Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Off Book, On The Record" (w/ Cody Rigsby)

Episode Date: August 17, 2022

Jetlagged from their journey to Chromatica, Matt & Bowen still deliver a helluven ep. Because Cody Rigsby... IS THE BAR. BDE? More like 3CHE... Third Co-Host Energy! This u-NIQUE (!) episode of Las Cultch sees Matt, Bow & Cody take the readers, nay, the KATIES (you all have a new name) on quite a journey through culture. In fact, it's basically a culture catch-up! Covered: thoughts on Gaga's aforementioned Ball, Beyoncé's queer twirl about the dance floor with Renaissance and thoughts on the incredible album (of the year), what it's like to partner up with Cheryl Burke on Dancing With The Stars, Shania Twain's Netflix doc, first and best concerts, Britney's fedora-and-bare-feet impact on messy Southern gays, the loss of Anne Heche, what the Delta Skylounge gets so wrong, keeping it positive, recent Michelle Branch news, and how the straight community loves Vegas. Also, Cody's controversial and dangerous thoughts on Tayla Swiff, what it's like to be THEE Peloton instructor, Imogen Heap's influence on both "the girls" and Myspace culture, and the following questions: is it more "Disney Gay" to have a Mickey tattoo on your bicep or go to the parks once a month? Do YOU think this country knows what to do in an emergency? IS Be Real Over? Find out (kind of) THIS WEEK ON... Las Culturistas!!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes.

Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. I have a discussion topic right off the bat. Can we just say? Go.

What? I can't even venture to guess what topic you will bring up. There's so much to talk about. You can't guess this one. This is a crazy week. What? Because while current events are happening as we speak, I am not bringing up a current event.

I'm bringing up something so truly random, and it's going to rock your absolute boat. speak. I'm not bringing up a current event. I'm bringing up something so truly random and it's going to rock your absolute boat. Okay, I'm ready. Forget about your world and your mind. Do you know who I just saw a picture of and I got so horny? Sean William Scott. No, but close.

Who? But not. Adrian Brody. No, man. And then that brought me to... I don't know. Our guest is giving anti-energy, but that brought me to this. Who is the weirdest celebrity that makes you horned up?

Like the fact that you're like, when you get horny for them, you're like, what? Because for me, it is Adrian Brody. Not now. This is like an old picture of Adrian Brody when he was, I guess, like all top. Yeah, I don't know. The weirdest, I don't really go for i i don't i don't really go for i don't go for weird necessarily you don't go for weird weirdest weirdest disqualifying sometimes do you know what i mean especially if it's a public i guess i mean like most most unusual like oh i'm horny

for him what a shot uh i don't know i think i think you know what it is i think we as a generation have been either traumatized or shaped by or i I mean, maybe they're the same thing, by like the Tom Green of it all. I think Tom Green really fucked us up. And then like half of us love weird and half of us hate it. I think I'm in the latter. So you think that our generation had Tom Green sort of come into the cultural landscape?

That's just an example. I'm not putting the blame on him. Yeah, that was a tough one. Adrian Brody, did you know, one of the people who is never allowed to come back to SNL. I knew you would say this. Yes. He decided to do a Rastafarian intro for the musical guest. I forgot who it was for, but he dressed in...

I believe it was either Shaggy or Sean Paul. It was Sean Paul. Oh, and then he decided decided to do like dreads and all that stuff. He said, let me come out at appropriate real quick. Listen, how are you feeling? Do you have jet lag from Chromatica? I do have jet lag from Chromatica

and from landing in the Denver International Airport to see my parents and my nieces. I slay. And I just have to say that, oh my God, this is a crazy week, but I would love to get into it with our guest, honestly. Did our guest journey to Chromatica? Our guest did journey to Chromatica, first of all.

Oh my God, this is going to be one hell of an app. I feel like I run into our guest at very fateful moments this year. Fateful moments. It's been those sort of moments where you're lit in the sun and you sort of whip around and turn and you see someone else very well lit in the sun and you're like, oh my God, I just feel so faithful.

I was enchanted to see the guest. I think I would love to ask our guest about, because he has very publicly known opinions about Taylor Swift. I don't know if this is the platform where he should talk about them, because we did somehow pull in a Swifty listenership. Oh, for sure. Against all odds.

And I don't think, I don't actually want to put him in that position. And we might just cut this out entirely. You know what? Here's what I'll say about this episode. There's going to be a lot of opinions stated about the girls. Because also the readers are very upset with us that we haven't even said the word renaissance on this podcast for three weeks in a row. And it stops here. Unique? We won't break your soul. Unique?

Yeah. But no one knows. The readers don't understand that we actually were waiting for the Queens remix to come out to comment. We were waiting for the Queens remix, and we're honestly waiting for the visuals to come out first. That's the realty, is that we want the visuals to come out so that we want to actually do a holistic thing about Act 1. I am

so happy to talk about all of the girls with our guest. Our guest is, you know... One of the girls, really. One of the girls, really. One of the girls, really. This term has been thrown around a little bit. Third host energy. Oh, shit.

Hell yeah. Third host energy. Not to put the pressure on the guest, but I have a good feeling. Well, now the guest better absolutely fucking bring it. Because to come up here and say third co-host energy, and we've only been chatting for minutes. Off, Mike. Because, peek behind the curtain, we've only been chatting for minutes. Off. Mike,

because peek behind the curtain, we did chat before. We did chat before. In the vestibule. I think our guest is at this point a pop culture icon. It's true. Sorry. And someone who someone who you see, and it's like what you were saying, like

I saw him at multiple points this year and it was like it was glamour. It saw him at multiple points this year and it was like it was glamour it was giving like wait how did you find your lighting and because because like i because i turn and i see him i'm like oh my god like i saw him the other night at the x-ley and i literally walk in to go take a little piss and i turn around i whip around and i see our guest just holding court but lit in the night night, in the Williamsburg night. And I go, oh, and it was lovely. He did compliment my skin at Horsemeat Disco.

Well, it's because your skin has been looking insane and I've actually said it on this podcast. It's the Zoom blur, I promise. Except remember last night, before we were going to see Titanic, which I did finally bring Bow and Yank to see Titanic. Oh, my God. Did we ever find out what that white flaky shit on your skin was?

No, no. I put on a Joanna Vargas face mask. That might have been it. It was cum. It was cum. No, I wish. I wish. What do you mean you wish?

You haven't been jacking off? It wouldn't land on my face. It wouldn't land on my, I don't know. Then, honey, you're not doing drag. You're not doing drag. Let's bring in the guests drag let's bring in the guest what do you say roll out roll out Bowen our guest is a legend he competed on Dancing with the Stars

he is truly the with Cheryl Burke too which is like that's not just competing that's being part of the fabric of the show okay let's just say that absolutely absolutely and he is A maybe V That's being part of the fabric of the show. Okay. Let's just say that. Absolutely. Absolutely. And he is a, maybe the,

but one of the Peloton instructors that we love. And maybe the, but one of iconic and maybe the, but one of, I think the, well, that's not up to us. I don't think, but he's the,

he's the only one I really go for. And it's, it's really beautiful to develop that rapport with them. You know what? It's like, it's speed dating. And then you always go back to the one that you're like, well, no, you took care of me since the beginning. 100%.

You know? Absolutely. So anyway, absolutely. Please welcome Cody Rigsby. All right. I was like, I love the intro. That was a very iconic intro. Thank you.

Third host was already be throwing around. intro. Thank you. Third host was already throwing a round. Wow. I know. So now you better come fucking hard with your takes on the girls. And like already, like I was already nervous about today because like you bitches are funny and I got to keep up. No, it's the same language.

We speak the same language. Let's level with the reader, the listener. We're all a little, we're giving a little Sunday tired. But we will transcend. But we will transcend. And there is no pressure. And I'm so sorry. I did not mean to put that pressure on any of us to deliver today.

