Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Patti Lupone Marked It” (w/ Cole Escola)

Episode Date: April 5, 2017

After a TRIUMPHANT “I Don’t Think So, Honey!” live show in NYC, Matt & Bowen SPRINT back to the studio to GORGE themselves on piping hot culture. And guess who’s there waiting with a fork and knife? Cole Escola, bitch! And they talk about it all — Feud, Big Little Lies, Cole’s Theater Birthday Adventure, Regional Specificity, Sunset Blvd, the Best Live Shows They’ve Ever Seen, and so much more. Plus, we finally get an answer to the question, “Where Does Cole Escola Go On Vacation?”LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hmm. What's happening, Bo? Let me think. Is this another episode of Los Culturistas it's come to me it is another episode of Los Culturistas wow well then if that's true I'm yeah I'm so excited you guys so excited first of all this is the first episode where that we're back after our live show and that was fun that was so fun and thank you guys so much for coming. Yeah. Um,

a million people showed up. One million. I think, um, I think Trump's. Yeah. I think Sean Spicer put out a statement. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, he actually, he had put out a statement and said that it didn't happen. And then his Cupid's bow just fucking just tore in half and his face just split. Um, Oh my God.

Yeah. That was so fun. Wasn't it? It was so great. Yeah. And it definitely did happen. And, uh, you guys can, my God. That was so fun, wasn't it? It was so great. Yeah. And it definitely did happen. And you guys can, if you haven't, check out the episodes of the live show. And we have today.

I mean, I referred to him as our personal hero. I think that's accurate. Yeah. I was thinking today, and he's going to hate this. I think, like, I'm like, this is so lame, and I never say shit like this. But I'm like, oh, God, like like he's like like like he's a friend he's yeah I know best well it's like when you see someone fucking truly brilliant performance like you know yeah you get a little whoo baby okay let's talk a little wet a little wet you get a little wet for him um let's talk about the credits

you know him from hulu's difficult people you People. You know him. You know him. From Man Seeking Woman on FX. And you know him from Mozart in the Jungle. And you know him from his upcoming Joe's Pub show, June 14th. Check it out. You will know. It's called Help, I'm Stuck. It sounds wonderful.

Run, don't walk. Guys, please welcome. Cola Scola. Ding dong. Ding dong. And you know what? We open the door wide open immediately. Come on. Ding dong, he's here. Ding dong. Run up, run what You open the door Wide open immediately Come on

Ding dong he's here Ding dong Run up run down Clutch the banisters Clutch the banisters Also Fucking iconic I don't think so honey

Oh yes Thank you Yeah thank you That was great I decided If I was gonna You either go You either go

Frivolous Yes Or you go real And if you're gonna go real Yeah either go, um, frivolous. Yes. Or you go real. And if you're going to go real, yeah, better go real. I think I'm going to butcher this, but this is just one of the best setups and,

and, and punchlines executions. Um, you gave me shit for playing with, you said I was too old to play with Barbie dolls. This is, he's, he's,

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is for people who didn't listen. Cole, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. His mom wanting a relationship with him now. And he brought up the fact that she said that he was too old to play

with Barbies. And then Cole says, well, check your back for a Mattel label, bitch, because I've outgrown you. So good. Thank you. I mean, come on. Thank you. Cole, how are you? I'm okay. Yeah. You know, that's your stock answer. I've asked you this a lot, and it's always

a breath. I'm okay always I'm okay I'm okay Yeah you're right It is It is What's going on? Well you know the rain The rain Oh my god

It's a little rainy right now It's rainy in New York And I was talking to A friend of ours Aaron Jackson Yes of course About how it's so appropriate To cancel in snow

But you kind of need to cancel More so for rain because you can dust snowflakes off. Sure. I find it much easier to walk around in the snow than it is when the rain is falling down. Yeah. Now, are you saying you were very close

to canceling on us? No. No. The reason I brought it up is because Aaron had to come over to my house earlier. Oh, sure. And so I felt bad. We're going to airing later on tonight

we're gonna go see power rangers um and we extended an invitation to you but it's fine you have a conflict it's okay i have a conflict of interest you have a comment of interest recuse yourself from this so also i didn't realize so cole came in here and he removed his coat and let me tell you something the the the garment that he has on the blog no we're gonna take a picture of it in a little bit and it's gonna be fucking it's gonna stun everyone this is great and also i didn't even realize it was the date look oh yeah yeah yeah but i did i put this on before i even knew i was going on the date oh okay okay i love it i think it's great this is so it's like it's a red corduroy with it's like it's like red um what is this It's like red... What is this?

It's like... It's not denim. It's like faux... I don't know. It's like something a lady would wear on an L.L. Bean catalog. Exactly. She's like, I have an hour to get somewhere. Yeah.

I want to say... I have an hour to get somewhere. It's not the right word, but I want to say it's like twill, something like that. Okay. I'm so off the mark. I'm open to right word, but I want to say it's like twill, something like that. Okay. I'm so open to it. No, no, no. Yeah, absolutely. We're just going to pitch Cole some materials. And then there's a beautiful corduroy black collar. Black corduroy

collar. I love it. And also, what a nice vibrant color. This is something I'm very into lately is just a strong, bold color. Like, I'm wearing this color. Speaking of bold colors, Cole, I... Green. Green. I'm wearing a green flannel. Like, I'm wearing this color. Speaking of bold colors, Cole, I... Green. Green.

I'm wearing a green flannel. Yeah, that's like a great green. I'm wearing green. I have green. Cole has been documenting his new apartment and the new decor. And I just think it's so resplendently you. Thank you. I love it. What is it? Describeplendently you. Thank you.

I love it. What is it? Describe it. Describe the personal taste. Someone called it a dollhouse. Okay. And others have voiced similar. And you've agreed.

And I've agreed. Yes. A friend of the show, Aaron Jackson, did tell me personally that he went over and you bought like a ceramic cake. It was foam. It's foam. I'm so sorry. It's a fake. It like a ceramic cake. It was foam. It's foam. I'm so sorry.

It's a fake. It's a prop cake. Prop cake. Again, I just get these visions and then I go, thank God for the internet. I know. I know. Thank God. Because you can order it all.

I recently did a show and I was like, God, where am I going to get all these props? Let me tell you. They are all on Amazon. Yeah. They're all online. And then I recently discovered myself at party city like more than once in a week and the girl recognized me and said do you want to open up an account here at party city and i was like no i don't and you haven't been back no i didn't but like i would

go back they have such good stuff boas of every color i realize i now have a boa in like every color except yellow which i should get sure. Sure. With your complexion? I'm surprised that wasn't the first one that you bought. I know. It goes so good with my Tampa skin. It brings out your olive tones. Absolutely. I was just in Tampa and let me tell you, beautiful.

Beautiful. And the guys are kind of hot, but I'm also trash. Yeah. Are you from Long Island? Yeah. So that's part of me yeah yeah yeah like any any time i see like a guy with that like band of tattoo around his bicep yeah it's like a huge positive trigger for me great i'm like i love it great i love it like jersey shore was not

like wholly disgusting to me it was a little bit hot got it like paulie d i was still thinking about like three months ago paulie d haven't thought about him in a while he dated aubrey o'day from danity kane meeting of the minds right right right what a power couple now cole um uh things are going good in the apartment this is a new so this is a new move what inspired the move i um i had roommates yes and um one of them was from new zealand um he was a gay christian gamer okay who didn't like cussing no and then there was one weekend he was sick and he didn't know what to do and he kept asking for my advice oh no and um and you know this sounds like too much right right you don't like i'm one of those people if i hear my roommate in the kitchen i'm gonna stay in my room until they're gone yes or like if if i hear something sizzling on the

stove i go okay that means his back will be turned to me yep if he's facing you think at all i can sneak into the shower yes 100 but it just got to be too much. I'm so sorry. Well, but look, you can't live your life in fear. You cannot live your life in fear. No. This is something. Yeah.

Now, what were his games of choice? I have no idea. They were like multiplayer games. You guys like games though. Bowen is a big gamer. I do. And then today, Eric Gerson and I were playing video games. Did you show Yselda? Well, we were playing Super Smash Brothers Melee. Oh then today Eric Gerson and I were playing video games. Did you show us all that?

Well, we were playing Super Smash Brothers Melee but we were talking about and I was really enjoying myself and I was saying to myself because when I was little I was a big video games kid.

Like I had an N64 and I loved playing but I liked the cartoonish like Mario stuff. Like I liked Donkey Kong. I didn't like it when it got to all this like super realistic

violent kind of like craziness. Like I'm just not when it got to all this super realistic violent kind of craziness. I'm just not into it. And I never got into Halo. I didn't like the scary sci-fi aspect of it. It just kind of frightened me. I had a Sega. Yeah, Sega. So did you play Sonic? No, but I played... There was a game where you could be the little dot from the

7-Up logo. Oh my god. But that sounds like... I wasn't really good at it so i never got past the first level so i kind of just jump around the beach as that little red dot that's okay you interpreted how to play the video game your own way i was just like i get to live in this for a little while exactly until someone steps on me yeah yeah but then we were talking today about like how advanced they are in terms of storytelling now and how like they're visually beautiful. And I was like, maybe I'll try it again.

Maybe I'll like try to save up for a PS4, which I really don't fucking need. Our producer Joe is shaking his head no. And now I'm not going to do it. Okay. You know what, Joe? You're right. I'm not going to do it. Yeah.

