Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Misinformation Is So Dangerous..." (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

Matt and Bow: A Tale of Two Coasts! The boys connect while socially distancing due to Covid-19 and discuss this new (but temporary!) normal, as well as the habits they've developed in isolation. They touch base on the culture that's gone down over the past month including the Real Housewives of New York premiere (as well as the LEAH of it all), Dua Lipa's new album Future Nostalgia and Gaga's Chromatica delay. Both the boys reveal their new TV binge obsessions while in quar (Survivor for Matt, The Leftovers for Bowen) and also talk all things Quibi! Matt's new show Gayme Show! is out now on that platform, and you can check it out now. And...against all odds...the boys literally almost forget to talk about Tiger King, but not to fear, they touch on it! So if you were hungry for more Carole Baskin takes? We got you, bitch. Stay safe and stay inside and...give the pod a 5 star review. See? Not everything's changed. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, friends. I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. Big or small, we're there. And now here we are opening up the friendship circle to you.

Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Okay. So we're going to find out later if that sounded bad or good. You know what? I think Doug is going to make it work. Y'all, we are just rigging this with the Zoom and the Zencaster. This is some new ground, we have to say. Here's the thing, you guys. We are actually forced by our international situation to record remotely.

And we're forced into that you pick two where it's unfortunately just going to be me and bowen across the country for a little while yes for maybe a lot of while well that's okay i don't okay so what is the consensus now so let's just speak its name it's voldemort name the coronavirus has i think become something bigger than any of us expected. I always kind of look to you, Bowen, to tell me what's going to happen. I'm not an authority on this. But you being the doctor

of the two of us, because you're the doctor and I'm, of course, famously, say it with me, the hunter. Patient. The patient. The hunter. I felt like I was asking you about the coronavirus early on and you were like, even you were of the impression

that it wasn't going to be cuckoo cuckoo. I did not couple it with the fact that our nation is bungling this so much. Yeah, I think that's really the kicker, isn't it? It's that we're not handling it well. I mean, you could have contact traced back in February, back when we did have 15 cases, when Trump was like, we only have 15 cases.

And you could have like... I don't know. But again, I'm not the authority on this. So do not look to me in times of crisis. It's just that you are my smartest friend. Oh, that's not true. We know Sooty Green.

That's true. And you're famously friends with the John Lovett now. Yes. Well, he was on the show game show and he is. Congratulations. First of all, we have to.

What? Statistically what? He's statistically the smartest person. He's statistically the smartest gay person. Gay person. No, he's a fool when you put him up against the smart straights. A real fool. Well, we have to first

congratulate Matt Rogers and Dave Mazzoni on the release of Game Show. Today's the launch day of Quibi. We're recording this April 6th. Yeah, and this will come out on April 8th. And so it'll be out for a couple days now, and there's new episodes coming out every day so right now as you listen to this there's a new episode of game show and um yeah it's been really really

fun to see it released a little weird to have it released during this time and it's definitely been like a sort of uh i don't even know how to describe it like you want to get behind it and promote it as much as you can but also i'm so conscious of the fact that it's such a weird time and it's like a weird time to be celebrating something, but I also think people need a distraction and need a little fun. I think people are really embracing it because, not because of the time that we're in, but because it just feels, I't know it's it's it's fun it's frivolous without

uh uh making light of the situation i don't know yeah i mean who even knows what's right to um be hashtag promoting saying doing at this time i feel like it's been such a weird uh moment because i'm truly like even if people are acting insane i'm kind of just like yeah but it's been such a weird uh moment because i'm truly like even if people are acting insane i'm kind of just like yeah but it's this time and i'm not judging anyone for any behaviors i'm not begrudging anybody for their behavior either you post whatever you want i am here for i support you um that's yeah that that's that that's the standard that we're all living in. And what? Some of us are even showing our body.

You did. You showed your body. Even me. You did. Even me, I did. You really did. And I remember I looked at that picture and I said, Oh my God.

What did you think? I thought you looked amazing and I gotta say, you were keeping it tight and right and also you look big in your traps. But you know what it is? Body fusion! My diet is regulated now. I'm not ordering fucking two

Big Macs on Uber Eats at two in the morning anymore. You know what I'm saying? fucking two Big Macs on Uber Eats at like two in the morning anymore. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's interesting. I think it's mostly a diet thing for me. And I'm just like doing little resistance band bullshit. I have to say that's interesting and actually very opposite of me. Because yesterday, the best thing that happened to me all day was that I got a confirmation from postmates that my taco bell would be arriving

early so that's like unfortunately where i am with my body and my physicality and your physicality how often are you ordering from postmates oh often i'm not gonna berate you i'm not gonna berate you okay no i mean and that's the thing like, who can berate me in this time? Although I can berate myself. I can tell you that right now. Well, it's really just like when this first went down and I went to the grocery store, this was like literally over three weeks ago. Now I went to the grocery store and I was like, okay, let me get stuff for two weeks because I genuinely thought that's what I would need. And I successfully did that like i got stuff for two weeks but now it's at that weird place where everything that's left over is not necessarily

the healthiest stuff um so i am kind of like eating a lot of like frozen pizzas and pasta right now but also i haven't been too afraid of ordering like you know i i'm still ordering and the way i'm justifying it is like I want to support the restaurants you know what I mean yeah yeah obviously not Taco Bell Taco Bell's really struggling yeah yeah they're actually I had to support my local Mexican joint

Taco Boost no but like I have been like restaurants that I like I have been ordering from and just saying like well right now i'm i'm able to order out and so why not support the restaurants obviously not taco bell that was just a weak moment last night while i was stoned watching survivor which i'll get into yeah you are going to use your powers of persuasion in this hour plus uh to convince

me to watch Survivor. You kind of sold it to me yesterday on FaceTime. What is your history with the show? I told you, I have not seen a single season. That to me actually is an exciting opportunity. Okay. Because I think that you actually would enjoy it so much because it is a game of the wits. It is a social game. It is also

a horny show because Bowen and I are two sorry about it gay men hashtag at the end and we gay men hashtag and we love hot guys and let me tell you something

there are a lot of hot guys in Survivor and they are jumping around. You see their pants fall off during challenges. They're jumping around. They're jumping around, jumping, jumping, doing all sorts of that. And it's actually rule of culture number 13. Survivor is the horniest show on television.