I actually blame my being tired. And I want to know how everyone feels. Actually, Chromatica fucked up my sleep. Because I actually decided to go hard at Chromatica and then we really were up past Chromatica because what are you going to do not continue to celebrate the journey I went hard for no literal reason

I went hard for no reason I chose chaos and violence and just I don't know why I went there but I did I think I took your class on the day of the you did a class on the day of the... You did a class on the day of the show. Mm-hmm. And then I think... Or no, but you had a class in the

morning. I had a class at 10 a.m. And I didn't get to bed until probably like 2. Damn. But a bitch was professional and I made it. And I actually slayed the rides, honestly. They were some of my best. There we go. I think you've been... You've never been better. And I think it will

maintain that way. I'm really talking into these holes. I'm like, this is the third co-host. He has never been better. He will never go back. I'm tired. Okay, Cody, what was your

Chromatic of All experience? Tell us. Yeah. Come on, give impressions. I didn't get tickets to like the day of so I'm grateful for that I manifested it that was wonderful she was in the pit with all the little monsters and I had the best you were in the pit yes

but I didn't want to get too close I've seen her you know I don't need Gaga to spit on me I needed it this actually was my close. I've seen her. You know, I don't need Gaga to spit on me. I needed it. This actually was my first ball. I've seen her randomly at different live. I actually was, Bone and I were bizarrely, somehow we ended up at the Gaga and Tony taping.

So that was the time I've seen her. But she was very much giving like, you know. I kept saying, where the fuck is Tony Bennett? He's going to pop up on that stage like Michelle out of the Superbowl I was like come on Tony let's go let's go Tony and land somehow more rock steady than she ever did exactly if Tony popped up and planted his arm on his hip

that would have been so iconic what an iconic fag Tony Bennett would have proved to be in that moment but let's be honest Gaga the first four songs was not dancing and i was a little concerned i was a little concerned for the f the first four songs she was standing in gorgeous garments and on a wall horizontally and i was like i know i know there's something wrong with the hip the fibromyalgia i was like what's going on and then by fifth song she was

really hitting the steps so i was very grateful by the time act one started by the time everyone started you got some you got some steps the dancers were working very hard the first five songs they really were because she was um in this basically kinetic sculpture up top um screaming just dance while she was not moving herself which is no dancing whatsoever and then the jaws of life came and took her out of the metal garment and she finally began to after we were all told it was the beginning of act one she was thrust and we were all thrust into chromatica itself remember when we all sort of as an audience were sort of soaring towards the planet of chromatica and then alice started and it was

very clear that she did not know if her name was alice or not but she was sort of you know what i mean like the narrative had begun i think she knew so my question is what were the first four songs like a prelude is that what was going on i think it was prelude i think i think in the Gaga story structure, it always goes at prelude. Act one, two, three, four finale. Yeah. Never in the history of opera, of theater, of music has that ever been the structure, but she invented it. No, it made perfect sense in a chromatic. It was a chromatic in structure.

That's why it didn't necessarily quote unquote make sense. But emotionally, we felt every beat. It really is. Now, Cody, what did you think she meant when she said to the audience at one point, she goes to the piano and she says, well, first of all, okay, no, no, no. First of all, let's go in order. She sings

9-1-1, and in the sort of rev up to the chorus, she screams to us, one of her first American shows, and she says, this country knows what to do in an emergency. Let's go. My biggest let's go. Do we, though?

What was your response? Do we? Gaga, do we? She was also very demanding. She was telling us to dance and jump. I was like, okay, enough. I'm doing it. Do I need to do more, Gaga? I just did this at 10am,

mama. Slow down. Damn, bitch. I would disagree with that statement. I don't know if we do know what to do in an emergency. We've kind of been fumbling the ball the past... This country knows what to do in an emergency. What? Act even more chaotic? CDCdc says fuck it this because the cdc i said fuck it because like a bitch can't even get a monkeypox vaccine so like

you know like do we we don't know what to do oh we share instagram infographics that's all we know how to do anymore essentially maybe she still thought she was in europe and she was like oh fuck i said this country i met one of the countries i just left my bad girls fuck i i thought the social safety net here was different i thought that was something else okay and then cody you remember her saying because you know what'll happen when they try to come for a gay marriage you know what's gonna happen and if they come for gay marriage you know what's gonna happen when girl I just remember literally everyone around me was just blank

it was just like we can't even engage in this one we came here to disconnect baby we don't need to be reminded that it's going away in a few years there were no cheers there were no cheers we were like mama sing always remember us this way we know you want to will you put that fucking foot on that piano and get to work yeah

give play the heads put the foot on the piano put the foot on the piano i will say not having been to the other balls i i did leave the concert and mind you i had chewed quite the you were flipping a little you were chocolate Chocolate mushroom. I was probably peaking, but I was leaving saying that was the best concert of my life. I loved it. I loved it. I don't know if it was the best, but I loved it. Okay.

We played this game. It wasn't a game, but we asked everybody in the car that's on the way home. First concert, favorite concert. Oh. For you. Because I think this is this is so instructive about cody i think if you learn this about cody i think it'll tell us a lot i i know what is what is yours i know mine first concert yeah i think i think aerosmith with my mom great that's actually a good one that's solid i mean it's giving it's giving drag it's giving drag followed by shania twain so that was

that was a good second one and man i felt like a woman and best concert yeah if chromatica ball wasn't then what was beyonce's formation i honestly like lost my shit and i didn't have i had like seats in the bleachers or whatever they called it and I'm actually glad that I did because I got the entire visual art direction and I ate it up so you were at Citi Field? I was also at Citi Field me

Sudi and Henry my boyfriend at the time we were in the last row in the bleachers the last row up against the fence like if there wasn't a fence we would have fallen down. We were by home plate. We were by home base. What's baseball? Correct. You were close.

Kind of, but we were on the total opposite end of the stage. So, like, we were, like, technically, like, in the good seat. Like, if it were a baseball game, it would have been a good seat, but you're right. I am glad that I got to see the whole, like, everything about that spinning cube was fucking crazy to me and then remember she did it was like right after prince

passed away and then she did purple rain it was unbelievable can i can i add another concert yes spice girls reunion tour i lost my entire shit i i saw it twice because i saw this is when i lived in north carolina i saw it in dc and my seats were horrendous so i had to see it much closer so i went again and i put it on my amex and i probably didn't pay it off until probably eight years later so you know was that like 2000 no that one was headlines 2008 or 2007 something like that yep i remember that because i remember I remember that. Headlines. Remember when they did that documentary called Boys State?

Remember when they did that documentary where it was like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The five-hour-long documentary? I was at Boys State when the Spice Girls announced they were going to do that tour, and I've never felt like more of a faggot

than in that moment. I was just like... I was around all these military-ass boys. Like, oh, I was around all like these military, military ass boys. Like, well, the Spice Girls are coming back and they were like, get out of here. Yeah. You know you weren't the only one.

And it wasn't a get out of here. Like, you're like, get out of here. It was like, okay, you can leave now. Get out of here. You gotta go. You're actually ejected from the program. Did you watch the Shania Twain documentary on Netflix? I have not watched it yet i've not

it is worth a watch she's been through it she's been to hell and back i mean the whole shit about her husband cheating on her like with their friend and her losing her voice because of the trauma of that and then having to relearn how to sing it's really crazy wait i didn't know about that i didn't know that either oh yeah, yeah. Oh, she lost the ability to sing because largely because she was so traumatized by her divorce and then she got ill and then she

lost the ability to sing and had to relearn how to sing. It was like... Okay, not to bring in this different current event, but why is this theme through the decades up and down the spectrum of success? Why is this theme, through the decades, up and down the spectrum of success, why is it that our most talented female singers and songwriters get cheated on by their husbands, and then they are fully, they're the ones who somehow suffer the most?

The Michelle Branch news is driving me crazy. Oh, I can't believe it. I have a controversial take on it, which is the fact that he called the... Do you know what happened, Cody, with Michelle Branch? I'm just gagged that you're still following Michelle Branch, but Liv... No, I never stopped. And how dare you?

I'm so sorry. It's truly... Okay, so basically for readers, Michelle Branch was arrested for domestic violence on Thursday morning. And for readers. Michelle Branch was arrested for domestic violence on Thursday morning. And it was because she found out that her husband,

the drummer for the Black Keys, which I didn't even know still existed after 2005, cheated on her while she was at home with the baby with the six-month-old. And so she slapped him twice. But when the cops showed up,

there were no visible, not that this like justifies the sort of idea, the concept of like domestic abuse or physical violence. Is your controversial take Matt that like he's a fucking idiot. He's not. My controversial take is that he is a, he is a complete loser who ruined this woman's life. And then he comes home and takes two slaps to the face and then calls the police.

