Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "PARROTHEADS" (w/ Sandy Honig)

Episode Date: June 5, 2019

In todays episode, Sandy Honig (Three Busy Debras) joins Matt and Bowen to discuss what is and is not eraser, all things Jimmy Buffett, the straight part of Fire Island, and Sandy's time on Vice Live....---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah. Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling. Look at us tenors.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Tenor two. You shut up. I can't do tenor one notes, honey. I think you have the vocal power that no one understands. Like who? Like whom do I have the vocal power? Freddie Mercury himself. I believe that you possess the vocals of the legend known as Freddie Mercury.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You lie. You have such a high voice. But you know, I don't have my, going from voice to falsetto, insane mass. You mean going from like chest to falsetto? What do you mean? What are you saying? Chest to head is female specific. Okay, bitch.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So women don't have falsettos. They have head voice and chest voice. I know that. This is all for the listeners because I know that. Yeah, sure. Of course I know that.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And then for men, it's, oh, I don't know what the chest voice equivalent is. It might just be chest voice. Belimassio. Belimassio. Belimassio.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Belimassio falsetto. Nope. Not real. Belimassio falsetto apparicio. Oh. Yalitio Falsetto Aparicio. Oh. Yalitza Aparicio. Aparicio.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yes, that's what they call it when you sing it from the stomach. They call it Yalitza. Yalitza Aparicio. And actually, Yalitza was named after the men's stomach voice. Yes. God bless her. I think, you know what? I was bucketed as a bass in high school.
Starting point is 00:03:44 How dare they? Was that because you were doing Masked Dragon talking like this, dude? No, I really wasn't. I was fully, I was fully up, up, up. And they made you sing bass? And some fucking dude. What was his name? Say it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Well, my choir teacher's name was Michael Grant, and he's wonderful. But there was this guy. Grin or Gwin? Grant. Mike Grant. I'm sorry. Neither of the ones I said. But there was this other man named Rob.
Starting point is 00:04:11 His literal name was Rob Lowe. And he was this, oh, my God. He was just like textbook. I have a crush on that. No? I have a crush on that. And I don't mean to shame him on his looks. But he actually, well, actually, I do mean to shame him on his looks because he sucked.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh, wow. Of course. If you suck, you should be shamed. Absolutely. And so he was just like this hippie in his 60s who was mean and rude. Wow. And he one time. A hippie in his 60s who was mean and rude?
Starting point is 00:04:42 And he, so he would sometimes, he would be the accompanist for the musicals. And then one day the stage lights were on, we were doing a tech week, and the lights were on, and he just had done something the night before, clearly, had been on some drug, was hungover. And he just, we're in the middle of like,
Starting point is 00:05:00 warmups and scales, and then he just turns to the tech booth and stops, and he goes, can someone turn these goddamn lights down so he was a shitty person that's such abuse such abuse that is such abuse but like theater space anyway so he so he's doing scales and i guess in the placement exam of choir he like i couldn't hit a D the third C or some shit I mean he's horrible at his job if he's calling you a bass because honey tenor tenor one
Starting point is 00:05:30 what do they call a super high tenor counter tenor and what are you bitch should we find out right now ha ha okay so that's famously your voice and we said we were finding out what my thing is really quickly it's unfortunate that there's a razor on the pod fortunate that there's a
Starting point is 00:05:52 razor on the pod get you go come on go scale up to the highest note I have the results. I have the results. I have the results. I have the results. What's the result? Nat Rogers. Is a countertenor contralto. Oh my God. I can't believe I'm a countertenor contralto.
Starting point is 00:06:30 To be here feels amazing. I join the likes of Freddie Mercury and Ricky Martin. Ricky Martin. She bangs more like she sings well. Listen, talk about people that do things well. Oh, talk about
Starting point is 00:06:45 multi-talented. I would describe this person's performance capabilities as volcanic. Volcanic. I would say that watching this person perform is incredible. You know why it's volcanic? What? She is hot and gorgeous and it creates
Starting point is 00:07:01 fertile ground for other things. So, yes. Volcanic ash. Volcanic soil. Can I say yes and? And. Yes and. Yes and.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Improv? Improv. We love her. I love her improv. And. Yes and. We love her improv. And she loves doing it all around town.
Starting point is 00:07:20 She's an improviser. Well-known improviser to the stars. Stop. This sucks. This sucks. We're not fully straight on improv. No, it's amazing. Okay, no improviser, well-known improviser to the stars. This sucks. This sucks. No, it's amazing. Wait, no. Can I say this?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Let me say this. Give me the room. Give me the space. This will be forever the episode where you sang instead of me. You really, truly took that from me. You would go. There was a hot moment in time where I was obsessed in a new way
Starting point is 00:07:47 with this performer because i'd always been a fan and then i went to the bongo hour oh do you know the bongo hour i i'm a fan of the bongo hour i live for the bongo i love the bongo the bongo hour is peter smith sandy honig ben moss and ben moss and i had been going to bongo hour consecutively because i was so obsessed because i felt that it was unlike any other variety show i agree and the performances that sandy would do i was like i'm sorry i i was i was going with dave a lot and i was like that is a fucking star that's a star true star well you did you but you didn't think this no i always thought this but then i was like oh it's on the next level.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's like that thing where it's like, you always knew the person was good, but you didn't know they were like, what the fuck? But the moment though was Carnegie Hall. I love the Carnegie Hall. We got to talk about, because Carnegie Hall, I think. Three busy Debras at Carnegie Hall. Hello, if you've been living under a rock. This sounds so fucking gross of me to say. I haven't even heard it yet, but I believe it's going to be gross.
Starting point is 00:08:45 We will be talking about that Carnegie Hall show for years to come. For years to come. I think we, no, truly I think we will. I mean, it was an iconic moment. Gorgeous, iconic moment in the community. In the community, which it is. Which is, which is tight.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Everyone is best friends. Everyone is best friends. In this community, I actually don't have a non-best friend. I don't have any enemies. Let me think. One, two, three, four. Nope, they're all my best friends. But best friends In this community I actually don't have A non best friend I don't have any enemies Let me think One two three four Nope they're all my best friends
Starting point is 00:09:08 But truly it was A gorgeous night Never talked a word of shit About anyone Now she hosts Pig Free show every Tuesday At the Slipper Room Can you believe free
Starting point is 00:09:15 Free Maybe you didn't hear free I said free I think they heard A lot of people think Nothing's Well nothing's free Nothing's free
Starting point is 00:09:21 A lot of people will say that There's no There's no free lunch There's no such thing as a free lunch. Well, bitch, this is free. She hosts it with Peter Smith. The Peter Smith. Also, incredible photographer.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I mean, yeah. Ricky Magdays. Ooh, I loved her stuff back in Ricky Magdays. Multi-talented. I would call this person, and stay with me here, a multi-hyphenate. A multi-hyphenate. A multi-hyphenate. And she's exhausting. And she's exhausting.
Starting point is 00:09:47 No, and also one of the hosts and panelists of Vice Live. Yeah. And we will get into it, hon. Rest in peace, Vice Live. R.I.P. Vice Live. She actually has an amazing- We love you. She got to have a view moment where she was like, we'll talk about this.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We gotta talk about it. I gotta- That to me is iconic. That's iconic. Anytime you get to announce you're leaving something you made it on TV
Starting point is 00:10:07 on television that's my dream medium it is my dream to be like it's my last day it's my dream to be like
Starting point is 00:10:12 it's my dream to be like after a lot of thought and prayer and counsel from God I've decided that I'm leaving The View
Starting point is 00:10:19 and everyone goes aww yeah not even like what it's just like aww cause it's understood that if you're on the view, you will leave the view.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yes. Anyway. Anyway. What can we say? What can we say? Please welcome into your ears. Sandy Honig! Wow, that was the greatest introduction I've ever gotten in my life.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I could have just, I'll just sit there and just let you guys. No, no way. You're in this now. Here's the thing. You are deserving of the intro. Yes. It's too kind. It's not.
Starting point is 00:10:44 We've loved you for literal years. I think, what have we known each other for? Nine years? Nine. In some capacity? It might be. I've lived in New York for eight years. Oh, so I can't believe I've known you since before that because I'm right. Yeah. No, I mean. No, I met you. No, wait. You actually
Starting point is 00:10:59 might be right because I came to visit my brother at NYU and he brought me. I didn't go to a Hammercats show but I went to a Hammercats party that was after a show and I remember him I remember meeting Sudi and I think I met you as well. Sudi and I were
Starting point is 00:11:15 very much inseparable so that probably was true. I was around we talked about this today I was always at the shows and at the parties because I was like the number one fan. Bowen was always, Bowen would always come to the sketch shows. I would always go to the improv shows. Can I say something?
Starting point is 00:11:31 It was very insular, that little bubble. Can I say, I'm going to fucking say something crazy. Oh, I can't wait. But Hammercats and Dangerbox. Dangerbox was the improv group. Hammercats was the sketch group at the time. Those were the two groups. And there was tension my freshman year between the groups.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I love, for whatever reason, I was in Dangerbox. He was the improv boy. Yes, and. Yes, and. Improv all around town. And then I would, and then I credit myself and Nicole and like the generation that came up and like Sudi and Allison and you
Starting point is 00:12:01 like our little coterie. We fucking started to rebuild the bridges you reached across the aisle you had an eve pizer barry weiss moment oh my god she came in here and said she had no cultural references she sits her ass down and she said by the way i have no cultural references meanwhile we're fucking talking about college improv and she says the words barry weiss and Eve Pizer and you guys reached across the aisle you wrote an op-ed about it we're actually friends because we talk
Starting point is 00:12:30 to each other on the internet shut the fuck up both of you I don't know you that well Eve did write on the Vice show she's nice she is very nice it just was a very funny moment to like read this article which was like can you believe two rich New York liberal Jews could be friends?