Can you say it with me? Yeah. Survivor is the horniest show on television. Survivor is the horniest show on television. Okay. We should just put out there for the duration of the time that we're going to record through, that we record remotely, we're not going to be fully synced up

on the rules of culture. Let's just say that. Can we just put that out there? Can we just say that? Can you just give us the space to say that? Thank you. But see, my concern now is I... If I want to watch hot guys do stuff,

I have other outlets. Like, back when I was, like, 11 years old, Survivor probably was the only place to see that kind of thing. But now it's like, well, that's... The novelty is lost on me of watching straight guys, mostly straight guys do island challenges actually on one season i'm i think it was uh cambodia or something no no i'll

tell you which one it was it was the race war season where they split the tribes oh cook islands they split the tribes up into four races there was like it was literally like black people white people latinx people and asian americans and it was like the four different tribes and by i won't say let's just say i won't say who won but it was not a white person um parv i will not confirm or deny yeah i also have not talking apart to me well parvati shallow is actually the name of this contestant who is an iconic if you are if you readers out there are fans of survivor you know parvati and you have to understand that me as a result of me doing the best thing i've ever done for myself which is to get very involved with and obsessed with survivor have become quite acquainted with parvati and actually

the first four seasons that i watched no first three seasons that i watched were all parvati seasons and i've become very obsessed with her and i've followed her to her outside of survivor content where i found out that she is a life coach in venice beach and now my boyfriend jared wants to take her teachings what kind of do you know what kind of like life coaching she does is that she does a lot of like mantras like she's very into yoga she's essentially like a white girl yogi but but like

but like very powerful like she actually like is she white or is she Indian see she's white she's like a she's like a white girl with the name parvati oh cool and what do we think about that um that's fine i mean did she give herself that name either way no way no how i think she just had a dad that was like into spirituality sure sure like just missed like wild wild country like like they had just shut down and he was like oh fuck i wanted

to move to the northwest for that i think probably that and well anyway he gave birth to a daughter that well he didn't give birth but you know he was part of the birth of a daughter who would eventually one day become a real force of good on survivor and I love Parvati because she flirts and that's how she wins or at least that's how she did it when she was like young and hot and now she's 40 with two kids and we're finding out now how she's doing on the current season which is called Winners at War

which is all the winners or 20 winners I just think you would like it yeah I have no reason I don't know why I've put it off for so long I just think you would like it. Yeah, I have no reason. I don't know why I've put it off for so long. Are you finding yourself a little maxed out, though, like media diet-wise and all this? I feel like I can only handle so much right now.

I think, actually, it's better for me and easier for me to just put one thing on and let it go. Oh, yeah. I would rather, like, even the other day jared was over so my my quarantine experience has been i spend half my time here at my apartment and then i spend half the time over at uh my boyfriend jared's and we just get right in the car and we're the only two people that we see but it is nice to have the space to go yes to go from place to place so the other day he was over we were watching

survivor and he was like i don't think i want to watch survivor anymore and i was like well unfortunately that means you have to go wow so you you made him leave i didn't make him leave it was very much time for him to go but um he didn't want to watch survivor anymore and i was like so this is going to be a long sit this quarantine is is gonna be a long time and what i need right now to stay sane because i was i don't know about you but i've been having oh baby violent mood swings with the cabin yeah yeah and i was like i think i'll go absolutely nuts if i can't just sit with this and and like have this on because it's like centering me and making me making the day move because it's such a show where it's like they're on the beach and they're talking about what happened last night

and then the reward challenge and then they talk strategy and then the immunity challenge and they talk strategy and then tribal council and then rinse repeat and that helps me get to the end of the day does that make sense yeah so that's why it's working for me okay um great then i i'm just gonna figure out when i can work in it because right now i have i feel like i'm being assigned a lot of viewing or a lot of consumption i'm not really the only thing i'm assigned to do is um i'm watching season one of the leftovers i've never seen it yeah was that because jared recommended it or was he just no you were watching it he was i told him i told you guys that i was watching it and jared was just excited because everybody says and like this is i know this to be true already but everyone's like

oh just wait until the season one finale and then season two is amazing yeah um did you ever you i remember you were watching it when it was out right i was started to try to watch it i was a huge lost fan and that is also a whole thing whatsoever for me like i just love i think honestly like it is in this situation it's like watching people in a much worse situation than me yeah i get it i get it um like they're talking about like all these things and i'm like well at least it's not that um yeah but uh i was a huge lost fan as you know like lost was actually part of my culture that made me say culture was for me um but i uh the thing about leftovers is in the first season it was really

violent in parts and there's like um i've never had to close my eyes at something ever before. And then the episode I watched where you see Kathy Geist from 30 rock get stoned to death. I was like, I can't do this. I can't watch this. It was literally, um, I had a feeling it was going there.

And then I remember when the episode first came out, everyone was talking about how it was like one of the most shockingly violent episodes of television that had been out in recent memory. And I was like, okay, then I actually can't watch it. I have just, I just have a really tough time watching violence.

Yeah, I get it. I just can't. It really upsets me. It's beyond the violence. It's also, so I'm watching. So Heidi Gardner recommended that we watch a show together because she had

just finished Watchmen and we were both talking. I was, I was telling her how amazing it was and she's like, it's so good, it's so good, it's so well done. And she was like, let's continue this experience. Yeah, and she was like, hey, have you seen The Leftovers ever?

I was like, no, never. And so we are like, let's watch an episode of The Leftovers once a day. Wait, that was a really good Heidi. Hey. Yeah, yeah, hey. You know, that's her stupid little catchphrase. She's always like, hey.

Yeah, she's so stupid. So stupid. But she was like, hey, we should watch one episode a day of The Leftovers. And I was like, okay. And then every day she checks in and we check in with each other. And she's like, hey, I didn't like that.

And like we're so far, and then her husband Zeb too, like we're all texting each other. And like so far we're six episodes in and we're like like this is not good okay so it's just because it's it's it's all setting it's all building up towards the finale I know like

we all know this it's like this is all gonna come together and such a satisfying way from everything we've heard so we're sticking with it well you know by the end of this you can become one of those Carrie Coon fags I love her she's she's fantastic and you're a Carrie Coon fag you made up a Carrie Coon fags. I love her. She's fantastic. And you're a Carrie Coon fag. You made up a Carrie Coon song.

Did I? I can't believe my plane got delayed. Was that a Carrie Coon song? You come from away. I know about my song, I come from away, but what does that have to do with Carrie Coon? She was in Come From Away. I don't think she was, bitch.

I think she was. I'm looking it up. I'm looking it up. You go ahead and look this up. I don't think she was bitch i think she was i'm looking at i'm looking it up you go ahead and look this up i don't think that's true but um i think carrie coon has a army of gays joel kim booster included was she in come from away i did not know that culture i'm looking it up well that's good wait yeah you're wrong. Misinformation is really dangerous. Somehow, a conversation around Carrie Coon transitioned into Come From Away and... No, you know what? Misinformation is so dangerous and it's actually

frontrunner for title of ep. Misinformation is so dangerous. Wait, she was in... No, bitch! You are so wrong and I'm not gonna have you click click click away while you're supposed to be actively engaged with me here on this podcast i'm engaged with you i thought we talked about come from away okay maybe we have to cut this all out because no

we don't you always are suggesting because of your foibles that we cut things out foibler i am not often suggesting you're hyperbolizing well anyway, anyway, this is why I want you to get into Survivor so bad. Because there's actually two people from Survivor that I would like to have on the pod. Yeah, who are they? One is Parvati Shallow. Literally, no, I'd rather get Kathy Geist in the leftovers than have Elizabeth Hasselbeck on this show.

