Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Mila & Natalie Announce the Las Culturistas Culture Awards Categories"

Episode Date: July 28, 2021

The time has come...for the girls to do...what they set out to do. Mila (Matt) and Natalie (Bowen) get together to finally announce the categories for the long-threatened Las Culturistas Culture Award...s. It is the most ambitious event in Las Cultch history, and we want YOU, the readers, to be a part of it. Campaign! Act like publicists for who YOU want to win. Before they get to all that, the two hosts discuss getting sick but not with Covid, Gaga and Tony: One Last Time (we are going!!!!!!!!!!), Ariana Grande on The Voice and as a Disney gay, pop stars as reality show judges, and rumors about the origins of the Taylor and Katy feud. The big event.....begins now! The Las Culturistas Culture Awards....coming soon (we really don't know when)! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 Wow. Oh, my. Oh, and look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Oh, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. You are joining us in progress. We are currently having our 1500th conversation about how Bowen is Natalie and I'm Mila. I mean, we were saying, you know, I'm rolling. We were telling our beautiful sound engineer, Doug, hot sound engineer, Doug. Bracingly hot.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Bracingly hot. You brace yourself. You have to sort of grab what's around you. As if, you know, your vehicle's about to crash. That's how hot he is. And then I said, I'm rolling. And then Matt fully, seamlessly went into the... You've never rolled?
Starting point is 00:03:06 Oh my god. It's like meeting the night sky wait we might not be getting the exact quote right let's say it's this so you can see the night sky i don't know exactly what she says but something about the night sky but reader and i'm sure you can feel it in in your audio experience but i I was like, Matt, you are such a Mila. It's crazy how you're a Mila and I'm Natalie. In the Natalie-Mila binary, which is already a frontrunner for title of ep, I'm very much the Mila and you are Natalie. And my onscreen boyfriend is Ashton Kutcher,
Starting point is 00:03:43 yours is Justin Timberlake. That also makes sense to me. It makes 100% sense because listen, gun to your head, and this is sort of us finally answering the question of no strings attached versus friends with benefits, right? Yeah. Gun to your head.
Starting point is 00:03:57 You can fuck Ashton and be his friend with benefit, or you can have a no strings attached situation with Justin Timberlake, even though those film titles are switched. What do you choose a no strings attached situation with justin timberlake even though those film titles are switched what do you choose no strings attached featuring natalie portman and ashton kutcher because there's greta gerwig guy brandon meet mindy kaling as co-stars so you're sort of picking the movie i'm talking about carnal desire i'm saying do you fuck ashton or do you fuck justin timberlake ashton 100 and i know your answer is actually ashton once and for all because we've talked about on this podcast how justin the stock
Starting point is 00:04:30 really plummeted after a certain age listen sometimes with sex this actually is a rule of culture i'll get to it but sometimes with sex it doesn't even matter like it like i think gun to my head i would rather have sex with justinberlake. I think it would be better than sex with Ashton Kutcher. I mean, the only person who might who's closest to knowing that would be Mila Kunis, I think. For simulating sex on screen with Justin and for actually having sex with Ashton.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Well, I don't know. I wonder. I feel like she picked, she made her choice. And she made her choice. Oh, you're saying there's definitely people out there who've had sex with both of them. Absolutely. Well, no, no, no. I wonder about Mila and Justin. I'm just saying things happen on the set.
Starting point is 00:05:08 In fact, I was thinking about this. I was like, if you're doing a sex scene with someone and it's like pretty much the whole movie, you probably just fuck them, right? I mean, if it's consensual and everyone's good with it. I don't know how. Can I tell you something? You can tell me anything i am being put in the position of uh having a romantic interest in in in a fictional setting and in a sitting you know in a controlled environment i know such as a movie set and i think and it's really it's i think it's
Starting point is 00:05:41 my first real experience with it and i, and the lines do get very blurry, even though the boundaries are very, very, very clear to me. I'm like, oh, but it's so strange to shift gears between realities. And that is very, very disorienting. And I understand why you got Neela and Ashton together, why Bennifer is an enduring thing. Why, you know, why Zendaya- Famously Brangelina.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Brangelina, why Zendaya dates all of her, you know, romantic interests. And I'm like, I really, I don't relate to them really, but I think it makes more sense to me the more time goes on. Look, as someone who's being put in a similar situation, I also can confirm the lines do blur, and it's fun okay and also chemistry
Starting point is 00:06:26 is hard to come by chemistry is not just something that just oh no no no that just walks along and also i know it don't i know it and so listen i all i'm saying is and it's sort of it sort of comes back around to a discussion we once had about um you know we're also dealing with actors who famously you know that they have like their little moments of narcissism and when a narcissist shines their light on you it's easy to you know be susceptible to that yeah and there's something romantic about it i've thought about that idea a lot ever since one miss busy phillips introduced that concept into the discussion between us. I was like, I've never thought, I told the guy who cuts my hair this, I was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:09 someone recently told me, Busy Phillips, that, you know, what narcissism means in this context. He was like, that makes so much sense. Totally. Because really what it is, is narcissists want external validation of what they are pretty sure is true internally, which is that they're the best. And so they'll go to extreme length. I've thought about this a lot too, since Busy said that. And TBH, I've had to self-examine and be like, have I done that? And I feel like to some degree, in some instances, I've done that every now and then.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Absolutely. I'm agreeing that you have probably no no no no no but you're saying you too as well yeah because i think it's also like you know when when you want someone to like you like you do the most you go for it as in the words in the words of king patrell we we go for it go it. And I would say, I told you my new housewives tagline. Yes. Oh my God. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Tell me to tell the readers. From the coast to the coast. I'll be doing the most. I didn't know. You have not told me that one. Oh, what's the one I told you? I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:18 I, I, I find it so funny that I broadcast it to the world on my stories, which is over text. Oh, new housewives tagline. I'm looking for a husband. Plline. I'm looking for a husband, plural.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I'm looking for a husband, plural. And that's, of course, I also have, I have another one, which is, I'm a triple threat.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. I'm really good. I really famously have never had one. We'll never find one. I'm too scared to find one. Well, let's talk about what yours is. No, no, I don't want to do this. I don't
Starting point is 00:08:50 want to do this. I feel like I had one time last summer when I was hanging out with you and Joel. I remember coming up with one that I was really happy with, and then it just fully escaped me. I have a good one for you. I don't want you to give it. You can't give it to me. Yes, I can. You think that you think that housewives don't get pitched taglines?
Starting point is 00:09:07 You think they all are in a writer's room doing their own? As a creative person, I want to come up with it on my own. But I'll hear a pitch. What is it? Here's my pitch for you. Okay. Uh-oh. Live from New York, it's me everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Everywhere all the time. Or, or, live from New York, it's me all over the world. That's really good. Really good. Because it has to be, and this is what I love. The rubric. Well, the rubric is intersection between
Starting point is 00:09:39 smart and stupid. Yes! And that is what you, that is your, that is where you shine. I, there's really no one better who does it. Thank you. I really, I really,
Starting point is 00:09:50 I really truly believe that. Oh, can we just get, just, can we just, um, talk about what's happening? You know,
Starting point is 00:09:56 me and Matt are, Oh yeah. Yeah. Ill. Well, it's not. And, and just in the boring way of delayed gate,
Starting point is 00:10:04 like late wave gay cold like like long gay cold you know they say long covid persistent cold persistent cough persistent cough and um the tests keep coming back the covid tests keep coming back negative neg neg neg i mean they just keep rolling in negative but i don't know about you but for me it's been like two months almost oh that has been that long for me, it's been like two months almost. Oh, that has been that long for me. I'm sorry. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And I thought I was in the clear last week. And then weirdly enough, I get this bizarre cold again. And it's a productive cough. Productive. So that means not COVID. And also I keep getting COVID tests. I did go to the doctor today. And I also want to say shout out to the doc because he's a listener
Starting point is 00:10:47 and i i went to the doctor today and he did say oh yeah we've been seeing a lot and his eyes widened of those in terms of positive covid cases of the vaccinated so i guess my whole thing is just like i don't know i know everyone was annoyed about the mass indoors but like i'm like hosting shows again i'm doing things but then it's also like you can't be testing positive and then work like i'm about to do a job and so now i'm just kind of like am i quarantining again we have got big things on the schedule bo we've got big things on the schedule i know and i gotta i I gotta, I gotta be careful. I gotta be careful.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Well, should we tell the readers what we're doing? Sure. We're going to see Gaga and Tony. We're seeing Gaga and Tony. We're going to wear masks the whole time though. At Radio City. That's that,
Starting point is 00:11:39 that, that is what we can, you and I can agree upon. Oh, absolutely. I wasn't sure how you were feeling about that because I was like, because to be,
Starting point is 00:11:47 can I be totally honest with you? Yeah. My default mode going in was, I'm not going to wear a mask. Yeah. But as soon as, but you and I checked in earlier today and you were like,
Starting point is 00:11:56 no, we're going and I'm going to wear a mask the whole time. It was like, of course. And I will do the same. Well, I think that everyone should make their own decision. I think if you're comfortable being there and like New York is not mandating masks indoors. Like, let's just say this without saying too much.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I think you have less to lose than I do. Like, I think if I test positive, I'm going to lose a job that you will not lose. So I think like, for me, it's just like, I'm going to go extra careful and don't feel the need to wear the mask because of me. The only reason I'm even going is because my reasoning is, no, it's not. I'm not wearing the mask. I hate that it took you to get me to wear the mask, but, uh, I feel like, um, it is the right thing to do in that situation. I think that if I'm just basing it based on what I'm seeing and how I'm feeling, it's not a big deal for me to wear a mask inside at an event like this.
