Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Nasal & Ridiculous"

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

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Yeah. This is going to be a fun little meditation, exploration, rumination. A jaunt. A jaunt. This is the first episode that you and I have done just us since the beginning. Since the first step. Yeah. If you go back and listen to that. I haven't done it. Every now, once a year, I'll go back and listen to the first episode that you and I have done just us since the beginning. Since the first step. If you go back and listen to that. I haven't done it.

Every now, once a year, I'll go back and listen to the first step just to like hear myself. Like I'm in a fully different octave. Like the years have like withered me, I think. Do you remember the segment that we used to do, which was Culture of the Week? Culture of the Week. And our bit was that it was always Disney. We were like, we're going to do a segment called Culture of the week and it's every week it's gonna be something about disney yeah and it's like the theme park the winner of culture of the week is disney again

um i miss that it didn't last it didn't last but i mean i've gotta say not much has changed no not really is it besides the doing the topical episodes of it all like the first episode is called the Grammys like our pilot episode is called the Grammys and I do kind of love that I think it's great you know and this is just me like being one of those damn

trollmongers where I just read the reviews we've both been very open about us reading them I read them a lot more than I let on absolutely same and one of them was really nice where I just read the reviews. We've both been very open about us reading them. I read them a lot more than I let on. Absolutely same. And one of them was really nice where they said, if you listen to them in reverse order,

you're able to track how the friendship grows and they challenge each other. I saw that too. And that made me feel really nice. Suffice it to say, you guys, don't panic. Don't panic. There's just going to be a change with the podcast going forward and it is a little hard to talk about but just because it is going to be a major change but lost culture recess is going to be continuing on another network yes we don't know which network yeah Yeah. But right now we have just figured out that we just want some, whatever, not to use this word that's so overused, but just space.

Just space to figure out what makes the most sense for us in terms of how we operate and how Matt and I record episodes on different coasts or when we're on the same coast and how that all sort of gets organized. Yeah. record episodes on different coasts or when we're on the same coast and how that all sort of gets organized. Yeah. Just operationally, you guys, so much has changed and so much changed about Bowen and I's day to day. Honestly, in ways that have,

I think really blown my mind. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I don't, I think that, you know, four years, I'm sorry,

I get emotional as I talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think it's just, Oh my God, I can't even believe I'm like this. No, I get emotional as I talk about it. Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's just, oh my God, I can't even believe I'm like this.

No. I think the reason it matters so much is because, you know, Joe and Alex are dear friends. Yeah. And we really did just start this out for fun. I know. And so... It's...

I don't know why it feels like a bigger deal than it has to be, but it is a big deal. I think it's to scale. I think it's i don't know why it feels like a bigger deal than it has to be but it is a big deal i think it's to scale i think it's um this this might be very self-indulgent but i feel like the the relationship that you and i have with joe and alex and emma um is very very very very very special just because we sort of went through this crucible together whatever of just like truly building this from the ground up and right acknowledging the fact that it none of this would have been possible without them oh no not at all and seeing forever dog grows at network and like acquire all this talent and work on all these amazing

projects is is so so so so so beautiful yeah it's really just very gratifying to know that you know we we talk about it sometimes on the pod but we truly started this like in um a living room in a living room um and and alex would put the mattress up in the window space so that we wouldn't have any sound coming in this is before this is emma this is like i think two years before you were even here um so and i always like i'm a little kooky and i always think like four years is a good amount of time for things to change yeah yeah just with me being in los angeles now and you being here and those being kind of like fixed things now, we just need to figure out a new way, a smarter way,

um, a more tenable. Yeah. Just way to, way to do this. And we want to try to keep the podcast as same as it can be. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I think that we both love what it is. Right. And we don't know where we're going. We should also say that. We don't know where we're going. As we've said, uh, we both love what it is. Right. And we don't know where we're going. We should also say that. We don't know where we're going, as we've said. We love what the podcast is. I think that's why...

This is what the episode's gonna be. I think we're just gonna, like, talk about ourselves. I'm, like, crying. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I feel like...

You're not making it a bigger deal than it is because I think it's a big deal for us to... It was a really, really, really really really hard decision to come to and you and I it was not like a yeah okay let's do this it wasn't like a finally it was like a very kind of like fraught thing and so suffice it to say

that we just want to say thank you so much to Forever Dog who let us completely do us. It's a place where they didn't presume anything about what a successful show looked like, and they truly, we've never gotten any note from them to dial it down or... Make episodes shorter.

Like, or believe that never like truly creatively, no notes, like no, no point where it was like, what? Like, how dare you?

That episode is nine hours long, but, um, and also like, but that is so special. And you know what? I don't know that a podcast with the two of us four years ago called Las Culturistas with oneistas with one half a segment, which is basically sort of just like a first thought, like a minute long rant, would have sold anywhere else.

No. They, whatever. They took a chance on us. Truly. And also not for nothing, but it's been such a, I guess, like symbiotic. Is that a positive thing? A symbiotic? Yes, yes, yes.

Okay. It's been a symbiotic relationship because I genuinely feel like we've grown as Forever Dog has grown. And we know that so many of you guys that listen to Las Culturistas also love Seek Treatment and The Worst and The Unofficial Expert and Beyond and all these amazing podcasts that are on the network. And I think what we want to say is that we hope to have a strong, positive relationship with all of those podcasts going forward

because it's only so much love. This is just going to be an earnest ass motherfucking episode, because I keep thinking about this quote. Someone asked Tony Hill recently. I think it was at Vulture Fest. Who is this bitch ringing in? Who is this bitch ringing in? Who is this bitch trying to ring up?

Surprise guest. Yeah, do whatever you want. Bitch trying to ring a surprise guest. Yeah. Yeah, do whatever you want. Tony Hill was in this interview recently. It was at Vulture Fest, and someone asked him, like, just generic career advice. And he said something along the lines of, like,

before you invest in a career, invest in a community. Which, like, kind of blew my mind. I was like, oh, that's kind of like... So true. That like kind of blew my mind i was like oh that's kind of like so true that's kind of been like the the buttress thing that like i've been very lucky that we've both been very lucky to have just like absolutely friends just people who like get each other beyond just like find your tribe stuff it's just like really like people who are different than you it's not it's this thing where like the network like invested in an alt comedy scene that like any other network would have not known what to do with and let them go fucking bonkers like yeah oh really oh patty laura you guys want to do a crazy fucked up like i was just looking at

the picture of a woman's smile behind you on the back, and it's just so insane and brilliant. That show is, like, I'm sure there have been no creative notes from them. You know, it's like, like, yes, yes, like, you have a fucking soundboard. Just, like, press all the buttons. Like, it's like, I don't think,

I don't think any other network would have really just, like, given completely free domain to anybody, just anybody, but especially people in that sort of... And there's a high bar now. There's a high bar now. Not all of us can be a woman's smile.

Not all of us can be fuckhead musical for us. What do you mean? I meant for us going forward, our next network, bitch network has a bar to meet now forever dog isn't just fielding all pitches no honey your pitch better be assented give it something extra

make a butterfly fly out of the invitation like in bridesmaids but yeah I know it's very emotional to be like back here like tonight I'm doing my show and you know I feel, it's very emotional to be like back here. Like tonight I'm, I'm doing my show and you know, I feel like it's just so crazy how everything has changed. You know, like I think about like when we started the podcast and we were just like

trying to get a run at UCB and trying to get a house team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know,

um, and, and we would be, and we would record an episode every month. Well, we were so bad about recording them. We were so bad about recording them. But also, I mean, just Alex and Joe were like, maybe you guys should do one episode a week. Like, let's talk about cadence and release schedules

and all this stuff. And we're like, whatever. I remember saying to you a couple times, like, we owe them an episode. We have to go in. We owe them an episode and we're like whatever i remember saying to you a couple times like we owe them an episode we have to go in we're like way behind we we said we would do this and then for like and then fast forward like two and a half years of weekly episodes non-stop like you know we've been going yeah and like i haven't felt any sort of fatigue around no i still love doing this this is this is my favorite thing this is this is um yeah this is like a career highlight for me too i think and it's just like um and i'm using present

tense like this is like i mean yes the the the don't panic sort of message from uh that matt just sort of like called out in the beginning like Like that's, that's, that's, that's real. Like this, this show shows by no means over. No, no, no, no. Um, our,

again, our relationship with forever dog is by no means over. Um, it's just about sort of distributing it and planning it logistically. And we really don't even know how we're going to do that. And that's going to be part of the fun is, you know, like,

