Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "More Sluts" (w/ Julie Klausner)

Episode Date: September 11, 2019

This week Julie Klausner (creator, writer, and star of Difficult People) joins Matt and Bowen to discuss the gay cannon, their favorite Broadway shows, the essential pieces of culture they never consumed, Julie being horror curious, and more!MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. I have some stuff to give back to you. Okay.

Me specifically? So listen. Oh, my God. So I love that you were late for our last episode, and I said, I'll get you back. And now I'm going to get you back. now I'm gonna get you back get me back here we go so here's I have just for the reader I want to let everyone know

Bowen texted me because his parents were coming into town his parents are famously you know his parents and he said I have to get rid of all my gay materials and I said okay I'll be a true friend to you and you can come over and you can give me your gay materials so I'm gonna give them back to you right now. In a rainbow lined zipper.

I got this at LA Pride. It is a, you know, a nicely sized gym bag with LA Pride all over it. It has a rainbow strap. Oh my God. Oh no, no, no, no, no. So here we have Cake Boy Magazine. Love Cake Boy Magazine. Now this stuff had to come to my apartment because Bowen was,

you were nervous about your parents seeing this? No, I wasn't. I'm not nervous about the conversation, but my mom was very intent on like cleaning, doing a deep clean of my new apartment. Right. And for her, like she was going to stumble on

all this like aggressively queer gay stuff. So yeah, I'm going to pass this around. So these materials are, they're pretty aggressively gay, this magazine Cake Boy. Cake Boy, yeah. Sean Santiago. Wonderful.

I'm going to give you all of these back. And then there's this little wicker basket. Full of phalluses. Full of your phallus toys. And now here's the thing. I was actually being a really, I was being very respectful of you and not going through them.

And then I decided to stop being respectful of you. I went through them. I don't mind that you went through them. But then there's one Levent bow tie. What is this? That's from Golden Globes when I wanted to buy a tie that matched my blazer.

So it's not necessarily sexual. It's not sexual. You thought this fancy bow tie was sexual. I thought this was like some role play stuff. I thought, okay, bow tie fantasy. Oh, that's a fun narrative. Our guest loves this. That's a funny narrative.

I love that. I might try that sometime. I'm going to have sex with a bow tie on one day. I think you should. That's a funny narrative. Our guest loves this. That's a funny narrative. I love that. I might try that sometime. I'm going to have sex with a bowtie on one day. I think you should. I think you should too. I actually got a chub thinking about it.

Whoa. Okay. About you having sex with a bowtie or about me having sex with a bowtie. I don't know, just in general.

Now, I'm scared to touch any of this and I haven't touched it. Well, they're all, I may, I always, always, always, whenever I store those things away,

I always clean, deep, deep, deep clean. Well, that's good. And soap and water is fine. Soap and water is fine. That's what I was told by the worker. Reader, soap and water is fine. Soap and water is fine.

So we've got four different kind of girths and sizes here. One of them is a trainer. That one's the trainer. Okay, this is a trainer. This is what you start out with. Yes, which I think is super manageable and super helpful. This one's fine. I think I've seen you perform with this one.

This is one for show. I bought most of these. We did Queer's Life at Joe's Pub. We did. I sang I Can Hear the Bells, and I sang it to, I directed it to, instead of Zac Efron, instead of Link, I directed it to a dildo. Great.

It was me sort of partnering, singing about my love and intimacy with these toys. This one is so big. I haven't been able to crack that one. Yeah, come on. Literally, yeah. I mean, this is cuckoo. Oh my God.

Anyway, this is too much. It's not too much. Well, I, okay, all right. Is it too much for you? It's not too much for me. Is it too much for our guest? No. Okay.

She's enjoying it. She's fucking loving it. Our guest is a true gay icon, so she understands the culture. Of course, of course. What's this that I have in my hands? That is a douche bowl. Okay, understands the culture. Of course, of course. What's this that I have in my hands? That is a douche bowl. Okay, cool.

So, you know, but now the whole community has gotten behind this idea that too much douching is bad. Right, I think it can ruin the place. It tenderizes the tissue there too much. Okay, cool. So then we're going to. Well, thank you for giving this back to me. More sparingly. And then there is one thing. Some prints of these like fun little, you know, vintage book covers. I kind of love this. Okay, cool. So then we're gonna, we're gonna, thank you for giving this back to me. Oh, and then there's some prints of these

like fun little, you know, vintage book covers. I kind of love this. Mr. Queen. And then that's, well, then that's covering up something

else behind the glass. What's behind the glass is a Born Gay, Born to be Gay by J.X. Williams. I mean, this can't be real books. Fear drove,

I don't know. Fear drove him into the third sex shadow world. Is that what they called it back then? That seems like propaganda to me.

Yeah. But all the men are really handsome. The men are handsome. I mean, one of them has a fucking knife out. What is this? Like there's like, it's true.

I think there's a lot of this sort of like, you know, well, he's got a knife out. So he's giving you masculinity, but he's also giving you a face. That's like, hi,

like he is extraordinarily gay. We'll post pictures of this. We'll post pictures of this, but it's like, it's like what, like, it seems like the narrative is that he's like at the navy and for born to be gay with the the man with the knife out under that these two are gonna hook up these two are gonna hook up but uh but born to be

gay the cover of that is a man being chased a man in a blazer being chased by three blue collar brooklyn navy yard types from way back in the day when that was like the spot and so that i think that's the narrative there which you know what it's it's historical accuracy and i don't i don't mind that at all do you want the bag I would I can take the bag take the bag

because also not for nothing but you're gonna be going to the I've seen pictures of you because I'm on your close friends on Instagram and I've been posting

a lot of she's been up in the gym and she looks good I've been posting a lot of a lot of slutty little thirst traps and I live so close to my gym

I can just walk in there in my little my little shroud and she's been looking good too oh please this is what I've been talking this is what I wanted to talk about up top really quickly go on so close to my gym I can just walk in there in my little shroud. She's been looking good too. Oh please. This is what I've been talking this is what I wanted

to talk about up top really quickly. Go on. Our last guest Katie Ruth Ashcroft just left and we got on the topic about you never forget

your first guy to party with a guitar. Yes. Thank you for bringing this up. Who was yours? Mine was I'm sorry I rhetorically asked you

who yours was but can I Because you're not interested in my answer you want to say. I just really quickly want to who yours was. Because you're not interested in my answer. I do want to know. But I just really quickly want to get mine out. Jason Lucas.

Full name even. Jason Lucas. He was very much like a Zac Efron high school musical narrative. There was that narrative behind him where he was on the lacrosse team

and our musical theater director had to convince him to be the lead in Crazy For You, the Gershwin Jukebox musical. I had to be convinced. And it was this big moment where he was like,

yes, I'll do it. He crossed over into the grubby theater world of our high school and then was great and now he's a photographer. I love that for him. And he's lovely.

Happy that he found an artistic pursuit. Absolutely. And that theater teacher is to thank. Sure, Miss Wood, no. But we've talked at length about how much I dislike her.

But Jason was the heartthrob of the school. His whole thing was Jason Mraz songs. He was obsessed with Jason Mraz, and that was a little troubling. This reminds me, I wish that the guitar boy in our high school, who was my friend, his name was Trevor LaCarros, I wish he was into Jason Mraz, because that would have been applicable to me. You would have latched on to it yeah

he played a lot of like fish and then one time at a cross country party he started to play Kelly Clarkson since you've been gone and I was like okay let me just turn my because I had been wanting to masturbate to him you know what I mean like I he

had all the tools and I was like please just like get crossover with one of my interests. And then it was such a bad rendition of Since You've Been Gone that I was like, here's the thing about these guitar guys. It's like, they whip out the guitar and you're like, okay, cool, I'll entertain this. And then every rendition is bad. These guys aren't musicians. They just have a guitar.

Sure, sure, sure. So sorry, Trev. Sorry, Trevor. You didn't get any of this. You didn't masturbate to him once? I did a lot your imagination can fill in the gaps imagine him doing a good rendition since you've been gone

my taste which hasn't changed here's the thing about our guest has the best taste I'm working with her now I know I was gagged. Every day is a beautiful, beautiful lesson.

Every day is a beautiful glimpse into like a true great mind, I think. God, I mean, okay, quick credits run down. Rolled down. Difficult people. Fucking creator, star, writer. And how was your week? Podcasting pioneer icon icon I would say and then

you know wrote some of I'm just gonna bring this up because I think it's truly one of my favorite SNL sketches Chris especially one of my favorite Christmas SNL sketches which is Christmas time for the Jews they had to they shot that like in the summer like months before

claymation essentially real culture months before claymation especially rural culture number 44 claymation um hello hello i just i just love our guests so so so so much um and so please welcome into your ears julie klausner hi i'm so excited to be here did you deal with a lot of like guys with guitars in your life? I feel like they would love to impress you with a serenade. I went to one drama club party. It was when I Frenched for the first time. And we all watched Heather's. Yes.

And yeah, there was some acoustic guitar. But it was very pre, you know, generationally like pre-Moraz. Yeah. I mean, what were we getting at that time? Like if someone's whipping out a guitar, they're playing, like... Oh, you know... More than one.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, sure. Tom Chapin, like, All My Life's a Circle, like, that kind of thing. Yeah, it's great. Very crunchy and gray. Crunchy and gray. Now, where did you fall into the drama club cast system?