Starting point is 00:12:58 We've all done it. We've all worn a mask for hours and hours and hours. Yeah, so the outrage about wearing masks again, I don't really get because it's like you can see that cases are going up. Why don't we just like take the extra step? Like we've done it for this long. We can do it for a little bit longer because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I'm like, I'm still optimistic about the whole thing. Like I know it's awful that cases are going up, but I genuinely feel like this will get more people vaccinated because they'll see the severity of the situation. I'm an optimist like that, perhaps too much so, but I just could not imagine not going to this because it's going to be
Starting point is 00:13:34 history. It's going to be historic. I mean, it's likely Tony Bennett's last one last time. It's, it's, it's, it's a little self-awarely sad it knows it's sad it's sad
Starting point is 00:13:48 and you know and tony bennett what an icon i mean like one of the few like living legends can you can you can we actually say i know we're biased because we love gaga but in hindsight cheek to cheek is like what what a fucking amazing thing that gaga did and they both did but like a crazy a perceived wild career move from gaga back then that everyone was like what what the fuck is she doing but it's like yeah i think it ages very well and it like it really puts gaga and like this crazy and this different you know echelon as a performer this is pre-stars born mind you and now like in the post-stars born sort of you know the stretch of gaga's career it's like it all made sense all of it all of it still make all
Starting point is 00:14:39 all of it holds up on an artistic level and i just i just think it's really special and you know that i was blasting cheek to cheek when it came out i was singing gaga's version of bang bang my baby shot me down you were and it's something to behold it's really when when bowen yang sings bang bang my baby shot me down the gaga version the gaga version with henry kapurski accompanying i mean it's truly i feel bad for everyone that hasn't seen it but i will i will i will say this and you were really doing this doing the rounds with it too there for a while it was like when bojan got to the piano we were all like already waiting for it to happen i never could figure out like an i when henry was doing that i could i never could figure out like an iconic song because you had a lot because you you had a lot of great you you you succeed in a lot of ways do you know what song i loved doing was foolish games by jewel
Starting point is 00:15:29 oh my god because i like to bring the drama yes you need something dramatic um but anyway just circling back to um cheek to cheek i think like it was it was even more i think in doing that she shocked everyone and surprised everyone more than anything she could have done on art pop like in terms of the content of art pop it was like we were prepared for a song called like swine you know what i mean we were prepared for all of it like you could even say like it wasn't like i when i heard she like like got vomited on or whatever during the promo it was like that didn't surprise me as much as her doing an entire like standards album with tony bennett i was like wow what an interesting move what an interesting musical flex and then i think that really set the tone for her being this like you know new queen of reinvention in the way that she is and it just showed that there were so
Starting point is 00:16:25 many like hands that she hadn't like shown yet you know what I mean I still think she's got tricks I really do I 1000% agree I feel like she's never she's never going to be someone that people
Starting point is 00:16:41 aren't going to be interested in with what she's doing you know yes I used to say that about her when i wasn't like a gaga stan which i really am now like and especially i don't know i've said this before on this podcast but i do believe it's true like i think for people that are still having problems with their identity gaga's tough like i think people that like um people that don't love themselves don't love Gaga. And then when you're really ready to love yourself, you're ready to come out and say how much you love Gaga because you do.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I don't disagree. I don't disagree. I think that's a huge statement, but I don't disagree. I think if you don't love Gaga, you don't love yourself. And it's rule of culture number one. If you don't love Gaga,
Starting point is 00:17:22 you don't love yourself. Because love and hate are a binary. If you don't love yourself because love and hate are a binary if you don't love yourself then you hate yourself yeah yeah if you hate gaga you hate yourself honestly i i remember when she came out with like um like i was remember like when applause and roar came out like truly within 24 hours katie cat and i was i was on the other side i was like it's gaga meanwhile now it's like in retrospect we can appreciate that like roar is a good pop song but but applause is like a statement applause is art applause is our pop that whole albums that whole album no okay so everyone now of course is like is like, oh my god, Justice for Art Pop, which I love. I embrace this movement. But everyone needs to really read up on the promo period cycle of that album, which was chaotic.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. Also, that was the point. It was her at the fucking, it was at Swinefest, which was the iTunes Music Festival, where she, you know, kind of went nuts. And then South by Southwest was where she was vomited on. And then she did the keynote in a trash bag in gray dreads. Right. And talked about how the music industry is broken and how record labels were evil. And then you rewind and you go back to her doing all the Marina Abramovich stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like the video of her doing the upstate retreat where her tits are out and she's wearing like a like a blindfold with cones coming out of the eyes and then it's just her and then it cuts to her lying down on the floor inside some building and she goes hey do you know what i'm talking she went she spent like a whole week yeah like off the grid with marina like doing this whole artistic retreat and i'm like she's committed to this idea of art pop yeah and it's so powerful and it's it's really it's it's it's something that when she like you know what i appreciated when she came out as a helicopter yes i was like she came out and she said i'm the first human helicopter and she barely lifted off the ground and honestly at the time i was like this person has gone completely off their rocker flop but looking back i'm like no every moment of this was art pop it
Starting point is 00:19:33 was perfect it was the artist as pop art it was it was it was speaking to each other in a way that yes you could barely understand it but that is the point that's it was a raw scotch a rorschach and then she no it's like it could be anything rorschach could be pronounced any way yes you know what you're right i am art pop you are art pop you are the coons is you and then her speaking of which working with jeff like that was such a crazy move and like Jeff Koons is very controversial and but like she like was fully committed to that idea of like no I'm gonna have a Jeff Koons sculpture made made for me with the blue orb and like it's just all of it was so I don't know I just I you you everyone knows how I feel about Gaga I just had my born this way
Starting point is 00:20:23 10th anniversary shirt come in the mail that I ordered like two months ago. I just, I will always love her and I'm so excited to see her with my sister. It's going to be so fun. I hope we don't get COVID. And that's what we're talking about. But I think if I get it from like Gaga somehow, that's actually fine.
Starting point is 00:20:40 But the thing is like the cheek to cheek out of ArtPop makes perfect sense to me. Then she was fully committed to that. And then cheek-to-cheek into Star Is Born makes total sense, too. Well, there was Joanne first, right? Oh, no, you're right. I'm sorry. It was cheek-to-cheek into Joanne.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It actually makes even more sense. Because you get the sense that it's, like, all barreling towards something. You know what I mean? And, like, there was that, like, countryness of A Star Is Born, which felt informed by Joanne. Yes, yes. And I don't know. People hate on Joanne, which felt informed by Joanne. Yes. And I don't know. People hate on Joanne, but I fucking love Joanne. Oh, I listened to Come to Mama today, Sinner's Prayer. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:21:12 I just feel like if you're a Gaga fan, if you're a little monster and you're like, but we all know Joanne, dot, dot, dot. Shut up. Keep your mouth shut. Keep your mouth shut and go watch the John Wayne video which is the spiritual successor to Telephone and Paparazzi.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah. It is the third installment of the Jonas Akerlund-directed Gaga music videos, I believe. I love when she's riding on that horse and she hits that tree branch. To me, that's comedy. Oh, it's pure comedy.
Starting point is 00:21:41 She's a zombie in that music video. She's not a zombie in any other music video it's it's really incredible that is that is christ-like and that is still a catholic imagery this girl is amazing i love this girl is amazing this girl this girl's amazing in the words of gwen stefani to celine dion i love this girl i love this girl i love this girl right here this girl is crazy love this girl i love this girl by the way congrats on the wedding blake and gwen blake and gwen congrats congrats on the big wedding what did you see that by the way speaking of blake did you see the promos with ariana uh shooting the voice promo of ariana shooting the
Starting point is 00:22:17 voice promo she wrote a very emotional post about how yes she's like so excited to do it and she's like i'm already thinking about the people i have to say goodbye to and we haven't even started doing anything and i'm like this girl is into it i'm excited you know that she is that girl because here's the thing about ariana she's florida she's a disney gay bitch ariana grande is a disney gay it's rule of culture number 71 ariana grande is a disney gay i have tea about a number 71. Ariana Grande is a Disney gay. I have tea about Ariana that she goes to Disneyland a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I've heard this tea that she will sometimes just want... One time it was like 11pm and she was like, I want to go to Space Mountain. I want to go on, not to Disneyland, I want to go on Space Mountain. And then she got driven with her Seven Rings friends or whatever to go to Space Mountain. They rode it once and then like she got driven with like you know her you know Seven Rings friends
Starting point is 00:23:05 or whatever to go to Space Mountain they rode it once and then they left and I'm like that's amazing I believe that some version of that is true on a deep deep level like I I don't know like when I see her in Frankie Grande and when I know like the Florida-ness of it all
Starting point is 00:23:21 and when I know that she was a Broadway girl and when i really like think about who she is i'm like this girl is a disney gay and so some it's something about disney gays and there's a science to this but when the voice came out and you got to hit a button and the chair would turn when you hear a good singer she of course wants to hit a button and have a chair turn she was like oh my god this reminds me of the haunted mansion like literally yeah literally she she watched that show and i bet ariana was like an american idol fan when she was little so you know she's probably gagged
Starting point is 00:23:55 about kelly i mean you're talking about like her best friend was demi lovato or like they were they were really close demi lovato stands kelly so all these young singers like stan kelly from when she was on american idol because she was the one like for for like suburban girls who are watching american idol like kelly is a thing kelly is a thing and use oh and like in the little shots of the promo you could see like ari like really gravitating towards kelly on the subject of demi can we just really appreciate i need to go back and watch this but the footage of when demi was uh x on x factor with britney like yeah they like we really have to give credit to demi putting themselves in that position when like
Starting point is 00:24:36 most of america would have been like who the fuck is that girl yeah like back then you know so it's like that so like i don't know like demi has always as another person who's always made really interesting career choices they don't always work in the way that we are used to like the pop people the pop the pop gals let's just say like for for um for semantics for group sake yeah for grouping sake um uh this is not to race their gender but uh anyway, I just, I feel like Demi is someone who has always been interesting. And we've talked about Demi a lot. But Demi in the X Factor days, I'm like, why need to go back and watch some of that? Because they were doing something really, I don't know, cool and different.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I don't know. Well, what it was, was they were on with Britney Spears. So I believe that what happened was, and this is sort of the way that they- Britney clearly didn't like it. It was something that Jamie made her do. Yeah. Obviously. I think it was just, you know, they thought they were going to get something they weren't going to get,
Starting point is 00:25:37 which is Britney on a show like that, she doesn't have a big personality. You know what I mean? She's not going to hit you with like a big, like a soundbite. But neither does Demi. But Demi did actually. And if you watch the old interviews, they were the ones that did a lot of the press with Simon because they had a relationship with Simon
Starting point is 00:26:02 that was very, they they would yeah yeah and so if you actually go back and watch a lot of the press around x factor at the time it's almost like they realized with britney they weren't going to get like this relationship like this paula abdul type relationship with simon and demi was there i think knowing the assignment yeah and i think that you're right demi is demi is very smart and funny and not that britney isn't but britney at that stage i think was just a different vibe and i think like if you watch like judges houses which i have like she's very concerned about like um you know she gets assigned the young kids she gets assigned the the under 16s or whatever no uh britney britney oh yeah and and i think like
Starting point is 00:26:52 you know it's it's interesting because and you know obviously that was a very staged and produced show maybe the most out of all of them but britney wasn't giving big personality the way that demi was and i think that it's interesting because that's obviously not what they thought was going to happen. You know what I mean? It was like Ellie Reed and Demi on the one side of the table. And then it was Britney and Simon. I think that they hoped that Britney Spears would bring this big, outsized, like, Christina Aguilera on the voice personality. But that's just not who she is.