Geist me, daddy. But I want to have Parvati, obviously, because she is the queen, and I actually want her to be my life coach on an episode. And another iconic reality show villain from Survivor. Do you know about Miss Gerry Manthe? No, I don't. Tell me. Okay, so this is why the first season that you need to watch from Survivor. Do you know about Miss Jerry Manthe? No, I don't. Tell me.

Okay, so this is why the first season that you need to watch is season two, Australian Outback, which is the one that had Elizabeth Falarski, now Hasselbeck. So you can get her origin story and also understand that Jerry Manthe was the original reality TV,

competitive reality TV villainess. She was called the Black Widow. Oh reality TV villainess. She was, she was called the black widow. Oh, was she black? She was not. God bless. Thank God. I was like,

Oh, wait a minute. Is this going to be, is this no, no, no tough. Yeah, it was not racialized.

It was merely because she flirted with men and like seemed to manipulate them into alliances, I think. But I would like for you to watch, truly do whatever you want, and I don't want to assign you more homework, but I'm just saying in the long term, I would like to have these ladies on the pod at some time because I would like to sit across from them at a table

and just talk about how they were such incredible, iconic women in reality television. A blind spot for us sometimes. Sometimes, absolutely. Now, what else are you you so then what's after i mean you kind of have a giant repository of survivor to get through you could conceivably spend it you could spend the next you could spend the next 18 months just watching survivor literally well guy bradham did that like guy bradham i i forget why he did this but he actually inspired me to do this because he

was off from work or something or like I think he had like a space where he wasn't working at some point where he said he watched the entirety of Survivor literally season one to season whatever it was all in one straight shot and that's why he's

so obsessed with it so I was like okay it can be done and I'm telling you on average i finish a season in three days so it's like 40 seasons now they're on their 40th season and the 40th season is called winners at war it brings back 20 iconic winners of the show and um one of them who has won twice miss sandra diaz Twine. And she has won twice. 40 divided by 3 is 13 point something. 13.3. You could in

two weeks. You gotta spread it out, Matt. You can't burn through all of Survivor in two weeks. Well, now I have all these quick bites to watch. Oh my god. Now, I saw the beginnings of Nikki Fresh which I thought was great I like Jared Freider

Jared Goldstein Jared's mixed up but Jared Goldstein yes our friend he plays Nikki's Nikki's Nikki Fresh Nicole Richie's assistant on the show shout out to Iron Madison the third who wrote on the show and Jax Media who produced the show.

But that is really funny and I really enjoy Nikki Fresh. It stars Nicole Richie as a conscious trap rapper. So she's a health conscious and earth conscious Nicole Richie who wants to start doing trap music about health conscious things. For moms and gays. Which I really like that line. And she's so funny. She's so funny.

She's always been so fucking funny. Literally always so funny. Did you ever watch Great News? I never. I didn't, but I heard she was great in it. I heard everybody was great in it. I heard it's actually, well, not actually really funny.

Obviously, it's really funny. I just don't sorry sorry just don't watch a lot of network television sorry everyone but I have heard that she is unbelievable on it which did not surprise me at all and she's really funny on this show

and Jared's great and I'm happy for him and so you watch a little bit of that anything else did you peek in on I started the Sophie Turner thing and I just was like I can't and um so you watched a little bit of that anything else did you peek in on um i started the sophie turner thing and i just was like i can't it was three in the morning i was like i can't watch this it was truly late last night when i started watching it and i did think i'm of two minds about the sophie turner thing and i will be honest about it despite being in the quibi family

i must be honest as a country stuff okay so i think it's actually a really interesting premise because the premise of survive is she is a girl with suicidal ideation who has post-traumatic stress disorder and she's finally leaving like the um the group that she's in the home that she's in for people that have mental illnesses that are her age and she's leaving and she's gonna get on a plane and go home and her plan is that she's finally going to take her own life on the plane ride home so then the plane crashes and her survival instincts kick in and you realize she actually wants to live so that to me is actually interesting concept i think that she's really talented and it looked really good to me but my thing about it is i have a problem

whenever anyone as beautiful and as much of a star and as like you know uh aspirational as sophie turner is like suicide you know like and and i i so i'm only one episode in and i want to keep watching it but i just do i have like instincts kick in whenever anyone is using uh the concept or theme of suicide as entertainment i get very weird and i really think you really have to walk on eggshells to get this right because people are very easily influenced and someone like sophie turner huge deal um you know but i i have a lot of faith that it'll make a comment on it um but yeah you get what i'm saying i totally get what you're saying because that's kind of what your issue was with we don't have to rehash this but that's kind of what your issue was with 13 reasons 13

reasons why absolutely i mean i actually think that very very very very few pieces of media do suicide correctly. It's just, it's really tough. But like I said, this is a take on survival instinct, and I think it could be really good, and it looked good to me, and I think that she's really talented. The premise is very interesting, yeah. Very strong premise. I want to say it's just

very smartly created tension. Whatever. I'm not Hannah Gadsby. No, you're actually not. You're not Hannah Gadsby at all. Well, I never pretended to be her. No, you actually were pretending to be her for six months. And I said

take off that drag. You're Bowen. And then you booked the biggest job of your life. Yeah, you're right. And before that, you had been talking like this. You've been walking around like this. Doing honey guts bee. That's wild.

I can't tell if that's good or bad, which is a pretty good place to be. It's literally horrid. No. This is what honey guts bee. This is what it's not like. can't tell if that's good or bad which is which is a pretty good place to be horrid no this is what hannah gets me this is what it's not that's not a bad hannah gadsby but it's definitely not a good hannah gadsby either so i'd love that it's in that weird i think i'm not gonna do comedy i think i'm not gonna do it anymore i think i've had it you're you're doing like liverpool you know i think i've had it you know i think that's enough because these men these men oh my god these men these men i loved loved it and then that which you went these men

wait you want to know some tea yes so. You know how Hannah Gadsby allegedly dated Jill Soloway? Oh, right. Apparently she goes in on Jill Soloway in her next stand-up. That's what I heard. People that were there were like, whoa.