C-A-S-T-E. I was gonna say Abyss. I didn't get the lead lead so I dropped out immediately. Good for you for knowing to get out of there. I mean, Jordan Peele, get out. Get out. Now, was this, okay, walk me

through, Scarsdale? Yes. Okay, Scarsdale Drama Club. What is that? I'm so endlessly fascinated with that specific social thing. Guys with drama club. What is, what is that? What is that? I'm so, I'm so endlessly fascinated with that specific social thing. Guys with fedoras

and like longish hair. Yeah. And a lot of fish like you were mentioning. A lot of Birkenstocks. Yeah. A lot of SUVs with like

grateful dead bears on them. I don't, I don't hate any of that. Hackey Sacks has a leisure activity. I don't hate any of that. Yeah, a lot of Hackey. Frisbee, they loved

Frisbee. They called it Ultimate for whatever reason. Ultimate. Ultimate. Yeah, because I think Ultimate Frisbee is what some people would call even a sport. But then you actually drop the name of the thing. Yeah. And you just call it Ultimate. I mean, that's

beautiful. But see, okay, but this does not because we've talked a lot about your Long Island High School flavor, and that never appealed to me. This all sounds good to me. Yeah. Yeah, there's a little bit more polish. It's a little bit, I guess, more Ethan Allen and less West Elm, maybe. I don't know.

Is that snotty? No, it's actually accurate. That's accurate. I don't know. Is that snotty? No, it's actually accurate. That's accurate. I don't know. Maybe Crate and Barrel. I mean, even Crate and Barrel is like a little like,

who went to Crate and Barrel? It's from Crate and Barrel. It's not Ikea. Her Bloomingdale's are sacks. Like the department stores are the OG. They're like the, you know,

the father, son, the Holy Ghost. Right. Well, can I try one out? Scarsdale is Ethan Allen and Long Island is Jennifer Convertible. Depends on which part of Long Island. Truly. So I try one out? Scarsdale is Ethan Allen and Long Island is Jennifer Convertible. Oh!

Depends on which part of Long Island. Truly. So I'm from the South Shore, so we are Jennifer Convertible. You guys are Jennifer Convertible. Absolutely. This reminds me of a Cola Skoll, a character named Jennifer Convertible.

And he has a line in a script where he solves a murder, solves a crime or something. And then someone, and then someone, and then he has someone in the audience read or something. And then someone, and then someone, and then he has someone in the audience read opposite him. Yeah. And then the line is,

but Jennifer, how did you figure it out? And then he ends it with, he works for Ikea, Robert. So I put the pieces together myself. And also, of course,

the villain in that story is a woman named Ikea. Oh, is it? Yes. Brilliant. Well, I don't know my Kola Skola too well. Do we think Kola Skola is brilliant?

I mean... Yes! Yes, okay. Let's have a discussion about it. I'm like, talented. Talented. One of our favorite people in the world. He really understands why women are funny.

Like, how women are funny and broken women. The specificities of the springs that are loose and the cogs. And he combines that with really understanding like how, you know, bad writing can be really funny. Or good bad writing. Or just knowing all the tropes but also knowing people. And he's just, he's so fabulous. The apex for me has to be the Sunny D. Oh, yeah, yeah.

The, what does he call it? The mom. Happy, happy orange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the puka shells. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like that piece to me is. He's great at moms.

Great at moms. Great at moms. But the example of like bad writing made good for me, the moment that sticks out for me is, and we can get off, we can stop talking about Cole. Yeah. But his, he we can get off, we can stop talking about Cold Face. But his, he sometimes,

he'll open, sometimes, for a while, he would open up his character sets with a light stand up and he'd be like, so I was just in Europe

and the only thing Europeans hate more than Trump is having sex with a man. It's like, it's like such a, it's such a dumb,

funny joke he is cold he is cold anyway Julie how's your summer going it's horrible I hate it oh I despise it

everything's falling apart what's like the what's your escape then I have none film and television okay great there you go

and food but yeah no the humidity I mean it's boring it's boring. It's boring. My rosacea, yeah. Yeah, you can't talk.

The thing is like all you can talk about is the weather because it's like unusually bad. No, it's important. And then you feel like boring for talking about it, but it's like, no, we have to call out a crisis when we're in one. If we all had swine flu, we'd be talking about it. Like everyone's sick unless you're, I don't know.

Yeah. Unless you're not interested in the people that are like, it's summer, baby. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Unless you're not interested in the people that are like, it's summer, baby. Like, I don't know what they're like. Somebody, I think Louis Vertel Snidely once tweeted like. Wait, Louis Vertel Snidely tweeted something? I love Louis Vertel. Yeah, the best.

But like he one time tweeted like, like it's the, something to the effect of like boring people say summer sucks and like, like why would you prefer fall? I was like, this is clearly someone

that's never spent time in the New York tri-state area. It's like, it is uninhabitable here and you live in Los Angeles, bitch. So it's like,

I just wanted to mention that I think Louis Vertel is a true wit. Oh, the best. I'm in awe of his and his turn of phrase and yeah,

I didn't want to just be snarky no no no not give him the props he deserves I mean he's brilliant oh god Cole and now Lewis really

I'm sorry should I stop mentioning is this gonna become a supportive podcast I can't fucking leave this we'll change the subject no I will say this one of the fastest people

I've ever met Lewis yeah like like truly like yeah like it'll just happen. And it's just like, oh, that was like a perfect joke. And it's just, it just happens out of nowhere. Right.

Right. Right. But, but filth human being, I mean. Nasty, dirty, mean. So great in every way. Perfect. Oh, I love gay men. I really do.

Who's your favorite gay man? Go. My friend, Nate. Nate. My best friend, Who's your favorite gay man? Go. My friend, Nate. Nate. My best friend, Nate. Yeah.

He was in P town for bear week last week and he was squid fishing and he got inked and he sent me a photo of his face with all this like black. It looks like black jizz. It looks like, it looks like the Babadook came on his face. Yeah. I love that. Um,

no, he's, he's the best. So he's your, he's the number one. I love face. Yeah. I love that. No, he's the best. So he's the number one. Have you done P-Town? I love him. Yeah. I mean, I haven't performed there,

but I've spent time there and it's so fun and I really do love it. And I know it's like, I just can't be like snarky or snide about it. It's just such a special, magical place. You and John Waters both like have this genuine, unadulterated love.

Have you not connected with it or not been? I just haven't been. We actually have not been. I've been to the gay spots I've been to include Fire Island and Palm Springs. I feel like I have to complete the triumvirate of like... You should do a show there. You would be a hit.

I mean, some of the comedy shows there are like Dina Martinez is amazing. And like, yeah, no, you should definitely do that for next summer. Yeah. I always love what they have like runs of

like I think Trixie Mattel had her show run there it's great you'll love it yeah and also like we went to Disney World

a couple years ago and Dave Mazzoni our friend looks around and he's like it's like P-Town here on Main Street USA I'm like

do you remember that we were very high he did say that he was like it's like P-Town here on like Main Street USA in Disney World. That's amazing. Yeah, but hey.

But hey. What's this? Can we clock this on the pod? This New York Dermatology Group water bottle? So I'm not giving you guys a selfie today because I got like a chemical peel. Great. So I'm going to do a selfie with you tomorrow at work

and then we'll Photoshop. We're going to Photoshop. You can find the most flattering not that you take an unflattering yeah but yeah I got yeah a little bit of this a little bit of that a little bit of dogs a little bit of cats yeah a little bit of this a little bit of that

a little bit of dogs a little bit of cats a little dance a little seltzer down your pants wait speaking of cats I think did you guys talk about the trailer yes we must now we've been talking about cats as a recurring theme on this show for like the past year and a half.

It's bizarre because, on your show? On this show, it's just like, randomly guests will end up having anecdotes about cats and it's like, what is going on?

And now I'm realizing like, neither of us have ever seen it. We've never seen it. Have you seen it on, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Do you like it?

I love it. Okay, great. So talk, talk us through your first impressions with the trailer. It was one of my earliest. Oh, the trailer? Well, the whole holistic thing. Well, I just want to say about this show,

it was one of my earliest memories. Great, great. I remember my mother leaving me at preschool. And I remember being in the audience. I was probably five. I was five because i remember it was my birthday and like i think it opened in 82 and i was five in like 83 so i remember being in like one of the first few rows and having you know the actresses like actors come out from the

the back of the house and they interact with you and one of the you know actresses oh no i that would be a different you know know. A road not taken. Yeah, exactly. They have those huge dance belts, which always intimidated and intrigued me as a young lady watching The Nutcracker. But in my first performance at Cast Lake, this actress came over and, like, she touched my arm.

Yeah, they can touch you. She stroked my arm, and I looked down, and I saw she was wearing a fingerless glove and she had chipped orange fingernails and I remember thinking, oh my God, that's a real person

and she's a really cool chick. Yeah. She reminds me of my cool babysitter, Dana and I just remember thinking this is the best night of my life. Wow.

I just was thrilled beyond compare. And did you feel like at that time you could follow like a story or like you knew what was happening? Or is it kind of just like the spectacle of it all? And it's like we're watching Cats.

The great news is that Cats has no story. We love that. Yeah. It's just Cats singing about other cats. So what will they do with the movie then? That's what I'm, yeah. Oh, boy. Like what will happen?

What are your impressions on the trailer that is Cats? It's shocking. Like there's, I mean, it's one of the, it's like, it's like Trump. It one of those it's like it's like Trump it's like it's not even funny yeah no it's hard people are like Trump must be great for comedy

you're like just let me stop bleeding yeah get me out of here and that was what the trailer was to me I was just my jaw dropped

I was just I was just horrified right away and like it only got worse I mean as it went it did get worse but I will say this

you will see it oh opening night if I don't get it went, it did get worse. But I will say this. You will see it. Oh, opening night. If I don't get invited to the premiere, which I probably won't. No. Well, let's campaign. Let's start the campaign here and now is to get Julia to the world premiere. How sad would that be if, like, all of my invites now came from, like, Facebook groups. Like, 300.

Yeah, 300 strong. 300 strong for Julia to be invited to like, you know, like the season two premiere of Losa Spooky. It's like previously attainable comedy social goals. But yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah.

