Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Phantom Hole" (w/ Krystyna Hutchinson & Corinne Fisher)

Episode Date: March 13, 2019

Krystyna Hutchinson and Corinne Fisher (Guys We F****d) join Matt and Bowen in the studio to discuss the Spice Girls feminism, sex conferences, celebrity ASMR, anal, romance in porn, and of course....the writing process!---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasLAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. We just... Our energy is fucking tired. Wait, what? We were like, ding dong. I thought it was okay.

Don't rate your energy off the top. No, no, no, no, no. Wait. Can I say I'm projecting because we were just talking about how we haven't been getting laid. Yeah. And that's sad. And so you're projecting onto your energy? I'm just saying like, okay, first of all, it was a late night last night.

Late night. And we were out having a nice time. Yes. And it felt like everyone in the world hooked up with us. Yes. Right? Yes. Yes, right.

It's not fair. Everyone at this bar we were at Kept fucking pairing off Yes And I was like Okay it's that kind of night And love was in the air And it made me feel like

I'm gonna catch the bug And I thought I was gonna Catch the bug too But hey I thought you were I thought I was getting All the bugs I thought you were getting

The bugs last night The bugs I thought you were getting Debugged And bugged Sorry Okay I thought you were getting debugged and plugged. Sorry. Okay, I thought we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about STDs and you're talking about plugs? No, I believe that's

an element of what I was talking about was STDs. But I did transition into talking about how I thought you were going to get plugged. You're famously someone who enjoys to bottom. Sure. Would you call yourself a famous bottom? I don't know if it's famous. I do.

I talk about... Yeah. I talk about getting toys all the time. Yeah. I don't get them all the time. I bought three dildos for a show that we did

for Queers Live at Joe's Pub. And did they serve a purpose afterwards besides theatrical? And I was just like, well, can't just make it theatrical.

No. Have to make it theatrical. No. Have to make it real. You have to clean those, though. Oh, I clean them. I get into the grooves. In hot water? Get into the grooves. Are yours the, wait.

What go? You have a lot of special toys. They're just standard silicone. Explain what the trainer dildo is. The trainer one is just not as girthy it's just it's like a smaller dick and it's perfect okay like i mean like whatever if i need if i need to like level up level up a girth class then like that's like um getting a new belt in karate absolutely so when you go up a notch in your girth belt. Right, right, right.

Well, anyway. Anyway. It didn't even matter last night. Didn't even matter last night. Speaking of anal, one of our guests had some last night. Anal? And I am so proud of her. And we need to get into this.

Well, we do need to get into this. You know, this is the thing. This is inspired. This. But this is inspired. But this is inspired. This whole intro conversation is inspired. It's inspired. But, like, our guests, I mean, like, this is, like, just me, like, checking my own, like, whatever, pearls. Checking your pearls.

But, like, when I listen to these two people just, like, talk so openly, it's so refreshing. I'm like, yes, this should be how it always is. Well, that's why it's a revolution, babe. It's a revolution, babe. That's why it's fucking iconic. It's fucking iconic. That's why it's one of the biggest podcasts out there. In the universe.

In the universe. As Omarosa would say, in the universe. The most powerful podcast. The most powerful podcast. In the universe. the most powerful anti the most powerful anti-slamming podcast in the universe slaming anti-slamming when you when you're a slut shamer we just cut right to the fucking trees and call you a slammer you're a slammer because you are not worth two or a ton if you're a slamer That is the worst thing you can call someone

100% the worst thing you can call someone You're a fucking slamer And I see you And you get the fuck out of this bar Before I fucking clock you I would never slame And look the thing is like I love everyone last night who got late

We're not slaming I'm not slaming Slamming is worse than murder. Slamming is the worst thing you could do. You go to prison for slamming. It's treason. It's like this. Slamming, treason, murder.

Is murder worse than treason? Murder is not worse than treason. I think treason is probably the worst. Treason is like the bad one. It's not slamming. It's not slamming. Anyway, so listen. Here's the deal.

We have two fucking fabulous guests. I fucking love them. And they are the hosts of Guys We Fucked. Okay? They're the comedy duo. Sorry about last night. Mm-hmm. Y'all, they have books and shit. Like, that is, like, aspirational.

Imagine having a book. That is one of the things I want. That is one of the things you want. We should talk. We should talk. Oh, I would love to talk about this with them. Okay. Can we talk?

Can we candidly talk at some point, you and I, about a book? I think you and I can have that conversation. And not me reading another book because you know that's a challenge. Bitch, in order to write a book, you have to read a book.

I believe that's untrue. Okay. Well, please. We'll have a discussion about it. I'm truly so excited, thrilled to have our guests. Please give a welcome in your ears

to our guests, Corinne Fisher and Christina Hutchinson. Yay! I mean, that was magical to watch. I loved witnessing your magic so bad.

I love it. You know, I realized the energy I'm not as tired, the energy I'm in is dropped in. I'm dropped in. I'm so horny.

Yeah. Who did the anal? I did. Christina. You did? Like, hardcore anal. Wow!

Yeah, like he was on top, we were like facing each other. Yes! Oh, wow. I did. You did? Like hardcore anal. No. Yeah. And I was like. He was on top. We were like facing each other. Yes. Oh, wow. And at first he put it in my pussy and I was like, should I tell him that's the wrong hole? Because he's like, oh, let's do anal.

Yeah. Okay. And then I did it. And I was like, that's my pussy. And then we both laughed. And then he put it. And then I put it in my butt. Right.

And then I went, man, oh, man. Man, oh, man. Pound town. Went to pound town. Went. You've both done anal before. Yes. Yes. Man, oh, man. Man, oh, man. Pound town. Went to pound town. Went. You've both done anal before. And are we fans generally of the stuff? I am with this person, yes.

With this person? With this person. It depends on the person. Depends on the person. Depends on how he moves. Depends on the penis. Yes. The curve.

The curvature. The size. The weight. You know, he's not too rough. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. I need a trainer dildo.

I love it. I will sing the praises a trainer dildo. I love it. I will sing the praises of trainer dildos till the day I die. I mean, I did so much butt stuff last night. That's so fascinating. I had my fingers right up his ass. Yes. Is this the guy?

Cause when we were on your show a few weeks ago, you, you said that you had started dating someone and he had, and his butt was unknown to him. His butt was unknown. And he, this is him. He never had a finger up his butt and he just let me do it. He him his butt was unknown and he this is him he never had a finger up his butt and he just let me do it he goes what do you want to do to me do it and he didn't even flinch i'm like what a g oh my god i love yeah honestly i i've like fell in love

with him when he let me finger his butthole and didn't flinch that's beautiful yeah i mean that's that's love yeah i agree we do say i love you it's really really yeah but like we're not exclusive but it's fun i agree it's a weird thing but that's love though yeah right it's conversion did he say did he say i love you when your finger went into his butt no that would have been fucking there's a whole feature film in that yes i think there's a scientific study film in that. Yes, I think. There's a scientific study in that. What if my finger went in his butt and it came out and there was a ring on it?

That's. That's the movie. That's the movie. That's how the movie ends. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's the best puzzle in the world. I do.

That stars Robbie Malek and Jessica Chastain. Yes. That stars. That stars Darren Criss. I love Darren Criss. We love him. that stars Rami Malek and Jessica Chastain yes that stars that stars Darren Criss I love Darren Criss we love him we love Darren do we know Darren Criss

I mean I think he's hot and he's great I mean not in real life yeah right so okay so we can talk candidly about the bitch alright

so now he's you know what Darren Criss comes out and says now he's not gonna do any more gay parts he's not gonna do any gay parts why after he's done them all, what Darren Criss comes out and says now. He's not going to do any more gay parts. He's not going to do any gay parts. Why?

After he's done them all. I've decided to no longer be gay. Okay, cool. Wait, like he's not going to be gay anymore? He's not going to play gay roles. No, he's straight. He's straight. And so he won't.

Oh, I didn't know that. He's like one of the notorious ones for playing all the gay parts. Oh, because people don't like that. Because you only can play exactly. So like I can only play a cunt in film. That's it. In the breakdown. Because you only can play exactly. So, like, I can only play a cunt in film. Yeah. That's it. In the breakdowns, you can only play that.

Yeah. It says cunt. But it's not fair if a non-cunt plays a cunt. Yeah. You know? It's bad representation. Well, it's just not going to be as good. Yeah.

It's not going to be authentic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen. Come on. Cunt appropriation. We don't need that. No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. Let C's be C's. I'm so scared to say it. I can say it cunt. No, you can't. Cunt. Cunt. Cunt. What? I can't say it? I don't want that no let's seize be seized I'm so scared to say it I can say it cunt no you can't cunt cunt cunt what I can't say it I don't want to say it

I think gay men can say it I think we can call we can call each other it you can call anything a cunt I know if it's your good friend and also I think it's how you say it

it's just like cunt yeah you know if you're like you're a cunt or like hey cunt it's whimsical sure well it

belongs in in the community and in your community in the cunt community our community our community well faggot belongs to us and i feel like anyone else's faggot i'll be like oh but you just said earlier we can call each other c's and I was like but each other you're not including yourself in that population God look we need a full breakdown of words where they all belong to us all they all belong to us all look

you were going to say something it's love if the finger is in the ass well let's just break it down to this I feel like if you get to the point where you're enjoying anal fully with someone, you gotta hang on to that. I know. Right? That's rare.

He's in my bed right now. And Christina and I have a... I was like, what's the over-under on him being there when you go back? Because you were like, he might... I don't know what's gonna happen. I left him a note. No text, a note. Handwritten.

Yep. Handwritten on an index card. I'm coming. And I put a travel toothbrush and toothpaste on the note because it's at the top of my staircase. Oh, my God. Okay. Can I say something? I'm pretty cute.

There's joy emanating from you. Yeah. There is. Yo, I just had anal and enjoyed it. So I am very joyful. Honestly. You know what's also enjoyable? Having anal and then being like, not having that again.

Okay. Is that where you're at? Your experience? No, I mean, listen, I used to have anal like semi-frequently years ago when I was in college. Beautiful. And then you get older and you're like, oh, I just don't have to ever do anything I don't want to do. Oh, absolutely. It's fine.

It reminds me of the Carrie Bradshaw episode. I just call it Carrie Bradshaw. The show, Carrie Bradshaw. The Carrie Bradshaw show. She's why we're all tuning in. And she was just like, you know, when she's like, oh, it's on the menu. I don't always order it.

But sometimes, I mean, she wasn't talking about anal, I don't think, but she might have been. That's how I feel about it. Like it's on the menu. Sometimes I'll have it. It's on the menu sometimes I'll have it it's not my favorite thing to order but it just seems like it's on this trajectory

where it was like speaking of sex in the city like the whole Miranda episode where it's like she gets her ass ate and it's like what please but now yeah it's like come on that's small ball but back in the late 90s early early aughts like it probably seemed

scandalous I guess that's when they were first discovering eating the butt or at least eating the butt and talking about it yeah I rewatched

Sex and the City and I realized Carrie's very coy about sex she does not talk about it openly right and SJP refused

in her contract to do top lipsticks yeah right and we're like that's why we like you her titties are just like boing boing in that ballerina outfit i love that she always did have like um clothed a lot of clothed sex honestly that this is not my i don't think so honey but i don't think so honey

clothed sex in films it's like that is not how we do it and also you don't have sex with the covers on you like yeah oh my god no i never do i sometimes i like having sex with the covers on you. Like, right? Oh my God. No, I never do. Sometimes I like having sex with a bra on because it makes my boobs look pretty good. I see. Right, I see, I see, I see. I have this question for people with boobs. Post coitus, are you,

if you have a sheet or a towel or whatever, I mean like if it's just you and the other person in the room, are you wrapping your thing over your breasts? No. Right? I'm leaning on him and my boobs are just against his back. Perfect. Skin on skin.

