Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Not For Lack of Trying!" (w/ Aaron Jackson & Josh Sharp)
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Look, Matt.
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling.
Welcome.
Welcome all.
Welcome to the show.
Well, there's room for everybody.
Let's just say that.
Everyone get in.
The water's great.
The show's starting.
Oh, Bowen.
I think you need a water show.
You need a show that's in the water.
Thank you for saying that.
Like whatever that Poseidon Adventure thing at Universal was.
You're talking about Poseidon's Fury.
Poseidon's Fury, not Poseidon Adventure.
It's of course a show.
Well, the Poseidon Adventure is famously a film that stars-
I know, I got them mixed up.
Believe her name was Shelley Winters.
I'm an immigrant.
I don't know the culture.
Of course.
This film was not available around the world.
No.
So there's a movie called The Poseidon Adventure
where someone got an Oscar nomination
for diving in the water and swimming.
Did you know this?
Well, Kate Winslet's about to come for their hardware
because she held her breath for seven minutes for the new Avatar.
I'm so happy that we're submerged, so to speak,
in this water talk, in this water culture,
because it is almost summer.
And I'm really excited to get on the beach
and swim around a little bit and certainly get into pools.
Well, you can't do it yet in Miami because they have those curfews going, darling dear.
And they're throwing little, and they're just like actually like driving the people, the
kids away saying, don't come here.
Dear sister of mine, I have people that I follow on Instagram who are in Miami.
All of them are in Miami.
And they're popping off.
Yeah. I think we're past
the COVID vacation stigma
at this point, but
I don't know.
Isn't it so weird that, like, Gays Over COVID,
like, we all kind of had to be on both sides
of it, and then the pendulum
swung so hard each way. You're not
even taking this conversation seriously. No, I really am.
Well, can I be totally honest with you?
Yeah. Gays over COVID,
I never actually understood
if I was supposed to be supporting it
or mad at it. No, exactly.
And so I find myself on both
sides of it, just for sheer
lack of... If I start to try to understand
the reasoning for why we hate
it, why we support it, I feel like
I will die yes oh my god
it's lethal dear for you all i was saying was i was excited to get into a body water preferably
with my sister and or sisters because you know i'm i made it political and you made it political
i actually have to address something that i did on the show last week go ahead take the floor
my i don't think so honey was about construction very nimby, came off very not in my backyard, and I apologize. And I thought that there was, you know, some awareness to it, but there wasn't. And I didn't mean to, and I even, whatever, we don't have to get into you need to apologize. I think this is classic example of people being stupid
and making it into more than it is.
I think it's very stupid.
And I would say anyone that came for Bowen
for being NIMBY,
which by the way,
sounds like a character in a damn Nintendo 64,
we should say that flat out.
It's being stupid
and they're being sort of sensationalist.
You know what I mean?
Because I don't think so many construction,
it's so loud.
That's all it was.
It was just about noise.
But then for it to be an individual complaint,
there's no way it doesn't come off as NIMBY.
You know what I'm saying?
See, and people were saying Bowens and NIMBY, Bowens and NIMBY.
And I really thought to myself,
this must be video game jargon that I don't know.
If you had told me that NIMBY wasn't a Kirby type,
you know what I mean?
Like when I see NIMBY in my head.
What does NIMBY look like, girl?
Well, I'll explain.
So NIMBY is, he's a small marshmallow with a yellow hat
and like a stupid face.
And when I say stupid face,
I mean two big black eyes and one big white mouth.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
It's so stupid.
And his feet are little red circles.
Okay.
And he sort of is very much like Kirby.
Really what I'm describing is like Kirby in a yellow hat.
But that's what I thought when everyone was like, Bowens came out as a NIMBY.
I said, what did I miss in the episode where we talked about this NIMBY? Because usually I'm very keyed
in and know what's happening. And I didn't know what NIMBY was. So to hear you say not in my
backyard, I'm to understand that a NIMBY is a person who is what? Someone who is just like,
construction shouldn't happen in terms of like uh offering group housing or um affordable
housing that kind of thing didn't you say in your i don't think so honey we need i said in my own
i think so honey i was like there we have enough buildings but maybe people misread that as
oboans saying that things are fine the way they are in terms of the housing situation which is
not what i meant i just meant i think people want to listen to this episode and that's why
they're upset that you're such a nimby you know what i mean i think
nimby i think nimby is is part of dnc as part of radical centrism which is everything that i stand
for radical centrism i i well first of all that's a very cool and second of all as a radical centrist
um i you're coming out as radical centrist too no no no i'm ultra progressive
i think that aoc is a radical centrist compared to me i think that we all should be you know
fucking each other you're afraid to use the word socialist oh no i'm not afraid i'm not afraid of
anything if i'm afraid of anything it's um nuclear war huge spiders yeah and um any of my
close sisters getting sick
speaking of close sisters
well can I just close the loop on one thing
I'm excited to get in the water
with my sister
I'm really excited for this true
beautifully
temperate spring
natural spring we're about to
just really soak into for the next four hours, let's say.
And to pull back the curtain, I am going to New York.
Oh my God.
To see my sister.
And I'm really excited to sort of reveal that to our girls who are here in the Zoom chat
to be guests on Las Culturistas.
They're, I think, 19th time on the show.
19.
And I think that one thing I would love is,
maybe not this time when I'm there,
but maybe over the summer,
and I plan to be in New York many times,
I think we should all get in the water together.
Oh, yeah.
That's all I think.
I think we should get in the water together
in some form.
Wouldn't you love to swim?
I would love to swim.
Oh, wouldn't you love it?
This feels like Little Mermaid 2.
Ugh, Ariel's revenge.
Ariel's revenge.
The daughter wants to go into the sea.
You know what would be a fun sequel
to Little Mermaid?
If Vanessa got into it.
Yeah.
Remember her?
I love Vanessa.
She got into the gig.
If she got into the gig if she got into the gig
that would be
Miss Vanessa
Miss Vanessa
Little Mermaid 4
Miss Vanessa got into the gig
it's a front runner for title event
Little Mermaid 4
Miss Vanessa
got into the gig
you know what
enough with this
chatter
enough with
enough with the preamble
yeah i agree
okay
what is this
the constitution
what is this
the constitution
because it sure is long
the declaration
of independence
uh
did thomas jefferson
write this
because it's long
this is um i think we're in peak pendants. Did Thomas Jefferson write this? Because it's long.
This is I think we're
in peak drag race season.
We're not going to exclusively talk about drag race,
but I think we're fresh off of the end
of UK2.
We're in the middle of
13. We've still got many episodes left.
At least 45.
We thought we need
to get the experts in.
The experts. These are
the drag race
scholars. And
by that we mean
we talk about it often on our
group thread and are constantly
sort of, you know, dragging the
queens. Oh. As if
we know better. I think we
celebrate most. Mostly it's celebrating in the
drag is a celebration i would say absolutely let's just say here that we are not here to drag anybody
and if we are dragging anybody it's to celebrate it's good there's 100 is flying uh what's that song? That little mix song? Da-da-da-da, like confetti. And I said, we commented on the length. Oh my God, the hair is beautiful. You know, because one of the guests
has sort of iconically long hair.
But tell me that you don't think it's even longer this time.
I actually think it's even longer this time,
but I think it works.
And he says he's going to get it cut on April 6th.
I say, honey, push it back to April 14th
to commemorate the sinking of the Titanic.
Yes.
And he said that he would turn to his barber
and say, you know why I'm doing this?
To commemorate the sinking of the Titanic.
To commemorate the sinking of the Titanic.
109 years ago, she sank.
And that's why we're here.
And then you said that it's sort of in the air
that you might play the iceberg on SNL.
Yes! We'll see. Look out for that one. Look out for that one. And now the other guest, in the air that you might play the iceberg on SNL?
Yes! We'll see.
Look out for that one.
And now the other guest.
Talk about this guest.
This guest's hair is also doing something interesting and fascinating and new.
This guest has embodied the return
of the mullet in true
grace aplomb beauty.
I don't know a better mullet.
I have not seen a better mullet out there. I'm sorry, Sam Taggart.'t know a better mullet. I have not seen a better mullet out there.
I'm sorry, Sam Taggart.
No, a better mullet.
Oprah's amazing.
She's incredible.
Our guest's mullet is amazing.
These are two of the funniest.
These are two Oprahs.
These are the two Oprahs of my life.
Remember the movie The Two Popes?
That, but two Oprahs
and it's our guests.
And it's our guests. I am so thrilled they're here.
Mother. I'm so thrilled they're here.
These are two of the funniest queens
in the queendom.
Close sisters of ours.
And the queendom is very big.
Every queen needs a queendom.
Needs a queendom.
Barbs. That's a dogendom. Barb. Every queen.
That's a dog whistle for the Barbs.
Yeah, and this, of course, we should say now more than ever, this is a Barb podcast.
This is a Barb.
Bowen and I are Barbs.
Always has been, always will be.
Everyone, welcome into your ears.
Aaron Jackson and Josh
Sharp!
Ding dong! Ding dong!
Aaron and Josh arriving.
Arriving. Thank you.
What is the German
word for
waiting to be introduced on a
podcast and being frustrated
because you want to chime in?
Yeah, thank you. there must be a german
word for that i think it's what is it it's called it's called are we gonna get into bergheim or not
today thank you i was experiencing bergheim moments it was a bergheim you want you're
waiting to get it you're not sure if you can get in there that's what i gotta get in i got stuff
to say well what do you need when you need to get in so badly it's bergheiming it's like i'm bergheiming
yeah it's bergheiming i want to talk about um the the water world show at universal thank you for
bringing that up i almost brought that up in a different way i want to talk about when you're
going to be in new york specifically the dates where you're staying, you're social for the girls.
I just wanted to quickly say that Miami,
yes, Miami is out of control,
but that is what we want from Miami.
That is her gig.
If Miami were in control,
you would say check the pulse if she will.
Check the pulse.
Body snatchers.
Body snatchers.
If all of a sudden Miami was well,
we'd be like, who snatched their bodies down there? Oh, God. Someone has
replaced Miami with Albany.
Yeah, the famously
in-control city.
And another thing we have to talk about
is that to drag
us to love, okay? Just so that we
give ourselves permission.
Did you see all of a sudden I started crying?
Thank you.
Because for instance, I hate everyone I started crying? Thank you.
I hate everyone I'm talking to right now because I love everyone I'm talking to right now.
Yeah.
I want to say,
um,
when we start talking about the drag Queens,
every single one of the drag Queens is,
um,
good at drag.
Yeah. And I have never done it.
So,
so yes
I do those
grinder recaps and it's like
I hated this and everyone's like
fuck you and I'm like you're right
you're right
you're right
it is not worth getting into on the internet
if someone has anything to say it's so much easier to go
sure
totally
I should have said what you said if someone has anything to say it's so much easier to go sure yeah totally totally i should
have said what you said is this podcast incentivizing harm towards the drag community
yeah yes it is oh and i wanted to talk about um nimby what kind of game that would be i feel like
it would be sort of a pac-man thing where NIMBY had to eat things
and then NIMBY kept going really fast.
And it would be like kind of Sonic meets Pac-Man.
Meets Pac-Man.
Yes.
Yeah, right.
Maybe count things quick.
Yeah.
Can we talk about Ms. Pac-Man?
Yeah.
Yes.
What a fucking superstar.
Yeah.
Sex icon.
Sex icon.
Round queen.
