Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "PARROTHEADS" (w/ Sandy Honig)
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Forever!
Dog!
Look, Matt.
Where?
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture?
Yes. Oh, my goodness.
Oh, yeah.
Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas.
Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
Look at us tenors.
Tenor two.
You shut up.
I can't do tenor one notes, honey.
I think you have the vocal power that no one understands.
Like who?
Like whom do I have the vocal power?
Freddie Mercury himself.
I believe that you possess the vocals of the legend known as Freddie Mercury.
You lie.
You have such a high voice.
But you know, I don't have my, going from voice to falsetto, insane mass.
You mean going from like chest to falsetto?
What do you mean?
What are you saying?
Chest to head is female specific.
Okay, bitch.
So women don't have falsettos.
They have head voice
and chest voice.
I know that.
This is all for the listeners
because I know that.
Yeah, sure.
Of course I know that.
And then for men,
it's, oh,
I don't know what
the chest voice equivalent is.
It might just be chest voice.
Belimassio.
Belimassio.
Belimassio.
Belimassio falsetto.
Nope.
Not real.
Belimassio falsetto
apparicio. Oh. Yalitio Falsetto Aparicio.
Oh.
Yalitza Aparicio.
Aparicio.
Yes, that's what they call it when you sing it from the stomach.
They call it Yalitza.
Yalitza Aparicio.
And actually, Yalitza was named after the men's stomach voice.
Yes.
God bless her.
I think, you know what?
I was bucketed as a bass in high school.
How dare they?
Was that because you were doing Masked Dragon talking like this, dude?
No, I really wasn't.
I was fully, I was fully up, up, up.
And they made you sing bass?
And some fucking dude.
What was his name?
Say it.
Well, my choir teacher's name was Michael Grant, and he's wonderful.
But there was this guy.
Grin or Gwin?
Grant.
Mike Grant.
I'm sorry.
Neither of the ones I said.
But there was this other man named Rob.
His literal name was Rob Lowe.
And he was this, oh, my God.
He was just like textbook.
I have a crush on that.
No?
I have a crush on that.
And I don't mean to shame him on his looks.
But he actually, well, actually, I do mean to shame him on his looks because he sucked.
Oh, wow.
Of course.
If you suck, you should be shamed.
Absolutely.
And so he was just like this hippie in his 60s who was mean and rude.
Wow.
And he one time.
A hippie in his 60s who was mean and rude?
And he, so he would sometimes, he would be the accompanist for the musicals.
And then one day the stage lights were on,
we were doing a tech week,
and the lights were on,
and he just had done something the night before,
clearly, had been on some drug,
was hungover.
And he just, we're in the middle of like,
warmups and scales,
and then he just turns to the tech booth and stops,
and he goes,
can someone turn these goddamn lights down so he was a shitty person that's such abuse such abuse that is such abuse but like theater space anyway so he so he's doing scales and i guess in the
placement exam of choir he like i couldn't hit a D the third C or some shit
I mean he's horrible at his job if he's calling you a bass
because honey tenor
tenor one
what do they call a super high tenor
counter tenor
and what are you
bitch should we find out right now
ha
ha
okay so that's famously your voice and we said we were finding out what my thing is
really quickly it's unfortunate that there's a razor on the pod fortunate that there's a
razor on the pod get you go come on go scale up to the highest note I have the results.
I have the results.
I have the results.
I have the results.
What's the result?
Nat Rogers.
Is a countertenor contralto. Oh
my God. I can't believe I'm a countertenor contralto.
To be here feels amazing. I join
the likes of
Freddie Mercury and
Ricky Martin.
Ricky Martin. She bangs
more like she sings well.
Listen, talk about
people that do things well. Oh, talk about
multi-talented. I would describe this
person's performance capabilities
as volcanic. Volcanic.
I would say that watching this person perform
is incredible. You know
why it's volcanic? What? She is
hot and gorgeous
and it creates
fertile ground for other things.
So, yes.
Volcanic ash.
Volcanic soil.
Can I say yes and?
And.
Yes and.
Yes and.
Improv?
Improv.
We love her.
I love her improv.
And.
Yes and.
We love her improv.
And she loves doing it all around town.
She's an improviser.
Well-known improviser to the stars.
Stop.
This sucks.
This sucks.
We're not fully straight on improv. No, it's amazing. Okay, no improviser, well-known improviser to the stars. This sucks. This sucks. No, it's amazing.
Wait, no.
Can I say this?
Let me say this. Give me the room. Give me the space.
This will be
forever the episode where you sang instead of me.
You really, truly took that from me.
You would go.
There was a hot moment in time
where I was obsessed
in a new way
with this performer because i'd always been a fan and then i went to the bongo hour oh do you know
the bongo hour i i'm a fan of the bongo hour i live for the bongo i love the bongo the bongo
hour is peter smith sandy honig ben moss and ben moss and i had been going to bongo hour
consecutively because i was so obsessed
because i felt that it was unlike any other variety show i agree and the performances that
sandy would do i was like i'm sorry i i was i was going with dave a lot and i was like that is a
fucking star that's a star true star well you did you but you didn't think this no i always thought
this but then i was like oh it's on the next level.
It's like that thing where it's like, you always knew the person was good, but you didn't know they were like, what the fuck?
But the moment though was Carnegie Hall.
I love the Carnegie Hall.
We got to talk about, because Carnegie Hall, I think.
Three busy Debras at Carnegie Hall.
Hello, if you've been living under a rock.
This sounds so fucking gross of me to say.
I haven't even heard it yet, but I believe it's going to be gross.
We will be talking about that Carnegie Hall show
for years to come.
For years to come.
I think we, no, truly I think we will.
I mean, it was an iconic moment.
Gorgeous, iconic moment in the community.
In the community, which it is.
Which is, which is tight.
Everyone is best friends.
Everyone is best friends.
In this community,
I actually don't have a non-best friend.
I don't have any enemies. Let me think. One, two, three, four. Nope, they're all my best friends. But best friends In this community I actually don't have A non best friend I don't have any enemies
Let me think
One two three four
Nope they're all my best friends
But truly it was
A gorgeous night
Never talked a word of shit
About anyone
Now she hosts Pig
Free show every Tuesday
At the Slipper Room
Can you believe free
Free
Maybe you didn't hear free
I said free
I think they heard
A lot of people think
Nothing's
Well nothing's free
Nothing's free
A lot of people will say that
There's no
There's no free lunch
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Well, bitch, this is free.
She hosts it with Peter Smith.
The Peter Smith.
Also, incredible photographer.
I mean, yeah.
Ricky Magdays.
Ooh, I loved her stuff back in Ricky Magdays.
Multi-talented.
I would call this person, and stay with me here, a multi-hyphenate.
A multi-hyphenate. A multi-hyphenate.
And she's exhausting.
And she's exhausting.
No, and also one of the hosts and panelists of Vice Live.
Yeah.
And we will get into it, hon.
Rest in peace, Vice Live.
R.I.P. Vice Live.
She actually has an amazing-
We love you.
She got to have a view moment where she was like, we'll talk about this.
We gotta talk about it.
I gotta-
That to me is iconic.
That's iconic.
Anytime you get to announce you're leaving
something
you made it
on TV
on television
that's my dream
medium
it is my dream
to be like
it's my last day
it's my dream
to be like
it's my dream
to be like
after a lot of thought
and prayer
and counsel
from God
I've decided that
I'm leaving The View
and everyone goes
aww
yeah
not even like
what
it's just like
aww
cause it's understood that if you're on the view, you will leave the view.
Yes.
Anyway.
Anyway.
What can we say?
What can we say?
Please welcome into your ears.
Sandy Honig!
Wow, that was the greatest introduction I've ever gotten in my life.
I could have just, I'll just sit there and just let you guys.
No, no way.
You're in this now.
Here's the thing.
You are deserving of the intro.
Yes.
It's too kind.
It's not.
We've loved you for literal years.
I think, what have we known each other for?
Nine years? Nine. In some capacity?
It might be. I've lived in New York for
eight years. Oh, so I
can't believe I've known you since before that because I'm right.
Yeah. No, I mean.
No, I met you. No, wait. You actually
might be right because I came to visit
my brother at NYU
and he brought me. I didn't go to a Hammercats show
but I went to a
Hammercats party that was after
a show and I remember him
I remember meeting Sudi and I think I
met you as well. Sudi and I were
very much inseparable
so that probably was true.
I was around
we talked about this today I was always
at the shows and at the parties because I was like the number one fan.
Bowen was always, Bowen would always come to the sketch shows.
I would always go to the improv shows.
Can I say something?
It was very insular, that little bubble.
Can I say, I'm going to fucking say something crazy.
Oh, I can't wait.
But Hammercats and Dangerbox.
Dangerbox was the improv group.
Hammercats was the sketch group at the time.
Those were the two groups.
And there was tension my freshman year between the groups.
I love, for whatever reason,
I was in Dangerbox. He was the improv boy.
Yes, and. Yes, and.
Improv all around town.
And then I would, and then
I credit myself
and Nicole and like the generation
that came up and like Sudi and Allison and you
like our little coterie.
We fucking started to rebuild
the bridges you reached across the aisle you had an eve pizer barry weiss moment oh my god
she came in here and said she had no cultural references she sits her ass down and she said
by the way i have no cultural references meanwhile we're fucking talking about college
improv and she says the words barry weiss and Eve Pizer and you guys reached across the aisle you wrote an
op-ed about it
we're actually friends because we talk
to each other on the internet
shut the fuck up both of you
I don't know you that well
Eve did write on the Vice show
she's nice
she is very nice it just was a very funny
moment to like read this article
which was like can you believe two rich New York liberal Jews could be friends?
And I was like, yeah, that is crazy.
Yeah, that's wild.
Groundbreaking even.