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Starting point is 00:29:34 Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Starting point is 00:29:53 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You know, who were to, when it swung so far the other way, so that it failed was with Mariah and Nicki. And I actually went back and watched. Okay, so Matt and I have this friend from college named Colin Kordoposte. And then this is so indelibly burned into me, but that season of Idol, when it was like all you heard was mariah and nikki
Starting point is 00:31:25 fighting fighting fighting during the auditions when they were in new york there's a moment where um mariah like you know like uh hmu is coming in to like just do last looks on mariah and nikki and then mariah just kind of and it's like it's like sort of like a they didn't know the cameras were rolling it's like a little bit of a bts moment and mariah goes i really want to lose three pounds and then nikki goes i know how you can and then mariah goes she like mariah rolls her eyes and goes it's a quote from mean girls if you knew mean girls then you would know and then then nikki minaj goes and this is something that colin cortopassi and i quote all the time she goes i do know mean girls mean to girl she goes i do know mean girls and it's just i don't
Starting point is 00:32:04 know it's a dumb inside joke but i remembered that the other like last week and i found that clip on youtube snipped it cut it trimmed it sent it to colin just out of with no context and he knew exactly what i meant and but nikki and mariah was just ugly it was ugly the whole it wasn't that fun the whole time except for the situation that you just described is why it was bad casting because you cannot have those two on the panel at the same time because there is such a thing as having too many stars yeah and nikki minaj wherever she goes is going to be the star and mariah wherever she goes is going to be the star so when mariah is sitting there and she says a line from Mean Girls that is Mariah's moment
Starting point is 00:32:45 don't step in though but but when Nicki Minaj is there you have to also allow for any moment to be her moment yeah so it was just not good and I would say I do know who won that season because her name was Candice
Starting point is 00:33:01 Glover she was like an amazing singer but if I'm a contestant on that season, I'm pissed. No, that sucks. Yeah. Because the whole thing became about them and their like feud or whatever, which is again disappointing as someone who loves as a Barb and
Starting point is 00:33:18 a lamb, which is already a tough position to be in. Tough position to be in. Like I don't want to see that play out, especially when you watch the Up Out My Face video and they're having so much fun together. Genuinely, they look like they're having a blast together, and you're like, I think it feels like a very wicked situation,
Starting point is 00:33:34 you know? Like that, like, like they actually... Well, you know, separately, like, they asked Mariah one time, they were like, can you say a nice thing about Nicki Minaj? And Mariah turns to the camera and goes, you know, when she first came out, I clocked her right away. And I knew she was going to be a huge star, which is why she was on about my face. Because I saw Mariah nurtured the hip hop.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Mariah has always nurtured the hip hop. I was like, I know that's a huge star. I think she's so talented. And then Nicki in a separate interview said, I don't want to be fighting with her. She's Mariah Carey, my mother. And I used to sing her songs all the time. i don't want to be fighting with her she's mariah carey my mother and i used to sing her songs all the time i don't want to be fighting with her so i think these are two people who again it's the narcissism it's the ego it's the whatever that just comes with and we love both but it just comes with the territory where you cannot have the two of them in the same place too often sharing space because they're not used to
Starting point is 00:34:25 it because another thing is just like you know when you come from a culture of women being pitted against each other all the time it's hard when they're fanning the flames so much to like subvert that because that's probably all they knew you know what i mean i would imagine that neither of them had worked with a lot of other women and And that's what you get when you combine Long Island with Bronx. It's like... Oh, dear. Oh, dear is all we have to say. But look, the only way you get two stars to coexist successfully in something
Starting point is 00:34:56 is if you have a Natalie and a Mila. Yes. And listen to me here and now. Kelly is a Natalie and Ariana is a Mila. Also, the fact is, Kelly is now older to the point where it's just like she's not trying to be a pop star in the way that Ariana is. Exactly. And also, it's also not cool anymore to have these women feuding. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:21 That's not a narrative that the media is chasing anymore i think because like they they know it's fucked up even if they try to get it across like in terms of like like some like like subliminal ways i think that they know that they would get called out immediately for trying to portray a situation where two women on these shows were like going at each other just because like they're both the diva you know what i mean it's so it's so tired yeah i know it both the diva you know what I mean it's so tired yeah I know it's although you know what I was thinking about the other day I'm like do you think do you think Ari would ever do
Starting point is 00:35:51 a song with like a Cardi or do you think Cardi would ever do a song with a Doja you know what I guess they all do songs together well you know what what might get weird with the Nikki of it all that's what I'm saying I feel like that's already been undercut with Megan, like hopping around doing Doja, Cardi, Nikki,
Starting point is 00:36:09 just like working with all of them. Yeah. I think that it really depends who you're in line with initially. Like I almost feel like. But Megan was in line with Nikki the most, like in like the earliest iteration. And like, I kind of do. I feel like we've all wondered, like like I wonder how Nikki feels about WAP
Starting point is 00:36:27 outperforming Hot Girl Summer in some ways I also think we might be projecting a little bit onto the current narrative based on what it's been we don't know what the relation I mean we haven't heard a lot of Nikki versus Cardi stuff it feels like it feels like now that we've had like Megan's year
Starting point is 00:36:44 and she has set the tone of working with everyone. We've sort of like, I think it's honestly so ugly. Like when you see this, I hated. It's been so ugly all along. I hated it. I hated the Taylor and Katie thing. I thought that was so stupid and I thought it made them both really dumb. I hated the Katie and Gaga thing.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah, I hated it all. I always hate it. I always hate it. It's's never it's just so i don't know it's so base or whatever especially when like and i think that's one of the one one of the only things i didn't like love about lover too is it felt like you need to come down like that felt like a vehicle for that moment where they like finally hugged again and i I'm like, yeah, but why was this a thing in the first place? Right. Like it's stupid. It's dumb.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Between Katie and Taylor though, we should say that Taylor was the one who kind of threw gas on the fire with bad blood. I mean, I, here's what I would say based on status in the industry, there's no reason for Katie to come for Taylor. Like it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And I do believe it hurt her like i think that i think that whole situation ended up hurting katie and so i don't think well can i tell you a rumor about what i heard started that whole thing uh that wasn't the dancers or no i heard and i would never say where I heard this, because I don't remember. Okay. But I heard that, and this is the insane rumor I heard,
Starting point is 00:38:13 I heard they were both at Club 33 in Disneyland. Oh my God. I heard they were both there. And at the time, Katie was dating John Mayer. So I heard that Katie and john mayer were at one table at one table in club 33 and then across the room taylor was there with other people and they didn't know they both were gonna be there and so i heard that as a joke katie sent over to taylor's table a glass of milk and told them tell tell her that
Starting point is 00:38:49 this is on the woman in the corner because she wanted to try to she wanted to break the tension because she was with john and john mayer and taylor famously had like a tough situation yeah but that's tough to read that's not super legible if i'm taylor and I get sent a glass of milk I'm like fuck you yeah so apparently she was very fuck you about it and left the restaurant because she was like I don't like this and she didn't get it cause Katie can I say
Starting point is 00:39:15 despite Taylor being like the obvious bully in that dynamic in the end I feel like Katie had like a mean girl streak about her like she just she gave off that energy. I'm just saying like, remember like she used to be like really good at Twitter. I mean like some of the kids might not know this.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Katy Perry was like one of the early Twitter celebrities who was like really good at it. Like got it, like joked about it. Like had a great sense of humor about herself. Anyway, yeah. I always think that Katy, and this is annoying and LOL, but I always think that Katy is funny. It's annoying but an lol but i always think that katie is funny
Starting point is 00:39:46 it's one of the things i like about her i like her wacky sense of humor i like that her first ever grammy performance was she came out as a banana and saying i kissed a girl like i think it's funny i think her i think left shark is funny i think her like like being sexual with a beach ball is funny i think that her humor her humor is one of the things I like about her. I think that her quote unquote sense of humor and Taylor Swift's quote unquote sense of humor. Don't mix. It's very LA versus Nashville or LA versus,
Starting point is 00:40:19 you know, Pennsylvania or whatever you want to delineate it. I keep, I keep going back to like where these people come from, like with Mariah and Nikki or, you know, with Ari or whatever. It's like, it informs a lot. And Katie sending Taylor a glass of milk feels very LA to me. It feels very like, or Santa Barbara, whatever the fuck,
Starting point is 00:40:36 wherever the fuck Katy Perry's from. And it's, but to think that this all started, potentially all started in Anaheim, California. This is what I heard. I heard that it was much more about the John Mayer of it all than it was. That makes sense. And it was just like, they just didn't communicate well than it was about backup dancers or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And I think that, and you have to remember, Taylor sang the backup dancer of it all, like the Sabotage Arena Tour. That's like, that did start the whole thing. And also, I'm not entirely sure that's how that works. Like, I think the backup dancers have to be on some sort of contract or something. 1,000% they're on a contract.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And has anyone verified, one, that the actual like list, the roster of dancers can be like cross-referenced. And then for two that the, that this is a very common occurrence potentially, if it is like, it's very common for dancers. Like,
Starting point is 00:41:37 I feel like you have dancers like go from like a Gaga tour to like a Carly Rae Jepsen or like Mark Hanamura. That's, that's a bad example, but it's like, there Jepsen or like either Mark Hanamura or that's, that's a bad example, but it's like, there's, I feel like this happens all the time. Anyway. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm sure we could, we could listen. If you were a dancer on that tour, wink, fucking wink. You should reach out and maybe set some of this right. Because right now we have all of our listeners believing that it's a club 33 moment.
