Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Professional Performing Arts Episode" (w/ Monét X Change)

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Matt + Bowen finally welcome drag superstar Monét X Change to the podcast! And there's *lore*! The host of Sibling Rivalry and Monét Talks delights the boys with the tale of her perfect recent engagement, details how she found her (very low) voice in chorus and shares her ambition to be in Death Becomes Her on Broadway (which must happen, btw). Also, That's So Raven and Raven Symoné giving TV's best comedic performance at the time, Final Fantasy X, discovering drag and rising quickly in the NYC scene and "podiatric feminization". All this, Kelly Rowland appreciation, reaction to the REACTION of The Traitors season 4, a preview of Survivor 50, and the time Monét met SZA on a plane. The tour is High Heels, Bad Knees and this Drag Race and reality TV legend is hitting a city near you SOON so go SOAK HER UP! Throwback!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Boen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.

We're already sort of in process on this episode. We just got right into it. I think it's because it's, well, by the time this comes out, it will be Picey season. The beginning day one. Because sort of who was ringing through the hallways as we were preparing was Siza. And we were sort of connecting about really just how good Siza is. And I said most memorable concert of my life, March 5th, 2020. Pice's season, my birthday.

She fell off that diving board. Why did we laugh? Why is their laughter? The concept of like falling off a diving board is saying it's terrible. So you think it's funny to think of someone falling off a diving board, which is actually really high up in the sky. That's why. That's what people do. unbelievable. She fell.

She was sitting like Princess Diana and then slipped off in peril. Tragic ends all. Tragic ends all. I love that we're back in like a classics space. I think our guest has always been in that space.

Studied the classics. Study the classics. Vocals, that is. PPS. This is a moment. What is PPAAS? Professional performing arts school. Oh.

Which I want to really dig deep into like, what was the feeling knowing that the other school was right up the street? The other school. You know what I mean? The episode's title Front Runner is Professional Performing Arts Episode. Yes. Okay.

Because we're about to be schooled in anyways. Absolutely. Our guest is a legend. Winner of Rapal's Drag Race All-Stars. Trader Season 4. Participant, but the thing is really, I, wasn't anyone's fault. It was just that luck thing that happens in traders.

I really wanted a world where our guest was at the end. And I felt it there for a second. In the edit, I was like, I even said to people definitively, they're baking into the edit. Monet wins. Well, because, because, because, because our, because our guest was booked for this show. Yes. Before the season started and we were like, Monet's coming.

That means she does very well. That means she does well. We were like baked in to that reality. Come to find out. She was a participant. But I would have loved this A reality in which At Bob's encouragement

She got rid of Dorinda first I would have loved That would have been amazing And that would have seemed Just all this like This Ron Funch's Durinda It's the will they won't they of the year Well yeah yeah

Ron Funchers and Durinda But also the host of I guess maybe the best podcast ever Sibling Rivalry and Monet Talks And on this gorgeous I can't tell if that white couch is gorgeous or disgusting Let's get into it.

The ladder. High heels, bad knees is the tour. February 20th, May 23rd. It's her birthday coming up. Everyone welcome. On next day. Oh, my God. Hi.

Y'all, that was such a lovely introduction. It's a lovely time to be alive, do you? Yeah, I do. No, of course. I get a great intro. I do. I love a good intro. Yeah.

And I work really harder than because I think it's a great way to set the tone of the interview. I have that interviews where I could tell they had no idea who the fuck I was. And it was like, well, here we go. Well, here we go. Because they call you Monnet or something. Yeah, Monette.

And they were like, she was on, um... So you think... Monnet. So you think you can drag. I'm like, oh, God. Here we go. Yes, Chuck. Hi, Chuck.

How are you doing? Nice to meet you. This is actually a moment in history as well because there's lore. There's lore. There's literally lore. Oh, there is lore. Because your to be husband

is Andy Short, who we go so back with. Yeah, y'all, you, but see, but y'all know him in like a really over, like, I can't even imagine that person that he was, like, back then, like, he was, he did a lot of drugs, did a lot of drinking, like, was a mess, and he's just so different now. Drugs drinking. Straight as an era.

Straight. And that, he was, the biggest far he was straight. He was so straight. He would walk around with an iguana on him. That's crazy. Like, do you remember when he would just... That's heterosexual. He'll have to, like, say what type of lizard is truly was... It was a dragon. It was a dragon. I'm the type of gay

where I don't know the difference between the lizards you know what I mean like see this was to illustrate how straight he was Oh my god your cat looks so weird You should like wedding or something I don't know

Your cat needs to be watered You need to water your cat Literally I like this weird I mean now he has a dog potato Which the jury's out on it A dog named potato Oh I thought you said a doll potato He's got a dog potato

He looks different He waters that as well Waters that as well I feel comfortable sharing this about Andy You know, because he feels comfortable sharing it's his claim to fame. No, his claim to fame is that you two are madly in love. But I was his first gay kiss. His first gay kiss was Bowen, yeah.

Because I visited him. So he transferred to Emerson. Yes. He was NYU. Because he was kicked out of NYU. I don't know the details. We actually know. He was in our sketch comedy group and then one day he just left and we were like, what happened?

And we just figured he needed a change. Yeah, no. He was really up on the liquor. You were like, I need to change in my life, God, sober. And then, but apparently because he was so bad that third semester, and why you asked him to leave. Wow. They're like, you have to go.

Whoa. Yeah, they're like, no privilege here. You're gone. No. You are out. Out of here. Yeah. So then he goes to Emerson.

He transfers to Emerson is like a darling there because he's the funniest person. And then after we graduate, 2012, I, the summer after we graduate undergrad, I go up to Boston. I was like, I'm going to visit Andy. How's he doing? He's sober now. He's great. Like, I'm, you know, I love Barney, his late mother. And so I go up to Boston.

I stay with him. We have, like, I would say, a weekend that was like a European short film. It was, like, so romantic. And then we went to Walden Pond. Okay. And then snuck around, like, a part of the pond where, like, no one's allowed. Everything I love this. We, like, dove in.

in and like swam a bit and like in a pond and like in a god this a short head and you're a talented creative person yeah yeah yeah there was like a tense moment where we were just like waiting in the water just kind of like looking at each other like what is this and then we go home we go back to his place and then like i think and then at some point we just we started he kissed you gingerly he kissed me jingling and he dropped me off the train station was like well like this this would never happen like this would never wow i am so i'm so glad our paths to diverged because you two found love. And then he got to get to a woman.

You got to get you a woman. Oh my God. Yeah, he can get you a woman. Wait, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, eight years ago. And within this like crazy, in this like crazy engagement, he like flew her family and his family in, like this like crazy. The Bachelor. Scavenger Hunt in Central Parks. I was like, oh, if you're going to propose me, baby, you got to up that ante.

Really? Absolutely. I'm like, shit I'm going to get the fear shrew. I guess just unbended knee at a at like a medieval time down at the ranch A staggered hunt seems so hetero though It is very hetero So then what did he do for you?