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I was like, yeah, that is crazy. Yeah, that's wild. Groundbreaking even. The like socialist versus like centrist, but you're still liberal and you agree, but it's like, like okay we couldn't be more different and like the centrist straight to serious honestly the centrist one is gay and it's like whatever but she's Bill Mars
Starting point is 00:13:14 you know she's just always like on the show being like the Me Too movement has gone too far yeah it really has do I feel that's her genuine belief you know what but the Me Too movement has gone too far Sandy no
Starting point is 00:13:27 now Sandy oh no here she goes it's gone too far and Sandy is guess what liberal Jewish
Starting point is 00:13:35 that's it you pointed to the third finger and had nothing I had nothing to say that's beyond that that's how he that's how he sees Sandy what more is there
Starting point is 00:13:43 hey when I hear how Jewish I am I literally just came here on the subway from Fiddler on the Roof in Yiddish full Yiddish in full Yiddish
Starting point is 00:13:52 in full Yiddish but Jake was telling me the subtitles were on the screen yes subtitles on the screen but I didn't need them but your aunt is there I don't speak Yiddish but I've seen the play
Starting point is 00:14:01 so many times and I get the little I get the little words you know I get little ones coming in I get little words the weirdest one was there's a song in the have you seen I have it's been a long time
Starting point is 00:14:13 since I've seen Fiddler but I saw a high school production of it oh I bet that was good you know what how was the Firmacera Firmacera was over the top which I think was perfect. And quickly, I will say my favorite Frumicera story is Amanda Schachtman was... What's the wife's name? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Golda. Golda. So she was Golda. Is Golda. There's a scene where Golda is singing and in the back, Frumicera is doing something. And in this production, Frumicera was on a high ladder. Yeah. She's always got to be tall. She's always gotta be tall.
Starting point is 00:14:45 She's gotta be tall so she was on a very high ladder and the ladder fell over and Frumicera came plummeting to the ground and Amanda Escalda just kept going.
Starting point is 00:14:54 She was Frumicera. No, no, no. She was Golda and behind her Frumicera had plummeted because it was a high school production which didn't make it safe
Starting point is 00:15:01 for the kids. Why would she be on a ladder? That seems really ill-advised. To have like a costume that covers a ladder so if the ladder didn't make it safe for the kids. Why would she be on the ladder? That seems really ill-advised. To have a costume that covers a ladder, so if the ladder falls, you're just trapped on the ladder. Actually, one second. One second. Junior year of high school, Miss Lisa Wood did a production of- You are naming names today.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Of Barnum. No, she actually scarred me creatively, and I truly resent her to this day, and I don't care if she listens. She decided it was a good idea. It was Barnum. It was circus themed. It was basically The Greatest Showman
Starting point is 00:15:29 but bad. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Back up. You just said
Starting point is 00:15:35 it's like if The Greatest Showman was bad. No stop. I'm going to stick up for The Greatest Showman. Actually, there's like a legion of people out there who fucking love that movie.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Okay. I mean, it's just like crazy. I didn't, like before watching it, I didn't know that like I could be me. Yeah, right. And it took someone to say, this is me. This is me. The sharpest words. This is me.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But the thing is though, I had been looking for a way to say this is me. And then it really gave me the vocabulary. Yeah. And when the sharpest words try to cut me down, I'm going to send the flood. I'm going to drown them out. This is bold. This is brave. This is who I'm meant to be.
Starting point is 00:16:13 This is bold. This is brave. This is Maybelline. And honestly, the whole thing was a fragrance commercial. It was. And I love any movie that's a fragrance commercial. I'm sorry. I love when... Okay, so let's go. We're keeping going Jew.
Starting point is 00:16:26 At the Seder last night. Keep it going Jew. My great aunt was talking about, she kept like accidentally doing commercials. She was talking about, because her last name was Honig. It's not anymore, but you know, before she got married. And she said that she only drives Hondas. She'll never stray from the Honda because she goes, when I get behind the wheel and I see that H,
Starting point is 00:16:48 I just feel great. I love the way it looks. I love looking at the H. I just feel great. And I was like, we should just film this and send it to Honda. I just feel great.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I look at that H and I feel amazing. Yeah. No, she's speaking to everyone there. Oh my God. Why? And that's the thing is it's like, why? Actors with commercial auditioning, it's like none of us can do this as good as real people.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You want us to be real people anyway, so get one. I know so many people who could make a killing in commercial auditioning and they don't even know it. They don't even know it. Charismatic people who actually have real skills outside of performance, who are out there. Who are compelling to listen to. They could make a killing in commercials and they don't even know it. Charismatic people who actually have real skills outside of performance, who are out there, who are compelling to listen to. They could make a killing in commercials and they don't know. They don't know. Sorry, I interrupted you.
Starting point is 00:17:32 The quick thing is, there was one dance number she decides to have these ladders where one person would stand in the middle and be the hub basically and spin a ladder around. Nope, it's already bad. The others, and then we would have to jump up and down. And literally,
Starting point is 00:17:49 like I fell on one of the ladders as it was coming to me and like I injured myself. And then the woman fucking kicks me out of the show because I didn't give a shit. And I was just like, I don't like being here. And she actually like,
Starting point is 00:17:58 whatever. She is bad. We've told this story and you've gone into great detail and she was in the wrong as the adult in the room. And guess what? If you are an adult
Starting point is 00:18:05 with a high school student you are wrong I had a feud with my high school drama teacher and I wasn't even in any of the plays he just hated me and he would not cast me in any of the plays that's so funny he just hated me that's so funny when okay so just and I will say again it's actually a rule of
Starting point is 00:18:22 culture number 14 if you are a high school teacher in a feud with a student you are wrong's actually rule of culture number 14. If you are a high school teacher in a feud with a student, you are wrong. It's rule of culture. But looking back, can you see the other side? Or are you like, no? I truly, when I, I was not in any of the shows. What did he have against me? And I'm going to tell you what he had against me.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I didn't know what he had against me. What? It's because I was elected to the drama board without having been in any shows. You were that powerful. You. Okay. I just, they elected me to the board. I don't remember what I did.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Elected you to the board. I think to the board of the drama club. And he was like the teacher in charge of it. And he was so mad that I was on it without having been in any of the shows. You didn't play ball. I didn't play ball. So then anytime I auditioned, he didn't give it to me. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And that's politics. He wouldn't let me in. And I think he, well, there's a glimpse into the industry right there. Yeah. That's the industry. The gatekeepers. The gatekeepers. Gatekeepers.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Get to know them. Get to know them, honey. Get to know the gatekeepers. Get to know the gatekeepers. They shape shift and you'll see them a million different times in a million different ways. Yes. But I got to say, if you're, if you have. If you're the New York accent,
Starting point is 00:19:26 but you're just like... But I gotta say, let me just say, if you're a high school teacher and you have ladders in your fucking production, you're busted. You're busted. I see you.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You're gonna kill those kids. You're gonna kill those kids. Those kids are gonna be dead and the blood's gonna be on your hands. And you're gonna say goodbye to Frima Sarah. But say bye to Frima Sarah. Frima Sarah. More like Frima No Head.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Because she fell over, her fucking head came off. Yeah. Because her fucking ladder wasimma Sarah. Frimma Sarah. More like Frimma no head. Because she fell over her fucking head came off. Yeah. Because her fucking ladder was in the show. This is just wrong speed. No, it's original. No, come on.
Starting point is 00:19:53 No, it's me and how my family talks. Actually, so this is actually erasure. Erasure. This is erasure. This is actually eraser. Erase?
Starting point is 00:20:02 This is eraser. This is eraser. Yeah, this is eraser.er and this is a racer this is a racer Sandy talk about your final episode at Vice Live I also love that like it was accompanied by a bang
Starting point is 00:20:17 I banged the table I said so let me just I'm sorry I can't stop because I like the way it's reverb honestly it gives it a dramatic attention that I love. I love any story of someone leaving a show publicly. So please. So for the fans, Vice Live was a weekly... No, sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Nightly live talk show. Four nights a week. When it first started, it was two hours long. Four nights a week. Psychotic. For three weeks, we did it two hours a week. When it first started, it was two hours long. Four nights a week. Psychotic. For three weeks, we did it two hours a night. And then they reduced it to an hour. And then I think all together, we did seven weeks on the air before I left.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yes. And I had it in my contract that I could leave for another, for the Debra's show. For Debra. For the Busy Debra's. For the Busy Debra's if the show got picked up and then they picked us up. Great. So, which I'm so excited about. Which we love.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Which we love. And well-deserved and iconic for the Busy Debra's. Yes. Thank you so much. It will be absolutely stunning. And so I was like, okay, I got to leave. I got to go. Got to go.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And it was very funny, actually, because the producer in i was like okay i gotta leave i gotta go gotta go and the it was very funny actually the producer in charge was like so i think rather than having you have like a last episode where it's like here your day here yeah here one day gone the next we're just gonna phase you out which i was like okay sure it ended up actually being a lot more fun so for the whole last week i was there i was just doing little bits. And you brought Peter in for a cooking demo? Yeah. So it was basically like I would just do bits like they would like as a runner, which ended up being way more fun than just being on the couch and like talking about rappers I've
Starting point is 00:21:56 never heard of as though I knew who they were. Because it got to a point where like, I was like, I'm not going to look these people up because me reading one Wikipedia entry is not going to replace an entire cultural knowledge of this person so I'm just not so I was just sitting there being like yeah it is crazy that she said that I was like yeah I know
Starting point is 00:22:15 isn't that it is like kind of insane but if you actually really think about it this is Eraser and they were like yeah applause break applause break standing ovation the number of applause breaks I got talking about
Starting point is 00:22:27 things I had no idea what I was talking about was pretty incredible was there a live audience yeah there was a live audience love that live audience so stressful
Starting point is 00:22:36 it was like so then I was like okay I'm gonna leave had a whole last episode where it was like my goodbye episode you know I did my little bits where it was like
Starting point is 00:22:44 oh I was giving like performance reviews to the other uh cast members ha ha ha um and then they like played a little joke you know oh highlight reel and they were gonna play an actual highlight reel from my time on the show from the seven weeks from the seven weeks we had been on the air they had put together like a highlight reel and i was like forget i said please please please please please do not do this to me do not put together a highlight reel of my seven weeks on this show in which i did not do well like it's just it's just not a context in which i feel like i thrive is like just just like riffing on culture you know yes yes yes yes it just is not what i am good at right right and so i just was
Starting point is 00:23:27 like please do not do this so i made them put together a like two second clip that was like you know they put like oh sandy's highlights and it was just like what two second clip would be like fumbling and then it was like and then goodbye goodbye goodbye this is on a thursday on monday show canceled and And no more airing. No more airing. So that ended up being the last episode. The last episode of the show was like, and Sandy's leaving and it's so sad.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Also very funny because the audience, they're not, it's not like they watch the show every night. They're just like random people that came to the taping. They pulled in. So it's like they showed up and the whole episode was like,
Starting point is 00:24:04 it's Sandy's goodbye episode and they had to go like oh. And I was like you guys don't know who I am. You don't know what the show is. But they had to be like oh and like give me applause. Which was just so funny. Insane. As if they like. Truly give you an emotional send off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And then I yeah and then Monday show cancelled. Like just from the network and then like everyone on staff was like oh I guess we don't have a job anymore. Yeah, it was very well. No one actually told me from the show. My friend Jack, you know, Jack Bensinger? Yeah. He moved here from Chicago pretty recently.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Very, very funny boy. Very talented. He was, I brought him into the show a while ago. He got fired and rehired twice throughout the time on the show and then fired again. Well-oiled machine. Well-oiled machine. And then after I left, they brought him back in. So on Monday, he showed up for his third time working at this show and then texted me being like,
Starting point is 00:25:01 Hey, I'm like back at work, but they're having a giant meeting with everyone who works here. And then five minutes later, he texted me being like, show's canceled. Oh, my God. No. People don't know. We have not figured out how to do those panel shows. No. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's a hard thing. Also, every night is hard. It's very hard. Every night. Two hours. What was that like? Well, first of all, walk us through the typical day in those first stages. What time would you go in?
