Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Oscars: The Season Begins" (w/ Brandon Scott Jones)

Episode Date: October 6, 2016

Oscar Season is officially here. Why? Because Las Culturistas said so, Haney! The wonderful Brandon Scott Jones joins to trash talk "Moulin Rouge," praise (true) Triple Threats, and prognosticate Osca...rs 2016. And oooo you know controversy ensues...LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 Jagamofino, anane Jagamofino, anane Ding dong, let's call Teresa's calling Hello everybody, we are back with another episode Let's Culture East is calling. Hello, everybody. We are back with another episode. It's been a bit of a hiatus. You know what? We took a little bit of a hiatus, not because we didn't love you and didn't want to come
Starting point is 00:02:53 back, Candy. We just couldn't get our schedules lining up. By the way, I'm Matt Rogers. I'm Bowen Yang. Guys, full disclosure. This is the Let's Culture East podcast. You know where you are. Full disclosure.
Starting point is 00:03:02 We're a little bit buzzed. Matt's eating some street meat out of a tin tray. Can I Full disclosure. We're a little bit buzzed. Matt's eating some street meat out of a tin tray. Can I tell you? I'm a little bit buzzed. We just had a show at UCB. It's Popperlet's Amazing Earth. And I would love to plug it. Please plug it.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah. I would love to say October 14th, we have another show, you guys. And, you know, the houses have been good, but I think they could be a little bit better. And I really want you guys to come see the show. Bowen and I are both in it. Popperlet, it's so fun please come see it anyway I had two glasses of Sauvignon Blanc at the theater
Starting point is 00:03:29 I had one but like for me yes honey for me I had I lack the alcohol dehydrogenase that you have of course culturally and so I can't metabolize alcohol in the same way so I'm a lightweight but here I am drinking some gorgeous,
Starting point is 00:03:45 but you know, our producer Joe has bought us a fucking bottle of red wine. So we're on our way today. And truly, I don't think we could have a better guest to join us tonight. Can I tell you how excited I am about this? I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And like, this has been, it's exciting for me to even be his friend. Same. That's how I feel! And then when we found out that he was a listener and he was a fan and he would text us every week and say he just listened to the episode and enjoyed it,
Starting point is 00:04:11 I... I die. It was such a life of... It's always a life-affirming moment for me. Anyway, I mean, let's list the credits. Here we go. He's on the legendary UCB Weekend team, Grandma's Ashes. Yes, absolutely. The host of Gentrify every week at UCB East on Fridays. You've seen him on Broad City and Girls
Starting point is 00:04:27 and, and this is probably the biggest one, he is in writer-director Chris Kelly's new feature film, Other People, which is just getting amazing reviews and I'm so excited to see it. I feel shitty that I haven't seen it yet, but I really, I'm so excited to see it and I'm
Starting point is 00:04:43 such a fan of Chris's and I'm such a fan of chris's and and i'm such a fan of our guests guys give it up it's brandon scott jones psj god thank you so much this is too good oh i'm so excited how are you i'm well you know how i am i'm nervous well the thing is there's no sense i guess i i'm nervous when I go on other podcasts, too, though. Sure. Because it's a very specific vibe. It's a very specific flavor, I guess. Yeah. It's also like, so here's the thing, is that I think, and I'm going to say this right now. No.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I think in terms of fan, I'm number one, maybe. I wouldn't dispute that. Well, Janie Stolar. Janie Stolar. I mean, we don't have the correspondence that I think that we deserve, but at the same still are we've i mean we don't have like the correspondence that i think that we deserve but at the same time i've like messaged her or like when you had like your new logo come out i think i like added her on instagram i was like god just see the new logo yeah i mean first of all thank anyone for listening to this thank you for listening because i think
Starting point is 00:05:39 we started the podcast and thinking like really that no one listened to us bullshit and talk but like if you are listening and you do listen we really appreciate it we really do appreciate guys rule number 285 of culture we appreciate our listeners our listeners honey we'll bring back the numbers and the merch you know the numbers thing like the number this number rule number blah blah blah of culture that's been an in and out thing but i have a master i have a master list honey do you someday i will release it to the public he said i have a master list and then someday all right so listen this is a great episode of lost culture he says because we love our guests and you know we start every episode of watch coast reads this by asking when did you decide that culture was for you brandon scott jones like as a young
Starting point is 00:06:25 brandon young brandon like what piqued your interest in culture you were like hmm culture what culture yes what movies tv books what you name it oh my gosh i have a feeling it's going to be very similar i love this i'm so excited it could be very similar i um let's see all right there's two things one i was a very unfun kid. I was not likable. No, I was fine. I was just a very serious very career driven child that wanted to be
Starting point is 00:06:55 a professional athlete and that did not pan out. What sports? Tennis. Okay, so tennis you've been into your whole life. Yes, since I was four. And you still play every morning? Well, most mornings. Most mornings. Exactly. Yeah, it's great. So that's that. And so I think
Starting point is 00:07:15 when I would have culture, I was very into what adults like. Yes, absolutely. Could you practice with a lot of adults? Well, I was around them. I took pride in being the one player that when we would go around to tournaments, my dad used to commend me for this. I'm like, you focused on the wrong things. But he was like, you know, all the adults liked you. But I would.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I would just talk to them. I'd be like, hey, Carol, how's it going? It was because you were respectful or it was because you could talk to them i'd be like hey carol how's it going it was because you were like respectful or was because you could talk to them on their level i think i thought it was because i could talk to them on their level yeah like i remember vividly like ordering by myself at mcdonald's and demanding that i do it and then just like recognizing the like just like the frustration of the day and the eyes of the cashier and the candor i had a few women like that in my life like my oh my god i'm
Starting point is 00:08:05 forgetting her name right now that's insane but an aunt on my dad's side like it was like a sec it was like a distant sure one time she said to me i was like 12 years old she goes you have a girlfriend and i said you to her you know what on and off and she goes i get it oh and i was like yeah and i looked her in the eyes and I knew we understood each other yes so funny and she was like 58 years older than me
Starting point is 00:08:28 oh no right but I mean I can sense that yeah on and off you know how it is yeah how's it going with you
Starting point is 00:08:36 you know my husband he drinks yeah yeah you know I've noticed I'm just like I'm not gonna play dumb I know
Starting point is 00:08:43 do we feel like that's appropriate? Absolutely. Oh, I grew up in Long Island. Where did you grow up? I grew up just north of Baltimore in a town called Bel-Air. Bel-Air. The Bel-Air of the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I think David Sidorov is from around. Our friend David is from around Bel-Air. Oh, how interesting. Really? Yeah. I wonder. Was it waspy? It's like a mixture.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Like, I, we didn't, like, my family didn't have, like, a ton of, like, money. So, I grew up in, like, and they did fine. I mean, I don't want. Dad, if you're listening, I know you're a fan. Love no. I get what you're saying, though. You know what I'm saying. But, like, five minutes away was, like, some of my best friend's houses.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And their houses were huge and gorgeous. And then even 10 minutes away was a neighborhood called Todd Lakes that housed like they were just such huge mansions. And in fact, at one point, Christina Applegate and Jonathan Sheck lived there. Oh, my God. I lived 10 minutes from Christina Applegate. What were they doing living in Maryland? Well, Jonathan Sheck lived there. Oh my God. I lived 10 minutes from Christina Applegate. What were they doing living in Maryland? Well, Jonathan Sheck was from there.
Starting point is 00:09:49 He was from like that area. He's from, I think he was from Aberdeen or Habit of Grace, which is like where they, you know, like right around the corner. And this is Christina Applegate post married with children, but pre like.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Anchorman. Yeah. This is pre anchorman. Yeah. Yeah. Because that explains a lot. Like where the fuck does she go? Yeah. Yeah. I know. She used to go, apparently she used to go to this local movie theater and like she would just like go during the day and watch movies and like i would hear about this
Starting point is 00:10:12 in high school and be like oh my god what is happening what are we doing here we've got someone intervene intervene i'm trapped in this jail christina abilade is wandering our town and no one's doing anything i know there were like a strange amount of like like um there was a wb show that filmed like in our town that got canceled very quickly was it it wasn't deadwood no not deadwood everwood everwood everwood no wb show dead i get deadwood and everwood mixed up oh um no it wasn't everwood it was um a show called you might have to imdb it because I'm going to get the name wrong, but I think it's either The Young Americans or The Real Americans. Was it about?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Kids in America? No. Was it about like, okay, there was a WB show, which was, oh, never mind. That was called Jack and Bobby. Oh my God. Yes. Remember Jack and Bobby? Yes, I know Jack and Bobby.
Starting point is 00:11:02 It was like about the young JF young jfk and bobby when they were young i was all in logan lerman and the older hot oh my god that was logan lerman that was logan lerms everyone's logan lerman i don't know any of these people perks of being a wallflower right yeah great oh right right right i never saw the movie i didn't either i heard that uh watson face was good and Emma Watson. Sure. Yeah. The whole thing was...
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah. Remember that book? Yeah, I do love that book. That book is a great book. That book is great. We should say, also, they've released new stills
Starting point is 00:11:34 from Beauty and the Beast. Oh, I know that you need more info. I need more and more and more. I'm just not getting enough from them based on that. But also,
Starting point is 00:11:42 Disney disappoints me every time. Speaking of live-action Disney remakes, today they just announced that they are searching for a for a fa for a fa mulan i hate that this i hate that this is getting buzz that it's like we're gonna find a chinese actress like we're gonna do or we're gonna step up and do it like yeah that should be the norm like that shouldn't be like a commended thing yeah of course you should find a chinese actress but anyway that's very exciting what do you mean that we're be like a commended thing yeah of course you should find a chinese actress
Starting point is 00:12:05 but anyway that's very exciting what do you mean that we're gonna find a chinese actress instead of like a korean actress or a japanese or like or like we're gonna absolutely because that's the trend and like what do you think that they're talking about i think i think you're addressing like the ghost in the shell scarlett johansson staff where it's so they're saying don't worry we're not going to find a white person. Exactly. Okay, well that's still not going to happen. Which is reassuring, but also like,
Starting point is 00:12:28 I hate that that's like, here we are, Disney has to make this kind of statement. Oh yeah. Is Kimiko Glenn from Orange is the New Black Chinese?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Kimiko is a Japanese name. I would assume she's half Japanese. Okay. Which I would, it's not, you might as well go all the way,
Starting point is 00:12:43 you know? I agree with you. You know what, like go like, all the way Asian, but full Chinese. I mean, I would, it's not, you might as well go all the way, you know? I agree with you. You know what? Like, go, like, all the way Asian, but full Chinese. I mean, I would even be fine if it was just an Asian actress. Anyway. Just because you don't expect the film industry to even cast an Asian actress. Sure.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Like, that's how stupid it is. Like, we can't even expect Mulan to be Asian. Yeah. Right? That's how dumb it is. Are we still going to, like, get, like, are we going to be fine if it's, but it's also going to be, like, are they just looking for Mulan? Because I think that's how dumb it is. Are we still going to be fine if it's... Are they just looking for Mulan? Because I think that whole thing takes place in China.
Starting point is 00:13:11 As the myth tells, yes. I totally butchered that sentence. No, yeah, of course. As the myth tells. So good. As the myth tells. So now they're doing Mulan.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah. We got Beauty and the Beast coming. Yeah. We hear about Lion King directed by Jon Favreau. Oh my God. Did you see The Jungle Book? I heard it was good.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Henry wanted to go so bad and I just couldn't rally. No, it's fair. I understand. I had to go because another one was sold out. I can't remember. It was like X-Men time.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And I was like, you know, I don't miss an X-Men movie. It's the thing that's a part of me yes i love x-men oh my god i do too i don't know i watched the cartoon growing up and then i like then like something about the movie something about everybody loves this movie but i do think one of the greatest movies of all time is x-men 2 x2 united good it's like i was the one i haven't seen oh it's the best one i know it's so bad i just i honestly can i seen what oh it's the best one I know it's so bad
Starting point is 00:14:06 I just I honestly can I tell you what it is you're a last stand guy can I tell you what it is last stand so when I was little I went
Starting point is 00:14:13 my cousin had a birthday and he took us and we were all gonna go see well he had one birthday one year we all went to go see Corky Romano okay
Starting point is 00:14:22 and I loved it I thought it was the best smartest comedy I've seen in decades. Sure. Then the next year we saw X-Men. And you remember the scene in X-Men when fucking...