So on our very first date We went out for ice cream for our first date Because people who do dinner for a first date Are you crazy? Are you so bloated? That is a You're paying like 60, 80 bucks

To talk to someone It goes on way too long Like an hour and a half What if it's a bad date? Now you just locked in for an hour and a half With this person that's like awful And you have to get dessert. And you have to get dessert.

So we had ice cream at Van L.A. And then after that, we were going to go to Griffith Observatory to, like, just check it out. But it was a Saturday. It was really busy. So he dropped me back off in my car. We showed a little kiss. And then later on the night, he was like, I'm going to go to Hot Dog Sunday. So you want to meet there?

Meadow Hot Dog Sunday. So for our four-year anniversary, he was like, I want to take you to Van Lue and ice cream again. I was like, okay, sure. Going to Vanilla and Ice Cream walk in, they're playing my song Love Like This Like The Thing, and they named like a flavor after me. I was like, oh my God, this is so sweet, so cute. Poor year anniversary.

Yeah, that's very cute. And then after that, he's like, maybe let's go to Hot Talk Sunday. Now, Hot Talk Sunday, if y'all don't know, starts at 5 p.m. At this point, it's 2 p.m. I was like, well, why would we go there? Like, the bar's going to be closed. Like, he's like, that's, I don't want to go there. He's like, well, let's just try.

I was like, Andy, that's stupid. Yeah. I was like, who wants to go to a closed bar? That's something. I'm not going there. He's like, I think we should try. I'm like, that is literally the dumbest idea anyone has ever said. I'm like, no.

Actually, take me home. Now I'm mad. Take me home. He's like, he can't go. I was like, oh, fine, I'll do your stupid idea. Go to Hot Dog Sunday. Get there. Selina S.C.D. is playing The Door Girl.

And then she ushers me in. He's on stage and there's like a beautiful sunflower installation of like because he bought me sunflowers on our first date. And he's on stage. He comes out in this black outfit and he sings this acoustic version of my song, Love Like This. And as y'all know, does not sing. He'd been taking voice lessons

for a year to learn how to sing for the proposal. And he's so romantic. He's very romantic. Oh, no, we didn't dive in a pond, but that would have been the ice on the cake, we had a little dip in the pond. You guys have the rest of your lives to do that.

I feel like how could it be more romantic than any of that? It was very sweet. There are good men. There are good men, but can I say something? I feel like such an asshole. Why? Safe Propose gives me the ring. Oh, God, it sounds so cunty.

No, say what? Gives me the ring, and then I look at the ring. I'm like, oh, this is beautiful. And then later that night, I was like, he was like, so how do you feel about the ring? I was like, I like, I like it, but one little change. I want to just an eternity set, Bobby Diamond. 100%. Let me see it.

Yeah. Oh, it really is so fucking. After the no. And he had this, but there was like a big square cut diamond in the middle of it. Okay. It was his mother's engagement. Stop. So I was like, I love this.

I was like, let's take out the stone. I'll put it on something else. Yes. Because I had to wear this photos of my life, you know what I mean? So I'm putting it in like a... That is so fucking tasteful, elegant. Like, also was a little extra in the way that is you. Oh my God.

I'm so happy that you got like the proposal you deserve to us. That is like, I could not think of someone. I was actually saying he back in the day was known as being so effortlessly funny. Like, in our schedule, he was by far, really? People thought of him as one of the people that was, could naturally sell anything in terms of comedy.

Well, y'all whole, y'all's whole class. Like, I mean, like, it's birth like fucking legend. Something was crazy. Yeah. Like, it is, like, so many talented people from this class. And it is crazy. Yeah, I also shout out Steph Shoe, who is going to be in Rocky Horror.

Did you see this Rocky Horror? I do, and I'm absolutely, I cannot wait to see it. Oh my God, it's going to be really a gag. And I can't believe Steph is in it. She's perfect for that, like, show. I look so good. I'm so... You know, I've only gotten it

into theater as I left New York. Really? Yeah, Born and raised New Yorker, but living here, I never went to go see shows. I was like, is it because you couldn't afford it? Because that was it for me. Like, we did not go when we were here all the time,

and mind you, we could have taken advantage of, like, student discounts and stuff, but we just couldn't afford it. Like, that's why we never saw anything back in the day. No, it was just ignorant. PBAAS? You're not seen shout I'm like, no, I'm not gonna go.

Yeah, I don't know. Late in life, I think moving to L.A., I was like, I want to just experience more theater. But, you know, sometimes, you know, well, it's a really weak year right now. I know. That's why all of a sudden, it's like, well,

I'm sure things are going to be great eventually, but the thing is like the reason why there's like a lot of things happening. There's a lot of space in theaters. So things are now starting to get thrown up. Yeah. But do you know what Jennifer Hudson just announced is that she's producing Dreamgirls is going to come back to Broadway?

And you guys coming back. Yeah. Yeah. Which I've been, I've been thinking, why the fuck did they not bring that with Amber Riley? Okay, so I had Amber Ryle on the show. I was like, Amber, what happened? She was like, I'm not going to say it was because of me, but I could not come and do it on Broadway. Yeah.

This was like when, this was 2018, I think. Yeah. And like, I had a little money. It was on Dragress. I was like, you know, I'm going to take a week off and make sure I go see the show, but I never made time to go do it. And I was kicking one. When I,

because everyone was like, oh, it's coming to Broadway. Right. It was like, the Western production is coming to Broadway. Yeah.

So I was like, okay, I'll just wait until the comes to New York. Yep. And when it didn't, I was so mad that I did not get to see

the Western production of Dream Girls. But now we're going to get it here on Broadway. You've done Broadway. I've never done Broadway. You're such a fucking fit. You know,

I, because I, so, okay, to be the realty, I just started auditioning for stuff come like November. And because I was like,

I'm an opera girlie. In school, you were, we, they kind of taught us to stick our notes. Like, they was like, you're not going to do theater. Like, it was that, like, it was that whole thing. So for the longest time, I was like, I can't do music theater. Like, I need to, I'm holding myself out for opera, you know? Yes. But now I'm, as like, now I'm a fully formed adult.

I'm like, no, I fucking love music theater. Death Becomes her. I've seen the show like 19 times. It's so good. Yeah. Yeah, say, say. I think that I. Yes.

can do the viola van horn role. Imagine that in full dragoons. And it is the type of role where it sits musically. It sits perfectly in my understanding. It will still be just dramatic. There's no reason for this to not happen. We have to say out loud, this needs to happen. This viola is the smart.

Michelle Williams. Is the Michelle Williams. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No, 100%.

This would tear. It would be so dope. It would be a done deal. I think it would be dope. And you'd put about every single I'm counting butt in a seat. I would, I need that to have 100%. By the way, like she is so,

and I've been swatching so much Kelly Rowland content lately. I think today we're recording, it's her birthday. Oh, you better know it. Well, is it February for 13th her birthday? Because there's just been a lot of, I don't know, Tina wished her happy birthday today.

So when we're recording it is. Anything on Beyonce.com, it's a lot of Kelly. I was just checking Beyonce.com recently. And it's a lot of Kelly stuff. There's a Kelly roll in moment happening. And I just always appreciate when that happens. Yeah. She did an interview, I think, like, two days ago. And I just saw I pop up on TikTok or something.