Starting point is 00:42:10 So I would rather it be a club 33. But don't you think that all makes sense i think that i can see it i can see it playing out like katie being like no i got it babe i'm sending over a glass of milk this works every time she probably thought that was hilarious because katie's sense of humor is sent your glass of milk or like you know a gorilla on a telephone calling the police you know what i mean whereas like taylor's sense of humor is different it's like um my cat's name is meredith gray you know what i mean it's just like there's a different thing katie's sense of humor is like non-sequiturs like very like quote-unquote random imagery taylor taylor i would argue doesn't really taylor's sense of humor which i don't think his sense of humor is a sense of humor necessarily is
Starting point is 00:42:50 like cat photos and and shit like i i will say as much you and i love taylor and everyone knows we love taylor taylor's not a fun particularly funny person and that's okay i think that she has a sense of humor but i don't think she particularly has a great sense of humor about herself. So I think that someone who's like, I just don't, I think they're oil and water in that regard. And therefore shouldn't be close because I think that, and I'm sure they both take themselves super seriously. It's just like literally from what you can see, from what's projected to us from them. It seems like Katie has more of an ability to say, LOL, I look dumb than Taylor ever will because taylor the second she was able to became you know like uh at her at her apex taylor was cool hot and with models yeah at her apex katie perry was beach balls at the
Starting point is 00:43:58 super bowl and they have a face and i'm kissing them and maybe i fucked that tree you know what i mean like so that So it's just different. At her apex, it was last Friday night, and it was like, was Taylor ever a kid? Hot Engineer Doug is asking, was Taylor ever a kid? Yeah. Well, Taylor's whole story is that she was kind of like the perfect machine of like,
Starting point is 00:44:24 she was cranking out songs and all she's ever, her whole mindset has been driven by the music industry. And so maybe there was like an early loss of innocence in that way. I don't know. We're not going to like write the biography for these women.
Starting point is 00:44:39 That's not for us to do. We're just talking about these very frivolous, fun things and taking them very seriously. I think it's time, Matt, for us to do what we're just talking about these very frivolous, fun things and taking them very seriously. I think it's time, Matt, for us to do what we set out to do today. Do you agree? So we did set out to do something today. And I do agree because I think that we sort of have got to the bottom of this conversation. And I just would like to say, just to button it up, we love both. And if you don't think that Bowen and I ride hard for Taylor you haven't
Starting point is 00:45:07 listened to this podcast because we usually get told that we need to shut the fuck up about her and her music and how much we stand and we refuse to by the way and this is one of the first times that in a long time that we've been like critical of Taylor and it's it's something it's about something old too
Starting point is 00:45:23 she hasn't even done anything new I mean speaking of Taylor and Katie it's so something it's about something old too she hasn't even done anything new I mean speaking of Taylor and Katie I it's so funny that because I did this recently you and I have made a lovely time out of watching those chart data YouTube videos do people know what we're talking about so if you don't know now you know it's you can see like an artist
Starting point is 00:45:40 like billboard history the hot 100 history and it's so fun to watch like how they're I don't know it's just they're really fun like it's very interesting to see history and it's so fun to watch like how they're i don't know it's just they're really fun like it's very interesting to see how much it's like a very like it's a glimpse it's like a 4d glimpse of like as in like you literally see the time axis of like when things were promoted like when it's so interesting and then taylor's was obviously great um katie's so solid yeah. Katie's is really fucking solid. And then it inspired me to go and watch music videos from the Teenage Dream era and from the Prism era.
Starting point is 00:46:12 But I was like... Prism slaps. Prism's great. People actually don't give Prism enough credit. Prism is a good album. Great album. And also, it was actually a really... Justice for Prism.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Justice for Prism. Wait. It did incredibly well. It did really well. There's a really... Justice for Prism. Justice for Prism. Wait. It did incredibly well. It did really well. There's no need for Justice for Prism. Doug, do you feel comfortable coming in and saying your anecdote about recording with Katy Perry? Yes, we would love for you to tell the readers.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Can you come in, Doug? Doug, come in. Doug, tell them all... So you worked with Katy Perry. Yeah. Alright, so tell them your experience with her. Tell them your experience with Katy. I thought Katy was amazing. She's a great singer and played guitar, was very funny, like you said. I think Katy had a fun-er childhood.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I don't know if Taylor... I don't know. She was a star so early. I don't know if she was ever a kid. I think that is part of why Katy's funny. Katy did kind of go through this fucked up machinery of like christian rock and christian pop that i feel like she came out the other side of it being like oh god let me just have fun and not like worry about like this kind this this morass of thing
Starting point is 00:47:18 that i was just a part of and you know what's what's funny is that people usually are like oh well katie perry you know like she's not one of the singers. She's not a musician. You said something really interesting, which is that she had a very big sound. What did you say about her? Oh, her voice is huge. Well, have you listened to her MTV Unplugged set?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. So good. What did you work with her on? Do you remember like what the tracks were, what the album was? It was the first big one. One of the Boys? One of the Boys.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yeah. It was her debut. And one of the boys yeah it was her debut and thinking of you is i listened to that song one of my favorite songs and one of her favorite songs she always she still plays that live to this day and she'll always qualify by being like and this is a song that i just like to do so i'm gonna do it and she still does it and it's i don't think it i don't think that song got the credit it's also one of my favorite music videos great music but i'll never forget that you said that that she had like an easy to record sound because she's got such a big sound she sings from the right place i love it a musical glimpse inside with doug thank you doug thank you doug go away
Starting point is 00:48:19 go now go get out of here go get out, though. Looking good. Doug's looking good. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends! How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo, or stream it on City TV+. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are,
Starting point is 00:49:37 there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Shro Soops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 00:50:07 This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer,
Starting point is 00:50:26 and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? we're teammates again and we're gonna welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes i'm a dude you're a dude and dudes on dudes is our brand new show we're gonna highlight players peers guys that we played against legends from the past and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them and we'll get into the types of dudes what kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dude.
Starting point is 00:51:29 We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday
Starting point is 00:51:48 during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We did set out to do something. Yes. Which is we are excited to announce that we are going to announce that we are going to announce the sum of the categories
Starting point is 00:52:07 for the first, maybe not annual, we don't know what the cadence will be going forward. But it is the first. It is the first Las Culturistas Culture Awards. Now, what is this, you might ask? We barely know. All we know is that we've created several categories. And by several, I mean these categories will number in the hundreds. And we will be giving the awards at a later date.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But we wanted to sort of go through some of the categories. We're starting the season officially. This is the awards season. The Lost Culture Reassist awards season is beginning. And so we're going to announce some of the awards season. The Lost Culture Reassist awards season is beginning. And so we're going to announce some of the categories today. And we encourage you to sort of engage with each
Starting point is 00:52:52 other about who could be the winners of these categories. There are no nominees. There are no nominees, but we will announce a winner. And the people who are up for the awards are campaigning as the campaign has started. Yes. So if you feel that you, if you are sort of competitive for these awards are campaigning as the campaign has started. Yes. So if you feel that you, if you are sort of competitive for these awards, please campaign. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Or if you are, if you fancy yourself a publicist for, you know, a conceptual award, like we're going to announce them, you know, we're going to announce like one of them is, let's just come out with this as a random one I picked up from the list best seltzer flavor if you feel like you want to campaign for pamplemousse let's say be be the publicist for pamplemousse let us know that you want pamplemousse to win that category and there's certainly an argument for pamplemousse i mean like that and you know i i already know some girls who could really go to the mat for pamplemousse because I see them be drinking it. Oh, yeah. So we are at this time are going to bone and I are going to go back and forth saying some
Starting point is 00:53:49 of the categories and quick commentary understand that there are many categories to come. There will be 250 categories and this is the most ambitious event in lost coach history. And as you know, we've done some ambitious events okay
Starting point is 00:54:06 we've done the top 200 moments in culture and this will be even bigger than that it is the lost culturistas culture awards the first and this is it's emmy grammy oscar tony lost culturistas culture awards so it's now
Starting point is 00:54:22 igat lasakaka and i matt i going to say something, and I want you to really, if you want to, like, rein me in, let me know. Okay. I think some categories the readers can suggest. I think if you have a suggestion,
Starting point is 00:54:39 you should suggest. And I think the best, to be honest, the best way to reach us is through twitter is through the lost culture is just twitter account tag lost culture east us um that is the most direct line yes into um our ears okay and i would say take it out of the dms on insta let's just let insta be insta yep tag at lost culture is on twitter because those are bonamized Twitters now. We've both done a great job of saying fuck you to Twitter personally. But we love
Starting point is 00:55:09 the one moment, the space that I love and hold sacred is to every now and then check the LostCulture Twitter for some engagement. Some people are still complaining about certain things, that's fine, but a lot of people are really giving us great material suggestions.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I mean, I wouldn't have found half of the Death to All of Them content had it not been for the readers tweeting. And there is so much of it. And we're so happy about it. And yes, I have seen and Bowen has seen the remix. We love. We love the remix. The remix.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It's of Death to All of Them. It's absolutely amazing. But yes, at Las Culturistas, if you want to suggest categories, but for now we will sort of at this moment begin to list the categories. All right. So Bowen, would you like to begin? I will begin.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Our first category is biggest jester. Biggest jester. So this is of all the jesters, this would be awarded to the biggest one. To the one who displays the most jester behavior. The behavior you exhibited tonight was jester. Jester-like. If you can sort of understand who that might be directed to, campaign for that person. The second category is biggest flop. This is not biggest flop of the year necessarily. This is the biggest flop.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Someone who exhibited flop-like behavior. Yeah. Your behavior, the behavior you exhibited tonight was flop-like. If you can see in your mind's eye who that will be directed to, go ahead and campaign for that person. The next category is biggest jester flop. So if you can sort of combine what it means to be a jester and also what it means to be a flop, this is that type of person that we're looking for to sort of carry the mantle forward of biggest jester flop. The behavior you
Starting point is 00:56:56 exhibited tonight was jester flop like. So if you can see who that might be directed to in your mind's eye, then by all means campaign for that person. Okay, and then what's the next category? The next category is biggest jester flop in the clown square. In the town square or the clown square? The clown square. Thank you. That's a correction, actually, because I typed it in the town square,
Starting point is 00:57:17 but Matt, as the originator of that phrase, gets to change the name. So if you can imagine sort of like the jester flop that we've been talking about but so public that you could even call what they're going through that they're in the clown square tomatoes flying tomatoes flying the makeup the clown makeup honey just imagine this person worthy of being dragged so hard because what they've flopped gesturing it was so clown clown like that we you have to we have to get rid of this person then please campaign for that person i have i have someone
Starting point is 00:57:53 in mind already for that one oh my god but i'm so excited to find out who it is okay the next category most amazing impact in film this is similar to best picture would you say but not really no no impact we're talking about impact i would say this goes to the person persons or organization or or entity that has had the most amazing impact in film so this is film, of course, meaning movies. Yeah. And impact meaning gaggery. Gaggery. What's the next category? The next category is best asker.
Starting point is 00:58:34 So we have best actor, best actress. That's not here. Today we have best asker. This is most incredible person that ever asked questions. So this could be... Do you think it helps to kind of give examples, not of people, but of kinds of people who are good askers? I would say, yes.
