oh
that there's a four quadrants now?
It's sort of become the Hufflepuff,
the Hogwarts houses.
Damn it.
So now it's, unfortunately,
well, we can take it back.
No, no, no.
People are identifying in one of four ways.
A Katie, a reader, a finalist, or a publicist.
And it was so fascinating.
I saw some conversation online
about how people felt they fell into different boxes, and it was a publicist. And it was so fascinating. I saw some conversation online about how people felt
they fell into different boxes
and it was very equal.
Really?
Yes.
Here's what I think the difference is.
Katie is that person
who listens
and they're feeling
like very comfortable
and at home in it.
Yeah.
And they're saying,
yes, yes,
back to the podcast
when we speak.
Yes.
I think a reader is someone who is diligent and consuming.
This is huge.
This is so major that you're actually defining it.
Please.
And I think a reader is diligent and consuming and is obtaining information.
Yes, yes.
And they are the ones who go out and they're doing it like to fill out the cultural self.
Yes.
The publicist is, I think, someone who takes information from this
and takes things from this
and they go out and spread gospel.
That's interesting.
Publicizing.
Does it also work the other way
where I feel like I learn so much from publicists?
I'm saying the publicists in the Las Culturistas sense
where so many publicists reach out to me
and they go,
here's some information for you
that I think you might enjoy. And I go, I would have never known. Thank you. And I appreciate them
so much equally as the others, but there's a certain thing that publicists do and that really
I appreciate. That makes them different from a Katie or a reader. And finally, a finalist is,
I think, someone who comes late and actualized to the
podcast and they feel as though this is something i can add to their media diet that gives them
another weapon in their already completed arsenal wow i think a finalist is an elder that that say
that that's just how i feel about it but maybe you can interpret it differently no no no i think
that's a great clearly you've thought about this yeah and well i mean i was just so enthralled by the reader sort
of going about their sort of identity they were finding their identity in an interesting way
and i loved watching it and i love to see it and and one thing that's coming back
i love to see i love to see it now we we do want to address something. We wanted to get on this sooner.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the quote-unquote ticketing system for the Culture Awards this summer, June 17th.
Damarash Park at Lincoln Center.
We are so sorry that people ended up waiting hours and hours on a queue.
The queue system is just to apparently view the website.
Yeah, that was it.
I mean, so basically what you need to know is that this is a free event and you just have to show view the website. Yeah, that was it. I mean, so basically what you need to know
is that this is a free event
and you just have to show up at it.
You just have to show up at it.
There is on Monday, June 12th,
the opportunity to claim tickets on the website.
So that is something that if you go back
to the Lincoln Center Summer for the City website
and go to the event listing,
that is maybe an opportunity to
claim tickets. But we have on
Good Authority that most people who came
and waited standby last year got in.
So come a little
bit early if you want.
A lot of people described positive
experiences meeting other
readers, Katie's publicists,
finalists. And that
was such a fun night.
So if you can make it, we would love to have you there.
An announcement's coming soon about nominees and presenters, special guests.
But sorry that it's a little bit more confusing than it needs to be,
but that's only because it's actually way easier than it needs to be ultimately,
which is really you just show up.
You just show up.
Or on June 12th, you can procure some sort of ticket.
Yes. And I don't think so, honey 12th you can procure some sort of ticket. Yes.
I don't think so, honey. People going oh, Boy Genius is not... I mean
you paid money for that.
And you might see him again.
Yeah. You won't see us again ever.
All I'm saying is I see Boy Genius
pop up all the time. Okay, Boy Genius
is going to keep performing. Las Cotricas may never
perform again. That's true. We may never
perform again. Media
personalities are under attack.
Including us. Are we in a feud with
Boy Genius now? We'll lose.
We'll lose. We can't be
the biggest Moonist stans in the
world and then also be in a feud with Boy Genius.
Did I get into, like, that I went to
Coachella and everything? Did I get into that?
But you can get into it more.
Well, I'm just saying, like like one of the great moments was watching
Muna just absolutely destroy.
And then Boy Genius all came out.
Well, Phoebe came out obviously first during Silk Chiffon,
which yesterday Bowen Yang was in his poncho.
And I said, oh my God, Silk Chiffon.
I didn't hear that.
Oh, that's how you were.
But you were in your poncho.