Starting point is 00:25:28 I got in around like two or three, depending on the day. And then the show aired, when it was two hours, it aired at nine from nine to eleven. And then when it was one hour from ten to eleven. That's a long time. It's a long time, a long day. And then a long day to just like, I just, i don't know anything that we were talking about you would look up like takashi yeah but da ba da you know it was a debbie matt novelist situation for all my view has viewed people it really was just like i don't know why you hired me like i really i feel
Starting point is 00:26:03 like i showed up every day being like, I don't know what you thought. I know that the reason that I got the show was because when I was testing for it, I talked about, the thing was like, oh, well, what's a good gift you could get someone after six weeks of dating? And I was saying that a pack of batteries is a great gift. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And I was just, I just talked about batteries for like five minutes. Beautiful. She can talk about anything. Yeah, and they were like, oh, she's so funny. And I was like, no was just, I just talked about batteries for like five minutes. Beautiful. She can talk about anything. Yeah, and they were like, oh, she's so funny. And I was like, no, you hired someone
Starting point is 00:26:28 who talked about batteries for five minutes. I was like, I don't know anything about pop culture. I just know about batteries. Oh my God. It's incredible too
Starting point is 00:26:35 because you are so good at so many things and to get this one job where they're like, hi, all we're going to ask you to do is the thing you can't do, the one thing that you cannot do. It really was just like,
Starting point is 00:26:44 I can't believe this is the first TV thing that I cannot do. It really was just like I can't believe this is the first like TV thing that I'm doing is something that I feel like I am the worst at. It's just like it sucks to feel like actively feel like you're failing live on television
Starting point is 00:26:58 and it was a live show which I thought would be very scary and it actually wasn't that scary but even but how do you reconcile that with you feeling kind of crazy about failing on TV? It somehow felt more like, I actually felt like I played better on camera than I did in the room. Oh. Interesting. I played a lot to the camera.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Well, that's good. I played to the folks at home, a.k.a. my parents. Did they watch every night? Yes, my dad watched every night. My mom would watch the next day. Beautiful. Honestly, yeah, that's a skill, though. Like, you missed live performance
Starting point is 00:27:37 on Saturday Night Live. Oh, great job. You did so well. You were so funny. You didn't understand what was going on. I was like, do I, when do I talk? I truly had no idea what was going on. I was like, when do I talk? I truly had no idea what was going on.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I don't remember any of that. You were so funny. Oh my God. I was freaking out. I flipped out. You flipped out. But I did feel like I went to TV grad school where it was like, I know when that red light comes on.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's on me. I know which one to look at and I know how to do prompter and I know whatever. There you go. I think prompter is something I can do but the red light thing and knowing which camera, that would be hard for me because color blindness. Can't see them.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's not a reason to not put me on live TV by the way everyone listening. I can learn. I can change my eyes. Can you see or you can't tell if it's green or red? It's a thing of like green and red is actually very difficult for me. Right. Because it switches from green to red.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah. Is color weak? Color weak? I guess. Oh, is that what it's called? You're talking to a photographer. Oh, is that color weak, red, green, color blindness? I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It's like red, green, color weak. I didn't know there was like another term for it. They've told me. You also might be right. I have no idea. Listen. Who am I but the daughter of two doctors? Of course. I didn't know there was like another term for it. They've told me. You also might be right. I have no idea. Listen. Who am I but the daughter of two doctors? Of course.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I mean merely the daughter of two PhDs. It's like I can see colors but I can't tell them apart often. It's like if blue and purple are next to each other that's a nightmare. Red and green.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Brown and green, forget about it. Truly forget about brown and green. But are those hard for you guys too? Don't put you in a forest, honey. Don't put me in a forest. Don't put me there. Can't see the forest for the... I keep snagging the table. I'm sorry. Can't see nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Can't see the forest for the trees. My dad... And that's not changing the expression. No. My dad, my one job when I was little, like my chore that I would have to do is I would have to go clean up the dog shit in the yard. Oh, no. And that was a fucking nightmare because I could never see the dog poop because it was famously brown. How did you realize you were colorblind?
Starting point is 00:29:40 In third grade, they pulled me into the nurse's office just to do like a routine physical and they do this thing where it's like i've told this on the bottom of the bunch of circles it's a bunch of like little dots of different colors and you're supposed to see a number or like a pattern you're supposed to identify it and they were like okay what number do you see in this thing and i was like four and they were like it's a 22 and i was like oh okay and they're like okay so you're like aggressively colorblind like this is what it. And now they have those glasses you can wear. Then you see the color? Or you can put on cocktail lenses and it will change it.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But I'm scared to do it. Why? Because I feel like it'll freak me the fuck out. But wouldn't that be so cool? Because I always try to imagine in your head a color that you've never seen before. It's impossible to imagine. That's fucking insane. You've never looked through the glasses? I've never done that.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Oh my god, Matt, you have to do that. You have to make one of those viral videos where it's like, puppy, go outside for the first time. Podcast host sees green. Podcast host sees green for the first time. You know what, Psycho? I will walk around this town saying green is my favorite color.
Starting point is 00:30:44 You're lying. I've never actually seen it. You're a liar, then. But my two favorite colors are blue and green, saying green is my favorite color. You're lying. I've never actually seen it. You're a liar then. My two favorite colors are blue and green, at least what my eyes see. What color are your eyes? I don't know. My eyes are actually green.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And that's wherein the trouble lies. I think they're green. They are. No, I can't really tell. I often get blue, but they're going to look green right now. They're green. They're green. They're green. They're green. They're green.
Starting point is 00:31:05 They're green. They're green. They're green. They're green. My grandmother had green eyes. Her Irish eyes. So wait. So to you, green looks brown? Or you don't know?
Starting point is 00:31:15 If you put brown and green together, I can sort of tell you which one is brown and which one is green, but it is laborious. And it's like, is the green you see the green that I see? Exactly. And the answer is no. And the answer is actually no. We know this. We know it's no. We know for a fact it is laborious. And it's like, is the green you see the green that I see? Exactly. And the answer is no. And the answer is actually no. We know this. We know it's no.
Starting point is 00:31:27 We know for a fact it is no and it's going to be one of those things where it's like, I don't know, my doctor when I was little was like, if you were to switch eyes
Starting point is 00:31:34 with a normal person, you would see something fucked up to you. Like if you were to look at the world through my eyes, you'd be like, holy shit. Wait, but you should do it.
