Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "More Like Read BY Jenna" (w/ Jenna Bush Hager)

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

This is TODAY, with Matt + Bowen... and their friend Jenna Bush Hager! The host of Today with Jenna & Sheinelle and STAR of The Devil Wears Prada 2 (yeah, we said it!) joins Las Cultch for the very first time to discuss getting dragged by her 13 year old, 30 Rock as an office environment and the best time to take in a Lobster Roll. Also, The Babysitters Club actually inspiring a young Jenna to start her own babysitting organization, Paula Abdul's "Straight Up", and "botox minimalism". All this, being parodied on SNL by Amy Poehler, choosing a front-facing life after many years of forced front-facing life, and a discussion of which presidents may have been gay. Save the libraries, y'all! They need our help! And if you're in a bookstore, look for that Read With Jenna sticker! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las cultureistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Las Culturistus in back pain. Well, this one is. I feel so sad for my sister, you guys.

He is. And I don't mean to, you know, curry pity. Is that? Curry pity. I don't mean to curry pity. It does sound like too much. To ending and why. Yes.

Curry pity. I'm just going to go ahead and identify as being in my 40s. Not that people in their 40s all have back pain. But I think I'm on an accelerated track of just needing Lidicane and joint stuff. So you've got a Lidicane right now? I've got a patch on now. What happened? tell the girls.

I did what's called a dumbbell good morning. And good night. And good night to all that. But what is it dumbbell good morning? Is it one of those things where it's like this? Because this is my favorite thing my trainer does. And this is my favorite thing anyone ever does in the gym. And you're just supposed to do this.

Ready? Podcasts are a visual medium. Check us out on YouTube to see what the hell I'm about to do. This. So when there's like the two dumbbell right here. And you put it up on your thing. And then you go. You hoist.

Yeah. You love that. I mean, I love it in theory, but like it is like when your trainer just like whips out like a, what did you call that? It's like a squat to squat to press. Squat to press. It's the craziest shit you've ever seen. Well, they're just showing off. I love it.

You have a straight trainer, straight male trainer? No. I got to get yourself one of those. Gay male. Gay guy. Oh, Ian. I know Ian. Ian.

We love Ian. Uh, yes. Check out his SoundCloud. Hey, check out Bowen's gay trainer sound cloud. And remember. Your back probably isn't flat enough when you're doing that back exercise. I'm saying this was not under his guidance. I did not get this injury.

Oh, this is important to say, disclaimer. Disclaimer. He was, Bowen was completely unattended doing these exercises. I cancel on Ian almost every week. And that's also something that I should be honest about. You are the accountability zone today. Absolutely. He's in his mid-40s.

He's got back pain. But you know what I've been doing whilst in bed with the useless heating pad and these useless lidekin patch. That might be my, I don't think so honey later. Patches. Patches. I've been reading a lot. What have you been reading? Various books. Ursula K. Le Guin. Do you read her? Yes. Okay, hold on. But my favorite thing is match. I go, well, of course. Well, of course. You would actually gag over Ursula. C.S. Lewis. You would love Ursula. I would gag over Ursula.

Yes. She's different. Different. You know, there's some overlap there. She's great. You'll love our guest today. We'll love our guests today. She loves books as well. She has a whole book club. In fact, I go into the Barnes & Noble. Picture me there. Adrift.

Adrift. I'm walking through not only one, not only two. Not only 17, 18, 19 books with the read with Jenna watermark on it. It might as well be called Barnes & Read with Jenna. No bigger name in books than our guest. And JBAH. And get this. Now crossed over into movie stardom.

She's here to promote the Devil Wars Dada 2. She is the star writer, director of Devil Wears Product 2. She did it all. No, really, she's got a cameo on the movie, and it made me smile. I love the movie so much. I'm so happy for all involved. Yeah. And to top it all up, she's also one of America's most beloved talk show hosts and television personalities.

Someone who makes it effortlessly look effortlessly competent. She is competent, makes it look effortless. Yeah. She's one of two people in the world in human history who have had their grandparent and their father be the president of the United States. The other person is her twin. Get that. By the way, that's good, good history. I was like, who's the other person? I was a book before. Who's the other person? Wait, did Don Quincey Adams have a? You know what? Fuck you guys. Fuck you both. That's what I was wondering. JQ. JQ. JQ. A. Might have had children. Well, it's actually better that we know less about the president's, I think. Yes. You know what I mean?

Yes. Have some secrets to keep from us. Well, that was JQA, but this is JBAH. I am so excited. We love her so dearly. Everyone please welcome. Our friend, Jennifer Bush Hager. Hi, guys.

How's it going, girl? I'm so happy to see y'all. So happy to see you. Now you're a guest on our show. I know. I love, I mean, when Matt comes. to my office. Let's do Joe.

When he is part of our show, I feel like everybody smiles a little bigger. Oh, of course. One of my favorite things to go do. He's the best. We all are both the best. And Bowen has guessed it as well. We don't have to do it. Well, thank you, by the way.

I will never stop thanking you for helping bring Adrian my high school teacher to the studio. Do you remember that? Oh, of course. I'll never forget it. And we brought Matt's mom. Oh. My mom came on for her television debut. She was pretty good.

She was really excellent. She really was good. She was. How do you have? She hit her beats. She hit her beats because I have seen it up close in my time, in my little moments there, where it's like, oh, people are just like nervous to be on television live. Like, it is a really nerve-wracking thing.

What are your little tricks to like bring these people to like a grounded place? I mean, I think just talking with them. You know, it's also how you interact when you're live, which is like you're just yourself, you And if you can just be sitting in conversation with somebody and kind of like letting them know it's all going to be okay. Usually they're like, wow, that wasn't so bad, you know? Because they're like, you just were the exact same when the camera was off as you were when it was on. I was going to say that. I remember one of our, one of my favorite TV appearances, Bowen and I have ever done was the, when we were, it was you and I, we went to go promote Fire Island on Hoda and Jenna.

Yes. And we went and it was, it was really one of the first. like big TV things like we did together. Yes. But you guys, I'll never forget what made it so fun and easy was hearing you and Hoda come around the corner in mid-conversation, like not stopping talking, et cetera, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, that. And you sat in the chair and you were like, hey guys, what's up? And then the conversation just kept going from there.

And I was like, wow, they really just walked in, sat in the chairs and were the exact same. And that made us feel like we could be ourselves. And it really was a model of great hosting. What about when you sang Rockefeller Senna? You're both, you all both did. We did? I didn't say. Well, you had a rap.

I had a rap. He's a rapper. He's a rapper. People know me as a rapper. Like, they know you as a movie star. Well, you guys, I was prepared to be cut. Let's be honest. I would imagine, like, that's one of those nerve-wracking things where it's like you do something that you know is cuttable.

But then to still make it in. I couldn't believe it. And they kept a. that your whole name was in it. Miranda Priestley basically, well, it's been out for a few weeks now

so it was 12. No, no, it came out Friday. No, I know, but this is coming out in a few weeks. Oh, oh. You have to understand.

Magic. We're in the biz. So basically, like, Miranda has people over at her Hampton's home, all fancy people. John Batiz. And she goes,

Jenna Bush Hager. In reality, I got there late. because I was doing the show, you know? And so I got there as soon as I could. And they were like, okay, we need Jenna, Merrill, and Anne. And I was like, wait, me, Jenna? And there was no script.

This part was unscripted. Yeah, yeah. So they were like, okay, this is like, here's the director was like, here's the thing. She's got in this interview. She's going to introduce you because she's trying to like bring her in the fold of like the media, back into the media. So you're just supposed to like say great interviewer, good interview. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I was like, natural, they said. Versus Merrill Street. Versus Merrill Street. You know, like, can you imagine? By the way, giving, like, duh. Like, of course she gave the most incredible performance, but you just buy it every second of how that character has changed, not changed. You see so many different shades of Miranda Priestley.

It's just, it's a, you know what blows my mind. And I was reminded on this press run was that she was supposed to retire around the time of the first movie. know that she said, I interviewed them, and she said for the first time, she turned down the first movie. Yeah. And then, and I couldn't believe it, but she turned it down because she was like, they're going to need me for this. And they're not paying me enough. So she asked for double what they offered her. Yeah.

And they, and she said, yeah. They said, yes, we need you. You do, you do figure, though, like, what makes that movie, it's, there's so many things about it that make it iconic. But she is the center of why. I mean, she comes on screen and you're like, that's one of films great characters. Yeah, forever. At least in modern history, and probably forever. She's so good.

And she also said in the first one, she method acted, because, like, the first she got there and she was, like, playing around and Stanley's her friend. And they were having fun. And then she would have to be cold and rude or whatever. And she just couldn't do it. So she realized, like, day two, she's like, I'm not going to be able to hang out with them. Yeah. And then this time, she was like, you know what? Fuck it.

I don't remember. Fuck it. Because I remember when the first movie came out, I was just on, like, Wikipedia and IMDB. And, like, I don't know. I think they, like, kind of glossed over this fact. Because it is like, it is like, whatever. People think about method in a certain way now. But apparently, the press in the first one was that, like you're describing,

Merrill was having a little too much fun. And then she goes, she turns to Anne Hathaway one day, like day two of shooting. And she was like, this is the last compliment I will give you. for the rest of the shoot. You're an amazing actor. I'm so excited to do this with you. But that's it. This is the only nice thing I'm going to say to you

for the rest of the shoot. Isn't that amazing? She said that she would hear them. Like it kind of like was a sad sort of like, you know, like great Gatsby, you know where they see the green light that she would hear them all like having fun together and she'd be in her dressing room like kind of mad

because she wanted to make sure there was like this distance between them which was so evident in the film. Yeah. And then by this time, she's like, she's kind of lost her footing in the second one. Yeah. And so, and she's a little bit more grounded, as you all know. Yeah. And whoever seen it knows.

