Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Oscars And Other Things All At Once” (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Episode Date: March 15, 2023It’s Hollywood’s Biggest Podcast Episode About A Night! Matt & Bowen join together to discuss the historic Everything Everywhere All At Once sweep, the Jamie Lee Curtis of it all, the Angela B...assett of it all, the concept of a “career Oscar”, Harley Quinn’s obvious manifestation in the mind and body of one Lady Gaga on the Oscar stage, Gaga as the Musical Mascot of the Academy Awards, and the idea of “Malala Best Dressed”. Also, a new perspective on the Naatu Naatu Oscar performance from Producer Hans, Matt’s Big Broadway Week, coughing and wheezing in the audiences of Broadway shows, what happens when a Disney ride hits it from the back, galvanization vs. dissociation on red carpets, Cunk On Earth, the Girls re-watch phenomenon of 2023 and tap water. Hold Our Hand, Readers! Everything will be okay!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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oscar weekend it just happened it kind of came and went didn't it i feel it's been so long
every year when the oscars are over i'm like well that was long. Even last night. Well, we'll get into it. But
the result was very positive, I feel, for this podcast, at least.
I agree. I agree. Very happy with the result. But I must confess that I did not watch the ceremony.
I saw the clips.
I was in transit. I was asleep. It's tough. I didn't realize that people
East of America have it a little bit tough.
Just past the Atlantic Ocean, the time zones are tough for live television.
Oh, yeah.
It's so hard.
Well, LA really makes it all about them, you know?
With these LA live shows, they say we're getting in at five on the dot.
We're getting out by 830.
And so the length of the Oscars really doesn't perturb anyone. But then
if you are New Yorker or Eastward, you are up until the wee hours watching this very long ceremony
and what I would call a very long season of campaigning. The length of it all, the Oscars
truly are a marathon. Yes, that's rule of culture number 57. Yes, the Oscars truly are a marathon. Yes. That's rule of culture number 57. Yes.
The Oscars truly are a marathon. I did watch. I watched with a large group of people.
And I will say that it was extremely loud at the party I was at. I could not hear a lot of
what was happening, but certainly we stopped for some select speeches. We basked in Michelle Yeoh's glory,
friend of the pod.
It's incredible to say Michelle Yeoh
has won an Academy Award making history
and rightfully so.
I mean, come on.
Come on.
Let me just quickly backtrack.
You said you were at a loud Oscars party.
Yeah.
This is actually going to be a requirement
for me in
future years no more than four people yeah no more than four people on oscar sunday because i need to
be watching because what happened last year at the oscars i was at a big party really hated it
could not hear what was going on thank god i was home alone when the slap happened because i could
just experience the shock for myself if If I had been in that room,
it would have been chaos
and I would not have been able to process.
Yeah.
Here we are.
We're all trying to sit and bask in the glory.
I mean, look, was everyone like,
we have to, have to, have to hear
what Jimmy Kimmel has to say?
No, but I want to hear what Jimmy Kimmel has to say.
Absolutely.
I want to see how he approaches hosting duties in this very opportune year for that show
it felt like a year to really go back to basics go back to tradition embrace tradition even and
reject modernity which it seems like people really liked again i say this as someone who did not watch
the actual show but i watched the monologue yeah perfectly fine monologue and perfectly fine is
maybe what we need yeah i you do just miss the days though when you had someone like a billy
crystal like a whoopi goldberg really holding it down like it was the reason i tuned in even as a
kid i guess it's different now as like a movie ticket paying adults yeah yeah i mean i think
that they were just so nervous after last year they had to keep it completely like this is going to be by the book. Even like, it just didn't feel like there was any, and I say this, I don't say this as a pejorative, but there was no edge to the monologue, which probably was good. We needed a light atmosphere. And I was curious how they were going to discuss the slap. I thought the slap part of the monologue was probably the strongest part.
I love the panning around to the crowd.
You know, everyone was involved, etc.
And the jokes did work.
I mean, there were very few jokes that I thought didn't work.
I mean, I think he kind of bailed on that joke about the women directors.
As he was saying it.
Like, yeah, kind of like his heart wasn't in it.
But overall, I thought like, yeah, absolutely.
Like we got off to the start.
You know what I'm saying?
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
I have to say, I am going to be very honest.
Okay.
I feel like I am in a takeless state of being right now.
I have nothing to really offer.
I am not really consuming much of the culture.
I am not really forming opinions about much of the culture. And this is not fun topic of conversation. I'm like really, really, really spent. And it's not fun to talk about. Like, it's not interesting for me to talk about being tired. It's the least interesting thing for anyone to say. But this is like reaching a new level level and i'm sorry that i'm bringing this into the chat i i wish i had like a fun and excitement to bring during a time like
this when it's like a great oscars that like celebrated a lot of very populist movies and
we had so many people to root for and that things kind of came out in a very nice deserving way in
the end but yeah i am like empty mind well lucky for you i've had
nothing but time and i have experienced much culture so maybe this episode is me saying
things and you reacting at any any energy level you want to give but i love that because i have
tons to say okay so uh the academy Everywhere, All at Once, pretty much swept.
History making, the most Oscars above the line that we've had in the 95-year history
of this ceremony were won by one film, Everything, Everywhere, All at Once.
And would you say that this is a historic time for people using the term above the line?
I would say never before,
and certainly in the last 24 hours,
the words above the line have been used so many times.
Some people even know what they're talking about
when they're using the words above the line.
Usually they don't.
And I've heard above the line said so many times
in the last 24 hours as well.
Yes, well, above the line Oscars meaning,
you know, your best picture,
your acting categories,
your directing, you know, your screenplay categories. So we had everything everywhere
all at once when best picture, best director for Daniels, best actress, Michelle Yeoh,
best supporting actor, Ki-Hwa Kwon, best supporting actress, Jamie Lee Curtis,
in a race that really upset some people. And I'm going to get into it. Best original screenplay in what was also a tight race.
And just on down the line,
everything, everywhere, all at once,
a film that we absolutely loved.
That's right.
And championed.
That's right.
Took it simply all the way home.
Took it simply all the way home.
And it feels like everyone was really on board
for all of its wins,
except for best supporting actress yes
i found this so interesting the first time ever in oscar's history that one single studio
dominated won all the uh again above the line awards so with brendan frazier winning for the
whale that means the a24 for the first time in oscar's history swept above the line categories
now let's talk about this Jamie Lee Curtis thing.
Well, before we get to Jamie Lee Curtis, I just want to say, if you put a gun to my head and said
I had to watch The Whale, I'd say pull the trigger. I won't do it. You cannot get me to watch The
Whale. Whenever I see even a clip from The Whale, I am so deeply hurt, distressed, and offended by everything about it. And I'm not even just
talking about the absolutely just macabre performance of-
Of Sadie Sink. Just kidding.
Yeah, of Sadie Sink. Exactly. It really hurts me. It hurts my heart and my spirit.