So then now she gets arrested. And now because they're going to have a divorce. Now she has an arrest record for domestic violence. And like it's going to probably like affect like maybe even custody because he called the police on his small wife who slapped him a couple times because he humiliated her and broke her completely. I call bullshit on that one. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Period. Can't be bothered to learn his name. Anyway, sorry, Cody. We're just... We haven't unloaded on this. We haven't downloaded each other on this, on our reactions. I just looked him up and he's just not cute. So why even slap him? They never are. No drummer is going to gonna be cute that's a rule of culture that's a rule of culture number 34 no drummer is gonna be cute about i don't care go ahead and think what you want to think i just think that she's so beautiful she is a beautiful star every picture that's in this

news feed just looks like she's taking a picture with a fan of them yeah no here's me and my full-on douchebag husband we support michelle we love michelle yeah but that was not that was not a fun thing to hear about at all but i think also the fact is like these these women like they marry these guys and they can't handle having like i i don't think they can handle having a dynamic wife like i mean like even like shania like she like robert mutt lang was the name of her husband and he like robert mutt lang yeah who i think was also some he he was like a genius musician but musician and actually revolutionized her career. Her second country album that came out before Come On Over, he jumped on it. The documentary talks about this. He was a rock musician, so he made her country songs pop.

And he did Any Man of Mine and all her big country hits. Because the first album was sort of successful, not as huge as her other ones. And then Come On Over, still to this day, is the biggest selling female album of all time. Still to this day. In any genre? Deadass. Any genre.

Any genre. It is the best selling album by a woman. Ever. That's history. That's history. Not like Whitney, speaking of. Not Whitney, not Adele, not like any of the of like the more crossover

people that was the crossover album I mean come on over like I mean it's true our own Cody Rigsby went to the concert he probably saw all types of folks I can barely remember it was also like the era of like the height of people buying music because a little bit after that

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He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez.

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it was Beyonce, but it wasn't Formation it was when I saw her do 4 at Roseland she did 4 shows at Roseland and it was absolutely insane watching her perform 4 live like newly like free of Matthew like

he wasn't managing her anymore she did that fucking incredible album and then watching her just tear it up and then the real gag was about a month and a half two months later was the vmas where she revealed she was pregnant when she sang love on top and then dropped the mic and revealed her baby bump and i was like a baby bump okay we have a truther here we have a pregnancy truth was she pregnant though? Who knows?

This is why it's giving third-class energy because we need someone to come in with the controversy. I've seen the video and that bump... You think the bump folded? It goes in, it folded. It folded. I saw it with my very own eyes. Beyonce's mad at you.

I mean... If there's one group of fans that you don't want mad at you, it is the Beehive. The Beehive. The Beehive. And of course, Teresa Drew Dice's Tree Huggers. The Tree Huggers are the Beehive of the Housewives community. That's a rule

of culture number 44. The Tree Huggers are the Beehive of the Housewives community. And they're militant right now beehive of the house house community. And they're all, they're militant right now as well. I, go Bo, tell us.

Mine, my first one was Imogen Heap, which I was telling Matt, I used to think was like, not a cool answer. Well, cause my parents didn't really like let me go to like concerts when I was growing up.

Okay. They wouldn't know what to like take me to. So it wasn't until high school when like I had my own money to spend that all of our friends in Drama Club

were going to Imogen Heap. And then I was like... And it was an amazing show. Yeah. And it was on your MySpace. So, you know. Yes. 100%.

This was after the OCD. Iconic MySpace song. Iconic MySpace song. Who didn't have that on their MySpace? I'd like to meet someone who did not have that as their Myspace song at one

point at one point at some point yeah thinking that you were so unique unique just thinking you were so unique well that was the trap of indie music at that time was that everyone thought they were being so

like crate diggy underground like ooh I really like dug this out of a record shop and it's like no every fucking 14 year old in the country has this because we're all watching the OC. 100% I only made it past the first season of the OC well it

went off a cliff after the first season I think. I didn't miss much then okay but you did sort of miss some camp when Misha Barton threw that pool chair into the pool. Did she do that first season? No, it was the second. It was the first episode of the second season.

Oh, Tijuana. Oliver Trask. Oliver Trask. Oh my god. Oliver was the best arc of television history. Oliver on the O.C. When he had a gun. Oh my god. That was terrible. And we've talked about how Samir Armstrong

who played what's her face? Anna. Anna sets the love triangle between Rachel Bilson, Adam Brody. No, not Adam Brody. Adam Brody. Not Adrian Brody. Not Adrian.

Can I just tell you I cringed at that because I had one of my first boyfriends kind of looked like Adrian Brody so I could never go I just like I can't I completely disagree but anyways Bowen what happened with Samir we know what happened but what happened tell the readers she's like full QAnon now I think she's cute

she's cute it's actually really culture number 10 She's like full QAnon now, I think. Yeah, she's Q. She's Q. She's Q. It's... Mama's Q. Another turn. It's actually really culture number 10. Samir Armstrong. Armstrong. Mama's Q.

But then, best... But then... Oh, but I will say about Imogen, like, that is now, like, they did a whole write-up about this where it's like, she has influenced everybody now, where Casey Musgraves when she wrote Golden Hour

was like, what would it sound like if Imogen Heap made a country album? That's what I want this album to sound like. Yeah, that makes sense. Ariana Grande doing full-on covers. We said Taylor Swift. I mean, you could argue that Delicate is entirely a callback to something like Hide and Seek. seek Cody is there a way

that we can convince you that like there's good Taylor stuff what's your we don't have to get into it if you don't want to break it down for us mama fish okay so it's a theme so I had a boyfriend in college who really liked Taylor Swift

so I really liked like It's a theme. So I had a boyfriend in college who read Taylor Swift. So I really liked Teardrops on the Guitar, Tim McGraw, I Can Fuck With. Okay. What was the really breakthrough album with We Belong Together? Fearless. Fearless was solid. And then what was after that? Speak Now, which people...

Speak Now. Which is a little polarizing. I know all three of those albums. And this is a Las Colteritas exclusive. I've never said that before. I'm admitting it in public. You know. I know it.

Taylor Swift, Fearless, and Speak Now. He's off book. Off book, off the record. On the record. On the record. Off book, on the record, title on the record title of ep I just like I can't relate like she dances like a spaghetti noodle

like I just don't think she's a good person like I just don't see it for her no no no no this is totally this is totally fine shout out to everybody that likes Taylor Swift like you know like enjoy your life

I do enjoy your life. I do enjoy my life very much. Thank you very much. And so I would say the thing about Taylor is I've actually noticed that sometimes people criticize me and Bowen for being so pro-Taylor

because there was an era of this podcast, and this is true, and we're just going to come clean about it because there was an era of this podcast, and this is true, and we're just going to come clean about it. There was an era of this podcast that was not pro-Taylor. It's true. It preceded, I believe,

when was that? Folklore. No, it was not. It was around 1989 when Taylor became so Taylor that when she did get brought down a peg by kanye and kim and by a peg i mean almost entirely it was when people were sort of like not happy to see her fail but like they weren't concerned about her like like oh no our fave it was like there were people that were sort of snickering

at the fact that like she was she was revealed as being you know a calculated quote-unquote person cody um but so i was the calculation for me everything is calculated that's what i'm saying like why are you at front you're you're the front row of every show with a new best friend and you're dancing and as the moment that the camera hits you you know exactly when to have fun and dance they probably don't even follow each other on instagram she probably doesn't even have this girl's phone number you know i'm saying like she's there with selena gomez and probably doesn't even have her phone number saved in her phone do you know i'm saying i it was the most transparent when she did have all of like the season 11 girls of drag race with her at the VMAs.

