Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - On The Seventh Day of Culture... June 20th, 1975: JAWS Eats The Girls (RE-RELEASE)

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

This is a re-release of a CLASSIC Las Culturistas episode:This episode, which is really a prayer, is a time capsule recorded just hours before the release of Tayla Swiff's evermore. It is also going ...to go down in history as one of the most thought-provoking discussions of all podcast time. The central question? Is it weirder that Bowen hasn't seen Jaws (despite having once played him/her on stage) or that Matt hasn't seen The Sound of Music (despite being Matt)? What was intended as a discussion on the cultural impact of Jaws eating, nay, devouring the girls quickly turns into an exploration on pop culture's impact relative to location and broader cultural exposure. Also, the famous score of the blockbuster film as a "sexual call to the dance floor", how the hoopla around the movie took sharks to the top of the charts, and the reveal that neither of the boys have seen The Godfather. All this, Disney's recent announcements, the incumbent "stan" vs. the challenger "simp", and a brief, tasteful moment of appreciation for Carrie Underwood. You're gonna need a bigger...hug :) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. The seventh day. The seventh day of culture. We're finishing out the first week, or we're starting the second week. It's the second half of Days of Culture. See, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:02:44 If you're thinking of a week as in seven days, then baby, we're closing out the second week. It's the second half of Days of Culture. See, here's the deal. If you're thinking of a week as in seven days, then baby, we're closing out the first week. But if you're thinking about like a weekday, I don't know. I really don't know how it works out. Can I tell you something? What? I'm a little kerbobble.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And you're fanning yourself. Reader, he is fanning himself. What's up? Well, a few things happened today. One, I ordered a candle in the mail and I opened it up and the glass was broken everywhere. And now my, my, my Fraser for a candle is not usable. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And so the other thing is Hans isn't in the chat today. Why does that perturb you so? Well, I just like his energy. Like I like when he like, you know, can chimes in and you know, you're in love. Just whenever I have feelings for him. So do I. Today, do you know who texted us pictures of his wedding? You bitch.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Darcy Carden texted us pictures of his wedding. Gorgeous wedding. And he and his wife look so stunning together. Yeah. So wonderful. We miss him. We just miss him is all. So I'm happy that you share this with me.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I knew there was like a funk and now we can put a name to it. It's just like Hans not being here. Hans Funk. Also today I'm a little bit like sort of like, I don't know what to expect because today like we're only a few hours away from Evermore. Oh yeah. We're recording this on December 10th. We're three hours away from Evermore being released.
Starting point is 00:04:02 How, how? Well, I wanted to ask you like, what's the deal? Like, I feel like we usually would be, we'd be so excited wanted to ask you like what's the deal like i feel like we usually would be we'd be so excited but i feel like there's some trepidation in the air are you trepidatious a little bit me too oh no well i mean i texted you before and i was like oh my god can you believe and your energy was no no no no that was just i'm so sorry gruna it was no but honestly i I feel the same. Really? No, you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Don't take on mine. No, I'm telling you. I wouldn't describe the way I feel about her album coming out as excited. I would say I'm trepidatious. I'm borderline concerned. I don't want these to be folklore b-sides. Okay, and thank you for saying that. My queen, queen. I don't want these to be folklore b-sides and thank you for saying that my queen
Starting point is 00:04:45 because I think folklore is so special truly folklore came at a time think about it middle of July we were all we were all sort of thawing from the initial quarantine trauma
Starting point is 00:05:02 and then it felt like an exhale. It felt like an exhale. It made me think like it was... I'm still processing it, honestly. I think... Absolutely. I don't think we're the only Swifties
Starting point is 00:05:13 who feel this way. I think a lot of Taylor Swift Nation, Taylor Nation feels this way. I mean, a lot of Taylor Nation, I think is sort of, of course, we're always fever. And by the way, when this episode comes out,