I don't know what kind of games, but I'm jealous of gay game culture. Sure. I mean, you're not, you guys aren't missing much yeah do you feel like when you're playing the games like that you're wasting time a little bit um but last night i flew back in and just to unwind i put on zelda and in fact aaron this is very an air and air and heavy episode it's just too much aaron came over last weekend just to watch me play. Because he's a big, he is an erstwhile gamer, I should say. Right. And he came over because he wanted to re-experience

this nostalgia for watching other people play video games, which is like, sort of a weird, you know, voyeuristic thing. That's kind of sick. Yeah, I think we should check on him. We should also not talk about him so much yeah right no you're right you're right obviously there's something going on

there's something going on and um you know yeah just was i did did not did not make the first mention like like eventually we're gonna listen to this and be like oh we should have we should have known yeah we should have known then what it would become yeah he just wanted to come over and kind of just watch me do stuff like first it was just play video games but then he like he stayed after and just kind of yeah see that's interesting because i thought i thought i thought that was he wanted to watch me cut a piece of bread in half it was really strange he like brought the bread and like this very like flimsy plastic knife and he's like no no use that knife use that knife i don't know what and then of course what happened happened um if you see aaron jackson you know give him a hug and maybe ask him how he's doing and if you don't see me um i'm probably dead aaron

probably killed him yeah um okay so listen so video games not really a part of your cultural past, but we're about to find out much more. So we ask everyone on our show, what was the culture that you saw experienced as a young gun and made you say, wow, culture is for me, cola scola. Like I want to become a part of this. I'm interested in pursuing culture. Yeah. Okay. I'm interested in pursuing culture.

I want to slather my frame in culture. What made you want to say that? What made you say that? Well, I guess when I saw The Wizard of Oz. Okay. This is a big one for a lot of people. For a lot of people. And if you have to tune out now, hey, look, I forgive you.

I'm as tired of talking about it as you are hearing about it. You are listening about it. But I was obsessed with Billy Burke, Glinda. And from there I started, I rented like dinner at 8 and like got, you know, in front of all her. So interesting to me that Billy Burke is your takeaway from that and not Judy and also secondarily not Margaret Hamilton. No, like a Billy Burke queen.

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I love that character voice. She's fucking gorgeous. She's snatched. Yeah. She comes down in the bubble. She looks fucking good.

Yeah. She drops in She's like no bitch Like what did I tell you You had it all along And then she's like you didn't tell me And she's like oh sorry Oh what an inconvenience fuck

Yeah But she was gorgeous And then I found out like oh she was 50 at the time And she like didn't have any hair At that point Yeah yeah yeah yeah so she i was i was just obsessed with with her and then through that i got into old movies and yeah you know you're betty davis you're joan crawford okay so are you living for food yeah

come on yeah and i'm i'm um i'm going to the they're screening the finale here in New York Oh my god With Ryan Murphy Jessica Lange Oh my god Susan Stranding Oh my god I'm going

Okay so I am so gagged for the show And also my new thing Because I've been watching Feud and Big Little Lies And I am What gets me going is just like actresses acting Yes Like it's my favorite thing in the world Of course

It's why I wake up in the morning. So I'm in true heaven right now. So I tweeted at the actress that plays Pauline, the assistant. So who's amazing. And did you know that character is the only one not based on a real person?

Yeah, she's an amalgamation of women around the time, which I didn't know until I read an interview with her. And I tweeted at her like They need to give this woman an Emmy Because my new thing is being like That performance deserves an Emmy Everything I see I can't get enough

Now my new thing is Robin Weigert On Big Little Lies I'm not there yet You meet her in episode 3 She's so amazing. She deserves an Emmy. She deserves an Emmy. But I tweeted out like a true gay man.

I was like, can we start the Emmy campaign for Alison Wright? She's the unsung hero of this show. Yeah. And she like retweeted it and was like, you heard them, FX. You heard them. You heard the man. You heard them. You heard those people. Yes people the people are talking it's

like one ranting gay yeah have i encountered pauline yet i'm only on episode two yes probably yes because pauline is the character that tells alfred molina in the show you must make whatever happened yes she gives him the book right right right right right right and so that's her but i mean i'm all about i'm all about how to hopper yeah come on judy davis i mean where is she i mean she's been in everything but it's also like what was the last thing what was the last big thing she was in i'm trying to think well anyway she played nancy reagan that was probably the last like awardsy thing that she was in but she also hates um i've read interviews where she talks about hating american america and like judy davis yeah because she's australian honestly agree i guess i didn't

know that yeah she's like an australian stage actress and she hates like performing for like american audiences i kind of get it i got it somebody was saying the other day oh i was watching girls and it was the end of the episode and Lena Dunham was talking about, there was a big episode that was for Elijah. It was Andrew Rannells-driven episode, which was kind of cool. And there's a scene where he has to sing for an audition

and it's the first time we've heard Elijah on the show sing, but we all know that Andrew Rannells is a fabulous singer and musical theater performer. So he slays this short short shortcut of let me be your star oh wow i haven't seen this and he fucking crushes it and um then it's cuts to marissa jarrett winokur who's playing the casting director saying she booked it she

booked yeah you can stay for the monologue and popping open a bag of chips and then just like going in these chips and he's like okay great and then after the episode lena dunham was saying that i guess they they uh collaborated with him a little bit about the episode and he would talk about how he would be doing book of mormon like giving his life and then there would just be people loudly chomping on chips like in the first and second row and that's not how you treat like a theatrical experience like the world over there was i saw hello dolly oh oh this is this is um important to this show absolutely oh my god it's crucial i for my i turned 30 last november happy belated thank you nothing broke um but uh i and and for my birthday i bought a ticket to i saw the matinee of war paint

oh and then that night i saw hello dolly and then the day after i saw glass menagerie with okay can you can you spill a little bit about all of them okay yeah here we go talk play for all so war paint was very confusing okay because it doesn't know what its message is. It was obviously written before Trump. Yeah. But it's still about a love story between these two women. They were rivals, but their rivalry actually inspired them to be better at what they do. And this is Patti and Christine Ebersole.

Patti LuPone and Christine Ebersole. Yeah, okay. And there's one point in the show where Christine Ebersole's character has, Elizabeth Arden, has a line about how you have to stand up to bullies no matter what. And this is like taking place right before World War II. And it got like a huge applause from the audience because we're like, yeah, Trump. We get it and then it goes into this musical number about supplying lipstick for our women to like look good for the men overseas so it was this huge like blue ball moment of like oh wow like oh yes this is so cathartic and like yes yes um

stronger together female power and then and then like all out come these rosy the riveter chorus girls in like sequiny jumpsuits like yeah doing like kicks and like we'll look good in pink like like oh just just almost yeah almost stumble at the finish line yeah and it had a lot of those sort of moments where it was like because patty's character is an immigrant who started Helena Rubinstein, who started this business. And so there's a lot of like almost moments that way too. Yeah. And then it's just like.

Is Patty amazing? Yeah. Yeah. They're both, they both give great performances. See, I think my thing, I saw Patty and Gypsy as I'm sure you did as well. Yes. And did you see Patty and Gypsy? I didn't

I instead chose to see Xanadu Please leave But I saw Xanadu as well And I was fucking fully gapped I know but I was Yeah right I fucking loved Xanadu I saw it twice

I saw it with Whoopi Goldberg You did? Yeah Was she on book? Because I heard there was A lot of performances Where she was on book For a second I thought

We were still talking about Gypsy And Whoopi Goldberg and Gypsy. No. Oh. Can you imagine? I can imagine. I can and I'd rather leave right now than follow through. Than discuss it a moment further.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but Whoopi could not have wanted to be there less. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sure she was looking at a clock off stage. Was she? I'm usually off by 7.57 Was she filling in for Jackie Hoffman? She was filling in, yes

I mean it makes, casting wise It sort of makes sense A little bit, but yeah Well they put her with a real pro Which is like Mary Testa Who probably was dragging her around the stage Like nobody's over here now Watching someone walk their very old dog

You know, where they're like apologizing, like, sorry, sorry. And you're like, it's okay. It's okay.

Yeah. A hundred percent. It was like, Oh my God. That's amazing. Okay. So now talk about, because I want to ramp up to hell doll.

Okay. Tell us about the glass menagerie. Yeah, it was, um, you know, Tennessee Williams is so stylized and it's so like, it's like poetry.

Right. And so this production is very like, like modern's so like it's like poetry right and so this production is very like like modern and so it's just like it was gonna be like that yeah yeah it was like a bear set and um i mean there were a lot of interesting things but it's still like i don't know you take that dialogue and then you try to make it conversational and it just loses the music. Maybe I'm just gay. I don't like minimalism. I want it blown out. I don't think so, honey, minimalism.