The score that plays during every clip that they show, that movie looks so wild to me.
And even though it is an Academy Award winning film, with a gun to my head, if you said watch
The Whale, I'd say, mama, here, let me help you.
And we'd pull the trigger together.
I will not watch it.
I can't believe that's an Oscar winning movie more than once. You can read many pieces by Roxane Gay, Guy Branum.
Many people have much more eloquent things than me to say about this, but just know I stand with
everyone who is like, absolutely fucked that film. Never in my life, not even with a gun to my head,
please pull the trigger. So that's what I have to say about The Whale. Did you see The Whale?
I did not see The Whale. I share your sentiments. And so we can just sort of move on
from The Whale, which is something I'm happy to do. Talking about this Jamie Lee Curtis of it all.
Now, when you watched Everything Everywhere All at Once, did you think, Jamie Lee Curtis,
this is an Oscar contender, in your honest opinion? In my honest opinion, I will say,
if you were to ask me after I saw the movie,
or at any point
after I saw the movie,
between Jamie Lee Curtis
and Stephanie Hsu,
who is the bigger
Oscar contender?
I think there was
a very obvious answer there.
And then even throw
Carrie Condon in the mix
and I would be like,
oh, you know what?
Maybe still Stephanie.
And biases aside,
still Stephanie.
That's all I'll say.
I would agree.
But it's not a new phenomenon to give actors a career Oscar for
a film where they do a serviceable job.
She's wonderful in the movie.
Yeah. I would actually go as far as to say Jamie Lee
Curtis is extremely good in the movie.
What I think is annoying
about this weird backlash
to Jamie Lee Curtis' win,
which, by the way way if anyone's upset
for stephanie shu do not be she is absolutely overjoyed and overwhelmed with gratitude and that
i can guarantee you that was exactly the outcome that she wanted she wants nothing more than yes
yeah key michelle and jamie to get their flowers and for that movie and the Daniels to get their flowers.
Like, do not cry for Stephanie Shue.
She is way onto the best time of her life.
But the thing about the Jamie Lee Curtis of it all
is it's like, to pretend this was the worst career Oscar
that they've ever given is so crazy to me.
Absolutely not.
When that Laura Dern marriage story win
is in recent
memory. Yes. When fucking
like, I'm sorry, even like
Meryl Streep, Iron Lady. I'm like,
why are we like, we're getting an Oscar for that?
You know, like that kind of thing. This
is totally fine. It's completely
fine. Like, first of all,
Jamie Lee Curtis as a function in the
movie, Everything, Everywhere, All at Once is
hilarious.
She is the villain.
She works perfectly within the tone of that movie and they fucking love the movie.
So we should have seen this coming after she won SAG.
Either way,
this was probably going to be a career Oscar given because like Angela Bassett
and Black Panther Wakanda forever,
like is also amazing.
She's fantastic in the movie,
but no one left that movie thinking, and wow, that's Angela Bassett's Oscar.
Either way, it was going to be one of these two iconic actresses was getting a career Oscar.
They just happened to go with Jamie Lee because they were obsessed with that movie this year,
rightfully so. And I understand the disappointment for
Angela, but the thing is, I just don't get a hatred and vitriol for Jamie Lee Curtis
when there are way worse career Oscars that have been given. Laura Dern essentially walked
onto that Marriage Story set and did Renata at a six and won an Oscar.
Yeah, and I should say that I feel stupid
and silly for bringing up Iron Lady because
it was not in that category, but
it's all the same. It's the same
idea, right?
Completely agree with you.
I feel like
there was such a clear frontrunner going into
that night
that it was hard to pick villains.
I mean,
she was,
I mean,
Jamie Lee was sort of the most ready-made villain narrative to like,
for people to sort of latch onto,
I think.
And I don't think it's a coincidence,
Bo,
that in the year of the chic wind chimes on Beverly Hills housewives,
I mean,
that was a campaign move. When Jamie Lee Curtis went on Beverly Hills Housewives. I mean, that was a campaign move.
When Jamie Lee Curtis
went on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
and absolutely blew Dorit away,
you have to remember,
these women...
So chic.
They have...
That was FYC.
When she brought in her...
That was FYC.
My hand in yours,
my paw in yours,
her incredible product line
to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,
that was the beginning of the campaign, and we should
have known the Oscar was stamped with
Jamie Lee Curtis' name from
the beginning when she walked
into Kyle Richards' home and Dorit
said the word chic, the race was over.
When Dorit Kemsley says
so chic,
you're on the ballot, honey. It's actually rule of culture number 90. When Dorit Kemsley says, so chic, you're on the ballot, honey.
It's actually rule of culture number 90.
When Dorit Kemsley says, so chic, you're on the ballot, honey.
Honestly, it's just bizarre.
Like, and I get it.
Like Jamie Lee Curtis is such a, she's such a meme.
She's such a, because of the trauma.
This film is about trauma.
This film is about trauma this film is about
trauma but the fact is like she's out there busting her ass working hard and i'll tell you
what i really respect that they never do is they never ever ever ever ever give awards for
performances that are purely comedic purely genre and therefore in terms of a career oscar i think
this is a really fitting one for Jamie Lee Curtis because it was a
genre performance.
She has been one of the most iconic actresses in genre films for decades.
And don't fucking talk to me about Jamie Lee Curtis winning this Oscar when
you were rooting for Laura during the other day.
Like,
I mean the other day,
the other year,
like,
is it like,
yeah, the other day and everyone was doing it the other day and literally like i feel like i have this discussion so much with other
gay men like about the oscars that i'm like make it consistent you know what i'm saying 100
1000 i think it's pretty cool that a sci-fi film swept all these awards. I mean, very shallow assessment.
Oh,
but on the trauma,
it's a movie about trauma note,
like this cast,
like give it up for the campaign though on this.
Like I think it's been 10,
$10 million for the campaign,
a lot of money,
more than they've ever spent.
But this group of people between the Daniels and this cast and everybody
involved was able to find ways to talk about this movie as if it was their first time talking about it for
like yeah pretty much a year like a full calendar year oh yeah we had michelle on the show like
pretty much right after the movie came out and then we had stephanie on months later and that
was honestly before stephanie was like actually on the real radar for best supporting actress.
Like I remember thinking like, oh, and that would be so cool if she got nominated.
And then she started getting nominated for things.
And I was like, wait, like this is a really big thing.
It felt like the momentum kept picking up for not just the movie but for then the entire cast extended so honestly
what are the better oscar campaigns i've seen and also remember this movie premiered literally
almost to the day a year before the oscars at south by southwest which i also think put south
by southwest really on the map as a place where you can debut your film and it can go on to literally the highest
heights. So there's something to these festivals really early in the year, word of mouth, studios
investing in quality and in, yeah, sure, niche films, but investing in filmmakers and investing
in vision and investing in talent that is very singular to these types of projects.