Throw a bow on her head. Body positive queen. Round. Give her a beauty mark. Yeah. Sex icon. Sex icon. Round queen. Throw a bow on her head.
Body positive queen. Round.
Give her a beauty mark. Yes. And look,
when you think Ms. Pac-Man, I'm not talking about the
pixelated sprite. And I do. Trust that I do
think of Ms. Pac-Man every day.
I believe it.
Josh, let me ask you. When you think
of Ms. Pac-Man, are you thinking,
what are you picturing? Are you picturing
a beautiful flawless
ball kicking
up her damn heels
kind of glancing to the
side with her lashes out
and laid lips and blush
ooh those cheeks
damn here's what we're gonna do
cast her
this is a new segment called cast
her this is the debut of a
Las Cotterias segment, Cast Her.
It's where we name an iconic
female character who's never
been cast and we cast her. Aaron,
cast Ms. Pac-Man. Go.
Penelope Cruz.
Thank you.
Academy Award winner Penelope Cruz
as Ms. Pac-Man in Ms. Pac-Man in Ms. Pac-Man.
Ms. Pac-Man.
Josh, cast her.
Bernadette Peters playing it like she's 23.
Full sex from Bernadette Peters.
Tony Award winner Bernadette Peters is Ms. Pac-Man in Ms. Pac-Man the Musical.
Yeah, yeah.
Bowen. I have one. Go musical. Yeah, yeah. Bowen.
I have one.
Go.
Get a load of this.
Okay.
Florence Pugh shaving her damn head.
Oh, it's a drama.
It's a drama.
Academy Award nominee,
stars in Ms. Pac-Man,
bald as Ms. Pac-Man. bald as Ms. Pac-Man.
Directed by Greta Gerwig.
Yes.
She said, it jumps back and forth in time to tell Ms. Pac-Man's story.
You see her before she eats the fruit.
You jump to after she eats the fruit.
You jump back to before.
Okay.
Yes, I 100% clear.
Okay, ready?
Kevonjane Wallace is Ms. Pac-man in miss pac-man wow oh that's the most deconstructed
that's the most that's the simplest version miss pac-man is miss pac-man
kavanjane wallace is miss pac-man in miss pac-man it's a true essence of that role and that
portrayal because i can just see her i thought
she was so fabulous in beasts of the southern wild she really was um that i can see her taking
on a role as big as ms pac-man because you really need someone who can really take it on you know
now this this segment is actually not called cast her it's called cast rate
which means that you rate the castings now i think we have to rank
the castings yeah let's see who won this bit i this is a cast rate who won the bit another segment
a new segment on lost cult who won the bit i think oh my god i'm getting i'm getting i'm getting my
i'm getting the returns it's a four-way tie, bitch.
Equally fabulous.
That's never happened before.
Everyone's casting was so fabulous.
Well, do you think they'll do a Spider-Verse kind of thing
where it starts as whoever and then,
oh, and then here's this Ms. Pac-Man we never knew.
This is chaos magic, Wanda.
That makes you miss pac-man
two oh my god wait are you guys into this the the multiverse
no and i'm not i like nerdy stuff but i just got too exhausted by um the amount of content
i see and i had to i truly had to just put a hard
brick wall up and say
no more.
No more Marvel.
I would maybe still do an
X-Men just because it's
not in the Marvel.
I don't want Captain America
sweeping in. I guess he's dead.
I can't keep...
Spoiler alert, he did die.
Yeah. I am watching The dead. I don't... See, I can't keep... Spoiler alert, he did die.
I am watching The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and getting my absolute life.
Okay, wait, though. The best
thing to come from the Marvel
universe, and I mean, I loved
this, was when Gwyneth Paltrow
did not know she was in Spider-Man. Did you see that
clip? Oh, she routinely
forgets she was in the Avengers.
I keep saying it all the time whoever
it was was like we were in spider-man together she was like i wasn't inspired no she was like
and he said no we were remember this and she goes no i was in the avengers and he goes remember the
scene where the press conference uh-huh that was spider-man oh she recently like in the last couple
weeks go off in the last couple weeks she did an interview where they were like, would you ever want to do the Marvel stuff again?
And I think the poll quote was,
I'll do it again if they pay me a lot of money
and they can get the work down to one day.
What?
One day of work.
She wants to be a day player in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
But get paid more than ever.
It's so funny, too, because she is
good in them.
She shows up,
slays, leaves,
does not know the name of the movie.
That was Spider-Man?
That should now be our go-to
who's been corrected. If you're like,
it's on Friday, they're like, actually Thursday.
That was Spider-Man?
That's like you just learning you were wrong.
That was Spider-Man? Air like you just learning you were wrong okay air josh do you do you feel comfortable sharing not for lack of trying oh yes it's not i mean it's on the internet it's on the internet what are you talking about speaking of drag
charlene incarnate the drag queen um had a very funny darling yeah brooklyn darling a very funny Brooklyn Darling yeah Brooklyn Darling a very funny Twitter exchange
that I saw
where she was
she was getting
the vaccine
and so she said
wow I didn't get
the vid
meaning COVID
like
go me
go me
I didn't
go me
then some
follower
I don't know
who it was
tweeted at her
not for lack
of trying
and then she she tweeted back,
tea.
So Raj, that's become a thing for us.
That sometimes you'll be like,
whatever.
Yeah, I'm trying to get drinks.
Not for lack of trying.
And then you say, tea.
It's call and response
perfectly in conversation.
Wait, can I say something?
Not for lack of trying.
Tea.
Tea.
Tea.
I need to be with my sisters.
When are you going to be in New York?
When are you coming?
Are you comfortable sharing that on the air?
We can now reveal,
Bowen and I can actually now reveal,
Bowen and I have been booked for a fashion moment.
Okay?
Oh, wow.
There is a company that's trying to
dress us up, put us on a roof,
and take photos of us, like, tickling
each other and shit. They love to put
you on a roof. Okay, we'll come. Aaron and I will dress up, too.
Yeah, we'll come. You guys should take the pictures.
Yeah, we'll take the pictures. How do you work
this crazy thing?
I just want more money and one day of work,
and I'll do it.
Yes, yes.
But yeah, not for lack of trying tea.
We are literally
doing a fashion shoot and I'm
flying to New York to do it and we
can't reveal who it is yet, but let's just say...
How soon? How soon will this occur?
I'm flying out on Thursday.
How long are you going to be here?
Till Tuesday.
I'm going to be there for like four or five days.
We'll have to go out.
Girl.
We can watch a television program of Drag Race
and we can go to the backyard of a gay bar even.
Oh my God.
I'm so jealous.
Have you thought about that?
Why can't you go, Bowen?
What's going on with the Friday night?
I might be working.
Oh, you have work.
Why?
Where?
Are you shooting Nora?
Where do you work?
DoorDash?
What do you do now?
Oh, is it back?
Caviar, which is powered by DoorDash.
Okay.
But you know what?
It all goes back to somewhere.
It all goes back to the orca whale.
And the person that it goes back to
is Jesus Christ.
Christ.
Bob and Trixie did a pit stop.
So Trixie's hosting pit stop this season
and then Bob came on
during the Snatch Game episode for 13.
And they were talking, and then they both, both winners.
I'm not a Snatch Game.
Bob, on Snatch Game.
Winner and famous loser.
And famous loser from Snatch Game.
But Bob came on and was like,
the ultimate Snatch Game will be whoever comes in and goes,
I'm going to play Jesus Christ.
I saw that, and I totally Christ. That's so good.
I think that's a genius.
It is a genius idea. Genius.
And Rue would slurp it up with
a spoon. He'd be like, Jesus
Christ. So good to see you, sis.
And then Jesus would be like,
the body
of Christ.
And he would be like,
I guess you could say I'm hung jokes. the body of Christ. And it would be like, that's so good. And a lot of like,
I guess you could say I'm hung jokes.
Like a lot of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or fully play it like Aquaria.
Remember Aquaria on Easter posted,
heaven was boring.
So now I'm back at the gig.
Back at the gig.
I turn water into bubbly club soda drink.
Oh my God.
See, I like that.
I like that you incorporated the branding.
You incorporated the branding and that was funny. Oh my god. I like that. I like that you incorporated the branding. You incorporated the branding and that
was funny. And I laughed.
Oh, another thing you do at
some point, you just like pick up the Bible
and say, now available on iTunes.
And Rue would die.
That's genius, Aaron.
Genius. I gotta start
drag.
Aaron,
you gotta start drag. You. You gotta start drag.
You wouldn't have to put on a wig on with this big ol' mane.
Big ol', big ol', big ol' mane.
Air needs to go on drag race just to play... Air just needs to be
brought on just for the Snatch Game episode
to win as
Jesus Christ.
They should do Snatch Game Assassin.
Like they do Lip Sync Assassins.
This episode's Snatch Game Assassin.
An alt comic you've never heard of.
He comes in and he says,
I'm long and strong.
And they're like, what? He's not in drag.
And they're like, who says?
You're all born naked and
the rest is drag.
You would say, I am in
drag. And we would be like, you know what? You are.
I believe it
and I believed it
I did come up with a good entrance line
for whenever I do turn
to drag and go on drag race
I do know what my entrance line is
what is it go ahead and say it
it's this I go in and I say
okay we can start
that's good
Josh wrote a good one oh yeah i
wrote a good one for for kiko swore i i want kiko to come in and go i have to pee sitting down of
course i'm a woman wait what was the last part i'm a woman i'm a woman wait when is kiko getting
on drag race kiko is very like i don't know if I want to do it. She should!
She has to.
I think she's done the tape.
And do you know that the forms you have to fill out are like 900,000 pages?
Well, you've got to sign a lot of forms.
Yeah.
They were like, no.
After they did it once.
Yeah, T.
Not for lack of trying.
Not for lack of trying.
T.
Everyone should check out Kiko Suare. Yes, K. Not for lack of trying. Not for lack of trying. I mean, T. Everyone should check out
Kiko Suare.
Yes, Kiko Suare.
The best.
So shall we get into it?
Let's just talk about...
First of all,
let's get it out of the way.
UK ended the way it did.
UK ended.
I'm sure we're all
sort of disappointed.
I honestly, like...
I didn't even really care.
I disassociated immediately yeah i was like
oh great and she's lawrence is a great drag queen yeah it's like great lawrence is great also the
judging was wonky all season so this was just like a culmination of a wonky season also if you're
bimini you've won you've won you'd rather walk away bimini second place than lawrence first place
it kind of just to me like not that means anything, but it delegitimizes
the whole competition to me.
Where it's like, Bimini is as charming
and as skillful and as, like, versatile
of a competitor
as you're ever going to get on any
franchise of the show. And
if she can't win, then it's like, well, what hope
is there for the Simones of the world?
It all goes down to the, like,
are you Ruupaul's favorite
yes and that's the thing i love about the show that it's like it's just rupaul's favorite but
you do it was strange of the show to edit it as if it wasn't gonna i think they thought they were
making it more of a toss-up but it was like you could have made bimini look good which you did
while still making lawrence look good and you sort of decided in the back half of the season to be
like actually lawrence is really mean to everyone and she's struggling
and having a hard time.
Winner!
And I was like, wait,
you should have given her
a different edit
because she is good at drag.
She fully bombed
the last like three episodes.
Yeah.
Like it was like,
it was like as dominant
as she was
until the coronavirus break.
After they came back,
she was flop city USA.