It's kind of an open secret at this point. It's an industry secret that like, Jill is a very particular presence. I truly have no like real, I have nothing to say or nothing to add, but like they did a whole difficult people episode about Julie Klausner wanting to get into like

the lesbian Jewish like cabal of writers and like. And like. the gatekeepers no it's just yeah oh yeah it was basically like all these like lesbian gatekeepers and media and it's like people kind of I think like the conception of Jill Soloway now in 2020 is that like oh fuck

it's Jill Soloway I don't know we love a good celebrity feud and we stan an alleged celebrity monster We love a good celebrity feud. And we stan an alleged celebrity monster. God, I mean, I hope one of us gets to experience that someday. Being a monster or being a part of... Just to be a fabled monster.

A fabled monster. Well, it's going to be you. Because cause I'm gonna be the one starting the rumors or better yet confirming the rumors speaking of rumors we have to talk about the new Lindsay Lohan single oh bitch back to me

back to me is it a bop? I think it is First of all I can't tell It has no The shelf life on this Is gonna be like

72 more hours Before we all forget about it But I think Yeah truly What I love about this song is Literally Before second one

Like she starts singing Immediately As soon as you hit play which I don't know I don't know why that's remarkable to me but it's like she just she just she just goes in right away and it's so funny there's no like ramp up to

like the vocals or anything it's just she sings and it's so it's it's fun you know what I like about it it's very purposeful you know what I mean it's not like it's not like there it it's very purposeful you know what I mean it's not like it's not like there's nothing about the song that doesn't feel like um

you know by accident or like thrown together it's a very purposeful song was very purposefully released and seems like she's really dictating um how she feels whether or not those are uh good ways to feel I don't know I don't know about the lyric I drink too much but that feel. I don't know. I don't know about the lyric. I drink too much, but that's okay. I don't know if that is okay.

I was going to reference that. I think that when she drinks too much, she actually steals kids. But that's not for me. That's not for me to judge, I guess. Beats cute. Wow. That was one year ago. Yeah, it was one year ago. Yeah.

It was recent. Her speaking in an insane accent, stealing kids off. They're attempting to steal kids off the street. And also that insane, um, like, uh, carwash dance or whatever.

I mean, Oh yeah. The carwash dance. I mean, it's our amnesia around her is so fast. And it's so I mean, like you think back on like the first iteration, not even the first like, post Freaky Friday, Lindsay Lohan was like, still like a pretty like, rock solid, like, you're like, Oh, yeah, she goes out and parties a lot, but she's really talented. And that all just deteriorates. But then we want to rebuild her again, and then it all falls apart. And then we rebuild again, and then it falls apart.

It's so... I will say, this is not an effort for us to rebuild her. This is an effort for her to rebuild herself. And I think that she certainly could have come with a weaker song. I mean, the fact of the matter is, the song is pretty good. And I was listening to it, and I was like, alright, this is not the worst song that's come out in the past six months. It's not bad.

I'm not gonna not play this. I just think she's... I still find her to be very... I mean, this is not a cool, edgy, new take, but she's still a very fascinating public figure. Because I watched her old... I watched her old interviews with Oprah where

Oprah really is like, Well, hello! Let's celebrate that! The vultures are waiting to pick your bones. It's just like... Cut the shit. You thought that was the turning point, right? And now it's like she's thinking about drinking

again. It's dark. It's dark. It's really dark. Oh my God. Speaking of drinking again and dark, we have to talk about Roni. Oh, we will talk about Roni. We'll talk about Roni.

What were you going to say? I cut you off with the Oprah stuff. You were going to say something. Oh, because I was thinking about music and I was talking about, I was thinking about Dua. What are you thinking of Dua and her new music? I fucking love Dua and her new music. Yeah, I think it about Dua. What are you thinking of Dua and her new music? I fucking love Dua and her new music.

Yeah, I think it's great too. I feel like it's like a bummer for her that she can't release it at a time where everyone can go out and dance because she was obviously such a targeted dance, like disco album. Yeah, yeah. You know, and obviously Gaga's held Chromatica back,

but you know, someone's got to give the kid something. She secured her place though as like a pop like superstar though like it wasn't fully a given with her first album yeah i think that first i i'm actually gonna give a hot take and think i think the first album overall is stronger as a piece of work but i think this this second album um solidifies her identity more but I think that Physical is maybe her best song she's ever put out. Well, New Rules is New Rules but Physical is amazing.

Physical is incredible and she had a harder job to do on the second album. And they always do. Yeah, it's classic sophomore slump challenge stuff but like she really pulled it off and like it's such a confident pop record that we kind of haven't heard in a while um so i love it i mean don't start now it's amazing cool i've been listening

to every day cool um there's a lot of good music i mean like at least there's a lot of not at least like it was inevitable that's like nothing this is not as a result of the situation we're in but like there's good music coming out fiona apple's coming out with her new album next week and um it's it's waxahatchee's got a great album um it's there's some good stuff and lady g Gaga's going to wait. Lady Gaga's going to wait, which I think is the right move. I think it's the right move, too, because honestly, so much of what this is going to be is like, and so much of what she is is the performance, like you've been saying, the performance of fame around her releases.

So without that, that would be tough. And I think that she obviously had a vision of how this is wants to come out what did you think of the album cover it's not you we were we were talking about how it's not super impactful right it's low impact yeah it's low impact i mean it's very it's visually stunning it looks good it looks very manicured or whatever but like even joanne it's like a very like clean-lined impactful cover like the pink hat it's her profile blue that soft blue background it's like okay like it communicates a lot born this way it communicated a lot art pops cover communicated a lot this is like okay like there's a steampunk element and this actually recalls to me

like the meatloaf album covers of like the late 80s like early 90s like um that out of hell and stuff like that's sort of like right weird like it's like 15 feet away weird thing it's not about her face it's about this like image and it's sort of uh romantic and like almost gothic in a way um and uh i think it's interesting i just i'm used to being i'm i guess i was just expecting it to be like more emotional you're used to be you're used to being walloped by like a gaga cover i think yeah especially because like the last image of her last era was literally her crying face oh sure you're talking about stars born yeah yeah i mean do you remember where you were i remember where i was when she tweeted out the original born this way cover i was in

i was not a huge fan like you you You would remember where you were because you were a Stan Stan fan. I've been in on the... Yeah, I was in on the ground floor with her. And the day she tweeted out the Born This Way album cover of her as the motorcycle, I was so shocked and so giddy. I was like, I can't believe she did this. It was such a stupid wink.

It's such a stupid album cover and she tweeted I designed it myself and Born This Way the word mark is not even centered it looks the letting is crazy the letters are squished together it looks like bad Microsoft

it looked like bad Microsoft Word art but it was all intentional she wanted it to look a certain way and it was impactful and people like fucking lost their minds over it like i don't think people people people don't really have strong opinions on this one is is is what's unfortunate no because i think unfortunately like we we're at the point now where it's like she is not one of the fresh young new viable like no i don't think so but i just think what i'm saying by that is like every every every fan of

hers everyone that's gotten to know her over the past decade because it has been a decade like knows that when her music comes we're gonna enjoy And like, we might go through a phase with it. Like, but I think that we know it's just going to be what it is. Whereas like there felt like there was some sort of unpredictability or rough terrain ahead when she was going to be releasing music like years ago where it felt like some, some,

some, uh, elements of danger. But now that she's proven she has such staying power, I think it does take the element of, um, needing to weigh in with an opinion away. Does that make sense?

