Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Pop Star Deep Dive Spectacular" (w/ Benito Skinner)

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

This week, the wonderful Benito Skinner (@bennydrama7) joins Matt and Bowen to discuss all things POP. They dissect their favorite pop stars and albums, Benito's astrology videos, his attendance at the Savage Fenty show, and more!MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dog. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. FOREVER! DOG! I have an update. He has an update. I stan Selena Gomez now. I thought you were always on board. Well, I always appreciated that she is catering to what I call her army of gays. Because if you listen to the Selena Gomez oeuvre, she knows she has gays a-stompin'. Yeah, but that's not specific to her. That's like every woman who sings. Right, but actually, I don't know. Not every woman who sings. Yeah. And that's like Not specific to her That's like every Woman who sings Right but actually I don't know

Not every woman who sings Yeah And that's what they're called And that's debatable For Selena Which I'm saying is like Part of her appeal Is that she cannot sing

And yet she puts out these Bops She cannot sing She cannot sing But it's important But she's really good At being a singer I think she's really good

At being a celebrity Yes That we care about And are tuning in for because i care so much about her we care so much we care deeply it's actually real culture number nine we care so deeply about selena gomez gomez gomez now what's your thesis can i tell you she's not a good singer yes and she's sort of but she is very good did you see the lose you to love me video i didn't uh the one that was shot on an iphone iphone and also look at her now the second

single is also shot on iphone that's her that's like her thing right now okay dickinson morning show yes honey apple plus fish which i will also touch on that. Okay. But let me just say, I'm absolutely standing. Yes. Lose you to love me. In fact. And I listen to it every day. And you tweeted that yesterday on the flight back to New York.

You brought your phone with you into the toilet. Into the restroom to take a poop on planes, which is something I'm exploring now in my late 20s, taking poops on planes. You've never taken a poop on a plane? I would say that in my life up till my late 20s, I was afraid to take poops on planes and now I'm unafraid to take poops on planes. You've never taken a poop on a plane? I would say that in my life up until my late 20s, I was afraid to take poops on planes, and now I'm unafraid to take poops on planes.

What is it, the suction? It's the sound? It's just really the sitting down of it all on the seat that's been used by approximately a million people before me. Babe. You know, you just gotta suck it up. You just gotta suck it up.

Well, not really suck it up. You gotta poop it out. Poop it out. But okay, so anyway, to move away from graphic content and more towards Selena content. So Lose You to Love Me, I feel, is a good song that I love. And I'm not surprised to hear it went number one. But then you hear Look at Her Now.

And you have to respect. Okay. I haven't heard look at her now suffice it to say we have a friend a friend of the pot has written the third single okay

and someone at this table may have caught a little sneak peek oh and it might I might say you might have something

to look forward to I might say you might have something to look forward to I might say you might have something to look forward to okay

readers and Bowen Yang oh okay and guests and even the guests but before we get into the guests let me just touch on one other piece of Apple culture Something to look forward to. Readers and Bo and Yang. And guests. And even the guests. But before we get into the guests, let me just touch on one other piece of Apple culture.

And I want to ask you if you've indulged in this Apple culture. Go ahead. The morning show. Kelly Clarkson's in it? Kelly Clarkson plays a small part in an episode of the morning show where she sings as herself. And she tells Reese Witherspoon's character, whose name is please hold, hold on to something. Bradley Jackson,

that she's a truth teller and she stands with her. So basically Bradley Jackson played by Reese Witherspoon is a conservative journalist who goes viral on Twitter. Yes, we are starting a storyline in the year 2019 with a clip went viral. Yeah. And the morning show begins with a clip went viral. Yeah. And the morning show begins with a clip going viral of Reese freaking out in the field at some sort of coal mine protest.

And then she becomes suffice it to say, one thing leads to another. She becomes Jennifer Aniston's co-host on the morning show. Right. Three episodes later, Kelly Clarkson is in it saying she stands with Bradley Jackson who's a truth teller. So then Kelly Clarkson is playing herself as a conservative like... Sympathizer.

Sympathizer? Yeah. Okay. And how do you feel about that? Singing a single from two years ago. Wait, what did she sing? I need more heat from you baby. Make me feel weak for you baby. And I'm like what is going on in this alternate universe

that is this? and the show is I haven't watched more than the first episode but it is rough in the first episode have you indulged I haven't I haven't

done much of I haven't really touched the Apple TV stuff Shonda looks like shake a spear like a shake a spear to what is happening on the morning show

damn but I'm still gonna give it a shot because and don't come for me for being negative readers because who wants to love the morning show more than us? Absolutely. Oh, we're still rooting for the morning show. We are still rooting for the morning show.

Is it like network, but it's morning? Basically, it's literally like- Like going viral. That feels very network to me. Well, you can't believe the whole going viral of it all, but that is how they choose to start the show. No videos go viral on Twitter anymore unless it's a damn front-facing video.

Unless it's a damn Natalie Walker, Megan Stalter, Rachel Winnitsky. Rachel Winnitsky moment. Come on. Okay, or if it's our guest's damn Insta. Damn Insta. Okay, and first of all, let me say, the morning show is as if the Today Show

happened to Jennifer Aniston. So imagine if Jennifer Aniston was Savannah Guthrie. Picture that. Now picture the morning show. So she basically plays a Katie Couric, Savannah Guthrie type who wakes up to find out that her co-host has been MeToo'd very badly and is

fired. Steve Carell. In a very cuckoo performance. Broad, kind of crazy. And then they're looking for another co-host for her, and Bradley Jackson, played by Reese Witherspoon, goes coal mine viral. Bradley Jackson.

Bradley Jackson, which is like, how do we really flip names on their heads? Let's name the character Bradley. But anyway, then they become co-hosts, and it goes on from there and Kelly Clarkson cameos love that I

am so excited our guest is here you are and I am I think he really touches people's hearts he gets it he gets it

people get people ourselves included go crazy you know I have to do a shout out yeah cause about two years ago

actually like a full couple years ago yes our our nico our friend nico our nico our nico said you have to get he was referring to this person as benny benny drama seven he's like you have to give any drama on the pod yeah i was like let me check this out and then i checked it out and i said this might have to be someone for the pod. Oh, absolutely. And since that time we've met and the last time,

and the last time we were in the same room as him, it was at the bell house. And he literally watched you and me get into a huge verbal spat. What was the spat? It was, I had said, Matt, you just screamed at me on stage and that really hurt my feelings.

And then you were like, what? What are you talking about? I'm being characterized as a huge bitch. No, it was not a bitchy fight. I'm not trying to portray you as anything but a friend and we had a very

meaningful conversation. We had a meaningful conversation. Did you witness? He's not yet able to speak. We have to bring him in. We have to bring him in and first of all, I just want to retroactively

apologize for any kind of spat. Oh, absolutely. And I apologize as well. I feel as though, now I'm going to get real. Okay. We have not seen each other.

We have not seen each other. It was your birthday but three days ago. And I spent it with you. And you came to do Game Show. I came to do Game Show. Which we shot. It was so fun. For Quibi, coming in April. So fun, but three days ago. And I spent it with you. And you came to do Game Show. I came to do Game Show. Which we shot.

It was so fun. For Quibi, coming in April. So fun. I'm so excited. And your episode was wonderful. And the fact that you spent your birthday with us. I wouldn't have been anywhere else. And you flew all the way out there just for that.

Yes. And I also think you're growing out your hair, and it looks really good. No, I hate the length. Don't. Well, okay. Why did you say that? Then I stand with you. Cut it.

We're fighting. Cut it. Okay. Cut it. I say cut. But let's bring our guest in. And I stand with you. Cut it. We're fighting. Cut it. Okay, cut it. I say cut. But let's bring our guest in and I really want his take on it because I went home thinking, damn, Benito saw us fighting.

Well, I think that he understands relationships. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's one thing we can say about our guest. He understands relationships. He understands the complexity of the human dynamic.

Dating an astrological sign and be like, we gotta talk about this. We gotta talk about this. And so there's some dating fun happening over here on your end. On my end? And on our guests' end too.

Okay, maybe we'll talk about love lives. Love lives. Let's welcome into your ears, Benito Skinner. Hi. Oh my God, it's so hard not to talk. Now you can. You know I'm in Selena stands

Now how do you feel about the new Selena music I like it but she had me at hands to myself Yes We stan I was like oh this is I was still in the closet when that came out Wait that was fairly recently Low key yeah it came out like three years ago

Oh my god And how old are you now 25 And you've just folded into it so easily yeah we just we let it we let it all out we let it out quickly and now we're full blown akinzi nine oh broke the meter on well i got this recently it was like what um like on some weird i don't know this photographer was like hey what um level of gay do you feel you are it's just i'm like doing a study it's an important question what level of gay do you think i was just like

a 10 like i'm like what who's answering age like that's yeah i don't know well you know these days there's all such a level she's a 10 there's of course it's it's know, these days there's all sorts of levels. She's a 10. She's a 10. Of course. It's no long. It's all. And I loved your fight. I thought it was really. What do you remember from it? You used words in ways that I was like just sitting there. I was sitting there next to.

I think Pat had just. Yeah. Honestly, that also means that you must be family because we felt comfortable enough. Oh, yeah. I thought the same. Yeah. And I was like, I was just sitting there. I obviously listened to this pod.

So, but you just used words in ways that I do not. I'll just be mad at someone for years and never say why, but you were like, that specific moment when you said that and you looked at me, I was like, wow, that's really well done. He's nailing what he's mad about. See, but as a Scorpio, I was shocked on your end.

Oh my God. No, Bowen is a very good communicator, and here's my thing. I can get, in the moment when I'm cornered I can get a little bit Pisces defensive a little bit and I go

what are you talking about yeah okay dude what do you have to clear up Matt I just want to clear well it's not a clearing up it's just I just want to say

that Bowen and I have become very good clear communicators anytime there's an issue we address it yeah and if it gets heated

then that's fine but we're addressing it. And that in communication is a form of intimacy. Yes, it is, honey. And in that moment, we fucked. And we fucked in that moment. I also want to say, just to clear it up, I think sometimes when you get on stage,

you can get a little carried away in the persona. And I didn't separate the stage persona with the personal persona. Yes, because let me tell you something. When this podcast ends, you should hear my voice gets deep. I grow a beard. I've become someone else.

You're actually straight, which is actually my favorite thing about you. One of the most iconic things about me is that I'm straight and Bowen's white. Oh my God. These characters of Matt Rogers, I'm using quotation marks, and Bowen Yang.. Oh my God. These characters of Matt Rogers, I'm using quotation marks and Bowen Yang. It's performance.

It's all performance. Oh, anything, anything Selena related. Oh wait. Yeah. Yeah. We were on a Selena tear.

Oh God. Yeah. I just, I could talk about her forever. I wouldn't say I'm like a massive Stan. Like I, I don't know if I would ever like see her live. I don't think I necessarily need to.

That's kind of ridiculous. We don't need to be doing that. That's absolutely ridiculous. But, um, yeah, I remember. Okay.

Well, as a, like, I guess when did wizards of Waverly place come out? Oh, I definitely watched that. 1982. Yeah.