Starting point is 00:14:37 Rogue is on the bus. Rogue stabs someone through the... She stabs Jean. I don't know. She somehow assumes the power of Wolverine and she stabs. There's a very sudden scene where someone gets stabbed through the chest and I just didn't deal with that
Starting point is 00:14:51 well as a child. I got very scared of the X-Men movies and so therefore couldn't see them again. I'm a very anxious watcher of things. I had to stop watching Breaking Bad after the first episode of season four because there was this horrific scene where someone gets their throat slit and i was like this is officially like too scary for me i can't watch interesting you stopped
Starting point is 00:15:11 watching stranger things because it was too scary i watched it for 15 seconds it's not that scary it is oh my god there is like the first two episodes are on the scarier side then it becomes like a mystery and then here's the thing though the scariest part of strength like i don't like anything that has like anything that slithers you know sure sure sure no you don't like the slithering the the kinesthetic motion of slithering yeah yeah it's disgusting but anyway i feel like that is like you get hints of that early on in the show i wanted to watch it so bad because winona. Yeah, she's great. I live. You live. But I just couldn't. I love her. Brandon, any other cultural moments?
Starting point is 00:15:48 So now we know you were a wayward sports child. Yes. And how, I have a question. With tennis, how good did you get and how far did you get? Yes. I was ranked in, I didn't, I never made national. So I quit when I was like 15. And then I was like ranked in the mid
Starting point is 00:16:06 Atlantic and the state and like that's fucking huge yeah regional yeah I was yeah which is cool and then I was like I was playing the tournaments to get you to nationals and then I think it was right around that time when I it was just a lot and was like I it was the only thing I had
Starting point is 00:16:22 ever done and I didn't really I realized that by the time I got to high school like I didn't have friends and this is like when I was like in terms of like culture and stuff like that like the things that I like grew up with were like I love Lucy Mary Tyler Moore and then I grew up with like um like other like old movies like oh my god have you ever seen this movie Auntie Mame of course oh my god Auntie Mame is legendary it's legendary it's Rosalind Russell she's like outrageous I thought it was like the best thing in the world my okay oh here's something real though here we go Wizard of Oz like this is like yeah this is like the type of fun I would have as a child sure
Starting point is 00:16:53 I tried to put on I loved the movie The Wizard of Oz so much so much that I tried to put on my own production of it oh and I made all of the costumes out of construction paper. When I say made all the costumes, I started to make all the costumes out of construction paper. But I quit halfway through because this dum-dum started with the fucking mayor of Munchkin City. And I was like, how many more Munchkin? It took me forever.
Starting point is 00:17:19 This is overwhelming. And I was going to play all the parts and then my sister was going to play Dorothy. And then... That would have been amazing. It would have been an incredible production in my living was your sister a performer as a child or were you making her do shit i was making her do shit yes exactly right it's like it's so much fun to be like a like a very just to make your sister do that yeah sisters are good about and she was younger than you yeah she was younger than me yeah you have a younger sister so basically i had i have a sister chelsea who's three years younger than me i just spoke to her today i'm gonna see her in orlando in two weeks oh congratulations i
Starting point is 00:17:52 know how much you love it i am so happy to go and i'll be talking about it a little bit later um oh yeah that terror terror oh that's a disneyland okay sorry but um so so listen what i would do to chelsea is i would dress her up in like her best dress, which is like, I don't know. What dress is good on like a 10-year-old? I don't know. I think like a tutu and a bathing suit would be good. Okay, no.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Never mind. She was four. Because it was 1997 and I became obsessed, Brandon, obsessed with Titanic. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God. Don't even. And I, by proxy, became obsessed with Kate Winslet and her like hunt for the Oscar that
Starting point is 00:18:28 year. Yes. Like really, really invested. So I would dress my sister up. I would call a family meeting and I would get like one of my soccer trophies. I wanted her like, you know, soccer trophies and I'd give it to her and I'd have her come out and I'd have her give an acceptance speech as Kate Winslet in front of my parents. And when she couldn't do it, I was like, what are you doing? This is the moment you
Starting point is 00:18:51 win an Academy Award. And I already valued that at age seven. Yes. No, I completely agree to that. I really was very, very frustrated sometimes. And Amanda, if you're listening, I'm sorry, but I was frustrated with your commitment as a child wow see this is interesting to hear because my sister older sort of did the whole older sibling thing where she made me perform stuff but i just happened to like it too so then we both just had a blast like like putting up fake talk shows maybe it's a younger sibling thing maybe like tried to like it okay but she she just doesn't enjoy performing. My sister just spoon-fed me a lot of stuff, and I'm grateful to her for it
Starting point is 00:19:31 because I just got into playing pretend and doing all this stuff, and then it sort of led me down this funny path now. What's the age difference? Two years. Two and a half years. So it wasn't that bad. And Yang is older than Bowen.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah, older than me. She had dreams of becoming a tv journalist she did not enjoy it after a couple years and now she is um really happy at her current job in communications so anyway she just yeah she was like another she was like a gregarious person that i just sort of learned a lot from and yeah you know so you were both gregarious and had the performer instinct yes girl yes god yes god whereas brandon and i terrorized younger maybe just didn't have the gene oh my god just didn't just didn't have the spark yeah that's necessary because you got it or you don't got it you got it or you don't and you know uh i can tell but i'm seven years old. This Wizard of Oz obsession, though, that's real. I feel like every child has that.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I know. There's nothing unique about it. I think I just, I was obsessed with the making of it. Yes. And I was obsessed with, I love that I know the woman who was originally cast as the Wicked Witch. Yes. Gail Sondergaard.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But then, oh my God, did you see on a VHS version of The Wizard of Oz in the 90s that came out, there was a featurette after the movie played of Angela Lansbury
Starting point is 00:20:53 talking about the making of it. And it just blew my mind as a kid. Yeah. Where she goes into all these vaudeville actors who are like being considered
Starting point is 00:21:01 for all these roles and didn't get it. Buddy Epstein. Buddy Epstein who inhaled the silver paint. Paint, yeah, from the Tin Man, and then he gave it to Jack Haley. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Oh, my God. It's crazy. There's a lot of trivia around that. The drama. The drama, honey. Oh, here's something I love, though. This is now, we're getting into teen years, so now you're getting a little closer
Starting point is 00:21:19 to what you're seeing right now. Did you ever see the made-for-television movie Masterpiece? Me and My Shadows, My Life with Judy Garland. um did you ever see the made for television movie masterpiece me and my shadows my life with judy garland no but i heard it's the best performance ever committed to film yes she's meryl streep said oh my judy davis and me and my shadows is the best performance ever committed to film meryl said that said that. Meryl Streep said that. When did this come out? This is like 10 years ago. Oh my God. Longer than that.
Starting point is 00:21:47 We're talking like me and my two guy best friends in high school driving around in the car silently for like a minute. And then one of us goes, um, so did any one of you guys see me in my shadows? And everyone's like, yes, we loved it. Oh my God. Good for you for having those guy friends who also watch. Oh my God. We all moved to New who also watch god we all
Starting point is 00:22:05 moved to new york city together and we all ended up gay i love it but i love that uh it's great the movie is outrageous tammy blanchard also as young judy has a great bit where they're telling her to give more eyes and then she's like really going for it And it is amazing. Can I tell you what you said that really struck a chord with me? Is when you were young watching I Love Lucy and Mary Tyler Moore. That was the Nick at Night that I grew up with, too. I loved Lucy. I loved Three's Company. I loved all those older shows.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And then Nick at Night became friends. I know. Nick at Night is like, like, friends. I know. Nick and I is, like, Will and Grace now. I know. Or we get old. Or we get old. No, I refuse.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I refuse. They don't play I Love Lucy anywhere anymore. No. The kids don't know what it is now. That's so sad. I know 11 a.m. on, like, Tuesdays,
Starting point is 00:22:58 they have, like, a Lucy block. But I think, like, I do love it. It's crazy that people don't know who Lucille Ball is. I know. It is bizarre. It's really scary. Yeah. Or, like, that people don't know who Lucille Ball is I know it is bizarre
Starting point is 00:23:06 well I yeah or like at least don't have like the reference because it was Thursday like every night at 9 p.m. was a Lucy episode
Starting point is 00:23:13 yeah you know what still gives me my goddamn life is Vita Vita Vegeman Vita Vita Vegeman come on bitch yes perform comedy Vita Vita Vegeman
Starting point is 00:23:21 oh my god the grape stomping episode the grapes um everything yes also the chocolates the chocolate when the chocolates came down the conveyor belt oh my god yes oh girl let me tell you something unsung hero of that show ethel you know what she's got a great line when ricky falls into the uh they're in miami and ricky falls uh overboard in a boat and she fell he falls into the water and then she comes back up to the surface and she goes are you wet and it's just like you know what you get it vivian vance vivian god bless her oh i love her god
Starting point is 00:23:55 bless anyone named vivian i know and she's a good later years when it was the lucy show and it was in color and then she just like that was the two of them right that was just yeah it was like literally and they called her viv i could live i mean uh lucille ball on the tonight show with johnny carson doing like her like her twilight years interviews is fascinating she's a total diva it's brilliant did you see the one where she's talking about her latest tv movie where she plays i think as she describes it a hobo wait was that she didn't she do anti-meme like on stage she didn't maim the movie she didn't maim the movie that's okay yes um i know i did not see this hope oh my god she's like i play a hobo like oh god lucy you still gotta think it's like she's so amazing on screen as like a comedian but the thing is
Starting point is 00:24:41 like you get the sense that she was like really she had had it her whole life she just fucking had it oh my god yeah she was done she was clocked well her and judy are just like these these like early yeah tales of of hollywood stardom i don't know i feel i always feel i always shed a tear for judy yeah oh god easy i mean like i mean the poor girl was on pills from like early on they were telling her you couldn't eat. They gave her little things to put in her nose to turn her nose out. And she powered through. They just gave her drugs to keep her alive.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Oh, my God, I know. And God bless her, she pumped out another star. Pumped out another star. Oh, my God. She popped out Liza. God bless her. She made Liza. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:23 If that's the cocktail to get Liza Minnelli, sign me up right now. The real star of that family is Lorna. Lorna Liza. God bless her. She made Liza. I know. If that's the cocktail to get Liza Minnelli, sign me up right now. The real star of that family is Lorna. Lorna Loft. Oh, God. Lorna. Have you ever seen Grease 2? Have you seen Grease 2? I think so.