And it's like, you've never, you probably, I don't think you've watched an episode of the show except for maybe Jade Jolie doing you on snatch game. But otherwise, like, I think like in the,

in the package of clips you got, like, I don't think you have a full to full context for like who, like, you know, fucking like Rajah O'Hara is like. And, and she never was very vocal about anything gay for until

that no yeah well she discusses that in the documentary the miss americana documentary where she's like she felt she couldn't be and i think that is when she was peak annoying was when she was the most famous pop star in the world when she was in her apex with the 1989 album and like the world started to burn around her and it felt like she wasn't doing anything about it when other people were and like maybe suffering for it when it felt like she was like the capitalist pop star like and you know the short little blonde bob the supermodels you know what i mean that is when the carly class of it all that is when i think people were like not this and then when that all came tumbling down i think then she was we like i can say we were back on the up and up because

i think she did get oversaturated and i think that we are guilty of not being like ride or die Taylor throughout every era I mean we're just going to be transparent about it totally totally totally but we love her now but great business woman you know like I will respect I do respect the check

so you know respect the check and even redoing the album so she's getting more checks like congratulations we thoroughly stand okay period but then she comes out in her private jets yeah i admit but not the third co-host not the third co-host okay i'm gonna siphon myself over here and uh yeah i oh my god i i feel bad i feel like i really really backed Cody into a corner with that. You did, and it's fine.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. People are going to be mad, but it's okay. I live. I stand in my truth. I said everything that I said with my full chest, and that's okay. Yes, you do speak from the chest. You come out with some takes in class, and you do seem to have a good emotionally mature response to all of i'm sure you get some unhinged response based on the smallest things you say always when you're on camera duh yeah always and i feel like that's like part of that's like half of the job in a way is

like knowing how to like handle yourself when you have to like know how to speak to like moms in you know like the suburbs and like fags in the city and like everyone in between you know like it's a it's it's it's like a really trippy thing and I can't say I can relate because I feel like it's a very specific thing in terms of like uh the

fitness space where it's like you really have to like present yourself as like this very like understandable person. Does that make sense? Yeah. I think I, I,

I love that. I get to like bring people like, you know, bring people into it. And like, yeah, the, the suburban housewives that don't have a gay friend,

like they're, they're, they're getting into the culture, you know? And like, yes, they allow themselves to kind of, like, feel the fantasy for a little bit,

and why not? I mean, we say that our listener is a woman named Katie who works in... She's a communications major who lives outside of Chicago, is what I say. 28. I wanted to ask you, out of 10, how many people that

say they love what you do are named Katie? Like, out of 10, would you say? For me, it's like 6. Yeah, I was gonna say. I think it's 6 for all of us. In fact, literally the other night, Bowen, when we were leaving the Chromatica Ball,

a girl came up, and I always ask, whenever anyone's like, hey, I'm a fan, like, I just wanted to say hi and I always ask whenever anyone's like hey I'm a fan I just wanted to say hi I always ask what their name is and this girl said Katie and I don't even react anymore I'm like Katie it was so nice to meet you there's so many it's an army of Katie's we need to stop

calling them the readers and call them the Katie's the Katie's the Katie's period like if you're if you've previously been a reader of this podcast Katie's. The Katie's. The Katie's. Period. If you've previously been a reader of this podcast, and that's what we call our beehive, you are now the Katie's. This is the Katie era.

This is the Katie era of Lost Gulch. Speaking of which, Cody recently went to go see Katie in Vegas, right? I did. How good was that? I got my life. Bitch, it's hit after hit after hit after hit you know the words you know every word to every fucking song she's giving you camp she's giving

you theatrics it was so good i'm so glad that i went and that was like a literally 24 hour trip because that was the only reason i was going to vegas it's the only way you can do vegas that we just went for my birthday bowen didn't get to come. The straight community loves Vegas. The straight community absolutely loves Vegas. It's their fire island in a way. No, I mean in a major

way. I do love a good hard, like almost 48 hours in Vegas. I do because you do always do something stupid and you do always remember i remember all the stupid shit i did well remember slash happily don't like remember all the stuff that has happened in vegas and i do believe it stays in vegas thank god yeah it's it's dark-sided it's not christian like just keep it there oh it's

certainly not christian oh no it's the least Christian city I went to her station that's not even a rule of culture that's a rule of life like Las Vegas Las Vegas is not Christian but you know I think the girls are all ending up there or making pit stops

there and it's like we keep going because that's where the girls are who I need to reschedule is Kelly I know Adele just rescheduled her are making pit stops there and it's like we keep going because that's where the girls are who i need to reschedule is kelly i know adele just rescheduled her her vegas residency but the vegas residency that was canceled that was starting on april fool's day 2020 that was canceled was kelly clarkson who of course is my number one i'm a big fan huge i saw you on kelly you guys had a lovely time she She was lovely. She was quick, honey.

That was a well-oiled machine. It was in and out. I was like, okay, let's go. Oh, they give you a record. Did they give you a record? A vinyl? As part of your gift?

I think Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation. That's a good one. That's a really good one. They give me not one that matches me, which makes me think that they just pick it out of a box.

For the Katie's at home listening, Kelly Clarkson gives all of her guests a vinyl as a gift. Also, a beautiful gift bag. She personally picks it out. For Joel Kim Booster, she gave him the Back to Basics Christina Aguilera vinyl,

which is a cool one. I don't know that she does pick it up. Do you guys want to guess what she gave me? No, we don't want to guess. Okay. Bruce Springsteen's greatest hits. Homophobic. I love Bruce Springsteen.

Electric chair. She heard SNL and she thought, oh, he's Mikey Day. she thought you were mikey day she screams bruce springsteen also gaga talking about bruce springsteen i am proud of her for knowing that she was in jersey you know i i feel like it was she's very conflicted did she say she's in jersey she's in new york you know i don't know well that's a thing with metlife stadium because when we saw taylor i i again like and i have to say i want to stress like taylor is the majority of music that i listen to i do love taylor you guys know i love taylor the majority of the music that you listen to

i wish it was not because cody there's because there's variety there's you're you're getting a different a different fantasy with every album. You've got pop. You've got country. You've got pop country crossover. You've got folky music. You've got... I think that's about it. Endgame, you have absolute gangster rap.

I'm just kidding. Taylor said... She will try it though. She kept talking about, I love Jersey. It's so amazing to be in Jersey tonight. How's it going, Jersey? And we were like, we're in New York. And I think she did

toss off. She did at some point be like, she was like, who here came in from New York tonight? And all 55,000 people screamed. Everybody. I will give credit to Taylor. I wanted more of Chr i want what i wanted more of chromatica i wanted more production value i needed like a little bit more production value

and taylor had a fucking like snake coming out of the fucking goddamn reputation was an incredible concert you can watch it on netflix i'll pass but you know i actually have watched that and i and you remember it's when she's trying to be a pop star it's just like no girl that's not your I'll pass, but you know. I actually have watched that. And I... It's when she's trying to be a pop star, it's just like, no, girl, that's not your lane. That's not your lane. You like it when she was Taylor Swift with a hard R

and a hard T, and not when she's Taylor Swift with a very loose A and a soft F. Because she's a player, you know? Yeah. Katie's, we're bringing back the word player. Like, hey, player. I wish I could date that guy, but I know

he's a player. Put a pin in that. She did put out in response to the 3LW lawsuit. So 3LW is suing her for potentially stealing the lyrics, yeah. So, 3LW is suing her for potentially stealing the lyrics, players gonna play, hate

is gonna hate, for Shake It Off. Good for them. They need a check. And I'm all about chasing a check. So, get her. Absolutely. Get her. She might have to take one or two less private planes a month, but get her. Get her. I mean, every plane, by the way,

every plane flying over, every plane flying over MetLife Stadium, every faggot in that stadium was like, oh get her. Get her. I mean, every plane, by the way, every plane flying over Kermode, every plane flying over MetLife Stadium, every faggot in that stadium was like, oh, look, Taylor Swift. But Taylor has put out a statement saying that she has never heard of the group 3LW or the song Play is Gonna Play. Which is ridiculous.

It's ridiculous. Lies. Lies. Lies. That is not true Tay come on and that's when I can't fully support it I'm like no you can't that was radio Disney that was all over radio Disney

you know what I'm saying she has such an encyclopedic knowledge get out of my fucking face with that no she has heard... I will say this. I hope that she throws Adrienne Bailon Houghton some check because we know the reel is canceled.