And someone asked her, like, so there are all these rumors that on your tour that Beyonce was giving you notes and, like, give you things. And she was like, absolutely. She was like, she's my best friend. She was the greatest artist in the world. Of course. She was like, anytime my friends comes to my show, I'd welcome notes. and I would make my show better.

I was like, good on you. And I'm not being like, no, I don't need any help. She's like, no, like, Beyonce is my best. Of course. Yeah. I don't think I'm going to like milk that. Of course.

Give me the notes, girl. She goes iron sharpens iron. Yes. I was like, work. Yes. Wow. Because it is true. It's very true.

Just to speak to that, like you surround yourself with, I think, like, the highest caliber of people as well. Like you, every single week, talk to multiple times, the funniest, smartest person about the drag queen. because that's who you are. And I really do think, like, I was there when we were all nominated, you guys won the Glad Award. And I was like, yeah, 100% they should be winning every award for two people talking to each other.

Like, that's just how I feel. We're never going to win those awards because we don't do Patreon. Like, we can't talk to that. Also, let me very care. Y'all have blown us out of the freaking war, okay? Y'all awards. We want a couple. Are you kidding me?

But I'm just saying that it's all done. We're done. We're done. Leave us alone. You do sibling rivalry, Patreon sibling rivalry. Patreon, yeah. And then you do watchery.

Yeah. Which is, I guess it's like part of, it's folded in. But then, but then the Monet Talks thing is. Yeah, the couch is disgusting,

you think? Oh, that couch, so that couch is, it is like a $100 couch from the Facebook marketplace. Yes. Yeah.

But it works with the set. Oh, it does. Because it's supposed to be like this 80s basemany vibe, like just chill. So, yeah, I love that couch.

Um, well, I just, I have to ask, just because you briefly mention it with Joel. Final Fantasy 10, talk about it. Oh my God.

Okay, so in my humble opinion, Final Fantasy 10 is one of the best games of the decade. Best stories ever told. It's just, like, the gameplay is just so good. This beautiful love story with Titus and Union. And then you have this witch, Luna, with these little, like, voodoo dolls. It is just, I just, I play the game through about three or four times. And I go through it.

I make sure I get all the aons. I'm, like, doing all the bono. this content. I just love that game so much. And it's so beautifully shot. It's so beautifully shot. Or drawn, whatever. Whatever. But like this. Yes. Oh my God. What's Shiva? What's this? This is this turned a whole generation of

boys' guys. This is, if you saw, do you know do you know Shiva? Fuck, do you know Shiva? Of course. Of course our camera guys knows one of them knows Shiva. This is a different group by the way than the people who knew the film seven. Like a lot. There's a

different mixture of people. Last week we had a whole bunch of guys that we mentioned the David Fincher Film 7 and they all started to activate. I was like, so this is a little bit of a different community in here, but similar. We're bringing people together. Shiva was just as the cuntiest ice got, before there was Elsa. Before they was Elsa, they was Shiva. They were Shiva. And then sometimes they do Shiva twins.

Sometimes they do an army of shivas. Yes. As in two shivas are more? There's a bunch of shivas. But Shiva is basically the ice goddess. And she, in Final Fantasy 10, her signature movie is always called, Diamond Dust. Uh-huh.

And it was so good. It's just, like, everybody, including you. Diamond Dust. Look up Diamond Dust, Final Fantasy 10. You, it is. That sounds like a Stevie Nick single. Diamond Dust. Diamond Dust.

We're the Dallas. Yeah. Oh, I'm, see, this is, thank you for bringing the video games into the space. Yeah. Into the sphere. So you're a big, you're a big gamer. I, absolutely 100%. Okay.

And we just came out of it. from Japan and my whole fucking thing there was just going to the Final Fantasy Cafe by myself. It was, God, it makes me so happy. It's like the best thing of all time. What are you playing now? I'm playing Marvel rivals. A lot of Marvel rivals. I love Marvel

rivals. I play Smash Bros. A ridiculous... Who's your main? Girl. Right now, Sephora. King DDD, Lucas, and Mega Man. These are like masks. Well, you know, I play like, I play like, I want to say weekly a

about 10, 12 hours a week. What time? You know, it's the way I decompress. Same with him, though. He's always playing video games when he's in home. After the day of like a bunch of stuff, I'm like, just give me like two hours a second. Just like. But where's Andy in this moment?

See, so, you know, that was a big thing in our relationship because, you know, I would say Andy's more of a co-dependent person. I'm independent. Like, I, let me tell you, after college, I did not have any fucking roommates. I worked my ass off so I can live by myself and not have any roommates ever because I was just. I lived with like three straight guys in college and it was awful. One of them was Scott, bless you, Scott. Scott was a man with hair on every inch of his body.

And that kind of stuff gets all over. Girl, in the back. And you know, straight guys, they don't clean. I was like, I did not want to live with anyone ever. Yeah. So, yeah, so when we got together, he was the first person I had lived with since college. And we also moved fast.

We moved in together at seven months. Supersonic lesbian. Girl. Yes. Super sonic. Lesbian. Oh my God. Victoria Monnet lyric is when you just travel

at the speed of light. Life as a lesbian one. Forcifully through time and space. So, and then so my perfect, in a perfect world for me. Yeah. How we're spending time, we're in the same house together,

occupying the same space. Different rooms. You're in your room. Yep. I'm in my room. Oh, I love that. I think that's great. Me too.

Andy wants to be right here next to me in the couch. I'm like, he's one of those dogs. He's one of those. So one thing is that there has to be separate bathrooms. Absolutely. Okay, I just want to check in. Separate bathroom, separate closets. So you really did get it all.

I did. I had the onsweet closet to the bathroom. That's the thing. That's all my thing. And he's downstairs. Thank you. Like, that is, that should be normal. Yeah.

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What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? This is the central question of lost culture and we put it to you now, Monique Exchange. For me, it is unequivocally, That's So Raven. Okay. That's So Raven. Like, the way that that show was literally a cultural reset was dope. Like, before, like, you know, because in that same era, we had Sweet Life of Zach and Cody, Lizzie McGuire. Things were happening.

All those things. She was the first black girl-led sitcom, and she was a little thicker. Yeah. And Raven was allowed to be funny, crazy. Her physical comedy was unmashed. She was giving the best comedic performance on me. Oh, good, right? It was.

It was. It was. It was. It was. And she was playing all these characters. She was a psychic, all this stuff. And, like, I just thought, like, seeing Raven Baxter on my screen, all the different characters, she was, like, very like, Martiness or Jimmy Foxx, like, playing all these different characters, any Murphy's type shit. And she was just, and also, not even that, Raven Simone, like, you look fast, you rewind, 15 years before that, she was doing it on the Cosby Show.