High flop. Population Lawrence but josh is and this is
not a bit was a jenny lemon stan i was a jenny lemon stan talk about jenny lemon what does jenny
lemon mean to you she means to me she is um she's revolutionary when we talk about queens that have
i've broken the mold you know it's i mean come now mean, come now. Jenny would not be asked. It's like if Hedda Lattice was on America's Drag Race.
Jenny would not be asked to submit a tape
to the United States of America's Drag Race.
Like that is not a queen that should be allowed
in that universe.
And so I felt so blessed to have her in that universe
with her platform Crocs.
Crocs.
That her finale look was just the same as her other.
Yeah.
In a poly relationship. I elevate it by being here. I elevate as her other, like. Yeah. In a poly relationship.
I elevate it by being here.
I elevate it by just being here.
Yeah.
I do think it's funny that she literally just left the stage.
I love that.
Bye.
I love that.
And sister sister was left to turn it out.
As a wolf.
I know.
And that it wasn't even like a dramatic like even in that moment didn't do it
the way the show would want like didn't like
and I pulled myself instead
it was like the lip sync's happening
she walks off
Josh just for the viewers
at home
Josh left the frame
that really was funny I will
say
I don't think I understood one thing
that happened judging-wise all season.
It was to the point where I was like,
oh, I don't get this at all.
I think one time,
Ahura won the fashion,
and that was like,
that makes sense,
and that was kind of it.
Oh, Biminu winning Snatch Game
was like, yes.
Snatch Game.
But other than that,
I'd be like,
I don't really know
why you're in the bottom
why you're in the top i'm just go for it even the lip syncs you're like tia coffee staying like for
the third she's she's a lip sync she'll tia coffee will her legacy in this universe is that she's a
lip sync assassin i also love michelle visage acting like she just got back from like three
weeks abroad in uk and people be she'd be be like, that's really Brighton actually. That's exactly what Brighton's like.
That's so panto.
Oh, that's so panto.
Yeah, that's so panto.
I could not handle her.
Wait, can we say,
one of the biggest critics
of Michelle Visage is Erin.
Erin?
Oh yeah,
but I also would not have it any other way,
but like every time she talks,
I'm like,
wrong.
No.
I very, like almost always disagree with michelle visage i mean you you i think she has ruined the u.s franchise like i think all of them
now are like robots trying to do what because rue doesn't care yeah and michelle's like you need a
corset pad and it's like no you don't like but you do for corset pad. And it's like, no, you don't. But you do for Michelle.
Which is, again, why I like a Jenny Lemon.
Like, when the queen gets on that clearly is not trying to do the rubric.
Again, why I'm still hashtag Tina.
It's like queens who are like, I'm not trying to be good.
Justice for Tina.
We're full Tina Burner apologists.
And have been.
Have been.
But I like when a queen's on who's like, i am not a queen who is doing drag because of drag
race like i am a drag right i'm a drag they're kind of like how'd i get here yeah i love it
not to not to bring it to american okay yeah we're done we're done with uk we loved it i think
bing bing bong we can be fluid bing bing bong was one of the best episodes of the whole
any top three episodes bing bing b, as we've already stated, was that
plus fucking H&M, plus
Sister Sister's New Teeth. Like, each of those moments
would have made top episodes.
I don't want to see any fucking H&M.
That was so good. And bringing back
the girls that had left.
It was a bring back. It was a shut up
and drive kind of moment.
Right, that's right. Or you mean like they brought
back Joe Black? Yeah.
Like when they brought back Tatiana and, you know, it's like one of those things where
it's like, oh, all the old girls are back and now they're fighting to come back in.
They brought them all back after their two weeks of quarantine and then said, vote on
the one that stays.
And the others had a full Gwyneth Paltrow one day of work and then they're sent home.
And Veronica Mars.
That was a tea.
Veronica Mars.
Knock her like I'm trying.
Knock her like I'm trying.
Veronica.
Oh, wait.
Veronica Mars. The fact that you keep calling her Veronica Mars
I won't learn
wait Bowen you said in the group chat
that there was a moment of UK that made you cry
what was it
it was when it was in the finale
when the final number and then you saw
all of the old queens come out
and do the same
because that was emotional for me too.
And I thought that must be where Bowen cried.
I loved it.
I didn't cry.
I just got chills and I got emotional,
but I like that.
Yeah,
honey,
maybe I got my shot just hours before.
Yeah.
Not for lack of trying.
T.
But the,
the,
okay.
But the thing with Tina is Tina was on the show to be to try to fulfill
to try to be a queen that like michelle michelle would like she did not do that i don't think tina
did the genie the genie lemon no but tina has been doing drag before michelle michelle was born
yeah before michelle was born so that's why i like tina is like she is an old horse that has been doing drag for 900 years.
Do you know Tina?
Not personally, but I've seen her.
I don't even know how many times I've seen her.
Because Barracuda used to be our post-UCB haunt, I feel like I've walked in on more, like so many Tina Burner shows.
I've probably seen her 20 times easy.
It was kind of that thing where it was like Tina felt like she'd never be on because she had never been on.
Right, right, right.
And I think not for lack of trying.
T.
T.
But I am happy that she was on.
I guess I just wish that it felt like she was doing Tina Burner more
instead of Tina Burner trying to put together a brand to work on Drag Race.
Because I don't think her brand is red, yellow, and orange.
No.
Is it?
I don't think so either.
Also, I do think Drag Race is a specific skill.
That is not necessarily...
I happen to have that skill, but not everyone does.
But I think there are really good drag queens.
Brita Filter
another example hated by the
fans and is so good at drag
literally amazing
and she's fucking but it's like oh maybe
you're not amazing at drag race
so I think Tina really
turned out was not the best
and people hate her
people hate her like she's Roxy
Andrews like curb stomping I don't get that I just hate her like she's Roxy Andrews curb stomping jakes.
I don't get that.
I just don't think she's a good contestant
and when she was eliminated I was like,
yeah, but I do fucking love her
as a drag queen.
There's no need to direct to hate at Tina.
People online are like,
kill yourself.
Of course they are.
But even before the season started,
everyone's like,
you're Sherry Pie. And then she'd come out and be like,
I know I remind you of Sherry Pie, but I swear to God I have not sexually assaulted anybody.
I swear to God.
When people are like, I'm getting big,
Sherry Pie. What are you talking about?
What does that mean?
Sherry Pie was edited off the show.
You don't even know what she's like.
You know what's one thing I'm observing
about the New York Queens, especially?
I think that the New York Queens-
You mean me and Aaron or the drag girls?
Yeah, you girls.
Everybody.
I'm discussing the drag queens in this sentence
or with this thought.
But I feel like they arrive in such hordes
on any given season.
And they all do say like, I'm from New York, baby.
And people that are from other cities,
like the LA fags that I'm friends with are like,
oh, I hate when the New York Queens come in
and they're just like, I'm from New York.
What is that?
It's not specific.
And I'm like, well, the thing you have to remember
about New York Queens
is they literally are good at everything and
they're they're performing five times a week six times a week and so it's like just like over an
hour holding the mic no one else it's not like this is a show with nine girls it's like it's
just me bitch i'm fucking doing drag when people have a criticism about them being like i'm from
new york it means we're versatile and we do everything we're performers and it feels like
non-specific i'm like so what you're essentially saying in earnest is
you would rather a queen come on and say i'm a makeup girl so you can categorize her and they're
better at drag race meanwhile it's like i'm sorry but you put fucking miss fame on a stage like i
don't want to sit there for an hour and a half. She doesn't want to. I'll watch her flop around that stage. I'll watch her flop
around that stage for an hour and a half.
Literally, Stephanie's child, gag
me. Gaggers.
Gaggarami. She is an aspect of
New York Queens really having been
gagatron tra.
Not my parents right now.
That's my quote of the season.
Not my parents right now.
With her asshole out
being like not my parents
right now she's messy
she's messy oh yeah that's when they were saying
like Utica you're different when the cameras are on and off
and Tina was like like me
Utica like what you see is what you get
and then they're all laughing and Nick goes
yeah you're messy
yeah she's messy
I'm obsessed with got Mick I'm obsessed with Gottmik.
I'm obsessed with Gottmik.
I love Gottmik.
Obviously, Simone is the winner,
but I think if Gottmik were to win,
I would be happy.
Everyone would be happy.
We would suck and fuck in the streets.
We'd be so happy.
How just funny and charming Gottmik is, too,
and that Gottmik is a full tw and that like got mick is that a
full like twink that would trip over you at 3 a.m and then puke on the floor at the nightclub
is like so fierce like that type it's great it's great also he's looking hot like in the last
episode i was like did they like find out that like got mick is hot and like spend extra time
on his makeup like in the workroom because god was like popping like they find out that Gottmik is hot and spent extra time on his makeup in the workroom?
Because Gottmik was popping on camera.
Like out of drag makeup?
Out of drag.
I'm saying he was very...
All of a sudden, I was like,
maybe Gottmik is the trade of the season.
TBH.
And I've been saying it since minute two.
I've been like, it got in my wheelhouse.
But also, Simone, I think, is maybe trade of the season
in addition to being the trade of the season.
It's crazy
that simone is dominating all fields here something that again not to make fun of these queens are
also good but something that is so funny again people hate tina berners so much joey jay has
like hundreds of thousands of more followers yeah yeah joey jay did not one thing well they came on the as what charlene calls the cocksucker games
that's oh yeah another great charlene cocksucker games came on the cocksucker games and said my
brand is the gay one so which you have to respect honestly joey j being like well let me tell you
something about me i'm gay as fuck yes the queen's being like, well, let me tell you something about me. I'm gay as fuck.
Yeah.
The queen's being like,
yeah,
we're all straight.
We're all fucking their penises.
Oh yeah.
It's aware.
I think Joey J is saying that so awarely stupid.
Yeah.
In such an awarely stupid way.
Like Joey J leaving,
getting eliminated and saying,
I'm Joey J.
I'm a gay ass bitch.
Like you are incredible.
And she's saying filler queen. I'm a gay ass bitch like you are incredible and just saying filler queen i'm
a gay i'm joey j it's either fully sentient or a time traveler that just like came right from the
2012 td bank float at pride and yeah jumped right to here okay so before his lip sync he was like
i don't honestly what i'm gonna do is be gay as hell
yeah not like all these butch mask queers yeah yeah missing queen but
this really speaks to i am loving this season actually because like basically everyone
has i've loved and again even these ones who don't do it for me i had a great time with them
i celebrate them each on their way out and yet the discourse is yeah people don't like that that uk was that uk was better
than 13 and that 13 is bad because it because it's dragging on too long but it's too long and
i don't think it is too long i'm having fun it would be too long if it were a covid special was
the like put this out only that only that i
also think it's fun that's long again we are still in quarantine not for lack of trying miami
but i think that people are um responding to like again what we're talking about like the
genuine like the authenticness of the uk and this is that like like US has just gotten a little bit
more like paint by numbers I think is what
people are maybe trying to do
but I also love it
everyone I'm around is like
UK is so much better than US and I just hold my
tongue because I don't want to get into it
but it's so objectively wrong
and no my tongue is so
loose now that I'm on sorry but
our podcast I'll be real
and i'll be real and i'll say this uk is not as good as us it's not it's like charming in a way
that reminds us of the old seasons of us and it's also good but you cannot tell me that there was a
single episode of uk besides the big bang bong Bang Bong. Bing Bang Bong and the Snatch Game.
I also giggled throughout.
But it is not a better season than what US is having.
It's not.
I will say if you pulled,
if you plucked like Bimini and Ahura
and put them into 13,
they would be fantastic competitors though.
It's not about...