The reel is canceled. It's too bad. But I can also understand that Cody's sort of approach to Taylor is informed by this ex know this axe that is emotionally a little prickly because you'll think of him if you listen to Taylor you're a broken hearted that's what this is it's so long ago but I think I moved

past that no you don't seem like you have you seem really raw what was he like was it fun how long did you guys date it was like 19 you never forget that one you never forget that one

never I think it's time to ask Cody the question well I just want to say before we ask the question and spin off we do have to give renaissance thoughts because here we are we've talked about all the girls and we have to give renaissance thoughts so let's just say what are your unique thoughts

about Renaissance? What are your thoughts no one else has? Go. That no one else has? Well, because they've heard... The Katie's have heard all the other takes. Lost Culture's coming in hot almost a month late. My unique thought... My unique thought is to

listen to it on a plane. The next time you're on a plane, Katie's, you're going to, you're going to, it's like watching a movie on a plane. It's like, you're, you're really going to be hit in a different way and a more impactful way. It really opened up the rest of the album for me. Like, like I was more like,

I was more of a back half girl and then on a, on this flight recently, I was listening to the front half and I was like, wait a minute. This whole thing is incredible. Wait, you were, you didn't, the front half didn't hit like wait a minute this whole thing is incredible the front half didn't hit for you at the jump but that's like Cuff It Cuff It!

when Lizzo heard Cuff It she was shaking in her boots it's a very Lizzo track let's just be honest it's a Lizzo esque track and there is this conspiracy not a conspiracy but there's a theory that Beyonce does not a Lizzo-esque track and there is this conspiracy. Not a conspiracy, but there's a theory that Beyonce does not like Lizzo.

Oh, wow. Well, why? Because she wasn't mentioned in the I think now all of these... Wait, wasn't she mentioned in that though? She was not mentioned. In the Queens remix? Lizzo was not mentioned in the Queens remix. Also missing is Mariah, I'll say that. And Brandy. Brandy.

And Becca, producer Becca says, but she did give Lizzo a birthday post? Okay, Becca. Thank you so much. Because I wanted it to not be true, so thank you so much for disproving. Alright, so I think it's disproving. I also want to know why the track America Has a Problem is not political at all.

I thought it was going to be very political, and it's not. It's not whatsoever. I'm obsessed with the fact that it's called america has a problem and everyone was like cracking their knuckles getting ready for that and then it's just about more about her fucking i absolutely love it she's like and i thought my husband like this too by the way and it's like but america has a problem i thought america had a problem and we were gonna have a discourse about it what happened we would talk about how america had a problem i thought thought Beyonce was going to help solve the problem, but no, she was like, nope, sometimes Beyonce gets it

from the back from Jay. And I was like, oh, okay. Well, that colors in some lines. At least, I mean, Jay-Z definitely got a break on this album. Not a negative word about the man. The booty gonna do what it want to, okay? Period.

I would say my unique thoughts about renaissance are that it is the album of the year obviously that's not a unique thought but I would say that well it won't win the Grammy just like watch like if it doesn't I I will protest I will take to the streets with the fervor of any other issue

America has a problem and honestly America will have a major problem and I will be shouting it from the rooftops and it won't be about how I got it in my butt it will be about how Beyonce doesn't have an album of the year Grammy after this year it must happen it does seem like there's going to be two more chances this being an act one of three

but I hope that they don't like you know Lord of the Rings this shit and wait till the last one to give it the big award because we must award Beyonce now like do it in the now. Award these people now. Say to the talented people of now, we recognize you're talented now. Don't let it be like Anne Heche, who we're only saying, hey, you know, she was a good actress after she's tragically passed. And I'll get to that in my I Don't Think So, Honey. But back to my unique thoughts on

Renaissance. I believe that, yes, it is like a cohesive album. You can listen to it through and think, wow, I got my life. There is a standout track. It is Alien Superstar. And I think it has risen to the top. And I think we can't deny that. No, it's undeniable. It is the song.

You guys both think it's the song? Well, now that the Break My Soul Queens remix came out, I think that's the song. And I think it's like, I just think it's Watershed. But like Alien Superstar, I mean, Virgo's Groove got a lot of attention off the top. And I totally agreed with that. I do love Summer Renaissance. I love the Donna Summer sample.

I think that's like, really? Cody, you don't stand Summer Renaissance? It's fair. Look, I'm just appreciative that it's a body of work. Because people don't make a body of work. To quote Beyonce, people don't make a body of work. To quote Beyonce, people don't make a body of work anymore and I appreciate a body of work that I can listen to from front to back.

Summer Renaissance is solid. I like it. I guess it's solid. You're like, okay, I've heard the album. Yeah, but I have not stopped listening to this fucking album. What's your unique thought? Unique? I told you. Wait, what's crazy. What's your unique thought? Unique?

I told you. Wait, what was that? America has a problem, it's not political. Oh, that America has a problem, it's not political. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. And this moment in American history to not be political on America has a problem. Beyonce, we're looking at you with an awkward eye, but also always satiated by you telling us how you're getting it. This is a hot take, and'm gonna i feel like i'm gonna i just question yeah oh beyonce is using the the the queer culture but was she about the

queer culture until this album came out so this is funny i'm just it's just devil's advocate like i'm not making a statement i'm just asking a question no damn i'm loving this third was beyonce like last year in pride everyone was like Beyonce's coming to this dingy Brooklyn club and everyone's gotta be there she did not come you know what I'm saying it was like her team was there or whatever the fuck yeah sure but whatever but I'm like

so Becca has announced in the chat that she is of Beehive and I can feel her rage so this album is dedicated to her gay uncle and there is a speech that she is of Beehive and I can feel her rage. So this album is dedicated to her gay uncle and there is a speech she gave attributing him in the community. Yes, we know all about Uncle Johnny.

The GLAAD Awards. Yes, the GLAAD Awards. And she was awarded with a GLAAD Award and she gave a very emotional speech about Uncle Johnny and Uncle Johnny's in the liner notes, etc. Bowen Yang, take the floor. Well, I think Matt and I both chuckle anytime we think about the fact

that before even before this album came out anytime we think about the fact that after britney madonna kissed at the vmas her response to the media was that she was disgusted but but i don't know that she was disgusted homosexuality of it even though she's famously a christian girl she's a christ girl, but I think she was... She's a church girl. She's a church girl. Don't hurt nobody. But I think she...

We can't quite pinpoint... Yeah, okay. Becca says you're not wrong there. Okay, so we have Beehive confirming this. And we are, of course, Beehive as well. Oh, firmly. Firmly. Firmly.

Best content of my life. Formation. Okay. Formation. And it's interesting that you bring this up, i was about to bring up how uh i was in north carolina of all places working this job and i was working with a bunch of heteros and they were like the straight community the straight community was like as a little confused by it because they're like and then one person even said it sounds like she's like using lingo that's like that just doesn't

sound right on her and i'm like oh that's definitely not true it lingo that just doesn't sound right on her. And I'm like, oh, that's definitely not true. It's not that it doesn't sound right on her. It's like she's representing a community that invented the lingo. I have to say, completely insane for straight people to say this lingo doesn't sound right on her. That is laughable. They cannot be the ones to say that. Like jail time for them. I think it's just that like...

Electric chair. Electric chair, literally. I think it's just that electric chair. Literally. I think it's an adjustment. I think like I think that we just we're not used to Beyonce being this like direct and faggoty. Exactly. You get the sense that like so many

of these pop stars know and make it a part of their thing that they are gay icons. You know what I mean? Like Lady Gaga's allyship to the queer community is so intrinsic in what she does. And like, it feels like in terms of the queer community and in terms of being a queer icon, which Beyonce so undoubtedly is, it never seemed top of mind for her. Only seemed like recently that she's even really publicly acknowledged her Uncle Johnny, who we're now to believe was like a major influence on her and it just seems like maybe this was a little bit

more of a struggle in her growing up and in her maturity than it was for her peers that are like major pop stars who have been like unabashed about being queer icons and allies to the queer community because while i'm like not doubting it at all and this is like an extremely like lived in like experiential piece of work that she's made it just seems like she's never been out here being like hey gay is okay doja cat she didn't even make a no hate picture in the early 2000s. Oh, wait. That's what Gaga meant. If they come after gay marriage. Meghan McCain was doing it before Beyonce.