I've seen it. Yeah. I don't think he's had the chance. His back hurts so bad. I have a physical therapist for you because I have bad, bad back issues. What's, do you mind describing it? Yeah. I'm afraid, and this is personal.

Please. But for me at least, was it your lower right, like in here? Lower left. Yes. So sometimes it's that your ass muscle. is not strong enough. You got us. You got to do those things I was doing earlier.

Were you doing it earlier? Yeah, the squat to press. No, no, no. No, it's this, it's here. It's right there. It's right there. The abductor. No, you have to do like the clam shells.

The clam shells on all force. It's your hips that need the strength. The hiplexer, no, I am. Oh, I like that where this is like, yes, right? And that's true. And that's true, right? Becca has back issues, she's saying. So I'll send you, but also it could be that you over

use your quads. Have you ever seen his legs? They're excellent. Oh my gosh. Don't even. Matt is so. Like John Sina. John Sina looks like a little bitch compared to Bowens.

What they all said. But that's you overuse your quads. But I don't even think it's that. I think I just pulled something. You tweeted. I know, but this will help so that you don't pull something. God, I need a PT so bad. It sounds like, and by the way, I always take your recommendations because you know who I'm at

through the show. Who? Dr. Dendi. Oh, yeah. Who's Dr. Dendy? Dr. Dendy Angleman, hon.

Tell him everyone at home about Dr. Dendy. Dr. Dindy's on our show. She's a dermatologist. Oh, I've seen Dr. Dendy. Yes, and I can't remember why. It was the first week I was hosting, which ended up being a really fortuitous week because, is that the right word? Yes, yeah, sure. Thanks, guys.

You know a word. Do you read? No, the answer is no. Oh, I read. You're writing a book. You do too read. Can I say something this? narrative that I don't read must end.

No, what you do push it. I don't push it. You said that you were in Burnton, Noble, like, wandering. That's because I usually go to a local bookshop. That's right. An independent bookshop. That's right. Or a library.

You can find me there most days of the week. Monday through Thursday. I'm probably at my local independent bookstore. Why did we bring up Dr. Dindy? What was the point? I was saying that you. But what was fortuitous? What was fortuitous was, was that ended up being an amazing week because I think

that's also the week. I met the dog, Matt Rogers. Oh, yeah, that was such a good week. Who got adopted right after. Right after that, which made me so happy. And there was a dog Bowen Yang. Yeah. I can still see Matt Rogers the dog because the people that adopted him follow me.

Oh, yeah. And I follow them back now. Oh, so you can see pictures of it? They post all the time. I'm essentially on the dog's godfather. You follow Matt Rogers on Insta. Yes. Do you ever DM him?

They kept the name too. Do you ever DM Matt? No, I don't. Well, the parents, yes, because they'll be posting with him. It's a relationship. But anyway, back to Dr. Dendi. Yes. So that was the week that I first guest hosted.

And I remember she came in to talk about skincare solutions and secrets. Yeah. It's like skincare around the world. She was so nice and you guys were so warm together. And that you were like, you have to go to Dr. Dendi. Went to her. Got my this done. What's this called?

11s. Got my 11s. A little Botox, right? A little Botox. I didn't know if I wasn't going to, you know, air your dirty secrets. It's not dirty. We all need it. I'm up front about.

the work I've had. Good. Which has been very little. Very little. I needed the nose and I got a little in my 11th. That's it. You look handsome. Thank you so much.

So handsome. Now that the thing is minimalism, the dorms are like, well, I'm a, I'm a Botox minimalist. I know. And I'm like, that's so funny that you can identify

as someone who like... I'm always like, I could use a little more, but then I think everybody's so scared because we're on TV that all of a sudden I couldn't move my face. And my daughter the other day was like, mom, you know, you could probably use a little Botox. I'm like, Mila, I get Botox. This is Mila. I know. Mela drags you. I know, man. She

really does. If you feel like you're like too big for your britches, get a 13 year old to hang out with you for a little. She's like, and your hair highlights, like, I can see your grace. And I, and by the way, I do, by the way, I do like change accordingly. Like I made an appointment. And I just interviewed the queen, and I did her introduction, and I read her the introduction, and she goes, it's too much about you, mom. And then I was like, come on, Mila, woke up at four in the morning. And I was like, she's right. She's right.

She's right. It's four in the morning. I'm like, I'm going to go rewrite this introduction at 4 a.m. Do you think she actually was right? Or do you think she just got in your head? No, I think she was right. Wow. And I also think that thought of, you know, being humble and not making.

everything about ourselves, like coming from a 13-year-old. I was like, you know what? If she says that at all, then I'm going to go in there and fix it. Totally. Are you as critical with her writing? No. See? This is, I wish you could just skip the teen years.

The reason I'm not apparent is because I got to sit through that part. I know. Well, there's the horrible part in the beginning, too, where they're just little, you know. screaming. The horrible part where I guess when they're babies. Oh, horrible. Just screaming. You never know what it is.

You know, our friend just had a baby. She's going, Sudi. Sudi. Oh, Sudi. I'm like, who? For some reason, I thought it was Dave. But Dave just got engaged.

First of all. Dave, just got engaged. Dave just got engaged. And you don't call him, Dave, you call him what? The tomato guy. The tomato guy. He loves it. He would love that.

Yeah. He loves it. Dave, the, I call him Dave, comma, the tomato guy. Yeah. We had to do this one thing on this. And in fact, I saw y'all's mutual friend and I'm like, Dave got engaged. Yeah.

I saw a C. Eddie's gross. Eddie, Eddie's grosser. Eddie's grosser. And I'm like, can you believe Dave got engaged? This is what Matt has done to our show. He's just infused his. No,

more. I love to bring. It's perfect. I bring the LCU to City with Jenna and France. That's right. Could you ever believe, with Jen and Chenal?

Did you ever believe that you would have this impact on today? No. His, his, his, like, family was sitting. Family's thing. Yeah, big time. I know. It was so fun. I mean, and it's still going to happen.

That's like, I just, whenever I'm like, is mad available? You could sit next to a tree and have chemistry. Literally. He already does. I'm tree. You're just stumping right now because of your back. I'm stiff like a tree. She stumped.

She stumped. Wait, what were we just saying, though, before we got on to that town? Dr. Dendy. Oh, well, yeah, you just, you're a great connector of people. Oh, well, thank you. How was, what was interviewing King and, or was it just the queen? Yes. What the hell was that like?

I was nervous. Yeah. And we're calling her queen? She is technically, that's her title. She is the queen. Okay, I'm just saying. I don't know.

American as hell. I thought she was the queen consort. I didn't know what the word consort was at all. Yeah. I'm not sure either, but it is, but now she's the queen. She loves books. So we were at the New York Public Library.

But Anna Wendor was there. Sarah Jessica Parker. It was all these sort of people that love to read. And then these authors whom I admire. So I was nervous. You know? And I'm not really used to being nervous, but I kind of like it. Like, I kind of like to continue to push myself to feel that, you know? Because otherwise, I mean, I've been at NBC for 16 years. Right. So sometimes you can get complacent and be like, what is, what feels fresh, what feels new? And so that's sort of like how it felt. Can I say I went back into the building for the first time last week? Yes. How was it? Fine and also a little weird. And what you're saying is something that I,

I guess I'm going to say I took for granted, like, you would just run into different kinds of people all the time. Not even like, not even like high profile, quote unquote, people who would come in. I'm just saying like everyone, like just the crews and everything. Yeah. All the staffs. Like, I love that it's an office building. I know. I love that the S&L offices were like, or the studio was next to the Seth Myers office.

Was next to the gym, which I work out in every morning. I never did it once. And every Monday that there's a live show, I'm like, I mean, it's kind of gross, but there's like, I'm like, they've used this bathroom. I'm not sure for what, but like, I take a shower and like things are, you know, all over the place. I'm like, who's been in here? What who's described? I don't know.

The shower area? The shower area has been used. Wait, the towels are all gone, you know? And it's like, did they not use the showers? I don't think, it's not, that's enough folks don't really use it. I think it's mostly people from downstairs who come up. Okay. Wait, have you eaten at the Luke's lobster?

Yes. I didn't know they had a lot. I said they've got everything down here. I know. They have everything in the concourse. It's actually a rule of culture number eight. Although I have everything in the concourse. You know what's the rule of culture number 14?

You don't want lobster on a Monday though. You know, you're not going to get a lobster roll because you've had a long weekend. You want a lobster roll to start your week. You can't start heavy. You can't start with a lobster roll. What day is best day for a lobster roll? I'd say Saturday. Yeah.

You know, like where you feel free. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you feel free. Wait, wait. You know what I, you know what the concourse doesn't have? And I don't know how you feel about this.

But every day I've been begging for the Hale and Hardy soup to come back. Forget it. What happened to that Hale and Hardy? It just disappeared out of nowhere. It's ridiculous. They're all gone? There's like one on like 34th in Lexington. Like, who's going there?

Yeah, no. Unless I just could leave the sheer amount of options for soup. I know. They would give. I've never seen anything like it. And you have to understand, I'm a huge soup fan. Me too, I love soup so much. I actually used to have the soup from juice press, which is strange.