Yeah, I would agree.
I'm judging UK quality-wise on
it just being so confusing and confounding.
Yeah.
I think UK 1 better than UK 2.
And I think UK 2 and 13 are sort of on equal-ish footing to me
because I'm having fun watching them both because they're so different.
But I agree with you, Raj.
If someone is fiercely like UK 2 is better, I'm like, you're off it.
13 is fun.
You're off it.
Meanwhile, UK 2 had a funner a more a
funner group of queens than just slightly than one i'm fine one you had bagga and divina and like
like everyone after like everyone after cheryl hole you're like i don't really care but like
first for uk2 in terms of like oh i loved i loved them. I loved even like something long. I love blue.
I sort of like everybody.
I even like vinegar. I'm a little bisexual that went home after an episode.
Everybody.
Scary cat.
Scary cat.
I was like, you are the perfect sec episode out queen.
Like, what are you?
Ukulele playing your girlfriend put you in drag.
I'm like, yes, you should be here for 90 minutes.
Gothi Kendall.
Oh, Gothi.
I mean, Rue still does like gothy kindle it's a lot
of weirdly iconic exits yeah i love one my favorite thing that rue has latched on to and keeps doing
is the blur st claire being cold and then oh yeah like oh my god
it's a secret when bo was talking about snatching them and putting them on 13 i
want to say something that i did say on the thread which is i one can't wait for all stars to finally
go international but specifically because i want bag of chips to be in there being like
and then cut to kennedy and confessional fully going like i don't know what that woman said
their narrative is like i we don't speak the same language we don't know what that woman said. It's totally being like their narrative. It's like, we don't
speak the same language. We don't understand.
Which is what Thailand and
Holland are in some way. Not Holland,
but Thailand. It's like, no one's speaking the same
language in Thailand. I know. Thailand's
crazy. They're like, literally.
This is an international drag race. I'm just calling it
Thailand. I couldn't get through it because
it really was too crazy for me.
It's a different show entirely.
It's a lot more Project Runway.
It's a lot more look.
Yeah.
They had to build an outfit every time.
And for different reasons, that was another one that the judging didn't make sense to me.
Because I realized I was like, oh, this is either both a completely different show.
And there's cultural references here that are lost on me.
So sometimes they come out in something and I'm like, this looks like bad. So sometimes they're like, they come out in something that I'm like,
this looks like bad drag.
And they're like,
you nailed that thing.
And I'm like,
okay.
Yeah.
Very panto.
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Did you guys hear about this Drag Race Down Under controversy?
No.
What controversy?
I know nothing.
Karen from Finance.
Huge deal in Australia.
Yeah.
Her name is Karen from Finance.
It's a great name.
Yes, great name but like has this like tattoo um that is basically like full-on like
it there's it's just like it's just like a minstrel basically um and is it it's you mean
like trying to find it it's like a like essentially someone in blackface it's someone in blackface um
here i'm looking it up um oh god but is it like not
to defend it's like is this an australian character or something like this is no it's like
it's well maybe it is it's just okay karen from finance with her it's a gollywog doll which i
don't which maybe is an australian thing but it is like no but it is just thing it is a racist
symbol and like so
now karen i don't i don't know i haven't like i'm sure she's the winner oh karen and they have to
sherry pie her out sherry pie her out but it's like oh see like i don't know i don't know what
this does for for the show going i, maybe it's another season 12 situation.
Honestly, I think another reason why I'm enjoying 13 so much
is because A, it is standing
on its own merits. It's a very good season.
The queens are really good. And I always think you can kind of judge
how good the season is by literally when we
get to this point. Like, now
we have six left and all six of them
I really like. And
to be honest with you like well
when i try to think about who's going to be the top four well wait am i lying who don't utica
and olivia oh but i don't i don't dislike utica i don't no i'm starting to ever since this lip sync
she's done this twice she did this with um elliot where um utica shantae you stay yes yeah stop it like she won like she won it fucking um like an arcade damn
arcade damn arcade she went to the damn espn zone and slayed the gig and at the same time her friend
just got fired catch catch her in time square what's that thing what are you where do you go
oh utica is Dave and Buster's
energy. And meanwhile, Tina and Elliot
drowned in the damn ball pit to death.
While she cheered.
Elliot with two Ts?
You know what's funny? I'm Matt with two Ts.
That's so funny.
That's so funny. That's really funny.
Not for lack of trying, Matt.
Two Ts. Two Ts. Two Ts. so funny that's really wow not for lack of trying matt two t's t t two t's t t t matt your entrance
line should be like i'm matt with two t's just like elliot with two t's my favorite queen of all
time okay i'm writing that down wait can you say that again slow yeah okay wait no what i was saying
is um i think that season 11 was so fucking bad
and season 12 had the sherry pie of it all,
which kind of like was a constant distraction.
So season 13 is like the first like season
in the clear that we have.
And I also think that it has been fun during quarantine.
And a lot of the queens have stepped their pussy up
this season as again, like the US show demands now.
It's like we've seen some fucking wild runways
yeah this season is very fun because that's another thing i don't like about michelle
visage but everyone spends 300 million dollars on their clothes and and like there's no like
guts into worse debt than nyu students but paying diego montoya to make a beat a hand-beated gown
there have been some truly and this is what I love
about the show some truly
wretched runways too
as well as good ones
like Miss La La Rae
La La Rae with the bag
Elia as the flamingo
Tina every week
Candy as the green alien
that was so bad
I'm obsessed we were screaming at the TV Candy as a green alien. That was so bad. So bad.
I'm obsessed.
I love it.
We were screaming at the TV.
It was really funny to watch her just like really try to serve the look.
I love that though.
Cause some of these girls who are like,
it's a full sleigh mama.
And it's just like boring drag.
I don't care.
I would rather have rotted and gutted full garbage that I can like laugh at.
But the thing with candy is half
the time i think she's a literally stunning runway queen and then the other half she's great i'm like
huh like how is this the same young girl i love the and boy candy trade too boy candy's cute
candy is cute candy just has a beautiful face yeah star and she can star quality candy producer muse big time did she really did
she change her twitter name to that yeah candy producer muse and apparently tweets all the time
just like some of y'all wanted candy to go home minute one and now here i am producing yeah oh
y'all hate candy too bad she's the star of the show and i love that i love that that's her mo
online it's just like already assuming
you hate her and then telling you she produces your show but moment of the season is i mean of
course the like um throwing teen under the bus no no the candy tamisha um oh yeah obviously but
specifically when after 19 minutes of a screaming fight candy muse of all people decides to de-escalate
and it's like,
I need to get out of here.
I'm going to hit someone.
And Tamisha goes,
oh,
I know you're not going to hit me little girl.
And gets in her face.
Then again,
Tamisha is escalating.
Tamisha is escalating.
She was great.
That was an incredible moment.
Oh,
I know you're not going to hit me.
Me little girl.
I said what I said.
It's perfect.
It's been a fun season.
As if Nini Leakes never had. Just like Tamisha being like, I said what I said it's personal saying it as if NeNe Leakes never had
just like
Tamisha being like
I said what I said
like she had found
a catchphrase for herself
it's like
girl this is a very
famous
if in that moment
someone had said
ooh NeNe Leakes
she would have said
no
me
Tamisha
I clipped my heels
three times
to get home from Oz
that's her
little girl little girl I mean get home from Oz. That's her. Little girl.
Little girl.
I mean, little girl is Oz,
and she fully fucking took it for herself when I met her.
And we love it.
She sure did.
I think people love to hate the current season.
That always happens.
But wait, is that a popular opinion
that people don't like this season?
And why?
I think I've seen people complain online.
I've seen people complain that it's a bad season, but only because they're mistaking quality for like they have to
fill in like they probably like found out two weeks before they went into production um drag
race celebrity it's secret celebrity edition is canceled we need to fill in these programming
we need we need three more episodes of regular drag race than we thought people seem to forget
every year that the skits are horrible.
Snatch Game is average.
I've been preaching that since
season 7.
Every year we do this cycle where people are like,
this Snatch Game wasn't that funny. Two of them were really funny
and the rest were okay or sort of awkward.
That's the point of it.
Someone said on Twitter,
has there ever been so much versatility
of highs and lows in drag race? I'm like, has there ever been so much versatility of like highs and lows in Drag Race?
I'm like, every single week.
I'm literally edited for
that. That is the point of what they have
served to you. Also, people just... Two and a half people
that are very good, three people that
are fine you'll never remember, and three
that are abysmal, and you
want to die watching it. And I actually thought
this was a pretty good snatch game, and the
fact that we were fighting that there could have been
four people in the top.
Four were good.
That never happens.
Never.
Where you're like, I thought Simone should have been a...
Never are you like,
I can't believe this queen was safe at Snatch Game.
You're like, well, she got lucky.
Can we also use this platform to say,
because I'm not always a part of the internet conversation,
but I know your listeners are,
and I want to talk to them right now.
Y'all gotta stop
taking the edit whole hog like that's the only thing you just you serve up exactly what they
want you to believe and then think it's truth sometimes when it's like think critically don't
just listen to the edit only because that much yeah these girls have wild opinions listen to
candy producer yes i thought got mixed commercial was great and they're like I didn't get it you know what I thought it was really funny
but which is really
all that should matter
they're not really selling soda
that's my thing it's like
when Ru was like I would want to drink that soda
it's like first of all bitch you shouldn't be
drinking soda at all
it rots your teeth and increases
your chance of dementia
darling so look in the mirror at all. You shouldn't be drinking soda at all. It rots your teeth and increases your chance of dementia, darling.
So look in the mirror.
Look in the mirror. Have a nice
cup of water. Have a big
cup of water or milk,
but not too much milk.
It's just funny that every other skit challenge
Rue famously is like, you can do anything.
Just make me laugh. Until the commercial
and then it's a full fifth grade essay and they're being
great. Like you didn't have your thesis statement in your intro paragraph also simone's which i
love i love simone's but simone's was like my soda will kill you and it was like i could not
wait to drink that soda it's like what are you talking about also to be like i love simone's
but i didn't see your brand there and it's's like Simone famously from episode one. I've said that girl likes sugar.
Her brand is love sugar.
Well,
cause then you had Carson being like,
I don't remember your logo.
It's like,
was that,
was it a logo?
Was it,
is it a design challenge?
Is it like,
what is this?
High school internship with a,
with your like dad,
who's a businessman.
Who's like,
like that is what they're graded on for this.
Or mom,
Josh. Thank you. Thank you. Or your dad. Who's a businessman who's like yeah like that is what they're graded on for this challenge or mom josh thank you mom thank you or your dad who's a mom can we talk can we talk about something
wait yeah the the commercials all happen yeah let's start talking about something hey let's
start um wait wait like so the bottom two was tina andica. Were those the two worst?
Because Olivia's brand was Liv.
Tina's was fine.
Tina's was good.
Again, here's what I'll say.
I know Tina's runways speak for themselves.
But Tina has been pretty good at every challenge.
They sort of dog walked her twice.
They put her in the bottom for one time,
stopping lip syncing a half second too early.
She was so good at that and they read her for filth
for no reason great she was and then this one they were like instantly like your brand is so clear
and we're noting you on that it was very strange i think that they were just i think what they were
saying without saying it was we're done with you exactly like like basically being like we we're
happy you were here you did well you can't do better or worse you won't and we're happy you were here. You did well. You can't do better or worse.
You won't.
And we're done with it.
And I genuinely think it was a thing of Rue being like,
Utica will be more fun to watch going forward.
