Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Mother God" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

The Congress Queen and the Prince of Christmas convene in the Church of Cultch (Bowen's apartment) to discuss the disturbing and fascinating cult docuseries Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God on HBO, cult aesthetics, Beyoncé's Renaissance Tour film, Blue Ivy's dance journey, May December's chokehold on the culture at the moment, the song "Candle In The Wind", and the fundamental differences between stew and soup. All this, Kyle vs. Sutton, "RockaFellaCenta" in Rockefeller Center, a dragging of Julianna Marguiles, MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS about next year's LCCAs and our upcoming 400th episode's theme and rules and... the moment you've all been waiting for... an acknowledgment of The Morning Show's season three finale. We want lobster NOW. MAKE us a sandwich!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in between tour dates he's not gonna bring the mic with him every time i mean i could have and should have because i'm not gonna be back in la for a while and i i want to give y'all quality okay that's all i ever want is to give you guys quality honey we will make up the quality with the content in the content you're so right and not that you have any problem doing that, or should I say, Congress Queen. Girl. We're not going to talk about that.

Why? Well, what do you want to know? It's not that I want to know anything. I want to acknowledge. You think that the readers aren't tuning into this episode saying they want to hear all the BTS? The BTS was that... We're not going to talk about that. The BTS was that I sang the full version of Candle in the Wind.

Because Lorne wanted to see me do it Friday night. We didn't have a script page. So you just sang Candle in the Wind in the clear? So then like Janine DeVito, our beautiful associate producer, head of the script department, was like, Bowen, I'm really sorry, but I think, you know, you have to stick around until, this was like 18 hour a day on Friday. And this is my new thing. I'm not

complaining anymore. I'm not saying the words I'm tired. And me, Celeste, Sarah, and Allison Gates at work are saying, if one of us catches the other saying the words I'm tired, then that person has to pay everyone like $500 or something. What?

It's like a swear jar. It's a swear jar thing. Because you know what? Saying I'm tired, and you know me, I'm the mom. I'm tired culture. I'm finally hitting this point now where I'm like, saying those words only reinforces that state.

It doesn't really do anything. It's also contagious. Charlie Bardet came to the show as a guest of Celeste and he was like, it's contagious and it also like, it is conversational filler.

It only exists when you don't know what else to say. I think that is why I don't like when people are like, oh, I'm tired. It's because I just feel like

it is inherently not interesting. I wrote a whole sketch about this for Pop Roulette I remember. But that was kind of a self-read. It was the storytellers where Sudi was the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was like a nature documentary about this really fascinating... It was like an anthropological documentary. It was a fascinating storyteller. Shares in the tradition of ancient cultures. Yeah. By sharing interesting parts of her day. She's like, I'm tired. Wait, I remember this.

I think that's the first sketch I ever got on Pop Roulette. Wait, yes, I remember that. It was a runner, right? It was a runner. It was a runner. It was. Yeah. I think it didn't come in as a runner or we made it a runner. It worked perfectly. Just split it up. It was really good. Anyway, Janine calls me and she's like, and I think Lauren wanted

to see me sing it and try it out and we didn't have pages and so then it was like, I guess I'm singing all of Candle in the Wind. So you just said so it seems to me you live your life like a candle in the wind.

Wow, what a great song. It's a beautiful song. It's so good. No bridge. Elton. Elton for the pod. Elton for the pod. But then it was mortifying

because it was like one in the morning. It was, Lauren was sitting right in front of me. All these crew members who just wanted to go home. They were like, why the fuck are we listening to Bowen sing? Cand one in the morning it was lauren was sitting right in front of me all these crew members who just wanted to go home they were like why the fuck are we listening to bow and sing candle in the wind did they applaud after no they didn't of course not i'm so mad at them no they had every reason to not applaud if you give all of candle can i say this is a rule

of culture if you give all of candle in the wind and no one applauds, I'm mad at you. That's a real culture. What number is that? What number is that? 48? 48. If you give all of Candle in the Wind and no one applauds, I'm mad at you. So I went in to Saturday just like not knowing what the hell was going on until like

we ran through it like a couple hours before dress. So it was very, I was very unprepared. I said that was the Emmy tape. You can take the rest of the year easy. Girl, no way. Diva, no way. You're coming hard every week. I get about no award.

I'm kidding. Well, you see where my head's at. In the gutter. Well, speaking of the gutter. What? The gutter between your toes. Oh, God. Can I say, I'm ready to tell everyone my truth.

I think it's because I've been traveling a lot. I've been out on the road. I've been stomping the pavement trying to get this album promoted. That my athlete's foot is back. And I actually just showed Bowen in the person the person in the flesh as it were and he was really upset and that's not that i'm upset any part of you i think is so beautiful i just think that was really shocking to see yeah it's got to get dealt with and trust you will be dealt with and this actually segues perfectly into something that i am very late on

but love has won this hbo documentary on the cult of mother god is really upsetting i still have to watch the third and final part but this woman basically this cult leader um this is a popular documentary like are people talking about it I think people are talking about it. People at work were talking about it. Oh, they were? All the crew members were like,

yeah, you watching Mother God? It's called Love Has Won. So the cult is called Love Has Won. Love Has Won. Which is so... That's not a name for a cult. No.

For me, it's like Love Has Won. If I found out there was an organization called Love Has Won won you'd be like i'm going to the gala i don't know i would think oh that's a cult no if i say the words you love has won you think oh i guess that's on a shirt yeah yeah yeah some sort of like twee phrase yeah yeah exactly which something can be twee and cult which i think is what period period which i think

is what this whole thing is basically this woman her name is Amy Carlson is just normal gal working at McDonald's managing McDonald's being very successful manager at McDonald's and then I guess she tried ecstasy one day and liked it so much that it broke her and then she believed that she was the creator of the universe and starts this internet community that ends up coming to her and they all believe genuinely in their hearts that she is the next iteration of not only jesus christ but of marilyn monroe oh and of princess diana candle in the wind subjects and then there's the Galactics, which is this like group of deceased people

who speak through her. And those people include Whitney Houston, Robin Williams, most saddeningly. Like Robin Williams is like figures hugely into this. Really? Posthumously, obviously, but like Robin Williams is like one of the prophets. It's the craziest.