I'm sure that, um, as we do continue on, like whoever we start to partner with is going to have more ideas and is going to have probably good ones, probably ones that don't work. But I think that's part of what makes this not just a podcast but an extension of me and Bowen as comedians

is we're going to be trying things out. And to be honest with you, I was always kind of crazed about this idea of you and I recording remotely just because I'm so fearful that the energy won't be there. But truly, it's gotten to the point now where it's like, I don't know how else we will do it. But we will. Okay, this is some, like, inside baseball. Not inside baseball baseball but this is just like a peek into like the discussions that we have internally is that matt and i are not

currently but like in the recent past have been have sort of been at this discussion point around well if we like here here's it's like a pick two yeah okay so you pick two you either so you release one episode a week you record in in the same studio yeah and you make it topical yeah so you pick two you can't make it topical if you want to make it topical and record every week you can't be on the same coast yeah i don't know what's better i would actually honestly love to hear from everyone yeah to be honest with you would you rather hear us um would you rather feel like because i always feel like lost culture is this as we have like a creative discussion with you the listeners but honestly that is really what makes the show is we want i love to hear i love to i love to hear good bad truly even like the shitty reviews

like stung at first but now i read them and i'm like okay it's an exchange um so i would wonder because for me the podcast is we bring in a guest yeah we find out about their cultural upbringings beginnings influences and a conversation starts from there and we also contribute to that um with some light topical takes with i don't think so honey but it doesn't necessarily have to be topical right but i also do think there's something really um great about being able to give fresh takes on things as they happen like for example what are you thinking of i have one example that i love well like for example well there's the amarosa episode so basically when we recorded

that episode with aya debory and she had come in and it was which by the way in retrospect was not a big deal really it was just another day in the news cycle but for that week it dominated yes but when omarosa touched down when hurricane omarosa hit the damn coast and we were emphatic that we had to release the episode that day. That actually was one of my favorite episodes. That was one of my favorite episodes, especially in a really formally experimental episode where we started out with the Omarosa interview.

Yes, that was experimental for us. Starting out with media. Anyone who ever doubted him and looked into McDonald's and he was disagreed disagreed we'll bow wait what did she say we'll have to bow down to the most powerful man in the universe what a psycho i love it it's so funny and destructive and terrible and like god and ultimately like ultimately we will kill us all yeah

yeah but so there's that and then there's also the fact that like sometimes we release episodes that y'all don't even know we did a month and a half ago and they're fine but i think they get but you got you guys can tell when sometimes they can tell i'm always embarrassed when i hear myself like for example the gina rodriguez thing sure okay let's let's talk about the gina rodriguez that was so annoying you guys because not your fault no it was because no well i i should have i should know better than to risk trusting someone as a volatile as miss rodriguez you didn't know how volatile she was she could at any second turn around and say a damn slur. It is apparent now.

Sure. But I was always very suspicious of her after her Hollywood Reporter roundtable. So I was like, something's going on there. You really were. You really were. You did say that. And I was like, Bowen, stop. I really was very dismissive of your reservations about Gina. My Gina trutherism.

Yeah. I was just like, there's something going, like she's, there's a little bit of mania going on there. Definitely. And like, which is beautiful, and like it's great,

like please let that exist as it is, unless she slips up and raps to the, raps the N word and posts it. Like, you have to have so many missing filters in your brain To be like yes and now we Post post post You can't do that

But okay so the Gina thing But I think you have nothing to be embarrassed about Well it was just I literally said the words I stabbed Gina Rodriguez The week after that The week after that happened It wasn't even the first day It wasn't even the first day you shit it wasn't even the first

day they were giving me shit it was like two days after the episode had been out they were like wow that's crazy that you said that and i was like wait what and then i thought everyone was like well it's obvious that you back loud because you announced the date in the beginning of the episode but still i don't want that out there oh so i promptly didn't i don't think so honey gina rodriguez on the next show which happened to be Topical. It was Topical. Well, I got to ask, is it annoying? Because I feel like I'm usually the person who's like, we're recording this on this date. It doesn't annoy me.

I actually, no, now it's kind of, I mean, it saved my life that day. Otherwise, I would have been out here standing Gina Rodriguez fresh off a slur. No context. Yeah. No chronological context. I think, so what was the pick two again it was uh same coast topical weekly release i mean i guess i guess ideally for any like any old podcast it's like ideally what you'd want is that both of us in the same spot doing it we have a fixed point every week yeah well we do it but that is now not logistically feasible so i don't know i think we'll just figure it out with with whoever we are

with yeah are you um here's the thing i feel like your sticking point is still we have the magic the chemistry has to be in the room in the same physical space can i tell you another reason why why i like this yeah it's because something i about myself, and I'll reveal this to you, which is why whenever we interview people together, why I like to sit on the outside is because I get very nervous still with people that we're about to interview. I get anxious.

Is it mitigated in any way if you are talking to them from across the computer screen? Well, yeah, that would be, but I'll be in los angeles which is where a lot of people we haven't gotten live and then they're going to come in and like julia styles it's going to be sitting next to me and it's going to be me and julia styles and then like you're going to be on a damn computer 30 seconds before we start and it's going to be like hi that's bowen yes yes yes and i've been sitting there with jul Stiles for six or seven minutes.

Pretend, pretends even 15. Pretend even 15. I totally hear you. I totally hear you. I get a little skittish with that stuff. I get it.

I get it. Like I see, I literally watched last night the episode of you on SNL and you like hugging Scarlett Johansson and making that face.

I was like, oh my God, this was so fun. Bye. Like I was just like, how, how do you do it? Because we just spent time all week.

And that's just like, honey, that's just like, that was just like a full like culmination of that. By the way, on the record, I'll say it really, really like cool to be around Scar Jo,

like a good hang. Can you imagine us three years ago? No. Like listening to this. Whatever. imagine us three years ago? No. Like listening to this. Whatever. Hearing us be like, we stan Gina Rodriguez and you have to hear people out.

Please. Please. And also. I mean, no. I mean, look. No, she's a great fucking SNL host. Oh, I was. What a good episode.

It was a fun episode. Where are you with the whole Oscars race? We had a little discussion about this in the text thread today. You think it's going to be Renee? you well you said that you believe that scarlet will win an oscar i think she will definitely get the nomination i think she might get two nominations for jojo i think she'll get a nomination for marriage story i support her nomination and jojo rabbit i support her nomination now i just it's it's for me it's i was i was on

film experience today yes as i Yes, as I've been. As you've been. This is such a fun time of year for all of us, of course. But especially to go on Film Experience. Yes, of course. It's the filmexperience.net season. Season. And just reading up on what Nate's been saying.

Yeah. And he seems to think that Renee's a lock. Yes, I would agree. Renee's a lock, but I feel like it's not super crowded this year. Did you see Judy? I did not see Judy yet. Okay, so as someone who saw Judy, let me tell you, it is an absolutely stunning ten of a performance

in an absolute six of a film. Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which to me is like, you know, they say that matters less with the best actress nominees and but not and not so with the best actor no kind of like films that get nominated for best picture often scoop along their lead actor performances yes um which by the way lead actor is very competitive very competitive this year i will will say, last night, I saw another Best Actress contender. Bombshell.

I saw Bombshell. So the thing about Bombshell is, and I love all the actors in it. What a cast. What an amazing cast. Darcy. Darcy's in it. Kate McKinnon's great in the film. Very good performances.

Pretty much all around it is a tv movie okay it's like a it's like it's i wouldn't even give it like game change level or like recount level but and and those are both and those are both tv oh those are but but but i'm saying like those are hbo films yeah yeah this to me felt like so like an HBO film, not even it to me was, it was like that pedigree was like on screen. I just, I feel like I've always had a lot of trepidation about this movie coming out because it's about Fox news.

Right. And while I think what happened to the women there is tragic and fucked up and Roger Ailes was a monster. I guess there's an interesting take there to be found about how like... An institution gets questioned and challenged. It's so weird to think, what is the message of this movie? Uh-huh. Even after seeing it, you have this thought?

Right, because obviously sexual harassment is acceptable nowhere right right but and it is interesting to see it happening to these women um but i wish the movie had more of a take sure okay i just wish it was thrillingly told or like super dramatically compelling or us or or even really emotional it wasn't did you feel like it was presenting you with like an array of like takes or anything? Or was it was, it was kind of just like misogyny happens. It happened here.

Sexual harassment happens. It happened here. And it's like, I almost felt like, like we're, we're, we're past that in the, in the cultural discussion.

Right. You know what? Maybe you had something to do with like the Megyn Kelly of it all. But you, you, you, you thought Charlize was great. Charlize was good.

Yeah. She was good. My problem with the movie though, is that. Oh, Megyn Kelly is a figure. Like the real Megyn Kelly. I wish it,

I wish that I got a better sense of her. You know what I mean? I didn't get a good sense of her. I got that she was good at her job and they sort of hinted that she didn't like being called a feminist and like was allergic to that word yeah and she kind of like definitely had a difficult time with the uh sort of threats to her safety and her family safety that came along with the trump yeah thing after she asked the debate question of him. But I don't know. In seeing her gather support at Fox News against Roger Ailes,

I felt like it could have been more dramatically or compellingly told how she got to that point as a person from being a company woman to being the kind of person who was like, let's bring down my boss, the man who gave me a career. Right. But correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like the story, just in the journalism of it all, was that it was mostly Gretchen who is sort of- Yes. And this is where I think the movie could have done with a little bit more dramatic embellishment.