Because this is one of those like once in a lifetime, once in a blue moon movies that only
comes together with all these different singular talents. And then the campaign was run really
fucking well. And there's no other Best Picture winner like it. Yeah, it's true. And so funny,
there was some write up about about the governor's ball after
the show and they were keeping people anonymous but they were getting a lot of quotes of people
you know irel but going like yeah yeah there just wasn't any surprise to like that movie sweeping
and it is just kind of and then some fucking exact they didn't specify them by name, but some person was like, it's just kind of disappointing to see a year where so many huge blockbusters were nominated, like Avatar and Top Gun and them not take home any big prizes.
And it's like, well, even if you take everything ever all at once out of the running, there's still no like clinched front runner in that, you know?
Like, thank goodness for everything ever all at
once being in the race this year. Yeah. I also think like, yeah, there's no surprise because
the Oscar campaign, the Oscar season continues for so long and everything ever were all at once
had such a campaign and such a strong hold on voters minds and the public's minds that it felt
like a blockbuster, like, you know,
big juggernaut at the Oscars. But also, not for nothing, but had you said a year ago that the
Oscars would have been owned by everything, everywhere, all at once, that would have been
a huge shock. So it's just like, yeah, maybe on the night, it didn't feel like big surprises were happening
and you were not entertained or whatever you wanted to feel during that three and a half
hour show because you felt like you saw it coming.
But to step back from it in a macro sense, it is a huge anomaly that something like Everything
Ever Were All At Once wins not only Best Picture, but that many Oscars. And is this historic of a moment?
So that's just to me saying just how kind of lame people can be about like,
kicking my feet about me not having a fun night.
And less about like, you know, whether or not what should have happened, happened.
That is ridiculous.
And it's a different kind of shrug than Coda winning best picture last year.
Right.
People were like, wait, what?
Oh, okay.
Like, this is more of a, hmm, interesting, peculiar, like, minimizing this crazy triumph.
Right.
Which I get that it's like, it's, at a this movie, a movie like this becomes easy to dunk on,
I think.
And easy.
It's easy to dunk on it.
Yeah.
It is not like the intellectually interesting thing to do.
I promise.
Right.
Not that I'm an intellectual,
but I'm like,
I really think that it's just like the reason it sustained this sort of
importance throughout the campaign without it growing stale at any point
was because it was a legitimately great movie
that got people to the theater to see it.
Yep.
That told a story about ordinariness
being incredibly powerful and meaningful and beautiful.
A thing that everyone can resonate with.
A thing that, like, gets my immigrant mom
to go see this this movie and cry.
Like it's,
I think it's pretty major,
whatever.
You want to know what,
there's so many narratives that are such winning,
like feel good narratives about this.
Like obviously like the history it makes for Michelle Yeoh,
who again,
like my rubric is always,
I've said it a million times.
Like,
could anyone else have done it?
This literally no one else could have done it.
Nobody else could have done it.
And so for that, the family narrative, the queer narrative, which often gets lost in the discussion, I think, creatives and I think for the Oscars themselves, because
even though these execs are saying whatever the fuck they're saying, like,
this is an extremely cool movie to win Best Picture. It's not stodgy. It doesn't feel like
everything else. It totally breaks open what studios may invest in as a quote unquote Oscar film. You know what I mean? It's not
like a biopic. It's not, it's never boring. In fact, if people have a complaint about it, is it
that it's completely overwhelming? Over stimulating. Yeah. Yeah. And over stimulating, which
is like, I mean, for a maximalist like me, like I fucking love. And to say nothing of the fact that it absolutely catapults our dear
friend stephanie who now everyone in town knows who she is and she looked absolutely beautiful too
god truly i mean just a radiant and beautiful person her whole life but uh it's like you said
earlier nobody worry about her she is someone who i don't know anyone who has a healthier relationship to
the artifice and the weird bizarre aspects of that business she just sees it for what it is
in such a fun yeah for lack of a better word like kooky way like she she's riding high on this and
it's perfect it couldn't have happened to a better person.
What I always like to do is I like to watch the announcement of the winners
and the five boxes.
Like,
you know what I'm saying?
That moment of euphoria that Steph like displayed when Jamie Lee one was
150% authentic.
I will say if one thing bummed me out,
it's that Angela looked upset,
was clearly hurt. You know what I mean she clearly
thought maybe that was going to be her moment and the thing is it would have felt incredible had it
been her moment and I completely understand disappointment but the fact is like so she
doesn't win an academy award for Black Panther Wakanda forever you know what I mean like it
wasn't the best performance of her career. Like it was an amazing performance.
It would have been incredible to see her win,
but I genuinely do believe Angela Bassett's moment is coming.
I really do.
I don't know that Jamie Lee gets another like huge opportunity like that in
such a weird specific thing that feels again,
very Jamie Lee Curtis in a way whereas like you know with Angela
like she was able to deliver like that extremely regal poignant there's like a leadership quality
and obviously in her performance as the queen in Black Panther Wakanda Forever that I think
is intrinsic in her there's so many things about that role that feel very Angela Bassett,
but there's also so much more that she can and will do.
And I think especially now,
so many people are going to be like,
we have to write Angela Bassett's Oscar role.
Like watching her sit there
and not get it was a tough one,
but I just don't believe
that she will go without one.
I really do think her moment is coming,
but I get the,
I get the frustration about that.
I really do.
Totally.
Totally.
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Gaga.
Gaga.
She needed no introduction.
Got the makeup off.
Period.
Said, give me the cleansing balm.
I'm doing double cleanse before I go on stage.
Give me the micellar water.
She said, house labs, makeup removers.
Give me the house labs.
And then she went on that stage
in torn jeans
and a big gray t-shirt.
And look,
she delivered.
At first I was like,
oh,
what is this?
It was scary.
You know what it was giving?
It was giving,
she's deep
in Harley Quinn right now.
And I think she is. And I i think she is you could see in her
eyes i was like there is something fucked up going on on the set of joker folio there is something
deeply dark going on because first of all her first words being i wrote this song with my
friend blood pop i was just like can you imagine not knowing who Blood Pop was
and being in the audience?
And like the camera cutting to Lady Gaga,
who seconds before was in a full garment and makeup,
now is looking wrecked on stage with her,
like a few members of a band.
John Williams is sitting third row,
hearing the name Blood Pop going,
who? Johns is there and he has to know about blood pop engineer doug says looked great and
killed it i agree doug i mean honestly too like i was also nervous in the beginning of the
performance because she kept it in the basement for a long time like that was not right but that
that's yeah but then she got up she went upstairs
by the end
oh yeah she got up
really did
and then did you notice
when Kimmel
in the monologue
like
threw to her
at some point
I mean I think
they're friends
like she's been on
Kimmel a bunch of times
and like
I think they like
each other a lot
but there was a moment
where like
she like
turned on
in a way that
kind of over corrected
I think she was being very in a way that kind of overcorrected i think she was being very present
just having the kind of gaga mindfulness that she's been in for her whole life yep but like
there's something different about this about it being you know joker mode literally and then she
kind of just like hey goodness like just like something kind of she's a laugh away from a tear
right now she's a laugh away from a tear right now. She's a laugh away from a tear right now. And it's very interesting.
