Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Oh, Look! Spider-Man!” (w/ Kristen Wiig)

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

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This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Oh, I see. My eye. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, look over there. Wow.

Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las cultureistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Now, where did you just come from?

I just came from my dressing room at S&O. Today was my actual last day. So I had to sneak in there. We're about to go to Japan. Everyone is back at work from. hiatus. Everyone's going back today for Monday pitch, but I did really sneak in there before everyone came back, clearing out my stuff. A lot of wonderful detritus. But the biggest thing for me was this original wig mold from the hair department and a little note from Jody Mancuso, the Emmy

winning Jody Manko to my bow. And until next time, Love Jody! Oh my God. This is my head. When you host one day, you have to bring this back. I guess so. But no, this is. is going in my, this is, this has a spot. You know, I, I, I, because I have a little, like, head, like a hat stand in my apartment, right? Yes, of course. This is a new hat stand. This is perfect for a hat stand. Because it's your head already. It's absolutely. Oh my gosh. And is this, was this word bow and is this where your face would go? That's where, let's see. Face and eyes. I just want to say face and eyes. Well, I think this is more. The eyes are the eyes of the face. I should get this tattooed on, like, right here. That would be really good. It would be nice.

Anyway. And then you start a music career. And then I started a music career. And then I started music career. But this was all beautifully coincidental because isn't it? It is. And it's actually a lot of things about this for Kismidi because I went in. Today was like the last day to do it. And then our guest was coming in today. And I was like, oh, wait a minute.

And then as I walked to this building coming out of her gorgeous motorcade, many cars. Many cars. It was just one. But coming out of her car was our guest. And it was, she was in a gorgeous, just foe fur and foe

it felt it felt truly vultures it felt so so perfect you know kismit kismet

and then so many things about the guests are perfect I recently got to have some hijinks with the guest I would describe

our sort of cavorting as Scooby-Doo-esque on the new season of Pomreale oh my God I've always wanted to do a stakeout

you got to do multiple stakeouts behind a hedge in a car it was wish fulfillment you got you were up to high drinks and your ass was up to high cheeks.

Damn. Thank you so much. There were a lot of great, Palm Royale season two, episode seven? Yeah. You got to really, this director really loves,

I believe the creator of the show. I will say, it's Abe Sylvia. That's who's responsible for this. Frames the male asses in the show with an attention to detail that I would only describe as gay. Heated rivalry, yes. Yes, and I would say that there's clearly a gay guy

in charge of the show and behind the camera and writing the scripts. And thank God. And actually I told him I was like from one gay guy to another, congratulations. Congratulations. Because this is a gay guy's show. And I am so like happy. I mean, I was watching the episode and just has the best cast of all time. It's perfect.

By the way, you can stream all of it now on Apple TV Plus and get this. They drop the plus. Oh, Apple TV. There's no plus. There's no plus anymore. That doesn't mean it's anything less. Just because they've lost their plus doesn't mean their. not A plus.

Yes. They're just Apple TV plus. Still a. Anyways. Bailing on this. We love you. We love you. Ape.

Sylvia. A great two first names name. Oh, yes, Sylvia. Sneaking in there with a last name, that's a woman's last name, most of the time. Most of the time,

not always. But I will say, there's congratulations in order because we are sitting here with an actor award nominee. Newly renamed. actor award nominee. And that is a big fucking deal. And I have to say I'm not surprised at all because I don't think there's a person in this biz who's more, who elicits a more emphatic, like,

excited, joyful response than the even idea of our guest showing up. And she has shown up here today a true pal, a true talent, and more. Please do yourself, us and more a favor by clapping hands like this in the ways of the seal and exalting the presence of our one only guest Kristen Wing!

Oh God, it's so hard to be quiet in the beginning. It's hard to be quiet at all. Oh, I have to turn away and do little side giggles. Yeah, listen, giggle forward from now on. Giggle forward, giggle forward. Giggle forward. How you, Joanne? Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. I'm happy to be

here and I know that feeling. of cleaning out that room. What was it like? Do you remember that moment for you? And I was going to ask, what was your dressing room? Which one was it? I think it's the one Sarah's in now.

Oh, that's a good one. It's like you go upstairs. There's the bathroom. I think it's the first one on the left. Yes. Oh my God. That was a little bit of a party dressing room I find because of the way it's located.

It was when I was there as well. Well, I'm sure. Yes. And cleaning out my office was hard. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, because you go when, you don't do it when everyone's there. So it's haunted.

Yeah, and you're like come in with a box. Right. You fill it up. And then no one's there. And they're just like, goodbye, building. Well, I said by to the security guards and that was nice. Yes, yes. That was very sweet.

Yeah. Come back soon, boom. I was like, yeah. Come back soon. It's all these seven foot tall. I love them all. Jersey guys. And they've been there forever.

Yeah. And, oh, you just feel so safe. Protected. Incredible. Also, the one icon is Monet Exchange's brother. Brother, Sean, the best. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

I, but it also felt like so beautiful and perfect. The perfect period on it was running into you. And I just have to say that, yeah, you were, you were the first alum to impart something to me, which was, enjoy the job while you can because you'll miss it every day afterwards. and it's the funest job in the world. And I was like, yes, Kristen Wig. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah.

And I think it's so easy to like over, especially because of the nature of the show. It's like you don't know what you're doing ever. And like you could have a sketch that works a dress and it doesn't work at it. There's so much like letting go. So it's just like, oh, it's just, you know, not to say it can't be stressful at times. Right. But it's so fun.

It's so fun. When you boil it down, you're. Yeah, you're just like being done. And I want to give a moment to, and I told Matt this this morning, I think we need to dedicate some time to the great James Anderson. I could talk about James Anderson for the whole all day. This is the literal place to do that. And the great Kenseblatt, like that duo.

Yes. But like individually they are perfect, but together they were perfect. I think they were your, so these two writers at SNL, you're, I think collaborators as well. Yeah, yeah. I got to overlap with them. Yeah. And James, oh boy. Names.

I was just on a names level. Beginning's Chang. Yeah. Were you Beginnings Chang? No, no, that was Maya. That was Maya. Beginning's Chang. It was beginnings Chang.

Non-Asian. Wait, and what was Keenan's name in what up with that? Oh, um, um, um, no, Trees is the one who's things like. You get the idea. You get the idea. But, um, but, um, but. Lettisa Stroh was Amy Poller's name. Oh, my God.

I was blessed with the James name once, La Toney Garage. And I was a songwriter for Keenan and Scarlet Johansson's Christmas elves who sang like Christmas pop song. Latoni. Latoni Garage. And to back it up with Garage.

And then he wrote me, I think, sorry to every other writer, including myself, my favorite line I've ever said on that show. I can say that now in posterity, which was as Latoni Garage coming up and saying, This song was an homage to my mother, the mother of the house, Miss Buffet-Stiles.

It was written at 5 a.m. when I was skiing with Miss Connie. See what I'm saying? The snow that goes up, Thunderstand. The snorty snow. I'm talking about crick-ray. I have that in my bones. Of course you do. That should be done in schools for auditions.

If you're not using that as your monologue, get into NYU Tisch, you're not getting into NYU Tisch. You're not getting into Yale drama school. You don't have a future. And even now watching, you're just like, I know, I had that James. That's James. Kent did that. Can't do that. How often do you watch right now? I will say not as much now with the children. Well, yes. Because there's like a contingent of alum's school. Like Tina and Amy seem to watch it like every week. Yes. And they're like, oh, that must have moved down from air or from dress. Like they're like talking shop about it. Watching later, but like actual Saturday night,

I haven't done that in a long time. No problem. With my little children. What are you watching with the kids? What's their favorite show? Do they love Ms. Rachel? Are they just a little old for Ms. Rachel? What's Miss Rachel?

Gabby's dollhouse? Oh, Miss Rachel. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, they've seen Ms. Rachel. Gabby's dollhouse. They love some pop patrol. Yeah. They love, they love wild crats.

They do. What the hell is wild crats? Wild crats. Where should I look? Well, tell them. Tell them. Well, it's these two guys, the crap brothers, and they talk about an animal. I don't really, I don't watch with them.

But you know enough to know it's not going to harm the children. It's not going to harm. They take an animal, start studying the animal, and then they turn animated. And, oh, my God, I can't pitch the show. Then they're animated with the animated animal. Yeah, you know what though? What's important is it makes sense to them. Then they come out.

Here's what it is. I turn on wildcrats. I make sure it's set up. Yeah. And then oftentimes I don't stay. No, you're not staying. So why would you stay? And then I'll come back in and be like, oh, so you learned about lemurs.