So Raven has always been on the, on the cutting edge of, like, really, this, like, sitcom TV show space. like ushering this new era and normalizing the experience of black folk living and being like stars. So that's what even was at for me. Dr. Doolittle 2? Dr. Doolittle 2? It's because they knew they had someone who could do anything. Yeah, she could do anything. Like when you talk about it being like akin to all of those things of the past,

it's because they were like, we have an opportunity in this talent to throw any kind of sketch situation, any kind of thing at this person. And you do not see that now. No. You don't see that. And it is a little bit like she was a kid, et cetera. Like, you know, we now look at, like, being a child actor differently in terms of how much they should work. But the thing is, like, that type of personality doesn't even really exist anymore. Because there aren't showcases for it anymore.

Right. Yeah. It's like, well, it's like, why can we have that? Like, why? Like, surely the talent isn't gone. There is some kid out there who has that same breadth of, like, talent. But where are there? It just gets lost in the sauce of, like, the social media stuff now.

Like, there really aren't. like, what's been the last, like, Disney Channel slash Nick show? Like, there just, there aren't those things, except, like, high school musical, the series, the movie, whatever. I guess, like, if you attach that to it, then, like, you could say Olivia Rodrigo, but then she wasn't, like, famous for being on that show.

She became a superstar as a result of that song. Yeah, the song, yeah. So, it is hard to say. Yeah, I don't think, does Disney, do they still do original shows like that? I can't name one. Or, like, have we aged out? We just don't know, but I still watch cartoons. I love Avatar the last Amanda.

Yeah, I mean, listen, I feel like if there was a personality that, like, existed like that, we would know it. I would also point out who was like that, Amanda Bynes. Amanda Bines as well. He's the man? She's the man. He's the man, she's the man. Gender is a construct. Yeah, whatever it was.

Her show, the Amanda Binds show, like iconic. Huge. Like Raven and Amanda, they were like, they were carrying the bills over there at Disney. My dad loved Raven. My dad was always like, this girl is the funniest person on television. I was like, she is. Yeah, so good.

Favorite that's the Raven episode. Oh, the one when she, they're in the store at the mall, and I think she gets a premonition or the future of someone stealing something or something like that. And she's like trying to stop Orlando Brown, which she's kind of love.

Wait, what's, what's she on Orlando? Girl. Girl, she's not well. She's not well. Okay. Yeah. And then like Chelsea, which, oh my gosh, she was also a great actress too. And Elisa Vanderpald.

She's great. Yeah, she was also really great timing and stuff. Like these kids, I'm like, well, y'all were really, y'all were in theater and stuff as kids. No. No? Not at all. He did theater and I was like sports, sports, sports, sports. I was more under the Andy Short.

Mass. He was in any short. No, I, there were the kids who did like community theater where you went. fuck. Yeah. They're living the dream. You are weaponized

in a way. They can't do it to me. But I always wanted to become like a little theater weapon. Yeah. But there was no runway for me. Yeah. I was wearing

sketchers. I was being made too fun. I was being made fun of all the time. Oh yeah. But how did you find opera? So I was this chubby little black boy in middle school. I went to Marine Park Junior High School,

the third worst middle school in New York State. In Brooklyn? In Brooklyn in Marine Park. Like so, bad, like, in middle school, six, seven, eighth grade, they would have, like, cop cars lined out of the school to get it to corallus onto the buses. But, like, seventh grade, I had been jumped, like, five times because I was just a, I, bitch, I've always kind of walked like Daffy Duck. I've always had a thick old booty walking around.

Mateo always makes fun of me for the show. And then, so, like, I would always make fun of me. But as all queer kids do, I found comfort and joy in chorus, honey. I was like, let me go to the chorus. I was one of the three boys in chorus, and I had a low voice. I started growing facial hair in like seventh grade. Oh. So I was like, Cabiz could sing the low notes in court.

She was all about the base. Yeah. Yeah. And then after that, my teacher was like, you know what? You should audition for one of those high schools in the city. I was like, oh, there's like audition high school. She's like, yeah, there's LaGuardia. There's PPAS.

There's the one in Queens of Frank Sinatra, all those ones. I was like, okay. So literally, they treated like a fucking American Idol audition. I was just going to say. You stand, you line up outside the school. You get a number. You get a number on a cold New York City. morning. And you're eating your bacon,

egg and cheese in line, trying to do your little scales to warm up. And you do like a sight singing. Your little scales. You do the sight sing? You have to sight sing. Oh, that was always terrifying. At the tender age of 13 or 14? Yes, girl. And you do that. And then my audition song was Flying Without Wings by

Rubenstetter. Oh, yes, it was. And that's the joy it brings. And that's the joy of brings. That is the joy of rings. He was so good. He was so good, right? Both of them were good. It was good.

It was good. Kimberly Locke was better. Kimberly Locke was the one. And Trinise was my girl. I love Trinney's. She was fifth place. Kimberly Locke sang Somewhere Over the Rainbow three different times in the same fucking season. She said, I know you remember this one.

Kimberly Locke always sat somewhere over the rainbow. Somewhere over the rainbow. And then Clay became, is he like a politician now? He tried. He tried. He tried. North Carolina. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, audition for LaGuardia and PPS. And Frank Sinatra. And I got into, I'm sorry, and talent unlimited, which I don't know talent unlimited is still over here. Talent limited. Talent limited? Okay.

I was going to say. Talent limited. Talent. Talent limited talent. And I got into PPAs talent, talent unlimited, and Frank Sinatra. But LaGuardia said, no thank you. So what was the feeling? Because you can talk about it now.

There's been enough distance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. What was the feeling of going to people. B.S. knowing that LaGuardia was just up the street. Okay, you know, so like literally, it's literally like, what, 15 blocks, literally up on the same avenue of the street. On the east side. On the west side. On the west side.

And, you know, I mean, at first you're like, I didn't get into the fame school. I didn't get into LaGuardia. Yeah. But, like, I really do feel like everything happens for a reason. Yes. And because I went to PPS, we had Ms. Wright, her name was Shantel Wright, and she was really big on, like, I know y'all kids, like y'all R&B and your hip hop. but y'all gonna learn some culture in this motherfucking way. So she would like, so she would introduce us to opera and anthems and spirituals and stuff like that. And we were part of this like touring choir, the songs of Solomon.

And we would tour on spring break and midwinter break. We would go on tours to Canada, around the States. And like she was really instrumental in introducing me to opera. So that's when from her, I was like, maybe I can do opera. And I went to Westminster Square College in Jersey for my degree in music ed. Yeah. And that's what I did. Yeah.

And then you stuck around. Browns? No, so I went to school there. When I came back, I moved to Brooklyn, but I went back home to Brooklyn for a year, then I got my own place. And I lived in Brooklyn for two years, and then I moved to the Bronx.

Then Bronx. And then were you doing parqueton shows? My home where the Bronx was so disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. What's just the commuters, bro? It was terrible. But when I, oh, so when I finished that, I taught at PS-130 at Hernandez-Dissota School

in the Lower East Side. Doing theater teaching? Yeah, music teaching. I was like the adjunct little music teacher there And I did that for a year and a half And I was like, this is awful So I did that and then I would Then I sang with Portland Opera for two years

And we were on a summer break And I was doing a young artist program here in the city And then I met Jasmine Rice Yeah, I just saw Jasmine last night Oh really? Oh, with the Hudson Williams At the Hudson Williams break Yeah, I saw that

Oh my God, how does Hudson Williams look in person? Gorge He's 25 I'm like he's a whole 10 years younger than I He's 25? I know. It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It sounds like a perfect day. It's true. And this is always on a summer break. And this is when season three of Dragers was airing. And Jasmine and I, we connected over this love for Drag Race.