If they come after gay marriage. We're teasing. We're teasing. But if they if Gaga says if they don't, if they come for gay marriage, then Beyonce will do a no hate picture. Thank God. Then we're getting telephone part two. Then we're getting telephone part two.

You know it's going to happen. Telephone part two. Where's the pussy wagon? Pull it up. Pull it up in the Sri Lanka. Pull up in the Sri Lanka. But you're right, Matt. I think this is speaking to the fact

that she has had to maybe catch up on a lot of things, especially after you pointed out, like, after she dropped her father, after Matthew Knowles was out of the picture in the business side of things, she was able to, like, be, like, write from or perform from a more liberated place. Yeah. Not be like this fucking doll

for someone else. And I think, I think, yeah, this is probably just a journey for her, like, like, her awareness. What's up, I think, yeah, this is probably just a journey for her, like, like her awareness. What's up? But even like the formation era was like the, I don't,

I'm not, I'm not the first time, but like where she was very liberated in her blackness too. You know what I'm saying? Like for her to like also do this, like the album after,

maybe that's what I'm trying to get her. Give her the credits. Of course, of course, of course. course you know i think that like she she always was but i think that there was like an immediacy to it which was like very very important to the moment and i think like it's this thing like we said with taylor like it's like you we do look to these people to make statements to the people now like you do have to when you have a platform and you have influence like you don't have to do anything obviously but it's immensely helpful we see what happens when these people speak to their fan bases so when it feels like

someone is like a washed out version of what they can be like now we notice and so when it comes to these very calculated pop culture icons and these fixtures in pop culture there is always a question of how is this serving you you know what i mean like whenever you're speaking to and speaking for a certain community i think so i totally understand like where that's coming from and i also think like it's touchy. You know what I mean? Whenever anyone is like, I am speaking for the queers now. It's like you sort of get this intrinsic thing like, oh yeah, of course, and they always have.

But then you backtrack and that's not really true. Because there's different things at play. But I think with Beyonce, I think she is kind of giving us, dumping a lot of knowledge download onto us. With the Queens remix, it's like, okay, yes. She's nodding to all of the houses,

and she's nodding to all of the girls from the past. Taking it back, for sure. She's taking it back, and it's a genius piece of music in terms of absolutely reclaiming the song vogue but also not shitting on madonna you know you're not you're not like saying fuck you madonna like this was our thing and you made it yours for a second it's like no like there's this beautiful intersection of things that like you can sort of pay homage to that but also like try to move forward with the ownership of it. But I'm saying, I think that's

where I get the sense like Beyonce is not doing this in bad faith or not doing it just for the clout. No, no, no, no. Not that she needs clout. Yeah, exactly. I don't think she is either at all. When I first heard that new bridge on the Queen's...

I literally had to pause it and stand up because i was like oh this is such a moment this is such a genius moment and like it also was just so like now those people are solidified in time you know what i mean like and there's the like like and like yes i love what you said about like her not like shitting on madonna she instead made vogue their thing. You know what I mean? Now it's something that truly can feel like it is a celebration of all these icons

from this community. Because when you think about Madonna taking ballroom culture and then using the word Vogue and then shouting back to the white actresses of the past, it is a little weird Cody great perspective I just I didn't even think about

that yeah it doesn't it's not like it's certainly not an A to B nor is it an A to C it's like a what it's like what are we saying like Diedrich and DiMaggio for Vogue and you're voguing in the video like what is the connection here just that you're in black and white and they did movies in black and white I don't know but you know it just i feel like it all makes sense and comes together

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I think it's time to ask Cody a question, which is, Cody Rigsby. What is the culture that made you say culture is for me? This is the formative pop culture for you that you can trace back to your beginnings. Seeing Britney Spears in a bohemian outfit with a fedora hat barefoot out of a gas station bathroom while people asked for her signature really fortified just so much joy and excellence in my life i knew that then i could be anything that i wanted to be and that a messy boy from the south would achieve greatness only because she paved the way for people like us and that is when I knew that the culture was in fact for

me. Yes! Wow. And for it to be a full paragraph, I mean like literally thesis statement on the essay that was beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. You could be the messy southern gay Because of that messy southern girl

From Kentwood, Louisiana Honey, remember the name Now is this the moment where she Was it the same? It was not when she was like Going through like Very messy times And shaving their head. No, this was peak fame.

This was peak maybe after In The Zone. She was probably maybe dating K-Fed at the time. Untouchable. Really went into that bathroom with no shoes. Wow. No fucks to give. No fucks to give. No shoes, no fucks to give. Title of that. No shoes, no Fucks to Give. No Shoes, No Fucks to Give.

Title of that. No Shoes, No Fucks to Give. That's actually the title of her book. I hope so. How are you feeling about Britney in the present moment? What are your thoughts? I just want Britney to be happy. I just want her to live her life.

That is the company line. I hope that she's getting great dick from that very handsome man. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, that's about it. I don't need new music from her. Certainly not. If she wants to make it, congratulations.

But I don't need an album. She's literally given us a lifetime of hits, hot tracks, bops, iconic performances. We're good, babe. Take a break. Take a nap. Go sleep. Go take care of them kids. I don't know. Just like, you're good. Yeah. Agreed. What are you guys feeling about this

Elton John track? It'll be cute. It'll be interesting. It'll be like, you know, the Dua thing doing Rocketman. I did like I did like Dua though and Elton John that that caught me by surprise

that I actually liked it that much not that I'm not an Elton John fan and I'm a huge Dua Lipa fan but sometimes you know when you mix old and new it just doesn't work it doesn't work

but Gaga and Elton also slayed in Chromatica we didn't get that at the tour but it did we did not get Signed From Above which I think is we did not but Tony Bennett it's cause Tony Bennett couldn't make it he was gonna do Elton also slayed in Chromatica. We didn't get that at the tour. We did not get Signed from Above. We did not. But Tony Bennett couldn't make it.

He was going to do Elton's part. Tony Bennett going, I was immortal! That would have been a gag. I was immortal! Oh, that's good. You think so Lauren Lauren Matt has a Tony Bennett doing Elton John

could be interesting Gaga's coming to host for Joker fully I do Cody I think so much of your the moment I became obsessed with you was when you know we all learned the rule that like when you play Britney Spears, we fuck shit up. That's the one rule.

I have not. I need to revisit the fact that she taught me everything I know about how to listen to music, about how to like watch music videos. Yeah. Every homosexual, every homosexual on Fire Island is dressed like a 2000s Britney Spears video. Yeah. They've got the rhinestone G-string out. They've got the bra top. They've got the sparkle pant.

Like, everybody is dressed like a Britney Spears video right now. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. I would say there was the day before Britney Spears was a thing and there was the day after. I mean, it was a sea after. It was a sea change. It was a sea change. Nothing solidified my homosexuality more than the Oops I Did It Again performance at the VMAs.

Right. She could rock a fedora. The fedora is actually kind of thematic in her work. She really loves a fedora. She's loved a fedora for far too long. I would say stop, but I'm going to let her live. It's her thing. Let her. Let her. They really placed that fedora on her head during the Blackout album.

They were like, okay, we need something to fix this picture. Here you go, girl. Yeah, her influence on fashion at that time, that really thrust us into Fed fedora era and that was not good for the majority of people before justin timberlake to be honest fedora was oops i did it again at the bmas right in the zone

in the zone the music video yes yep give me more album blackout blackout album also wait have we clocked this as a culture yet that like she has this

through line in her wardrobe it pretty much says everything that like the Britney Spears look alike in the Crimea River music video was really only a look alike because she had blonde hair and a fedora as she walked into her home.

And they were like, we know who that is. God, what a tacky guy. Ugh. I do not... Electric chair. Yeah. Electric chair. Kelly Clarkson.