And it's out of season. They stop it in the summer months. That's not okay. Because of ingredients? Well, I think because it's, you know, people don't want something hot when it's warm outside. I disagree entirely. And anyone that's out there like, it's too hot for soup? No.

You just haven't thought of what soup to get. Exactly. You don't have, like, beef barley in the summer. A little minty kind of pea soup sounds good to me. Now you're talking too crazy for me. Are you a gazpacho queen? I like gazpacho. I'll have it once a summer and I'm like, oh, I'm good.

Because it's too. It's too. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. See, my mom never cooked. I don't know about your parents, but my mother did not cook. So she would get that bean with bacon soup that was like Campbell's, which was like basically your sodium intake for the year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And open it up. But like that with like those saltine crackers with the covered in a little cheese melted in the toaster oven. So you like this. Oh, I loved it. Okay, great. I mean, now was it good for me and and probably not? Who's to say?

We didn't know. We didn't know. Probably not. But was it delicious? Sure. Would you feed the kids now? Beans with bacon? I'm not sure that they still make bean with bacon.

But beans are one of my favorite food groups. Beans? I grew up in Texas. That's Texas. I was going to say. Yeah. Beans are Texan down. And they're good.

They're protein. Veggie protein. You know what always chased me away from beans? What, the poem? Yeah, the poem. Was it the poem? Beans, beans are good for your heart. The more you eat, the more you fart.

I just don't like it. It's uncouth. It's untoward. I've never heard this poem. Oh, God. I didn't know you guys knew the poem. It's crass. The more you eat, the more you toot.

The more you toot. It's because you grew up in a refined atmosphere. The more you toot, the better you feel. So eat those beans at every meal. At every meal. Oh my God. Where is this from the Bean Council? Who made this?

We don't know, but we learned. in like third grade same oh I love so frequent tooting I don't feel good like the more you toot the better you feel I don't think so at all I'm in a panic about who can smell it why it's happening will it stop will it stop all these are beans I mean how did I get you all here I'm not sure but oh just come along yeah just sit down you're here come along we've invoked the name of Texas yes the name we have our guest here and it's a thrill to be able to ask you the central question of our podcast, J.B.H. Yes. Jenna, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

Okay. You ready? Yeah. It was 1980. It was the combination of two things. It was Anne M. Martin's The Babysitters Club. Oh, my God. Reading that Logan v. Marianne, which was kind of like as romantic as you could get, you know, back in the 80s. And there was like, I was like, oh, maybe I'm not just like a chubby little kid from Texas. Maybe there is romance and entrepreneurship and a girl gang waiting for me. It was entrepreneurship. Waiting for me like in my, you know,

friends' backyard. And we actually made a babysitters club. Did you? How did it go? Well, not great because we didn't have access to a phone. That's a huge part of it. And we were also babies. Yeah.

Babies, babysitting babies. Babies babysitting babies. I did. I babysat. Yes. But like the whole club didn't really get in, you know? Totally. And why did we need a treasure?

You know, like what was a treasurer for? I loved Claudia. Don't get me wrong. Right. But then it's that coupled with the same year, Paula Abdul's album, straight up. But particularly the video for opposites attract with Scat the Cat. Yeah, DJ Scat the Cat, DJ Scat the Cat damn seen with Paula. Did J.

Skat Cat cat. It's got cat. It's definitely Scat Cat cat. I loved cats. I had a cat. We got together. Like opposites of tracks. And also that, what's the one?

that's like, oh, straight up now tell me. You better love me forever. Are you just having fun? That album, which was a tape for me. He had a cassette. Cassette tape. Coupled with reading the babysitters club. You said it's time to empower.

I was like, you know what? Let's go. Scat. Let's go. Let's go scat. Let's go scat. You had a pop star, a cartoon. cat and these little girls running a business.

Right. And that's who you are. Yeah, I was like, I am going, I'm going to take my cats with me wherever I go and I have. You were ready to enterprise. Mango and Maisie. Shout out. Two cats. Are you worried that they one time are going to do what a lot of the cats are doing on reels? Suddenly I've been fed. No, no, those cats are AI. Are you sure? Am I worried what the cats are going to do? What are the cats? It's like this It's like footage from like night vision cameras where someone is sleeping and they have two cats and the two cats start to like get into it. And next thing you know, they're flying all around the room having a argument. See, I see AI cats on my, my, I have a different.

I have a different algorithm. Oh, you mean AI cats the ones that are like. They do like the dives off the diving board. No, we're. No, I'm not worried that they're going to do that. I'm not worried about that. Here's. My AI is now all Donald Trump doing a stank wall.

down a board walk to the song One Step at a Time by Jordan Sparks. I don't know how it happened. Wow, that's a very specific algorithm. It's literally just him walking in. It's AI Trump walking in heels in hot pink shorts to... You know the song. Other people know it too.

No, because she, it's polluting her algorithm too. Because it's so absurd. Why? Because now it's polluting all of ours because our phones are listening. And she's with him constantly. So it's attached it. Of course. And I also, and whenever I get it, I send it to people.

To Melissa. So funny. I become that person that sends real. Mims. Yeah. Mims. You're sending memes to people. Are you getting into kids memes?

No, well, they're not on their phones. No, they don't have. Thank God for you. I'm holding out. But don't you feel that you're keeping those? I signed wait till eight. So Mila's close. She's 13.

She's the last one. Poppy's? No, Poppy's older? Poppy's 10. No, Mila's the oldest. Got it, got it, got it. Okay, so do you, are you, when you're referencing the time of when you found Paula Abdul? Yes.

Is that around where Mila is now? No, I think I was, no, I was younger. I was like seven or eight. 10, nine, ten, that type of age. Who's her Paula? Mila's Paula is Olivia Rodrigo. Love, she loves Olivia Rodriguez. It's her number one.

I mean, she loves Sabrina. We went to the Erez to her. She loves, loves Taylor. She loves Gracie Abrams. We went to that, you know, she loves her. But for whatever reason, Olivia Rodriguez is her gold standard. I think it's because she very much is the one. You think so?

I think Olivia is the one rising. She stands out. She's doing something. She's in her own lane. She has some music that's like a little bit ragier, which I think teens want. Yeah. Because they feel that sort of angst and they want to, you know, we like, I was like, Nirvana, you know, which is not a, I'm like, we were kind of.

of like, I went to concert Pearl Jam and I looked up and my tiny little sister who's still really little was like crowd surfing. And I was like, oh no, and she has back problems. I'm like, you know why you have back problems? They dropped you in that crowd surfing. But I think teens want like an outlet for some of that shit.

Yeah, yeah. And she provides that. I do think that what Billy Eilish does is a little bit more esoteric. Yes. It's a little bit more like emotional and like in a way that she's cerebral. Whereas Olivia is speaking directly to these emotions in the same way that Taylor did. Yes. And I think it's, it is a generational thing.

To me, it's about, like, the depth in terms of, like, Billy doing something, like, subconscious. It's tapping into something like, I love that she's still obsessed with, like, sleep and, like, all this stuff. Yes. With Olivia, it's like, this is right on, like, right on, like, my sleeve. you get it I feel like it's very legible

to someone like me like Who's 13 years old Yeah Well wait wait wait wait hold on Paula Was that the same album as Coldhearted Snake or no Yes She's a cold-hearted snake

Look into his eyes Uh-oh Uh-oh He's been telling lies He's a lover boy and plays He don't play by the rules Uh-oh I mean by the way

How do we know every word To that song that we haven't heard It's in here. Because you know why the cassette is like giving you a sense of place in time? Yes. And you're reading Babysitters Club. Yes. In your room.

I'm sure it's so vivid. Yes. Like now like everything's served up to me in a way. And I'm sure it's a function of age like, you know, neuroplasticity imprinting. But I'm like, oh, I don't, this doesn't, I'm not going to remember this. I know. Like the discovery of this new artist in the same way. I discover, I remember where I was when I discovered driver's license.

Yes. I told him on this podcast. I was like, have you heard of Olivia Rodriguez? He was like, no. I was like, way. You might be hearing about it. Hey, Bo, on point of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore.

Point of answer. It's because everything has a catch. Hey, or it turns out to be something else entirely. Like a total catfish situation. Exactly, Bo. Except for Hotels.com. Yeah, that one's pretty literal. Because it's Hotels.com.

It's in the domain. You go there, you book hotels, hundreds of thousands of them. And hold up. That's it? That's it. And when stays are booked as a member, rewards are earned every time. Every stay? Every stay, no tracking or managing, just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings.

Which, by the way, already feels nicer than most rewards programs. Okay? Yeah. Members can also get up to 20% off booking, so savings start right away. Does that mean no weird restrictions? And no blackout dates. Book what works when it works. It's actually really fitting of real travel.

So the name is honest, you're saying. And the rewards are too. Exactly. Hotels.com. It's all in the name. So this is a podcast about video games. Kind of. It's also about friendship.

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So deep, so deep, so deep, so deep inside. But that's not, I don't think that's, I think that's her first one, right? That's not the same album. Okay, see, this is where, this is where, she was then trying to prove she could sing. Right, right, right. Which she did. And what she did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So deep, so deep, so deep, so deep inside. You see, you hear them, you hear it, them might go far away. Yes, exactly. How many cabinet positions were there in your baby, Club. Were you treasurer? Was that what you were saying? I think I was, I can't remember if I was treasurer or vice president, which is also a job.