I think my favorite thing about the trailer is pretending we live in a world where like Jennifer Hudson is older than Judi Dench. Oh, it's like Jennifer Hudson is Grizabella. And also, I'll say this. I'll bravely say this. The performance of Memory that I heard in that trailer, I hope it's one of those

situations where it's like that's not the performance because I wasn't feeling that vocal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just so far. I'm still like digesting it. I can't even like

separate the elements. Yeah, I remember you tweeted about it and you were like leave me alone right now. I was just like please respect my privacy. Yeah, yeah. I remember you actually, you tweeted about it and you were like, leave me alone right now. I was just like, just like, please respect my privacy.

Yeah. Yeah. You got a. I'm still digesting. And I mean, it's just, I mean, I don't even know what to say.

I just, I have these feelings. It might be an ad for the Lion King. Honestly, I saw the trailer before. It might be an ad for the Lion King. Cats are having a moment. Sure.

Big cats, small cats. Small cats. Human sized cats. Scale, like cats that like, the wrong scale. There's no way that those celebrities knew it was going to end up looking like that, right? I don't know. Like, they probably showed up, got into the green unitards with the ping pong ball attached,

did their part, and then said, all right, see you at the premiere, and it'll be amazing, because that guy did Les Mis, where he was obsessed with, like, live singing. Remember that? Of course. It was. Remember that realistic looking. And they said, all right, see you later. And when that trailer dropped,

I just picture Taylor Swift with her yogurt or whatever. Yeah. Being like, oh my God, because she's also sort of unrecognizable in the trailer. Yeah. I didn't know that was her until they said it was her. And I know that there was a call that was like,

can you get my name off of the poster? Wow. I don't know. I don't know. i feel like i like if i'm one of the actors i'm thinking like well it's been like fully 10 11 years since avatar and avatar looked like cool i guess so maybe they'll make this look cool like that but it fully looks like uh like an instagram filter where it's like turn me into a cat. That's what it looks like. And let me just say, Avatar looked like shit back then. It looks like shit today. Yes. And Cats looks like Avatar

completely. I feel like, I guess I feel like you would like totally animate it, right? But this is like, that's Jennifer Hudson's face

in an Instagram filter. It's digital fur technology. Digital fur technology. The thing I'm excited about is at least it's a big swing and I love big swings and big flops.

Not that it'll flop financially. I don't know anything about that world, clearly. But like, I'm just saying that like it's a, it'll be a phenomenon.

Oh, but yes. And that's exciting because no one wants like a, you know, a queef in the wind. Like you want like a big disaster. Yeah,

that's exactly right that's always like like i was watching that documentary about alan carr who produced the 1989 academy awards with snow white and and rob lowe in the opening and that to me and you should watch it's 11 minutes and it really is a crash and burn on this royal scale and and those are really the spectacles that like mark time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

it's not fun if they take, if things just like barely happen. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's like, I find that with a lot of these big movies that come out now,

like, it's like they come out and then they're gone. It's like, give me a fucking moment. Like, remember like, I remember when Disney would release a movie in the late nineties. Like I remember distinctly when

pocahontas came out there was like a huge concert that was like vanessa williams singing in like an 800 foot gown and she sang colors of the wind and leaves flew around and it was like you know i i guess we're getting kind of close to it with like they they eventized lion king a little bit and i just saw lion king King but it was like I don't know I feel like with these movies now there's so many tentpoles they just kind of happen and then they're gone

like Spider-Man Far From Home like happened and then it was gone and that's because there's so much right the news cycle yeah like just people stop

talking about something after a week no matter what it is totally which is like why I love these end of the year musicals like in the same way that you're saying

it's like Cats is already an event oh yeah this is already a cultural event and I was just saying in the same way that you're saying it's like Cats is already an event oh yeah this is already a cultural event and I was just saying in the last episode like these women

next to me who by the way narrated the whole Lion King which I would have it no other way they fully were like the trailer happened

and the one girl goes to the other look what they have Jennifer Hudson wearing watch this and they watch it and they're cracking up laughing and then they go

well now we know what we're not gonna see and I turned to them and I said you'll be there I'll be there we'll all be there and they started laughing

because we all knew it was true we were all going to see Cats we're all gonna go see it I love that you made friends at a movie theater oh well I mean if they didn't want

attention then that was unclear because they wanted attention I once sat next to British ladies at brunch and they said, these pancakes are mental. No, British people with their breakfast foods, I'll never forget.

These pancakes are mental. And I remember one time I was like 16, like working in a seafood place and we served breakfast and these British people were like, do you have preserves? And I was like, the fuck is a preserve? Not knowing that could ever be jammed. I had a red lobster.

Can you imagine being like, well, I can't just have clotted cream on my scone. What are you, what are you, mental?

I need preserves. You need to, you both need to start watching Love Island. You both need to start watching Love Island. It's something that gets said to me a lot.

It's phenomenal. Are you a Bachelor person or anything? I am not, but I did watch one season. Right. I like The Bachelor because there's so many female characters. Yes. The Bachelorette is a nightmare. The Bachelorette is a nightmare.

That's just, I mean. Iconically, Julie is a housewife's person. Oh, I'm so glad. I mean, and I'm sorry, like as vulture recappers, me and Matt, I mean, I feel like you set the model for like comedian recapper for a TV show. That was fun.

That was fun. But are you a Vina Perl rules person? So this is going to sound so snotty. And I feel bad for anyone I alienate by saying this. But after Trump won, I stopped watching all of it. Any of Bravo. I get that. And I don't mean to be like judgment.

I'm certainly not judgmental of other people that love it. I certainly did. But like, I just can't hang out. I can't watch and spend company with people that aren't very smart right now. It's just not funny to me right now. I hear you. And also there's something to, I think as a,

honestly like, yeah, that's so interesting because post the Trump thing is when I got into it and I think it's because I was like, it's fully escapism for me.

It's like a fully opposite reaction I'm having to it. Absolutely. But you watch it now and all I can think about is, okay, well, Luann and Sonia clearly voted for Trump. Absolutely, absolutely. But you watch it now and all I can think about is, okay, well, Luann and Sonia

clearly voted for Trump. Well, they said they did. Ramona, yeah. They did. By omission. Ramona says she didn't vote, which to me might, either means she didn't

or she voted for Trump. If one of them voted for Trump, then it was definitely Ramona. And like Bethany, Hillary, Bethany, Dorinda, maybe Tinsley

are like the only people who are like. No, no, no. Okay, so this is what, this is literally, Andy like the only people who are like this is literally Andy Cohen asked the question of them at this New York reunion and it was who voted for Hillary? Dorinda, Bethany and Carol

proudly raised their hands and then he goes okay so did you vote for Trump and the rest of them wouldn't raise their hands they were just like we don't want to talk about it and that was Luann Ramona and Sonia, which so reads. And then Tinsley was like, I didn't vote. And they swing to Tinsley.

I was going to guess that Tinsley didn't vote. They swing to Tinsley and they're like, you didn't vote? She was like, yeah. And they were like, where are you registered? And she's like, Florida. I thought she was going to say Harry Winston. Yeah. Where are you registered?

Harry Winston. Harry Winston. But she was like, she literally was like, I'm not a political person. I remember this. Yeah, right. Harry Winston. Harry Winston. But she was like, she literally was like, I'm not a political person. Yeah, I remember this. I remember this. And it was just this moment

they started scoring it. Yeah, I can't, I just can't do it anymore. And again, like nothing but respect for Andy Cohen I think is brilliant. Yeah, I mean,

he's so good at what he does. Just like a ringleader of a postmodern age. But yeah, it just, and it wasn't like a decision. It just was a switch in my brain. Totally.

You know, he won and I started re-watching all these movies that I loved. You know. So at least it pushed you in that direction, which is nice. And also like, movies that you've seen are my favorite kinds of movies. Like whenever I'm browsing on Netflix, I'm like, oh, this is a good category. And it's always like, watch it again.

Because you know how they end. 100% know how they end. And I hate to, you know, connect everything to, oh, this is a good category. And it's always like, watch it again. Because you know how they end. 100% know how they end. And I hate to, you know, connect everything to the election, but there is some like, you know, finite, like, taste based identity that you have to like marinate in a little in order to lick your wounds. Oh my God, that's so real. That makes 100% sense to me. And I

didn't know it about myself, but I think you're right. Like, I will watch Clueless 5,000 times a year. Absolutely. And I watched it with a bunch of like i watched it in palm springs i was like a bunch of gay man lewis was there and we were all just reciting it as it was going and it was the most fun thing about the vacation people used to do that in church you know and that's actually is my religion and i am allowed to say that oh no it's a good one yeah but knowing all the words

and having that community and having something that you worship and that you have like comfort from I mean it's a blessing and also that movie is perfect

but that is that is not a this is not a what Julie just said about like needing like a taste centered identity in order to like

lick your wounds from this like traumatic world experience is like that's this is a recent thing that I've been, I've talked to you about this, where I'm just playing cultural catch up with,

and Julie and I are in this room all the time talking about old movies, things that I have not seen, and I'm just like, I need to, it's an imperative that I'm making in my brain to watch and consume these things because it's a part of what, Culture is. Yeah, it's a imperative that I'm making in my brain to watch and consume these things because it's a part of what like,

yeah, it's a part of culture, but it's, it's kind of part of what we all do is to like reference these things. It's also like, I mean, gay men, like you look at like Vito Russo who like established the canon.

He would have screenings on his roof of Betty Davis movies because it was very important to him that the gay community, you know, got community, you know, got their, you know, ate their vegetables and went to school. Like it was just very- The children have forgotten. The children have forgotten.

Absolutely. And I just, I think that there is something to canon. Yes. And, you know, it's just nice to have a, you know, even though like everyone, gay men, like it's fun to, you know, insult each other. Like it is a real community and it is like culturally like that,

you know, we have this great book club, the secret book club. A hundred percent. I mean, I think Joel Kim Booster recently said like, well, like in any sort of like little drama that happens amongst a group of gay

friends, like in the grand scheme does not fucking matter. Like we would all kind of like have each other's backs anyway. And there is this kind of like language. Yes. Whereas lesbians World War III. Literally, if lights aren't out at nine, we're fighting. We're fighting.