You need to watch how many people are in this cult and is it an active cult it's hard to say people so there are so they shot this in 2021

like a couple years ago uh huh I don't want to give away too much but like the first moment in the documentary is really crazy and I will have

nightmares about it for the rest of my life seriously yeah oh my god but I don't want that to deter you from watching no I'm gonna watch it is really crazy. And I will have nightmares about it for the rest of my life. Seriously? Yeah. Oh my God. But I don't want that to deter you from watching it. No, I'm going to watch it. It's not like horror.

It's like something so disturbing. Oh my God. What is it? Okay, so I think a lot of- Spoiler alert for the first moment of- Of Love is One. Mother God. I think a lot of-

It's so funny that it's- Mother God! It sounds like gay driven. Title of that. Mother God. I think a lot of, it's so funny that it's. Mother God. It sounds like gay drip. Title of it, Mother God. So I'm very behind on this. So the first moment is this town in Southern Colorado called Crestone. And it's the cops who have a warrant to search this house. And this guy greets them.

And then the cops are like, how many people are here? And he goes, there are five beings. What beings? There are five beings and a few other people. And then the cops are like, anyone else? They're like, you're not telling. It's like he's withholding something. And he goes, there is a mother.

And she has rested. So at first you watch it. You're like, okay, so the mom might be in bed or something. So then they go search the apartment. It's filthy, disgusting.

It has rainbows and flowers on the ceiling. The paint is disgusting. There's like, it's been through like 10 layers of paints. There are Christmas lights everywhere. It is so nauseatingly disgusting in there. Oh my God. Like Lisa Frank, but fucked up.

Holy shit. And then they go into this bedroom. And they're like, I want to say it's like a really adorned bed. Flowers, Christmas lights hanging on it. And there's like a body under like duvets. And then they lift up like a pillow and you just see a silver face with like makeup eyes over the eyelids.

What? And it's Mother God mummified. It's her mummified? It's her. She's been dead for, I think, a couple months, and these people have decided to mummify her by, like, putting all this fucking

glitter makeup on her face and, like, painting eyes on her eyelids and putting, like, turban on her. It's... You said at the beginning of this, that this wasn't horror. What you just described is the most horrifying. I can never understand. There are five beings and one mother and she has rested.

You go in, you see a POV of them going into this Lisa Frank hell. Yeah. They go up to a bedroom, unveil a duvet. It's a mummified woman who's been dead for two months in makeup.

And that is, forget about Mother God, that's Mother Exclamation Point. The movie? Darren Ironski? That is horror like that film. Which I still haven't seen. Sorry.

You know I can't watch that. Sorry, Jennifer Lawrence, I've never seen it. Jennifer, I'm not watching Mother! People that listen to this podcast know that's not the film for me. I'm not seeing anything

like that. I'm not going to see anything that's going to upset me viscerally. I say this as a great fan of literally everyone involved in that film. But I won't watch that one. Because it feels like what you just said. So then are you not going to watch this documentary?

Well, I have to say... Because it's actually viscerally disturbing every moment. Honestly? Because there's footage, because these people are obsessed with live streams. The thing... God, cult aesthetics can look like...

A cult can look like anything. Oh, 100%. To paraphrase a Pat Reganism, he says a family can look like anything all the time. Occult can look like anything. It's real occulture number eight. Occult can look like anything. So the occult aesthetic for them is everyone has a laptop, everyone's going live.

It's like Starbucks. It's like Starbucks. Everyone's going live. Everyone is doing shrooms or tripping or ayahuasca or on meth. It's like Brooklyn. It makes me never want to do a drug ever again. Would that be the worst thing? It would not be the worst thing. It is so shocking when you realize like how the human brain and the human spirit are so fragile and they be so easily tempted to believe in anything like how this woman who I'm sorry,

it looks completely average and a very okay way. She's an average woman. Yeah. Is whipping up all of these people into believing that she is Jesus Christ herself. Yeah. And that she is the most beautiful woman in the world. Yeah.

Well, there are monsters among us. Well, of course. And a monster can look like anything. A monster can look like literally anything. It looks like Amy Carlson. Bitch.

Amy Carlson is making these people. They cut to like all these notes. And part of her thing as a cult leader is, make me a sandwich. Make me a galactic taco salad is what one of the recipes is called. Make me crab legs. I want lobster now. They're in Colorado, bitch. Like she, like this woman is about food.

She sounds like me low key. No, high key. I'm like, oh, that's, that's me. Like on a Sunday after a hard day of work. I want lobster now. Make me a sandwich. You and Hale and Hardy. Me and Hale and Hardy.

Oh, R.I.P. Oh, can I say, I didn't even know Hale and Hardy was gone until it was too late. I mean, there obviously is like an organized crime thing. Wait, what? Matt, it disappeared with no notice. So you think it was organized crime? You think Hale and Hardy was the mob? I think there was something going on there.

We need the Hale and Hardy documentary now. Hale and Hardy, for people who don't know, used to be a soup chain in New York that everyone loved. Right? Yeah, I mean, I was there all the time. You could get a half soup, well, I guess it was a cup soup, a half sandwich.

Panera could never. Literally, Panera could never, and they had unbelievable chili. They had so many soup options. Someone should step up and sort of do a Hale and Hardy-esque thing. There's a huge hole in the market. Major. Especially for my

soup queens, which I'm the leader. Yeah, I know. You love stew. I'm more soup. There are two different things. We really don't have time to talk about the differences between stew and soup right now. We might. This is going to be a quick hour. I would say that stew,

there's more consistency there because it's probably based in a protein or a starch, whereas the soup is based in the liquid. The liquid. And in a stew, you would maybe put in, it would maybe have a roux base. Not a roux base, but you would start, you would start, yeah. You develop the flavors in a very specific way. And soup, the beauty of soup is you can kind of just It can be anything. A soup can be anything. Except stew. Oh, yeah. A soup cannot be stew.

A soup cannot be stew. Rachel Ray tried to make stoop happen. Did she actually? Which is something that lives between a soup and a stew. Hubris. No. Heard of it. Can we talk about Rachel Ray? Sure can. She's still doing it. She's still doing the thing. And I actually have to admire her.

