Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - On The Seventh Day of Culture... June 20th, 1975: JAWS Eats The Girls (RE-RELEASE)
Episode Date: January 5, 2022This is a re-release of a CLASSIC Las Culturistas episode:This episode, which is really a prayer, is a time capsule recorded just hours before the release of Tayla Swiff's evermore. It is also going ...to go down in history as one of the most thought-provoking discussions of all podcast time. The central question? Is it weirder that Bowen hasn't seen Jaws (despite having once played him/her on stage) or that Matt hasn't seen The Sound of Music (despite being Matt)? What was intended as a discussion on the cultural impact of Jaws eating, nay, devouring the girls quickly turns into an exploration on pop culture's impact relative to location and broader cultural exposure. Also, the famous score of the blockbuster film as a "sexual call to the dance floor", how the hoopla around the movie took sharks to the top of the charts, and the reveal that neither of the boys have seen The Godfather. All this, Disney's recent announcements, the incumbent "stan" vs. the challenger "simp", and a brief, tasteful moment of appreciation for Carrie Underwood. You're gonna need a bigger...hug :) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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                                         On Thanksgiving Day 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
                                         
    
                                         And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
                                         
                                         Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him.
                                         
                                         Or stay with his relatives in Miami.
                                         
                                         Imagine that your mother died
                                         
                                         trying to get you to freedom.
                                         
                                         Listen to Chess Peace, the
                                         
                                         Elian Gonzalez story on the
                                         
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                                         Look, Matt.
                                         
                                         Oh, I see. Wow.
                                         
                                         Bowen, look over there.
                                         
                                         Wow, is that culture?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Oh, my goodness.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
    
                                         Las Culturistas.
                                         
                                         Ding dong.
                                         
                                         Las Culturistas calling.
                                         
                                         The seventh day.
                                         
                                         The seventh day of culture.
                                         
                                         We're finishing out the first week, or we're starting the second week.
                                         
                                         It's the second half of Days of Culture.
                                         
                                         See, here's the deal.
                                         
    
                                         If you're thinking of a week as in seven days, then baby, we're closing out the second week. It's the second half of Days of Culture. See, here's the deal. If you're thinking of a week as in seven days,
                                         
                                         then baby, we're closing out the first week.
                                         
                                         But if you're thinking about like a weekday,
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I really don't know how it works out.
                                         
                                         Can I tell you something?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         I'm a little kerbobble.
                                         
    
                                         And you're fanning yourself.
                                         
                                         Reader, he is fanning himself.
                                         
                                         What's up?
                                         
                                         Well, a few things happened today.
                                         
                                         One, I ordered a candle in the mail
                                         
                                         and I opened it up and the glass was broken everywhere.
                                         
                                         And now my, my, my Fraser for a candle is not usable.
                                         
                                         I'm so sorry.
                                         
    
                                         And so the other thing is Hans isn't in the chat today.
                                         
                                         Why does that perturb you so?
                                         
                                         Well, I just like his energy.
                                         
                                         Like I like when he like, you know, can chimes in and you know, you're in love.
                                         
                                         Just whenever I have feelings for him.
                                         
                                         So do I.
                                         
                                         Today, do you know who texted us pictures of his wedding?
                                         
                                         You bitch.
                                         
    
                                         Darcy Carden texted us pictures of his wedding.
                                         
                                         Gorgeous wedding.
                                         
                                         And he and his wife look so stunning together.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So wonderful.
                                         
                                         We miss him.
                                         
                                         We just miss him is all.
                                         
                                         So I'm happy that you share this with me.
                                         
    
                                         I knew there was like a funk and now we can put a name to it.
                                         
                                         It's just like Hans not being here.
                                         
                                         Hans Funk.
                                         
                                         Also today I'm a little bit like sort of like, I don't know what to expect because today
                                         
                                         like we're only a few hours away from Evermore.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah.
                                         
                                         We're recording this on December 10th.
                                         
                                         We're three hours away from Evermore being released.
                                         
    
                                         How, how?
                                         
                                         Well, I wanted to ask you like, what's the deal?
                                         
                                         Like, I feel like we usually would be, we'd be so excited wanted to ask you like what's the deal like i
                                         
                                         feel like we usually would be we'd be so excited but i feel like there's some trepidation in the
                                         
                                         air are you trepidatious a little bit me too oh no well i mean i texted you before and i was like
                                         
                                         oh my god can you believe and your energy was no no no no that was just i'm so sorry gruna it was
                                         
                                         no but honestly i I feel the same.
                                         
                                         Really? No, you don't have to.
                                         
    
                                         Don't take on mine.
                                         
                                         No, I'm telling you.
                                         
                                         I wouldn't describe the way I feel about her album coming out as excited.
                                         
                                         I would say I'm trepidatious.
                                         
                                         I'm borderline concerned.
                                         
                                         I don't want these to be folklore b-sides.
                                         