The like socialist versus like centrist, but you're still liberal and you agree, but it's like, like okay we couldn't be more different
and like the centrist
straight to serious honestly the centrist one
is gay and it's like
whatever but she's Bill Mars
you know
she's just always like on the show
being like the Me Too movement has gone too far
yeah it really has
do I feel that's her genuine belief
you know what but the Me Too movement
has gone too far
Sandy no
now Sandy
oh no
here she goes
it's gone too far
and Sandy is
guess what
liberal
Jewish
that's it
you pointed to the third finger
and had nothing
I had nothing to say
that's beyond that
that's how he
that's how he sees Sandy
what more is there
hey when I hear how Jewish I am
I literally
just came here
on the subway
from Fiddler on the Roof
in Yiddish
full Yiddish
in full Yiddish
in full Yiddish
but Jake was telling me
the subtitles were on the screen
yes subtitles on the screen
but I didn't need them
but your aunt is there
I don't speak Yiddish
but I've seen the play
so many times
and I get the little
I get the little words
you know I get little ones coming in
I get little words the weirdest one was
there's a song
in the have you seen
I have it's been a long time
since I've seen Fiddler but I saw a high school
production of it oh I bet that was good
you know what how was the Firmacera
Firmacera
was over the top which I think
was perfect.
And quickly, I will say my favorite Frumicera story is Amanda Schachtman was... What's the wife's name?
Oh, I don't know.
Golda.
Golda.
So she was Golda.
Is Golda.
There's a scene where Golda is singing and in the back, Frumicera is doing something.
And in this production, Frumicera was on a high ladder.
Yeah.
She's always got to be tall. She's always gotta be tall.
She's gotta be tall
so she was on a very high ladder
and the ladder
fell over
and Frumicera
came plummeting to the ground
and Amanda Escalda
just kept going.
She was Frumicera.
No, no, no.
She was Golda
and behind her
Frumicera had plummeted
because it was
a high school production
which didn't make it safe
for the kids.
Why would she be on a ladder?
That seems really ill-advised. To have like a costume that covers a ladder so if the ladder didn't make it safe for the kids. Why would she be on the ladder? That seems really ill-advised.
To have a costume that covers a ladder, so if the ladder falls, you're just trapped on the ladder.
Actually, one second.
One second.
Junior year of high school, Miss Lisa Wood did a production of-
You are naming names today.
Of Barnum.
No, she actually scarred me creatively, and I truly resent her to this day, and I don't care if she listens.
She decided it was
a good idea.
It was Barnum.
It was circus themed.
It was basically
The Greatest Showman
but bad.
Wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Back up.
You just said
it's like if The Greatest
Showman was bad.
No stop.
I'm going to stick up
for The Greatest Showman.
Actually, there's like
a legion of people out there
who fucking love that movie.
Okay.
I mean, it's just like crazy.
I didn't, like before watching it, I didn't know that like I could be me.
Yeah, right.
And it took someone to say, this is me.
This is me.
The sharpest words.
This is me.
But the thing is though, I had been looking for a way to say this is me.
And then it really gave me the vocabulary.
Yeah.
And when the sharpest words
try to cut me down,
I'm going to send the flood.
I'm going to drown them out. This is bold.
This is brave. This is who I'm meant to be.
This is bold. This is brave. This is Maybelline.
And honestly,
the whole thing was a fragrance commercial.
It was. And I love any movie
that's a fragrance commercial. I'm sorry.
I love when...
Okay, so let's go.
We're keeping going Jew.
At the Seder last night.
Keep it going Jew.
My great aunt was talking about, she kept like accidentally doing commercials.
She was talking about, because her last name was Honig.
It's not anymore, but you know, before she got married.
And she said that she only drives Hondas.
She'll never stray from the Honda because she goes,
when I get behind the wheel and I see that H,
I just feel great.
I love the way it looks.
I love looking at the H.
I just feel great.
And I was like,
we should just film this
and send it to Honda.
I just feel great.
I look at that H
and I feel amazing.
Yeah.
No, she's speaking to everyone there.
Oh my God.
Why?
And that's the thing is it's like, why?
Actors with commercial auditioning, it's like none of us can do this as good as real people.
You want us to be real people anyway, so get one.
I know so many people who could make a killing in commercial auditioning and they don't even
know it.
They don't even know it.
Charismatic people who actually have real skills outside of performance, who are out there. Who are compelling to listen to. They could make a killing in commercials and they don't even know it. Charismatic people who actually have real skills outside of performance, who are out
there, who are compelling to listen to.
They could make a killing in commercials and they don't know.
They don't know. Sorry, I interrupted you.
The quick thing is,
there was one dance number she decides to have these ladders
where one
person would stand in the middle and be the hub basically
and spin a ladder around. Nope, it's already bad.
The others, and then we would have to jump up
and down.
And literally,
like I fell on one of the ladders as it was coming to me
and like I injured myself.
And then the woman
fucking kicks me out of the show
because I didn't give a shit.
And I was just like,
I don't like being here.
And she actually like,
whatever.
She is bad.
We've told this story
and you've gone into great detail
and she was in the wrong
as the adult in the room.
And guess what?
If you are an adult
with a high school student you are wrong
I had a feud with my high school drama
teacher and I wasn't even in any of the plays
he just hated me
and he would not cast me in any
of the plays that's so funny he just hated
me that's so funny when okay so just
and I will say again it's actually a rule of
culture number 14 if you are a high school
teacher in a feud with a student you are wrong's actually rule of culture number 14. If you are a high school teacher in a feud with a student, you are wrong.
It's rule of culture.
But looking back, can you see the other side?
Or are you like, no?
I truly, when I, I was not in any of the shows.
What did he have against me?
And I'm going to tell you what he had against me.
I didn't know what he had against me.
What?
It's because I was elected to the drama board without having been in any shows.
You were that powerful.
You.
Okay.
I just, they elected me to the board.
I don't remember what I did.
Elected you to the board.
I think to the board of the drama club.
And he was like the teacher in charge of it.
And he was so mad that I was on it without having been in any of the shows.
You didn't play ball.
I didn't play ball.
So then anytime I auditioned, he didn't give it to me.
Oh my God.
And that's politics.
He wouldn't let me in.
And I think he, well, there's a glimpse into the industry right there.
Yeah.
That's the industry.
The gatekeepers.
The gatekeepers.
Gatekeepers.
Get to know them.
Get to know them, honey.
Get to know the gatekeepers.
Get to know the gatekeepers.
They shape shift and you'll see them a million different times in a million different ways.
Yes.
But I got to say, if you're, if you have.
If you're the New York accent,
but you're just like...
But I gotta say,
let me just say,
if you're a high school teacher
and you have ladders in your fucking production,
you're busted.
You're busted.
I see you.
You're gonna kill those kids.
You're gonna kill those kids.
Those kids are gonna be dead
and the blood's gonna be on your hands.
And you're gonna say goodbye to Frima Sarah.
But say bye to Frima Sarah.
Frima Sarah.
More like Frima No Head.
Because she fell over, her fucking head came off. Yeah. Because her fucking ladder wasimma Sarah. Frimma Sarah. More like Frimma no head. Because she fell over
her fucking head came off.
Yeah.
Because her fucking ladder
was in the show.
This is just wrong speed.
No, it's original.
No, come on.
No, it's me
and how my family talks.
Actually, so this is actually
erasure.
Erasure.
This is erasure.
This is actually eraser.
Erase?
This is eraser.
This is eraser.
Yeah, this is eraser.er and this is a racer
this is a racer Sandy
talk about your final episode
at Vice Live
I also love that like it was accompanied by
a bang
I banged the table I said
so let me just
I'm sorry I can't stop because I like the way it's
reverb honestly it gives it a dramatic attention that I love.
I love any story of someone leaving a show publicly.
So please.
So for the fans, Vice Live was a weekly...
No, sorry.
Nightly live talk show.
Four nights a week.
When it first started, it was two hours long.
Four nights a week.
Psychotic. For three weeks, we did it two hours a week. When it first started, it was two hours long. Four nights a week. Psychotic.
For three weeks, we did it two hours a night.
And then they reduced it to an hour.
And then I think all together, we did seven weeks on the air before I left.
Yes.
And I had it in my contract that I could leave for another, for the Debra's show.
For Debra.
For the Busy Debra's.
For the Busy Debra's if the show got picked up and then they picked us up.
Great.
So, which I'm so excited about.
Which we love.
Which we love.
And well-deserved and iconic for the Busy Debra's.
Yes.
Thank you so much.
It will be absolutely stunning.
And so I was like, okay, I got to leave.
I got to go.
Got to go.
And it was very funny, actually, because the producer in i was like okay i gotta leave i gotta go gotta go and the it was very funny actually
the producer in charge was like so i think rather than having you have like a last episode where
it's like here your day here yeah here one day gone the next we're just gonna phase you out
which i was like okay sure it ended up actually being a lot more fun so for the whole last week
i was there i was just doing little bits.
And you brought Peter in for a cooking demo? Yeah.
So it was basically like I would just do bits like they would like as a runner, which ended
up being way more fun than just being on the couch and like talking about rappers I've
never heard of as though I knew who they were.