Okay. Yeah. I think we could have had more scenes with Nicoleicole and charlie's because there's almost none really yes and so like for example like um like uh mary queen of scotts yes you know they didn't have real scenes together in life but you saw them because it was dramatically compelling this movie was an article yeah it was literally like an like an like a like a like a feature in like like some like a huge bomb trial yeah it was like a new york magazine article come to life okay and which is other movie hustlers true but but even but hustlers was like fun to watch sure this movie wasn't even fun to watch it was it was it really should have been too because it looks like it's gonna be i mean that trailer that they showed which was just them in the elevator yeah so that's a whole scene from the film oh interesting but there's like no dialogue

very little yeah and and i but i loved that because you could feel the tension and i i was like i wish this was more imbued in the movie this sense of like like, anything could happen. Yeah, the sense of stakes. But meanwhile, the whole story is just all stakes, right? So that's probably what's so bizarre to you. Yeah. That's the thing. There's a couple really good scenes in the movie.

And they both have Margot Robbie. And Margot Robbie's really good in the movie. Better when she has big stuff to play, I think. Like you're talking about like I, Tonya? Yes. I think that when she's got a character to play, she's really, really good. And she creates herself a character here.

Yes, yes. And this young woman who comes to Fox News and she really wants to be on camera talent and is like sort of willing to do anything within bounds to get there. And Roger Ailes presents the situation that that she finds herself in and it's obviously it's harassment yeah and it it rises to a certain level i won't spoil anything okay but you're saying that these two scenes two good scenes happen with her which is the scene where she is talking to john Lithgow as Roger Ailes.

And he's saying to her, you know, there's certain things I need to see or have proven to me if I'm going to consider you as on-air talent. Yeah. And then you do see it play out a little bit, just how uncomfortable the situation was. And you see the harassment happen. I mean, I'm going to say that's like very interesting.

That's compelling. Right. And then there's a scene later when she reveals to Kate McKinnon how far she's let it go on. And those are two really compelling scenes. And Margot Robbie had like an arc. My problem is that like the movie sort of just sort of tells the real story of fox news in its way and they break it up between these three characters where it's like gretchen carlson making a stir and basically she gets fired from fox news and then nicole spends the whole rest of the film like

on the phone in her kitchen in a thin sweater yeah like just kind of like well what's happening now and you don't know and then me Megyn Kelly the whole time is like, sort of slowly being fed up with the patriarchy and realizing she has to do something. Like, she finally does the right thing and stands up for women. Right. But it just wasn't dramatically compelling. Okay.

Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. And my last point about it. Yes. Sorry, I'm just listening to you and i can't really contribute because i haven't seen it but i think i'm curious to think what what you'll when i think when you see it because for me it just it didn't work and it could have been so

great my other big thing with this movie is they make such a big deal about making charlize theron like indistinguishable from meganyn Kelly it like just make her look so much like her her face looks like she does like a voice just like the trailer sounds so much like her and and she's very much doing Megyn Kelly and she exists in the film like as Megyn Kelly in this way where it's like a very

about the impersonation whereas Nicole doesn't even try doing a Gretchen Carlson, doesn't look like her, to the point where it's like, you got one person doing a full caricature and one person who, as a result of that, she just looks even more miscast.

Okay. Are you at a point now of Nicole fatigue or no? I don't ever have Nicole fatigue. Yeah, okay. But you're just being critical. I will always call things as they see them yes like the truth say I'm a truth

teller and a seer yeah I'm a seer the Nicole nomination for bombshell for sag is like what well for doing what it's like the nomination for God what's there some some Oh sag is whack it's like the morning show nominations at the

golden globes uh yeah and this wait a minute oh yes that's right these are all bought yeah yeah and it's well they're bought and also it's like actors voting for who they love and respect well for sag i get a sag i get nicole yeah i'm talking about globes it's like globes are wild globes are fucking wild this year i'm sorry i can publicly say's like, Globes are wild. Globes are fucking wild this year. I'm sorry. I can publicly say that. Yeah, the Globes are wild and we're, we're walking on eggshells

so that Bowen can publicly say. Right? I, that's the big change. That's the big change. I used to be unshackled. I think, I mean,

I just, I truly like glanced at the nominee, the nominees for Golden Globes and I was just like, okay, like I truly was like, I haven't really revisited it because it just, it was just so upsetting, I truly like glanced at the nominees for Golden Globes, and I was just like, okay, Pat. Like, I truly was like, I haven't really revisited it because it was just so upsetting.

Yeah. I was like, what the fuck? Really? Like, and truly not to be a damn portman about it, but like the director's thing is crazy. It's so foolish. Foolish. I look at the list this year, and I'm so not excited about it because it's so like male. Like, what is 1917?

I don't know. What is that? But, I mean, but fucking Nate's putting it on his prediction index for Oscars. I saw that, and it's getting nominations everywhere, and I'm like, what is it? I'm sure, I'm sure,

I'm sure once we see it, we'll love it. Yeah, well, Chris Schleicher was explaining it to me. It's like, oh, it's a World War I movie, and I'm like, oh, God, the hardest pass.

The hardest pass. I mean, it's for the dads. We gotta give it to the dads. You gotta give it's for the dads we gotta give it to the dads you gotta give it to the dads you gotta give something to the dads the gays are eating really well

lately and I think the gays are fed the gays are fed I gotta see Portrait of a Lady on Fire oh I heard it's great I gotta have you still

haven't seen Parasite yet no oh my god Matt what are you doing it's I know I heard it's the best movie of the year I can't stop thinking about it.

What else have you seen that you've liked? Or not liked? Because I just went off on a thought show. I haven't been good so far because I feel like it's just such a condensed season, it feels like. Yeah. Just in terms of length.

But I feel like... You've been getting your screeners? They're at my old apartment. I gotta pick them up. But I really loved Marriage Story I love Marriage Story too really I saw Jojo Rabbit

Jojo Rabbit and Marriage Story like the last two like buzzy movies that I saw Parasite you had a Scarlet-a-thon had a Scarlet-a-thon just very yeah

unconsciously subconsciously um talk about Marriage Story Sudie said something really fun to me last night she goes the people who like don't get marriage to her are people

who don't understand the Baumbach sort of tone and the whole thing about Baumbach is that he is he is very self-aware about what the movies are

like did you see Mistress America no actually I didn't Cuckoo Cuckoo Cat Cohen yeah movie where

Greta Gerwig is being like a full ass weirdo eccentric and uh Lola Kirk is being like a full ass weirdo eccentric. And Lola Kirk is being, is like sort of the great, like sort of, you know, surrogate for the audience and stuff.

But it's like, it has some great Veselka scenes. I gotta say. We love a Veselka scene. Thank you. Shout out Ocean's 8. And it's just like, it's one of those movies that's just,

it feels like a Neil Simon play. It's just like, so like self-contained, but also it's just like, it's one of those movies that's just, it feels like a Neil Simon play. It's just like so like self-contained, but also it's just a weird, bizarre movie that you're like, oh, like capital I Indy. And then, but then you realize it's like, it's self-aware in this way where it's like, he knows that it's just like pretty frivolous and like that the writing is like out there and wacko and whatever. And so I feel like it's the same thing with Marriage Story where it's like he knows that it's a very like small movie in a way.

Right? Well, it's really about two people and their relationship and what happens when they consult the outside forces when they realize it's not working. I really loved it. I loved it. And people just pointed out aptly realize it's not working. I really loved it. I loved it. And people just pointed out aptly that it's just like,

sort of the great thing about it is that it's not placing blame on anybody. It's just like, it's just what happens. Well, spoiler alert, they have a major fight in the movie, which honestly, it's now kind of becoming a meme.

That's a meme, yeah. In a way. Rightfully so, it's pretty iconic. But as they're ripping's a meme, yeah, yeah, yeah. In a way. Rightfully so, it's pretty iconic. But as they're ripping each other apart, which they've never done, you realize how much is in the script. Yes, there's so much in the script.

