Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Neighborbanged!" (w/ Josie Totah)

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

It's giving essential Las Cultch listening experience as Matt & Bowen are joined by the talented icon colloquially known as Josie Totah! The queen is here to talk about turning 21, going to college and experience the darkness of sorority, the experience of being nominated at an awards show that is mass-like in terms of length, hitting on Andrew Garfield unsuccessfully, the reboot of Saved By The Bell, shooting Other People with the legendary Molly Shannon, acting in a drama (???), Teresa Giudice's wedding hair and what happens when you give a tri-state area hair stylist carte blanche, the Kim Petras album leak and Kardashian relationship cycles. Imagine these three are your neighbors and they are banging you. Great. Now you are in the headspace to listen. Check out Josie's upcoming Crooked Media podcast Dare We Say premiering August 11th! What a star. STARRRRRR.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there over there wow is that culture yes ding dong lost culture is just calling and how is charlotte north carolina treating the girl you know i am loving the breweries i think that's what it's most famous for oh you know you know what it is it's a banking town which is a you know what it is? It's a banking town, which is a bummer. I know not everyone

here is a banker, but like it really prides itself on being like a bank town. And I'm like, oh, that explains a lot. This is not to poo-poo on Charlotte. It's only to poo-poo on banks. Well, I'm just saying banks are not the club. It's actually rule of culture number 42. Banks are not the club.

Banks are not the club. And therefore you have to go banks are not the club banks are not the club and therefore you have to go to the breweries sort of get your kick so what sort of um brews are we sort of ingest when we get there are we an ipa type of girl are we some sort of like amber ale type of bitch are we that kind of sort of cranky pilsner type tell me bo girl all i know is that like in the summer i like to drink a Blue Moon or a Fat Tire. I guess I like I don't know beers. And this is actually the thing about Matt is that

you're a beer gay, which is so dissonant to me. It's really jarring, even for me. Well, I mean, the sort of bibliography on my life is I sort of came up serving tables, you know, like just like clocking in. The bibliography.

Punching the clock and, you know, getting my apron on. And then I would deal in the market of beer. I would deal in hops. And so I worked in an Irish beer bar downtown, way downtown in the financial district with the best clientele who often worked at say it with me banks banks which are not the club which are not the club but sometimes the way those fucking dudes would come in for lunch you'd think they were going back to the club because these men would get absolutely wasted during lunch during the week and then go back and run our banks so just know that I am a primary source

and I was down there in the financial district watching these men get wasted and going back to run our banks. I'm sorry I got political and this was supposed to be a fun conversation about hops. No, it's okay. Really quickly, let's just go over a couple of items of business.

Yeah. Frank Ocean is selling $25,000 cock rings. What? Gold and diamonds. did you hear about this frank ocean is selling 25 000 cock rings but they're they're hexagonal they're a hexagon but there's it's so it's really chic but unfortunately i'm like how do i don't know how to feel about it i have a question who does he think his clientele is who does he think his clientele is that they can afford a 25 000

rich fags i thought it was everybody but apparently he's like zeroing in on like a type of luxury consumer and i'm like oh this is not the frank ocean i knew this is not the girl i knew no frank ocean shouldn't be a luxury brand is a chic name his brand is homer which i'm also like eye roll i don't know i don't think I like it. Like Simpsons in fashion. Like that's like, come on. I know. And it might not be a Simpsons reference necessarily.

It might be like, oh, okay. He loves the Iliad. It's like, you gotta, I don't know. Home Simpsons in fashion.

It's like, we've reached a fever pitch. I love that. You know that I, I'm a Simpsons gay. If you're a beer gay, then I'm a Simpsons gay. But I think like we're like every,

every fashion brand has a Simpsons motif in it now, which do they really love? But I feel like let's Frank Ocean is ahead of the curve. And this is the one moment where I'm like, wait a minute. I feel like you're a follower. Do you know what I'm saying?

I love him to death. I wish him the best. I wish him the best in all of his endeavors. I'm just saying like there's something about a $25,000 cock ring that rubs me the wrong

way maybe even literally because if you're thinking about what that's made of to make it 25 000 i'm thinking that feels painful or uncomfortable two sensations that during gay sex we don't necessarily need more of another thing is like then what happens if it gets like lubey what happens if it gets like like iy? What happens if it gets like, like, I don't know. A lot happens. There's a lot of like action happening during sex, like a $25,000 sex, like accessory. I just don't know. A cock ring is supposed to, you're supposed to be able to like control the compression

at the base or whatever. And like, it's, it's, this is jewelry. Like, it's not like, yeah, this is assuming a lot about someone's, someone's like ball size. I don't know. We can't get into it, but you know what? And it's not even like we can get it to try it because neither of us are going to pay 25 grand for it. No, but if he's going to sell a $25,000 cock ring, I'm going to sell like $50,000 Viagra pills. Like that's, it's basically the same function. You know, it's like, you don't want that to be your brand, though. This helps me get hard and it costs too much money.

I don't know. That's what's going on. I'm sorry that we went down that pathway. I don't. Frank and I are the same person. No, I'll tell you who our clientele is. Her name is Katie. She's 28 years old. She lives outside of Chicago. She has a communications degree and we

are her gay best friends. That's what our clientele is. Okay? Yeah. And we've embraced it. You know? Okay. Speaking of alcohol earlier,

our guest just celebrated a huge birthday. 20 absolute one. 20 absolute one. Iconic. It's giving Adele. It's giving Adele's best album. Sorry. Okay.

Well, let's not go there, but I think she turned 21 in, in a crazy place. Not a crazy place. In a hopeless place. Oh my God. We love that song. Okay, but she just turned 21. She just talked about birthdays as a concept on her new

podcast coming out on Crooked Media with Dare We Say with her friends Yasmeen Hamidi and Alicia Pascual-Pena who plays Aida in Saved by the Bell, which our guest stars in, is truly such a fucking star in. That's the truth. I can't wait to talk about Saved by the Bell with her.

We met her at the Critics' Choice Awards. Where she was nominated and fucking absolutely ridiculous that she didn't win. Your friend Molly Shannon was nominated. Our guest was nominated in the same category. It was a stacked category. I actually happened to be wearing the other two season two

sweatshirt today, actually. Oh my god. And our guest was in another Chris Kelly project. Other people. Other people. I mean, this has been a long time coming. We love her so much. I mean, this was a sort of thing where it was like, it's been a long time coming. We love her so much. I mean, this was a sort of thing where it was like, it's been a long time coming, getting our guests on the pod.

And the fact is that we finally locked her down and she's in fucking Scotland where she'll be for months filming a drama. And that is how I want, that's the energy I want this episode. I want it to feel Scottish drama vibes. And it starts now. Everyone, please welcome into your ears Josie Tota!

Josie Tota! Hi! Already it's not Scottish vibes. It's like chill American girl. It's such Scottish energy. I feel like I was having a stroke. Like I wanted to speak so much but I couldn't. I'm so happy to like produce words out having a stroke. I wanted to speak so much. Speak now. I'm so happy to produce words out of my mouth.

I love listening to you guys. We're so happy too. I'm so happy. We're so happy you're producing words. I'm so happy that Frank Ocean is so delirious. I want to be at that level of delirium where I can sell $25,000 cock rings. You will.

The thing is, I don't doubt that he will sell000 cock rings. Me too. I guess, you know, the thing is... You will. The thing is just like, I don't doubt that he will sell those cock rings, but that to me feels like, you know, he could make cock rings for the people and then that could really be his thing. Luxury cock rings, I'm like, not only do I think they're impractical, but I don't think it's like

the best. I don't know, but here we are talking about it and isn't that what this whole town feeds on? Talk, talk. So true. So fucking true. Happy birthday. Happy belated. Thank you.

How did you celebrate? So I forced like my two best friends from LA to fly 6,000 miles over here. And so with my cast and the two of them we just you know went to the the party capital of the world Edinburgh Scotland of course and um had it had an amazing just like British time incredible but can I confront you incredible but I I know you've drank underage. I know it. Oh, of course. And CSC, criminal. It's criminal.