Starting point is 00:31:42 That's such a cool experience to see a color you've never seen. You know what? I'll'll do it i guess i'll figure out how to do it i mean what do you mean what's the worst thing that could happen you get freaked out and then you take them off and then i'm back to normal and then you're like spooky spooky oh you should just do acid and then put the glasses on and be like see that would be a whole fucking thing that would be crazy i'd have to be in a safe environment yes you'd have to be in a safe environment are you an acid fan i've done it once and it was the best experience I've ever had
Starting point is 00:32:08 and I never want to do it again because it was so great. See, we did it in the first time. Well, you've done it once. The first time I did it was on Fire Island. Me too! Yes, it was the best experience I've ever had in my life. And then I did it again with Matt in Upstate and it was also wonderful. Yeah, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It didn't take away from the first at all. I like doing it Upstate. The second time I did it was in LA and we were in a house and it was also wonderful. Yeah. It was amazing. It didn't take away from the first at all. I like doing it upstate. The second time I did it was in LA and we were in a house and it was raining and I felt cooped up in the house. So that was a little bit less comfortable, but still a good experience. I'm going to Joshua Tree in a couple weeks. I might there. You got it there. But then I'm like a little bit like a desert and we just have a house and I feel like the only place we could go would be like walking around the desert.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't know. But you're not going to go anywhere. I don't know but you're not gonna go anywhere I don't know when you're tripping Fire Island was so perfect it's perfect you got the beach you got the bay
Starting point is 00:32:52 you got it all it's so close and then you could just walk around and look at all the houses and go wow and then buy a slice of pizza to Fire Island
Starting point is 00:32:59 your mom has a house there yeah I've been going there since I was a little baby baby same I learned how to surf my grandpa had a house there. Yeah, I've been going there since I was a little baby baby. Same. I learned how to surf. My grandpa had a house there. And then he famously kicked us out. What?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, because his wife said we brought sand into the house. Oh, God. Wait, and so you're not allowed back to that? You weren't allowed back to the house? No, we had to. Well, we could come to visit, but we couldn't stay. Because you brought sand into the house. I mean, she just was, she was bad.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah, but Long Island women and like the worst thing you could do is bring sand in the house. Or bring dirt in the house. I think it was just an excuse. Yeah, right. I think she just didn't want us there. My mom and her dad have been not great relations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was kind of like, okay, you don't stay here anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So then my mom found this little like cabin yes in another town that was basically no one was living there you couldn't even see the house it was like
Starting point is 00:33:51 totally overgrown it was this like cabin that this woman's uncle had built and there was just like trees all around it and then she basically was like
Starting point is 00:33:59 I'll take it and then yeah and now it's and it was a little fixed wrapper or is it yeah it's still little but she painted it
Starting point is 00:34:06 fun colors. I love that. And you gotta make it fun. And you gotta make it fun. Yellow, turquoise, pink. Which beach was like your beach growing up on Far Out?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Ocean Bay Park. Ocean Bay Park. Ocean Bay Park was... In fact, all my friends from high school... What street did you say? I actually... I'll name them all.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Bay Street? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Right on the Bay? You guys. Honey. My girlfriends all in high school worked at the market.
Starting point is 00:34:31 The CB market or the Ocean Bay Park market? Actually both. Ocean Bay Park market I mean yeah because they own by the same CB market's really where it's at. What's the last name?
Starting point is 00:34:40 What is their last name? The people that own it. Wait did you I didn't know you grew up going to Fire Island. Like truly all the time. But like the straight parts of Fire Island. That's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Did you ever go to the day camp in Ocean Beach? No, but all my friends did. See, same. Jake went one year. Yeah. My mom tried to get me to go and I got too scared. When did you graduate high school? What year?
Starting point is 00:34:59 2010. 2010. Okay, so yeah, we were probably literally there at the same time. I was 20, 2008. Okay. We have so much crossover 2008 we have so much crossover we have so much crossover we've missed each other
Starting point is 00:35:10 we? several times I'm missing you guys and this is ultimately interesting for the listener for us to sort of catch up and it's even more interesting for them to say what I'm about to say right now Ocean Bay Park Market had the best buffalo chicken wrap wow but CV Market had really good deli sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Truly, I'll never have food as good as the food that I had at those markets. So expensive. Really? Crazy. Because everything has to be imported. Psychotic. Psychotically expensive. A bag of chips is like $12. And truly the sleepiest 14 year old girl working at the cash register at all times.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But she's always cool. Tie-dye sweatshirt, choker, flip-flops 100 my sister worked there too actually blonde but like loose bun but looks good you're 100 describing truly all my girlfriends from high school the loose bun is iconic yeah loose bun iconic with like they're like i play soccer yep they played soccer the soccer girls and all their screen names had either the word soccer or beach in it. I have this thought about the teens who work on in the pines specifically.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Yes, they run Fire Island. Teens. Teens. Truly teens. They run the ferries. It's like scary. It's scary, but I'm just like, are they? This is truly just like, no, this isn't even internalized homophobia. It's not even anything. I'm just like, I look at them and I'm like, do you think that we're crazy? I'm like, no, this isn't even internalized homophobia. It's not even anything. I'm just like, I look at them and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:25 do you think that we're crazy? I'm like, what do you think about us? I think they know what it is. They know what it is. It's teens in the Pines and in Cherry Grove too? I mean, there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:40 young people working there. There's not as many teens in Cherry Grove. No. All the teens are running every single shop in the Pines. I also think probably those jobs are a little
Starting point is 00:36:49 bit more difficult to get because you probably make more money doing the service jobs there but the markets and everything, all teens. But it's like
Starting point is 00:36:57 some gay people can be monsters to these poor children. But also, I don't know if you've been to the street part of Fire Island. They're really wild.
Starting point is 00:37:04 They're insane. They're really bad too. I mean, Ocean don't know if you've been to the street part of Fire Island. They're really wild. They're insane. They're really bad too. I mean, Ocean Beach at night on the weekend. Ocean Beach is a nickname, the land of no. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And it's just all these like, rich Jews that are just like, you can't, you can't ride your bike on the weekdays. You can't, they'll literally, they'll,
Starting point is 00:37:22 they'll kick you out or they'll put you in the jail. They have a jail. There's the jail. They have a jail. There is a jail. Fire Island jail. Yes. It's like one cell. It is truly prominently displayed next to the ferry dock.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Yes. It is right next to the ferry. The Fire Island jail. I've been threatened before, but I've never been put in the Fire Island jail. Oh my God. Did you guys know that Macy's on 34th Street has a jail in the basement? I had no idea. That's almost as iconic as this.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Nicole Byer has this story that she tells and she told it on Seth Meyers, I think, where she would shoplift and she shoplifted from, she would shoplift from Macy's and she had this amazing thing
Starting point is 00:37:56 where she goes, okay, so you say you wanted to steal five t-shirts, you put five t-shirts, you put them all on the same hanger and then you pop,
Starting point is 00:38:04 you just pop tags, basically. And then it's this whole convoluted thing that I can't even paraphrase. But then she got caught one time. And she got taken to the basement of Macy's and was thrown in a jail cell. Oh, my God. Yeah, they'll put you in jail. There's a Macy's jail. You can walk on the street with a drink in Ocean Beach and they'll put you in jail.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm so happy you said the land of no. I hadn't thought of that in so long. It's the land of no. You are under constant threat of being thrown into prison. If you dare ride a bike without a flashlight at night, you'll get a ticket. Yeah. That's insane. Does it look the same as it does in the Pines and Cherry Grove where it's like boardwalks and trees?
Starting point is 00:38:43 They don't have boardwalks. Oh, okay. They're just concrete. It's similar in terms of layout. Does it look the same as it does in the pines in Cherry Grove where it's like boardwalks and trees? They don't have boardwalks. Oh, okay. They're just concrete. It's similar in terms of layout. It's nowhere near as like aesthetically pleasing. God. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Like there's something about Cherry Grove where you feel like you could bite the walls. It's like everything's like candy. Everything's edible. Everything's edible. It's Wonka. Yeah. It's very Wonka-esque. Very Wonka. Very Wonka.
Starting point is 00:39:02 It's very Wonka. Ocean Beach is like. Very Wonka-esque. Very Wonka. It's very Wonka. Ocean Beach is like... Very Wonka. Maybe I've been there too many times, but it's like... I can't see the beauty in it anymore. Like the island... What is that called? The Island Mermaid?
Starting point is 00:39:15 That restaurant? Oh, yeah. The Mermaid, yeah. The Mermaid. The Mermaid. The pantry. Yeah. It's the equivalent to the pantry?
Starting point is 00:39:22 No. Sorry, I'm getting things confused. It's all kind of blending in for me now. It's like a restaurant and a little deli. So get this. So get this. I used to work, you know, the clam bar in the Fire Island. The Nikki's clam bar.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, Nikki's clam bar. I worked there. No way. That was my first job, Nikki's clam bar. Wow. And Nikki's on the Bay was my real job. And then I was like, honestly, Sandy, I did the cash register for like, to get to-go orders. That was my real job and then i was like i i honestly sandy i did the cash register for like what you go to get to go orders that was my first job i wonder if i ever yeah bought a fucking honestly like a paella for me one of the most incredible things is going on the ferry to
Starting point is 00:39:57 fire island in the summer and watching people eat hot clam chowder in the direct sunlight. And that was me. They eat hot clam chowder while just like sweating. It is just like unbelievable. It's not logistically feasible to eat it. And it's honestly not logistically feasible to behave in the manner that we all behave, but they do it.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Hands down, it's not even about logistics. It's not the place to do it. You eat a clam chowder on a boat? You eat clam chowder in a bread bowl when you're skiing. That's when you have clam chowder. When you're downhill on the slopes. That's when you eat it.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I don't know if you've never been to Long Island in the summer. It gets hot. She can get up there at 98 degrees. 99 degrees can feel like 103. Can feel like 103. But you're still baking on the top on the top of the ferry just like eating chowder and it's also too windy to eat it yes the chowder fly chowder fly yes chowder fly oh my god it's but correct me if i'm wrong yeah to get to the
Starting point is 00:41:00 point in your life where people start referring to Fire Island culture as like the gay thing, it's such a hard adjustment from like when we were growing up and it was like aggressively straight and aggro. Yeah. Well, I'm sure it's like if you were to go to Long Island and go back to let's say like – Ocean Beach, Ocean Bay Park. No, like let's say you go back to – I know it. I know where you're from, the neighborhood you're from. Islip. Islip.