There is so much in that script. That's being set up in the lead up to that fight, yeah. Yeah, and honestly, you realize how kind of good they've been about hiding their feelings you know to keep their kid out of it and to not hurt each other and then when they stop caring about that yeah and really go for each other it's like i mean adam driver adam driver is wildly good very good very good and also saying all those things that you don't mean, like that really like hit a chord with me. That and also the end of the movie

when she goes to tie his shoe. I was like, this is so, that's really, really beautiful. That's such a good touch. Just to show that you're never going to stop caring about the person and not wanting that person to like fall down. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And obviously the letter the letter was just like you knew it was important you knew it was like okay she's not saying this she doesn't want to read this aloud like you knew it was gonna come back in some way but like the way it came back wasn't like super clever or anything it wasn't trying to be like mind-blowing it was just like very

effective and elegant I love that really really good and I'll say again I think Scarlett's great in it. I think Adam is just... His acting when he's reading that letter and that pause he takes just to get himself together, he's like

a real, real, real actor. Yes, yes. I could have probably done without the scene of him singing Being Alive. I don't think the movie needed that. But you got... It kind of mirrored Scarlett singing a musical theater, singing a Sondheim thing too. Oh yeah, sure. I think it kind of just like, I think that was kind of the device.

Not that it was a device, but that was sort of like the little thing. What did you think of Dern? I thought she was great. She's so good. I thought she was great. Leota was great. They were all great. I thought she was great. Leona was great. They were all great. I mean, the whole cast was great.

Oh, God. She's a stand-up. She's so funny. Martha Kelly. Martha Kelly. That was like a sketch to me. It was so funny. And I was like, this is a great comedy piece in the movie.

Like, so fun. Yeah. Honestly, she was so good in the movie. And I've known Martha for a little while. You've known Martha. I actually, you know what? Me and Pat competed against Martha in Boast Rattle. Oh my God.

And who's she paired with? She was paired with someone that she beat. Okay. And then there was someone else. And then me and Pat were paired against each other. And the audience decided to take us both to the finals. There was no winner. Oh, that's nice. So me and Pat were paired against each other. And the audience decided to take us both to the finals. There was no winner. Oh, that's nice.

So me and Pat faced off against someone. And I'm so sorry for not forgetting. And Martha. And Martha won. Of course. She's just so compelling to watch. She's so good. She's so good.

You're like, this is such an interesting character. Like, who is that? And also, just like, you can feel. And this is not in a pejorative way. But you can feel like her booking it in the audition. Like, who is that? And also just like, you can feel not, and this not in a pejorative way, but you can feel like her booking it in the audition. You know what I mean? Like she came in with that choice on the cast. People were like,

yeah, sure. Does your dad do that every day? Like just, yeah. Performance is so good. Also enough or nothing, but I identify with Laura's energy in this.

You, I was thinking about you the whole time. I was like, this is Matt Rogers. Yeah. I was, I identified with, I'm going to say it, Scarlett. I identify with Scarlett just in the way that I'm just like really reserved whole time I was like this is Matt Rogers I identified with I'm going to say it Scarlett

I identified with Scarlett just in the way That I'm just like really reserved and I'm just like I don't really know how to express How I feel in this relationship You know what I really like loved about it Like long scenes Like I love like a long scene And also just like

That's a weird choice to have Scarlett like walking around the apartment sort of like futzing with things as she's telling her story to Laura. And she goes, this tea is amazing. And Laura goes, it's the Manuka honey. I was like, this is like so, just like a long block of text. And then, oh yeah, it's the Manuka honey just stuck in there. You know what?

You know who Laura Dern is in that movie? She's both of us. Because the Manuka honey is me. That is you. It's the Manuka honey. I wouldn't know what the She's both of us. Because the Manuka honey is me. That is you. It's the Manuka honey. I wouldn't know what the honey was called. Have you ever had Manuka honey? Anytime.

Oh, actually, before your show, swallow a bit of Manuka honey. We'll go to Whole Foods. You know, Greta has organic honey in her apartment. But the Manuka honey is special because it's pollinated from a flower that only grows in New Zealand. Oh, Jesus. And it has these healing properties, let's just say. And it's not full-on homeopathic, but it's just like, I remember I was really sick

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i think it's it's this it's it's it's just this this is this has been a downer for me just or just and by this i mean the forever dog of it all yeah it's bum it bums me out i think it's that i think it's coming back to new york and like feeling like like um new york is like happening with without you which is so dumb it's so dumb but also just like just sometimes like at the end of the year you know you do take stock of like how much has changed. Yes. You know, like I feel like I haven't even, like I'll say this. This will be an admission.

So, like I feel like I haven't seen you in a while. I know. haven't seen you in a while i know and sometimes i'll like sometimes i'll like see the things that you're doing and i'll think to myself like oh i wonder what it was i wonder like what funny thing happened in creating that you know what i mean like and then i think probably likewise for you for me it's like it's hard when you come from a place of doing everything together to then see that person doing something different and it's not it's not a i want to stress it's not about like no i know jealousy it's not about like anything to do with that it's truly just about like oh there's like my like person doing that how you know what i mean that's like been a little different to be separated from you like that and it's it's it's just part of it you know what i mean

i don't know that it is though what do you mean i don't but i don't know that it's a part of it to like accept it because i don't know i'm not accepting it like you know what i'm saying i know what you're saying um like i think about you there's like a specter of you like everywhere like i said that to Jared too. I was like, I know that like it's kind of cool to watch because like a little part of me is in it. I literally said a little bit bitchy. I know you did. And I saw that.

And that was like a sooty pitch. And she was like, can we say that? I was like, well, it's like Matt's joke. And we're like, do you feel okay with it? I didn't's like it's like matt's joke and we're like we could like did you do you feel okay with it i didn't feel like it was taken from me if that's but i definitely heard it and i was like oh my god and then i felt like it felt like a little shout out you know what i mean yeah but then like there's things all the time in the stuff that i'm doing like i'm seeing i'm seeing i'm for what it's worth I'm seeing you and you're working

on a lot of very good things and I well yeah I really have this like aching feeling of like oh my god I would be so happy just just to like make something with you like on on like a on a different like cadence and on a different like clip where it's like being in a being in a writer's room with you like i've never had that like i like i can't imagine what that's like and like it's like you know what and because these collaborations i think about this all the time still it's like falling in love it's like you meet your people and then there's just this magic and i know for a fact that like, you're like, you're like the one.

Yeah. You know? Well, my thing too is just like, sorry, as I sound so nasal and ridiculous. Um, nasal and ridiculous.

Both. It's just like, um, I think we were just like, perhaps unnaturally codependent. Yeah. Just because I don't think we were, I don't think we were ever actually perhaps unnaturally codependent yeah just because i don't think we were i don't think we were ever actually codependent though well explain we were never it would never got to a point where it like was so poisonous and like vituperative we would get

into like but it was never a thing where it was like it was a it was never a thing where we were like enabling or disabling each other from doing things that like we, we truly on an individual level wanted to do. Yeah, no, I don't even, I'm not talking about it like in a pejorative or negative way when I say the

word codependent, which I think the word codependent like is inherently like a little negative. I guess what I mean is like, um, when these situations, when it's such a volume of success together and then like those things split off, you question like how much of this am I actually able to do by myself?

Or not by myself, but with other people. You know what I mean? Like I think all the time, like, um, would I be more dynamic on stage right now? If Bowen was here, can I do this by myself?

Like even like I, I all throughout this year, you know, I don't perform as much. It, it, and it, it's,

it doesn't bother me actively because I'm working. And for the first time ever, I'm like working on things in television like i'm officially like he's all right that's for my i'm on my third room like and so it's like that's that's amazing and i'm i'm very grateful for that but it does come at like a cost it does a cost there i i don't get up on stage anymore to the point where like now when I am up there, there is this little piece of me that's like, can I still do this?

Can I still remember how to do this? And then the only time I'm really comfortable when we jump back in is I'll say game show with Dave and with you when, whenever we do a last culture is this show. But truly it's like, I've never had this. I've never had this thing where it's like, you and I will just be like, okay, yeah, sure, we'll host this thing. And then we just unplanned go up on stage, just like, talk.

Yeah. And somehow we debatably make it work. Yeah. Or just for the audience, except for some, I'm sure some people are like, what the fuck is going on? But I, for what it's worth, i have that thought every single day going into work you think that we're just about you i'm just like oh god i know it's true well i mean flat out flat out like i think i feel comfortable saying this now but it's like last year it was like so crazy for us to do that yeah so here the tea is i also tested for saturday night live yes twice yes with bowen yes and they put us in the same fucking dressing

room and we were running our stuff and they were we were both on hold for six months i know and we couldn't work we couldn't work and i every single day of those six months i had like a fantasy of just us being on the show i had that fantasy too of course and then like when it but but i will say this like i think it i think the way it worked out and the way things are working out is meant to be. And who's to say that it's not still in process of working out? Well, who cares? Not even in terms of, like, the shows that we're, like, the things that we're working on. It's just, like, it's still, this is just, like, part of our friendship, our collaboration, our whatever.

But I just have to put it out there every day. I think this would be so much more fun if Matt was here. Well, I mean, I think that about all the stuff that I do. I mean, like I have such a cool, not for nothing. You do? I have a very cool job right now, which is I'm writing on the animated series Q-Force, which is going to be on Netflix.