Of course. You know, it's so funny because I, so I went to college and I just graduated like a week before. Thank you. A week before I like came to Scotland. And so like I never was 21 in college and so i and by the way if you i'm not even just saying this for like you know to sound like i'm like a good person who didn't have like a childhood alcohol disorder like most child actors do like i just like didn't

i never really enjoyed drinking i just loved being in like the environment like i always loved being in the club so yeah i like forced my sister to um like give me her old id and but so that now it's like it's seeped into other things it's not just getting into clubs like now that i'm 21 like i can use my own id but i like use triple a through her id i like rent cars now through her like we basically share insurance i'm like legally on paper. I'm half of my sister's life. So like, that's not even something that's going to change now. Yeah.

This is a great movie plot. Like the, the time between you turn 21 and 25, those four years are so important. That's what, that's when you're going to feel so connected to your sister. Right. Before you can rent a car at 25.

Like, cause otherwise you're like, you're in some ways the same person but you were saying on your podcast that you guys don't look alike and so the fake doesn't work we don't look nothing alike and that's not because of a surgeon's misdoing um we've had the exact same work done no um we don't really look i look more like my dad and she looks more like my mother-ish. Yeah. I look like I'm a squeezed and much taller, like I'm a pulled out version of her.

My sister's hands are like, they're like miniature. They're like tiny paws. They can fit into a quarter of my palm. Small hands are, I'm sorry, they freak me out. I'm just saying right here, small hands are some of the scariest things i love playing with her fingers it's like a little toy it's like a free toy how old is she she's just about to turn 30 in october oh so her hands have stopped growing that's just how big yeah oh no they're done their hands your hands stop growing at 28 that's what they say that's what they say oh my gosh that is what it's written it's actually bible it's biblical it's bible were you were you drinking at the

critics choice no you were being good no i was i was so scared i was so i have never not wanted to like to to like went not that i ever thought there was a possibility of of me being able to like win that but like i have never felt such like i was just producing so much negativity leading up to when they were saying my category and i looked to my dad and i was like i will shit myself and throw up if this goes the other way so i was praying i was obviously praying that like it was obviously someone else which i knew it was going to be my mom was like are you gonna write a speech and i was like no that's so stupid why would why the why would i write a speech um but that's like the worst feeling why do people like

going to award shows they're like kind of awful well we were that's the thing is that that we were looking over at you and you obviously weren't drinking. And we were like, can you imagine having to sit through all of this with no help from alcohol? Because it really, she was long. It was like a mass. It was like a six hour mass. It was really long. It was.

And we had a great time, but it was long. But the thing is though, like you guys obviously were nominated. So can you, but probably, I don't know. You felt like you were

not going to win and bowen kept saying i'm not gonna win i'm not gonna win but i was feeling like bowen you might win i thought you were gonna win no no no okay that's very nice but i think but i think what josie is is talking about is this thing that i think we've talked about which is that like you obviously know that like it, it's not in the realm of possibility. And then something happens when you're sitting there in the room. Yeah. Right.

And it's like, but what if? Yeah. Right. I need to look this up. I need to read a book about this. But the phrase, the addiction to possibility is like, applies to so many areas of everyone's life.

The addiction to possibility. Wait, I feel like I have that. That's so interesting. We all have that. I think we all have that. Oh my God. Title of episode. We all have addiction to possibility.

Wow, this is crazy. That is so... Explain that, though. It comes in a crazy text. Well, I feel like it's self-explanatory. It's like we are... Before you go on a vacation, I'm sure, Josie,

you felt this before you went to Scotland, even though you were like, oh God, it's like a month's long shoot in a different country. Like it'll be hard work, but it might be exciting. It might be all these things. I'm going to celebrate my birthday there.

I mean, we all have this crazy concept of like an image of what an outcome might be or what something will be as an experience. And then we love that. That's basically it. We fantasize that. The problem is, and I think this is what forces people to like stay in bad habits, is that we can only think of possibilities with the information that we have, which is past experiences.

And so, you know, we can't sort of dictate what's in front of us objectively because we can only pull from things that we've experienced we've heard people experience and i think that gives people like roadblocks gives me gives me roadblocks yeah especially in a situation like that one it's like when you finally get to sit at an award show like that it's like your only experience with that most of the time is like having watched them on tv or like understanding what it's like when someone goes up there and wins and then you're there and it's like you don't just magically appear during your category and you look stunning when they cut to you as one of the nominees and it's this tense moment and someone wins and then everyone's like oh clapping and thank god and then you move on

with your life it's like no you sit there the entire time they do not feed your asses the alcohol is flowing people are usually making jerks of themselves either on stage or off it's a horny little town that gets weirder as the night goes on and then afterwards you leave and you're like wow that was demystified for me and i don't know if it was positive or negative but i know i experienced it uh right and i honestly i think a niche sort of um experience that many people cannot relate to is which was the most horrifying experience or one of one of one of the most during that night was like the cameraman after i lost like everyone everyone has like a camera on them when they're saying the nominees and then like just the way

he just like threw it down immediately. Like after he's like it's like the way it like pushed in and I felt like I was having my moment and then like just the it was like disappointment but like he it was like expected disappointment. Like the look on this

man's eye was just like of course and he just like threw the camera didn't even like try to like keep it up for like a millisecond longer like that to me was horrifying wow chilling chilling you had our votes you had our crit you were our critics choice you really were thanks and by the way i was like i was so honored so honored and. And they were so nice. Yeah, it was fun. Seeing you guys. Oh, it was a lovely time. And well, speaking of which,

so we instantly locked in on you. We were like, oh my God, Josie's next to us. We hit it off. What was your memory of your table mates? I think Joshua Jackson and Jodi Turner-Smith. Do you remember what that vibe was? I remember that I didn't recognize Christian Slater and he like tried sitting in my dad's seat. And I fully like,

just so I was so anxious that I was like extremely rude and was like, that's my dad's seat. Like that's my dad's Christian Slater. And he looked at me like a little confused and he was like, oh, and I was like, yeah, sorry. And then little confused and he was like oh and I was like yeah sorry and then

I just thought he was like someone's guest and then my dad was like why the fuck did you just speak to Christian Slater like that and I was like wow

I haven't seen him in a moment well you're not watching Dr. Death you're not watching Peacock's Dr. Death I guess but I loved Jodi

I loved their relationship they seem so healthy. Yeah, they're iconic. So healthy and horny. It was healthy, horny energy. They were on top of each other. I love how she just gave no fuck. People were giving emotional speeches

and she was just like, what the fuck? Huh? She was like, that doesn't make sense. And I'm like, you're speaking in a normal voice. That doesn't make sense. And I'm like, you're speaking in a normal voice. That doesn't make sense.

And your table is close to the stage. We were like right on the stage. But what I will say, there's so many tidbits from this night, honestly. But one tidbit, my dad was sitting next to Venus Williams during the whole Jane Campion speech. Yeah. Oh, right. was sitting next to venus williams during the whole um jane campion speech yeah oh right so he he was so obsessed with the fact that he got to see like the look on her face and like the confusion and like that whole moment which was so awkward yeah it was not she's yeah i just you just wanted to sort of kick her right right oh jane well i actually i actually missed that part

because we got so fucking drunk that at one point we we got up and like went to go hop knob and i left my phone somewhere so at that point i was fully standing up looking around that ballroom like where's my phone like my darcy card and send a video of me just like up out of my seat while they're accepting the award just like looking like in the ballroom oh my. You don't realize like, it's probably good that you couldn't drink because you don't realize just how drunk you'll get. If you allow yourself to go there,

especially when you're nervous. Like, and I was nervous for Bo. I was like, what are we doing here? There's so many, there's so much going on. You got tanked.

There was a lot going on. It's so, it was so strange. And like, yeah, there was, I mean, I was like running into like kirsten dunst

and jesse clemens outside of the bathroom who also like i don't know if i should say this because if people know where i live then they could like hunt them but they're like my neighbors randomly they're like my next door and so they were like talking about parties that i had in high school that they like had heard through the fence oh my my God. Wow. Yes, it was so... I hit on Andrew Garfield at the after party. Well, he is a hump. Of course. And I failed miserably.