Let's say you're going up to get a book off a shelf. I always read after a fuck. I'm so glad you totally called me out on that man. Don't you? Yeah, don't you, Corinne? I read Entertainment Weekly After I fuck I pull out my rags

I have a first edition of The Pearl And I go get it and I read it First edition of The Pearl That's why it's there That's beautiful I read Infinite Jess Let's go around the table Ideal postcoitus activity.

Smoke weed. Yeah. I was just going to say that. After? Yeah. And watch something dumb. Yeah. Or eat.

I love food. Yeah. Eating a sandwich, but it has to be like specific, like a big sandwich on like a Portuguese roll. Like I need a lot of carbs. Specific, but I like it.

I need to reload. Like I just did a marathon. Yes. And you did do a marathon. Yeah. Sex is hard. It's a lot of work. Yeah. Sex is I like it. I need to reload. Like, I just did a marathon. Yeah. You did do a marathon, essentially. Sex is hard. It's a lot of work. When you're on top, I had to take a break. I'm like, my legs hurt.

I just gotta stop. Can you fuck me now? Yeah, cramps are a real thing. Yeah. I don't yet know what to do with my abdomen. I'm like, that's a tough one. If I'm on top, then it's like, it's a tough, that's a tough one.

If I'm on top that it's like, I'm just like, it feels like a fucking lurch. I'm like, like the physicality being presented at this moment. I truly wish this

were an audiovisual experience. I wish podcasts were a visual medium right now. People at home, yeah, that's it. It's just like, it's a dog barking,

but imagine like your body moving to that. So this is when you're, so this is when you're topping? Are you talking about? No, this. It's just like, it's a dog barking, but imagine like your body moving to that. So this is when you're, so this is when you're topping? Are you talking about? No, this is when I'm like, I'm in control. Oh, from the bottom? From, as a bottom.

Oh, you're doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's why, okay, because, oh, that was so fun. The advantage, the advantage of butt sex is that you can't see each other's abdomens, you know? Sometimes you can. But when you do it, I had butt sex face to face.

But you're a gal. This is a common misconception. You can look at each other right in the old eyes. That's how I prefer it. Oh, me too. I actually, I don't like the, I feel very impersonal the whole like, I can't see your face. Right. Well, that's what I was thinking

and that's why I liked it um but like even in gay porn I've watched some gay porn and I is that common to see that in gay porn because I usually see not face to face I'm gonna give you some sites can you send me yeah I've seen guys I like face to face it's very sweet yeah and this is my thing with gay porn I scrub right to the parts where they're looking into each other's fucking eyes I need romance who's horny for eye contact honestly there's these porn stars

there's these porn stars and they're a couple and you can see the video where they met and you can basically watch them fall in love I'm not lying it's Carter Dane and Alex Mecham. Mecham.

Mecham. It's his last name. But their Instagram is like, having an amazing time with my lover in Paris. They say lover? They do. They say things like that. They met in a fucking war zone set or something.

They met in a Justice League porn parody. That's where they met in a they met in a like a justice league porn parody like that's where they met we're at the aclu meeting oh my god that's what we need more socially woke porn scenarios oh yeah if you're gonna make a plot yeah come on make it real educational they should do a gay cis gay male porn set at the women's march wouldn't that be fun yeah while we're marching we'll just march around just put the bed in the street and we'll march around it like you're walking down with your sign and like you make eyes and then the next

scene is just like you like grabbing your dick and going in place and putting your sign down and just fucking and like going into city md and fuck it city md I was at a sex convention a couple months ago And there were like cam girls

But they just had booths like it was fucking Comic Con where there was a Mattress on the floor and they were just like Masturbating in the middle But it just looked very sad Oh yeah it's too sad Yeah cause it's like on concrete Someone's trying to sell

Like a crystal to put up your pussy next to you. Like I, I was like, I need to go. Wait, wait, wait. What was, where was this?

It was a sex convention in Brooklyn. Yeah. Did you have a booth? Uh, absolutely not. No, Corinne would never have a booth. Any like,

no, I went, I walked through this. I go, you know what? This is not for me. And then they had some puppies that I mean we're definitely being abused but you could pay a dollar

to spend some time with them did the dollar go to the puppies or who no no no no it went to the person also selling costume jewelry but I was like maybe I can make these puppies lives brighter for a moment if only for mere minutes

yeah what do I think about the memory span of a dog because my fucking mom is like she really she really thinks that dog knows who she is um they do because when you come home oh have you ever gotten in a youtube black hole of um soldiers coming home to their golden retrievers

because they remember they remember years later they remember they remember people by scent but as far as time like yeah I can go downstairs and like get a can of Diet Coke and then come back upstairs. Yeah. And my dog will act like I've been gone for five days. Right, right, right. That's the way I want a dog. All right.

So you did make an impact on those dogs. I did. It was heroic. Well, dogs talk to Corinne. I see it. They come up to her and like talk. Oh, my God. Do you have a connection with them? Yeah. Well, I was a Corinne. I see it. They come up to her and like talk. Oh my God. You have a connection with them?

Yeah. Well, I was a dog in a past life, but my mom said, please stop saying that because you're never going to find a husband. But I'm committed to it. Well, what breed would you have been? What did you think you were? I don't, I didn't go that deeply into the breed, but not like a, like a Dalmatian, like a Chinese hairless, like one that like, you're like, I don't want to really be near it, but they're rare.

Yes, that's that's everything you just said is me. Chinese hairless. I don't want to be near them, but rare. But they're rare. You are rare. You are born in a past life. I like a Chinese hairless. Yeah, they're purebred, though.

So like my dog's like a whippet mix, but he's very fast. So that's not me. That's not you. And like always in a great great mood but has a real attitude problem honestly he sighs i don't know i've seen i've heard him sigh once like yeah he almost goes like shit i like this bitch you get a dog because you it's what it's something that's breathing and living that doesn't sigh oh i think it's hilarious that he sighs. Like, he's like, he's cunty to some people. And I like, out of all the women in New York, you had to walk into my rescue.

Yeah, I know. This is very bad. My kennel. Real irritated. I want to go back to the sex convention thing. So at what point are you like, I don't know. I can't get on. Well, it's not that you're judging.

You're not judging, like, the cam girl on the mattress necessarily. I'm not judging her. I just wish she had a I can't get on. Well, it's not that you're judging. You're not judging the cam girl on the mattress necessarily. I'm not judging her. I just wish she had a... I am. Get a bed frame. Come on. Get a bed frame. You're judging the setup.

Yeah, I wish she had a better setup because I think if you're in a sex-positive environment, I shouldn't be getting tears welling in my eyes. Totally. If you're in a sex-positive environment... Especially when you're not trying to evoke tears. Yeah. Right. If they're trying a sex positive environment. Especially when you're not trying to evoke tears. Yeah. Right. If they're trying to sell something then package it nicely.

I don't care what you're selling. I'm willing to check it out. But don't make it look so bleak. Yeah. The other day I was on porn.com I was going to say what? The other day I was in porn. Me. Yes. It's true. No. I was actually porn me yes it's true No I was And I was actually I was watching cam guys

I gotta do that They're mostly straight which I kinda like Oh I've never seen that Like they're straight guys They're straight guys that are It depends on the site you're on If you wanna fuck them and it's like Wait I wanna watch that

Honestly it's like these bro. They call you out by your username. No, no, no. Well, I don't have a username, but I was watching.

I was, you know how like you can like, it's like, it's like they upload the videos that they record onto these porn sites. And then it's people messaging them. And they're like, I guess jacking off and talking back yeah

but they're basically like you know having like computer sex with everyone and they make money they make coins dollars oh man

but I didn't know that you can go you can just go and be a voyeur to cam people even when it's happening in real time yeah

because you can just one time I like our friend Lena the plug does camversity and so I just clicked on it because I was curious even though i feel uncomfortable watching people i know do it right and i was like oh i'm just in the room i don't have to pay or log it in yeah yeah you can just watch it it's weird it's family style yeah the olive garden but it's also like a

lot of it because like they're on there for like so long a lot of it is just like watching her eat grilled chicken and asparagus on a plate in like a hot way or in a regular way no just in a regular way she's like

hey guys before I get into what I have to eat I'm so sorry I'm so hungry I need my legumes yeah it's just living their life

watch when it becomes like a cooking a sensation like Camgirl slash like slash like fucking

Ina Garten type some of these ASMR people though on YouTube that freaks me out I can't make so much money and all they do

is they just talk and they're just like they do like the girlfriend experience the boyfriend experience where they're like how was your day oh

I felt like assaulted a little it's it's crazy and like it's they're these like 19 year old people who are just like just being like coquette coquette coquette and it's crazy watch that i that's something i've

never gotten into but you seem knowledgeable on the subject and you know what was my gateway was fucking cardi b did this asmr video for that. And she's amazing at it. Really? She clearly knows. She knows her stuff, and she knows what the triggers are, and she taps her nails on this baby toy. She's seen the videos before because she's mimicking. Because other celebrities do it. They're kind of dicking around.

Cardi's like, and in the video she's like, She takes it seriously. She's like, I'm not going to do the whisper, but she was like, my husband thinks it's very weird, but I watch ASMR every single night. And it's like, oh, so she like is into it. But like I watched that. Then I start – I fell into this rabbit hole of ASMR people who have millions of subscribers. They make mad bucks.

Mad bucks. And they're like, okay, this next one is me tapping my fingernails on this shampoo bottle. This is Vidal Sestoune. I've gotten a lot of requests. Why do they describe it? Well, they describe it because they're like. Just do it, bitch. Because they're like, I've gotten a lot of requests for this bottle.

They love the lacquer on this bottle. Wow. Everyone gets fucking crazy on it. Oh, my God. And is it about, is it for masturbational purposes for some people it's about calming and relaxation some people it's about feeling like they have a significant other

like girlfriend experience, boyfriend experience for some people they do just jack off to it I'm gonna do all three yeah I can see that happening I'm a phantom dick right now oh my god yeah and you have phantom prostate

yeah I have phantom butthole phantom dick in the butthole you don't actually have a butthole in real life but now you do phantom butthole phantom butthole is actually what they were going to call phantom thread and they changed the script

and Daniel Day-Lewis is like, I will not do this. It's Phantom Butthole. It's Phantom Butthole. Would you, I'm like, would I do well at ASMR? I think you would. I think you're really into it. I see your glow. I think you guys would.

You could definitely do it. You have to be careful, though, because it's real quick when you can just veer off into like sound effects for a feature film. Yeah, like Foley. You're in boots walking through like a stoned river. Kip-klop, kip-klop. You're doing Foley now. There's a fine line between like

ASMR performer, I guess, and Foley artist. Yeah, totally. But then like that's like a path to an Oscar. Absolutely. That's really what it is. These ASMR people are just young talents trying to figure it out in this industry. What was your gateway to Hollywood? ASMR. They're self-taping for Foley.