Straight people talking about... No, I didn't say electric chair for Kelly Clarkson. Oh, no. I did, I did I did Why are we electric chairing Kelly? For giving me a Bruce Springsteen vinyl Al Vinyl

No, give her a chance, let her free It was her people I forgive her, it was her people I don't like thinking about Kelly in the electric chair No way, we would never let it happen Never I just found 115 images on Getty Images thinking about Kelly and the electric chair? No way. We would never let it happen. Never. I just found 115 images on Getty images

of Britney Spears in a fedora. On Getty. Not even on Google. On Getty. I believe there's a New Year's Eve moment here is what I can tell because she's performing in Times Square. Yeah. That makes sense. I think we're about to get the fedora back in full force

i don't want it do you think that do you think that a bowen i don't know about you in a fedora i certainly don't know i'm not wearing one cody i guess i kind of i see you in a fedora i really see you in a fedora if anyone if anyone can like be the britney spears like influencer and fashion and the culture it could be you um excuse me this is giving guys and dolls i'm not here for that i just like i can't do you know what i just realized again that we have to talk about is your mickey mouse tattoo i'm not a disney adult i know otherwise darling dear i do appreciate going to the parks from time to time, but I have a lot of Mickey apparel. I think Mickey is a pop

culture Americana icon. No doubt. Okay. I'm not a Disney adult, so I just want to get the facts together. Okay, so let's get the facts together then, because I would say, and Bowen, let me know if you agree, that having a lot of merch and having

a tattoo of Mickey on your bicep does make you more of a Disney adult than not going to the parks once every couple months. No, Matt, I think Cody is in our fantasy where we do not identify as Disney adults either, but

you know we love to fuck it up at the parks. We really do. And that's what it's about. It's about just going there and enjoying. You're so right, King. What? What?

No, I was promised one chaperone trip to Disney after doing Dance with the Stars, and I have not cashed in that token yet. And so I'm waiting. What? World or land? I think either one.

You got to go to world then. If they're offering you the opportunity, you have to go to world. And also, I know for a fact that Kenya Moore, they took her down to Disney World. And when she was on, they were literally doing pieces in front of Rise of the Resistance, her and her dance partner. She brought her daughter Brooklyn and she was like,

I'm so excited to be in Disney World. It was definitely packaged pieces. Exactly. You were on this season prior to Ms. Moore, correct? No, we were on the same season. Where were you? Why didn't they bring you down? Bitch, I had COVID and I was sick.

That's why. Oh my god, yes. You iconically had COVID during the comp. It was tragic. It was really tragic. That was so fucked up. That was a lot. What is Cheryl Burke like? She is... You know what? Our relationship, it took a while to like warm up to each other it was hard

really for the first like three weeks yeah just because we're both two strong personalities she's been in the game for a really long time yes she has we i think we butted heads for like the first few weeks not even butted heads but i was just like i had to absorb a lot but then i i started to really understand understand her and also understand that whole machine. And I had so much more respect and love for her. Once I like sat in that ballroom more and more, because that whole process is like mental and emotional, just gymnastics.

And it takes so much to be in that space, like a competition like that. Oh, live. So like my respect for her grew so much throughout the process just like observing her and like yeah. And you did incredible. I mean coming third that's like

amazing. Second runner up thank you so much. Yeah not for nothing. It was great. I mean it was great. I'm so glad I did it but I was so happy it was over. Like I was just like okay I did that. I did that. It's over. Great. Oh and that was It's over. Great. Oh, and that was when you had your classes in the LA store or something?

In Venice. Yeah, there was a store in Venice. It was very jarring for me. It was very makeshift. It was very makeshift when we made it happen. I appreciate Peloton's help. I'm sure you get this all the time, but

I'm literally telling you what you you get this all the time, but like, um, I'm literally telling you what you've heard from every other single, single person. From Katie's. From Katie's. But like, I really, it really was a thing where Cody was like keeping me,

like, it was like a friend that like, especially in like early lockdown. Um, I was like, fuck it. I'm getting a fucking Peloton. Like I can't,

I can't, I can't do this. Um, and then it was like discovering Cody i'm getting a fucking peloton like i can't i can't i can't do this um and then it was like discovering cody and being like oh he's the only one who plays the shit i like great then like he's my guy and it was just like oh great like cody's just like and you you guys all like keep it positive which i know sounds not trivial but i know it sounds like oh sure like it's uh like that that feels implicit but it's like it's so hard to do it's very hard to keep it like real but like no that's kind of always the real that that is kind of a rule for me it's like you can talk about deep stuff or you can kind of get a little like i don't want to say yeah you can get negative or bring up stuff that might be uncomfortable but you kind of always got to find a way to like, not spin it, but like find the positive in it.

Yeah. Because people are coming to class. They don't want to be down. They want to be up. You know, like there you go. So that's the rule. That has to be tough though. Like to be effusive all the time.

You know what I mean? Like that is like texting. Well, in that space, it's only for like 30 or 45 minutes. But I right even this like summer i've come to like like butt heads with it like sometimes i'm like i'm not in a great mood and i have to like turn it on right you know right i'm sure that's part of all this i'm sure with you this summer with fire on the movie like you you had a lot more bombardment of people and like having to turn it on more often no definitely it was more than it

would have been although i kind of i think and maybe bowen thinks this too but like there was so obviously an end point to everything we were doing it just feel like and we were so grateful for this but because the movie was successful and that people really enjoyed it the the the like press of it all and the conversation around it felt like and also the pride month of it all felt like it kept going which is like you know what i mean bo you agree totally but i i think people are also more understanding now it's not like not to compare ourselves to like britney spears when she was at the height of her fame but like that was a completely different culture around fame where there was no compassion whatsoever

or empathy or understanding of what this person would be going through. And I think anyone can understand that we are just real people when we are walking around and they want to say hello. And it's lovely. I think people are very respectful.

It's lovely, especially because you're having a positive impact on people. You can't be mad at someone. You can't be mad or upset that someone's going to tell you that you had a positive influence on their life. It makes me happy and smile every single time.

Every single time. This actually dovetails nicely into my I don't think so, honey, so shall we transition, though? Let's do it. Guys, like lip syncing for my life it's the Olympics of drag it's the Olympics of drag I better get a fucking legendary legend star after this you're getting one

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Okay, so this is Adam Thinks Honey. It's a 60-second segment where Bowen, Yang, Matt Rogers, that's me, and our guest today, that happens to be Cody Rigsby, third co-host of Energy, all the dude all day. We all take a minute to rant against something in culture that deserves to be absolutely dragged and Bo and I do have something. Okay.

This is Matt Rogers I don't think so honey. His time starts now. I don't think so honey the way that we did Anne Heche. Like if you really look back to the beginning of when she became super famous it was extremely homophobic and then when she was having struggles with her mental health like she was derided and

her career was basically destroyed. If you look back at her work, like, taking out the way that she passed completely, like, this was an incredibly talented actor. Like, watch Birth. Watch Six Days, Seven Nights. Watch, you know, like, her entire body of work. I know what you did last summer. Like, there's just so many things that she was in that you forget she was in because she was so in the fabric of movies.

Like, the Psycho remake that they did in 98, Gus Van Sant did a remake of Psycho shot for shot. It is so incredibly difficult to be iconic and be singular in a shot by shot remake, but she was in a remix. Anne Heche was incredibly talented. Like, she passed away in a tragic way obviously she could have heard a lot of people but i feel like we have to just remember the positive and not drag these especially women who are having real life struggles and i just think we need to be more compassionate about people who are having mental health struggles this is my own thing so honey and that's one minute 100 um i would i just i've been thinking

so much about obviously the way she died was a sensational thing. It was crazy. Who knows what she was going through? And she could have hurt someone. And thank God the woman whose home that she crashed into was okay and so were her pets. There was very minor injuries.