Yeah. Because they're 16 years old. Who? Both of your children. Yeah. You go off and you watch something adult. You were saying earlier, your favorite shows are NCIS, every franchise. Every single one I fall asleep to just murder.

Adult stuff. Adults. No, I can't watch those shows. Me neither. I can't be stressed before bed. I'm too sensitive. Unless it's women arguing as we know. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. We're all big in the house house. I can't do like murder. I can't do scary movies. I can't do anything dark. It stays in my brain. I'm too sensitive. YouTube are kindred for sure.

I'm an HSP. for sure. I can't even do something stressful. You know what I'm dying to watch? Meaning like a baking show? Like, do you find those to be at the stressful stressful programming? Yes. Well, sometimes I'm like, oh, the ganache isn't dry or whatever.

I don't know. I don't bake. I think Vanessa hosts the baking show. Or she did. Yes. She did host something. Yes. And Casey Wilson hosts, yes.

The celebrity. Oh, that's such a dream. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Any competition. He's done it. I feel bad for the people. I know who killed me.

I hosted a dog grooming competition show called Hot Dog, like Hot Couture. That is no longer on mass. You may not watch it. It's been on mass. Okay. It was removed. It's erased from the internet? Yeah.

Wow. It's completely gone. It was me, Robin Fidi, and Jess Rona. Zaslov said, not for me. He said, this is not good. Wow. These dogs should look like dogs, not fashion models. Okay.

Because one dog, they turned into Lady Gaga. another dog they turned into Kate Gosselin 2009, Kate Gosselin. Yeah, yeah. And this was recent? This was pandemic. So this literally shot. It shot in July 2020.

It was the only thing shooting in Los Angeles along with RuPaul's drag race. It was hot dog and RuPaul's drag race. And it was truly, I was like, wow, we shot like two weeks straight, 12 episodes, put it on. It was like chopped with dog. Grooming, heartbreaking.

Well, there's your show. Yeah. Chocolate dog. And in fact, it was the show. In fact, it was the show. Oh. With dog grooming. This is that you thought you were coming here to be challenged for your dog grooming.

But in fact, make us a cord on blue. While blow drying is poodle and making them look like a hard. See, you do know how to pitch. Yeah, I have ideas. But wait. I have ideas. You were saying this on, on Amy's podcast that like, and I really to this horror, which is that I'm a horrible, horrible storyteller.

Like, my worst nightmare is explaining, oh, no, it's my worst. Walking someone through an idea or a narrative and having everyone listen to me while I do it. Bowen, I'm so happy to hear this. Because do you find, people are like, that's not true. I don't believe you because you can do other things. Embellished, yeah.

I'm so bad. It's my nightmare to be out to dinner and be like, oh my God, Kristen, tell the thing. And I'm like, because I couldn't even describe wildcrafts. You did. I did describe it. I kind of described it. It's an avant-garde children's show.

Yes. It's an avant-garde children's show. Right. And then somehow they come back. And then they say, thanks for watching. Yeah. I'm happy to know. Can I say that I'm happy to know that children's programming is still like a little wacko and surreal.

Because I remember when we were younger and you would. So it was like Disney Channel, which was a little bit more straightforward. And of course, this is more like preteen program I'm talking about. But Nickelodeon when we were kids, like young, young, it was cracked. The things that would happen in those animated shows, like Ren and Stimpy and like Rocco's Modern Life. Like this was-Renby felt adult to me, right? Very much so. Was that on it in the morning?

I think it was on, it wasn't Cartier Network. I think it was Nickelodeon. It was Nickelodeon. It was like in a bar. You know what I mean? like you'd go into a bar and just like renn and stimpy would be playing that's a cool bar I remember like rocko's modern life there was a scene one time where like rocko got shot out of a cannon and landed thousands of miles away and like the where he landed was with with full

force into a huge like hippopotamus's breasts and the hippo said how dare you well and that was the humor in the program I don't even know what to say there's nothing to say the only thing to do is really react and take it in and then you process at home. Yes. I can't, I let, Bluey, I think is really sweet. Yeah. Bluey I love.

But I just kind of, TV is a time for, for Mama to rest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's watching Salt Lake. You were, can you talk about this that you were the most starstruck at the Culture Awards, which you were phenomenal in, by the way.

Thank you for doing that. Thank you for having me. And that was such a fun night. Robin, the Ridler's assistant. I didn't quite realize like how many of them were going to be there. Oh, you mean all? All of them? You mean how many of all of them?

Torning in Australia with Teresa? Looking down at the seats with the names. Yeah. I didn't, I, because it's a connection I have with these people. Of course. But it's broken the barrier. Something I didn't want to cross it. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, I want to. to meet them, but I don't want to meet them. You have to be in the TV, like you say to those people. Yeah. But then what I loved was we got to see all the photos afterwards from the green room, and you did get a picture with each and every one of them, and which you know made their life. Yeah. Of course I did. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to meet and greet every one of them. Yeah. But I don't want to ask them questions. I don't want to know about the show. I don't want to know who knows what before the things. Like I don't care what's talked about.

I don't want to know. Because you're honoring that. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Yes, because I'm the same way. Like, Matt will tell you the people I'm most stressed are around are the housewives. 80 Bryant is the same way. She was the same way that night.

She was like, I can't believe all the Salt Lake City women are. Rina just being around sort of running the whole show was really, and by the way. Made a lot of sense, though. Have you started Traders? No, it's the one I haven't started and I will. You're going to love it. Where should I start?

I think, I'm just going to tell this to you because now this is going to come out, like, shortly, but the thing is, like, we now have seen the first three episodes, and so everyone out there, this isn't a spoiler. Yeah. Lisa Rina is a traitor. Okay. They've chosen her as a traitor. And it was a euphoric moment for, I think, anyone watching that knows exactly how well they've done

in making this decision. But to know that she's going to be in charge of the gameplay. See, I don't even really know what. It's kind of like they just tap your shoulder, right? And then you're the... Here, talk about good story telling. Go look at that camera. Say what you think traitors is.

No, it's everyone lives in a castle. 100%. And people get chosen to like kill people. Yes. You're doing great. Nobody knows. No one knows. And even if you are a killer, you pretend like you're not a killer.

Yes. That's crucial. And then you kill them by by tapping them. You write them a letter. Oh, you write them a letter. No. So if you're a traitor, you mean. in what's called, and this is real, you meet in what's called the turret at night.

Okay. Pronounced like, the turret. The tettet by Allen Cumm. Yes. Yes. Scottish iconic Alan Cumming. And you watch them deliberate on who to kill. Okay.

And then the next morning, at breakfast, everyone shows up, and then the person who doesn't show up at breakfast. It's dead. Everyone's like, it was this person. And then there's also a British and Australian version of the show. Excellent. And when people don't come into breakfast the next day and they realize who's murdered, people will often say things like, Oh, no! And then the British host is a woman named Claudia.

Claudia Winkleman. Who is a Kristen Wig character? You need to look up Claudia Winkleman. You actually have to. Oh my God, Kristen. You have to. I will. Because she walks into breakfast like this and goes,

The traitors have murdered again. This is a tragedy of titanic proportions. The traitors are laughing at you. A traitors are laughing at you. A traitors are laughing. I can hear them laughing. And then Tom Daly from the UK diver got eliminated. And she comes and announces he's dead.

And she goes, he won gold for this country. Is that not enough? He won gold for this country. That wasn't enough. Oh no, I need to watch this. It's Kristen. Okay, can I ask you a question? When you went on as Harry Styles on the Tonight Show,

you did not know who Harry Styles was. No, no, no. I knew who he was. I just didn't know anything. about him. You didn't know who's thing. When I did Michael Jordan. Callisi or Michael Jordan.

I know who they are. But I don't know. What are you coming out dressed as tonight? Are you coming out dressed as a... No, I'm myself. You're myself. Perfect. But we're just doing like a little, you know, let's make fun of Kristen.

So speaking of... Speaking of, let's make fun of Christian. She got the after award nomination. Now, take her down a pad. People are soaring too high. Off her pedestal. Get him. We've been dying to ask you this.

Oh my God. What? Because this is the thing that we've quoted. in reference for at least, I want to say, like seven years of Matt. Oh my goodness. You told a story on the late show with David Letterman. This is a really important moment. About one of your first jobs in L.A. being at Universal Studios.

Yes. The park. You started, as I can recall, you started off at the restaurant. You will have to be more specific. Okay. On which restaurant. But we'll get back to that. And then you also told the audience, the world.

me that your other job was that you were playing. A reporter. A reporter on the lower level trying to get people to come to the X-Men Spider-Man show. The outdoor show. The outdoor, like, stunt show, basically. Which did not have seats that just had a stage. This is correct.