Yeah, totally. Totally. She's a fixture now. It's like there's no. Yes. Yeah. It's sort of like if Pink were to release a new song tomorrow, we'd be like, oh, she has a new song.

I'll listen to it in three weeks. Or if you told me she released a new song three weeks ago, I'd been like, oh, really? Cool. You know what I mean? She's just such a fixture. And that's just the way it is. Totally. But I think it might be time for an ad break, Bo. And when we come back,

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to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we're back. Now let's talk about Roni. We actually are back. Okay, so first of all, I want say uh nothing darker than the coming attraction at the end of the episode that was oh no being like don't drink that it's vodka and then luan drinking it

and being like it tasted good pushing her hand away yeah that was really i mean we're in for a rough road and especially with this new girl leah who seems like the cool young version of Luann who Luann is gonna like want to chill with is now here with like a more intense arrest record a fresh not nine years sober now fresh off the wagon like young yeah turning the

party girl I don't know how this season's gonna go for Lou yeah that is Leah's thing right she she was sober for nine years, and then within the last three months before they started taping, she was like, yeah, and then I started drinking again. It's like, whoa, oh, okay. She goes, I was sober for nine years,

I just started drinking again, and the thing about me is when I go out, I really like to black out. I was like, everything about this is insane. She got punched by a cop! Yeah. She goes, I was arrested, so. Like, she actually is my energy, and I may identify with her on a deep level.

No, man, you would not. She got punched in the face by a cop, lost her tooth. The cop knocked her tooth out. Front teeth. Yeah, and then she sued them for $75,000 and used it to start her business married to the mob. She's a little i mean there's

there's there's bits of luan there's bits of bethany and that's not just for wanting yeah there's it's it's a very interesting alchemy of different housewives traits so her also having to google what giovanni meant was so funny and she might be our first true example of chaotic neutral. She's chaotic neutral, but... Or she's, like, chaotic good. I don't know. I don't know if she's chaotic good because she doesn't necessarily come in

with, like, the best super, like, positive energy. Like, I think Bethany... It's not about positivity. Oh, yeah? What is it? Oh, but you're saying Bethany is chaotic good? Well, I don't know. I feel like Bethany may be... I think that Beth saying bethany is chaotic good well i don't know i feel like bethany may be i think that bethany behind the scenes is chaotic evil but like chaotic good is like bethany being who bethany is but also ultimately like saving kids in puerto rico

you know what i mean like that is chaotic yeah her energy is literally insane but ultimately she does good things that's literally the what I believe is the definition of chaotic good. Am I wrong? No, you're right. You're right. Because I was trying to think because the way Leah inserts herself into that fight at the end between Dorinda and Tinsley was very interesting. But also, I mean, I can't discount the fact that this was

her first time hanging with the girls. But, I mean, Dorinda and Tinsley are fighting and then you see Leah kind of like sidling up next to she's like okay I'm here now right I remember and then she's like and then like you hear you see the subtitles and you hear like off

to the side like she goes to Tinsley she goes are you gonna let her talk to you like that did you catch that I didn't are you gonna let her talk to you like that no but i did i did actually watch the end of the episode again because joel had brought up a moment where dorinda looks to leah and like very knowingly goes welcome like because she was like i love that i know who you are and i know what you're about to get into but you don't oh because

I love because wait wait go ahead I was just gonna say there was really weak taglines this year on there like really really bad and like tired and ultimately I was like none of these girls are giving a fuck but then in this in the episode I thought everyone was playing

their games well the episode was good the taglines were weak. I agree. I do just want to say that after Leah is like, you can let her talk to you like that. Dorinda keeps yelling and then Leah screams to Dorinda, why are you being like this?

Which I love. Which I think is, there's some version of chaotic good. Yeah, and you're chaotic good. I feel like there's some aspect of chaotic. She's chaotic neutral, but she leans. She has some aspect of good in her. What she has, which is very powerful, is the ability to make you feel like you're acting crazy.

And because she's like cool, she's going to drive the women nuts. Because every time she's going to do she's gonna drive the women nuts because every time she's gonna she's gonna do the thing of like um okay i don't know what's going on she's gonna drive them crazy because there's nothing these women want more than to feel like that to feel young and viable and cool and vibrant and like and like sort of like um this is gonna sound shady but like sort of like, um, this is going to sound shady, but like, there's like a lot of possibility for them going forward. Yes. Um,

but, and I really feel like because Leah is younger than them and has that cool girl energy and has kind of like been there harder than a lot of these women. Um, I think it's going to be very interesting to watch. Yeah. She's fresh.

She's like, she, very good choice. Very good choice. She is, because I would argue that none of the other housewives are cool except for maybe Dorinda. Tinsley, Sonia, Ramona, Luanne, none of them are cool.

No, Tinsley's not cool. Dorinda's the coolest. No, yeah. No, I feel like Dorinda is, is or was the one who was cool because ultimately she was like, I don't really care. And I'm going to the Berkshires. You know what I mean?

But then she shows her hand when she has too much to drink and she shows actually that she does care. Like she is unbothered, but actually is very bothered. Whereas like Leah might just be unbothered. And that is a, and that's like Erica Jane on Beverly Hills. You know what I mean?

Like that's why she gets under the skin of those women so much is because she's like, they realize like, Oh, this woman like actually doesn't need us. And that drives us nuts. By the way, speaking of bad,

um, taglines for New York, did you see the taglines for Beverly Hills? I heard they were good. They were really good, and I actually want to play them. Okay, please. I think it would be fun to play them and listen to them. All right, so these are the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills taglines

for the upcoming season and I'm needing to around here there's more than just dresses in everyone's closet Kyle the secret to life dance like everyone is watching

I won't settle for anything less than everything life is an audition and, I am getting that far. Gossel. You never know what to expect when I'm expecting. Teddy. Oh, Teddy. Break away?

Not in these heels, honey. Erica. My life may not be a fairy tale, but I'll always get a happy ending. Denise. All right. Oh, Denise gets the last one. Interesting. Denise gets the last one because you know what happens on this season. She fucks Brandi Glanville. Right.