Starting point is 00:05:25 by the time people hear this, the verdict will be out on whether or not this was folklore B-side city or another gorgeous creation. And I believe that we're very sort of susceptible to getting both. So I'm praying for art. I'm always praying for art. I see later one time I walked in on Matt Rogers on his knees. On my knees.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Reflecting, if you can believe it. Hands to the floor. I was. And then he raised them to the sky. And then I raised them. I did. I raised them high. And it was only then that I was able to really call out.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Art. Like, I'm praying for art. Please, art. And that day, what happened? Folklore. That was the day of folklore. If it's good, know that I prayed after this episode, and if it's bad, know that I chose to save my prayers. Girl, you
Starting point is 00:06:18 might as well throw a dart to the board and use up one of these prayers on one of the 50 new Star wars things that have been announced today did you see this i think that some of them show potential i think that some of them show art potential and i might pray for them such as the rosario dawson ah so i saw ahs in that font and i was like is this an america star wars american horror story and then i was like oh okay okay baby it's a Rosario Dawson vehicle.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You, as someone who is a Star Wars fan and as someone who, well, you just said something so interesting, which is some of them show potential, which like, is that what we're settling for now? Like 12 new products get announced and we're like, yeah, some of those look good. Shouldn't they all look good?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Well, at a certain point, it's just going to be like, somebody said this on Twitter today, but it's just going to be like, somebody said this on Twitter today, but it's just going to be like TV and Star Wars. It's like regular TV and then Star Wars. It's like Marvel. And it's just, I was kind of shocked when I saw it. I mean, literally it is, but it feels even more.
Starting point is 00:07:18 They're taking over completely. I mean, it's like the universes are going to be created. I think we got to be careful with this Disney girl. This Disney girl walked in and we have been suspicious. This young girl, Disney, like this is my, this is sort of goes back to my concern though with the Taylor Evermore of it all.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Cause it's just like, is this just going to, are these going to be actual stories that we care about? Because like we're able to invest in actual, real, good new content or is it going to feel like star wars besides yeah you shouldn't give just because you can give like what you give as yes i want to say as an artist or as a conglomerate should be should be i don't know like i don't i don't want i don't need star wars for the sake of star wars i i think that that's that's the point that i'm making don't give me b-sides of
Starting point is 00:08:11 the shit i already liked like i'd rather maybe this is just me be a someone that discovers something new i also saw they're making new indiana jones stuff um what i what i thought was cool was like i hadn't heard of a lot of the characters before but then some of it is like land right you know what i mean and this that the other thing which is cool donald will be i think let's go back to evermore um i will say before before we move on from star wars though peripherally related um marvel but i am getting excited about this new spider-man movie though. Oh yeah. Because it sounds like a sort of drag event. Doctor Strange is doing like another sequel.
Starting point is 00:08:50 That's like about multiverses even more than the original, but then, but you know how like Jamie Foxx got signed on to this third one with Tom Holland. He was the villain in the amazing Spider-Man two. So he was, so he was so he was um andrew garfield spider-man villain and then alfred for alfred melina to come back in as toby mcguire spider-man villain they're they're taught like someone picked up a hint in spider-man 2 like jay jameson is trying to come up with a name for doc ock and then someone pitches him dr strange and he goes that's already
Starting point is 00:09:22 been taken so like people are like in Marvel world are like wait a minute that's a hint or that's not a hint it's just like a really clever time where it's like Doctor Strange already exists in Tobey Maguire universe so that's so that means that there's portals for Doctor Strange in Tom Holland universe to open a portal multiverse
Starting point is 00:09:39 portal there for Alfred Molina to come in and Jamie Foxx to come in from um uh andrew garfield multiverse but then potentially there's rumors that toby and kirsten are signing on for this one i saw that kirsten was rumored and that so was emma stone and i know zendaya is like currently shooting it would be like an avengers style thing but it's like I would I like that kind of is very cool to me no it appeals to me I mean look I love yes I love I love a stunt
Starting point is 00:10:11 cast moment like we just talked about on our episode with Joel and Mitra when someone comes in and they helicopter moment yes that's what you need and so a full movie that's about that yeah I just think it. What? Speaking.