So your job was to corral. Yes. But then you had a microphone that boomed your voice to the entire heart. Yes. And so you would say things like, like, come here, come here. Or our favorite, the thing that we've been quoting for the past,

for the past several years is, Hey, did you hear that there are mutants on the loose? Yes. Quote. People would look at you. Our favorite face is this. Okay, so to be clear, I worked at, in the restaurant,

at the executive dining room. Oh, wow. So I did, yeah. Let's celebrate that. Trace service? Yeah, well, they have, I would take the order and bring drinks. They had food runners.

I would bring the dessert. Great. I had the tie, the apron. Very chic. That was a great job. Yes. And then I was like, I want to perform. Yeah.

I got to move into the entertainment sector. So I got a job. I auditioned for. They were going to do an improv group. Great. At Universal? Yes, for the park. Yeah.

Oh. Exactly. Was not thought out well. We did not have a stage. we were walking through the park doing improv. Just started doing improv. You realized doing improv is being somewhere, getting a suggestion. So literally we would be walking through the park.

And we'd be like, hey, can I have a location? And they would be like, Home Depot. And then they would like walk away. And then we'd start to do a scene about Home Depot. But then other people would walk up and be like, who are these people? I don't know where that what's the game. We would stop in the middle of it. No one's watching who was originally there.

We trained. We rehearsed for weeks. And we had audition for this. We were like, this is our big break. We did it for one day. And they were like, and they were like, thank you. We're like, what is this?

Because we'd be like looking through. And then you'd see part of the people and they're like rescuing someone from like the boat. And people were. just like, excuse me, walking through the scene, there was no stage, nothing.

So you do know how to tell a story, look at that. Okay, well, that, okay, well. I'm crying, wait. But then, but then, so they said, they said to me, we are doing this X-Men show on the lower lot,

on the, there's... You gotta take 10 escalators down. It's the down one. And when you think you're at the bottom of universe, you're not, wrong. There's another level that's below. Yeah. It's still, outdoors.

There's yet more depth to Universal Studios Hollywood. There's a stage. And it was a show with where the X-Men would come out. But I, my name was like something Martinez. I did not. This was, they gave me the name. I had a microphone. It was dressed like a newscaster.

Doris Martinez. Something like that. Something like that. And I came out and they were like, you got to, you got to bring the crowd into like. the stage. No. But it's just people walking around. So I would have to say like, trying to get on the rides down there.

Yeah. It's like, oh, hey, excuse me. Hey. How hell. My name is. Something Martinez. And like, did you hear there's a mutant on the loose? You guys, come on.

It's, and then I would just like point to the stage and be like, just wait, right. Right right here. Hey. And it was my job to get people to come to the stage. Yeah. Stand and wait. And wait. Because it was minutes.

I had to do this for like minutes. and then then music would start and Storm and Wolverine maybe I'm sure he was involved He tends to go where the X-Men go Walking through the park

Not even on stage yet just like Improv And they're holding like a machine that's like supposed to detect Mutants crime mutants Oh yes of course Yes so then they do that They'd find like they go up to like a little kid and like pretend to do whatever.

And then the show's over. That's the show. And then are you out to be like, okay, you know, Jurassic Park. If you're a mutant, like try to raise this glass and then the obvious, it's on a pulley, which you could say and it would go like, that's cute.

That's really cute. And the people would be like, oh my God, you're a mutant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I had to go. A mutant. Then the end of the show, I'd be like, thanks for coming. Oh my God.

It's spiked. And Spider-Man was standing on top of a building. And you know that song by, is it Paramore that's like, Oh, Evan essence, yes, yes, yes. Spider-Man, Spider-Man. This leg up on the thing. And then it stops. Spider-Man falls off the building into a puffy.

mattress that you can see. So he's standing on a building like this. And it's like, and the music cuts out. The music cuts out as he lands. And then it's over. And then it's, it's going to do it all over again. Everyone walks away. Yeah.

And where do you go? Thank you for coming. I go into the guest room thing. And then I have to come out and do it the next hour. It was like every hour we had to do the show. Oh my God. Thank you for coming. And then.

Now, did you ever find like, did you ever feel like? Everyone just like walks away. Slowly walking. No music. Just like. And then everyone walks away. Is this okay that I'm saying this? No, yes.

Did you ever feel like it went well? Like, you never feel like killed it? Got 30 people to watch it. Because by the end of the summer, and this was in the heat of summer. I know. Well, yes. So hot. You know, you start to get, like,

like loose with it. And the kids who got, they were like so excited. You know, like, oh my God, I'm a mutant. That was fun. How many people on average

would you corral in one show? I mean, in the tens? In the tens is good. People would start to come. Like people would, because it was a show. It had lights and it had

all the X-Men were up there. Right. Oh, look, Spider-Man is title of F. Oh, look, Spider-Man is the title of episode. Oh, look, Spider-Man. How big was the stage? Was it the size of this rug? No, it was like two rugs.

It was like two rugs. That's pretty big. All of you at home. It was about two rugs big. Two rugs. Yeah. But the thing is, I want to say, I loved working at Universal though.

I'm sure. I can tell. It sounds like it was really fun. If I worked on a movie studio, it was so fun, I also catered there, so I would like, you know, drive the little golf carts around. You want to know what my evenings actually look like?

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And it was like this weird. Like they, driving around on the cart, like, there is like a glamour to it. It's what you always wish for. And I remember thinking the same thing when we were doing Palm Royale on the Warner Brothers lot.

I remember we were all in costume. Burbank. And then it was across the street from Abbott Elementary. And they're a great vibe. That whole cast is like incredible. You guys are all incredible. It felt like really, really fun.

And then I remember everyone's like in custom, whatever. And then the tram went by. And I was like, oh, wow. Like that was really a cool moment of being on a real lot. And like the fact that like it's just, Palma Rial is like such a realized like the costumes are incredible. Every, all the departments are doing like such incredible work. Amazing cast.

And to be able to do that on the lot coming from, you know, what you started your career doing. That's like a really full circle. Yeah. And and and being on. a lot. Like you said, there's so many other shows. I think the pit shooting there. So you see people walking around with like bandages on and like, he's like, oh my God, girl. The pit, Pomroyo and Abbott Elementary in three different

world. You can do anything on a lot. You really can. Shoot, let's shoot in LA, everybody. Come on. That's beautiful. Thank you for giving us more color and detail because I've been thinking about that. Just you saying, did you hear there are mutants on the loose? There's mutants on the loose. Please just watch the show to figure it out. You got to figure. No, there's going to be Mutants really soon. Did you hear? There's me on the list. Have you heard?

Speaking of your early improv. Live mic, have you heard? Like one of the things I've wanted to ask you about for a very long time. And I've never brought up to you. And I don't know if you even know this, but one of my favorite shows in the beginning, like, when I was like, when I first got like a TV in my room and could like post up and watch a show all day was something called the Joe Schmo show. And it was on the man. It was on Spike TV. Spike TV.

So it was on Spike TV back when this was a thing. I remember I would like, because I was like had a TV in my room, I was flashing back between like Spike TV and E. Like you remember when Howard Stern was on E at night? Yes. I felt like such like an adult in my room with a TV. I got obsessed with the Joe Schmo show and you were on the Joe Schmo show. Do you want to describe what the Joe Schmo show was and what your role on it was?

Yes. It was a reality show, but it was. all improvisers. Kind of like the jury. Jury duty. Jury duty. Yes. Perfect. Perfect. I think. I haven't seen it.

100%. There's one guy that thought it was real. Right. He thought he was on a show called Lap of Luggery. Yes. Yeah. And we were all improvisers. And we had to, yes. And my character, her name was Dr. Pat.

And she was a marriage counselor that was like married like six times or something. He was a marriage counselor that had been married many, many times. Yeah. And I remember you were on the show and it was like, so basically their job is to like convince this person that they're in a real reality competition show and he's the only one who's doing it for real. They're all after playing characters. I was stressed.

And I wouldn't do it again. I love everyone involved. Yeah. But I have my conscience. I felt bad. Well, basically you had. You felt bad. It's a version of traitors, by the way.

Very much so. Yes. But the thing was, there was a physical challenge where they were all in sumo wrestling outfits. And Kristen was in a sumo wrestling outfit as Dr. Pat. And she was up against the guy who was, you know, the Joe Schmo. And during the competition, he knocked the wind out of you so hard during the sumo wrestling. That you had to go to the hospital and leave the show. What?