1982. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, no, I just remember like convincing all of my like straight friends at the at the time that A, I thought she was beautiful. Well, she is. Or no, I think I said hot at the time.

She's so hot. And I could not stop telling everyone how good of an actress I thought she was. I actually stand with you. I stand with you there. She's good. She's a good actress. And I think it's actually kind of trage that she decided to go the pop star route. We discuss this sometimes. We do and we talk

about how Spring Breakers is really special because of her. Genius. That moment on the bus where she's crying. I remember I was like in college and I was like she's incredible. This is like nomination worthy. This is nomination. Now I'm like okay I don't know about that but still

that movie is. I mean people have been nominated for less. Hard fact. That's a hard truth. Also, let me say, in the Lose You to Love Me music video- I have not seen the video yet. You gotta see the video.

Shot on iPhone. It's fully shot on iPhone. It's in black and white chic, okay? Forward thinking. First woman to ever do a black and white music video to Cam, ever. Should I know Connor Erasure happening here on the pod? Lord didn't?

No, I don't know her. Oh, absolutely. I don't know her. Ever since Billy Eilish happened, I don't know her. Yeah, what? Just kidding. I stan you, Lord. Miss her.

Miss her. But Selena sits in front of, I guess what is supposed to be like a mirror, but really is the iPhone. And she sort of like very truthfully delivers the lyrics of the song and I'm like this girl is giving you the truth it's power there's power and there's power in that okay she can deliver I need to watch this she was really into so she did a few songs which I thought were great and she had those little Petra Collins videos that were yeah that was amazing and then what was the one

like the it was like a year and a half ago and you thought an album was coming and then she's like actually just kidding was it also called

Bad Guy speaking of Billie Bad Liar oh I love that one I'm a bad liar that's a great song that was oh baby let's get

yeah that oh baby let's get the thing about yeah that's cute I love it and honestly and that it was great yeah it's very good and also she does serve some good videos and some interesting hairstyles and i love sort of the mane she has right now i love like a middle part with thick heavy waves and like a sort of moment i think that's very gay oh yeah i love like a thick mane gays love length oh absolutely or or no hair at all or shaved exactly i'll only compliment full length or a full fucking

and i'll just say only you could pull that off like every time i'm like how do you do it it's only you but there was um there's um there's that's the thing about selena is and we've talked about this i think on our group on our little group chat we have called well it was called twink corers and then several of us have switched over to becoming but more bottoms and so now it's called the cord we are the cord we're getting cord yeah yeah which is a huge movement in my life which has been i've been discovering my butthole and it's been huge and not my butthole mass it's just bigger than it was absolutely um but anyway um so we were discussing selena yes and i think joel can booster said pose to the group what is selena's most iconic vocal moment i think it's i mean i could have but i mean i could but why would i

want to i feel like you have to give it to that. But someone else had another opinion. I think it was Joel because he's so contrarian and stupid. I like In Come and Get It. Or When You Ready. What's that song? I forgot about that. If you're gonna come and get it. Her Bollywood pop anthem.

We were all like, yeah. You got this. Clearly a Rihanna reject. Very that. A Michael made it reject from Rihanna a Michael made it reject from Rihanna. Michael made it reject from Rihanna. But in that song, I like, um... It's not a vocal thing.

It's just completely produced. But she killed it. She did that. She totally killed going into the studio that day. I feel like the new one's very vocal I listened once I'm gonna cover it Wait there's a bunch of Bieber drama with it too Well it's fully about him

Everyone's like girl move on But now she's explained in interviews with Yes say his name Ryan Seacrest She said in an interview with him that she wrote this song three years ago or several years ago and just didn't have the courage or ability to sing it until now wow okay she's finally letting her down in a way that and look at her now and look at her i hope it's about zedd. Like, in my heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I like her Zedd songs, too.

Wow. I'm telling you, she knows she is in her army of gays. Yeah, she definitely does. Every time I see her name pop up, I listen to the song. Wow. I at least want to be like, oh, that's this bitch, dog. Yeah. And it's always like, oh, pretty good.

Okay. Good producer still. Good girl. The Zedd song, yes. Thank you for reminding me, because that's a very good song. Do it. I want you to know that it's a time you and me.

Okay, wait. Who are your tops? Okay, I feel like you love Lana. Yeah. And you love Brittany. I love Brittany. Who else? Who's in your little canon?

So my four horsemen of the apocalypse. Yes. Or slayers. Absolute slayers. Absolute slayers. It's Lana is like kind of always my number one yes

yeah she has this I keep thinking about it every now and then she hits a bad note every now and then okay more like every damn day

don't attack her don't attack her right now she'll just go duh and like it happens every now and then I want everyone to listen for it it's my favorite

on the records or on like live I think on this past record, she does it once. Wow. Where she'll go, and it's like, it's the best sound.

Yeah. I love also that Kim Petras is in her Charlie XCX song and she's like, hey bitch, I'm still going to do it. Yeah. We're still going to add it in. I just saw Kim on Halloween in LA.

It's only gay. It's only queer people. I mean, talk about an army of gays. Biggest Grindr meetup. Oh, fully. And also, she's got a full relationship with Grindr. My friend Patrick Rogers works over there. Shout out to Patrick.

And they are partnering together and will take over the world. Oh, absolutely. As they both... I mean, Kim is... God, I can't wait for Grindr to pop off. Oh, it's about to Oh my god In a big way

Okay and then I have Gaga I love Gaga Thank you Thank you very much And then My fourth is Rihanna Rihanna

Rihanna Those are good Those are really good four Yeah it's a good four And you're very verse Thank you so much In your taste Yeah I try

So let me ask you a question Yeah What are your predictions Yeah It's time So flat and let's get to it can we just talk we're all shaking our hands okay fuck alright listen I want to know your predictions for what's going to go down with Rihanna

next okay so oh my god did you go to Savage Fenty yeah oh my god it ruined me and so they took our phones they took our phones and i also thought um i thought like you needed to dress up like i thought i you looked great thank you i thought it was red carpet it absolutely was not and it was like i'm just in a pink suit yes so i sit and um i wasn't allowed to bring a guest yes because oh that would be ridiculous and they

took all of our phones and i think all the people who are sitting around me were literal like it and um i wasn't allowed to bring a guest yes because oh that would be ridiculous and they took all of our phones and i think all the people who are sitting around me were literal like lingerie influencers wow so these girls were like devastated they couldn't use their phone like it i think it ruined the entire night for them like they weren't watching and also they were like what does it matter that i can see it they're like like, what? I have to describe this? With words? We had to wait like an hour before, and I could just watch them just like sweating and just pacing.

And I was kind of like, this is super peaceful, honestly. I'm just staring at this set, which I just need to know what that costs. I'm just like, I'm always curious of like a stage. I'm like, how the fuck? How many people made this? It was insane. Like the production was crazy. Can I ask, were there like a stage. I'm like, how the fuck? How many people made this? It was insane. Like the production was crazy.

Can I ask, were there like a lot of stop downs or was it, did they just present it as the show that we saw? Or was there a lot of resetting? It was, no, they didn't. It was literally live. Like nothing was changed. I even thought, cause I'm a psycho.

So Bella Hadid did Stumble. Like you could see her little like cape sure sure sure we have your number Bella yeah hope you're listening little girl

but no she she had to like rip it out and I when I saw it I was like oh they'll cut that and they didn't

and I was like okay Rihanna it's gonna be real it's the show yeah sorry I want this show to make everyone

feel comfortable even the girls that fall literally I want all the girls that fall. Literally. I want all the girls that fall to know they can wear lingerie. You can make mistakes. But when I watch stuff, I yell. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Everyone else in the audience is silent. So I'm next to, you know, like two full influencers. Yes. During, like, when Rihanna, the light hit her, I was like, ah! Like, I went nuts. How could you hit her I was like like I went nuts I was like bitch work and all the people around me were just sitting there like silent

and just trying to look good and it was like it was just a very interesting whole experience and I couldn't like I just had to tell people like yeah it was really good but I have nothing you know no like photo or no one to enjoy it with necessarily sure was the point that they were like

okay and then we're inviting all these people and then they're gonna talk about it so that buzz but it worked I think so I heard the night after it happened everyone was like okay so it's like it's every type of model in the fucking world every size every color every shape

there's an amputee and it's amazing and then Normani was there and finally Aquaria exactly and it was just like i was like okay well i'm gonna fucking watch this yeah i think that was definitely it i think that um also they knew that they had stacked it yeah and that also like i mean i i assume i mean amazon knew what they were doing yeah like had you know and they brought in like tons of like intense youtubers it was like james charles was like it was very they were like we want the internet to hear yeah yeah yeah um it worked but it really like when rihanna did the dance at the beginning she doesn't do choreo i watched the documentary about the whole you know how like they show like the making of before

the thing yes like i remember her being like yeah i think i could learn it like two days before she's like yeah i'll do it let's close my show like but then i i think what i respected the most was that like it was a full like dance show yeah which i had never you know i feel like i haven't seen that since like college i don't know what dance shows to do so it was like i mean yeah i was going crazy but the crowd part of the crowd was okay what was the highlight moment for you of the whole thing besides Rihanna? Because that was, that was amazing, but go. There was a moment. Okay.

So the people around me were all influencers, but the one to my left was Dixon from 90210. Oh, Jesus. From the Adele video. And I know that no one has ever turned to him and been like, I loved 90210. But I did. Like in high school, the reboot was my favorite. On CW. On CW. Yes, yes, yes.

It was right after Gossip Girl. And I was just like, oh, wait, this is incredible. Now I have my LA Gossip Girl. So I turned to him and I'm like, I just have to tell you, I love 90210. And he was like, honestly, thank you so much. It was like this beautiful moment. But then he didn't like really clap or cheer the entire time, which I'm like,

I, he just was staring. So, okay. So that's sweet, but he's, he might be dead inside. I was like,

was this hot to you, babe? I don't know. It was like fun watching it without it being like, I mean, it was so nice to have one person next to you that got it. Oh, totally.

Yeah. Yeah. We can't believe this. Like when Laverne Cox came out and was kicking her heels to the sky incredible yeah my jaw was dropped the whole time i was like i can't believe she did this how long did this take to set up and normani yeah she's oh my god talk about i mean that's like for me i think like the story of 2019 is normani is the emergence she was nowhere the year is not over was like just completely in the dark like all of a sudden that video came out and then i was supposed to know her and i was like okay i'm in

you know people in the you know what's crazy is we we were making jokes about normani we were like normani normani everyone was like uh everyone was like camilla's the star we were like no normani normani like just thinking like oh normani's a like a funny name but then no but she's the best part but yeah that's part of the work from home video for me. Without a doubt. I was being pretty earnest any time we were like, it's Normani, you guys. Well, then I actually checked out Normani, and I was like, oh, wait, Normani might actually be that real deal. Yeah.

And then once we saw, I liked her features, too. Oh, no, she's fantastic. But motivation is a whole other level. Yeah, it is. And you can tell how, no, she's fantastic. But motivation is a whole other level. Yeah, it is. And you can tell how like intense she is. Like I, I, I always like to see BTS.

So I want to know. And she's like very nervous before everything. She's like very specific. I feel that. She's a, she's an artist. She's a performer. You saw her,

you saw her VMAs too. I did see her VMAs. Oh my God. And that was crazy. Yeah. She, and she really brought it. Yeah.