Starting point is 00:58:53 People whose job it is to interview people, whether it's on a TV show or for a job or for a podcast. Lawyers. Yeah. The best asker of the year.'s just say i mean do you think i have a serious question are a lot of these categories for the past year and culture no no i would say it goes for all time amazing amazing and so this is this is the best asker of all time best asker of all time okay the next category funniest gay man so these a gay man as in a man that has
Starting point is 00:59:28 sex with other men the person who is the funniest version of that there's a lot of a lot of this is a crowded field oh there are i can already think of at least three people who are gay men and funny funny yeah what's the next category the next category is funniest gay woman this is a woman who has sex with other women um or just kind of you know thinks of herself as gay yeah and she is funny yeah i can think of so many this is maybe an even more crowded field this is a very crowded field because i can think of 20 i can think of at least 20 they've been allowed to be funny longer than gay men and I'm okay saying that and we'll just get we'll just go ahead and say for now unless unless the readers really push for more categories like this Las Culturistas is
Starting point is 01:00:19 an institution like any other institution you know it is prone to you know social mishaps or misreadings these are the we're we're working with the gender binary here at this time we're working with the binary and that's not just the natalie mila binary we're working with funniest gay man and funniest gay woman at this time until that changes we might expand the category. Who knows? Okay. The next category is best news we heard. Matt, talk about this. So when you are living day to day, you are confronted with so much news. Some of the news is bad news that could put you in a bad mood. But every now and then you get very good news.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And sometimes you even get the best news. So this category is best news we heard. Best of all time of all time like like we woke up and we we this was the best news that we could ever hear so much so that it deserves an award today and the next category is the next category is best candy there are so many examples of candy bowen i can think of at least three i can think of at least three. I can think of at least three examples of candy that would be competitive in the running for the award Best Candy. What's the next category? The next category is Best Chocolate.
Starting point is 01:01:36 You might as well hit up Hershey Park and get up on your chocolate because one of them is going to be winning the award. I just got an email from at ferrero roche publicist oh my god is saying let's talk saying let's talk i have i have something that will make you really really happy oh my god if we're the bribery is already beginning what is this the hollywood foreign Association? Because all of a sudden I'm knee deep in candy and chocolate. Girl. Girl. You're campaigning.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You're campaigning. You are Emily in Paris-ing me today. What's the next category? This is best picture, parentheses, literal picture. There have been so many iconic pictures taken over the history of time. And this is the best picture. There have been so many iconic pictures taken over the history of time. And this is the best picture. Because every year at the Oscars you hear best picture, best picture.
Starting point is 01:02:32 No, it's not just photos. It's drawings, paintings. You're so right. It's not just photos. And this is what makes this category so wild. Giant category. Lots of contenders. only one will win only one picture
Starting point is 01:02:49 will win best picture for for now almost all the categories of the lost culture is just culture awards will only have one winner some of them may be ties only some but we will specify at a later date which ones those will be there is a next category it is album of the year album of the year this is the album this is like on this is this is a songwriting award yeah is that is that is that what it is with the grammys album of the year goes to the album and then song of the year does go to the song and that's the songwriting award no but between album and record of the year oh no never mind album album album is i'm so sorry collection of songs collection of song this is the best collection of songs this is not of all time this is of the year well we didn't say what year we didn't say what year and we won't. We won't. We have a next category. Yes. It is.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Record of the year. So this is the production. Yes. This is the production. Yes. Yes. And we did not say what year. We did not say.
Starting point is 01:04:00 We have a next category. Best seltzer flavor. As I had mentioned earlier, I'm still excited. I'm still as excited as i was when i gave a little peek before we gave sort of a beak behind the curtain and now it's like let's really start thinking about and we said pamplemousse which sort of i think is going to put them in front of everyone else but i don't ever deny some of these girls that love their coconut. Because coconut, hello, lime? Lime? Hello, mango?
Starting point is 01:04:32 I have to say, mango is always in the running because you always get mango when you order a box of La Croix. You actually can't, you cannot avoid mango. And that's gotta be something. And if this category were best fruit mango would be very much in the conversation and the fact that we're still talking about mango when the category is best best seltzer flavor says so much about the power of mango
Starting point is 01:04:57 there is a next category that we have most shocking moment of the year. This was, this goes out to that moment that made us all gasp and scream. Oh my God. This is the moment of the year. We don't know what year yet. This is the moment of the year when we all went, Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:05:16 And we had to look at each other because we were so shocked. It was so shocking. The moment of the year that it deserves the award for most shocking moment of the year. I'm excited to announce the next category. Yes, there's the next category. Best teen. Between the ages of 13 and 19, there are many people competing for this award.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And only one will win. We have a next category. Best 20-something. So people between the ages of 20 to 29. A lot of people. Even more so than 13 to 19. There are so many people in this category. It's a more crowded category than almost any other.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I think you might be right. Definitely more 20-somethings than there are types of fruit. We have a next category. A hundred percent. Oh, no. It's going to be very competitive between a few for like seltzer, but 20-something, it's wide open at this point.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It's so open. We have an X category. Best 30-something. Oh my God. And these are people who, you know, some of them may be very established in their fields, if that's what we're judging them on, if that's what the academy, the Las Culturistas're judging them on, if that's what the Academy,
Starting point is 01:06:26 the Las Culturistas Academy judges them on, which is the readers. Yeah. But it could be someone who just exudes the most intrigue or awe or someone who just embodies what a 30-something is. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:42 And we're in this category. We're in this category. And there's no nominees, but we're in this category. We're in this category. There's no nominees, but we're up for it. We are up for it. How do you feel about being up for it? Nervous. Really nervous. I kind of don't want it.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Because then that's when people are like, oh, they're overrated and why are we sort of heaping all this praise on them? It makes me feel uneasy if I think about winning this award. I think what scares me is how much I do want it. And you can admit that. I'm not ready to admit that I want it yet.
Starting point is 01:07:14 That's the difference. We have a next category. We have a next category. This is the Lady Gaga Award for being one person in a room award. This is an award for one person in a room award. This is an award for being in a, for someone being in a room and being the only person in that room. Is that,
Starting point is 01:07:31 is that, is that accurate? I mean, it seems a hundred percent clear to me. Okay. Okay. We have another category. Best straight or heterosexual person.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Yeah. There are a lot of, there are a lot of good ones. They are out there. They're out there. I. There are a lot of, there are a lot of good ones. They are out there. They're out there. I believe, I believe, um,
Starting point is 01:07:48 the saying is they're here, they're straight or heterosexual. Get used to it. Get used to it. You know, I feel like this is, you know, if this were a sliding scale sort of nomination system,
Starting point is 01:08:03 like the, the, there would only be certain nominees based on the submissions, this would be one of the sparser categories. But just as much open-ended in this category as there is with everything else. I think that this is just going to come down to who really wants it. Yeah, I agree. And a lot of people might want it more than we think. We have a next category. This category is most iconic building or structure.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Of all time. We know them. We love them. We live in them. We seen them. We often photograph them. Sometimes we even read about them or see them on tours but only one is the most iconic building or structure and will win the las culturistas
Starting point is 01:08:53 culture award for being as such the next category is best youtube video of those chart data timeline things i was just talking about them. You, in fact, were. We love these videos, and there's a lot of them out there. Yeah. Only for the important ones, because, you know, the one-hit wonders, they can't, you know, it's kind of like a snapshot.
Starting point is 01:09:16 You don't really need the timeline. And to think that something we only brought up on this episode is an entire category. It's... As it has every right to be as it has every right to be it has every right to be every right to be don't sleep on this category you guys no
Starting point is 01:09:32 this is not one of those like oh it's the middle of the show everyone get up and you know go refill your drinks no this is a category you're gonna want to stick around for yes
Starting point is 01:09:41 promise and we have a next category speaking of things we discussed on the episode to stick around for. Yes. Promise. And we have a next category. Speaking of things we discussed on the episode, best Katy Perry moment. Oh my God. There've been so many moments. There've been so many moments. Of Katy Perry.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Do you think a moment that hasn't even happened yet might win? It's not up to me. It's not up to me. But I guess it is. But I could. Ultimately, I guess it is up to us. Well. But I'm not up to me. It's not up to me. But I guess it is. But I could. Ultimately, I guess it is up to us. Well. But I'm not ruling it out.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I think that people should campaign. I think if you, it's like on American Idol where if you didn't want that person to be voted out, you should have voted. You should have voted. If you want to campaign and you want something to rise to the top
Starting point is 01:10:21 and win the culture award, campaign. Campaign. My God. Here we we go we have another category best movie we did not see now Bowen and I have seen very many movies but you more so than me
Starting point is 01:10:36 let's be real I have seen I have not seen so much and only one of them will win the culture award for best movie we Bowen and i did not see amazing we have another category we have another category i think it's your turn to outstanding reality competition host my god there are so i mean famously one has won the emmy every year this might be an opportunity for us to either add to that haul or go a different way.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Matt, I think you're up for this category. I'm up for this. I'm not saying... I am not... It would be inappropriate for me, especially because I'm nervous about how much I want it. Yeah. To sort of sway the publicists and campaigners out there of which now everyone is one.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah. But I am up for this. This is what everyone has to understand. When it's Lost Culture East is culture award season, everyone's a publicist. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Okay. It's rule of culture number 91. When it's Lost Culture East is culture award season, everyone's just culture awards season. Everyone's a publicist. Oh, yeah. That's all we have to say to that. Smallest snub.
Starting point is 01:11:54 People talk about the big ones. But there are small ones. There are snubs. There are snubs. We can acknowledge them to be snubs, but they're not that big. They're not a big deal. It's like, well, that person didn't get,
Starting point is 01:12:05 didn't win or didn't get nominated. That's too bad, but it's not, it's not something that they really, maybe fully deserved as much as, you know, as, as this other person.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I'm also up for this. This is getting really, really meta. This is an Ouroboros. Snake is eating its own damn tail. We have a next category. insult towards us this can be this dates back to our friendship or when people would whenever the first time oh my god matt you know you know who like there's someone out there who made history which was not not insulted us but there was but there was the first person to refer
Starting point is 01:12:46 to the two of us as like a unit of like just like oh those two people over there you know like who grouped us together for the first time that person made history that person made history and they
Starting point is 01:13:02 they better hope that there's a bigger insult towards us out there because they might get dragged well this is the award for the worst insult that someone has made about us and this can date as far back
Starting point is 01:13:16 to when you and I were in college walking down the street together getting a coffee together saying hello someone coming up to us saying you fucking get out of my way you coffee people yeah that's a bad example but you know but i think coffee people was sort of used in there it could have been something else just saying just saying we have a next category. Scariest monster. Lots of scary ones. I mean...