And I think they sort of did the same thing last week.
And I wasn't like in love with Denali,
but I think they also were just sort of like,
time for Denali to go.
Denali was, and I say this with all the love in my heart,
really, really good,
but just kind of like a more boring contestant like it's been doing two years well i just think she was she was she you know
and this is why i was saying like i when when denali and rose were sort of a package deal there
for like four weeks i was like they need to separate because i know that rose can stand out
on her own whereas den Denali, it feels like
very good drag queen. Like, I really
loved a lot of what she did. I love watching her lip sync
performances, but it was like not exciting
to watch it narratively. Did you know, Matt,
that she can ice skate? I
had heard that.
This goes to the Lawrence Chaney of it all, though, which is that
I hope these girls know it in their hearts and they can't
always say it. It's like, you don't have to win
to win. Like, if you're Denali,
who's done drag for damn two years,
you've won.
You did a great job.
You have fans.
You looked fierce.
You had an iconic lip sync.
You've won.
Even Tina being like,
I didn't want to go out early.
It's like,
girl,
you've been on for two and a half months.
There's only four people left or something.
Denali.
I don't think,
I don't necessarily think she was served or not served by being on the show
longer.
We all know she's very good. Shit. Once things things open back up denali is going to be performing the house
fucking down like and i will have michael's style like seeing her yeah absolutely yeah i don't think
she needed to be on the show to more to convince us to watch her perform i'll watch her perform
one other funny judging thing i wanted to say in regards to Tina Burner this week. Tina actually had a good runway, I thought,
with that, like, teddy bear, uh,
like... It was the makeup that was busted,
but yeah. Yeah, yeah. But the, and then, um,
Simone, Simone wore
this top. Busted! Simone wore
a fox, and the judges went,
eh, Tina was sort of serving us
the camp version of this, and Simone
was serving us fashion. It was like, bitch,
Simone looked like a Times Square.
No, can I say something?
The Simone look was stupid.
It was a furry costume on Amazon.com.
And it should not be bottom,
but you cannot proclaim it to be art.
It's just take her to Milan
and let her stomp the runway as this fox.
She was doing foxy.
She had the jewelry.
She had the big hoops.
I loved it.
There was a story.
Agreed.
I don't think it was bad,
but for them to be like,
Tina's was camp while Simone's was fashion.
It was like, it was not.
She was a fox with tits.
She was like,
I might be in a fox costume,
but I'm wearing heels it's like
well that's good yeah so would that sexy fox you are just you're being wrong i really liked it i'm
not even saying it was bad i'm just saying the judge that was so funny to me sure this cunt could
fly straight to milan and stomp like truly naomi Campbell Fox. She looks like a slut
from the video game.
They had two full-time
square performers
in front of them
and they were like,
yours is a disgrace
and yours is fashion week.
Laura Croft,
like Laura Croft's
fucking aunt.
Laura Croft.
Laura Croft.
Laura Croft.
Laura Croft.
I do, these are two things,
these are a few things that I want to point out about this episode,
just in terms of the judging,
because yes, we're laughing at how the judges are fucking idiots,
but the Rosé thing, the Rosé commercial was,
and we love Rosé in this house,
not a good commercial,
because she is trying to be like,
I'm trying to break away from my perfectionist narrative,
and then the whole thing is to be like, I'm trying to break away from my perfectionist narrative. And then the whole thing is her being knowingly perfect or a perfectionist.
There's no like, that's not removed enough.
She was not unbridled because she held a face for like 20 seconds.
Mixed version of that is a richer joke to me.
I agree.
That is a better joke
of like,
but now I'm sexy
even though it's the same.
It's like,
that's funnier to me.
They really were trying
to do the same thing
and I think that they
liked Rosé's a little bit more
because it was clearer to them
but I actually think
it was over explained
and maybe that's just
the thing.
Like in this Zoom,
we appreciate the sort of
more abstract thing
that Gott mick was
doing in this zoom house honey one was bell house one was creek and cave you know yeah not for like
a trying tea not for like a trying tea but but my thing is just like i i do think that rose
won the challenge because the runway was so good because this was a shocking runway it was so
fucking good and then i just want to say the olivia thing has always confounded me all season
because the judging has been at all wow she's got such star quality aka she has a gigantic mouth so
she can smile but then it's but now but then now it's like it's taking them like nine episodes for
them to be like oh but wait her drag is like not that great.
But also I learned,
and I feel bad for her,
people are hating her online too.
Like they're turning on her.
Yeah,
but they started out being obsessed with her.
I know,
but now that she's like sent Denali home and been around too long,
like they're like,
I went to one of her posts and it's worse than Tina.
It's like,
everybody is like,
you sent home Denali,
like kill yourself,
kill yourself,
kill yourself.
Oh,
that's insane.
If it's worse than Tina, you, you, you sent home Denali, like, kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself. Oh, that's insane. If it's worse than Tina, you blew out the bottom.
I'm sure it's taking on an ugly angle, too.
I hate that.
You blew out your damn bottom.
But then, are people turning on Utica now, too?
Because I've been like this.
No.
Day one, we've been like, the radical positivity on this one is a little too much.
Jester flop clown buffoon.
Jester flop.
Jester flop buffoonery when she did that bob ross with the squirrel wig that was jester queen flop buffoonery in the town square
fling tomatoes at the queen the flop is the jester her her story episode one about being allergic to
strawberries josh made me laugh and the group chat josh is like yeah um i'm wearing this giant
fruit on my head because i have this allergy to a food that you can very easily avoid like why is
that that was your trauma like imagine that would sense your trauma like if i was like my trauma is that
actually i'll die if i ever have cyanide it'd be like well don't have it like that's not hard
to avoid also what i thought they should have done was they should have had her going up against
tamisha tamisha being like i just came back from cancer i'm wearing a class oh my god like
and a strawberry would be like i'm wearing a strawberry to take back strawberries because i
once had a bad cough when I
ate one. Yeah. I mean, the
sleeping bag was full of fashion. That was like
the best. Look, that was incredible.
That was so good. Incredible runway.
Half the time, I think she's one of
the best. And honestly, like on
any given day, I think she'll be top four.
I actually am waffling
at this point between whether I think Candy
or Utica is going to occupy that fourth spot
Because I'm pretty sure the top three is
Simone, Rosé, and God
Real quick since we ripped Utica
Because Aaron and I were talking about this
We have to remember for context
As we rip her for Bob Ross which was insane
And then for like the Afro's Appropriative
This was June of last year
And white people had psychosis
That is what you're seeing
Is Utica in June of last year Or white people had psychosis that is what you're seeing is utica in june or july
something right you know what it was like july august yeah you're right this was when every
white person you know was like desperately trying to buy a like pay like who has a copy of new jim
crow right yeah that is the and i'm not i'm just giving context for it because i think we know because of course
it's an appropriation to go swimming against black people i've forgotten but that you know like we
then were all utica yeah yeah utica um she was a scared she was a scared little jester
and the thing that she was a scared little jester flop jester flop and i would love to have utica
go swimming with us in the ocean this summer i would like to formally invite her yes utica is invited don't you think utica like
has been or will be in cats like she gives me that energy like she's like good good in the show
cat she'll be great in the show cat she i'm gonna put in a call i'm gonna put in a call for john m
chu to lauren and john m chu to have her be a damn flying monkey
in the Wicked movie. Darling
dearest. She'd be an amazing monkey.
Darling. Utica queen
with musical guest
Waxahachie.
I'm so excited to be here.
Waxahachie is here.
That's good. That's a good Utica.
Waxahachie is here.
I actually don't go swimming because i find
i find that water is very cold so i don't like to go swimming um and i kind of just like to stay on
land it's radical innocence actually now that matt's doing a really good impression or not
innocence but it's like it's like oh you're just you you're just not um um worldly which i know is
like a stupid virtue but like i'm like no stuff read a book I know is like a stupid virtue
but I'm like no stuff, read a book
you know?
I think that what
really bothered me was when Simone
was like this is what I want to do for my makeover
and she was like I don't think I want to do that
because I'm scared
I was like well Simone
if what you are saying
is you'd like to respect this,
then do what she's saying.
Like, the Black Queen is telling you what she wants to do,
and you obviously know she's extraordinarily talented.
Like, she's not going to make you look stupid or, like, a racist.
Like, just trust her.
You just saw the light leave Rue's eyes when...
I know.
When Utica said
the Bob Ross thing was going to be a
afro squirrel head.
You saw Rue just like
die a little bit. Do you think
Rue will say to Karen from
Finance, as long as your tattoo
was done with love, then it's fine?
Hey, you know what? If you do it with love,
then I think it's okay. Because you
know what? It's about intention. It really is. And you know what? If you do it with love, then I think it's okay. Because you know what? It's about intention.
It really is.
And you know what?
I think you're amazing.
I think that you're a superstar, baby.
And you're a star.
And you know what?
You're going to go out there and cover up your whole body but show the tattoo.
Because you know what?
You're a star.
Before you show it to me, which I want you to do on air, before I see it for the first time,
that tattoo, better make me laugh. You know what? Better make me laugh. Show that tattoo to make me laugh. Now, how are want you to do on air, before I see it for the first time, that's it. Better make me laugh.
Tell that tattoo to make me laugh.
Now, how are you going to make it funny?
How are you going to make that tattoo funny?
Is the soda challenge, in which case it needs to sell.
Well, I have to get it.
I have to want to consume it personally.
And it needs to have a good logo and a name you can remember.
From can to can.
Everybody's got a sweet tooth.
Was actually good, though. Everybody's got a sweet tooth. Was actually good though.
Everybody's got a sweet tooth.
Again, I love Simone's soda and runway.
The judging.
I am just like, what?
It's just from can to can,
it went different.
From runway to runway,
they were like, this is camp.
This is action.
This is gutted.
No, this was so clearly the episode
where the producers were like,
hey, so we're looking
at the early edit and here are the queens that we actually like yeah you have to send teen home
olivia is actually not shaping up to be the kind of star y'all think she is right oh so we think
candy will make top four that's my real question i think she might candy's been a lot more consistent
than people that have made the top four and i think if it's between you could get that fallen angel like katya vanessa vanji mateo spot that like the fallen
you know like but then who would be the force utica it's not olivia if it's if it's a sewing
challenge right at the end like the old days although of course it'll be right your own
fucking rap for the ninth time how many times you do you have to... UK too, when they had to come out again and rap, I was like,
look at these girls rap. Here I am again
again doing rap. I love
RuPaul, Slay, Mama, House Down, Boots,
Slap, Love, Drag.
This is why I wish Ginny Lemon had been top three,
because I bet a dollar Ginny Lemon would have done the
exact same verse as the other challenge.
She'd be like, I already wrote one, I'll do it again.
Ginny Lemon,
fanciest slice, here's my verse, I'm doing it twice. Killer on the streets and I'm wrote one. I'll do it again. Ginny Lemon, fanciest twice.
Here's my verse.
I'm doing it twice.
And I'm a queen.
Killer on the streets
and I'm really mean.
Keep my name again
and here I go
walking over here
and it's time for the show.
Yeah.
And then it's like
we are
doing drag
on the town.
The winner of the challenge
is whoever can like
have their verse
feed into the chorus. So,
you know, like, if, like, RuPaul's singing,
like, um,
to the moon! It's like, bring it to the runway!
I'm gonna rock it! When Shay did, or,
yeah, like, Shay did that, Aquaria did that,
like, but, like, it's like, for instance,
to the moon, it's like, I'm going on a rocket!