Because it got to a point where like, I was like, I'm not going to look these people up
because me reading one Wikipedia entry is not going to
replace an entire cultural knowledge of this
person so I'm just not so I was
just sitting there being like yeah it is crazy
that she said that
I was like yeah I know
isn't that it is like kind of insane but if you actually
really think about it this is Eraser
and they were like yeah
applause break applause break
standing ovation
the number of
applause breaks
I got talking about
things I had no idea
what I was talking about
was pretty incredible
was there a live audience
yeah there was a live audience
love that
live audience
so stressful
it was like
so then I was like
okay I'm gonna leave
had a whole last episode
where it was like
my goodbye episode
you know I did my little bits
where it was like
oh I was giving like
performance reviews to the other uh cast members ha ha ha um and then they
like played a little joke you know oh highlight reel and they were gonna play an actual highlight
reel from my time on the show from the seven weeks from the seven weeks we had been on the air they
had put together like a highlight reel and i was like forget i said please
please please please please do not do this to me do not put together a highlight reel of my seven
weeks on this show in which i did not do well like it's just it's just not a context in which i feel
like i thrive is like just just like riffing on culture you know yes yes yes yes it just is not what i am good at right right and so i just was
like please do not do this so i made them put together a like two second clip that was like
you know they put like oh sandy's highlights and it was just like what two second clip would be
like fumbling and then it was like and then goodbye goodbye goodbye this is on a thursday
on monday show canceled and And no more airing.
No more airing.
So that ended up being the last episode.
The last episode of the show was like,
and Sandy's leaving and it's so sad.
Also very funny because the audience,
they're not,
it's not like they watch the show every night.
They're just like random people
that came to the taping.
They pulled in.
So it's like they showed up
and the whole episode was like,
it's Sandy's goodbye episode and they had to go like
oh. And I was like you guys don't
know who I am. You don't
know what the show is. But
they had to be like oh and like give me
applause. Which was just
so funny. Insane. As if they like. Truly give you
an emotional send off. Yeah.
And then I yeah and then Monday show cancelled.
Like just from the
network and then like everyone on staff was like oh I guess we don't have a job anymore.
Yeah, it was very well.
No one actually told me from the show.
My friend Jack, you know, Jack Bensinger?
Yeah.
He moved here from Chicago pretty recently.
Very, very funny boy.
Very talented.
He was, I brought him into the show a while ago.
He got fired and rehired twice throughout the time on the show and then fired again.
Well-oiled machine.
Well-oiled machine.
And then after I left, they brought him back in.
So on Monday, he showed up for his third time working at this show and then texted me being like,
Hey, I'm like back at work, but they're having a giant meeting with everyone who works here.
And then five minutes later, he texted me being like, show's canceled.
Oh, my God.
No.
People don't know.
We have not figured out how to do those panel shows.
No.
It's not going to work.
It's a hard thing.
Also, every night is hard.
It's very hard.
Every night.
Two hours.
What was that like?
Well, first of all, walk us through the typical day in those first stages.
What time would you go in?
I got in around like two or three, depending on the day.
And then the show aired, when it was two hours, it aired at nine from nine to eleven.
And then when it was one hour from ten to eleven.
That's a long time.
It's a long time, a long day.
And then a long day to just like, I just, i don't know anything that we were talking about you would
look up like takashi yeah but da ba da you know it was a debbie matt novelist situation for all
my view has viewed people it really was just like i don't know why you hired me like i really i feel
like i showed up every day being like, I don't know what you thought.
I know that the reason that I got the show
was because when I was testing for it,
I talked about, the thing was like,
oh, well, what's a good gift you could get someone
after six weeks of dating?
And I was saying that a pack of batteries is a great gift.
Yeah, yeah.
And I was just, I just talked about batteries
for like five minutes.
Beautiful.
She can talk about anything. Yeah, and they were like, oh, she's so funny. And I was like, no was just, I just talked about batteries for like five minutes. Beautiful. She can talk about anything.
Yeah, and they were like,
oh, she's so funny.
And I was like,
no, you hired someone
who talked about batteries
for five minutes.
I was like,
I don't know anything
about pop culture.
I just know about batteries.
Oh my God.
It's incredible too
because you are so good
at so many things
and to get this one job
where they're like,
hi, all we're going to ask you
to do is the thing you can't do,
the one thing that you cannot do.
It really was just like,
I can't believe
this is the first TV thing that I cannot do. It really was just like I can't believe this is the first like
TV thing that I'm doing is something
that I feel like I am the worst
at. It's just like
it sucks to
feel like actively
feel like you're failing live on television
and it was a live show
which I thought would be very scary
and it actually wasn't that scary
but even but how do you reconcile that with you feeling kind of crazy about failing on TV?
It somehow felt more like, I actually felt like I played better on camera than I did in the room.
Oh.
Interesting.
I played a lot to the camera.
Well, that's good.
I played to the folks at home, a.k.a. my parents.
Did they watch every night?
Yes, my dad watched every night.
My mom would watch the next day.
Beautiful.
Honestly, yeah, that's a skill, though.
Like, you missed live performance
on Saturday Night Live.
Oh, great job.
You did so well.
You were so funny.
You didn't understand what was going on.
I was like, do I,
when do I talk? I truly had no idea what was going on. I was like, when do I talk?
I truly had no idea what was going on.
I don't remember any of that.
You were so funny.
Oh my God.
I was freaking out.
I flipped out.
You flipped out.
But I did feel like I went to TV grad school where it was like, I know when that red light
comes on.
It's on me.
I know which one to look at and I know how to do prompter and I know whatever.
There you go.
I think prompter is something
I can do but the red light thing and knowing
which camera, that would be hard for me because
color blindness.
Can't see them.
That's not a reason to not put me on live TV by the way
everyone listening. I can learn.
I can change my eyes. Can you see
or you can't tell if it's green or red?
It's a thing of like green and red
is actually very difficult for me.
Right.
Because it switches from green to red.
Yeah.
Is color weak?
Color weak?
I guess.
Oh, is that what it's called?
You're talking to a photographer.
Oh, is that color weak, red, green, color blindness?
I think so.
It's like red, green, color weak.
I didn't know there was like another term for it.
They've told me.
You also might be right.
I have no idea.
Listen.
Who am I but the daughter of two doctors? Of course. I didn't know there was like another term for it. They've told me. You also might be right. I have no idea. Listen. Who am I but the
daughter of two doctors? Of course.
I mean
merely the daughter of two PhDs.
It's like I can see
colors
but I can't tell them apart
often. It's like
if blue and purple are next to each other
that's a nightmare. Red and green.
Brown and green, forget about it.
Truly forget about brown and green.
But are those hard for you guys too?
Don't put you in a forest, honey.
Don't put me in a forest. Don't put me there.
Can't see the forest for the...
I keep snagging the table. I'm sorry.
Can't see nothing.
Can't see the forest for the trees.
My dad...
And that's not changing the expression.
No.
My dad, my one job when I was little, like my chore that I would have to do is I would have to go clean up the dog shit in the yard.
Oh, no.
And that was a fucking nightmare because I could never see the dog poop because it was famously brown.
How did you realize you were colorblind?
In third grade, they pulled me into the nurse's office just to do like a routine physical
and they do this thing where it's like i've told this on the bottom of the bunch of circles it's a
bunch of like little dots of different colors and you're supposed to see a number or like a pattern
you're supposed to identify it and they were like okay what number do you see in this thing and i
was like four and they were like it's a 22 and i was like oh okay and they're like okay so you're
like aggressively colorblind like this is what it. And now they have those glasses you can wear.
Then you see the color?
Or you can put on cocktail lenses and it will change it.
But I'm scared to do it.
Why?
Because I feel like it'll freak me the fuck out.
But wouldn't that be so cool?
Because I always try to imagine in your head a color that you've never seen before.
It's impossible to imagine.
That's fucking insane.
You've never looked through the glasses? I've never done that.
Oh my god, Matt, you have to do that. You have to make
one of those viral videos where it's like, puppy,
go outside for the first time.
Podcast host sees green.
Podcast host
sees green for the first time. You know what, Psycho?
I will walk around this town
saying green is my favorite color.
You're lying. I've never actually seen it. You're a liar, then. But my two favorite colors are blue and green, saying green is my favorite color. You're lying.
I've never actually seen it.
You're a liar then.
My two favorite colors are blue and green,
at least what my eyes see.
What color are your eyes?
I don't know.
My eyes are actually green.
And that's wherein the trouble lies.
I think they're green.
They are.
No, I can't really tell.
I often get blue,
but they're going to look green right now.
They're green.
They're green. They're green. They're green. They're green.
They're green.
They're green. They're green.
They're green.
My grandmother had green eyes.
Her Irish eyes.
So wait.
So to you, green looks brown?
Or you don't know?
If you put brown and green together, I can sort of tell you which one is brown and which
one is green, but it is laborious.
And it's like, is the green you see the green that I see?
Exactly.
And the answer is no.
And the answer is actually no. We know this. We know it's no. We know for a fact it is laborious. And it's like, is the green you see the green that I see? Exactly. And the answer is no. And the answer is actually no.
We know this.
We know it's no.
We know for a fact it is no
and it's going to be
one of those things
where it's like,
I don't know,
my doctor when I was little
was like,
if you were to switch eyes
with a normal person,
you would see something
fucked up to you.
Like if you were to look
at the world through my eyes,
you'd be like,
holy shit.
Wait, but you should do it.
That's such a cool experience
to see a color you've never seen. You know what? I'll'll do it i guess i'll figure out how to do it i mean
what do you mean what's the worst thing that could happen you get freaked out and then you take them
off and then i'm back to normal and then you're like spooky spooky oh you should just do acid
and then put the glasses on and be like see that would be a whole fucking thing that would be crazy
i'd have to be in a safe environment yes you'd have to be in a safe environment are you an acid
fan i've done it once
and it was the best experience I've ever had
and I never want to do it again because it was so great.
See, we did it in the first time.
Well, you've done it once. The first time I did it
was on Fire Island. Me too! Yes, it was
the best experience I've ever had in my life.
And then I did it again with Matt in Upstate
and it was also wonderful.
Yeah, it was amazing.
It didn't take away from the first at all. I like doing it Upstate. The second time I did it was in LA and we were in a house and it was also wonderful. Yeah. It was amazing. It didn't take away from the first at all.
I like doing it upstate.
The second time I did it was in LA and we were in a house and it was raining and I felt cooped up in the house.