                                         Okay, and thank you for saying that.
                                         
                                         My queen, queen. I don't want these to be folklore b-sides and thank you for saying that my queen
                                         
    
                                         because I think
                                         
                                         folklore is so special
                                         
                                         truly folklore came at a time
                                         
                                         think about it
                                         
                                         middle of July
                                         
                                         we were all
                                         
                                         we were all sort of thawing from
                                         
                                         the initial quarantine trauma
                                         
    
                                         and then
                                         
                                         it felt like an exhale.
                                         
                                         It felt like an exhale.
                                         
                                         It made me think like it was...
                                         
                                         I'm still processing it, honestly.
                                         
                                         I think...
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         I don't think we're the only Swifties
                                         
    
                                         who feel this way.
                                         
                                         I think a lot of Taylor Swift Nation,
                                         
                                         Taylor Nation feels this way.
                                         
                                         I mean, a lot of Taylor Nation,
                                         
                                         I think is sort of, of course,
                                         
                                         we're always fever.
                                         
                                         And by the way,
                                         
                                         when this episode comes out,
                                         
    
                                         by the time people hear this,
                                         
                                         the verdict will be out on whether or not this was folklore B-side city
                                         
                                         or another gorgeous creation.
                                         
                                         And I believe that we're very sort of susceptible to getting both.
                                         
                                         So I'm praying for art.
                                         
                                         I'm always praying for art.
                                         
                                         I see later one time I walked in on Matt Rogers on his knees.
                                         
                                         On my knees.
                                         
    
                                         Reflecting, if you can believe it.
                                         
                                         Hands to the floor.
                                         
                                         I was.
                                         
                                         And then he raised them to the sky.
                                         
                                         And then I raised them.
                                         
                                         I did.
                                         
                                         I raised them high.
                                         
                                         And it was only then that I was able to really call out.
                                         
    
                                         Art.
                                         
                                         Like, I'm praying for art.
                                         
                                         Please, art.
                                         
                                         And that day, what happened?
                                         
                                         Folklore. That was the day of folklore. If it's good,
                                         
                                         know that I prayed after this episode,
                                         
                                         and if it's bad, know that I chose to save
                                         
                                         my prayers. Girl, you
                                         
    
                                         might as well throw a dart to
                                         
                                         the board and
                                         
                                         use up one of these prayers on one of the
                                         
                                         50 new Star wars things that have
                                         
                                         been announced today did you see this i think that some of them show potential i think that
                                         
                                         some of them show art potential and i might pray for them such as the rosario dawson ah so i saw
                                         
                                         ahs in that font and i was like is this an america star wars american horror story and then i was
                                         
                                         like oh okay okay baby it's a Rosario Dawson vehicle.
                                         
    
                                         You, as someone who is a Star Wars fan
                                         
                                         and as someone who,
                                         
                                         well, you just said something so interesting,
                                         
                                         which is some of them show potential,
                                         
                                         which like, is that what we're settling for now?
                                         
                                         Like 12 new products get announced
                                         
                                         and we're like, yeah, some of those look good.
                                         
                                         Shouldn't they all look good?
                                         
    
                                         Well, at a certain point, it's just going to be like,
                                         
                                         somebody said this on Twitter today, but it's just going to be like, somebody said this on Twitter
                                         
                                         today, but it's just going to be like TV
                                         
                                         and Star Wars. It's like regular TV
                                         
                                         and then Star Wars. It's like Marvel.
                                         
                                         And it's just, I was kind of
                                         
                                         shocked when I saw it. I mean, literally
                                         
                                         it is, but it feels even more.
                                         
    
                                         They're taking over
                                         
                                         completely. I mean, it's like the universes are going to be
                                         
                                         created. I think we got to
                                         
                                         be careful with this Disney girl.
                                         
                                         This Disney girl walked in and we have been suspicious.
                                         
                                         This young girl, Disney, like this is my,
                                         
                                         this is sort of goes back to my concern though
                                         
                                         with the Taylor Evermore of it all.
                                         
    
                                         Cause it's just like, is this just going to,
                                         
                                         are these going to be actual stories that we care about?
                                         
                                         Because like we're able to invest in actual,
                                         
                                         real, good new content
                                         
                                         or is it going to feel like star wars besides yeah you shouldn't give just because you can give
                                         
                                         like what you give as yes i want to say as an artist or as a conglomerate should be should be
                                         
                                         i don't know like i don't i don't want i don't need star wars for the sake
                                         
                                         of star wars i i think that that's that's the point that i'm making don't give me b-sides of
                                         
    
                                         the shit i already liked like i'd rather maybe this is just me be a someone that discovers
                                         
                                         something new i also saw they're making new indiana jones stuff um what i what i thought
                                         
                                         was cool was like i hadn't heard of a lot of the characters before but then some of it is like land right you know what i mean and this that the other thing
                                         
