Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Milky And Slide" (w/ Milly Tamarez & Alise Morales)

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

The sisters are back at it! They're joined by Milly Tamarez and Alise Morales - the hosts of the Betches Sup podcast. You may even recognize Milly's voice from a certain Clown Parade series?? (The Janelis J Show!) This episode has topics! Including nepo babies, Minions, and straight men?? But really they get into doing improv at UCB and the jobs you do in order to survive. And of course they need to discuss child actors and the culture that made them who they are today! This episode? It's wild and you need to get with it! And yes, it's true, the WGA is officially on strike! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that, who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac.

Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out.

You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby,

an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow.

Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Tactile.

Tactile. Hey. Hey. We're in strike mode. We're in strike mode and we're checking in with each other and you out there. People are asking what you can do to support the WGA strike. That is officially happening. We're in it.

As of 12.01 a.m. PST. We're on strike. What can you do to support? Well, I guess you can be like Mrs. Betty Gilpin and destroy AI for one. Yeah, we need to get rid of AI once and for all. And this is what's really

making me see that. Yeah. We need to get rid of AI once and for all. And this is what's really making me see that. Yeah. Finally. It wasn't. It wasn't clear to me earlier. Bicentennial Man. Because that was a parable. That movie.

Can we. Wait. Hold on. We don't talk about Bicentennial Man. We literally don't talk about Bicentennial Man enough. And we'll get back to the writer's strike. But first. But first we have to just touch on Bicentennial Man.

Which speaking of writing. Speaking of writing. Oh fabulous writing. This was an epic space film. This was fantasy. It was drama. It was comedy. It was technology.

It was science fiction. Sci-fi. Which is another word for technology. It's actually roller coaster number 19. Sci-fi is another word for technology. That movie, never forget. The iconic Celine Dion song at the end i'm forgetting then you look at me and i always see i'm so close to bowing what i have been searching for

gag listen to it i'm telling you oh my god c And Celine Dion belts her titties off Why didn't that movie sort of Hit more I guess is my question You had Robin Williams You had a Celine Dion song It had all the makings It had M. Beth Davids M. Beth Davids

Children are not called M. Beth anymore That's actually real culture number 9 Children are not called M. Beth anymore And That's actually real culture number nine. Children are not called Mbeth anymore. And we have an announcement. One of the nominees for best name that people are not named and will not be named going forward anymore is Mbeth. I think we took that category out. Oh my God. Can we just say on the flight back from Orlando, Matt and I sat.

Our flight was extremely delayed. We sat on the plane. We wrote out the entire list of new categories and old ones. Remaining categories for Culture Awards. Stay tuned because you are in for some old favorite categories and also new categories that are sort of more newer than the older ones. Yes.

And we did do that. But anyway, back to the strike. So yes, the Writers Guild is on strike and basically what happened was the studio's response to us was, in a word, pathetic. It's very demoralizing to see where we're sort of at. I guess I thought that it was going to be way easier than it seems like it's going to be. I had heard from my sources, which I now can confirm were bullshit, like there was like one holdout or like that we were almost there on every issue except one or two and like it seemed like it was feasible we'd

reach a agreement but then the response was just pathetic it was very much giving the thing of like well i heard from someone in the know and then in the next breath going well no one really knows anything everyone in hollywood is a fucking liar and also stupid. So why would you turn to your friend who's involved in Hollywood or the entertainment industry, which is another word for Hollywood. It's real culture number eight. Hollywood is another word for entertainment industry.

They're the dumbest people in the world. So why would they know what's happening? I'm just kidding. We really are. We need them. We are pretty dumb. I'm just saying, like, if you have, like, what you think is a good source, stop saying that. Check your sources. Not one of your sources has been good in this or any issue.

Thank you. When a sort of gay guy comes over to you, shaking their shoulders and doing their gay guy thing, because gay guys, I don't know if you noticed, they move in a sort of gay way. You know what I mean? Sometimes I'll be at a bar and a gay guy will sort of gay up to me.

And I go, what are you, gay? And like, hit me with just, here, it's just like this. Like, explain to the readers what I'm doing. Okay, Matt just hit me in a sort of gay, almost faggy way. And I sort of say, and I say something like this, new Ari album Wednesday. And you're like,

gay guy, get out of here out of here because you're a liar you're a liar first of all and then wednesday rolls around and then it's like oh you meant zora larson no miss zora larson has been dragged because her name is zara larson zara that's what i meant but now that's what i said now it doesn't matter at all we actually love zara larson we love zara larson yes wait that's a good one what's a good song we've been listening doesn't matter at all. We actually love Zara Larsson. We love Zara Larsson. I love Zara Larsson. You don't ruin my life. You don't ruin my life. You don't ruin my life. Yes!

Wait, that's a good one. What's a good song we've been listening to and you know what I'm talking about? Well, it's a tie between two. Go ahead. Both by Maisie Peters. Period!

It's Lost the Breakup and Body Better. The way I became so proud to see literally Bowen become like a Maisie Peters stan like in hours. We're seeing her at Radio City. Yes, we are. You should all come. Speaking of live

performance, before we bring our guests in, and we're lucky to have the guests. We're so lucky. The Tony nominations were announced. We want to say congratulations to many of our friends who have been on the podcast who earned nominations today. Ben Platt, Bonnie Milligan, Amber Ruffin. Oh my God, Amber? Yes.

I mean, just shout out to other people we don't know and have never met and may never meet. Have you met? You've met Sara Bareilles. I have not met Sara Bareilles.

Oh. Oh my gosh. Of course I've met Sara Bareilles. But it was in such, I met Sara Bareilles at Elsewhere. What? Because that's where we shot

our episode of Girls by Veva. And it was very much, I was like, what am I? I was like, it was also my first time back at Elsewhere since lockdown. And I was like, God, I remember all the parties that used to happen here. And it was like Sara Bareilles being so chill, cool, normal, cool girl. Sara Bareilles. Okay, can we spoil a category? There's a category called Alison Williams Cool Girl Award.

Oh my God. Are you saying that Sara Bareilles is a nominee for the Allison Williams Cool Girl Award? Absolutely. That is so amazing. And I can't wait for the awards. I also want to say shout out to fucking Julia Lester, who slayed a little red and into the woods. And they remember her. And also Ruthie Ann Miles did The Beggar Woman.

And let me say this. As a sort of Asian guy me and as a sort of gay guy me Ruthie is our queen wow that's amazing we intersect at Ruthie you and I you and I it's great to have something in common

speaking of cool girl award speaking of cool girl award and people having things in common our two guests today host a podcast they host a podcast on the huge major huge betches platform betches sup betches it's the sup it's where you get politics news, pop culture news, topical, queendom. The vibe is group chat. It's giving. Hey, everyone, gather round. We're talking. Hey, everyone, I'm changing the

group chat pic and I'm adding a couple more folks to this. And you're going to want to add to contacts. Whenever I see someone be so bold in the group chat, and I'm on record on this. Oh, yeah. To change the picture. I go, go off. Or just add people.

I say, oh, my God. I can't imagine being so confident. Sometimes I leave the house and I think, I'm not the person who's going to add people to the group chat today. Our guests are. Our guests do it all the time. This is the Betches Sup podcast. And you know and love our guests

from their other work as well. And listen, one of them is even a return guest on the podcast and the other had the Janellis J show on the clown parade. And I'm telling you, that shit made me laugh. So funny.

Really, really, really, really well. Wow. I laughed well. You know, we were in Disney and we kept saying, wow, we ate well. I laughed well. You know we were in Disney and we kept saying wow we ate well. I laughed well when I listened to that podcast. Oh yeah. Janellis. Together they are a force. Absolutely. And actually they're

a threat to us. They're a threat. Well we're very excited they're here though. Very excited they're here and there is a category at this year's Culture Awards that can spoil which is biggest current threat to us. Yes. I don't know excited they're here and there is a category at this year's Culture Awards that can spoil which is biggest current threat to us. Yes. I don't know if they're nominated but I think there's going to be a lot

of sort of, let's call it, you know comedy comedians and duos that host podcasts who are definitely threats to us. Definitely. And we have our eye on them and we'll see. We'll see and we're... Watch this space. Watch this space. We're so happy they're here. Everyone, welcome.

Elyse Morales and Milly Tavares! Oh my goodness. For your consideration. FYC. Oh my gosh. I feel like you've threatened us in the past already. Yeah. Just offhandedly.

Like, I can't remember exactly when, but I'm sure like individually and as a duo, you've threatened us. Like, I'm going to come to your house. Bowen. That sounds like us. Bowen, do you not remember our first artistic collaboration with me and Elise?

Yes, yes, yes. What was it? It was Raleigh Williams' play about the Chilean minors that we did at the Annoyance Theater. All Latino cast. Who was the director? Asian gay guy.

Asian gay guy. Bowen Yang, directed a show with an all Latinx cast. And it was so, so fun. And it was an interactive, like, sleep no more, like play at the Annoyance. It was an immersive play. We took over every room. And then in the end,

we all got out through, like, the hatch door up to the street. So we would reenact the Chilean mind collapse every night for every Saturday and Bowen was the director and Bowen was the director so let's sort of shift the conversation to why you thought why you thought

that it was a good idea for you to take on that responsibility of leading that show that's an amazing valid question this is my answer you know Raleigh Williams came up to me said I have this to take on that responsibility of leading that show? That's an amazing valid question. Yeah. I know. That's my answer. You know, Raleigh Williams came up to me, said, I have this show in mind. I love when a conversation

starts like that. It's about this. It's about the Chilean miners. And I go, my dad works in mining. I'm the perfect director for that. And he said, you're the gay guy to direct this. And that is my only, that is the only time I've like really had nepotism work in my favor.

You know, and that's what I'm saying. You know, and that's part of my I don't think so, honey. Oh! She launched into it now. No, it's like, I'm the nepo baby of Dominican hair salons in South Florida. The era of parents.

Exactly. Comedy, absolutely not. Entertainment, no. But if you want to open a Dominican hair salon in South Florida, I'm your fucking

nepo baby. There's royalty in the house. And that's what we're not talking about. No. Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller.