So that was a little bit less comfortable, but still a good experience.
I'm going to Joshua Tree in a couple weeks.
I might there.
You got it there.
But then I'm like a little bit like a desert and we just have a house and I feel like the only place we could go would be like walking around the desert.
I don't know.
But you're not going to go anywhere. I don't know but you're not gonna go anywhere
I don't know
when you're tripping
Fire Island was so perfect
it's perfect
you got the beach
you got the bay
you got it all
it's so close
and then you could just
walk around
and look at all the houses
and go wow
and then buy a slice of pizza
to Fire Island
your mom has a house there
yeah I've been going there
since I was a little baby baby
same
I learned how to surf my grandpa had a house there. Yeah, I've been going there since I was a little baby baby. Same. I learned how to surf.
My grandpa had a house there.
And then he famously kicked us out.
What?
Yeah, because his wife said we brought sand into the house.
Oh, God.
Wait, and so you're not allowed back to that?
You weren't allowed back to the house?
No, we had to.
Well, we could come to visit, but we couldn't stay.
Because you brought sand into the house.
I mean, she just was, she was bad.
Yeah, but Long Island women and like the worst thing you could do is bring sand in the house.
Or bring dirt in the house.
I think it was just an excuse.
Yeah, right.
I think she just didn't want us there.
My mom and her dad have been not great relations.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was kind of like, okay, you don't stay here anymore.
So then my mom found this little like
cabin
yes
in another town
that was basically
no one was living there
you couldn't even see the house
it was like
totally overgrown
it was this like cabin
that this woman's uncle
had built
and there was just like
trees all around it
and then
she basically was like
I'll take it
and then
yeah
and now it's
and it was a little fixed wrapper
or is it
yeah it's still little
but she painted it
fun colors.
I love that.
And you gotta make it fun.
And you gotta make it fun.
Yellow, turquoise, pink.
Which beach was like
your beach growing up
on Far Out?
Ocean Bay Park.
Ocean Bay Park.
Ocean Bay Park was...
In fact, all my friends
from high school...
What street did you say?
I actually...
I'll name them all.
Bay Street?
Yeah. Yeah? Yeah.
Yeah.
Right on the Bay?
You guys.
Honey.
My girlfriends all in high school
worked at the market.
The CB market
or the Ocean Bay Park market?
Actually both.
Ocean Bay Park market
I mean yeah
because they own by the same
CB market's really where it's at.
What's the last name?
What is their last name?
The people that own it.
Wait did you
I didn't know you grew up
going to Fire Island.
Like truly all the time.
But like the straight parts of Fire Island.
That's what you're talking about.
Did you ever go to the day camp in Ocean Beach?
No, but all my friends did.
See, same.
Jake went one year.
Yeah.
My mom tried to get me to go and I got too scared.
When did you graduate high school?
What year?
2010.
2010.
Okay, so yeah, we were probably literally there at the same time.
I was 20, 2008.
Okay.
We have so much crossover 2008 we have so much crossover
we have so much crossover
we've missed each other
we? several times
I'm missing you guys
and this is ultimately interesting for the listener
for us to sort of catch up
and it's even more interesting for them to say
what I'm about to say right now
Ocean Bay Park Market had the best buffalo chicken wrap
wow but CV Market had really good deli sandwiches.
Truly, I'll never have food
as good as the food that I had
at those markets. So expensive.
Really? Crazy. Because everything has to be imported.
Psychotic.
Psychotically expensive. A bag of chips is like $12.
And truly the sleepiest 14
year old girl working at the cash register at all times.
But she's always cool. Tie-dye sweatshirt,
choker, flip-flops
100 my sister worked there too actually blonde but like loose bun but looks good you're 100
describing truly all my girlfriends from high school the loose bun is iconic yeah loose bun
iconic with like they're like i play soccer yep they played soccer the soccer girls and all their
screen names had either the word soccer or beach in it. I have this thought
about the teens who work on
in the pines specifically.
Yes, they run Fire Island.
Teens. Teens. Truly teens.
They run the ferries.
It's like scary. It's scary, but I'm just
like, are they? This is truly
just like, no, this isn't even
internalized homophobia. It's not even anything.
I'm just like, I look at them and I'm like, do you think that we're crazy? I'm like, no, this isn't even internalized homophobia. It's not even anything. I'm just like, I look at them and I'm like,
do you think that we're
crazy? I'm like,
what do you think about us?
I think they know what it is.
They know what it is.
It's teens
in the Pines and in Cherry Grove too?
I mean, there's a lot of
young people working there.
There's not as many teens in Cherry Grove.
No.
All the teens are running
every single shop
in the Pines.
I also think probably
those jobs are a little
bit more difficult to get
because you probably
make more money
doing the service jobs there
but the markets
and everything,
all teens.
But it's like
some gay people
can be monsters
to these poor children.
But also,
I don't know if you've
been to the street
part of Fire Island.
They're really wild.
They're insane. They're really bad too. I mean, Ocean don't know if you've been to the street part of Fire Island. They're really wild. They're insane.
They're really bad too.
I mean,
Ocean Beach at night
on the weekend.
Ocean Beach is a nickname,
the land of no.
Yep.
And it's just all these like,
rich Jews that are just like,
you can't,
you can't ride your bike
on the weekdays.
You can't,
they'll literally,
they'll,
they'll kick you out
or they'll put you in the jail.
They have a jail. There's the jail. They have a jail.
There is a jail.
Fire Island jail.
Yes.
It's like one cell.
It is truly prominently displayed next to the ferry dock.
Yes.
It is right next to the ferry.
The Fire Island jail.
I've been threatened before, but I've never been put in the Fire Island jail.
Oh my God.
Did you guys know that Macy's on 34th Street has a jail in the basement?
I had no idea.
That's almost as iconic as this.
Nicole Byer has this story
that she tells
and she told it on Seth Meyers,
I think,
where she would shoplift
and she shoplifted from,
she would shoplift from Macy's
and she had this amazing thing
where she goes,
okay,
so you say you wanted
to steal five t-shirts,
you put five t-shirts,
you put them all
on the same hanger
and then you pop,
you just pop tags, basically.
And then it's this whole convoluted thing that I can't even paraphrase.
But then she got caught one time.
And she got taken to the basement of Macy's and was thrown in a jail cell.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, they'll put you in jail.
There's a Macy's jail.
You can walk on the street with a drink in Ocean Beach and they'll put you in jail.
I'm so happy you said the land of no.
I hadn't thought of that in so long.
It's the land of no.
You are under constant threat of being thrown into prison.
If you dare ride a bike without a flashlight at night, you'll get a ticket.
Yeah.
That's insane.
Does it look the same as it does in the Pines and Cherry Grove where it's like boardwalks and trees?
They don't have boardwalks.
Oh, okay.
They're just concrete. It's similar in terms of layout. Does it look the same as it does in the pines in Cherry Grove where it's like boardwalks and trees? They don't have boardwalks. Oh, okay.
They're just concrete.
It's similar in terms of layout.
It's nowhere near as like aesthetically pleasing.
God.
I will say this.
Like there's something about Cherry Grove where you feel like you could bite the walls.
It's like everything's like candy.
Everything's edible.
Everything's edible.
It's Wonka.
Yeah.
It's very Wonka-esque. Very Wonka.
Very Wonka.
It's very Wonka.
Ocean Beach is like.
Very Wonka-esque. Very Wonka. It's very Wonka. Ocean Beach is like...
Very Wonka.
Maybe I've been there too many times, but it's like...
I can't see the beauty in it anymore.
Like the island... What is that called?
The Island Mermaid?
That restaurant?
Oh, yeah.
The Mermaid, yeah.
The Mermaid.
The Mermaid.
The pantry.
Yeah.
It's the equivalent to the pantry?
No.
Sorry, I'm getting things confused.
It's all kind of blending in for me now.
It's like a restaurant and a little deli.
So get this.
So get this.
I used to work, you know, the clam bar in the Fire Island.
The Nikki's clam bar.
Yeah, Nikki's clam bar.
I worked there.
No way.
That was my first job, Nikki's clam bar.
Wow.
And Nikki's on the Bay was my real job.
And then I was like, honestly, Sandy, I did the cash register for like, to get to-go orders. That was my real job and then i was like i i honestly sandy i did the cash register for like what you go to get to go orders that was my first job i wonder if i ever yeah bought a
fucking honestly like a paella for me one of the most incredible things is going on the ferry to
fire island in the summer and watching people eat hot clam chowder in the direct sunlight.
And that was me.
They eat hot clam chowder while just like sweating.
It is just like unbelievable.
It's not logistically feasible to eat it.
And it's honestly not logistically feasible
to behave in the manner that we all behave,
but they do it.
Hands down, it's not even about logistics.
It's not the place to do it.
You eat a clam chowder on a boat?
You eat clam chowder in a bread bowl
when you're skiing.
That's when you have clam chowder.
When you're downhill on the slopes.
That's when you eat it.
I don't know if you've never been to Long Island in the summer.
It gets hot.
She can get up there at 98 degrees.
99 degrees can feel like 103.
Can feel like 103.
But you're still baking on the top
on the top of the ferry just like eating chowder and it's also too windy to eat it yes the chowder
fly chowder fly yes chowder fly oh my god it's but correct me if i'm wrong yeah to get to the
point in your life where people start referring to Fire Island culture as like the gay thing, it's such a hard adjustment from like when we were growing up and it was like aggressively straight and aggro.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure it's like if you were to go to Long Island and go back to let's say like –
Ocean Beach, Ocean Bay Park.
No, like let's say you go back to – I know it.
I know where you're from, the neighborhood you're from.
Islip.
Islip.
If you go back to Islip and you say say fire island the people there aren't going to associate with
gay necessarily no that's the thing is it's like everywhere in the world it's like you say the
words fire island and they think oh gay and not that is not the case right oh that's what you're
saying yeah i'm just saying it it has a whole internally it means something totally it has a
whole different identity for people like sandy and i who grew up there. It's true.