First of all, those are all very good taglines, and there's such a theme of acting or getting the part, and we have to, have to, have to give respect to Miss Tiffany Pollard because for some reason you sent me this video. You unearthed this old clip of one of New York's reality shows

after Flavor of Love and after I Love New York. Where she's like at a casting office. And then a woman walks. Okay, you're New York, right? I'm New York and you're the other girl who does not matter because New York is queen. Exactly. Okay, so I'm this other girl who's just walking out

and she goes, break a leg, guys. What did you say to me? I said, break a leg. No, I'm not going to break a leg. I'm going to get the part. That's what I'm going to do. End scene.

Incredible. I mean, you guys have to look up new york tiffany pollard break a leg she the way she like gets up out of her chair and walks over to this bitch and is like no i'm not gonna break a leg i'm gonna get the part that's what i'm gonna do is because she doesn't understand what break a leg means it's important to reinforce she does not know the expression and then later she's talking to the guy that they're all trying to date or whatever and she's like this girl is crazy she keeps telling me she wants to break my legs and the guy goes okay so break a leg is something that people say when

they want to wish you luck and in theater or in film and tiffany just hangs her head and she's like damn I can't tell which part of that is better the part where she goes um what did you say to me no I'm not gonna break a leg I'm gonna get the part I'm gonna get the part that's what I'm gonna do no I'm not gonna break a leg I'm actually gonna get the part bitch that's so funny

like also the other girl break a leg just the way she was I said break a leg yeah she's also she deserves some credit she's very good too much credit to everyone involved a great scene

a great scene I'm gonna say I'm gonna say dark horse for my favorite tagline might be even I can't believe I'm saying this but Teddy who somehow made it to her third season you never know what to expect when I'm expecting when you're expecting

when I'm expecting yes that's very good that's very good Teddy um I mean what was Denise's? I forgot that one. See, I've already forgotten. But they're good. My life might not be a fairy tale,

but I'll always get a happy ending. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I'm wondering if there's some sort of... That's good. Some sort of masturbation or... Massage. Jack off. Some sort of massage reference there

that I'm not picking up on, but may pick up on when I watch the season. Interesting. Um, and that's, that's reality TV now, baby. I truly,

um, is masturbation references is, is massage references. I don't know. Wow. Um, how's your brain doing? I feel like mine is atrophying by the damn day.

I haven't been myself for literally weeks because I that's another thing is like I'm smoking so much weed here. I mean, there's just nothing else to do. I was just kind of getting into the unhealthy habit of just smoking so, so, so, so, so, so much weed. And it has like slowed me down a little bit just because like i don't know like that's the way i'm dealing with corona is just i wanted to completely numb of myself and that's just the where i'm at and i think it's fine yeah yeah but no yeah i don't feel like as sharp as i usually do um yeah as long as

you're not like fully depending on it no oh my god no watch me intervene yeah be my hero what are your coping mechanisms you've been playing video games a lot once huh you've been playing video games a lot and I wanted to tell you that I tried to

order a Nintendo Switch and they're completely out of stock everywhere yeah because I feel like it was the thing that people were just buying left and right i could have bought one for six hundred dollars decided not to hmm yeah i mean god i'm trying to think of a solution for you you could i but i feel like i feel like you would enjoy it so much see I'm like oh because didn't we make a deal that I would watch survivor if you started to play like animal crossing

yeah but the thing is like it's become an impossibility for me to do that so now I think you just have to watch survivor not to add into something else to your long list but you know well I'm now I'm fucking tempted to send you my damn switch to ship it over to miss los angeles

well so wait can i just before we move on to um more other topics i just want to ask um how long do you think this will go i think once there is a there's an a rapid antibody test that can be brought to scale that can be done from home. And people who have the antibodies can just kind of be relatively calm about going outside and just resuming life as much as possible in terms of opening businesses and stuff. That will be the beginning. And then there's four things that people are looking out for, which is that just testing for the virus

has to be brought to scale too. So that they're expecting, in order to sustain this, in order to make it sustainable that people get tested regularly and with availability, in order to make it sustainable that people get tested regularly and with availability, it's like 750,000 tests a week have to be administered.

And then it's about hospital capacity around the country being like leveled off in terms of every patient who comes in with COVID symptoms is able to get treated and is basically able to, um, worse comes to worse, get a ventilator, um, without any sort of strategizing around like shortages. Um, and then God, the other two things I forget, but it's, it's mostly just about hospital capacity. Okay, stop. Deborah Birx or Fauci? Pick one. Okay. Fauci.

Oh, but Deborah's the lady? Yeah, who wears the iconic sweaters. Deborah... The way Deborah handles Trump is very fun to me. She just completely ignores anything he says. Trump will just say some nonsense and she'll just be like, okay, well anyway,

she just brushes him off very well and does not acknowledge whatever nonsense he's fucking choking on. And so I like that energy a lot. Fauci kind of seems like, what's going on with Fauci? He's very accomplished. He's very capable.

What's your thing with Fauci? I just feel like I want him to like sort of get into it more. I want him to get real. Oh. Well, he's finding out as much as he can.

I want him to turn to Trump and be like, you need to stop. I guess that's my thing with everyone that's up there with him is it's just like but no one just turns to him and says no like I feel like someone that was actually looking out for our well-being like if he were to actually say something really dangerous which he is all the time someone would be right there and be like hi it's important that you know that that's not something to listen to

but I guess the decorum of it all is something we're still doing yeah which is crazy like you're right you're you're absolutely right but then the way that trump would respond to it would be like kicking them off oh well well they they've just humiliated me in front of everybody and so i will murder that like it's it's really stupid what is going on with this lupus medication the malaria medication that like truly so many millions of people yeah need um and he's now creating a frenzy around it that can't be good it's all so bad wait one more thing did you see this insane video

of psycho Ezra Miller grabbing that woman in a chokehold and throwing her on the ground I don't know what this is what a crazy person what can you explain what this is so this girl came over to him I saw that headline and I was like no

well there's video of it and it is harrowing this girl came over and was like fake fighting with him like yeah like like just like kind of like fake like approaching him and he walks up to her and goes you want to fight grabs her by the throat and throws her on the ground and then he had to be

separated from her and like taken away it happened like where was this days ago I think it was in Iceland which makes it all even more insane that is the tea i mean i couldn't believe that what do we think ezra miller always a little suspicious a little suspicious of that one i mean like definitely like darkness behind the eyes but i always thought it was yeah

that's what i'm saying he was part of his charm he was in that movie we need to talk about kevin that like crazy movie about uh tildes whitney as a son who like is actually a serial killer um right right right so i was always like oh maybe it's just that he just has like a dark quality that's um as an actor but yeah he really fucking popped off in this video it was scary to watch it was it was it was sort of it was the sort of thing where i was like oh i wouldn't want to be around that person damn damn damn damn and honestly filled out that um suit in justice league too honestly we have to unfortunately that the hot ones are cuckoo it's actually rule of culture number 91 unfortunately the hot ones are cuckoo and you know you've been dealing with some hot

cuckoo boys yeah sure i mean we're all hot and cuckoo right now that's everyone's i'm saying everybody is hot and cuckoo um i will I'm saying everybody is hot and cuckoo. I will say one thing. I can't call them out. What do you want me to do? No, I don't want you to do that at all. I'm just saying. Who are you referencing? Stop it, I said.