                                         which is cool donald will be i think let's go back to evermore um i will say before before we
                                         
                                         move on from star wars though peripherally related um marvel but i am getting excited
                                         
                                         about this new spider-man movie though. Oh yeah.
                                         
                                         Because it sounds like a sort of drag event.
                                         
                                         Doctor Strange is doing like another sequel.
                                         
    
                                         That's like about multiverses even more than the original, but then,
                                         
                                         but you know how like Jamie Foxx got signed on to this third one with Tom
                                         
                                         Holland.
                                         
                                         He was the villain in the amazing Spider-Man two.
                                         
                                         So he was, so he was so he was um andrew garfield spider-man villain
                                         
                                         and then alfred for alfred melina to come back in as toby mcguire spider-man villain they're
                                         
                                         they're taught like someone picked up a hint in spider-man 2 like jay jameson is trying to come
                                         
                                         up with a name for doc ock and then someone pitches him dr strange and he goes that's already
                                         
    
                                         been taken so like people are like in Marvel world are like
                                         
                                         wait a minute that's a hint or that's not a hint
                                         
                                         it's just like a really clever time where it's like
                                         
                                         Doctor Strange already exists in
                                         
                                         Tobey Maguire universe so
                                         
                                         that's so that means that there's portals
                                         
                                         for Doctor Strange in Tom
                                         
                                         Holland universe to open a portal multiverse
                                         
    
                                         portal there for
                                         
                                         Alfred Molina to come in and
                                         
                                         Jamie Foxx to come in from um uh andrew garfield
                                         
                                         multiverse but then potentially there's rumors that toby and kirsten are signing on for this one
                                         
                                         i saw that kirsten was rumored and that so was emma stone and i know zendaya is like currently
                                         
                                         shooting it would be like an avengers style thing but it's like I would I like that kind of is very
                                         
                                         cool to me no it appeals to me I mean
                                         
                                         look I love yes I love I love a stunt
                                         
    
                                         cast moment like we just talked about
                                         
                                         on our episode with Joel and Mitra when
                                         
                                         someone comes in and they helicopter
                                         
                                         moment yes that's what you need and so
                                         
                                         a full movie that's about that yeah I
                                         
                                         just think it.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         Speaking.
                                         
    
                                         No, no, no.
                                         
                                         I'm just like Kirsten as MJ again.
                                         
                                         Next to Zendaya as MJ.
                                         
                                         Get out.
                                         
                                         Forget it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, please.
                                         
                                         I mean, yeah.
                                         
                                         Cut back from us earlier saying,
                                         
    
                                         I don't know about Disney to us fully simping for fucking Spider-Man
                                         
                                         for all the Spider-Man cash cows to come together.
                                         
                                         Whatever. We're dumb. Can I ask a question before we move on what is another word because i feel like simping came in
                                         
                                         okay but what does it mean it's the same grammar rules as stan it's like i simp you in that shirt
                                         
                                         a hundred percent i understand what it means and how it's used and i'm ready to start doing that
                                         
                                         but i as someone who is in the culture,
                                         
                                         want to know where the culture I'm using comes from.
                                         
                                         So Stan, I know, comes from Eminem's song Stan,
                                         
    
                                         but where does Sim come from?
                                         
                                         I don't know the etymology on it fully.
                                         
                                         I think it's more...
                                         
                                         I honestly am embracing it as a more general use.
                                         
                                         Hopefully, I think, I believe it's like,
                                         
                                         maybe it's not meant to be this functionally,
                                         
                                         but I feel like it is.
                                         
                                         You were very early on the whole Stan is using Stan.
                                         
    
                                         An M and M term is a bummer for queer people.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         And I still do it because it's become so,
                                         
                                         but I think simp is our way out.
                                         
                                         It's our little exit strategy.
                                         
                                         It's our hatch door.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I think,
                                         
    
                                         I think you can do that.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So,
                                         
                                         and I'll be honest with you.
                                         
                                         Stan has become like, um, a part of the vocabulary of our life
                                         
                                         in a way that it almost rolls off the tongue now.
                                         
                                         So it'll be hard, but I do like saying simp more.
                                         
                                         I simp.
                                         
    
                                         Like to me, that is a more satisfying landing place.
                                         
                                         You want to know when I knew that stan was kind of over for me
                                         
                                         when it'll never be really over katie perry but i you know would like pick up on people like
                                         
                                         our lovely most recent guest meet johari just like kind of making fun of it and it's it's
                                         
                                         and it's so funny but then literally our second week back at work i don't think you would mind
                                         
                                         if i said this but um i was just like kind of standing next to Kyle for a bit and we were just
                                         
                                         doing bits.
                                         
                                         And then in one of his trademark Kyle voices,
                                         
    
                                         he goes,
                                         
                                         we stand.
                                         
                                         And I was like,
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         now that not,
                                         