And the room is like so great.'s gabe leadman created it megan amram is there guy branna ira max sylvestri ira like it's liza die so funny like these great people sean hayes is gonna voice mike liebenson oh my god we love mike he He's Gabe's assistant. Um, and you know, Sean Hayes is going to be the lead character in it. Yes. I, it's just what they're coming up with is so funny. Wow.

And like to be able to, even in some small way, be a part of the other two, what, whenever, um, that comes out, I'll be so excited to see it.

And you know, to have game show coming out, which is my literal creation, God willing, Quibi pops off. Please download Quibi. Please download Quibi. We'll see what happens.

Watch the Steven Spielberg horror series. But it's like weird to be doing these things without you. It's so strange. But actually, you know, what would be kind of cool is. I feel like you would be so much better in the room I'm in now than I would. No. For scripted stuff...

Because you're so much smarter than me. No. For scripted stuff, I'm just like, maybe that character talks to this character who was mentioned in the second episode. Scripted is hard. Scripted is so fucking hard. Scripted is hard.

There's so much more shit going into it than you think. There's so much to track, a serialized narrative. Yes, yes. It's a lot. It's so much, shit going into it than you think you just so much to track a serialized narrative yes a lot it's so much but it's fun it's like a puzzle you crack a puzzle with every episode with the whole arc or whatever but oh yeah when things come together it feels really good it's so great i i but here's what i'm gonna say wouldn't it be cool if just like we are on these different tracks now but then of course like there's no way that we don't meet back up we're still like we're still together i mean that's the thing is it's like it's no one's dead you know what i mean like we're going through a different network but i did think that that's one of the

reasons why i wanted to do this episode just the two of us i think you agree it's just like we haven't done that and i feel like so much has gone on and changed yeah yeah i do feel like um you know as weird as that is to say like i think about people that have listened to us from the beginning you know what i mean there's like there's like a good like 80 of you out there truly the numbers came in we got our i got the numbers through sound cloud yes when the pod first started and truly like the hits were like 87 people listened to this and we were like wow that's crazy that's like more than who would come to a show and I'd be like that's great and so

we're clocking you maybe some people have fallen off who knows but like but we're clocking like we know the people who have just like been in on the ground floor but some people really have listened to this for four years and that is that's very, you know.

I wonder how we sound changing and stuff. I guess we have it, if we ever want to be bored at 90 years old. I know. But also, this is a little document of something going forward. We can listen back to this and be like, oh, God. Remember when we were talking about Bombshell and panicking about our careers? Oh, my God. Or just feeling abandoned by each other.

Not abandoned, but you know what I'm saying? Like feeling like we're missing a part of ourselves without the other. I will say it's been interesting to navigate and negotiate what gets shared on the pot and what doesn't. Some things are just personal. But, like, with the SNL of it all, that was so insane. That was insane. To go through that and still be that close,

that was wacko. That was wacko. I gotta listen back to the episodes when we were going through that. Oh, gosh. I think we did a pretty good job we did a pretty good job of just what keeping keeping it under wraps or yeah well my thing is always like i had to negotiate like what i was kind of going through at the time was like i was sort of

figuring out if i was embarrassed to say that I didn't get it or like, you know, like, especially like, I think when you do something as a twosome all the time as a duo and then one person like, and I think honestly earlier in our twenties, maybe you felt this way towards me when I was getting like JFL and being put on

house for sure. For sure. It kind of makes you feel like when you are not the one who's popping off at the time, it kind of makes you feel like, well, no one's here to see me anyway. It's kind of like, you know what I mean? You do as a symptom of being who we are and being as close as we are, if you don't have those moments where you're like comparing yourself to the achievements of other person that's wild you shouldn't do that you shouldn't

do that but then you are constantly focusing on the lack of the thing that you're seeing the other person getting yeah so this is a funny story that i want to say okay and i was gonna say i honestly was gonna save this for like a book oh Oh my God. But I do want to, this is, this is such a funny story about when we, when we tested for SNL. Oh yeah. Go. So I think I know what you're saying. The second time.

Yeah. When we, we were the only ones that they put in the same. Well, the first time we were the only men, which was wild. I was like, okay.

There was like 17 girls and us. Yeah. And it was in March. Yes. And it was whack. Oh, was Chloe March. Yes. And it was wacko. Was Chloe there too? Yes. That was not Chloe yet.

Are you sure? Chloe was... Oh, you might be right. I think Chloe was there. Chloe was there. Anyway, regardless, we were the only two boys. And then they kept us on hold for like those next six months.

And we were like only... It was like six of us that they had kept. And I think, I don't know how you felt, but I really felt like, oh my God, like this could, this could happen.

Yeah. Like when did, when did it kick in for you that it could happen? Um, cause you, you went in four times. I went in the summer of 2017. Yeah.

And that was just such, it felt like such a fluke. Like they were like, can you do this? My manager at the time was like, you want to do the showcase for SNL? Or do you want to put together a tape? I was like,

sure. Not thinking it was like. No. And then went over to our beautiful friend, Doug Wydick's apartment, like shout out, like five minutes of characters. Yeah.

Put it together, sent in my tape. Then I get a, I get a call like, hey, do you want to do the showcase at ucb i'm like yeah sure at ucb chelsea r.i.p i was like yeah sure i mean not a chance in hell they would ever hire an asian person or uh east asian person or like a gay man right like this will never fucking happen meanwhile i had just come off jfl and crushed. And then they said they didn't want to see me at the showcase. And I was like,

that's the first. What? That was, that was, I was so salty. Stupid. And I am so sorry. No,

but that was, that again was like such a hard moment. Of course. Because if you remember three months prior, you were just writing high. No, I had gotten, you were,

you had gotten JFL and I hadn't. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck? It was such it's it's always it's so like it's so it sucks to have to like come not compete but you're all trying to get the same stuff when you're in new york and doing comedy it's like snl is sitting there it's right there and if they say if they say like hey maybe you you freak the fuck out i gotta might have to, like, slam the brakes on, like, talking about it so much. Or just, like, at least, like, posting about it. What are you being honest? No, no, no.

I'm happy to talk about it. Just posting about it. I'm just like, oh, this is just, like, dangling something in front of, like, a group of people who are, like, I don't know. I have this weird feeling about, like,'t, I have this weird feeling about like, I have to say with you, I think it's different. Okay. I don't know why,

but I feel like I can totally understand. Can I tell you what I don't love? What? Go. This new kind of era of people saying, I wrote this. It's like, that is not the way it has been.

Sure. Like, I understand that with social media, it's different. Yeah. But like, and whatever, if it's like that is not the way it has been sure like i understand that with social media it's different yeah but like and whatever if it's really your voice or whatever like and you're super super proud of it whatever say that i just i'm a little bit of a purist with that show yeah and it's like you never you never know what writers wrote wrote anything it just kind of belonged to the show and the performers did it and it was decorum and it was just that and maybe

you would go up to the writer 20 years later and be like did you write yeah past dish yeah right and that's the james anderson of it all but with you i feel like because you were like i i feel like you connect with the people that listen to this pod to follow you on instagram and follow you on twitter and have been fans fans of yours, and you connect with them through social media. And so I think as someone who is like, if I wasn't your best friend, I would be your fan. I would want to know what you were contributing.

So in a way, that's all changing. But it's a little bit of an adjustment for me as an SNL purist, whenever anyone's like, amazing experience writing this with the incredible this, the at, this, and I'm just like, this is not what this is. Sure that's fair that's fair that's totally fair but that's me having maybe too much fucking reverence no no no i get it what's your story i'm sorry i i took

this off uh no i was i was asking you when when you felt oh it could happen for you but then but that was kind of veering off you were about to tell a story about the when we oh oh the story okay so yes i did veer and i'll get back to tell a story about the, when we, Oh, the story. Okay. So yes, I did veer off and I'll, and I'll get back to what, yeah. So the story is, this is the second time I had tested and the, I guess the fourth time you had.

Yeah. And I think they thought, well, they're so close. Let's put them in a room. Let's put them in the same dressing room, which honestly, when you put two people that are so,

so, so close in a high-stakes situation like that we were pretty good but i'll never forget because this this week they did a sketch of you as the choking victim yes on the thing so you were doing the choking victim in your audition yeah and we were rehearsing our bits and so the whole there was like a period of time where you were just practicing choking i was like and i'm sitting next to you like at what point do i like interrupt his process of like trying out different jokes to say that i can't focus no No! Oh, no, man. But no, no, no, no, no.

It was not. It ended up being only funny because I turned to you and I was like, are you literally crazy? And you laughed and you were like, what? I was like, I think that any of those chokes will work, you bitch. Oh, my God.

That's so funny. What a wacko moment. Can I share my memory of that day? Yes. And of, of you and me in that dressing room. Oh my God. I was getting super into meditation at the time as a way to deal with,

as a way to, as a way to sort of deal with the nerves. Yes. Because, and I have this weird superstition now where I have to meditate every Saturday. Um, and I think it helps. I didn't know that.