Starting point is 00:25:32 On my mod team, Sarah Grace Wellborn keeps pitching a Lorna Loft sketch. Oh, my God. Do it. Desi on my team, guess like can do judy and like anna can do like someone like liza or something interchangeable and sarah grace is like i'll be lorna love everyone's like we don't get it oh no i want it so bad you know what i don't it'll be for the three of us it will be i will come sit front row. And here's the thing. And here's, if, if, if your team choir is the name of it, if choir,
Starting point is 00:26:07 um, Matt sketch team is listening. Um, you don't need to know who Lorna is to still get that. It's still funny. It is still very funny just to see the, to see the family together. Once again,
Starting point is 00:26:18 it's the fact that you don't know who Lorna left is and you don't have a vocabulary around her. That makes it funny. Yes. And have you, and have you seen any videos of liza and lorna today and they're talking about their relationship oh oh i need that they're like sitting there together and liza's just like oh god i love her i love her and then like lorna's like yeah we talk every oh it's like um they like it feels very it feels still like i do feel i was just
Starting point is 00:26:46 like i was just thinking about this the other night i'd had a couple wines and i was doing my usual youtube crawl through old hollywood and um i uh was thinking to myself uh watching uh somebody also i think probably a mutual friend of ours had posted one of my favorite clips, which was Liza on a Larry King episode, which is a compilation. And she's, and then also Liza on a QVC, QVC where like people will call it like my favorite moments are just like, like Liza,
Starting point is 00:27:16 you're just my favorite. I'm so excited to be able to talk to you. She's like, Oh, thank you so much. And you know what? It was so great to talk to you and I'll remember it forever. It's like, Oh, you are on, you are like literally and you know what it was so great to talk to you and i'll remember it forever it's like oh you are on you are like literally you know you can go from being completely off
Starting point is 00:27:30 to being completely on and i a think that's like the most respectable quality in another human being that is like i would love to see you be disinterested in something and then turn on pretend to be interested you know what's gonna be a true sight is mariah carey in 20 years oh god have you seen her on gbc now oh yeah i mean she's truly a puddle oh my god the woman's a puddle god bless her though but like i mean like god bless her god bless her but she is like what is she doing what is she i don't know is it drugs is it too much drinking is it what is she just insane talk to mateo lane about it because like he's got some ideas i'm sure he does future guest mateo lane he'll spill the tea yeah he uh yes well apparently she also like
Starting point is 00:28:11 worked with a bunch of ucb people on like a short sketch for funnier die for funnier die and like she was kind of a nightmare oh no yeah she showed up late to set like she showed up like three hours oh i think i might have heard my first concert first concert ever, Mariah Carey. Mariah. Madison Square Garden. Very nice. It was the Rainbow Tour. Oh, my gosh. And the conceit of the concert was Mariah versus Bianca. Her evil-
Starting point is 00:28:32 And her evil alter ego was Bianca. Heartbreaker. Heartbreaker, yeah. Heartbreaker video. And that was the whole thing. And I remember, I was like, is this every concert? Did every concert have like a story? And my parents were like, yes.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Every concert has a story. That's a good first concert. And I have like a story and my parents were like yes every concert has a story that's a good and i was like really that's great and then like of course that's the only one that had that kind of narrative and in the playbill it was like you might see bianca it might be mariah and it was just like she'd come out like it looked like carmen fucking san diego i don't know it was crazy and the first words she said when she came out were, do you like the ensemble? And she was dressed as a sailor.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh my God. It did. She performed Honey. Oh honey, you can have me when you want me. I love that shit. I love Mariah.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I was listening to Don't You Remember. You don't like her? No. Oh my God. A legend to me. Oh my God. like i love mariah okay like i let me tell you and i've i really try to fight for mariah a lot yes good we people i
Starting point is 00:29:32 can't anymore no it's i that that weariness what were you going to say because i feel like i cut you off no you didn't i just said i listened to and you don't remember off her second album emotion so good anyway but you people do need to defend her even mateo is getting tired of defending mariah which is huge it's like she's uh it's like i i she's making it hard she's making it and it's like here's not a human i i think so but like if you like you remember her cribs where like she was like you you can't go in that room i'm not showing you this room and like they left that part in there she was like that's just for. Is it her cribs or it might've just been like, no,
Starting point is 00:30:06 it must've been like entertainment, entertainment weekly, just being like, or entertainment tonight being like, let's see it. Um, but like, there was a moment of just like pure sadness where she's like,
Starting point is 00:30:14 you can't go in here. This room is for me. And it had like a piano in it. And it was like, I was like, Oh, that's that. What's in there.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Something's important. I know. It was like a metaphor. Yeah, sure. Sure. That is. Yeah. That's like, that Something's important. Yeah. I know. And it was like, it was like a metaphor. Yeah, sure. Sure. That is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's like, that's a glimpse into something. I mean, someone that I know that like apparently knows her pretty well recently was like, refer to her children as props. Oh, and I was like, that is,
Starting point is 00:30:40 uh, that's tough. I don't want to, I, that stuff like it makes me so sad. She's engaged to like some new billionaire well he's a billionaire and it's because she needs money i know i mean she's got she's got an expensive lifestyle yeah i think she probably i mean imagine being mariah carey
Starting point is 00:30:54 she's probably used to waking up and paying thousands of dollars to get her makeup done and her clothing and everything like that but she's not pulling in that kind of money anymore yeah she's not that kind of recording artist anymore i guess like i mean like do you think like she's still like i mean like her old her classics her hits and stuff like that i mean like aren't she probably makes residual money off quite a bit and i'm sure she's a lot of money off the christmas time oh my god did you um yeah guys remember her um hey santa song i think it's great i like it but it's also like, I really like it, actually. I'm kidding. But it's also like an insane song. It's an insane song.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That other song, Santa's Gonna Come and Make You Mine This Christmas. That's the same one. Oh, it's the same one. Santa's gonna come and make you mine this Christmas. What is that? Oh my God, you've got it. What is that? You have not heard it.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I don't accept it. Oh my God, play it. She released a second Christmas album. Santa's gonna come And make you my Miss Christmas It sounds like something I don't write You sound the most like it
Starting point is 00:31:48 You will love this song She came out with a Christmas album in 2009 2010 called Merry Christmas MC To Her second album To you
Starting point is 00:31:57 Roman numeral No not a Roman numeral I think it was actually I think it was just An Arabic numeral to you Letter U And it has some new Christmas hits honey
Starting point is 00:32:04 She does a cover of Christmas time is here From Peanuts From Charlie Brown Christmas It's quite an Arabic numeral 2 U, letter U, and it has some new Christmas hits, honey. She does a cover of Christmas Time is Here from Peanuts from Charlie Brown Christmas. Yeah. It's quite good. She's great. It's so good. I love it. I love it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I gotta say, I mean, I'm just disappointed with what it's become. Sure. Because I truly loved her. Oh, my God. And it makes you feel like, wow, if it can happen to her, it probably will happen to everyone else. Like, anyone that gets to that level, like, if you think that Beyonce isn't isn't like destined for some craziness yeah sure you're wrong oh no it's like what it's what beyonce is going to be at like 50 is like probably something that i think might keep
Starting point is 00:32:34 me alive for a little bit longer you know what i'm saying like i mean like i'm talking like what will the coat look like what will like also like she'll be tina knows oh yeah oh like, what will the coat look like? Yes. What will, like, also, like, She'll be Tina Knowles. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. What will Blue Ivy look like? What will Blue Ivy be like? My joke that I always do to everyone is like,
Starting point is 00:32:50 oh, my God, did you hear Tina Knowles' new single? Like, any second now you're going to get a single from Tina Knowles. I support Tina. It's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:32:57 boom, she wally wally, she bang bang, I fuck every man. Have you listened to the new Solange album? I have. Excellent. And the new videos are great.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I do love Solange. I am behind on that one, guys. Yeah, oh, it's a good one. I'm very excited. I'm excited that there's new Solange. Look up the video for Cranes in the Sky and Don't Touch My Hair. Cranes in the Sky? Great, great songs.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay. Yeah. Beautiful visuals. Very cool. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I'm a dude. You're a dude. And Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk?
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Starting point is 00:35:15 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother, trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez,
Starting point is 00:35:31 will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy
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Starting point is 00:37:09 You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeartWomen Sports. I believe it. I would, yeah. Like, in terms of, like, craziness, like, I would say that, like. Solange is insane. She's also, yeah. I mean, like.iness like i would say that like solange is insane she's also yeah i mean like it's oh yeah wacko wacko she i love it though she had her first debut album very fun she had her first debut album come out in 2008 which was like a very solo star it was called it was something like that it's not a lie it's called
Starting point is 00:37:38 solo star um and then and then they had her they interviewed her on some local morning talk show where the host casually said Jay-Z. And then they turned it to... And then it was a split screen. Solange was somewhere else. And they were just sort of beaming back and forth. And then as soon as they cut to Solange, they're like, welcome, Solange. Thanks so much for being with us.
Starting point is 00:38:00 She goes, you said something. You brought up my brother-in-law's name. I do not appreciate that. That is not your business to say like she just just completely was so rude
Starting point is 00:38:09 to these people it was yeah I've actually seen that interview she doesn't really give a fuck yeah it's great she really doesn't and it's so funny
Starting point is 00:38:15 because Beyonce gives so many fucks and Solange doesn't give a single fuck I my my sister told me I should speak to mine there it is
Starting point is 00:38:24 that's the Beyonce there that's it let me feel so good that I'm fine I'm flawless alright um my
Starting point is 00:38:31 I had a Craigslisted roommate uh huh come on that I'm fucking I'm just kidding no I have a Craigslisted roommate
Starting point is 00:38:39 and he this is this is guys we're talking um this is 2004 okay um and he moves into me and my best friend's apartment at the time because we cannot afford to pay our two-bedroom apartment rent so he moves into my room and then we rent out the third of the second excuse me and it casually
Starting point is 00:38:59 drops that he went to high school with beyonce oh and i know yeah in houston and um that has stayed with me because i feel like and i have to be i'm confessing this here on this podcast i didn't ask enough questions yeah i was gonna say did you pursue that nothing and like i was like because at the time like i think crazy love Love comes out 2003. 2003. Yeah. 2003. So it's like Beyonce. And I don't even think for a second I wasn't obsessed with Destiny's Child. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:39:31 But I was so- I felt like she betrayed- I felt like she betrayed- Oh, what were you going to say? I want to know what you were going to say. There was a moment in time in 2004, 2003 where I was like, Beyonce betrayed Destiny's Child. No. You know what no
Starting point is 00:39:45 i see you're very staunch i need to hear both opinions about this i'm gonna moderate i'm gonna talk about this i'll wait all right because i know who the pen says i know who the cane is i'm just kidding wait i cut you off bsj what were you gonna say what were you gonna say about i'm saying no i just feel like i didn't i was like i was like it just didn't register to me yet it was like i think as soon as crazy in love came out i think i was like i was like it just didn't register to me yet it was like i can't i think as soon as crazy and love came out i think i was feeling a very a lot of the similar same things of like like why like why did you leave and also you guys had just like i think survivor had just come out right or that was coming or like not long before that not long
Starting point is 00:40:18 before and then when they got back together the next year for lose my breath yeah and for destiny fulfilled the other their last album i was like oh all is well on the case it felt like it was going to be very simultaneous like beyonce's solo career and destiny child would still stay around right right right kelly roland has some good singles she's a great i fucking love kelly oh my god i know oh my god do you know what's the name of that one with no no oh oh uh motivation motivation Yeah. Lil Wayne's rap in motivation. Makes you hurt your back? Yes. Baby, my butthole tickles.
Starting point is 00:40:48 My butthole be tickling. Tickle, tickle, tickle. It is literally like... I'll tell you what makes me... It's like pools in my butt. What makes me open up like a store is lay it on me. Lay it on me, baby. Lay it on me.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Oh, lay it on me. Oh, lay it on me. I'll be like Barnes & Noble at 10 a.m. Kisses down. My doors fly right open. Come on in, bitch. Get your Harry Potter for Lay It On Me. Harry Potter for the 10 a.m. release. I have a full heart emoji right now.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I'm literally like, literally my eyes are like hearts above you guys right now. You guys are the fucking. my eyes are like hearts at both of you guys right now. You guys are the fucking... Lay it on me. Oh. Lay it on me. I'm full Barnes and Noble at 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Can I tell you what, Harry? Come get your Harry Potter. Can I tell you what the best... Get that on a fucking t-shirt. Merch. Don't you guys suppose that merch? Honestly, wait. Wait, we should...