Starting point is 01:13:46 Fictional? Non-fictional? I mean, from Dracula to the Unabomber, there have been so many monsters in history. I mean, from Nurse Ratched to... Cookie. Cookie monster. Some people think Cookie's scary the fake the real what who will be the scariest of them all that's the big question we ask i have one i have a category by what i mean
Starting point is 01:14:18 category most controversial wendy williams moment i mean we discussed them on this podcast but only one can be the most controversial is it her sort of shrugging off someone's death is it her fainting in a sort of statue of liberty garb what is the most controversial what was the moment that shook it up the most when it comes to the queen of talk wendy williams and i think when i believe wendy is up for a lot of these categories she's up for almost every category wendy wendy is the is the favorite in a lot of these categories yeah maybe definitely for best i'm looking i'm just at a glance best asker you know best i think most shocking moment of the year most shocking one of the year biggest cluster flop in the in the clown square for sure
Starting point is 01:15:11 for sure i mean there's a lot many ways she could be the scariest monster monster come on come on we're smallest snub i have wendy wendy will be a presence oh yes she'll be a president i have i have a new category most recurring stress dream most recurring stress dream the stress dream that recurs the most if you could like write if you keep a journal for your dreams and you went back
Starting point is 01:15:35 and flipped the pages flip flip flip flip flip and you thought oh my god the one where I'm doing that that's the one that's gonna win most common thank you we have a next category worst way to die That's the one that's going to win. Most common. Thank you. We have a next category. Worst way to die. Death is sad.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Death is sad, but it's not always bad. Bad. And there's some deaths that are bad. And there's some deaths that, and there is a death that is the worst. Worst. And we are going to be awarding that on the last Culture Recess Culture Awards.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I'm seeing a new category come through. We have a next category. Best flavor of them all. This is different from best seltzer flavor. Oh, because what could be the best seltzer flavor, which I think I know what I
Starting point is 01:16:23 want, is definitely different than the best flavor of them all of them all of the year or of all time you you're not reading the it's best flavor of them all that's of the set of flavors that exist currently
Starting point is 01:16:40 but are we stretching it back to of all time every flavor that's existed best flavor of well then that means that means there are a lot this is a crowded category it's very crowded very crowded and if your flavor of talk show host is wendy williams then she's a she's also up for this we have a nice category best lil bro now if you remember bro lil bro is what matt rodgers was called by the man who was topping him yeah and it really really worked really sort of was a trigger as the kids say it was like he was hermione granger casting a spell in that it worked. Okay. Accio come.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Accio come. Accio prostate orgasm. I thought it was Accio, Accio, whatever. It's turf text. That's my, that's me saying Rorschach or Rorschach.
Starting point is 01:17:38 What did I say? You said Rorschach. Sure. We have, we have a next category. Best big bro. this is almost would you say this is uh another way of saying best top i i it's not up to me yet again it's really up to wait it either is up to us or it's or it's not i don't know what you we need to really like fall on one side with that i would say this we are going to be deciding the winners but that doesn't really mean it's not to us i see that makes total sense i think that this
Starting point is 01:18:10 is where the readers have to come in and really campaign you know who is the best big bro is it a big bro on film and television is it a top it's not it's just not for me to say yet. It's just not. No, exactly. And we also don't know when these awards are going to be. Mm-hmm. Which is important to say. Okay. We have a next category. Best friend. Best friend.
Starting point is 01:18:36 That's my best friend. If you need a freak, I ain't dumb, but motherfucker, she might Tweedledee. This is the friend that is the best. I think you're up for this. I think you're up for this. And to be competing against each other in this category is hard. So hard. And I guess I'm just
Starting point is 01:18:54 scared how much I want it. I don't want it because then I will always be measured against this award and be like well 20 years from now will i be a best friend will be will i be as good of a friend as i was and you know in all my life before it's so hard i don't really want it and you're brave enough to say that you do and i wish i had that bravery and i that's why i love you so much as a friend i love you love you back we have a next
Starting point is 01:19:22 category most memorable line in a movie. This is not a screenwriting award, but it's an award for the line that is most memorable. And this could come in a screenplay that is absolute horseshit. Okay? Oh, yeah. But it's the most memorable line in a movie. Oh, the camp classics are not disqualified from this.
Starting point is 01:19:45 The trashiest line, all movies are competing. We have a next category. We have a next category. Most memorable line in a TV show. This is similar to movies. It's pretty straightforward to me. But every movie, I think... It's straightforward to me.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Hold on, hold on. Okay, so I did, I've just, I did just receive an email from Megan McCain who's listening live, but she prefers to email us messages as we're recording. She says that all TV shows are in competition, are competing for this category. Makes sense to me. We have a next category.
Starting point is 01:20:20 We have a next category. Best note ever sung. Now now is this a pitch it could be about pitch it could be about emotion it could be about how high the note is or how low the note is are we distributing who sang the note is what i'm asking i think that it could be a specific note sung in a specific song it could be a note on the scale. All I know is the category is best note ever sung. And it's very clear. The timeline is very clear here. Best note ever sung.
Starting point is 01:20:56 We know what we're dealing with. And it's so interesting that this category has ever in it. And the other categories either don't have the word ever in it or say of the year. Some of them are of all time or of all this is best note ever sung I'm going to throw myself into the ring right now late entry
Starting point is 01:21:19 late entry for your consideration we have a next category worst note ever, son. Oh, you thought the bi theories were done? No. No. Here they are again. And I just threw myself into the ring for that as well.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Uh-oh. We have a next category. Best live performance by a woman. There are so many. I can think of at least three. I can think of at least three. can think of at least three we are not up for this no but so many people are and the submission window will not close until the minute before we start the awards the awards recording the episode um at an at an undetermined
Starting point is 01:22:02 time which we do not know what it is. Which we do not know when. We have a next category. The Diablo Cody Screenplay Award. This is an award that is either for a screenplay that really, really fucking popped right away and people got it and loved it, or didn't pop right away, but earns a cult appreciation years later
Starting point is 01:22:22 until it becomes universally loved by everybody and is seen as like a really great sort of um you know horror fantasy feminist work so this is actually um while it's named after diablo cody and you think it's going to be a general good award for good screenplay it's actually very it should really apply to being a diablo cody vibe okay it doesn't have to be written by diablo it should just feel like tully it should feel like young adults in energy in essence yes we have a next category the kate blanchett award for good acting i think that one of the best actors of all time is Cate Blanchett. I think Bowen would agree.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I agree. And so this is an award for good acting. But remember, it should feel like Cate Blanchett is also winning it. Is Cate up for this award? Yes. Was Diablo up for the Screenplay Award? Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:24 And if they don't win their own namesake that would be so embarrassing it would be so embarrassing but but listen i mean a lot this is not we're not trying to make anyone uncomfortable here which sort of brings me to my next category here we have can i announce it you may it It is the Kylie Minogue Award for Why Haven't They Happened in America Yet? Enough said. I mean, is this a similar thing where if Kylie doesn't win this one, then it's just egg on her face?
Starting point is 01:23:53 I think it would be major egg on her small Australian face. If she, her little Aussie face. If she didn't win an award that was her namesake. Because that would mean that we're asking why haven't they happened in America yet in a higher magnitude than Kylie. Which sort of brings me to the next award.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Oh, interesting. We have a next category. The Little Mix Award for being absolutely fierce boots. Oh my god. They are fierce, those three. Those are some fierce girls and listen they are obviously up for the kylie minogue why haven't they happened in america yet award but they're also up for the little mix award for being absolutely fierce boots and it would be
Starting point is 01:24:39 egg on their british faces yeah if they didn't win the award of their variably sized British faces but at least I think there were presents throughout the rest of the awards I mean they were definitely up for best live performance by a woman that would be a shared award even though the category signifies
Starting point is 01:24:59 denotes a single woman smallest snub for sure best 20 something best 20 something um album of the year record of the year um best news we heard could be about little mix um you know there's a lot there so i think little mix like if they don't win this one there's there's plenty of opportunity in other categories there's a lot of opportunity. And speaking of opportunity, the next category. We have a next category. The Tina Turner Legend Award.
Starting point is 01:25:30 This will go to a legend. On the magnitude of Tina Turner. This will go to an absolute legend on the magnitude of Tina. Rock icon Tina Turner. Someone who broke, reinvented, invented the form to begin with someone who is
Starting point is 01:25:47 legendary lived and lived don't you want to be a legend yeah statement or star my god we have a next category most relaxing destination you close your eyes and what do you picture if you if you want to be transported to a place where you are completely at ease you know this this could be a specific place or a place that is sort of imagined you know what i mean it can be anything it can be anything it can be anything this is very similar to scariest monster fictional non-fictional it's wide open right we have a next category best damn bird this is a big one this is one of the biggest categories of all because there are thousands millions billions of birds and also there is the saying damn bird so this is the best damn bird it is not the katrina's clarity's rogers award for best damn bird it is just best damn bird so katrina
Starting point is 01:26:56 has no pressure on her to win this because she's not up for it but she is she is sort of you know i'm sure that she will campaign. You know, I'm sure that she, as someone who's been around a lot of damn birds. Everyone's a publicist. Everyone's a publicist, including my mother. We have a next category. Best Disney World Ride. There are so many.
Starting point is 01:27:18 There are so many. And we're not even specifying if it's a flume, if it's a 3D show, if it's a live show, if it's a... Ride. No, it's just ride. It's just ride. Something you get on. Do you consider one of the live shows? That's not a ride to you. You don't ride a live show.
Starting point is 01:27:38 It's actually Reload Culture number 106. You don't ride a live show. Unless you're a rodeo person. Unless you're a rodeo person unless you're at the rodeo you're on you're you're on the damn you're on the damn cow i guess so but i guess then the cow would be the of course because famously at these rodeos they ride cows cowboy what cowboy what we have a next category best universal studios orlando right i want to see my orlando queens campaigning i want the girls campaigning for their faves this is definitive this is
Starting point is 01:28:16 definitive okay should we define a ride as anything that you put a that you buckle a seatbelt for not even necessarily because on the teacups they don't make you put a seatbelt on. That's right. There are some flume rides. I think Splash Mountain, you don't have to put on a damn seatbelt. There's no belt. Anything you get in and then it goes.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Thank you. All I wanted all along was just for some definition and you gave it to me just now so, so well. That's why I'm here. here thank you we have a next category matt six flags award for worst ride in orlando oh my god this is the six flags award for worst ride in orlando this really speaks for itself it it's namesake a bad chain of theme parks for worst ride in orlando florida i want to see my girls campaigning i want to see my girls campaigning now is it am i wrong in saying that there's a ride at the airport or no i think i think i'm wrong i think you might be wrong
Starting point is 01:29:19 i wasn't sure if there was like a vegas thing where like you know there's like slot machines at the airport and it's like they kind of like want to bring that experience to when as soon as you leave. I think I would know. You would know. And I actually that sounds it sounds wrong as I say it. But this this isn't even something that Universal or Disney World. It's it could be a different part. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Okay. We have a next category. Best cousin of the week. So this is category. Best cousin of the week. So this is anyone that has cousin of the week energy. You may have to sort of dive back into the podcast to find out what cousin of the week is, but this is someone who embodies what it means to be a cousin. Of the week.