Wait, so there's a YouTube thing where celebrities do this and Cardi B participated in it? It's W Magazine and I think it's a brilliant idea to have celebrities. I think they give them two fluffy I'm already Are they tricking celebrities into doing sex work? Because that's what it seems. I mean, Cardi B's already done a reality show. Great, she loves it. Trick celebrities into doing sex work because that's what it seems I mean

great she loves celebrities we watch the Masked Singer the other night you believe the show Masked Singer what is this okay I know about it but I didn't watch it yet so I'm curious to hear you guys's professional

culture opinion on it literally okay so this is our professional culture opinion on it. And literally, okay, so this is our professional culture opinion on it. We watched it, and it's so stupid. Literally, basically. Christina doesn't know what it is. So what it is is. It's exactly the title. It's celebrities are in full costumes.

They're completely masked, and they're in these stupid things like a rabbit costume, an alien costume, like a bee costume. Like Times Square-esque costumes? Very that. Like a parrot someone was like, what? Just like crazy. One of them was like a Spongebob type thing. And it was just like, so basically they get paired off and we can't see the celebrity

but before they perform, they give hints and clues as to what celebrity they are in real life. And apparently we're to believe they're like A-list celebrities. Quote unquote. That's what I was wondering. I was like what caliber of celebrity is Dwayne West? They would say A-list but of course when any of this show says A-list

they literally mean like Joey Fatone. And Joey Fatone very well it could be one of the actual singers. Joey Fatone who I one time walked next to in Universal Studios Florida and not a soul knew it was him and I was like literally this man was one of the biggest pop stars in the world and he

is fully here with his family and no one gives a shit. No one cares at all. In fact I'm the only person who even notices. And he's not like a small person. He's very tall. No you notice him. You notice him. And so anyway there are some rumors that he is one of the singers because a lot of the clues were really leaning into that.

So you really don't know who the singers are. You don't know. So what happens is. Just think of who's always available. Right. It's the same bunch. What happens is. It's the same reality show circuit.

They get paired up. Absolutely. And then the celebrity judges, which are fucking Jenny McCarthy, Nicole Scherzinger. Robin Thicke. Ken Jeong. And Robin Thicke. What? Who apparently we're still permitting to like.

Yeah, I was like, didn't we say no we said no yeah I thought he went inside it's actually real culture number 48 Robin Thicke we said no fucking Paula Patton shit is unforgivable anyway but like basically like this is the judging panel and they after the singers

perform like stupid songs like this the like rabbit performed live and love you to loca and he ended up winning and so then when you lose your round you're at risk of getting eliminated and every episode someone gets eliminated and they reveal who they are

any shockers so far Tommy Chong and the one before that was like an ex-athlete I didn't know who it was did they get money or a prize or like just Chin Chong. And the one before that was like an ex-athlete. Like people. I didn't know who it was. Did they get money or a prize or like just first place? They all want to be singers, I guess.

Yeah, because I was like, so non-singers are singing. I thought we were guessing the voice of people who are singers. Joey Fatone's not really a singer. Well, I think it's both because Joey Fatone, like it was like singing, but it wasn't singing. You know what I mean? It was like, you it wasn't singing You know what I mean It was like It was like You definitely Are singing this And then The girl

Money money money That was Joey Oh yeah Cause he literally said The end of his clue clip was And you know That at the end of the competition One person's gonna be standing

And it's gonna be me So you're like Oh it's gonna be me It's gonna be me it has to be oh so the clue okay oh my god it was really and actually the the judges were like i think it's um they think it's lance bass no i don't think it is but can lance sing lance can sing right he actually was the he was the base of the group oh but lance is a lot shorter than joey i mean are they wearing stilts because otherwise we can tell by height. Oh, wow.

That's really good. Lance, I've met Lance in person. He's a little guy. Yeah. Very nice. I think they pad out the costumes, too. So it's like you can't really tell by body shape. And it's truly wild.

But we're watching it and we're just like, this is like, this feels like a fake TV show. You can't believe this is where we're at. Yeah, in a Christopher Guest movie. You can't believe this is where we're at. Like, we were watching it with our friend's studio and we were like, okay, this is entertainment. The world will end. It's like, this is where we're at in a Christopher Guest movie you can't believe this is where we're at like we were watching it with our friend Studio and we were like okay this is entertainment

the world will end this is the apocalypse this is the apocalypse this is what happens when you have 87,000 channels yeah Jesus Christ you need content

you need to stunt so much content it's insane it's insane but anyway I don't know what my point with this was I think the cultural opinion

that we have on it is I mean like we watched it it was there it was there i mean it allowed it entertained us i we did fast forward to i wanted to see who just one of the celebrities were it's tommy chong it was tommy chong which is a good one it was good it was good i mean my mom would be excited yeah it's so funny though because the first guy that they revealed like this football player athlete whatever, you could tell the judges,

like Nicole Scherzinger was like, oh, oh, oh, I knew it. Like, oh, it's you. It's like no one fucking knows who this is. Oh my God. That's great. Wow. Also, I have to say it on the pod.

What? Nicole Scherzinger is the doppelganger of Patty Harrison. Of Patty Harrison or from Patty Harrison. Do you know Patty Harrison? She looks like Nicole Scherzinger is the doppelganger of Patty Harrison. Do you know Patty Harrison? She looks like Nicole Scherzinger. It's crazy. They're the same. Now we're getting into culture. Should we ask the question?

We're going to ask the question. We asked this to all of our guests. Let's start with Corinne. We asked our guests, what was the culture that made you say culture is for me? Which just means what was the thing that was formative for you when me which just means that uh which just means what was the thing that like was formative for you when you grew up culturally like it could be it could be a book a movie a tv show a neighborhood like some place you grew up a person in your life like

there was something that was formative i mean for me it has to be the spice girls yeah i was thinking this i was like i think mine might be the spice girls i had changed mine it's huge for everyone and that's amazing answer yeah i mean it I mean, the Spice Girls and also, I mean, like I thank them in the front of our book. I thank the Spice Girls and my mom. Oh, yeah.

Because I truly think the Spice Girls had like such an impact on who I am and I always think about like my whole life I just wanted to be a Spice Girl

and I kind of became one. Like you think of, if you think of it very like just by exactly what they did. Oh, I am not a singer and I'm not a dancer. But like what was the essence of being a spice girl? It's like being a woman in charge of

your own body saying what you want to say putting friends over relationships. I'm like I became a spice girl. I did what I wanted to do. They were talking about feminism early to they were I remember like they mentioned it often in their songs and it's definitely in the movie.

Like, yeah. And like they were like, I'm very into the branding of feminism because everything has to be branded because it is, if you want people to be on board, you got to sell it to them. And I think there's a lot of bad branding and in feminism,

but those Spice Girls made it really palatable basically and fun and not too serious, but they stood up for themselves in a way that you're like, i can get behind this totally loved it did you identify with one more than the other oh yeah i was uh i was posh spice from day one talks the least but when she does it's like she hits it yeah yeah honestly there's nothing i think that posh spice gives the standout performance in spice world by far yeah i really do and there's nothing fun think that Posh Spice gives the standout performance in Spice World by far yeah I really do and there's nothing

funnier to me it is my entire comedic sensibility what is when they all get on that like product adventure course and you just see Posh walk

slowly on the side just like not doing it she does what she wants to do I love that I thought it was the funniest thing I was like nine

I was like this is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen. And also her line reads of when they fall off the boat to that My Boy Lollipop song. And she goes, this dress is dry clean. Only Melanie. Shut up, Jerry.

She's just like literally hits all. You're right. She speaks the least. But when she speaks, it is right. I like it too. But when she's driving the bus, she's like, Sunday drivers. I like that one. And then when they cut from the actual bus to the little toy bus,

because they're like, that's going to be expensive. Not necessarily. I just love it so much. It's funny. And also, this is the line I was thinking of. They go, they're in the hospital. She goes, I spy with my little eye something blue and they go hospital and and posh goes shut up jerry

i was like i fucking love this movie because it seemed like they're real it seemed like they had that chemistry yeah and it's like great god that is that ever gonna happen again like with we're like where a huge worldwide sensation band does like a scripted movie. Scripted though. Right. It was in the spirit of Hard Day's Night, right? Totally, totally, totally.

But actually, critically, Hard Day's Night was not very well received. And Spice World, I think a lot of people were like, that was kind of good. Because it's very British. I got the bootleg VHS that I wore at the flea market. And that's how I saw it. And it's fun.

I went to a screening a couple of years ago in Manhattan with a bunch of people reliving their childhood. And it was great. Didn't somebody give you a Spice Girls banner at one of our shows? Yeah. Someone had a huge vinyl thing printed and they drove it in. From like hours away. Oh my God. And they just give it hours away oh my god didn't bring it to the show because they're like we didn't know we would if we would be allowed in and i was like i

mean we're not banning spice girls banners from the show anything free ticket yeah oh my god so they came back and i was like oh yeah and i mailed it home to myself and it's in my closet i just i mean that can't be thrown away yeah i don't know what I'm doing with it, but. What did it say on it? It was just. It's just a huge vinyl of the, them, one of the movie promo pics with them over that glittery Union Jack dress. I think I know that picture. Oh, they were so iconic. Like, that Union Jack dress is forever.

That's a part of history. That's a part of culture. Mm-hmm. I, like, babies, like, little pigtails. Those were. They were styled impeccably just like that is like a hair moment yeah for like for

all time and their shoes I mean Steve Madden started making those shoes those platform shoes I still have them I mean platforms are also way better for you speaking of feminism because you're not you're not hurting your knees you're just higher

favorite song do you have one yeah I mean I think say you'll be there to me is the strongest because you're not hurting your knees because you're just higher. Favorite song? Do you have one? Yeah, I mean, I think Say You'll Be There to me is the strongest song. It builds so well. Say You'll Be There is incredible. I also think the irreverence of Wannabe is just like, wow.

Like that was truly written in a moment of like, let's write something fun. That's what I'm saying. I love that. Kooky, fun. It's like, let's write something fun. That's what I'm saying. I love that. Kooky, fun. It's like, it didn't have to, I mean,

I'm sure like it had sign up from like all these fucking label people, but it's like, now it's like, you gotta get really, you gotta have, you gotta be in your imperial phase in order to put out something.

To do something that, outside the box. That was their first thing out the gate. It was like, kooky, fun, different, like timeless. Beloved. Beloved it anytime it comes on oh yeah well rolling stone did some kind of a survey and wannabe is the second uh most like you can hear the least of it and people can uh name what it is

so like you can hear like five seconds of it or something and there's only one song that people can identify faster than Wannabe. What is it? Do you know? I don't know. I think three was Eye of the Tiger. I can't remember what one was. One might have been something crazy like Mambo No. 5 or something.

You know what I would guess? And this is kind of crazy. We are the champions. Oh, sure. Well, actually, it's not about iconic. If it's iconic or not it's about recognizable within a snippet like that's what I'm saying but for wannabe it's like

like you're like that's wannabe like I feel like the chord the chords or something or if it's the track from the actual album it's the heels oh god yeah that's iconic too also I have to say underrated well not underrated

it's one of their biggest hits but Two Become One Two Become One I love that song Two Become One when they did their reunion remember when they went

back on a tour the first time like in 2007 I was there baby you did I was there the first time I was there the second time I'll probably have to

fly to the UK for this time I think I might go I would love to go I would love to see them I want to see them very badly I remember they performed

To Become One on Struckly Come Dancing and again, incredibly well styled. They have these amazing hats. They were dressed like they were in the video and I was like,

this is such a fun remembrance of this and you listen to the lyrics and they were talking about using condoms. They were talking about safe sex. Put it on,

put it on. In pop music. Yeah. In the 90s. And you know that actually I think maybe predates Sex and the City by a couple years Salt-N-Pepa was before

right before cause that was the first song I ever heard that was like oh shit you can like stand up to yourself and also TLC Ain't Too Proud to Beg that was a big one too to become one is like one of the best fucking songs, baby making songs.