You were like, trust me. Vice president is a thankless job. I was like, guys, should we try to go around door to door? What should we do here? Were there four of you? It was my sister, our next door neighbor, Robin Oxford. Robin? My mom didn't allow, she allowed bean with bacon,

but she didn't have sweets in the house, so we would climb through Robin Oxford's window. and steal her twinkies and such. Yeah. And then it was a boy and, yeah, two boys, brothers. And we actually painted their little backhouse. We sponge painted it. How 80s was that.

Do you remember Spongue? Sorry, they were babysitters in the club? Well, they were part of our club. I don't know that they actually babysat. Young gay boys in the neighborhood. You don't know that they babysat? Well, it was a club. I'm not sure.

They actually babysat. I did. You did. But were there four positions? President VP. So Robin, my sister Barbara. Did I mention her? I hope so.

Yes. Me. Sissy. Sissy. There were five of us. Secretary, treasurer. Vice President and President. Vice President.

And probably Surgeon at Arms. Pr. Surgeon at arms. Well, I was going to say. I don't know what a surgeon in arms does. Me neither. Something. Because in the Babysiders Club there were four of them, right?

Yes. And I was going to say like that's. Right? Stacey? Claudia, Christy, Mary Ann. Oh, no, there were more than four. Wasn't there?

And Don. Because Dawn moved from California. Did you ever read the babysitter's? I read a couple because, so my contraband growing up as a little closet and boy was just sneaking into my sister's room and stealing her books. Yeah. And I would...

Did you read Judy Blume? I didn't read Judy Blume, but you know what the big standout thing that I hit under my bed was, was Sister of the Traveling Pants. Yeah. I was like, I can't have anyone find. I can't have her find it. My parents would see and be like,

that's weird, but she would immediately be like, you're gay, you're reading a girl's book. Yeah. But I, God, like, isn't that, ooh, I love like a book that you're not supposed to read. Yes. You know. Yes. And honestly, even when Judy Bloom gave me, are you there? God, it's me Margaret, which is Mila's real name.

I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to give that to Mila. And she said, you can't give that to Mila. You can't give it to Mila. She doesn't want a recommendation from her mother. hide it somewhere and let her find it. And I think it's so right. Like kids need to be empowered to find their own sort of way. Like nobody gave you that book.

Nobody gave you. You discovered it. And there's something really empowering about that. Well, then you are in the business of telling people what to read, Jenna Bush Hager. What's that about? That's heaven. Oh, yes. Yes.

It really is. You love it. I love it so much. And our mission is really to highlight newer voices. It's really hard. I mean, y'all are writing a book. It's really hard to be published. It's really hard to be seen.

Not all authors historically have been published, you know? And so I think representation really matters. Yeah. And finding authors who are just starting their way. Yeah. But it's such, I think it's such a lesson in, like, if you love something organically, you can kind of make it part of your work. Like, y'all are doing this.

You're sitting around with your best friend. I know. Having conversations. Heaven. Like, doesn't that feel like heaven? It feels so nice. Yeah. It really is, it's like, I think we take it for granted, too, as like a thing that's given us so much.

I'm able to do. I do think, though, that what is, what you're able to tell from Reeb with Jenna and maybe people can tell from this is that we genuinely enjoy doing it. I always feel like, I think Amy Poller said, like, if you're having fun, they'll have fun. Yeah. Something so, like, key to remember. And I really, what I love about Reb with Jenna, and I asked you this when I was co-hosting with you, because I've been there a few times when you've debuted your pick.

and just how strenuously and how much you really do care to make that selection. You don't just read one and think, oh, this will do. You know, you read a lot. I mean, I'm reading all the time, but that also is such a gift, you know, to get to do that. But it's very time-consuming. It is. Like, you're already a really busy person. I mean, I read all the time.

But, like, also, how fun is that, you know? And there's, I mean, I can listen to books and Speechify is this app that I'm obsessed with. Speechify. People love the speechify. It's really helpful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if you have to read something quickly, you can speechify that. Do you, do you, I, for some reason, I'm so, I'm so weirdly picky with what makes it to the audiobook stage because it feels like something that's like easily absorbed.

Like, like dense fiction can't beat it for me. I don't know why. That's why I have to be able to see it and listen at the same time. Oh, you do both. But like, yeah, I rarely just listened to audiobook because it's, I mean, this is also like such a lucky thing. but I start to get sleepy because my parents read to me before bed when I was little. So even like if I'm driving or something, like hell no. Because I kind of want to just like, that's it.

Totally. So I have to be able to read it at the same time. Of course. I find that the way audiobooks are performed really matters. Well, I mean, when we think about like Tom Lake, which our queen and Patchett wrote, but Merrill Street read it. Exactly. That to me, it's like if you can have those moments or Lena Dunham was on the show,

I'd love to listen to her, read her own work. We do it in the car, Melissa and I, and it's so... It's her. She's just a funny person telling her own story. Like, Mariah Carey, we always say... It's a vast audio book. One of the only book clubs we ever did on this was we did Mariah for the meeting of Mariah Carey.

And just the way that she informs the stories with her voice, it made me feel like this is a whole other dimension. And I said to Bonn the other day, like for our book, I'm so excited to read it and give it that dimension. Because in a way, it's a whole other project. Yes, it is. It's like the performing of it and the storytelling of it, which is gone. Yeah. You know, like that's the original art form.

Oh, yeah. Wait, this new one I want to read, Caller Unknown? Yeah, Caller Unknown. Is this the first thriller in a while? It's the first thriller. I've only chosen two thrillers before. One is called All the Colors of the Dark, which is so good. and I wish I'd brought you books.

It's so good. It's like if room, which maybe you've read and to kill a mockingbird because it's about like this friendship and a small town. But it's also this kind of thriller. It's so, so good. I rarely choose thrillers or mysteries. How come? But I don't know.

I love them, but I do feel they become slightly formaliac. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Like I can kind of be a detective and I'm like, wait, this is, you know, I know where this is headed. So I think things that feel fresh and interesting or have another dimension to it I'm into. Yeah. Are you like that with everything? Kind of. Yeah. The stuff that you can get ahead of. You're like, I'm like, I pay too much attention to that, you know, like they're like, Chanel will be like, how did you know that they were going to surprise this with that person? Once you know, you know, I'm like, my ears were open. It's kind of like when you're a huge fan of reality

TV. Yeah. Like you realize, like, for example, Survivor. Yeah. Yeah. This season is Survivor 50. And so it's like a huge season that a lot of people are watching. And a lot of, like, if you're a fan of the show, you'll probably go on your YouTube landing page. And then there's like a whole bunch of people that talk about it. And they're like, oh, this person's going to win. They're getting the winners at it. And you're like, oh, God, the winners edit.

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. And it's like in a movie now. It's like once you see something mentioned, you know it's going to pay off. Those are just the rules. So that's like the other side of being a huge fan of something. thing is that you then become someone who's ahead of it without wanting to be. I know. You just love it so much that you know the formula.

So sometimes you have to ask yourself, am I just someone who's very learned about this thing or is this not surprising? Like, am I the problem. Exactly. Do you love reality TV the way he does? I love it. I don't. I'm not as, I'm not as expansive in the way that Matt is, I feel.

Matt. Like, do you have a preferred show? I love, I love my survivor. Yeah. I love my. We love housewives. Yes. That's basically it.

But housewives across the board. Pretty much. We love traders. We love traitors. Yeah. And that's basically it. I'm kind of like I'll watch, I'll try it. You know what I watched?

The Age of Attraction on Netflix. What's that? No one knew how old anyone was and then they all met up and they did a reveal. Did that work? No. It's a little upsetting. It's a little upsetting. It is.

It is. and who really gives a show. Do you know what I mean? Thank you. You think. Who really? Because I was like, I don't care that she's 19.

Yeah. Yeah, but here's the thing. Like, that's, I think, the point is it's like, you're like, oh, yeah, who cares? And then the family comes in. And this is revealed. And that's, and then this thing about. Oh, oh, oh. Because it's an interesting depiction of the way you perform on a date about like, because I don't

know how y'all felt or you felt when you were dating or like how you, how like we feel now, but it's kind of like, in the initial stages of dating, you definitely are, whether you want to or not, you are performing. Yes, of course. You're saying things are permissible that actually they're not. Yeah. And it's just funny to watch in a truncated, you know, reality television program just how quickly, oh, that thing you said wasn't a big deal ended up being a big deal.

That thing you said about yourself ended up not being true. And I appreciated this big thing of age. being like, of course it's just a number. And then seeing people's like real thoughts, insecurities, insights about that actually ended up being kind of interesting as a social experiment. Yes. I mean, it's true.

The beginning is so performative. You're like, I don't care that you're 79. What you order. Like, think about what you order a dinner. It's so different than what you would order 20 years in. You're like, I'm not going to eat the spaghetti. You know, it's like, now you're like, pass me the spaghetti, you know?

It's like crazy. I kind of think it's a baller move when someone on a date is like, I'm going to have pork chop. Soup. I'm getting soup. Yeah, I'm going to slurped in front of my guy. Because I don't want to get the lettuce in my teeth. Listen,

it's so bad. If you can't sit there and watch me slurp. We have no business continuing. Do you remember what you order? Do you love how Matt can find his camera anywhere? Matt could be like in like four rooms away and he'd find that camera. Do you see me? Do you catch me finding the camera?

Oh, hell yeah. And sometimes you say, where's my camera? He knows. Were you the type of little kid that when you would go out to dinner or be in an elevator, you'd look in the mirror? Me too. Can't you see baby Matt? My mom says that, so when I was little, she would cut hair in the house.