The dancing. I, again, another thing, my boyfriend was with me at that so i could like yell with someone right and he's a big taylor swift yes my boyfriend is also a taylor stan he is we're together yes he is he also loves um well he loves gaga right he loves he he loves the girls the girls yeah because i've we've had an extensive conversation, I believe, about if John Wayne was the first single.

For John? For If It Was. Oh, If It Was. Yeah, I actually think John Wayne is a stand-up track from that album. I completely agree. Or if Gypsy would have been the first one for Art Pop. Oh. See, I think that...

Also, maybe a problematic song now, but at the time, that whole album... I love Gypsy. I love Gypsy. That whole album, to me, is amazing. Well, it holds up. I love it's it really holds up sex dreams and also like justice for gui which really has one of the best music videos of all time and no one seems to care no ahead of its time for having like beverly hills housewives play fucking loots and shit oh yeah and she's like oh yeah she's like it's a wink

she's like i wanted this to be like obscenely funny yeah i want it so dumb and she looks like donatella the whole time and she has that hair down to the ground and she was in versace ads at the time yeah this whole thing was so well but then people hated it people just i think that that was just the moment for gaga the whole art pop era was just the moment where people were like okay we're ready to do the backlash because once things yes it's like you know i always say whenever anything like really happens and it's beloved i feel bad for that person almost because it's like the backlash is coming like remember that like true year and a half long period where jennifer lawrence was everyone's favorite thing in the world

and now it's like exactly because she ate pizza and was like this bitch said the word shit on accident on Jimmy Fallon or whatever yeah like that's like her essence but now it's kind of just like oh everyone's like ugh lol Jennifer Lawrence like it's exhausting am I right and it's like well she's truly

the same person she was then and if anything she's kind of like alright well then bye for a little bit you guys are annoying as fuck right what it's like well she's truly the same person she was then fully and if anything she's kind of like alright well then bye for a little bit you guys are annoying as fuck right what she's

allowed to do Schumer had a really good Schumer Schumer Schumer Schumer she had a really

good interview I think it was with Vogue and she like said that because they were like what does it feel like to be

at the top right now and she was like oh I give myself like two more weeks and like this is what we do to women we'll just like you're gonna get sick of it and then everyone's gonna hate me and then the leather special came out and she was like oh i give myself like two more weeks and like this is what we do to women we'll just like you're gonna get sick of it and then everyone's gonna hate me and then

the leather special came out and she like pretty much it was true what happened like everyone came for her which i'm like that is now i see it now that it's been pointed out to me i see it with like every female in entertainment like holy shit okay yeah we really do do this oh fucking gea talentina baby she's a whole essay about the ideal woman. The parameters constantly shift in our culture, and then we put these people up on a pedestal and then immediately get uncomfortable once they're up there too long.

Yeah. That's also how you knew for a fact that Lady Gaga was not going to win best actress and like a star is born was not going to succeed at the Oscars in the way they all said it would because it was like, it's true. It feels like with Gaga, we can only give her like public adoration for so long until we have to say, well, she's now she's ridiculous. Oh, exactly.

Like, oh God. And once the Italian interviews came out, it was like, okay, yeah, we're done. Yeah. I, I'm constantly turned by her. okay, yeah, we're done. Yeah. I, I'm constantly turned by her. She's not put me off once ever. And lately she's been amazing. We quoted the tweet before.

Yeah. Do it. Rumors. Rumors. I'm pregnant. Word for word. This is it. Rumors that I'm pregnant.

Yeah. I'm pregnant with hashtag LG. When I read it first, I was like, is this like an ad for LG? I was waiting for an LG chocolate to come out. I was like, she's about to drop a cellular device. My name just happened to be called a cell. Like, what?

And then that, can you eat too much Chinese broccoli? That's my favorite. What is Fortnite? Oh, I think she took that tweet from me i say that once a day yeah honestly she's having fun right now she's a troll she's always been a fucking troll yeah but this is actually the thing about art proper that nobody talks about this is like actual investigative journalism that i'm about to like okay yes honey come on come on sunny there was there was a lot of reporting at the time from this journalist that nobody knew.

Her name was like, I can say this. She had some made up Asian name. Like Julie Chung, let's say. Okay. And then all of these articles were coming out. All these headlines were coming out. I'm like, this is the beginning of fake news. Because it's 2013 wow and all these headlines come out that say gaga sales tank for art pop uh gaga like blah blah blah like a million gaga wasted five million dollars on a promotional

campaign whenever there's a headline like this and you realize her name is gaga it's just like gaga tanks yeah yeah yeah it tanks. Imagine being alive in like 1900 like oh the Titanic will sail the seas. 100 years later Gaga tanks. Disgusting. But it was all this false reporting about how

poorly she was doing and how much money she wasted on the promo and then she was out here being like guys none of this is true. She's like my H&M campaign is killing my H&M campaign is a fucking slag yeah my Muppet special

just fucking killed I love that Muppet special me too I love the whole thing starring RuPaul I'm like filled with anger for this reporter because I'm like

I had to defend this was probably my last like by that time in college I was done pretending to be if I'm defending art pop I love that for me for me it was Circus to be sincere. Yes, I was at that point. If I'm defending art pop, it's out. I love that.

For me, it was Circus by Britney Spears. That was like the album that came out. And I was so excited for it. And I was like, wait a minute. Like my sister and I are like staying up listening to leaks. Like I got to. Yeah, I'm getting. Yeah.

But with this. Kill the lights. Kill the lights. Kill the lights. And Lace and Leather, you never forget. And. Where were you? Mannequin.

Oh my God. That whole album. That's her like best like themed. Yes. Like it is a full creative concept. Yeah, absolutely. Much like art pop. My favorite cover as well.

I love that. Well, there was a time when like all the girls were doing like. Lazy Eye? Perfect. Oh, so good. Remember when Pink had Funhouse and Britney had Circus this is some Kelly Clarkson tea

oh they wanted All I Ever Wanted to be called Masquerade and she was like I'm not doing that because everyone is doing some sort of

thing where we wear a mask and a tent carny yeah it was like carny and they wanted it to be called

Masquerade and in fact that like album art on All I Ever Wanted which is like that kind of like bright colors. Like she wasn't supposed

to be like in a leather jacket on my cover. It was supposed to be sort of like a masquerade moment. I would love to see Kelly Clarkson in Masquerade.

Well, honey, Las Vegas. It's coming. Las Vegas, honey. April 1st. You didn't know? Oh, I didn't know. That's amazing.

We gotta go home. This was just announced. Oh my God. I didn't. She's like making money wait this was just announced oh my god i didn't she's like she has money yes she has no kelly has never been bigger oh she's like before ellen which i had no idea she has the number four rated um daytime daytime talk show out of all 13 that are on the only people that are doing better than her and this is consistent ratings are ellen kelly and ryan and dr phil she does better than everyone else she's doing better than wendy i can do it what are they up to what they're doing is

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People dug into this journalist, and she doesn't exist. She does not exist. Someone, there was this little shadow campaign. Russia. Russia. A Katy Perry stan. But the reason why those headlines were getting so much play

and the reason why the narrative became art pop is a huge flop is because someone faked these numbers and then Perez Hilton would fucking retweet it. I know. And there were people that, like I said, there are people that are active in the backlash that want that person to fail. And also I think something that people forget

is that born this way was huge but one of the reasons why it moved so many copies is because they sold them for like 99 cents 99 cents yes and so they she sold like well over a million albums in the first week of that um period but it wasn't because she was there was a reason for that oh and then so any anything she had done after that was going to look in comparison like it wasn't as big and also it's hard to be to follow up anything when you're the biggest pop star in the world that's i think why adele takes such a long time is like flawless start to finish i mean monster is like i still listen to it for like every show i'm like a monster yeah should have been a single monster as as much as i would say as much as i

fucking love art pop and joanna i've loved all the eras i've enjoyed all the eras but you and this is we have to say her name lorianne gibson yes lori is due a lot of credit for the choreography the iconography yes the art direction the creative direction of gaga in those early days bad romance is oh i mean that video but and that's lorianne yeah it is lorianne this choreo oh yeah yep yep oh my god and honestly maybe that she would be nice to have on the pod because you know what else i fell into a wormhole i fell into a sick worm i don't know i think she's very busy and successful but i fell into a sick wormhole recently of making the band clips oh and she's making the band she was iconic on the day i got something for you yeah oh my god the scene in the boardroom when diddy is

breaking up the band and he's like i don't like your attitude and you're out and it's like the soundtrack goes and it's like close in on aubrey who's like okay cool i respect your decision i respect that and then the rest of the girls are like well i don't know and d woods is like well i'm gonna leave too and they go and she goes and he's he turns around he's like okay well you can leave too if you want to leave. She goes, okay, I respect your decision. And the three other ones are like, wait, hold on. I don't think we're a group if they leave. And he's like, well, your girls are making their decision, so what? And then they all leave and you get a acapella version of

Damaged, damaged, damaged, damaged. I thought that I could let you go. Wait, that was like spot on How did you Yeah I had a little spin there Yeah You had a little spin Getting very nervous

What does this have to do with Lorianne Oh she should make the bend That she wasn't there at the time And she had come and gone Out of making the bend I was just commenting That I had fallen into Making the bend wormhole

How recently Like as of last week Okay wow Cause I haven't seen it Since it was like literally on MTV. Oh, it's a trip to watch now. Or is it VH1? Is that MTV?

It was MTV. Great. O-Town was fucking obsessed with that album. Oh, yeah. Liquid Dreams. Liquid Dreams. I dream about a girl

who's a mix of Destiny's Child with a little touch of Madonna's hot style with Janet Jackson's smile. Janet Jackson's smile. Throw in a party like Jennifer. You got the star of my liquid dreams my liquid dreams

but you know that song is actually the perfect song that's an in the closet bop because it's like I love all these women Destiny's Child, Madonna Janet Jackson why did I miss this album? did I miss this album?

I think you're just a touch younger than us. That's not true. Microgenerational thing. Wait, is this the first Danity Kane? This is the first Making the Band band. They were a boy band. Oh, you're talking about O-Town. I'm a Danity Kane.

We're Danity Kane girls too, but O-Town was the first. O-Town was the first. I bought lemonade. O-Town was the first one. And then I think that he made like a rap group or attempted to make a rap group. Oh, did he did? Yes. Because I remember there was one female rapper named Mysterious that I was like enamored

with. And then she kind of like went somewhere else. And that group didn't happen. But Danity Kane obviously happened because they had some fucking hit songs like showstopper showstopping that video yeah we had a car we read slow and then just they gave everyone the wrong things that the girls won't do that's my favorite every girl has the wrong verse like she should have right another one and that's why it's perfect.

Like I remember there's the one. So there's Aubrey. And then there was another like very blonde. Shannon Becks. Shannon Becks. Yeah. And she looked like the girl from America's Next Top Model. She sure did. From like season two.

And she has like the rap in the song. It's like. And it's like, no, that wasn't her part at all. But love it. But she delivered. She delivered. She did. Here's the thing though i think andrea was probably the best singer d woods had had like it don is releasing music sort of now don is out there releasing music okay and aubrey is of course out there saying that her soulmate is Donald Trump Jr. She's the best. We fucking stan Aubrey O'Day in this house.