And that's your example? Well, because, okay, because the Nepo babies I'm coming in hot I'm coming in hot we're not ready

we're not ready we're not ready they're like oh it's the same thing like oh if your parents a doctor then you're a doctor and it's like

well uh first of all no second of all yes yeah uh huh good point

it is no and yes you know definitely my dad's a minor I should direct this thing like go off. And I remember you bringing that. I brought it, and it was really important. I believe you opened the hatch. I was the one who opened the hatch.

And no one else could have done that. No. Only someone with a father who works in mining could have done that. For real. Would even know how to hold the turner, what do you call it? The lever on the hatch. But we did that show every fucking Saturday for like a year and a half.

For like a year and a half. Isn't it crazy how there aren't more stories of people falling in those hatches on the street? Those are everywhere, by the way. People do. One of my top fears. Falling through like one of the grates? Yes.

Yeah, it's really crazy to think about that it could happen at any time. And it's something you- The city is full of holes. The city is full of holes. Actually, rule of culture number 51... The city is full of holes. The city is full of holes. Actually, rule of culture number 51. The city is full of holes. You'll notice that I didn't say New York City is full of holes.

Every city is full of holes. You have to watch out for where you are stepping or standing. And hear it on this podcast right now because you don't think about this in other cities necessarily as much as New York. But there are holes everywhere. You know what? Think about this in other cities necessarily as much as New York, but there are holes everywhere. And you know what? And that's why we're all desensitized because constantly showing hole on timeline. That doesn't mean anything.

I know. I could see this walking outside my apartment. Excuse me. And guess what? That hole ain't going to kill me. Well, you don't know. Well, well, well, well. You don't know. You're right.

You're right. Culture blind spot. Some of these holes are out to kill. We know firsthand. Well. Have you ever sent a hole ever? Have you ever sent a hole? No, you know what?

I just read too many revenge porn. I don't play those games. I don't do pictures. I don't do anything. I think like maybe the four of us all before, like I think we all had the sense early on that we were like, let's not, let's not pass these.

Oh, I didn't have that sense. I was sending a lot of hole. Can I say, I was not into pictures till the pandemic. And then, you know, it was very much a game of like,

what can I say to this guy to get him to send me a picture of his dick? Right. And then he's like, that hole I say to this guy to get him to send me a picture of his dick? Right. And then he's like. Sort of that whole is like what you have in your cards of deck. But I never do it. Yeah. See, that's the thing though.

I don't want a return image. Like whatever I sent photos, I just was like, gaze upon me. I don't need anything in return. And I remember one time a guy sent me something in return and I was like, get it off my phone. I guess the ideal thing is to send a picture of yourself and have the response be somewhere along the lines of like fuck or like fuck babe or like wow or like holy shit and then if you get send something back from a guy what you're getting is a dick pic right right and i'm not blown away by dick i've never really been like a there's some good

ones but i'll say this one time i sent a picture of me in a bra and the guy friend zoned me so so the because he probably expects no he's like you know what you're a really great friend and i'm like okay never doing this again what picture of you in a bra? It was just the bra and nothing else? It was my face and me in a nice bra. And he was like, hey, we're good friends. Fuck him. The thing about being friend zoned by a straight man is that when you're friend zoned by a straight man, they'll still fuck you. That is what friendship is for straight men.

It is like, we're still going to bug. You're just my friend. And also, it's so is for straight men. It is like, we're still in a bug. You're just my friend. And also, it's so hard dating straight men. We can go into that, but it's just the whole thing. I would love to go into it because I feel like I've lost touch. With straight men. With straight men. I genuinely want to get back in.

Well. You've been with one for many years. I know. I'm married to one. Married even. I committed myself to one and I was just thinking that I have like one ancient nude on my phone

and the person who receives that nude is now my husband so do with that so you're saying if I'm to sort of like excavate what you're saying here you've sent nudes to only one man no I've sent nudes before but i only have

one nude on my phone that i keep because i really thought it was a good one and i think the angles are great and check it out the flashing of the ring it really is good it's a little green. We did an Emerald band. Okay. Let me see. Reader, it's beautiful. Katie, this one's for you, actually. It's beautiful. We got it off Jared.com. Previously used collections.

Wow. That's amazing. And you know what? Someone either died or divorced, and now it's mine. Wow. And I'll just say this. You know, me and Elise, two Latina women, really funny, know a lot about the news, really well informed. Our only toxic trait is that we're straight, unfortunately.

But... Not even toxic when you know how to handle it. You know what I mean? When you know how to handle being straight, I don't find it to be toxic at all. So how does someone not know how to handle being straight? The same way that a gay guy can barely handle being a gay guy. Imagine you saw me out at a bar. You didn't know who I was.

And I'm sort of moving over to you like a gay guy. See what I'm doing with my hands? Is that the Babadook? Yeah, that's Babadook. It's giving Babadook. When gay men are acting like the Babadook, they're like, okay, they can't handle it. And when straight people are, it's like the opposite, right?

So the gay guy guy he's sort of coming over to you like this like just get to the point and get over here and say what you need to say so much like first of all it's like well first of all I'm in a gay club they're like okay Jennifer Hudson and I'm like okay oh my god not okay Jennifer Hudson

listen that has happened it's happened this is what we're saying gay guys don't know how to handle that. So then tell me about the straights. But straights, this is what they do. They come in and amble over. They take up a lot of space immediately. At least gays know to like only take up some room.

Gay guys are Babadooks. Straight guys are like the... Minions, I feel. Minions. Just like... Thank you for saying that. I'm talking on top of each other. Banana.

So many of them. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana.

Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana of them. Yeah. Yeah. Banana Badoo.

It's very banana Badoo. Can we talk about the Minions phenomenon? Because I don't think we ever have. Okay. Minions are only men. The guy that created

the Minions are like there are no female Minions because Minions are stupid and women would never. This is literally quoted like fucking look it up. There are no Minions.

So what is Minion reproduction I guess? Do any of them? What is it? Or does that guy just create them? Gru is his name. Like fucking look it up. There are no minions. So what does Minion reproduction, I guess, do? I don't even know. What is it? Or does that guy just create them? Gru is his name. I'm sorry. First of all.

First of all. I'm showing a blind spot. No, it's okay. I think we all have this blind spot in different ways. How do they get created? Well, the Minions movie is a prequel to Despicable Me. It's before Gru finds them. He finds them?

Or before they go to Gru. Is it an Oompa Loompa scenario? Yeah. It basically is. It's an Gru finds them. Or before they go to Gru. Is it an Oompa Loompa scenario? Yeah, it basically is. But they're all men. Wait, you know what I just realized? Minions is ripped off from the Oompa Loompas. Wait a second. Let's talk about it.

Let's fucking go there. The guy who created Despicable Me, his name is Cinco Paul. He's a wonderful, created schmigadoon. Wow. So what you're saying is we have to walk this back? No, no, don't walk it back. No, we walk what back?

Minions is an interesting thing because I guess it's one of those things where it's like... Republican? No, it's Facebook where it's like, I created it. No, I created it. Justin Timberlake what we need is

we need Aaron Sorkin to get to typing again yeah so we can have the Minions social network what's the Minions what's the monologue for the Minions social network

lawyer up asshole yes well you know it's like it's not Rooney Mara but Kate Mara in a scene like dumping him by being like

and all you're ever gonna be is a banana loving freak. And so he's like, how do I take this banana insult and make it into, sorry, but a franchise. A franchise. Yeah. And then, like, hearing somebody speak Spanish, not understanding what they're saying. It's like, what if they were minions? Yeah.

Because half of the shit they're saying. You think that's how it started? No, half of the little, when the minions are mumbling, half of those words are Spanish. And I'm like, is this racist? We can't unpack. We can't unpack. We can't go there. God. I have, you and I have, let's just say, Been racist? No, no, no. I mean,

sure. Thank you. But Matt and I have done, I Don't Think So Honey's in Different Cities. I Don't Think So Honey's in Different Cities. That's true. There was someone who unfortunately did I Don't Think So Honey Minions. cities. That's true. There was someone who unfortunately did I don't think so many Minions. So it was a well-meaning, I guess,

white woman who said, we all know that they're supposed to be Asian people. Whoa. And I was like, wait a minute. I don't think we all know.

They're speaking in Asian language, aren't they? And I'm like, oh, okay. Did we all know that? I don't think we all know it. But you know what?

I don't want to victim blame here, but trying to find 50 unproblematic comedians in each major city. What a challenge. It wasn't that she was... Her interpretation of Minions was like, wait, no wrong takeaway.

They're not supposed to be... I do love... Well, we all know. And then saying something completely fucking nuts. That is... That's half a TikTok is that is half of TikTok that is half of TikTok the dumbest person you've ever met putting on makeup saying

the dumbest shit you've ever heard in your fucking life and then they're also proud of that because they're like the thing about TikTok is people just really respond when you just don't care and it's like here's the thing about creating content when you hashtag just don't care is that you're gonna say some shit that like you're barely thinking about but you are still responsible for and then it gets tick-tocked out into the

world and there you go well that's the thing about like that's the thing that sucks about twitter being dead it's that like it's just like it's so much easier to type a few fucking words and someone might screenshot it but it's just less so it's like okay now if i want to make a joke or something i'm gonna have to fucking make a video edit it on 50 filters i know have some guy call me a fat hoe eight times and then like have a gay guy be like okay jennifer hudson okay jennifer hudson and now that's out and then it's just like this is so much effort so it's like for you to keep up the way that you keep up with the algorithm is you have to make a lot of shit. And then after make a lot of shit, it's like the hashtag just don't care. But then you just don't care.

You're going to say some dumb shit. And then while, you know, you know, you're like, let me tell you about this girl's like, let me tell you about the worst fucking date I went on. He let the door close in my face and i'm like cool and then it's like there needs to be trigger warnings of like if you're under 24 i need to know before yeah before it just pops up on the fyp because i'm listening like you're making sense and then then i find out at the end of the video that you're 22 yeah right i i was very disturbed the other day because i you know i'm scrolling through tiktok and i got a girl i mean she was clearly 12 years old because it was get ready with me to go to a bat mitzvah and i was

just like i can't yeah right i i can't we can't do Also, the fact that like a person of bat mitzvah age is like a makeup expert. I know. I guess that's another thing for me is like when you peek into TikTok and you peek into like Gen Z or like super young culture, it's like they look so much older than they are. I think like and that's why the 22 year olds of it all sneaks up on you is because, oh, these are kids, young kids, but they look 32. So what age is everyone trying to look like? 29? That's actually a really good question. I would say 27.