Starting point is 00:41:42 Last Culture Recess, even you at home can get a shirt that says i open up like a barnes and noble at 10 a.m come get your
Starting point is 00:41:50 harry potter the only good thing ginger mench has ever said i flood my basement bitch it's a good line um wait is that a
Starting point is 00:41:58 line from drag race yeah ginger mench said the gin wait which part ginger mench she sees it was like during season seven she sees a pit crew
Starting point is 00:42:04 member she sees a choreographer. She goes, when I saw him, I about flood my basement. Oh my god. Guys, listen, that was another stressful moment that I had on the train ride here. You realize you hadn't been up to date? I'm not up to date. I want to let you know I appreciate and I'm aware.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So I'm literally like, oh my god. don't be ashamed there's no shame guys um adore Delano oh
Starting point is 00:42:29 just left oh okay okay so I thought you were gonna say like you haven't watched season 8 okay I thought you were
Starting point is 00:42:35 gonna say something insane like that I also haven't watched season 8 you're a bitch I know I did I watched a little bit of it but I don't
Starting point is 00:42:40 have enough to say about it so I'm just saying flat out that I didn't watch it that's okay I was watching here and there and it's not that I don't love it i have a fucking
Starting point is 00:42:46 night that i'm supposed to go to every thursday night to watch it and i just can't make it because come with us tomorrow i um yes as long well i think i might already have plans no i can't tomorrow i'm going to see oh hello tomorrow oh great oh yeah yeah i'm very excited that's gonna be really fun i know it's really good i know i'm very excited. That's going to be really fun. I know. It's really good. I know. I'm very excited. Anyway, where were we? Is it a musical? I don't think so. Okay. But I mean, like, it very well could be.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I don't know. I mean, I do. Oh, that's another thing. You're talking about culture. Ooh. Love those musicals. Oh, come on. Musicals.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I love them so much. Okay, so can I tell you, when I was younger, we went to go see Hairspray with the original Broadway cast. Yeah. And this was Marissa Jarrett Winokur, Matthew Morrison, and as Amber Von Tussle, Laura Bell Bundy. And can I tell you who stole the whole gig? Who? Laura Bell Bundy.
Starting point is 00:43:38 She was giving you the highest notes you ever heard. And I was in the back fucking row, because those seats are hard to get. Oh my god, I got my life for her. She's great. I know. You're not a bit Laura Bell Bundy, man? Now she's racist. Now she fully did a racist character.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Yeah, she plays Chauquen Tell Brown. Who owns a weave shop. I do not know this. I'm not a fan of Laura Bell Bundy. I do love her. She has a side comedy career. What? Doing character videos?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Puts character videos online. She has a character named Show Cantel Brown, which is literally just like... So tone deaf. Like ghetto, fabulous, white girl. Oh my God. Lives in a Holiday Inn. Literally, she lives in a Holiday Inn. It's rough.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And listen, I've loved Laura Bell Bundy since the Hairspray soundtrack, since fucking Legally Blonde the musical. Listen, just because someone is a talented singer doesn't mean they're fucking smart at all. Sure, sure, sure. No, it's true. You guys want to know the age difference between us? You know, I auditioned for Hairspray the musical.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You did? But also in an open call in Baltimore. I cut school and I went down and i oh my god they were doing like a nation but i know i don't know if there was like a nationwide thing it was just like but they probably definitely went to baltimore they did go to baltimore to cast and then i like went in and i sang um i had to sing like a doo-wop song or like a 50s song oh my god oh my god anyway yeah did not um did not make it it would have been my dream to even do an open call as a kid for anything yeah my parents were like why would you want to go act yeah it was yeah but
Starting point is 00:45:10 that's like i was always so scared i didn't do anything i've talked about this on the show oh yeah i'm so surprising you're just pretending to be like surprised by all this stuff but i've like listened to the show just so scared of being gay just so scared oh my god you can't no i mean like i can that that's the whole other fucking episode where yeah you did track and i went to states and everything like that i don't think i was at the level that you were out of tennis but like i don't know i was good and like that was what i was known for and i was like thank god they know me for being fast and like occasionally like the funny kid in class and they're not calling like the gay kid oh man god see like i know i got the gay kid and like i was like oh yeah it was
Starting point is 00:45:46 like seventh grade was the worst and by the time i think i was in like and by the time i was like that's when i wasn't even like i did like my first play in seventh grade but like it wasn't even like it didn't get bad until i guess like seventh and eighth grade and then by like 10th or 11th grade i think uh i'd like assimilated myself as just like, oh, there he goes. You know what I'm saying? Like still holding on to his like heterosexuality, but like completely like obvious, like teachers could tell, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But I still was like very much holding on to it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 But I, I, I like that bullying side of it stopped. I don't know. So you did get to a place in high school where you did have friends and felt. Yeah, I think I was. Yeah. Like my first like, like, like, yeah, like, I did have, like... I had, like, a childhood best friend, and then I had, like, friends in... Like, I guess I had, like, two, like, my girlfriends in middle school.
Starting point is 00:46:34 God, Megan and Anna. Yeah, we all have those. And I'm more named Allie and Rachel. Yeah. In high school? Middle school. Middle school. It was Vicky and Jeanette and Vicky.
Starting point is 00:46:45 You know, the ones who three-way call bully you. Okay, but Vicky ended up egging my house. What? Wait, what is happening? She, listen, like this all came rushing back to me last week. I was like, oh yeah, this was Vicky. It was Vicky and she denied it. And then I found her the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And I think we made up. Of course you forgave her at the time because what are you going to do? Throw away your one fucking friend? Exactly. And now I'm like, I remember it last week out of nowhere and I was like, wait, that's awful.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And I have this vision seared into my brain of my dad at 2 a.m. hosing down the entire house from all the eggs and the toilet paper. And I was like that's like that's so fucked up that's traumatic that is that is that's like a huge deal horrible like that's awful i think i'm so sorry i think i've blocked out a lot of those things i truly sometimes i'll flash back like some like for example i remember in ninth grade i just so happened to be in the one gym period um that none of my friends were in and gym is so hard
Starting point is 00:47:48 that's very hard when you're that age and you're gay like because your hormones are raging and you're around all the boys and you're in the locker room and like i remember just one time like all the guys in the locker room like changed one side of the locker room and then i was all the guys in the locker room changed one side of the locker room and then I was all the way on the other one. And it was because they wanted to be far away from me. I had a disease. And honestly, that is that is fucking
Starting point is 00:48:15 America. That is America. And it doesn't surprise me now with all this bullshit with what's going on in the country because we're all fucking racist and homophobic and like we're not, we're not, we're not. And you can say to your fucking nephew, I support you. But the thing is like, you don't understand. Like we've had it really hard and I'm not going to say we've had it harder than other people.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Um, but you know, there's, it's worth some consideration. I think the locker room thing is like society writ small. Yeah. Like when Mike Pence is a fan of conversion therapy, there's something wrong with that, and I think that everyone needs to really confront that right now. Sure, sure, sure. There's something really wrong with that,
Starting point is 00:48:57 what we're doing to people at that age when we send these messages. There's something really wrong. Something's not reaching, yeah. Something's not reaching. Girls, we've gotten deep into our pasts. We have not talked about the theme. So let me tell you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So we do have a loose theme for this episode. We'll talk about it for like 10 minutes. How long have we been doing this? 42. 42? Okay. So we have plenty of time, bitch. Okay, girl.
Starting point is 00:49:21 We have at least 30. This is a two-hour podcast. Let's make it two. For BSJ, yeah. Honestly, I'm having the time of my life. time okay girl we have at least a two hour podcast let's make it two for bsj yeah honestly i i'm having the time of my life well you know the longest we've done the longest we've done the longest episode we've done is josh sharp and aaron jackson oh and it was like 16 hours last but the whole time i felt good it was great i don't mean to put us into a rushed state i just yeah well you know what you really need to think about what you're doing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So look, the loose theme of this episode, Brandon. Yes. Is Oscars. The season begins. Oh my God. I'm very excited. This is it.
Starting point is 00:49:57 This is when it's, I had a conversation with Brandon Scott Jones recently where I found out that we were even more connected than I had thought. Girl, how I found out that he enjoys going on the Oscar prognostication websites. He likes to Oscar watch. I do. And I do it.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah, I do it all year. I'm talking about Nathaniel Rogers's website, the film experience. I'm talking awards daily. Oh my God. In contention chris tapley like i'm telling you i'm on these sites and i have been since i was young and what got you into it because i'll tell you what got minty and me into it i was i was a really big fan of lost okay and
Starting point is 00:50:37 i wanted to find out like how lost was going to do with the emmys and that's when i found out about the submission process and the tape system oh yeah and all that and I got really into the Emmys and I think I've been into the Oscars since I was like 7 years old with Titanic but like what got you into it like what made you interested in that aspect of it? Oh it's so interesting I don't know I remember like I remember
Starting point is 00:50:58 like being really into like I liked movies and I liked knowing what good movies were and so I think when I like realized what the Oscars were and like how much my parents liked them and I was like, Oh, what is this about? Uh,
Starting point is 00:51:12 they were just like, Oh, this is for like the best movies. I was like, Oh, well then I need to see all of these. You know what I'm saying? Like being like,
Starting point is 00:51:17 yeah, this is it. And so I was like, well, if the Oscars like them, it was how I like knew what good movies were. And so then it sort of was like a reverse process, I think like oh okay well now I'm gonna start seeing movies to see which one gets the Oscars or like start following them because I guess like my first like real year into
Starting point is 00:51:34 like being into the Oscars was uh quiz show so that that was like a movie quiz show for some reason just like i was into this is 94 93 93 94 after like okay so after forrest gump this is this is for so forrest gump wins 94 yeah um and then uh english patient then titanic and then we're getting into the sensibility area the sensibility is 96 okay yeah yeah because uh emma thompson won for adaptive screenplay yes i loved and i was very excited that year so i remember being like 1997 titanic is my definitive favorite oscars and it's my favorite one i had like i'd seen all five i had seen oh my god i, I had, I saw, um, I saw, um, like, uh, LA Confidential. I saw Good Will Hunting. I saw Full Monty.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I saw Titanic. And I saw, um, yeah, I know. As good as it gets. And you had an opinion on who should win. I did have an opinion. What was your opinion? My opinion was Good Will Hunting. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Because I, and I still love it. And my, a lot of my passwords to my computer. Oh my God. I can't say I like them apples yeah yeah yeah oh close it's very good but a lot of like I would say there's like four or five of them and they're all good will hunting themed uh-huh and so
Starting point is 00:52:55 that's all I'll give baby okay because I got some sensitive stuff in that email things about my future things about my past things about people I love and things about people i hate baby honestly keep it close to the vest please i can't can i tell you it's my email i gotta have it i'm getting a blackberry because i don't want anyone breaking in i mean no girl i was seven that year and i think i only saw titanic and my parents like allowed me to see titanic but
Starting point is 00:53:22 close my eyes during the boob scene of course. Yeah god yes. And I was like yes Titanic all the way but like looking back like god damn is that like a shitty movie. It's like yes in terms like okay when was the last time you watched it? Recently. Yeah it is like a like. It's an avatar. It's an
Starting point is 00:53:39 avatar. It's an avatar. Yeah I like but here's the thing I'm in the theater watching. My family saw Titanic in the theaters. How many times? Seven times. Wow. Oh my God. A three hour and 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:51 So many hours committed. 21 hours. I know. It is an insane amount. But I left and I started going to other movies. Yes. And I went to, that's how I saw Gable Hunting. And that's how I saw.