But I think that this was someone who was very obviously for decades dealing with serious mental health situations. And I just wish that we always could have been this compassionate. Like you think about it with Brittany always good. And talk about someone who was very singular, who had a very specific individual identity and energy as a performer. That's her. And she's... We are worse off for not being able to watch more

of her stuff. It's all really so sad. So sad. But yeah, about... Don't make fun of people that are going through mental health stuff it's that's really dark like gaga literally said that at chromatica ball yeah compassion she said have compassion for people with mental illness because if you if you if you twittered like hashtag and hash like even after her death wow twitter was dark it was really rough it's not

gonna be good it's not no course, because it's Twitter, but, you know, just something to remember. Were the girls dragging her on Twitter? Oh, yeah. Or just making a punchline out of it, which is so fucked up. I think maybe people thought, because she didn't die right away, that it was okay to make jokes

about, but yeah, because, I mean, well, anyway. But, Bo bo and yang i have something funny okay that's yeah i think this is an important one and i think i'm sure you guys will agree important even this is bo and yang's i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey the delta sky lounge having frittatas and not scrambled eggs oh this is major. When I want breakfast for an early flight and I go to the

Delta Sky Lounge, which I have earned my place in, I have built up the credit to have a platinum Amex card so I can, what? Get into the club, the space, the fantasy of the Delta Sky Lounge. I walked into the one at LaGuardia this morning and all I wanted was a scrambled egg

and two bacon strips. But no, what do I get instead? Egg white frittata and sausage and pork sausage. No, honey. I wanted a specific fantasy and you were not able to afford that to me. I loved the cantaloupe, loved the berries, loved the bagel

even. They had a fucking Italian cream cheese for your nerve. But I needed the scrambled eggs. I always need scrambled eggs. Don't make it fancy. Don't give me a little circle, little hockey puck of eggs. I want a nice

fluffy little mound of egg and cholesterol. And that's one minute. I think that every Katie listening right now can identify with that one. Because they're all Delta. Delta Sky Lounge complaint. I think that every Katie listening right now can identify with that one. Delta Sky Lounge complaint. All the Katie's are Delta gold, not platinum, not diamond.

But they better be. I mean, Delta's are that girl. Yeah, I will say I too have worked up my points to become a member of the Delta Sky Lounge. And those frittatas don't look good and just make eggs. It's not giving. What is the big deal? And no iced coffee in the Delta Lounge? lounge and those frittatas don't look good and just make eggs it's not giving it's not what is the big deal and no iced coffee in the delta lounge we need iced coffees in the delta lounge period period people are turning this off it's true it's crazy they don't have it becca said it is crazy they don't have it they said it is crazy they don't have it

They don't have iced coffee? No I mean you could make it You could make it but you know it's not the same That's the worst Don't fuck around with us You know you can't make it They'll probably get a Celsius before they get iced coffee

Listen I'll take a Celsius I love a Celsius How did Celsius become that girl? She really became that girl out of nowhere. Here's what happened. Jonah Hill was fucking chugging them on the set of Don't Look Up. And then he recommended it to everyone. Leo, Meryl Streep, you know, fucking...

Wait, is this how she became that girl? Literally? I think this is part of... I think Jonah Hill... I'm not even lying. This is tea. Like, Jonah Hill was like their like their brand ambassador wasn't even getting paid he was just like this stuff is amazing i don't crash it's the flavors are cute like i don't i don't crash i think someone i think it's because someone told me you don't crash on these and it's placebo

and i just believe in my body i'm probably i've definitely crashed yeah becca becca confirms they have a starbucks machine to make hot lattes, but no ice. It's not Europe. They sell it at the grocery store now. They sell big, big, big things of iced coffees, karatavet even. I also feel like most gay people who drink

iced coffee, we know this, they are Delta. Most gay people are Delta, I feel. I think Delta's the gay gay airline right yeah yeah i mean that's that's just that's something i'm surmising these delta these delta sky lounges have some like there was a family bathroom which like whatever like if you like meet someone there then great but there was literally at la guardia this room next to the family bathroom that i opened because they needed to go to the bathroom and it was just a

sink and a chair and a hand dryer. There was no toilet and I go, oh, this is just a fucking room. No. This is just a room for fucking which is actually very queer and if they can do that, then why not have the iced coffees? But what status do you have to be to get

into that bathroom? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Good question. Platinum pussy. Bowen Yang. Platinum pussy. Bowen Yang hooked up in the Barcelona airport. Congratulations. It was crazy.

It was crazy. I felt like I was in a porno. Anyway. Cody's not impressed. He was like no oh oh

alright you ready boo okay Bo and Ning are you gonna are you gonna time him I'll time I'll time him this is Cody Rigsby's

I don't think so honey his time starts now I don't think so honey be real okay I have enough social media apps on my phone.

I don't need any more distractions. Also, I'm a millennial. I like things to be curated. I like things to be creative. I need a little bit of FaceTune. I need a little bit of filter. So please, no be real. No be real.

I scroll every day. It's depressing. It's doomsday. It's political news. I don't need to see you and the gynecologist. I don't need to see your hot pastrami. You know, I just don't need any of that. And let's be honest, Be Real.

Are you being real? Because the rules have changed. You used to be able to upload your Be Real within a limited amount of time. And now you can be late to your Be Real. And so is it Be Real? It's sounding you can be late to your be real. Is it be real? It's sounding a little be fake to me. The girls on the

Pines Ferry asked for my picture and they wanted me to be in their be real. It was the worst picture I've ever taken. Be real? About as real as Taylor Swift. Oh my god. I can't believe this one. I couldn't help but throw in one last jab at her, at our queen. I can't believe this one. And that's what I meant on that.

I couldn't help but throw in one last jab at her, at our queen. I have to say, be real is getting more boring by the day. It's getting tired. It's not, it's not lasting. It's not,

it's like, you know, the tale is old as time. Okay. Period. Period. Period. I think, you know, Cody's being honest about the fact that

part of the fun of other forms of social media is that you do get to curate. You do get to have some control over what you show people, which is both the joy and the curse of the whole thing.

Everybody wants attention and everyone wants to show off. So, like... There you go. You can't do that. but i will say though like because you don't have to do it within those two minutes you can decide i'm just gonna be late today and curate something so it's not like it's giving you no opportunity to curate but it's answered that's the but it is antithesis of what it is yeah absolutely because we were because be real happened on chromatic of all day like right before we we left for the concert but our friend patrick goes i'm gonna take mine at the show and i wanted to be like well that's not that's not being that's not being real but also where the fuck are they at be real headquarters

that they know the gaga concert is happening in new york city that night and they're like yeah let's do it at 2 15 p.m stupid fuckers i don't think the people at be real headquarters know or care that chromatica ball is happening well they need to hire more queer people then and this is what i'm saying is be real obviously doesn't have queer people working there yeah hire more queers now more it is it is it is for gen z years mostly i period on that but maybe maybe they're getting tired of it too is there anything below gen z like younger gen alpha oh is that what they're called you told me that that's what you told me that that's what

they're called alpha first of all don't point at me with your finger you take your finger and go point it at someone else if you have a big attitude. Because you have an attitude. Becca says it's true. That's the chicest name. Yeah, it's really good. Until you get to Gen Omega, which is like, we'll be gone by then. We'll be dead.

They're going to start sounding like COVID variants. It's going to be Omicron generation. I'm going to say gonna say yeah i remember when omicron meant something different hell yeah real matt i think i i put too much pressure on our guests to be third co-host energy but i think he lived up to it and more and you want to know he's challenged us he challenged us that's what it was that's look at him. If you could see him now, Katie's. So much happened on this episode. We have a new fandom name. We were challenged.

Oh my god. And we all went to the Chromatica Ball. And even though we were jet lagged from our trip to Chromatica, we still came through, though. I think the three of us all had travel days today, right? We all came back from a place or had to go someplace else. Cody, you traveled yesterday.

I just went to Fire Island for the day. Wow, must have been nice. I'll take it out of you. I woke up this morning. I was like, oh, I'm so tired. Thank you for coming on. It took my whole life last time. This was a fun app. Thank you, baby.

Thank you for having me. We finally made this happen. I feel like we've been talking about this for like months yeah by popular demand and after much scheduling drama yeah it is what it is oh we made it work we love you I can't wait to see you next

when the light hits you just right baby I'm always gonna find that light I know you will well we end every episode with a song unique Baby, I'm always going to find that light. I know you will. I know you will. Well, we end every episode with a song. Unique! I'm the bar. Alien superstar.

Unicorn is the uniform you put on when you perform. Off book on the record. No, no, no. I'm off book on Heated. At the end of Heated, tip, tip, tip on hardwood floor. Do some of it. Tip, tip, tip on hardwood floor. Do some of it. Yep, do some of it. Go. Tip, tip, tip on hardwood floor.

Ten, ten, ten across the board. Give me face, face, face, face. Ya, face part. Never decline. Never decline. My God. Period. Eat it. Eat it. Eat it, eat it, eat it. I can't do the rest. But listen to Heated by Beyoncé. Bye! Bye! Bye. Bye. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999,

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