Yeah. And we were like, should we try doing drag? So we went to the, this is when they had that big ass forever 21 on Times Square. And girl, we went on our lunch break and we were shopping like women, honey. Just two big men in the women section. We were like, y'all have this in the 42? Yes. And then we tried to.

I went on dresses in Forever 21, went to Mac, got like some Ruby Woo lipstick and like some foundation, and literally got in drag and went to the Ritz and saw Thorgy Thor and as we were going to do a show there. And from that night on, we were like, oh, we're bit by the bug, we're doing this. And then we started doing, we did pride that year. We walked the entire parade from 52nd Street down to the West Village in like six inch heels. Like it was crazy. That's a gorgeous memory though. It was, oh, I loved it. It was a time of our life.

Did you and Jasmine know each other from doing opera before? No, that Young Artist's program, summer of 2012, with the first time we ever met. We just happened to bounce into each other there. And she's such an amazing singer. She's an amazing. Both of you are, I think, are so... Love her voice.

Beautifully. But when I started doing drag, I was still working... Because I still... I was on summer break and I was working at the Holiday Inn Express at JFK. I had told my boss, I was like, I'm going to be late for pride, because I was doing pride. I was... I'm going to be a little late. And I'm like, in my Suzuki,

Grand Vitara, leaving Pride, driving down the BQE. And I was using duct tape to cinch my waist. So I'm in the car, like, removing my makeup, trying to take my, my pads and shit all while I'm driving. And I take the duct tape to rip it off, and I rip off a

chunk of my skin, the size of like a sack of juie. This is another short film. You guys both have a short film. And because I was like, I rip it. I'm like, oh my God. And I'm like, I have to go to work. And I get to work. I kind of half drag, have a suit. He was like, you're fired.

No. But fired that dick. I got fired. Yeah. Oh, he was such a homophobic. That guy, he did not like that. It came to that to the job in direct. Fired and bleeding.

Fired and bleeding in half drag. When, oh my God, this is incredible. When was Barakuda? Barakuda started. So I was like, work after that job. I got a job at the Yale Club of New York City, which is a very high brother of the club, which is a Yale, UV, and Dartmouth.

And I was doing that. It was my first, like, union job. I was making, like, $30 an hour. I was living with Lita Loka, baby. So I'm doing that. And then at that point, I was still like going out randomly New York

here and there, going out to a club, no gigs. And then I had picked up like one gig at the Phoenix bar in a lowly side. Oh my God. Girl Phoenix. Is she still here with us? I think she's still here.

I think she is. If she is, we haven't seen her in a while. Actually, maybe I did like a year and a half stumble into the Phoenix. I think I might have. Like, isn't this funny? Like, and then like So I was doing that

Became friends with Bob And Bob was like, Monnet, you need to quit your job At the Yale Club I was like, why? He's like, Monet, I think you really have talent To be really great in drag If you keep on doing half measures You'll never succeed at anything

Whoa, come on Bob I know, I was like, girl, I have a union job Like I have benefits, I have health insurance You dirty drag queens You hurt yourselves You can't pay for your health insurance I can pay for my shit You know?

I was like, what? And then like literally two weeks later I was like, I think he's right and I just quit my job. Whoa. And then I just wore full time in drag. And then one thing led to another, then I got one gig,

then two gigs and three gigs. And then by a year after I quit that job, I had like seven gigs over like five days in New York. It felt like you were the girl very fast. I remember this is like when we were really out a lot in like our mid to late 20s. And we would go to see Bob. Yeah. You would host parties.

Yeah, he would host parties. I would come to the watch parties. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. I was like, oh, our local girls. keep moving up. I would see Alexis Michelle.

Oh my God Lexi Michelle. We did a show with Alexis Michelle. Really? Yeah. What was the show? It was called drag court.

Drag court. Bowler was the judge and I was the sonographer. You were the song girl. I was the bailiff. Ruby Roo was the judge. Oh my God,

Ruby. And it was Alexis Michelle and who was she up against? I was like, up against like Bible Girl, I want to say. Bible Girl definitely did the show. Bible girl did the show. Bible girl did the show.

But my whole car was the snographer. I never spoke. Those were, God, We were really... See, that's what I love about those. Like, I just, I loved all of that shit. No one gave the fuck what we were doing? No one cared.

You know what I mean? And really no one cared. No one care. And I talk about, we used to do this filthy lip sync dance duo, which was like, we were just like horrors. We just wore underwear and, like, drew makeup all over our face. And we were called Sluck. Our names were slut and fuck.

Slut and fuck. We were there would be a month where the entire Google Cal was just, okay, Sluck is performing Thursday, Saturday. We were a hit. Yeah. And there was one time. when we realized, like, it was over when we looked out into the crowd

and there was one person. And it was our friend, Amanda. By the Binds? Amanda Binds? She didn't get to that show. It's better she doesn't know about Slunk. Ritz Crack and I, we did the show together at Hurtrack.

At Hardware Bar on Sundays. Let's go turn it on Sundays. And like, this is what I think the girls in New York, all of what I've heard is that girls aren't interested in like growing shows anymore. Like, they start doing drag in the living rooms and they're like, well, my booking fee is $150 and blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, no, when Crack and I started that show, I turned on Sundays, I'm not kidding.

There would be sometimes maybe two people in the audience. One drunk lesbian and one guy asleep in the back corner named Rupal, just asleep. Not paying any attention to us. We did the show, we did our thing, and we grew it and grew it. And by the time we were like, but right before we left because we couldn't do because of drag race because we were traveling and stuff, we had built a show that people who would come out to on Sundays and we like packed the bar out. But I'm like, you got to just, you got to work like work for that shit. And then once you say you learned so many things from just being in the room in the same space.

Yes. Yes. Like, you know, I didn't like have traditional stand-up comedy. Like, I was going to the cellar and doing all the, like, you know, how Mateo and Nicole and all these people do it. I have so much respect for, like, what they have done because it is hard. It's really hard.

Mateo would talk a lot, too, about being, like, the only gay guy and, like, how tough that was. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I kind of did mine in my own way by coming up in drag and, like, performing for two and three people and like doing bits. And four years ago, my agent was like, hey, comedy dynamics,

they want to do special before different queens. I was like, special like, what? He's like, comedy specials. He's like, are you're interested? I was like, well, I'm not a stand-a-comedian. He's like, well, yeah, you are. I was like, I've gone to your shows. I used to see New York before.

I was like, you are a Santa comedian. You're just not calling yourself that. And I was like, I don't know. He's like, do me a favor. Just sit down for a week, try to write some material, see where you get. And then let's talk after that. So I like, it's like a week off of work. and I was just at home, like writing bits, going over material.

I was like, okay, I think I have like an hour here of comedy. That next week he booked me at the Brea Improv. I did the Braya Improv, sold it out, did a really good job. And then this is what I don't love. The next week I recorded a special, which is not what you do. But you couldn't have known that. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah.