To the moon! Like, it's like,
it's so easy. To the moon! That is
paint-by-numbers now, absolutely. Yes. But, I mean, when they're good, gonna rock it to the moon like it's like it's so easy that is that is paint by numbers now
absolutely yes but i mean they when they're good they're so like i loved um bing bang bong but
then they just have to do it again and like read you wrote you is still do you think it's still
the gold the gold standard i think i think it is what is better i mean kitty girl is fun but it's
not as regent just their verses were so good on read you wrote you and then roxy's
which was again so good like like like you can't beat this it's exactly what you want
i'm here to make it clear i know you want me baby that's why you brought me here
was that bitch on season five i'm gonna make it right give me a so intelligent
we know it it's not worth finding but i wish we had those verses we all wrote there was a day i
feel like we just texted verses oh no no no and i really did voice memos they were good we did
voice we did voice memos but we also we also wrote them down um okay everyone i'm gonna i'm gonna
multitask for head of the other day i was really proud of i should have written it down bone are
you gonna look for them'm going to just scroll,
but I'm keyed in.
But I think also what
people always remark on is that
Detox's verse is,
you can't stand me? I don't blame you.
It's like, I'm not that good.
It's like,
I'm not saying I'm the best, but I
hate the worst.
If Rue's number one, I'm number two.
Very bag of chips finale.
Why should you win?
I don't know if I should.
Maybe one of the other girls.
But the D to the E to the T to the O to the whole bit.
I don't think.
I don't think.
I don't think.
Red wig and a silver dress.
I don't think.
I don't think.
Not for lack of trying, T.
Ultimately,
I think that it's been
an incredible season, but I do think
that it's not a
top six where I'm like,
it's anyone's game. It's like
obviously either Simone or Gaffney.
When has it been that?
It's sort of fun. This is the first season in a while that it's like,
there's a ringer and it's a Simone.
Season nine was sort of wild. To me, I think season nine was the best season in a while that it's like, there's a ringer and it's a Sloan. Season 9 was sort of wild where it was like, who is the winner?
Season 9 was the best season because
that top four, well...
I think season 9 was a slow burn. I don't think I saw
Peppermint winning, but between Shay
and Trinity, I was like, one of them will win.
And then for Sasha to come in and win was
crazy. And for her to deserve it
was wild. And Valentina was
a favorite to win in that season as well.
Right. Miss Congeniality. It's so deep. It's so deep. And Valentina was like a favorite to win in that season as well.
Miscongeniality.
It's so deep.
She's messing.
She's messing.
Gagatrandra.
Honestly.
Gagatrandra.
We should get Gottmik on.
We would love Gottmik.
Gottmik is welcome to come to the podcast and also go into the water
with us this summer
yeah you can swim
with us too God
you know who else
I'd like to invite
to swim in the water
with us
Lala Ri
I bet she would be
very glad to splash around
in the water
I'm gonna gag you
ready
I'm gonna gag you
Trondra
so Jared's movie
that's coming out
called Three Months
starring Troye Sivan
and Ellen Burstyn
and Lugas Jr shot in Atlanta and so then L the lala reason it shot in atlanta and i went down there
to visit slash be in a scene that has since been cut um oh sorry dear but i was but it took place
in a bar that was like drag queens performing and one of the queens that was there that i met was
lala re so lala re when you watch Three Months by Jared Frieda, writer
and director, know that Lala Ri
is just off screen in the scene
where they're at a drag bar and they're doing karaoke.
You're right. But your scene was cut
in that. My scene was cut because
it had nothing to do really with the movie.
Do you blame Lala?
Yeah, for sure.
I blame Lala's outfit with
the bags for retroactively
my scene being cut
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Alright, so I feel as though it might be time to sort of transition
into what we call on the podcast
I Don't Think So Honey.
Oh my god, did we talk about Drag Race the whole time?
We've been talking for an hour and 13 minutes
and the thing about the four of us
and I Don't Think So Honey is I know it will continue on
for another 45, so I feel we should
get into it
I have one I'm not
putting this thematic challenge on anybody
I have one that's about Drag Race
okay why don't you go first then
because then maybe it'll be inspiring
maybe it'll inspire me but maybe not
maybe it'll inspire me
but maybe not I agree with Aaron
great okay alright so
this is Bowen Yang's
I Don't Think So, Honey, and his time
starts now.
I don't think so, honey. These motherfucking
plexiglass dividers
on the judging panel.
It is security, safety,
theater. It's not doing anything.
They're all facing the same direction, so
their particles are going every which way.
They're not going to the side. They're not taking a 90-degree
turn when they come out your damn mouth.
It's security theater. This is not
the checkout line at Wegmans, bitch.
Take those dividers
down. You can space them out just
fine the way they are, but
they're testing. They're swabbing
their nostrils before they walk onto that stage
anyway for the rapid or for the
PCR. Who knows? But but if you know if there's
a testing regimen in place there's
no need for us the audience at home to be like oh
thank father doing it safely barely
by putting plexiglass up when they're all
unmasked I do not
stand for this I don't stand for this
in any franchise if they're going to keep it up as long
as COVID is prevalent in the world
then I think we should
riot at
every stage internationally
we organize, we mobilize, we
storm every soundstage
and that's one minute
wow
is that like Carson is like I refuse to get
tested and they're like oh god
divide herself
I will not get a test
well he's family well he's family so
and he doesn't want to get tested so we have to respect him you have to respect that i i do think
it's funny that because you know they're just walking up behind them and then like you know
kissing and hugging oh yeah honey you know they're licking and sucking and fucking and and eating
i heard that judge's table is a fucking orgy mana every year.
It's a fucking.
Oh, yeah.
Hot Carson and Ross action.
Honey, you know under that desk, it's hand stuff, honey.
Rue fingering Ross.
Ross fingering T.S. Madison.
Everybody's getting off.
Merle Ginsberg cunniling this thing, everybody.
When T.S. Madison said she was a fan of the whole Tudor dynasty,
I fell out of my chair and rolled down the street.
That was great.
I am a huge fan of the Tudor dynasty.
I am a huge fan of the whole Tudor dynasty.
Tudor dynasty.
Okay, yes.
Be a fan of that dynasty.
It was so funny with her blue hair she had.
Was that to Queen of Scots? Yes. To marry Queen of Scots. Yeah, that's so funny with her like blue hair she had i was like was that to uh queen of scotts to
yeah that's so funny wait to just briefly touch on the snatch game what did who were your standouts
i thought um simone simone mick was great um i also thought queen of scotts was great
and i thought um uh i did think denali was good. And you know what?
Not to bring it back to Tina,
but Tina as Richard Simmons was not-
Oh, that was funny.
That was good.
That was a flop for me.
No, it was funny.
It wasn't a flop.
It wasn't bottom.
A damn flop was Olivia being like,
I brought a pear.
And then people being like,
I'm going to take that and make a joke.
Like when people are stealing your props
and making better jokes,
that is,
that is,
that's a bad thing.
Also,
it was so shady to miss Tabitha.
What's her face for,
for Olivia.
Tabitha.
I don't know who that is.
Like,
I'm sorry to this man,
but I don't know that.
Sorry to this man.
I would not know.
She's fantastic.
She,
she,
she is a character that you can play,
but Olivia just didn't play her.
Like,
she's like,
she's,
she's like very,
like very male.
Like,
like there's,
there was a way for Olivia to have played her and Olivia did not rise to the her. She's like, she's like, very like, very mellow. Like there's, there was a way for Olivia
to have played her
and Olivia did not rise
to the challenge.
She brought fruit though.
She brought,
from craft.
And she packed it in.
No, no, no.
She brought it in.
It'd been in her suitcase
for six weeks.
I think Olivia's problem,
Olivia's problem
is the fact that like,
you can tell she only
just started really doing it
because there's not
really a brand.
You know what I mean?
That was what was so funny too.
And that makeover challenge when they were like,
your brand is elegance.
And the judges were like,
I thought your brand was that curly wig and the smile.
And she was like,
I didn't know talking about.
And you watched her go,
you watched her go,
huh?
Yeah,
no,
that is my brand.
She's like,
I guess I should wear that curly wig more.
You're right.
That's my brand.
Well,
whoever,
like it's not like we love that wig. could have been fucking tina berners wig
isn't her brand tiny purses it's just not her yeah right like the lizzo purse i remember that
week they had to carry big purses i didn't like that that was wretched oh i hated that i couldn't
believe they let coach come in and like dictate the gig and especially right now i
mean most of the product placement for these fucking faggots is like lube and damn absolute
vodka and they're like you think we were all buying coach purses three foot long coach purses
now it's 12 year old girls that watch it more than we do so they buy a three foot long coach
they're asking for it for christmas from their mothers i guess you're right or their fathers yes thank you yeah tea tea not for lack of trying dad's buying purses tea tea not for lack of trying
they should have made it a mini challenge like can you shut this purse up your ass you know
they should have made it a damn commercial that you bought ad space for and you showed when the
show wasn't on i wouldn't want to drink that purse. You shove it right up your ass.
I don't want to drink that purse.
I don't want to drink that purse.
Do you like the little purse thing?
If you're out there listening to this podcast
and you're 12 years old and you're a little girl,
you better be asking for a Coach Clutch for Christmas.
Yeah, mama. Put the Tamagotchi down.
Get yourself a bag, dear.
Tamas down.
Coach purse up.
Yeah, mama.
If it's up, then it's up.
Up, up, up, then it's up.
Fantastic.
We love Cardi B on this program.
Coach purses up, put them in the sky.
I'm loving myself.
Yeah, what's that a parody of?
Fucking loving myself.
That is, oh, middle fingers up.
Okay, there we go.
I'm bringing you back
to 2016,
the year of our Lord,
when Trump was
put an apple in my eye.
Trump,
precious one.
Precious one.
President Trump.
Precious one,
you're without.
You're without.
Trump is without.
Can we say that now,
finally?
Go say it.
Rule of culture number three.
Trump is without. Trump is without.
Precious one.
I'm going to say something right now.
He's going to motherfucking jail.
Honey.
And a jail on an island out at sea, babe.
Alone in a big stone spire, bitch.
Looking at crabs.
Your lips to God's ears.
And mama mother, I won't think another thought
of it i won't think another thought of him honey i have already talked to the prison administrators
and breakfast lunch and dinner mama is eating gruel honey no honey she'll be having gruel for
lunch gruel with a side of cheetos. Oh my God, that's so evil.
That's so evil.
If a correction officer came in and was like,
I have just the lunch for you.
Cheetos.
Cheetos.
And then gave a wink and turned on her heels and clacked, clacked, clacked right down the stone hallway.
And he's just a fat ass.
Yes.
Fat ass. And that CEO, a fat ass. Yes. Fat ass.
And that CEO, that
correctional officer? Was me.
Janet Yellen.
Janet Jackson.
Janet Jackson.
Janet Reno.
Oh, honey. The cast
of Reno 911.
Janet
Jetson. Jetson.
Jetson.
That was her name, right?
Janet Jetson.
I think so, right?
Oh, me oh my.
Is that the mom?
Jane, his wife.
Jane Jetson?
Jane, his wife.
His boy, Elroy.
Daughter, Judy.
Jane, his wife.
And then Astor the dog.
Listen to that vocal sound.
And Rosie the robot.
I love it.