Starting point is 00:10:26 No, no, no. I'm just like Kirsten as MJ again. Next to Zendaya as MJ. Get out. Forget it. Yeah, please. I mean, yeah. Cut back from us earlier saying,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I don't know about Disney to us fully simping for fucking Spider-Man for all the Spider-Man cash cows to come together. Whatever. We're dumb. Can I ask a question before we move on what is another word because i feel like simping came in okay but what does it mean it's the same grammar rules as stan it's like i simp you in that shirt a hundred percent i understand what it means and how it's used and i'm ready to start doing that but i as someone who is in the culture, want to know where the culture I'm using comes from. So Stan, I know, comes from Eminem's song Stan,
Starting point is 00:11:11 but where does Sim come from? I don't know the etymology on it fully. I think it's more... I honestly am embracing it as a more general use. Hopefully, I think, I believe it's like, maybe it's not meant to be this functionally, but I feel like it is. You were very early on the whole Stan is using Stan.
Starting point is 00:11:30 An M and M term is a bummer for queer people. Right. And I still do it because it's become so, but I think simp is our way out. It's our little exit strategy. It's our hatch door. Yeah. I think,
Starting point is 00:11:41 I think you can do that. Okay. So, and I'll be honest with you. Stan has become like, um, a part of the vocabulary of our life in a way that it almost rolls off the tongue now. So it'll be hard, but I do like saying simp more. I simp.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Like to me, that is a more satisfying landing place. You want to know when I knew that stan was kind of over for me when it'll never be really over katie perry but i you know would like pick up on people like our lovely most recent guest meet johari just like kind of making fun of it and it's it's and it's so funny but then literally our second week back at work i don't think you would mind if i said this but um i was just like kind of standing next to Kyle for a bit and we were just doing bits. And then in one of his trademark Kyle voices,
Starting point is 00:12:30 he goes, we stand. And I was like, Oh my God. You know, now that not, not now that it's become, now that Kyle can use it as meta humor or as like a way that to ironically
Starting point is 00:12:42 like signal that he's someone else. I'm just like okay we're done we're done so I think I think R.I.P. Stan welcome simp it's a rule of culture it's a rule of culture number because it's later on it's a rule of culture number 203 R.I.P.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Stan welcome simp or it's another way of saying um Stan is dead long live simp love it Stan is dead long live simp. Or it's another way of saying, Stan is dead, long live simp. Love it. Stan is dead, long live simp. And actually replace the rule of culture with that, everyone. Okay, readers at home, people that are logging this,
Starting point is 00:13:14 it is so decided. So the seventh day of culture. The thing about it is, this was huge culture. This was blockbuster culture. And so everything we've been talking about is really just kind of blockbuster culture. I mean, Taylor's releasing an album that's blockbuster culture and so we everything we've been talking about is really just kind of blockbuster culture i mean taylor's releasing an album that's blockbuster culture i mean this idea of the spider-man 3 stunt cast and so that we can help create this communal um culture moment that i think we saw truly created by a certain film that slammed into the top of the box office in the mid-1970s.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Are you ready for it? Yes. On the seventh day of culture, it was. It was. June 20th, 1975. Jaws eats the girls. Talk about this. This was big attacking fish culture.
Starting point is 00:14:12 This was cuckoo, you never wanted to go in the water again culture. This was... Sing it, girl. Soundtrack culture. Girl, that is the most beautiful song the way i'm rolling the way that i sexually came oh yeah the way it's literally a beat drop it to the ground while this plays i I'm telling you, you feel, if you embrace this song as a sort of sexual call to the dance floor, amazing things will happen.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It's a floor filler. The Jaws theme song is ultimately a floor filler. That's a rule of culture. Number 99. The Jaws theme song is ultimately a floor filler. A floor filler. Babe. Oh, babe.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Has there been any remixes? I'm sure there have been remixes. It's a 45-year-old movie. I have a confession to make. It's one of those. Go, girl. Shut up. Three words, bitch.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Never seen it. Do you hate me? Do you want me to sort of tell you? No, I don't hate you at all. I just feel like I need to fill in a blank for you. Can I sort of tell you what happens in Jaws? Yes, my sister. And if you have any questions, I want you to ask.
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Starting point is 00:18:57 with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. This is the movie Jaws. Number one scene, a.k.a. beginning of the movie. Number one scene. Number one scene. So there's, and tell me how much you love this. A guy and a girl sort of like drinking at a bonfire on the beach. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I'm in. I'm in. And so then they, she gets like a little drunk and she has a running on the beach and she's naked. She gets off, take off her clothes and he sort of passes out from being drunk. So she swims out. He's so drunk.