So I recorded my first special ever after literally doing the material for literally one week. Right. And so it's fine. Yes. But now I worked on this new hour for the past few years. This material is so fucking funny. It is at such a good place. I'm so happy for people to come see it.

And like these comedy clothes, when they book me and I come and after a weekend, they're like, wow, that was really good. And I'm like, what were you expecting? Yeah, I know. Like, you're not someone who does the thing where you don't work your fucking ass off and just show up.

Like, that was an anomaly. Yeah, I was like, what are these girls coming when they're doing here at these clothes? So, anyway, but I'm happy that it is working out well. And this new hour is so beautiful. I'm very happy with it. Our knees gendered to you. Because you and Zay would talk about how your feet, you got foot feminization surgery.

Yeah, FFFAS. Potha. Podiatric feminization surgery. Podiatric. Why not? Yeah. Feminization. Maybe it's title of it.

Tited of that. I mean, you went to a podiatrist. Well, he's not a podiaturist. Oh, sorry, he is a podiaturist. But my friend who's a surgeon said I should have went to the orthopedic? Orthopedic surgeon. Okay. I was going to say foot doctor.

Foot doctor. You said Andy has gargwar feet. Stop it now. Bob says that. I think Andy has very beautiful feet and I posted it on our Patreon and people have posted his foot to Patreon

Yes. With his consent, I'm sure. No, no. I stuck a figure We were right I don't know like No idea. He was like

cozy up next to you and get out of this room. But I think Andy has pretty feet Let me show you Andy. How do you say Andy? We would love to see the feet. Annie is so pretty

overall. I mean he like he is a different man now than he wasn't wrong. Sometimes he pops up on my grid and I'm like okay.

Andy. Well, you know, he's still has some straight tendencies we're trying to beat them out of him but for the most part. What are the tendencies? Like, okay, this also, I recognize that I may have

a tinge of OCD. Yeah. Okay, I think you're probably not alone here. Okay. Yeah. So, but as game, and I feel like that's kind of

our default factory setting. It's a game power. It's a gay power. Yeah, yeah. And Andy, since late to the game, he doesn't see these things so I am constantly, he does this thing.

He got a fucking ninja creamy for Christmas. What is it, Ninja Creamy. Like a mixer thing? It basically takes, you can put anything inside of it, and it can turn it into an ice cream or a sorbet. Ninja Creamy.

Oh, I am happy thinking about it. A ninja creamy. It's so good. It's kind of like a Nutra Bullet, but like for making ice cream and sorbet. Yeah, yeah, it is. So he does have this disdain. He makes all these sorbets.

He puts them the spring. He'll pick one out of the freezer, take the lid off, put the lid on the counter, and leave. No. And you just have a dirty ice clean on the counter. I'm like, when literally the sink,

this is lid, the sink is right here. Only just take it and put it in the sink. Can't have lids on the counter. It's real culture number 20. Can't have lids on the counter. Like one time our cleaning lady left at like 5 o'clock.

I walked downstairs and at 5.05 there's a dirty lid on the counter. I said, what is this lid doing on the counter? I was like, Andy, get out here right now and wash this lid and put it away. And does he do it in shame? Yes. You watch him.

You just shake your head. Yes, I sit there and I'm an avid, make the bed every morning. So there's nothing better to me than coming back home and just getting in a nice made bed. Unbeatable feeling. At a certain point, there is no excuse for your bed not to be made. And I will full on go over to friends homes. And they allow me to come in the home when the bed isn't made. Pills on the ground.

Close on the ground. Disgusting. It's disgusting. I don't want to see it. And I'm judging every time. I'm judging. I am judging. you. Do you top sheet?

I don't top sheet. I don't top sheet. I don't top sheet. I don't top sheet. Yeah. That top sheet, that's a step too far. That's a step too far. Because then you got to straighten that. Yeah. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. I don't need the top sheet. No. I'd recently started, well, I was into duvets. That was annoyed because I watched like every

try every week. Let's be honest, every two week. Every two is fine. Every two. And then I'm like, redoing the duvet was like, I was like, I just can. It's such a to do. So now we just have like three different comforters. We just rotate. We vacuum seal the ones we're not using. And just use the one that we're using. We're doing duvets.

It feels like you're going cave diving. I still don't know what the good plan of attack is around that. You're supposed to turn it inside out, line it up, do the roll it, right? People are nodding. And then take the labia and then put it. Contemptually I get that, but that doesn't mean I'm still not like a menace in the sheets underneath. Like, what's going on? Yeah, it doesn't work in practice.

You got to pause whatever TV show or podcast you're listening to. To focus on only make a duvet. Exactly. Yeah, I can't do it. I've had anxious fits about it. I'm like, I can't do it. It's like, why? Why?

So, like, little things like that, I'm still like, you know, turning on the counter is a big no-no. And all the points for you just gained for that proposal, Andy. Out the window. Some of them have gone out the window. You're still up.

You're still up. Andy's always up. Really, really, really. Is he, would you call him, wait, did you, did you want Bob talk about this? Is he like a fitness influencer now, you think? He's trying to be. But like, let's make it happen.

He has a full-time job doing his like recovery work. I'm like, do you don't have time to fitness influence? I think they work hand in hand. Well, you know, he is, his whole thing is that, well, you know, I got to like keep on going on all these expensive places. I'm just trying to keep up. I'm like, yeah, well, keep up, bitch. Yeah. Yeah.

100. Get a third job. Get a fourth one. Honey. You got five? Exactly. You fucking got five. You got jobs coming out your ears.

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Would y'all ever do the traders? Okay, this has come up like, this is like the fourth time it's come up. Well, but from someone from the show. Yes, absolutely. No, this is the first time someone from the show is brought about. We love the show. And we said like, what was it?

Probably two years ago. We came on an episode all brave and we're like, we'll do it. Ask us to do it. Please, we want to do it. And then they asked. And I don't know about you, but I personally thought about them editing me into a character.

I thought about doing reality television for real and earnest. And it made me very uncomfortable. This is what Joel Kimbooster says too. It's like the three of it. He's kind of like influenced us in this way where it's like they, you're handing over the edit to them. Do you have no idea what they'll do? Are you over that fear now?

Like, do you still have a sphere? Yeah, because what I've realized in the reality of you have done, I'm like, it really just amplifies who you are. I think both of y'all are actually funny, good, nice sweet people. I was like, so it is virtually

impossible to turn you into some like gargling monster because that's not who y'all are. Who sent you here? Who sent you here to get a sign line on the dotted line? The people who go on TV and look like like, like Michael Rappaphor is a bad person. You know what I'm saying? And I have to say, like,

I wonder what you think about this. Based on the reactions that people are earning now out and about, they feel very strong. But I wonder as someone who went through it, how are you feeling with everything has shaken out in terms of the way people are being received, the way the game is going, like, fallouts. Like, where do you sit in all of it? I, did this come out after? What did this come out? This is going to come out, not this Wednesday, but the Wednesday after. Okay.