Wow. So many moments. So many moments. Which, by the way, I regretfully hit on. I would never hit on that man again because I just feel like he's not my vibe. He's not your vibe? Really?

No, I feel like the more that I read into him, he seems like a nice person, but I feel like he's not my vibe. He's not your vibe? Really? No, I feel like the more that I like read into him, he seems like a nice person, but like, I feel like he deserves, he deserves someone else. Deserves someone else? I say that like I had a choice. No, I think that it was in your hands. I think had you just gone over there and been like,

listen, this is happening tonight. I think that maybe Andrew Garfield would have been charmed slash horned up. I think he was a little too charmed throughout the night but like basically what happened was we were at the the after party and i went up to him because he was hanging out with like my little friends that i had made that night was it was their first time also being nominated and i was like i like your jacket because he had like a sparkly jacket, right? Just like real chill, real easy. And he was like, really? Because I feel like it's

giving Dancing with the Stars. He used the phrase, it's giving, which I was like, okay, because this is giving something else. It's giving somewhere in the middle. It's giving Cher. It's giving Cher.

And so I was like, no, no, no. That's way below your tax bracket. And I was like, but you would look good in anything so you don't have to worry. Good, nice, nice, nice. Right, right, right.

And so I was like, okay, I'm getting points here. And then he asked me, he was like, so what do you do? And this is one like, like you would expect me to be like, I'm an actor or like I was nominated. Oh no, did you do a bit? Did you do a bit?

I didn't do a bit. I was honest. But I looked at him dead in the eye and was just like I'm a student but you weren't lying I wasn't lying because I was so nervous that he had asked me that all I could say was that I was a student because I am in college he looked at me face ajar

truly confused and was like how is that going for you and again you would think you would think that i would that would be like well i'm also an actor and i'm also nominated tonight but but i doubled down and was just like i didn't want to say those words but i was like if i just insinuate that i'm an actor i so i just said like um while i'm here and he looked at me and was like he looked at me and was like i don't think that means what you think that means and i was like what does that mean i was so confused i don't know what that means oh no i hate when i hate

when things go off the rails it went totally off the rails and then he walked away from me and um i was just like why did i tell him that but i did see him at the glad awards and i did tell him that and he was he very kindly and um told me with with great confidence that he had no idea who i was and didn't remember that um but he was also he was laughing at the fact that i told him i was a student so it's been made it's been since made up it's a made right and now the next time you see him you can just go over to him and like flirt with him for real and like god remember all these times we started together anyway let's get a drink because i'm old enough to do that now so uh anyways exactly but that's my garfield story

we all have one the we all have one the groundwork has been laid though for i think matt's right for future interactions where, like, you know, it's cute and fun. Wait, who are your other friends, your, quote, little friends that you made that night who were also nominated? Was it the Yellow Jackets people? Well, actually, one of the girls from Yellow Jackets, Sammy, she goes by Samantha now because she's an adult.

Samantha Hanratty, I've known for, like, over 10 years. Oh, she's so adult. Samantha Hanratty. I've known for like over 10 years. Oh, she's so good. She's amazing. I met her like when I first moved to LA and we took our first very acting class together and we were very excited to be there together. And then there was another, it was like a Wolf brother.

I think his name is Nat. Oh, okay. Nat Wolf. There you go. He was really nice. Yeah. Is Saved by the Bell your first, maybe not your first,

but is that like one of your first jobs where you got to hang with people in your age cohort and like your age group where, because I feel like you've been in a lot of stuff where it's like you've had to play opposite, like full grown adults. Yeah. And I imagine as someone growing up in the industry,

you're like, I kind of want to hang out with like people my age is that fair a hundred percent i mean when i was on glee i like assumed i would be with high school age people because i was 14 years old but i was with like 38 year olds who are some of the oldest people in america who played some of the oldest people in america it was the oldest people I'd ever seen They were like 30 It's like

It's not even like people that are like Yeah they're old to play high schoolers It's like hard adults with hard adult problems Like having hard adult conflict And then they're like We get to get to class I was just so confused Why when it came to

Casting my character did they decide they wanted to cast a child right like true I was I was truly like

13 years old when I was cast and like put opposite these these 30 year olds like Chris Colford a 48 year old novelist

right and and Lea Michele we love Chris who was a wonderful journey um but the leah of it all bowen and i are going to see her in funny girl i mean she's she's that'll be very entertaining she's gonna tear it up it will yeah yeah yeah yeah of course but anyway so yeah so when we got to say by the bell um i was so lucky especially because i had shot a movie just

before that and i became really close friends with this girl alicia there's a film called moxie and while we were filming that movie i realized that she had um been auditioning for say by the bell and i met with tracy wigfield who had the idea to bring it back like the summer before, but I was, I wasn't planning on doing it because I like had just for the very first time, which now looking back, it sounds so stupid that I was like, I'm saying no to this. Say where the bell reboot,

but like it was the very first time in my entire life I ever could just be myself and be in school. And I realized that I had spent the past almost decade just dressing up as like someone else and being on set all day yeah and then never having these like imperative moments that like make your young adult life like what it's supposed to be or your teen life and then like i just kept getting closer with her and then i remember like the day that she booked it i like was i was like crying for her and that was like one of the final straws um that like helped me realize like i should probably this is a sign that i should probably

like do this and obviously with the the role and tracy being so amazing and so i said yes and we ended on a friday of that movie and we had our first table read that monday oh wow i got to be with her for two and a half years straight and then she ended up moving in with me and that was just amazing i didn't realize that at least he had been like on this journey with you through multiple stages and then and then did she go to chapman too or did she go or no she didn't go to time and we joke that she like kind of like did um because our best friend yasmin who's doing the podcast with lisi and i is my best friend from college um so she went to chapman honestly saved

by the bell was it was so it was such like a joy to watch because it really was not what anyone thought it was going to be i think people probably thought probably maybe even what you thought when you heard oh you're being offered a saved by the bell reboot it's like oh is it going to be not to you know not in the pejorative even i don't even say this but like corny like the original one was in that is it going to be after school specialist or what's going on and then you hear tracy wickfield and probably get to know her and then maybe even see a script and you're like, Oh my God,

this is real jokes. It's hard jokes. It's self-aware, very self-aware. Like the characters are interesting and funny. Like that had to be like a pretty cool thing to like understand that it was going to play to the top of intelligence instead of like being for kids. Yeah.

So cool. A hundred percent. it was going to play to the top of intelligence instead of like being for kids yeah so cool 100 and i think that's such a testament to how smart tracy is and i think we never really doubted that because i mean she went from being like a writer's assistant on 30 rock to winning the emmy for writing the emmy i remember that year yeah she's like just so intelligent and wonderful. And looking back, I'm like, why wouldn't I have done that? I mean, to this day is the best role I've ever played. It's the best writing. And I'm, you know, you guys, I'm sure are familiar with some of the writers on that show.

Like Chris Schleicher. Dwayne. Yeah. Chris is a dear friend of ours. Yeah. Dwayne Rickens. And some of those writers, most of them, like Ben and Aaron Geary. I said that like they're married.

I don't know Ben's last name. They're like, they're two straight men who I'm like wanting to, I want them to be gay. So, but I've known them for like seven years. So, these people are now seven years, but like at the time it was like five years. So these people, or now seven years, but like at the time it was like five years. So they knew exactly how I spoke

or like what would sound the best coming out of my mouth. So I just had the best material to work with. You're so fucking good in it, Josie. Like just the deliveries are so, so sharp. I mean, the character of Lexi too is just like so well developed i think it's a testament to you being a producer on the show and giving it some real some some reality to like what being like a trans student at a high school might be like in this day and age yeah in a way

that is not like it is it is not disempowered like Lexi's a very fun, comfortable, confident person, but then she still has these moments in this recent season where she is reticent to be this poster child for trans identity when this trans student at another school gets kicked off the soccer team. I thought that was so genius.