Wait, you were Long Island?
No, I was Connecticut.
Connecticut, yes.
But my mom's a surfer.
There you go.
And I was not good surfing in Connecticut, so we would drive every weekend.
Yeah.
I'm talking about Northeasterners.
There you go.
Northeasterners.
Who frequent Fire Island, don't think of it as like being gay.
Exclusively gay.
But we would always go over there and have fun.
Would you?
Mm-hmm.
See, that was not.
Yeah, see, me and my mom, my brother would like walk over and like hang out.
Wow.
I wish that that had been a thing for me, but it was kind of like, I don't know.
Who would you have gone with, right?
Who would I have gone with?
Well, I did end up going, oh, wow, that's a whole other story.
With the Nikki's boss?
So I had a relationship with someone I worked with at
Nikki's Clan Bar and then
they exposed me to
that
fire island for a brief moment. Did you know about it?
I knew about it.
But it was like the pines. There's something illicit
about it. Right. You know what I mean?
Cherry Grove. See, Cherry Grove I thought
was like the gay part and then now
I understand that's more family
oriented and the Pines is where you party, right?
Well, Cherry Grove is like more family
oriented. It's more where a lot of the
lesbians are and it's just like
it's homier, I guess
is the word. It's also more fun.
I think it's a little bit more fun. It's a little bit more low key and it's
kind of like, you know, they're just like
yeah. It's not as like
I always thought of it as like the Pines is where the like big fancy houses are.
Oh, the Pines is House Kitchen and Cherry Grove is Chelsea.
Yes, that tracks.
Yeah.
That tracks.
That actually tracks.
That actually tracks for me.
That actually tracks for me.
That actually tracks for me as well.
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Yes.
I didn't, it's not like I didn't even know.
It was like, I just didn't know you could like seek things out.
It was kind of just like whatever my mom wanted.
It was handed down to you.
Yeah.
And so I didn't have basically the only things
that I like
the only music I listened to
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and
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we are very similar
actually
Jimmy Buffett
I know every song
are you a parrot head
oh my god
I would have heard of myself
as a parrot head
my dad is the parrot head
you know A Pirate Looks at 40
is right there
okay
A Pirate Looks at 40
A Pirate Looks at 40 the book is right there this
is the second time we've talked about jim buffett today actually i so funny i mean truly like
someone the other day tried to like challenge me on it and she was like oh really you're like a
jimmy buffett fan like for real name five songs i was like i could name 20 and she was like okay
and then i just did i mean and it was and i didn't even understand that that was like not
good like I had friends that would like make
fun of me and be like haha Jimmy Buffett and I was like
what's the joke I don't understand
it's just fun yeah it's
it's they were like well it's like
it's like yacht rock and I was like I don't understand
like what was so what how is that
I hate how that's pejorative but also I used
to wish that they you know how on American Idol
they would do like theme weeks?
I was like, when are they gonna do Jimmy Buffett week?
I wanted to hear like someone cover Fins.
Yes, Fins, an iconic song.
What's your favorite Jimmy Buffett song?
I would say that my favorite,
depending on my mood.
Really depends on the mood.
I'm gonna say
Cheeseburger in Paradise.
Cheeseburger in Paradise is a classic.
I mean, that's a classic,
but that's also like, you know.
I know, it's not a deep classic.
I think Come Monday
is maybe his best written song. That's a great one. I think it that's a classic, but that's also like, you know. I know, it's not a deep cut. I think Come Monday is maybe his best written song.
That's a great one. I think it has the most emotion
in it, but I do, I think Finn's
slaps, and I also think
I also think
Volcano is good. Yes.
And I love, um,
I don't love Pencil Thin Mustache, but
I love that one. It's iconic.
I wish I had a pencil thin mustache.
Okay, that's a good one. I wish I had a pencil thin mustache. Okay, that's a good one.
I wish I had a pencil thin mustache.
I mean, I'm telling you.
But you know his album, Songs You Know By Heart?
Yeah, obviously.
Obviously, I know them by heart.
Yes.
But it's called that because none of them were singles or anything,
but they are so in the fandom that you truly know them all by heart.
And that whole album, I could play back to front
like
and also
there's other things
like Havana Daydream
like I don't know
like all this shit
okay so for me
Boat Drink Slaps
Boat Drink Slaps
Boat Drink Slaps
to talk about
changes in latitude
changes in latitude
nothing remains
quite the same
okay so
Boat Drink Slaps
Son of a Son of a Sailor isabs son of a son of a sailor
is gorgeous
son of a son of a sailor
because then
there's the woman
that comes in
for the like
bridge
that woman is iconic
and the lady she has
from Trinidad
wow
yeah I know
it's a lot
do you know what I referenced
before with Mel
and no one knew
what I was talking about
he went to Paris
looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
And also that's such a sad, beautiful song.
Okay, wait.
So did you see Beach Bum?
No.
Jimmy Buffett's in it.
What?
Yeah.
So Harmony Corrine's like my favorite director.
Yes, you love Harmony.
It's not my favorite of his movies
but I think that there are some
moments in it that are so
worth seeing it and one of them
is he has
Jimmy Buffet and Snoop Dogg in
a scene and they are singing a song together
that's genius and I will say
that's a bridge it is one of the
I met him when I was doing this vice show
Jimmy? No Harmony Harmony and I told him when I was doing this Vice show. Jimmy? No.
Oh, Harmony?
Harmony.
Harmony.
And I told him,
I was like,
I gotta say to you,
like,
thank you so much because you gave us
what I would consider
the greatest Jimmy Buffett song ever written.
Wow.
And it's called Moonfog
and it's like written for-
From Beach Bomb?
Yeah.
This one I don't know.
I don't know Moonfog.
No, it was written for the movie
and it's like,
it's really good.
And if you listen,
you can hear Snoop like on the
like in the background
he's not like singing on the track but you can hear him
and it was great. I gotta say this is
actually beautiful and Sandy came in today being
like I don't know that much about culture but
seeing you two connect
it's so my culture
this is huge. Son of a Son of a Sailor
is truly beautiful and as I've gotten
older like I guess when I was little
I liked the uptempo stuff
like obviously Margaritaville
is like his iconic song
right
truly
talk about a genius
global brand
yes
yeah I mean
gorgeous marketing
did you read that
New York Times profile on him
no
that was when
the Margaritaville play
came out
yes
and it was basically
just about how
he is this like
business mogul
yeah
who owns so the other Buffett I mogul who owns so many franchises.
And the island lifestyle is so far from what he is now.
It's a goddamn brand.
It is the definition of a goddamn brand.
But I will say, and this is just me speaking as this complete outsider,
someone who is not a parrot head,
does not really connect to
in the same way
that you guys are
but I think it is beautiful
the thing about Jimmy Buffett
is I think he did
it's like how people
are talking about K-pop
now where they're like
it's a new invention
in music
I don't necessarily
think that's true
but I think with Jimmy Buff
with Jimmy Buffett
I think it's beyond
Yacht Rock even
where it's like
Yacht Rock
it's not
it's not Yacht Rock but he invented it's a newish invention in rock music I guess I mean it's beyond Yacht Rock even where it's like Yacht Rock. It's not. It's not Yacht Rock,
but he invented,
it's a newish invention in rock music, I guess.
I mean, it's just like a brand.
It's truly, it's like a story you can opt into.
It's like, I'm island guy.
But it's singular.
But it's singular.
And it's like no one else has really come close
to like mimicking that or emulating that.
It specifically, I I think caters to
people like my father who was a working
class person
who worked hard at his job
and wanted an escape.
And so it literally is a
state of mind that is
musicalized. And that is
like. And it can be mass produced and mass distributed
and everyone can listen to it. Truly
genius because you can actually write
real songs or you can write full ass
joke songs like why don't we
get drunk and
screw a classic that one always made
me uncomfortable I mean yeah
my mom would skip
it yeah we listen to it in the car and
my mom was like Richie not this one
yeah
that one always made me uncomfortable yeah I was just like, Richie, not this one. Yeah. Because the kids are in the back. That one always made me uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I was just sort of.
Richie.
But he also was like, he's like a full novelist.
He is.
He's like.
He's an artist.
He's good at what he does.
And so you're right.
No one's really tried to just do brand first.
Yeah.
Well, actually, you could say that Lady Gaga with Joanne kind of did do that.
You know.
There's no restaurant.
Have you been to the restaurant?
Margaritaville, I'll always hit one up
if there's a round. 100%. We've been to Joanne
Trattoria. Oh, no, no, no. Wait, you're talking
about Joanne Trattoria.
Okay, so I was talking about Margaritaville.
No, of course. I know what's happening at Margaritaville.
And I've taken you to Margaritaville.
I have not been to Margaritaville.
Sandy. We have to go. It's good.
It's fun.
It's fun.
It's really fun.
I wish they would open one in New York.
I know.
It's crazy.
They have Bubba Gump.
Why can't you fucking do Margarita?
But we go.
Whenever we go to Orlando.
This is insane.
We always.
I always make a point.
I'm like we have to go to Margaritaville because you go to the Margaritaville restaurant and
the whole gag of it is you go and you sit at the bar and the um the like huge pitcher that's on top of the
volcano fills up and then the whole lights in the restaurant go in and out like and the pitcher tips
over because the volcano's blowing right of course and down the waterfall is the margarita and it
fills up a huge blender and then like that is to show that they've they've like the margarita has exploded from the
volcano and we can all drink so it's ready
so it's ready and then
you know what song plays in the
I don't know where I'm gonna go
when a volcano blows
Mr. Utley
oh you know what I love the coral reefers
come on that's his backup band
he'll go coral reefers yes
the steel drum is employed so well.