Right. I don't think so, honey. I'm paid to see a Broadway show. I don't think so, honey. You're specifically paid to see Tennessee Williams and you sterilize it and then it's just, it loses it. Right. Let's just say we went to go see Sunset Boulevard and I'll talk about that later. Uh-oh. I went to go see that with you. Yes. Uh-oh. We went to go see it and it it's just it loses right let's just say we went we went to go see sunset boulevard and i'll talk about that later oh i went to go see that with you yes we went to go see it and it was it was on my birthday yeah we went to go see it and um let's just say i'm saving it for a

segment later in the show um but but no shade to glenn close who's a fucking legend are you sure i'm sure i'm positive okay what's your shade with what's your tea with glenn close i don't have tea with glenn close oh he clutched his drink he was like look some of us um like patty lapone yeah and some of us some of us have room to love both have bad taste see i'm guide for patty okay are you one of those gays who watches on a loop the Kennedy Center honors to Barbara Cook? Oh. No. If you haven't seen it. No, I have seen it. Because Glenn Close singing

Losing My Mind. Yes. Yeah. And the cut to Anne Hathaway in tears at the end. Yes. Yeah. We're all Anne Hathaway. We're all Anne Hathaway. That moment had to be edited from somewhere else. Like that. She paid to have it in there. sure her perplexes just push right um but what but it's so funny to watch meryl watching glenn close sing and wondering what what is meryl thinking like oh glenn yeah oh glenn but meryl was i mean i think she was gagged the whole time yeah but she's

rocking back in her goddamn chair but she she was fully gagging. She was being honored, though. For Patti LuPone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that night, Meryl was probably just laughing at Glenn because she was like, well, I'm being honored, and I have this fucking pin on my little mouth.

Right. Also, it's so much more boring to watch actors be like... Oh, sure. Because singers and songwriters, you can watch them do their music. Right, right. But then for an actor, it's just like... A reel.

When I met Meryl, we were on a set of a movie and we got close. We haven't talked much since then, but I'll never forget it. Yeah. Although, wait. It's 100% true. Yeah. Not totally unrelated, Tracy Ullman did do a tribute for Meryl at some... Hilarious.

Oh, that was the AFI. Yeah, AFI. It was when she talked about doing that movie in Africa. And they were on a plane together and almost crashed yeah and meryl was like oh this is great for my biographer like tracy ellman just pulled out a great that was a terrible meryl screen legend streep dies in fiery air disaster also on board limey comedian stacy pullman is the exact joke i've seen in a million oh my god i mean tracy ellman the children have forgotten we're gonna do an episode the children have forgotten about tracy and the thing is the american children the american children they need not forget because she's

very present i mean i would i just wish that more kids had gone to see into the woods because it was so fucking good i thought they would that be your one job with it my wish um would be for people for the kids to remember tracy element yeah she's killing it on her sketch shows too on hbo yeah and hbo is really good to her um they are though i will say they do treat her well she's she's always got a fucking show she had like a little bit part that was really funny on girls a couple weeks that's right it was fun it was too short but it was way too short. Yeah. I was like, if you're going to give Matthew Reese an entire episode, let's write a whole thing for Tracy.

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Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Okay, so Glass Menagerie. Oh, then it was fine. Yeah. It was good. Talk to us about Sally Field. Did she give you full drag? She gave you screen actress on the stage.

Really? Okay. Which was, like, good. But just, like, you realize that that like, oh, stage acting is very different. And I kind of wish I was watching a stage. She was great. And like emotional. Cherry Jones just did it, right?

Yeah. I would pay good money. Love Cherry. The children have forgotten Cherry. Cherry Jones. You know why? Because the children never really got to know Cherry. I think we need to,

we need to be celebrating our dykes more. Yeah. And so let's, let's please call to the stage Cherry Jones. Let's please call to the stage Holland Taylor.

Let's please call to the stage Sarah Paulson again. All Sarah Paulson's ex-girlfriends. I was gonna say, imagine, oh, that love triangle. I'm not sure it was ever a triangle. Honestly,

I want to put them in a movie together, all three of them, and watch them burn it up. Oh yes. Yeah. Put those women in a movie together, all three of them, and watch them burn it up. Oh, yes. Yeah. Put those women in a 1950s drama directed by Todd Haynes and let me fucking die watching it. Yes.

Throw Julianne Moore in there, too. Why not? Yeah. I mean, or just do a biopic of their trysts. Honestly. Ryan Murphy. Ryan Murphy. Get real meta.

Sarah Paulson. Honestly, how meta. And she could play Cherry. If we did a Ryan Murphy, like American Horror Story. Kathy Bates would play Cherry Jones. Thank you. Sarah Paulson would play Holland Taylor. Yeah.

And fucking Emma Robertson. Emma Robertson. Sarah Paulson. Yeah. Cole, pitch this to Ryan when you go to the party. I will. I'll scream. It's not a party. It's not like to Ryan when you go to the party. I will. I'll scream. It's not a party. It's not like I wouldn't even

see them. It's not like I was personally invited. I went to the premiere of season 9 of RuPaul's Drag Race and Ru was there but it wasn't like I just sat at a table with him and he bent over and asked how I was. These things are complicated.

Who the fuck are you please leave my table i need to get changed it's my dressing room um then hello dolly so hello dolly and was that the last one you saw no that was the that was the middle one so that probably did that ruin the rest of them for you because it must have been well the the first one was war paint then hello dolly that night and it was the the feeling that you got doing plays in high school like that good feeling oh yeah yeah like like remember like how exciting it was to be in a play it was like that feeling but in the audience just like just like watching yeah yeah yeah like it brought that feeling up of just like pure joy like theater joy like like pretty costumes i'm like whoa there's a

train and bet bet laid it out yeah yeah it's bet midler and hello i mean come on she does that little scurry walk across the stage at one point wow yeah do you think it's gonna be impossible to get tickets i mean i think you can still i would if you can i think you can. They're ridiculously expensive. I'm on TodayTix and nothing's opening up. Well, we saw Glenn Close for like $65. Yeah, and the nosebleeds though. Glenn Close. Oh, okay.

But here's the thing. So Henry and I were in London like 10 months ago and she was doing it there. Right. And it was a whole different story. Like you could not get a seat. And then someone reminded me you will know she did this part in broadway already like kind of people have already seen it yeah so a lot of people that would have been really excited about it have already seen it in new york or if they didn't they fucking went to london to see it right like they made sure they done seen glenn glenn clothes already do Sunset Boulevard right and so it's not as exciting

I think it's maybe more for her and low-key we were in like the fifth mezzanine and it was pretty empty it was empty yeah it was it was not a good turnout so but and this is I just want to mention this before we move on um Glenn's entrance was from like the top tier of the stage of course and so you couldn't see her. So people started plotting, and then me, Aaron, Henry, and Matt are just like, oh, what's going on? Oh, we're plotting Glenn's feet. Oh, right.

That's the entrance. Right. She had, with one look, she got a standing ovation. After, as if we never said goodbye, standing ovation. Then she came out for four count them four curtain calls which is on the low end let me tell you we only asked for two but four is on the low end because i hear like the average is six she wouldn't get off she wouldn't get off and then i was doing i was saying probably what's going on is like because every time she

would come back on the lead actor would come on as well and i was like probably she's getting off and then being like okay now and this time i'll just go it'll just be me and then he just follows her every time yeah we gotta do it again and it's just me i don't want to do four but like i will if you don't right stop fucking doing what you're doing right right oh there was none of that with miss bet how many current calls a bet take just the one like like the one with the company and then the one by herself. And, like, you know, like a huge ovation when she entered. You know. It's Bet.

I mean, come on. It's Bet. And everyone in the cast is so fucking good. I'm sure. Are there any other, like, stars in it? Gavin Creel. Oh, cool. This actor, Taylor Trench, who is i i think he's gonna get a

tony wow really i don't know i mean oh yeah he was um um blake dan he and blake daniel dated for oh oh okay okay okay yes it is a small friend of the show um hello dolly is has a very special place in my heart it was like one of the first live musicals I ever saw. Sure. And I just fell in love with the form. Of musical theater. Of musical theater, truly. I was like, oh, this is, and it was a well done high school production of it. The worst thing.

What? There was a drunk woman next to me. No. And there was, who kept like going, woo! No. And not even clapping, Just like waving her hand Yes exactly It was that and then there was

Behind me a senile old man With his adult daughter Who clearly this daughter was like Oh this dad used to love this show I'll take him to see Hello Dolly He had no idea where he was He was talking the whole time He kept singing Hello Dolly During like ribbons down my back.

Like he would sing Hello, Dolly. And then he kept like trying to make out with her, his daughter. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's horrible. I could just like hear all this going on behind me. And I was like, please, I paid so much money for this ticket for my birthday. But the show.

When is your birthday? November 25th. Oh, okay. So you bought it back then. Yeah. Okay, cool. Right when it went on sale. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. So I'm going to make that my mission because I feel like I got to see it. I really want to see it. You should also go back and see Donna Murphy when she does it on Tuesdays. Oh, I'd love to see Donna. Donna Murphy stepping in on Tuesdays? She's doing Tuesdays after it opens.

Yeah. Would pay good money to see Donna. And you know her. Her husband just died. Oh. That's tragic. Brewster Joe is laughing. You know what?

You're not a part of this community, okay? You're not at all. Have some respect. Tish drama. Tish drama. He also was Tish drama, okay? Please, I invented this community. Quote producer Joe. Wow, he's never been this vocal.

Who knew it would take us attacking his gay credentials? Oh my God, Donna Murphy. Donna Murphy, although you know what? I will say this. What? Not a Tangled fan, but will often listen to. Mother knows best. Take it from your mumsy.