Yeah. I meditate every Saturday, like at like 5 PM. Um, and then just like 10 minutes. But then I was, but then like at like 5 PM. Um, and then just like 10 minutes. But then I was, but then like, I remember my first time I went in,

like Sashir, I like emailed Sashir and I was like, do you have any tips? And she's so perfect and nice and so, so, so informed, like just helpful. And she was like,

uh, if you don't have them already invest in a pair of like noise canceling headphones, I was like, okay, great. She's like, you will be like hearing people running their,

running their auditions in the next room it's gonna drive you crazy i was like great and then i and then i like meditated did like a focus oriented meditation and then kept it going like that was my superstition i was like the thing that's like seen me through all this is like i've meditated before going up on stage for those auditions and then when we were together in that dressing room i was just trying to practice like feeling my feet and like feeling like my body and like just having an in that dressing room i was just trying to practice like feeling my feet and like feeling like my body and like just having an awareness of like where i was and whatever this mindfulness bullshit and then you were just pacing around the room i'm a pacer

and then i was like i was like hey like i was like man maybe like try i i might not have i might have been a bitch about it but i was like i was like you should like try it and like maybe like breathe or like feel your feet like stand in one place feel your feet feel like do a body scan like see how you feel and you were like no no i'm a pacer this is this is this is my process this is how i work like okay okay if you can honestly like put our essences into fucking one space it's like perfect i can't believe they put us in the same room that was so funny that's fucked up honestly but wow and then i remember like when it went the way it went yeah like that was um it it was like it wasn't it was truly like i don't know i almost don't even know how to sort my feelings out about

it at that time because it was like there was a three-week period of just true depression like after where it was like i know it's important that i feel this yes because i felt like the kids and this is still at the time when it's like not getting it is only a failure and you know what that's like of course because you had tested twice the year before so then like that feeling of just true depression yes and then like coming out of it like i i don't even know how to describe it was it does it feel fugue it feels like it was a full cloud this is crazy to say and i know it's not true but it feels like nothing will ever really upset me again that's probably that much because i've i've been to the place where i physically let myself get as low as

i could get wow like it was so much emotional energy invested in something. That situation is not for everyone. Not for everyone. And I think I'm kind of a brick house. When that decision came down and I figured out what was happening, it, I felt the blood leave my legs. I had to lay down for truly three weeks.

It was just, and that's when I realized it was emotional energy that I had been storing up for like 10 years. But it's all like. Waiting for that. I was gonna say like your whole fucking life. Honestly, probably. Because that was, it was always the cultural thing.

Yeah. And now I can say like after not getting it, and I am so happy that you're there and so happy that Sudie is there. I'm actually really happy I'm not am i'm so happy that you're there and so happy the city is there i'm actually really happy i'm not yeah i'm really happy i'm not that's that's great that's great actually that's really cool it is are you patronizing no it's like because i think i'd i think i'd rather just be doing the stuff i'm doing and seeing where it goes because the routine is not really.

Yeah, I know. I don't know. A routine will always, a routine will always end up sort of flipping over and you're going to see the underbelly of chaos the whole, the whole time. A routine is never,

a routine is an illusion of, of orderliness because everything is always going to be chaotic. Truly, this week was fucking chaos for me. It seems like, I think maybe that's what I'm reacting to. I'm someone who does well

for Better LOS with just validation. And that is not the place to go. If that is where you thrive ooh no baby but you enjoy being a cast member more than a writer why wouldn't you

yeah but then it just makes me admire the writing it just makes me admire well they have the hardest job they have the hardest job and I think in some ways they are the most valued people there. Like they, like truly that that show does not work without.

Well, yeah, no, but like, but it makes me think about like the turnover, like the, like choosing who gets brought on your, your,

your, your, on the staff for writing a huge deal like such a painstaking process that day because because if like because you gotta like build up the next class yeah yeah of course because if you no one is everyone matters even if even if even if you're there and you don't think that you matter you You matter. Oh my God. That's with across the board. Yes. Like when we were, I was putting together a game show, like hiring everyone.

Ooh. So important. So important. Did you enjoy it? Did I enjoy the hiring process? Yes. Did I enjoy like show running it? Not show running it.

Or like, cause Genevieve Vanello is a show runner. Yeah, yeah, cause Genevieve Vanello is a show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Being just like executive producer is a, you have a million little fights. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

About this, this, that, and the other thing. And it's, isn't it sort of fun though? Yes. But then it's like,

it's, it's so well with someone like Dave, Dave is a good partner for me for that show. Yeah. He is so aware of, you know, the way things should look and feel and like the way they should take how much time things should take and he's very good at expressing his opinions like

very in a very concise way we actually have a very good uh work yes dynamic yes because we're we're good at different things but we have opinions on everything. Love that. So it's like we can see what each other needs and it's not perfect. Right. I mean, like, we definitely had bad moments. It doesn't have to be. Perfection is overrated. Oh, I mean, and I think if it had gone perfectly, I would be like, what's going on? Wait a minute, yeah.

And at the end of the day, like, I'm really proud of what it is. I can't wait. If I was sitting here not proud of what it is, or if I didn't know what was sitting here not proud of what it is or if i didn't know what it was gonna be i'd be like well we'll see we'll see we'll see stay tuned yeah but i really do hope people download that goddamn app they will bitch i'll do a damn push i have nothing to do with it nothing well you are in it i'm in it yes But I'm not getting the Quibi paychecks. I'm getting the... Wait, what was your LLC? I got it.

Gay Aloha. Gay Aloha Productions. Gay Aloha LLC. I love that. Demi Lovato, by the way, is the Gay Aloha. Gay Aloha. It means hello and goodbye. Hello, goodbye.

What's Mahalo? I don't know. I don't know her. Rita Hayworth. I don't know. We did... We do... It's like every episode

we say a different pop star's name and it's a different greeting like Camila Cabello is like how is your family such a good bet it's so good I think

I think oh there's I won't give it away but there's good ones yeah there was a good one in my episode too

I won't give it away either was it Jojo Siwa I believe it was I believe I just gave it away but was it jojo siwa i believe it was i believe i just gave it away um but no i that's what i mean to say is like you know that really felt like the end of the road for me in like new york in so many ways but there was like there's so much good stuff that's happened after that and i almost feel like in a different era of the podcast i would have been able to say and express what i was going through of course but it's been so weird and hard to navigate as we've gotten a little bit

older and more doing this more doing this more um and we just but the thing with you is that there's never been i don't think there's been like a stagnant period for you. You've always worked so, so, so hard. And you're reaping the rewards of that constantly. And you'll get things very soon that you don't even realize you're going to get. And you're the best. You're the best there is. You're the smartest, the funniest. No, that's you, Bowen.

No, no, no. And I'm going to cry now because you're you're the best you're the best stop stop stop you're like there's no one who deserves more

but like not to even like get caught up in success narratives because that'll always let you down every time but you it's not real

it's not real but I look at you and I think I'm just a perfect human being oh god I was fully crying this morning

thinking about even coming here me too and I was watching I was watching you like it just makes me of just a perfect human being oh god i was fully crying this morning thinking about even coming here i mean and i was watching your i was watching you like it just makes me so proud of you to see you succeed on that show not only because it's just like my best friend doing well on saturday night live but because like you know why i mean like like it's it's truly like against all odds situation in that like they would never have had a gay person on that show they would have never had like an asian person on that show and then all of a sudden like you know it's just really nice to think that people are looking up to you and i i i'm not

surprised and that's what i say when i say like i think it's different for you when you share stuff because people know or everyone that knows you knows that you come from such like a positive place. And I think that like – I mean it just doesn't surprise me at all. It doesn't surprise me at all. Like whenever like I'm talking about the fact that like my two best friends work at SNL, It's like, what am I supposed to do? Be surprised? They're literally two of the smartest people, funniest people ever. I couldn't be surprised.

I was like, I can feel like, oh, what's going on there? I wish I was there sometimes. But like, it's not surprised. It's not like it. Things work when they see that there's talent out there the best talent they're gonna scoop up that best talent you better be damn sure better be damn sure but you better be absolute damn sure taking back sunday you had a you had a fun like kick this week with fucking what vanessa hudgens basically oh well basically what we're

gonna do is dance so we we were watching that video in the room i'm in and it's the most insane song basically so are you ready did you eat did you have the energy did you eat do you have the energy so are you ready did you eat did you have the energy did So are you ready? Did you eat? Did you have the energy? Did you eat? Basically, what we're gonna- It's actually rule of culture number seven. Did you eat? Do you have the energy? Honestly, it's so crazy that that's a song.

It's so crazy. And also how huge the career of Vanessa Hudgens is. I'm so happy for her. She seems how huge the career of Vanessa Hudgens is. I'm so happy for her. She seems like good people. She seems like good people. I watched her on Vanity Fair, like, what I do in a day, you know, like that kind of, like those little videos.