It's not this expected narrative of like, oh, well then lexi would react just like this very predictable way in in in the container of like an after-school special from the 80s and like the old saved by the bell iteration i just think it's such i mean tracy is a genius and it's so fun that you get to play like the jenna maroney type of person and like a 30 rock dna show you know like now like every show since 30 rock that's done through tina and and robert and tracy and you know all these people like that lineage is so

essential like i don't remember i like this is my favorite kind of comedy i don't know yeah same i was truly just so lucky and i I mean, I would just die laughing. And I don't think I realized like how exactly lucky I was. I knew that I was really lucky in those moments. But like looking back now, being on other projects, I'm like, I was truly just given like a giant, like juicy, delicious cake to just bite off of every single day and there was never a moment where i didn't have genuine fun and i think that's why i think that reflected in that character too and i don't think i'll ever play a character like that in that way again um which is sort of sad but also i feel like that was very healing for me because i

think as a child that character is that is like the one that i like aspired to be or that type of like aspirational girl character that i think a lot of like queer people can relate to i feel like we look we look up to like you know the britney spears of the mall or... Regina George, but like... Regina George. Keep on up with her. Exactly. Like the clueless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble I encourage delusional dreamers be a delusional dreamer just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer I just had such an anger I was just so mad at life everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault

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So you mentioned aspiring from childhood, which sort of brings us to our centerpiece question of this podcast, which was josey toto what is the culture that made you say culture is for you this is the formative pop culture in your life that you can look back and be like oh yeah that sort of made me that sort of made me me i mean there's so many things i think definitely every single pack in addition of the sims game oh here we go yeah like true are you a sims fan i would lose this is what i would spend my summers doing like in full on high school when i like could have a social life i would play the sims 2 same for nine hours straight um literally same i i like had glued my eyes to a pc that i bought

just to play sims oh wow i had the katie perry pack like the candyland pack or whatever and then i had like the college dorm one i had every single pack and like just getting to create my own world and kill people like back when that was like a fun thing to do and like wasn't bad like didn't kill them in a bad way it was like you'd set the house on fire or something right of course just like it was really liberating and just like getting to get people pregnant and i know making them a whole thing it was like so fun the fact that um you had the katie perry pack is so funny because it's when when i was playing sims it was like you get the avril lavigne pack remember that bow that was like an avril

lavigne one you could add on and it was just like so fun i feel like she made a comeback yeah they need to do another she did they need to do that again oh my i was more of a roller coaster tycoon little gay but like it was the sims was major and i remember the the cheat code you could put in what was what was it rose like a ton of money a rosebud yeah rosebud you could type rosebud into the top right corner whatever and you'd get so much money and you'd be able to make like mcmansions which if you look back pretty much every mansion you made with all that unlimited money was the same as the one you'd made before it was all the same you couldn't ignore your own taste but it never stopped being fun now it was so fun and i think just being a young child who just like drink like dreamt so much about what i wish my life

was like and whatever like i would live that life through the sim and for that i thank them i thank all of them i wonder if like in 20 years like you know how people say like there are certain signs of a psychopath if you know being addicted to playing the sims is like a major will become a major sign in the dsm well we didn't know she was an arsonist but looking back she did burn a lot of her sims alive saying it felt empowering like i feel like that might just happen yeah well what i would do is and this this is truly crazy but i would trap them in a bath i would trap them in a room like i would i would take the doors off the room and they would like hold their like genitals and they had to pee so bad and then they would just piss themselves. They would fall to the ground, piss themselves, and then remember when

they would have shame? Turn into an urn. Yes. Oh my god, shame. Shame was such a thing. Or when they would faint from being too tired or not being fed. Yeah. God. That was insane. This is like what war criminals

use to have fun. But I don't think the way we're talking about it, it just it's very soapy, right? You're like you would get like like Josie, you were like, I would get these people pregnant. I would like I would always like have I would always have people cheat on each other. Like it was it's it's it helped me like develop like creativity in terms of like a storytelling instinct to be like oh well that now this person is gonna do this a hundred percent i think that's definitely a major factor i really i think that a sign of a psychopath is maybe that i just remembered the word rosebud was the cheat code did either of you remember that it was rosebud because that like that lives yeah that's

crazy but honestly it's like you know like the secretaries in your brain when they go through the filing cabinets and they find something and you're like oh my god not that still how did you find that like i don't know what what the fact i must have been much more obsessed than i thought but i'm telling you i was one of those like boring kids that didn't use the expansion packs i couldn't like figure them out so i was just on the sims too like constantly like rose budding, making a mansion that had the same like leopard print Lisa Rinna floor. Like it was just ridiculous.

Like going nowhere with my design aesthetic. Like definitely tacky, buying the biggest vase I could and then just killing them inside. A million percent. Well, there's still a Sims culture. There's still like a Sims culture that's going strong. Oh, for sure.

I think it's like the younger Jenny. Yeah. Like the preteens are really into it. I think it gets younger and younger as time goes on. What is it now? How has it evolved? Sims 4. It's Sims 4.

Now you can play on your phone, which is crazy. Because I never got to do that. Yeah. That feels unwieldy to play on your phone. Yeah, it feels wrong. I need to be sitting down. There's something about uploading it and putting it in, turning the computer on. Yeah. And really getting in, really waiting for it to load.

PC life. Oh my gosh. Wow. PCs. They really did reign supreme. They were like the dinosaurs of the time. They really were. Before Mac came in, there were some of them that ruled the earth and they were PCs. They really did reign supreme. They were like the dinosaurs of the time. They really were. Before Mac came in, there were some of them that ruled

the earth and they were PCs. I feel so bad for them because they're just so ugly. They're just naturally ugly. And I can say that because I'm on an Apple series now. There you go. I've lost all sense of partnership. Now that you're on an Apple series, you can

really be pro-MacBook like never before. I can really share my true feelings. Although, weirdly, they haven't given me anything. Oh, that's a shame. See? I know. It's so weird. I'm like, why do we work for you? Actually, when the new iPhone comes out

in a month, you should tell your people through the Apple reps, hey, give me a free iphone i'm gonna throw my phone into the fucking scottish river the day that comes out i'm gonna say that it fell out of my hand due to the the violent wind at edinburgh and i'm gonna demand a new phone can you say what you're working on has it been like announced and stuff like what is it it's an it's an apple series it i think it's called the buccaneers um and it is about uh the 1800s you guys it's crazy it's about five girls who come to england from new york um to like find find husbands but then like obviously shit goes down and they all have their own whatever intentions and um objectives and i

play a very a character that is like extremely against the the type of person that you would see portrayed in those times if that makes any sense at all. But it's not a trans character. It's not a trans character, but I just mean my journey is very antithetical to the types of stories that we've seen in that period.

Which is fun for me. What's it called? It's called The Buccaneers. Which I learned means strong... It means cowboy, but also means cowboy but also like gay pirate basically so basically basically i went to high school and our mascot was the buccaneers and i was like oh it means gay pirate i thought it was gay cowboy it doesn't really mean gay pirate but a buccaneer is a pirate and that's essentially probably why they called it that is because you guys did like go across the ocean to get to this new place right we did do that and i have always felt that a buccaneer was a way for a pirate to be like is he you know you know what i mean when they call

themselves right it's a gay word for pirate i feel i love that and i think that i should tell them that and they should they're gonna change the series man i can play gay pirates if they need someone yeah we really can't we would that would help us honestly but this is the thing on this show you know i'm so used to walking on a set and just being mentally fucking psycho and this is a normal show with like normal people who like aren't pitching fart jokes and like a monk calling you like breaking his vow of silence to call you a cunt like those are the types of things that like people are saying on this type of show so

i'm fully like i have to like reel it in and then then I go home at night and I write or I call Tracy Wigfield. We have like weekly calls and I get to like show my energy that way. But yeah, it's giving buttoned up. It's giving drama. It's giving like an actual actor. Okay. We know. That's fun.