Yeah, I think everyone is trying to look 27. That's so true. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.

You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+.

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine.

I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby,

journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to levels to this with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby and I Heart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. There's a girl who, this is, I mean, and this is like symbolism to everything. Symbolism. Symbolism. Ready? symbolism to everything symbolism symbolism ready this girl i was watching her get ready for her little fucking um tryouts for this alabama like dance team for college and i'm seeing her get ready she's like doing her hair doing her makeup beat beat beat like multiple things and then you're seeing her with the outfit change and she's like this is margiela like super super expensive

because first or first they do like the actual like interview because it's kind of like they want everyone to be like the southern bell so they they interview people that you have to answer questions and then you do the actual dance part yeah so i'm watching this bitch get like beat her face talk about this wear the outfits whatever and then someone's like show us the tryout. Like, you know, whatever. And each thing's getting like 300,000 likes. When you finally see this bitch dance, you're like, girl. No.

Girl. Spend an hour less on the pack, you know. Yeah, you got to go to nursing school. Yeah. Or not even nursing school. Just rehearse the dance more and do less makeup. And I feel like that's half of the thing with tiktok and me and elise have been in the game for a while and we talk about it no shade you know this is now we're gonna keep it real but it's like keep it real keep it fucking real you know

yeah there are people that you know the pandemic happened and then you get out of the pandemic and i'm doing shows and i've been fucking doing comedy. I've been doing comedy over 10 years. I get somewhere, pack fucking theater, and this person just bombs. And I'm saying this person because it's like multiple people. Bombs. And I'm just like, yo, what the fuck? Looks great.

Looks great. Feet banging. Feet banging. Face beat. Whatever. Looks great. Bombs. And and then i'm like what the fuck like why the fuck like this but they're big right but they're like then i go home and i look at their their instagram tiktok 500 000 followers this and this and that and i'm just like whoa like that is what's up young comedian who's listening to this that's done a show with millie is sweating bullets right now. Like, oh my god, it's me.

And the thing is, though, like, I reserve my ire less for them and more for, like, the fact that, like, it has become, like, sort of acceptable enough to be, like, well, they cut their teeth on TikTok. We know that they're a certain level of influencer. But then it's like, yeah, I guess that's good for the show because it puts butts in seats

or good for whatever because it gets attention. But also then that person is not ready. And then I feel like it's easy, yeah, I guess that's good for the show because it puts butts in seats or good for whatever because it gets attention. But also then that person is not ready. And then I feel like it's easy to get demoralized and get really insecure because, and I don't take it for granted because we've also been doing this a very long time. And like those years, those like hard yards of like going out and doing, you know,

three shows in a night, you know, five plus shows in a week. Like it's, it makes you good at it and so these people that had to come during the pandemic like i'm actually even more blown away when they actually are good because they don't have stage time they don't they don't have the hours totally and i don't have ire for them i'm just like yeah no i know and like people do like a copy pasting of like oh this thing with this person like they're good at instagram they're good at tiktok like i'm gonna copy them and do this myself and it's like you still have to do

the thing honey like you still have to show up and do these like three shows or at least like put a little bit into the art pay four grand for improv lessons yeah you're not paying four grand for improv lessons. Yeah, after not paying four grand for improv lessons. Go up every week. Don't get paid. Do sold out shows. That is an interesting question, though. Aren't we all so glad we did that? Because I don't regret it.

I kind of threw that away. But I don't regret it. But I do think there wasn't... I don't know that it was set up the best way. And that's okay. I don't regret it. But I do look back on it and go like it's fucking nuts that we were doing so much for free and and once it actually shifted to people starting to put up their own shows where it's like oh you can get a cut at the

door like just once that like mental shift happened it's so wild to think back on the time where it's like no but it's right that we're doing all of this for free and the shows are sold out but no it's good it's good i guess i have a different experience with it because i think that it wasn't set up in a way we're talking about ucb by the way. And like theater schools and general improv schools. The theater system. The theater system. But it's just like it was set up in a way that made you think that if this place doesn't fuck with you. There you go.

And if you didn't make it here, you ain't shit. And the thing that I personally had a problem with as a performer is like a lot of those people did not get me they didn't get what I was putting down they didn't get my energy it was like a thing that they never you know a lot of the people making decisions were white men white women and it was like I was coming with a different energy and all that stuff, and I didn't fit into what they thought. So I just was never fostered into the best. It wasn't like, I see who you are, and I'm going to make you into the best version

or the funniest version, or here's the fundamentals. This is a place where you can learn these fundamentals of comedy that you can go and apply to your own self. It was like, no, this place, if we say you're not fucking it, where you can learn these fundamentals of comedy that you can go and apply to your own self it was like no this is this place like if we say you're not fucking it you ain't it and then maybe after a while we'll tell you to go do something else so for me that's like a thing where i'm like thank god i didn't listen or like you know what i mean but yeah like for people who like they never really fucked with or are really you know it was just. And then I see the people that they celebrated, you know, knowing that like actively like hating on me or like saying that, listen, you care too much about, you know, stuff like that.

Like literally. Yeah. That's the part of the system that can be so difficult is because like if it was framed as a way of like, listen, this is a place because the education is good. Like learning the fundamentals and the rules of comedy is important and i mean i think that's like that thing of like i don't regret it and i learned and i met and i networked but it's kind of like college where it's like you do have to like go explore and do something else or whatever it's not like this thing anyway the developmental track not guaranteed. Or it's like if you can't clear a certain stage gate, then like you kind of are left to like your own devices. And I think like Elise was someone who like went off on her own and like started her own shows.

You were always doing your own stuff. You were always doing it. You really were. Well, a lot of it was because of some of the stuff Millie was saying because I like I got to a certain place within the UCB system. Lloyd Knight. Thank you so much. That's junior varsity improv. stuff Millie was saying because I like I got to a certain place within the UCB system uh Lloyd Knight thank you so much that's junior varsity improv and um but then like I started pitching to the theater and they would never put my like original ideas up really so then I was like okay

well I'm gonna start putting my shows up elsewhere. And then I was like, oh, I'm actually getting money. Yeah. Even if it was a little bit of money, it was something. And like literally saying at least your dinner and cab could have been paid for that or a few drinks, which was so, you know, it felt really big. Yeah, it did. It did.

And one nice thing that I will say is that I've done a couple improv shows in the post-pandemic environment and i think the vibe is really good oh good and it's because the hierarchies have been burned down well that's probably what's trying to happen honestly well yeah they are trying to come back but in right now right now there's like i think a good energy where it's like no one's trying to get on like there's no status yeah there's no you're not really trying to get anything out of it it's all love of the game yes and also the thing is when you say they're trying to come back

I feel like you know what good try and come back but also with knowing what you know yeah as an organization like whatever organization you're at if you're some if you're rebuilding now in the year of our Lord 2023 like understand that you need to build from a diverse and like welcoming

and like well-rounded place and not just like restore what was because look like of course the pandemic was a huge reason why these things went down and it's always sad whenever like a business like that takes a hit and like ultimately like needs to completely rebuild but also i don't think that was the only reason why they went I honestly think like there's a lot of reasons yeah tons of reasons and like we all started feeling like power in numbers for people

who felt like they were talented but not feeling like they had a place in a certain area and they were amazing people there I was gonna say like I think the people in our like cot, coterie milieu, whatever, everyone was so good. Yes. Everyone was great.

So many people are doing so well. Like, whenever I realized, like, the first place that I met, like, Darcy Carden, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, was when she was hosting, like, Backyard Brawl at midnight, which was the sketch competition at UCB. That was, I believe, on, like, a Monday at midnight or something. sketch competition at UCB that was I believe on like a Monday at midnight or something or like whatever or Friday maybe it was a Friday or Saturday but like a late night show like

and what is really cool is like you see people both that were involved in that system and were good people go on to success and also people that were flat out rejected by that system and gone on to huge success I'm sitting next to Bowen Yang. I mean, like, never made it on a house team, like, et cetera.

I'm the Abby and Alana of my generation. Well, it was a joke. Of my micro generation. But it was a joke. That was a joke that people were saying. Like, you know, Abby and Alana never made it on a house team and it became like LOL like a bit. But then, like, also, they didn't.

They didn't. You know what I mean? And then they also went on to become iconic. And I do think that that that Abby and Alana never made it on a house team ethos yeah

is why our improv grade ultimately generation was so like personally motivated to do other stuff and start other shit

and do this and that and the other thing because we had this like big example right well yeah not needing to make it in the hierarchy. And I mean, I think that's just.

So I did get on Junior Varsity and practice. So everyone's confused. I was on Lloyd Knight. The Lloyd system. Well, I think it's just like with the energy of like, these people do not fuck with me. These people don't see me. What can I do? Can I kill myself to try to like make fit in their mold or can i just go do my

own thing or start my own shit and it's a lot of people are like you know what i'm just gonna do my own shit i'll get money i'll get 20 at the end or like i'll create it you know i mean that's like half of my shit is like how can i make it easier for other people yeah and like when i became a teacher because i taught at BCC for a while, and it's just like the energy that was given to me, the people who bottleneck, me and Elise were talking on the way over here of like, some people just live and their goal is to gatekeep.

Right. And there's people. You were talking about us, weren't you? Yeah, yeah. We're talking about you guys. How are we going to handle this? How are we going to handle this? Getting in here.

They just want to gatekeep so much. No, but it's like, you know, my whole ethosos is like how can i make it easier for the people after me and also like as a teacher it's like i'm not gonna try to change anybody's shit i just want to make see what people are giving me and and make that better like you know like bring out what you're trying to say you know in this stand-up set and see if you can say it more efficiently or something like that. And I feel like I can't do anything about the past or anything, but it's just like having that pain and the thing. It's like, well, first of all, like keep you going. And also, like, I'm sure both of you know, being naturally talented and being naturally funny isn't enough.

It's so much. It's just you got to be like producing your shit. I mean, I'm preaching to the choir. It's a full time job. Exactly. And then especially when that comes at a time. And this is OK. I always felt a certain type of way about people that did not have to work a survival job or I did not have to be grinding because I was just like, oof.