Starting point is 00:19:38 He can barely see her. She's like taking off her clothes, running away from the bonfire on the beach. And she's sort of getting into the water and it's very dark. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know about these two people. I think they deserve it.
Starting point is 00:19:50 As I see, I don't sympathize with these characters. Oh my God. Even though they're like young and we know nothing about them. You're just, I don't know. I think they seem sympathetic to me. Also she's blonde anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:02 So she, maybe she does deserve it. Her name is Chrrissy by the way and so she runs out into the water you know what happens in this i don't i don't even know about the opening scene of you don't even know about the opening scene of jaws so this is iconic she's swimming and you see her from below you see teds and it's like and all of a sudden like you see her go get pulled under the water really fast and she goes and then she he pulls her again and all of a sudden like you she's thrashed around and she's
Starting point is 00:20:34 screaming this is jaz she's praying yeah so jaws basically we don't ever see it all we see is her being thrashed around in the water and like pulled under and eventually she's thrown up against like um like a little like dinky in the water or whatever like it's like a one of those like a little yeah buoy or something he pulls her off and the last thing you see is she she's screaming screaming screaming gets pulled under the water and that's wow so i presume that the guy also got killed by jaws no no no he's passed out on the beach he's passed out on the beach he never even made it in so then she's like missing and so whatever they're like or she's not missing basically like what so and so happens and
Starting point is 00:21:16 they find her on the beach the next day and like literally oh my god okay mind you it is fourth of july weekend okay big time and the town is called the town is called jaws amity amity girl no jaws i know but i think i thought they called it jaws because there are the other things named jaws no i think jaws what about the beach honey wait hold on i have to say something it is shocking to me that you have not seen this movie ever. Child of immigrants, babe. You might have to watch it. Before pre-streaming. Yeah, but this was... Well, now I think you can stream Jaws on all sorts of things.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Also, I feel like it's one of those movies that gets put on. Also, I talk about Jaws culture so much. When you talk about Jaws, the ride culture, there's a difference. And I have experienced that. You played the shark. Because we all know what Jaws... Jaws has no characterization.
Starting point is 00:22:07 He has no motivation besides wanting to kill people. He is one of the worst killers. He really is. But he's not motivated by anything more complicated than some primal desire to attack people. You're right. And so I guess you feel like you're not interested in it because the villain doesn't have a compelling narrative.
Starting point is 00:22:25 No, I'm so interested in it. It just has not been an imperative for me ever to watch it. I will watch it because we are ordaining it as a day of culture. And I love your passion for this. And you're able to retell it so clearly and vividly. But I just want to make the distinction that you have talked about Jaws ride culture, which is not the same as Jaws culture. Do you understand me? You're right. I mean, I understand. And I first of all, I want to say I apologize for it for misrepresenting. I have talked about Jaws ride culture many times, which I believe is Jaws culture by proxy. But now that I'm thinking about it and I'm going back to the file cabinets in my brain,
Starting point is 00:23:09 never once did I ever hear you say you had never seen it or implore you to watch it. It hasn't come up till this very moment. Every episode of Lost Culturistas, we peel back a layer of this friendship. And I didn't know this to me what
Starting point is 00:23:28 what do you think is weirder that i haven't seen sound of music that you haven't seen music 1000 percent it is so culturally like we all know like doa deer we all know like edelweiss no we know jaws is a shark that. That's what we all know. Let's get one thing straight. No, girl. We know all about Quint's monologue. No, I don't know who the hell that is. We know all about... I don't know who... Girl, you don't know Miss Quint. I don't know Quint. Who the hell is Quint? Who is she?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Robert Shaw played Quint and he has a monologue about a shark attack he once survived and it is film canon. All we know, and I'm speaking on behalf of people who have not seen Jaws, all we know is that Jaws is a shark attack he once survived and it is no film all we know and i'm speaking on behalf of people who have not seen jaws all we know is that jaws is a shark possibly the town is called jaws and we're gonna need a bigger boat that's all that's all we know girl first of all you are literally the only motherfucker who believes that the town was called jaws everyone knows the town was called amity
Starting point is 00:24:26 everyone knows that and wait you cannot speak on our behalf what doug can you get in here please yeah it's crazy that you have we need a third party doug who's what's crazier doug he's putting on his headphones definitively and you you i know you know what's weirder that i haven't seen sound of music or that bowen hasn't seen jaws initially i thought it was more weird that matt had not seen sound of music no then i grew up from jaws that fucked people's heads for years it literally is ocean culture like you can't look at an ocean or go to a beach without someone making a Jaws joke. You can't do it. I think they're kind of on par. I know why music is universal. And when I was growing up in America, I was in a landlocked state.