And you eat your cheeseburger in paradise.
I've never,
I've never been.
You gotta go.
Where are,
they're all in Florida?
No,
there's like,
well,
they're all in the southern,
there's one in,
there's one in Cancun.
Actually,
you know what?
I almost said there's one here
because I genuinely don't know where I am.
There's one in LA.
Oh,
okay.
At the City Walk. Obviously, Universal Studios. Okay, so I'll go there. So here because I genuinely don't know where I am. There's one in LA at the City Walk.
Obviously, Universal Studios.
Okay, so I'll go there.
So we'll go there.
When you come out, when we cross over, you will go.
And then there's also one in Orlando.
There's one in Cancun.
Yes.
There's one in the Keys.
And any like island resort.
Virginia Beach.
Oh, really?
All that stuff.
Wow.
Shocked they don't have one in New York
because it wouldn't not slay
I mean it's like
we're on an island
right
hello
hello
actually we're in Brooklyn
right is that an island
is Brooklyn an island
it's Long Island
well Brooklyn is part of the Long Island
so there we go
I
there's gotta be some other musician out there
who has all this
this brand
I mean we're missing someone
but like
a musician
a musician with a restaurant
like a truly
who's a musician with a restaurant. Like a truly-
Who's a musician with a restaurant?
Oh, Toby Keith.
Toby Keith has I Love This Bar and Grill.
So he had a song called
I love this bar.
It's my kind of place.
Okay.
And then-
There you go.
Now there's an I Love This Bar and Grill.
And I went there
when we were on a Story Pirates trip one time.
And I went there.
Josh Lay.
He worked on the Vice show
he was wonderful
he's the best
and the handsomest man alive
he is such good energy so cute
he was truly one of the only people there
that was like
positive and like fun
everybody else was miserable to be there
and he came in every day
with great energy and he was always having fun
that's who he is
I love that guy
he is such good energy and I remember
this is how you know I was like a young
I think this was about 5 years ago we became friends
with him 4 or 5 but I remember we were
on this trip and we went to Toby Keith's
I love this bar and grill and he was so excited
and I was like excited too because I kind of like
country music and he ordered a whiskey on the rocks
and so I ordered a whiskey on the rocks.
Wow.
Wow.
That's the power of straight men.
Wow.
And we hide ourselves.
I kind of do that with anyone
because I don't really know
like drinks at all.
What your drink is.
I don't have a drink.
Is that sad?
It's not sad.
My mind is, I've changed. What is yours is. I don't have a drink. Is that sad? It's not sad. Mine is.
I've changed. What is yours now?
I do martinis now.
Because literally of a photo that Sandy
Honig took. Wait, that really? Yes.
You gave me my drink. I was like,
I look good holding this. Yeah, you did.
I'm going to order this. That's an iconic picture
of you. And I'm going to order
this. Just for the listener, I took the photo of Bowen with the
martini. And as of this recording date, Aprilil 21st she's still not been no i actually
just got the check oh okay just got the check never mind just got i was i was in i was out of
town and i was like really pissed off again being like i can't believe they still haven't fucking
paid me this is for out magazine and so i just want to call you out um okay and i was like about to like like pop off again
and then i was like oh wait and then i got home and i had the check and i was like all right thank
god okay when the check come in when the check oh when the check come in when the check come in
i love i love i love i love when the check comes in. That's a beautiful song you can say when you get a check.
That I can say.
That Matt wrote.
Really?
I wrote that.
I love it.
It's beautiful.
Thank you.
I'm musical.
He's very musical.
Did the rest of the team get paid?
I know that.
I have to check in with my assistant.
I know that the set gal did get paid.
Did.
Okay.
That makes me feel a lot better.
This sentence.
I have to check in with my assistant. It's Sandy Honig. It's Sandy Hon paid. Did. Okay. That makes me feel a lot better. This sentence. I have to check in with my assistant.
It's Sandy Honig.
It's Sandy Honig.
Power.
Power.
I have to check my assistant.
Only the Buffetts and the Honigs.
Mm-hmm.
Well, he was just my assistant for that shoot.
I see.
I don't have an assistant.
I'm just pleased, honey.
I bet Jimmy Buffett has a whole fleet of assistants.
Oh, he's got a bunch of little girls in bikinis.
Yep.
Hondo.
I'm sure. Honestly, we had a room in our house. This will be the last thing I say, but it little girls in bikinis. Yep. Hondo. I'm sure.
Honestly, we had a room in our house.
This will be the last thing I say, but it's important I say this.
Yeah, okay.
I think you will understand.
But no one understood.
Whenever I would invite anyone over to my house in high school, I was like, you have to come see the room.
There was a hole.
You have to. There was an entire room in my house which was covered in parrots, parrot paraphernalia, photos of beaches, and Jimmy Buffett paraphernalia.
And it just crossed over to Kenny Chesney.
I've seen this room.
You've seen it?
Yeah.
It took over an entire room.
The entire back den of my house was Jimmy Buffett themed.
Where's that stuff now?
I don't know.
Wait, so when you do your 73 questions video, you have to do it there and then be like,
do you want to see where the magic happens?
Yeah.
And then be like, bring it.
Follow me and you think I'm going to my gorgeous luxe bedroom with satin sheets and it's the
Buffett room.
Yeah, the Buffett room.
My mom didn't have that.
She just had it all over every room.
Yep. My mom's dashboard in her car was like two like parrots in a little barrel.
Like my mom is beach.
My mom is true beach bum.
The theme is beach.
Yeah.
The theme is beach with her entire life.
She's from Manhattan.
It's an escape.
But she like ran away to Barbados and like is just like surf girl.
And she lives on Fire Island.
Wow.
I love that.
She lives on Fire Island.
Yeah.
And then in the winter, she's in Brooklyn with her boyfriend or in Costa Rica.
Wow.
She's just beach girl.
And she's a doctor you said?
She's a doctor.
So she does like, it's like a new thing, telemedicine, where you can basically just like video chat
with a doctor.
Yes. So she just can do that from wherever. Oh my God. That's amazing. That is it. it's like a new thing telemedicine where you can basically just like video chat with a doctor yes
so she just can do that
from wherever
oh my god
that's amazing
that is
it
imagine achieving
she's a surf doctor
it sounds like
that's like an actualized lifestyle
yes
you know what I mean
like fully achieving
like you are fulfilling
all of your needs
your own personal needs
all of them
all the boxes are being chucked
okay here's a question
if you were to step into
the reality of what you really,
if you're to get that actualized lifestyle,
where are you?
What are you doing?
What's your schedule?
Oh my God.
I can go first.
Yeah, you go first.
That's a big, heavy question.
I own my own theme park.
Jesus.
His arms, by the way. Arms out. Arms are out. I own my own theme park. arms by the way
arms out
arms are out
you look so strong
very strong
do I look strong
you look very strong
come on
I think Matt's been working out
your arms look very strong
when your arms
when the arms come out
when the arms come out
wow that's so huge
when the arms come out
that's huge for me
someone struggling physically
in the gay community
oh my god
okay
well you know
you have your own theme park
I have my own theme park.
But.
But.
It's somewhere where I can work.
It's in LA.
It's outside of LA.
In fact,
it's
in
Bakersfield.
Bakersfield.
Okay.
I don't know Bakersfield though.
I haven't thought about this enough.
You know what?
Let's just go for it.
I have my own island, right?
Yeah.
The theme park's on the island.
The industry comes to me.
It's a huge film studio.
It rivals Disney and Universal.
So what we're doing is we're having Rogers.
It's called Rogers Land.
We've talked about this on the pod.
Here are some rides that are included in Rogers Land.
Leah Remini's Escape from Scientology the Ride.
Yeah.
Starring Leah Remini.
Leah Remini is an animatronic.
J-Lo rides the car.
J-Lo drives the car.
And you ride in it.
There's a theme park
called the Matt and Bowen Experience.
I mean, there's a roller coaster
called the Matt and Bowen Experience.
It's a dueling coaster.
There's many ups and downs.
Ultimately, you end up together.
Oh.
Right parked in the station.
Oh.
Two best friend coasters.
Oh.
There is a drop tower
called the gay experience.
It shoots up and down
and to and fro actually.
Oh, like a Wonka Vader.
Yes.
Up, down, sideways, square, right?
There's a haunted house
themed to Big Little Lies.
Wonka.
A Wonka.
Willy Wonka.
Willy Wonka.
That feels like something
that like Mickey,
does Mickey Minaj
ever talk about?
Willy Wonka. I know she's shown. Willy Wonka. Camera Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka. That feels like something that like Mickey, does Mickey Minaj ever talk about? Willy Wonka?
I know she shouldn't.
Camera Willy Wonka.
Yeah.
Yes, she's done that.
Sri Lanka.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sri Lanka.
But it should be Willy Wonka.
We're the bad bitch that came from Sri Lanka.
We're the bad bitch that came from Willy Wonka.
Where is the Willy Wonka rap community?
Trapped inside. I'll tell you where they are. They're trapped inside Wonka rap community trapped inside
I'll tell you where they are
they're trapped inside
Wonka Tower
because they're the oompa loompas
they're in the chocolate river
yes
drowning
they're going up the tube
and they feel disgust
on their way to
what was the
where do they send him
to the furnace
or whatever
what a terrifying
fucking movie
terrifying movie
he killed his children
I was just talking about this
with someone
I feel like
it's given enough clues that they're like,
oh, she got sent to the furnace.
But sometimes they don't do the furnace on this day
if you get there fast enough.
Where it's like, they're not telling you they died.
They're giving you enough out.
Oh, really?
It's a horrifying movie.
But they did.