And I'll never forget, you stayed in character. Yes. While you were knocked out and you said over and over again, Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. I, because the costume, it was one of those sumer things where there's space on the back. And so you're like, so I got yes.

And I got like fully whipped. Fully whipped. And I had to go to. And you stayed in character as Dr. Pat. Well, I don't want to be like, fuck, give me the fuck. You would have been, I would have been in character. Well, no. Oh, because she's very, she was very, very dacile person.

Yes. I see. She was like, hi, I'm Dr. Pat. You know what? It was very, Kristen was doing like early Kristen like, hello, yes. Please, like, let me know if you have any problems. I've been married six times, but I have a lot of experience. That is so funny that you watch that.

It was my favorite show. That was the first thing. In fact, that was the show that I got. That's when I left Universal when I was waiting tables. I was like, I booked. I've made it. No, but those jobs are really fucking huge. It was like, it was like, it was a big break.

You know, it was like, it was a paying job. It was a paying job for the first time in my life. You wouldn't count the walking around doing improv at Universal Studios. Like the first thing. You did one day. Well, you know, it was the first time, like, it was filmed. Yeah. You know, like, you know.

Yes. This was your TV breakthrough. Yes. That was live. That was live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I, I agree with you. Like, I totally understand you not wanting to do that today because I watched jury doing and it was like, you was like, the first of all because of oh my stars you staying in character just give this woman the after award now truly already and i watched jury duty and i was like i don't know how especially james marston like i don't know how any of these people are like pulling this off they are incredible edie modica oh allegedly love you no judgment like it's i just for me couldn't handle it i'm i'm too sensitive my nervous system couldn't i can't my i can't my nervous system yeah yeah couldn't handle

And also a little bit like once you start, I felt this way when I was doing the prank calls for Elle magazine. I was like really nervous. I was like, oh, God, I don't want to do this. I'm a very empathetic person. I don't want people to be stressed out. And then like you start and you're like, oh, no, I'm too good at it. That's the thing. Yeah.

You were good at it. You were Dr. Pat. Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. I'll never forget. Oh, that's so funny. And then you got on SNL.

What was it? Like, a few years after that? Like, you can't have been super. long after that? Years. My time is really bad. I may have been one of the only people that was like, oh my God, that's Dr. Pat.

You were the only person. Dr. Pat is the new star of Saturday Night Live. Oh, my stars are my stars. Was you being something, Martinez, helping to pay for Groundlings classes, or was that not? Was that before? Yeah, that I did not have a job.

That was... Beautiful. To get that job. felt like I was, yeah, it was like a working, I was making money. And I was, you know, when you're starting out, it was a big deal. Of course. Yeah. Anything. Anything you can get paid doing that is not a survival job at that point

feels like an I made it moment. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember our first paycheck. I mean, I have like romantic thoughts of those days. Yes, me too. Because it's like, when Matt and I like got our first paycheck from story pirates, we're like,

this is technically our first paying like, kind of. And it was $30. And you're grateful. And you're like, I did it. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I had a tour guide job in New York that was like on a bus.

And it was like it wasn't good money, but I felt like it was all worth it just to even be able to do anything in a way where they were like paying me to do that. While we remember missing, let's ask Kristen the question. It's time. Kristen Wigg. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Okay, I think, is it okay if I pick a movie? Yes, it's so more than okay? Okay, well, I have two, a combination of Annie and Greece.

Oh! Because I think Annie for me was like, oh, I want to do that. Yes. Why didn't I get to audition for this? Yeah. Even though I've never acted in my life. It's too late. I'll never be any.

Adult Annie, can I pitch them? I think, yes, I was just going to say. And then Greece for me, I have a love for Olivia Newton-John that will never leave me. There was something about the high school aspect of it, what high school could be John Travolta. So handsome. And then her, obviously, don't just change your identity for a man. Totally. That's not really the lesson.

But there was something about her becoming this, like, sexual thing and not giving a shit. Yeah. That I was like, I just loved that was the ending of that movie, if that makes sense. And I, I love musicals. I love when everyone's getting up and singing together and dancing. And, like, it just makes me so happy. And I imagine what it's like on the set with everyone, like, rehearsing. And even S&L when we would do, like, dance stuff.

Those rehearsals, like, that is, I live for that stuff. I love that stuff. Yeah. I don't know if this is a good answer to not, but I just remember that, that Annie and Greece, both musicals, both stories about, you know, people wanting something more and singing about it. There was just something about that that I was like, I don't know, I just, I realized how much entertainment could like affect me. And I think that's for sure, even though I didn't want to look at. it, that was the seed that was planning. I was like, I want to do this.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Because there are stories about these women and girls who want to be part of something that they didn't realize was available to them. Yeah, and they want love. And they want love. I don't know, I just, and don't we all? And don't we all?

And isn't we all? I'm gonna bring him into this. Isn't Lorneo kind of like a daddy Warbucks? A hundred percent. Yes. And we're all little orphans. Yes. Have you said that before?

No, but I- very, that's a very... Let's put that out there. Have you said that to him? Because I'm sure he would really like to hear it. Lorneyo, you're kind of like a daddy warbox. You're like Daddy Warbach. Well, I don't know about that.

Well, I don't know about Daddy Warbucks. I mean, you do feel like a bunch of kids that live together when you're on that show for sure. And it is like a let's go to the movies. Yeah, let's put on a show. Let's put on a show. Yeah, I just, oh. Was let's go to the movies not in the stage version of Annie? That was just in the 80s.

Oh, God, I don't know. I think so. I know there were songs that weren't in the original show. It's been a long time since I've seen and when was the last time you saw, Annie? Ooh, I've seen like clips of it recently. It's been a minute for me. But I haven't watched it from the very, very beginning.

You must truly trip being around Carol Burnett so much. By the way, her performance in that. When I think about what she read and then what she did and knowing her now, like I mean, you got to

I got exactly probably two minutes with her and we took a picture because I was in drag as her. And Abe was like, I just, Abe was like, who's the creator of the show was like, she is going to get a kick out of this. She's like, and I remember he was like, can you stay in costume for like a couple hours while she gets here? And I was just like, I would do anything for her. Yeah.

And so it was like, it was like the mustache and all the stuff I had, the prostheticista underneath her whole costume. But I was like, I will sit here for three days waiting for her to come. because she is beyond a queen. And lovely and looks right in your eyes and says hold your hand. Just so great. Yep. And so I was thinking like what you're saying is so true.

She's an inventor. Yes. Like it goes beyond contributions. It is why we are able to contribute because of, you know, people like her. Yeah, I agree. And as a woman, the first show. It's like her, it's Cher who just looms large. You know what I mean?

They invented like the stand and deliver, look amazing in a fucking Bob Mackey dress. And do it your way. Do it your way. Oh, Carol. I can't believe it. I know. I just love her.

I love her so much. She's, and, you know, just like the whole, the whole, like, idea that, you know, she's become, like, obviously the antagonist of the show and, like, gets to do this whole.

So hilarious. She's, like, the nicest person in the world. And she plays someone so awful. You can tell. Do you believe in that, though? It's like, I think it was Tina, actually, who said, like, when she was trying to cast Regina George,

she was like, we need to find the nicest person in the world to come in and do this because it is truly kind people that understand and are able to walk away from and go in and out and see evil and cruelty from different interesting dimensions because it's not something they're embodying,

it's something they're exploring. Oh, wise woman. Wise woman. Always. Miss T. Faye. Wow. Two wise. And then on the Greece thing,

it's like Sandra D. turning it to Sandy is like that is the fantasy for every not just like girls but like everybody like especially for like gay guys it's like you watch Greece and yeah Danny great but I'm like it's Sandra and and it's

Rizzo but it's like it's like it's just I was gonna say let's put some respect on Stockard's name we got we love Stockard's every time but just that that's such a fucking good ensemble and so is Annie obviously but like I totally get it man like I'm just watching Greece for the first time I yeah I felt

something. Yeah, I think it's one of those things like when it's on, do you find you know every line of dialogue? It's crazy. It's crazy. You know, when Rizzo and and Kinniki are doing their thing. Hickie from Kinnikki. Yeah. Hot and Hav. Summer 11. It's like, wait a minute. Like they're talking about. Well, oh, well, well, uh, huh? I mean, grease lightning. Oh, that's a whole, that's a whole text. Greeze wagon, grease wagon, grease wagon. Grease lightning. Greece wagon. And they're like, hey, you said Greece wagon again? That was the original version when they were going to have a station wagon and just.