At the time, I was just like, she's just the fucking best. She's clearly the star of the group. She's the Nicole Schmitz. Yeah, she's the Nicole Schmitz. When she was on Celebrity Apprentice, she was very good. And yes, I absolutely watched. Yes. Oh, yeah.

I mean, Bowen Yang is a famous early Donald Trump I used to you're obsessed I used to love Donald Trump no I kind of agree during like the first

season of The Apprentice I was like this is fantastic I was really into it Omarosa Omarosa there was like one guy from Boise on it

and so we're like hometown hero oh my god there you go wait speaking of hometown, speaking of upbringings, let's ask Benito the question. Oh, yeah.

It's time to ask the question. Okay, Benito Skinner, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Like this is formative, something formative that you grew up with that you saw.

It could be like something as broad in general as pop stars or it could be like- He's going to be like Daddy D. Cain. Daddy D. Cain. Absolutely.

D. Cain. I think watching music videos as a kid like was a defining thing for me like on saturday and sunday mornings and like the lucky video is so like in my mind so i have it in my show like i just always think about it so i think like music videos of that kind of like you know mid to late 90s early 2000s era yes was like very much my start and i mean britney was like my first pop star britney was your girl so like went and bought oops i did it again oh yeah i remember the second copy there was a scratch on it like i mean just psycho shit i remember the store i bought

oops i did it again and baby one more time yeah i i remember like it was like sam goodyear what's it was like a virgin record store but i remember i remember like that was like Sam Goody or what? It was like a virgin record store. But I remember, I remember like that was like that iconic time when you'd get in the car and go to the store and buy the album. Oh yeah. Day of, or maybe your parents would pick it up at Costco. That was huge. And then so much cardboard for no reason.

Cause they wanted it to be like, right. Remember that? Like all the cardboard and sometimes they would like decorate it. So I saved the Britney cardboard for like ever. I had all the dolls. Like it was, i think that was like my first yeah that was my first like entrance iconography and then as far as like shows it was like lizzie mcguire right so great it's like this is so well written like the stories are all so good yeah did you did you think

that when hillary duff like started to do music because this there was a big narrative at the time of like hillary Duff is the next Britney Spears did you see that for her? no I never saw that for her but I loved her music I thought Metamorphosis

was Metamorphosis why not why not um making Larry Owens sing that song on his phone was like

I mean yeah I think a little painful for him but it's okay oh yeah I think Hilary Duff is probably i think not his favorite probably his enemy not his favorite uh pop star by any means i saw she was my first concert though and i remember

going oh that's a good one she didn't really have any like she was just wearing a black tank top black jeans and a ponytail and i was like okay she's not this isn't like you know she's not gonna do the theatrics which is what i like i want to show so i was like you know she's just this is like a fun side thing for her she's an actress she's an actress yeah but I loved you know I bought

Speak Now I even still Taylor? sometimes I'm like no oh no no no wait Speak Now by Hillary?

Hillary that's like one of her albums oh yes I knew this or is it Speak it's like something like that it's definitely Speak

it might just be called Speak I think it's Speak yeah yeah yeah and I remember like the cover and that's when she got her veneers right the veneer those were i feel like her veneers all the time look we we saw

her a couple years ago at tribeca film festival oh no no she hugged us she was one of the only celebrity we interviewed her wow and she was one of the only celebrities that that gave us a hug okay i don't know what i would do if i would't be there. I think I'd probably cry. I have to tell you something. I'm going to cry. Speak was Lindsay Lohan. Oh my God. Speak was Lindsay Lohan. What's hers?

Hers is Metamorphosis, Breathe In, Breathe Out, Dignity, Hilary Duff, self-titled Most Wanted. Most Wanted is what I'm thinking of. Is the greatest hits. That was her greatest hit. And absolutely, she's like, two albums out, greatest hits. Greatest hits. Let's do this.

Lindsay Lohan albums. Speak raw. Speak. Speak. And then her second album, of course, the iconic, a little more personal, in parentheses, raw. Raw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That video where she's in.

Da da da father. Da da da father. I remember watching that being like, wow. There is belting happening in that song. She was blonde. Yeah. Yes, she was. Right.

I was always so mad. It's like such a, I was always so mad when they changed hair colors. Like when Britney was brunette, I i would just be it would ruin my week which is probably why britney has to work so hard you know like poor fucking britney and i'm like you bitch like i remember in the blackout when i saw the cover i was like oh man this is not it i was so mad same and then it took me a little bit to like get over that hump and be like, oh wait, this is an incredible album. Oh, the album is flawless. Flawless.

Start to finish. I frequently reread the Rolling Stone review of it because they're like, wait, it's actually so good. Yeah. And there's a great moment in Break the Ice where it's clear that she's just hearing the song for the first time. I like this part.

Yeah. I like this part. And it's like, wait, she definitely said that the first time they did it. And it's just, oh, it's just like the whole album. They essentially just gave these producers free reign. They were like, you can do whatever you want.

Just don't bring up what's going on with her. Just go. And they did it. It was Shellback. Danger. Danger. Danger. Danger.

Shellback, who writes all of Taylor Swift's new stuff. Oh, yeah. And Dr. Luke. That was like Dr. Luke's first big. No, it's whatever but didn't he touch the charlie's angel soundtrack i just saw that just oh well honestly here's the thing i know this is something that bothers me on a regular basis that if kim petras is on it then dr luke probably is not far behind which it's rough i think it's i think it's a thing about kim that sucks yeah how. How is he still, like, where is he working from? I'm just like, I don't know.

It doesn't matter where he's working from. He's just working. Yeah, I'm like, I just picture him in like a cave. Like they sent him, you know, the vocals and then he, ugh, yeah. Because Kesha is still on that contract. And she has to do like, what, two more albums before she's let go. It's something like that. How is the new stuff?

I haven't heard it yet. It's like she's back to making skank pop. Oh, I'm into that. I love. I mean, the country stuff was fun. But I'm not a country guy. So I was like, I like TikTok. Yeah.

I mean, I really loved her first two albums. Oh, Cannibal. I mean, and how could you not? Physical copy Cannibal. I was like, oh, this is just fucking. How did she beat the first one? She did it. first two albums oh i mean and how could you not but but because they're so funny cannibal yeah it was like oh this is just being how did she beat the first one she did it no she did it no my blow i was just gonna say i think blow is my favorite song of hers outside of um your love is my drug i think your love is my drug is like geniusly written it's like oh it's perfect it's not to like yeah not to like sit here and continue to stand like dr

luke or anything he's a monster and like shouldn't be around but no those i am happy that she's back to doing music like that although i did love um praying and i i did i really love woman yes oh i also um i do like that one that's like this isn't even funny get amen what is that one that's like, this isn't even funny. Get, what is that one called? Hymn. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I can't help it. I heard it.

I heard it first on Instagram with like in a Spotify video. And I was like, okay, this is getting added. Like, it's great. She likes this one. She likes this.

This is the Hymn for the Hymnless. Yeah. It's Jenna and the Rejects. I love it. I'm still like, yes. Her iconic vocal delivery of meow, meow. Has has that praying note has that ever been hit live i'm still i don't think she attempts it okay and this actually this this hints it's a crazy note

my i don't think so honey later my i don't think so honey later has to deal with musical notes that people cannot hit great love that i'm very excited to do it yeah that's unfortunately one of them well imagine like i'm i'm still waiting but i will yeah that's unfortunately one of them well imagine I'm still waiting but I will say that like I guess that is a reason why I appreciate

Ariana Grande because I do miss when these girls can fucking really sing belt that shit yeah the runs of Ariana Grande

I'm mostly a stan of the runs the runs yeah for sure especially on her Christmas songs oh yeah

her last Christmas is like anything I remember and then she'll be in the back like you sank it again it's like goes everywhere

and it's good exactly she just goes and I'm like damn she can go did you see her concert when she was just touring

no I'm so sad I didn't the sweetener tour was the tickets were bonkers she was proud of that yeah I was like god damn I dropped

I dropped dollars and cents to go see that but i will say the the live vocals were real yeah i even heard her sing seven rings and i'm not thinking that's a song that's gonna sound good live like i remember when lady gaga did like judas live on snl and i'm like okay that's not it like that just will never sound good live but she can even sing seven rings and make it sound good. Yeah. Like damn. Because it's damn Rodgers and Hammerstein, honey. Yes. It's got a classic.

I don't think she's made a cent on that song. Oh, yeah. I think they just are like, yeah, sure. Sure. We get 90%. They're having a moment right now. Rodgers and Hammerstein. No, but truly.

Someone had to say it. Someone had to say it. Rural culture number 30. They're having a moment right now. Rodgers and Hammerstein no but truly Chance the Rapper has this song

where it's his daughter singing Impossible from Cinderella and then he like samples oh my god yeah Impossible yeah Impossible

and then it's oh Zany's and Fools that's what it's called the track is called Zany's and Fools but it's like pulled from that song it's like

people are like rediscovering there's a revival of Rodgers and Hammerstein that's right like Oklahoma like it's happening I'm not lying you're speaking absolute truth

you know that there's going to be a new Cinderella with Camila Cabello absolutely you know who I heard is in talks to play the wicked stepmother? Tell us Idina Menzel because Billy Porter is the fairy godmother and I'll see you in a little while for my I Don't Think So Honey Idina Menzel I'll Billy Porter's the I know he's the fairy godmother

and I'll see you in a little while for my I Don't Think So Honey Idina Menzel I'll see you in a little while Idina Menzel I'll see you in I'll see you in just in about 20 minutes

oh okay wow that's gonna be I don't know if I needed another Cinderella right now but okay I'm like in for that

I heard it's gonna be a very Camilla Cinderella oh god just what I wanted Camilla Cinderella. Oh, God. Just what I wanted. Camilla was serving you acting. Yeah, right. See, I am sure about it.

Cry for me, cry for me. Cry, that's the one I like. Die for me, die for me. I liked her fake beef with Lana. That was my favorite moment. What was the fake beef? So Lana commented, what the hell, on one of her videos. No, I know.

We stan. I know, I'm obsessed. What the hell? And so she meant like commented what the hell on one of her videos no i know we stand i know i'm obsessed and so she she meant like what the hell this is amazing yeah yeah yeah and then everybody because the video did look a lot like lana's like oh shit and so everyone's like oh my god lana's fucking coming for this bitch oh my god lana's gonna kill her like i didn't mean it like oh it's my favorite that's so funny so that was like my big Camilla moment like I keep thinking about it I'm like what the hell I've been experiencing

a lot of Camilla lately I've been liking her new stuff I've been discussing it but on the topic I do love cry though cry for me

and then what's the other one easy easy is really good she has like five out yeah she's got she's put that like

little army of singles out like that's sort of like ep but not yeah which i don't know if i like that i'm like i like the one give me one let me have a moment with it yes she's got speechless liar easy and cry for me those are the four songs oh he he's off and of course the song with the senorita song with sean right oh on the topic of these beefs though it's's, this is, they're so delicate. We're in a really fragile place right now because remember when like, people saw like Casey Musgraves liked a tweet

that was like dunking on Taylor Swift and everyone flipped out. Yeah. And then she was like, she was like, and then Casey tweets, my Twitter got hacked, lying.