And I said, oh, maybe it was Dave.
And I said, Silk Chiffon. you were but you were in your poncho and i said oh maybe it was dave and i said and um it was just a little joke we were doing about how our ponchos at disney world were made
of silk chiffon but anyway um so soft phoebe came out and then all the boys came out and it was just
like watching the six of them all together it was just so fun it It was powerful. It was powerful. So proud of everyone.
So overjoyed.
Seriously.
So overjoyed.
I said powerful lesbian energy.
Powerful bi queer energy.
Say it.
Say the word queer. Say the word.
Queer is here.
Can we just say rollercoaster number 98?
Queer is here.
Should we move on to Adam's Thanks, Honey?
Do you want to say anything about Succession?
I need to catch up. I do want to say
oh my gosh, everyone better
start watching Mrs. Davis on
Peacock. Oh yeah, get into it because now you've seen it
too. I've only seen the first two episodes because I went to the premiere.
I'm on episode three. I still have to finish
up this week's, the premiere batch of
episodes. This is right up my alley.
So good. It's so excellent.
I knew you'd like it. These
excellent performances across the board. Betty Gilpin. Yeah's so excellent. I knew you'd like it. These excellent performances across the board.
Betty Gilpin.
Yeah.
Crown it.
Crown it.
I said to her, I was like, you know, yet again, you find a way to make every choice brand new.
She's so just idiosyncratic, but also it's still, it is that thing of like character actress.
I was just going to say. Like is lead in a way where it's always interesting and specific.
And like she has found yet another project that is interesting and specific.
And that she fits into perfectly.
And we are lucky to have a show this cool and fun and different.
That's led by this cool and fun and different that's led by this cool and fun
and different of a performance. And it's kind of has to be seen to be believed. It's one of
those things I can't explain super easily, but that's like the Damon Lindelof of it all.
Which if you were a Damon Lindelof fan, this is capital F, capital Y for you. And also you'll be
thrilled to know, I mentioned this on the podcast,
that it's the funniest he's been
because he is a funny person.
He's a funny person.
And credit to Tara Hernandez,
who was his co-creator on this show.
Yes.
He, I think he said that like,
I'm not the funny one.
That's her.
I'm the weird one.
But I feel like his weirdness
and his like grandiosity
in terms of his storytelling
is a perfect match for this kind of humor.
That is like weird,
but not like weird in like the,
I don't know.
It's not like esoteric weird.
It's like quirky weird this time.
It's like, you know what I'm saying?
And even quirky feels like.
Quirky is like a slur.
I don't like quirky at all. It's like rule of culture number nine.
Quirky is a slur.
We have to get rid of quirky.
And I literally, I hate that I even said it.
No, no, no no no but
it's because that word has been burrowed into our psyches yeah and it's like we need to like let it
i hate quirky i hate quirky no one's quirky no one is quirky died in like the early 2000s with
and this is not a pejorative i'm not shitting on this movie but quirky died with like 500 days of
summer like we did quirky we moved on like you know what i mean like and i love 500 days of summer but i
feel like in that it's like it died with thematic pixie dream girl you know what i mean like quirky
is oh i don't i just i hate quirky i don't like twee can i say i think me you and sudi are all on
that oh we we are so anti twee iwee. I know, I know.
But, oh my God, Mrs. Davis is excellent.
Oh my God.
Before we move on, I don't think so, honey.
We all need to be listening to Flow.
Their EP has been out for like about a year at this point,
but I think they've done live shows recently,
and specifically in New York though.
So again, this is a very like solipsistic,
like, oh, if it happened in New York,
then it actually happened.
But at least in New York, I feel like, and because I've been out this week, I'm off of work and like, I'm like being social again.
Like everyone's like, have you been listening to Flow?
I'm like, yes.
And excellent, excellent, tight harmonies, tight girl group vibes, Y2K throwback.
Love it.
Yeah, it really is giving like Destiny's Child back in the day.
It's actually, I think, directly inspired by that.
It's directly inspired by Destiny's Child,
3LW, TLC.
Which is fun. SWV.
Me and Nick Laughlin were kind of like,
oh, it should be called FLO, but it is
pronounced Flo. In that tradition of
three letters or whatever
and you say each of them individually, but it's Flo.