The way they leave it is like like the one kid is shrunk
the other kid is a giant ball
he might as well be dead
yeah
the one kid's a giant ball
the one girl is
but she gets juiced
yeah
she gets juiced
right
the one girl just straight up
plummets down a furnace
yes to the furnace
and the other one is like
drowns
Augustus Clue
Augustus drowns
drowns in the chocolate river
no no no
he got sent to the marshmallow room or something.
And they turned him into a marshmallow.
But then they're like, maybe not.
The fact is.
The whole thing is they just run away with the mom and they're like, let's go check.
Yeah.
You weren't sure it's fine.
Yeah, it's probably fine.
It's behind their shoulder.
No, it's not.
Physiological trauma.
You're changing the matter.
I thought you were going to say fizzy lifting drinks.
Fizzy lifting.
Fizzy lifting trauma.
Fizzy lifting trauma.
And that is inherited. And that is inherited. Trauma that is inherited. That is actually inherited. Busy lifting trauma. And that is inherited.
And that is inherited.
Trauma that is inherited.
That is actually inherited.
Wait, okay, wait.
Keep doing this.
Okay, the rides.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
The blue sky, blue sky.
And that's, you know, you know my deal.
So that's my deal.
Well, I think there should be a three busy Debras coaster.
Okay.
Three busy Debras.
Three busy Debras.
And honestly.
Three tracks.
It never comes down
It only goes up
Oh
Because it's the rise
But it takes a couple years
Where you don't hear from them
Like it kind of goes up
And you don't hear from them
For like a while
And you're like
Wasn't that a ride
And then it comes down
And you're like
Oh yeah
It's a ride
The biggest ride of all
I feel like everyone
Is always just like
What happened
Yeah what happened I Yeah, what happened?
I'm like, we're working.
What happened to that?
We're writing a show.
It's like, we're writing.
Yeah.
We're writing.
We're writing.
That's what's happening.
Okay, development is hard.
Yeah.
All right?
It's not just all roses.
Sorry, I'm in, like, development hell.
People love to be in development hell.
Oh, it's one of my favorite places to be.
Yeah.
That and Orlando.
If I'm not in development hell,
I'm in Orlando.
Yeah. That's beautiful. Can I'm not in our development hell, I'm in Orlando. Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Do you guys have this?
I think I have a quick.
It's a lot of pressure.
Schematic version is.
Give it.
Give it.
It's a Natalie Portman lifestyle where I'm married to like basically like a ballerino
and I live in Paris.
Wow.
I see that.
I see that for you.
And then I decide to poke my head back in the industry, the comedy industry.
Are you a comedian at this point?
I'm a comedian at this point.
Or have you transcended?
I think I'm a comedian still.
But all my references are very disgusting European.
Oh, like a David Sedaris type.
Exactly.
Like where it's like, I'm funny, but I live in like the hills of France.
Okay.
Thank you so much. Because at first I was like, I guess it's Natalie Portman. No, it's like i'm funny but i live in like the hills of france okay that i thank you
so much because at first i was like i guess it's natalie portman no it's date it's david sedaris
yeah and maybe i do just maybe i do just do like one one stage one live show every two years and
then i just write books maybe wow basically sedaris type essays and memoirish essays. I should say,
I love that for you.
Yes, and?
Okay.
I should just clarify
that my theme park is hilarious.
Okay.
Everything about it is so funny.
The games are so clear.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
They have set up punchline.
Set up punchline.
That's really,
in fact,
broad.
You can't even get in
if you're not funny.
You have to pass UCB 401. You have to pass UCB 401.
You have to pass UCB 401 in order to get in,
actually. Absolutely. And actually,
the tickets are really expensive.
Yeah. And pitch
three sketch premises.
You have to pitch three desk pieces
and write in
50 monologue jokes. You have to pitch three
desk pieces. In order to get a
ticket at my park. Ew, what is this noise? And you have to do a desk pieces. And I've got to check it out at my park.
Ew, what is this noise?
And you have to do a bit with the person at the gate.
Oh, God.
They're like, we got to keep running in.
We got to stop running into each other like this.
And you have to do a five to seven minute set in which you do 15 different characters.
All racially problematic.
All racially problematic.
Which is great.
Black out between each.
Yes.
That's it. Sandy okay i feel like see i feel like mine would sort of be in an amy sedaris sort
of world oh yeah i feel like i would live here yeah i would live new york yep i would have a
a place where i had a okay okay this is dream dream dream no yeah please floors yeah in which No, yeah, please. Floors. Yeah. In which we have a photo studio in the home.
Yes.
We have an area where I can do my aerial silks because I'm addicted to the stuff.
Addicted to the stuff.
I'm addicted to climbing up the curtain.
All right.
And we'd have, you know, we just have it all in the home.
Never leave.
Yeah, no.
Occasionally go to the bodega and be like, I'll have a Diet Coke and Goldfish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also 14-year-olds run that bodega.
Yes. With the messy buns.
And they will still intimidate me.
Yes.
Truly, the girls on Fire Island are the most, because I just was like, I'm not blonde.
They all were.
They were all blonde
they were all like thin
they were thin and their hair was thick
and blonde athletic soccer girls
and they could just throw it up there
yeah these were all my girlfriends in high school
tie dye sweatshirt little shorts
oh those slides
the Nike slides but with socks
and then like they're just like
yeah you wanna get pizza?
What's your name?
Emily.
Emily.
Sam.
Tara.
Tara.
Tara, Sarah.
That was the big adjustment.
It was coming from Connecticut to Long Island.
I remember I had a friend named Tara, and I would call her Tara.
And my mom was like, they pronounce it Tara.
We're going into a new culture. And I would call her Tara. And my mom was like, they pronounce it Tara. Oh my God.
We're going into a new culture.
Truly shout out to all my friends from high school who did this job.
They pronounce it Tara.
As if you're going into a foreign country.
It's a rule of culture number 66.
They pronounce it Tara.
If you want to hear a very Jew-y thing my grandpa once said.
Please.
Because he's from Brooklyn
and he asked my brother where he lives
and he said he lives on Myrtle and Nostrand
and my grandpa was like you're pronouncing it wrong
it's pronounced Moidal
it's Moidal
and Sandy's fanning her hands out
Moidal
it's pronounced Moidal
oh wait there was something that I was going to say when we were talking about Fiddler
when so you were asking about the translation there was something that I was going to say when we were talking about Fiddler. So you were asking about the translation.
There was one thing that was very odd because, so there's that song where Tevye is singing
Tehava, you know, and the lyrics are little bird, little Havala, of course.
And so the word for little bird is Fagala, which is also the way you say a faggot
yeah so it was just like
this whole song of being like
little Fagola and I just was
sitting there being like oh my
is Fagola Yiddish for gay
too or no? Yes it's like
it's Darag
it's Darag
filed under Darag
D under Darag and it was just like
a full number of
little Fagola
and I just was like
oh my god
my brother
the like old man
timbre you just gave
your voice
little Fagola
Jake and I were like
grabbing each other
Jake's my brother
you know for the fans
for the fans
Jake we love Jake
that's very funny
and
and
honestly speaking of funny oh what nothing please speaking of funny I was gonna transition us the bands. Jake, we love Jake. That's very funny. And honestly...
Oh. What? Nothing, please.
I was going to transition us into more
hijinks. Oh, hijinks?
It's time for I Don't Think So Honey.
And I Don't Think So Honey
is actually our one minute segment where we take something
in culture that doesn't
sit well with us and we have one minute to
rant on it. Okay. And here's the thing.
I went ahead and
got something it's a pre-select it's a pre-select you might even say it's a pre-select this is matt
rogers's i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey easter it's
fucking weird first of all he rose yeah i don't think so honey y'all look the same y'all had long
hair and i'm assuming abs at the time.
He died ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Sorry, Christians.
Okay, also, I don't think so, honey.
The whole Easter bunny of it all.
What?
It's a large rodent?
No.
Why are we allowing this to be?
Listen, if I see a rodent, it's going to get exterminated.
Hand me.
I don't think so, honey.
30 seconds.
It hides eggs on kids. That's frustrating. I don't think so, honey. It hides eggs on kids.
That's frustrating. I don't want to look
for shit. I want to know where things are.
Also, what's in the eggs? Coins?
They should all be taken out as units
of currency.
It's about dollars, honey.
That's actually a rule of culture.
Here's the thing about Easter.
What are we eating? Ham?
Truly non-specific
at least we know on Thanksgiving we're getting
a specific feast which is
a turkey feast honestly
Easter you have nothing more like
Yeaster no one likes you bitch
that's one thing
Yeaster and of
course no one likes you bitch
it's actually rule of culture number 46 Easter
more like Yeaster no one likes you bitch more like Yeaster day no one likes you, bitch. It's actually Rural Culture number 46, Easter. More like Yeaster.
No one likes you, bitch.
More like Yeasterday.
No one likes you, bitch.
More like Yeasterday.
So I just took that and sort of picked it.
So Yeasterday, so Yeasterday.
I like a bird that's already flown away.
Honestly, that worked.
I love being mad about ham because it's nonspecific.
It's n-specific.
Easter is that holiday where my parents are always like, happy Easter.
And I'm like, oh, I forget that people care.
You know what I mean?
It's that one holiday.
It's when Jesus came back.
It's when he made his big return three days later.
When he dropped his EP.
Yeah, it's when he said,
just kidding,
bitch,
the bitch is back.
And he came back for a little,
like,
truly five seconds
and then rose up.
That's the thing
that always gets me
is that he showed up
and then he left.
Yeah,
well.
Where'd he go?
To heaven.
It was literally.
Wait,
what?
Yeah.
So he's resurrected
and everyone fucking
loses their minds
and then he immediately
pieces and leaves. Wait, I thought he, he like came back and did more good stuff no no
it was literally he comes back and forgives he comes back and he's like hi and then he
does he get killed no so he gets he famously was crucified and then three days later he rose again
and basically what he does when he's risen is he says to everyone in
being risen like i was real and your belief in me was not in vain and i forgive you for allowing me
to die and i and i forgive you and the theme of of of my existence is you know forgiveness and
etc and then he rises and he goes back to and he's like i am i am. I am the son of God. And bye. And then he goes to heaven.