And you know my ass didn't give two shits about Giada or Bobby or even I'm going to say Ina. I was tuning in to Food Network growing up for Rachel. It makes me, I'm looking at Amy Carlson right now on my computer. Is that her? That's her. And actually, part of

her narrative is that way. She's pretty stunned. She looks like Maggie Rogers. Does she not look like Maggie Rogers? She looks like Maggie Rogers before Divinity School. Was that her? That's her when she died. That's her when she died? That's Father God.

She had multiple partners all named father god but they were like the prince philips to her someone says they were like the prince philips to her queen elizabeth they were just so can i ask you a question in this documentary in the opening moments you see this woman's dead body you see her you her body is covered up but what's the most chilling is that before it cuts to the title card, it's just slow, slowed down, shaky police cam footage set to scoring a metallic face staring back at you, staring at the camera. But the eyes are actually painted on. I've never seen anything like that. And then every bit of footage. So because of the live streams,

they have so much footage of these people just like being on every drug, cackling, screaming, singing stupid songs, acting a damn fool. But it's like, I guess this is what I'm like when I'm stoned with friends. I mean,

yeah, but like, I think these people clearly were just like, must've been just like warped. They were, yeah, but like I think these people clearly were just like must have been just like warped. They were warped, but like. But look at her. I mean, if someone looked that looked like Maggie Rogers came to me and was like, get me a sandwich. Not for nothing. I think I would drop most everything I was doing

to get her a sandwich. Girl. Look at her kind face too. That's the thing. No, it's not a kind face. But this is is when we say a cult could look like anything. A cult leader could look like anything. It could look like a fucking fifth grade teacher. This woman, well Joel Joel Kim Booster was telling us about the

Twin Flames documentary. You guys have been going off with your cult documentaries. Joel has not started Love Is One. I have not started the Twin Flames documentary. This is a subculture that you guys belong to. Well, there's a million... HBO documentaries.

The Twin Flames one is on Prime, but... Oh. So he was saying about them, like they're the most uncharismatic cult leaders. And I want to say, like, I guess it's such a fine line between charisma and... Uniqueness, nerve, and talent. Absolutely.

And like, I don't think that many cult leaders... I can't name that many cult leaders that are like, yeah, I would follow Absolutely. And like, I don't think that many cult leaders, I can't name that many cult leaders that are like, yeah, I would follow them. You know what I mean? Like, even fucking like the NXIVM guy, I'm like, Keith Raniere, I'm like, no fucking way. Oh yeah, no way. That's the thing, is it's like, they're all fucking

dweebs. Yeah, she probably has trauma. Well well the mom and the sister like i honestly think they were doing their best because the mom and the sister were like she was never mother god to us she was just amy she was never mother god to us and then whatever i don't want to spoil too much, but her life in her adulthood, I guess, was defined by these really toxic relationships with men. And that carries over into her relationships with the multiple father gods. Yeah. So when I walked in here today,

this was on, there was 12 minutes left in the episode. I said, no, go ahead, finish. And Bowen said, I don't want to finish. And yet here you are giving it sort of a ringing endorsement on here. I just, I can't. Was that the, wait. No, no, no. Oh my God. Is that

it? No, no, no, no. That's not it. That's not it. Oh my God. That's her in like a mask. Okay. So everyone, there's a photo of her on Google Images with like a sheet mask on. And I thought that was, we're not looking at her anymore. It's actually too much. Yeah, you're really... I can tell this has really shaken you. Well, the reason I'm watching it is because it is

presented in a very watchable format which is three-part documentary series, 55 minute episodes each. Perfect. I can... Well, that was my problem with The Vow. It was a lot. It was like 12 episodes first season and then they were going were like, we're doing a season

two. I'm like, to say what? I know. Well, the second season was like the aftermath of the conviction or whatever. Yeah, I guess. But it's just like, I don't know if we need more of this. This is an interesting one. This is a new flavor of cult documentary that I think is important to consider.

It's just deep. I'm very disturbed. And it makes me sad to think about, I mean, cults are about self-surrender. Like there are all these pieces about how like you can't feel too bad for anyone who joins a cult because there's a level of self-surrender to it. Well, yeah.

I mean, I guess they would call it faith, which is really scary. But I think that about everything. Sorry. I feel like it's in the. It's good that we're talking about it. It's out there. Don't worry.

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You're going to have the best time. It's different than the Eros Tour because this is an actual, it's more of a documentary. Life is but a dream stuff. Yes. So two things, three things stuck out to me. One, just to talk about the actual concert itself. If you've seen the Renaissance World Tour concert,

you know how unbelievable it is as a spectacle. But when you really see just the minutia of the set, the lighting, the sound. I took my band that I've been on the road with, the Gay Strangers, come see Matt Rodgers and the Gay Strangers live on tour. And they were musically so blown away. They were like, it's all bass.

It's so crazy. Like the music is just cranking. She is calling every single shot. Oh, you see her in like the BTS? Oh, yes. So that was the first thing I noticed was when you're not watching it as part of the audience and you can actually see like a well shot, like, you know, following it as if you're right there with her. She is such an

unbelievable performer in the midst of all that, et cetera. We all knew that. That's obviously the first thing. It's just, just how incredible that show is. Two, the thing that is so clear is how hard she still has to fight so that people don't gaslight her into thinking that her vision is not achievable.

Wow. Like, her exhaustion level in preparing for this is so high. Yes, because it's so difficult to prepare for that.

She had a knee surgery before the Renaissance tour. Like, it was a full surgery. It wasn't just an injury. She had to get, like, operated on. She was rehearsing while she was in recovery for it like there's footage of her you know doing pt and vocal training at the same time like this is just like truly an unbelievable like insurmountable really thing for anyone else but she did it

all while dealing with people even beyonce and she says because i'm a black woman i still have to fight every single person to execute my vision in the way that i know they don't talk to other people like this and there's an amazing scene where she's asking for like a certain type of rig and they're saying it's not possible it doesn't exist and she's like okay well i looked it up while you guys were're saying it's not possible, it doesn't exist. And she's like, okay, well, I looked it up while you guys were talking and it does exist. And here it is. And here's how you're going to get it here.