Starting point is 00:41:24 If you go back to Islip and you say say fire island the people there aren't going to associate with gay necessarily no that's the thing is it's like everywhere in the world it's like you say the words fire island and they think oh gay and not that is not the case right oh that's what you're saying yeah i'm just saying it it has a whole internally it means something totally it has a whole different identity for people like sandy and i who grew up there. It's true. Wait, you were Long Island? No, I was Connecticut. Connecticut, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:47 But my mom's a surfer. There you go. And I was not good surfing in Connecticut, so we would drive every weekend. Yeah. I'm talking about Northeasterners. There you go. Northeasterners. Who frequent Fire Island, don't think of it as like being gay.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Exclusively gay. But we would always go over there and have fun. Would you? Mm-hmm. See, that was not. Yeah, see, me and my mom, my brother would like walk over and like hang out. Wow. I wish that that had been a thing for me, but it was kind of like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Who would you have gone with, right? Who would I have gone with? Well, I did end up going, oh, wow, that's a whole other story. With the Nikki's boss? So I had a relationship with someone I worked with at Nikki's Clan Bar and then they exposed me to that
Starting point is 00:42:32 fire island for a brief moment. Did you know about it? I knew about it. But it was like the pines. There's something illicit about it. Right. You know what I mean? Cherry Grove. See, Cherry Grove I thought was like the gay part and then now I understand that's more family oriented and the Pines is where you party, right?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Well, Cherry Grove is like more family oriented. It's more where a lot of the lesbians are and it's just like it's homier, I guess is the word. It's also more fun. I think it's a little bit more fun. It's a little bit more low key and it's kind of like, you know, they're just like yeah. It's not as like
Starting point is 00:43:03 I always thought of it as like the Pines is where the like big fancy houses are. Oh, the Pines is House Kitchen and Cherry Grove is Chelsea. Yes, that tracks. Yeah. That tracks. That actually tracks. That actually tracks for me. That actually tracks for me.
Starting point is 00:43:19 That actually tracks for me as well. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us?
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Starting point is 00:44:27 I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are
Starting point is 00:44:55 pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you and it will call you a basket case listen to basket case every tuesday on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey friends i'm jessica capshaw and this is camilla luddington and we have a new podcast call it what it is you may know us from Grey's Loon Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks, a million I've got yous, some very urgent I'm coming numbers. Because I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are, opening up the friendship circle.
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Starting point is 00:46:19 Take it away. We asked this of all our guests, by the way. Sandy Honick, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Think about the culture when you grew up, formative to you, and that put you in this path. And for you, it might be, we're talking to a photographer here as well, everyone. This is true. It could be photography. But it could be multiple answers. It could be movies, books, TV.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You know, it's really all over the place for me. Go. We love that. Because I had very, very exposed to, I had like, for some reason, I very passively accepted culture. Yes. I didn't, it's not like I didn't even know. It was like, I just didn't know you could like seek things out.
Starting point is 00:46:55 It was kind of just like whatever my mom wanted. It was handed down to you. Yeah. And so I didn't have basically the only things that I like the only music I listened to was Aerosmith and
Starting point is 00:47:09 Jimmy Buffett so we are very similar actually Jimmy Buffett I know every song are you a parrot head oh my god
Starting point is 00:47:16 I would have heard of myself as a parrot head my dad is the parrot head you know A Pirate Looks at 40 is right there okay A Pirate Looks at 40 A Pirate Looks at 40 the book is right there this
Starting point is 00:47:27 is the second time we've talked about jim buffett today actually i so funny i mean truly like someone the other day tried to like challenge me on it and she was like oh really you're like a jimmy buffett fan like for real name five songs i was like i could name 20 and she was like okay and then i just did i mean and it was and i didn't even understand that that was like not good like I had friends that would like make fun of me and be like haha Jimmy Buffett and I was like what's the joke I don't understand it's just fun yeah it's
Starting point is 00:47:53 it's they were like well it's like it's like yacht rock and I was like I don't understand like what was so what how is that I hate how that's pejorative but also I used to wish that they you know how on American Idol they would do like theme weeks? I was like, when are they gonna do Jimmy Buffett week? I wanted to hear like someone cover Fins.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yes, Fins, an iconic song. What's your favorite Jimmy Buffett song? I would say that my favorite, depending on my mood. Really depends on the mood. I'm gonna say Cheeseburger in Paradise. Cheeseburger in Paradise is a classic.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I mean, that's a classic, but that's also like, you know. I know, it's not a deep classic. I think Come Monday is maybe his best written song. That's a great one. I think it that's a classic, but that's also like, you know. I know, it's not a deep cut. I think Come Monday is maybe his best written song. That's a great one. I think it has the most emotion in it, but I do, I think Finn's slaps, and I also think
Starting point is 00:48:31 I also think Volcano is good. Yes. And I love, um, I don't love Pencil Thin Mustache, but I love that one. It's iconic. I wish I had a pencil thin mustache. Okay, that's a good one. I wish I had a pencil thin mustache. Okay, that's a good one. I wish I had a pencil thin mustache.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I mean, I'm telling you. But you know his album, Songs You Know By Heart? Yeah, obviously. Obviously, I know them by heart. Yes. But it's called that because none of them were singles or anything, but they are so in the fandom that you truly know them all by heart. And that whole album, I could play back to front
Starting point is 00:49:05 like and also there's other things like Havana Daydream like I don't know like all this shit okay so for me Boat Drink Slaps
Starting point is 00:49:13 Boat Drink Slaps Boat Drink Slaps to talk about changes in latitude changes in latitude nothing remains quite the same okay so
Starting point is 00:49:23 Boat Drink Slaps Son of a Son of a Sailor isabs son of a son of a sailor is gorgeous son of a son of a sailor because then there's the woman that comes in for the like
Starting point is 00:49:31 bridge that woman is iconic and the lady she has from Trinidad wow yeah I know it's a lot do you know what I referenced
Starting point is 00:49:40 before with Mel and no one knew what I was talking about he went to Paris looking for answers to questions that bothered him so. And also that's such a sad, beautiful song. Okay, wait. So did you see Beach Bum?
Starting point is 00:49:55 No. Jimmy Buffett's in it. What? Yeah. So Harmony Corrine's like my favorite director. Yes, you love Harmony. It's not my favorite of his movies but I think that there are some
Starting point is 00:50:07 moments in it that are so worth seeing it and one of them is he has Jimmy Buffet and Snoop Dogg in a scene and they are singing a song together that's genius and I will say that's a bridge it is one of the I met him when I was doing this vice show
Starting point is 00:50:24 Jimmy? No Harmony Harmony and I told him when I was doing this Vice show. Jimmy? No. Oh, Harmony? Harmony. Harmony. And I told him, I was like, I gotta say to you, like,
Starting point is 00:50:29 thank you so much because you gave us what I would consider the greatest Jimmy Buffett song ever written. Wow. And it's called Moonfog and it's like written for- From Beach Bomb? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 This one I don't know. I don't know Moonfog. No, it was written for the movie and it's like, it's really good. And if you listen, you can hear Snoop like on the like in the background
Starting point is 00:50:47 he's not like singing on the track but you can hear him and it was great. I gotta say this is actually beautiful and Sandy came in today being like I don't know that much about culture but seeing you two connect it's so my culture this is huge. Son of a Son of a Sailor is truly beautiful and as I've gotten
Starting point is 00:51:04 older like I guess when I was little I liked the uptempo stuff like obviously Margaritaville is like his iconic song right truly talk about a genius global brand
Starting point is 00:51:12 yes yeah I mean gorgeous marketing did you read that New York Times profile on him no that was when the Margaritaville play
Starting point is 00:51:19 came out yes and it was basically just about how he is this like business mogul yeah who owns so the other Buffett I mogul who owns so many franchises.
Starting point is 00:51:28 And the island lifestyle is so far from what he is now. It's a goddamn brand. It is the definition of a goddamn brand. But I will say, and this is just me speaking as this complete outsider, someone who is not a parrot head, does not really connect to in the same way that you guys are
Starting point is 00:51:47 but I think it is beautiful the thing about Jimmy Buffett is I think he did it's like how people are talking about K-pop now where they're like it's a new invention in music
Starting point is 00:51:55 I don't necessarily think that's true but I think with Jimmy Buff with Jimmy Buffett I think it's beyond Yacht Rock even where it's like Yacht Rock
Starting point is 00:52:03 it's not it's not Yacht Rock but he invented it's a newish invention in rock music I guess I mean it's beyond Yacht Rock even where it's like Yacht Rock. It's not. It's not Yacht Rock, but he invented, it's a newish invention in rock music, I guess. I mean, it's just like a brand. It's truly, it's like a story you can opt into. It's like, I'm island guy. But it's singular.
Starting point is 00:52:17 But it's singular. And it's like no one else has really come close to like mimicking that or emulating that. It specifically, I I think caters to people like my father who was a working class person who worked hard at his job and wanted an escape.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And so it literally is a state of mind that is musicalized. And that is like. And it can be mass produced and mass distributed and everyone can listen to it. Truly genius because you can actually write real songs or you can write full ass joke songs like why don't we
Starting point is 00:52:50 get drunk and screw a classic that one always made me uncomfortable I mean yeah my mom would skip it yeah we listen to it in the car and my mom was like Richie not this one yeah that one always made me uncomfortable yeah I was just like, Richie, not this one. Yeah. Because the kids are in the back. That one always made me uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. I was just sort of. Richie. But he also was like, he's like a full novelist. He is. He's like. He's an artist. He's good at what he does.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And so you're right. No one's really tried to just do brand first. Yeah. Well, actually, you could say that Lady Gaga with Joanne kind of did do that. You know. There's no restaurant. Have you been to the restaurant? Margaritaville, I'll always hit one up
Starting point is 00:53:30 if there's a round. 100%. We've been to Joanne Trattoria. Oh, no, no, no. Wait, you're talking about Joanne Trattoria. Okay, so I was talking about Margaritaville. No, of course. I know what's happening at Margaritaville. And I've taken you to Margaritaville. I have not been to Margaritaville. Sandy. We have to go. It's good.
Starting point is 00:53:45 It's fun. It's fun. It's really fun. I wish they would open one in New York. I know. It's crazy. They have Bubba Gump. Why can't you fucking do Margarita?