And of course, like, she had like a little room for her salon. And so I'd go in the room and talk to her clients that were in the chair. But just look at myself up. Can you see it? Can I say something? Yes. We're on Zoom a lot recently. Stop it.

This is so mean. And he's just... Well, just, just, just when he's just the first log on. He doesn't do it the whole time. What's the first? What does he do? Everyone's like, hi, hi, hi, hi, everybody. Hey guys.

Just like kind of primping, primping on Zoom, you know? That old chestnut. Everyone does it. That old chestnut. I'm not primping a gym. Hey, everybody. I'm just seeing myself.

There I know. All this. He's a little. Just a minute, this is a little hot. Maybe I need to smile a little bit more. We all do it. He's here. We all do it, but some of us like it more than others.

I'm getting red to feel free. Red with Jenna. Red with Jenna. Red with Jenna. More like Red by Jenna. The title of that. Perfect. More like red by Jenna.

No, but I love that about you. You remind me of like a little Disney prince. He does. Not the first. I know. I was like, I was like, I was. It's like, I feel like I've told him that before, which is weird, that that's come up twice. You do say it maybe twice a month.

That's so sweet. I love it. It's true. You're handsome, and you're like. But, but, but, oh my God. Goofy, goofy, foofy. Get the hell out. No, I don't want to leave.

No, first of all, that was not where I was going. I just mean like, no, stop. Stop. We love you. Thank you guys. Well, so listen, I, I do have a question for you, which is like, sometimes I'm there and like it's such a natural thing at the show to be like oh okay and coming up next it's this person how often are you gagged how often are you like oh oh no and then are you really grateful

to have someone sitting next to you like freaking out because the person is there yeah i mean we had goldie han today wow that's amazing and it's amazing but i will say most of the time everybody is super kind you know and so it sort of lives up to your but i'm definitely a team, like I want a teammate, you know, I would not want a solo show because I like to be part of, I like to play off somebody. Yeah. I like to laugh with somebody before the show even starts. I like having somebody to like, I mean, you know Hoda, I loved Hoda so much. I still love Hoda. I see her all the time. I talk to her all the time. It feels really good to be in community, you know? Like I don't want to be solo by myself because then I really would there be pressure there.

because then that feels like a date where you're a first date where you're performing something about yourself where you're like I want the spaghetti yes you're getting I want the spaghetti and you can eat spaghetti when somebody like Hoda's next to you you can't eat spaghetti all night right yeah and if you're solo it would feel

it does feel a little bit harder to eat spaghetti when you're solo because then you're like oh god like there was no one next to me eating it too who was the week where you like we had Kelly wait no was it well I've been lucking out a lot I had Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, Kelly Clarkson. And there was somebody else that you were like...

Gagged? Yeah. Was it Reese? Yeah, maybe Reese. We had Reese on the show and then Reese came in and I was like, oh my God, I get to hang out with Reese twice. And the Real House was of Rhode Island gagged you. Oh, yeah.

That was fun. We actually changed the date of that so that Matt could be there. Oh my God. Y'all love him. We do. That's amazing. And I needed his expertise. Of course.

Did you end up going to Coachella with that woman? Yes. I didn't see her in any of your pictures. With Kelsey Swanson, we went to Coachella with her. Kelsey, I didn't mean to call her that woman. I just, there's something about the way you phrase things that is so. Did you go end up going to Coachella with that woman? No, it's, you order spaghetti.

But I didn't see her in your photos. No, we were in photos with her. We were in photos. Okay. It's fine. We posted a couple, but like the thing was like, you know, I also didn't want to like, here's the thing. I know.

I was sensitive to them. And I was actually telling them this because they came in the Rhode Island women and they There was more than just, there was more than her? No, I'm talking about in the moment of interviewing them on the show. They were nervous. We walked over and literally, I think it was Alicia, was just like, I mean, this is crazy. This is the today show. It doesn't get any bigger than this.

This is wild. I can't believe you guys do this all the time. This is just crazy. This is absolutely insane. I can't believe we're here. They were like, we're novice. What cameras do we look at? Matt's like, that's your camera.

Am I? Right there. And I go, no, that one's mine. Don't take that one. That's, uh, not yours. But anyway, like, I was just like kind of telling them in so many words. I was nervous for them. Yeah.

Because I was like, I know how intense it's going to get for that. And they were nervous, too. Yeah. They were. There's some sort of divide. And so that's why I wasn't like, she was, I knew she was coming to Coachella, but I didn't know how she'd react to, because I don't think you know how you're going to react. Did people know who she was?

Not there. I think a couple people came up and were like, are you Kelsey from North Island? But it was like the first week after it didn't really like stick at that point. Now I feel like she's very much a protagonist of the show. When you're walking around with Bowen Yang, they tend to catch him first. I felt like I was pretty incognito.

That's good because it's more fun to be, well, and also those music fest, like you're right. People are looking every direction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you all have fun? So much fun. We always have fun. I will say this.

We were a little salty because we went the first weekend and then the second weekend, it was like, Madonna came out. I know. And Olivia Rodriguez came out. Billy Elish was there. Oh, yeah. Billy Elish came out with Bebs the second weekend, too. I thought, why was that all the great stuff in the second weekend? I thought the first weekend was supposed to be the big one.

I think they're flipping it this year. I think the first weekend is now more the creator's influencer. heavy time and maybe people want to avoid that. I don't know. There's a whole bunch of reasons. It seems like the artists are not shy about saying

Weekend 1 has a reputation for being not good because it is a lot of like what I was clocking was that they were feeling like the audience wasn't into it. And I think it's because

the first weekend is a lot of influencers. Like they're filming and not present. That's what the buzz I've heard amongst like what the artists say is that weekend one doesn't feel as good as weekend two. Okay. Well, next year, y'all better books weekend too. That's what we're going to try.

But also it's like, come with us. I would come with y'all. Really? I mean, I'm a little scared of like where you use the, like, I just like lines. Bathrooms are tough. Did you get home super, super late? Yeah. How, I would say like a sensible 1230.

Oh, that's not bad. It's not bad. No. Adam Scott was on our show, you know, severance. And he was saying that he couldn't get home to like five in the morning. Was he there? He went with his daughter. I love it.

said it was co-halla. Cohella. You know, it's just, it's, it's very, um, it's very sort of arcane esoteric, uh, the first time you figure out how to leave. And then once you know, so I need to go with y'all because y'all have your roots down. Yeah, exactly. What, but Jenna, you know, you're a tease. You're a tease because you say you want to come to the culture awards.

Well, I don't think I'm nominated this year. Well, I don't know. After three years of promising attendance. I don't think I'm not. I watched all the awards this weekend, and I'm pretty sure I'm not nominated. Okay, so first of all, there's another half of the nomination. Another half. I'm recording this love to come out.

So I don't know. I don't know if you. We'll see. It's the kind of thing where if you show up, you might go home with something. I'm not nominated. It's not your year. He just told me it's not my year. You're a winner.

See, this is the thing about you Hollywood types. Susan Lucci. Susan Lucci never won. She did win. She did win. I think it was her 17th try. But also she was nominated. I wanted 17 tries.

Who's getting the Today Show Award for Excellence in the Morning? It doesn't exist this year. It's not a category. You told me that was an iconic one, like the Allison Williams Cool Girl Award. That one's coming back. But the Today Show morning excellence isn't there? I guess it's been won by the best already. Look, we're...

Well, I guess I can't make it. I did love that about Devil We're as Prada too, though. I was, you know. Oh, I know. I was, it was a very realistic portrayal, I felt, of what would happen to those characters where they would be not, then this is beyond just Miranda, but also the industry and the vibe. Even the end, the way it ends is sort of a happy ending for them, but it's, it's kind of bleak in the way that it, if you really think about it.

I know. Yeah. I mean, there's, it would feel so dishonest if it was still the glitzy sort of like, unfettered. Well, and that's, she said this, Merrill Streep, and it's so true. She said that they wanted to do a sequel like nine years or like it was like three years and then nine years. And it never felt like the right timing. And that this part of it that obviously, you know, magazines and publishing are having a really hard time. But also journalists are needed more than ever to hold the powerful accountable. So all of that made it really interesting to dig into and not just like, oh, here's another sequel. And I actually think that's what really worked about. the film. It felt very motivated. It didn't feel like, oh, we're making this sequel just to have a Devil Wars product too, even if that was the initial idea.

Yeah. Because I'm sure, I'm certain that they were just like, oh, dollar science. Like, let's do it. But they also said that the actors wanted to see the script to make sure that there was. Because you don't like, you know what is worse than doing a movie that like, you know, everybody's been anticipating just for the money is like everybody hates it. I know. And that's more often than not.

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up? with the name Hey Jonas, guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

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it's worse we're like too we're not actors I'm too worried about getting the line right then like it's easier for you to just exist on camera in that way probably they didn't want to give us lines

and know it was all going to be cut you know right right right right I will say my favorite look in the entire movie was what Anne wore to the Hamptons oh you loved that dress I loved that kind of patchwork

that is very you and you know what That is very, you know what was kind of, it was kind of a quilt. Melissa, my stylist is always putting me in a quilt. Yeah, you love a quilted look. A shacket. You love a jacket. Yeah, I love it.

What's the shirt? Shirt. Shirt. A shirt. A shirt. A shirt. A jacket. Yeah, shacket.

Yeah, she was wearing like a patchwork quilt. A shirt. And what I, what was a little bit, I don't think so honey for me, was in the movie, she's like looking at things to wear. And she sees this dress. and we don't see it as the audience yet, but Stanley Tucci is like, no, that's inappropriate for this event.