Well, it's Greece wagon. Daly. My high school wouldn't do Greece. Because it was so. We had a conservative superintendent. Yeah. We had a very conservative superintendent. So then you did the West Side Story?

No. So what we did was we did all these like very racially problematic shows. We did the king and I. the whiz. Okay. Like all these things that everyone, even then in like 2005

was like, hey, I don't know about those. I don't know if Tina, like, this girl I knew can be doing this thing she's doing in like this part of the king and I.

Like, I just don't know. But absolutely those were totally above board without question. And what we could not do was grease wagon. What are what?

And you know what? I think that's, that's superintended. retired and then suddenly they were doing Greece and I was like, well, damn. That's superintendent's doing Greece. Whatever he is.

Wherever he is. I hope he's doing grease. Hey, do grease. It's the new kick rocks. Do grease. What can hit the streets and do grease. You fucking loser. You want to know what my evenings actually look like?

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What I've always appreciated, because I think it's awesome that you like, and I can recognize the music in you. because what I've loved about about you always, but especially like your tenure at S&L is it felt like all the female cast members at that time were very musical. And I remember, Santa's my boyfriend. And like, that was, I believe, you, Amy and Maya. But then, you know, like Kate was musical,

80s musical. Cecily is very musical. And it just felt. Abby, Abby Elliott. Casey. Casey. You know what I mean? Like on and on and on and on.

But it's just. just felt like a really good, like, musical time because it felt like it was all of your genuine interest. Like, I would imagine, obviously, those things don't happen. And you as well. You know what I mean? Like, you're always bringing music to the show, like, and you're so capable of doing it. But I, as a fan of the show and a fan of musical comedy was always so happy that people that loved music and really wanted to perform in that way were on the show because it gives it a whole other dimension, I think. Totally. You know who oftentimes, like, bringing those pieces together were these straight boy kings

Colin Jost and John Malini like they were just like because they like musicals too luckily and then they just like they're like okay and you know Kristen can do this and like for me they're like can you sing like suddenly Seymour and I was like sure and like it's just

they just know how to like position everybody in that way. Yeah I agree but I agree about that in the show like to have that one little special thing even watching now it's like oh I bet they like rehearse this and they did their little dancing. Taryn too. Yes.

And Vanessa. Yes. Like everyone was always committing to whatever it is they were being. That was just like, when Seth was on, we said this. But like that was such a peak cast. Like I tell everyone that I believe I told you this. But I was at the episode, which was Anne Hathaway and The Killers. This was the very first, I was there in the audience.

It was the very first time you ever did the Lawrence Welk show. And I remember at the end, the Killers did like an encore. Oh, yeah. And Seth said it was the only time that the studio audience. stood up and gave a standing ovation. And I was in the audience. And I remember that felt like such a, I don't think I've ever felt the way that I felt watching you do, Lawrence Welk.

Oh my gosh. No, truly. I mean, I think it altered the course of my life. And so many people watching that didn't have to be in the room in the vicinity. But like, that was a very special cast. And that was a very special sketch and series of sketches and a moment in culture. Because it was 2008 at the time as well. And other fun details that you were sitting next.

to Emma Stone. You told me this. Yes, that is crazy. Wild. But like, what do you remember about that time? Honestly, like, career-wise, like best years of my life. Yeah. Hands down.

Hands down. Because, you know, you're, it's like you move in with these people. And then seven years later, you pack up your room and then you have to move somewhere else. But you do feel like you are living. with them, the time in between sketches, like, there'd be a day you'd have to rehearse at 9 a.m. and you'd look at the rundown and you don't have to rehearse again until like four. And you're secretly like, and then you look and see who else is off. And you all go hang out.

Yeah. And you just like, oh, it was just, it was the best time. Because I think too, feeling okay to fail was something that I had to, that's hard to do. I feel that way now in my life, to be totally honest. Yeah. But having that read through, writing something and you're like, this, no one's going to laugh at this. Yeah. This is going to be totally silent, but it's okay because you're looking around the room at

Hater and like all of these people and everyone's got things that work. Everyone's got things that don't. And you realize like, oh, that's just part of like figuring out what, what will get on or what is funny. And to be able to have a space where you can go and not do a good job and feel okay is so rare. Oh my God. Do you know what I mean? Of course.

Yeah. And I kind of embrace the times. It's funnier to sort of, it's more of a bonding experience to fail and bomb at that show. 100%. Because Celeste and I will, and Sudi and I will just like laugh. Oh my God. Remember that fucking sketch and how. was silent.

Yeah. Like there's something, there's like a, there's like a crucible you walk through in that moment. But like, how often would you feel like you were reading something before we read the room like, no one's going to laugh at this? Because I, because I, because every time. Really? Oh, my God. I would never read something and be like, this is going to kill. Sure, sure.

Because you never know. You never know. Because I think that's the other thing you learn. You can write something and be like, I think this has a shot. And it's silent. And then there's the one where you try. to pull it and they're like, sorry, it's already in the pack. And it's on the show.

And it's on the show. It's the one that you're doing. You have, I have no gauge. I have no, yeah. It's completely unpredictable because it can go through whatever, it can hit any station and land and be at the terminus of any path where it's like, it does great at read through, it does terrible at blocking, it does great at dress, it does poorly at air. That is had all that.

All that. It has, there's every permutation of that thing happens at various stages. Like my therapist and I talk about this, it's like you have so many occasions for like validation or rejection and failure. And it teaches you a lot about like how the world works, I want to say. Yeah. But I'm so surprised at this because I feel like you and Amy were talking about this on her pod where it's like, and what it is true. And I think you know this and I hope you own this. It's like you were, I think you were the.

You were the cast member to come in, fully formed, fully realized with the point of view already. I mean, I don't feel that way. That's interesting. Well, only because I learned so much and I remember, because I auditioned twice. Yeah. And I remember when they had me come back for the second one, I was like, what do you mean? I'm like, I did everything. Exactly.

I did everything. Yeah. I literally did every character that I have. Yep. And three seasons in, having a, like, breakdown being like, I've done, I've done every voice. I have nothing. Have you talked about this, the three season in thing? Like this, quote, quote breakdown?

Well, I've certainly had that thing. I think my second season, I was like, I did everything for my audition. Yeah, that's how you feel. And then you, and then that's that hump you get over with also the help of other people being like, can you play blah, blah, blah. And you're like, well, I will see. And then you end up trying or doing it. It doesn't always work.

And then you just like find new things. And then you find other ways to to find characters. Like it became not just vocal. Right. It became like physical. Like I remember I think it was I was in Paul Appel's office or James. I can't remember. But the like the don't make me sing that came from like just standing like,

let's just do something that someone stands like this. Because I was like I'm out of like I'm out of things to do or you know what I'm saying? But you know what blows my mind? And I don't think I've talked about this. I don't even think I've brought this up to you. But I was just so curious about the Rebecca Leroux. I was going to say thing, the flirting expert, which was your last season. I think one of your last update features.

I was like, how did this play a dress? And I will say, I watched back because we have the dress footage from every single episode of SNL on the server. The database blows my mind. That's the thing I will miss the most. Oh, yeah. It's just the server because it's comedy history. It's like the scripts of like more cowbell, like, like, farewell writing that on his own.

Like you see, I'm like, oh, my, like, you just, there's just so much to, it's like a library. It's a bell in the library and Beating the Beast. But Rebecca Leroux, I would say at dress, I was shocked and I'm just saying this. I don't think it really played. Oh. And then on air, you just, I don't know what you guys did. It's probably because it didn't play.

I was like, I'm going to go for it. But you figured it out within what, like 45 minutes to an hour. that's incredible. Oh, yeah, I don't, I don't remember that. Okay. It's my top three characters that you've done in the entire show. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Flirting extra Rebecca Leroux, because of, because this is, I think, one of the keys to a great update piece for me as a viewer is how, an element of it is how you guys interact with whoever the weekend update campaigner is. And the way that Rebecca Leroux, and Seth even said this on his episode of our show, was like an indictment of the girls he was dating. time was so funny because you could tell there was like a friendly like energy there that felt personal that was weirdly parisocial then for us as an audience that watches you guys

week in and week out because you could tell that was a little bit true yes in the in the way he was flustered oh my gosh but it's just i was just like noting the difference and i and i hope you don't mind me saying like i the feeling watching dress was like oh why why are they laughing at this I have no, I have no memory. Right. Oh, and I also love what you tried to impart of me and I did not take to heart, which was like, don't read like the reviews and the comments and the feedback. Because that is the thing that I think like took me a long time to get over and was like, you just have to remember it as your own experience. And the ones that are bad go through a certain synapse. They print out and they stay in a file.