It's a scary world out there. I love it. That movie has one of the best villain reprises. Rapunzel knows best. I love a reprise. Fine. If you're so sure now. But a villain reprise. Ursula deserved a poor unfortunate soul's reprise. She got

one. Did she? No. I think there's an element of the song. Not in the the film not in the movie i don't know i think that there was something no i you know what fact checkers get on this i i don't think it's there anyway wait what would it how would it have gone it would have been like now she's gotten her legs and i'm getting my voice i don't know how. Oh wait, no, she does with Vanessa. Oh. When she's Vanessa, doesn't she cackle and then like sing a line

as Vanessa? No, she like starts cackling and then the necklace starts to glow and then her form changes into Vanessa and it's just her laughing and laughing and laughing. No, no, no. She does have a little bit of a song as she transforms into Vanessa because there's a part where it goes from Pat Carroll's voice.

Oh, no, you're right, you're right. It's Pat to... God bless Pat Carroll. It's when she's human and she's in the palace and she's looking in a mirror and her reflection is Ursula. I can't thank enough whoever decided to name that character Vanessa. Oh, my God.

How iconic. Like the evil version, the evil hot version of fucking Ariel. No, what's her face? Ursula. Ursula is going to be Vanessa. Like I, I can,

I don't remember. I don't think this happened, but in my mind there was a moment when I watched it and hearing her name, Vanessa thinking, thank you. Yeah. Like, like, yes. thank you. Yeah. Like, yes, that's the name. Even as a young, young, young, unaware gay,

we're like, mm-hmm, that feels right. Wait, did Batgirl pass away? I would imagine that she must have. I think she might still be alive. Really? Oh, it's headphones on airplane mode. Yeah, we must be on airplane mode. But you would be surprised who's alive.

Glynis Johns is alive alive who is she i'm not familiar um send in the clown oh yeah the original little night music and she also played i first oh this is another like culture moment uh-huh um birth moment for me was the movie superstar yes at one point glennis johns who her grandmother, is watching the movie of Gypsy. Oh. And I was like 12 and I was like, I need to see that movie. And so then I did like detective work. Like, like there's you can hear one song of it.

One line of everything's coming up roses. And I found the musical based on that line. And you watched it at a young, young age. Yeah. See, that was me with, I've talked about this before, Funny Girl. My mom loved Barbra Streisand, and I actually,

Suti and I saw her in concert. I love Barbra deeply. Yeah. And that was like the one I watched. Oh, right, we saw it the same night. Yeah, we did go the same night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and it was awesome.

Yeah. But also, that concert got ruined for me by the conservative woman who sat behind me who was screaming at her to shut up about politics. At this point, you have to know. You came to a Barbra Streisand concert in the middle of the biggest election of all time. Like, what the fuck did you think? She's in Brooklyn.

Right, right, right. Yeah, that's. But she was incredible. So relaxed. So amazing. And Funny Girl, to me, one of the most iconic performances ever. But it's so weird how we find those things.

Right. What a tangential way for you to arrive at that. Because you expect when people sort of toss off these references and these movies that it's like, oh, of course you very organically found it but it's like it very rarely ever works out that way i have a question yeah okay so what's the best live performance you've ever seen oh i have i know my answer i have an answer it's very

basic but i have it's i probably have a different answer but like just on the criteria criterion of live performance um beyonce formation world tour and it's very basic all right blew my mind that was see i was thinking in a more theatrical space okay so then that's a different no because you know what yeah for sure when i saw her do her uh four performance at roseland that was unbelievable but i was thinking i remember when i was young i was like 11 or 12, 13 years old And we went to the city Came in from Long Island And we went to the TKTS booth

To get like cheap tickets or something And this was right after Sutton Foster Had won a Tony for Thoroughly For Thoroughly For Thoroughly I'm gonna call that Thoroughly For Thoroughly Modern Millie And she was the like name over Drowsy Chaperone.

So we got tickets to see the preview of Drowsy Chaperone. And she gagged the house down. There's a number called Show Off. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. It was a feat. You know, I'm friends with Lisa Lam lambert who wrote the lyrics oh she's fantastic

yeah yeah and she when i was in toronto she that's where she wrote the show and she was like wanted to want me to show you the house where i wrote show off oh my god oh my god that's we'll post it on the website that number that number is incredible and like it's truly it's so funny because I love that. I love that. Like, no, I'm,

I'm like ignorant to my own talents. Boom, boom, boom. Comedy. Yeah. It's so good. It's just so stock.

But like when someone can really fucking nail it and my God, Sutton Foster is, she's unbelievable. Yeah. Like, wow. I just, I can't think of like,

it was in the same room, but I, I will regularly watch Sutton Foster's rehearsal if anything goes. Yeah. I just, I can't think of like it was in the same room, but I, I will regularly watch Sutton Foster's rehearsal if anything goes. Yeah. She's where she just fucking tap dances for 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

Cole, uh, what about you? Um, Ellen green. Oh, little shop concert at city center. Wow.

Because did you guys see it? No, I didn't see it, but like I heard it was fucking i mean like talk about like ovation for like yeah every line reading and she was like ripping her heart out everyone's hearts out like the whole audience was like respectful yeah yeah yeah yeah reverential yeah and and gagging and gagging yeah how was Jake the trifecta he was great

he was good enough but not like competing and it was like he let her like have all her moments like she would like she would she would take 10 minutes for one word and the whole audience would be like take your time

your time yeah it was like it was one of those things where like i had to like instead of going to the closest train i was like i'm gonna walk like a few stops yeah because i gotta think this out let this sink in but every time i've seen beyonce i walked after i was like i gotta walk that that was so fucking crazy yeah so that was my go-to now i'm blanking on like a theatrical performance, but we'll get back to it. Well, you know,

I actually saw Patty in Gypsy 2. Gypsy 2. Gypsy 2. Gypsy-er. Mama's Revenge. Mama's Revenge. But I saw her do like a matinee of the show. And I was in the way back.

And I think she marked her shit. Uh-oh. But I don't know. Not to come for Patty. She fucking is amazing. But she's not above marking. No. And you know what?

It was Wednesday where she had to do the show again later. And I think I might have gotten the reserved version of Mama. And also, I have to be honest. From a young age, I probably every single day watched the Bernadette Peters Tony Awards performance. Yes. And that is to me one of the best performances ever captured on film. Have you seen the clips of Angela doing it?

No. There's like clips. Like, of course, they didn't have that, like the technology to like film the whole thing secretly then. But there are like enough clips there's a clip of her roses turn like the tail end of it yeah it's like we'll put it on the website we'll put it on the website yeah the way back to bet yeah that's pretty iconic too yeah yeah the for me it's like um patty unfortunately fifth place fourth place um i give it to Bette. Third place, Imelda Staunton. No. Second place, Bernadette. First place, Chris Colfer on Glee.

The definitive Rose's turn. Imelda is peasant food. Imelda's is very restrained. Oh my god. Alpo. Beforeraint's not the right word. Alpo. Someone, before the performance started, someone said, Imelda, here's your inspiration. Dog food. And she's like, okay. She's disgusting. I hate all her choices.

She's cheap and she's vulgar. Oh my God. Okay, so did you just see the performance of Rose's turn or did you just see the whole show? I saw the whole thing. You did? Well, because they filmed it. Right.

They did. And it's awful. Yeah. Well, she's awful. She's awful. This is unbelievable. Did you like Vera Drake? I did.

Yeah. But, again, that's a common woman, you know? She plays a peasant. She's a peasant. She was the perfect umbrage. Harry Potter, your Harry Potter. She was an incredible umbrage. i'm not i i missed the boat on here sure no worries but she was great i was just the wrong age totally i have a question for you uh-huh cola school is going on vacation what do you where do you go what do you do you know it's my dream to i i've never really

taken myself on a vacation i want to go to switzerland oh great i want to just be in the mountains and go on the balcony and have my coffee every morning and look at the Alps. You want to look at the Alps. You want to land in Zurich and just have fun. Yeah. I want to go down to the desk and be like, can you recommend a nice place for lunch? And then I walk there and I pass a farm with some cows. Lovely. Going to Europe is very that, I feel. It's like, where should i go and yeah while i'm getting there i'm gonna stop and enjoy because you know what i'm in a new place yeah i'm almost i'm almost too young for the trip i want to take oh you think so like i want very

much like um a geraldine page trip to bountiful moment you know yes i do like just like arms crossed lace gloves you know have you ever been to disney world i haven't but i have i recently went to disneyland okay different i'm happy that you know how different it is i do know how different it is yeah um it was smaller than i remembered it because i went as a 12 year old and it was a lot less antique. Yeah. Well, 12, I call it antique.

12 is an interesting age to go for the first time. Well, I was obsessed with Disney when I was a child. Sure. That was another like gay culture thing. I love, but I loved like, I would stay up and watch vault Disney,

which was the Disney channel at 11 PM would show all their olds. It was like Nick at night, but for the Disney channel. Yeah. So I would watch all those Annette funicello hayley mills movies and so um anyway i was so excited to be in disneyland when i was 12 and um like had like got a picture with every princess um wore the same disneyland sweatshirt like every day yeah it's a thing it's a different thing when you're that age obviously and then is it i think so yeah um but yeah i i still gag for it cool i would i would encourage you to keep an open mind about disney world okay not even disney world universal studios okay okay because you i think, would appreciate Harry Potter World, even though... I love a world.