So that was number two, is really just how tenacious she is. And anyone else would just be like, you know what, fine, let's just do the easy thing. But she never does that. Three, the highlight of the whole doc to me was the uncle johnny stuff now well the uncle johnny stuff was amazing and i'm really happy that was like an extended part of it because they really tina gets like a whole section where

they're interviewing her about about uncle johnny and you know tina's just a legend she really gets her flowers in the documentary like um there's a part part where Beyonce's being interviewed and Tina's next to her the whole time. And Beyonce just says, you know, the only reason why I'm here and able to do all this is you. You're the only reason. And they hug and it's just so beautiful. But speaking of her family, my favorite part of the whole Renaissance world tour film was Blue Ivy. Like there's a sequence where says, Blue Ivy came to me and said she's ready to perform, and I said no because she's not ready. She hasn't gone through nearly enough

to be ready to go out in front of all those people and do this, etc. And she was like, you can do one show. And then I guess, it's really the first time I've seen Blue Ivy talk and exist, but she's cool as fuck and seems to have it together. And she's got opinions about the things that her mom is doing.

And her mom wants to cut a song from the show. I think it's like, I forget exactly what song it is, but it's one of the older ones. It's Diva. Diva. Beyonce is like, I kind of want to cut Diva or make it way shorter. And Blue Ivy's in the corner doing her homework and she turns around and she's like, no! You cannot cut Diva. You can't do it.

She's like, Blue, stop. And she's like, no, you can't cut those songs. You cannot cut those songs. What was her reason? I think she was trying to say you can't cut the classics. You just can't. And then Beyonce turns to Blue and says, I appreciate your opinion, but you need to calm down and you can't be the classics. Like, you just can't. And then Beyonce turns to Blue and says, I appreciate your opinion, but you need to calm down

and you can't be cutting people off. And it's intercut with Beyonce doing all of Diva. That's fine. Which I loved. Oh, I loved that. And so then to speak more about Blue Ivy, Blue gets on the internet and sees troll, mean comments about her dancing.

And in the beginning, she wasn't in the beginning she wasn't at the level she was at at the end and so they just show her working really really hard to get it right and like really taking it seriously and beyonce was like this was not only a renaissance for me and everyone here but it was truly a renaissance for blue ivy because she learned what happens when she applies herself and what she's capable of and then they show blue doing the number with beyonce like and what i loved about the movie too is and this set it apart from eras like they filmed so many of the concerts so that they were able to cut i know the cuts were insane and And Bowen, the garments, the outfits, the stunning costumes,

the robot arms into cozy. Like I, people have been like putting down on their stories and I, my jaws on the floor. Like there is never a moment. You're not gasping at what she and the whole cast, the dancers, the band,

what everyone, even the crew. And she goes on to talk about how she wanted to dress the crew specifically because she wants the crew's movement to actually be part of the show because the mechanism of it, she wants as much of a light shown on that. I love that. So that's why the crew were in those metallic outfits because when a crew member comes out, that's, for her, the world of the show. So awesome.

I'm telling you like they show this sequence of blue and beyonce dancing together and you see at the end just how hard blue ivy was slaying it and you just feel at the end of that sequence of the movie like it was really well done and like snaps to beyonce for that whole the whole thing but especially this because, because the pride that Beyonce as her mother feels at the end, you feel as the audience for her because of the way that it's been edited. I love lots of great cameos. Megan, the stallions in a Kendrick is in it.

There is a really funny moment during the mute challenge where in the middle of it, they cut to Cardi B and the audience being on mute. And it's a test for the audience because you don't know Cardi is coming. And then when you see her, you just want to laugh and scream so much. That's so funny. Someone in my theater did laugh

and we all turned to her and was like, That's a trap. It was so good. Anyway, best time watching it. Like obviously seeing the tour, saw it twice was brilliant but i think this could be a really fun idea for christmas day like i'm thinking because are you gonna be here for christmas okay so a bunch of us are going to be here in new york city for christmas i want to maybe this will lead to me joining a cult the beehive i'm already in the

beehive but uh do a little do a little period do a little mushroom and then go to the Renaissance tour film on Christmas in New York City. That could be absolutely epic. Because I'm definitely seeing this again. Can I tell you the fact that Thicke was not in every show? I didn't get to see Thicke live. Thicke and All Up In Your Mind in the Renaissance film highlights. Really? Thick is a contender for me to be number one song on the album.

Really? Yes. I mean, it's excellent. It's so good. So All Up In Your Mind made the cut. Yeah. That's interesting. The whole thing is in there.

The only thing that I remember she definitely cut was a few of the numbers from the beginning when she's doing her own opening with the ballads. Yes, yes, yes, of course. You get Dangerously in Love into Flaws and All. And then she disappears into the stage and the renaissance begins. Love that.

But they cut the rest of it. So they cut I Care, they cut One Plus One. and you do see a little bit of the tina turner tribute but that's later in the movie yeah brilliant brilliant of course i mean that is she is the paragon the student of performance yeah it's like beyonce is the student of performance. Gaga is the student of like, let's just say art and like, yeah. Theater. Theater.

I think Ariana is a student of vocals. Rihanna is a student of coolness. Yeah. Um, Taylor's a student of songwriting. Rihanna's a student of vibes. Oh my God. And that is, that is a very hard thing to occupy.

I think all of the girlies have their specialty, their niche. It's not even a niche. It's like their superpower. Their stats are distributed differently. It's the only real way to describe Beyonce on stage is as superwoman.

Yes. I mean, I complimented Taylor on her actual like acting performance in the era's tour film. Beyonce is such an unbelievably focused, focused, committed, like she's just in it the whole time.