Starting point is 00:53:59 LA Confidential. How the fuck did you get into LA Confidential? I saw. I just like walked. Because you'd buy the ticket with my family to go see that. Back then theaters were different. Did Basinger deserve an Oscar for that? Back then theaters were different.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I was around. I can say this. No, no, I know. But I, then I also saw, um,
Starting point is 00:54:16 Boogie Nights. Oh my God. You saw Boogie Nights as like a young, oh wow. Boogie Nights might be the best movie out of all those. Oh my God. Boogie Nights is outrageous. Was Boogie Nights? The first hour of Boogie all those. Oh, my God. Boogie Nights is outrageous. Was Boogie Nights an hour of Boogie Nights?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yeah, it was. It was the same year. Burt Reynolds. Oh, for Burt Reynolds. And then also screenplay. Yeah. And then also. Julianne Moore.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Julianne Moore. Julianne Moore was so good in that. She was so good as Amber Waves. Oh, my God. That movie is awesome. And I remember Heather Graham won breakout star at the MTV Movie Awards for playing a real girl. Yeah, she did.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And Philip Seymour Hoffman won a razzle i don't know no he was fucking amazing in that stupid stupid oh my god stupid and then just him like clutching that clipboard with his 10 in his mouth so good it's such a good movie that's evocative that movie is really fucking it is very very good i remember the next year i think that or maybe not the next year maybe two years later. Yes. Was when Shakespeare in Love won. Was that 98 or 99? Because American Beauty was one of those years.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Shakespeare in Love won in 98. American Beauty won in 99. And then 99 was American Beauty. Then 2000 was. Gladiator. Gladiator. Then 2001. Beautiful Minds.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Okay, then 2002. No, Chicago was 2003. Chicago was 2003. 2002. And then 2003 was oh my god Million Dollar Baby no
Starting point is 00:55:27 no 2004 no Million Dollar Baby was 2007 what oh you're right you're right
Starting point is 00:55:33 you're right no I think I'm right 2004 was hold on I think it was Million Dollar Baby I think I'm about to blow you guys away
Starting point is 00:55:41 2003 no it's not 2003 Million Dollar Baby because guys 2003 was the year of Cold Mountain 2003 yes but Cold Mountain didn't win Best Picture Baby, because guys... 2003 was the year of Cold Mountain. 2003, yes. But Cold Mountain
Starting point is 00:55:46 didn't win Best Picture. No, Cold Mountain... I know it was the year of Cold Mountain, though. Because Renee Zellweger won. Lord of the Rings, Return of the King. Yes, bitch.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yes, honey. Yes. Yes, bitch. Yes. Yes. 2004 was Million Dollar Baby, I'm willing to bet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Yes, it might have been. 2007... Wait, I'm getting two of them confused. Hold on. Because 2007 was the year of Dreamgirls which means that something else won. No.
Starting point is 00:56:09 So I won an Oscar contest on AwardsDaily.com Oh wow. Congratulations. You can look up the interview on AwardsDaily.com She interviewed me. Oh my god. Just by email. I don't want to go crazy. Literally my interview on this website is i
Starting point is 00:56:26 reread it maybe two years ago and i like shivered and i was like i'm gonna bury this no i also find myself as embarrassed as i am beau embarrassed they am matt i bring this up as like my greatest accomplishment absolutely you should all right i'm about to read off off whether or not we're right or not. Hold on. This is thick. The Departed. The Departed was one of them, yes. Ready?
Starting point is 00:56:54 97 was Titanic. 98, Shakespeare in Love. 99, American Beauty. 2000, Gladiator. We were right. 2001, A Beautiful Mind. 2002, Chicago, yes. 2003, Lord of the Rings, Return of the King. 2004, Gladiator. We were right. 2001, A Beautiful Mind. 2002, Chicago. Yes. 2003, Lord of the Rings, Return of the King. 2004, Million Dollar
Starting point is 00:57:10 Baby. Alright, there you go. 2005, the biggest tragedy of all time. Oh, Crash. Crash. Oh, God. Stupid fucking horrible ass movie. Racist movie. Terrible. Not about race. Racist. Terrible, terrible. 2006? The Departed 2006 The Departed
Starting point is 00:57:25 The Departed 2007 The year I won No country for old men No country for old men Oh right Okay so here's what won it for me By the way that year
Starting point is 00:57:32 Okay I can tell you really quickly It was a spoiler It was I picked Tilda Swinton I picked Tilda and Marianne Cotillard Yes
Starting point is 00:57:39 Good Oh wow I double dutched I remember seeing Michael Clayton And it was the first time I ever became aware of Tilda Swinton
Starting point is 00:57:47 and I'm like she was incredible she was so good that movie is awesome the scene at the end when he walks away from her and in the background
Starting point is 00:57:54 she just collapses to the floor oh my god that was so good and also the whole scene where in the beginning where she's ironing oh yeah
Starting point is 00:58:00 and she's in the bathroom and she's like sweating too she was amazing in that she's so good she's an Oscar winner she really really really really good 2007 no country for 2008 slumdog millionaire 2009 is oh god jesus i'm already forgetting uh the hurt locker hurt locker beat avatar famous 2010 king speech which i fucking hate i can't that again tragedy social network yes social network is so good can we listen these are the movies that weren't up King's Speech. Which I fucking hate. I can't. Bad movie. Again, tragedy that it beats Social Network. Yes. Social Network is so good.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Can we listen? These are the movies that were up against King's Speech. It was The King's Speech, 127 Hours, Black Swan, The Fighter, Inception, The Kids Are Alright, Social Network, Toy Story 3, True Grit, and Winter's Bone. And I'm going to go ahead and say that every single movie I just listed is better than King's Speech. Absolutely. I was, I, you know, I love Colin Firth.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Me too. And you know, I think he gives a great performance. He's nothing. That, what? He's nothing. Come on, Matt. Matt. He's not hot.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Let's start. I don't think you're honey right now. I don't think so, honey, right now. I don't think so, honey, right now. Right now, right now, right now. Emergency. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 00:59:03 There's nothing. That is insane. You are losing your fucking mind. Do you want to come for I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. That is nothing. That is insane. You are losing your fucking mind. Do you want to come for me later? Come for me later. I will. You don't mean this. You're saying this to hurt people.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You're saying this to be provocative. You're a Milo Yiannopoulos. Sensationalist Milo Yiannopoulos. You better call me Milo. Lucian Piani. Lucian Piani. I'm here. Lucian Piani, bitch.
Starting point is 00:59:20 2011. 2011. Oh, artist. I know this. The artist. I saw that movie with Nicole Conlon 2012 2012 was
Starting point is 00:59:28 fucking stupid ass Argo no I like Argo don't it's racist it is racist but my god
Starting point is 00:59:35 I don't know what I feel like you know what should have won that year either Zero Dark Thirty or Zero Dark was great Zero Dark was okay honestly
Starting point is 00:59:41 ZD3 week year week year Argo Amor Beast of the southern wild jango unchained no thanks that was a bad year lame is no life of pie no no no no lincoln no thanks silverlany's playbook i liked i i i was fine with it and i remember thinking to myself you know what i wish this was the standard for romantic comedy. Sure. It was a good romantic comedy.
Starting point is 01:00:06 The first time I saw it, I was like, what was that bullshit? And the second time I saw it, I was crying. Oh, interesting. What made you want to see it again? Yeah. I wanted to give it another chance because everyone was so emphatic about it. And I was like, maybe I wasn't in a good mood. Maybe it was something I missed.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And I watched it again, and it really affected me, actually. Wow. I loved Silver Linings Playbook. I tried it. And actually, it makes me give David O. Russell the benefit of the doubt now. Ooh. But I really don't like it. You finally heart Huckabee.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I actually hate that movie. I love the fighter. And he was the worst in that movie to the actors. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. That was, I feel like, birth of like a viral video. Totally. Celebrity voyeur.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I mean, like it really shook me. I was shook, honey. Then next year was 2013, 12 Years a Slave. 12 Years a Slave, 2014. Great movie. Loved it. Couldn't get enough of it. 2014.
Starting point is 01:00:59 No, it is a great movie. No, I don't want you to think that I'm mad, but I just like. Thinking about it, it's like a popcorn flick. Yeah, exactly. There's some movies that are just like great they're fantastic there's so much to sit through in like a way that i'm like oh my god it is a very clear my god i didn't mean to i didn't know but i just say no you did though and that's okay and i don't think i will never forget it 2014 was birdman oh i loved it i liked birdman okay i loved it. I liked Birdman. Okay. I loved it, Beau. 2015 was Spotlight. Spotlight. Spotlight I loved.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I loved it, too. And my parents liked it, too. I wanted Mad Max. Oh, that's a great movie. Sure. Beau and I went, and let me tell you, like I said before, I'm scared of a movie like that. And Max, you... And I... We were fucking so high. We were stoned. But Matt, you didn't know what to expect. I didn't know. And literally,
Starting point is 01:01:44 I got my life at that movie. I was screaming, laughing, crying, yearning, learning, and gasping. Learning, yearning, and gasping. Girl, we saw this at the Times Square AMC, bitch. No, bitch. We saw it in Brooklyn, bitch. You couldn't even get your life. No, we didn't, bitch. What? We saw it in Times Square AMC. I promise you.'t even get your life. No, we didn't, bitch.
Starting point is 01:02:07 We saw it in Times Square AMC, I promise you. I could swear. You can't even get your life right now. Fine. All I know is Charlize gave me everything, and Charlize is my favorite actress. Also, give me some more wine. Guys, as we've been doing this, we've been drinking more and more wine. So, listen, this is what I want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:02:24 What have the awards prognostical sites? So can I tell you what they're saying which literally blows my mind is they're saying this year
Starting point is 01:02:33 Birth of a Nation Emma Stone is definitely going to win an Oscar. Oh my God. For a musical called La La Land La La Land.
Starting point is 01:02:42 With Ryan Gosling. Yes, yes, yes. I feel like that movie is they said undisputable that's undisputable now who said that fucking
Starting point is 01:02:49 Sasha did she she was like it would be very difficult or is it like this is what people are saying well because this is this is the bullshit around the Oscars
Starting point is 01:02:56 in terms of best actress and this is statistics and this is just white rug and red wine by the way this goes to show you what we're dealing with here in terms of Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:03:05 The mean age of a Best Actress Oscar winner is 29. That means that usually... Girls, you only have a couple years left. You're talking to us? Yeah. If we're going to win Best Actress, we better get to work.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Honey, I've got a half decade. I think she's just a little bit younger than 29, so she'd be a little bit young for it but no she's all right she's like 20 yeah she's young do you remember her on the partridge family reality yes i do oh my god you do you don't remember yes i do a lot the first time i saw her was fucking zombie land and i was like who's this that was you didn't see her in super bad oh in super bad too yes i remember seeing her in super bad being honestly, she's a thing. I was like, she's, yeah. I remember being like,
Starting point is 01:03:46 there's something about her. Yes. I love Emma Stone. I just, I have a hard time swallowing like Academy Award winner Emma Stone. I just have a hard time with that. She's good.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I just saw a trailer for that film the other day and I was like, I couldn't. It looks pretty. It does look very pretty but it also looks like a Best Picture nominee that I loathe.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Oh, sure. Called Moulin Rouge. Don't do it. No, don't you dare. There you go. Don't you dare. Matt, come at me. Why would you do this?
Starting point is 01:04:17 How could you fucking do this? What about Moulin Rouge is bad to you? Everything. It's his best movie. It's whose best movie? Bob Norman's best movie. It's called Romeo and Juliet because it was written by to you. Everything. It's his best movie. It's whose best movie? Bob Norman's best movie. It's called Romeo and Juliet
Starting point is 01:04:27 because it was written by a master. You better. You see what I'm saying? You better get out. No, I'm not. I will get out. I will walk out
Starting point is 01:04:33 of this podcast right now. No, don't leave. I will walk out of this podcast right now. It's so nice having Brandon Scott Jones. Oh my God. Thank you so much
Starting point is 01:04:39 for having me. No, there's, I don't get it. Nicole Kidman deserved to win. She was so good. Are you, what, what are we, where are good. What are we dealing with here? Talent?