Starting point is 00:25:12 So we didn't fucking care about Jaws or ocean culture in Colorado. No Bowen. Because that would add to the mystique of the ocean and beach culture even more. So people in the middle of the country went even crazier. Doug, what was Jaws fever? Can you explain? Oh, I grew up in a landlocked spot. Hello.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And people would go on vacation. And my sister would not go in the ocean. Because of Jaws? Literally. Because of Jaws? Because of Jaws. Like, it fucked her brain. Like, she just wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That's wonderful. But also, the whole world knows sulfage notes do remi fa so latido because of julie andrews and rogers and hammerstein i totally agree with you that's why i'm saying i we we doug and i agree they're on par doug did not break the tie. He did not break the tie. Anna, get in here. Anna, producer Anna, hi. What's weirder? That Bowen has not seen Jaws or that I have not seen The Sound of Music.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Anna is Persian and has Persian parents who can probably relate to this thing that I'm putting forward. I will say, yes, I do think Sound of Music is like immigrant child culture. Right. Because I saw Sound of Music way before I saw Jaws. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:32 So I do think when you're kind of, I don't know why, but parents, immigrant parents seem to like Sound of Music. So you see that before. I do think it's just culturally what you see versus like. I think you might be onto something here because jaws is very american yeah it's very yeah that's and this actually ended up being a more interesting discussion than i ever could have thought thank you but so i think anna maybe a little slightly broke the tie in my favor i think so i think well, I don't think she broke a tie because she acknowledges the extremely prominent American culture that is Jaws. But I do think that there is an experiential factor here
Starting point is 00:27:14 that is kind of coming in with, I don't know why I never saw Sound of Music, maybe because I grew up in like a sports house, honestly. And like, just, I don't know. And also, you know, Sound of music is an international story international stars who who is who is bringing that element in the cast of jaws nobody i mean i could argue that roy shiner no this i don't i could thank you shaw is bringing it i could i could argue that um richard dreyfus is bringing it. I could argue that Richard Dreyfuss is bringing it. I could argue the shark itself is bringing the glam factor. Listen, I think if Steven Spielberg stopped me on the street and said,
Starting point is 00:27:57 Bowen, I'd be like, who are you? I don't recognize you. And if he said, Bowen, it hurts me that you haven't seen Jaws. I'll say, well, Mr. Spielberg, as an immigrant to this country, I resent the fact that you made an American movie for Americans.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Good day. I have to go get my haircut at Astor Hair. Thank you. But can I ask you a question? Yes. Think about this scenario. you are swimming in the water a massive shark fin is in front jaws did not popularize sharks existed before jaws yes i'm telling you bowen shark what jaws did for sharks is what sound of music did for music? American Idol did for Kelly Clarkson. Skyrocketed the Sharks.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I'm telling you, Jaws made Sharks the top of the Sharks. Jaws took Sharks to the top of the Sharks. We knew as a culture, as a world, as a human race, that Sharks are dangerous and will kill you. Not like this. You are so out of your mind. And anyone who agrees... You have come in... Can I say something?
Starting point is 00:29:12 You have come in today with a combative tone. And you've been very combative. No, Queen. And Queen, let me tell you something. Carrie Underwood could do Sound of Music. Carrie Underwood could not Sound of Music Carrie Underwood could not do Jaws she could never be that sharp
Starting point is 00:29:28 okay okay and if Carrie Underwood could do it must not be iconic culture oh shit just kidding I don't know why
Starting point is 00:29:37 I'm being such a bitch don't go after Carrie I would never I would never I would I would literally would never I would die for her her version of Alone from American Idol.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Kill myself for her. She did Alone? Oh, yeah, she did. Oh, she did it well. You can't do Alone. You need to have... Was that a duet? Or she did it herself?