And you can access it at any point and you can see every word. and the good ones go away. And I was, I mean, I'm aging myself. Did we have the internet when I was on there? But like, did we kind of did? But like there wasn't. There'd be like two reviews. Yeah, but wait, did we have?

Yes, yes. Definitely. Certainly. I was on in 1964. I mean, I know we had the internet, but it wasn't so much like blogging and social media. That's what I'm saying. I mean, of course we had like computers.

But did we have the internet? Please. Can that be the title of this? Did we have the internet? And I never watched the show when I was on. That's incredible. Because I didn't want to like see what I looked at. There are most of the things I've done I've never seen.

Really? Bridesmaids? I've seen bridesmaids. Yeah. Because I just mean like on SNL. Yeah. Yeah. But I couldn't watch it the next. day or or watch it in between for I couldn't I couldn't do that that's holding something very sacred

in terms of like the theater aspect of it yeah yeah that's yeah that's cool you're doing a live show in front of an audience they're the ones you know but then yes millions of people are watching yes yes yes yes the energy when you're there when you're on stage your first thought isn't this is on TV yeah you're like oh I can see Jenna I can see the crowd. I can see the people in their costumes waiting to come in. It feels very, it is. It's like theater. It's like theater. And the good thing that got me and I've talked about this with Matt last week in like my exit interview. It's like the thing that destroyed me was just looking out on my last sketch during my last sketch and seeing basically the whole staff show up. And I was like, oh,

this. And it's and it had nothing to do with what was going to maybe be said about it online or what the reviews would be. It was just spatially in the room. That's what, it totally healed all of these wounds from the past seven years where I would like really care about what people thought and when I realized what I would tell

what I would tell the new cast on my way out what I told them was like because they would approach me and they were like how do you this is really weird like how do you deal with this? And I was like

there's three audiences who are watching it's the people in the room and kind of the people at home it's the internet which is this like voice that just wants to, is incentivized to say something like that takes it down or devalues it.

And then there's the people who make decisions have the power to make decisions for you who can like help you materially find interesting things or whatever. And only two of those audiences matter. Like the internet one doesn't really matter. Because if you don't look in some ways, it doesn't, it just doesn't exist. Right, exactly. I agree. Yeah.

Which is, yeah. I remember when when we were talking. on set of Palm Royale, you were like, you said to me, like, I knew I would love Bowen because I feel like we like the same stuff. And I, what did you mean by that? And what do you guys think you have in comment? Because I think it meant beyond comedy. Well, I, it was a sense of humor for sure, but also just you and I interacting in between sketches. Yes. I feel like we didn't even have to like say much. And we were just laughing. And I just felt a. it's kind of even hard to describe.

It's like when you, probably when you guys met, right? It's like you just feel like, oh. Hey. Hey. There's nonverbal stuff. And also being on that show, you do feel like you're already in a little like army together. Yeah. You know?

So. This is my thing. This is maybe what you meant. This is what it means to me, which was the first time you came back was COVID Christmas, December 2020. Oh, God. And it was, and Duolipa was a musical guest. Marjorie. This was what class.

Classic. People don't talk about this one as much as they should. I'm not even talking about the sketch. I'm talking about. Yes. Kristen and I watching Duolipa sing on stage and us going, oh my God, that's Duolipa. Yeah. And we were like, full on. And my other thought was like, we're like the only people in the world watching live music right now. Yeah.

Yeah. That was levitating, right? That was levitating. Oh, that hat. Don't start now. It was amazing. I loved both those performances. I danced my face off watching her every time.

I loved it. I went to go see her radical optimism tour. and it was really great. And I watched this like long, the swiftologist, I watched like this, there's this YouTuber who was like, doing long form videos about like,

you know, like pop music. And he was like, Duelipa is a category five pop star. This means that she will, things move around her. You know what I mean? Like, it was a not nice. No, no, it was very nice.

It was basically saying like, it's like there's certain levels of artist where they don't necessarily have to worry about proving themselves ever. It's just like they can come and sort of like, you know, decide what's going to be the tone based on moves they make. I fully agree with that. The argument was that she has gotten to this place

where she's always going to be reliably duelipa. Yes. Because she's duelipa. Yeah. Yeah. And she's really good. Really good. Same birthday.

What sign is that? It's a Leo Virgo cusp. Leo Virgo cuss. Yum, yum, yum. That's really, really good. Is it? What is it? August 22nd.

22nd. Yeah. 822? Mm-hmm. Why do I feel like that's an auspicious day? Just feels nice. Because it's a double, a double ditch? I don't know.

22 is my favorite number and I have a two. What's my number number? Stop. What about it? Well, it's my birthday. Well, yes. But also, I see it. I see it when I need to see it.

Wow. It's an angel number. Right now. I needed to see that today. Oh. Maybe I needed to see it too. Yeah. I think I like the, um,

Well, it was my baseball jersey growing up. Oh. I didn't know that. Yep. This is beautiful. See, we're all connected. We're all connected. And people are like, is that a Taylor Swift tattoo?

And I'm like, no, it's not. But when I went to the artist tour and she sang 22, I definitely went like this. You for sure did. I kind of thought when you said you liked all this, like, cool, all the same stuff. I was like, well, they both like cool music. I feel like you guys are both, like, cool when it comes to music. I've fallen off. I've kind of fallen off too.

Yeah, but I bet even that is cool. Not knowing. You guys like, like, cool bands and stuff. No, I'm just listening to, like, 80s, Japanese city pop. That's all I listen to now. I'm still streaming espresso. That's okay. Think about me, I mean, not old.

Doesn't get old. I feel like they famously did an espresso sketch, but I feel like if espresso is on when you're on SNL, you do something with espresso. What do you mean? I feel like you do a character that some, That dances to espresso or whatever. Okay.

Okay. I'm inspired by you. And that's why I literally came up with the Robin, the Ridler's assistant thing. I was like... That was so fun. I am inspired. We are inspired by you when we like to be your writers. Oh my God.

That's the nice thing you were saying. Because when we pitched Rob, because we had to get on Zoom with you and like, hitch this idea and we were like... Pitching a character of Kristen Wig. We're like, we're pitching a character to Kristen Wig. And there's a chance she is like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Which would have been really hard. That would have been really hard.

But you immediately, like, snapped in. And you were like, oh, my God, Robin. I get it. It's funny. I think this is what it is. Yes. Okay. Great.

Yes. We were like, yes. And then it was like, we were like working on this with you. Oh my God. And then another thing that I will never forget is, remember the four versions of the presenter copy we had for the Emmys that one year? Because we weren't sure if Maya was going to make it because she was sick. Seth was maybe not going to be able to do it because she like wasn't flying in.

It was me. It was just me. I can't believe this. It was me, you, Seth and Maya, presenting, like, walking up, doing, like, a bit about Lauren. Yes. I'm winning too many Emmys or something. Yes, yes, yes.

But you and I, Kristen and I were in that dressing room. With our pencils. With our pencils. While Matt Bowmer was sitting on the other corner, like, wanting to say hi to us and we're like, we're in the middle of something. Matt, just one second. Well, I'm sure we said hello. We said hello.

We weren't. We weren't rude. He's the nicest guy. He's the nicest. No, we all said hi. But you and I were like locked in. We got to get to, because guess what? We got to rewrite this.

We had to rewrite it. Shows in 10. Not that we were given like bad copy, but the show, no, it was just like we, there's four different versions where it was if, if Lauren didn't win the Emmy because it was on the category before. Because it was after, if he didn't win, if he did win. If Maya couldn't be there. We had four different versions of that copy ready to go. Yeah.

And you and I had to like sit there and like rewrite all. I was like, I can't believe I'm. doing four versions of presenter copy with Kristen. I was like, this is surreal. It was so fun. But it was so fun. You're the best. You're our hero.

I just like, and I feel like on Palm Royale too, you're so like, it was just. Thanks for ringing it back. No, I was just like, what I was like,

the coolest part of it was just like being on set and seeing you like try to figure out or finesse certain things. It's just, it's just really cool. Well,

you were in credible and I got so many texts about how funny you and great and Abe obviously just loves you. I had so much fun working with you. And even in that scene with Kai in the bedroom and you and I just kind of like running around and doing her own thing.

I think that was my favorite. My favorite day was us behind the ledge talking. And I don't know, there were several favorite days. Doing the like, come to the tub. That was all you. Oh, that was great. That was all Matt. He just started doing it.