And that you can get your worlds. Yeah, I love a different world. Put me in it. I remember I went to Flintstone. You love an immersive experience. Yes. I went to Flintstone Land when I was little. Oh, yeah. This was in Canada. We had relatives there, and it was one of the more traumatizing memories because we were on the bus. There were no characters about except for when we were on this bus going around. I saw Betty Rubble out like taking photos. I thought you were going to say fucking smoking a cigarette on her break. Smoking a cigarette. No, but I really wanted

but they wouldn't stop the bus for me to get off. Oh, fuck down. And then I was crying and then the the bus driver made a joke about it, and everyone laughed at me. Oh, my God. That motherfucker. Yeah. That sucks. Did you feel something change inside you,

and then you were gay? No, I felt like at that moment, everyone was telling me, you're gay. You need to pull it back. Isn't it funny when you flash back to those moments when you realize, oh, wait, that thing that I remember that was traumatizing, there was a you're gay you need to pull it back isn't it funny when you flash back to those moments when you realize oh wait that thing that i remember that was traumatizing it there was a there was a you're gay element yeah yeah it was like it was like we don't talk about that like yeah yeah you

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I mean yeah And just like act like That was like an accident somehow Like what mom What are you talking about Oh fine I guess I mean I have a few of the other ones I already have all the Hot Wheels

Yeah exactly Oh my god our moms were our original hags yeah that's true yeah i didn't um okay so we do have to take a quick break um and then we're gonna be right back and we're gonna talk more about feud because we didn't even start we didn't start to break the surface um we'll be right back with cola scola ding dong bitch i hope that you're sitting down at this moment yes because i'm about to give you something it's a little bit of an offer a little offer and you're gonna want to take advantage of this yeah okay for you the listeners of lost culture recess and thank you so much for listening casper is offering 50 towards any mattress purchase at casper.com you gotta take

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This is so hard. How much time do I have? 10 seconds. Oh, God. I mean, Betty, Betty. You're Betty, too. But there are so many things about Joan that are so much more fascinating. Because she, honestly honestly she's a more

interesting character because she is so self-conscious yes and so like self-hating and so scared yeah for every reason for every reason and there's so many more facets to that than Betty who's just like always like she came out of the womb who she was, you know? Yeah. Always brash. Always brash. Always.

Yeah. Do you have a very positive opinion of the show? Yes. Yeah. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Yeah. I,

I'm sort of like, I feel like we, um, are like, it was a mistake. Like, how did like, like there's too many stars aligned.

Right. Right. Like, like, why do we get this? Like, this isn't like, like, I did like there's like there's too many stars aligned right right like like why do we get this like this isn't like like i feel like we we're gonna like be taxed at the end of the year it's like remember when you like feud yeah like remember when you had to check gay last year well this year you're being you're paying for it and like and you know what i'm fine i would pay for that if that's where my tax money is going to. If it's going to ride your feet. Yeah. It's fine. I trust him with my money more than maybe anyone else.

Yeah. I'm really obsessed with it. Yeah. And I'm loving it. And I really. It was very hard. But I'm fucking living for Sarandon in this. Mm-hmm.

Sarandon's great. And it drove me nuts during the election. Of course. Of course. But man. She is. I think she's perfectly suited to it. Me too. God damn it joan you're

good yeah wow solid impression yeah when you're good joan god damn it you're good jessica lang had this really funny line reading in this last one and i can't remember the exact words i remember the weird word choice she made but the it was like where she was slamming her dressing room door it was some line about how gloria swanson deserved oh it wasn't you who was robbed in 1962 it was gloria swanson no but and then she goes it was gloria swanson you bitch it was that weird inflection guttural yeah yeah honestly and also just like everything about the show it's just like drenched in like authentic like set design and like the art direction it's fabulous it really is and also all supporting cast this act do we need do we can we talk about katherine zeta jones

and kathy bates yes we need the worst part of the show, I think. Yeah, but we need them. I think we don't need them. We don't need them because all they do is tell us what just happened and what's about to happen. But to be fair, I'm two episodes behind, but I feel like it's like... They don't do anything different. It's just that talking head. It's not driving anything, but I think it's also just a nice stylistic choice of Ryan Murphy to be like, okay, well then there's this like frame.

Like it's, it's like in pretty little, it's like in big little lies where it's, where it's like the interview, the fucking townspeople. It's like, you don't need it, but it's also like a nice framing device that is not totally functional,

but that, but I like it. It is functional. Like the, the framing device in big little lies is like, is the police. It's like, it's like,

sure. But it's also functional because it's a police investigation right so it's real whereas this is like a documentary about them yeah it takes place then because they're the same age that's what happened right also they're both so bad yeah yeah i think catherine is great but no she's so bad yeah yeah. She's such a, and I think she's really talented. Like, I've lived for her in Chicago, and I've lived for her so many times. She's so bad in this part, and so is Kathy Bates. And also, Kathy Bates killed in, like, Coven, and, like, she's killed so many times in her career.

But she's not always good in these Ryan Murphy shows. Oh, God. I mean, maybe the best thing that we've ever gotten from Ryan Murphy is Kathy Bates' accent in Freak Show. That Philadelphia accent. So I'm touching them girls. Would Patey C. Cole just do a show where he just replicates that

Philadelphia accent? No, the worst part of Feud is Kiernan Shipka. She is not the worst part. Absolutely she's the worst part. She's like just too... As BD Hyman. She's just too... You just don't like her as an actress. She's over camping it.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's that, but it's like it's not a match with the dialogue. But this last episode, I think was the best episode yet. Oh, I agree. I agree. Because now that the filming of Baby Jane is over, this is the actual interesting...

Now it's where it gets really interesting. So basically, for those that are watching the show, just to where we're at right now, if you're listening to it at a certain time, in the series right now, filming is they just announced they've announced well the end of the episode and is like joan crawford finds out she was not nominated for best actress and historically yes betty davis was and that's gonna happen that's gonna lead to a certain event happening that's like what this whole thing is about but it's so fascinating joan crawford she couldn't enjoy success she was someone who

constantly almost like out of fear like would rather live in a place of failure and self-hatred yeah despite the fact that this was a huge success like she gets this taste of being happy when the fans are really enjoying it and it's this like camp success but then when the actual critics uh post their reviews and like give their notices betty davis gets all the love and all the attention and joan crawford is like you know how about that moment when they're screening the movie and then and then joan comes out of the theater and everyone's like it's joan it's Joan Crawford. It's Joan Crawford. I cried. I cried. I cried. I was like, well done, Ryan. Oh, yeah.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Murphy. But then just like, what an amazing character examination. And it's now kind of like, it feels like, yes, the more interesting story is happening with Joan Crawford because I think she was just a more fascinating, harder to crack person. And I'm wondering if he's going to try to push those stakes up a little bit with the Bette Davis character as well, because we really haven't seen her struggle.

In fact, it's very easy to be on her side, because you get that Bette Davis just wanted to go there and do the work and create a great piece, which is easier to sympathize with. And I'm wondering if now we're going to see the kind of Joan Crawford, like the mastermind, like, and we're going to really feel for Betty at the end when,

when what happens happens. Right. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. I think the show is fabulous. It's suspiciously good.

It's what Cole was saying. It's suspiciously good. Yeah. I'm, I'm never on board for Ryan Murphy. I feel like, like we are, are like,

like putting on our mom's dresses And at any moment she's gonna come in And be like What are you doing And we're gonna have to explain ourselves Someone's gonna come in and be like What is this show And we're gonna have to be like

It's nothing we were just playing around with your actresses We're sorry You can have them back Her line reading with your actresses. We're sorry. Yeah. Like, you can have them back. Joan Crawford. Playing around with her actresses. Her line reading, she's, I think Jessica Lange

is killing it. Yeah. Just like, and also, when Betty Davis goes, God damn it, Joan, you're good.

Yeah. And then Joan Crawford goes, I don't really think so. And Susan's like, yeah. On YouTube, there is Joan Crawford reading her autobiography, My Way of Life, which is sort of like a how-to guide of how to live. Like the original Blake Lively, Gwyneth Paltrow.

Exactly. The goop of that time. And I highly recommend going to YouTube and searching Joan Crawford, My Way of Life. We'll put it on the blog. Put it on the blog. It's going to be a rich post. That like that exists yeah yeah you you should you should have a tumblr and post you know related pics well you know we should have as a fucking facebook page we didn't even have that we need to get we need to get that shit together yeah i made one a few months ago when i was drunk and there's three people who like it anyway okay well that's good

i didn't know it exists yeah um but who knows okay so okay so joan crawford has this oh yeah yeah yeah it's just it's just you're just talking about you're just you're giving a signal boost yes go check it out so is whatever happened to baby jane like one of your faves actually not really what do you like i mildred mildred you like mildred i do like mildred but but I actually prefer Joan's earlier stuff. Ah. Where she was like young and hungry and played like, I recently went into a place where I was watching her silent movies.