                                         not now that it's become,
                                         
                                         now that Kyle can use it as meta humor or as like a way that to ironically
                                         
    
                                         like signal that he's someone else.
                                         
                                         I'm just like okay we're done
                                         
                                         we're done
                                         
                                         so I think I think R.I.P.
                                         
                                         Stan welcome
                                         
                                         simp it's a rule of culture it's a rule of culture
                                         
                                         number because it's later on
                                         
                                         it's a rule of culture number 203 R.I.P.
                                         
    
                                         Stan
                                         
                                         welcome simp or it's another
                                         
                                         way of saying um
                                         
                                         Stan is dead long live simp love it Stan is dead long live simp. Or it's another way of saying, Stan is dead, long live simp.
                                         
                                         Love it.
                                         
                                         Stan is dead, long live simp.
                                         
                                         And actually replace the rule of culture with that, everyone.
                                         
                                         Okay, readers at home, people that are logging this,
                                         
    
                                         it is so decided.
                                         
                                         So the seventh day of culture.
                                         
                                         The thing about it is, this was huge culture.
                                         
                                         This was blockbuster culture.
                                         
                                         And so everything we've been talking about
                                         
                                         is really just kind of blockbuster culture. I mean, Taylor's releasing an album that's blockbuster culture and so we everything we've been talking about is really just kind of blockbuster culture i mean taylor's releasing an album that's blockbuster culture
                                         
                                         i mean this idea of the spider-man 3 stunt cast and so that we can help create this communal
                                         
                                         um culture moment that i think we saw truly created by a certain film that slammed into the top of the box office in the mid-1970s.
                                         
    
                                         Are you ready for it?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         On the seventh day of culture, it was.
                                         
                                         It was.
                                         
                                         June 20th, 1975.
                                         
                                         Jaws eats the girls.
                                         
                                         Talk about this.
                                         
                                         This was big attacking fish culture.
                                         
    
                                         This was cuckoo,
                                         
                                         you never wanted to go in the water again culture.
                                         
                                         This was...
                                         
                                         Sing it, girl.
                                         
                                         Soundtrack culture.
                                         
                                         Girl, that is the most beautiful song the way i'm rolling the way that i sexually came oh yeah the way it's literally a beat
                                         
                                         drop it to the ground while this plays i I'm telling you, you feel, if you embrace this song as a sort of sexual call to the dance floor,
                                         
                                         amazing things will happen.
                                         
    
                                         It's a floor filler.
                                         
                                         The Jaws theme song is ultimately a floor filler.
                                         
                                         That's a rule of culture.
                                         
                                         Number 99.
                                         
                                         The Jaws theme song is ultimately a floor filler.
                                         
                                         A floor filler.
                                         
                                         Babe.
                                         
                                         Oh, babe.
                                         
    
                                         Has there been any remixes?
                                         
                                         I'm sure there have been remixes.
                                         
                                         It's a 45-year-old movie.
                                         
                                         I have a confession to make.
                                         
                                         It's one of those.
                                         
                                         Go, girl.
                                         
                                         Shut up.
                                         
                                         Three words, bitch.
                                         
    
                                         Never seen it.
                                         
                                         Do you hate me?
                                         
                                         Do you want me to sort of tell you?
                                         
                                         No, I don't hate you at all.
                                         
                                         I just feel like I need to fill in a blank
                                         
                                         for you. Can I sort of tell you what happens in Jaws?
                                         
                                         Yes, my sister.
                                         
                                         And if you have any questions, I want you to ask.
                                         
    
                                         The Real Housewives of New York City
                                         
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                                         Look who it is.
                                         
                                         Joined by elite new friends.
                                         
                                         Rebecca Minkoff.
                                         
                                         Have you ever heard of her?
                                         
                                         But things could change in a New York Minute.
                                         
    
                                         She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         You've told her?
                                         
                                         Not today, Satan.
                                         
                                         Not today.
                                         
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                                         On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
                                         
    
                                         He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
                                         
                                         He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
                                         
                                         And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
                                         
                                         Elian Gonzalez.
                                         
                                         Elian Gonzalez.
                                         
                                         Elian.
                                         
                                         Elian.
                                         
                                         Elian Gonzalez.
                                         
    
                                         At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
                                         
                                         His father in Cuba.
                                         
                                         Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
                                         
                                         Or his relatives in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives
                                         
                                         in Miami. Imagine that your
                                         
                                         mother died trying
                                         
                                         to get you to freedom. At the
                                         
                                         heart of it all is still this painful
                                         
    
                                         family separation. Something
                                         
                                         that as a Cuban, I know
                                         
                                         all too well. Listen
                                         
                                         to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez
                                         
                                         story, as part of the
                                         
                                         My Cultura podcast network,
                                         
                                         available on the iHeartRadio app,
                                         
                                         Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
    
                                         I'm Julian Edelman.
                                         
                                         I'm Rob Gronkowski.
                                         