Like it's and it's no one can whatever like I don't know what this even means no one would avoid that kind of thing of like oh gosh I'm in a cushy situation let me actually like reject that let me toss away this privilege and this like blessing I've been given which is all this time

but it is different and I also I just remember the the idea that we had to constantly pay and obviously like this is part of the cutting teeth of it all which is just like i would work all my shifts at the restaurant so i could make sure i could pay rent and pay for a ucb class and then my bank account would go down to like 20 and i would start again that literally zero in checking so much and like well first of all i was also hopping the turnstile at first avenue yes great turnstile fuck the mta it's a great one you still do that

and i do it just for the thrill yeah um and i worked so i mean most of my jobs were like after school programs or like nannying because they gave me like the more it was like a good time period to be working because you're just it me like the more it was like a good time period to be working because you're just it's in the afternoon but you get out in time for shows but i also worked crazy weird side hustles i worked for this like company that sold broadway tickets and it was just now they're like a legit company but i was there when they were like in their startup era and they would hand me $2,000 in cash. I would go to Times Square. Oh my God.

I would go to Times Square. Someone would use the app and like, I think the person who was using the app would think like a purchase was automatically being made. But what would actually happen is they would text me and I would go to the theater and buy the tickets in cash. And it was really, really crazy. And I remember one time like the CEO was in the office and he started grilling me being like, what are you going to say if they ask if you're with our company? And I'm like, I don't know. Am I supposed to say I'm not with the company? Like, I guess it was a secret for some reason. and then I ultimately

did have to quit that job because they made me work on Thanksgiving which you know happened but then they were like we need you to go to Rockefeller Center and get tickets and I was like okay I can't because the Macy's Day parade is occurring and it's actually in between me and and where the tickets are and they were, you need to figure it out. I'm like, I'm literally looking at Santa right now. Like I cannot get, I cannot go. And then they were angry with me and I said, I'm done with this job.

Can I tell you? They wanted me to like run across the Macy's Day Parade. Wow. My crazy Times Square job is that I worked at Dave and Buster's Times Square job is that I worked at Dave & Buster's Times Square as a photographer. So he's a creative. Yeah, he was a creative.

So I would go up to tables. I would work Dave & Buster's Times Square, Dallas BBQ Times Square, and the Dallas BBQ in Chelsea. Ratchet as hell. Go up to tables and be like oh i'm doing a promotion can i take your picture take their picture print it onto a keychain and then i try to hustle them back like get money and like there were so many rules and like i couldn't

say this cost us there was like a way because basically if you say this for tip people will just give you a dollar and i have to from whatever make that day, I have to give somebody a cut. This woman I've never met who gave me the camera, who gave me the printing surprise, whatever. So you try to hustle, not hustle people, but it's like, yo, give me $5 for a fucking keychain. Or like, I'll print you 10 for 30 or something like that. Like, you know, whatever. Were you good at this? I did get good.

I did get good. But get good but it took a fucking minute because before that job i was working at a grocery store and that shit i remember i worked overtime during hurricane sandy overtime overtime during hurricane sandy at a grocery store at a grocery store and my check was 183 which is time and a half. So then I got this like random ass job in Times Square during the holidays in like 2012. And I was riding the train every night at like 3 in the morning to the Bronx with

$500 in my pocket. Like, yo, what the fuck? But by the end, like even when I had my first day job where I was making $13 an hour working for this corporate receptionist shit, I would make like, I would go in a saturday afternoon and i could make like a like 150 dollars nice like in a four at the time nice yeah isn't that funny it's like it's like that gets you like a margin into what your rent is but like i'm thinking back to what that would have felt like

150 dollars would have been like extra money 2014 math that's like yeah no that was like all my extra shit so that's what i'm doing right i'm working 905 in a fucking office with people treating me like shit then i go to fucking time square on saturday and work this stupid ass job and then after work once a week i would do these improv practices and i'm paying paying the coach paying the place and the people i'm with like i'm like, what'd you do this week? And they're like, oh yeah, you know, just hung out. And then, and then like, I'm like, yo, wait, how does this girl pay rent? Yeah.

And then it's like, oh, her dad copyrighted a term that's used. Her dad copyrighted March Madness. I'll just never forget like going to NYU. Yeah. Literally going, especially going to NYU where like, I guess I didn't understand because growing up like very working class on Long Island,

like I wasn't around just like wealthy people. Yeah. And like, I would have friends that lived on like the South shore of Long Island that like had money and you knew it because you could see their homes. Then you go to school and you can't see people's homes where they come from like yeah kind of like figure it out with how they dress but i wasn't looking at that i was far too concerned with what was going on with me very in my head and then i remember meeting people like freshman sophomore year of nyu for the first time

and having a conversation and then going over to their apartment and it's like whoa millions and millions of dollars of value and like literally like the best parts of the city i'm like oh my god and it was so many people it felt like i'm like wow there's a lot of like wealthy people yeah i'm like how many rich people are in ohio like right like how is everyone fucking rich and you're like i mean i guess if this is all you know then it's all you know but like i'm seeing it and I'm calling it out. And whenever I found someone at that school that was also like from a background like me, we always connected about it. Totally. But like I guess that's part of coming up in comedy and a place like New York where it's like it is kind of this big like hodgepodge of like people from different classes and walks and like all this stuff.

And you're like, oh, it is sort of an eyeopening thing. I feel like there was an awakening for me after college. Once I started taking UCB classes where I was like, Oh, like, yeah, there's a whole other. Yeah.

People who like live completely different lives. Right. I would overdraft constantly. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. And it was so shameful, like to have to like go to someone and ask for money or

like you know ask for like it's just like i remember my parents like i think it was two times i allowed myself to like go back and ask them for money because i was always my i always wanted to do it myself yeah because duh like you know what i mean like you want to feel like especially in your mid to late 20s like even though you know you picked something that's atypical and there are no guarantees like you want to at least feel like you can support yourself and those times when you couldn't was so frustrating which also broke my heart about the pandemic because i thought about people like us yeah you know who literally needed those opportunities and jobs and what makes me really sad is knowing that like kind of an entire generation of comedy or people that could have like

cut their teeth doing live stuff and like maybe couldn't figure out the tech talk or instagram of it all like that they like either had a lot more hardship or that they probably just didn't even totally pursue it yeah yeah i i genuinely do feel bad for truly anyone even slightly younger than us going through the pandemic like i feel so bad for college kids who had to go if i had had to go fucking home and live with my mom and dad during that time college forget it i would have gone insane and then in those first years yeah where it's like i needed a like service job i was nannying or whatever like i couldn't just lose my job talking about all this reminds me that I when I first moved to New York I got

a stupid credit card that I should never have been given to me and I cash advanced my rent for like a while and I just paid that bitch off 10 years in the making so god and that's normal

or that's even like abnormal or whatever you know well i'll just say that like during the pandemic i was teaching virtually like comedy classes right and a good thing was like what you're saying is there were people i don't know i'm just like yeah i think that they're missing there was something they missed out on which is like the community which i think that is what the theater system brings up is the community of things but i will say that like there are people in my classes from seattle baltimore for this stuff and instead of them all having to move to la or new york they were able to access these things virtually from wherever they were yeah and we had like recitals and all this stuff.

And, I mean, that's, like, the cool thing about social media and all that stuff is, like, it is this lower barrier of entry, but it is just a different skill than, like, live performance. And it's coming back, like, that whole thing with the theaters and everything. It's coming back. I feel like these young girls out here. Yeah, these young girls. These young girls.

I think that, like like what I observe of them is that they have like a very tight community. That's good. I feel like I watch over them on Instagram story and I'm like, good for all of you. And they're all like starting, and again, they're starting from a place, I mean, in some ways I'm like, oh, they missed, but in another way it's like,

oh, they're already starting with like this consciousness of like, I don't need this old white guy to tell me that I'm not funny. I'm going to make my own shows and I'm going to do my own shit and I'm going to dress pretty and I'm going to look nice. And I'm going to do my comedy about how guys suck and all this shit. And they're starting already from like this place of benefit. Whereas like I was told in, it's like, you haven't watched Star Wars. Like,

why would you even do standup? You don't know this episode of the Simpsons I'm referencing. And it's like, oh, this, you know what I mean? Name the sex in the city girls. Name them.

Yeah. Name the fucking living single girls. Name any Latino. Like you don't give a shit about when talking about culture that's like my barrier of entry to be able to do this comedy form this art form that has nothing to do with specifics there's literally just like a plus b equals c that's the comedy formula and all i needed to know was that and you're telling me i have to know white male culture to be able to engage with it right but you don't have a fucking hobbit exactly i have to read the

hobbit and jack up to lord of the rings but you don't have to know any of my shit right you don't have to know anything about south florida you have to go anything about the caribbean or latin america or anything like that that was the thing that and then instead you know and i'm that's what i'm saying i'm like what's really cool about this younger generation is like oh I'm just going to do my own thing over here. This is the perfect segue into asking Millie because we've not asked Millie and then we do hear Elise wants an addendum to her answer

from seven years ago. We'll start with Millie. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.

You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo. Or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image,

and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.

We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the shit we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeartWomen sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeartWomen Sports. Millie, Tamera, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? I'm sure someone said this, but the Muppets. Yeah. We were just talking about the Muppets

because we were in Orlando. Yeah. We were in Hollywood Studios and we were walking by a sculpture, a fountain of Miss Piggy dressed as the Statue of Liberty. Which is exactly how she deserves to be immortalized.

Yeah. Well, so my parents, my dad, I mean, I don't have to get super into this, but I'm one of six kids. I'm number five. So when my four brothers and sisters were all living in Harlem, in East Harlem, it was like the 80s and it was not great in New York City.

So my mom and my dad did long distance. My mom went back to Dominican Republic with my four siblings. And my dad lived in New York because he made really good money as a graphic designer. And he would record vhs's this like he would record vhs's of hbo and like the simpsons episodes and like american tv and would send it to my mom and to my siblings to so like one of my like formative things that i would engage with is this vhs from like 1989 or something of like recorded tv yeah and one of his muppets take manhattan which is my favorite one of the greats and and honestly though we're talking about like that was a thing where it

was like wow you know as a kid you're like i like puppets and all this stuff and as an adult you watch that movie and it's literally about making it in new york city yeah they think that they're gonna they're like oh they're the best in their college and they come to Manhattan and they're like, we're going to be on Broadway in two weeks. Yeah. And then they're like,

eat shit. They do all these, and it's just like, wow. And you know, of course, like Miss Piggy. I mean,

where would Millie be without Miss Piggy? Where would any of us be? Where would any of us be? And the thing too is just like, it was such smart sketch comedy in that it was so simple. And that also like the characters never exhausted. Like they were always funny. Like because they all had very clear specific games that they were playing, like LOL game.