And the sense of fun and play especially after you see how seriously and how difficult how seriously she takes it and how difficult it was to achieve and to see her having fun doing the show and to see it all paying off in the moment to the point where she can be so like improvisational free because she knows it so well and she talks about that too she talks about how as a performer she is a storied perfectionist but the reason why she's that way is so that when the performance happens there can be that sense of fun because it's in your body and it is almost not robotic in like a derogatory or pejorative sense like but it's already there and so you can survive and live and thrive in what is happening in the moment

it's on the largest scale it's the whole idea of like knowing the rules to break them or yeah she is our best performer especially in those moments when at the show, I mean, everyone was noticing like that. She just knows where every shot and frame is. Down to like looking up at the, like to serve it up to a drone is, I don't know how to do that. No, I don't know if anyone besides Beyonce

knows how to do that so effortlessly. I mean, and also like we were there at the show. She was finding those cameras. I mean, like also like, we were there at the show. She was finding those cameras. I mean, like that was one of the things I clocked at the London show, which was in the documentary. Yes. Oh,

it was. Yes, it was. Cause she was wearing the London. There were two outfits that she, they show break my soul from London. Definitely. And they show the movie girl,

girl in many ways I was in the film very that but there was I was that was one of the things I was blown away with when I was there was I was like there's like this one moment where like a camera flies over her head I'm like it's like a suspended camera and she looks up

at it and makes eye contact with it and I'm like with everything that is going on... How do you pinpoint the exact 3D spatial coordinates of something that is up in the air? Do you know what I'm saying? It's hard to find that on an eyeline level.

100,000%. And that's just a commitment to the pinpoint accuracy of every decision. It's just a flawless piece of art almost feels too small. It's like, it is just such a feat of culture.

That's really what it is. It is a moment in culture. And to even say that on this podcast, where we talk about that we frivolously use those words this is just like the renaissance world tour is actually winning an award right now

are you serious? we're actually really thrilled to announce that the renaissance world tour is winning the pinnacle award there will only be three given out in our lifetime. Oh! And today

we have awarded the pinnacle award to Beyonce for the Renaissance World Tour. There are only two more left. It's like the Horcruxes. The Deathly Hallows. That's how the Horcruxes work. It's like the Deathly Hallows, hon. It's like the Horcruxes, girl.'s like the Deathly Hallows, hon. It's like the Horcruxes, girl.

Do you think there might be a special moment at next year's Culture Awards to honor Renaissance World Tour's pinnacle award? I think the pinnacle award is being given to the Renaissance World Tour

and there will be a moment in the show. I'm very excited about that. Which is not yet planned or confirmed. Speaking of moments, I actually thought about this and I did not consult with you. What? I think we should announce something

on this episode. What is it? I think we should announce that Because you're doing it and you're still not running it by me. What is it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Wow!

This is amazing. No, don't cut around it. This is... They want to see the BTS. They love the friendship. Yes, okay. So, if... Now, for any readers,

Katie's publicist finalists who have tapped out because they said, I don't want to listen to this bad sound quality episode, this is what they're missing. You missed out on something major. So, for all of you

who are sticking with us in this episode, thank you. And this is your reward. As we're approaching our 400th episode, we can now announce that the 400 episode special will be called iconic 400, the 400 people of culture. These are the top 400 most iconic

people, I would say living or dead or yet to be born in the culture. Realistic or fictional? And that was my surprise to you.

Can we announce number 400? No, we can't. We can't. But just to say this, we know who number 400 is. And it's... And it will start the list off in a way that will make you say,

I'm going to keep guessing. Oh, that is the perfect description. No one saw this coming. I think this person deserves the spot. 100%. This person is a

beacon, a legend, a vibe. This person is vibe, style, everything. You said a gender. This person is vibe, style, everything. You said a gender. I said a gender. That's okay. But this person is a vibe,

multidisciplinary legend. A talent. A huge talent, no matter in what context. Oh, God, it's very hard. It's so hard to be cagey about this. But needless to say we are very excited i know exactly the moment where we came up with this when was that we were in london on

our way to the airport to go to berlin yes i felt it in my and i've been thinking about it iconic 400 i'm so excited for this and we hope you are too. And it's coming up. Yeah. It's probably like in a few months. It might be. I'm going to venture to say bless you. Thank you so much, Queen. Four part episode.

I think it might even be more than four. Four part special. Okay. We're going to have to fly through it if it's four because that means 100 per episode.

Yeah, that would mean even if we spent one minute on every single person, that would be an hour and 40 minutes okay it might be five it might be the whole week it might be a whole week of lost culture it might be a monday through friday situation monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday each day of the week you get an episode oh my god and the way that people were were like they're gonna flop soon the way people were like they're going into their flop era.

They have seen their best days. Like, there's no way the podcast can be better. It's not iconic. There are flops. Everyone was saying flops. But this is a more substantial, important, prestigious list than Time 100. Oh, forget it. 40 Under 40. 40 under 40.

40 under 40. Forbes. This is the list of people. Animals. Now it's a real curveball, bitch. Icon of 400 includes animals? Whoa. Beings. Anything with a spirit is

eligible to be on the list. Can I say who's not on the list? Mother God. Amy Carlson is not on the list. And she would say, if she were still alive, she'd say, oh, well, all these other people who are on the list are actually me. See, this is what I'm saying. You cannot reason with people like her.

But what's crazy is that she gets multiple, a big group of people who agree with her and say yes you are communicating through robert williams yes you are like the next whitney houston it's it's so unbelievable what drugs can do to your brain i'm sorry i'm being such i'm being so dare right now i'm being so dare pilled i'm like drugs are bad maybe i don't even know if it's drugs. I have to say, because, can I ask you a question? Serious question. And sorry to even bring him up, but

if Donald Trump said, I spoke to Robin Williams last night in my dream and he told me that this is true, there would be a lot of his followers that would be like, yeah. Of course. No, it is like, lost people. Yeah. And it makes me sad that this is the human condition.

It makes me really sad that this is the human condition. And it also like, I just want to reach out. Can I say, if you're in a cult, reach out and touch somebody. Now you sound a little cultish. Oh, God. Yeah, but I would have a cool cult. You would have a cool cult. You would have a cool cult. What would it be called?

Mazin cult? Having a cult with the word cult in the name was the cuntiest thing of all. Cunt cult. Cunty culty. Cunty culty.

Cunt cult. It should be called Mazin cult. Cunter culture. No. Mazin cult. Go with your first instinct. All right.

Well, it's called maize and cult this fall on bravo it's time to turn up think you've seen it all i don't think you've been a good friend to me lately we're friends like that who needs enemies you ain't seen nothing yet cheers to being dramatic with the real housewives of potomac oh my gosh can i take this in it's gonna be amazing new york city everyone is a gossip no one gets a happier life salt lake city I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.

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Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.