I hope she's taking care of herself.
We obviously are...
There are no two people who love her more in the world than us.
You know she's not taking care of herself, though.
You know she's not.
I thought Chromatica was going to change things.
I thought it would be Gaga by foot, too.
And Chromatica were going to be, like,
the sort of bloodletting moments whereica were going to be like the sort of
bloodletting moments where she was going to be on the path to like healing and i do think she has
done a lot of healing i just think she takes on these projects where she has to fucking
self-immolate you know she has to like really fucking like suffer and you know that joaquin
is not the best influence either because he also goes all the way
hard in and so to think of the two of them doing joker and then even just the drama of her being
like i'm not performing and then the next day or two days later it'd be like no just kidding she is
and we had been told she doesn't feel she can get it together for the performance
and then them being like okay never mind she is and then the camera panning over to her looking
the way she looked i wrote this song with my friend blood pop and even if you're broken inside
you can be your own hero i was like is she about to crack you like, the alarms are sounding.
I think it was a very
smart move of her to really,
you know, it would have been weird if she
had any production element to it.
And so for her to be like,
let's go all the way the other direction.
I'm going to be in a t-shirt and jeans.
I'm going to be basically
sitting, kneeling in a squat,
whatever, and then I'm going to stand up at the end that is the
most action that's gonna happen on stage
that's the most blocking
great move great idea
truly very very very
smart and
I'm proud of our girl
I'm proud of her I mean she ripped it up I will say
it's just so funny
that like when she was initially
nominated for hold my hand for Top Gun Maverick it's just so funny that like when she was initially nominated for hold my hand for
top gun maverick it's such a big fucking movie and such a huge song that we were always like
oh it's gonna be fighter jets it's gonna be parachutes it's gonna be wind machines and she came out there looking like Tiny Tim and she came out there
barely able to stand
and gave that performance
that we were not positive
she was going to make it through
and it still
was a highlight
and she
never flops on that stage.
No.
She absolutely
she crushed Sound of Music
Till It Happens To You
was a fucking moment.
Like, Shallow, that was a moment in culture.
And this whole My Hand performance was unforgettable.
She is four for four on delivering, like, and I love it.
I mean, like, my friend was saying, like, what a thrilling career pivot, like, for her to go from the pop star that she is to like essentially like this fixture
at the academy awards and you know you simply know that if joker folia do is good she'll be
there again she'll be there again she'll perform a number from it which i'm sure she'll contribute
something to the soundtrack it is a musical. Perhaps even nominated for Best Actress or Best Supporting Actress.
I don't know how big her role will be.
But they fucking love her.
We love watching her on the show.
Lady Gaga is the Oscars.
A couple things.
I mean, remember that first time she did the Oscars doing Sound of Music?
It was this like, oh, she's there?
And it was in this rough patch in her career
post art pop i think pre joanne it didn't seem right yeah there was not a lot of certainty you
weren't sure where it was going next right yep and then that was when like your grandpa was like
i actually like that lady god she's she's got she can really sing yes and then from there just like
built and built and builds and the second thing
is with the joker folia being a musical thing um josh sharp has this great joke where he's told
you right where his it's a it's a jukebox musical and he's like i think it would be actually so
incredible if she and joaquin sing shallow if they If they both sing Shallow in Joker Fulia 2.
Wouldn't that be amazing?
I honestly can feel,
I mean, we've heard Joaquin sing in Walk the Line.
That obviously sits right in his register.
I really want to hear,
not just Lady Gaga,
but Harley Quinn sing as Ally.
Yes.
I mean, this is meta on meta on meta,
and it's film greatness.
Engineer Doug says, her performance was a very rock and roll moment.
Yes.
Strip it all back.
The danger was present.
No glitz, no glam, no maximalism, not even for Top Gun Maverick.
The winner of Best Sound.
Yes.
She just gave it to you.
That Not Too Not Too performance was amazing incredible electrifying
yeah congrats i mean have you seen rr i have not but i really want to i've been meaning to and that
fucking if that performance was not oh no wait what's han saying what oh han said not a single
south asian on stage for not Not Too Not Too? Okay.
Hans, explain more.
You can't just drop this.
What, Hans?
Hans wants to come on.
Come on, Hans, because we're not able to speak to this.
Hi, folks.
Hi.
Hi.
Okay, so explain what's going on.
Yeah, sorry.
I didn't want to derail the love fest for Nata Nata because it's an incredible song, a deserving award winner.
But I have seen, and obviously the people in the crowd and the audience were like electrified, enthused and loved that performance.
But I gotta say, my wife and I, who are South Asian dancers from back in college and have like plenty of South Asian dancer friends we just sat there like kind of confused the whole time looking at these faces who appeared to be
some form of people of color but we're like are these people South Asian did they just outsource
this to like a local Los Angeles dance company to just like recreate the dance from the
movie and I don't know for a fact that there were no South Asians on stage but reading a little bit
about it afterwards and just sitting there confused we were just like how could they do
this but of course the Oscars of any body yeah would do something like that it does appear that they hired napoleon and tabitha who i know from
so you think you can dance to who yes i guess choreographed the performance i don't know but
it was it was literally just like the dance from the movie which is an amazing dance totally and
i should add it's not just that i like i'm a south asian person who wanted to see people who look like me doing this dance, although that's important.
But yeah, it betrays the entire point of the song in the movie, which is that there's these two Indian guys at an all white party who are being like teased and ridiculed for being different and for not knowing how to dance.
And these white guys are like, do you know how to dance also?
Do you know how to dance flamenco?
And they're like, no,
but here's how we can out dance all of you.
And then they bust out.
It's like the most incredible dancing you've ever seen.
It's uniquely Indian dancing performed by two Indian guys
to put all these white people to shame.
So when you fail to cast South Asian people on stage,
you're like missing the entire point of the movie and the
performance on the song. So it's just kind of ridiculous. Yeah, this this IndieWire article
that you've sent us says a representative for the Academy of Muslim Picture Art and Sciences,
when asked about the background of the performances, dancers told IndieWire that it was
quote, incorrect that there were few, if any South Asian artists and the performance,
though they did not provide further information when asked for
clarification.
And I got to say like just the dancing on stage,
that is an impossible dance to do in one take.
Like when you watch the movie,
it's incredible.
It's highly edited.
And I think I had seen an interview with SS Roger Malieva,
where he was like, yeah, there's just no way.
That dance is so high energy.
There's no way you can pull it off.
But I think the framing of that performance as,
let's try to do the impossible,
was probably never the right way to handle it.
And it was just a bummer.