We knew. We knew all along but i feel like i've i guess matt and i have not done enough have not done any drama so i feel like the vibe must be completely different from a comedy set where as you say you get to go on and be mentally fucking crazy yeah and it works and it's helpful and people love it it's so helpful and like everyone it's weird too because like on a comedy set you obviously don't just have like writers or whatever you have like everyone that's involved in the crew but because these people have done like the office and 30 rock and midi project like everyone understands like a like a joke structure and like the boom op will be like we'll laugh in the right way or like we'll understand something or like we'll

pitch you something randomly or like when you when you get a laugh out of like your camera operator like it means so much more to you it does yes then like a writer telling you that that that joke landed well or something and that energy doesn't exist it's still so fun and like i still love being on set but it's definitely like an adjustment. Yeah. I always wonder about that because even like this, the like sometimes you do a project and like it'll like the comedy will be there, but it's not necessarily laugh out loud on set just because of the type of comedy it is like probably for Saved by the Bell. There was a lot of laughter because it's a lot of hard jokes. Whereas like in in other things, like, for example example when we shot the movie fire island like

it was definitely a comedy but like the the crew was not cracking up because it wasn't that type of comedy then meanwhile with with the drama it's like especially someone coming from comedy who's for better or worse a little bit used to that type of affirmation after you do a take you do it and then it's a drama and you leave the scene and you're like well fuck was it anything was it good at all like i find myself quantify it yeah and then like honestly like what i've learned with older people i've worked with and people more experienced have just been like you have to know they would not period point blank they would not have moved on if they didn't get it you did did it. Just keep going. You won't kill yourself at the end of the day or at the end of a job

if you just let yourself up the hook. If they got it, they moved on. You're fine. A thousand percent. And I love that you mentioned Fire Island because you guys have stroked my ego so much and I haven't gotten to tell you how much I loved watching that film and how smart it was

and how talented you both are and also obviously um bowen i've told you how much of a fan i am of you um with um snl and like i was i've also been watching i love that for you recently i just got into it thank you so much i'm not kidding like i just got into and you are so amazing in that i feel like there's a world where i could play like a 40 year old anchor on that show somehow even as my age now that's like a goal yes yes you have to come on and sell products on the show i mean now i've literally i'm like i can sell frank ocean cock rings you should yes you'd absolutely crush no but you are you're so funny and i i love molly shannon and i worked with her when i was younger and just recently saw her at like a

engagement party and not mine um this young woman and she was just so wonderful and i love her so much she is like she you know's funny about Molly is like everyone always wants to know what she's like and as you know this is true when I got to introduce Bowen to her at that award show she's exactly the same as you think she's going to be her energy is just so

like funny and positive and very like energetic and I just love watching her get ready to do her thing like it probably was it really interesting working on the film that you worked on with her because she was playing a totally different thing and i think yes other people like really broke her open for everyone as being like more of a dramatic actress which now i think people understand and on i love that for you she's got a lot of dramatic moments and

we've seen like White Lotus and stuff where she's funny but it's more that there's like a heft to it but like watching her prepare herself she really is like it's not like this goofy energy that you think oh SNL like comedian like we've seen her crash through a table she's like really a capital A actress and it's very like inspiring to see like someone who obviously doesn't take themselves seriously and is like gone for it with sketch comedy, but also can drop in and do that other thing. Yep. A thousand percent. She is so wonderfully talented and definitely goes against the tropes of like what you might expect of her in that regard. And more importantly importantly she's just

so wonderfully humble and she's really kind and i remember in that movie other people i had like two scenes and she would went on like um jimmy fallon and yeah she had like shouted me out she shouted the whole cast out but like said my name also and it was like bradley whitford like who else was it like maude apatow jesse plummins and then she just like said my name also. And it was like Bradley Whitford, like who else was it? Like Maude Apatow, Jesse Pumans. And then she just like said my name. And I was like, what the fuck?

Why did, how do you know my name? Because she, she goes out of her way to find the names of people that she loves. Like she, she texted me and she was like, what was the name of that comedian that I did the scene with? I thought she was amazing.

And she was talking about Martha Kelly. Um, who's now got an emmy nomination from euphoria and she comes on the show on i love that for you as molly's astrologer and it's just so funny and molly followed up with me and was like i need you to give me her email or phone number because i need to reach out to her and tell her how much i loved her performance like that's just who she is she's just a godsend and amazing and i love her and tell her how much I loved her performance. That's just who she is. She's just a godsend and amazing.

And I love her. And what an amazing moment that you guys were category mates. You guys were in the same category. Which is crazy. That was like six years later. I go from being in two scenes of a film starring my idol and then suddenly I'm in the same category

as her. that was just so right i don't think i'll ever process that until i'm like out of work when i'm 15 i'm dreaming of being a child again you were unbelievable in that movie though i mean like it's truly like it's like if you remember like two two or three things from it like years later after watching it like you are lodged in the brain like you're so good stars i think about that film it's so funny i have never really told this publicly before but when i filmed that scene i had like it was we were in the middle of the summer and it was santa clarita it was like 106 degrees outside and there was no you can't put on your conditioning

when you're obviously filming as you guys know because of the noise yeah and i fully had a heat stroke and like nearly shit my pants oh no and naomi scott wife and just amazing person um of adam scott was producing the film along with adam and was just so kind to me and was like i don't like barely i basically like nearly fainted during the twerking scene. And so we broke for lunch an hour early and they let me take a shower in this random Airbnb-esque house, middle-class home that we were filming at. And I really got into the middle-class. I really got into the middle-class thing.

I really got into this middle class home, this woman's life in this middle class home. And I like put on her robe, like the owner of this house, this robe and her slippers. And like, I just got to chill in her rocking chair for like a tight 30 and ate some Chinese food and then was able to recover and finish the twerking.

And slay the gig. The fact that you remember these details. It's the fact that I sounded like Kim Kardashian when she did that middle class photo shoot. Did you guys ever see that? It was like middle class. Oh, you guys will be obsessed with this. No, she did an editorial photo shoot

that wasn't released with Kanye West where they were in a middle, like an upper middle class home but it was like middle class core and like it was like tile countertops and like wooden cabinets and like just a like a living spaces i love it it's kind of iconic look it up if you haven't seen it an editorial of like them at West Delmon being like this is too expensive right them like having a hushed

conversation about a $600 couch I'm like thank you anyway they're taking a trip down under wait you guys want to know something this is quick aside I feel so grounded because I have I have maybe a taste that's beyond my means sometimes.

But I did go to the mall here in Charlotte, North Carolina to buy an outfit for an under the sea prom which Meg Stalter threw last night. And I was like, I need to buy something with fish on it. And I went to Dillard's. I didn't know still existed. Dillard's? I went to Dillard's and then I

went to Dillard's and I looked at some price tags for a shirt. It was a disgusting shirt with a fish print on it. I looked at it. It was $80. I went, I'm not spending $80 on this. Then I was like, whoa. Jesus Christ. I feel like my mom.

Dillard's reminds me of my mom. Anyway, I was like, wow. I have not flown too far from the nest. I have not really strayed from the path too much because I was like, you know what? That wasn't because the $80 was too much. It's because it was too much for that bad shirt. Exactly.

You would pay for a nice shirt. You pay for a nice shirt. But then I did find a set that costs $30 total. And I was like, wow, I got a great bargain. And I really liked the way it looks. And I'm going to take it home with me. I felt, and this is disgusting to most of our listeners, to the readers,

but I'm like, okay, it felt nice and I want to return to that. That's all I'm saying. You need to go shop it. This is the most unrelatable thing. Yeah, this is insane. We're going to have to do another podcast with you to save your reputation when it gets shot to the ground this fall on bravo it's time to turn up

think you've seen it all i don't think you've been a good friend to me lately we're friends like that who needs enemies you ain't seen nothing yet cheers to being dramatic with the real housewives of potomac oh my gosh can, can I take this in? It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear pastels, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. or stream it on City TV+. biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble. I

encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.

At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes, dude. We got dogs. Dog. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak?

Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But I will say, I am financially an extremely unintelligent spender like i will unfortunately unethically religiously shop clothes only on amazon like i don't i don't think it's okay to like spend more than 50 for like a shirt but like that being said i will like

i will cancel like three flights in a row and spend like several thousands of dollars just because I'm like so lazy and or like I'll miss something so like that's where my money goes it's not like on things that matter it's like convenience that I mean I actually am in the same exact boat as you it's like I was just thinking to myself like where what's the area where I sink the most money that I probably don't need to and it for me it is travel like I think just because now I I like to travel a certain way but that being said that's the one I'm most cognizant of if I actually like sat here and like did the math how much I've spent on Postmates over the last few years especially over the last few years because of the pandemic My Postmates number is probably humiliating.