                                         Guess what, folks?
                                         
                                         We're teammates again.
                                         
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                                         I'm a dude, you're a dude,
                                         
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                                         We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against,
                                         
    
                                         legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them.
                                         
                                         And we'll get into the types of dudes.
                                         
                                         What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk?
                                         
                                         We got studs, wizards.
                                         
                                         We got freaks.
                                         
                                         Or dudes dudes.
                                         
                                         We got dogs.
                                         
                                         Dogs.
                                         
    
                                         We'll break down their games.
                                         
                                         We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
                                         
                                         Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak?
                                         
                                         Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude?
                                         
                                         We're going to find out, Jules.
                                         
                                         New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
                                         
                                         Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
                                         Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
                                         
    
                                         My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
                                         
                                         This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
                                         
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                                         We talk about guilt, shame, body image,
                                         
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                                         I was a desperate, delusional dreamer,
                                         
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                                         Be a delusional dreamer.
                                         
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                                         Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault,
                                         
                                         but mine, I had such a victim mentality.
                                         
                                         I took zero accountability for anything in my life. was the kid that if you asked what what happened i immediately started
                                         
                                         with everything but me it took years for me to break that like years of work listen to on purpose
                                         
    
                                         with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
                                         
                                         This is the movie Jaws.
                                         
                                         Number one scene, a.k.a. beginning of the movie.
                                         
                                         Number one scene.
                                         
                                         Number one scene.
                                         
                                         So there's, and tell me how much you love this.
                                         
                                         A guy and a girl sort of like drinking at a bonfire on the beach.
                                         
                                         I'm in.
                                         
    
                                         I'm in. I'm in.
                                         
                                         And so then they,
                                         
                                         she gets like a little drunk and she has a running on the beach and she's
                                         
                                         naked.
                                         
                                         She gets off,
                                         
                                         take off her clothes and he sort of passes out from being drunk.
                                         
                                         So she swims out.
                                         
                                         He's so drunk.
                                         
    
                                         He can barely see her.
                                         
                                         She's like taking off her clothes,
                                         
                                         running away from the bonfire on the beach.
                                         
                                         And she's sort of getting into the water and it's very dark.
                                         
                                         Do you see what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I don't know about these two people.
                                         
                                         I think they deserve it.
                                         
    
                                         As I see,
                                         
                                         I don't sympathize with these characters.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         Even though they're like young and we know nothing about them.
                                         
                                         You're just,
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I think they seem sympathetic to me.
                                         
                                         Also she's blonde anyway.
                                         
    
                                         So she,
                                         
                                         maybe she does deserve it.
                                         
                                         Her name is Chrrissy by the way
                                         
                                         and so she runs out into the water you know what happens in this i don't i don't even know about
                                         
                                         the opening scene of you don't even know about the opening scene of jaws so this is iconic
                                         
                                         she's swimming and you see her from below you see teds and it's like
                                         
                                         and all of a sudden like you see her go get pulled under the water really fast and she goes
                                         
                                         and then she he pulls her again and all of a sudden like you she's thrashed around and she's
                                         
    
                                         screaming this is jaz she's praying yeah so jaws basically we don't ever see it all we see is her
                                         
                                         being thrashed around in the water and like pulled under and eventually
                                         
                                         she's thrown up against like um like a little like dinky in the water or whatever like it's
                                         
                                         like a one of those like a little yeah buoy or something he pulls her off and the last thing
                                         
                                         you see is she she's screaming screaming screaming gets pulled under the water and that's wow
                                         
                                         so i presume that the guy also got killed by jaws no no no he's
                                         
                                         passed out on the beach he's passed out on the beach he never even made it in so then she's like
                                         
                                         missing and so whatever they're like or she's not missing basically like what so and so happens and
                                         
    
                                         they find her on the beach the next day and like literally oh my god okay mind you it is fourth of
                                         
                                         july weekend okay big time and the town is called the town is called
                                         
                                         jaws amity amity girl no jaws i know but i think i thought they called it jaws because there are
                                         
                                         the other things named jaws no i think jaws what about the beach honey wait hold on i have to say
                                         
                                         something it is shocking to me that you have not seen this movie ever. Child of immigrants, babe. You might have to watch it.
                                         
                                         Before pre-streaming.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but this was...
                                         
                                         Well, now I think you can stream Jaws on all sorts of things.
                                         
    
                                         Also, I feel like it's one of those movies that gets put on.
                                         
                                         Also, I talk about Jaws culture so much.
                                         
                                         When you talk about Jaws, the ride culture,
                                         
                                         there's a difference.
                                         
                                         And I have experienced that.
                                         
                                         You played the shark.
                                         
                                         Because we all know what Jaws...
                                         
                                         Jaws has no characterization.
                                         
    
                                         He has no motivation besides wanting to kill people.
                                         
                                         He is one of the worst killers.
                                         
                                         He really is.
                                         