And it's not even like their initials or anything
it's just flow but I love it and
excellent there's some like very
very little mix vocal quality
in there too so if you're looking for a girl
group you found it
and it was Bowen Yang who pointed you there
no no no it was they've been around
but I did write them off as like
unfortunately I did write them off as like
algorithm artists I was like okay this is this is like that happens all the time it happens all the
time and look we love them but i was like okay like i'm gonna add this to my library i'm gonna
let's sit and then i'm gonna see you know sometimes you need something to cook in the library for a
little bit yeah yeah before it like really works its way into like your rotation yeah and it's
really worked its way and there's one song that I really like that's come out which is like
it's like pretty generic pop song
I don't know if you've heard it
it's called Lost the Breakup by Maisie Peters
it's like Carly Rae Jepsen
I love it I love the sound
it's just a cute little song
with a very nice little bridge
I think a couple people have compared
the writing to Taylor Swift
it's sort of like if Taylor Swift
being like Taylor Swift
meet a British version of Carly Rae Jepsen
that's kind of what her voice sounds like
but she's got a cute little song out called Lost the Breakup
and I've been listening to it a lot
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which is sort of the thing that we do every episode, I'd say, Beau.
It's kind of the thing that's been constant.
All right.
So now I'm trying to, I've just had such a wonderful few days that, and also, by the
way, let me just mention, and I can't believe I didn't mention this because we got directly
into the culture, but my sister got married this week.
And Chelsea Rogers is now Chelsea Frazier.
Chelsea Frazier.
And it was such a lovely day and my sister was the chillest coolest
most gorgeous bride ever she looked amazing everyone was so happy peter her husband was
so emotional throughout the ceremony and i'm just so happy i got to officiate the wedding it was the
first time i'd ever done that and um i said in my speech like what i was most impressed about by them and like uh what i loved
about them so much is the peace that they give each other that's they just beautiful they just
truly live such a peaceful like loving supportive life and i think that that is something that in a
partnership like is a value that i think often gets overlooked is does the person make
you feel calm and make you feel at peace and make and i i've just there's such an emblem of that for
me and so i i tried to infuse that in my speech a little bit and just that they're motivated by
time spent together and i said you know i'm just proud of them and happy for them that they found
someone that they can start now and it's like the beginning of a lifetime of more time.
Like,
I just think that that's such a,
a great,
beautiful thing.
So I just wanted to celebrate my sister,
my little sister who got married,
my one sister.
And we had a beautiful wedding in St.
Pete,
Florida,
friends and family dancing the night away.
And of course,
you know,
the DJ got it crunk.
Yeah. When wrong, course you know the dj got it crunk yeah when wrong because you know
like it's that thing of like at weddings that you go to for people our age sort of the high school
music comes back when i tell you that like yin yang twins little john was playing at this wedding
and i look over and i just feel like my aunt maureen and aunt patty and it's just like wow
to the windows to the wall you listen to this music and you're like this
really was everywhere
and if you were not comfortable
with it it didn't matter it didn't matter
listen if you hate it if you
had and I'm sorry to bring this back up
if you have misophonia
and the whisper song came on
R.I.P. R.I.P.
that's actually rollercoaster number 88
if you have misophonia and the whisper song came on R.I.i.p r.i.p that's actually real culture number 88 if you have misophonia and the whisper song
came on r.i.p um that's beautiful and you failed to mention on the pod and you failed to mention
you kind of buried this what did i read you were like oh chelsea was the chill spread i was like i
believe it and then you tell me last night dinner her plumbing went out three days before the
wedding and she had to get well water to like clean herself and she did not let that affect the mood at all she was like yeah yeah my water went out like yeah
well she i could tell she was stressed um but she was basically like yeah the water went out in like
her apartment complex oh my goes out and gets water from like somewhere brings it into the
bathroom so she can literally flush a toilet and then a frog jumped out of the of the bucket like
because the frog had been in the water that she got and she was literally like it was giving
amelia bedelia it was giving plates spinning that vibe but and imagine getting married 48 hours
later just imagine she's probably one of the first people in history who had a frog a fucking frog
about her toilet it It was unreal.
Days before they got married.
It was just unreal.
And Katie's, I mean, that is a true testament to how chill this bride was.
It's possible.
Chelsea Frazier.
Say it loud.