We can't talk about the reunion. But I think that... Who shot it yesterday? Oh, great. I think that, for the most part, what happened in the castle is what is showing... Again, there's so many conversations that happen that you don't know about. So it's something that you see on TV, like, oh, that happened, I didn't realize that happened. But for the most part, I think, like, how people were behaving the castle are what they did.

Like, we all knew Coltsons playing an aggressive game. And I mean, and I think the consensus online is that it's a bad strategy. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's just playing hard. He's just playing hard. And I'm like, I'd rather, honestly, I'd rather Colton than a Tara, Lipski. Tara don't know what the hell is going on.

I'm rooting for them. Because in this last episode, it's like, it's like the two of them we're just like talking at the roundtable about like, okay, so the truth is we're best friends. And so for that reason, I know he's not a traitor. Like what?

It's just like. I'm like, oh my God, how brave of Tara and Johnny to come out of his friend. Romana. That's so brave. No one knew. Girl. It's just also so funny too because other people in the house, you can tell it split from people being like, yeah, I knew they were best friends.

Like, I know the Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weird thing, duh. And people that are like, they revealed that they were best friends. And that was the worst thing he ever could have done. Like Mark Ballast being like, they just really signed their death warrants. I'm like, can someone, I don't know who I'm rooting for. I guess I'm rooting for Mora Higgins. For Mora. Okay.

The T about Mora. I'm not kidding. This is a fact. She said it in the castle. She was going on. Mora had not watched a single episode of the show before we were in the castle. Mora had no idea there were banishments. Mora had no idea people were getting murdered.

I think someone's getting murdered tonight. Literally. After the first night, she was like, I think after the first round table. I tinked as a traitor. I think, I tink. Sorry, go, go, go, go. Go, go, go, sorry, no, do, do. I, tink. I tink.

Storin's the traitor. Candace is. gone. Suck some strange. After the Porsche got vanished, I'm not kidding, we were all in the, everyone was really upset.

Yes. And we're all in the, the kitchen. And she goes, is this going to happen every night? Ah! And I was like, are you doing a bit?

Right, right, right. And she had no idea that the banishment has happened every day. Yeah. Moore just wanted to come on TV and wear beautiful clothes, which she did.

She did. And we think she's a stunning individual. Oh, there's some frames the show where I'm like, what? And that's her in real life. Like, Mora looks like that. Like, she has beautiful, gorgeous skin.

She wears, like, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little mascara baby. And she's, like, looking stunning. They should do it watch a pack-in for the traders. Ooh, that would be good. Like, that would be doing. You have a live Michelle massage in there. Well, you know, they reach out to a little birdie at somebody. They've reached out to, like, some people do the show, but a big deterrent is that you can, you have to do your own glam.

But that was an issue for you No, no, not for me But for other people like Allegedly like they have they asked need to me More is doing her own glam Honey Okay, well Matt

That's crazy town What? What do you think it's going on with her hair? I think they're wigged Thank you Yeah, yeah yeah But the white girls on threads were like Moran's not wearing weird

I'm like you think her hair Went from a bob To booty legs overnight They're wigs girl That one hat she had Was pretty genius to all her hats Oh, her hat. For everything she's wearing is fierce.

I will also shout out Candace and Rina, both looked incredible all the time. Yeah. I am a little bit like, I kind of can't have Tara and Johnny get, like, voted out immediately because with Candace gone, they are kind of now I'm watching. Why I'm watching. The way, I'm watching. Because Candice leaving, I'm like, she went out in a place of glory, but like, I really bought her to go to the end.

We're a Candice house. We're team Candid. Drive back one record of the year at the Culture Awards. Here's the thing about Candice, right? Does she come for you? So, when we had the third. thing and like Alan Alan chose the traitors I was like in my mind

I was like I know I just knew I just said myself I said I know Colton Natalie Jam Jam Portia and Candace I was like those five those are fatefuls I just feel I just know that they are because in the show people like well you can't trust I'm like in that game if you don't trust people you have nothing you have to trust something right you go with your gut and you play an honest game based on that exactly yeah so I trust a canis and I said to her in the bar

I brought into the bar no one was there I was like Candace look I don't know if you were faithful I don't know if you were faithful I don't know you're a traitor. You don't know if I'm a faithful. You don't know if I'm a traitor. If I'm a faithful, I will never bring your name up at the round table. And if I'm a traitor, I will never say a name to Turk. I just trust you. I want to go to the end of the game with you. She was like, she was like, I got you. Said me too. The next day, she, when I was in the challenge, I said, girl, I think Lisa might be a traitor. Fuck, you did. I said that to her. But the thing is that these little passing conversations, like, you don't think anything of it. It's just

literally like a girl, I think Lisa is a traitor. It was literally that quick. And that could just And that's the thing that gets you out. So she told Lisa that night. But I think her flaw there was that Candace was not arming herself with enough allies outside of the turret. It was the winning strategy for Ceres season one was that she had so many allies. Exactly. And Rob is playing the game now. Rob has so many allies outside the turret.

So he doesn't have to trust Lisa or Candace because he has an entire cast of people that he knows that would never write his name down. Yeah. And also he has the benefit of being on the right side of two. Traders votes. I honestly, so this last episode just ended, and it's Kristen Kish questioning Eric. And she's like, I feel like there's something weird with Eric. And she tells Rob, I'm like, if I'm Rob, I, because they have the option to vote out Chris, to murder Kristen.

I murder Natalie. Let Kristen keep spinning on Eric. And then turn around, be like, you're right. It is Eric. And then you vote out three traders, then no one about thinks it's Rob. Yeah. I think Rob, Rob, if he plays this next episode well and will be a little behind. and when this releases, has it sewn up.

Rob is so sick. Well, he was so quiet. I think he was so quiet. The producers are laughing at me. And I don't even, I'm not even crazy about wanting to fuck him. I think Eric is cuter. Here's the thing, like, I'm like, Rob is cute. I'm like, but I am not on the, oh my God.

People are like, Rob is so hot. Just kidding. I'm like, he's cute. I think he's incredible to look at. I'm not like, whoa, falling off the couch. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, it's not that for me. But he's a very sweet guy, though.

He's so sweet. Love him. And he was so quiet. I was like, I just, is this Alabama or is this just homeschool? I didn't realize why he would just, I thought he just at home school. You know what I mean? And I was only there for, what, five episodes. So I, and I, with my time there, I thought, I trusted him too.

I was like, oh, I think Rob is a faithful. You never, he never crossed your mind. No, not at all. When they revealed that little digital content afterwards, and I was like, Rob? I knew Lisa. I knew Lisa. Yeah, I knew Lisa. Her, after that murder and the thing, what she told Caroline, no, you won't.

See me at the Brabacom whenever it was. And that next morning, we asked her to explain the thing. She was so obviously just picking it out of her ass. Well, there's a trait. And literally. And mask is black. Black. Exactly.

So I was like, girl, like, come on. So that was when I was like, oh, Lisa's a traitor for sure. And I said it to Candace. And what a gag. But it was so good though. So good. You got out being right, which must feel good. Yeah, it did.