                                         But he's not motivated by anything more complicated
                                         
                                         than some primal desire to attack people.
                                         
                                         You're right.
                                         
                                         And so I guess you feel like you're not interested in it
                                         
                                         because the villain doesn't have a compelling narrative.
                                         
    
                                         No, I'm so interested in it. It just has not been an imperative for me ever to watch it. I will watch it because we are ordaining it as a day of culture. And I love your passion for this. And you're able to retell it so clearly and vividly. But I just want to make the distinction that you have talked about Jaws ride culture, which is not the same as Jaws culture.
                                         
                                         Do you understand me?
                                         
                                         You're right.
                                         
                                         I mean, I understand.
                                         
                                         And I first of all, I want to say I apologize for it for misrepresenting.
                                         
                                         I have talked about Jaws ride culture many times, which I believe is Jaws culture by proxy. But now
                                         
                                         that I'm thinking about it and I'm going back to the
                                         
                                         file cabinets in my brain,
                                         
    
                                         never once did I ever
                                         
                                         hear you say you had never seen it
                                         
                                         or implore you
                                         
                                         to watch it. It hasn't come up
                                         
                                         till this very moment. Every episode of
                                         
                                         Lost Culturistas, we
                                         
                                         peel back a layer of this friendship.
                                         
                                         And I didn't know this to me what
                                         
    
                                         what do you think is weirder that i haven't seen sound of music that you haven't seen music
                                         
                                         1000 percent it is so culturally like we all know like doa deer we all know like edelweiss
                                         
                                         no we know jaws is a shark that. That's what we all know.
                                         
                                         Let's get one thing straight. No, girl.
                                         
                                         We know all about Quint's monologue. No, I don't know who the hell
                                         
                                         that is. We know all about... I don't know who...
                                         
                                         Girl, you don't know Miss Quint. I don't know Quint.
                                         
                                         Who the hell is Quint? Who is she?
                                         
    
                                         Robert Shaw played Quint
                                         
                                         and he has a monologue about
                                         
                                         a shark attack he once
                                         
                                         survived and it is film canon.
                                         
                                         All we know, and I'm speaking on behalf of people who have not seen Jaws, all we know is that Jaws is a shark attack he once survived and it is no film all we know and i'm speaking on behalf of people
                                         
                                         who have not seen jaws all we know is that jaws is a shark possibly the town is called jaws and
                                         
                                         we're gonna need a bigger boat that's all that's all we know girl first of all you are literally
                                         
                                         the only motherfucker who believes that the town was called jaws everyone knows the town was called amity
                                         
    
                                         everyone knows that and wait you cannot speak on our behalf what doug can you get in here please
                                         
                                         yeah it's crazy that you have we need a third party doug who's what's crazier doug he's putting
                                         
                                         on his headphones definitively and you you i know you know what's weirder that i haven't seen sound of music or
                                         
                                         that bowen hasn't seen jaws initially i thought it was more weird that matt had not seen sound
                                         
                                         of music no then i grew up from jaws that fucked people's heads for years it literally is ocean
                                         
                                         culture like you can't look at an ocean or go to a beach without someone making a Jaws joke. You can't do it. I think they're kind of on par.
                                         
                                         I know why music is universal.
                                         
                                         And when I was growing up in America, I was in a landlocked state.
                                         
    
                                         So we didn't fucking care about Jaws or ocean culture in Colorado.
                                         
                                         No Bowen.
                                         
                                         Because that would add to the mystique of the ocean and beach culture even more.
                                         
                                         So people in the middle of the country went even crazier.
                                         
                                         Doug, what was Jaws fever?
                                         
                                         Can you explain?
                                         
                                         Oh, I grew up in a landlocked spot.
                                         
                                         Hello.
                                         
    
                                         And people would go on vacation.
                                         
                                         And my sister would not go in the ocean.
                                         
                                         Because of Jaws?
                                         
                                         Literally.
                                         
                                         Because of Jaws?
                                         
                                         Because of Jaws.
                                         
                                         Like, it fucked her brain.
                                         
                                         Like, she just wouldn't do it.
                                         
    
                                         That's wonderful.
                                         
                                         But also, the whole world knows sulfage notes
                                         
                                         do remi fa so latido because of julie andrews and rogers and hammerstein i totally agree with you
                                         
                                         that's why i'm saying i we we doug and i agree they're on par doug did not break the tie. He did not break the tie. Anna, get in here.
                                         
                                         Anna, producer Anna,
                                         
                                         hi. What's weirder?
                                         
                                         That Bowen has not seen Jaws or that I
                                         
                                         have not seen The Sound of Music.
                                         
    
                                         Anna is Persian and has Persian parents
                                         
                                         who can probably relate to this thing that
                                         
                                         I'm putting forward. I will
                                         
                                         say, yes, I do think Sound
                                         
                                         of Music is like immigrant child culture.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Because I saw Sound of Music way before I saw Jaws.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         So I do think when you're kind of, I don't know why, but parents, immigrant parents seem to like Sound of Music.
                                         