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Because I know my answer. I think I have many answers to this, but I have one that's informed by Julie, I think. Oh, really? Because mine is Rosemary's Baby. I know how much you fucking love Rosemary's Baby. I love it, Bon. It's good.

It's good. You are Ruth Gordon in that movie. Oh, Ruth Gordon is so fabulous in that movie. I am her winner. But who's the guy? I think you've said that he's like the top villain. Yes, the worst villain of all time. Yeah.

Explain this again. Like, he's just. I don't want to because you haven't seen it. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I'll see it, I'll see it, I'll see it. You gotta see it. She spits in his face at one point. And it is I'll see it. You gotta see it. She spits in his face at one point

and it is like the only triumph because it's a horror movie so it's an unhappy ending. Sure, sure. But when she does that which is low I mean you see people

kick guys in the balls or slap them but spitting in the face is the worst thing you can do. It's in his face and it is epic. I love that. And he deserves

so much more and also that Mia Farrow the children have forgotten and must remember because the fact of the matter is those performances those horror performances

you have to respect that kind of thing like Toni Collette recently did it in Hereditary where it's like the kind of how difficult it is to discover

something that terrifies you and like after imagine being an actress reading a script and being like, okay, cool. And then like that, that's not actual surprise

on that screen. That is a tough thing to act. And Mia Farrow is in a state of constant, realistic, grounded disbelief and horror for such a long time.

And that is a, the children have forgotten a legendary performance. And a survivor. Talk about a survivor. Oh yeah. And in real life as well survivor and fragile

yeah yes truly but oh my god in Hereditary yeah you're right like just I imagine Toni Collette

reading it in the script like she discovers that her daughter's beheaded yeah and like that scream because you don't see it it's off

have you seen Hereditary no but I heard I mean oh yes you're horror but I heard, I mean, Oh yes, you're horror curious. I'm sure I'm horror curious. I like to read The synopses, yes. The synopses of horror movies

on Wikipedia, but I can't actually watch them. You and Matt are the same. See, I'm the same. And like, even like the It 2 trailer just came out. And I know, I know it has like Jessica Chastain

who I would love to watch act in anything. And I know there's like a great trailer featuring her. And I'm like, I can't. Is it scary? Is the the trailer scary the trailer is horrifying oh yeah i saw it i saw it i literally was buying i was buying food at the um like deli on my corner the other day and the guy goes to me he never speaks to me he goes yo i just watched the it 2 trailer i was like is it so scary he was like it's the scariest thing ever thing ever. We just bonded over how we weren't going to see it.

You're men. You're men. You're men. Let me tell you something. That only goes so far. Wow. Pop culture, baby. I mean, come on.

It's the glue. But you must see Rosemary's Baby because you could turn a great Ruth Gordon. You could do some good Ruth Gordon drag. Okay. Rosemary's Baby is a good companion to the original Stepford Wives. Oh!

Have you seen that? Not the original. It's basically the original Get Out, but with women. Totally. Genius, genius, genius. And Catherine Ross

is stunningly beautiful. And she also gives a fabulous performance where you could see her, the same thing with Toni Collette, you could see her flutter an eyelash

and you know play like the small moments those little things that are like that are like wow like you have the rewinding but that is

and the remake of it truly is like garbage so don't go there I remember being a little kid and watching and watching that movie and even watching the trailer

I remember seeing that trailer in the theater well it was Nicole in her prime and I was just like I was like in her prime. And I was just like, I was like, and this is- In her Amazon prime.

In her Amazon prime. In that moment of her prime. Totally. If you booked her, she'd be there that afternoon. Yeah, truly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same date delivery.

Tech avail. I know. Tech avail. Constantly. Get me out of my house. A hundred percent. That was her like post the other Moulin Rouge moment

where she was like a mainstream star in a real way and she was taking jobs yeah right but I just

it's this thing that we've talked about on the show lately where it's like as your kid it imprints on you you don't know why you're responding to it

but like exactly step of wise I was like there's something about this that I love yeah but that's

but mine is Rosemary's Baby what's yours I mean I'll get murdered but it's the sound of music. Oh, right. I've never seen the sound of music. Yes, it's okay. Have you seen Cabaret?

Yes. Then you're fine. Well, I also grew up, maybe this is you too, but I grew up in a funny girl house. Uh-huh, yeah. My mom's a huge Barbra Streisand fan as well. It's not a dichotomous thing though.

But it's what filled that niche for me. You know what I mean? Like it was like Funny Girl was what was on all the time and your parents raised you right you're good

you're good you're good and like I was I think Chris I was talking I was like talking to Chris Schleicher about how I hadn't seen Sound of Music

he's like well you should and I'm like I'm not gonna watch it now if I watch anything now it will be the Carrie Underwood version so I can laugh you're not gonna watch it ever though

that's what that's what have you seen Mary Poppins? Yes. Okay, so you know Julie Andrews is fabulous. We know that she's in the life.

She's brilliant. I prefer her in Mary Poppins because she's sort of a dom in that. Yeah, she's a dom. She's a dom. And she's very vain and I really like that

better than the kind of She's too sub and kind of lame. I mean, it's Americana. Yeah. You know, it's how to make an American quilt. There you go. It's how to make an American quilt. There you go.

It's how to make an American quilt. Sort of. Are you saying that you're intentionally never going to see Sound of Music now? It's long, Bowen. And that's my problem with things now. Like Julie was saying before, it's like I don't want to watch something new

that's going to take up a large chunk of time. I think that's why we're seeing television pop off in this way and even shorter and shorter episodes of things because it's like there is so much. It's not one of four event movies to come out in a year. And I know that what its cultural impact is. So I'm good.

Fine. I have like holes in my like Orson Welles and like a lot of like 70s stuff. Like I never saw like Midnight Cowboy. And I, you know, feel bad about that. But like I'll start to watch Easy Rider and I'll be like, I just can't do it. Like it's just, yeah. Unless I'm like baking at the same time.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Things that can be on in the background. I guess. But then if, and then if it's on the background, why not a podcast? Or why not, for me right now, Housewives? Yeah. It's like that kind of deal.

Yeah. I guess you could say you're enriching yourself culturally by watching these films of the 70s when cinema was cinema. It's all very mask. It is mask. It's very mask. But not mask with Cher.

Right, not mask with Cher. Wait, I would literally, it's so funny that you say that. Mask for mask with Cher. Mask for mask. Oh my God. Just two people who will enjoy that movie. Yes. Oh my God. That's the new mask for mask mask for mask oh my god just two people who will enjoy that movie yes

oh my god yes that's the new mask for mask that's the new mask for mask beautiful idea it's actually

roller coaster number 11 mask for mask but yeah no I was recently so a lot of these like Lewis actually I think created this

but he was like a lot of these Lewis a lot of these gays Lewis was the first person who ever asked me who's in your coven? Uh-huh.

So coven is like five actresses that you can recall and bring to mind whether or not they were important in your life or they conjure something up about your essence and connect to them in a way that you can't really explain. And my friend Jared was trying to figure out what his coven was,

and I was like, don't take this any which way, but I think Cher might be in your coven. And he was like, oh, I don't know. And I'm like, see, but like Cher to me is like earthy, fiery, as an actress, so underrated. She's a fabulous, well, how underrated are you with an Oscar? There you go, that's true.

But I will say like as a diva, she is incredibly talented at embodying other characters and especially like you know i mean not to i've never snark out a woman's physical appearance in the sense of like i chose to get surgery and like but she was very emotive like she had you know her original face so stunningly beautiful and she was able to express so much with it yeah she she does have that it's crazy for someone who's literally performing If I Could Turn Back Time to also feel grounded, real. Like that woman next door.

Yeah, she's amazing. She's really good. Have you seen Cher's stuff? Yeah, of course. Movies. Have you seen Moonstruck? I've seen Moonstruck, but I will go back and watch old Sunny and Cher clips.

Oh, genius. The clips are good. Yeah, the whole hour. No, we don't need it. it's all fluff but like um not all fluff but like but just share just like landing a punch line or just reacting to something to sunny just being like whatever you can't take your eyes off of her no she is you can yeah her quote original face which i love which yeah like that's what you call it with her teeth and her i mean just her nose and her mouth and just her, just her, the color, the tone of her skin.

It's like, she's a true goddess. A goddess and the most gorgeous person you've ever laid eyes on. I couldn't agree more. God. Yeah.

She and like Bernadette Peters from like 1980. Oh my God. Complexion. I've been thinking about the pennies from heaven thing. Have you ever seen it? I've never seen it.

It's good. I only saw it recently, but like it's, it's good. It's dark. And not to it recently, but like it's, it's good. It's dark. And not to sound weird. Steve Martin and Bernadette Peters. Right.

Wait, what is, explain. So I haven't seen it. There's a musical from, I believe 1980 called pennies from heaven. Um, take place in the depression.

Um, who else is in it? Jessica Harper, who was also in phantom of the paradise. Um, it's, it's, it's dark.

Like, but there's some amazing musical numbers. I just like any musical with a sense of darkness, which is why I'm not as much of a sound of music. I'm definitely more

in the later, but yeah, it's pretty great. Yeah, yeah. There's this whole fantasy sequence where she goes into a classroom.

Yeah, and she's wearing Bob Mackie, and it's like... Right, yeah. She has on Bob Mackie in this gourd, and all these children are wearing like

white tuxes and like I'm sure that's online you should tweet that YouTube link we'll tweet that link along with the Born to be Gay

book cover I'm always like shocked when I go to YouTube I'll be like I mean maybe this exists and I'll type it in it'll be there like there's this

concert version of Sweeney Todd that I love with Patty Patty and George Hearn and that Neil Patrick Harris that oneopetra Karras. That one I think is like. That one's good. That's truly Sweeney Todd for me.