And I think fucking, wait, no, no, no, no, no. To Become One is the music video where they're all over New York, right? Yes. Yes. And Emma and baby is like. She's got a beautiful voice too. Well, they record, they shot it

and then they like shot it at double speed. They slow motioned it so that it's like, the city is like zooming by around them shot it at double speed they slow motioned it so that it's like the city is like zooming by around it but they're just like slow motion floating it's so good

yeah no they were amazing and you know who you know who like put them together and packaged them Simon Cowell no Simon Fuller

Simon Cowell released a book like years ago like when I was really drinking the American Idol Kool-Aid I bought Simon Cowell's book and I read it god damn that's some good kool-aid strong shit i love simon cowell honestly he he talks a lot about like when the spice girls first hit and he said that

it's like that it was like this undeniable thing like everyone in the industry like they heard wannabe before everyone else and then it was like the next day everyone heard it and it was like this moment in time where everyone can remember i i have this with one other artist i remember where i was when i found out about britney spears because it caught like fire i remember one day i didn't know who she was the next day it was baby one more time and everyone was like did you see britney spears and i was like whoa and that he talks about that in the book too because interestingly enough tlc turned down the song um baby one more time oh and that was like a song that they had in the industry and this art this artist britney spears um ended up with it and simon callit in the book or like in

some interview that i read was like he was he couldn't believe that like this unknown artist was getting baby one more time and the person that that was working with her i forget who it was was like no you don't understand like it has to go to this artist it has to go to this artist to britney to britney yes and simon was like well who is it and they said her name is britney spears and simon was like well you know you going to have a hit with this artist named Britney Spears. And then like, just from the name alone, that sounds like something. And then you hear the song and the

iconic, which I bet is on that list too. Oh my God, I just got chills. And then you're just like, there is something in the name though. Britney Spears. It's like, okay, you're like, I want to know more. That's iconic. I remember the place. I remember where I was too. I was in my living room in Canada, lying on my stomach. My sister put it on. I was like, who is this? Took the album cover. I remember the moment

that I looked at the cover and looked at her in that outfit, just like legs. I'm like, oh, I, I'm on board. Yes. Yeah. I have to, I have to own that album now. Yeah. I was like, I know that's, that's crazy. Spice Girls were like that. Yeah. Cause I don't now yeah I was like I know that's that's crazy Spice Girls were like that yeah because I don't remember where I was when I heard Baby One More Time but I absolutely I remember the moment the whole scenario when I the first time I heard Wannabe because I had like I guess it was Z100 that I had on and I would always have that on while I was doing my homework I was doing homework at this little like tea table I had in my bedroom and it was I mean it was like a movie like I like dropped my pencil and I got up and I went over and I mean you don't have Shazam at the time but I was like what is this yeah who is this yeah what is happening and I couldn't stop thinking about

I went to school the next day I'm telling everyone about it I'm like guys no no no you need have you heard this song because this is this is the new thing, okay? Wow. This is going to change all of our lives. When you listen to it, you feel like you're tasting something. You know what I mean? It's just- It fills every pore. It's a great pop song.

Did you fucking- I would read the liner notes. Oh, me too. Yeah. I was so- Okay, so I was so crazy. I remember one time I was rehearsing for a play in high school, and this is when Forever came out uh which is

the album that no one listened to it sold like literally like 26,000 copies which in comparison to record sales for the first two it's like like I can sell 26,000 copies of it out like in bed um so like truly I think we sold more books than they did album like that's real it's real bad so I would have I have a process where yeah I was rehearsing a play it was going really sold more books than they did albums. It's real bad. That's fun. Congrats, guys. So I have a process where I was rehearsing a play. It was going really badly. Everyone was calling because I needed to get to rehearsal. And I said, oh, I'm sorry.

I guess you didn't hear because not a lot of people did that. Forever came out today. And so I had to listen to the whole album once in silence in my room. And then I listened to it again immediately after while reading the liner notes. And that was my process for any album

that I really cared about. How you could get off book. Wow. Oh my God. We say whenever there's like a new pop star album out, like, are you guys off book? Are we off book on Thank U, Next?

That's crazy. Are you? And then like, there's some good songs off of Forever, though. Holler. I sang, do you want to know something?

At my high school graduation, I sang with three other girls goodbye by the spice girls goodbye and it was my idea it's a beautiful song and the videos and it's all it's snowy it makes me think i love it so we're also forgetting about our friend ariel he's a soul cycle instructor played too much yesterday We're also forgetting about Power to the world Spice up your life Oh yeah Oh so good Fucking Ariel Our friend Ariel He's a SoulCycle instructor Played Too Much yesterday

On the bike I was like I love Too Much Oh my god That's an iconic scene In the movie too There's just so many I also like the one

Where the assless guys Come out Come on Come on I just love that song It's not an official Spice Girls song Oh yeah You couldn't find it It's that song it's not an official spice girl song but oh yeah you couldn't find it it's not because it's not and when they were very uh big about all having writing credits so most of their songs if not all of them maybe not in forever because

they got a dark child involved you know dark child they tried to move into he tagged himself doing what everyone else was doing yeah they lost it. And I mean, Jerry had left by that point because she thought she was going to be Beyonce and she's not. And it was not great. Have you ever like, there's very available now is like documentary footage about the breakup.

And they'll all sit down and like really talk about what happened. And so it's kind of crazy because literally all the rumors at that time were Jerry and Scary fighting about who was going to make creative decisions for the group or be the primary leader. Paul McCartney and John Lennon, classic story. Very bad. Very bad.

And apparently that kind of is what went down. They always butted heads. They were incredibly close And I think still are Remain close to this day Yeah they're all on good terms again They're on good terms Posh just doesn't want to do the tour Yeah well anyone who thought

Because people were all angry at her And I was like guys If you really knew the Spice Girls You would have known going into this That she was not going to Be a part of the reunion She's been very open about that Totally

I mean she's like She's like guys I really like I'm not a good singer Like that's why I love her Because she's like, she's like, guys, I really like, I'm not a good singer. Like, that's why I love her because she's like, yeah, I'm not that smart and I'm not a great singer. She knows,

she knows what her value is. Yeah, but she has like a fashion line. She has a hot husband. Her fashion line is doing so well. Her brand is doing, the sales are, I mean, she's, she was already rich

before the Spice Girls. And then she got Spice Girl rich. Then she married David Beckham. And now her brand is doing insanely well. They're posh and becks. They are no joke famous in the UK. They are the top. But also considering how famous the Spice Girls are,

they haven't had any really huge issues or scams or media things. They came at the exact last time I think they could have, honestly, because they kind of like hit and had their imperial phase moment and then kind of faded out right before the beginnings of like AOL, social media, like in a real way.

Because the next thing was Britney. The next was Britney, I think. In sync. The last thing I'll say about the Spice Girls is their reunion single Headlines is very good. Remember? I can't believe you even know Headlines. You're a real fan.

I'm a real fan. Oh, I fucking loved them. Yeah. It's so funny because, but at the, did you go to the reunion one? I did and I wanted to. So when they started singing Headlines, everyone was just like. What is this? Yeah, you could tell who the super fans were because I knew the lyrics, but no one did.

And they're like, what's this one? What's this one? I mean, it was hilarious and embarrassing. Do you remember when they did the Olympics in London and they came out in the cars? That was so good. So good. Iconic. So good.

Okay, that's a great answer. Before we move on, go around the room and say which Spice Girl you are. Oh, great. Now we know. I'm scary, like ethnic, whatever. Don't do that to yourself. I believe that you are scary. No, I think I am scary.

Like, I think, like, I, like, she just, like, whatever. I don't have, like, the same, like, I don't have as much, like, charm and personality as she does. But, like. Yes, you do. I'm so stupid. But I'm someone who's just, like, who, like, feels good about. I feel okay about being, like, caustic. Mel B is low-key a superstar. I'm so stupid. But I'm someone who's just like, who feels good about, I feel okay about being like, Mel B is low-key a superstar.

Mel B's amazing. And she was unreal on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, she was good. Do you remember? She was so, so good. Yeah, my dad loved her. Yeah. He got me into it, yeah.

Okay, that's me. You go. I think that I actually am Jerry. Wow. That you like are her? That's insane. I think I am Jerry. Jerry Hall That you like are her? I think I am Jerry Hallowell. Is this the Masked Singer?

Oh my god, I thought it was Masked. I know one of her songs even. Scream if you wanna go faster. And she also did a bad cover of It's Raining Men, which is basically like it's a night for the first time. I don't know know it's not like a New York accent

it's raining man she just kind of like laid into it her first single was look at me remember that look at me I loved that alright but I also have baby tendencies I think you're no I believe you're Jerry

Jerry was my favorite. Ginger Spice was my favorite, but maybe who I am the most, I don't know, fucking Sporty. I was going to say you're a Sporty. I think Sporty is, first of all,

you can never deny that Sporty was the, well, maybe the only one with a great voice. I mean, she had a great singing voice. I saw her at Irving Plaza, and I mean, she was really singing. She's the sound of the Spice Girls. And also, you can never forget.

I turn to you like a flower leaning toward the sun. That remix was hot at gay clubs for a long time that was a good song the remix was a really good song and she did it and then and then left eye rest in peace in that oh my god it was really really good northern star baby what a moment oh my god wait everyone has all the listeners you have to listen to I Turn To You. And maybe even Ariel Padilla should play that in class. I think that would be the gag to SoulCycle 2. I think that would signal the end of the world.

It's so gay. It's very gay. It's so gay. Okay. Okay, so Christina's sporty. It's now time. Well, I'm very healthy. We revisited the Spice Girls.

Well, the Christina. Who's Christina? Oh, Christina's posh. I'm pot. Corinne's posh. Corinne's posh. I'm sorry, Corinne's posh. I'm sorry. I got so flustered there.

I was like, oh yes. You're posh. We know. And also I do. I just don't think there can be two poshes at one table or else I would have really made a run for posh.

Yeah. But I think you're posh. Hot producer Emma is baby. Well, who do you feel you are? Who do you feel you are, Emma? Yeah. Baby. We got all five.

Wow. That's pretty good. It Yeah. Baby. We got all five. Wow. That's pretty good. It's a match. And we will fight, and this will all burn to the ground. It will. It will. You're going to leave. And I would be the one to break off and be like, I'm going solo, and no one gives a fuck.

Well, it's so cocky of Jerry, because she was the only one who's not an original Spice girl. There was a woman named Michelle Stevenson. Yes. What? And her got sick and then and then she's like i gotta go and then and then jerry like jerry was like legit just like kept calling because the original group was they answered an ad yes and then they turned against that guy because he was trying to sell them a deal that wasn't but they loved each other so that we're gonna find a deal elsewhere in the industry which i mean so feminist so michelle was in it so michelle was in it and then like there was literally jerry just like kept going she's like hi guys can i can i can i come and

they were like i guess we'll let this bitch in isn't that so funny she really wants the movie the movie is gonna be so good yeah the actual like biopic of the spice girls was that in development no but i'm saying like we're developing it right now. Let's all go in on it. Okay. I think we all go in on it as EPs and then we like, I was gonna say,

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Christina, what was the culture that made you say culture is for me? Saturday Night Live. Yes! Okay, great! From the 70s, like 75, 80.