I think that every other song performance had some level of production.
Everything Everywhere All At Once song,
incredibly staged and performed. R, like lifted into the sky.
And then not to not do was like,
they just put a picture of that palace in the background on the screens.
And then I have like people dancing. So anyway, not to, uh,
not to disrupt the love vest, love the song, love the choreography.
I think South Asian dance is just like so good that even a mediocre version of it is really impressive,
especially to like, you know, non-Indian people who've never seen something like that before.
And they weren't like bad.
They just didn't hold a candle to what it could have been.
Right.
So I think that people are like rightfully blown away,
but couldn't on this platform
of all platforms,
you know, not at least talk about it.
Of course, of course.
Thank you for letting us know.
No, I'm happy that you did
because honestly,
I would never have known that.
I don't feel like it's that sinister
and insidious of like,
the audience is too dumb to notice.
To me, it just feels like,
one, I'm sure there's not
a South Asian person involved
in the
production of the songs specifically or somebody who was in a position to say like hey maybe we
should consider this i think they probably thought they hired great choreographers yeah nappy tabs
like legitimately are incredible like some of the best in the biz they're just not the right ones
for that and i think that when you're in a
machine that moves as fast as the Oscars does, there's probably just not somebody to say,
hey, hold up, let's like rethink this part of it. And I should say like, testament to how incredible
the song and the dancing is, that even an underwhelming version of it elicits the response that it did
like the first standing ovation i think like people just out of their seats enthused electrified
like there was nothing fake about that no i mean watching watching at home i was like that was an
unbelievable performance i mean like i you never i would never have thought anything and i have not
seen that movie yet but um everyone that has seen it
was simply like even with all the stars that they had nominated in that category and it's not always
in a situation where best original song has rihanna and lady gaga both nominated and they
have the opportunity to have one of those women on stage accepting an oscar which is a moment in
and of itself and a reason to bring in people watching it seemed like it was unanimous amongst everyone predicting it and voting for it that not to not
do was the deserving winner and so yeah that is disappointed for them to have not like come
through exactly on the performance but i will say as a viewer i enjoyed it thoroughly and made me
very excited to see the movie which you you have every right to, and that's
honestly what it's all about. It's like, does it
make you fall in love? Does it make
you want to go appreciate this movie?
So, thank you guys for giving me the chance
to talk about it. Of course. Thank you for talking about it.
Thank you for coming on. And we
celebrate you. And this
is, we've always said,
more of a Howard Stern-esque podcast
than anyone knows.
In that we have people come in and sort of pop in.
Not in that we have naked women coming in and seeing who can get tickled the longest.
Which one of us is the Robin, then?
I'm the Robin, 1000%.
No, you guys are both Howard.
No, we're both Howard.
No, no, I'm not.
I am not.
I have not, for the past two years been giving any
energy besides robin matt says something amazing funny every other breath and i'm in the back going
wow yeah i'm going really i'm i'm robin no i and i'm sorry this is i it's so boring for me to complain about how tired I am. And it's not fun to root for me and be like, hang in there, Bo.
But it is tough.
It is tough right now for your old friend.
Well, you are tiring.
You are tired for really good reasons.
I am tiring.
I am tiring.
You are both tiring and tired for really good reasons.
I'll say that.
I was also going to say Rihanna performed. Her and her pregnancy hormones were very, very, very present so she could deliver the vocals.
Yes, yes, absolutely. I'm bad Navy. I did not it that performance it's about one quarter of a song and so i think it's fine
that you didn't i said if that song was any better at all if lift me up was any more of a song than
it is she would have walked away with that award but the thing is it really is i mean and she
admitted it's a lullaby sure i guess I didn't know that the whole Malala moment
happened while they were setting up
the set for Lift Me Up.
And I guess Jimmy
caught a little bit of flack for that.
I thought she handled it great.
I thought she looked amazing.
She looked stunned.
She looked incredible.
Malala may have been best dressed
at the Academy Awards.
And sometimes that just happens. Sometimes Malala Malala may have been best dressed at the Academy Awards and sometimes that just happens
sometimes Malala
shows up at the function
and she is best dressed
yes
you always
always
always run that risk
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I saw so much Broadway. I'm so happy to hear more. Yes, I need to hear all your opinions
about Broadway. I have to say i saw what is it
one two three four yeah okay so get this after sizza which was incredible i then saw jessica
chastain in a doll's house the day we recorded last week's episode and then by the way it was
an amazing moment when jessica chastain and hallie berry handed michelle yo the oscar and then the
three of them arm in arm left the stage.
And that image was like, wow, gorgeous, stunning.
It's not necessarily representative of the best actress winners of all time,
but it was representative of, I hope, what the future can look like.
And I thought that was a beautiful image.
The three of them arm in arm walking off.
I thought that was wonderful.
But I just wanted to say that I saw Jessica Chastain in a doll's
house on Broadway, and I have thoughts and a review. I really, I've never seen a dollhouse
performed live. This was very minimalist. It's literally just the actors in navy blue clothing
on stage and rotating chairs that move about the stage. That's really the only like stunt
that the show does until the end, which I won't spoil,
but it's really just like a genuine showcase for Jessica Chastain's acting.
Love it.
There's no props.
There's no sets.
She is absolutely unreal.
If this isn't a Tony win,
then I don't know anything because this is like,
she's literally faced out to the audience pretty
much the entire time like even when she's speaking with the other actors she's rarely facing the
other actors she's really giving it out and just to watch her shifts her control her focus it's
really and by the way no audience has ever coughed more during a production than this production of A Doll's House that I was at.
I don't know what it is about.
It was just like everyone who was sick in the world was at this theater.
And I really have to commend all the actors, but especially Jessica, who holds the center.
It didn't deter her at all also seconds
into the like not not seconds minutes into the performance i was at someone from the audience
had to scream for help for a doctor and there was a huge problem and someone was escorted out it was
like a really intense moment and they started from the top, no. And they did the whole thing again.
And Jessica was just perfect.
I mean, I just have to say,
I saw this in the final week of her reign as Best Actress.
And I think it's so cool that what she decided to do in her year,
when she has pretty much any choice in the world,
huge, huge, huge actress,
and in her best actress moment,
decided to do this type of production of A Doll's House.
It just was such a flex.
And if you can go see Jessica Chastain in A Doll's House,
you really should if you're a theater person.
And sip some Delsim before you go in.
Try not to cough, please.
It's really giving cough
drops necessary or just wait
till you feel better to go because I'm telling
you, Bowen, every
five seconds. No.
No.
No.
That happened to me in Chicago.
Everyone's coughing in Broadway
now. It's a lot. It's not a
COVID thing for me necessarily.
It's just like, stop that.
Maybe just bring in like a water bottle or something.
And here's the thing too.
This actually is true.
Usually if you feel like you need to cough,
you can just take a sip of water.
Usually.
Yes.
Rule of culture.