And like everything else I listen to like, like strike me down. But even like the Angela Lansbury version, I find to be like a little cartoonish for me. Oh my God, Matt is gone. There's just a bolt of lightning in this chair smoking. I accept it because for me, it always comes, Matt is gone. There's just a bolt of lightning in this chair smoking. I accept it because for me it always comes down to Worst Pies in London

and I've never seen a Worst Pies in London like Patti LuPone does in that concert version. It is everything. Like her singing is just so expressive and on point and operatic and like you get every single word in the stories being told and she's also so funny. Yeah, she's

really funny. Yeah, she's a ball buster. She's a balla boosta. Yeah, but I remember like, I was like, maybe they'll have this and I typed it into YouTube and you could see the whole thing. The whole thing. God bless. Well, recently like people have been putting up like full. Like Broadway shows? And specifically of Sondheim stuff.

Like old. Oh, wow. Like I had never seen Sunday in the Park until someone put up the like Mandy Patinkin, Bernadette production. And I was like, this is, I smoked a bowl and I watched it. And I was like, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. I mean, that Sweeney Todd concert version,

that could be your whole night. I mean, you could just sit it down and it's long and it's good. And that is something that I would say, if you haven't seen it, you gotta see that because that's a piece of art. See, my thing with Sweeney is I've beyond the, the,

the movie, I've never seen a full production. Oh, that's a shame. So that's why I don't, I mean, I really liked the Angela Lansbury version, which you can,

and it is, it is filmed in the same way that Sunday is. So it was like, someone was like, we have to get this on archive of some kind. It's not going to be the most entertaining, but like it for people who will appreciate it, it will be valued. And look, we appreciate

it. Wait, did you want to ask who? We haven't played Coven. Oh, well, I could say Mike Coven. Oh, I need a minute. I hate to ask the question because it's like so finite, but I would say one other thing, which is obviously there's Into the Woods with Bernadette, which you can watch

in full at some places. And also you guys, if you're in New York, you can always go to Lincoln Center and you can go, come on HPM, Harper-Dusser-Meg just like got on board with this,

but you can go to Lincoln Center and watch whole productions. Like I recently, I think it was like six, seven months ago, did this with Assassins. Oh, which one?

The one with, Neil Patrick Harris. Neil Patrick Harris, he's really good at it. And I, Michael Cerveris as Booth. He won the Tony, the Tony, assassins oh which one the one with no patrick harris um really good and uh i uh michael server as um booth tony the tony the tony he won the tony award the tony katane the tony katane tony newsome award um so but but that's a really good production and then there's of course i'm a victor garber as john wilkes booth and i i actually we have a friend um nico who's like really into

politics and like really loves this stuff and he had never seen it Assassin's Creed and I told him like last week I was like you should check this out

and he has texted me every single day about it and now he loves it he is obsessed with it it's a good one to like get familiar with because it's super relevant

yes that's also a good like gateway straight guy like show that and like gateway straight guy like show that and like all every straight guy I've ever met likes Guys and Dolls.

Yeah. Guys and Dolls. Really? That's another straight guy show. Straight guy show. Yeah. Wait have we talked about and wait this is another

and if this is truly putting you on the spot then tell me to shut up but have I asked you what your favorite show is? Oh no it's it's I mean it's Gypsy

because Gypsy I love Gypsy. Okay. Let, I mean, it's Gypsy because Gypsy, well, Gypsy's, okay, let me put it this way. Gypsy is the best musical of all time, but Sunday is my favorite. Got it. That's great.

That's great that you can distinguish those. Yeah. Wow. I mean, you, you have a whole fucking history with Gypsy. Or no, you saw it with Patty

and you said that she was voting it in. Okay, so I saw it with Patty and- Did she stop it to scream at someone? Well, no, actually, I remember the first episode we did with Cole, I said that she was phoning it in okay so I saw a matinee with Patty did she stop it to scream at someone well no actually I remember the first episode

we did with Cole I said this and some people were like what but I felt that she marked the matinee that I saw maybe she was tired maybe she was hungover

and it's her right you know what I mean she can do whatever she wants she's Patty Lepone she's given the performance of her life time yeah her marking is you know

it's still Patty it was like still Patty but I was like oh man I really wanted to be like blown like still Patty but I was like oh man I really wanted to be like blown away like the way I was blown away by Alice Ripley

in Next to Normal the way I was like blown away by Sutton in anything but I saw her in Drowsy Chaperone in previews when I was little

and I was like yeah unbelievable right just a whole show off number yeah she's amazing yeah I mean did you watch the Jimmy Awards

this year no but you told me about them and you showed me that clip from last year with the George Clooney girl and that was so fabulous yeah that girl is you should have her on this show oh we should she DM'd me after we talked about it and she was

like hey thanks for all the nice things you said and I'm like you're an icon come on the show come on the show educate us about the teens well because not only that. Educate us about the teens. Well, because not only that, but like they have all the performances up. So I watched that clip after you said it. And then I watched her performance.

The sister act performance. She was amazing. She better be. She was amazing. With that confidence? Are you surprised? Oh my God. Yeah. George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney.

Three times. George Clooney. And then the best two. Like, do you care? Of course you don't. I don't either. Her performance was stunning. But the reason I bring up the Jimmys is like,

so they're obviously kids in high school, but they do like those, they break it up into small groups of like the people that are really the ones to watch. Two of the girls in one of the finalist groups played the drowsy chaperone in Drowsy Chaperone. And there's nothing funnier to me than watching 17 year olds play like boozed up

50 year old women. Did they both sing the same song? They both sang As They Stumble Along. Really? Yeah. And they split it up like a duet. And then they did this incredible thing at the end where they held the note out together. It's good watching.

And you know one was doing more heavy lifting than the other. One of them was the actor and one of them was the singer. What? If you know what I mean. Uh-huh. Singer who, yeah. Singer who acts. Singer versus dancers who sing.

Yeah, got it. Bury that. Yeah. Wow. Bury that. Bury that. But no, I think like the Patty thing, I was just like expecting. You want to see her give herself a hernia.

Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to see something happen up there. Yeah, full blown Patty. And it was great. But also I had grown up watching on repeat the Bernadette Peters, Tony awards performance of Rose's turn. And I was just like blown away by it. Yeah.

In my opinion, she's never Rose Bernadette Peters. Never could. I saw that production. I was like, I love her to pieces, but she's not when they're like, all we need is someone with nerve.

I was like, who, who I don't see anyone on the stage right now. I'm sorry. It's just not her, not her stick. I get it. But Patty is the Rose for you?

Yeah. And I saw it with Tyne Daly. And she was amazing. I heard Angela Lansbury was the best ever. I'm not surprised. Or Ethel. I guess Ethel Murray was the OG. But yeah.

I mean, when you think Rose, you think of the Patty energy. Patty was amazing. Yeah. I don't think of, yeah. When someone says Rose's turn, the song, I don't think Ethel. I think Patty. Or I think that's your Rose. Totally.

But just music, in terms of the song track, I also think of Bette a lot. Ah, from that television movie. Yeah, I think Bette does a really good Rose's Turn. At least just the recording of it that's on Spotify or whatever. Great. Really good. I don't know. That's just me.

I haven't seen anything really, well, the last thing I saw on Broadway that really blew me away was Once on this Island. Oh, yeah. That was really, really, really good.

I saw that with Andrea Martin. We went together. Oh, my God. Yeah, we had a mommy-daughter date. Yes. It was fun. Oh, my God.

I love that. For a second, I was like, Andrea Martin was in Once on this Island. I was like, oh, no, you guys are like, you guys are co-workers. Yeah, we went, and at one point, she For a second, I was like, Andrea Martin was in once on this. I was like, oh no, you guys are like, you guys are co-workers.

Yeah, we went and at one point she leaned over to me and was like, I have no idea what's happening. And I said, just enjoy it.

Oh my God. We literally just at length talked about Andrea Martin, how brilliant she is and I big fat regretting the monologue about her twin. It was like an iconic comedic monologue

from the last like 20 years of filming. She's amazing. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, she's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. She's amazing. How often do you get to hang?

This is such a. I was on a plane with her recently and we were texting while we were like stalled in the. She was like, I want bone broth and the place will be closed. I was like, you should get food kick or max delivery. She's like, what's that? I was like, it'll be at your apartment. She's like, order it for me.

Oh my God. So I sent some bone broth to her house. Then she like came over and like tossed $30 at me. Flight attendants were very patient. I think, I think Difficult People, just really quickly, I think Difficult People was such, and this is not meant to be taken anything but the right way, which is it was gay fan service.

It was just candy for gay people. Having Andrea Martin play your mom and having Jackie Hoffman play this fucking mouthy wife of Fred Armisen and then having Cole there and Shakina. Yeah, Shakina.

God, I love that show so fucking much. Yeah, me too. It's so good. If I get, God forbid, hit by a bus tomorrow, I have that as my legacy. There you go. And I'm very proud of it. Oh, but I think,

I think you have, I think cool stuff happening, coming up. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Sure. Once my rosacea clears up, anything is possible.

It's over for you, Hoes. It could be. We have to ask the question. We have to ask the question, which is, Julie, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me this is the the spider's talking about so much i know already when you say culture is for me you mean like i want to make things i want to do things yeah i mean honestly sometimes i think about it that way there's so many ways to answer this question like

sometimes i think like for me if i were to answer the answer the question like i could say like lost the television show made me want to like write television. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? But then like also I sometimes answer it like my parents took me to Disney World a lot

growing up and that stoked my imagination. So it's really kind of like whatever you want. I mean, obviously like that Cats experience is very formative for me, but I also loved

The Monkees, the TV show The Monkees. Oh, wow. They were recently running them on MTV when I was a little girl. So I remember there was one night where I had

a nightmare and I was so scared and so upset. And I went into my parents' bedroom and they were like, look, the monkeys is on. And I remember watching that because they would always rerun it at 11, whatever they showed it for. And I've seen it that day. But I just remember like being specifically like introduced to the notion of familiarity and things that you love being able to not just distract,

but like, yeah. Was Davy Jones your crush? No. Oh, my God. Last one. If I had to rank them. Really? Rank them.