Oh, okay. Our Dancing Daughters is this one where she plays like a flapper. And, and they're all about like how she's a flapper and has this immoral life style and everyone looks down on her and then she makes some grave sacrifice and ends up like giving up the man she loves because she doesn't want him to marry a marked woman because she like was engaged to someone else. So, sorry,

Graham is talking now. Yeah, yeah. Some deep storytelling. Well, yeah, this was before the Hays Code where they were, you know, all these, I don't know how old

the fan base is out there, but there was something in the 30s and the later 30s called the Hays Code and that's when movies had to like live up to a moral standard and like

bad guys had to have their comeuppance which is why in movies like The Letter the Bette Davis movie in the play version she like gets away with the murder but in the movie like she has to like pay for it at the very end so do you think that like this was like

you got really like kind of obsessed with like these kind of movies and it absolutely definitely informed like the kind of characters you play in the work you do now 100 yes yeah see i feel the same because like i find that the kind of character that i gravitate towards are like some people like like girls that i idolized growing up which was like honestly like alicia silverstone like i'm from long island so i saw her and i was like yeah what's the deal with that yes I was like what is going on there like yeah like hot young girls like in like in high school that like took themselves so seriously like that never stopped being fascinated to me and that really shows up still in the stuff that I do so it's fascinating to hear that, that's like a real thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You,

you draw it back to that. You intrapolate or whatever. Like you, you imprint on something at a young age and it never really goes away. I mean, I mean, Cole, Cole's the preeminent master of that.

I agree. You also do that theater director character. Oh my Diane. Diane. Did you ever know Liz Suedos? Have you ever heard of her? I've heard that name. Yeah. Did you ever know Liz Suedos? No. Have you ever heard of her? I've heard that name.

Yeah, she was a theater director. She passed away a couple years ago that I worked with her. And I thought, oh, my God, I wonder if he knows Liz Suedos. Because she was like a La Mama, like real presence, like on the downtown, like, you know, Lower East Side. Like she wrote the show Runaways. It was Tony nominated back in the day and she kind of like ended up working with young kids and like just the way that you behave as that character is liz down to the wig that like kind of like stringy blocky stringy like blacked out like like it just covers what side of your face yeah that like kind of like i don't care about this but of course i fucking do like i know exactly the way i look but like you don't think so yeah

yeah she's sort of based on like and every you know like community theater elders that like yeah that just were so full of lore and like you were there for it and like and and like that's what can happen if you don't put your prop down in the right place yeah like and just like telling you these stories as if they were like ghost stories like you know like yeah but

the lore meanwhile was like not even that no no no no no it was always like and if you don't we did not have the basket of grapes for our town square sequence. And I kid you not, we had six actors out there that were all looking at each other. What are we doing?

But what you don't know is the audience is looking to you for what to do. And you're like, oh, okay. And they didn't feel safe. And therefore, we didn't feel safe right and therefore we didn't do our job today yeah yeah that's so real also i'll never forget a character you played at your show um ethnic realness when it was downstairs at the pit oh yeah jennifer convertible your character of jennifer convertibles was very good and And thank you. Thanks. I'm glad that was a positive memory. An amazing,

an amazing blackout line. This whole, it's this whole soapy drama sequence about Jennifer Convertibles owner, I guess. And you can correct me of the Jennifer Convertibles empire. Yeah. And she saw, she,

she, she ends up like solving this like plot to like, I guess kill her. Uh huh. And the, and the last line is, but Jennifer, how did you,

Oh, it was right. Like it was someone, I thought it was Ashley home furniture had come to kill me, but it turned out to be Ikea. And I put it, well, it was Ikea.

I put the pieces together myself. Honestly, amazing. I'll probably do that at Joe's it. Well, it was Ikea. I put the pieces together myself. Honestly, amazing. I'll probably do that at Joe's Pub. Oh, please do. I would be very happy. Also, wait. Then there's, of course, I mean, this is like sing the praises of Cole Lauer right now, but maybe one of the best videos online is Happy Orange.

Oh, thanks. That's so good. Thanks my god just go just go home google search happy orange cool cola scola happy or like cola scola what would mom commercial mom commercial have you just type in all the buzzwords you will be very glad that you did it is such a ride that i've always wanted to be like Moms in commercials And I remember like My first TV appearance Was when I was 11 years old

I called in to QVC And gave a testimonial on the air As a mother No And they bought it? Yeah I didn't say anything I took it very seriously I didn't say anything I took it very seriously

I didn't want to say anything outrageous I was just like it was some carpet rug shampooer I love this I have four kids, they're in and out and it's great, we also have a fireplace and it just, you wouldn't even know it

I love that that's amazing this is why this is why this podcast exists yeah for moments like that we dig for that moment oh my god that's incredible oh my god that's that's like that's brave too i was shaking i mean yeah shaking that i was gonna get caught that like i going to say something wrong you know that was a that was like one of the first primordial tests for you yeah absolutely did you always perform um like uh there was this um traveling troupe called Missoula Children's Theater oh I think I've heard of them it was like two actors that would put a show on in a week, um, rehearse.

And then the shows would be on the weekends. And, um, up until I was like 12, I did those shows every year. Oh, cool. Um,

and I would cry every time the act, the professional actors left town. Oh, cause they became like a little, I was like, there goes the only thing that made me happy all year. Wow. Shit.

You know? And where are they now? Where are they now? Where are they now? Still doing it. Still doing it. Still at. Rapunzel.

Hansel and Gretel. Oh my God. And then, you know, community theater. Yeah, of course. High school theater. What role? Okay. Have you talked about this in previous episodes?

I'm happy to rehash. Okay. No, yeah. But roles? Roles in high school. I actually didn't perform until I was in college. Really? Did you show choir?

No, I did nothing. I was very deeply in the closet. I did track and field and cross country. This is the remarkable thing about Matt. Once he was liberated into that sphere uh it just this depth of knowledge just was there locked into place i was always sitting there like doing my research like when i was when i was when i was closed i don't even know how to describe that in like a cool way but like i was never into like the second i got to be by myself i was like listening to like

margaret cho's stand-up album so it was like listening to like Margaret Cho's standup album. So it was like single white female, like single white gay male. Yeah. Like, like you were just wait, you were like stalking the version of yourself you wanted. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, like it was, it was very that it was like, you know, one day I'll be able to tell someone that I have this Sandra Bernhardt album memorized. Yeah.

Yeah. But until then I can't be a 15-year-old boy on Long Island. You know, that's funny. The reason I came out is because I wanted to rent Queer as Folk from Hollywood Video. Oh, my God. Did you have Hollywood Video?

We had Hollywood Video, yeah. And then I also wanted to buy Judy Garland's Carnegie Hall album. Like, I had other albums of hers, but I was like, for some reason in my head, I was like, if I buy the Carnegie Hall album,

people will know I'm gay. Yeah. So I just have to come out and then i can get those two things yeah and those kind of things like that doesn't go away like every now and then i'll just be like i'll find like this little creeping thing in my brain where it's like oh well don't say that right too gay to say right now and it's like oh, but that's what I want to say and you know what? There are a lot of people who don't think at all like with that. Right. That comes up for me

like when I'm dealing with cashiers that are like straight guys. I find myself being like, nope, that's. Yep. Deepening your voice.

Classic. Classic. Bye. Thanks so much. No more set. Yep. No more set. No more set.

No more set. Like as few syllables as possible. Yeah. I call every straight man brother thank you brother thank you brother really good to see you brother i do it all the time and you know what i fucking hate myself all the time you know who i do it with all the time is justin we have a mutual friend justin yeah who i love i've worked with for several years and cole's good friends he, he's like a, you know, beautiful straight boy. Yeah. And,

um, like he's become a good friend. Um, and I'll just be like, uh, dude, bro. Yeah.

Yeah. Who that's, you know what? That's a friend of the show. You've met him. Friend of the show. Guy Branum, his set of Matt Rogers.

He's a beautiful product of Long Island masculinity, but he's now the most, the most musical theater of fags. Yeah. Which is just the entire arc. I'll take it. It's always what I've always wanted to be. Yeah, there you go.

Wow. I try, guys. But you did theater. Did theater. What were your roles? And I've watched through this before, and it's very closely tied to the musical theater director at my high school, who was the dance teacher.

Meanwhile, the straight plays were directed by the drama teacher. But the dance teacher came in every year and had a great relationship with her at first, but she had this image. She just thought I was this huge diva because I made the mistake of freshman year when I auditioned for the musical, which was Once Upon a Mattress.

You said only this role? Yeah. Yep. I said no understudy because I thought, first time auditioning for anything, I was like, I don't want to. Right. I want to just show that I want to, like, be a part of the actual cast. Yeah.

And I thought that was, like, a bad mark to say that you were willing to be an understudy. Like, I just did not have. Right. The working knowledge to know what I was doing. It was like a miscommunication. Exactly. And so she pulled me aside after the audition freshman year. She was like, hey.

So, you know. And she explained it to me as the audition freshman year. She was like, Hey, so, you know, and she explained it to me as well as she could, but that stayed with her. And so then sophomore year was crazy for you. Uh huh. Gershwin, Jake Buck musical did chorus role, chorus part in that as well.

Then junior year was Barnum, which is a shit show, like a terrible show. And, um, my IB program kicked into gear that, that year, which is just this like intense academic

thing like an ap classes sure yeah and so uh just she thought i wasn't committing enough to the show asked me to leave and then my choir teacher was like trying to like just rebuild that bridge wow and he was like you should go and talk to her and i was like okay and i said this on joel's episode the onus was not on me as a 17 year old to do this absolutely not looking back it was never right it's completely the right way to deal with kids right no and so then I had to like set up a meeting with her sit down in her office

just you know grovel basically and she took that well and then conveniently enough senior year was anything goes she passed away she passed she passed And then conveniently enough, senior year was anything goes. She passed away. She passed. She dropped fucking bed right there in the office.