But it was just very fun every single time. And so even to this day when I hear like friends of mine that are going up for jobs to work on like a muppets project i'm like that really would be like a really fun environment or you would hope at least and also everyone i talk to that seems to get those jobs seems to be like really smart and like there's just something like that brings us all together about the muppets well yeah the guy who you know jim henson yeah like the muuppets. Well, yeah. The guy who, you know, Jim Henson. Yeah. Like the Muppets for a while had like one season where they did SNL.

So like the seventies and then he like absorbed all the SNL and then went to London and made that Muppets tonight show. Yes. Uh, which is like, yeah, it is like literally sketch comedy. You know, it is very smart and is like whatever. So I thought,

and you know, just the origins of it being like Sesame Street and, but and but like again bringing in these pop culture people and like you know a lot of like black people yeah a lot of queer people a lot of things that you just wouldn't see in any other thing i don't know i just and of course a fat fabulous blonde woman who beats the shit out of her husband. I mean, how could you not? I did one episode of Helpsters, which is a Jim Henson production. And it was so cool to see, like, the actors who do the Muppets.

Like, they're in character the entire time in a way that's really, really awesome. And it was, like, the most amazing environment. I worked with a live parrot named Sarah. The parrot was live? The parrot was real and her name was Sarah. How was Sarah? What was Sarah like? She was wonderful.

They brought her to my trailer so that we could get to know each other. I put her on my shoulder and we walked around and I was like, alright, Sarah. Working with animals is no joke though. A parrot is heavy actually on your shoulder and I did actually need the was like, alright, Sarah. Working with animals is no joke though. A parrot is heavy actually on your shoulder and I did actually need the practice walking around with the parrot. And I did feel very like, I felt

like I was walking very slowly and deliberately with the parrot. Well, yeah, because if you're on TV not holding the animal correctly, that really makes a lot of people justifiably nervous. I remember when I hosted Hot Dog on HBO Max, they built into the schedule before we would shoot

time for me to hold the dogs, be with the dogs. It was literally like Matt plays with the dogs for 20 minutes so they would understand who I was and I would learn how to hold them because if you're on TV holding an animal crazy, the audience gets nervous. Yeah. Well, also, I did this show show this pilot that never aired but it was like so crazy and they needed like three people on staff i'm sure like you're saying

working with animals is no joke like yeah the three people like the animal experts right that have to be there because it was like kind of a disney shoot and there was like horses there was like live horses racing and then one of the horses fell and we had to stop production and it was like horses. There was like live horses racing. And then one of the horses fell and we had to stop production. And it was like such a crazy. And I'm just like, yeah, like people don't get like working on TV with animals is so fucking crazy. Yeah. I don't think so, honey. Like war scenes and like fantasy shows or whatever or any show where it's like the horses have to fall.

Oh, my God. I don't like that. How do you do it? I also feel that way with like babies hysterically crying. Oh. Whenever a baby

is hysterically crying in a movie, I'm like, all right, so at what point are we like, that's a little human or like any living being

that's in distress. You know, some actors won't do movies at all where there's animals. Oh, animals oh animals or yeah i don't know about children but animals like people like they're like get it yeah no i kind of get not kind of i like ruefully no well my whole thing my whole philosophy is that there

are no child prodigies they're just mentally ill adults pushing their kids to fucking act because that shit is like i mean there are kids who are naturally talented blah blah blah but you really do need like a every fucking autobiography or from a child actor is like my mom was so fucked up like she but it's just like that's another thing i think about in terms of like the privilege of it all it's like you also had to be if you're someone who came to college ready with an agent or something and god bless whatever but i'm just saying like my my i was a little kid who was like interested in acting like i always wanted to do this but my parents didn't have time to take me i didn't have time to like you know be involved in things because everyone was just doing their

best to like dude we barely like we're talking about doing self-tapes and all this shit balancing like it's so hard i had a nephew who like there was some online thing and he you know he was seven at the time he lived in the bronx and he got cast for like a gogurt commercial thing or something for like new media and what did that involve that involved me leaving bushwick going to the bronx getting him from after school taking him to harlem to get a ride to go to the studio to get him in makeup to get him in hair this and this and that he did great he was great he was naturally like whatever but i had to watch and he was like trying to play around too much and i was like hey let's go you know and he would whatever straighten up but he did really great all the people after were like he's so good he should keep acting and he really wanted to keep acting but like my and my sister was like are you gonna keep putting I'm like no like I have my own

dreams and then later I have my own dreams and then like now he's 12 or 13 and he brought up casually like over this holiday. He was like, yeah, I really liked acting, but I guess I wasn't good enough to do it again. Oh, and I was a little high. That's not on you, though. Well, I was I was I was a little high. So I was like I was laying down in the bed because I got too high for my cousin's vape. And he's like, yeah. And we had like this heart to heart.

And I'm like, no, honey, like it's not because you're not good enough it's because like you need a parent with disposable or somebody with disposable income and puts everything into you to like be able for you to show up on time and you're not gonna have a normal childhood right that's why i mean like mentally ill adults like yeah because you do need somebody who's like really putting everything into until you can make your own yeah you can make your own sacrifices for your own sake like that's when yeah it's a weird weird line yeah you have to age into that in some way i a little known part of my origin story is that i lived in la till i was 12 so and while I was out there I was a little kid who was really interested in acting so I went to like Lee Strasberg yeah and we did The Hobbit as a play so I am familiar

um and then I did this like kids comedy connection thing that was like an improv thing for kids and the all that people would come do it all the time. I was just thinking about the all that kids. And the big thing that like I personally was like mom you should like make me do it like there were like other kids who was like parents had agents and were doing all this stuff and my parents were just like no we have

lives. Right. We're not like my mom was like I work your dad works we're not spent like we'll send you to these after school things because you like them. But we are not going to be hustling you all over downtown and doing all this shit. Like, we don't have that kind of time. Well, even, like, after school things. I used to do baton twirling.

Oh, I love that. Come on. You, no. Were you good? No. Well, I think I was good at the dancing thing but not like the actual baton twirling but like even to do like after school things your parent has to pick you up from school drop you off the competition the this and that the disposable income to get you the new uniform

it's just like yeah there's a lot of things a lot just to even be the basic like whatever yeah i remember watching all that and like disney channel and everything and we were just in disney world last week and i was thinking to myself like they would shoot there they would shoot which i think got lost and like i feel like when i was little i always thought like oh these kids they live at like universal studios or disney world that must be so fun and then you see like the backstage of those places and it's just like this is not really a place for a kid which is really the whole thing with those theme parks right they project all this stuff for tourism and then when you get there it's like either a working studio or a very workplacey environment so i i'm not surprised that they get involved in things that like they probably

shouldn't be getting involved in like i'm talking about like you know drugs or whatever etc or just like you know getting bored and like fucking with each other in ways because and it's just so crazy to read some of these autobiographies that come out or whatever and like hear their takes because it's like you know their life was not as advertised to us and so part of me is just like while i was that kid that wanted that so bad you can't help but be grateful that things turned out the way that they did because you were not making conscious decisions for your own life it's complicated the child well yeah also i like to think that like we're all gonna make it i mean you know we all have like great careers but it's like then now you have this experience of like hustling and working hard that you can relate to, you know, and then also like grit, which is like you do need grit.

Even if like that's the thing, too, is like I used to get really jealous of like people, you know, like we're talking about people who didn't have to work for the rival job, people, whatever. But, you know, being in this industry, you know, even on the sidelines for so many years, like, I see my friends whose parents pay their rent or this and that. And, like, the first obstacle or the first disappointment, they give up or they're like, oh, whatever. I didn't really like it. And it's like, oh, honey, I'm, like, constantly eating shit. You have to eat shit always, which is just something. And then also, like, yeah, like, I know what it is to work in an office or this and that or whatever. Like I have these stakes, so I'm able to write, perform, whatever from this place of wanting it bad. Yeah, wanting it bad.

But also like having this universal experience, which not a lot of people who grew up in this industry is like don't know that. Like what it's like to have a real job or not care. Yeah. That's what makes Alison Williams her namesake for the cool girl award because she did the one thing that I wish more people would do, which is just to be like when she's confronted

with the nepo baby of it all. She's like, yes. And I love what she said. She was like, look, like totally I had advantages. And my,

the way I think about it is she was like, I started on third base. Yeah. Other people started at home base. Like that's the thing. It's like, yeah, she literally, and she also said this line, which I thought was good, she was like, I started on third base. Yeah. Other people started at home base. Like, that's the thing. It's like. Yeah.

She literally. And she also said this line, which I thought was good, which was, I get it. It's less fun to root for me than other people. I completely understand that. But I do work hard. And so whatever. And so I was like, yeah, good. Don't be annoyed that people are pointing out the fact that you started at third base.

It's how it's how the world works. Just acknowledge it. That's really all people are asking. Yeah, that's the right answer. It's for the acknowledgement. It's just like, just to say like, yeah, I did. I did have all this stuff.

But like, I do work hard. And a lot of those people do work hard or like are talented. You know, like it's not necessarily about talent or whatever. It's just about like the acknowledgement. Well, I think that when a system makes it seem like it's a meritocracy or the people who work the hardest or the whatever are the ones that get it. And it's like really not.

You know, I think that's what people are coming to terms with. Yes. When they like point it out. But again, it is honestly there are so many people with so much privilege that fucking squander the bag fumble the bag like you know that like props to the people who fucking have a bit because i'm just like damn yo if my parents had all this fucking money and they they would fucking fund whatever i want and i still flop which a lot of fucking people do. Yeah. Like, it's just acknowledgement that people want. But it's also like, I'm kind of sick of the nepo baby conversation because it's like,

okay, let's ask Alison Williams and like try to get, you know, because a lot of people are asking like, hey, nepo baby, what do you think about being a nepo baby? Because they're going to be like, mammy. When it's like, why don't you name five people who aren't nepo babies and fuck with them? Why is no one, buy tickets to my shit? Why would I be on Instagram? Pick me. Choose me.