Rank them. Nesmith, Dolan, Tork, Jones. Okay. I feel like Davy Jones is the one my mom always talked about. Yeah. He was like the designated heartthrob. I see. But Mickey is the voice of the monkeys. Like, he's the was like the designated heartthrob. I see. But Mickey is the voice

of the monkeys. Like, he's the best singer. And you were attracted to the voice. Well, I, at the time, when I was a little girl, I liked Mickey. And then as I matured,

naturally, Mike is the way to love. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting how that happens. What you think you're into as a child. Sure. There's something about, like,

a 70s aesthetic and sensibility. Like, Oh, that was 60s. That was mid 60s. Yes, I'm so sorry. No, no, it was 66, 67. But that's even like before,

right, like, I don't know, like just, just I'm hearing the song like, Hey, Hey, We're the Monkees. And I'm just like, Oh, I'm already like

automatically comforted. I don't know what my point is. There are some beautiful, beautiful boys like, yes, romping around in California just like, oh, I'm already like automatically comforted. I don't know what my point is. There were some beautiful, beautiful boys like Yes. romping around in California with like, that was on film.

I mean, Right. Yeah, it was just wonderful. Yeah. And the songs were so great. That's kind of, would you say that's,

that's kind of like how to, like that's like Americana. Like that's like how to make a quilt. Yeah. Right? I don't know, to me. Very that.

Very that. They also try to recreate it, but it's like, Oh, that's impossible. Yeah, you gotta try to do something else because you can't recreate it. You're gonna have like

Carole King and Neil Diamond write songs for you and Boyce and Heart. Like, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. Did you see the beautiful Carole King musical? I did.

I liked it. I liked it. I saw it with Jessie and she was unbelievable. Yeah. So I saw it with her sister, Abby. She has a sister that does the same thing

she does I was gagged to hear this but Abby Abby Mueller like is also a incredible I mean it

I don't mean this disrespectfully but it was like watching Jessie you know what I mean it was like what a strange gig to step into your sister's

right because it's like you're imitating someone who was imitating someone right yes it was a weird one but it was like, but it was kind of funny because the performance was great. I'm sure.

But I was also cognizant the whole time of like, I know when you step into the role of someone originating it, you're not supposed to do them, but you're supposed to honor what they did. And also it's your sister, so you look like her. So it's kind of like seeing the same performance. Wow. Ish. Yeah.

I'm so glad I don't have a sister I'm happy I don't have a brother only child oh we've talked about birth I have an older brother older brother you have a sister older sister

right yes yes yes what is your we're both the youngest I I think this is something that is like crystallizing in my

in my brain is that if it weren't for my sister handing me handing down to me these like what like you would imagine a heterosexual girl in my brain is that if it weren't for my sister handing down to me these like you would imagine a heterosexual girl to enjoy

I would not have been able to consume we were talking about Dropped at Gorgeous with Katie Ruth Asher I would not have seen Dropped at Gorgeous if it weren't for my sister or I would not have had access to a Spice Girls CD to play on repeat if it weren't for my sister this is would not have like had access to like a Spice Girls CD to play on repeat if it

weren't for my sister like I this is something that I'm really like kind of landing on is this reality of there's this is this idea of like oh I needed her to be there in order for me to like have laid the little gay men appreciate women in ways that no one else does oh I mean yeah like I that's it is a It is a bigger blessing than most people even know, let alone take advantage of. I mean, it is so special. Beyond the idea that, like,

they're just the only people that understand how funny women are or can be. And it was funny because I... You were talking about... I forget what you were talking about earlier, but I remember after the Democratic debates, you showed me the...

I showed... Yeah. I introduced, you showed me the Marianne. Yeah. I introduced Julie Clouser to Marianne Williamson. Oh, that was amazing. I was in the room with her. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

I just started walking around the room. It was amazing. But it was funny because my heterosexual boyfriend told me the night he was watching the debates, he's like, there's this woman I think you will think is funny. Yeah, he was like, I'm an adventure to say. No, he couldn't peg it.

He couldn't peg it. I don't even know if he said funny. I think he was like, you'll be interested. Interested? He was able to mark, I think this is a crazy woman that Julie might think is hilarious. Yeah.

Which of course I do. And it tickled me to know. I mean, there's nothing like that sweet spot of a maniac. A maniac. A well-meaning maniac. Like just taking on more than she has any right to. Oh, yeah. I showed up to work.

With her speech and her swagger. Yeah. I showed up to work though and I was like, you need to see this. No one else got it. It this got it that is so funny we were describing it like when it happened as like an Adele Dazeem moment and I feel like there's only so many people on this planet that can appreciate the Adele Dazeem moment as being

what it was which is the finest moment anyone could ever experience it was the best moment of my life I know it really was I've never felt like that it's our that it's it's our defining it's basically Kennedy being shot

in the head but good it's the other side of that I remember when that happened well cause you talk about the moment

not only do you Matt talk about the adult-disease moment literally there was a surge but you talk about the moment when John he bows his head

and then the curtains part and then you just it's close up on Idina just being like, what the fuck just happened? Like horrified. Oh, after Travolta? After Travolta.

Oh, right after. Adele Dazeem, yeah. Yes. The funny thing about it is when he was talking, I literally said, I was like, how funny is it

that they are getting John Travolta to announce this like gay anthem? He's got those plugs in. And by the way, if you recall, he was wearing a literal chain connecting one

part of his collar to the other. That was what he was wearing instead of a bow tie. He looked absolutely insane. And then as he was talking, I was saying to myself in my own head, I was watching the bunch of people and I was like, he might not know her name. I was like, he, like, I know he's, it's like the wickedly people and i was like he might not know her name i was like he

like i know he's it's like the wickedly talented when the way he was stalling he was stalling one and only adele that's a good impression you're right he's very staccato yes wickedly chomping the consonants wickedly talented one and only adele oh i it. Oh, I love that. Also, when you think about the precision with which she says those words, being used to say the wrong thing? Funny. It's heaven. It's heaven.

Heaven. Yeah, it's heaven. And the confidence with which she delivered it. Sure. Unbelievable. He's interesting. That's Xenu.

It's gotta be Xenu. Maybe it's Maybelline. Maybe it's Maybelline. Maybe it's Maybelline. It's definitely Xenu. He's not born with it. No. He Maybelline. Maybe it's Maybelline. It's definitely Zeno. He's not born with it. He wasn't born with much. He made the most of what he was born with.

Truly. Well, I mean, yes. True good looks. Travolta. Fascinating. He has a fascinating career. Fascinating. Truly.

Because I always feel like Grease must have been the first thing. Not even close. No, Welcome Back, Cotter. You gotta see this Alan Carr documentary. Yeah. Oh, about Travolta? No, it's about Alan Carr, the producer. He produced Grease must have been the first thing. Not even close. No, welcome back, Cotter. You've got to see this Alan Carr documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, about Travolta? No, it's about Alan Carr, the producer. He produced Grease as well.

And he produced that insane Academy Awards thing. And he produced Can't Stop the Music, the Village People. Okay, cool. Musical and yeah. Yeah, wow. Jeez. So I had this moment with Travolta

during American Crime, during People vs. OJ. Oh my God. Where I was like, I'm actually. So funny. I really enjoyed him. Yeah, I mean, he was, that's the kind of thing where it's like actor meets performance and it's like, it's so surreal that it's just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

But that whole, the Ryan Murphy casting of it all uh-huh cuckoo bananas bananas because cuba getting junior and oj simpson that's like a weird match-up but it did work i think it did i think it for the most part it did that was like a very artfully executed uh ryan murphy granule joint joint yeah i prefer feud yes okay well yeah and what's happening i mean when when is diana and um what's happening? I mean, when is Diana and what's his face coming out? Do you know this? Is Prince Charles versus Diana coming out? I don't know. I know nothing.

It was literally like they said, the next feud is Charles and Diana. Well, they also said the next American crime story was Katrina and that didn't happen either. So who the heck knows? And I heard that they like filmed a lot of it. And like then they shelved it. Because Annette Bening was fully the lead of it.

And then it didn't come out. But this Charles and Diana thing seems like such a good opportunity, especially right now when everyone is obsessed with like the royal family of it all. Wait, and who played Diana? Well, they wouldn't say, but I was almost positive it was Gwyneth. Because of the Glee thing. because she's had Ryan history. Because she's with Ryan Murphy. She's a movie star who would, I think, only do so much television.

You know who would be better? Daryl Hannah. Daryl Hannah. We just talked about Daryl Hannah. She's another one. It's fascinating. Wow. Totally.

And you had brought up the Carol Radswell. She has an athletic blankness about her. What puts that in your mind of Daryl and Diana? Is that kind of like... It's a similar physicality, like the strong jaw. Strong jaw, strong nose. Yeah, like athletic sort of. But what were you saying about Carol?

So Matt basically recapped this a couple episodes ago. But apparently, so Carol was talking about JFK Jr. So Carol Radziwill was close with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. We know this. And we know this. And so she was close with JFK, but she was saying in some interview with Jenny McCarthy recently that, I know. America's, every generation gets the Mike Wallace it deserves. Truly, truly.

And like watching those interviews, sometimes I'm like, I'm here, aren't I? On this YouTube channel. But it's like I was watching this interview with Carol and Jenny and Carol kind of threw this thing away where she was like, well, yeah, you know, before Carolyn there was Daryl Hannah. And so we had to endure that. And I was like, what was that? Yeah. I was like, does she not like Daryl Hannah? I was like, is Daryl Hannah a

nightmare was it different in the 90s and then I asked Bowen I was like is Daryl Hannah like canon and I think she might be she's absolutely canon that's shady A it was I mean it's Carol who's shadier than she lets on I guess and Daryl Hannah was

involved with everybody John John Jim Henson. She was at his funeral. Arguably, she killed him. Just kidding. But she was seeing him when he... Really? Yeah, yeah.