Starting point is 01:04:50 Excuse me? I'm not talking about the fact that Nicole Kidman is not talented. I think Nicole Kidman is very talented, and you can watch Rabbit Hole. You can watch To Die For. Rabbit Hole starring Sandra Oh. Yes, I love Sandra Oh. I think she's great.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Rabbit Hole starring Sandra Oh. I wouldn't say starring, but she's's great. I wouldn't say starring, but she's in it. I wouldn't say starring really at all. She's starring in that movie as much as she's starring in Princess Diaries.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I interrupted you. No, but I'm just saying Nicole Kidman has a lot of talent and if you feel like it was mostly on display during Moulin Rouge, then I feel like you
Starting point is 01:05:22 have questionable judgment there. All I have to say is this. I'm moving away. Away from you. Away from here. Away from the Moulin Rouge. She did not deserve the Oscar
Starting point is 01:05:33 for fucking The Hours. She was so bad in that movie. Let me tell you something. The reason she won an Oscar for The Hours is because they felt bad they didn't give it to her for Moulin Rouge
Starting point is 01:05:41 because they gave it to Halle Berry for taking a top off. Okay. Halle Berry did not deserve the Academy Award for that monster's ball. Brandon just took off his glasses. Take your glasses off. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Brandon took off his glasses. Here we go. I don't care. No, I feel like you do care and that the only reason you're screaming I don't care is because you knew. How wonderful life is.
Starting point is 01:06:02 No, let it be. That's a good point. Now you're in the world good point no it's that now you're in the world oh my god we all chose three different wrong oh my god we did we all you're in the world yeah his i did this joel kim booster if you were listening you host a show called i hate fuck that movie yeah fuck that movie I hate that shit I hate that shit fuck that movie new title I hate that shit
Starting point is 01:06:29 joke and booster if you were listening so you know my feelings about Moulin Rouge because I did my little performance about that okay okay
Starting point is 01:06:35 and let me tell you something I would have brought a tomato to that show and thrown it right in your fucking forehead oh my god well guess what
Starting point is 01:06:40 I love Greek salad bitch I need to hear you I need to hear you. I need to hear you talk about this. This is crazy to me. No, it is so bad. There's literally, when was the last time you saw it? How old were you?
Starting point is 01:06:52 Probably yesterday. No, bullshit. I watch it every day. No, I'll tell you when I last saw it. And I can appreciate it even more as I get older because you know what? It's fun. No, it's not fun. I probably saw it last year.
Starting point is 01:07:03 What? I haven't seen it since I was like 13. Why don't you like it? I will tell you. i probably saw it last year what i haven't i haven't seen it why don't you like it i will tell you do you find it incoherent i find it incoherent i find it disturbing to look at i find it very very i thought like the there's not the musicality of it if you're going to take these songs and you're going to mash them up like that that they sound like they literally sound like garbage together i do not need it smells like teen spirit or uh and i do not need whatever whatever it's fucking mashed up with uh to be like to get and it's just awful and then also jim broadbent like his like stupid big scary face just coming up into the screen screaming I can't. And like, I can't go to the con girl.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Yeah, that's exactly, con girl. And then it's just like, he was committing. He was so good. No, if you want to see commitment,
Starting point is 01:07:53 fucking watch, oh, I don't know, Capote. I feel like that. Capote. Yes. Oh,
Starting point is 01:07:59 what are you going to say? He won the Oscar for Capote. He did win the Oscar for Capote and he deserved it. This is to say that the Oscars always get it right. They gave Jennifer Hudson an acting award. You! She deserved it. You do not dispute Jennifer Hudson's Oscar. What? Is that what I
Starting point is 01:08:12 mean? They say, oh my god, she's, of that movie, is problematic but her voice is transcendent. She's very good. Yeah, she's a great voice. She should win many Grammys. Yes, she should. Okay. Not the Academy Award. I'm glad it kept her career going also i think even though he's playing lumiere and you know i love you and mcgregor i don't think that
Starting point is 01:08:32 was the best display of his voice he sounded like a french police siren like he literally yes it's just like everything it's like if you break it down and you watch it, it's like the unwatchable Matt. Okay, I have a question then. And I think this is worth asking. So Ewan McGregor, he's an actor who sings. Nicole Kidman, an actress who sings. Wouldn't we rather have that than a singer who can barely act in a musical? Okay, so then... And i agree that you can find
Starting point is 01:09:07 both yeah but they have been interested in doing that so what's the better thing well okay i don't know it's it you're basically saying they haven't been interested in doing both so like i have to now pick between one or the other you're absolutely right would i take a say an actor who can sing yes i probably would in terms of a film and probably in terms of a play. There's nothing worse than a musical because it's all of it combined together. But if you look back and you think about, I think about Shirley MacLaine, right? Shirley MacLaine is a legit triple threat. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:40 They don't make him like her anymore. They don't. And she's doing her thing in Sweet Charity. And all of the people, like Rita Moreno. Rita! You know who was the closest thing to that in recent years? It was probably Catherine Zeta. Catherine Zeta is really...
Starting point is 01:09:56 She's like full on great in Chicago. She kills it. She's really, really, really, really good. And Renee's good in that movie, too. Renee is good in that movie. And John C. Reilly's good in that movie. And Richard Gere is good in that movie. He's got a great voice.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I think the thing that... Give them the old razzle dazzle. Wait, let Brandon finish his point. Dazzle dazzle. Yeah, no. My point is that I feel like it depends because it's studio recordings, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 So you can do whatever you want to them and i'm not sitting here saying that ewan mcgregor and nicole kimmon are bad and i'm not saying that they're like i'm just saying that that for me the entire composition of that film is underwhelming and i also think that part of it was my best friends in high school saying to me you've got to see this you're not going to believe it you're going to love it you're going to love it you're going to love it and i walk into the movie've got to see this. You're not going to believe it. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. And I walk into the movie theater and I see this and I'm like, is this what you think I am?
Starting point is 01:10:49 Sure. You think this is me? You think this is what I like? Is this what you think I like? I like substance. I cried so much. When? When she's coughing up blood.
Starting point is 01:10:59 One of my least favorite movie tropes. Oh, sure. That is, that's kind of tired. We have to. TB, that movie
Starting point is 01:11:05 trope it's not tb it's the it's coughing up blood it's like a moment of it it happens romanticized for a reason that's the point of the movie okay i missed the point of the movie i am i then i you know what don't apologize no i'm going to no no i want everyone to listen to this right now matt rogers bullied me into apologizing no no well let's let's flip the tables then i mean what's him i we can probably find a movie that i fucking hate that you like um okay let me see um one of these oscar movies fucking good taste one of these oscar movies um i really loved um did you guys see? This is very hard. Chocolat?
Starting point is 01:11:50 Chocolat. You know I love Chocolat. I would say, you know, I liked all of the 97s. I mean, what do you want me to say? I like Slumdog Millionaire. I like Slumdog. Yeah, I know. It was the first time I ever smoked weed was Slumdog Millionaire.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Really? I was 17 years old, first time I ever smoked weed with Slumdog Millionaire. Really? Way to respect. I was 17 years old, smoked a little bit of weed, went to go see Slumdog Millionaire, was in the movie theater. The scene where they hit the mom with the stick,
Starting point is 01:12:14 I had to go in the bathroom. I had a panic attack. Oh my God. You know, I quit smoking weed like eight months ago and then I had two pot cookies. I was in Seattle recently and I had two pot cookies. Lost my mind. Pretended was joan baez for an hour and a half and then had such a full
Starting point is 01:12:30 blown panic attack that around like 1 a.m west coast time called my best friend here in new york which is 4 a.m and had her talk me down off a fucking ledge i had lost my mind and that's how out of practice i am on getting high babies no i mean once i mean for me it's just like every god i know and sometimes now i'm starting to wonder is it affecting my memory is oh sure do you feel creative on it though hmm can i tell you something i've been confronting over the past month but i don't feel as creative as i used to. I think I'm having an off time right now. Does it have to do with weed or no? I don't think it does. I think it, well.
Starting point is 01:13:09 For everyone listening, I mean, Bowen and I aren't going to LA anymore. That fell through. Oh, yeah. So like. Thanks for answering my text about that, by the way. I appreciate it. We did answer that.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I know, I'm saying thank you because I was very concerned. I thought you were throwing shit at us. Oh my God, no. I was like, Bowen's name is on that text. This is, I'm going to go home and have a panic attack about like, I hope everyone knows I was like very concerned I thought you were throwing shit at us I was like oh my god no this is I'm going to go home and have a panic attack
Starting point is 01:13:26 about like I hope everyone knows I was joking no yeah yeah because I do respect your taste in movies I love you very much I love you so much
Starting point is 01:13:33 don't oh my god no this is great this is a historic moment in Las Culturistas this is one of the highlights of me apologizing our fiery Oscar
Starting point is 01:13:40 our Moulin Rouge argument oh definitely okay but anyway yeah Bowen and I are not going to LA anymore, et cetera, et cetera, for a bunch of reasons. It's good. But I feel a malaise. But yeah, because of that, I feel like something...
Starting point is 01:13:56 I gave a lot to wanting that to happen. Not even wanting it to happen. I gave a lot to it happening emotionally, and now that it's not happening, it just feels like whoosh. You know what I mean? Yeah. It it's like we need to take a second and i personally feel like i'm not creating a lot right now but i do think i'm doing a lot right now we planned our lives around five months of our of our lives around it which it sucks i mean it's for the best this is i've been telling people it's for the best but we sort of have to shift uh minds a little bit. It's all good.
Starting point is 01:14:25 And I also, to be honest with you, I didn't even really want to go. Girl, there you go. I love New York. There you go. Okay, Amadeus. Did you hate that? I've never seen Amadeus. That was the year I was born.
Starting point is 01:14:36 That movie won the Oscar. 84. Yeah. Oh, actually, can we cut that out? No. I'm 23. I was 1990 and the movie was Driving Miss Daisy. No, it was Dances with Wolves, bitch.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Dances with Wolves. Oh, Driving Miss Daisy is 89. Okay. 91 is? Oh. Is it Unforgiven? Is it Unforgiven? I think that's 92.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Maybe 92 is Unforgiven. And then 91 is? One of them is Philadelphia. No. No. No? Tom Hanks won 93 and 94 for Philadelphia. Okay, there you Hanks won 93 and 94 I'm doing all this from memory guys No honestly it's crazy
Starting point is 01:15:11 And I feel the same way And also I could do this with the Emmys Should we talk about more movies That are coming out this year Oh god I gotta follow off track No you didn't at all I'm really excited to see other people I mean i hope that molly shannon gets nominated for best supporting actress which is where they're pushing her i think i think that would be wonderful i i i i
Starting point is 01:15:34 i don't know anything about that but but i do know that i've seen the movie a few times and each time she gets me she has an effect on my God. I just even thinking about the movie, I'm like so wildly like, just like in love with her performance and Jesse Plemons, his performance. It's so, so good. I just highly,
Starting point is 01:15:54 I, I, I cannot wait. I can't wait to see it. It's such a wonderful, Oh God. Do you want to talk about how, how it was to,
Starting point is 01:16:01 to, to make it or yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, I was, I, um, you know, it's very exciting. I don't know. I think it was Oh, yeah. It's very exciting.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I don't know. I kind of feel weird talking about it because I was only on set for one day. But it was written by Chris Kelly and directed by Chris Kelly. And so it was super amazing to watch. That happened to that person. That happened to that person.
Starting point is 01:16:24 He's a friend of mine. And, uh, and, uh, I was just so grateful that he offered me a chance to like be a little part of it. And I would have to say that,
Starting point is 01:16:33 like, that he nailed it. I mean, like he, he just, he just nailed it. And, and I think I,
Starting point is 01:16:41 I did, I emailed this to, I think maybe Darcy or Carden and, or whatever, but like Darcy, uh, Carden is also, she's moving.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I get to do a scene with her and I, I will say in the most like, Oh my God, this is so sentimental. And so no, but I will say that I was at one of the most, one of the most exciting and proud moments or not. I don't want to say proud,
Starting point is 01:17:02 but like just lovely moments of my life is that if you would have asked me like when I started doing that stuff, what my dream would be, would be to be in a movie with a friend of mine. Yeah. The fact that the, a friend of mine directed this incredible movie, like amazing thing.