And I've read all the books. I've seen all the episodes. I'm obsessed. I interned. I moved here, so I can intern there. You interned there? You interned?

Well, yeah. I didn't have an internship when I moved here, but I was like, I'm going to get one. Yeah. But you can't intern unless you're in college. So the last semester of my college career, after three failed interviews, Dina Moles felt bad for me and was like, you know what? She called me and said I didn't get it.

And I was like, what? Okay. If anybody quits, you call me. And she was like, okay. And it was also the day my grandpa died and then she called me right back

like 20 minutes later and was like you know what come in on Tuesdays and Saturdays and I was like oh my god so what did you do there

very Jerry of you very Jerry yeah I helped this lady Priya rap chords I didn't really have much to do

oh my god they truly didn't have any tasks for me I just wanted to help this lady Priya Rapcords. I didn't really have much to do. Oh my God. They truly didn't have any task for me. I just wanted to help this lady, Priya Rapcords. Iconic quote. Iconic quote. Wait, are you- And I checked people in to the cafeteria.

Oh, great. And I would go around, I would ask like Andy Samberg what he wanted for dinner because we ordered for certain people who were doing digital shorts. Oh my God. You got to put that Priya thing on your resume.

Yes. I work for Priya. SNL intern. Help some lady that Priya thing on your resume. Yes. I work for Priya. SNL intern. Helped some lady Priya wrap her. She did not. Andy Samberg, what he wanted for lunch sometimes. Yeah.

She didn't want me there because there was nothing for me to do. Priya? Yeah, Priya didn't want me there because I was like in the way, but I kept quiet. I knew to keep quiet. I knew not to be annoying.

The thing is, I feel, I feel, feel Like the interns I'm like This is such a Gross thing for me to say But the nicest thing About before I went on break

Was all the Like a bunch of interns Left a card on my desk Being like Oh nice Being like Thank you so much For like learning my name

And like saying hi to me I was like Yeah like You're a human being But I feel like That's not like A normal thing there No No It's not a normal thing you know what the cat the cast was so nice okay great the cast is almost we were we were we saying no just like it's not a normal thing a lot of internships like

i was interning at queer eye and no one knew my name i was like all right the first one first one first iteration oh my god people knew my name when i interned but that's because i made an impression great rapping those chords oh my god all day they name When I interned But that's because I made an impression Great Wrapping those cords Oh my god Well they're all wrapped All day They're all You come in

Your cords are all wrapped Priya looked at the cords And she was like Hmm Okay This looks like the work Of Christina Hutchinson This girl's got something

She wrapped these cords Really well Even though I initially Didn't want her here Seven loops Instead of eight Initially I didn't want This girl here

Wrapping my cords Or even touching my cords At all But looking at these piles She can stay Like the last day Of my internship She told me something seven loops instead of eight? Initially, I didn't want this girl here wrapping my cords or even touching my cords at all, but looking at these piles, she can stay. Like the last day of my internship, she told me something personal about her life and I felt so brought in with Priya.

Then she got hired, but yeah, it was good. She was cool. I liked her. I liked everybody. Have you always been a fan? Are you still a fan? Oh my God, yeah. I've half-assed auditions for them or

submission like a real yeah um because i'm too scared because i love it too much it's it's one of those it's one of those but it's like it truly it's whatever being on the other side of it it's like just like a regular place to work which sounds insane it's become very it's become very demystified being so close to it it's's like, wow, it really is just a workplace. And they work hard. It's just on a scale. But on Saturdays. On Saturdays.

When you watch them quick change and there's a horse in the fucking hallway and then you walk by Beyonce. Like the episode, the season where Betty White and Jay-Z, that was the season I entered. And I walked past Beyonce and had a panic attack because she's my favorite person in the world. Yeah, she is. And yeah, but I and then the season finale every party is on the ice skating

rink, right? So I went back up. I learned like, oh, we could go back upstairs this particular evening in that party. And I just like ran around 8H by myself. And I just like I was like, I will never forget every second of this moment. Like I had the whole studio

to myself. And I was just like, I just stared at everything and touched the curtains of the dress I'm obsessed with I mean being there is surreal yeah being there is surreal but it's very it's it's it's television history I mean it's it's it's iconic it's their rock star stars like when I when I used to watch this 1975 to 80s my favorite five five-year band. And it was just like, they're rock stars. They're the Beatles. They're the Beatles. Yeah. So then you go against this theory that Lauren has that it's like everyone's favorite cast is from when they were in high school.

You are a fan of that for those first five years. Yes, Gilda Redner is my favorite. Oh, my God. Gilda Redner, yeah. Have you seen this documentary? I need to see it. Yes. I got to see it.

It looks so moving. She narrates it. It's so beautiful yeah it's a gorgeous documentary just god her book oh god I've read her book

so many times her thing god what was the theater what did she do the theater it was her at the Beacon no her at the her Broadway show

her Broadway show yeah yeah I forget what theater it was but that show was so sweet oh my god let's talk dirty to the animals like so amazing yeah she's incredible yeah that one quote she sweet oh my god let's talk dirty to the animals like so amazing yeah she's incredible i i yeah that one quote she has in her book it's like um i always will

lust after men but no matter what happens with men i'm always horny for my creativity like in that and i was like yes i totally get that oh my god yeah fuck she and gene wilder that's like a iconic i know one of the best couples of all time. Yep. And her and Bill Murray had like a, yeah. Right. Really? Yeah, yeah.

And when she was really sick, like the last time the cast ever saw her, Bill Murray like picked her up and like didn't want to believe she was sick and like threw her at everybody one at a time just like say hi and bye. Yeah, it was really sweet. Oh my God. Well, because like those characters,

what are the characters they do when Bill Murray and her are playing like the dork those characters oh yeah yeah yeah the nerds you can kind of tell you can sense it when they're doing

those characters yeah but I mean there was also like cause that was when they were like into each other yeah cause you read

the big SNL book right the chunk one did you guys read that one the big live from New York yes I have it I'm like

I have it I will read it it is really good and I finished it I can't believe it. I'm like, I have it. I will read it. It is really good. And I finished it. I can't believe it, but I was like, it's that good that I was like, oh,

and plus like it's conversations and it keeps skipping. It's easy to read. Yeah. But in it, cause I'm like, they're talking about like Bill Murray was like a little bit mean to Gilda.

Yeah. And it's, and it's a very weird dynamic. I feel like he was nagging her. Yeah. I don't, yeah. I'm,

her relationships with men are fascinating. Yeah. She fell in love all the time and i love that's why it's like me i fall in love with so many people all the time jane curtain talks about she was on watch what happens live jane curtain and andy asked quite a bit about snl okay and um jane says that the way that the men kind of like treated gilda was different than the way they treated jane because jane's strengths were more of kind of like treated Gilda was different than the way they treated Jane because Jane's strengths were more of kind of being

the straight man like kind of like you know doing weekend update and things like that and like she said like Gilda was Gilda like she was just kind of accepted as like one of the guys which like came with its own I guess baggage for her but Jane was saying like being there was like

a whole different experience for her because it's like the way that they regarded women at that time was just completely different and they always had respect for Gilda I think they knew Gilda was a legend and there was no way that they could fight it so they're like I guess we'll just let her join yeah she's just the most adorable

like you just love oh god yeah just you fall there's very few people that you fall in love everyone falls in love with them when you meet them she carried the light that's for sure yeah she definitely had that energy so do you have a favorite cast member now um oh my god

uh I mean Maya Rudolph is I mean oh the current cast I mean like of all time Maya Rudolph, Molly Shannon I think Maya is. Maya is one of the funniest motherfuckers on this planet. She's iconic.

Yeah. She's amazing. She's the best. She's the best. I was thinking, I was thinking the current cast and I am so, there's something about

Cecily Strong. Oh, I love her. I love Cecily. I have a crush on her. Yeah. I try to buy her drinks because I would go to the after parties

with Ryan Reese all the time. I still go, but, and then every time I'm like, I'm buy sexually strong a drink and then i put i go hot and i just run away i run away oh my god just do it just do it i'm too nervous she seems the coolest to me yeah yeah and you like fully know her well she's like she she's the coolest like it's crazy i'm just like oh you're incredible like i just like yeah i just see her do janine piero and yeah and there was like she's so good you're so funny she's so

good like her impressions are so underrated good and like her original characters are so underrated good and she i think she like what i love about her is it's like it like sketch. I love sketch comedy, but sometimes sketch comedy can feel like performance. And sometimes it feels like acting. And I think Cecily is always acting. Yes. You know what I mean? You don't want to have a conversation with at a party.

It's one of my favorite characters ever. And I'm so, oh God, when she did weekend update, I was so excited. But then, and then the switch, but also Heidi Gardner's really fucking good.

She's amazing. She's got fucking chops. Yeah. I really love her I went to JFL with her and we were both in the same characters class and then like hearing that she had gotten

it I was like oh my god it makes perfect sense was her audition like her showcase amazing she was great I mean like we all got to know each other and the thing is like the thing about Heidi is it's that same thing as I just said with Cecily she's acting she commits so it explodes on the screen yeah it really does the every boxer's girlfriend she did that at jfl oh really she did that and i remember like cracking up at that character and she also did her like kristin shaw oh oh my god

but i was like christian and she's also the kindest person she got everybody she like had saran wrapped small individual plates full of cookies and things that she baked before christmas left it at everyone's doors and i was like and she she came she bought me we have this love of gummies and she like brought bought me this huge box of like artisanal gummies. She's like the nicest person in the fucking world. That makes me happy. And like every good thing. All the cast members are like, like good people.

Like they're good. Yeah. They're all good. Yeah. Yeah. And she has a really nice family. Really nice husband. I've met her.

Like brothers came up. They were all so nice. Like, yeah, they might. She's the best. She's the best. Anyway, SN anyway um snl i feel like is there is there like any sort of well i guess like favorite favorite sketch of all time that's i mean it's hard i was like trying to like okay i have to say this so i was i've also

been obsessed with this since i was very young which is why this is all such a fucking gag to me um this the way things have worked out um like so I used to go when I was in college I used to camp out on the standby line yeah I did this every week instead of like trying to make friends I got in like five times oh there's a couple do you know that couple yeah Lewis and Jamie yes oh my god yeah I know Jamie. Dude, they're the front of every line, every show. When do you need to get there to be the first in line? Thursday or Wednesday? I would be there Friday at 11 a.m. Okay.

Oh, yeah, that's right. The first time I ever went was... It was... I went and I had... No, it was James Franco. Oh. And the second time... No, it was James Franco and Kings of Leon

and I kid you not, I sat next to Emma Stone. What? And this was when Emma Stone, all she had done was super bad. Super bad.

It was pre-Eazy-A. So it was Emma Stone sitting next to her boyfriend at the time who's now transitioned, Teddy Geiger. Okay. So this was years ago.

So now Teddy Geiger has transitioned and she now is like a songwriter. She writes with Shawn Mendes and they have a lot of success together. She's nominated for a Grammy with him, like doing very well. But this was at this time,

like I sat literally next to them and it was James Franco and Kings of Leigh. And I was so in shock the whole time that I didn't get to enjoy it. I went the next week it was Anne Hathaway and the Killers. Oh my God.