I probably should go to jail for it. Oh my God, same. I would Postmate, like when I was in college, I would like film Monday, Wednesday, and Friday all day. And then on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I would be in class for 12 hours a day and I would Postmate breakfast, lunch, and dinner to my lecture halls.

Yeah, wow. It was like a young woman's salary in Iowa was my like postmates. But there was no other way you could have done that. Like you need, like you had such a crazy life and work sort of like ethic around, like whatever, like that structure that was built around your job and your school

and your academics were, like there was no other way but for you to order delivery. That's true. Thank you for substantiating that. Where did you go to college and what was your major? Chapman, right? I want to know. I went to Chapman.

Yeah, I went to Chapman. And I was a television major. Same major in same school as Hannah Waddingham, who was also nominated in my category. And the winner. Who also referred to me as Rosie when I met her. Rosie Tota. Rosie.

She said, oh, Rosie. I was truly, I was honored. Oh, Rosie. You know, the rumor has it that she's going to be Madame Marble in the Wicked movie. Well, she'll be amazing in anything she does. She's so talented. I can hear her going, officially!

Love. I mean, what a great role. What a great role. I mean, Matt, you should go out for it. No. Okay. As we all know.

No, never mind. I won't say that. No, that's for the honesty zone. That's for the honesty zone. That's what you should tune in for. Tune in for the honesty zone. Okay, Josie, now that you've graduated,

have you reflected on your college experience at all? What are the big takeaways? What was it like for you? And this is true, you did Greek life. You were in a sorority. I did. I was. Okay, talk about it.

I did, period. I was, period. The trauma that just rushed through my mind. I could see it. I did period I was period the trauma that just rushed through my mind you know I have such an interesting it really is like a film

to be made which was that when I started school I think I did what a lot of people do when they start college which is like what is the life that I want how do I want to make this life for myself? You know, it's like the addiction to the possibility and you're doing everything that you think you should be doing to have a good experience. And you're hanging out with, you know, those people that you've been told through like

the media or like friends in the past, like that's what you do to enjoy life. And I'm actually so grateful for it because I met my best friend in the entire world. Yasmin, who's my cohost of, of dare we say through the sorority. Um, but I also had like a,

like a miniature, um, microcosm experience of like what I think a lot of people and like not equating what I did in my sorority to like what senators do on like a legislative floor but in that like you can't really adjust and like change something that's like working how it's supposed to be working right and I very much went into it which was like I'm gonna make sorority is good and i'm gonna like diversify and like whatever and like use that as a pastime and then realize like even if everybody wants to

make sororities good or whatever that means or like change the um systemic oppression that it's so rooted in it's still built in a system to oppress and it will always do that so that was the journey that i went on with that but i also had so many fun parties and like met a ton of cool people that's great but it is sad to realize like oh it's maybe sororities are supposed to be not good i think so and like i'm happy that i did it i like it's so it's crazy now because i truly had an ego death my like my last semester of school where like i realized i just i wanted to do every single thing that i didn't which i think a lot of people do every single thing that i didn't get to do up until that point that like i would have wanted to do if i didn't have yeah like my blinders on telling me like what I needed to do and that was like

invest in the film school and like I took another Arabic class I took a political science class and I just had like the most amazing time every weekend being on a film set and like I was you know obviously filming like not real TV show but like a tv show that existed on a on a network on it like and then also doing like um being a grip on like a student film on the weekends at the same time and like running back and forth and that was such an amusing experience and that was like my favorite probably oh that's so cool yeah it's great that is it's like it's like really a good excuse to get like at least at least not necessarily well-rounded because I feel like that happens when you get in the industry and you already

were in the industry. So it probably was like even like better opportunity for you to see like having been involved in industry. Here are the holes where I would want to like, you know, have this experience or that experience. And then I guess it ended up, up you know with you being a grip for sure which like was insane um that was truly unhinged it was like i was doing like an f45 workout that like never ended yeah it's hard it was like boot camp and like my my grip guy was like making making like jokes about like chicks to me like as if i was like a cishet man and he was like you're not gay and i was like no i'm just like

i'm just gripping for to help out and like you're not gay no i'm just gripping to help no i'm just gripping yeah what was your grip outfit what would you wear what would you wear to set us yeah what was it i wear what what is colloquial referred to as a lululemon bbl jacket um which is like yeah that's the colloquial term exactly it is and um on tiktok and then um like like a little a line legging um and cute just like a cute sneak it's giving soccer it's giving big little eyes it's giving like soccer mom in monterey and i also had covid the entire time that i was a grip on that project and i had no idea i had not one idea rosie rosie rosie i kept testing negative and then i tested positive but i didn't infect anyone yeah that's the thing isn't that amazing yeah it's like sometimes like

i will feel horrible and i'll be like i have covid i know it and then everyone around me will have covid and i'll test test test, test, test. I went to like, what I found out later was a super spreader straight wedding last month. And I felt like horrible during it, after it. Like, I was just like, what's going on? I took a million tests, never said it was COVID. And now I just have to keep living my life like I didn't have it again. But I'm like, but what was it?

Weird. It's also weird, too. Like, it seems like before everyone, like, tests positive for COVID, they managed to see, like, every single person they've ever met. Yeah, from, like, high school. The hours leading up to it. Like, I truly, I went on a world tour before I tested positive. I, like, filmed an entire short film.

I went to an after party for my castmates film i saw my parents i saw my siblings um i like went to class i went to several classes like unmasked there was no mass mandate and like no i texted every single person and it's just it's such a testament to like how we've evolved in the pandemic i like put everyone in one of my classes in a group chat and was like hey um just like wanted to like fully let you guys know full disclosure i did test positive for covid i know i was sitting next to you guys like please let me know if i need to pay for any covid tests or like any if i need to call someone for you um hit me up at any time like xoxo and she was offering to pay for tests oh my god

like one person responded and was like lol okay like and then no one else responded like it was as if i had just just said absolutely nothing to them like i had spoke gray matter and they like didn't give a fuck and I just confessed my soul to them well yeah that's you were very vulnerable and they did not return it in kind that's no they didn't care they didn't care well okay was my advice I have a stupid question which is did was was Disneyland like a big part of going to Chapman or no because you guys are close to Anaheim I thought it was gonna be and I even got a pass and then I like never went I think it is for some people but it's kind of like I don't know it's like why would you ever really go to Disneyland on an off day if you

think about it if you could really do anything else like why would you want to tire yourself out that much for just virtually no reason well if you're if you're going with the intent to like do a lot of stuff you know what i mean like that's the thing is it's not a relaxing experience if you're going and you're like and we gotta get hit all the rides but it's like an adventure bone and i've gone before and it's been like we're we're we're just doing a leisurely walk. We're in California Adventure. We're vibing. We have our little cocktails. We've taken maybe some shrooms and we're more vibing.

We're more just paying all that money to vibe. I love that. I do love the vibe. And I did do a lot of shopping at Downtown Disney, I will say, because there's like no stores in Orange County that weren't ran by racists. Right, right. Huge, huge deal. That is a major thing you stores in Orange County that weren't ran by racists right right huge that is a major thing you remember about Orange County is she be conservative oh my next door neighbor was fully a

Trump supporter and my I was surrounded Kirsten Dunst no yeah Kirsten Dunst a Trump supporter I was like neighbor banged by Blue Lives Matter people um what like they were i was surrounded by blue lives matter people yeah oh my god and just like i had a little sexy secret of like maybe one day i'll just like write trans on my forehead and see what happens because they they were so nice to me because i like i'm obviously white passing and um white presenting and like cis straight presenting and yeah i just like wanted to ruin their day i dreamed of the day i would tell them let me get over here and tell you the truth i mean but wait the expression neighbor banged what is really one that's gonna live rent free in my mind like the people on either side of you like

are neighbor banging you it's like hot box wait that's that's that's that's the title of that i thought it was addiction to possibility but it's neighbor banged neighbor i should always see what the guest says yeah okay for exclamation point exclamation point i mean it could mean many things one of which is like a yeah a small dream that I had actually in quarantine. Again, not by Kirsten Dunst, but by the house to the left of me. Anyway, we're not going to get into it. Wait,

is it a well-known person? Actually, I think the mom is well-known, but the child is not. Not the child. He's fully an adult. He's of age. He's of age to neighbor bang me,

if that were a neighbor. He's like 24 years old. He's like a fully functioning adult. He's a vase. He's a vase to neighbor bang me, if that were a vase. He's like 24 years old. He's like a fully functioning adult that is legal. Anyway, it didn't happen. It didn't happen yet. It didn't happen. No.