                                         So you see that before.
                                         
                                         I do think it's just culturally what you see versus like.
                                         
                                         I think you might be onto something here because jaws is very
                                         
                                         american yeah it's very yeah that's and this actually ended up being a more interesting
                                         
                                         discussion than i ever could have thought thank you but so i think anna maybe a little slightly
                                         
                                         broke the tie in my favor i think so i think well, I don't think she broke a tie because she acknowledges the extremely prominent American culture that is Jaws.
                                         
                                         But I do think that there is an experiential factor here
                                         
    
                                         that is kind of coming in with,
                                         
                                         I don't know why I never saw Sound of Music,
                                         
                                         maybe because I grew up in like a sports house, honestly.
                                         
                                         And like, just, I don't know.
                                         
                                         And also, you know, Sound of music is an international story international stars who who is who is bringing that element in the cast of
                                         
                                         jaws nobody i mean i could argue that roy shiner no this i don't i could thank you
                                         
                                         shaw is bringing it i could i could argue that um richard dreyfus is bringing it. I could argue that Richard Dreyfuss is bringing it.
                                         
                                         I could argue the shark itself is bringing the glam factor. Listen, I think if Steven Spielberg stopped me on the street and said,
                                         
    
                                         Bowen, I'd be like, who are you?
                                         
                                         I don't recognize you.
                                         
                                         And if he said, Bowen, it hurts me that you
                                         
                                         haven't seen Jaws. I'll say,
                                         
                                         well, Mr. Spielberg,
                                         
                                         as an immigrant to this country, I
                                         
                                         resent the fact that you made an American
                                         
                                         movie for Americans.
                                         
    
                                         Good day. I have
                                         
                                         to go get my haircut at Astor
                                         
                                         Hair. Thank you.
                                         
                                         But can I ask you a question? Yes.
                                         
                                         Think about this scenario. you are swimming in the water
                                         
                                         a massive shark fin is in front jaws did not popularize sharks existed before jaws yes i'm
                                         
                                         telling you bowen shark what jaws did for sharks is what sound of music did for music? American Idol did for Kelly Clarkson.
                                         
                                         Skyrocketed the Sharks.
                                         
    
                                         I'm telling you, Jaws made Sharks the top of the Sharks.
                                         
                                         Jaws took Sharks to the top of the Sharks. We knew as a culture, as a world, as a human race,
                                         
                                         that Sharks are dangerous and will kill you.
                                         
                                         Not like this.
                                         
                                         You are so out of your mind.
                                         
                                         And anyone who agrees...
                                         
                                         You have come in...
                                         
                                         Can I say something?
                                         
    
                                         You have come in today with a combative tone.
                                         
                                         And you've been very combative.
                                         
                                         No, Queen.
                                         
                                         And Queen, let me tell you something.
                                         
                                         Carrie Underwood could do Sound of Music.
                                         
                                         Carrie Underwood could not Sound of Music Carrie Underwood
                                         
                                         could not do Jaws
                                         
                                         she could never be that sharp
                                         
    
                                         okay
                                         
                                         okay
                                         
                                         and if Carrie Underwood
                                         
                                         could do it
                                         
                                         must not be iconic culture
                                         
                                         oh shit
                                         
                                         just kidding
                                         
                                         I don't know why
                                         
    
                                         I'm being such a bitch
                                         
                                         don't go after Carrie
                                         
                                         I would never
                                         
                                         I would never
                                         
                                         I would
                                         
                                         I would literally would never
                                         
                                         I would die for her
                                         
                                         her version of Alone from American Idol.
                                         
    
                                         Kill myself for her.
                                         
                                         She did Alone?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, she did.
                                         
                                         Oh, she did it well.
                                         
                                         You can't do Alone.
                                         
                                         You need to have...
                                         
                                         Was that a duet?
                                         
                                         Or she did it herself?
                                         
    
                                         No, she did it herself.
                                         
                                         Alone by Heart?
                                         
                                         You need that harmony.
                                         
                                         You need that harmony on the third, though,
                                         
                                         to make it truly sore.
                                         
                                         How do I do? How do I do? yeah i lost you i'm sorry um but you need
                                         
                                         anyway we don't have to argue about carrie we are here to talk about jaws keep walking me through
                                         
                                         this story in our few minutes that we have left let's just say this because there's the death of
                                         
    
                                         this girl everyone's like oh there must be a huge shark here the bites on this young
                                         
                                         girl are psycho so then they're like well it's fourth of july and probably shouldn't close the
                                         
                                         beaches keep them open it's a huge time for business says the mayor who looks very much
                                         
                                         like a mayor now there's like the town sheriff who's like the the lead of the movie um he's sort
                                         