She passed. It was anything goes. Anything goes. Were you father? I was. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

I was. The stowaway. The Chinese stowaway. And it was awful. Wait. Is the character Chinese? Well, so in certain renditions, I mean, yeah. Oh.

I've never seen Anything Goes. Okay, yeah. So I'm sorry, it's not the father. Oh, okay. I'm thinking of Burt Lahr or the Joel Grey part. Right, right, right. No, so Joel Grey's part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the father has these two Asian stowaways.

Oh, God. That's horrible. Jesus Christ. And just had to like just put on the accent and it was just the worst that's just okay and that was like that was like my reward for like making amends with her and it was just it's still we're going back there tomorrow we're going back there tomorrow and i mentioned this on joel's episode two the artist how insane is that crazy? I would have killed to just have even had a measure in a fucking song. The way that those teachers play politics with kids.

It's like, shut up. We get that your lives are not always as big as you wanted them to be, but you don't have to be small. I get that you're running this combustion engine of ambition and whatever for kids. And you want to get that started early. But the way that it was specifically, and I'm just not acting the victim here, but just was totally inappropriate. It's supposed to be fun. No. You're supposed to be.

You know what? It's show business. It's not show fun. It's show friendship. It's show business. You know what? You're right. You It's not show fun. It's show friendship. It's show business. You know what? You're right. You're absolutely right.

Thank you, Diane. I actually, now that I remember, I did do one play when I was in sixth grade. And it was like a lot of people did it. It wasn't this thing where I'm like, I'm interested in the arts. It was like, we're all doing this. So I played like a pirate in Peter Pan. Oh, okay. um so i played like a pirate in peter pan oh okay and um this girl alicia one day who i had been really good friends with and we had messed around a lot because that's what all it was is like us

messing around like kind of being in our places kind of knowing our lines whatever and one day she turned to me and she said you don't take this seriously and honestly i don't want to be associated with someone who's not taking this seriously. And if you don't take theater seriously, then you really shouldn't be in theater club and you probably should quit. Where is she now? Where is she now? Bring her up. Get your phone out.

Bring her up. I don't know. But the thing is like, it's just funny now that I did that. Shake you at that moment. It did. Because I was like, Oh wow.

I'm so panicked in a way that she doesn't even understand. Yeah, yes. And for her to come for me in this way, like, it was so much for me to even have friends and be there. And for her to come for me in this way is, like, so crazy. Oh, my God, you're crying. He's literally having such a hard time reliving this. Wait, speaking of moments, this is just one addendum I'll add to this whole, her name was Miss Wood, this dance teacher, Miss Wood Saga. My moment for me that's like that is I approached her, I approached her junior year and I was

like a little salty about still getting a chorus part, which is a little bit, which was a little diva-ish. I'm sure it was more salty than you're remembering too, or admitting. Sure. So then I, so then, so. So then she had pulled me aside and wanted to talk to me about it. She was like, I don't know if your attitude's right. And again, again, this is monstrous of her.

But then the moment was this other kid, Brian Black, was there. He's this great performer. I think he's still acting now. She goes, the reason you're... I can't believe she said this. The reason you're in a chorus role is because, and she points to Brian, she goes,

is because he is able to go into the audition room and be a polished performer, and you still need to figure that out. Oh my God. And I was like. You're like literally a baby. I'm 16 fucking years old. Anyway, Cole. High school roles for you.

I mean, theater roles for you. Just, you know, Marius Seymour. Marius is great. Matt in the Fantastics. I was the only guy that did theater that could sing. You got to eat up all those parts. Yeah, but I didn't want to play. I wanted to play them.

Character roles. You wanted Eponine. Yeah, exactly. The character role of Eponine. Yeah. Wow. I mean, yeah. That's what a fun, what a fun little stroll.

Little nugget. Wait, can we talk quickly about Big Little Lies? Because you guys, this is going to be the first episode. By the time you guys hear this, Big Little Lies will be over. Yeah, yeah. But it's given me my entire life. And Cole, you're only in episode three? I'm only in episode two.

Yeah, I've only seen the first two. So you're episode three. But you guys, oh my God, it's so fucking good. It took a long time for me to get on board with it, but I'm fully on board. I think about it. I thought about it a lot today. Reese Witherspoon is very much my spirit guide. She's back.

She's back, baby. She's back. Producer Alex and I were talking about this earlier. He thinks it's her best performance. I think it's maybe her best's back, baby. She's back. Yeah. Producer Alex and I were talking about this earlier. He thinks it's her best performance. I think it's maybe her best performance of her career. And that is saying something when you actually take a second to remember that she's giving you some gold. Yeah.

This is coming. This is stacking up. Yeah. This is like beating out fucking Tracy, you know? And Elle. Because it's like all of her most iconic roles literally rolled into one. Yeah, it's like Tracy Flick and Elle Woods if they had, like, grown up. It's like

that, like, determination to get whatever she wants of Tracy Flick. It's that, like, privilege and, like, bitching. It's like, no, frivolity of Elle Woods. And there's this, like, really, like, the shades of darkness she. And there's this like, like really like the shades of darkness.

She kind of showed in like Wild. And then like, honestly her like regional specificity is pretty on point too. I guess you could point that to walk the line, but like you just believe it so much. Regional specificity. That's what we want in an actor. Wow.

I'm sorry. We're going with someone with a little more regional specificity. Oh, absolutely. I understand. I literally, I don't mean more than exactly that. No, no, I know. Yeah. Yeah.

But I love that. Like, like she, you just weren't as regionally specific as the other people. That's like a real way to dance around some bullshit that you could be saying. But I, I fucking love Reese. I mean, there's a monologue in episode 6 Oh buddy Did you just see it The monologue she gives to her daughter

About how she's made mistakes I was like Cole you're gonna live I was about to fork some pad thai in my mouth And then she starts the monologue And you put it down I just froze I cried And just mouth agape was like,

oh my God. It was some of the best acting I've ever seen. Do you have to eat while you watch TV? I have to eat while I watch TV. Well, I'm usually stoned. I'm enjoying myself more. So it's like,

yeah, I mean, I feel like I can't enjoy television or food unless they're together. Yeah. Like when, when, when it comes on, like this past weekend i was

i looked at the clock and it was 9 50 and i was like oh my god i haven't heated anything up and i was like frantic that i needed to have food in front of me wow that was opening credits yeah yeah yeah it's so true it's so true i feel like um is that specific to our region do you think yeah it's a regional specific honestly the the title of the episode is that specific to our region do you think yeah it's very regional honestly the the title of the episode is regional specificity um so basically wait do you eat when you're in the movie theater though I almost always get popping corn no because then all I can think about is the popcorn I can't really focus on it is it's just like I love well I'm worried it's the do you ever hear Jacqueline novak's like um um routine

about sharing pizza how she'll never share because she's just like got her eye on like how many pieces everyone's had yeah yeah all i'm thinking about is like is there gonna be popcorn when i want it or is like someone else gonna finish it always get your own yeah but then if you get your own often what happens is like someone will be like no i don't want any and then you get popcorn and then they're like reaching over and you're like oh matt's the person getting the popcorn i'm the person who yeah says he doesn't need it yeah and then you eat it and then you get i mean we're about to go see power rangers tonight and i will get myself a popcorn and a big ass soda i'm getting my own food tonight don't worry but matt does a very bad job of hiding his spite, which is, I don't blame you.

No, that's fine. I'm bad at it too. I'm not a good sharer. Me neither. That's fine. I'm a good sharer with Henry. But I'm not a good sharer with anyone else. I'm not a good sharer with anyone, even people that I'm in love with.

There you go. I have, yeah. Yeah. Do you have siblings? I do. My sister Chelsea. Yeah, me too. I always had to share with my brother and now that. Younger brother? Yeah. Okay. Do you have siblings? I do. My sister Chelsea. Yeah, me too. I always had to share with my brother now that.

Younger brother? Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. So, did you always win the games that you would play? No. See, Chelsea and I played pretend all the time and I would always win. I was like that kind of disaster.

I was the kid who always got more as the younger child. And my sister sort of just built up this, just internalized that a lot. That's really interesting. But I was going to ask you about movies versus watching TV. Is it an environmental thing or does it have to do with the food you're eating? It's just environmental. Like if I watch a movie at home, then I also enjoy eating during that as well. But if someone else is there with you, like are you worried about someone reaching over for the bowl of like i don't know chips or something i don't like watching things with other people okay great

cool yeah i feel the same way yeah like when people are like i love watching rupaul's drag race in a bar full of gays i'm like no yeah i don't prefer yeah no i can i i get i respect and get why people say that yeah i'm not talking what I'm saying. I have the receipts. I think you've been quoted saying that you prefer to go to bars. I don't prefer to go to bars. Or that you don't like, it's not as fun watching it alone. No, you're thinking of Joel. But you emphatically agreed with him. I think that there are benefits to watching it with everyone.

But also, I also said, and this is true, I mean, routinely, I'll just watch rupaul's drag race every episode like three or four times i'm watching once at a bar because everyone's there once probably with henry once by myself and then once later on in the week when someone says they haven't seen it and i stop everything and what we're doing and we watch it you know what i mean and it's fine it's fun for me every time okay all right um speaking of rupaul's drag race cole you're watching this season i i haven't watched this last episode. Wait, is it online now?