Say it proud.
It's so weird that she has a different last name.
I almost didn't assume that she would take it.
Chelsea Frazier, I love.
Chelsea Frazier is great.
I mean, it's kind of an even trade with Chelsea Rogers, Chelsea Frazier.
You kind of make the same mouth sounds.
The oral posture is the same.
Frazier, Rogers.
Well, she married Brendan Frazier.
Oh, that's so fun.
Yeah, it's so fun.
We love having him in the family.
He doesn't love my take on the whale,
but that's just one of the things
family will have to get over.
You know?
I'm so happy to have my brother-in-law,
Brendan Frazier, around now.
Well, it's I Don't Think So Honey time.
This is I Don't Think So Honey, the 60-second segment
where Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers, that's us, actually,
if you were confused.
We take 60 seconds to rail against something in culture
that needs a railing, okay?
Sort of like us.
High five.
I need it.
I actually would love that soon.
I would love that.
Well, you have some time. How much longer do you have time off?
Depends on if the strike happens.
Oh, yes! There might be a strike, and then
Bo and Yang can get railed all the doodah day.
I would love that. Fingers crossed.
I would love to get railed for labor solidarity.
By the way, I would like to say in a real way,
you know we voted yes on that strike
authorization. We are in big, big
support of the WGA. We're actually both
members, and we will
be hitting the streets to pick it post haste and we hope that everything works out for the best but
we are ready the 2.5 percent of people who voted no in the guild i go okay yeah what happened there
i don't know i mean they must have their reasons maybe it was a slip of the finger on the website
no i think some people are like some people are like no we can't do that yeah well they have good
reasons for it which let's not get into it maybe i mean some people are like some people are like, no, we can't do that. Yeah, I feel they have good reasons for it, which let's not
get into it. Maybe those are like literally
all of the studio execs
who happen to be in the guild
and also are represented by
MPTP. I'll say this. There was one tweet
and take it with a grain of salt,
but there was one from a particular show
where apparently a lot of writers
on this one particular very popular
comedy show voted no
and i'll let the readers and the katies and the publicists and the finalists it was cheers it was
cheers i'll let them all do their own digging on that but i thought it was interesting and i didn't
dive deep enough to like really understand what was happening but it seemed like there's one
comedy show out there that's super popular critically and like you know commercially where more than one person
voted no anyway before we move on speaking of writers i need to read this like piece on vulture
about um the who jackie of it all what's i didn't realize that who jackie was like such a prolific
urban legend at this point in terms of comedy writing where there's apparently a story of, so this is back in the days of Roseanne.
I'm literally asking who Jackie.
So Roseanne, back in the day,
like peak Roseanne, right?
Roseanne Barr would bring in like,
the writer's room would be like 30 people.
She would just bring in like random ass people
she saw at the club.
And like, they'd be hired for like 10 episodes
and then they'd be like,
fall away as soon as
they came and like people be like oh wait that person worked for us so the norm mcdonald was
describing this this is like the origin of the legend there's this one writer who's who gets
brought in is like this like some comic from some club that roseanne must have seen doesn't say a
for two years two full seasons is in the writer writer's room, doesn't pitch, doesn't say anything.
Right?
And this will sound familiar in a second.
And then one day,
they're trying to come up with story
ideas for the episodes. And then one day, this writer
finally says something and goes,
what about an episode where
John Goodman's
character comes home and he sees
Roseanne, he catches Roseanne
watching her big fat ass in the sink.
Watching her big fat ass in the sink?
And they've literally done like a 30 Rock episode about this.
Like, hasn't like, haven't you heard like,
she's watching her ass in the sink.
Like, it comes from this story.
And then they're like, oh, that's kind of crazy.
I don't think we can show that.
And then this writer goes, well, it's not Roseanne. You find out
it's her twin sister.
And then
they're like, oh, well, Roseanne already
has a sister, you know. Canonically.
We already have Jackie. And then the writer
goes, who Jackie?
Has been in there for two years.
Who Jackie?
Who Jackie?
Who Jackie?