                                         of going back and forth on his head about whether to close the beach down. It's a very contemporary
                                         
                                         COVID narrative.
                                         
                                         Yes. Very that.
                                         
                                         A story for now, now more than ever, Jaws.
                                         
    
                                         And so they're at the beach
                                         
                                         one day. He's literally at the beach one day when a kid
                                         
                                         gets killed by the shark.
                                         
                                         You see it. It's crazy.
                                         
                                         And then he still
                                         
                                         hasn't closed
                                         
                                         the beach down.
                                         
                                         Like there's people go crazy though.
                                         
    
                                         At the funeral,
                                         
                                         the kid's mother says to the sheriff,
                                         
                                         we know that you waited days after this first girl was killed and didn't close the beach.
                                         
                                         So anything you do now is too little,
                                         
                                         too late.
                                         
                                         I'm paraphrasing here.
                                         
                                         And mind you,
                                         
                                         the,
                                         
    
                                         the,
                                         
                                         the person who's like the coroner,
                                         
                                         like who's Richard Dreyfus has come and said you need
                                         
                                         to close down the beach if there's some sort of animal that's this big that could do this to this
                                         
                                         girl you need to close down the beach and he's ignored ignored ignored so basically um they
                                         
                                         finally closed down the beach but they're they're unable to get rid of the shark to the extent where
                                         
                                         they realize this is really a summation they must must go out to try to like kill it.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
    
                                         so they put these,
                                         
                                         they get this little ship together called the Orca.
                                         
                                         It's three guys.
                                         
                                         One is Quint.
                                         
                                         This older guy I'm telling you about is like a shark expert.
                                         
                                         And then there's the town sheriff and this coroner who's like able to
                                         
                                         identify the animal,
                                         
                                         I guess it's those three guys there.
                                         
    
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         They forgot a skipper.
                                         
                                         They did not hire a skipper
                                         
                                         but the sheriff does have a wife that's like please protect us you know what i mean so um
                                         
                                         so basically they go out to to see to kill this shark and they're trying to attract it with these
                                         
                                         big yellow buoys i guess and um they find it and basically spoiler alert it is a fight to the fucking death. The shark gives it to him.
                                         
                                         The shark expert, Quinn,
                                         
                                         ends up getting eaten by the shark.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, yes, yes.
                                         
                                         I'm already invested.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         No, you need to...
                                         
                                         Oh, I can't believe I just told you
                                         
                                         what happens in the movie.
                                         
                                         But basically, they do kill the shark.
                                         
    
                                         But then there's more shark sequels later,
                                         
                                         like Jaws 2, Jaws 3, 3D,
                                         
                                         which Dennis Quaid was in and said had a cocaine budget
                                         
                                         hidden into the budget of the film.
                                         
                                         That was in the 80s.
                                         
                                         This movie came out in 75
                                         
                                         and legitimately
                                         
                                         it was like a rough time for
                                         
    
                                         beaches because people were afraid to go on the water.
                                         
                                         I don't deny the impact
                                         
                                         that Jaws had on the culture.
                                         
                                         I'm just saying.
                                         
                                         It's just not your, it's just not
                                         
                                         your, it's not something that
                                         
                                         you touched until now.
                                         
                                         It absolutely deserves
                                         
    
                                         a spot in the 12 Days of Culture.
                                         
                                         One thousand percent.
                                         
                                         But when you start to bring in
                                         
                                         the sound of music,
                                         
                                         I just, look,
                                         
                                         have you seen
                                         
                                         The Godfather
                                         
                                         I have not
                                         
    
                                         neither have I
                                         
                                         and I think
                                         
                                         that that's actually
                                         
                                         important
                                         
                                         for me and my sister
                                         
                                         to connect on
                                         
                                         is that none of this
                                         
                                         really matters
                                         
    
                                         because neither of us
                                         
                                         have seen The Godfather
                                         
                                         and that's what's important
                                         
                                         neither of us
                                         
                                         ingested that
                                         
                                         hetero
                                         
                                         patriarchy culture.
                                         
                                         I will say that I do love a crime movie.
                                         
    
                                         I love a crime movie.
                                         
                                         Get out of here.
                                         
                                         What do you like?
                                         
                                         What do I like that's crime?
                                         
                                         Bitch, I love Goodfellas.
                                         
                                         I love...
                                         
                                         But he's never seen Jaws.
                                         
                                         But he loves Goodfellas.
                                         
    
                                         But he's never seen Jaws because that culture is too
                                         
                                         American. You know what?
                                         
                                         You are a crazy
                                         
                                         boy.
                                         
                                         I really are.
                                         
                                         That's actually going to be where we wrap this episode up.
                                         
                                         Get ready for the name I'll call Matt
                                         
                                         tomorrow on day 8
                                         
    
                                         of the 12 Days of Culture.
                                         
                                         We've got some great ones coming up.
                                         
                                         I think.
                                         
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