I don't know that, but I'm so unsurprised to hear that she has one of those. She's like, yeah, so I just like drive into the lot on my little camera. She just drives like a very modest car, it seems. I like to play like podcasts and, you know, she's just like, oh, you're like a very modest car it seems like like to play like podcasts and you know she's just like oh you're like a normal person she books every musical on television yes she is the princess of the princess but she's the christmas she's the new christmas movie queen

christmas movie queen she's stacy de novo and princess margaret yeah and in the new princess switch she plays a third character named Bad Girl Fiona. There's a bad girl in town and her name is Fiona. It's actually really culture number 10. There's a bad girl in town and her name is Fiona. And she's played by Vanessa Hudgens. That's psychotic and genius and so funny that we're going to heighten this by putting another one. And also they're not twins

they're identical strangers they're like yes it's like oh my god they look alike and so basically there's just another one who looks identical to them but like if if if it's supposed to like represent like some duality of class or whatever like where does the third one fit in it's parasite oh you haven't seen it yet basically i, I think this woman thinks that Fiona's like a bad girl slut and that is its own class. So it's like there's Stacey DeNovo

who's like a baker girl. She can bake in the kitchen with the best of them. Stacey. And then there's Princess Margaret who is, who must,

of Belgravia who, the town that hosts the festival. And then there's bad girl Fiona who i hope comes in uh who i hope goes in their vagina first yes toboggan style and says give me that bakery good absolutely tearing them down down well wow we love vanessa basically stan basically what we're gonna do is

stan stan vanessa that's actually rule of culture number 33, what we're going to do is stan Vanessa. That's actually rule of culture number 33. Basically, what we're going to do is stan Vanessa. Silly. Dumb. But basically... Basically. Yes, Vanessa Hudgens is the queen,

and we can never forget her seminal contribution to J-Lo's first act of 2019 which was second act what was she in second act oh i still haven't seen it i'm sorry i know you told me this already yes thank you love that you find out that v hudge is the daughter of j-lo now speaking of v hudge have you been watching disney plus i saw you've been become a fan of Encore I'm a huge fan of Encore I haven't seen much else of the Disney Plus offering

but Encore I think such a good reality show have you watched any of the Imagineering story I watched the first one

and Miss Angela perfect narrator for that I mean she is the narratress so what are they so the first one was just like the beginning of

Disneyland in six parts yes it goes all the just like the beginning of Disneyland. In six parts. Yes. It goes all the way from the beginnings of his first ideas to have Disneyland. Which I loved, found so fascinating.

Like it was gonna be like a huge failure. And if it failed, then like Disney, he had to borrow so much money. I didn't know that. So it's just so, so I did promptly when I moved to Los Angeles

buy an annual pass, which has already paid for itself. I have not changed at all. And so it's weird now to like go there and then watch this video of them like making the jungle cruise. And then it's still, it's still like basically like what it is. Pretty much.

Not a lot of Disneyland has changed. So it goes from part one, which is that to part six, which ends with like the future making rise of the resistance, How if Disneyland has changed? So it goes from part one, which is that to part six, which ends with like the future making rise of the resistance, which is great. Have you said you've been on it? No,

I have to talk about this for a second. Okay. Cause this is theme park culture. This, this is really full circle. I got to say with the, with the whole, with the first episode of the,

of the, of the show, but the whole, the whole fucking run of it. But yeah, go listen. Yeah. Star Wars rise of the show, but the whole, the whole fucking run of it. But yeah, go listen. Yeah. Star Wars rise of the resistance is now open at the Walt Disney world. Yes.

Hollywood studios. Got it. And it's opening on January 17th at Disneyland. And it is experience that is over 15 minutes long. You get into two different ride vehicles the second ride vehicle has three different ride systems so it's kind of like it's kind of like mission space a little bit it's a little bit it's bitch i'll tell you what it is okay it's a little bit spider-man okay it's a little bit yes guardians of the galaxy okay and it's a little bit

yes what you said so it's it's a little bit, yes, what you said. So it's a drop? Guardians of the Galaxy is a drop. There is a drop in it. Wow! I love that. So basically the ride is you're in Galaxy's Edge, the land. And then you go and you're like in the resistance, right? So like Rey's like, come on, we have to go.

And so basically BB-8's like, beep, beep, beep, beep. Edge is like, absolutely's like come on we have to go and so so basically bb it's like absolutely bb8 way to go and so you get in like a spaceship oscar is like hey yeah come on so you get on the spaceship when you go up yeah this is the first ride vehicle you get caught bitch by the first order by the first order by mr adam so the door by miss adam driver herself and miss dom hall gleason yes miss redhead bill weasley fish i love that redhead queen queen being very mean in this ride queen being very mean so you the doors open up and then you walk out yeah i have not been on this by the way i just know the whole storyline you walk out into a star destroyer wow so there is like a what do you mean

you just see a star in front of you bitch you walk out onto the onto the spaceship and you're in space and you see you're in space and you see absolute space. Then you go into a holding cell where Kylo Ren herself interrogates you with Mean Queen. Mean Queen. Not Gwendolyn? No, bitch. Okay. She's not in it. She's not in it.

Oh, man. Because she actually passed away in the last job. Oh, that's right. She did die. John Boyega survived, though. Yes, John Boyega is featured in the ride. He's like, we have to go now. That's good, John Boyega.

Now do Kelly Marie. Kelly Marie's like this. I thought this was the way. I don't know. That's really... Guys, submit this episode for something so basically anyway what happens is you get caught by the first order and when they're gonna like kill you or interrogate you to get information about the rebel base yes you then get on to a ride system that escapes the star

destroyer so you essentially get to play out a situation which is like in A New Hope when they're leaving the Death Star. Wow. Yes, bitch. I love that. It is a peak. It's long. When are you gonna go? I'm going. Jared and I are going on January 2nd. To Disney World. That's right. I'm so jealous. That's gonna be so much

fun. You're gonna be in heaven. To find someone to date me who wants to buy an annual pass, that's really winning. I think you got a good one. He is a good one. He's a good one. I really, really like him. And he was being really good today when I was spinning out.

Oh. So then that's huge. Then that's how you know. Here's the thing. Stay with the person who is good with you when you are spinning bad when you are bad um he seems to be traveling a lot and are you well he's directing a movie right that he wrote i can't say anything about it but just no no why is it to say i want to ask we'll have him on las culturistas i want to say here's what I want to ask is that are you

is there is there like the like are you dealing with the separation well I think we'll be fine like then that's huge if you can exist

and not fucking further spin out because you're not with the person huge deal I think we'll be fine I'm not super worried about it also it's like

you can get on a plane you can get on a plane you can it's actually roller coaster number 41 one you can get on a plane what's going on with your love life um i was talking about this with jordan firstman and charles rogers by the way it's the to the to the funniest people. The craziest bitches I've ever met. The craziest bitches. Charles is certifiably insane prankster. And my sister, yes, the coffee thing. Oh,

wait, if Last Call of Duty listeners, the readers, if you don't know about this coffee prank. The coffee prank is I think

such a genius, maniacal thing. Charles Rodgers got Game Show from the search party office. He got us so good with the prank. It's too long to say.

It's too long, but it's genius. It's my sister Yang's favorite thing but it's it's genius um it's my sister yang's favorite thing of all time my yang classic prankster erstwhile prankster used to prank a lot back in the day she loved it anyway i told i told him that but charles was just like you must be fucking a lot i'm like not really like nothing like nothing's really changed like the dial hasn't really changed i'm okay with it i'm just like but now i just got to be i just gotta think through i just have to like do little like litmus tests like all over

the place with each guy i'm just like i think you should zone in on one crush i've i've been trying i've been doing that for the past like two weeks I can't tell, but I feel like it's yielded fruit in a way. But not even like... We love when fruit yields. Yielded fruit in terms of manifesting and being like, I have a crush on this guy and I'm going to pull him to me.

And then gradually closer and closer and closer. And anyway, that's all I'll say. I'll tell you. Have you kissed him? No, no, no no have you have you kissed sexuality have you are you saying are you saying this this this game give this box a sexuality um oh my god wait why why have you not kissed him i'll tell you more about oh because it's actually kind of an insane thing and there's so many there's so much kissed him? I'll tell you more about it. Oh, because it's actually kind of an insane thing. And there's so much going on there. I'll tell you.

I want to know. Do I know him? Yes. Oh, girl! Is it a famous person? Oh, that's psycho. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll tell you about it.

And I feel psycho just thinking about it. And I feel psyched just thinking about it. And I don't think it's going to happen. But I'm just like... Is it Harry Styles? No, no, no. God, I wish. Well, I must get rid of the toxic in this community. Must get rid of toxic in community.