LOL. LOL. Dicker. I love a shitty lie. I love a shitty lie. And then me and Taylor just tapped on the phone and we're good

so guys like stand down but it was like people just people are insane people are insane Taylor Swift fans are particularly pretty intense

I mean I'm I'm dating one of them yeah it's just and I'm I'm definitely one of the more psycho Lana ones but I am gonna

I am gonna out him right now I'm gonna out Jared right now because literally like I think the Charlie XCX album came out. And he was like, so with Jared, it's like everything is either. Oh, so he hates Charlie because of what Charlie said about the tour? No, no, no, no, no, no. He absolutely loves Charlie. We even went to go see Charlie's concert.

Incredible. She had everyone come out to go to LA one. Apparently, she had the whole album. Oh, it was great. Kim was there too. Features the house. Kim is literally performing at High Tops right now she's out there yeah so she's actually ai yeah she's like she's she performs like to a point where i'm like you're a robot there's 19 kim's in in every major literally in the world yeah and she always looks perfect yeah truly and

also the live vocals oh they're they're there they're there. They hit, they hit hard. She is belting her tits off when you see her. And hard to break. I was like, okay, bitch. It was her like, why am I forgetting that?

You know, she, it was like part two of her coming back on stage. Why am I forgetting that term? The, the reprise. The encore. The encore.

The encore. The encore. Part two. The part two. Okay, Lord. Yes. She comes back and she like still had it. And I'm like okay lord yes she comes back and she like

still had it and I'm like you just sang you know 40 songs that are all similarly hard to sing it seems

they're all pop songs but wait I want to out Jarrett I want to say he started to stand this Charlie XX album this is like three weeks after

Lover had come out and we had I had been with him through the whole process and like it was a process for Taylor and like it was a process it was for taylor swift fans and it was a process difficult for them after me i know and it's been

hard yeah it's been a lot of defending it's not been the 2018 or two oh my god it's not been the 2019 that i think they thought it would be but so charlie xx album came out and he couldn't stop talking about it and i said but jared about lover? And he just turns to me. And in the darkest voice I've ever heard him use, he goes, he goes, I know what he says. Fuck lover.

I literally had to grab my heart in my chair. I was like, Oh my God, I was like, that was so, even, even when he was throbbing, I was like,

I've never, I don't even feel that way about it but he was like i'm over it and then i feel like because i feel yeah a lot of taylor stands were a little exhausted trying to pretend this album was as good as those that have preceded it yeah i think they're i think i've said this on the pod but i think there's a 12 song album in there that's good but it's just too long. It's five songs too long. Yeah. You know. But her,

some of her fans want that. Like the 16 year old girls in Atlanta and like they want a 40. I guess my question though. Here's my question. Does she still have those teen fans? I think she does. Absolutely. Yeah.

I think she does. Absolutely. She like has her and Miley do and Ariana really but then no one else from like our I believe her from Ariana because I'm telling you

I was at an Ariana concert and it was all gay men and six year old girls yeah she got Gen Z yeah she's got them she's got Gen Z

but it's like it's like Disney it's like kids still watch Little Mermaid let's say like movies that we thought were specific to our upbringings

in terms of timing now it's like she has perennial songs about adolescence that like everyone can relate to Taylor? Taylor yeah cause I do feel like

this album is the first one that's like really tried to be mature and I feel like she's even hinting at like I'm gonna marry you in these kinds of songs and not in a cute like propose to me way it's like let's even hinting at like, I'm going to marry you in these kinds of songs and not in a cute,

like propose to me way. It's like, let's make a commitment. Yeah. Exactly. A house. Yep. And invest in, invest in things together and we can have the same bank account.

It's like things that like kids aren't going to get. And I, and I don't think that is sort of too far removed from the reason why I don't think this album has much significant impact it doesn't have legs i mean london boy is tough i love the english i can't stop anytime i love it i went to london with my boyfriend and i could i couldn't stop saying it ruined the trip no god i love the like anytime they were rude because everyone in london is looking so rude this little guy at starbucks just could not stop making fun of me for my order because i like drink

a milkshake essentially oh me too bitch hold my hand yeah i saw you at a pub and i was like so good to see someone drink oh yeah i'm real bitch i'm so real oh later in the day i'm so fucking real you're so real um but no i would just be like this guy kept giving me shit and then right when we walked out of the cafe i just had to look at him and i was in england uh but yeah that is nowhere near the most embarrassing song on the album for me for me it's got for me it's got to be that fucking big little lies theme knockoff which is it's nice to have a friend oh oh i kind of find myself being like that's really cute no way it's so tough that album is tough no freaking way I loved Reputation

and I wasn't a fan of Reputation I love Reputation Reputation has only fucking bops like Dress is the first time she got fucked

Dress is it I'm like ooh Dress and even Gorgeous is like this is cute and then Delicate I'm like my heart stopped

Delicate's a classic yeah Delicate's a classic and also Endgame is my fucking like my song that i play oh my god i'm i'm big reputation yeah it's so good oh when she brought in like a kid's choir to say big

reputation i even like i remember when look what made you what look what you made me do came out i was like fuck this and now i'm kind of like then you saw the video oh the second the video came out i was like oh wait yeah i didn't think there was much new in the video but it was a lot i was like she's trying and i'm like kind of down the bridge where all the old like the all the old tailors are climbing that part was no i'm like how the fuck did you make this it was more like damn you really went to the label and you're like we're gonna spend 10 million dollars right now on this on this song that's definitely shouldn't be for a single but like let's do song that definitely shouldn't be first single.

But let's do this. I also love- She loves a shitty first single, for sure. She can't help it. This is, okay, but Benito brought up something earlier that I love, like single order. Yes.

Single order, hypothetical single orders. Let's talk about it. I assume never been chosen by a gay man because they're never right. No. And I know that we'd be right. Yes, we would always be right. I just know that in my heart, but it's like,

this is a, this is just a game that you can play at parties now. Okay. This is a, this is the new star or actress, everybody. Let's do one. Okay.

Yeah. No. Yeah. So like, we name it. Let's do lover. Here's my, here's my thing with lover because me,

we can all agree was not it. Yeah. No. And even you need to come down for me is like, actually I kind of like it as a second single, but here's the thing. I think when you listen to the album Lover, I understand that you want to give them something like up-tempo,

but represent the album. And so my thing is, I think the best song on Lover that is the most emblematic of Lover is Lover. And so I would have put Lover out as the first single. I think everyone would have been like, oh, this is a different direction for her i'm into it yeah that being said i also think my favorite song on the whole album i don't know if it should have been the first single but my favorite song on the album is i think he knows oh i yeah wow okay yeah yeah what do you think and the man is good good. Here's my three. The man.

The man is great. It's tough. It's tough to hear, but it's good. Agree with you. Love her, Cruel Summer, and then You Need to Calm Down

as third single maybe. Okay. Don't you also, now that we're talking about the man, don't you think it would be a little on the nose like, oh, she's releasing this song as the first single, but I bet it would have been a huge hit.

Huge. Especially with a good video. Yeah. I mean, she knows what she's doing though because when it came out, I feel like all of the been a huge hit. Huge. Especially with a good video. And especially, I mean, she knows what she's doing though. Cause when it came out, I feel like all of the Leo articles came out once upon a time in Hollywood came out like right with it.

So it was like, everyone's like, she's jabbing at Leo and she got so much press. So I feel like she just kind of always knows like once she leaves a song that's going to get press. Yes. Essentially. So I don't know.

I, yeah, I agree that lover should have been the first single because I think a lot of people were like the people who didn't listen to the non singles of reputation were like, okay, she's not the Taylor I grew up with. Yeah.

So I think it would have been a good, like, no, like she can still do this. And it is a beautiful song. And I love the video. I think that would have been a nice start. Me was like,

it's awful, honey. Um, I listened to it every now and then and I'm like, oh. Well, she took out the spelling is fun part, which I love. Which I love. Why did she take it out?

That was tough for me. I was like, spelling is, I'm just like, oh God, Taylor. I just have the tightest butthole when I listen to that fucking song. Spelling is fun. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, you're already panicking at the disco and the song, like keep it at that point.

Yeah, keep it at that point. yeah yeah a weird feature as well i don't know if i love a first single as a friend and that you make a good point i just don't know yeah yeah a feature on a first single is a weird move it's strange yeah i'm like that maybe is more of like a second single or i just don't think that song is a single but um right but yeah i mean and i also like their second single or i just don't think that song is a single but um right but yeah i mean and i also like their voices together yeah i just would prefer it and just as like a song in the album yeah sure yeah sure i would agree yeah let's do it for one more album okay what had a flop for a single oh let's do it for let's well not i don't consider it a flop at all but i guess because we were talking about it before let's talk about joanne okay because

perfect illusion i like but i do i think john wayne is an interesting idea i think perfect illusion scared people yeah yeah it was too and then it wasn't actually like what the album felt like at all so i think my choice is either john wayne or i low-key love come to mama come to mama is great wow as a single but i think think John Wayne as the first one is so, you know, the thing is, is I'm insane. No, I think John Wayne, just because of that video,

I think it's like, it really is like, she is going for this like Western Americana thing. So like, I want to see her fully commit with the first single. It's what the album feels like. I do love Million Reasons

as a second single. Do you love Million Reasons as a second single? Yes, John Wayne, Million Reasons. And then third, honestly, bump it up from bonus track, Grigio Girls, which I know is like two low tempo songs. I love Grigio Girls. I really do love that album.

It's a great album. Yeah, it's a great album. I don't love the cover, but that's okay. I do love the cover. I think I almost do. I just think it's like a little, I don't know. It's a little twee. It's a little like, yeah, I just wanted like a little bit more i just i don't know i with her i you know do you consider star is born to be a gaga album i do i i gaga ep sure yeah yeah i don't know

like it's i would say it's an era not an album i agree oh it's definitely an era the true like monsters they say era they say say like stars born era. They're like, what have you guys liked the best of this era? Like Stan Instagram is. I tried it with Kelly. I was like, I was like,

welcome to the meaning of life era. And everyone was like, what? No, but there are definitely some that are like, welcome brother. It's time. Wow.

Yeah. I, but I love the alley tracks. Like, I feel like that I mean like the cure they're all just trying to be cool

so I wrote this song in my head I'm not mad at the fact that yeah the whole it's just perfect it's like nice to not that she's like I'm just gonna make pop yeah

and I feel like she hasn't just like done that without like it can be almost bad which I think a lot of great pop is like almost bad so with Ally

she was able to write pop music in a very abstract way totally like it didn't match just write a write a good facsimile of a song

why don't you do that do that do that do that do that to me oh come on I mean the first part of that

we were like it's so hard like watching the movie and them trying to tell you that like she's gone bad when I'm like oh I don't see that at all yeah I'm like

she just performed on SNL she's really fucking good she got a Grammy I'm like come on she didn't sell out She's sounding great She has that bad red hair

Looking like fucking Halsey as fuck And then they're like We're gonna bring her out She gave her the Grammy Right? Yep, how great Art imitates life How great

My biggest regret When Halsey hosted, I wrote for her a How Great Ally sketch that just tanked at table. It was just her on set and her having to, her butchering the line. I love that.