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So by the time this airs, we'll have performed my song Rockefeller Santa on the Today Show with Hoda and Jenna looking on. Yes. We hope it went good. We hope it went good. If it went terribly,

we're so sorry. Yeah, I don't think it will go terribly, though. I think we're going to kind of eat and slay. It does not get more full circle than this. You wrote a song, bitch, about Rockefeller Center and about the people who work there and you're performing it there.

And then you ended up working there and we ended up performing it there. In front of people who are name-checked in the song. Literally. You did that. You know, there's rumors that I might have to fly around Rockefeller Center and get content with other people mentioned in the song so that they can put together a music video but yeah

oh my god I don't know who's gonna be in it but honey we're gonna find out honey it is it is a living building so watch that on YouTube they'll have posted it honey if you didn't see it yesterday live on the Today Show. Hoda and Jenna talked to us after, I think.

Oh, we're going to have an interview. We're going to have an interview. They don't know you're coming. Yeah, they might have the surprise room for them because we have to rehearse this and they're going to put it on the monitors. And I think Hoda and Jenna have the monitors. I think they're going to be seeing the monitors. I wanted to quickly touch on a couple other things before we get to Adam Thinks of Honey because we have not yet wrapped up

the morning show. We've had so many other pressing matters. Yes, it's time. I guess I just want to apologize because I was incorrectly informed that something happens in the finale of the morning show that was the craziest thing that's ever happened on the show. And I would say that in totality,

I think the craziest thing that's ever happened on the show is Bradley Jackson say that like in totality I think the craziest thing that's ever happened on the show is Bradley Jackson being at the insurrection getting found out by the FBI and going to prison that's probably in totality the craziest thing that's ever happened but nothing in the finale was like singular insanity in the way that

I think I set it up and was assuming it would be and I want to apologize for that because certainly the ninth episode was better than the tenth episode. Certainly, but I don't think you have anything to apologize for. You set it up that way based on what someone else had told you. Yeah, and I think that

that person articulated to me the season wraps up in the craziest way a season has. Which I think is debatable actually. A season of any television show? Of that show. I think the season two finale was bonkers. It was for sure bonkers.

I think Bradley at the insurrection, just those words. How can you top that? I mean, we're going to find out. Because that is one of the craziest moments in American history. Yeah. And so it's stranger than fiction.

You cannot make up something crazier than that. Maybe close second is Bradley Jackson going to space. I think so. Here's my question. Bradley in prison? Are her roots growing in red? Are her roots growing in red? Wait, I'm so sorry.

I was under the impression that her natural hair color was blonde and then she dyed her hair red for what she dyed her hair red for her adirondack conservative channel yeah first of all she was getting just off the shelf color anyway what i'm sure that's what they would say right well. Well, first of all, if we're to look at Reese's actual roots, she's a brunette queen. Reese is one of those actors who can look good in any haircut. Any hair. Her and Emma Stone. Face for wigs.

Face for wigs. Good for them. Not everyone has that. Anyway, yeah. I mean, Morning Show, I think it sort of ended with a whimper. Every episode was a bang. And so it's still my favorite show. Can't wait for season four. Are we going to see Bradley on trial?

Are we going to see her in prison? Are we going to see her broken out of jail? I mean, what? Certainly now they've made it really easy to shoot Jennifer and Reese separately. Certainly. There was a scene in the finale that the friends I was with were like, oh, they're not together in the same room. friends i was with were like oh they're not together in the same room and i was like are you serious which one it was when alex goes over to

bradley's apartment uh-huh it's very possible and it's crazy because their acting is so like good in that moment that you're like i wonder if they're together to them to think about them doing that with a stand-in blew me away i mean these are these actors are good they're together. That's a compliment to them. To think about them doing that with a stand-in blew me away. I mean, these actors are good. They're so good. Speaking of good acting, we talked about it last week. I can't believe how big and how large May-December is looming in the culture.

It is a hit. I mean, if something ends up on Netflix, it's getting seen. I have to say, Charles Melton won the Gotham for supporting performance. I believe he is a contender for the win. Absolutely. And now I'm pretty feeling pretty good about

Natalie and Julianne too. Yeah. How's it feel to share a trophy with him? I guess we do share a trophy with him. Wow. Unbelievable. Not the same trophy, obviously. Different categories, different years. But the same material of trophy which is a heavy trophy that one um where's yours my display awards i don't i don't

i don't i have the culture recess culture award on my office shelf but i don't i don't want to be that person i have nothing wrong with that person i just don't think that can i say i'm gonna be that yes if i ever if i ever win awards they will be they'll be somewhere in the house. Absolutely. More for me than anyone else. More to be like, hey, look, you did it. Girl, I have not had that many people over. That's what I'm saying.

If I display something, it's probably not for other people. Period. Well, that's not really true of your... We're in Bowen's sort of iconic apartment. And I have to say, Bowen just went to the bathroom for a minute and I tried every chair. These are unbelievable. These dining room chairs are unbelievable. He's got several different couches that are

so comfortable. Look at that piece under your television. It's so long. Oh, that's the Sonos soundbar. What? No, no, no. I'm talking about the sideboard. What is it called? The console. The console. The console. Anyway, I'm just such a fan of everything you've done here with the place, Queen.

Thank you, Queen. Alvin Wayne. Worked with Alvin Wayne. A dear, a doll. A true dear. I wanted to say, where do you sit on Kyle versus Sutton? Can I reveal that I am behind on Beverly Hills? I hear it's really picking up.

Beverly Hills is great this year. There are proxy wars happening is what I hear. But Kyle versus Sutton, I think Sutton, I mean, we talked about Sutton on the last episode. I am concerned. I don't know if she's turning it around for herself on the show, but I also, you know, I'm not like stanning Kyle. I never really have.

Maybe I don't really care about this fight. Okay, so basically Kyle being the protagonist of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I think that if you're a fan from Go, which I am, you kind of have to care because it's like Kyle and Mo. So it's like they're... Oh, Kyle and Mo. Well, the Kyle and Mo thing is just... So basically the thing is like Sutton is being very like,

what's going on? What's going on? What's going on? And thing is like sutton is being very like what's going on what's going on what's going on and kyle is like you're not being sensitive because kyle has stopped drinking and started working out a lot and she's you know things are going on she's now got this very close friendship quote-unquote with morgan wade this country singer who's got a lot of tattoos kyle's getting a lot of tattoos without telling her husband or anyone she's just kind of really doing her own thing and sutton is like what's Sutton is like, what's going on in your life? What's going on in your life? Like being very invasive.