Starting point is 00:53:50 But we go. Whenever we go to Orlando. This is insane. We always. I always make a point. I'm like we have to go to Margaritaville because you go to the Margaritaville restaurant and the whole gag of it is you go and you sit at the bar and the um the like huge pitcher that's on top of the volcano fills up and then the whole lights in the restaurant go in and out like and the pitcher tips
Starting point is 00:54:14 over because the volcano's blowing right of course and down the waterfall is the margarita and it fills up a huge blender and then like that is to show that they've they've like the margarita has exploded from the volcano and we can all drink so it's ready so it's ready and then you know what song plays in the I don't know where I'm gonna go when a volcano blows Mr. Utley
Starting point is 00:54:36 oh you know what I love the coral reefers come on that's his backup band he'll go coral reefers yes the steel drum is employed so well. And you eat your cheeseburger in paradise. I've never, I've never been. You gotta go.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Where are, they're all in Florida? No, there's like, well, they're all in the southern, there's one in, there's one in Cancun.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Actually, you know what? I almost said there's one here because I genuinely don't know where I am. There's one in LA. Oh, okay. At the City Walk. Obviously, Universal Studios. Okay, so I'll go there. So here because I genuinely don't know where I am. There's one in LA at the City Walk.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Obviously, Universal Studios. Okay, so I'll go there. So we'll go there. When you come out, when we cross over, you will go. And then there's also one in Orlando. There's one in Cancun. Yes. There's one in the Keys.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And any like island resort. Virginia Beach. Oh, really? All that stuff. Wow. Shocked they don't have one in New York because it wouldn't not slay I mean it's like
Starting point is 00:55:28 we're on an island right hello hello actually we're in Brooklyn right is that an island is Brooklyn an island it's Long Island
Starting point is 00:55:34 well Brooklyn is part of the Long Island so there we go I there's gotta be some other musician out there who has all this this brand I mean we're missing someone but like
Starting point is 00:55:42 a musician a musician with a restaurant like a truly who's a musician with a restaurant. Like a truly- Who's a musician with a restaurant? Oh, Toby Keith. Toby Keith has I Love This Bar and Grill. So he had a song called
Starting point is 00:55:50 I love this bar. It's my kind of place. Okay. And then- There you go. Now there's an I Love This Bar and Grill. And I went there when we were on a Story Pirates trip one time.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And I went there. Josh Lay. He worked on the Vice show he was wonderful he's the best and the handsomest man alive he is such good energy so cute he was truly one of the only people there
Starting point is 00:56:16 that was like positive and like fun everybody else was miserable to be there and he came in every day with great energy and he was always having fun that's who he is I love that guy he is such good energy and I remember
Starting point is 00:56:31 this is how you know I was like a young I think this was about 5 years ago we became friends with him 4 or 5 but I remember we were on this trip and we went to Toby Keith's I love this bar and grill and he was so excited and I was like excited too because I kind of like country music and he ordered a whiskey on the rocks and so I ordered a whiskey on the rocks.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Wow. Wow. That's the power of straight men. Wow. And we hide ourselves. I kind of do that with anyone because I don't really know like drinks at all.
Starting point is 00:57:00 What your drink is. I don't have a drink. Is that sad? It's not sad. My mind is, I've changed. What is yours is. I don't have a drink. Is that sad? It's not sad. Mine is. I've changed. What is yours now? I do martinis now. Because literally of a photo that Sandy
Starting point is 00:57:12 Honig took. Wait, that really? Yes. You gave me my drink. I was like, I look good holding this. Yeah, you did. I'm going to order this. That's an iconic picture of you. And I'm going to order this. Just for the listener, I took the photo of Bowen with the martini. And as of this recording date, Aprilil 21st she's still not been no i actually just got the check oh okay just got the check never mind just got i was i was in i was out of
Starting point is 00:57:35 town and i was like really pissed off again being like i can't believe they still haven't fucking paid me this is for out magazine and so i just want to call you out um okay and i was like about to like like pop off again and then i was like oh wait and then i got home and i had the check and i was like all right thank god okay when the check come in when the check oh when the check come in when the check come in i love i love i love i love when the check comes in. That's a beautiful song you can say when you get a check. That I can say. That Matt wrote. Really?
Starting point is 00:58:10 I wrote that. I love it. It's beautiful. Thank you. I'm musical. He's very musical. Did the rest of the team get paid? I know that.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I have to check in with my assistant. I know that the set gal did get paid. Did. Okay. That makes me feel a lot better. This sentence. I have to check in with my assistant. It's Sandy Honig. It's Sandy Hon paid. Did. Okay. That makes me feel a lot better. This sentence. I have to check in with my assistant. It's Sandy Honig.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It's Sandy Honig. Power. Power. I have to check my assistant. Only the Buffetts and the Honigs. Mm-hmm. Well, he was just my assistant for that shoot. I see.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I don't have an assistant. I'm just pleased, honey. I bet Jimmy Buffett has a whole fleet of assistants. Oh, he's got a bunch of little girls in bikinis. Yep. Hondo. I'm sure. Honestly, we had a room in our house. This will be the last thing I say, but it little girls in bikinis. Yep. Hondo. I'm sure. Honestly, we had a room in our house.
Starting point is 00:58:47 This will be the last thing I say, but it's important I say this. Yeah, okay. I think you will understand. But no one understood. Whenever I would invite anyone over to my house in high school, I was like, you have to come see the room. There was a hole. You have to. There was an entire room in my house which was covered in parrots, parrot paraphernalia, photos of beaches, and Jimmy Buffett paraphernalia. And it just crossed over to Kenny Chesney.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I've seen this room. You've seen it? Yeah. It took over an entire room. The entire back den of my house was Jimmy Buffett themed. Where's that stuff now? I don't know. Wait, so when you do your 73 questions video, you have to do it there and then be like,
Starting point is 00:59:31 do you want to see where the magic happens? Yeah. And then be like, bring it. Follow me and you think I'm going to my gorgeous luxe bedroom with satin sheets and it's the Buffett room. Yeah, the Buffett room. My mom didn't have that. She just had it all over every room.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yep. My mom's dashboard in her car was like two like parrots in a little barrel. Like my mom is beach. My mom is true beach bum. The theme is beach. Yeah. The theme is beach with her entire life. She's from Manhattan. It's an escape.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But she like ran away to Barbados and like is just like surf girl. And she lives on Fire Island. Wow. I love that. She lives on Fire Island. Yeah. And then in the winter, she's in Brooklyn with her boyfriend or in Costa Rica. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:15 She's just beach girl. And she's a doctor you said? She's a doctor. So she does like, it's like a new thing, telemedicine, where you can basically just like video chat with a doctor. Yes. So she just can do that from wherever. Oh my God. That's amazing. That is it. it's like a new thing telemedicine where you can basically just like video chat with a doctor yes so she just can do that from wherever
Starting point is 01:00:26 oh my god that's amazing that is it imagine achieving she's a surf doctor it sounds like that's like an actualized lifestyle
Starting point is 01:00:33 yes you know what I mean like fully achieving like you are fulfilling all of your needs your own personal needs all of them all the boxes are being chucked
Starting point is 01:00:41 okay here's a question if you were to step into the reality of what you really, if you're to get that actualized lifestyle, where are you? What are you doing? What's your schedule? Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I can go first. Yeah, you go first. That's a big, heavy question. I own my own theme park. Jesus. His arms, by the way. Arms out. Arms are out. I own my own theme park. arms by the way arms out arms are out
Starting point is 01:01:06 you look so strong very strong do I look strong you look very strong come on I think Matt's been working out your arms look very strong when your arms
Starting point is 01:01:14 when the arms come out when the arms come out wow that's so huge when the arms come out that's huge for me someone struggling physically in the gay community oh my god
Starting point is 01:01:22 okay well you know you have your own theme park I have my own theme park. But. But. It's somewhere where I can work. It's in LA.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's outside of LA. In fact, it's in Bakersfield. Bakersfield. Okay. I don't know Bakersfield though.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I haven't thought about this enough. You know what? Let's just go for it. I have my own island, right? Yeah. The theme park's on the island. The industry comes to me. It's a huge film studio.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It rivals Disney and Universal. So what we're doing is we're having Rogers. It's called Rogers Land. We've talked about this on the pod. Here are some rides that are included in Rogers Land. Leah Remini's Escape from Scientology the Ride. Yeah. Starring Leah Remini.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Leah Remini is an animatronic. J-Lo rides the car. J-Lo drives the car. And you ride in it. There's a theme park called the Matt and Bowen Experience. I mean, there's a roller coaster called the Matt and Bowen Experience.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's a dueling coaster. There's many ups and downs. Ultimately, you end up together. Oh. Right parked in the station. Oh. Two best friend coasters. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:23 There is a drop tower called the gay experience. It shoots up and down and to and fro actually. Oh, like a Wonka Vader. Yes. Up, down, sideways, square, right? There's a haunted house
Starting point is 01:02:36 themed to Big Little Lies. Wonka. A Wonka. Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka. That feels like something that like Mickey, does Mickey Minaj
Starting point is 01:02:43 ever talk about? Willy Wonka. I know she's shown. Willy Wonka. Camera Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka. That feels like something that like Mickey, does Mickey Minaj ever talk about? Willy Wonka? I know she shouldn't. Camera Willy Wonka. Yeah. Yes, she's done that. Sri Lanka. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Sri Lanka. But it should be Willy Wonka. We're the bad bitch that came from Sri Lanka. We're the bad bitch that came from Willy Wonka. Where is the Willy Wonka rap community? Trapped inside. I'll tell you where they are. They're trapped inside Wonka rap community trapped inside I'll tell you where they are they're trapped inside
Starting point is 01:03:07 Wonka Tower because they're the oompa loompas they're in the chocolate river yes drowning they're going up the tube and they feel disgust on their way to
Starting point is 01:03:14 what was the where do they send him to the furnace or whatever what a terrifying fucking movie terrifying movie he killed his children
Starting point is 01:03:21 I was just talking about this with someone I feel like it's given enough clues that they're like, oh, she got sent to the furnace. But sometimes they don't do the furnace on this day if you get there fast enough. Where it's like, they're not telling you they died.