I know you deal with hot men who are crazy. No, that's not true. It is, actually. Don't edit this. Or I'll be really mad. Before we move on to I don't think so honey i did want to say that i have i have done the thing i always tell you not to do which is now that i have a show out i like fall down the rabbit hole and like search it and like go down twitter and see whatever i'm saying the majority vast majority of the feedback for game show has been really good and then

like every now and then you'll get to that person that's like oh this is the worst thing a gay person has ever done like yeah which is so funny which is like but ultimately I did want to just remind everyone that game show is out and that there

should be five episodes out right now and I hope you are enjoying them and they're coming out every day until all eight are out do you want to talk about the that phenomenon more or do you want to just move well yeah no i guess it was just weird because it was like literally 95 of the response has been so good and i'm like so excited about it and thrilled about it and then it's and then i was just thinking about how difficult it is to make like um queer content or like content for gays or content so hard because it's like it's like this it's it sort of feels like you have to really make an effort to involve everyone to be

called inclusive at all and you also want to be at the same time specific because that's how you get good quality is by being specific and by being um yeah you know detailed but then also you want to avoid uh stereotypes and avoid harmful tropes but then also you don't want to ignore the truth and what's funny yes so it's really interesting um just to try to make something that appeals to gay audiences because I was so – and I am so excited about it and what it is. But then you will find that you really cannot please everyone. And that is something that I think can be hard for performers and entertainers and creators is like that is something that you have to really remember and let go of. Like you will not please everyone. And also even if you please the vast majority of people, there will be those voices so i think it's just helpful to voice out loud

yes that's you have you have the exact right mindset about that and um this sounds a little petulant but it's like a certain point you're like okay and then sometimes it just comes down to people having not bad taste but like taste that doesn't align with yours right right and that's not it's not an indictment on what you're putting out it's not it's not an evaluation of your skill or your talent

or your work ethic it's just like they just won't like it and it's statistically that makes total sense even though in our job it's like we try to just in terms of on the even on a joke writing level which game show has jokes in spades but it's like even on a joke writing level like think about it like every time you you try to write a joke you try to like

maximize the uh amount of relatability that an audience like you're trying to like um maximize the size of an audience that's going to understand right joke right right right right and so yeah but then then at the end of the day like you're you're always going to have some sliver of some little segment of the population that is just like i don't know what that's bad or i don't know what that vocally doesn't get it you know what i mean like yeah And that's been the thing too. It's like, this is the first thing I've ever released that's gotten reviews.

This podcast has gotten, if people want to, they'll write something about it and it's been lucky enough to get a couple awards or whatever or nominations and stuff, but nothing where it's like, this is coming out as a piece of content

and it is to be reviewed. So it's been really interesting to just have something that you created just be up for consumption in that way which i obviously you've experienced in such a an intense way um but to be kind of like uh uh for it to move from like what it was which is like this is just for fun to be like and now let's see what quibi is and if it's going to be a thing let's list the things on Quibi and tell you if they're good or bad and it's like

but think about that like you know I don't know think about that journey I hate to use that damn word but it's like it started out in a basement it started in a basement and then you guys have remained so true to what it was and it's so good and it's right in a basement and then and then you guys have remained so true to what

it was and it's so good and it's so i'm really excited perfect for it's so perfect for like the audience that's watching quibi and um people who already know you guys it's it's so great you guys and i'm just happy it's there for people that want to laugh if they want exactly okay let's take one last break before we do i I don't think so, honey. We'll be right back. this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker and I'm a scientist who studies human behavior. Many of us have experienced a moment in our lives that changes everything. A moment that instantly divides our life

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which is a segment that we do on every edition of this podcast. And it's where we take one minute to rant against something in culture that's just making us not so happy we actually want to say I don't think so honey about that thing and so we do and you know traditionally Bo and Yang does go first do you have a topic traditionally you go first oh wait I go first traditionally I forgot

our traditions I do have a topic but I can go first if you want me to um uh I'll go first if you want me to. I'll go first. Okay, okay. You want me to time you, or do you want to time yourself? Yeah, I want you to time me. Okay, so this is Matt Rogers'

I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. Every couple years, we have to hear Brad and Jen. Shut up! They're never getting back together. If you think that they're getting back together i don't think so honey and i know better than you because i'm not a fool first of all they weren't even a great couple in the first place you just liked it oh my god they were both famous and they

got together honey if you knew anything about brad pitt he should be with someone who wants to go do ayahuasca in the woods and not pay their bills. And Jennifer needs to be with someone who can read the damn newspaper with her in the morning and doesn't mind her having six cigarettes at night and three vodka sodas, girl. And these are two different kinds of people who were just put together by the Hollywood machine Honey And every time they appear At the same damn award show girl I have to hear from you saying I think so Honey Brad and Jen No I don't think so Honey Brad and Jen And I don't think so Honey Brad and Jen That picture of them where he was like

Holding her hand Is like Proof that they should be together Bitch no he needs to let go of her And if he doesn't I don't think so Honey And that's one minute and twelve seconds Yes you got it all out Like, proof that they should be together. Bitch, no, he needs to let go of her. And if he doesn't, I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute and 12 seconds. Yes, you got it all out.

Well, I don't think so, honey. Do you think it's every two years, though? I think that picture was like a catharsis that had been building for like five years. I hated that. It really made me feel like I was in 1997. There were a few months last year where i was like is it 1997 like when renee zellweger was in the oscar conversation love her to death but i was like is it 1997 for the four oscar winners to be laura dern brad pitt renee zellweger and joaquin phoenix i was like i'm sorry but yeah actually is it 1997 and now

we're on the red carpet saying, can we please get Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston back together? And also Quentin Tarantino is popping off. And so is Martin Scorsese. Is it 1997 or not? Someone tell me right now. I actually need to know now, now, now. But that kind of affirms this dumb pseudo theory I have

that it's so cyclical in showbiz where it's like, these are these are these are like very meticulously timed campaigns to like bring people back into like i don't know honestly the zeitgeist this is someone made the joke the other day like on twitter it was like wow y'all really wanted a cultural reset and here we are like saying about corona and i was like like we didn't need corona for sure but what we for sure needed was a cultural reset because we were regurgitating the same damn stars the same

damn type of movies like like you know it just last year was such a weirdo like trapped in a box year and then when the year ended with everyone being like br and Jen, I wanted to truly explode. I thought it was unacceptable-oose. Now it's going to be Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. Are you ready? Yes. And your time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey,

people who think that Carole Baskin killed her husband. No, honey. I believe women. Constance Wu, as my friend Constance Wu has said, choose to believe women. Make the choice to believe women. There is this crazy smear campaign against her. You're all playing into this.