Hmm. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute.

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I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude. And Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just

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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian.

Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.

At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about

guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me,

you won't want to miss this one. Speaking of It Didn't Happen Yet, one segment on this podcast that hasn't happened yet is called I Don't Think So Honey. And it is a 60-second segment

that we all do where we take a minute, which is actually colloquially known as also 60 seconds, and we sort of rant and rail at something in pop culture

that we absolutely can't believe hasn't been taken down at this juncture. I do have something, Bowen Yang. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey, His Time Starts Now. I don't think so honey, Teresa Giudice's hair at her wedding and therefore all tri-state area women's hair

at their wedding when they decide to reallystate area women's hair at their wedding when they decide to really go for it we need to take a step back and i'm talking to all you girls getting ready for the prom in the tri-state area everyone getting ready for an event in the tri-state area if you decide to go big and you tell a long island or jersey hairstylist that you will end up with what happened to theresa drew dice's head yeah I swear to god and knowing Teresa Giudice from the Real Housewives of New Jersey it's not like she knows what camp is it's not like she turned to her makeup artist and hairstylist and said let's go camp no someone was either fucking with her or they were just a jersey hairstylist that really got licensed to go

for it and I'm telling you look look at the pictures. Speaking about this wedding as a whole, I can't believe Melissa and Joe weren't there. I can't wait for the new season. I can't believe Jackie and Margaret were there and Melissa and Joe

were not. I need to see what happens. But from what I'm seeing right now is all that hair. Tri-state area women, take a breath. I don't think so. And that's one minute.

Honestly, have you seen the pictures? Amazing. i just saw that article it's incredible it's great it's truly shocking i'm your jaw drops i've seen it multiple times in the last like 12 hours and i'm like oh my god every time i'm like wow that's so much hair because it's truly the biggest deal wedding of the year in that entire state i mean like dave mazzone was joking earlier that like he's he's on the jersey shore right now and people are talking about it everywhere you go as if she's princess like it's the royal wedding yeah like it's the royal wedding and then

they they released some video of her coming out of the church because i guess she got married outside the church they open the doors and she's looking down and she just looks up and her hair is so big and you just hear the crowd audibly gasp like, and it's just like, it truly is like a Jersey fever dream, but knowing it's Teresa and like all the like drama around this wedding and the fact that her dear family is not there because of falling out. I just couldn't,

I couldn't believe it. And just understanding like, like how heavy that has to feel on your head right oh my god oh wow like yeah that's she was in pain all night and you guys are both wigs queens i would imagine occasionally right i'd say i mean i know what it's like to have them yeah but like they're heavy when they're big they're heavier it's painful well if they're expensive if they're big, they're heavier. It's painful. Well, if they're expensive, if they're nice enough, they're not heavy. Oh, I guess that's true. But also just having a wig on period for an extended amount of time is just uncomfortable.

No, it's so comfortable. And you're sweating and it's like pinning in your head and it's not the good kind of pain. I just couldn't believe that she was like, yes, this is what's going to make me feel the best on my wedding day. And it has to be, it has to be, I'm going to say, like a solid four feet of hair. Like it's like. A hundred percent. And it's high too. Are you a housewives person, Josie?

I'm going to look up. I unfortunately like I'm going to look up. I unfortunately am against all queer stereotypes. I have watched a full episode of RuPaul's or Housewives, but That's okay. I'm so in the know. I'm very in the know. Obviously, I'm very into Utah and

everything that's going on with What's Her Fuck? Oh, Jen Shrew. What's Her Fuck? Obviously, Teresa, I know very well as I religious religiously watched um wendy williams report on her for several years i see oh yeah wendy wendy was obsessed i'm sort of an adjacent stan right i got it well so we're so you're aware of what this wedding means and what and how she's appear chosen to appear at it. A hundred percent. A very visible wedding. That's the thing.

She knew there was going to be eyes on it. Yeah. We're talking about it. We're talking about it. We're talking about it. But I will say, having been from Long Island, some people I knew

going to prom and stuff, it's like like beautiful girls, like like very pretty girls. And then they get ready for prom and it's like they've given someone license to put like someone else, an adult woman's face on her face and like really blow it out. And like, I'll tell you the changes in skin color that happen i just what i want to tell people is that you are never going to look good orange orange is not the skin tone for anyone and you think that you're going to be you'd at least reach back to your four sisters and say hey how do i avoid looking like you did on this event that is going to be photographed a lot? And it's like no one has the answer. They keep going.

They keep becoming orange. We're stuck. We're stuck. And it sucks because, like, I mean, I've seen it happen to people close to me where it's just like, oh, yeah, getting ready for a sweet 16 or a prom or, like, to be a bridesmaid. And they come out and you're like, Debra, what? You're like, who are you mom like i don't recognize these girls i know i know i mean no one looks their best at that time

that's that's the other thing yeah no one looks their best for the biggest event of their life because you try too hard right that's why people always say like your birthday glam is like always uglier than like your everyday glam yes like i feel like men think that secretly they're like i just i love i love thinking about what men think about you know because i'm so concerned with like the male gaze i mean and they're like yeah when they get dressed up too much, it doesn't look so good. And that's one area where we should listen to them. Exactly. I know. I had to

talk about what Teresa appeared as. Bowen Yang, are you ready to do I Don't Think So, Honey? I'm ready. All right. Well, this is a great moment for us all. It's Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. And his time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey, Republic time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, Republic Records, which is a division of Universal Music Group

for stalling this Kim Petras album and leaving it in this limbo for two years. It leaked this past week, and it's excellent. It's a very good album. I don't know how much this has to do with Dr. Luke. Dr. Luke, who produced, I think, all of it. That's also a problem.

I mean, my hope is that this phrase up came to work with other producers because I think she is aware and speaking as someone who's talked to her about this, not to name drop it, it's like, I think she, I think it's a good time for her to kind of disengage

from that system because it has obviously given her so much, but I think it has also stunted a lot of progress in her career by not letting her release this album. There's great songs on it. If my recommendations are problematic, the title track of the album, obviously coconuts future starts now deeper is an amazing song.

Sex talk. Um, anyway, it's a great album, but it's also a tragic moment in her career i think i hope she rises from the ashes of this and that's one minute i i too listened to it and enjoyed it a lot but i only listened to it because she basically tweeted out being like hey yeah go ahead listen to the leaked album because they're not letting me put it out anyway what what is the deal with labels

doing that it's tough i think it's i don't know like it's like a money thing because i watched a video about sisa's um album never like her album never getting released right and it's because her album alone is like without it's a five-year-old album it's still like the top five female selling albums every single year oh control yeah yeah since she released it and so there's no point of them to bring it back that's uh it's so confounding i really don't get the this damn industry none of it makes sense it really it's all about bottom line shit it's all it's always about bottom line stuff that's the thing is it seems like it has to all be about like well if we're going to put this out it has to immediately recoup and like i feel like the people that are making the decisions on whether or not this music is going to be embraced

often aren't the audience for that music. And so that's, I guess, what's weird about it is it's just like, if the people that own these labels are like a certain type of person, like they're not going to understand, especially with music, which is so personal and so subjective. It's like, like you're making decisions about what's going to work, but it's like, it's just so subjective it's like like you're making decisions about what's gonna work but it's like it's just not it's not your thing so how could you gauge whether or not someone who's like really young and a different type of consumer is gonna like

this but it seems like they're comfortable doing that all the time right it's crazy anyway i mean but but yeah her album sounds great and i do hope for more for her because i think she's a great pop star like and i've seen her live and she's incredible got an amazing voice live and she's so amazing she's such a fucking legend so incredible speaking of being on dramas not being able to be crazy i did rap last friday night and played treat me like a slut like out loud and then just immediately saw the eyes turn at me and i was just like yeah fucking suck it yeah i walked outside of my scottish warehouse i was proud honestly it might be the first time the scottish like countryside the edinburgh of all like have

heard treat me like a slut i i think they were grateful i mean that's what i hope i think i think anyone should be grateful to hear Treat Me Like a Slut. I loved Slut Pop. I mean, Slut Pop was huge for me. It was a great moment in music of this year, I felt. Great. All right. So it's now become time.