Who Jackie? I love who Jackie
but like I've heard some version of like it does
sound familiar like it's a very like it's like
a comedy inside joke thing of like
comedy writer let's say inside joke thing of like
of who Jackie of like you know the man
comes home and catches the wife washing her big fat
ass in the sink yeah like that
I think has like really like stayed
stayed around for decades and I'm like that's where it's from and I don't know there's like that i think has like really like stayed stayed around for decades
and i'm like that's where it's from and i don't know there's like there's this whole like
journalistic like oral history or whatever uh on vulture about like because everyone claims to have
been in that room and like again like the hoojacky room the hoojacky room there but again there were
like 30 people in that room at least and like but like over the years like this story has like
warped where like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have been like, I was there when Who Jackie happened.
But it's like, no, you weren't.
Well, isn't that interesting?
I have to say for that writer who said, who did say Who Jackie, what he needs to be is
fairly paid on residuals.
Thank you.
I don't know where, I don't know where Roseanne is getting played, but that person, it's besides
the point that person needs to be Who Jackie writer needs to be more fairly paid on residuals did i ever tell you about years ago i knew someone who wrote on joan cusack sitcom in
the 90s oh my god and apparently one day she came into the writer's room and was like really frazzled
and like not happy with what the writers were doing and they were like why and she said there's
just too much conflict oh and they said huh she's yeah there's
too much conflict can i just come in and jump on the bed and they're like joan that's not really
how like episodic television sitcom comedy works like there needs to be conflict in the episode
because that's actually where the comedy comes from and that's how storytelling works she's like
well i don't know i just want to jump on the bed that's the thing is like when you build the show around an
actor sometimes they have actor brain and they want to come in and jump on their bed and my
other favorite thing a good friend of ours was writing on a show with two actors um and she
asked the vibe of another writer she's's like, what do they like?
What do they do?
And the writer says to them,
you know, this really is just an excuse
for them to make their noises.
I'll tell you off air.
Listen, an actor's brain can be so beautiful
and so complex,
and I will watch any actor interview,
actor roundtable, whatever.
Sometimes an actor brain is so silly. So small.
So small.
Carry on to it, so small. Not a dig
at Joan Cusack, obviously. No.
She's a gorgeous brain. Oh my god.
Have we ever talked about Kristen, the Kristen
Shenoweth sitcom on NBC that lasted one season?
Oh god, no. Was she on that? Was Joan Cusack
on that? No, she was not on that, but I'm just saying, like, I
I miss when we built a sitcom
around one person for, like,
a fun voice they had. Well, stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Okay, so it's I Don't Think So, Honey.
I think I'm ready. I think I have something that I could do. Oh, and my phone's
here, actually. Oh, great. It appeared. A wild phone
appeared. A wild phone appeared. A Pokemon reference.
Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey.
His time starts now. I Don't Think So,
Honey, the difference in quality between the Pirates
of the Caribbean and Walt Disney World and the Pirates of the Caribbean and Walt Disney World
and the Pirates of the Caribbean and Disneyland.
The Walt Disney World one is way
superior. I feel bad for all you California
girls. The Pirates of the Caribbean
Disneyland version takes approximately
a half an hour to get through. There's
5,000 boats, so you're constantly jamming up.
And the animatronics are not
giving what the girls are giving in the Pirates of the
Caribbean Orlando. Not to lift up any Johnny Depp animatronic, but I'm just saying it looked like the real doll.
Not to call Johnny Depp the doll.
But in many ways, he was a walking, talking doll.
That's what an animatronic is.
Okay, that's what a doll is.
Period.
Oh, my God.
But I will say the parts of the Caribbean and Orlando had production value.
I couldn't tell where the ceiling started and the wall started.
This is huge.
It also moves a lot faster.
And I'm just saying, we got to get through these things.
The Disneyland and Pirates of the Caribbean,
some people that had gone on it five years ago are still on it.
We will never find them.
They are ghosts just like Johnny and Co.
I don't think so, honey.
That's one minute.
So that's just something I realized,
because I've been to Disneyland a bunch since living in California.
And the Pirates of the Caribbean, there is a miserable experience.
Whereas yesterday, I had a wonderful experience on the Pirates ride.
I didn't know.
Apparently, one of the only haunted rides in Disneyland, we were told.
Didn't you say they're making a movie about the red-haired pirate?
Or is that someone we were with?
I don't have this insider knowledge.