You're aligning yourself with Joe Exotic, which is so dissonant to everything that you value. I'm seeing a lot of smart people, compassionate people. 30 seconds. Who do not buy into these cults of personality, who are so on Joe Exotic's side. And I'm like, I don't understand. Carol, I can spot a liar.

And Carol Baskins ain't one. She, I believe that the husband- 45 seconds, 15 seconds. Flew on his own to Costa Rica. And then the plane damn crashed because it flew under the radar. That's what happened. That's T boots the house down, girl.

Leave Carole Baskins alone. I am the Chris Crocker to Carole Baskins of this generation. And that's actually one minute. I have two things to say right after that. And I got a hot executive network executives, Hans, said that that was a great one so thank you Hans sorry well that's that's cute

for him and what I have to say is two things I have two things to say at this time one it's crazy that you kept saying her name was Carol Baskins her name is Carol Baskin it's Carol Baskins no you stupid bitch Carol Baskin

you're right. So you sound like a fool saying that, and now at this time, I'll say my second thing at this time. Because in the documentary, and in the series, a bunch of people refer to her as Carole Baskins, so it was never fully canonically clear what it was. That's because they're from Florida, you freak.

That's why they say that. You better be careful. Well, I will, because I will avoid Florida. I'll tell you that. That's how I'm being careful. Now, the second thing I had to say, and you know how much that breaks my heart

because you know I love to go to Florida, but I also know a damn phantasmagoria when I see one, and it is A, the way people are behaving in Florida right now, and B, the way they've always behaved in Florida. You want to know how Joe Exotic sells tickets? His thing was in Florida. So let's just get that straight. And I say that with all my family.

It was Oklahoma, bitch. No, bitch. It was Florida, bitch. His zoo was in Oklahoma, bitch. Read the facts. Girl, no. It took place in Florida. Florida, USA.

Girl, no. Girl, this is so easily verifiable. And the readers are going to come for your ass. Literally, I hope they come for my ass. I hope they take me off my ass. No, Joe Exotic was in Oklahoma. Carol was in Florida. Oh my God, bitch, you're stupid.

If I'm wrong, every listener can fuck me. And the other thing I have to say is... Open up that hole, bitch. It's gaping. And so I have two things to say. It's Carol Baskin. And the second thing is i can acknowledge my error but you can't we'll see later at not at this time and the second thing i have to

say is she 100 killed her husband she murdered him in the coldest blood in the coldest blood I don't understand how you could watch that and say she didn't because she because like there is a case to be made and there's evidence that can be laid out to support the idea that he flew his own plane

to Costa Rica and then like on the way but then what or he got to Costa Rica and fully disappeared yeah I don't know about all that there also is you can also say that there's motive for the husband to disappear to make it look like she killed him

I don't know I just feel like you can read an energy of a person and I feel like her energy was not good I feel that she was a killer okay but if she doesn't have an episode i don't have all i don't have all my materials in front of me right now but i remember watching it and i was like i was like there's no way that she did not kill him at the end of the day let's say that she did kill him at the end of the day you still have you're still putting two

people you're holding up two people who both have had at one point murderous intent and be like well I like the guy like well this woman's crazy and she's a liar but it's like he's also crazy and a liar I think they both deserve to go away and I think also what they're both doing

to those animals is cuckoo bananas because you she really does pretend to be better than them, but she's not. Because when she was still charging tickets, I was like, honey, you essentially are doing the same thing but with a, hey little tigers and kittens in front of it. I was like,

first of all, she was cuckoo bananas. Yes, yes. What is Han saying? Also, death or disappearance is a very common legal term contrary to the doc's suggestion google it yeah that is that just that okay so i'll tell you what just happened a straight man has yelled at us to google it it's disgusting this is supposed to be our new home he says brown man a straight brown man has yelled at me to google it he's still straight now now we we actually have skipped over

a lot of tiger king and that was essentially culture for the past month so i guess we should before we go just give some brief reviews and thoughts i mean it was i mean like the covid is this monoculture now it's like it's all we can talk about it's all we're thinking about it's it's like we have to within the first 15 minutes of any conversation you have with someone you get that out of the way you're like how you doing blah blah blah um i feel like tiger king is part of that is welded into that culture now oh it's it's forever intertwined with the coronavirus and it's also hard to call it a monoculture when there's a tiger king in the picture it's like no you actually can't call coronavirus a monoculture When there's a Tiger King in the picture It's like no you actually can't call

Coronavirus a monoculture Because we had Tiger King That was actually hugely important I'm saying monoculture in terms of Like we're all talking about the same things Because we're all experiencing the same things Because we're all watching the same things Yes I thought you meant monoculture

My understanding of it was the culture is Revolving around one singular thing. But you mean that our point of view is all the same because of certain circumstances. Exactly. Because we're all sort of... We have a lot of similarities right now, which is beautiful. The Earth is healing! Just kidding.

Please. I don't think so many people would say that. What? That the Earth is getting a break environmentally it's like that's that doesn't I like that as a way if that makes you feel better about this great but that's not like that's

not a reason to like thing to say right now it's not what's it's not I don't know if you're making fun of me but it's like it's not a thing to embrace in all this okay no I think if you want if you want to see the positive in all this do that in like a couple years oh god yeah and that's how i feel about that also i just want to say that the joe exotic and his two straight husbands thing not something um thematically i haven't searched for in porn before like florida man and his two straight husbands for sure.

I've, I've typed that into Pornhub. Okay. So Matt is supporting the meth, um, pipeline, um, to gay men.

And that's actually slander. And you need to Google it. And you need to Google it. Um, well, Matt, I guess, I guess it was Oklahoma we were yelled at.

I don't know. I was seeing it in Florida world. On becoming a god in Central Florida, as it were. They're both states with panhandles. So I get it. And I think that's where I was confused. Yeah.

Okay. Well, Matt, I'm so excited to go on this new journey with you, this remote recording journey. Yeah, but I i wanted to end really soon i'll say that i yes i i do as well um i want to just stay positive i want to be with you eating cookies i want to be with you eating cookies girl someday soon can you believe that disney world is closed i can't believe the disney world is closed well absolutely canon it needed to happen but i just can't believe we're living in a world where no one is currently on splash mount oh man i think that's the least

of our worries it's fully the least of our worries i'm just saying can't believe and with that sentiment i think we're gonna close the chapter on this episode of Las Cotristas and Bowen what do we do every time we end an episode we sing a damn song and why don't you I've been leading off the songs too much lately why don't you lead us off do you

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