Starting point is 01:29:58 We'll be giving them an award. Cousin of the week. And I should, yes, and I should clarify, it's best cousin of the week of all time, correct? Best cousin of the week ever of the week. And I should, yes, and I should clarify, it's best cousin of the week of all time, correct? Best cousin of the week ever of all time. Ever, yeah, it's not in the actual title of the category, but it's, oh, now you're adding it, I see, on the Google Doc, and thank you.
Starting point is 01:30:17 So I'm reading, let me just read that again. Best cousin of the week ever of all time. Yeah, so this might require some homework. The cousin of the week is someone who embodies what it means to be a cousin that week. This award is given to the best cousin of the week ever of all time. Thank you. We have a next category. Best I don't think so honey of all time.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Wow. I'm speechless. Our own thing. To know that it's on the list, it's an honor. You're up for it. I don't think I'm up for this. I think you're up for this. We're both up for it.
Starting point is 01:30:55 No, I think there's some obvious people who are up for this. Can I just list off some names now? I can think of one. Go ahead. I can think of a couple. Pat Regan, Joel Kim Booster, Greta Teitelman, Sudi Green. I mean, you know, the people you know and love.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Sabrina Wu gave a great one at a live show. A lot of contenders. I'm not up for this. And that's okay. No, you're up for it. Being up for it and being competitive for it are two different things. Okay, okay. I also think you often do this thing, you're up for it. Being up for it and being competitive for it are two different things.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Okay, okay. I also think you often do this thing where you're like, no, it's bad, I'm bad. But you have had some really good ones that are competitive. And you know what? There's going to be people campaigning.
Starting point is 01:31:37 A lot of publicists out there are going to be campaigning. And you might be surprised what of your repertoire is eligible and worthy how do you feel about your odds in this one I think I have submitted a lot of
Starting point is 01:31:54 material and I think that they might all cancel each other out but I think I've had some good I don't think so honeys I would be shocked to hear that one of my I don't think so honeys was the best I don't think so honey of all time I'm actually pretty sure I know what's gonna win this I'm pretty sure I know what's gonna win this
Starting point is 01:32:09 I'm very sure I know what's gonna win this but we have to talk you Megan and I we have an X category best thing to order for the table I mean there's so many apps there's so many apps and not even apps sometimes it's a pizza sometimes it's an entree that's not and not even apps sometimes it's a pizza sometimes it's
Starting point is 01:32:25 an entree that everyone shares and we should say that this is the best of all those things you you sit down you feel out the vibe someone says i know what to order the table and then it comes and everyone's like oh my god i'm so glad you ordered this so happy and it's just like those i'm sorry i'm getting ahead of myself. I don't want to say anything. Well, you know, you're campaigning. I didn't mean to campaign, and I actually don't really care for shishito peppers.
Starting point is 01:32:52 I love shishito peppers. I guess now I'm the publicist, huh? No. I love it. Because everyone's a publicist. We're both publicists. Everyone's a publicist. It's kind of like everyone's a critic.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Everyone's a publicist. We have a next category. Best dinner. Usually happens after 5, 530. The meal that you eat. That's likely the last meal of the day. Sometimes. Sometimes the borders are a little.
Starting point is 01:33:18 A little undefined. This is something you eat. That really feels substantial. At the end of the day. Yeah. And I've had some good ones in my life i'm very blessed i am so fortunate to have eaten some dinners that i would consider some of the best and i don't think i'm done i don't think i'm through but one of them will be i don't think I'm through. That's me.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I'm so amazed at that. That you don't think you're done. That you don't think you're through with your dinners. I think I'll continue to eat dinner. And I think that... But up until now, they'll have been one best dinner. And this is not best dinner that we've eaten. It's best dinner.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Best dinner. Take it out of us. I'm telling the publicist's best dinner. Best dinner. Take it out of us. Best dinner. I know. Oh, no. I'm telling the publicist. Take it out of us. Take it out of you.
Starting point is 01:34:10 We have to make an objective culture decision on what's the best dinner. Yes. We have a next category. Best lunch. This is lunch. This is that meal you eat. Between 1130 and 3. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:27 In some school systems, in some public school systems. Too early. 11 a.m. I went to a school where if you had 11 a.m. lunch, you were lucky. I had lunch at 10.15 one time.
Starting point is 01:34:40 At school? Yes. Recently. No, no, no. At school. My lunch period was 10.15 a. Yes. Recently. No, no, no. At school. My lunch period was 10.15am. And that's what, you know what,
Starting point is 01:34:49 we're actually being classist. Well, they got us up at 6. Jesus. They got us up at 6. Jesus. But I'm talking about the graveyard shift people. Maybe 10am is their dinner. You know what I'm saying? You're so right. We're thinking in a binary. Not even in a binary. A trinary?
Starting point is 01:35:06 We're thinking in terms of a capitalist sort of timetable in the day and let's just dismantle it but we're not getting rid of the category that's for sure but best lunch can be at any time and so can the next category we have a next category best breakfast
Starting point is 01:35:20 and breakfast can be at any time of the day too. I know some diners that serve it all day long. Okay. And say that. Say that. And you want to know what I did the other night? Yeah. Couldn't have been earlier than 11 PM.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I said, I haven't eaten anything all day. I'm hungry. This is what I want. I scrambled some eggs, put some of my tomato kimchi on top, put it on a piece of toast. And that was my dinner. And I was hungry. This is what I want. I scrambled some eggs, put some of my tomato kimchi on top, put it on a piece of toast, and that was my dinner. And I was like, this is happening. A.K.A. the behavior that they created the words go off king about. That is the behavior.
Starting point is 01:35:55 A.K.A. the behavior of a king. Frying eggs. At 11. At 11. Go off, king. And it's never been more apt. you we have a next category best fish this is when this is this is when matt and i really kind of unraveled but as we were typing this list best fish best what's the best fish we want to know from you the publicist what is the best fish once and for all
Starting point is 01:36:26 we have skipped two we've skipped two I'm going to say the next category best snack you might eat this between breakfast lunch and lunch and dinner best snack I'm so sorry for skipping
Starting point is 01:36:41 it's okay number one best snack we have a next category best beverage I'm so sorry for skipping. It's okay. It's the number one best snack. We have a next category. Best beverage. This is something you drink, whether it's with a meal or not, not tethered to a meal at all. I'm about to drink some water right now,
Starting point is 01:36:58 which is in the running. Oh, water is in the running. Very competitive. For best beverage. It's up for it. It's competitive. Oh, it's up for it. It's competitive. I think it's got a lot of fans. Maybe even everyone in the world.
Starting point is 01:37:10 But will they vote? And will they campaign? And will they campaign? It's not up to us. Not up to us until it is. Exclusively. We have a next category. The Catherine Han Award for us being gagged. This is going to really stir up some drama.
Starting point is 01:37:28 A lot of people will have a lot of strong opinions. Because, of course, being gagged is a strong opinion. It's a strong emotion. One of the strongest emotions you can feel. Love, anger, being gagged. And Catherine Han is very emblematic of that. That's why the award is named after her she is in the running she's in the running she's up for it and humiliating for her if she doesn't
Starting point is 01:37:51 win humiliating we have a next category worst criminal of all time worst criminal of all time this is dark there are dark criminals out there and this is not this is like blue collar criminals this is this can be murderers so many ways you could be a criminal bootleggers so many kinds of crime white collar blue collar black collar that's what i meant when i said blue collar criminal i said i meant a blue collar criminal is that's that's that that's not a category i think it's clear criminal it's clear this is the worst criminal of all time which is separate from scariest monster oh yeah but there's some over there you know it might be a concentric circle within scariest monster of all time or it's
Starting point is 01:38:35 a venn diagram where there's plenty of overlap i think it could be a concentric circle we have category best influencer we haven't heard of. So many young girls are influencing all the doodah day. And we haven't heard of so many of them. This is the best. We have a next category. Best emoji. You know them, you love them. You see them hanging out on your phone all day like Giselle's boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Like Giselle, he's in the phone. hanging out in your phone all day like giselle's boyfriend like just oh she's in the phone he lives in the phone the emojis live on the phone and some of them are new some of them are old some of them you'd never even used how often do you go into the flags how often how often do some of you go into the flags they're up for this don't sleep on the flags this is going to skyrocket this has the potential to skyrocket the profile of one of the emojis so cam pain publicist we have a next category best emotion to portray this is so specific because it's not a best emotion it is best emotion to portray to your fans to friends to those watching you best emotion to portray amazing we have a next category we have a cat we have a chunk of categories that i think will be very important absolutely okay can i announce this one yes
Starting point is 01:40:02 we're almost done with with these announcements by the way best animal on the farm you know them you love them they're on the farm they've been on the farm they've been waiting for this moment you might even see them in a petting zoo and only one will win. E-I-E-I-O. E-I-E-I-O-E-G-O-T-L-C-C-A. More like. What did you spell? E-I-E-I-O-E-G-O-T-L-C-C-A. Oh my God, that's it. We have a next category.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Best animal in the forest. You might be seeing this one up in the tree, on the ground, hiding in the leaves, in the bushes, eating a mushroom. All the critters. Critters, the house down, or should I say the forest wide? The forest wide, the canopy tall. And this is deciduous forest. This can be rainforest.