What number is that?
1,000.
It's rule of culture number 1,000.
Usually, if you need to cough,
you can just take a sip of water.
Okay, so A Doll's House.
That was fabulous.
A Doll's House, I give a 9 out of 10.
Amazing.
And there's a stunt that happens at the end
that I won't ruin,
which made the audience gasp.
Oh my God.
Then, on Tuesday,
I went to go see Sweeney Todd on Broadway with Annalee Ashford and Josh Groban now this show is still in previews
and I think what I saw felt like a preview okay so I am going to be withholding my review of
Sweeney Todd until I see it again. And I have already bought my
tickets for April. I don't want to ring off any alarm bells about Sweeney Todd. I think that this
production is going to get there, but I'm going to go again in April so that I can be, I think,
very sure about what I say. That's what I'll say about that. But there's a lot to like.
And you did say something in the Marlon Mandela episode. What what I say. That's what I'll say about that. But there's a lot to like.
And you did say something in the Marlon Mandela episode.
What did I say?
You had heard that it was
Annalie Ashford's show.
That it's her show.
And she is fucking hilarious.
I'll say that.
Like, she...
You know what it's giving?
The choice is kind of giving, like,
Goldie Hawn as Mrs. Lovett.
Interesting.
And I didn't know,
based on when it started started how much i would like
that choice and i think it was the right choice for her okay there's just things about the
production that i think still need to like i think they're still working out sound and stuff
and and so like i'm just waiting until i got a ticket that's a little bit closer to the stage
until i can really like soak in it because it's, Sweeney Todd is my favorite show of all time.
And I just want to make sure that I've seen
what the production truly is before I give a review.
So I'm being,
I'm withholding on that.
Yeah.
But stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Yeah.
Okay.
Review incoming.
Wednesday,
I saw Ben Platt in Parade.
This was a 10 out of 10.
Wow.
He is like a weapon in terms of like musical theater performance he is such an incredibly gifted actor i and i actually had never seen ben platt perform live weirdly
enough even though he's a friend of ours and there were ample chances to see him in zero evan hansen
back in the day.
I just never low-key had the money to go see it.
Me either.
And it was always sold out.
I never could go.
So being able to see him live was incredible.
Parade, if you all don't know out there,
is a musical.
It's a Jason Robert Brown musical
about the trial, conviction, and hanging of Leo Frank,
who many historians believe was incorrectly and
unjustly tried for and hung for the crime of murdering a 13-year-old factory girl in Atlanta.
It deals with issues of anti-Semitism. It deals with issues of race. The music is absolutely
beautiful. It's just a really stirring show that I cannot recommend enough.
Michaela Diamond, who plays Leo Frank's wife, Lucille, is also fantastic. It's just,
you got to go see this one. It's really good. I think a contender for best revival and Ben
should absolutely be up there for best actor in a musical. I mean, his voice is fucking crazy Bowen.
It's like,
we all know he can sing and belt to fucking high hell,
but there's moments where he goes into his lower register that I had.
I was looking over at,
like I saw it with George Tavares,
Dave Mazzoni and Patrick Rogers.
And we were looking at each other like,
how it's just like,
some people just are able to do things vocally that others are just
not. It's wild.
Happy for him.
And then, finally, I saw
Camelot on Friday.
It was, I think, the second performance of Camelot
at the Vivian Beaumont and Lincoln
Center. It was a set.
Pippa Sue is incredible.
Taylor Trench is incredible.
This show needs to cut time
out of it. It just
is too long. Act 1 was an hour and 45
minutes? Yeah, the show started
at 8. I did look down at
my watch at the end of Act 1 and it was
9.46.
So again, they're also in
previews and I think some attention
should be focused on
getting it trimmed up you know what
i mean like just getting it to move just because it really is long it's a new book by aaron sorkin
um which may have something to do with that i certainly was laughing at a lot of it but i
wonder if we could be getting through it quicker sure and then i saw betty who on saturday night
and she fucking ate it up at Hammerstein Ballroom.
Incredible performers, dancing, choreo the whole time.
Vocals sounded amazing.
We love you, Betty.
We had an amazing time.
And then I went to go see my sister at Saturday Night Live.
So what a week for me, I think.
I'm so, so, so happy that you had this rich week, truly.
And it was exactly what?
What?
No, I know.
I can tell you need some culture.
It's really bad.
It's really bad right now.
It's dark.
If I think too long about it,
I start to really go to a bad place
and we will not get into it any further.
But I really do think that this is exactly what the doctor ordered for my sister.
You have a lot of life to think about. You have a lot of the world and history to think about.
You have music to think about. So many things stimulating you. And you are someone who takes
that in and processes it in the best way. It comes out as something very cogent and thoughtful.
And I always love hearing you talk about it.
I know the readers feel the same way.
Well, it's been medicine.
Yes.
Let's just say that.
But don't worry, Bob,
because I'm taking you to Disney World.
Oh my God.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
I need it so badly.
I can't believe that I'm going to get to be there
when you do Rise of the Resistance
and this Guardians rollercoaster for the first time
and that you and I are both going to do Tron.
I'm going to be there when you do Tron for the first time
since I've done it already.
Oh yeah, you've done it in China.
I've done it in Shanghai.
I remember it like it was yesterday.
Yang and I waiting at the gates of Shanghai Disney
before opening.
As soon as it opens, a bum rush of hundreds of people running to the Tron ride.
I've never run faster in my life.
Yang and I bolting to Tron.
And we were one of the first people to make it there.
And it was one of the most thrilling experiences of my life.
A perfect coaster.
I am so
beyond excited because to think about
riding this roller coaster like a damn
Tron motorcycle, face
first. To have the thing fasten
you and press down on you from the back.
Hit it from the back. Why don't you?
I literally, I, here's the
thing. I know it's the Magic Kingdom, but I'm
going to feel very sexual on the ride. Your back
is going to be arched, cocky. Your back is going to be arched.
Cock kicks out.
You are going to be primed.
Oh my God.
It's going to be sniffies up in here.
I'm going to be primed.
People are going to be ass up.
Like sniffies.
The visuals.
Yeah, the visuals.
Oh my God.
The visuals inside of Tron.
Inside and outside.
Don't forget outside of Tron, because guess what?
You're going outside for a little bit.
I'm so excited.
It's giving. You are going outside for a little bit. I'm so excited. It's giving.
You are going to absolutely gag for Guardians 2.
And Rise of the Resistance, forget it, Bowen.
Oh my god, the way we're about to get captured
and taken to another planet, and then the way
we're about to escape, it's...
Honey, pack the edibles. Honey, Kylo Ren,
I know that one. I know that girl.
I've stared that girl in the face, literally.
Well, she's coming for you.
She's coming. Well, guess what? I was cut out girl in the face, literally. Well, she's coming for you. She's coming.
Well, guess what?
I was cut out of white noise.
Fun fact.