You can watch it online. Well, this is like a controversy now because it used to be you could stream it right after on LogoTV.com. Right. But now it's airing on VH1. So do you have Amazon Prime? No, but... Oh, yeah, I do. So then just maybe buy the season.

Oh, but I also have Sling. So I have VH1, but I can only watch it live right so you're gonna i think what's happening is they're doing the new episodes on vh1 and the reruns are airing on logo okay oh so maybe i can catch it on logo i don't know if i have logo i don't know it's all a mess it used to be so easy because it would be on logo tv.com but now it's not yeah yeah maybe it's on netflix i don't know it's not no it's not i don't know they should do a better job of getting getting that out there because it's on fucking friday nights now yeah at time of recording guys um we're only after we're only past the first episode one

episode and you know we'll see hopefully hopefully it's it's promising okay let's move on to i don't think so let's do our i don't think so honey so here we go um first of all you guys thank you for uh making the live show i don't think so honey so here we go um first of all you guys thank you for uh making the live show i don't think so honey um las codas is live at littlefield such a success it was so fun there were so many people there it was yeah it was a blast yeah did you have fun i did great it was so fun that you know with all those fucking it was 50 fucking comedians yeah it was a real blast and i mean being in the, in the back room and just like real feel realizing who all was there. It was just very cool. It was,

it was a great. So thanks guys for coming out to that. And also you can listen to the live episodes on iTunes and all the platforms that we're on and, you know, like and subscribe and all that. Uh, guys, I don't think so.

Honey is 60 seconds to rail against something in culture. That's, you know, just, we feel, you know, just offending us. Yes. And it's our time to get it back. Yeah.

Take back the narrative on these things. And so what do you think, Bowen? Do you want to go first? I can go first. Do you have something prepared? I have something loosely prepared. Okay. I have something kind of specific prepared.

Okay, let's go. So this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. And his time starts right now. I Don't Think So honey standpipes on the fucking sidewalks of New York City honey I was walking down Lafayette a man was barreling towards me so I sidestepped him so that he I could get out of his way and as

I sidestepped him and stepped forward I grazed my shin on a standpipe and it cut through my jeans and I had sort of a it scratched me and slashed me pretty deeply oh my gosh so I spend the whole train ride home with a fucking open torn gene leg, honey. I don't think so, honey. And I thought I had tetanus, bitch.

And I had a scheduled doctor's appointment and I had to go and the doctor visually diagnosed me and looked me in the eyes and talked to me like I was a fucking idiot and said, no, you don't have tetanus. It has to be a deeper wound than that. And so I don't think so, honey. Standpipes are making me feel like a stupid hypochondria. 20 seconds left. I don't think so, honey. Doctors just being very me feel like a stupid hypochondria. 20 seconds left. I don't think so, honey.

Doctors just being very condescending with their visual diagnoses because can they really be 100% sure? I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. Doctors who think that their eyes are a fucking assay of a condition. Because I don't think so, honey. You did not. I don't care if you went to Johns Hopkins. I don't think so, honey.

Stand pipes on the sidewalk of New York City. I don't think so, honey, for hurting me and my reputation in the medical community. I don't think so, honey. Wow. That was loaded. You had something to say. Had a lot of messages there.

And you know what? I think I nailed all of them. Nothing better than feeling good about the way you've spoken out. And I got a little marble mouth at the end, but that's okay. I just want to say, originally I was going to do my

I don't think so, honey, about Sunset Boulevard. Let's just say this right now up front i've changed my mind um but i don't think so honey sunset boulevard is not actually a good show glenn close is good in it but andrew led weber i'm sorry honey you're kind of a mess sorry yeah i was kind of a mess okay but i have my i don't think so honey okay this is matt rogers i don't think so honey one minute time starts now i don't think so honey myself today it is tuesday you went to lunch and ordered two plenty marys that were ten dollars each you don't have the money for that bitch i don't think so honey and then you got immediately home and smoked weed and played video games bitch you're on a deadline and you

know this i don't think so honey bitch you have gone out to eat so many times in the past four days and i know your anniversary to your boyfriend boyfriend Henry of two years was two days ago. But bitch, stop celebrating yourself. You're just elongating this and you're just hurting yourself, bitch. I don't think so, honey. I know that food is good. But you know what? Take some of your time.

Take some of your energy. Use it towards creating and accruing more money so that you can go out for a nice dinner. Other times spread throughout the week because guess what, bitch? A, when you go out for a nice dinner and the food is good, it loses its meaning after this amount of volume times. So just do it for yourself. Also, B, bitch, again, you do not have the money. You have less than $800 in your bank account. And, bitch, you need to be more frugal, bitch.

Frugal, bitch. Hashtag frugal, bitch. Frugal, bitch. That's one minute. Has be more frugal bitch frugal bitch hashtag frugal bitch frugal bitch that's one minute hashtag frugal bitch I feel so brave that's historic never has an I don't think so honey been has there been an auto I don't think so honey aimed inward yes wow

wow an introspective I don't think so honey Cole are you ready I think so okay great um all right this is colas colas I don't think so. Okay, great. All right, this is Colas Colas, I Don't Think So Honey. One minute on the clock. Matt's sneezing. I sneezed four times. Apologies.

Good luck. God bless. All right, Coles, I Don't Think So Honey. Time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, the writers strike. The WGA writers strike. Oh my God. Look, I'm all for unions. I saw Sally Field in Glass Menagerie, Norma Rae, unions.

Yes, yes, yes yes but whoever they're striking against and frankly it's not my job to figure that out go on twitter figure it out but the wga i got my notes in front of me they're they're looking for streaming media residuals and and changes to pension and health plans and now there's going to be a strike well let me tell you what happened the last time there was a writer's strike last time there was a writer's strike reality tv came into fashion what happened with reality tv donald trump do you know who's our president president now i don't yeah that's not that's not a rhetorical question it's not up to you to know it's not up to me to know it's the onus is not on you no no so i i don't think so

honey uh writer's strike it needs to get figured out and i mean like too sweet because uh bitch i will run for office. And I will run as a Republican. And I will win. And I will gut this fucking country. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. You know what? I would vote for you in a fucking heartbeat, Cole.

Thank you. Would not vote down party lines. I would jump ship for Milo.2. Oh, my God. Cole Scola. Honestly, I'm scared about the writer's strike. Me too.

Because we're at such a good moment. I mean like, but also like, if they have good points, then. They do, but like,

it's the, I think everyone should just tweet at like, whoever it is they're striking against their negotiations. Yeah, just like, give them what they want.

They deserve it. Just give it to them. It's like the association of... Assholes. Of assholes. Oh, of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. So go on Twitter at A-M-P-T-P.

A-M-P-T-P. A-M-P-T-P. And just start harassing them. I didn't invent witch hunt culture, but I know how to use it. And it's time. Unless you want me as president. There you go. Sorry.

It is my name. Hashtag resist. Yeah. I mean, everyone get out there and let's. Get out the vote. Let's get this sorted out. Okay. Let's do things right this time.

What was the one good thing that came out of the 2007 writer's strike? I'm trying to think. Survivor? Survivor. You know what? There was a lot of bad things. A lot of really promising shows were dead in the water after that. It ruined Lost. Interesting.

It ruined a lot of shows. It made a lot of shows very confused and bad. That was like when network shows were big. I feel like now it's like with cable shows being big, it's not going to really interrupt the quality of shows too much because they can just say, okay, we'll take a break, and later on we'll resume this and it'll be fine.

But with network shows being big at that time, with 24 episode orders, it really kind of disturbed the narrative of a lot of shows. And I remember when shows came back, they were different. But episode orders were weird. You know what I think the writer's strike kind of helped uh with with um this is the series i think the writer's strike helped with was grace because the second half of season four of grace anatomy was very interesting this is very esoteric did we get kid nation from from the writer's strike was that born

during the writer's strike i'm not sure you're no but you're i don't know but you're 100 right about the kind of rise of reality TV. Because it had already reared its head. American Idol had already become number one. Survivor started everything. And then when there was an absence of those shows, it's true. When all those shows came in. I think that might have been when the Real Housewives first released.

It's just a dangerous seed being planted right now. This is like a Malcolm Gladwell-esque expository topic right here. That's amazing. Thank you, Cole. You're welcome. Wow. Well, this has been a great Gladwell expository topic right here that's amazing thank you Cole you're welcome wow well this has been a great episode of Lost Culture there's been so much culture brought to the forefront absolutely and thank you so much Cole a true I love you guys so much I love this show so much truly an icon to us

I mean and again like just you're so you it is your honor to see Cola Skola perform. So you should all go to the show on June 14th. June 14th. June 14th. Just Pub.

Help. I'm stuck. Which come on, that title. Thanks. You got to go. Fabulous. Fabulous.

Cole, we love you. Cool. We love you. People find you on social media at Cola Skola. He got, he got it. I got it.

He got it. Cause I tried to get at Cola Skola. Guys. Thank you so much. My name is Matt Rogers. My name is Bo Nyang. I got it. He got it. Because I tried to get at Cola Scola. Guys, thank you so much. My name is Matt Rogers. My name is Bo Nyang. Bye. Bye. Forever.

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