You're not wearing that, no. And if it gets to stand on it, no. And then she's like, oh, I want it. And he's like, it's not appropriate for this event. And then she puts it on and gets on the bus and goes out to Hamptons. And I'm like, she looks the chicest there. I know.

What do you mean? It wasn't right for the event. They did say, like, because I was like, well, what about styling? You know, it's like the devil works product. The costume is probably more important than anything. Hampton's easy, casual she. That's what they said, do not dress up.

Like, and if you notice even Merrill was wearing like a buttoned down shirt and like these pants. I loved everything about her aesthetic. And one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie was her a little bit wine drunk in the kitchen. Yes. She gets like a little win. And she's just the way that Merrill was playing Miranda Priestley's joy. I know. I was like, that's such an interesting.

Because you didn't see it. Because you don't see it very much. But it did get me thinking about like, yeah. that is the way that that woman would feel joy. The way she like, she sort of says something to Anna Hathaway. And she like, pours herself a big class of rosé. And then like floats out of her kitchen and her like man-tellered shirt. And I'm like, damn.

But she was just in like a buttoned down in cafes. Like they said to keep it. You know, did you notice how many ties there were in the film? Ties are back. Ties are back. You look very handsome. Thank you. I wore a tie in the third grade and I made my cat a matching.

tie. Don't say I'm not talented. Your own little scat cat. My own little scat cat. His name was Cowboy and he wore a little tie and I had the matching tie and I even and I will try to, I will show you this photo when we're done, went to the White House in a mustard yellow shirt from the limited to a tie and a scort, a matching scort to the tie to the tie, which was just really

a look. The mustard in the White House? I think that might have been the first score in the White House. I bet you John Quincy Adams were a score. Which presidents were gay? What do people that are in the know? I don't know. Do you know? Well, they say

Abelig and was gay. Oh, well, because of O'Mary? Well, no. Before O'Mary was also. O'Mary in the Abraham book. In the his roommate, you know, in Illinois or or something. Yes.

Yeah. But Abe probably. All bottom. Yeah. Well, Marfan's syndrome. No, that would be the opposite. Marfan's makes you small. No, Marfan's makes you long.

Really? Yeah, Abe had it for sure. You know, Abe had a morphin syndrome. I know, seriously. Made him so long. How tall do you think Abe was? Six, eight? Anybody in Google?

Wait, didn't we see? We went to the Brooks brothers and they had a recreated Abe Lincoln suit. How tall was he? Tall. The Brooks brothers. Out tall was his recreated. Has he been like 6-2? Which at the time was like that tall, guys.

At the time. Six-four. That's my husband is 6-4. So at the time, that was like seven feet tall. Okay. Five-six was the average at the time. Five-six was the average. Okay.

So you're talking about the president of the United States being almost a foot taller than everyone else. Yeah, interesting. Cuckoo. And a gay guy? I don't know. I don't remember Henry being that tall. He's tall. Listen.

Was that the first thing you noticed? I like it, yeah. You like a tree. You had to climb a tree. I know you. Tigris. Change your hours so you can swing a little. You guys, even if I changed my hours, I'm too tired to swing.

I mean, honestly. You're reading to do. I have reading to do. And also, I don't, I mean, I'm not going to go there. But the people that I would have to choose to swing with. Do you know what I mean? Was like your neighbor your neighbors in Connecticut? Like no thank you.

No thank you. Come on. Jenna, you're so fun. You know, you really are the best. No, like honestly, I'll never forget the day we first met you.

You had met them before. My, no, because it was Hoda and Maria Shriver. We hadn't met Jenna. Oh my God, yes. The first time we were on, Maria was in your spot.

Oh, she was a queen too. I love Maria Shriver so much. Yes. What a legend. She's so wise. But the first time we met Jenna was the same time was when, is what you're describing. Yes, yes, yes. And I remember this is when you had your length.

You've kept the Bibb Bob since you... I need to cut it again, though. So you're loving it. I love it. I love it. It's easier to keep it short. I think this is your look. We had an original draft of this Bob sketch on SNL.

We had your name in it. We did Leslie Bibbs and Jennifer Shager in it, too. You cut me out of the bobskin? No, it was because... Listen, you made it in a... instead of worst proud of two. You want to find. You're winning.

Why did you? Why did you? We showed that. I know you did. And I wanted to text you and be like, your name was, it was like, we answered a Leslie Bibb and Jennifer Shager. Because you had just gotten it. Who cut me?

No, like, it wasn't a, it was not a cut. It was like, it was between dress and arrows like, okay, we get to lose like a minute from this or whatever we had. I made it to the dress rehearsal. That's usually what Lauren steps in. That's when Lauren Steppson. That's when Lauren said, oh, no. the fuck is Ginobusch Hager.

I don't think many people know who Ginobush Hager is. Are you kidding me? Well, he knew about you back in the day when he used to make fun of your ass. I know. Do you know that Amy Polar played me? Yes. Do you but you but think of a guy of the president? Do you think it's taken a long

time to shake off the Captain Morgan and tequila thing? Because that's not fair. You never drink it that way. No, I didn't drink Captain Morgan and Tequila together. No, I mean... Captain Morgan. that there was a, I was a, there was some cover of a magazine that called me gin and tonic. Oh, come on.

Did you like that? I didn't really. No, of course not. When I was 19 and 20 years old, I did not like it. But I will say as a 44 year old, like, thank God I had parents that let me make mistakes, man. I was actually thinking about that the other day when I was thinking about, like, you were coming on the show and I was like, this is someone who, even I, as like a, you know, 10 year old. I knew who you were. And this is pre-social media, but like...

Which, thank God. Yeah, well, I was thinking about you with that, too. I was like, can you imagine if you were 18, 19, 19, 20, 21 years old when your father is the president and also, like, is a polarizing figure. And that gets transmuted to you. And all the media is harping on is, you know, wild child partying. And that had to be, were you shielded from that? or was it impossible to be? No, I was not shielded from it at all

because I was in college. Like there was nobody to shield me. You know what I mean? Right. But I think, no, I mean, it was definitely hard. I also think, oh, well, like people, like, if that's my, you know, resilience that I had to fight through, like, people have a lot worse and I mean that.

But also, it's like, you know, I think the media sort of held, like they kind of understood. I mean, Chelsea had it bad too. Definitely. And then by the time, and I'm glad, we, Malia and Sasha were there, there was this sort of like rallying crime. I mean, Barbara and I wrote a open letter in the Wall Street Journal, which basically was like, leave them alone. Yeah, they're young too. Let them be kids, but they were kids, kids.

Yeah. And then by the time the second, you know, then they were like in college, like we were. And I think, you know, I just think there has to be some sort of, we didn't choose it, you know. And in fact, when our dad told us he was going to run for president, we broke into tears. Did you like say, please don't? We said, you're going to ruin our lives, which we've apologized about. Yeah, but you know what? You have every right to say.

We told him he was going to lose. You genuinely thought he would. We were like, fine, you're going to lose. You can run, but you're going to lose. But I mean, that we, I think what it goes to say is like we had parents that wanted us to have a normal life. And people, when Barbara and I, like, walked down the street in New York, people are like, we love y'all. Y'all are so normal. And that, I think, is a compliment.

You know, we'd rather hear, like, y'all look great or whatever, you know. Y'all looks so great. But doesn't this give you, like, such great perspective with Milan Poppy and now? It's like, you. Well, I also just think all kids, like, you look at the pressure that's on teenagers now to go to the school or to, like, you know, do the thing or to make it in some way. and like get the great grades. It's like none of that really, at least in our house.

I'm like, I want happy kids who are kind. Like that's all, you know? And I think my parents did not, there was no rule book. Like when I went to like court when I got that minor in possession of alcohol, I wore like pants like this. I didn't know.

And my toe ring. And like nobody was like, you need to get dressed up because you're expected to be this person. It was like, no, you're yourself. And that includes making code of court. Toting it all. I mean, make mistakes.

And I don't know. I mean, it's not like, things could have been way worse. It's like. Yeah. Social media could have been a thing. At the time, it was not easy. But also, like, I have the thickest skin ever now. And I look back at that Amy Polar, Tina face good, and it's hilarious.

It is funny. Especially when you realize, like, it had nothing to do with you. No. Well, also, they're speaking in it, like, twin drunk language, which like Barbara and I only wish we could do. Do you know what I mean? And how different my life really is than how it was portrayed is also hilarious. I know, that is funny.

There was one time in college where we were watching Dawson's Creek and I get a call from Katie Holmes to come, she wanted to come and like shadow me. Oh, for first daughter? Wow. And I was like, you guys, she would be like, wow, your life is so lame. Katie Holmes. Like, oh, now you're going to the library to like stay up all night and write your English paper, you know? Like, I just was like, you don't want to come shadow me.

Yeah. We're not doing body shots on a Tuesday. So, no, I didn't call her back. So real, though, while you're watching Dawson's Creek. It was weird. That's crazy. It was weird. Like, I was like, guys, is this?

What's happening here? Wow. It was odd. Do you think that there was anything about, because obviously when you're, you know, you're in the public eye in that way, you did not choose. And then several years later, obviously, you choose to go on this path of being in the public eye. Do you think that that was a genuine interest and attraction to wanting to be on air and having that influence and impact? Or do you think a little bit of it was like, I actually want to correct a perspective that maybe they have on me? I mean, I don't think, like, I don't, who knows subconsciously?