I know. No one got no, everyone was like, why is this? Oh my God. How did this get to the table? Did she like it? I pitched it to her on Tuesday and she was like, why is this? How did this get to the table? Did she like it? I pitched it to her on Tuesday

and she was like, that's really funny. I was like, you know that gay people are upset. Or specifically film Twitter and stand Twitter loves that moment. She's like, oh yeah, I get it. She was great. Oh, good for her. Went over it with her.

She did what she had to do at the table but I everyone was like what the fuck is this it's actually rule of culture number 76 Halsey did what she had to do at the table anyway is it how do I say am I saying it wrong

Halsey Halsey Halsey I'm like fully trusting you and Which I'm like kind of into it. You said Halsey. Stop it. I just, I'm like fully trusting you in that. I'm like,

oh, I've been offending her this whole time. Halsey. Do you know it's pronounced Charlie? Stop it. Wait, before we move on to, I don't think so.

I do want to ask Benito, do you do, how much research do you do for each astrological sign before you? Oh, well, some I know a little bit better than others. I knew ours the most, obviously. Yes, Scorpio.

And I was just going to make that. I love Scorpio. Thank you. Do you feel that way? I do feel that way. You feel this way. I feel that way. He bites his lip.

I bite my lip. I'm not spooky-ooky. Yeah, no, exactly. They're supposed to be like, you know, insane. No, it's a caricature. It's so funny. Yeah, but there were some that i knew a little bit just because of friends i feel like i don't know if you feel this way but i just

know so many cancers like as a scorpio i feel chloe that exactly so i feel like that connection is what almost like sold me on astrology because i did notice that all the people around me were like pisces cancers and aries like every single like, oh, that's interesting. And an occasional Gemini. I know, I love that. I'm shocked though, because I don't think a lot of Pisces are like big performers. It's like you and Adele are it.

Wow. I think that's literally it, honey. Me and Adele are it. Literally. Next album, Adele. Next album, Adele. Yeah, but I don't, they're not usually as like extroverted they're more

sensitive and artistic yeah exactly like quiet creativity interesting i wonder if it's maybe my cancer moon yeah see that's where i think like a lot of like random things come from but i don't even i don't i that i start to get confused what is your what is your whole deal? Okay, so I'm... Well, it's a great time to be gay in comedy. So I believe I am Scorpio, and then I'm a Capricorn rising Gemini moon. Gemini moon. To be a Gemini moon. Yeah, there's like a lot happening here.

Yeah, Gemini moon. It's an interesting combo. Right, I think that just means that I am a Gemini moon, Scorpio sun, Libra rising. Oh, okay. Libras are funny to me. Pisces, Pisces rising, and my moon is Cancer. Okay. I'm water, water, water.

And the rest of my chart is dripping wet. Just fucking soaked. I'm fucking soaked. Absolutely. I'm like fucking, I'm fucking Kate Bosworth when she sees Josh Duhamel in Win a Date Hamilton. Win a Date Hamilton?

I went straight to her. I went straight to her. Win a Date Hamilton. I went straight to her in Blue Crush. I was just ready to be like, can we talk about Blue Crush? I was as wet as Kate Bosworth in Blue Crush. Her eyes. She's a gorgeous star. She's a gorgeous star. like can we talk about yeah i was as wet i was as wet as kate bossworth blue crush her eyes

she's a gorgeous star gorgeous she's a gorgeous star she only had to be in like three things and now she's just like at fashion shows which i love that career path for a lot of people it's so efficient it's so efficient yeah and never forget her as the racist girlfriend in remember the titans right yeah literally never for why are you hanging out with those black people is she why are you doing this is she wearing goslings no she's the guy she's the quarterback who gets hit by the

sorry spoiler alert sorry you guys spoiler alert remember the Titans what's great is that we no longer have to watch that movie now that we're out

yeah it was so hard pretending to love that I literally remember being in the theater being like no exactly I'm like

when are we getting out of here and going to chile yeah yeah uh it's it's like track night at red robin yeah but literally i was like who's that iconic girl playing the racist girlfriend can you do that impression again why are you hanging out with those black people come on let's go we gotta go drink in the in the parking lot oh i love like actresses like that being like racist Southern women. Like Kristen Dunst in Hidden Figures.

Oh my God. It's like, what? Like, okay. Bryce Dallas Howard in The Help. I'm like, I want you to clean my house. They just, they overact it, which is always, I appreciate it. Like I love anyone who just willingly just brings forth a raised eyebrow. Like, I'm going gonna fucking fuck it up.

Damn. Oh God. Bryce Dallas Howard in The Help opposite Octavia is perfect. Especially in the Eat My Shit scene. Eat my shit. And I think Jessica Chastain is perfect in that. Heartbreaking in that. Oh, Jessica Chastain's great.

And also, you know, of course we have Viola. Of course we have Viola. And Emma Stone course and Emma Stone with the curls little ringlets little curly soothes ringlet culture one of my favorites

Bryce have you lost your mind? I said eat my shit so good also not for nothing but

I stand Bryce Dallas Howard same Jurassic World we have a lot we have a lot of I stand Bryce Dallas Howard we have a lot of fun with Bryce Dallas on this show but of course she does what she has to do in those movies and the first one especially with that stupid haircut they put her in that is instantly iconic and that white

outfit and the heels running I will never I'll never let it go that the second movie they took her out of the shoe and the whole joke was like, she's not wearing heels the whole time. I'm like, no, she needs to. She needs to wear heels.

It's just the character. It's like, you know what? This is where you lost the gaze. And they gave her a ponytail? And for this reason and this reason only. They put her in a sensible shoe. We're only watching on an airplane now. They put her in a sensible shoe

and they pulled her hair out of her face. Big mistake. Huge. Big mistake. Because it's not like we didn't see her outrun the T-Rex in the first movie. So we know she doesn't need to wear the flats. She has those little Dr. Scholls in those heels that she had on set. Trust your actress.

Trust your actress. It was her choice. Also, not for nothing, but she gives you an iconic single tear when the Indominus Rex has its maw next to the car and she turns to the camera and she just gives you. One tear and one tear only. And I just did it in the room. I just cried one tear in my head.

Immediately. Immediately. Like Selena's in Spring Breakers. We bring it back. Yes, Spring Breakers. That one tear. You got to have that one tear. Although Constance Wu has 50 in Hustlers.

I'm concerned for her tear ducts literally I'm like wait don't cry anymore I can't and the way it was coming out was like not natural I was like

your face is leaking I know it was bad and her face just still looked perfect though which I'm like is that really crying I guess some people

look like that when they cry she did give you an iconic single tear in Crazy Rich Asians she did oh she did wait what was the scene again the stunning wedding scene the? The stunning wedding scene.

The wedding. Oh, the wedding scene. I just got chills thinking about it. I gotta watch it again. So good. What an iconic movie. And when is the next one coming? I don't know.

Bowen Yang, we gotta get you in that. We gotta get you in that. No, I'm simply mad that they wouldn't do it. For some reason, they're not like rushing it. I feel like they would just on anything that does really well where they're like we're

making every Twilight movie in the next three months they are rushing it because they're shooting the sequels back to back but releasing season

space see they always do that with the sequels and it's like okay no just like like Avatar yeah

like Avatar there's 12 Avatars that we have not seen are you an Avatar person I feel like I'm embarrassed but yeah I saw it four times I feel like you... I'm embarrassed, but yeah.

I saw it four times. I literally read your energy. I saw it three times. Are you kidding? I loved it. So much Pocahontas, Blue. Yeah, I was obsessed. People tell me I look like Jake Sully.

Oh, my God. Not Sam Worthington, Jake Sully. Jake Sully. Jake Sully. Okay. I guess. I do, I do. He's got the wide eyes.

Yeah. He's got big eyes eyes. Yeah. Uh, big eyes. The iconic song by Leona Lewis. Oh, forgotten time. Yeah. I mean,

I, I definitely like really thought that that was like a mega moment. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, this is, and I'm still waiting for the sequels and I'm going to that amusement park. Oh,

I've been, we've been, wait, what? We have been out. Yes. Bitch. See, I went to the star Wars one and I was, Oh yeah. Wait, I forgot. You guys go to amusement park. Oh, I've been. We've been. Wait, what? Oh, is it out? Yes. Bitch. See, I went to the Star Wars one

and I was, oh yeah, wait, I forgot you guys go to amusement parks. Yes, we do. In this house we go. We're Disney gays. We are Disney gays. I can't help it. Jared's a Disney gay too.

We both have annual passes. Next week to celebrate game show being wrapped, he said he made a reservation at Olga's Cantina and I cried. I cried. And that's called love.

And that's called love. Oh, can I bring that? Sorry, no. Actually, that's been a cried. I cried. And that's called love. And that's called love. Oh, can I bring that? Sorry. No. Actually, that's been a thing. I haven't said that word yet. Oh, my God. I almost did the other day.

And I was like, when do I do this? This hope is treacherous. I remember the first time I said it to my boyfriend, five minutes later, I was in the bathroom and we were at like a friend's,

a friend had like a gallery show like a bad one too it was just terrible and someone's banging on the door and I'm like okay relax and I open the door and he has thrown up like he is so drunk at this thing and I was like I literally just said I love you like

he said it back he's not gonna remember now we gotta redo that this is how I'm gonna remember it forever and I do remember it forever but it's kind of to remember. Now we got to redo that. This is how I'm going to remember it forever. And I do remember it forever, but it's kind of funny now. And I had to clean up his throw up after telling him I love him. That's beautiful. Yeah, but it's been three years, so we're fine. Did he remember the next day though?

He did. He did. That's sweet. And yeah, I guess he claimed that he had said it before then, which I'm like, no, I wouldn't remember. I would have written it down. He doesn't listen to this podcast, so I can talk about this. But I feel like I don't know. I can't gauge whether I should be the one to say it or he should be the one to say it. It doesn't listen to this podcast, so I can talk about this. But I feel like I don't know. I can't gauge whether I should be the one to say it or he should be the one to say it.

It doesn't matter. Yeah. It's not even about that. It is that way. But it's like, I don't know. We've also been dating for June, July, August, September, October. Five months? Okay.

I said it after two. I'm a psychopath. My first boyfriend, I said it. He said it first really quickly. In my heart, I'm a lesbian with relationships. So I go faster after two. I'm a psychopath. My first boyfriend, I said it. Yeah, he said it first really quickly. In my heart, I'm a lesbian with relationships. So I go faster than anything. And then you know what's weird? Every other element of our relationship, I feel, has moved fast.