Yeah.
And Mr. Driver himself was catching up with me about life.
And I was like, that's Kylo Ren over there.
I'm not scared of him.
It really is Kylo Ren. I'm not scared of him.
You know, one of the great phenomenons of 2023 so far has been everyone rewatching Girls.
And I, um...
Oh my God, literally.
It's so crazy now to think of Adam from Girls
as being Kylo Ren.
Like, to understand that that was his...
Introduction, debut.
What catapulted him into the stratosphere
was as the weirdest fuckboy in Greenpoint.
And now he's kylo ren the pilot
really does hold up so incredibly well it does for hannesler first lines to be i'm a growing girl
perfect i know it's like on the nose maybe but like actually works perfectly as she's stuffing
her mouth eating with her parents i'm a growing girl you eat it like they're gonna take it away from you perfect first lines of that show and then oh my god the beach house episode beach house yeah i
mean there's a line in that episode that is often overlooked it's where um andrew rannells's
boyfriend talking to lena talking to hannah oh yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes, yes, yes. The writer. The writer, but he's like,
but they're having a good time.
And then he goes,
oh, you remind me so much of my friend Kayla.
She's such a dilettante.
I think that's such a funny line.
She is such a, like, she's so wild.
She is such a dilettante.
And then Hannah's reaction,
Lena giving perfect, perfect response to it,
which is like, oh, that's so funny.
Or like something to that effect.
Like, it's so good.
Just that little, I mean, she can write a fucking TV show or movie, whatever.
Yeah, unfortunately for haters, the show is actually better now than it was then.
Agreed.
Like, it is, because now, now it's this weird, like, period piece.
You know what I mean?
Now it's this weird,
like, time capsule
of the 2010s.
And especially, like,
you know,
now being in your 30s,
watching it,
watching people in their,
you know,
early to mid-20s,
and, like,
the things that really
frustrated me
and annoyed me at the time,
now I watch and I'm like,
yep.
Because you recognize it in yourself.
You would say that for attention.
You would do that.
You would get into this fight.
You would not be able to stop yourself
from doing this.
Like, it's just really,
for someone who was just barely older
than that age,
she was able to capture
what it means to be that age
from like an all-seeing perspective
that is to be applauded i mean it is a really worthy rewatch especially if like you know you're
someone who's from new york or was living in new york at that time or understands the idiosyncrasies
of like brooklyn and manhattan it's just so yeah even the stuff about like liberal arts college
you know what i mean like all of it it's just completely... Yeah. Even the stuff about liberal arts college, you know what I mean? Like, all of it.
It's just... Completely. When you
get on that attraction in Walt Disney World
and see just how far Adam Driver was come
to being an audio-animatronic villain
in many scenes of an attraction
that is groundbreaking, Bowen, I'm
excited for you. I'm very excited.
In this moment, I'm most excited to do
Expedition Everest again. It's been
many years since I've done that. Really good.
One of my favorite rides of all time.
Truly, when you see Miss Thing, it is a gag.
When you see Miss Thing, it is a hairy gag.
It's a hairy gag.
It is a scary gag.
And it is a contrary gag.
If you thought you were going to have a bad time and the drinks at Nepal
the drinks in the animal kingdom in that section
delicious drinks
delicious cocktails
they turn all the way up
honestly I'm so excited to go
just indulge with my sister
and also I'm going to get you on the
Velocicoaster starring BD
starring BD Bradley darrell oh my god
i'm so excited though and you're gonna get your life on that i've said this before i'll say it
again i need this cannot come soon enough that is the the only thing that is giving me hope
otherwise i have been in a state of learned hopelessness as my therapist calls it learned
hopelessness yeah that is it's a very severe term
it's like a term
that's like more applied
to like people
in like really
shitty situations
yes
like an abusive
relationship
it's not quite that
but I am
sort of like
completely distorted
by work
and
can only identify
through work
and I know it's like
a rom-commy cliche
to be like
I'm a workaholic
but i hate it you saw me yeah you saw me on saturday the symbolic thing in this is that like
i can't even have a therapy session without it being interrupted by something work-related
like my last five therapy sessions have either been canceled because of a
work emergency or um during during the session something's come up where it's like hey we need
you now and i'm like this is indicative of the whole thing like designated protected time where
i'm supposed to like examine things yeah um are not respected.
And it feels like it's getting bucked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like,
I just constantly feel like I have to like sigh and it's,
you know what Bowen,
I think you have to like,
and something I've done is like,
I've actually,
and I,
I'm not saying you haven't done this or,
or that it's not a lot more difficult for you,
but I draw a hard boundary now. Like I keep my therapy appointments and I keep them. And if something pops up and they're
like, oh, could you potentially do it now? I just say, I have therapy at that time. No, I cannot
move it. And I understand that that might be more difficult for you because you are a, while an
extremely crucial and important part of a machine, you are a cognitive
machine.
And I understand that sometimes it feels like that.
And it feels like you're being handed a decision instead of being consulted on a decision.
But your time for your literal mental workout and your emotional workout is really fucking
important.
Really fucking important. Really fucking important. And I know that you
say that, but I wonder if you know that and if you could draw a harder boundary. And I don't
say that as like instructive. I just think it's that important. Yeah. Can I share the one thing
in culture that I am actually enthused about because I was able to consume it.
Yes.
Was Kunk on Earth.
It is Kunk on Earth.
It is a perfect-
Oh, yes, you were talking about this.
Perfect viewing experience.
Here's why.
Only five episodes.
Every episode under 30 minutes.
You can watch it in a day.
Yes.
And it is, every joke is landing.
Every joke is the stupidest joke you've ever it in a day. Yes. And it is, every joke is landing. Every,
every joke is the stupidest joke you've ever heard in your life.
Delivered by Diane Morgan,
who is truly giving you a tour de force in comedy and in commitment and in
just parodying all these conventions in mockumentaries in series about human
history,
civilization,
anthropology, whatever. Matt, you will will be obsessed you have to watch this kunk on earth how do i watch it how do the readers watch
the readers can watch it on netflix uh if you're in the uk it's on bbc you might already know there's
there was a series called kunk on britain this um woman named philomena kunk who is a fictional
character played by Diane Morgan,
interviews professors, experts,
asks them the stupidest questions you can possibly imagine.
She does one on American history.
There's an episode on American history
after the Industrial Revolution.
She talks about the Civil War in America,
and then she talks about Lincoln,
and then she sets up Lincoln's assassination as...
Let me try to quote it.
She goes,
Unfortunately for Abraham Lincoln, only five days after the north declared victory he suffered a terrible tragedy by being forced to go to the theater to watch a play
um a kindly gunman put him out of his misery but cruelly not until the third act like so stupid
like she's she's delivering it and like i'm not doing it justice but she is every. Like she's, she's delivering it. And like, I'm not doing it justice, but she is every,
the way she is delivering all these things is perfect.
You will love it.