I'm hot
hey Jan I'm coming for your gig
I do drag now
Jan Sport went to the Boston Conservatory
and started off
did she?
hello
um
Stephanie's child with me
with Air Jack
I'm just um what would my
what are they blue
pink purple and i'm
i'm piss color is piss but neon neon piss dear what you were saying here's what i'll say oh yeah
sorry my joke was good though really flintstones has what judsonons wants. Thank you for saying it.
We will never ever be like,
wait, is her name Wanda Flintstone?
It's all, you know, it's Wilma.
You know, it's Betty Rubble. But did you know that, and this I didn't know,
that it's just a rip off of the Honeymooners.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Okay.
And it's owned by Walmart.
Wow, I guess we know, I guess we know who's the fucking stupid idiot in the Zoom.
Flop.
Flop.
Aaron right now.
Jester flop.
Jester flop.
Fling the ripest tomatoes at the queen.
Hope they pop red when it hits her damn flop skull.
Because she's flopping in the square.
That Jester.
You are lucky because my soda is battled
tomato soda and that's the brand honey battled tomato battled tomato
battled tomato soda and i'd say is it a food or a vegetable i don't know
and then in my commercial i'd do the split i don't know Vowel tomato Yeah that's really good
Vowel tomato
What would be your soda Bo?
My soda?
You ready?
Yeah
If you have restless leg syndrome
Drink my soda
Charlie horse
Bubbles bitch
Charlie horse cock
It's for when you don't want to Drink my soda. Charlie horse bubbles, bitch. Charlie horse cock.
Charlie horse cock.
It's for when you don't want a Charlie horse.
Ooh, I love that. Honey, you know what my soda would be?
What?
My soda would be called,
hello, this is the damn Cheeto soda
for Trump in the jail.
Honey, if you're drinking this,
it means you are Trump up in the
damn dungeon tower
looking out of the bars, wishing you had
a long hair so someone could climb up and
save you, but you don't, Chido bitch.
And instead of a milk mustache, it'd be like
an orange mustache.
That's just about right.
Yeah. You want to know what
my soda would be? Yeah, I do.
My soda would be called Dr. Pepper
And it would be literally
Just like Dr. Pepper but with a queer twist
Like everything about the soda
Is a little bit more queer
Like it's a gay woman on the can
I love that
You think Pepper is straight?
Dr. Pepper is queer
Then meet Pepper
Dr. Pepper She queer. Pepper?
Dr. Pepper.
She's a gay woman, a PhD.
And you would do a lot of skits for your wife. It tastes just like the real thing.
It's like Diet Dr. Pepper, but it's Dr. Pepper.
She's a gay woman.
You do a lot of skits for your wife.
With an MD.
Ooh, I'm a straight woman.
I love to suck dick and cock.
Let me take a sip of Dr. Pepper.
Mmm, munch, munch on the bunch of crunch.
I'm a dyke now.
100% queen.
And then Ru would love it.
Ru would love it.
You know what?
I loved it.
Because you know what?
It was funny.
Because it was really funny.
And you're a star.
You are a star.
You are a superstar.
And don't let anyone tell you different.
And when you start believing it,
that's when everyone else believes it. And you believe it. And I believe it. And don't let anyone tell you different. And when you start believing it, that's when everyone else believes it.
And you believe it. And I believe it.
And because you believe it, I bought
Dr. Pepper. And I couldn't wait to drink that
Dr. Pepper. And I'll be drinking it tonight.
I'm drinking it tonight with my husband, George.
Who makes me laugh.
George makes me laugh. That's a really good
rue. That's a really good rue.
Who makes me laugh.
Alright, so I guess it's time for me
This is Matt Rogers I don't think so honey
Is yours gonna also be drag race things
I guess we'll see
His time starts now
I don't think so honey if your favorite song isn't
She Wolf
She Wolf is the best song
Darling this is no joke
This is lycanthropy
The process of becoming a wolf.
I listened to She-Wolf before in the car.
I couldn't fucking believe it's not number one every year.
The way it slaps.
Oh my God.
A domesticated girl.
That's what you ask of me.
Darling, this is no joke.
This is lycanthropy.
I'm not a domesticated girl.
I'm starting to feel a little abused
like a coffee machine in an office
because I'm feeling abused
from all you out there
disregarding Shakira's She-Wolf.
It is the number one song.
It is the first song that played
during the Super Bowl performance
of JLo Shakira.
It's iconography.
And you think,
and I'm talking to you,
the reader, and pointing.
You think that because it's about wolves,
it can't be a mainstream hit.
You think mainstream hits have to be about sex and love.
No, it can be about wolves.
Makes me want to say, oh, I do think so, honey.
And that's one minute.
I was listening to She-Wolf before in the car.
Really?
Were you?
Like I said earlier. And fuck
me. I gotta listen.
It's been a minute. We'll listen to it.
You gotta listen.
Not for lack of trying. I'll do a close listen.
There are parts where Shakira
just goes, and it's very
lazy. And the fact that
it's lazy gives me life.
So you'll see
what I did there was I didn't do a drag race thing.
Okay.
No,
I respect it.
I really respect that.
I respect that.
I think mine will be not drag race.
I think.
Okay.
Okay.
Well,
I guess fuck my drag.
What's that from?
What's that?
And also,
who are you from?
What are we doing?
Damn. Kennedy doesn't get
the credit either
Kennedy does not
get the credit
final four
and then runner up
everyone always
Shangela was robbed
bitch Shangela got fourth
I mean
Kennedy was robbed
Kennedy was robbed
Bebe placed higher
than Miss Shangela
that's true
was Shangela
fourth place?
Fourth? She was first out in that round, right?
It was voting from the
girls, and she got the least amount of votes.
Wow, that's crazy.
Bibi got third.
And that's why.
And I'll say,
I think I said it at the time, I don't know if we talked about it,
I was Team Bibi the entire time.
Oh, we were all team BB.
The boys were very team BB.
And how funny would it be
if she was crowned twice?
The only queen
to be crowned twice. BB, bitch.
It was so good.
Much love to Trixie. Much love to Shangela.
Much love to Kennedy, the oft-forgotten
sister.
Truly all queens. And I hope that Much love to Kennedy, the oft-forgotten sister. Truly
all queens. And I hope that
they all know.
The all-born naked and the rest is
turned! Really quickly,
what's your favorite RuPaul song?
I like, um,
Sissy That Walk, I do.
I do love when that comes out. That's classic.
Put the bass in, yo.
Tina Girl, I'm prepared to reveal now on the pod
that I've been doing a lot of really big hit parodies of Bruce songs
about Tina Burner.
One of them is,
Tina Girl, put the burn in your walk.
Tina Burner walks and she talks.
My other parody is,
Bring back Tina.
Bring back Tina. Bring back tina bring back tina tina verna bring back
and also tina tina tina tina tina tina tina tina tina that's another one of my parodies
i have a lot of great parodies what about tina that walk yeah oh yeah tina that walk bow what's your favorite rupaul jam it's the this it's the
i guess it's the runway song for uk like uh
i'm like the beat the production on that is like fantastic i'm like great okay we love the word
this is the beginning
of Tina
Tina
I will say
every time
they do the finale
and I hear
if I dream
I'm always like
this is a very
emotional song
but and I do cry
at the
do do do
um
but uh
my favorite
Ru song outside of call me mother which is an important song for me and my sister because we I do cry at the... But my favorite Rue song,
outside of Call Me Mother,
which is an important song for me and my sister,
because we performed it often back in the day.
I would say that I fucking love the realness.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's just a vibe.
No, it's so good.
Gonna move into the house.
Gonna move into the house.
We're never going home
And I also love
This is the beginning of Tina's whole life
The second I hear
To the moon
I'm always like
Tina Burner
Tina Burner
Tina Burner
Tina's the beginning and the rest is drag
you're all born Tina
and the rest is drag
I hope Tina hears this
and enjoys it
the worst
we love you Tina
we do love
I love Tina Burner
I've seen Tina
1000 times
and I can't wait
to see her again
on Fire Island
this damn summer
I watched Tina
Tina for a while
co-hosted whatever
like Tuesday nights
with Busted at Barracuda.
Oh, yeah.
You love Busted.
Tina watching Busted and trying to do duo work with her and being like, what the fuck, girl?
Also, tell your story of Tina at Star Search when she was getting the...
Oh, this is actually the first time I think I ever went to Barracuda Star Search, which is like a drag contest, pageant, extravaganza contest that the winner wins $100.
But you have to be like pretty new at drag, I think, to enter.
It's not right.
Right.
So it's a lot of first timers.
But Tina has been at like 1.30 a.m. in the morning.
Like, God bless Tina Burner, herding cats to get them all on stage.
And so she's been hosting it
since I truly think 1991.
And she's not this old,
but she got on the mic
because the show was about to start
and she went,
all gender illusionists,
please report to the stage.
All gender illusionists,
please report to the stage.
See, but like,
where was that in the show?
I know, I know.
It's hard to do it.
I think she got nervous. I think she got really she got nervous I need to say and also when the judges
after like four weeks are like we kind of hate you
girl you're like okay well fuck
like it would be hard to be like I'm gonna have fun
anyway like it's easy for Simone when they're like
we want to blow your ass
off
but so she can have a good
time but it's hard
you're sort of a gutted troll
when she does good it's like like during this challenge where they had to make it over each
other and they were like you know it was bad but it was tina like that was the thing like she did
execute tina even though i know it was bad and i was like that's gotta sting and tina tina with
rose's makeup she looks pretty for once
I was like oh my god you people are so terrible
and let me be clear
Tina was very gutted on the runway
I'm not trying to be like
the handprints on her tits
it's the eye makeup for me
the black eye makeup
I'm like what is going on with that
but again you are right we have to remember
what are you going to do when they've already sort of said, like,
and you're not going to win, and she is.
Like, truly, episode two, Rue to Simone
was like, wow, you're my favorite.
Now, back to the show where I pick my favorite.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are we doing here?
Okay, wait, I have to say, the drag
that saw the RuPaul song I hate
was from season 13.
Drag is all over the world.
Drag is a phenomenon.
From Taipei to LA,
it's drag.
It just goes on and on.
I cannot stop singing.
Condragulations.
You're not a one.
Now I'm gonna tell you all the prizes.
You have won.
This album that Ru has done,
it's like, when it's Bring Back My Girls,
the lyrics are like,
she's going back to the workroom.
Man, it's not her night.
It's like all about the experience
of being on Drag Race every song.
So she's like,
Contragulations is from the perspective of RuPaul,
like in a musical being like,
but aren't a lot of these from the Vegas show?
Yeah, they're for Vegas.
They're for Vegas, which is a show about-
Listen, now that I'm thinking about it,
when Vanessa gets back up in the gig,
Condragulations could be a good number for her.
Huge.
That's very soon I'll have that little mermaid in the oven.
Wow, Vanessa.
Condragulations.
I'll have that little mermaid.
I was thinking about this.
Rue's running out of catchphrases. She's not even pulling from catchphrases anymore. She's pulling from
things that she procedurally
has to say on the show.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You won drag race.
Does she have a song that's like,
I think she already has a song that's like, hello, hello, hello.
She has songs.
Next year we're going to get Shantae, you stay.
That would be better.
Well, now she fully just says other girls catchphrases
when they're gone off the season.
So I hope she starts doing songs.
But I'm saying like in the songs.
Oh yeah.
That are just like, she's just like Ru doing like,
Miss Fancy, Miss Fancy.
Ru just doing other people's things.
I mean like she's, I mean, there's going to be a song
that's with extra special guests.
The song will be
O-Pit Crew.