And this was the very first time that Kristen Wiig did the Lawrence Welk show. Oh my God. I'm going to tell you it was one of the best moments of my life watching that live

in the studio. Oh my God. You got to watch that live. I watched it live with those little tiny hands and Fred Armisen playing Lawrence Welk and like the four of them, Casey Wilson, Amy Puller

who was nine months pregnant. Right. She was about to burst. And Kirsten Wiig doing that character. Yeah. Anne Hathaway being such an amazing live performer. Like it was just so good. And I was, I remember I left and I was like, there's something so magical confirmed

about this place. Yes. And I was just. Yeah. And you witnessed an iconic thing happen. It was so cool. Yeah. Amy and Tina Weekend Update is probably like favorite sketches.

Anytime Amy and Tina do Weekend Update. I was, for whatever reason, my favorite duo, Weekend Update duo was Amy and Tina. Oh, for whatever reason. I mean, they just are the best. I love Weekend Update now, but you know. I like Norm MacDonald. I love Norm. Norm's great.

He was my favorite Weekend Update. I just think he's so funny. Yeah, Norm is like an interesting cat. Like he is very funny. It's either like you're on board or you're not. And his standup is actually quite good. Like if you watch specials, most of the specials that you see these days are pretty bad. But Norm still got it, even though he's super religious.

He's a little bit kooky. Oh, he's religious? I knew he was conservative. Well, I mean, my friend Harrison Greenbaum was on America's Got Talent, I guess it was. So Norm was on, when he was on Last Comic Standing, I guess it was. Oh, right. Or no, so Norm was on, when he was on Last Comic Standing, I guess it was, and he has some joke that it compares the Bible to Harry Potter

and Norm was offended by it. Wow. And like made a comment and I was like, oh, right, you've lost your edge, buddy. Come on, grandpa. We know who you are now. Yeah.

Also, I have to say, because they're my bosses, Colin Jost and Michael Che. They're great. They're great. They're actually incredible together. Yeah, they're my bosses colin chost and michael j they're great they're actually incredible yeah they're amazing and i loved watching michael find his voice and like his he does stand up when he's at the desk right so fucking funny so funny and they play off each other well totally and like colin like i'm gonna go to bat like just the nicest guy the nicest dude

and so it's like jay like i love jay like jay just loves to fuck shit up on the internet and about like just the nicest guy. The nicest dude. And so is like Che. I love Che. Like Che just loves to fuck shit up on the internet. And like that's like his thing. I know, but I love that about him. But like in person, you're just like, oh, like. He's very sweet. You're just like a nice guy. And like, it's like, you just have to like, I don't know.

He just, he just likes to like. He likes to poke the fire a little bit. I like that. I appreciate that. He's a little troublemaker. Love him to death. Do you have a favorite sketch of all time? I was going to say, and this is so, this sounds a little basic. I like that. I appreciate that. He's a little troublemaker. Love him to death. Do you have a favorite sketch of all time? I was going to say,

and this is so, this sounds a little basic, but I think, first it was like, first it was like all the Donatella stuff with Maria. Oh, yeah.

Because growing up, I was like, I'm responding to something about this. I don't, I didn't really know that I was gay or anything, but I was like,

there's something fun about her being surrounded by these shirtless buff guys and her screaming at children on Halloween. Yes. So funny. Halle Berry coming in as Naomi Campbell. I was like, yeah, this is fun. Get out.

Love it. Get out. That and then truly, but this is the basic thing, Debbie Downer. I love Debbie Downer. I'll like, I love Debbie Downer. I'll never forget watching that. I was like, I was screaming. The one where they laugh with Lindsay Lohman with a Disney world.

That one's so good. It's so good. I guess I would like it more if people didn't consistently call me Debbie Downer after that. But you know, it's fine. You get that? You have feline AIDS. Oh my God. So when you look at that costume, he's probably in the early stages of

heat stroke honestly i love when they break i love watching i like it so whenever anyone gets mad at jimmy fallon for breaking i'm like you gotta stop taking it so seriously i know and i always forget like his audition was fucking amazing j Jimmy Fallon is a really good impression. He's got really good. Wasn't the only one ever who like never broke. Like Chris Parnell was famous for like never fucking breaking. Well, he was a pro.

I didn't break. Yeah. I don't think I love it. Oh yeah. Well, he never broke. I managed to like, I'm so obsessed with SNL that I like my first year in New York when I went,

went to, like I moved here to intern. I didn't do it three years later, but I snuck myself into the rock and roll hall of fame induction after party and I met a cast member and we like made out and then we like fucked for five years on and off oh my god were you wow wait was this the

celebrity that yeah okay we didn't talk about this but we will talk off air yeah and you guys didn't didn't compare notes about your celebrity oh no we will I like know I'm like friends with a lot of like I'm friends with like Horatio Sands I met him on the street and I tweeted at him and then we're like really good friends

yeah I don't know I've just managed to like envelope myself in this fucking SNL babe like that's amazing it's yeah I love it so much wait we have to ask you about okay come on let's do a little exploratory thing with the book with the book what was that process like for you guys to adapt the podcast?

Because we actually have an idea for one. Yeah. Well, we had an outline that we all agreed upon. And then we sold the book. But we got an offer from HarperCollins based on this outline. And then we went to go write it. And then we each separately abandoned the outline, did not tell the other person, and happened to write things that really complemented each other. Oh, my God.

Perfect. I focused a lot on sexual acts and experiences. And things that really complimented each other. Oh my God. Perfect. I focused a lot on like sexual acts and experiences. And then she focused on like self-confidence. Amazing. Yeah. Cause I would recommend, I mean like you can, I think they wanted us to like write it in unison,

but I don't understand like how you can share a voice when your voices are like, you're not the same person. We've experienced that too. When we, when we have been assigned things for Vulture together, it's hard it's hard to like

figure it out it's very difficult you just have to agree and then that to me that waters down everything but I mean like this has been going on for years because we got book deals

like a couple like offers like years and years ago from the original like the first one was from a guy who did like some of Chelsea Handler's

first books but they wanted something really salacious like My Sideways Life and like I love that and I've read that and I love Chelsea's books but that's not what we're doing. We're doing something different and also that's already been done. Chelsea

did it. So we got to do something new. And so that was and we sat for a couple years and then there was a woman who was kind of after us for a while who ended up being, who ended up getting, going up and up in publishing and who we ultimately worked with.

So she had kind of been following us since she was a young woman in the publishing industry. And then, yeah, she was a mastermind. And then when we wrote the yeah, when we wrote the the the pitch for it, there was a bunch of people like they did a bidding war. And then we just ended up going with Hillary's company because, well, I mean,

they did offer us the most money, but also they, it's Harper one at Harper Collins. Like they cared. You could tell they cared the most.

She was the one who was like, okay, we're going to have avatars for you guys and you'll have like, every time it's a chapter that you got,

one of you writes, you'll have your like cartoon avatar at the top so no one ever gets confused. You could tell whose voice it is anyway, but there's just, yeah,

it's really, it's easy. It's an easy anyway, but there's just, yeah, it's really, it's an easy read, but it's like she really helped make it, structure it, first of all, because we just like handed her paragraphs about shit we wanted to talk about and she put the puzzle together. That's so thoughtful of her, though,

to like think of a system that works for you guys. Yeah, she's really great. Wow. She's fucking great at her job, yeah. That's awesome. How long did it take for you guys to write it like six months yeah

wow but I only was creative from the hours of 3am to 5am I was a real bitch honestly doesn't that suck when that happens

it fucked up my sleep for the rest of my life I mean my sleep has never been the same since I wrote the book really because it fucked it up because I'm a night

yeah it's hard to write in the day because I like need to write in silence like when the whole like when like when the whole world is still I wrote my half and honestly it was like five days I'm not I just like I just I love most of my process is procrastinating and then when it hits me I got it I'm the same exact way so many people are and I'm just like wondering if that is like procrastinating love it so much warm hug yes but I'm just like wondering if that is like I love it so much it's like a warm hug yes but I'm like what is like

despite all of our best intentions like it feels like there's no better way like it's how it works at work too I think what works for me what works for me anyway is like I have to really develop in my own brain what it is that I want to say because it has to be good almost good enough

to be put on paper I don't like writing something and being like I don't like this I want to erase all of that I want to say because it has to be good, almost good enough to be put on paper. I don't like writing something and being like, I don't like this. I want to erase all of it. I get to know and love my idea in my head and I really know what it is by the time I put it out. So it almost is like that procrastination truly is part of the creative process because your wheels are spinning and you're allowing yourself to develop it. It's just not on the page.

So whenever anyone is struggling writing and they're struggling getting something down, I'm like, you know, being a creative person is not about necessarily putting words down on the paper. And you can't always tell yourself, like, I'm going to write today between the hours of 3 and 4 p.m. It doesn't work like that. It never works like that. For me, anyway.

But it's weird because I you think I always think of the people who worked at Motown Records because literally they would go into their office at like 9am and say today we need to write a hit by 5pm

and they would write a hit by 5pm so it's like I think you can force yourself to do it if you need to have you seen the beautiful Carole King musical

because this is literally about that no oh no I haven't seen that okay it's very good and I just saw it and literally what you just said. So Carole King and

Jerry Goffin, who was her husband and creative partner, they worked at a place like that. And it was like, I think it was I don't know the exact label, but they literally would sit and the boss would come in and say, we need a hit song for the Shirelles uh by the

end of the week yeah and it needs to be a girl's song or a guy's song or this and with this energy uptown or a ballad or this and they say got it and like the the writing duos in the uh at the label would kind of compete and they would all perform the song at the end of the week and then he'd be like it's that one and maybe that song could go for this other artist but i loved that musical because it's really about the creative process and like collaborate. I can't recommend it enough. And Jesse Mueller's sister, Abby Mueller, was in it.

Oh, great. And so Jesse Mueller was the actress who won the Tony for playing Carole King. I saw her sister. Who was Carole? Who was Carole. Oh my God, that's so cool. It's pretty cool that they're in the same family

and they played the same part. That's great. Super well. But it's exactly what you're saying. This thing of like, hi, it's your job to be creative before 5 p.m. Yeah, and it's not like they were putting out bad stuff. It was great stuff.

I think it stands the test of time. Well, yeah, when the pressure's applied, you can do it. Sure. I think. They talk about, I didn't realize that she wrote Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow? But I was like, it's amazing that someone even wrote this.

This is such a beautiful song. Or You've Got a Friend. I'm like, oh. You've Got a Friend. Beautiful song. Such a good song. Natural Woman. Yeah.