And I think Kyle's problem is like, you know, you don't have a right to stand out, to treat me like this. You're not being a friend. You're not being sensitive. Like if something's going on, like let me just handle my shit the way that I am and trust that I'll tell you in time.

So can I just say the discourse about Kyle and Sutton? First of all, I'll say about Sutton high highs, low lows, totally high highs, low lows on this show. And it's hard to cape for a housewife like that in general on any franchise. And Kyle,

I would say high highs, low lows too, but here's Sutton's Southern girl prone to dramatics. Yeah. In a fun way that works for reality TV, but just in terms of like siding with her, I think it's- Well, she could never be like the lead of the show. You know what I mean?

Sutton is like this like orbital that comes in and out and you're just like, it's like an agent of chaos almost where you're like, I don't really understand this woman's reality and so i don't ever know what she's gonna give whereas kyle has been the star of the show for 13 years and she is so audience stand-in like yes that you really feel connected to her in that way i would say that one thing that hasn't been featuring into the show that much which i think people should consider when they come on a side of sutton or kyle with this whole thing is kyle

and trigger warning her best friend took her own life yeah like right before the season started and i think like if someone wants to stop drinking or start working out or make changes or like their relationship changes because of something they've went through, like jump in to call it a midlife crisis. Feels weird to me. And I don't like the way the women on the show are talking about Kyle's not drinking like it sucks for them. If someone not drinking is a problem for you, that is a problem for you. That is a serious problem for you that is a problem for you that is a serious problem for you and i haven't loved the way garcella's talked about it something for sure all of them and like even dorit who's like doing her best to do her job as a housewife it's just like i feel like

what's being lost in this show is that kyle suffered an immense personal tragedy and if you don't understand what she's going through, probably the best way to handle it is not to put her under a pressure cooker like this, but that's my thoughts on Beverly Hills. I haven't even watched Potomac. I did not watch last night. I couldn't care less. I read,

I skimmed through the Vulture recap. The recapper for Potomac is doing excellent work, but I don't envy her job because I think she has a lot of, she's just watching a lot of bummer footage. Yeah. It seems like this whole NECA Wendy thing is still going on and it's really tough. I feel like it's going to go on for a while.

Salt Lake. God, thank goodness. What a blessing. It's a blessing. And Miami. Also a blessing. I would say. I would say all those shows are blessings.

I have an opportunity to be on a podcast coming up called The Brav Bros. It's two straight men who talk about Bravo. They are so smart. They're really good. They're really good. I could listen to them talk about this all day. So I'm going on their show.

I can't wait. And they offered one spot to talk about Potomac and Southern Charm and another to talk about Miami, Beverly Hills and Salt Lake. And I was like, it has to be the latter because I will not talk about Potomac. I'm not getting into it. It's evil, evil, evil, evil, ugly, ugly. I wanted to say I saw the color purple. I'm going to withhold my review until it's closer.

Lots of great things. A couple things to discuss. But let's just say no one has anything to worry about about these goddamn performances. The performances are shining bright. I would give it a big old see it when it comes out on Christmas.

And we'll talk more about it as it comes. But I did see it. I just wanted to say that I have seen it since I said I was going to see it last time. I've seen it. Much to say. This is a moment in color purple. If I get the sense of what the vibe of the screening I saw was, this will be a moment in culture. I can't wait.

And I guess that's really it. I guess other than that, it's time to do I Don't Think So Honey unless you have any cultural addendums. Well, I was maybe thinking about doing this for I Don't Think So Honey,

but I think let's just, I just want to say this now. Speaking of the morning show. Oh, this is my I Don't Think So Honey. Oh, well then great. Is it Juliana? I'll leave that for you.

And then mine is Much Less of a Bummer. Okay, cool. Yeah. Great. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all?

I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's going to be amazing.

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I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts,

you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to levels to this with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with

Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that,

like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. And then I'll start with you. Yeah, we'll start with me this is i don't think so honey one minute to rant again something in culture and look it's just fucking too much at this point i gotta here we go this is matt rogers i don't think so many times starts now i don't think

so honey juliana margulies you should have kept your mouth shut on that podcast because now we hear you saying with your full chest, I'm sorry but those were racist things that you were saying. That was ridiculous. The way that she was referring to, the way she said the blacks, these people that want us to call them they

them, it's like say you respect people so much less without even I mean, it's not even without even saying it. You said it. You said it. Also, to drop this imagery of people getting their fucking heads cut off and, like, kicked around like a soccer ball. Can I just say, if Susan Sarandon is being dropped by her agency for what she said, Where is the movement on this with Julianna?

There will be no consequences. And you know what? Here's why. Cause she's probably making the agency a lot of money and that's bullshit. And like, this is a much bigger topic, but if we're going to do something about Sarandon, do something about this.

I don't think so. About everybody who is suffering some professional consequence for being pro Palestine. I'm sorry sorry but you know what and especially in a world where you can filter what someone actually said through something and then report on it this was on a podcast you heard her say it with her full chest and where is the movement where are the consequences i'm not seeing them i am not seeing them it's so i mean the the disturbing thing like the disturbing addendum to it all is like her saying that i'm more offended as a lesbian than i am as a jew

you are such a moron like she doesn't this woman's grasp on reality is like not there my view on it is just that like i am processing images and news in a way that I'm trying to detach as much as possible from social media. I'm obviously learning, I'm being very informed by it as we all are. But I think if you're at all able to have conversations offline, I think that is on its face. There's a higher floor there, I think, than what can be done on social media. And I think what's driving people to say really wild things, like maybe what Julianna Margulies is saying on podcasts, is I think her feed is probably completely infected by bullshit like what you repeated on that podcast. I think you're probably right.

Shocking. I mean, the, they, them, her language was actually disgusting. She fucking sucks. And that's what she believes.

That's what she believes. And that apology. I don't buy for one second. And I'm sorry, but this bad faith conflation with wanting human rights for people in Palestine and in Gaza with anti-Semitism has gotta

stop. Also, I don't think so many Hollywood reporters are still confusing me and Jill Kim Booster in an article about this whole Juliana Margulies thing, an article that's reporting on racism. How funny is that? How ironic is that? It made me so upset. It's an article reporting on racism, and then you do the racist bullshit of Saturday Night Live comedian Joel Kim Booster.