Starting point is 01:03:35 They're giving you enough out. Oh, really? It's a horrifying movie. But they did. The way they leave it is like like the one kid is shrunk the other kid is a giant ball he might as well be dead yeah
Starting point is 01:03:48 the one kid's a giant ball the one girl is but she gets juiced yeah she gets juiced right the one girl just straight up plummets down a furnace
Starting point is 01:03:56 yes to the furnace and the other one is like drowns Augustus Clue Augustus drowns drowns in the chocolate river no no no he got sent to the marshmallow room or something.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And they turned him into a marshmallow. But then they're like, maybe not. The fact is. The whole thing is they just run away with the mom and they're like, let's go check. Yeah. You weren't sure it's fine. Yeah, it's probably fine. It's behind their shoulder.
Starting point is 01:04:16 No, it's not. Physiological trauma. You're changing the matter. I thought you were going to say fizzy lifting drinks. Fizzy lifting. Fizzy lifting trauma. Fizzy lifting trauma. And that is inherited. And that is inherited. Trauma that is inherited. That is actually inherited. Busy lifting trauma. And that is inherited.
Starting point is 01:04:25 And that is inherited. Trauma that is inherited. That is actually inherited. Wait, okay, wait. Keep doing this. Okay, the rides. Oh, no, no, no, no. The blue sky, blue sky.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And that's, you know, you know my deal. So that's my deal. Well, I think there should be a three busy Debras coaster. Okay. Three busy Debras. Three busy Debras. And honestly. Three tracks.
Starting point is 01:04:44 It never comes down It only goes up Oh Because it's the rise But it takes a couple years Where you don't hear from them Like it kind of goes up And you don't hear from them
Starting point is 01:04:54 For like a while And you're like Wasn't that a ride And then it comes down And you're like Oh yeah It's a ride The biggest ride of all
Starting point is 01:05:00 I feel like everyone Is always just like What happened Yeah what happened I Yeah, what happened? I'm like, we're working. What happened to that? We're writing a show. It's like, we're writing.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah. We're writing. We're writing. That's what's happening. Okay, development is hard. Yeah. All right? It's not just all roses.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Sorry, I'm in, like, development hell. People love to be in development hell. Oh, it's one of my favorite places to be. Yeah. That and Orlando. If I'm not in development hell, I'm in Orlando. Yeah. That's beautiful. Can I'm not in our development hell, I'm in Orlando. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:25 That's beautiful. Do you guys have this? I think I have a quick. It's a lot of pressure. Schematic version is. Give it. Give it. It's a Natalie Portman lifestyle where I'm married to like basically like a ballerino
Starting point is 01:05:39 and I live in Paris. Wow. I see that. I see that for you. And then I decide to poke my head back in the industry, the comedy industry. Are you a comedian at this point? I'm a comedian at this point. Or have you transcended?
Starting point is 01:05:52 I think I'm a comedian still. But all my references are very disgusting European. Oh, like a David Sedaris type. Exactly. Like where it's like, I'm funny, but I live in like the hills of France. Okay. Thank you so much. Because at first I was like, I guess it's Natalie Portman. No, it's like i'm funny but i live in like the hills of france okay that i thank you so much because at first i was like i guess it's natalie portman no it's date it's david sedaris
Starting point is 01:06:08 yeah and maybe i do just maybe i do just do like one one stage one live show every two years and then i just write books maybe wow basically sedaris type essays and memoirish essays. I should say, I love that for you. Yes, and? Okay. I should just clarify that my theme park is hilarious. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Everything about it is so funny. The games are so clear. Okay. Okay. Yeah. They have set up punchline. Set up punchline. That's really,
Starting point is 01:06:39 in fact, broad. You can't even get in if you're not funny. You have to pass UCB 401. You have to pass UCB 401. You have to pass UCB 401 in order to get in, actually. Absolutely. And actually, the tickets are really expensive.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Yeah. And pitch three sketch premises. You have to pitch three desk pieces and write in 50 monologue jokes. You have to pitch three desk pieces. In order to get a ticket at my park. Ew, what is this noise? And you have to do a desk pieces. And I've got to check it out at my park. Ew, what is this noise?
Starting point is 01:07:07 And you have to do a bit with the person at the gate. Oh, God. They're like, we got to keep running in. We got to stop running into each other like this. And you have to do a five to seven minute set in which you do 15 different characters. All racially problematic. All racially problematic. Which is great.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Black out between each. Yes. That's it. Sandy okay i feel like see i feel like mine would sort of be in an amy sedaris sort of world oh yeah i feel like i would live here yeah i would live new york yep i would have a a place where i had a okay okay this is dream dream dream no yeah please floors yeah in which No, yeah, please. Floors. Yeah. In which we have a photo studio in the home. Yes. We have an area where I can do my aerial silks because I'm addicted to the stuff. Addicted to the stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I'm addicted to climbing up the curtain. All right. And we'd have, you know, we just have it all in the home. Never leave. Yeah, no. Occasionally go to the bodega and be like, I'll have a Diet Coke and Goldfish. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And also 14-year-olds run that bodega. Yes. With the messy buns. And they will still intimidate me. Yes. Truly, the girls on Fire Island are the most, because I just was like, I'm not blonde. They all were. They were all blonde they were all like thin
Starting point is 01:08:27 they were thin and their hair was thick and blonde athletic soccer girls and they could just throw it up there yeah these were all my girlfriends in high school tie dye sweatshirt little shorts oh those slides the Nike slides but with socks and then like they're just like
Starting point is 01:08:44 yeah you wanna get pizza? What's your name? Emily. Emily. Sam. Tara. Tara. Tara, Sarah.
Starting point is 01:08:54 That was the big adjustment. It was coming from Connecticut to Long Island. I remember I had a friend named Tara, and I would call her Tara. And my mom was like, they pronounce it Tara. We're going into a new culture. And I would call her Tara. And my mom was like, they pronounce it Tara. Oh my God. We're going into a new culture. Truly shout out to all my friends from high school who did this job. They pronounce it Tara.
Starting point is 01:09:14 As if you're going into a foreign country. It's a rule of culture number 66. They pronounce it Tara. If you want to hear a very Jew-y thing my grandpa once said. Please. Because he's from Brooklyn and he asked my brother where he lives and he said he lives on Myrtle and Nostrand
Starting point is 01:09:30 and my grandpa was like you're pronouncing it wrong it's pronounced Moidal it's Moidal and Sandy's fanning her hands out Moidal it's pronounced Moidal oh wait there was something that I was going to say when we were talking about Fiddler when so you were asking about the translation there was something that I was going to say when we were talking about Fiddler. So you were asking about the translation.
Starting point is 01:09:47 There was one thing that was very odd because, so there's that song where Tevye is singing Tehava, you know, and the lyrics are little bird, little Havala, of course. And so the word for little bird is Fagala, which is also the way you say a faggot yeah so it was just like this whole song of being like little Fagola and I just was sitting there being like oh my is Fagola Yiddish for gay
Starting point is 01:10:15 too or no? Yes it's like it's Darag it's Darag filed under Darag D under Darag and it was just like a full number of little Fagola and I just was like
Starting point is 01:10:29 oh my god my brother the like old man timbre you just gave your voice little Fagola Jake and I were like grabbing each other
Starting point is 01:10:37 Jake's my brother you know for the fans for the fans Jake we love Jake that's very funny and and honestly speaking of funny oh what nothing please speaking of funny I was gonna transition us the bands. Jake, we love Jake. That's very funny. And honestly...
Starting point is 01:10:46 Oh. What? Nothing, please. I was going to transition us into more hijinks. Oh, hijinks? It's time for I Don't Think So Honey. And I Don't Think So Honey is actually our one minute segment where we take something in culture that doesn't sit well with us and we have one minute to
Starting point is 01:11:01 rant on it. Okay. And here's the thing. I went ahead and got something it's a pre-select it's a pre-select you might even say it's a pre-select this is matt rogers's i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey easter it's fucking weird first of all he rose yeah i don't think so honey y'all look the same y'all had long hair and i'm assuming abs at the time. He died ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Sorry, Christians.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Okay, also, I don't think so, honey. The whole Easter bunny of it all. What? It's a large rodent? No. Why are we allowing this to be? Listen, if I see a rodent, it's going to get exterminated. Hand me.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I don't think so, honey. 30 seconds. It hides eggs on kids. That's frustrating. I don't think so, honey. It hides eggs on kids. That's frustrating. I don't want to look for shit. I want to know where things are. Also, what's in the eggs? Coins? They should all be taken out as units of currency.
Starting point is 01:11:56 It's about dollars, honey. That's actually a rule of culture. Here's the thing about Easter. What are we eating? Ham? Truly non-specific at least we know on Thanksgiving we're getting a specific feast which is a turkey feast honestly
Starting point is 01:12:12 Easter you have nothing more like Yeaster no one likes you bitch that's one thing Yeaster and of course no one likes you bitch it's actually rule of culture number 46 Easter more like Yeaster no one likes you bitch more like Yeaster day no one likes you, bitch. It's actually Rural Culture number 46, Easter. More like Yeaster. No one likes you, bitch.
Starting point is 01:12:26 More like Yeasterday. No one likes you, bitch. More like Yeasterday. So I just took that and sort of picked it. So Yeasterday, so Yeasterday. I like a bird that's already flown away. Honestly, that worked. I love being mad about ham because it's nonspecific.
Starting point is 01:12:46 It's n-specific. Easter is that holiday where my parents are always like, happy Easter. And I'm like, oh, I forget that people care. You know what I mean? It's that one holiday. It's when Jesus came back. It's when he made his big return three days later. When he dropped his EP.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah, it's when he said, just kidding, bitch, the bitch is back. And he came back for a little, like, truly five seconds and then rose up.
Starting point is 01:13:12 That's the thing that always gets me is that he showed up and then he left. Yeah, well. Where'd he go? To heaven.