Love me. It's like, you know what it is? The entertainment industry is so publicly merit-based or pretends to be merit-based. We have the Oscars or all these award shows, and we talk so much about what does well or doesn't do well and so we have this idea out there that like this is a business that rewards the best in its field extremely publicly and when that is true that would be fine if every industry was like that but obviously not all industries are as public as this one and so because this industry is just like other industries which is like oh it was a family business etc like the reason why it's annoying for the entertainment industry

for these people who are nepo babies to be like well it's a family business and no one says anything about doctors who go into you know that profession that's because they're not publicly rewarded and given merit again and again and again and it's also like the people who are voting like publicly awarding you are your dad's best friends and also like it's like on a board of white people that are like only care about like you know again the whole andrea riceboro of it all you know what i mean of like five white people have to say that you're great for you to even be you know what i mean and it is not it's not a meritocracy and that's fine. That's what it is.

But it's like, don't play it off like it is. And I think that's, don't play in our faces. Don't play in our faces. We solved it. We solved it. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple.

Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her?

Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new, Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the

age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.

We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty,

founding partner of iHeartWomen Sports. Before we move on, I don't think so, honey. I think we need to give Elise the floor to... We need your addendum to add. Okay, so I have an addendum to my original answer because when we did the podcast like seven years ago, my answer was Harry Potter. You guys actually didn't even ask the question.

We just talked about Harry Potter. That was back in the day when we were like, be like, okay, so I guess we went into the episodes being like, we're going to talk about this. Yes, and while that is still true, I cannot be officially associated with the franchise any longer. Right. So it's tough.

It's tough. It's a long conversation. I do a whole solo show about it. She has a whole solo show about it. I wonder like how, because we've talked about this as this has become a progressing story, the JK Rowling of it all. And Joanna Kathleen is of course sort of growing more nefarious by the J.K. Rowling of it all. And Joanna Kathleen is, of course,

sort of growing more nefarious by the day. Yeah, she aligns herself with the forces of darkness more and more every single statement that she makes. It's staggering. It's very, very, very upsetting. And it is genuinely,

like it is something that has caused me genuine emotional pain. Of course, right? Of course. Because, you know, they're like, whatever, the kids on like TikTok and Twitter or whatever will be like, read another book. And it's like, totally. I can read another book. pain right of course um because you know they're like whatever the kids on like tiktok and twitter or whatever will be like read another book and it's like totally i can read another book i can't

read another book as a nine-year-old right you can't you can't reformulate i can't you like that's just that lives where it lives and at the end of the day like i do still think the books themselves are a beautiful piece of work i think that there is really explicit messaging in there about acceptance and loving people it doesn't have a very like 90s ethos behind it yes but like no problem at the time yeah that's what that's where yeah exactly like it lives in the 90s that's when it was made it's not gonna progress or change from there because it's a written down book but the fact that the creator has refused to progress or change and actually i think has regressed as a person and double triple down yeah that is

extremely unfortunate and it is as much as like i will never not love the books. No one can take that from me. Daniel Radcliffe had that great quote about it. He put it perfectly. But her constant behavior has made it harder to just enjoy this thing that honestly I would have loved to just have an uncomplicated relationship with this wizard book from my childhood. That would be fucking great. But she's made it complicated for everybody and she's committed herself to making it complicated.

Yes. So with that said, my addendum, my new answer, I decided, I said, okay, what is something that affected me before Harry Potter even got into my little brain? What is a piece of media that really got me before I even had gone to Hogwarts? Yeah, before that envelope even arrived by Owl to Privet Drive. And the answer is Beetlejuice.

Beetlejuice. I get that. Yeah. Was Winona Ryder an icon for you? Absolutely. Yeah. That moment where she's just like, I myself am strange and unusual.

Yes. Just like, something has changed within me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She really was. Between that movie, between Heathers, someone recently mentioned her back in the day when Winona was exploding. The thing about it is it's one of those things,

those film entities or types of performer that just arrives and you sort of assume that they were always there or there was always a blueprint for that. Winona Ryder was an original. Girl Interrupted? Yeah, I also was a big Little Women girl. That one really,

me and my mom would watch it every Christmas. I love that. Little Women Atlanta? Little Women Atlanta? How y'all doing? Me and my mom would watch it every Christmas. I love that. Little M in Atlanta. How y'all doing? So, yes, that is my answer. Beetlejuice, okay. I think Beetlejuice is a Valentine's Day movie.

You do? It is the ultimate love story. The red dress at the end? Well, no. It's like the couples, like they love each other so much. They're like fucking going through hell and back and all this stuff and they lived and they,

whatever. And they stay in the house. And they stay in the house and they're together. And I'm like, this is a Valentine's, this is a love story. Alec and Gina.

Alec and Gina. And of course, iconic Catherine O'Hara. Yes. And her outfits, that's how I want to dress. I was like kind of a macabre little child. love story Alec and Gina Alec and Gina and of course iconic Catherine O'Hara yes and her outfits that's how I want to dress I was like kind of a macabre little child and like everything about it imprinted on me my mom went into

labor with my little sister while we were watching Beetlejuice as a family wow fuck Natalie she's the beetle baby but also like fuck your sister for ruining Beetlejuice well I do remember like not really understanding what was going on

and being like it was like the part where he turns into a snake which is a really that really scary part where he's the banister and he's a snake and my mom was like

Felix we have to go to the hospital and I was like you associated it yeah yes like that moment is like seared into my brain and also I was like

well but the movie's not over. And this is a really good part of the movie. And I guess I've always wondered like if we started watching Beetlejuice because my mom was already in labor, but didn't know that she like, but it wasn't time to go to the hospital yet. Like I don't know. Yeah. I'm not actually sure.

And I have not asked her, but I do know that Beetlejuice was interrupted and we were watching it as a family when my sister made her appearance her earth side appearance that is gonna stick in your head when mom's having the baby during Beetlejuice and you know what's cool it's like

creative new IP like they don't do that anymore it's all fucking they don't even that anymore. It's all fucking... They don't even try. They don't even try. You know, it's just like fucking new, and then now there's a show, and there's like...

It's just, I don't know. It's just like new. You must have been horny for this Michael Keaton comeback then. I mean, I wish him all the best always. I do. Michael Keaton, best Batman. I really, really do.

Best Batman. Best Beetlejuice. Best Batman, best Beetlejuice. There do Best Batman Best Beetlejuice Best Batman Best Beetlejuice There was a cartoon There was a cartoon There was a cartoon Best Birdman

Best Birdman Best Batman Guess what You know I'd fuck him I'd fuck him and Guy Fieri I think You'd fuck Guy Fieri

Listen You're at a bar No no no Let me set the scene Let's set the scene Cause I know everyone Has an answer for this Okay

But it's like Who's the person who You know Not necessarily like answer for this. Okay. But it's like, who's the person who, you know, not necessarily like, ooh, this guy's so sexy. But I'm like, this guy talks game. I know if you're at a bar and you're talking and Guy Fieri's spitting game, I'm going home with him. You know what I mean? Like an unconventional, but you know this guy has game. Michael Keaton has game. You know who's mine?

Who's yours? Adrian Brody. He's cute though, but yes. Yeah, but you know what though? He's got that like big old nose. He's got like a weird, he's very skinny. You know what I mean? You can tell he's like not really someone that like is classically handsome, but there's something about him

I find so fucking hot. But okay, this might be too explicit, but he has that pussy nose where it's like when the nose is big like that, you're like, this is It's too explicit, but he has that pussy nose where it's like... That's what I'm saying. When the nose is big like that, you're like, this is great for eating pussy. I'm telling you. That's straight, man. That's straight culture.

Yeah, look at a guy with a big ass nose. You're like, pussy nose. I mean, listen, I have a... Speaking of holes, I have a good butthole that you can put your hook nose in. It's not quite the same. Not the same, but yes. Lock and key. It's not the same lock and key. It's not the same lock and key.

But okay, Adrian Brody, but you know Adrian Brody has game. You know he has game. Definitely. He's spitting game. Somebody who has game. Who has game?

Bowen. I can't think of someone. I really can't. I know. I'm like trying to rack my brain for who I would say that's on the level of Guy Fieri. Tomorrow you're going to text me

and be like, I'm going to think of it afterwards. But there are some, yeah, some people who have game and I'm like of Guy Fieri. Tomorrow you're going to text me and be like, I'm going to think of it afterwards. But there are some people who have game and I'm like, Guy Fieri has game. Damn. I never thought about that. But now I'm not going to stop thinking about it. He gives like pretzel machines to different high schools to like raise.

Instead of like giving a school $2,000, he buys them a pretzel machine so like at all their like events they can like fundraise. He's very smart about the way he like gives what unquote gives back in terms of like food and in terms of like the things that he clearly loves yeah he's an amazing person so i'm saying if he's like spitting game at a bar yeah i'm picking up i'm going to flavor town well speaking of spitting speaking of spitting it is time oh my I Don't Think So Honey. This is our 60 second segment where we take some time

to enjoy the view. Just kidding. Rail against something in culture that needs it. That needs to be railed. Sort of like all of us. We'll start with us and then we'll go.

Yeah. We'll start with Matt. So I have something that I witnessed in Disney World and I just feel like I have to speak on it. On the last day. On the last day. You know, because I pointed it out and I said, this has to be speak on it. On the last day. On the last day.

You know, because I pointed it out and I said, this has to be my, I don't think so honey, don't let me forget. And I haven't forgotten. I didn't remind you,

but I'm glad you didn't forget. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many times starts now. I don't think so honey, mothers and their sons being too sexual. Like if I see you

standing in line at Disney World and you're looking like a couple and you're a mother and a son, stop. Like stop. Separate. And just literally, we need like that junior prom rule of like between mothers and sons like you need there needs to be two bodies between you so a couple of these mothers and sons i saw like the son would have his hand around his mother's waist and she would have her hands around like

his neck and i'm like mother and son i understand we're like close and like i understand the context of mommy's boy like I get it like I was a mama's boy when I was little and still identify as that but like when you're being romantic with your mother or you're in a position that's romantic it has to stop I also I'm sorry don't love kissing on the mouth

between parents and children I understand this is their own thing but it's just like I'm not ascribing any weird value to it I'm just saying it's just like, the mouth feels like it's for lovers. I think we should save the mouth for lovers and romance and sexuality. Mothers and sons separate.