He just started going, come to the tub. And everyone else was. It's a great atmosphere. And also it feels like a really fun playful atmosphere where you could come up with something like that. And you would be like entrusted as a member of the group to like pitch something like that. But it's also kind of I had never experienced that energy with something that had that much budget. I was like, wow. Like this is like, because we were talking earlier about being on set, like that's a big old show.

And to still have that playful energy, I think is a testament to you and to Abe and to all the cast and all the departments that provide. the malleability for something like that because that wasn't in that wasn't in the script at all. Yeah. Yeah. And then it became the whole entry point into our meat cute. Oh. Which was blessed. It's a period comedy with with just a sense of fun and kitchiness and just it's so delicious.

It's like we don't it's a unicorn. It's a rare thing. And like I'm so happy it's it exists. I can't believe you guys are both in it doing. a two-hander episode all the way through. Like, I'm telling you, I was watching it. I was like, this is heaven. Like, I'm these two people that I love.

Anyway, Palm Royal, it's out. Let's move on to, I don't think so, honey. Palm Royal is out is out. It's out. No, I'm saying, Paul Maria, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just sorry, I'm being cursed. It's, it's, it's, by the time this airs the whole season. It's officially all out now, right?

I don't know what day it is. It doesn't matter. It's out. It's out. Thumbs up. I told you. I don't know what's going on. Oh, my God.

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engage. Here we go. Oh my gosh. Yeah. This is exciting. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many's time starts it now. I don't think so honey my fat thumbs because I can't send a text without it indenting wildly. And I do think it's because they're fat. Because I don't think so honey that it's that I have to utilize my fingers differently. I think they're just a little chunker. And I'm telling you like it's impossible for me on the first try to get a text right. It always looks like a haiku when I text. Am I wrong or am I wrong? It'll be on like four different lines.

I'm wrong. So I don't think so, honey, my thumbs, because sometimes you need to use your thumbs to, you know, engage, comment, address. And I got my chunkers in the way. And I'm trying to get things done here. And then I think, you know what? Maybe your thumbs are trying to tell you something. 15 seconds. Put the phone down.

Oh. Don't even pick up the phone. Your thumbs, it's ever. It's actually saying you were revolving out. Five seconds. Put the phone down. My thumbs are getting bigger and bigger. I think all of our brains are getting smaller and smaller.

And I think that is a correlation. I don't think so, honey, that we ignore this. If your thumbs are too fat to type, maybe it's because your body is doing you a favor by evolving out of engagement. That's one minute. If your thumbs are too fat, natural selection will be good to you. That's what you're saying.

If you can see them from the front, wait until you see them from the back. That is a line about thumbs. I don't want you to talk badly about your thumbs. I think that has beautiful hands. By the way, your thumbs are on the thinner side. You think so? But here's the thing. The same exact way.

I believe if you make your text bigger, you know how you can make your text bigger? I think doesn't the keyboard get bigger? No, it can't possibly. There's only limited real estate. But you get, it's angle. I'm looking at our thumbs and we have the same size thumb. Guys, I think my thumb is bigger than yours. When I was 13, I thought that I was gay.

Match up to. No, you have a beautiful, beautiful thumb. No, we're way big of three. Three beautiful thumbs. But do you find, do you find that this is a problem you face as well? Do you want to know something? What? Sometimes I text with these fingers.

Stop it now. That's chic. I saw a woman do it. And I said, I'm going to start doing that. I want to be like Mike. And that woman was... My friend Jessica.

She holds her phone like this and she goes like this. That's nice. Like an instrument. Is she sending like important text though? Oh yeah. She's a boss. Oh yeah. She's not using her thumbs.

That's very 2020. It's very 2000 and late. It's very 2000 and late. Jessica, Jessica Simpson? No. Not Jessica Simpson. You guys haven't hung out in a while. Jessica Simpson texts.

I bet she's text like this. Hey, Siri, send a text to Ashley Simpson. Hey, sister. Was just wondering how you were doing today. Send. I love the Simpson. And then Ashley Simpson responds like this. Hey, fuck her.

I'm a rebel. Just kidding. This is like more their 2004 personas that I'm sure they've both grown, changed, evolved or not. And that would be fine because they were perfect already. You would have written a killer fanfic about the Simpsons. Who says I didn't? Who says I did it under a pseudonym? I didn't.

I have something. And I hope. I hope to. This enacts change. I don't think that you should judge it. Just let it do what it's going to do. Mine's not going to be. This is going out into the Wild West.

If it's going to enact change, that's what it's supposed to do. I think it will. Just don't be disappointed. I think it should. Okay. Thank you. This is Boen Yang's. I don't think so, honey.

His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The word. squeegee. Because the thing that it is should not be called that. It should be called a glass

scraper, a water shovel, a wipe downer. Wipe downer. Who came up with squeegee? Who pointed at that? Because the linguistic thing is the concept should match the name, right?

There's a disc next there. 30 seconds left. Squidgeee should be a dog toy, a children's game. My name. A stress ball. Matt's name. Yeah, a little pet name for something. Your loved one.

Oh, I squeegee. I'm squeegee. Instead, it's the most uncute thing in the world. 15 seconds. A wide rubbery thing to like wipe down your windshields or your showers. I don't understand. Five seconds. I think we really should decouple Squeegee the word from Squeegee the thing and just take a new

pass set. at those names. That's one minute. Maybe we name everything. I love the word squeegee, but I do wonder if it should be something else. Like it feels like it should be what a sponge is called. Yeah. A sponge should be a squeegee.

Yes. This is a squeegeegy motion. Yeah. Or a verb. Like that's what you do to a sponge. Yeah. You squeege. I squeege.

That sounds. Well, did you squeegee it out because it's still. Is that sponge wet? Give it a squeege. Give it a squeege. Oh, you want me to do it? See, this is very James Anderson. Hey, could you give a little squeege?

Instead of squeeze. My name's Janelle Squeege. Janelle Squeege. No, one of his final names that never saw the light of day during his final season was Yolanda Releasings. Yolanda Releasings. That's like beginning, that's like Ms. Beginning's Chang. Yolanda releasing. Yolanda.

Releasing. Releasing. Yeah, the gerent, releaseings. Like, the noun. Like, it's a noun. Releasing is a noun. Like, that's so weird. Anyway, I do think, like, also in the James Anderson canon is something like squeegee St. Regis.

Squeegee St. Regis. You know what I mean? Like, that's like something that he would float around. Of course. Squeegee Adams. What a talent. With, like, three Ds. Are you ready?

Yes. Okay. So I just start by saying, I don't think so, honey. We're going to say, we're going to say. Time's down. Okay. Hold on. I don't think so.

Oh, hold on. Oh, no. Oh, okay. This is Kristen Wiggs. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. I need snack companies, preferably chips and popcorn to stop creating flavors.

Yeah. I, back in the day, you wanted to get a popcorn. You get a plane. You get a cheese. You get a caramel. Now you've got the truffles. You've got the herbs. It's too much confusion.

I get grocery store confusion. It's aisles and aisles. There's chips. There's salsa syrup. There's too many. But here's what I'm saying is where are they going? If people don't buy them, where are they going? Are they going into a landfill?

Oh. And there's too much. There's too many cans drinks. Keep naming them. There's too many canned drinks. Too many sparkling things with flavors and probiotics. There's protein everywhere. There's protein in your popcorn.

There's too many flavors. Don't stop me. The aisles are too long. It's an aisle on one side, an aisle on the other. With cracker flavors, chip flavors, pretzel flavors, there's too many flavors. Sweets and salties and savories. Stop. Because I don't think so many.

Because I don't think so, honey. Okay. I'll tell you where they go. Tell me, because there's two. I agree with you. One thousand percent. It's because you're not a part of the community that engages in this. and I'm telling you there is one.

My, our friend Greta, hosts a party every year the night before Thanksgiving, which is called Chipsgiving. It is a time when new flavors? Everyone at the party that is invited brings like a artisanal,

some sort of bespoke flavor of chip. And everyone comes and they present the chip that they brought. And they said, the reason I've chosen this chip is this reason. Everyone tries the chip. Now, there are sometimes as many as like,

35 people at this party, which means you're eating a lot of potato chips. And I have heard the next day that people are more hungover than after any New Year's Eve, after any Christmas Eve, after any 4th of July because of the amount of salt. Oil and salt. So make that a holiday. Make the chip companies. Un officially it is. Wait, wait till Thanksgiving. Wait to see our new flavors and then make it like a thing at Chipsgiving. So we don't have to, you know, and then you like a flavor. And then you go to it. It's like, oh, they don't make that anymore. Then there's a purpose to it is what is what you need. It's gone. Oh, because now they've introduced like hot, hot, hot, hot, saracha.