Like, I would have to, like, really sit with, like, my shaman and go deep there. No, I think I was on the show for a book that I wrote. And then I wrote a book about the National Parks with my mom, and I was on again. And it was the executive producer kept coming to me. Like, I was like, no, I was a teacher. I was like, I love my job. And I taught in inner city, Baltimore. And it was honestly so hard that I was like, maybe I should go take this job interview.

You know, like what, and I was a little performer. Like, I wanted to be Baby Kazad and Les Mez, but I, like, couldn't sing, you know. I wanted to be, I wanted to be her performer. So I think, like, my sister's, like, it makes sense. You like to make people laugh. But I wouldn't, like, have pursued the job myself. But in a way, like, you already knew that you could be in the public eye. And this is a, this is like a modular thing where now it's on your terms, you know?

I mean, I think it has was helpful. that all of this happened when I was so young. Yeah. Because I do, other people are like, I read the comments. I would never read the comments. I have a really good way of like compartmentalizing my work and sort of the stuff that comes with it and like my actual life and the people that I love.

What's real. And, you know, and so there's, I don't get caught up in like that part of it. Do you know what I mean? 100%. I think this is the thing that like Mila, and the kids like should really go forward with not that you're not already doing this but I'm like you know what you know what like weirdly gets me is like the it's the performance now of like opening up your college acceptance is I know everything has to be like for the camera and everyone else and everyone else like they should like and then and it makes all these other people feel like terrible you know and it's so interesting because when we were in high school my sister won like the math competition in Dallas she was She is exceptionally smart, but she also, like, she missed one math problem on our SAT.

She was this incredible student. And I love to read. Other side of the brain. I had a different side of the brain. And I was funny and it was fine. And my parents did not compare us. Like, they weren't like, well, you know, if she did this. So Barbara gets this perfect score on the SAT.

And I read somewhere that Stanford has, like, a twin policy. That if one twin gets in, the other one gets in. Or they both Was that a real thing? Yeah. And they may still have it. But this was like, you know, in 2000, or one gets, you know, doesn't get in, the other one won't get in.

So I read this and I'm like, great news. Like, family, look what I read. I can ride Barbara's coattails all the way to Stanford. I can get into Stanford and still be myself. And it was like the opposite of the college admission scandal. My dad was like, hell no. Don't ruin Barbara's chances. Oh, no.

No. No. No. Like, but I think I was like, you're right. You're right. You know? And there was like in the early odds, nobody, I didn't care. Like she went to Gail and I went to the University of Texas and it did not matter.

You know? That's good though because honestly, that was that was not our experience. At NYU. I would say that when we were in high school, this was like peak millennial thing of like who's going to get into the best school. Yeah. Like I remember not one person in my entire. high school got into an Ivy League school and we all felt like well it's like equal parts like we're all duds so that sucks but also thank God not one of us is going to get in so that we all

feel like idiots comparatively yeah I don't know we didn't have like the social media to make it a thing there was no I also went to a big public high school in Austin you know like and it might have just been like their most people stayed local like there wasn't Barbara was sort of the outlier, you know? Well, a few years after we would go to school would become the prevailing narrative that you don't have to go to the school just because it's reputable and expensive. Well, but I feel like there is such pressure on children and on teens to like, for what, you know, like, it's like you guys found your best friends, like many of whom I know because of Matt has brought them. And like you found your family, you found yourselves, like that matters. Yeah. So your school choice

mattered. But I feel like the sort of rat race to excellence because it's all so public is like what is that for? Is it for finding your purpose, for finding your joy? Then like, sure. But if it's for like showing off that you got into this great school, it bums me out. Yeah. It's a bummer for me because it's like Asian immigrant parent or just those communities throughout the country, like at that time were purely about the achievement and the elitism of these things. And like now it just seems like it's writ large

and it's just sort of blown out for everybody. Yes. You know? Was that, did that feel hard? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Like, oh my God, I remember getting into NYU

and then going back, going to China to see family. And like, I was in the other room sleeping. And then like in the next room, there were like, my dad's side of the family. They all group farmers. most of them were uneducated and even they I ever hear I ever heard them saying well Bowen just gone to a school called NYU like NYU and it's not even that good it's not even like the top 10 schools or whatever and my heart's think I'm like oh it doesn't

even measure up to these people who like yeah didn't even get to go to college and like they must feel a certain way about it and I'm like oh right like this is glow it's a global thing where you like end up going to college within like this specific arrangement and it's also all branding. Yeah. But like also thank God you went where you went and you found your people and your passion. One of the new IVs, which is the way they were branding. Stop it.

School is like ours. Enough. So that we could feel attractive to people who, you know. It's so ridiculous. It was. It was ridiculous. But speaking of ridiculous, we're all about to go crazy. I don't know why it's this voice, but.

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a...

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. All right, this is I don't think so, honey. Wait, are you all timing me? Yeah, we're going to go first. Oh, good, good, good.

And then... You like, I'm like a star student. You are. So for all you star students at home, this is our segment where we take one minute to just tear something apart in culture that we don't agree with. And that's putting it mildly. I'm going to do something about Devil Wars Prada 2. It's my one problem with the movie. And I do want this question answered.

It is a little bit of a spoiler. So if you haven't seen Devil Wars Pruditue yet, you can skip my I don't think so, honey. And probably the minute or so after it. Okay, great. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, the end of the movie, The Devil Wars Brought a two. It's a scene with Anne Hathaway and Meryl Streep.

And Anne Hathaway now works for runway. And she puts something on the desk. And Merrill says, is there anything else? And then Anne Hathaway says, nope. And I just think, I don't think so, honey, that she didn't say, that's all. That's all. Why wouldn't you end the movie with that's all? And then I think.

30 seconds. And I don't think so, honey, if this happened. It must have been in the script. And either Anne was like, no, I think that's Merrill's line and didn't say it. I can see Anne Hathaway being like that. Or maybe Merrill was like, hmm, giving someone else my line in character. I don't know. But it didn't happen.

There was not enough. That's all in the movie. Otherwise, a perfect movie. I was just like, it was right there. We could have ended the movie with the iconic line. I don't think so, honey, that we didn't. not that I don't think so funny the movie because I do think so funny

just that part I don't think so long And that's one minute Don't you think That's how you do it I agree with you Although I bet Merrill saw it and was like Too cliche No

But it's so funny because I thought it was gonna end that way too I'm like sure well of course So then maybe this is a thing Where they expect the audience To get ahead of it Exactly And they are subverting the expectation

And it breaks the cycle of you You would think now that Andy is at runway She would inherit this thing and yet she's choosing to break this like. I agree. I just feel like had she said, that's all turned out and went away,

and you could have ended it on Merrill with that half smile that she did in the first movie. And I loved the last scene, the tracking away of them all in the three offices. How beautiful was that? I mean, the movie was fantastic. But that last scene was so, we said that.

I watched it with Savannah and Hoda and we said where you could see all of the people in the new, it makes you fall in love with why we live in the city. You know, I love a shot like that. Just like leaving the characters that we love in process because you know there's still, that was one of my favorite things about the way the movie Fire Island did. Oh,

that it was supposed to pull out. That it sort of the dock like that. I was like, oh, they're still there's fun. And I just loved that. And another thing I love from the movie was Emily Blunt goes, have you heard of Christmas?

Yes. I was like, that's my line. Do you think she heard of Christmas? No, I don't think she heard the album. Do you think she heard the album? And then she, I bet she,

She said she, she sent it to Elaine, Alian Brasch McKenna. Yes. She heard Jenna Bochager walk out the building. Yes. She went, let's get Jenna. You're the reason I am in the devil.

Anyway, Okay, this is Bowen Yang's. Where's my phone? Here, you want mine? Yeah, this is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so, honey. Is he ready with one? Yeah, it's going to be a bummer. It's going to be a bummer, but it's okay.

His back hurts even as he's getting ready to know. Oh, no, I'm afraid it's about his back. This is bonnier. I don't think so, honey. It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. What are the patches supposed to be doing? I don't believe that the skin is absorbing whatever the medicine is.

I think you got to take it by mouth. I think all medicine should be taken by mouth or IV. I think on the skin is kind of a sham. Sure, whatever. As long as there's an opening, as long as you're breaking through, you're puncturing whole. Oh. I don't think so, honey. Topical, topical anything.

analgesic, whatever. I think it has to, I have to ingest it in some way. It literally has to go into my veins. I've got too much dermis. The three of us have, too much dermis. The three of us have thick skins because of the hardships of life. And so my skin ain't taking it. You know what I'm saying?

And so I also am going to spend the next 15 seconds. 15 seconds saying, Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, please. Give me the lida cane over the counter. Orally, please. I'll take the oral option. Oro, oral, oral. Ow, out, out, out.

And that's one minute. Really good job. I do think, though, you might just need a good old shot. Shot in the back. What's the back shot? A cortisol? A little cortisone if there are a shot.

Can you tell Bowen he needs a back shot? I mean, but here's the thing. If you get a back shot, you're going to know why it is. What do you mean? Because if it's a muscle imbalance, the back shot won't help. Can you see my man, Jason?

I would love to see your man, Jason. You got to see my man, Jason. It may take four hours, but you will be fixed two days later. I have something on the books for next week, but this woman, she's in demand. No, you need to get it. Next week, you're going to be better. Exactly. You need Jason tomorrow.

Tomorrow. I booked her last week. Can you do it this evening? We're figuring it out. They don't come at night, these people. Jason will. Oh, my God. It feels like we're going to get Jason's information.