There you go. I think maybe sometimes it's like your way, like I always am waiting for the idea. And when it's the idea, I know that and it clicks. But I think perhaps you can wait for the idea and when it's the idea i know that and it clicks but i think perhaps you can wait for the idea but if you don't get the idea there are other ideas that are good so maybe those are those songs and then like the idea is like your yeah the thing yes the thing that will always define you yeah sure i just yeah i don't know i've been like going through this

weird dry spell for the last like well this is a question I actually have so you guys write on Tuesday nights and that's all night right and that's like that's an all nighter but like it kind of has to happen on Tuesday night right because you have to do the read through right and then dress yeah what do you know writing new shit later in the week

so what I'm saying is like if you have a bad day on Tuesday that kind of like sucks yeah and it's like a weird dry on Tuesday. Dry on Tuesday. And it's just like, well, that like sort of sets the tone for the rest of your week in a way. But I mean, but the but like the thing about us, like like like at first I was like I went in there being like, oh, it's interesting that like people don't. I mean, sometimes people do just come in with an idea that they've had boiling for like months and months and it's an idea that they've really thought through for a long time but but like a lot of it is just about whatever the alchemy is of the time and the place and the

people in one room like sitting together and just riffing and I'm just like oh yeah it's just like first it's like everyone has a different process some people don't have any like Anna Dresden like I'll just say like she like writes in this way that where she's like I don. Some people don't have any. Like Anna Dresden, like I'll just say like she like writes in this way where she's like, I truly don't have a process. It's just like

very playful, experimental. Like Adie and Kate will just come into our office and they'll riff together and like Anna just has her notes app open on her computer

and just types out little sentences and little sound bites. And then she like synthesizes it all together on Final Draft. Yeah. Wow.ites. And then she like synthesizes it all together on final draft. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

And then like it's she just makes it work. Yeah. And I'm just like, OK, that is it seems like a straightforward process, but there's so many like depending on what you're writing, there's so many different moving pieces. And it's like a crazy mental 3D chess thing. It's like you have to figure out what's going to work for you in that environment. But riffing is the best. That's

the best way to write, I think. Well, now I'm learning I have to do it out loud. Just in terms of screen play or in terms of dialogue, it has to be... The only way I can write without making it sound so robotic and crazy and unrealistic is... To speak it unrealistic is to speak it out,

to speak it out. Yeah. Because you have to think, would someone say this? Would someone say this? Would this, is this easy to say? Or is it phonetically easy for someone to say?

Yeah. Crazy. Which, but it's like something you have to think about. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. But that's process y'all.

That's process y'all. I think it's time to move on to, I don't think so. I think it's time. So this is our segment that we do and you fucking slayed that live show. And I understand your friend is animating it. Yes, he is.

Duff, shout out. I'm very excited. I was very proud of that. I actually wrote that on the way to the venue. Cause I had a million, a million different ones. And I was like,

no, I'm going to do that. Cause I've been wanting to do a bit on tampon commercials for a while. So, uh, yeah. I, and I was like,

and I wrote it like backstage and I was like, it's easy. They're easy to write in that short time though too. It's like when you apply pressure, I'm like, man, I've been trying to write a new joke for a really long time. And I'm like,

I wrote that fucking backstage. Yeah. I just got to apply the pressure. And like one form of pressure in that is that it's, it's 60 seconds. Like you can't make it that much longer I love that

just it forces you to beat it out in a quick efficient way put this on your schedule right now Corinne Fisher 420 420

you have to do the Brooklyn Bell House show am I here let me see sorry I feel like I don't want to get yelled at no no no

it's fine the thing is I will yell just kidding also we are going on tour Las las culturistas is on tour with i don't think so honey uh we're coming to portland seattle vancouver are you not in town i'm in we're in india annapolis oh we are yeah well we'll figure this out we'll figure it out

um san francisco vancouver uh philly boston dc houston dallas and aust Dallas and Austin and Brooklyn baby and so you can get tickets online they're on sale now crazily enough the San Francisco date is on the night of the Oscars we will figure it out make it work you guys just gotta watch the Oscars with the audience I think that might just happen that could be really fun

mystery science theater the Oscars I think it might be that head of lettuce baby and do like I Don't Think So Honey's As The Night Is Going. I think it could be really fun. We just have to talk because the Oscars start at 5, our show starts at 8. Mother fucker. So you can watch

both. We can do both. We could do I Don't Think So Honey about the Oscars because they just happened. Hello. Top of Cal. Love it. Should I go first? You should go first Okay so this is I don't This is Okay great

This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey As Time Starts Now I don't think so honey That thing of when you're Scrolling through people's pictures And then all of a sudden They're on a very high structure

I fucking freak out Like okay so when It's the angle And it's like The thing of like Look how Look on this really tall thing I'm on

I literally Lurch in my chair Because I feel like I'm on the high structure Oh my god Something I've developed Which I don't think so honey about Is I'm extremely Afraid of lurch in my chair because I feel like I'm on the high structure. Oh my God. Something I've developed, which I don't think so honey about is I'm extremely afraid of heights now. All of a sudden,

like, and literally it's so intense that I'll be scrolling through photos on someone's Instagram, which I often do. And I will literally be so uncomfortable when I see someone on top of a building. Don't take these photos. And if you are going to put these photos on Instagram,

there has to be like a photo beforehand that says the next picture is one of those scary photos where I am on a tall thing. Trigger warning. Because I am triggered by tall things. Literally, we sat down with someone the other day and he said, look, we're actually on the top of a building. And I looked over and I almost died.

I always feel like I could fall. And that's one minute. Wait, I'm sorry. Who was this person that we saw? When we were at the departure shoot. Oh, yes. Which you guys were also at. Oh, when you did the talk?

When we did the interview. Oh, I didn't look over the railing. You looked over the railing? We looked over the railing and it was insane. Oh, yeah. You can't look over the railing. I was like on the seventh floor, dude. It's actually rule of culture number 88. You can't look over the railing. You looked over the railing? We looked over the railing and it was insane. Oh, yeah, you can't look over the railing. I was like on the seventh floor, dude. It's actually rule of culture number 88.

You can't look over the railing because you'll be afraid. Literally, these photos, like on Facebook, I'll be scrolling through someone's pictures and I'll see one and it's as if I'm falling a thousand feet. I don't know.

I like have like a weird like... Wow. I went to the World Trade Center Observatory deck and I couldn't go near the glass. the elevator right out of panic attack i don't know why it's insane yeah no i don't like heights and weirdly the when i discovered i didn't like heights is after i was went skydiving whoa i did i didn't i was i didn't care about heights and then i hit 18 years old and my friends were like we're gonna go skydiving we went it was the most harrowing experience of my life it did not go well oh so you regret it i don't regret it because now i can

say i did it and it's a good story it didn't go up because i didn't eat that day and my stomach was very empty and i got anxious and literally the free fall was fine dry heaving but i i the 10 minute float down yeah they don't tell you that you think that you think the scary thing is going to be the free fall but the scary part is like after they pull the thing you float down. They don't tell you that. You think the scary thing is going to be the free fall, but the scary part is after they pull the thing, you float down 10,000 feet. And that takes like

3,000 feet, but it takes like 10 minutes. And so you're floating, and that's when it gets fucking crazy. And I had just been through this intense experience of free falling through the air, actually, in fact. And I had nothing in my stomach intense experience of free falling through the air actually in fact and I had nothing in my stomach but I was throwing up into my shirt

and of course it was tandem so the guys on my back like oh yeah dude are you okay this guy who I made up his name is Trask because I forgot his name he looked like a Trask he had like spiky hair it was so humiliating but since that experience I haven't heard of fights

wow hey alright this is Bowen Yang his time starts now I don't think Sohoni the stylist on this photo shoot who made

you're right who put me in this eye who put me in this eye makeup he was like okay the theme is superheroes and I was like

okay I was not told this fine puts me with these two Japanese makeup artists who are so sweet did spider-man eyes on me specifically puts spider-man eyes on me I was like okay fine I guess we're going with this

and then comes over and says wow I love this very Pokemon Pikachu Pikachu and I was like, and all three of us, all three of us, all of me and the makeup artist just like give each other a look. You guys all went, no.

We're like, what the fuck? And then he walks away and then one of them goes, he's just, he just said that because we're Asian. And I was like, yeah. Like even she understood that to be what it was.

Someone who like culturally like maybe didn't understand what might've just happened to her. She got it. And then he comes back and it's like, wow, Pikachu, Pikachu.

And then at that point I was like, no, I don't know. That's not it. And that's one minute. I was getting fitted at that time. And I heard it. I heard him.

And he wouldn't stop it. And he said, he said it several times. And like, you could tell you guys were all so uncomfortable. And I was just like, that's insane. He doesn't, he didn't get it at all. were all so uncomfortable and I was just like that's insane. He didn't get it at all.

By the end I got aggressive. I was like no. Yeah. It was fun to see like him and Corinne butt heads. Like they were like. Oh you guys butt heads? He kept saying dumb shit to her. No we didn't butt heads.

I just I was just I was just like I was trying not to cry because I was so excited for that photo shoot. And like I look so great. I like I this was the first photo shoot i've done since i was like really sick last year and like i'm like so fit now and i was like like we're gonna get great photos i'm gonna look amazing and thin and my manager was like oh we're doing suits so i'm like i'm like walking in i'm like oh it's gonna be like some like louis vuitton like amazing like pieces yes and then they they and another, he has an Asian thing going on. So he gave me this,

he gave me this Asian inspired, uh, like Sergeant Pepper jacket. Yeah. And I looked like a chic sous chef. And then he kept saying, Oh, you look like a little China doll.

And I go, well, I hope I don't since I'm an Italian Jew. And I'll show like, what? Like, Oh my God. Cause I'm was like i was looking in the mirror and i was like i swear to god if you did something weird to my eyes that's gonna make a the new york

post write an article about me i'm gonna fucking lose it no oh my god yeah so stressed out and he kept saying it to me and it was so big i mean i looked like like i looked like a child playing a sous chef it was the jacket was so big did you change out? No, because I didn't. The thing was, we were friends with one of the people on set. And he's so amazing. And we were really so thankful for the opportunity. Of course, I was so thankful to be there. And this is not me like poo-pooing on the experience.

It was just that guy. And so I am always ready to make a stink and stand up for myself. But this was just one where I was like, I have your battles. Yeah. Yeah. And also I get the partners magazine and I always throw it directly in the trash anyway. I'm sorry. Recycling.

Recycling. Thank you. I'm sure the photos look beautiful. The photos look great. I was so I'm sure they did. It was such a lovely experience. It was just like you guys probably look great. Paul, if you're listening, like we. It was such a lovely experience. It was just like, you guys probably looked great. And Paul,

if you're listening, like we got along great by the end. Like we hit it off. But like that moment, you can't say Pikachu, but you can't do that. That moment was bad. And you gotta learn from that. Okay.

And we love you. And there's room for growth. I believe that. Room for growth. So that's what I'm coming to you with. We're gonna wear thinner clothes next time we all do a photo shoot. There you go.

I didn't necessarily get the concept because he was putting you in like a half superhero thing. And then I was looking like. You looked. I looked like James Bond. You looked like Bond. I was. You guys.

I saw somebody show me like a little like proof of your photos. You guys look great. I just. I was. I was happy. What was that green wig? That green wig was just. The hair guy was being a goof.

And he was like. I was being. I like the. One of the makeup artists was taking me out of my makeup. And then he just comes over, puts this green wig on me for no reason and starts styling it. I was like, okay, great.

I was like, I was on board with that. I'm bored. Wait, the other thing that I love that happened was Bowen is sitting in the makeup chair and he gets asked about the Golden Globes. And he was like, oh, Bohemian Rhapsody won. And everyone around him was like, we loved Bohemian Rhapsody one. And everyone around him was like, we loved Bohemian Rhapsody.

What are you talking about? And I was like, no. And then I go, no, it's bad. And he was, he was trying,

well, you really weren't, you kind of were backing down. Was I fucked? No, because it was like a group of people being like, we loved it. And I was like,

oh, we have to protect our friends with taste. Like, like I was like, no Bowen, like it was bad. Like I was like ready toen like it was bad like I was like ready to go over there and be like it just wasn't a good movie wow thank you for calling me out

listen I see all okay let's move on this is Corinne's okay wait so wait I've never done this before so basically you have to I know I know you want to do but it no but it does have to be something you guys did like more current stuff it can be anything I did one on balloons once.

I did one on, I did one last night about cardboard. Like it's, give me about anything. Okay. Yeah. All right. This is Corinne Fishers. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now.