Oh, the fun thing happened. Well, first of all, I just have to be very public and say, anytime you want to tag me in like a must get rid of toxic community, please be sure to tag Hoolio because it was his idea. He came up with a lot of the good stuff. I was just his little clackety-clack boy on the keyboard just typing it out and making sure it structurally made sense. It's actually Rural Culture number 49. Tag Julio.

He needs it. But last night after the show, you have people waiting outside 30 Rock after every show. And then I heard, I was walking through to my car and then I heard a group of people. They were like, one, two, three, need a real king who can handle. And I laughed.

I was like, that's cute. Yeah, it's cute. It's also so funny that need a real king that can handle by taking on the the mantle of like people who just you did a young voice for like need a real king they were all like these like teens i love that so funny need a real king that can handle aka me need a real king that can handle it's 8 a.m and have to go to hell job at. Anyway. Oh, this is a fun bit of trivia I'll share.

Go. You knew this, but that sketch was originally written for John Mulaney last year. Oh. Anyway, and then the brand was originally Nestle, but then they had bought AdSpace on the show, so it was a little bit of like a crazy thing where we're like, well, we can't like... I think Sara Lee benefits from that, ultimately. I absolutely think so, and I will be buying Sara Lee products. Oh, please.

If you were to buy anything else, that would just be trifling. Trifling. I don't want this to end. Well, like all good things, it must. But we'll do I Don't Think So Honey. Yes. Do you have one? Not really.

Oh, no. Do you have one? Mine was going to be Bombshell. I think you can still do that. This element of surprise with I Don't Think So Honey is overrated. If you want to do it, do it. I think the people want it. All right.

Do you think you want to go for it? Yeah, I want to do it. Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey Bombshell. Okay, bitch? is matt rogers is i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey bombshell okay bitch because nicole came in you did this on a damn vacation all right and we stand nicole but what let me tell you something if charlie sterron studied megan kelly for her performance nicole kim and studied the emoji that with that's looking down kind of sad. And guess what? It was a thin sweater convention.

Nicole Kidman did this, shot her part in three or four days from a kitchen while Keith was on the road. 30 seconds. I don't think so, honey bombshell. Because guess what? Bombshell, which one? You said everything I want to say about this

I don't think so honey um uh basically that go on so bad I'm so emotional today I don't think so honey bombshell I think you could have condensed the narrative and just made it a little bit more clear and streamlined that's my real

Oscar screenwriter no I have nothing and that's one minute. I don't know. It's been an emotional episode. I didn't come prepared with anything good. I came prepared with my open heart. That's all you can do. This has been the most raw episode.

This has been a very raw episode. You're going to absolutely blow me away right now. No, no way. No way. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey Christmas Trees Your bullshit and every day you Fucking take up the damn sidewalks Of New York City bitch with your

Nettles Shedding on the damn sidewalk into my apartment I Don't Think So Honey And then it's a damn fire hazard You're inviting a fire hazard into your heart Home hearth And you're gonna string some lights around it, plug it in all night. You wake up to go to

the bathroom. It's there, blasting into your eyes. And then you're gonna be up. And then your sleep hygiene's off. And you're gonna be up for the next four hours. So, shut up. And then I I don't think there's any Christmas trees. I don't think there's any wreaths, darling. Let the pines be. Do not drag

them in from the damn farm Let the farms just produce the trees For air Let them purify the air And take in the oxygen Or take in the carbon monoxide Push out the oxygen That's what trees are meant to do

And not decorate your tacky ass living room Christmas trees you ain't secular You ain't religious you ain't shit And that's one minute Wow you fucking tore them down trees trees i have another one i want to do another one should we do two it's due to because my first one was garbage i have another one okay this is matt rogers second i don't think so honey this time starts now i don't think so honey christmas sweater i don't think so any christmas sweater too big too warm too much i don't think so, honey. Christmas sweater! I don't think so, honey. Christmas sweater. Too big.

Too warm. Too much. I don't think so, honey. Christmas sweater party that is ugly. Guess what? I want to wear a nice thing. I make dollars on dollars and I don't go out here trying to find something hideous so I can come to your party at your

home and be too hot! I don't think so, honey, Christmas sweater. Because often you only get worn in December. 30 seconds. And then what? For me in January, February, March. I don't think so, honey. The Christmas sweaters that are the most warm and you wear them in December,

which is not one of the colder months. It's January. It's January. It's February. It's sometimes March. I don't think so, honey. These designs on the sweater of a reindeer, of a snowman. Get new IP. Five seconds.

I don't think so, honey. You trash. One minute. One of your best. One of your best. I knew I needed to come back and do another oh my god i don't first imagery i feel like i should do one but i know you do a bad one okay okay i'll do a bad one you do a bad half-hearted take on a movie this is bowen yang second i don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Fucking Jojo Rabbit.

That kid. Well, it wasn't clear if he was actually hallucinating Hitler or not. Unclear. Taika. Taika, I loved his Hitler. I loved the directing. But, you know, it was sad. I didn't want the mom to die.

Spoiler alert. Did I spoil it for you? No, I knew. You knew. I didn't want to see to die. Spoiler alert. Did I spoil it for you? No, I knew. You knew. I didn't want to see Scarlett Johansson die. You are spoiling it for everyone else. Scarlett Johansson better not die. You see her die?

You see her get hung. He like, I can't say, it's really sad. And Scarlett really does a good job of like, making you like, like that mother a lot. 15 seconds. And you know what? I just,

I do think so. Honey, Scarlett Johansson. I like her too. I like her. She's cool. Oh my God. We're sold out.

She was asking me a lot of like personal questions that she was asking. Like everyone. That's one minute. I ran into her makeup people and some of them Asian and they were all like they were like great job tonight I was like thank you I was like it was so fun to work with her and they were like she's like one of the most easygoing like low maintenance

people we work with and like she's just like a chill person so who are these makeup people they work with a bunch of people I guess or I'm sure like they've worked they're like on different people. Yeah. Like they've like landed on her and they just seem like

happy and chill and cool. They're a good crew. They're a good crew. It's like, like depending on the host, like some of these, some of these entourages are maniacal.

Yeah. But she just had like a good like energy about it the whole week. Was the JLo vibe good? JLo vibe was great. I gotta say. She's got two whole, I probably can't talk,

she's got two whole suitcases full of hair. And I think that's diva energy iconic, and I love it. We stan. We stan. We stan. Yeah, my thing on Jojo Rabbit just turned into... Turned into a Scarlett Johansson is cool, and also spoiler fest.

Spoiler fest. We'll put a little spoiler alert in the beginning of that episode. Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure sure sure um anyway anyway it feels very surreal it's very surreal to be moving on to another network like i said in the beginning of the podcast um but again we just want to stress and say the biggest thank you to Forever Dog, to Joe and Alex and Emma. HPE, thank you so much. You have been such an amazing part of our show. And we feel like that really was one of the hardest things was knowing that you weren't going to produce us anymore.

So, which feels crazy. It feels crazy. It feels crazy, but when we hopped on the phone with Joe and Alex, you came up and it was just this really, really, really sad. True love fest. We adore you and thank you so much for everything. Thank you for everything.

Thank you for putting up with our crazy, crazy, crazy lives. What's that? I tried every minute of it. It was never putting up. Well, crazy crazy crazy what's that okay well I mean and we said this on the phone to Joe and Alex but

I don't know what my career would have been like without this I don't know either you can make the argument that it gave us a career and made people familiar with what we are about.

It was just a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really important part of our lives that we got to start this. It's not over. With here, yeah. It was a huge part of our lives in our sort of

whatever. And we should just say also, um, you guys, while we figure this out, there's going to be a hiatus, a little bit of hiatus. So it's not gonna be too long.

It won't be too long. One of our focuses is getting this up and running as soon as possible. And while the energy of this episode might be a touch on the Monroe side, we are going to be so excited to start again. And we hope, and you guys don't have to do anything different. No. Cause you're subscribed to us wherever.

Yep. So it's not going to be like you have to change anything, which we probably should have said up top. Right. But the most important thing and the biggest thank you that Bowen and I have and want to say for the holidays or whatever until the next time we talk to you guys is thank you to everyone that's listened yes and thank you to everyone that's supporting bowen and i that means the world to us and who writes reviews and says

that you know for a couple hours a day you laugh um and that we break up the day a little bit that's just that's why i mean the reason i ever want to do anything is because i love to make people laugh and so that means the most to me that you say that um and for me it's when it's when people just say that it feels like they're talking to friends. And for you to feel that familiar with us, I think, is so unbelievable. So nice. And all we can do is just do right by you guys. And we think we are. So we will see you in the new year.

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The one thing that I tried to hold on to Well, goodbye to you Goodbye to everything that I knew I'm gonna blow out my voice for the show. You're the one I love He's too motioning to me to mark. Pull it back. The one thing that I tried tried to hold on to. She wrote that at 17 years old.

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