I'm going to pass Jason P.T. And then you got to see, then you got to see Dr. Denny. Jason P. Jason P.T. Don't you like how you save people? Yeah, he's very handsome, but he's wonderful. And more than that, I mean, he's married,

but more than that, he's going to fix you. To a guy or a girl? To a woman. Shit. Because he was married to a guy. It's kind of like, whatever. Six of one. Six of one and a half a dozen of what?

Six seven? I know. Which cliche are you? six of one six seven when six seven happened is when I was at today's show we were all trying to figure out what it was I know and then we just kept saying it

so we could kill it you know it's like when adults start saying it then the 10 year olds are like my mom is saying that and did it work at home? Yeah I think we killed it successfully thank you so much you're welcome for your service you're welcome if there's anything else I can do

for you let me know well we have an idea how but I don't think so honey now listen I feel like I'm just the prefaces I didn't know we were going to talk so much books, but it's in the book vein, so let's go. There we go. It's in the book vein. Let's go.

Okay, let's go. This is Jenna Bush-Haggers, I don't think so, honey, and her time starts now. Okay. I don't think so, honey. Why are we banning all these books, y'all? Including the wicked book! Why are we banning the wicked book? Why are we banning to kill a mocking bird?

Oh, come on. I posted a picture. I don't think so, honey, of my daughter reading the summer I turned pretty. And you know what people said to me? They shamed me. I don't think so, honey. Don't we know that kids can find all everything on YouTube.com? We can give our kids iPads.

We can give our kids' phones. But you're taking beloved by Tony Morrison out of our libraries. Guess whose job it is to make sure it's appropriate for your children? The librarians. They are trained. Now listen, I know I'm biased because my mother was a librarian. She had a cat named Dewey, named after the Dewey Decimal System. I do think we should name cats after things that belong in the library,

but I don't think we should be taking these books out. Leave it up to the librarians. I want my kid to read. Want to know why? Books start conversations. Know what we're not having enough of in this country? Conversations. I don't think so, honey.

And that's one minute. Wow. Wow. Realtry. That was sitting somewhere really deep. I love it. to come out. That's why I don't think so honey is a useful tool for American conversation. I bet honestly, I think if I was having a bad back, getting those types of things out, you know,

the body keeps the score. The body keeps the score. Well, you know, we're actually, we're holding all of our tension. I don't think so honey's in our back. A hundred percent. Or our hips. In our root chakra. In our root chakra. I mean, that did. I felt it come from my root. Soon they're going to ban books about the root chakra. Kids aren't even going to. You're banning things like the little engine that could. No. See, actually. I mean, it's at that point.

It's at that point. I mean, so I'm going to the Brooklyn Public Library gal on Wednesday and I wrote a little speech and I got emotional. I went to the library on Saturday, wrote my little speech. You wrote it in the library? Yeah, I had to be on the nose about it. But it was so wonderful. I was like, oh, look at this. There's like adult jigsaw hour.

There's maternity's Zumba. The libraries are the cornerstones of our community. and when people need a place that is warm to go and have access to books. Also, like, what are we thinking, y'all? We're giving anybody access. My kid can go to, like, you know, I don't know, chemistry and get on her little laptop and order shit from Amazon and not pay attention. But we're worried about the books that we house in our libraries.

And as we know, representation matters. And a lot of what they're taking out is, is necessary for people to see themselves. 100%. And librarians are not recommending things that are inappropriate to like seven or eight year olds. What are we doing? Also, what is inappropriate necessarily even mean? It's a goalpost that tends to move depending on what the people in power need and how they can

control people. So what's inappropriate is, by the way, debatable from the beginning, from before the beginning. Well, also, except to parents who are not the ones that are actually. banning the books. 94,000 books were banned last year in 2025. 92% of them were were bit by institutions like you know by NGOs by people that are like big movement. It's not a parent that's like hey my kid came home with this because you're the parent you can say hey how like we should be reading Charlotte's Web instead. Like that's our jobs. Of course. Like it like it assumes that there's like no

monitoring at any level for this thing but like libraries. Librarians are a amazing too. That's their job. And by saying we take these out, what we're saying is we're not empowering you to do your work. The libraries are so radical to the point that we've forgotten as a society how radical they are, which is you get free books and movies and resources and job job opportunities because of this free thing that everyone is entitled to. Exactly. It's amazing. You know, I was with Men Jen, this author who I love, who I love, who were Buccino, and she told me, Mingenli, and she told me that books actually made her brave. And she said, I'm so worried about kids not having access to books, because where does that

bravery going to come from? And also, it's not for nothing, but, you know, these parents that think I want to control everything that my kids are consuming, that's not the point of their life. I know. They are supposed to live their life. At a certain point, of course, like, you don't want your. child exposed to something harmful, but exposed to something different is a good thing. It creates empathy.

Yeah. I mean, I just, I, but also we're living in a time where like five and six year olds are getting on YouTube seeing anything. Yeah, I'm shocked with what people are okay with. Yeah, we're regulating books. Right. Yeah, no. But never a tech company.

What could be more inappropriate than what the president says on his social media every day? Right. Like what could be more inappropriate? Why are we not shielding that from like innocent eyes, quote? In a world where we are doing this like hierarchy of manners. Right. Like and morals. But like I, but like just I wrote about how like I was wandering the shelves of my library

at the age of 13 and I stumbled across the CD-ROM original Broadway cast recording of Wicked. And I took it home and it changed my brain chemistry. And I'm like I like the library is an important part of that story because it gives you a sense of place and time with the discovery of something. Yes. But now everything gets served up on our phones. I don't know. I don't remember where I was when I discovered this new singer that I like, which is fine.

It's just how it is these days. But like, God, it's like the original third space, blah, blah, blah. I'm not saying anything new. But it's just I think we, I think thank you for letting us talk about how I genuinely think libraries are like the most emotional thing for me and my community. I go. It's one of my favorite places to go in Brooklyn. It has some of the cleanest bathrooms in the whole city.

it's crazy. And that's something you can't count out. And there are interesting guys there. Who? Who? My favorite bit is to go to the,

my favorite bit is new bit is to go to the men's room and just point at the side and say, oh, that's where they are. And then I wink and I go in. That's where they keep them. You say it to all your friends that you're having dinner with.

That's my one bit and then my other bit is whenever you buy anything and they say the price, you just go. to the cashier. My favorite price. And they laugh every time.

Yeah, it works, right? Every time they laugh? Some people are truly mean people. So they don't laugh. I can't imagine. You don't get a laugh. Yeah, because then you know they're kind of laughing inside. Well, if they don't laugh, that's when I go,

and then they go, Wait, when y'all met, were you automatically besties? No. Oh. But it wasn't weird. It wasn't weird. It was just like, well, I, we knew of you the other person, but we went to this show together and I think there was like a bit of a status mismatch where Matt felt like I had

power over him. He was in the comedy groups already at NYU. And I wasn't. Are you not the same age? He's actually younger than me, but he. We're the same year in college. We're the same year in college. But he had auditioned for the comedy groups the first year and got on the impromed.

group and I didn't audition until my Well, that's because you were a track star. You were a track star. Delayed. Yeah. So then by the time I was auditioning, he had already gotten in the group and we sort of knew each other a little bit and then they cut me from the improv auditions and I thought Bowen maybe had a hand in that.

And I didn't. Did you have a hand in cutting out Jen and Bush Hager and the Bob skit? Maybe Bowen did cut both of us, Matt. But then the next day, the very next day I made it onto the sketch group and then I suddenly I was his equal. And he had to deal with that. Just like I was also cut. My whole award was cut out of the Los

Colcheristas awards. It's interesting tactic you're doing, which is you asked us about us. And then you kind of keep bringing it back to your award. I'm like, you know what I'm doing? It's actually why I'm here today. I'm hoping,

like have you already taped all of those? Those are all taped in the can. Do you want to give an acceptance speech right now? There's your camera, by the way. I'm an expert at knowing where it is. I'd like to thank you got to go, you're saying? Okay. Fine.

All right. So do you want to take us out with your acceptance speech? I'd really like to thank Bowen and Matt for the Today's Show Excellence in the Morning Award. Is that the name of it? Yes, you got it.

And now we're just going to say that this was so fun. I love y'all so much. You have to come back. I will come back whenever and y'all both have to come back to the show too. We are coming.

Oh, yes. And sometime in June. For the Los Colchalreisius Awards. I think June 17th, we're going to be there the day it comes out. The data show. So we're actually going to get to be on the 9 a.m hour and the 10 a.m. hour.

Oh, that seems like once Matt was on GMA and I got real mad at it. I understand why. It doesn't feel right. I went on GMA once and she goes, the fuck? It's rivaled her. I did. I'm like, you were a host on this show. It was before I was a host.

No, it was. No, because you want to know what? It was not. It wasn't. It was. We can look up the archival footage. You had been the host once. Let me say something.

It was, I know what it was because I was filming a piece of content with you for Rockefeller Santa. Oh, yeah. And then I said, and then someone was something and they go, okay, we just have to go because he has to go to GMA. And then you were like. It wasn't even GMA. It was GMA three. Holy shit. GMA 3

GMA 3. Thank you. This has been a joy of half. I love you so much. I'm obsessed with you. I love you guys so much. Oh, I can't wait for Kohela.

Kohela, you're coming. We end, and by the way, watch the morning program today with Jenna and Chanel. And I mean, love you. Love you. And we end every episode with a song.

What was the theme song when I was guest hosting? Because now it's different. I know, I can't remember. It was, What's the Today Show theme? Do you remember? I mean, I listen to it every day and I have no idea.

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