Starting point is 01:13:17 It was literally. Wait, what? Yeah. So he's resurrected and everyone fucking loses their minds and then he immediately
Starting point is 01:13:24 pieces and leaves. Wait, I thought he, he like came back and did more good stuff no no it was literally he comes back and forgives he comes back and he's like hi and then he does he get killed no so he gets he famously was crucified and then three days later he rose again and basically what he does when he's risen is he says to everyone in being risen like i was real and your belief in me was not in vain and i forgive you for allowing me to die and i and i forgive you and the theme of of of my existence is you know forgiveness and etc and then he rises and he goes back to and he's like i am i am. I am the son of God. And bye. And then he goes to heaven. And that actually has absolutely nothing to do with Easter eggs.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Where do the eggs come in? Birth. I mean, it's like, you know. Oh, is that it? I think that's what it is. So what does the rabbit have to do with eggs? What's the rabbit? Do rabbits lay eggs? I think the rabbit thing is actually it's like, I think it's, I think the rabbit thing is actually like a fusion
Starting point is 01:14:25 of pagan imagery. Rabbits should lay eggs. Because like hardcore Christian people hate Easter, hate Easter activities. Like they hate the rabbit, they hate the eggs.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Yeah. So like that's, the rabbit stuff is like pagan imagery mixed with like Christian imagery. That's what it is. Well, and with that,
Starting point is 01:14:40 we have Bowen Yangs I don't think so honey. And his time, it starts now. I don't think so honey responding to my DMs with emojis. Don't dismiss me bitch. I don't think so, honey. And his time, it starts now. I don't think so, honey, responding to my DMs with emojis. Don't dismiss me, bitch. I want to keep talking to you. You're going to end the conversation.
Starting point is 01:14:50 You can just end the conversation on a word, honey. Truly. Try it out, bitch. Because you're rotting your brain by tapping back a fucking heart eyes emoji at me, and I don't know what that means. Do you want to have sex with me or not? This is targeted. So unlike want to have sex with me or not? This is,
Starting point is 01:15:05 this is not targeted. So unlike you to bail only halfway in. So I'm realizing this is not exclusive to sexual DMS. It's also exclusive. It was inclusive of all types of DMS. Emojis are dismissive. And I think we should all clock that and say, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:21 don't, don't push me away. I respect your boundaries, but you can tell me that with words and not with imagery and glyphs invented by Japanese people that you are now. 15 seconds. You are now not appropriating. You are misappropriating.
Starting point is 01:15:35 It's misappropriate, honey. I don't know what that means, but I stand by it. There's time left. Five seconds. And look, emojis should only be used for tweets and texts. That's one minute. Not DMs. How do you respond if a random person responds to your story?
Starting point is 01:15:52 That's what I'm saying. You don't respond. You do respond. See, I feel bad if I don't respond. Of course you do because it's rude. I send the heart. You double tap or you send heart emoji? I send heart.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Double tap. Double tap. Or I say ha ha. Or I say, you know, like, yay. If I double tap the message, I love that. That's perfect. If someone double taps my message, I'm like, great. They don't want this to dip into a full conversation.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I can respect that. But the emojis are this weird liminal space where you are telling me you have a boundary. You don't want to keep going with words. I don't know that that's true. I think that's kind of the implicit understanding. See, I think it's interesting because it always has to end
Starting point is 01:16:31 at some point. Yes, it does. It 100% does. But you can be like, I miss the days when you'd be like, TTYL. I talked about this
Starting point is 01:16:40 on Seek Treatment, because I talked a lot about sweeping the scene in improv. I would say sending an emoji is sweeping the scene in improv but I would say sending an emoji is sweeping the scene. It is.
Starting point is 01:16:47 That's okay. Fine. All right. Well, maybe you just have to deal with the fact that I'm also the one. Sometimes people just are done talking to you.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yeah, I'm an improv expert. Sandy Ho. Yes, Sandy. That's my web series. Yes, Sandy. Look it up on Seesuit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:03 So who's about to do one? I can't remember if I did this on a live show or not. Doesn't matter. I guess we're going to see. Improv queen, Sandy Honig. Oh, yeah, really good at improv. Here we go. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Squatty potties. Oh! Okay. Have the decency. If I am coming over to your house and your squatty potty is still in the bathroom,
Starting point is 01:17:26 I don't think so, honey. I don't want to see a white plastic geriatric thing in your bathroom that is covered in your piss pubes. And it is like especially in a male household or, you know, I don't want to say male because that is, you know, that is trans exclusive. But, you know, if you were at home with dicks and you are pissing in a toilet and you have a squatty potty, you gotta put it away when you have guests. I do not want to step on your piss. Also, what are you, a baby? What are you, a baby and you're geriatric?
Starting point is 01:17:56 What, you can't shit? Have a probiotic. Eat a bean. I'm sorry. What do you need to put your ears, your legs by your ears for? I don't think so, honey. The squatty potty needs to go. Eat a bean. I'm sorry. What do you need to put your ears, your legs by your ears for? Okay. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:18:08 The squatty potty needs to go, put it in a closet, put it away. And that's what I'm unclear. Cause okay. I am with you on, they shouldn't be displayed as prominently and probably cause I don't necessarily, when I'm in the bathroom,
Starting point is 01:18:21 I want to forget that anyone else has ever. This is exactly what I say. I picture the person squatting over the toilet every time if I see a squatty potty in your house I'm going to picture you
Starting point is 01:18:32 taking a shit with your knees by your ears and I don't want that image and I don't want to see it and I will say though recently I went to a house
Starting point is 01:18:41 and this guy had a wooden squatty potty. And that was elegant. Yeah, that honestly constructed. Because there's no dumb little grooves where piss and shit gets caught. But why would it be white? I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:18:55 That is odd. Design flaw. Why would it be white? That is a design flaw. You can see everything. I guess because most bathrooms have like prominently white, like a coloring scheme. Which is also wrong. Toilets should be brown.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Toilets should be brown and yellow. You know what? Yeah, because that would solve a lot of issues. I used to have a like black toilet. Those are so sleek. But you could still see the poop clinging to the bowl. I love a black toilet. Anytime I'm like, it's like it's sexual. I agree. I love a black toilet. Anytime I'm like, it's like,
Starting point is 01:19:26 it's, it's sexual. I agree. I want a gray one. Can you get a gray toilet? I want a gray toilet. I want a pink toilet. Get this.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Have you ever shit on a toilet with a fuzzy seat? Like with like a, like a, like a, like a, I hate it. It's crazy when you think about it, because if poop gets in that like mattress seat cover it's not coming
Starting point is 01:19:46 out well the other thing is how many times have you been in a bathroom and there's a little tinkle on the seat and then i hate that and then you think okay so this is just in there just yeah i also feel like if you leave the bathroom and it's not spotless that's bad it you need to take toilet paper and wipe the seat yes oh wipe the seat and true and also i'm sorry i know we're all trying to save water but i flush your piss i don't want to see piss in the toilet that's how that's who i am well it starts to stink it starts to yes and also it stains the bowl and also it stains it stinks it. It's called the courtesy flush, people, too, with poop. Courtesy flush. Because sometimes not one flush is enough.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I know. You know what? What? I moved into an apartment three years ago. I have never once clogged this toilet. Good for you. No, it's a good bowl. It's a good bowl.
Starting point is 01:20:37 It's a good bowl. No, it's always about the bowl. What's the color? White. It's white, but I got a pink seat for it. Gorge. Gorgeous. And you know what else was gorge?
Starting point is 01:20:47 This entire fucking episode. This entire episode. What a fun time. I had fun. This was, please, to know that we can connect over Parrothead culture. It's huge. I really don't know anyone else that has. This is historic.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah. It's huge. To know that his book is truly sitting right there. And I clapped that before and I was like, oh my God. And then when you said that, no, I don't own own the book i've never read any of his books i didn't i didn't know about the books you didn't know that he was also writing books i did not know about the books is a man who looks at 40 is that in a novel a man looks a pirate looks at 40 a pirate looks sorry i'm sorry so it is a song as well oh it is i hope he writes i could write a
Starting point is 01:21:23 novel based on every one of his songs they're so deep oh they go hard they all tell a story they all tell and some of them are funny too yeah i mean why don't we get drunk he's got jokes you know what makes me laugh there's one i don't remember it's like called the weather is here i wish you were beautiful the weather is here i wish you were beautiful yeah oh my god yes what a beautiful beautiful you know what oh it's a really quick good one I wish you were beautiful I'm so easy to see Oh my god What a beautiful beautiful
Starting point is 01:21:48 You know what was a really quick good one? Fruitcakes Fruitcakes is good Fruitcakes is funny Fruitcakes is about everyone's crazy It's a comedy song It's a comedy song The thing about Jimmy Buffett is that he Toed the line between comedy musician
Starting point is 01:22:03 And Ernest Rocker, I guess. You could say he's a singing comedian. He's a singing comedian. He's like a weirdo. Just. Oh, my God. This is insane.
Starting point is 01:22:12 No. Crazy statement. Wrong. No, I'm just saying it's so funny to refer to him as a singing comedian. But kind of isn't that weird? It's the ultimate character. It's the ultimate character. Yes. Yes. He is going to, on his last day of his character. It's the ultimate character, bitch.
Starting point is 01:22:25 He is gonna, on his last day of his life, he's gonna say, fucking, you all bought, because the fact that we've all bought it is so funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:32 God. It's Andy Kaufman shit. I was just gonna say, he's gonna go, I'm Andy Kaufman, bitch. He's the front runner this year for the Andy Kaufman rap. He is.
Starting point is 01:22:41 He actually, I heard he's gonna get JFL. He's gonna get JFL yeah he's gonna get JFL unwrapped JFL unwrapped of course he actually doesn't have a comedy rap
Starting point is 01:22:48 and that's sad for him seeking rap seeking rap this is thank you so much for being on our show thank you for having me this was so fun
Starting point is 01:22:54 this was the most fun and you know what we end every we end every episode with a song I think we all know what that song's gonna be cheeseburger in paradise the song. I think we all know what that song is going to be.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Cheeseburger in paradise. Not too particular, not too precise. I'm just a cheeseburger in paradise. Wow. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production.
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