And now she's married to... Who's she married to? I don't know. Neil Young. What? Neil Young? Okay. That is shocking.

That's like when you remember that Meg Ryan is married to Mellencamp. It's like, what? Did you remember uh that meg ryan is married to melon camp it's like what did they actually tie the knot i think that they're still together maybe they are married they started dating but

they only started dating like they tied the knot of a leather necklace yeah truly i mean they've been dating for about seven eight years right but which is not like which

is a long time but not long enough to be like it's it they started dating after meg like kind of fell off well yeah i mean what i what i mean to say is like it's like two iconic people that you forget.

Sure. Sure. Sure. It's a great couple. Yeah, totally. It's a great couple. It makes sense to me.

I was going to say that, but my, the conclusion we sort of came to with the whole, why is Carol being shade towards Daryl? Is that Carol versus Daryl? Carol versus Daryl. Yes. They can play themselves.

Make it. Um, I was going to say that like at the, like, cause Daryl Hannah was dating JFK Jr. at the height of her fame in the nineties. I was going to say that like at the, because Daryl Hannah was dating JFK Jr. at the height of her fame in the 90s,

I guess, or the late 80s where it was like she's probably doing a lot of coke and being wild and being crazy. Yeah.

And that might be it. I think maybe that was a little bit. I mean, also the, I guess the early 90s were like a big old coke time.

Sure, sure, sure. So that's our theory. Who knows? Who knows? Yes, but I,

people, we have friends who like, who will shit on Feud and say that the writing is terrible. But I think. I think Feud is the best writing of any of those. You do? You think? I do. Yeah, I loved it.

I liked it a lot. I loved Feud, yeah. You know what I loved? That scene where they show Joan Crawford's in memoriam picture and they're all watching. And then Susan Susan as Betty says that's all any of us will get

yeah and then they say to Joan and they cheers her it's kind of like that thing with gay men it's like you can really pick at each other but those women were

bonded by the experience of being a woman in Hollywood at that time yeah that's and that had some

really great supporting performances too, like Jackie Hoffman. Jackie Hoffman. Mamacita. Yeah, and Alison Wright, who also played a fictional character, but she's really good.

I think the coolest thing that that show did was it reinvented that famous Betty quote of, they say never speak ill of the dead. Joan Crawford is dead. They never say anything bad about the dead. Only good. Joan Crawford is dead. Good.

But the way that Susan reads that Reddit was like mournful and like bereft. And like, she like can't believe that this woman, that this like woman who's been in the trenches with her is like really smart reading on that so smart there's a thing susan's susan's very good very good and even though she like her politics are crazy but um anyway uh we won't get into just smile some

julie klausner um but yes i mean feud i want to see char and Diana I want to see their take on that I'll even I fucking love Gwyneth there you go I do you're not a Gwyneth stan yeah I mean come on she's a little precious she's a little precious is there is there a piece of culture that because you

were wondering if we were asking about things that made you want to create things is there something that comes to mind when it's that? Well, I mean, I loved the kids in the hall growing up. And I loved Woody Allen movies. And I always wanted to sort of like make my own version of that. Like I liked how he could write for himself. You know, write these sort of quasi-autobiographical things.

And then later I discovered Albert Brooks, who's like so much better. Not better, but he's the best. Deeper. Just funnier. much better. Not better, but he's just, he's the best. Deeper. Just funnier. More consistent. You know, quirky. At a certain point, I mean, they both,

you have to follow up. You have to grow up and get bad at what you do, I guess. Yeah, I know. But yeah, I guess. But I also like, yeah, I always loved sketch comedy. Yeah. We had Scott Thompson here a while ago. Oh, he's so great.

The best. We had such a great conversation with him. Yeah, he's so great. The best. We had such a great conversation with him. Yeah. He's amazing. Talking about like, you know, being a gay man in the industry and like not getting your due. Like we had such a great conversation. He was amazing on Larry Sanders.

Oh yeah. Sorry. I interrupted you. No, no, no. I was just saying like how difficult it can be to, how do I say this?

Like, like be the best at what you do yes and then watch them the moment where they'll allow it happen like 15 or 20 years later it's just so like you know what i mean like being before your time yeah that kind of thing it's like being before your time yeah yeah yeah being an out gay comedian in the 90s couldn't have been easy like people don't think about casting you for anything besides you know out gay comedian right what he talked about was um watching like sort of hollywood start to put gay characters on screen and like not even getting those like opportunities because like you know greg kinnear would be cast as good as it gets

or like sean hayes at the time would be cast in Will and Grace without being out and those kinds of situations where it's just like like the the blessing and the curse of like being

authentically yourself and that being like where your gift is but then also not being able to benefit from that and being invisible in plain sight exactly yeah

because only because society hasn't caught up to that yeah to where you're at it's tragic there are strides being made i mean it totally isn't linear but like there's definitely totally and like it would be so triumphant if like you saw like this sounds so whatever but like after that episode and like you know this can get back to him or whatever but like after that episode like truly like and this sounds so vain or whatever but like after that episode and like you know this can get back to him or whatever but like after that episode like truly like and this sounds so vain or whatever but I was like oh a fun career goal of mine now

is to like make something that for Scott Thompson you know it's like you want to see him like be like you want to see that like yeah triumph for him yeah I mean it's also like that's a butter up our guest or like like fan at your

feet but it's like the thing is like too is like in an industry that won't allow like like an a gay male star like that's why we have these like for example difficult people is like such an incredible with you and and billy and it's just like i don't know like are they would they have great even like five years ago even four three years ago even now what are we ever gonna see just like straight up a comedy with a gay male lead like i i don't know like and that's there's like so much like i think that's that's why it's important to have allyship because like we truly all do make each other better and like you know who who knows? And I would say, I would say that like the fact that Billy is getting this like Judd Apatow rom-com like in the works is like,

it couldn't have happened without like all these different things that like, yeah, buttressed him up. Like, you know, and like it's so deserved, but like you're such a part of that. It's so,

it's so amazing. I'm very proud of, you know, what I created. And I'm very proud of writing the stuff that I did. And of you know what I created and I'm very proud of writing the the stuff that I did and you know it was very important for me

for a gay man to be visible and not defined by his sexuality and to but to be also to be sexual and yeah

it's true allyship to see that friendship in like an authentic way was a big goal yeah Taylor Swift take note also and I've and I've thanked you to your face about just the fucking way was a big goal. Yeah. Taylor Swift, take note. Also,

and I've thanked you to your face about just the fucking, just the Kevin Spacey shit constantly. You guys were shitting on Kevin Spacey before it was like

popular or like the story broke out or anything. You guys would like come for him. I made sure there was a Kevin Spacey joke in every script

and sometimes it would get cut, but there was always one. Yeah. Honestly, you know what's fucked up is how long we were making those jokes. Before everyone was like, what? Well, before anybody cared. Because they did know. Everybody knew, but nobody cared. Yeah, that's the thing.

And that's the classic thing, too, is like, well, we didn't know. Yeah, you did. Of course you did. It's like, come on. Come on. Like, I've done, what, three I Don't Think So Honey's on Robin Wright? that's the classic thing too is like well we didn't know yeah you did it's like come on come on like i've i've done what three i don't think so honey's on robin right like yeah um but anyway uh so i speaking of i don't think so honey oh yeah time to do i believe it's time which is our one minute segment where we take something in culture that we dislike maybe even hate yeah

define language for yourself what you're comfortable with um but and we go uh on a one minute rant about that thing um so i do i do have something okay this is matt rod okay this is matt rogers i don't think so many his time starts now i don't think so many asmr oh my god we talked about it in detail on the pod before and i i don't know i'm very sensitive the smallest thing can send a shiver up my spine that's the point again it's like one of those things i guess that is the point but it's like i would like to go sit with someone in real life oh my oh fuck you um i don't think so on asmr because i also think it's becoming part of the culture now in a way we can't turn

back from we have cardi b doing asmr on youtube videos she is a very good at it and honestly i don't think so honey that i needed to know that was one of cardi b skills because now it's like i know she's a rapper i know she's really good at asmr i know she's going to be an actress and hustlers speaking of trailers that i like um i don't think so honey asmr has to do with my sensitivity really honestly you do you if you want to partake in it i just personally won't be doing it um also i don't think i would be good at it so that's i guess one of the reasons why i don't like it five seconds i find that i'm very loud and can't speak in a whisper so i don't think so on asmr but do you and what's for you and that's one minute uh a couple things go ahead am i gonna

get dragged for this no no no no is it kink sh Is it kink shaming? No, it's not kink shaming. No. I heard it's like cilantro. Like there's a part of your brain that either responds to it or doesn't. Yes, exactly. The way that like people have a gene that like cilantro tastes like soap to them. And then different triggers elicit different responses, meridian responses. But I do want to say fuck you for implying that people who listen to ASMR are lonely. Okay, I'll accept that.

Okay, that's one. I didn't hear that. That's so funny. See, but here's the thing. He, who claims to be my friend, is going to engineer it or reverse engineer it to find a way to make me look like a stupid bitch. You said, I'm not going to do ASMR. I'm going to go meet someone.

You said something to that effect. You are a stupid bitch. I can't quote it back to you right now you can't clearly but also Cardi is like a savant

she's very good she knows she's like I read up on articles about her doing that video yeah and like all these experts

are like she clearly has done this she's done this she says in the video she watches ASMR every night to go to sleep

and she like knows she knows that it's about hand movements and she knows to slow down her speech. Well you can see the intent and like the fire in her eyes when she's doing it.

It's a performance. She opens that can and like taps the can and I'm like you are into this. It's performing. It's a performance. I don't know. I love it.