And that actually has absolutely nothing to do with Easter eggs.
Where do the eggs come in?
Birth.
I mean, it's like, you know.
Oh, is that it?
I think that's what it is.
So what does the rabbit have to do with eggs?
What's the rabbit?
Do rabbits lay eggs? I think the rabbit thing is actually it's like, I think it's, I think the rabbit thing is actually like a fusion
of pagan imagery.
Rabbits should lay eggs.
Because like hardcore
Christian people
hate Easter,
hate Easter activities.
Like they hate the rabbit,
they hate the eggs.
Yeah.
So like that's,
the rabbit stuff
is like pagan imagery
mixed with like Christian imagery.
That's what it is.
Well,
and with that,
we have Bowen Yangs
I don't think so honey.
And his time,
it starts now.
I don't think so honey
responding to my DMs with emojis. Don't dismiss me bitch. I don't think so, honey. And his time, it starts now. I don't think so, honey, responding to my DMs with
emojis. Don't dismiss me, bitch. I want to
keep talking to you. You're going to end the conversation.
You can just end the conversation
on a word, honey.
Truly. Try it out, bitch.
Because you're rotting your brain by
tapping back a fucking
heart eyes emoji at me, and I don't
know what that means. Do you want to have sex with me or not?
This is targeted. So unlike want to have sex with me or not? This is,
this is not targeted.
So unlike you to bail only halfway in.
So I'm realizing this is not exclusive to sexual DMS.
It's also exclusive.
It was inclusive of all types of DMS.
Emojis are dismissive.
And I think we should all clock that and say,
you know,
don't,
don't push me away.
I respect your boundaries,
but you can tell me that with words and not with imagery and
glyphs invented by Japanese people that you are now.
15 seconds.
You are now not appropriating.
You are misappropriating.
It's misappropriate, honey.
I don't know what that means, but I stand by it.
There's time left.
Five seconds.
And look, emojis should only be used for tweets and texts.
That's one minute.
Not DMs.
How do you respond if a random person responds to your story?
That's what I'm saying.
You don't respond.
You do respond.
See, I feel bad if I don't respond.
Of course you do because it's rude.
I send the heart.
You double tap or you send heart emoji?
I send heart.
Double tap.
Double tap.
Or I say ha ha.
Or I say, you know, like, yay.
If I double tap the message, I love that.
That's perfect.
If someone double taps my message, I'm like, great.
They don't want this to dip into a full conversation.
I can respect that.
But the emojis are this weird liminal space where you are telling me you have a boundary.
You don't want to keep going with words.
I don't know that that's true.
I think that's kind of
the implicit understanding.
See, I think it's interesting
because it always has to end
at some point.
Yes, it does.
It 100% does.
But you can be like,
I miss the days
when you'd be like,
TTYL.
I talked about this
on Seek Treatment,
because I talked a lot about
sweeping the scene
in improv.
I would say sending an emoji is sweeping the scene in improv but I would say
sending an emoji
is sweeping the scene.
It is.
That's okay.
Fine.
All right.
Well, maybe you just have
to deal with the fact
that I'm also the one.
Sometimes people just
are done talking to you.
Yeah, I'm an improv expert.
Sandy Ho.
Yes, Sandy.
That's my web series.
Yes, Sandy.
Look it up on
Seesuit.
Okay.
So who's about to do one?
I can't remember if I did this on a live show or not.
Doesn't matter.
I guess we're going to see.
Improv queen, Sandy Honig.
Oh, yeah, really good at improv.
Here we go.
I don't think so, honey.
Her time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
Squatty potties.
Oh!
Okay.
Have the decency.
If I am coming over to your house
and your squatty potty is still in the bathroom,
I don't think so, honey.
I don't want to see a white plastic geriatric thing in your bathroom that is covered in your piss pubes.
And it is like especially in a male household or, you know, I don't want to say male because that is, you know, that is trans exclusive.
But, you know, if you were at home with dicks and you are pissing in a toilet and you have a squatty potty,
you gotta put it away when you have guests.
I do not want to step on your piss.
Also, what are you, a baby?
What are you, a baby and you're geriatric?
What, you can't shit?
Have a probiotic.
Eat a bean. I'm sorry.
What do you need to put your ears,
your legs by your ears for?
I don't think so, honey. The squatty potty needs to go. Eat a bean. I'm sorry. What do you need to put your ears, your legs by your ears for? Okay.
I don't think so,
honey.
The squatty potty needs to go,
put it in a closet,
put it away.
And that's what I'm unclear.
Cause okay. I am with you on,
they shouldn't be displayed as prominently and probably cause I don't
necessarily,
when I'm in the bathroom,
I want to forget that anyone else has ever.
This is exactly what I say.
I picture the person
squatting over the toilet
every time
if I see a squatty potty
in your house
I'm going to picture you
taking a shit
with your knees
by your ears
and I don't want that image
and I don't want to see it
and I will say though
recently
I went to a house
and this guy had a
wooden squatty potty.
And that was elegant.
Yeah, that honestly constructed.
Because there's no dumb little grooves where piss and shit gets caught.
But why would it be white?
I know.
I know.
That is odd.
Design flaw.
Why would it be white?
That is a design flaw.
You can see everything.
I guess because most bathrooms have like prominently white, like a coloring scheme.
Which is also wrong.
Toilets should be brown.
Toilets should be brown and yellow.
You know what?
Yeah, because that would solve a lot of issues.
I used to have a like black toilet.
Those are so sleek.
But you could still see the poop clinging to the bowl.
I love a black toilet.
Anytime I'm like, it's like it's sexual. I agree. I love a black toilet. Anytime I'm like, it's like,
it's,
it's sexual.
I agree.
I want a gray one.
Can you get a gray toilet?
I want a gray toilet.
I want a pink toilet.
Get this.
Have you ever shit on a toilet with a fuzzy seat?
Like with like a,
like a,
like a,
like a,
I hate it.
It's crazy when you think about it,
because if poop gets in that like mattress seat cover it's not coming
out well the other thing is how many times have you been in a bathroom and there's a little tinkle
on the seat and then i hate that and then you think okay so this is just in there just yeah
i also feel like if you leave the bathroom and it's not spotless that's bad it you need to take
toilet paper and wipe the seat yes oh wipe the seat and true and
also i'm sorry i know we're all trying to save water but i flush your piss i don't want to see
piss in the toilet that's how that's who i am well it starts to stink it starts to yes and also it
stains the bowl and also it stains it stinks it. It's called the courtesy flush, people, too, with poop. Courtesy flush.
Because sometimes not one flush is enough.
I know.
You know what?
What?
I moved into an apartment three years ago.
I have never once clogged this toilet.
Good for you.
No, it's a good bowl.
It's a good bowl.
It's a good bowl.
No, it's always about the bowl.
What's the color?
White.
It's white, but I got a pink seat for it.
Gorge.
Gorgeous.
And you know what else was gorge?
This entire fucking episode.
This entire episode.
What a fun time.
I had fun.
This was, please, to know that we can connect over Parrothead culture.
It's huge.
I really don't know anyone else that has.
This is historic.
Yeah.
It's huge.
To know that his book is truly sitting right there.
And I clapped that before and I was like, oh my God.
And then when you said that, no, I don't own own the book i've never read any of his books i didn't
i didn't know about the books you didn't know that he was also writing books i did not know
about the books is a man who looks at 40 is that in a novel a man looks a pirate looks at 40 a
pirate looks sorry i'm sorry so it is a song as well oh it is i hope he writes i could write a
novel based on every one of his songs they're so
deep oh they go hard they all tell a story they all tell and some of them are funny too yeah i
mean why don't we get drunk he's got jokes you know what makes me laugh there's one i don't
remember it's like called the weather is here i wish you were beautiful the weather is here
i wish you were beautiful
yeah oh my god yes what a beautiful beautiful you know what oh it's a really quick good one I wish you were beautiful I'm so easy to see
Oh my god
What a beautiful beautiful
You know what was a really quick good one? Fruitcakes
Fruitcakes is good
Fruitcakes is funny
Fruitcakes is about everyone's crazy
It's a comedy song
It's a comedy song
The thing about Jimmy Buffett is that he
Toed the line between comedy musician
And Ernest
Rocker, I guess.
You could say he's a singing comedian.
He's a singing comedian.
He's like a weirdo.
Just.
Oh, my God.
This is insane.
No.
Crazy statement.
Wrong.
No, I'm just saying it's so funny to refer to him as a singing comedian.
But kind of isn't that weird?
It's the ultimate character.
It's the ultimate character.
Yes. Yes. He is going to, on his last day of his character. It's the ultimate character, bitch.
He is gonna,
on his last day of his life,
he's gonna say,
fucking,
you all bought,
because the fact that we've all bought it
is so funny.
Yeah.
God.
It's Andy Kaufman shit.
I was just gonna say,
he's gonna go,
I'm Andy Kaufman, bitch.
He's the front runner this year
for the Andy Kaufman rap.
He is.
He actually,
I heard he's gonna get JFL.
He's gonna get JFL yeah he's gonna get JFL
unwrapped
JFL unwrapped
of course
he actually doesn't have
a comedy rap
and that's sad for him
seeking rap
seeking rap
this is
thank you so much
for being on our show
thank you for having me
this was so fun
this was the most fun
and you know what
we end every
we end every episode
with a song
I think we all know
what that song's gonna be
cheeseburger in paradise the song. I think we all know what that song is going to be.
Cheeseburger in paradise.
Not too
particular, not too precise.
I'm just a cheeseburger
in paradise.
Wow.
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