Starting point is 01:17:18 And then I got to be on screen with one of my best friends as well. Like just for even like two seconds is I, I, I could, you i could you could you could say goodbye right now and i'd be like all right i got it you know what i'm saying and that is a really nice yeah yes and i think that i don't you know i don't even know chris but i do feel like proud of him you know like i i feel like you know this is somebody who's like oh this is crazy i watched his like it gets better yes and like it helped me well i
Starting point is 01:17:46 remember you know what i mean i remember the days where he was at the onion and our friend david was working with him and it's like he's come he's come all this way it's it's just so exciting and then to see everyone up there and then in this movie and also the movie just be about something real and it not just be you know it's not just any other comedy you know what i mean like it's not it's it's a really real movie and there's a lot of truth to it yeah yeah um it's it's like yeah like the scenes in the film are like he he's i don't know how he did it but um obviously he's very talented so that's how but like i don't like technically i don't know how he did it but he got he got this perfect balance between something very genuine and something very raw and very difficult to look at, to watch,
Starting point is 01:18:27 to intake, and then just blended it with like, just like rhythmically, perfectly the comedy and the way in the, in certain moments. And that he chose to use comedians to, to, to be like Molly Shannon as like this main character.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And she is out of this world. We need to see more of that. I. We need to see more of that. I think we need to see more of people taking risks with casting, because how cool is it to see Molly Shannon turn out a great dramatic performance? And you know, there's so many people like that that are capable of that.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Remember Maya Rudolph in Away We Go? Oh, she's great. Oh yeah, she's great. So good in it. She's great. She's got that monologue at the end. Yeah. Oh man. I like that movie i like that
Starting point is 01:19:06 movie so good awesome john christensen and you know even like amy puller and tina fey in their work they have these kind of moments of like pathos where you're like yeah there might be something else there yeah there always is um and you know jim carrey's dramatic work and eternal sunshine robin williams is dramatic work and whoopie Goldberg's dramatic work. Like, it's just like, there's something about comedians and yeah, there's something about comedians.
Starting point is 01:19:32 There's something about comedians. No, but it's very true that like, it is fun to watch. I think, um, people, I think,
Starting point is 01:19:40 I don't know if it's a predisposition from watch. Is that the right word? Like when you're watching them and you have a predisposition about them, where you're like, oh, they're going to make me laugh. They're going to make me laugh. Or a preconceived notion. Preconceived notion. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Excuse me. Whatever. No. And you're like, I don't know if they're going to make me laugh. They're going to make me laugh. I'm waiting for it. I'm waiting for it. And it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Or something slightly off happens. Have you ever seen, God, he made like made a year of the dog and he made. I know who you're talking about. Mike, Mike. God, he co-created. Oh, my God. I'm blinking on all of his stuff now. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:20:18 What? What? No, not. No, Mike Lee is great. I do like Mike Lee movies. You ever seen Happy Go Lucky? That's a great one. What's his, he, it's that,
Starting point is 01:20:28 it was the TV show with Laura Dern. Enlightened. Oh, Mike White. Mike White. God damn it. Mike White. I was like, I couldn't remember. Mike White also did School of Rock.
Starting point is 01:20:35 And like, yes. School of Rock. And The Good Girl. Like, he has got like really like, his films are, have like that sort of like, like nice balance. But then I think he does a good job of like casting like comedians like Jack Black in like School of Rock.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Oh, so good. Great performance. Great. Also, Sarah's other performance in School of Rock is Michael Hartney. When I saw him, Michael Hartney on Broadway.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Yeah, we should, you should all go see School of Rock. Yeah. Um, so if I had to say something I'm looking forward to for the Oscar season this year, I guess, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:04 I, I, Jackie, the trailer came out forward to for the Oscar season this year. I guess, you know, I, Jackie, the trailer came out today with Natalie Portman as Jackie Kennedy. I think that's going to be exciting. It's like such a trophy grab. I'm going to go. It's baiting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Oh, I will. Let's all go right now. Let's go now. And also we got a couple big sci-fi movies out this year. And the one I'm really excited about is Arrival. Yes. With Amy Adams, who i live for
Starting point is 01:21:26 i live for drop dead gorgeous yeah come on drop dead gorgeous that was her first movie i know and she crushed it crushed it and that was her first movie and then she didn't work for like several years and i remember seeing her again and like junebug and all these things and i'm like she's so good and i was like oh yeah amy adams and they were like what do you mean oh yeah amy adams i'm like what she hasn't been a thing? And then I realized, no, she hadn't worked in years. Oh my God, that's crazy. But then Junebug and Enchanted and ever since then, it's been huge.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And I just think she's one of the best. She's a real bee's knees for me. I love her very much. I think she's, I love, I really, you know who else I love? I love Emily Blunt. I love Emily Blunt. I love her. I think Emily Blunt is amazing. Yes, I think, I like, you know who else I love? I love Emily Blunt. I love Emily Blunt. I love her. I think Emily Blunt is amazing.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Yes. I think she's so good. She's the best part of Into the Woods. I would say. Sure. I agree. A hundred percent. And I'm,
Starting point is 01:22:13 you know, did you read the book, The Girl on the Train? No, but I hear it's great. I want to read it because we both, because you and I both like Gone Girl.
Starting point is 01:22:20 No, Gone Girl's not too scary for you? Yeah, Gone Girl's. I read the book before I watched the movie and I skipped the scene where Neil Patrick Harris gets harris gets killed oh that's a great moment spoiler alert terrible i'm no i'm afraid of i hear you're on the train is great the book is yeah the book like read the book i mean i it was it's like you kind of i like devoured it it was just like
Starting point is 01:22:39 like nice and easy ready to go there's no wine. Oh, my God. It was... Oh, okay. I know. A little sprinkle of wine. A sprinkle. And then also, I'm excited about, I guess, we'll see, Passengers with Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt. Oh, sure. That's a... I love the premise of that movie. Our producer, Joe, is shaking his goddamn head.
Starting point is 01:22:58 You want to get involved? I'm always involved. Okay. He's always involved. No, you're... He's always involved. You're never involved enough. One day, we'll interview Joe yeah
Starting point is 01:23:06 we'll find out all the tea I think that would be that would be a good that's a nice good fan episode fan episode I have such I'm such a sucker for like that sci-fi big movie
Starting point is 01:23:15 me too like I loved Inception Inception which oh yes Inception I liked it yeah I get that
Starting point is 01:23:22 did you like what the other one was the Interstellar I really was? The Interstellar? I really didn't like Interstellar. And I just thought it was just too much. I didn't really get what it was going for. It was stressful.
Starting point is 01:23:36 It was stressful. Also, the sound mixing was really bad. I couldn't hear anything. I think that's intentional. Could have been the theater I was at. Also could have been intentional. But the whole last monologue that Ellen Burstyn gives, I couldn't hear a word of it.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And I was like, maybe it was poignant, but I'll never know. And I really enjoy Christopher Nolan. I love The Dark Knight. Yeah. It's a good movie. And I love The Dark Knight Rises. Sure. Oh, Anne Hathaway.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I thought she was amazing. That's part of the movie. Thoughts on Anne Hathaway. Before we end this conversation, thoughts on Anne Hathaway. I thought she was amazing. That's part of the movie. Thoughts on Anne Hathaway. Before we end this conversation, thoughts on Anne Hathaway. Okay. Rather than talk about it, I'm going to make a noise. Okay? Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Uh-huh. Ah! What's your noise for Anne Hathaway, Bowen? Hey. Which is like, hey, don't knock Anne Hathaway. I'm not knocking Anne Hathaway with the uh-huh. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Here's my noise for Anne Hathaway. I'm not knocking Anne Hathaway with the uh-huh. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Here's my noise for Anne Hathaway.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Mm. Oh, my God. That is an intense noise for Anne Hathaway. Mm. She just is like comfort food to me. She is. I mean, listen. She always gives you.
Starting point is 01:24:38 She brings it to every ball. And you know what? Haters can hate. She's consistent. No, I agree. I think haters can hate. But at the same time like she is consistent yeah
Starting point is 01:24:46 and she's talented she can sing she can she could be I think she's a technical triple threat Brandon here's what you need to do
Starting point is 01:24:52 okay yes sir you need to listen to the Barbra Streisand new album on the movies and listen to At the Ballet oh yeah
Starting point is 01:24:59 I've listened to it Anne Hathaway Daisy Ridley and Barbra Streisand and Anne Hathaway then Maggie do you wanna dance and I said daddy
Starting point is 01:25:09 I'd love to giving you musical theater yes oh please also do you like the little lyric changes that Barbra makes no anything you can do I can do better
Starting point is 01:25:23 I really need this job. Like, come on, girls. Oh, come on. I do live for that shit, though. Sure. But, like, it is, like... Suti and I saw her in concert. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:25:36 She served her life. At Barclays? Yes. Oh, okay. God, she's... I love Barclays. It's the thing is that, like, it's just... It's the best culture.
Starting point is 01:25:45 You know who's severely underrated now? Who? Who? Oh, yeah. She's coming back, baby. Beth fucking Mandler. I went back and listened to her old stuff when she sang, like, really, like, ballroom-y, jazzy stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Amazing singer. In the 80s. Such a good singer. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love Beth. Like, you're talking, like, 70s, 80s Beth? Like, do you want to dance? Yeah. Like, such good music. I love her.'re talking like 70s 80s like do you want to dance
Starting point is 01:26:05 yeah like such good music I love her she was like a huge I mean like she was like like I don't even know what she how to describe her
Starting point is 01:26:13 because she wasn't an actress she wasn't exclusively a singer you know what I'm saying I mean she was all these things right right right but like I think
Starting point is 01:26:18 she's a performer she was just like a performer and her breakout movie was The Rose where she played a rock star who ended up like with a drug problem. And it was kind of very reminiscent of Janis Joplin's life story,
Starting point is 01:26:31 because it was very reminiscent of that. And she was nominated for an Oscar, and that started her career. But that's very much why everyone was paying attention to her. And then she kind of became the Bette Midler, kind of vaudevillian movie star. I love it though love it annual halloween party oh so huge i mean hocus pocus changed my life oh yeah just seeing her i was like who is that movie is i think hocus pocus um might have been actually i would have
Starting point is 01:26:57 wagered to guess that hocus pocus is very formative in one lady gaga's life oh sure that'd be interesting yeah yeah i mean if she's like how old is she how old is like Lady Gaga's life. Oh, sure. That'd be interesting. Yeah. I mean, she's like, how old is she? How old is she? Like 20? She's 30. Oh, she's 30. Yeah. 30.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Okay. Okay. Yeah. I would say that that's like, that movie came out in, remember, I'm going to do it, 1993. Good. Yeah. There you go. Michelle Trachtenberg.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Trachtenberg. Trachtenberg was in Hocus Pocus? Yes. And what's her face she was there was that other actress oh Matt don't even go ahead
Starting point is 01:27:30 no there was that other actress what's her name Glibba Sunda not shut up um I like to make up Farrah
Starting point is 01:27:38 no no she was also in I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about Michelle Trachtenberg it's Michelle Trachtenberg no it's not it's what's her name it's from uh no it's not michelle
Starting point is 01:27:48 tractenberg oh my god it's not you're absolutely right oh my god i'm getting the names mixed up it's the one it's the lovely lady from uh american beauty when she's thora birch oh my god oh my god i can't believe i was so fucking indignant can you please edit that one they're easily confused all right right, guys. We've had this discussion for a long time. It's time to move into the centerpiece of our show. It's time for I Don't Think So, Honey. Now, as we know, I Don't Think So, Honey is the moment of everyone's week.
Starting point is 01:28:18 When they tune in, they all wait for I Don't Think So, Honey. And here it is. We have 60 seconds to rail against anything in culture that's making you mad. And you know what? Maybe it gets real. Maybe it gets silly. Maybe it's prepared. Maybe it's not.