Okay. So people who taste test ice cream at ice cream parlors, I don't think so, honey. I mean, I don't know where you grew up in and I don't want to shine my privilege on you. But I feel like at some time, no matter how badly your life is going, that you've had ice cream, someone's offered it to you. Someone's given you a spoonful. You can get those little black and white cups for a dollar that you eat with the thing that looks like a tonsil checker from a doctor's office. So if you're living a life where you can't take a chance on an ice cream. I've never seen an ice cream flavor so wacky that I was like i need to put this in my mouth before i dedicate five dollars to putting it

uh in my life forever like you need to take a risk at some point in your fucking life otherwise you're not going to achieve anything so if you can't the most expensive ice cream i've ever seen is like a diva and that's eight dollars and that's top of the notch so like, you need to eat ice cream without fear. Oh, yes. Wait, close it out. Close it out. Five seconds. And what's, I don't know how to close it.

I don't think so, honey. Oh, and you just go, so take, I don't think so, honey. Yes! I was like, should I summarize it? No. Oh, yes. It's always good to button it with a perfect little, I don't think so, honey. But yours was stunning.

That was perfect. Yours was stunning. I mean, look, I agree with you. It also really holds up the process of everyone else getting the ice cream. It does. Someone taste tested chocolate once and I'm like, I'm out. You know what I do always taste test? Because I'm a sicko who likes cotton candy ice cream.

But not every cotton candy ice cream is the same. And I always do taste test that. Some of them have more syrup and some of them have less. Some of them are very cotton candy and some of them are not as. And also strawberry can be often different in a lot of different places. I've really felt very kind of jaded in my experiences with some strawberry. And I am a strawberry bitch. You've been burned.

I've been burned before. There's a lot of fake ones. But sometimes people really try to force it on me. Like their flavor is so fucking edgy that I can a strawberry bitch. You've been burned. I've been burned before. There's a lot of fake ones but sometimes people really try to force it on me like their flavor is so fucking edgy that I can't handle it. Yeah, no. And I just have said to them, I said, I don't do that. Don't do that. What's your ice cream? I mean, I like cookies and cream a lot.

Mint chocolate chip, pumpkin when it's seasonal. Yes. It's legit. What about you? What ice cream? I like double fudge brownie. Ben and Jerry's. You guys are nice baked goods What do you like? We don't go for ice cream I'm a strawberry bitch

I remember this We are both strawberry bitches We are both strawberry Because you know what? Water science Water science Strawberry milkshake And onion rings

Is like one of my favorite Like diner combos Of all time I love the Wendy's Frosty and french fries Oh my god That's so good The Wendy's chocolate

Frosty is not a joke Oh my god Not That's so good. The Wendy's chocolate frosty is not a joke. Oh my God. Not a joke. So good. There is this movement right now to bring back Viennettas. Do you guys remember Viennettas? Yeah. The fancy ice cream cakes?

Yeah. Oh, sure. Those fancy little loaves. And then remember the commercials? The commercials where they would cut a piece of Viennetta and put it into a martini coop or martini glass. Yum. Oh my God glass and the people with like beautiful nails

would like go at it like ooh give it to me. Do you guys remember that? It's like a visual ASMR. It is a visual ASMR but it's a very 90s

ad. Anyway I think we're supposed to I think we should like raise our voices and like bring that back. Yeah Viennetta is okay.

Raise your voices honey. All right this is Christina Hutchinson's I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready? She's ready.

Oh, my God. She's so poised. No, you didn't experience it live. I know, but I listened to it. It was incredible. And then she released the crack. I loved it. This will be a little more free for you.

It was very good. No, I love it. This is Christina Hutchinson's I Don't Think So, Honey. Her time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey, the stats on my Instagram stories. I am a slave to these stats

on my Instagram stories sometimes I only post an Instagram story just to see if the person I'm fucking or want to fuck watches it and then sometimes if I'm fucking two people

like I had two boyfriends for a couple months and then they were all in a cluster yeah they were right on top of each other they were the first one and the second one

isn't that fun and then I would keep and then I would find myself posting content just so that the people I would fuck would watch it and then one time Jonah Hill messaged me because I commented on one of his Instagram stories. And then I checked my stats and then he watched all my Instagram stories.

And then I felt really self-conscious. I was like, I really got to step up my film. 30 seconds. Like my filming and my directing game. So then I started like just venturing into this weird like avant-garde filming thing where I would just play Alice in Wonderland soundtrack in the background and just film my lights. All because I wanted to impress Jonah Hill because I wanted him to watch my Instagram stories. Oh, my God, 15 seconds. So every time I post something, it's just there's so much anxiety,

and I'm just a slave to the stats. The second I fucking post it, I'm wasting all of my time looking at who is looking at it. And then sometimes it's like I think the hot guy looked at it, and then I forget, so I go back, and then his name's nowhere to be found, but I swear I saw it. Okay, no, oh, my God. And that's one minute.

What is that? What is that? It's Zuckerberg fucking with us. I think it's a glitch where it's like it knows that you are keyed into this one person. Yes and they disappear and you scroll and you scroll and you're like I swear they saw it. It's gaslighting. And I wanted to see it

again and they saw it. It's gaslighting. It's like I know that they saw this. And you're telling me they didn't? Where's the priority? Why do you order it that way? So I googled this and no one actually knows, but the theory, the prevailing theory is it's people who visit your

page, your account, the most, like your stalkers, quote unquote, land at the top of your Instagram story. That's what I was hoping for. And it's a mix. It's like, yes, Instagram is showing you the people that you see.

But then like when Jonah Hill looked at it, he was at the top. He was the top. But he doesn't look, he's not, we're not friends. He just engaged with you. He just DM'd you.

To Instagram, it's like, well, this is a big celebrity talking to another celebrity. And so we're going to like, do this, this, this,

this, this, this. I think that, I think that. Do you follow him though? Yeah, I follow him. Cause I also like, I noticed like the first five people are always people i follow

and then it's a bunch of people who i don't even know who they are yeah yeah yeah well i mean don't show me those i don't care but the craziest thing about instagram that it's fucked up and you had you had to call this out uh to me where it's like people i didn't know existed five seconds ago all of a sudden i'm furious that they don't follow me like oh I know like oh yeah especially there's there's I literally there's two comics who don't follow me and I'm in the whole world

it's just like I just care so much that two comics in particular do you like their photos like just like going to liking spree and they'll follow you because I'm a fucking petty bitch and I appreciate that I do follow them but i don't like their shit okay just then you can also unfollow them and refollow them that's like how i give people a second chance i'll be like oh you must not have noticed that i followed honestly wow that's that's something that i might

try yeah well it's embarrassing when you unfollow somebody because they like broke up with you but then you get back together and you follow them again. And you like embarrass you. Try to follow them back at like 3 a.m. And then they text you like, Mo, we're back on Instagram friend train, buddy. Oh, fuck off. Yeah. All's forgiven.

You don't miss that damn thing. There you go. That doesn't count. No. But no, this is insane. And it's fun when all your crushes are clumped together. Oh, my God. It's crazy.

It's like, what is the universe telling me? It's psycho. I was like, it is the universe telling me? It's psycho. I always think it's a sign. But then it always puts ideas in my head because people I never thought of keep looking. And I'm like, does this person have a crush on me? Yeah. And then I'm like, oh, my God, this person's obsessed with me. Well, the thing is, too, that can be extremely misleading because I had a crush for a long

time this year. And this person was always the very first person to watch all my stories. And they were always number one and still to this day, even though I don't really have a crush on them at all anymore. Like they still will pop up first, first, first, first all the time. And I'm like Instagram get I just want to like literally sit down with Instagram and be like, hey, girl, I'm good. We're fine. We can move on. And also who knows? Like sometimes I'll watch people's stories and I'm good we're fine we can move on and also who knows

like sometimes I'll watch people's stories and I'm not really paying attention right so who knows what they were doing on the other side

of that phone you know what I mean I'm thinking like they're in love with me they keep watching it but then they could have just been in the grocery store

happened to scroll not even looking at it it's just their social media habits like that that allow them to be popping up. It's the same people are always popping up in your story.

I do wish you can just tell Instagram, like, hey, we're not, this isn't a thing anymore. Don't worry about it. I'm just going to sit down with them. We're going to look into it. We're going to look into it. Yeah, they should do an Instagram, like MySpace top 10, top 20,

that you want to feature. I feel like I'm missing a lot of people. You know, I follow, like, 2,000 people. I only see, like, 15 people. And the timeline isn't, like, by time. No. It's just, it's, you'll see a post that was, like, three days old. And you're like, why are you showing me this shit?

And then if you start following someone, you'll get, like, a bunch of their posts altogether. I'm like, okay, I didn't need to know their history. Exactly. It's fucked up. It's like, December 28th, why am I seeing Christmas Eve photos? Yeah. Yeah. It's that thing anyway

oh my god what a fucking episode I loved this this is a tour de force amazing cultural touchstones I think we covered everything we covered sex culture anal sex culture anal we covered sex culture anal

and books I was gonna say like like hair body face sex culture anal love that love that and also how to be creative how to be creative we talked about process

we talked about social media prostate and process that's title of it oh shit prostate and process I thought it was gonna be slamer well they don't have prostate I thought it was gonna be slamers

correct oh my god I don't I wish I did phantom hole phantom hole phantom hole phantom hole

write that down. H-P-E. Phantom Hole. We need to start using Slammer. I was so on board for that. Slammer. Slammer is good. Okay, we have to say no slamming.

No slamming. It's actually rule of culture number 18. No slamming. No slamming going forward. And you gotta listen to the Guys We Fucked podcast. Guys We Fucked. Thank you. And Two Less Only Girls with Rosebud Baker.

That's Corinne's other podcast. We love Rosebud. You guys are truly fucking awesome we love you so much thanks for having us this is a fun friendship that's so fun

we didn't get to get into this but wait maybe quick what so when I told no I can't what

so when I told that story when I told that story about that guy that I dated on Long Island that when I was 19 I lost my virginity to him girl the thing about guys we fucked many thousands of people listened to it so that got back to him and he was not happy uh well you didn't call him out and i was like you know what he mentioned my name did not mention him i did not mention anything by name but i kind of was like it

happened to you was your story too and you know what then i talked to my friends about it and they were like he's literally yelling you for having a bad experience at his hand. And I also, I just like, and I was like, okay, yes. But it was weird because I was like, we were talking before about like, we didn't want to talk, get too personal on the pod because we've learned some lessons about doing that. But that was crazy because I like, that's, I left that being like, okay, I have to watch what I say now. But I was like, no, it was something I went through and I shared it.

Yeah. And it opened up a good conversation about those kinds of relationships yeah and I think my role is always like I don't want to tell somebody else's story but if I will

like I went to a sex club with this guy that we did anal with last night and I wanted to talk about it but I didn't want to tell his side or things that happened

with him I just wanted to talk about things that happened to me that's fair because I didn't want him to get upset and it was perfect

because he does listen which is whatever but yeah it's personal stuff that you guys get into but that's neat that's like a neat good tidy idea I like that a rule of like just talk about your experience and then that's it also you mean like he was trying to control

a story that was about controlling like why people never change yeah I know it was pretty crazy I was kind of like oh so this just goes to show the fact that like I shared a story that was like and this thing looking back kind of was fucked up and the instinct wasn't to be

like hey I'm sorry yeah it was like how dare you I was like okay well sure I mean whatever but you can't we end every episode with a song thank you Karina and Christina for being here

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