For the second time. Give me a fucking break. Like, this is your job. These trades, this is your fucking job to get this shit right. You know, we're not going to talk about that show, and then, like, when one of the stars says something like that, just be like, we'll skip around it. That would make me really feel uncomfortable.

Okay. I have something. Girlina Magoo. I have something. Bowen has something. This is Bowen Young's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey,

I wasn't able to put my poor thing screener onto my apple tv why i need to be able to watch this on a larger screen than my computer little issues girl and all week i'm going into work wanting to compliment emma on what might win her another oscar period and then her team was kind enough to send everybody at work a link. And I was, we were all so excited.

We were like, oh my God, I would love, maybe I'll have people over and we can watch, we can watch it together. It couldn't happen. All I could do

was Chromecast it. I'm sorry. I only have certain Google things in my house. I don't want to do a little Chromecast dongle on my television. 15. I can't believe that this is getting in the way of my viewing experience.

I'm not going to watch the latest Yorgos on a small screen, period. Okay, this is cinema of the highest order. Five, I need to experience it as such. And if I can't do it in a theater with other cinephiles and other movie lovers, then I want to do it in the comfort of my own home, but not from the comfort of a hot computer on my chest. That is one minute. And I think that's just a sign

that you're going to have to experience Yorgos Lanthimos' Poor Things in theaters starring Emma Stone, Mark Ruffalo, and more. And more.

I'm just saying, and Willem Dafoe, let's not forget. And Rami Yusuf. I'm just saying, I was so invigorated by the promise of being able to watch poor things from my own

couch and I couldn't do that and it was a huge disappointment the fact that the screener technology still is not there it's so stupid stop sending DVDs yeah that's the thing it's like if you're in SAG or WGA you know this but if you're someone

listening at home can you actually believe they still send physical copies of all these things? And no one has a DVD player to watch them. I guess it's for the older membership. But even so, like, the older members know how to use a computer. Period.

Also, do their computers have disk drives anymore? That's another thing. First of all, even if you are an older member of the academy or of some guild and you are a traditionalist and you like to use the DVD, it's like, okay, the times

are changing. They're changing. Now it's a link you can click instead of a physical DVD. It makes it way easier. Anyway, girl, I just feel like I'm being fucking blue balled here with good movies. I'm so excited to see it.

I cannot wait. I saw the first, like, I mean, I pressed play because I had to on my computer. I was like, whatever,

I'll just like see the first couple moments of this. And of course, I'm drawn in. Everyone I've talked to has said it's the performance of the year.

Of course, I'm like, 15 minutes go by and I'm like, I can't, I had to stop myself and I'm really proud of myself for of the year of course I'm like 15 minutes go by and I had to stop myself and I'm really proud of myself I'm watching this on a big screen but the first moments of the film I'm like what is going on oh my god what is that

there's a little goose head on a fucking dog body oh my god like I was just he went somewhere listen to my voice I need my instrument was just acting. He went somewhere. Listen to my voice. Girl, this queen right here. I need my instrument. Christmas is like a high wire act

for all of us, but especially for Matt obviously, but all of us are here being like our king needs to sing. The album has crossed 2 million streams. 2 million club. My one song, I Don't Need It To Be Christmas At All, is right now at 1.5

million streams. It has been the sleeper hit. The power of the Spotify playlist. Please come to the show, everybody. We're having such a fun time with the show. The band is a sleigh and a half. The Gay Strangers. Give it up for the Gay Strangers. Talk about, in Boston, this person in a Grinch costume.

Someone was in a Grinch costume. And you brought them on stage? So I'm not going to reveal how I start the number, but let's just say I wasn't even there. A special guest came out to sing Hottest Female Love in Whoville. And she saw that someone in the

audience was dressed as the Grinch. Christine Baranski? No, it wasn't her. It was who Christine Baranski played in the movie. She actually showed up. It's like a Santa figure. For a second, I thought you were going to say that a grown-up Cindy Lou who, and I thought fucking

Taylor Momsen? I thought Miss Taylor Momsen. No, no, no, no. Let's just say I leave the stage and then someone else comes back out. Okay, I see. To sing Hottest Female Ever Who Will. And there was someone dressed as a Grinch and I pointed to him. I mean, she pointed to him and said, get up here. And there was a strip tease moment.

It was hot, sexy, and more. And more. And the shows have been really fun. I love doing it with the band. It's just great. These crowds look awesome. The crowds have been amazing. I sign vinyls with the band. It's just great. These crowds look awesome. The crowds have been amazing.

I sign vinyls after the show. So if you come, you can buy a vinyl and some other merch, and I'll sign it for you. We can hang out for a sec. And you can go to www.mattrodgersofficial.com for tickets and tour info and more. Girl, is it official now? Have you beat the SEO? And are you the first Matt Rogers that comes up?

I actually, that's happened for quite a bit of time. I knew it. I don't think we ever celebrated that. I mean, that's fine. And we all love and respect the other Matt Rogers's of the internet. You are all legends who have come before me. You are all legends, but for now I'm really toasting it to my girl

who deserves her Google flowers. We just got a text from Mamas Who Connect, which is our text chain with Joke and Booster, and he said, Karen's tagline is up there as one of the most nonsense taglines in history. Most of these women are

despicable. It's impossible to enjoy now. With the exception of Karen, Candice, and Wendy. We love you guys, but everyone else is actually... I thought today, I was like, Giselle is evil. Giselle is an evil person. I just told him, we just read this on the podcast live. Love it.

We love that. Joel has to come back soon. Joel, it's time for your return. They're clamoring. They're thinking we're beefing on the Reddit. Why? Because he hasn't been on a tenth time? So they're like, they're beefing.

Y'all are ridiculous. What do you mean? We never look at the Reddit. Why? Because he hasn't been on a tenth time? So they're like, they're beefing. Y'all are ridiculous. What do you mean? We never look at the Reddit. Just kidding. We love you. Love y'all. Love y'all. Be yourselves. We end every episode with a song. It seems to me you live your life like a candle in the wind.

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