And that's one minute. I don't think so. It's getting Lucille Buster, mother boy. No, no, no. Matt Rogers does not, Oedipus, not here. No. It's something that just like,

I don't know what it is. It's just like, I feel, and people should express, you know, affection, whatever. I love that. And maybe this is me just responding to, I think as I get older, like being less and less of a tactile person, but I'm just like, I don't know. I see it in some situations and I'm like, that's your son. I think we don't need to be touching like the small of his back.

No. Oh no, stop. This is weird. I be touching like the small of his back. No. Oh, no. Stop. This is weird. I know. And I noticed it several times. No. And talk about another challenge of dating straight men.

They love their mommy and everyone's looking for mommy and mother. Yeah. A mom they can cheat on. That's what they're looking for. I really, I really like when a parental relationship is too close. I get the heebie-jeebies. Yeah, heebie-jeebies. Heebie-jeebies.

Yeah, the kiss on the mouth will lose me every time. Yeah. I don't understand that. Real chiller. Real chiller. What about like people who would like tell their parents like, oh, I just had sex last like, like. No.

Like, you know what I mean? Like even in high school, people would drink with their parents. Like, oh, the cool mom. Yuck. Yeah. I feel like when we were younger too, like probably when we were all in high school or middle school and stuff like that like was really a thing that felt very taboo now i feel like there's a different wave of parenting or maybe people have always been like this but it feels more common now where it's just like

it's more open we talk about sexuality more i'm establishing at a very young age but even that has to be a boundary with that. Like, and of course, like, as a parent, like, you know, if you're normalizing sexuality, I do think that's great. And I think that we shouldn't be having the shame that we probably all grew up with. And, like, probably as our generation and ones before us are still dealing with, like, the shame around sex. But it just, I crossed a line. I crossed a line at like y'all embracing in this way where it's like, you know, bodies fully facing each other. Like, I don't know. In the lobby, we checked out of the hotel that day. It was the son had his arms up around the mom's shoulders.

How old? He was 13. It was tough. It was tough. I read it the same way. Yeah. Right. And it's like, I guess that has to be a weird transition right

from like you're the mother of this child you like obviously clean the baby like you know you're holding the baby you're rearing the baby you're like obsessed

with the baby but that's a baby but then like as it gets older it's just like I don't know I guess it's weird once he's old enough to get a boner

you gotta step back yeah there has to be something has to change. Yes. Just something I noticed. Bowen Yang, do you have it on to think so, honey? I do.

And it is a little self-indulgent, but I have to say this because it really, really bothered me. I don't think so, honey. Matt Roach. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I know, right?

I think you've done me before. I have, I have. All right, well, this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. It's time to start now. I don't think so, honey. Peacock, you know I love you, done me before. I have. I have. All right. Well, this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. It's time to start now. I Don't Think So Honey. Peacock, you know I love you, Peacock.

But Peacock on May 1st, the first day of AAPI Heritage Month, put me front and center on their AAPI Voices collection or whatever next to Crystal Kung Minkoff in The Rock. And then I found out and people are sending me photos all day.

Like, look, look. I'm like, oh, that's so nice. Then I find out that there is sending me photos all day like look look I'm like oh that's so nice then I find out that there is a Bowen Yang collection on people that features you know my sketches or whatever that I'm like I had no input I had no input in what was featured in this and not that they had to like consult

me but I go I don't want I don't want people seeing that sketch and it's the thing where I'm like you know not all sketches are going to be hits you're going to get some duds no matter who you are no matter what time period you were on in the thing where I'm like, you know, not all sketches are going to be hits. You're going to get some duds no matter who you are, no matter what time period you were on in the show. But I don't want,

and there's some sketches that I'm like, why is that above the fold? Why is that in this row or that row? And I go, aye, aye, aye. Five seconds.

Bowen Yang Collection sounds like a bad Kohl's clothing line for gay boys. I don't, I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. First of all,

I love the Bowen Yang collection, but I do understand. I love Peacock and everyone over at NBC knows that I'm a company man. I will keep for Peacock hard, but the Bowen Yang collection did shock me. Watch Tar on it. Stream Tar on Peacock. It's real good. Number one, but I will say

I did go on Peacock last night to watch Vanderpump. Your face popped up immediately. You were the first thing I saw. It's so jarring sometimes where I'm like, oh, there's him right away. And we've been talking, at least four different conversations this past week, I've been like, Peacock's my number one streamer.

Peacock's the streamer I use the most. I watched She Said on it the other day. Oh yeah, it has She Said. It has She Said. But you know, how else do we celebrate AAPI Heritage Month? But I'm saying there are no other asians on the network on bravo on like you are one of the most prominent ones yeah but also me and crystal khan what's the front center for the first time ever yeah we're oh let's actually put the light on crystal khan minkoff for once yeah and i'm like do it literally on the show yeah how about that well that means kyle has to

let her talk first yeah but second of all it's like how else are they going to celebrate AAPI Heritage Month without giving an Asian person I know

any consent or any agency no listen it's not actually an issue but it does just make me feel because the same thing I put on Peacock last night and I was like

oh my god and you were like there's me I was like no I want a heads up an email that's like, hey, by the way, you're going to be the face of Peacock tomorrow. And also we're doing a Bow and Yang collection.

Not unreasonable. Not unreasonable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. An email and then be like, do you? And it's like, oh, I would love these sketches. I don't even have to. I just, I would have loved like a little approval. I will say though, pretty cool to have a collection.

Yeah. Not for nothing. But like you basically, you basically could have one of those DVDs. Oh. Like the best of Amy Poehler DVD, which is my favorite DVD that I ever had.

I had that DVD. The best of Amy Poehler, the best of Amy Poehler DVD was like, formative. Yeah. I used to wear that out. It's giving like,

oh God, it's May, let's cobble something together. No, it's not though, because you do have a lot of stuff

and I'm saying like, as someone who's been there what, four years? Four seasons on camera Yeah so that's like You got a collection girl You got a collection Flex on us

I will say I did not mean for that That was not a flex No no no That's your life though That is your I mean that's the reality Is that like people

Are gonna Oh diversity Listen As someone who went to college And every time I was in the cafeteria, I'd get this campus photographer and be like, get in that picture. You know what I mean?

Hold the tray. Yeah, hold the tray smiling. It's like, yeah, we get it. You know, it's truly like the diversity campus photographer of the industry is all these months. My 13-year-old son and I wore matching Bowen Young Collection to Orlando.

And then you made out. And then it was so horny. It was very horny. Well, the thing about mothers and their sons is like, then you're dating these guys. These guys don't know

how to wipe their own ass because mommy did it for them. That's like literally what I'm saying. So whatever. Yeah, so Bowen Collection. Or they have weird sex things because they were too close

with their mom. Too close with their mom? Every time they they fuck a woman it's their mom and they get in their head and then oh well you know let me tell you i mean that's the real truth well that's how millie's with six two guys and somehow every time i wake up i'm big spoon i'm like how am i big spoon again and it's like these guys want mommy. They want mommy. They look at me, they're like, mama. Imagine being big spoon.

Oh God. Every time, like I attract a small spoon energy, which is fine, but I don't want to be big spoon every time. No, no, no. Do you feel it's because you have a big spoon personality

or are they misinterpreting? Both. Yeah. Both. I don't know. You have big spoon personality, but it doesn't mean you want to be a big spoon all the time no let's change it up

we contain multitudes everyone has a big spoon and a little spoon inside of them yes and with that profound comment I'm ready to hear you elaborate and be even more profound with Elyse your I don't think so honey are you ready? I mean a competitor

in the past Elyse Morales this is your I mean, a competitor in the past. Elise Morales, this is your I Don't Think So Honey. Our time starts now. Okay, and I think this is important to say on the eve of the writer's strike. I don't think so honey spelling and grammar. Listen, there are so many words. So many.

And I am supposed to know how to spell all of them and also the little symbols that go in between. I don't think so. I don't think so honey. i believe i believe it was matt rogers who once said i may not know my words but i do know my heart and if you can understand what i am saying let's move on okay if you know what i have said if you know what i am typing, we can move forward. We're understanding each other. And as an addendum to that, if you are a person who cares about someone using the word literally, when they actually mean figuratively, okay, I want you to take that thought. I want you to hold it.

I don't want you to choke on it. Just stop. Just fucking stop. It's a figure of speech. The word has evolved. The word has evolved. And that is one minute. And thank you for saying it. And I also want to say that

in addition to that, we've had two people on this podcast do I don't think so honey when people say the word like a lot. Matt and I freeze. It's so chilly. We're just like, oh, wow.

Misogynist. Who cares? Homophobic. Groundbreaking. Who cares? One time this girl was like, I sat one time and counted how many times you said like, and it was like 100 times in like five minutes.

Fuck you. Every language has filler words. Yeah. And it's part of the human brain operates in a way where we have to take breaks in between our words as we express them. That's just how it happens. And filler words, when you're used to being interrupted a lot, you use more filler words. That's why women, queer people use it like a lot.

Young girls. Young girls. I know. Yeah. But anyway, spelling and grammar. First of all, dating apps, when people are like, I like people who look there, there, and there. Or like they know the difference. people are like, I like people who look there, there, and there. They know the difference. It's like, fuck you.

It's just superiority. I have always said, elitism, superiority, the idea that you are better than someone else. There is no more unattractive quality than those things. Superiority is the least attractive, least fun thing to me I will put myself on blast you can grow out of that because I used to be someone who was like

you're not using literally right but when I was like I'm sorry 19 when that was a hierarchy when there was a hierarchy when the thing you had control over was like oh the way you write words who cares I'm texting lowercase.

I'm not putting spaces between my emojis or afterwards and before an emoji. There are no rules anymore. Let me tell you something, too. As a bitch with acrylics, I'm going to spell shit. It's going to be all over the fucking place. There's going to be typos. You know, and he's the producer. The producer knows because you look like you pull some bad bitches.

And let me tell you, bad bitches with acrylics are not going to spell things correctly. And it's not because we don't know. No. It's because the fucking nails. You got to navigate. My nails, my fat fingers, bitch. You know the first three letters of the word. You fucking know what the fuck I'm going to say.