So do you remember how a few years ago they changed Pirates of the caribbean from very much rape culture to girl boss culture the way they did
that was there was a scene where the pirates were auctioning off women there was like an iconic
scene in parts of yeah it was like an auction of women and one of them was that had red hair yeah
it was very problematic and so what they've done there they were selling the redhead and after
there was uproar about this, obviously, justifiably,
they changed it to the red-haired woman became a female pirate,
and she was running the auction.
Interesting.
So then, apparently,
there was supposed to be a movie about her,
but it's in development hell.
Uh-huh.
We know what that looks like.
Likely story.
Likely story.
That's coming back, Matt said.
Oh, yeah.
I'm bringing back the phrase likely story likely story that's coming back matt said oh yeah i'm bringing back
the phrase likely story when it's not likely okay so bowen yang i'm ready to do your i don't think
it's funny if you're ready to give it i'm ready to give it and it's i'm gonna go there oh shit
damn it i'm gonna bite the hand actually oh jesus me no no no never you i am famously the hand no
okay this is bowen yanganks i don't think so honey
his time starts now i don't think so honey disney contemporary resort for changing its theme to
incredibles yeah i don't really get it i know that the theme is i know that and you know in 71 when
the park opened you know this was one of the this was one of the starter resorts. This was, this resort opened with the park.
Amazing.
At the time, this was incredibly state-of-the-art
ahead of its time aesthetically.
And look, that aesthetic has remained quite timeless,
but I think it's sort of,
it's sort of cheapens the whole thing
if the aesthetic is Frozone and Edna Mode on every damn wall
and the wallpaper being Jack Jack and
Mrs. Incredible, Elastigirl
Incredibles is one of my
favorite movies
in all of Disney Pixar
I feel like I cannot
really stomach the
colors and the mod theme
too much, it kind of goes with contemporary, but not really.
And that's what I'm in it.
Yeah, to be mod and also contemporary at the same time is an interesting...
It kind of makes sense, but it kind of doesn't.
Right.
They do love their IP here.
I mean, everything is changing to IP.
I get it.
I get it too.
But I am in agreeance with you that it feels odd that everywhere you look, it's Incredibles.
And it makes you feel like, can Incredibles as an IP withstand an entire hotel?
I suppose yes.
I suppose yes.
But listen, I would have loved it.
And this would have been much harder.
And probably not.
It would have not hit with the kids,
with the family staying in this building.
Right.
That's the thing too.
We have to remember Disney is for kids.
Disney is for kids.
But I feel like a Tron thing would have been fun.
You literally have the monorail come in.
It feels very like, oh my God, like the magic of-
You want to stay in a Westworld hotel.
Not necessarily.
I'm like-
What do you say?
I just think the theming is a little off the mark here in this particular building.
Owen wanted to stay at the Four Seasons and I said no.
No, Matt.
This is what I'm not biting the- I'm definitely not biting the hand when you're the hand you did every matt
plan this trip to perfection i'm just saying this is not a mat note this is a the building
because i i saw before they rethemed this it was a perfectly lovely perfectly sort of like you know
70s era hotel. Yeah.
And I'm like, something got lost when they...
And contemporizing, which is a word.
Yeah.
They committed to the IP thing.
And that's what's contemporary for them.
They're doing the IP thing.
Sure.
Sure, sure, sure.
We have had not only a wonderful trip so far that will continue.
We're actually, we're with Dave Mazzoni right now.
We're being joined by Sudi Green. Later in the week,
we will go enjoy Universal's parks and
experiences and resort. Very excited.
But we have also had a great episode today.
We've had a great episode today. And it's always great to drop in with
sister and
enjoy time together in the same
space and get a little tactile when need be.
Which is right now.
We're actually wearing our magic bands, which we've
decided are the fashion
accessory going forward these magic band pluses there's fireworks going off in the back there's
fireworks going on oh my god this is truly the finale of the episode there's fireworks going off
at the castle right when i was gonna say that magic band pluses are cunty well literally that's
happened several times like we'll say like magic bands are cunt and then like the fireworks the
fireworks will start like etc like that's happened many times wow if you'll say like magic bands are cunt. And then like the fireworks, the fireworks will start like,
et cetera.
Like that's happened many times.
Wow.
If you say cunty and in Disney world,
there will be fireworks.
Gunfire.
Oh,
sorry.
Sorry.
Okay.
This has been Las Cotterias with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
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