Starting point is 00:29:55 No, she did it herself. Alone by Heart? You need that harmony. You need that harmony on the third, though, to make it truly sore. How do I do? How do I do? yeah i lost you i'm sorry um but you need anyway we don't have to argue about carrie we are here to talk about jaws keep walking me through this story in our few minutes that we have left let's just say this because there's the death of
Starting point is 00:30:21 this girl everyone's like oh there must be a huge shark here the bites on this young girl are psycho so then they're like well it's fourth of july and probably shouldn't close the beaches keep them open it's a huge time for business says the mayor who looks very much like a mayor now there's like the town sheriff who's like the the lead of the movie um he's sort of going back and forth on his head about whether to close the beach down. It's a very contemporary COVID narrative. Yes. Very that. A story for now, now more than ever, Jaws.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And so they're at the beach one day. He's literally at the beach one day when a kid gets killed by the shark. You see it. It's crazy. And then he still hasn't closed the beach down. Like there's people go crazy though.
Starting point is 00:31:08 At the funeral, the kid's mother says to the sheriff, we know that you waited days after this first girl was killed and didn't close the beach. So anything you do now is too little, too late. I'm paraphrasing here. And mind you, the,
Starting point is 00:31:20 the, the person who's like the coroner, like who's Richard Dreyfus has come and said you need to close down the beach if there's some sort of animal that's this big that could do this to this girl you need to close down the beach and he's ignored ignored ignored so basically um they finally closed down the beach but they're they're unable to get rid of the shark to the extent where they realize this is really a summation they must must go out to try to like kill it. Like,
Starting point is 00:31:47 so they put these, they get this little ship together called the Orca. It's three guys. One is Quint. This older guy I'm telling you about is like a shark expert. And then there's the town sheriff and this coroner who's like able to identify the animal, I guess it's those three guys there.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Oh my God. They forgot a skipper. They did not hire a skipper but the sheriff does have a wife that's like please protect us you know what i mean so um so basically they go out to to see to kill this shark and they're trying to attract it with these big yellow buoys i guess and um they find it and basically spoiler alert it is a fight to the fucking death. The shark gives it to him. The shark expert, Quinn, ends up getting eaten by the shark.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yes, yes, yes. I'm already invested. Wow. Oh, yeah. No, you need to... Oh, I can't believe I just told you what happens in the movie. But basically, they do kill the shark.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But then there's more shark sequels later, like Jaws 2, Jaws 3, 3D, which Dennis Quaid was in and said had a cocaine budget hidden into the budget of the film. That was in the 80s. This movie came out in 75 and legitimately it was like a rough time for
Starting point is 00:32:56 beaches because people were afraid to go on the water. I don't deny the impact that Jaws had on the culture. I'm just saying. It's just not your, it's just not your, it's not something that you touched until now. It absolutely deserves
Starting point is 00:33:12 a spot in the 12 Days of Culture. One thousand percent. But when you start to bring in the sound of music, I just, look, have you seen The Godfather I have not
Starting point is 00:33:26 neither have I and I think that that's actually important for me and my sister to connect on is that none of this really matters
Starting point is 00:33:35 because neither of us have seen The Godfather and that's what's important neither of us ingested that hetero patriarchy culture. I will say that I do love a crime movie.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I love a crime movie. Get out of here. What do you like? What do I like that's crime? Bitch, I love Goodfellas. I love... But he's never seen Jaws. But he loves Goodfellas.
Starting point is 00:34:03 But he's never seen Jaws because that culture is too American. You know what? You are a crazy boy. I really are. That's actually going to be where we wrap this episode up. Get ready for the name I'll call Matt tomorrow on day 8
Starting point is 00:34:21 of the 12 Days of Culture. We've got some great ones coming up. I think. Oh, thick, but for now we say to Jaws. State of culture. Culture. Real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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