But we also were friends for like five months before that. Because I knew you were like, I saw Jared Kim Petra's concert. Where else am I going to see it? How do you guys know each other? So we know each other because my brother um worked at this company with his close friend from college oh jesus in la and so then a few nights i would kept meeting him when i was in the closet even and it was so fun because i would just like talk to him and obviously like he knew but he was just never like he's very perceptive he's very perceptive but not someone who's like

giving you shit or like trying to like poke at you for it he would just like show up to like parties and always be so sweet and then once i came out um i saw him like a like a year ago at um the friend we shares uh i think it was her mom's birthday party or something and i had just come out and we just like had this nice conversation yeah it's like always a fondness and anytime i see him i'm like he's very easy to talk to yeah also insanely talented writer very very gifted um but yeah that's how we know each other and the friend we share is like an angel

have you met Liz Kahn yet no but it was just her birthday it was just her birthday yeah and just yeah he said he was at her

he actually was at her birthday last night and he said he did mushrooms oh and I was like okay have fun yeah haven't heard from him since oh

oh god I am truly I'm so scared of mushrooms in every way don't be have you done that before um i think i did like kind of them yeah yeah um but i've like i've had i acid i you know i had an acid moment in college and that was fun but some of them now i'm like i don't know i got it he literally he just texted me now that's that's the cosmic okay he's he's alive okay he's good okay i was kind of gonna just check just like find that out um yeah i don't know there's i'm just like a little scared of them in this totally in this time in this time it's got me scared from new york drugs

honestly it's like it's i get it it's hard out there do not do do not do anything until you're ready to do that that one too it's like i know yeah you can wait i think i've done like partially them in college and i was also like you know in a weird place in college so i don't know my like thing my thought of them is weird so i'm like i think that you should wait especially college would have been weird because you were so preoccupied with the closet of it all yes oh my god that's the thing is you can't be you can't be preoccupied no you do it because i feel like every time i did drugs it would just be like you someone would be like what are you thinking about right now i would just be sitting there like i'm gay like you know i'm like oh just thinking about stuff you know but i would just be like i'm so fucking gay like

fuck okay yeah i'm like i gotta figure that out and i did now i love it you did and i did it i did yeah but oh my god and boyfriend of three years he's a good man yeah i got lucky on that one yeah he's also a scorpio which you know two which some people go really hard on that but it's fun some people are just like it's doomed yeah and you're like no okay like these were still i you know i i believe and i don't yeah i think there is so much power in being the scorpio because i believe that scorpio is the sign that everyone comes for i feel like like, you know who gets the worst rap? Scorpio and Gemini. And everyone's always like, it's so easy to come for the Scorpios and the Geminis, but

when you learn how to harness the Scorp and the Gem, you're the most powerful person in the universe. Oh my god. The ones that you just have to stay away from, I have to say. The most powerful person in the universe. It's Leos. I feel like Leos now are getting the most shit, and'm some i'm sometimes very

scared of leo yes yeah leo's freak me out leo's that aren't tamed oh oh an untamed leo lion oh i don't think so yeah um that was honey yeah that was the most interesting video to make i was like this seems like the trickiest sign to me sensitive yeah virgos and and leo's are tricky to me. Sensitive. Yeah. Virgos and Leos are tricky to me. Beyonce. To see more of this and more of our damn guest, you have to follow at ManyDrama7. And he's going to be our boss one day. And he's going to be our fucking boss one day. But for now

we have to do I Don't Think So Honey. Okay, yeah. So this is the segment of Las Culturistas where we take one minute to rant against something in pop culture that is just kind of grinding our gears. I did hint at mine before okay do you have one today bowen yang uh i do but um should i go first tradition we can have you go first this is matt rogers i don't think so honey it's time starts now i don't think so honey they gave adina menzel another high e flat to belt in the new song into the unknown in frozen two Adina, girl, we love you.

We're a huge fan. We even saw Skin Tight, which we love. We love Skin Tight. Honey, you know what is the thing about Let It Go? We can't hit that note. You know what's sad about the narrative of Let It Go? That it's rarely sung correctly. I don't think so, honey, this idea that it's a well-tried moment every time we perform Let It Go and other songs.

If you are a singer hired to do a job and you're a professional, you hit the notes of the song. Now, I'm reading an article, and I don't think so, honey, this article where she says she, quote, gets cocky and put another note in there. And Kristen Anderson Lopez is quoted as saying, I don't know how we ended up here, but here we are. Wow. Literally, that's the quote. And I'm sorry, but when I'm watching Elsa realize she's a lesbian because that is what that sequence is about i don't want to be worried for your life i don't think so honey adina menzel girl you're a base what literally knocked out of me at the wind you're gonna get sued for that yeah sue me disney

disney's coming you know what lower the key you're calling elphaba a bass wait is there a new song yeah frozen terror and frozen terror is coming out here's the thing i and i want to make this clear i love adina menzel i think she's a star i think it is no mistake that she's been involved in many cultural phenomenons but it is distracting to watch her perform when the songs are too high because you're not thinking about the performance you're not thinking about what she's talking about especially in musical theater

you have to be on the journey with the character you're just worried the whole time that she's gonna make it to the end without I'm sorry but killing herself I didn't realize that Christina Lopez was like I don't know how we got here Lopez was like... I'm gonna read the quote. I have it up. Hold on. I literally just had it up.

It's important that... So they went in thinking, like, we're not gonna make the same mistake we did last time and, like, throw in this insane, unattainable note. Well, this is it. It says... Let's see. In Frozen 2, she goes for the high E-flat flat again it's one that she typically hits as

this article but has publicly missed before like when she sang live at a new year's eve performance in 2014 the damn oscar afterwards she posted on twitter that you quote can't get it right all the time but you can try your best i don't think so honey that's not there are singers who could do this in their sleep but menzel this is article, didn't shy away from showing off her... Oh, it is the tea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in her range in Frozen 2. In the sequel, she sings the high notes some more.

Songwriters Kristen Anderson Lopez and Robert Lopez included another E-flat and Elsa's sequel ballad into the unknown. They did, and I'll pay for that for the rest of my life and every other day that I can't sing it, joked Menzel on the frozen to red carpet the songwriters told USA Today they knew the Tony Award winning actors

could do it quote we work very closely with Adina and make sure everything's cool with her and we explore different keys whatever feels best and this is where we ended up somehow and quote into the unknown she said the she said the

movie's good i don't know the reviews are good okay they said it's darker more challenging and that there again is not a traditional villain the villain is the feelings of the interior feelings apparently it it explores themes of they have to go meet like another group of people and they have to in in meeting them they confront things about their own past. And Evan Rachel Wood plays their mother who has passed away. But I think, I think there's like a dark truth about their family that they confront. I love that.

And apparently it's like, apparently it's like, I kind of always want like a little witch somewhere, but yeah, no, I love this just a little bit. And this is Adina Menzel's last quote that I'll say is quote, I get cocky

in the studio i start to feel good i go i can hit that and then i wake up another morning and i'm like why did i do that to myself adina girl just lower the key i'm proud of her though for like saying i didn't know it was such like a thing yeah but here's the thing i'm still on kesha not getting the praying note that's like that's my one note she's not trying to hit it every time adina screams these notes I'm just like girl that doesn't sound good and we're distracted and it I'm sorry but it shouldn't be a narrative of let it go

that it is rarely sung correctly yeah yeah like no one's mad at you if you lower the key you sound lovely you're an amazing singer you're Idina Menzel you're talented and we love you when we stand but like this high E flat is not it. But I also understand the expectation around this.

What's the single going to be from frozen too? Is it good by the way? We have not heard it. Oh, they won't release at this time. It's like, not yet. It's still just wait.

Yeah. Um, but it feels like they have to match it at least on some technical level with notes. That's like a nightmare. Then you know what? How about this gag? How about give it to Kristen Bell this time? How about this gag?

How about give Jonathan Groff a song? Which I heard he does have a song. It's an 80s rock ballad. Oh, that's fun. I'm very excited. We love Jonathan Groff. Yeah. Oh my God.

Obsessed. He stole that first movie for me. I thought it was fantastic. I'm very excited we love okay Olaf yeah oh my god obsessed he he stole that first movie for me I thought it was fantastic you loved

Kristoff yeah or you mean talking about Josh Gad I'm talking about Josh Gad okay yes yeah I'm talking

about Josh Gad this is okay well actually that's a loaded cast yeah that's a set Olaf Olaf won for me

and we're adding Evan Rachel Wood to the mix and Sterling K. Brown is also in it wow oh god okay well Evan Rachel Wood I the mix. And Sterling K. Brown is also in it. Wow. Oh, God. Okay.

Well, Evan Rachel Wood, I mean, you have a queer movie right there. You absolutely do. Okay. So that was my I Don't Think So Honey. And now we're going to move on to Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. And Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey on this episode will start now. I Don't Think So Honey music that doesn't come out on a Friday. Bitch, the industry made a huge, big deal out of moving it from Tuesday to Friday years ago.

Remember that? And now we've all been conditioned to expect new songs to drop on Friday. I want, I get disoriented when fucking, you know, Dua Lipa puts out a song on a Thursday morning, honey. And then I don't know where I am, what day it is, what time it is, how I'm supposed to feel. It's really fucking up with all the seasonal change that's happening in the what day it is, what time it is, how I'm supposed to feel. It's really fucking up with all the seasonal change that's happening in the midst of it all, especially now. And I feel like there's a trend and it's just really gonna fragment

the whole release model of the industry and who suffers? The consumer. Us. Bitch. I don't think so, honey. Me having to like go to my release radar playlist on Spotify and seeing songs that are at least six days old because why it came out on a Saturday

instead of a Friday no this throws off everything nothing feels fresh anymore nothing feels new I want to be surprised and delighted and music industry you better get it together or else I will sue that's one minute that's it

it's rule of culture number 10 remember that remember that i love bow and yang saying music comes out you made a big i'd whole thing of making music come out on friday remember that oh that new duo though and that performance she's not a dancer but that was fantastic but she did our movement she did she always she knew she knows her limitations and works all of it she works her entire capability to the max she's always got great staging great backup dancers great concepts yeah yes i love the aesthetics are fantastic so fun i miss that old boyfriend though i love oh right together he's like british and he's like a kind of like britishy john may Mayer-y, oh God, chef.

Right. She's dating some celebrity now, right? She's with the Anwar, Hadid. Oh, that's right. Yes. Yeah, he's young.

How young is she? She's like 21. She's gotta be young. You know what I forgot? I forgot that she had won Best New Artist. At the Grammys? Yes.

Did she really? Wow. Yes, she won Best New Artist. She beat out her, Bebe Rexha. Right. She won. And I remember I was like, huh, that New Artist. She beat out her, Bebe Rexha. Right. She won. And I remember I was like, huh, that's interesting.

I never thought of Dua as, and then I really thought about it. And I was like, yeah, well, New Artist this year, not too much else. No. It's going to be interesting this year. Yeah. Because you got Billie and Lizzo. Oh, can Billie be nominated now? Yes.

Why did I think she was nominated last year? I mean, I am sure Billie Eilish will win Best New Artist. Because she was, oh, she was for VMAs. She won that, right? Right. She won for, I am sure Billie Eilish will win Best of All. She won that, right? She beat Lizzo for VMAs. I love Billie's acceptance video that she sent in. Oh my god. Do you remember what it was?