Don't try to come here. Exactly. And that is exactly what i wanted to communicate exactly wow bitch wow bitch now on that note it's time for millie's i don't think so yeah let's go millie tamaris i don't think so honey for time starts now i don't think so honey sliding into my dms asking me for favors and you don't even follow me you don't even like what happened to hello hi I love you I loved you on blank you know what

we all can agree that grooming is wrong but you know if you want me to do something for you you better groom me bitch four or five weeks you better have

liked everything on my fucking you better have bought a ticket to all the shows that are about coming up before you come into my DMs

I have two non-profits that help people of color get careers in marketing and entertainment you better have donated before you come into my dms talking about oh put me on or this and that who the fuck are you who the fuck am i you're spelling our names right because me and elise you spell my name wrong in the DM. And you're asking me for a fucking thing. Who the fuck are you? Like my shit. Gas me up, please. Before you come through and try to ask me for some shit.

Okay. That is just tact. Okay. And that's one minute. Because guess what? Not everything is transactional. But if I don't know you, then it kind of has to be. What is my benefit on helping you out?

You want me to get you a job? Dog, who the fuck are you? And then I look at your profile. You're not even following me. You're sending me a DM or an email being like, hey, can you help me get a job at this one place that basically only hired you because you're a diversity hire? And then it's just like, oh, you don't even follow me.

I know. Do you guys have those people that come in and like your photos but don't follow you like there's one person there's one person who keeps returning to my profile to like photos or like and I see it because the person is verified and an actor that I know

but doesn't follow me and I'm just like what I will tell you and it's just like for me I'll tell everyone but my thing is just like why wouldn't you just follow it's like a weird power move that's not really a power move it's a mind game situation but Millie knows that I

get all the time people emailing me DMing me asking me for shit and they spell Elise wrong. People spell Millie I-E. And they spell Elise wrong. And it's right fucking there. And I've said on my close friend's story,

the only misspelling of my name that I will accept is slide because that's what it auto-corrects to. That's milky for me. I know that was a mistake. Slide, milky. Milky and slide? Maybe that's the title of it. That's the title of that.

Milky and Slide. Milky and Slide. Oh, my God. Wait, that's actually really hot. Yeah. Milky and Slide? That's our production company. And honestly, the only one that I don't even call out is the Russian lady that does my laser hair removal because she has all the power.

There you go. Talk about money. I mean, mother. But exactly. No, spell my name wrong about mother mother listen irina she she's mother she's mother and she's seen my booty hole yeah you know what i'm talking about showing hole you talk about showing hole first of all that's a dangerous hole and let me tell you first time i was laser hair removal completely open i'm like like this pussy price gone up this pussy price gone up you know what I mean

but anyway the real estate how painful we'll talk about it the pussy must be painful no well she ices it so no but

I love that she's mother for that she's mother for that she's money talk about money she ices my pussy before so if she calls me milky fine

you bitch I don't fucking know you and you don't follow my there's a there's a whole other thing about peers I'm talking about industry peers i don't fucking know you and you don't follow my there's a there's a whole other thing about peers i'm talking about industry peers who don't follow you back and then they do the like shit it's like okay fuck off but it's just like if you're asking me for a favor asking me to put you on or asking me blah blah you want me to get coffee this one guy's like can we get

coffee and talk about things and i'm like sure because he was a friend of a friend. Doesn't follow you. He's like, doesn't follow me. No, listen to this. He's like, come to Astoria. And I'm like, Astoria? I'll go there once a year when I have sad sex. Like, not because, when I call the ex back. Not to fucking get coffee with you when you're asking me to get coffee. The follow and the follow back, that's like the handshake.

Yes. That is like this weird formality. It's weird that follow back, that's like the handshake. That is like this weird formality. It's weird that it exists and that it's part of it, but it is like unfortunately the way you like initiate that kind of conversation. Well, you know what's funny is like we just brought up like the Beverly Hills housewives. Remember,

they're constantly obsessed with who's unfollowing and following. And guess what? Crystal doesn't follow me. So therefore I'm like well, why is she next to you in the AAPI voices? Why is she tagging me? Why is she DMing? Exactly.

You need to follow her. She's like seeing my stories and stuff. Uh-uh, Crystal. She doesn't have to. She doesn't have to, but she does. The seeing of the story

but not following is a power move. And I'm just like, don't you know we could be more powerful together? It's very wicked. It's unlimited if you follow me back

together think of all we could do well dreams we could be the greatest team that's ever been but people don't want that but people again you're talking about competition they get scared they don't like to follow you guess what Elphaba and Glinda were so much better as sisters

than they were as enemies and it's a rule of culture number six Elphaba and Glinda were so much better as sisters than they were as enemies. And it's a rule of culture number six. Elphaba and Glinda were so much better as sisters than they were as enemies. And when Elphaba and Glinda started following each other, that's when I was ready to follow them. Well, and you know, some say they only follow God, but no, not here. No. Not here. You know what? And I won't get petty.

Like, if I really do believe that we are peers, you play that shit, I'll call it out. I'll be like, you know what and I won't get petty like if I really do believe that we are peers you play that shit I'll call it out I'll be like do you call it out ask Jared Goldstein if I call it out I'll ask Jared Goldstein we were at somebody's birthday well cause I saw you know we did

a show together three years before you know whatever he's really nice we're gonna have him on to respond exactly no but I you know this and. He's really nice. We're going to have him on to respond. Exactly. No, but I, you know, this and that, we were kiki. And then follow this motherfucker did not follow me back. And I was like, okay, motherfucker. Three years later at J. Cornell's birthday, I was like, he talked about Instagram.

I'm like, oh, that's funny. You brought up Instagram because you don't follow me back. You didn't follow me back. And then he's like, and I'm like, listen listen I really do feel like we're peers we have a lot of the same friends we're doing the same shit okay let's get the follow back

let's get the follow back let's get the follow back and it was three years I know whatever but I'm like three years ago you could have followed me back to Jared

also it's just like the thing too I think that people get a little obsessed with when they get a little bit bigger followers like their ratio or whatever it's like the thing of like I get it I get a little obsessed with when they get a little bit bigger followers like their ratio I get it

it's also just like that doesn't matter but if you do think that matters then maybe you need to check that I can understand a ratio of photos of posts sometimes I'm like let me clear some of these pictures I love the archive feature love archive

I don't even know about it I love looking back and being like what was I doing Well but that's what archive is good for Because you can look at your own archive But the public doesn't know The public does not have So I do archive You know why because I look back and I'm like oh yeah

Because before Instagram stories We were using Instagram grid as Instagram stories Like I'm here today blah blah but this is what I'm saying though about the people that ask me for favors there are some honestly I call them the ukulele white girls like the white girls who do musical comedy with ukuleles yep so they'll follow me they'll follow me just ukulele white girl and I'm telling you like there's at least 40 of them will follow me

and I'm like oh I feel like I might have met her once at pit 10 years ago let me follow her back they immediately unfollow me

and I'm like uh uh that has happened so many times I'm like uh uh not you ukulele white girl with 200 followers who the fuck

do you think you are me but that's what I'm saying ukulele white girl there's a lot you know who I'm you know what I'm talking about I do you know what are? Me? But that's what I'm saying. Yooka-Laylee White Girl. There's a lot. You know who I'm you know what I'm talking about. I do. You know what I'm talking about. Anyway. Well, we're gonna have Jared Goldstein on. I mean, so in response to this

No, he did really well and then he did follow me, but I brought him up because that was a good example. Because you know he's a sweetheart and you know it was an oversight. Yes. You felt comfortable bringing it up. And I feel comfortable calling this a landmark ep. This has been incredible. Follow Slide and Milky.

Milky and Slide. Milky and Slide host Betches Sub. We talk to politicians. We're talking about abortion. We're doing a lot of shit on that thing. But it's the way in for me. It's like, oh, let me understand this in a way

that my friends would talk about let me understand this finally well we love you so much thank you guys for coming on thanks for having us we love you we love you back I mean this is just the beginning I've been so excited I know and you know what I realized I was like the way I've known you for like 13 years

I know a long ass time I remember like when I went to like UD for like. For the improv festival. An improv festival. This was like 2009. I know. Wow.

So funny. I know. So it's deep. And then for seven years ago, which is probably half that time, for you to come on here and say Harry Potter. Wow. And for you to come on here today and denounce. That is the growth. Yes. Wow. And for you to come on here today and denounce, that is the growth. Yes.

Exactly. From an Elise in improv who did not know what was coming to Elise in Lost Couch seven years ago who said Harry Potter writes to now Elise saying, no, I'm done.

No, Harry Potter. That's evolution. That's regression. JK could never. Yes. And then meanwhile, fucking Bellatrix Lestrange and Voldemort fucking Helena

and Rafe are the ones who are caping for Joanne. You're like, wait a minute. Are they really? They're the ones who are like, stand by her. I'm not surprised. Helena was Miss Johnny Depp

and also Helena. Tim Burton's a little problematic, but you know, whatever. But it's the villains. Exactly. Luna Lovegood did it too. Luna. But you know,

she's looking a little... Luna Mays will be a villain. Yeah, but she's looking a little like she don't vaccinate and don't like... You know what I'm saying? Wait, can I say something? Luna Lovegood sucks.

I don't like Luna Lovegood. I've never liked Luna Lovegood. Not to like actually talk about the concept of her. Conspiracy theorist. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Conspiracy theorist. Misinformation. It's giving libertarian. Misinformation. Yep, yep, yep. It's giving libertarian and guess what? Actually, it's a rule of culture.

All Ravenclaws were libertarian. It's a rule of culture number 33. All Ravenclaws were libertarian it's rule of culture number 33 all Ravenclaws were libertarian but you know it's a genre of white like

when they're talking about like white people don't wash their legs I don't believe that but Luna Lovegood type people they don't they don't wash their legs

well now you sound like Luna that's weird I have to go to therapy we end every episode with a song unlimited together we're unlimited together we'll be go to therapy. We end every episode with a song. Unlimited.

Together we're unlimited. Together we'll be the greatest team that's ever been. Glinda dreams the way we planned them. If we weren't in tandem. If you want to hear more about that, you can listen to the Wicked

original Broadway cast. You can go on YouTube and YouTube in Wicked Defying cast. You can go on YouTube and YouTube in Wicked Defying Gravity. Live tutorial. Yeah. All right. Bye. Bye. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, five-year-old

Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died

trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Sheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby.

And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13

to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.