Starting point is 01:28:29 But you know what? Here it comes. And Bowen, I think, is going to be first. I always go first. You go first this time. I don't know if you want to hear what I have to say. All right, fine. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:28:39 I'll go first. Oh, my God. I'm really nervous about it. Don't be nervous. I'm going to be listening to yours and then not thinking about mine. This is going to cause some waves. Here's the thing. I have nothing prepared for this.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Okay. Ready? Okay. I don't think so, honey. Matt Rogers, time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Split-sider. You guys came from my friends Rachel Winnitsky and Ned Risely today, and they released an
Starting point is 01:28:59 amazing video, and you released a fucking bullshit article about it, and you should retract it. It should be should retract it it should be edited or it or it should be apologized for and i'm serious because what you did is you posted a video and what you should have done is you should have drawn attention to a great piece of musical comedy everyone should look up friends who folk and enjoy it but what you did was you were like oh the harmonies in this are bullshit and grating. Think about what the word grating means when you put up something that's sung by a woman and a gay man. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Splitsider, I'm not happy about this. I don't think so, honey. I think that you tried to be funny when it's your job to comment on the funny. Okay? So I think that Splitsider should retract this article by Luke Kelly Klein and I think that you need to
Starting point is 01:29:49 let it go. I don't think so. That's one minute. Oh my God. The most fearless. The most incendiary. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I know. My God. I feel and he's posing. He's posing. Look at him. I'm going to take a picture of this. Don't come for my friends. Don't come for your friends. I going to take a picture of this. Don't come for my friends.
Starting point is 01:30:05 No. Don't come for your friends. I need to take a picture of Matt's pose right now. That is insane. And I'm going to. For the fans, please post. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Okay. Oh my God. Wow. I'm going to post this later. This is huge. And I know the writer out of that article and I expect better. Oh. So I don't know why you're bitter.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Oh my God. Yeah. I didn't read this. I did not read this. I think it's just really easy to come for people that actually create stuff. Look. Okay. I did not read. Oh my God. I sent this. I'm upset. I'm pissed. No. I think it's just really easy to come for people that actually create stuff. Look, okay. I did not read.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I sent this. I'm upset. I'm pissed. No, it's okay. I'm not trying to invalidate you. Go ahead. I want everyone to read it. I posted it today.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Bone posted it today. Rachel Wineski posted it today. David Sidorov, the director who deserves a lot more respect than that, posted it today. It was bullshit. You know what? If you enjoy something you want to talk about and you want to post it, then put it up. Don't give me some side commentary about how the harmonies are grading you can hold a harmony for your goddamn life oh girl okay i said sounds good it's so funny how dare you i sent split cider
Starting point is 01:30:55 uh just the editor-in-chief of an email today i was like hi this art i was glad to see that this got some coverage but i think i was glad that this got a write-up but look like the way this was written was very naggy it was very like wow i did you know you don't you don't want to watch this past the 32nd mark but once you do it's worth it it's i'm not going to give too much away but it's one of the funniest things i've seen in a long time the first line of the article is god the harmonies in this are grating i mean really bad i guess it's it's like rachel winitsky and ned risley have good voices and all, but dot, dot, dot. It's like, shut up. What's the point of this?
Starting point is 01:31:28 Wait, it goes on to later, though, say— It goes on to give some vague superlative thing, and then— No, but you should definitely keep watching it. Seriously. It's so bizarre. Even though the first 30 seconds are bullshit, you should keep watching it. The first 30 seconds are not bullshit. You're bullshit.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Your article is bullshit, and I'm really insulted by it. This not bullshit. You're bullshit. Your article is bullshit. And I'm really insulted by it. This is real. No, it is real. Yeah, it feels real. And I'm serious. This is stupid. And this is like,
Starting point is 01:31:54 comment culture has now gone to this place now where none of us even fucking know each other, but we're all tearing each other down. And this is like fellow comedians and people trying to do their thing. And you're not a critic, dude. Wow. Oh, I guess that's like the point then. Like if you're yeah i guess i was gonna say he's not a critic and it's like it's not your job to critique it wasn't like this is a review of this piece it was like you posting it willingly and it's like they put a lot of work into that
Starting point is 01:32:18 a lot of work goes into musical comedy you should know because your your group back in the day tried to half do it um oh girl you are presuming i'm sorry but like this it was bullshit and i really don't appreciate it okay all right well i guess i guess i'll go i really don't have anything prepared and it will not be nearly as incendiary that's why i didn't want to go first oh my god oh no i don't care i fully stand behind what i said yes of course i'm glad you i'm glad you said that um because rachel winoski is one of the most brilliant people i know and she's an amazing writer an incredible singer and a really great comedian and for anyone to come out there and preface her by saying wow her voice is grating fuck you terrible and and you lost my respect okay here we go i think i'm ready sorry brandon no i'm gonna change my i don't think so no don't change it no i'm just kidding
Starting point is 01:33:12 okay here we go are you gonna time me yeah sorry i'm a little uh no you are this is i don't think so i don't know how joel feels about what i just did um go i don't think so honey undecided voters in Pennsylvania who talk back at me while I'm phone banking for Hillary motherfucking Rodham Clinton. You want to come at me and say, just hang up the phone. I would rather you hang
Starting point is 01:33:35 up the phone, even scream at me if you want to, but do not troll me while I'm calling you to see, trying to gauge who you're going to support in November, but you say, well, who do you think is going to win? I called this man up. I said, hello, is this person here at home? And the person who answered said, no, this is his father.
Starting point is 01:33:52 He was incarcerated because he got into a domestic dispute with his girlfriend. And I don't support. And I think she's lying. And I was like, well, I don't want to get into this with you. And then he asked me who I thought was going to win. And I go, well, I'm calling from the Hillary Clinton campaign. Who do you think i think is going to win and i said hillary clinton and he said well i'm voting for hillary but donald trump is my man and i quote he said donald trump has got the popular vote on lock and i laughed i laughed across the receiver i laughed across the line honey you are not a worthy voter for this democratic tenet i don't
Starting point is 01:34:28 think so honey i don't i don't think so one minute and seven seconds so you call and yes announce yourself as somebody calling from the hillary clinton campaign yes and then he asks you who you think's gonna win and i said I said, well, I think Hillary. If the polls are indicating anything, and he goes, nope. See, I think Donald Trump is connecting with people. And he said, I'm going to vote for Hillary, but Donald is my man. Yes, it made no sense. That made no sense.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Speaking of negging, he was negging me, and I was like... I can't deal with dumb people anymore. I can't. I just can't. And before I got off the phone with him, he was like, yeah, well, I'm sorry you can't deal with dumb people anymore I can't and he I just can't and before I got off the phone with him he was like yeah well I'm sorry you couldn't reach my son
Starting point is 01:35:09 but you know this domestic bullshit it sucks like it's a woman's word over his now and I'm like I I don't want to talk about this with you
Starting point is 01:35:18 oh my god it was so uncomfortable I've been having that's why I'm voting for Jill Stein oh good thank god thank god I was having
Starting point is 01:35:24 could you imagine I who knows anymore oh I couldn't imagine because it's all too real oh my god That's why I'm voting for Jill Stein. Oh, good. Thank God. Thank God. I was having... Could you imagine? Who knows anymore? Oh, I couldn't imagine because it's all too real. Oh, my God. I mean, I guess we don't know each other politically that well, but like, come on. Come on. There's no way. No, you know I'm making the right decision.
Starting point is 01:35:36 No, I know you would make the right decision. Okay. BSJ, these have been some heavy, I don't think so, honeys, but I think you can bring us back. You better come hard Biestre mine's gonna be niche probably now I mean no
Starting point is 01:35:48 no think of no this is a niche podcast okay well this is this is technically culture but
Starting point is 01:35:53 here we go are you ready I don't think so honey Brandon Scott Jones time starts now okay I don't think so honey City of Toronto and
Starting point is 01:36:01 and your bullshit baseball team the Toronto Blue Jays alright this is called the Major League Baseball of Toronto and your bullshit baseball team, the Toronto Blue Jays. All right? This is called the Major League Baseball and it's America's pastime. It is not Canada's pastime.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And just because you think that you are the wildcard winners of last night's game between the Toronto Blue Jays and the Baltimore Orioles makes you a better team. It does not, honey. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:36:21 You have nasty fans. You have loud fans. You have fans. And first of all all I want to make it very clear I love Canada but Toronto you ain't no Montreal you know it you know I don't think so honey you are not a Montreal poutine does not come from Toronto
Starting point is 01:36:33 alright second of all okay I need I need to I need to get this out there you do not throw a can of beer at a baseball player on the field I don't care whether or not they're from your city or they're not from your city. But let me tell you something. I'm fine if Trump wins and he cuts you guys up because I'm that pissed at you.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Just kidding. Vote Hillary Clinton. I don't think so, honey. Trump is a piece of shit. Hillary is the way to go. It's hard to say I don't think so, honey, when you want to make a point about somebody you like. Okay, goodbye. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Yes! Beautiful. That was amazing. That was wonderful. Yes! Beautiful. That was amazing. That was our first athletic, I don't think, major league baseball. I don't think so, honey. It was incredible.
Starting point is 01:37:11 You had a whole episode about sports. We did. And then we just abandoned it and probably talked about fucking RuPaul. Oh my God. We have some Toronto stories for you. Matt and I were in Toronto for the Toronto Sketch Festival in 2015.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Oh, yes. We got up one morning. We decided to go to a local brunch spot. There was a line outside. A short line. But then I decided to do the sensible thing and walk inside the restaurant and ask the hostess how long the wait was.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Does that sound normal to you guys? Great. As soon as I walk past the threshold of the door this fucking sandbag human piece of shit motherfucker dude stops me and goes hey what do you think you're doing i go i'm walking into the restaurant to ask how long the wait is yeah because i see you standing in line and you're with your trifling ass and say this to him um trifling ass trifling ass and he goes he goes well the way things work he goes the way things work around here is you you wait in the back of the line and he
Starting point is 01:38:20 i gotta tell you this person was oh i was there no you and sudi were on your way it was me rachel and doug who were waiting and so and then oh my god and i i turned him and i go thank you so much for your help and then rachel winitsky speaking of the god bless her goes wow people she goes wow people in canada are nice, aren't they? And then we walked to the back of the line because he refused to let us inside the restaurant. It was a fiasco, and he was by far the rudest human being
Starting point is 01:38:55 I've ever met in my life. Anyway, Toronto, I don't think so, honey. As a Canadian citizen, I get to say this. Yes, I realized that midway through. No, that's okay. I want to just make sure that you know that I do love that country. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:39:06 And I'm sure Toronto has fine parts, but I don't think so much of Toronto. I don't think so much of Toronto. And Toronto, listen, you ain't no Montreal,
Starting point is 01:39:11 you ain't no fucking Chicago, bitch. Yeah. Don't try to be that Great Lakes, Midwestern city. When I drove up to Toronto, I thought it was going
Starting point is 01:39:19 to be good, bitch. A good skyline, everything. I went in there, nothing. Not nothing. Not nothing like Chicago, not nowhere as clean, not nowhere as good people. good skyline everything I went in there nothing not nothing not nothing like Chicago not nowhere as clean
Starting point is 01:39:28 not nowhere as good people not nothing as good food not nothing not even as tall a building you know what they don't have in Toronto what culture culture honey
Starting point is 01:39:38 there's no fucking culture there you want culture no culture get your French on go to Montreal because it's beautiful I don't care if they have a big cross on a mountain i fucking love that place they might toronto might have a
Starting point is 01:39:49 second city but they it ain't shit no exactly toronto is the second city second to none i mean all right we've had wine um guys this has been the last culture racist podcast i have to say this has been one of my favorite this has been one of my favorite episodes. This has been one of my favorite episodes. Have me back after the Oscars for a little wrap-up. See if our predictions came true. Future repeat guests. This is just too good. Brennan, I love you.
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Starting point is 01:40:40 goodbye no I'm Bowen Yang I'm Matt Rogers. Bye. Bye. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsey, and Brett Bohm. For more podcasts, please visit foreverdogproductions.com. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, El Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home
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