All readers.
I'm sure readers are already ahead of me on this,
but kunk on earth is wonderful,
wonderful,
wonderful viewing healing.
I'm going to watch it.
And by the next episode,
I'll have kunk on earth thoughts.
Cause I,
I immediately respond to the name Philomena Kong.
I have to tell you that.
It's perfect.
It's just the kind of comedy that
you miss.
Maybe a fun companion piece to History
of the World Part 2, which I'm also excited to watch.
Yes. Yes, I'm excited
too. I'm in it. Blink and you miss it.
Really? Blink and you truly miss
it. I'm in it. I'm in History of the World Part 2.
Oh my god, I love that. I'm in a scene with Adam Pally. Oh, I love. I'm in it. I'm in History of the World Part 2. Oh my God, I love that.
I'm in a scene with Adam Pally.
Oh, I love.
I had a line and I heard that they cut it,
but that's okay.
Oh no.
I don't think so, honey.
Mel Brooks.
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Speaking of,
I don't think so,
honey,
I think it's time to transition into that segment,
which Bowen does.
You and I both know is our 60second segment where we rant on something in culture that absolutely needs a pulling down from the perch on which it rests.
And I have something.
It is Oscars related.
This sort of being the Oscars episode of Lost Culture 2023.
Okay.
This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so, honey.
As time starts now. I don't think so, honey. James Cameron and Tom Cruise not attending the Oscars
because they didn't receive individual nominations
for their films they produced
that were nominated for Best Picture.
I completely agree with Jimmy Kimmel.
I don't think so, honey, this idea that you're like,
go to the theater, go to the theater, go to the theater.
And then on the one night of the year
where it's the biggest night in Hollywood
and you're supposed to celebrate theater,
you don't show up because your ego is butthurt that you didn't get a nomination.
Fucking God forbid you don't make a top five list, Tom Cruise, for your performance as Tom Cruise in Top Gun Maverick.
What exactly did you do to merit a nomination over someone like Paul Mesko, who's fucking moving and brilliant.
And also not for nothing, but a new movie star. Doesn't this help the cause? I guess not because
nothing matters but you, James Cameron. I believe in the way of water and I believe in the seed
bearer, but I don't believe in your lack of attendance at the Academy Awards. It's hypocritical
and I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Like, it's stupid.
And the thing is,
you are nominated, James Cameron.
You are a producer on Avatar The Way of Water.
So you're nominated.
Show up.
It's just so transparent.
And Tom Cruise as well,
a producer of Top Gun Maverick,
you did get a nomination.
Like, that is how sensitive you are?
Ew.
The night is about showing up. Literally, the night is about showing up literally at the night is
about being there yeah and you're not there and everyone else is showing up like tons of people
were there that were snubbed like not everyone is gonna win like angela bassett lost her category
she didn't leave right afterwards she could have you know what i mean like give me a fucking break
as also as if you haven't been like lauded enough.
Come on. It's just stupid.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
And in a world where it is even a little bit fixed,
like you don't think that your lack of attendance isn't also hurting the movie.
Like, I don't know. Maybe if Tom Cruise fucking shows up at the Oscars, maybe like in a world where like the whole thing is fake,
Top Gun Maverick does win Best Picture,
but you wouldn't know and it didn't happen because you didn't come but luckily nicole kidman was there
giving the performance of a lifetime on the red carpet there's just some sometimes people do
certain things and you're like oh that's how a movie star acts like a little bit crazy i'm gonna
send you right after this someone dubbed uh the sounds they thought she may have been
making on the red carpet and it's a lot of this.
It's just so funny because
what she's doing is so insane.
Anyway, it's about showing up.
You're right. We can't blame them.
We can't blame these people
for looking a little weird behaving
a little weirdly when there are like a million cameras pointing at them but i totally but i love
kind of laughing at people acting weirdly in any situation i love laughing at people acting weirdly
and but here's the thing it's not nicole that is funny it's the situation that is funny and it's
her galvanization and her her sense of at
homeness on the red carpet which to me is like oh yeah that's what makes a movie star that little
part of you that's insane that knows how to do that on a red carpet and confidently can do that
thing where you turn around and look over your shoulder and find the cameras like on a place where you are not performing
necessarily but posing it is that meeting of model and movie star and like award show opportunist
that is perfectly combined in that moment like you know who else does it fucking zendaya zendaya
hits the carpet and it's like a performance on the red carpet. And she steps away and then is Zendaya a human?
But she transcends being a human in that moment.
And only so many people can leave their body enough to not just dissociate on a red carpet,
which I know what it's like to do.
And I feel like I've seen you do.
And I've definitely seen like Joel Kim do that moment where you get on the red carpet
and you sort of leave your body to be there for a photo. These people are like actively being photographed. Yeah. Yeah. And they
are kind of going the opposite way and be, and they are a kind of extra present as in like,
yeah. Hyper present. Yeah. Yes. Bowen Yang. Do you have an I don't think so, honey? Okay.
Here is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
The tap water not being cold.
I need the tap water to be cold as ice if it's going to go in my water bottle.
If the tap water is tepid, I'm not drinking it.
If the tap water is warm, honey, make it a little hotter so i can drink some
tea but i the only water that's going down my gullet is ice cold water and that is a preference
of mine that i think has done me right has done me well has not done me wrong yeah i think i think the whole world
could benefit from drinking ice cold tap water 15 seconds and i gotta tell you the uk or at least
the standard hotel in the uk in london at king's cross does not have acceptably cold tap water
and it means i have to ask room service to send me ice so that
I can put still water in it. And that's one minute. And you know what? At least there's a fix,
which is ice, which is easy to get worldwide. But the thing is when the tap water is a little too
warm, here's the thing. I know you metabolize it quicker and therefore you hydrate quicker.
I don't care. I just prefer cold.
I prefer cold,
but I prefer cold.
I need to feel refreshed.
And in the only way I can feel refreshed on a somatic psychosomatic level,
my mind thinks I feel refreshed.
If it's cold,
if my body registers it as,
wow,
this is a cold drink that you would have at any restaurant.
100%. I think we need to take this out
on a high note, literally.
And we do finish every episode with a song, Bo.
And I'm reaching out to you
and I know what you see I'm reaching out to you with.
And we end every episode with a song.
Hold my hand
Promise that we will be okay
I heard from the heavens
We're singing it so much higher than she did.
Clouds have been gray
Hold me close
Lift me up
I bet you didn't think it was a mashup.
Oh my God.
Hold me
down.
Do you even know the song? I've only
listened to it once. Keep me safe.
One time.
One time. Safe
and sound.
Fuck me
in the highest
place. Making up words.
Slay me when you go
off, king.
Lift
me up.
I'm looking at my sister.
Bo
and Yang.
Amazing. Thank you, my sister.
I dedicated that one to you. Thank you, girl. I love you.
Love you. Thank you, girl. I love you. Love you.
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