O-Pit Crew.
Previously on Drag Race.
Hashtag Drag Race.
Oh yeah, hashtag Drag Race UK.
The song is
This week's mini challenge will be
getting up in quick drag.
Will be the whole song.
Yes.
We're playing the snatch game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game.
Okay, that's a bop.
That's a bop.
It is really a bop.
All right, we're moving forward with...
Josh said he was going to do one that was not Drag Race related.
I think I have one.
Okay.
This is Josh Sharps.
I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.
Honestly, right now, I don't think so, honey, cockroaches.
You know, it's getting warmer in New York.
They're coming out.
They're rolling back the boulder on the tomb.
You know, heaven was pouring out back in the gig.
You know what it's like to be in New York.
If you don't have a cockroach, you do.
You just ain't seen it.
And let me tell you what happened to me last week we're in the morning i was getting
out and i was going into the bathroom and i lifted up my toilet lid and then you know i have a tushy
and sitting on the nozzle of a tushy little miss cockroach no thank god i saw her but imagine if i
hadn't i was taking a pee imagine if i hadn't looked and I sat down to take a poo and then either the cockroach
like crawled around on me
and I screamed taking a poo
or I finished my poo
and the cockroach
and then I turned on the tushy
and it shot the cockroach
up into my ass
and it lived in my intestine.
15 seconds.
Rent free, mind you.
I'm done with cockroaches.
Mind you.
Stay in your homes.
Which is technically my home i
understand but don't come into my turf in my home stay in the walls you dirty little bitch
wow and that's one minute you're so stunning you're stunning beautiful that was true i think
all cockroaches are shook and they're not coming out this summer. They're shook, honey. No way.
You almost sat on a roach?
No, like it was on his bidet.
He almost launched one into his hole.
Yeah.
Oh my word. Not for lack of trying.
Not for lack of trying, T.
What I did do, thank God,
because she has the like nozzle wash
that shoots the water down.
When I saw him sitting there, I said,
I'm going to get you, motherfucker.
And truly like to cover the two feet from like my hand from here to like the switch i didn't like 10 minutes i
moved incrementally slow so it's not to startle him and then my hand was fully on the nozzle
and i turned it and little bugger got shot right into the toilet
mercy ain't miss god cutting up something
and then you were like Utica and you went,
yes!
While you watched your sister drown.
I actually kept the cockroach
because I think they're like cute little buggers.
And I actually, for someone like me,
I identify with them because they're both a little freaky.
I said, you'll be going for a swim,
but not with me and my sisters and Utica and Mick and La La Ria at the damn ocean.
Remember when Bendala
dressed as the fly? That was so good.
Yeah, Bendala Krem is one of the best
ever. That would have been great for the
beast couture
instead of
the fox.
No, the worst was Olivia
Loves with that Teletubby
with horns. Oh, I i know that was stupid and they
liked it no they did i i will i refuse i honestly i think olivia should have been bottom and i don't
think tina should have been using a bodysuit with an inflatable doll glued on her back yeah but at
least candy's commercial was funny when she lapped up that milk what was with all the milk on set
they had so much milk on set they had milk laying around and not one of them said my soda is cum
my soda is cum and ass
and I'm here and horny and I can't have either
so I drink this soda
and that's why I drink it
wait but the way I was laughing when
Utica was sucking the udders
I was like oh hers is gonna be so. I was like, oh, hers is going to be so funny.
I was laughing hysterical.
I was laughing hysterical.
I was laughing hysterical,
and then they put the commercial together,
and I was like, oh, forget it.
It's nothing.
I thought her soda was going to be cow udder milk.
And I was like, well, that'll be funny
because she's such an udder freak.
You'd a can.
You'd a can.
Just a lot.
I did like when it was like, the judges felt that you'd a can. You'd a can. You'd a can. It's a lot. It's a lot. I did like when it was like,
the judges felt that you'd a can do better.
Oh, God.
You think that's her best?
Dollar off.
Her best.
Dollar off a turkey leg.
Dollar off a turkey leg.
We were just doing.
Dollar off a turkey leg.
The judges weren't a tryptophan of your performance in the challenge.
I'm sorry, my dear.
And then it's like, Dollar Offa, tonight the judges wanted seconds.
Condragulations.
You're number one!
Dollar Offa Turkey Legs.
You, on the runway, you served roast beef.
But in the challenge, you were a roast beast.
Not so good, huh?
Pretty good. Not for lack of trying.
No one's going to be a Tripta fan.
I love it if Rue would say that.
Dollar off a turkey leg. Not so good, huh?
We give thanks for you this week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations on the winner of this challenge.
Dollar off. There you go.
I want to gnaw on your bone all night.
How did we come up with dollar
off a turkey leg i'll tell you why we were at six flags and we saw a sign that said dollar
off a turkey leg and we all said oh dollar off that's a drag name and then we spent an entire
day doing turkey and thanksgiving based puns to either send dollar off a home or save her put her
in the top or even make her. Or even make her safe.
Or even make her safe.
Or to crown her.
What kind of queen is she?
She's a fashion clown.
She's fashion clown? She's better than Violet
at fashion.
And she's funnier than Bob.
Funnier than Bob.
So she's like a Bimini.
Yeah, but Bimini could never. Bimini could never. And Bimini knows it. And Bimini yeah but Bimini could never
Bimini could never
and Bimini knows it
and Bimini would say
the same thing about
Dalarappa
Dalarappa is
league of her own
but sometimes
she gets in the bottom
because she's relatable
also
the implication
that
that I made
that Bimini is funnier
than Bob
is false
we love Bimini
but Bob is
but Dalarappa
is funnier than Bob
and Bob knows it Bob learned everything he knows from D Bimini, but Bob is, but Dollar Appa is funnier than Bob.
Yeah.
And Bob knows it.
Bob learned everything he knows from Dollar Appa.
Yeah.
Dollar Appa is many of these girls' drag mother.
A lot of them are from the house of Turkey Leg.
That's a really good house.
Really good house.
Cause there's,
cause there's,
you know, like,
Trigsy Turkey Leg.
Miss Trigsy Turkey Leg. Miss Trixie Turkey Leg.
Kennedy Davenport Turkey Leg.
Miss Jumbo Turkey Leg.
Oh, yeah, Jumbo.
Jumbo.
Oh, yeah, Jumbo.
I should remember her.
All right, let's do Aaron Jackson's
I Don't Think So, Honey.
Before we start, I want to say this one really might...
This could change the entire world as we see it.
Oh my God.
That's awesome.
We love to set a bar.
Okay.
Oh my God.
This is Aaron Jackson's I Don't Think So, Honey.
His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
The US currency pennies and single dollar bills.
Change the world. Change the world. Change the world change the world change the world honey we could round everything up to five and have a lot less pennies rolling
around change things in my changing the world think about this you could get rid of and think
of all change that world why is something 99 cents does it not just drive you
bats don't you ever 30 seconds to change the world don't you ever think if this was just five
the math would be simpler now i'm sitting here saying 98 i'm having to get my fingers out do the
minus and the plus or round up to fives and tens well hey, hey, baby, let's just do that.
And I'm not one of those people
that likes all plastic money.
I like a hard dollar a cent.
I like the JFK.
Five seconds, change the world, queen.
The 50 cent hat dollar.
I gotta get rid of these things, everyone.
And that's one minute.
I thank you, my sister.
That the world has been changed for the better
what's incredible right now is that the world has changed for us but we're ahead of time from
the listener they will not have their world changed until they hear this so exciting to
know it's probably how they felt when they filmed when they filmed forrest gump you know what i mean
they were like this will change the world that's maybe if you got i don't have a this is a popular
oh this is a popular podcast if you could send send that, that's not what I heard,
to Joe Biden,
the Pringle in the White House.
The Pringle in the White House.
The Pringle,
that,
I don't think so.
I think he could get some legislation going.
Yes.
To get rid of that.
In no state of the union,
he's going to say,
does it not drive you bats?
And we'll go,
we know where that came from.
Biden on the pod with Mick.
I think that would be a fun double booking.
Yes.
We're going to double book. Mick to Biden biden yeah he's messy he's messy gen z and what the greatest generation ghost bones sandy bones wait is biden the greatest generation he was on the titanic
you know that yeah survived survived he was the one who he was the one who
confronted the iceberg
after
he was the baby
that the mean fiance stole
oh
fuck him
fuck that cow
and then he grew up and he was like
and he bullied
he bullied Anita Hill
I that is a beautiful, you really did change the world is like, I should be president. And he bullied, yeah, he should be, but he bullied Anita Hill.
I,
that,
that is a beautiful,
you really did change the world there,
Aaron.
I think no one's even thought of it. For the better.
But,
because we knew you.
Okay.
Because.
What are our plans for the summer?
Being in the water together.
Splashing in the damn ocean with you girls.
Splashing in the waves of a pool,
of an ocean, of a lake.
I'd even get into a river.
Honey, same.
I would get into a river.
Honey, I'd go to the East River right now.
Let's go jump in the East River this weekend together.
Yeah, when Matt comes.
No, mama, no.
Mama, no.
Don't you know that it's toxic?
That's what I said to everyone who tries to jump in there. Don't you know that is toxic that's what i said everyone tries to jump in there don't you know
that is what did george say on the thread point on the beat when we were we were celebrating um
but you know in the way that gay people can where you celebrate and point out some of the flaws
of the film um what is it pretty young girl promising young woman promising young woman
wait pretty young pretty young girl pretty young pretty young girl when george was saying people were saying the music's amazing
and he said oh you mean a classical cover of toxic i've been thinking about i did like the
music i thought george was being shady on that one i thought the music oh do you mean a classical
cover of toxic which they also did for Bridgerton months before.
Like, just classical music
covers of pop songs, like it's
fucking Vitamin String Quartet.
Got me hard, I'll tell ya.
I'll tell ya. I have not...
What is it? If you take a Viagra
and this boner persists for 8 to
10 hours? Honey, I watched Little
Young Girl and haven't been stopped
since the toxic cover
came on. And I refused to get it drained.
That movie made you horny. I don't
think that was the intent.
I think it was supposed to make you think.
I think it was supposed to make you think.
I thought it was such a horny movie.
Wow.
What a thrill, as always, to have
our sisters. As always.
The sisterhood is strong.
Again, I want to tell the listeners,
we are bad at drag.
Yeah.
We're bad at drag.
Not one thing we said matters.
Do not, as you often do,
go to their Queens pages and comment our feedback at them.
Oh, but I will say this,
as we've said before on one of these,
if your dumb ass
has never seen live drag
and you think you like drag
from the show
RuPaul's Drag Race,
you are in fact
a rock at the bottom of the sea
that will never see the sun.
Your opinion is illegal.
Your opinion is illegal
and I'm going to lock you up
with Trump
and let you eat
his leftover Cheetos
in the tower.
Honey, you're no better than Trump if you've not seen live drag. Honey, you're no better than Trump if you've not seen live drag.
Honey, you're no better than Trump if you haven't seen live drag.
Good luck licking up that Cheeto dust you speak of, stupid rock.
And if you're a 12-year-old girl and not allowed into the bar,
ask your mommy and papa for Christmas to take you into an establishment to see live drag.
And if they say no, say, honey, this coach bag ain't going to show herself off.
Take me to the club.
Not for lack of trying.
I'm really happy
that we've got these
sort of rousing messages
to end the episode.
Not for lack of trying.
It is not how we end.
It is not how we end the episode.
We end the episode
with a song.
And I think we all know
the song.
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