Starting point is 01:41:04 This can be anywhere with a cluster of trees. Coniferous girls. Coniferous girls. Step to the front. Best animal in the forest. We have a next question. Best animal in the sea. First of all, can we say one of the biggest entities is our,
Starting point is 01:41:19 and it actually was a moment of culture, our nation's oceans. The exploration of our nation's oceans. Our world's oceans and seas. This takes an even deeper dive, if you will, and asks who is the greatest, best animal in the sea? Hmm. Hmm. I don't think this will be a peaceful category
Starting point is 01:41:46 no I think a lot of people will be hurt a lot of animals will be hurt and haven't they been hurt enough apparently not apparently not but you better campaign if you want what's right to end up
Starting point is 01:41:57 being the outcome animals include mammals fish reptiles reptiles amphibians. So many. We have a next category. This is upsetting, but it's your turn to announce.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Best billionaire. You know, they are a category of human being. And we are a culture podcast. We're awarding things to everything in the culture. Billionaires are in the culture, whether we like it or not. We're awarding this award to the best one. Best one, meaning not necessarily nicest person. Best billionaire.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Who walks the walk of being a billionaire the most? And now it's very hard because they're all sort of blending together. They're all doing the same things they're all going to space they're all starting to see the same trainer we need someone who stands out as a billionaire
Starting point is 01:42:58 which one should be uplifted on the podcast Las Culturistas and publicists, readers, you might have to start campaigning for a billionaire and I bet, readers, you might have to start campaigning for a billionaire. And I bet you never thought you'd have to do that in your life. I'm excited to hear what the readers come up with. We have a next category.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It is your turn. Best planet. This is not limited in our solar system. No, no. This can be in the Kepler system. This can be in other systems, in other star, in a binary star system. This can be in other systems, in other star, in a binary star system.
Starting point is 01:43:28 It could be a Star Wars planet. It could be Avatar. It could be a Little Prince planet. You know, Le Petit Prince. It could be Mormonism planet. It can be a lot. Avatar, you said. It could be Earth.
Starting point is 01:43:43 It could be Earth. We'd be willing to hear arguments. Avatar, you said. It could be Earth. It could be Earth. It could be Earth. It could be Earth. We'd be willing to hear arguments, Megan Bone and I. What happened to Abby? Oh, I guess she's still around and producing. I guess I just forgot about her. We haven't heard from her in a while. That feels like Megan's really drowned out.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Megan McCain, we should remind. You know they got in a big fight. It's too bad. We have a next category. Best teacher we ever had, parentheses, Teacher Respect Award. This is, now who is we? Best teacher we ever had,
Starting point is 01:44:18 Teacher Respect Award. Thank you. You answered my question. We, the royal we. Best teacher we ever ever had again it's not up to me necessarily i'm just willing to hear campaigns i want the publicist to sort of do their work in deciding what this is best teacher we ever had teacher respect award thank you this is an opportunity to really lift someone up.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Wendy Williams is up for this category. She is up for this. Little Mix is up for this. They're up for it. They've all taught. They've all taught. We have one more category to announce. And here, let me just do a quick count on how many categories this is.
Starting point is 01:45:06 We've only told you 72 categories. So that is like a little less than a third. And so there are many more categories. We might not get to 250. I think maybe we'll do 100. We'll do 100. We'll do 100 categories. So the 28 other categories will be announced very soon just understand before we do the cultural awards we'll have announced the next 28 categories
Starting point is 01:45:32 we only got to 72 we have a last category most colorful color this is for a color that is the most colorful i for one can't wait to hear the readers discuss and dissect the colors to find out which one of them is the head and shoulders above the rest as the most colorful color of them all. Now, I don't want this to be a thing where it's, oh, it's black because it's every color, you know, mixed together. No, don't get fresh. Don't get fresh and clever. We don't like that.
Starting point is 01:46:15 You don't like that. You have to. I want to see spirited debate on what the most colorful color is. Please, first of all, black and white and gray are shades. And you're not going to come fool us. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Those are the 72 categories thus far. There will be 28 more categories to create the 100 categories in the Lost Culture Recess Culture Awards. The first. I am, I for one i'm thrilled i because you know because i because i like that this is a campaign this is there will be upsets there will be drama there's gonna be engagement and i want to see the readers interact with us this is a dialogue
Starting point is 01:47:00 top 200 moments of culture history was just us kind of communicating what the moments were yeah 12 days of culture was us kind of like you know doing something similar this is an opportunity as matt has said many times to lift someone up this is the opportunity for readers to be publicists to campaign this is how it works in the awards in the circuit. This is a glimpse in to how things work in the circuit. And if you're silent,
Starting point is 01:47:34 someone might not get an award. And that is the worst thing that could possibly happen to someone in their life. To someone or some fish in the sea or some animal in the forest. To go unrewarded their entire
Starting point is 01:47:50 life? Fate worse than death. Fate worse than death. Get to thinking! The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back! I love that! Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us?
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Starting point is 01:49:18 an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban,
Starting point is 01:50:20 I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 01:50:39 This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story, from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that. Like, years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Well, I don't think I think this week we don't do anything. I had one. You just don't want to do it because you don't have one. I want to do mine. Okay, okay. And then I'll do one that's bad.
Starting point is 01:51:50 All right. Here we go. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People taking pictures with their tongue out like this. Oh, to the side. Well, can you tell everybody what you just did?
Starting point is 01:52:04 I just did to the side. I you tell everybody what you just did i just did to the side i also don't like or this get your tongue in your mouth show us your teeth or your smile without teeth which is also called a grin i believe or maybe work a smize i don't want to see your tongue everyone that goes default to sticking their tongue out in a picture i know you i've seen your you're cuter without sticking your tongue out if you think that you are better looking with your tongue out of your mouth than it is in your mouth i have objective news for you you are not it's not cute it's not funny especially in the age of covid get your tongue in your mouth flop jester flop in the clown square tongue in mouth now i'm not watching that i'm not watching that get the tongue out of the mouth i'm not watching that get the tongue
Starting point is 01:53:04 tongue back in the mouth that's what watching that Get the tongue in the mouth Listen I've just had it I've had enough and I see people That I'm close to doing it And I'm like what is this insecurity Then just don't smile at all But I'd rather see you give a stoic Look into the camera
Starting point is 01:53:21 Like this Than the tongue out Well Better hop in a time machine to 2013 and tell miley cyrus before she goes on stage at the vmas to keep it in sweetie if i did have a time machine it's the first thing i would do say that bowen this it's now time for your i don't think so honey are you ready fish fish i'm ready this is bowen for your i don't think so honey are you ready fish fish i'm ready this is bowen yanks i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey being in a creative rut okay i have been telling myself this story for too long that i've been in a rut and then all i had to do the other night was put on some tea, put a little bit of fun music on.
Starting point is 01:54:06 And then as long as I sat at a desk with my phone off, I was a fucking font of creativity. And I was like, I haven't felt this way in literal years. And I enjoyed myself a great deal. And now I think I've really kind of cracked it. And everyone should read
Starting point is 01:54:24 The Creative Habit by Twyla Tharp because I remember this is what she talks about. You just have to set aside the time. And it's not even about whether or not you're in a rut. It's about, because that is a self-fulfilling prophecy that you will fail creatively no matter what. You just have to build the time in your schedule. I'm not saying anything new,
Starting point is 01:54:41 but this is a truth that bears repeating. Just set aside the time. And girl, you're going to write the next damn King Lear. And it's still going to be the pandemic because we're still in a pandemic. And that's what I'm going to come on, Charles Dickens. You also were sort of talking about scarcity mindset, which our own Parvati Shallow told us about. When you sit there and think, I'm not able to create, I'm not able to able to create i'm not able to create you are fixating on the lack of creation and that is a trap and i would say that you you you have we've both seen each other in this mindset today step off the pod separate
Starting point is 01:55:19 conversations we've both really kind of like been stuck in that mindset haven't we i would say that you were talking to me earlier about something and i was like it's hey you've you've you know you will you will succeed there's one thing i do in my life where i get tripped up every time i think about it because i wonder what if it's bad what if it's bad what if it's bad and it's weird because it's not really who i am in any other aspect but it's just a project that matters a lot to me so i don't want to mess it up so i get that but you are right right. It is a cyclical thing where I'm fixated on the what if I fail aspect of this one thing. And that I know from life and from talking to Parv, it's not useful.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Not useful. And thank you, Parv. I'm happy that you put that T on and things turned around. Oh, yeah. This was lovely. Well, it's been a long episode. I'm happy that you put that T on and things turned around. Oh, yeah. This was lovely. Well, it's been a long episode. And I don't want to overload and have it burst at the seams for the reader because we've been getting complaints.
Starting point is 01:56:14 And not that I care about the complaints. Don't care at all. I'm sorry that we've been going long. Actually, you know, ever since, have I told you ever since we watched all those Gwyneth Paltrow videos on Fire Island of her, like, not giving a shit about being in the Avengers movies being like I haven't seen any of them sorry like that's really changed my I talked about this in therapy like it's really been a shift for me to be like I don't care I don't have to care about something unless I should does that
Starting point is 01:56:35 make sense yeah and I'm happy that Gwyneth Paltrow unlocked that for you somehow goop came up and then Sudi was with us that day and she was like did you guys read that New Yorker interview with her where she was like yeah people make fun of goop for being for like rich women and it's like yeah it is so okay like i'm like i i'm like i don't agree with that like with like what she's like saying necessarily but i love that attitude a lot yeah just like i don't care that you're making fun of this thing that i do because it's you're just saying what it like i'm like oh yeah that is like such a helpful mindset to be like no like i reject the the the
Starting point is 01:57:13 like the the the connotation you're putting behind what i do when it's literally like the intention anyway it's like this is such a dumb but whenever whenever whenever whenever anyone tells you as a comedian, like I'll tell this to like all of our comedian friends who are like, who like get like rightfully like tripped up about, you know, fucking comedy central comments on Instagram being like, this person's gay.
Starting point is 01:57:36 It's like, yeah, that's a gay, that's a gay person doing comedy. It's, it's already, it's already be, it's already be Ellen on time.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Yep. I'm gay. But it's like, it's, it literally is like, I don't, be ellen on time yep i'm gay but it's like it's it literally is like i don't yeah who cares anyway i'm so that's to say that these episodes will be long as hell because they're long because they're because they're long they're long it's a long podcast and you only have to listen to a little bit of it thank you so much readers for going on
Starting point is 01:58:02 this for camp for officially joining us on this campaign for the lost culturistas culture awards and um i think that there is a certain song that i want to sing that sort of is going to be the theme song of the culture awards and it goes back to doug's favorite recording artist oh my god yeah i got the To hear more of that song, listen to the Las Culturistas Culture Award episodes upcoming this summer, because that will be the theme song. And it will be a new recorded version of it by me and Bowen.
Starting point is 01:59:05 And we'll figure out how to do that later. Bowen has not signed up on that. Bye! On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Starting point is 01:59:29 Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 02:00:19 We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Sheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.
Starting point is 02:00:45 And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with
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