It's time for Josie Totes' I Don't Think So, Honey. Now that you've had two examples of how to absolutely slay the format. Watch me have a fucking seizure. Okay, perfect. All right, Bowen. I'd be really happy if... You haven't had any type of health emergency since your incredible performance in Other

People, and now your incredible performance today is being accompanied by another health hazard. I love it. I know, that would be amazing. Okay. That would be amazing. This is Josie Tota, aka Rosies. Yes, I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. Okay, this is my I don't think so, honey. Khloe Kardashian and Tristan Thompson

welcomed their second baby via surrogate. And as a woman, I believe it is very important not to comment on other women's relationships because you just never know what's going on inside. However, this time, I'm going to.

I feel that this is necessary because even though that she's welcoming the baby via a surrogate, I think about it like the fact that when I was very, very young, I did get like a slight nose tweak while getting a breathing surgery. And which is why I thank God that I am trans

and I can't have my own child because I couldn't bear having my child look like me pre-nose job. And so I'm like, when you have this baby, even though it's a surrogate baby he's still gonna have the dna of a cheater and is gonna grow up to be as despicable as tristan thompson is oh my god for that i say that i'm disappointed um i mean i still wish her all the best but ultimately i kind of just have to say that i feel bad for her in that way and i don't

think so honey period that's one minute honestly i just i have so many questions about the kardashian women and but then i don't because i understand why they pick who they pick because none of them are gonna last and they're gonna have another media narrative after this so like i think like it's i think it's entirely seasonal it's entirely by design that kim kardashian is like yeah i picked pete davidson like you know what i mean like someone that it's like duh of course there's an expiration date on it it's pete and then like and then we're all watching it like maybe this is the one it's like let's not be dumb like they do this on

purpose like chloe picks this type of guy not because she wants to be happy because she wants to prolong a media narrative i think you think i honestly think that she is just a confused queen like i truly believe chloe is a good person and i just everyone says they miss the old they miss well it sounds like you're saying she should die. I'm just kidding. No. I think that she is good intentioned. I just think when... I just think she has a really bad attachment style and it has gone to her

and she is crippling anxiety and she's also very insecure because the world sort of does hate her in some ways and does hate on her much more than her other sisters do because people like love hate on kim kardashian but they hate hate chloe do they i love chloe no people come for chloe in her looks really more than they do any of her sisters and even kim has said that sure yeah well i guess i guess i i understand like that that's true but also feel like chloe is like the kardashian of the people and i feel like probably

the hardcore fans of the kardashians like gun to their head if they had to say who their favorite kardashian is like i bet chloe would get a ton or maybe even a majority of those votes but then i'm not even thinking about like the larger populace that are all familiar with them just because of how they exist and yeah probably it is tough for her no but i i agree with you and i think that's a testament to like when you like let people think that like they can be your best friend or that they can just like say anything to you it's like very welcoming and warm but it also allows people to cross the boundaries and like come for you. So what I'm saying is it's her fault.

Oh, we know that. We know that. Yeah, that's what you're saying. But what a big week for those, for at least the three Kardashian sisters. Right. Kim and Khloe and Kourtney with the whole Megan Fox thing.

I'm like, what is, something's going on just in this week alone I don't know it's always wild well I guess my perspective on it is just like whenever I hear they're dating someone new because I'm not like a fan of the Kardashians

I'm not it's kind of like you with watching like I'm aware enough of like what goes on with them like but every time i hear them dating someone new whether it's tristan thompson or travis scott or travis barker or pete davidson or like whoever whoever i'm always just like not only do they feel interchangeable to me but they're often just like every relationship has the same vibe of like like because it's all so transient and and if you choose to not like like actually think about like what their relationships are like it all feels the

same and if you just sit with it and don't don't think about it for like nine months it will have passed and it gets it like is filled by someone else almost immediately. Yeah. Even the Kanye thing, even the Kanye thing in the grand scheme didn't feel like it was taking place over that long a period of time. Cause it was just like, yeah. And I still remember her dating Chris Humphries and being married to him. I still like, it's just like,

they occupy this weird space where I'm just like, who are they dating? Oh, it's like, I keep forgetting, but also I always know it's just, it's this weird thing. I'm just like, who are they dating? It's like, I keep forgetting, but also I always know it's just, it's this weird thing. I can't really explain it.

True. I just, I, you know, I agree. And it's hard to keep up with. And I feel like for most people's mental health, it's probably easiest not to,

even though it's hard to, but I was just saying in another interview that I feel like Pete's next angle should be like a really hot old person, like Jane Fonda or like share like i just feel like that would make the most sense for me or like celine dion yeah where does he like that he loves jane fonda he loves me that's where he should go because you can't after kim kardashian you you kind of have to go like either really old or i mean i guess you yeah I think really old you can't date an infant obviously what's going to happen is he's

going to reinvent he's going to have all of his tattoos removed he's going to reinvent as a Hollywood leading man he's going to bulk up a little bit we're going to see him in Marvel I think it honestly helps him that he's not dating her for when that movie comes out where he's like playing that singer Pete's a good

actor wait joey ramon that's what oh yeah he's wow i didn't realize academy award nominee here it is coming right around the corner so listen dare we say this was an excellent episode of this podcast and the, dare we say, is going to be one that you're going to want in your immediate rotation. And I'm imploring all the readers to add this one to the damn queue. I mean, please, read away. Read the house down boots.

And I'm so grateful that you guys allowed me on this Zoom call. And I'm so happy to be in the podcast space. I'd love for you guys to come on our pod. I think we accept any time. We could, I don't think so, honey. Girlboss to the sky, to the sun. Girlboss to the sky.

I would love that. That sounds like an incredible opportunity for all of us to grow boss to the skies with and i can't wait to lose at another award show with you again i can't wait and to be and by the way congratulations on your eminem yes oh that but see that's already something that i'll lose that i'll lose but no that's not true in which i no no no take the comp take a compliment thank you you deserve it but also randomly i just realized i just reprimanded you the way that i just dropped you there that was like i love it i love people that was iconic dom bowen when he's kind of hot the way that i just that was like a power top it was hot and powerful top but something that I thought was really funny I was like I was filming

like two weeks ago and I got a text from my mom like when the Emmy noms came out or whatever and my mom was like oh did you did you text Bowen congrats and I'm like I'm not like that good of friends but I'm not like super close with Bowen

where I would text him congratulations like, of course I would DM you on Instagram or like swipe up on something. And then like, I didn't respond to her because I was filming and she texted me that night

and was like, have you texted Bowen yet? And I'm like, now I'm telling you congrats for my mother on your Emmy nomination. That's very nice. And from every mom in America,

congrats to you Bowen. And congrats to you. Thank you. I was going to say, I can't wait to lose at another awards ceremony with you, with both of you, and to be neighbor-banged by Joshua Jackson and Jodi Turner-Smith. Oh, can only hope. Can only hope.

This has been incredible. And thank you so much for coming on. We're Mage fans. And Bow, we end every episode with a song treat me like a slut I'm a dirty bitch I love to fuck treat me like a slut

dirty bitch I love to fuck and if you want to hear more harder I want to I want to neighbor bang if you want to hear more of that listen to I want a neighbor bang. If you want to hear more of that, listen to Celeste Pop, the extended play by Kim Petras.

Thank you. Bye. I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby,

an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind scenes stories crazy details and honestly just having a blast talking football every week we're discussing our favorite players of all times

from legends to our buddies to current stars we're finally answering the age old question what kind of dudes are these dudes we're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, Elian Gonzalez, was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami.

Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.