Oh, it's like, cookie dough fiery hot. I'm telling you, you would not believe the kinds of chips. And it's like, it gives me anxiety now to know, I have not been to the party to stop. Well, you could just lean in. We'll get you invited to the party. I'm just nervous. We're snacking too much as a country. I'm going to bring, I'm going to bring something else. To the table. Yeah. Too many beverage flavors? That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. You would include beverages in the can when I was saying in the can. Oh, the can. I see. But beverage flavors, correct. What is salsa syrup? Oh, I just made that up. Oh, I made that up as a flavor of chip.

Yeah. Like a maple salsa. That sounds great. Maple salsa jalapeno? That's the problem. That sounds good to you? People sit in rooms like this and make jokes and then they go, wait. Wait a minute.

And they make jokes. Still Pickle Chip? No, you're not off. On the market tomorrow. Yeah. It's guaranteed there's already every brand of chip has all that. But this being said, what is your favorite chip? Like what?

Yeah. I like a cool ranch. Cool ranch Dorito. Sometimes they taste a bit. Hmm. What's the, there's no other way to say this. Tell me. Comey.

There was no other way to say it. There isn't another way to say it. Come smells like fish. Say that. Doesn't come smell like fish? What does cum smell like? I don't know what comes. It smells like cool ranch.

I don't know who you're talking to, she said. I don't know who you're asking about what comes off. Never made that connection. Well, you're not boating. That's why they call them Bowen. Cump salsa syrup. Come salsa syrup. Cough sauce to syrup.

I just don't enjoy it anymore. That's fine. The cool ranch, you mean? Well, now we can't. Or just. The cool ranch. I like a ridgies. I like a traditional ridges.

I like it. What's ridges? Ruffles. Ruffles. Ruggies. You know, ridges. I'm not a ridger. Oh, I love Ridge. And I also say, like, I like, I'll tell you what I really don't like is all the flavors of Oreo.

To me, I think Oreo is Oreo. They have flavors of Oreo? Even Lady Gaga. She came out with a chromatica Oreo and I was like, I don't know because now I feel the need to support the legend, but I don't like this Oreo. I like a mint, a mint Oreo.

I love a mint Oreo. We're about to go to Japan. Wait till you try a macho Oreo. Oh, yeah, that sounds good. That sounds good. Yeah. Have you been to Japan? No, but it's my dream.

I feel that you would, and me, but don't you think as someone who's been there, like I feel like, people tell me that all the time. The kids would love it. I would love to take them at some point. when they're a little older. Yeah. They're already 16.

As we said. 36. That's the proper age. To take your kids. 36. You really? This is a huge conversation starter though, this chips thing.

I'm not just, thank you for bringing that. It's just, it overwhelms me. People are thinking that they're not talking about it. It overwhelms me when I go and I'm like, I just want to get like a chip. Yeah.

Yeah. And you can't. Even the thick. Now, there's lentil chips. There's lentil chips. They sure are. I'm making lentil chips. That's nice.

It's a lot of beans. Protein, protein, protein in the popcorn. People want a healthy option. I know. And I know you're saying kind of as a joke, but maybe not that the aisles are too long. But this is my experience when I go to the grocery store now. I look at the chip aisle.

I get so overwhelmed. Me too. I don't even, my eye doesn't know where to land. I just move on. I don't even buy a chip, and that's robbing me of a chip. It is. You know what you should do?

In the names, in the words of your character from Barb and Star, you could just get one of every chip and make a super. a suicide. When you have too many options, you buy less. That is true. I remember hearing this on some sort of NPR something. Well, then you know it's good.

They did a study. You're going to cut this. This is boring. It was like a farmer's market of like jams. And when she had three types of jams, like sold out. When she had like 10 types of jams, people were like. I don't know. And then they walked away.

Yeah. Also because when I think that this is true, when there was a lot of options. lot of options, when there's a lot of options, I do think you in your head question, well, can these all be good? Right. Or am I getting the right one? What if I don't get the right one?

It's like when you go to a restaurant and there's only the six entree options, you're like, well, I know these are all curated. Lovely girls. Whereas when you go to the cheesecake factory and there's nothing against the cheesecake factory here. You're just a big menu. It takes you much, well, clearly, not just much, much longer to decide because of all the options, but you're like, now, what's the area of expertise here? You know what I'm saying?

And that is overwhelming. And then you think, I've ordered wrong, and then comes the negative self-talk. Yeah. I can't even go out to dinner. What's wrong with me? I should have got what they had. Yeah. I'm going to go to the grocery store and get some chips.

I'm going home. No, just kidding. I get to the grocery store. I look at the aisle. I'm out. I'm going home. Empty-handed. Hungry.

I'm going to bed hungry. There was too much to eat. I'm going to bed hungry. Okay. This is a nightmare. Wait, I want to say because I feel like we only breezingly mentioned

bridesmaids and Barb and Star. And I also wanted to say, you mentioned Hayter earlier, the duet that is the skeleton twins should not be forgotten. You guys were fantastic.

in that. And I feel like it was such an amazing, like, little hint for people that, like, saw that movie and, like, know that movie of what was to come for both of you guys, which is you're both phenomenal actors. Like, he's so, he's so brilliant. And I feel like you guys were obviously, like, MVP's at that show you were on it, which is saying something because everyone was an MVP, but you guys together amazing. And I feel like, you know, he's obviously done what he's done. And you, like, have just continued to like grow and show your versatility as an actress. I will never stop reminding people of that last episode of the first season of Palm Royale when you're on stage and everything's happening and you're just, your instrument as an actor is so varied and you're in such

control of it. And I feel like that shouldn't get lost. And I'm not surprised at all that every actor got a list of everyone that they possibly could vote for in a leading or supporting capacity. at the actor awards and your name came out as one of the five because you are that good. I don't know what to say. That's really that's really. That means a lot coming from you. Thank you. I don't know what to say.

I believe with my full heart and I know you feel the same. I feel the exact thing. I was like I. Well, I think there's actually flaws. I've got issues with your work. I would describe it as cummy. Yeah, very cool rant.

Very cool ranch. If you gather my meaning. It's, it's incredible. No, and I will just say like, and Melissa coming to the. show this season, McCarthy, I was just like, oh, God, Groundlings people. Actors. Actors.

And let's talk about Rose Byrne. Oh, congratulations. Let's see her get some hardware. Let's do that because she is such a brilliant, obviously, comedic actors, but dramatic actor. Oh, yeah. Can do anything. And has been.

Can do anything. I mean, Melissa, too, my God. Yes. Like, oh, I'm just, I'm so happy that she won this night. Oh, my God. You must be feeling like... I did. I teared up. Oh, man.

She's so good. And she does such great stuff. And she's such a good person. And I don't know. I'm just, I root for her in a way because her talent, I think, is just... Boundless, boundless. She's exemplary of what it means to be versatile,

hardworking, like always getting better, always interesting. I remember her from Wicker Park. Yeah. Uh, Wicker Park. The Josh Hartnett vehicle. Wicker Park. And I'm just saying she's been around

and doing it and kicking ass. I'm not surprised at all to see it pay off. So, so happy. Yeah. But also, some of my biggest laughs in that movie are your guys have passive aggression at each other. Like, I think people change.

I don't think people do. Right? To act like we didn't like each other. It's really hard. I mean, it's perfect. But again, it's like you can, you did it so well because you had a lens on it because you could probably talk about the ways in which you wouldn't like each other

because you like each other. Right, right, right. And was this cut? Was this from the trailer? Was it cut from the final film where the first time you guys meet? She goes, oh, did you just come from work? Did that make it to the final film? I don't remember.

Someone literally said that to me in like an earnest way. Because we went to Sarah Sherman's special premiere and we literally did all. I mean, maybe that's why they said it, but we all did come from, we did not look like glammed. Yeah, but that is basically saying, oh, did you look like shit? Yeah. She was like, she said to me the line from, like Rose Burns line from bridesmaids. I was like, oh, hi, did you come from, oh, wow, did you come from work? And I was like, yeah, but don't worry about it.

She knows the owner. I know the owner. You do. The impact of that line in the theater I will never experience. It's the fun. It is the funniest. Fuck, like we're going there. Like, yeah.

That's when the movie turns. Yes. You know, anyway. Oh, my God, you guys. We kept you here for so long. We're so sorry. We love you. So, we're very fine.

I'm looking at the clock. How long have we talked? Like five hours. 20. I think this is a great length. I think this is a great length. Hey, if you think so. I would take out a minute.

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