She was like, hey guys. Problematic at best. And then she's like, I'm in Moscow right now. And I'm so sorry I can't be there but and then here's what she says music videos and visuals have always been a huge priority for me totally or something like that top of my list when we were 16 we were like panicking white knuckling being closeted and she's like i want my concepts to be very special I just love thinking of her like at a table being like for this one I'm gonna like cry

like black tears down my face I think I should poop in the next video I would love it super sweet super sweet girl oh yeah you met her I'm sure she is who's been the sweetest nicest celebrity you've met so far

wait hold on I know that you know Megan Thee uh yeah Megan oh wow okay

the most gorgeous person you've ever seen I also just loved watching you you get the camera was catching you

standing her oh yeah and Chloe she's just staring at her she's like it was me and Chloe but we were both like we love you so much and her oh yeah and Chloe she's just staring at her she's like it was me and Chloe but we were both like we love you so much

and it was and Chloe Chloe was Chloe loved that week with Chance because Chloe loves fucking loves Chance oh she loves Chance

and then Chloe's parents met Chance so sweet amazing very cute he got so much like internet hate for his album

because I love that Nikki one oh so that's my fifth horseman of the apocalypse I love I mean we love Nicki in this house we never forget

you can't Pink Friday even Chun-Li I listened to she's about to ruin everyone with Chun-Li and then the album there's a good

eight song album in Queen in Queen absolutely like Barbie Dreams Barbie Dreams Barbie Tings

Coco Chanel Coco Chanel and then what was that song oh god The Cookie One Good Form Good Form yeah yeah yeah

Eat the Cookie and Good Form I think Megatron I love oh yeah Megatron is so good that should have I'm sad that wasn't out that should have been

yeah I have to say I also love The Pingprint and I really love fully I love Roman Reloaded I mean I think it's great

I love her pop music Young Forever Young Forever Va Va Voom Va Va Voom I loved all of that I mean Pound the Alarm is forever

Pound the Alarm like oh my god that whole forever Marilyn Monroe sometimes I feel like Marilyn Monroe

like oh my god she has a great voice I thought all of her pop was great that album has Bees in the Trap great that album has bees in the trap that album had oh and uh come on a cone come on whip it whip it that's what i think immediately when that came out and i did that, it was like, Oh, I am an absolute homosexual.

I was watching her like eat your Hollywood story. I remember like in high school and my whole family knew I was obsessed. Like I was a Ken doll for sure. Yeah. And they have this E thing and this person's being interviewed and they're like, I mean, yeah, all the people that like Nikki are like women.

And then those are the Barbies. And then there's the gay guys, which is like Ken dolls. And my family's all just sitting there and i'm like yeah i don't know like straight guys like her too that's oh my god oh my god yeah but truly a kendall forever i hope this retirement thing is just like i'm sure it's fake yeah there's no way she just like no she works she's a brand she's stunting on. She retired and then dropped a Fendi line. She's not retired. No,

I love that she's married. She's having fun though. Her little photo shoots. Yeah. Miss Petty. Miss Petty. Absolutely. Yeah.

You know, she was in her dressing room and she screams at an assistant, change it to Miss Petty. Oh, fully. Change it. An idea.

He bossed up. He bossed up. Oh, fully. Change it. An idea. He bossed up. He bossed up. So good. There's a great tweet. I wish I knew who wrote it, but they're like, I'm so sad we're never going to get to know how many of us are Nikki's step-sons in her next album or something like that. Someone kept being like, yeah, how many step-sons does Nikki have in Queen? She says it a few times but i

love every time she's like you're my son you're my motherfucking step son you ain't my son oh yeah you know what no no she's a brand name did it on him is so good oh my god i loved it that whole album start to finish oh yeah she's natasha beddingfield oh yeah super bass is our is our is our national anthem it is it really is oh it's actually real culture number six Super Bass is our national anthem. It is. It really is. It's actually Rulo Culture number six. Super Bass is our national anthem. I said that one with you. I was like, that's good. Please, solidify.

It is. But now we have to have Benito's. I don't think so. I think I have one. I'm just, okay, yeah. Okay. Oh, just go for it. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. I don't know if I can. You guys do it so fast and like. Oh, no. Okay. All right. This is Benito Skinners. I don't think So Honey's time starts now.

I don't think So Honey casting a CGI James james dean in that movie that makes me super uncomfortable also every time we see cgi people it was like the last time i remember it was tron and they tried to do that and then it was like jfk and transformers it always makes me uncomfortable it always looks weird they can never quite get faces avatar works because you know like they're blue but and everything else like i remember they did it to Jeff Bridges and tried to make him look young. And it made me uncomfortable. I remember IT Chapter 2, they had some of the kids, like, look younger. And a few times I caught it on screen and I was like, I didn't need it. Would have still believed they were young.

30 seconds. Yeah, CGI people. And also, it's like, he didn't sign up for that. Like, he died at 24. This is uncomfortable. I don't need to see him act anymore. Like, we have his movies already um and i feel like his family if like i think he still has family it has to be

uncomfortable with like seeing him and also how are you gonna do that like is it gonna be his type of acting which is very different than we act now in movies the whole thing is just like i think it's super disrespectful to him yeah his legacy. It makes me uncomfortable CGI people. And that's one minute. And I would agree 100%. Let dead people be dead. Exactly. I love that. It's actually roll of culture number 50.

Let dead people be dead. No holograms. It just makes me so uncomfortable. Because a part of me also, I just want to see what it looks like. So then it's like, I feel bad as a consumer of it. Because I'm like, well, I am curious how you're going to do that. It's also like, that was their art.

That was their legacy. And so now, you know what else kind of bothers me is the huge hit that Higher Love is with Whitney Houston on it. It's like,

guys, Whitney's dead. She just let her rest. And also, here's a question for the table. How do you guys feel about Robin, Whitney's Robin, coming out and talking about the fact i would say i'll say my take on it is my take on it is i kind of have a mentality now with the

closet where it's like we need to stop this we need to stop normalizing being in the closet to advance professional careers we need to start coming out and all saying what the real truth is. I think everyone that's in the closet is, currently, I understand it's hard. We all know it's hard. But if we continue this narrative of normalizing being closeted to kind of do this, that's toxic because it is not normal to pretend.

It is normal to be yourself. But I don't think that's, I'm not, that's not my takeaway from this conversation. Well, normal to be yourself. But I don't think that's, I'm not, that's not my takeaway from this conversation. Well, that's mine neither. I actually think Robin was an equal partner

in that relationship. A lot of people are talking about it and this is her truth and she should speak her truth. Did you read, did you read like the story that she tells about

when Whitney ended things? Talk about it. Did you, did you read about it? No, I haven't read this and I'm already like, I mean,

I saw the movie and I'm still like, like that and Amy yeah very hard god so many men killed those women yeah it's all men it's just all men yeah

but it was early like they had a physical relationship early on in their friendship and early on in Whitney's career

and Whitney decided to end it very early on as well but they maintained a very like emotional relationship. She was like her rock for years. They were soulmates.

Yeah. But Whitney decided to end it and gave Robin a blue Bible as like a gift. And I guess a symbol of like, we got to end this. And then she was like, and then what did Whitney say? She was like, we can't I can't we can't keep this going it was basically kind of like she was between the career and her and she kind of chose that and also I think there was so much familial pressure and also I'm sure that there was a great deal of you know not if it wasn't self-hatred then it was self-doubt you know I mean and so

you know also just in in the black community it's incredibly difficult and i mean i think it's incredibly hard to be like a very feminine presenting pop star and then and she's religious as well yeah very religious and you know sissy is on the record as saying that that would have been a huge uh red line for her yeah and you know she didn't have a really good relationship with her father and you know you know, you forget, like Whitney Houston was groundbreaking in her mainstream success. And then when she became a movie star, like, you know what I mean?

Opposite, like who at the time was like our head. The biggest movie star. Our new Robert Redford. Yeah, right. That truly is, yeah. I mean, I think that we don't know, but the bodyguard was huge. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Gigantic. I think because we know it, it must be so big, you know, it's like, because we know of the song and just like, you know, it has to be so insane.

Yeah. But that is my take on it. I'm like, you know what? I, I'm happy that Robin is taking the narrative. Yeah. I agree.

Like, cause, cause you know what? It's gotta be very hard to be a footnote in someone else's story. Yeah. Especially someone that you really cared about who's no longer here and cannot speak for you or for the situation or for themselves.

So she is the only person who can speak truth to that. And to watch all these documentaries in pieces and to finally say- That speculate. Yeah, even in Whitney, I don't think they got, she wasn't interviewed for it, right?

I don't think she's in it. Robin was not in it. Yeah, but they talk about it. It's like the first time I had ever heard about that which is i was like i found that really alarming that i had never before then heard about whitney having like any relationships with women right so yeah i'm kind of glad that she's finally spoken on it i feel like you know to like end the speculation which i never like speculations like i just find that to be like super you know like either closet shaming or

kind of just like sketchy and inherently just because it's like we think this was going on it's like well can't we just like talk to the human being i honestly i think about this so inappropriate we've talked about it on this podcast about sean mendez where it's like it's like it's like now it's uncomfortable because it's like it's such a narrative it's gross and i'm just kind of like like let things be what it is. There's a part of me that's like, if that is happening, then I feel like it's sad

because I just don't want kids who are watching it to hear the narrative around it and be like, oh, that has to be me. It's poisonous. The whole thing is poisonous. The shame of it.

And also I'm like, if he is, the inner trauma he is currently facing of it. And also I'm like, if he is like the inner trauma, he is currently facing of like being closeted in public. Yes. Not in any way. Like, I was like, I don't know.

And we genuinely don't know. And I would just say, I would say the only thing that he is out about is the fact that he has insane anxiety. Yeah. So it's like, why are, why,

why are we like angry at this person? Why are we like pressing that even more? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I never we angry at this person? Why are we pressing that even more? Yeah, it's like, I never find that to be. And also, yeah, you're scaring everyone who is in the closet. And people who grow up not in cities and don't see gay people all the time. It's like, oh, fuck. Okay, he's getting shamed for being in the closet. But I don't know if you're necessarily

proving to him that it's great when you're out yeah right exactly attack yeah because the second he comes out it's like not everyone's gonna be like we love you don't accept you there'll be a lot of people that are like this but there's gonna be some people that are like why did you do it you know what i mean it's a wide base i mean like he's a huge very big pop he is the biggest male pop star right now. Absolutely. Yeah, he's the new Bieber. So it's like if Bieber had come out,

I'm, yeah, I'm curious. I don't know. Yeah, who knows. But I feel bad for Bieber. I feel like you have to come back. You have to. We barely scratched the surface. This isn't on her.

It really is. Oh, come on. To talk about an art pop with the two of you, this is a dream. This is a dream. Culture. We barely scratched the damn surface. We didn't even get into the Jeff Koons cover,

which there's so much to be said I mean but so are you gonna be doing your show a lot going forward a little bit I'm almost

it's been a year so I'm kind of like almost done I think I'm kind of getting back into making some sketches I need you to in sketches immediately

immediately well I don't know if Bo and Yang are you allowed are you allowed I think Bo and Yang might be excused by doing a sketch

somewhere else he's on a damn loophole he's on contract okay yeah we'll find somewhere but yeah I'm doing like a few shows in the next month

I have a few in Texas and then well I'm gonna chill can they find your shows on your Instagram do you plug them yeah yeah in my link in bio

link in bio thank you so much this is so fun an icon an icon stop both of you are thank you for all you was so fun an icon stop both of you are thank you for all you do

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