And it's a fully realized performance. And actually ASMR is like a new name tag for it because back in the day like even like eight years ago it was called the whisper community and like that was like a new name tag for it because back in the day like even like eight years ago it was called the whisper community

and like that was like a shame I love oh that what a great name for a suspect yeah what a fabulous like

it is you know screenplay for anyone to write yeah whisper community okay I've got one well it looks like

it's gonna be Bowen Yang's turn to do I Don't Think So Honey here today on this episode of Lost Culturistas and his time will begin now I Don't think so honey matryoshka dolls russian dolls that nest and nest what's what's the end game there that i get to a small doll what am i gonna

do with a small doll oh not lose it it's a stressful stressful thing to have it's not fun the only fun thing is to organize the dolls and nest them in one another. I don't think so, honey. That's not play. That's stress over, you know, spatial compacting. You know what I'm saying?

30 seconds, no. I think one of the, we're, America is having a weird moment with Russia right now. Sure are. But the worst Russian cultural export in history has been the Russian nesting doll. That's big.

15 seconds. Now you see these crazy silhouettes on, you know, fucking these fillies right behind my co-host Matt Rogers. Oh, you're right. Was this an I don't think so honey that I only thought of? Because I looked at something in the room and thought, I don't think so honey that? Yes, but I actually do hate Russian

nesting dolls and that's one minute I always love when you use your last five seconds to be like is this bad and did I only think of it two seconds ago

yes love that for you I love that narrative I love this as like because it's supposed to be pop culture I thought you were going to talk about

the show because it got nominated for Emmy oh no no I love the show I just thought that was so funny that like

fuck you Russian doll it's just a funny way to yeah Leslie Hedlund okay the show because it got nominated for Emmy. Oh, no, no. I love the show. I just thought that was so funny that like. Fuck you, Russian doll. It's just a funny way to. Yeah. Leslie Hedlund. Okay. This is Julie Klauseners. I don't think so. Okay.

So. Go. Okay. And this is. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I meant go. What was your question? What was your question?

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I mean, I set you off. I'm so anxious. No, that's fine. Don't worry about it.

Okay. Make it. Make it about whatever you want. It is going to be. it's a pop culture thing right yeah it's supposed to be okay wait

just so people know in case they want to skip forward this will contain spoilers and we love that we love a spoiler warning so spoiler alert a minute ahead

if you care about The Handmaid's Tale great oh I love this I wonder if our listeners care about The Handmaid's Tale I think some of them do.

You want to just zip forward a little? Here we go. Okay, this is Julie Klausner's I Don't Think So Honey. Your time starts now. Okay, so I watch every episode of The Handmaid's Tale like midnight when it comes out, and I hate it so much. And I loved the first season,

even though this is like a horrible, it's like chickens watching chicken torture video. It's like, I'm a woman video you know it's like i'm a woman what am i doing and they just keep getting meaner and meaner to women and they're like let's hang them by the river and now they're doing like body torture like they're just like look we put rings in her lips when you're like what are they what do they do with the teeth are the teeth gonna rot how's she gonna be fertile and anyway i just want to say that I gave up on that show as soon as Serena gave that fucking baby away because that is something

she would never do. And she did that and I said, no way because now this season, she's like, I got to get the baby back. 15 seconds.

And the writers are clearly like, I don't know anyone who writes on it, you know, but like they are clearly like, she's got to get that baby back. She's like, yeah,

because you're fucked up because you're done goofed. Five seconds. I don't think so honey Elizabeth Moss is very good a lot of facial acting and the music choices are very on the nose and that's one minute it's really true and also

I kind of tuned out at the same time it sounds like you did because it's like to see the show now and I'm like okay Serena is now mean again after she made the turn. No effing way. What's going on? Because.

No effing way. Nothing's improving. You cut off her finger. You have to cut that bitch's head off in order for her to not want that baby. That is the only thing she wants. Yeah. And now it's like, yes, she still does. Like, no, I give up with you.

And now it's just torture and there was this one scene in front of the like would-be lincoln monument yes yes yes and they're just shouting at each other i hate you i hate you and it's like okay this is like episode too many into american horror story oh yeah where you just have angela bassett and kathy b being like, I hate you. I hate you more. And you're like, one of you kill the other because I'm bored. And this is not heightening. No, I'm taking my I don't think so honey into the other direction. No, it's good.

It drives me cuckoo bananas. And I'm waiting for them to use the song like, I don't know, sisters are doing it for themselves. Yeah, the music is just unbelievable. And, yeah, truly. On the night. Yeah, the music is just unbelievable. And we get it.

You have a budget. Anyway, yeah. And the thing is, that show is, like, very proud of itself in a way where I'm like, but the thing is, you do have to keep serving this quality. And the thing about it is, too,

it's just, like, it is incredibly hard to watch, has always been hard to watch, but we watch it because, like, it's a horror movie. At the end of the day, like, we do want to watch has always been hard to watch but we watch it because like it's a horror movie at the end of the day like we do want to see some catharsis and it seems

like it gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse the more seasons they give them the more you're gonna drag out the torture did you see that interview where the

guy was like I see it potentially having 10 seasons I was like come on what get Bruce out of here no um that is unacceptable I will have ever say I love I've been waiting for an Aunt Lydia flashback episode for this entire Bruce out of here. No, that is unacceptable. I will however say,

I've been waiting for an Aunt Lydia flashback episode for this entire time. We got that dress. Seeing her on a date doing karaoke and then making out with a guy on her couch reaching right for the peen was wonderful. Anne did this? Unbelievable. Wow, this is Anne in the flashback too? I said, I'm just going to stop

watching after this because it's not going to get better and it'll certainly get worse but the thing is like the thing is like when you are someone who loves like to see like we've been talking about like these largely female cast amazing actresses like and the thing is like you can

get kind of swept away and like how well it's being performed but like that show is spinning its fucking wheels. I just love that you hate watching Julie despite being horror curious and refusing to watch other horror.

Because I consider it so, I would call it horror. Yeah, it definitely is. Yeah. And they do like the reveal that girl with the fucking shit in her mouth. That was a horror sting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. It's like very cruel. I heard about this mouth thing and it's just, it is it's like I heard about this mouth thing and it's just it's no it's too much it's not cute

no not cute and my shows need to be cute yeah that's what I like about Dead to Me it remains cute I'm watching Dead to Me right now have you seen it

oh yeah so fucking good um is it because I I watch I watch the season in a day oh yeah

so you don't know so that means I like it yeah yeah yeah I don't know if it's means I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know if it's good. It's like, oh, I finished this entire bag. Like, you could watch it again and be like, oh, maybe on this day I wouldn't have finished. But I won't.

Because it was a day well spent. And I enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm not saying, like, I'm not going on the record to be like. Yeah. But you know what? It very well could be.

I'm not saying that it isn't either. Yeah, right. No, what my thing is with it is it's just like, I've been spacing it out three episodes, three episodes, three episodes, three episodes so I can say as someone who went a little bit differently I am enjoying it and I'm also like unable

to not love anything that Christina Applegate or Linda Cardellini do. They are No, it was my heat wave. It was like my Sunday So you recently watched it Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's beautiful That is dream casting for you though, Matt Is it? Those are your girls? Oh Applegate and Linda Cardinale. Oh, those are two of my girls.

Like, Christina's since married with children. Oh, she was so hot on that show. She was gorgeous and also, like, funny. Kelly Bundy was, like, a time-mobbing. Kelly Bundy. Yeah, that's actually rule of culture number nine. Kelly Bundy is an icon. Yeah, Kelly Bundy was, like, the Anne Margaret of her time.

Oh, yeah, you're Anne. In many ways, yeah. I mean, that's's someone who's like, you know, Christina Applegate is such a star that it's like, you knew from watching her in that moment that you were like, she's here to stay. She's so good.

I love sluts. Yeah, same. I love a good slut. Stupid sluts. Because her flipping through the phone book and saying, what's the number for 911 is so fucking good. Yeah.

More sluts. More sl Yeah. More sluts. More sluts. More sluts. And that's why I need to be cast more. More sluts. And I think, title of that?

More sluts. More sluts with Julie Klasner. Sleep on it. Sleep on it. This has been fabulous. I'm so happy to be here. And thank you guys so much for having me on your show.

It was really fun. Thank you for being here as well we had a great time great time talking culture talking culture so listen Bo we do end every episode

with a song I agree oh wait can I just propose another title for this yes yes yes Julie Bowen and Mr. Rogers

yes Julie Bowen Julie Bowen and Mr. Rogers that way people will search and they'll be like wow wow wow I love that so Julie Bowen Julie Bowen and Mr. Rogers. That way people search and they'll be like, wow, are we? I love that. So Julie Bowen, no commas, and Mr. Rogers.

Yeah, there we go. There you go. Wow. Gorgeous. Perfect. And in real life, it's Julie Bowen and Mr. Carlson, unfortunately. Oh, no. There's a little drag on her.

Julie Bowen and Mr. Carlson. Yes, yes, yes. Are they an item? Allegedly. He tells me that Julie Bowen and Tucker Carlson were at least a thing for a little while we're hooking up

and then Julie was Julie left her husband they had promised to leave each other each other's spouses for each other Tucker Carlson

chickened out Julie Clouser Julie Bowen did not wow and so now Julie has is left the fool and I'm gonna give

a legal note and say this all happened allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm going to be the Sonny Hostin of this episode and say this allegedly happened. She's the lawyer on The View who always gives the legal notes. And you are the lawyer on The Lost Culture Reasons. I'm, of course, the lawyer of this show.

Who knows? I mean, if Julie Bowen wants to start beef with me, I would love that. I would actually love that, too. It would be the best thing for my career right now. Yeah, it would be great. And then I'll start a beef with Ed O'Neill. Ed O'Neill. There you go. Couldn't ever love that. I would actually love that too. It would be the best thing for my career right now. And then I'll start a beef with Ed O'Neill. Ed O'Neill. There you go. Could never do that. Not with married and children. Sophia. You should start a feud with Sophia.

I'll start a feud with Sophia. That kind of reads. Okay. Let's do it. You pick. He's a little obsessed with me. He's singing my song. He's a little obsessed with me. He's a little obsessed with me In the morning and night He's a little obsessed with me

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