But no, because you do not get a round table. I would rather be mad at so I can fight for my life. Sure, sure. You can get like the drama of being persecuted. Like I want to curse everybody out before they like kick me out of me. I want to fight for myself. You know, you want a tribal council. Exactly.

Yes, yes, exactly. You know who had a really good one last season, Sierra Miller? Sierra Miller was just like, she went down like a bad. Like she really, really was good. Are you guys watching? Do you watch Summer House? No. Have you watched Summer House?

No, Summer House. It's a thick season. Is it? And she's on it and she's, she's having an amazing season. Like, she's really good reality TV. What is the purpose of the summer house? Kind of just, you know, we're partying. Okay, that's it.

You see them go back to the city during the week and they're doing their little day jobs and then it's every weekend they go to the summer house. Oh, okay, got it. Wait, so y'all don't answer the question. So you're on the fence or you would? I'm on the fence. I'm on the fence. You know why?

Because I had to say no because I was shooting a movie. Got it. So I couldn't do it that season. I just, you know what? I'm not a no. Okay. I'm not a no. But they've also,

also it would be hard to do it with certain people because the thing is like if we went in together, I feel like that's a Johnny and Tara situation. Oh yeah, for sure. And we wouldn't be able to fake it. I know. That's the thing is we would not be able to. There's no way. Oh, I'm not talking about it because I don't want them to know.

Work very close. Like the entire world, no, y'all could not hide that. No, we can't. But I think they're still, like, could you imagine Tiffany New York Pollard industry in this world? That's what I've been waiting for. What is the big idea? I think she's every,

because she's done every season of House of Villains, and they film the same time. See, whoever is managing her in this regard needs to toss the House of, it's no shade to the House of Villas. No shade. But Traders is a bigger show. Traders would make it. And we need her.

Yes. It would cause a commotion. It would be Tiffany. New York at that roundtable. Bring Gemma back. Gemma too. Jamma and Tiffany. We always need just one Brit just up in the castle. Bring Gemma College.

Oh, please. What, what, you have to imagine there is a list with these names on it. I'm sure. Like, NeNeNe Leaks needs to be at the roundtable. NeNeNex has given us reality TV gold monologue. Has you ever seen Celebrity Apprentice with NeNe Leeks on this? Yes, of course. She was bullying LaToy Jackson.

At one time she's literally standing over her and she's like, she's like, that's why I have, go back at you. age and not 12. And then Latvoli looks up her and goes, all you have me is height. You just have height. All you have is height with a TH. You just have height. You just have height. And then there was there a whole moment where Nini was like, bye ghost, boo goes. Bye ghost. She was saying boo. By Casper. Boo. She was saying boo to a ghost, which doesn't really make sense. Boo. Boo. Oh, so good. Nini was and remains.

And remains. Remains. Remain. And it made me so happy. It's very much I do think so, honey, to me, that they figured it out so that she can come back. Because if you're going to do retrospectives, and it's within reason, because for some people out there, I don't think it's within reason. But I'm so thrilled that it was within reason for Nini and Andy to come back together and for people to get what they need so that this can all happen. 100%, which means she's in good grace with Peacock, which could be Peacock to the traders. Yes. So I'm like, cross my fingers. I'll be getting any leaks on traders at some point.

Of course. But the glam part. I was just going to say. I think I'm not doing my own glam. Okay, but you don't think an exception could be made? You've been on the inside. Oh, no, they're not. Let me tell you something.

That show, they care so much about the integrity of the game. They do not play. Everything is in secrecy. And they make sure that you are really having the real experience. They don't fuck around. You can tell. You can tell because the way you guys are treated like someone's been killed. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I used to watch a show. I've been like, these celebrities need to get alive. Girl, no one's really dying. Everyone calmed down. Girl, after the, after Porsche, I was like, we should have a eulogy. Yeah. This is really sad.

No, because you believe the reality that you're in. And by the way, like, they do an amazing job of creating atmosphere. And Alan is so, you talk about, like, how it feels to have his theater in those moments? Yes. So, thank you for saying that. Alan is really, I mean, he's a theater actor. Like, Alan, this is Alan's back. Yeah.

Alan is doing his thing. Alan is, he's so grand and so major, and he's so presentational and everything he does. When you walk into that round table, you walk in there and they play the hanging tree from, from the fucking Hucker Games? From the Hunger Games. Wow.

Because it's just sets the mood. It sets a vibe. And you're like, oh, shit. We all sit there in silence and we'll listen to the song through. Then Alan comes in. He gives his speech. And they let you go. And you just go.

And it's always like, who's going to talk first? He's going to speak first because it's like, It's nerve wracking. It's nerve wracking. And then someone breaks the silence. They do it. And we're going at it for like an hour, an hour, an hour and hour 15.

It's a long-ass time. And it's added down to like 10 minutes. And how intense does it get like emotionally? Like, do you feel like it's captured on the screen? Oh, no, I think it feels more in person. Like the really intense one when I was there was when Tiffany was getting unbanished. Yeah, that was a lot. That was such a bummer.

Yeah. But it was even more intense. Tiffany was going in. because, like, she was going off for a while and then people were going back and forth with her. And she was like, listen, I'm here for my son. Yeah. She was like, she was like, I'm here from my, I'm sending a,

I was saying an 18-year-old blackboard of college in three months. She's like, I'm here for this money. But, you know, if y'all, if y'all don't think I'm a faithful, then to send me home, send me the fuck home right now. And it was just sitting there like, oh, wait, I do believe her now. Yeah, I know. We still got to go home, bitch, bye. So at that point, like, you're still thinking, like,

I can't stick my neck out. Yeah, because I'm like, what? she's just a really good actress. I know. I was like, I had this gutter film that it's her. You gotta go bitch bye. But you know who ruined it? Danielle.

Because she swore on her what? Her grander. Her grandson. Yeah, but you know what? I think that's fair, fair game. I think it's fair game too. If I'm gonna break down,

bent myself out of shape and swear on my grandson and I'm lying and you believe me, I bet myself out of shape. I'm not not paying for it. I'm the one who did the deal with the deal with the devil at that point. I agree. Also, I miss her just over the top, like,

campness when someone cried. My favorite was, I think, like, it was towards the end, and someone cried and she, someone got banished, and she's there, the hands are shaking. She's like, people did way too much on her because it was so fun to watch her to know. It was great. I'm like, and I also tend to think people are doing too much on everyone,

because ultimately at the end of the day, every episode has been so good, and if someone is flopping, that's also part of what makes it good. Yeah. great. Yeah. Celebrity of UK traders. Did you watch?

Oh, yeah, I did with Alan, Alan Carr. It was a great season. I heard the news civilian one is, I heard the best. The civilians are great. Oh, yeah. U.K. ones are amazing. Because they, baby, they want that coin. They want that coin.

And then they pay people with the most random job. Like the clairvoyant, season two. Oh, yes, the clairvoyant. The clairvoyant was truly out of this world. But I think season one of Australia, my favorite traders. like season one of Australia because season two of Australia it really went off the rails

but season one of Australia and I think like honestly every season of UK traders season two excellent like I never watched a New Zealand one because I was like we're in like an Airbnb what is this I was like this is someone's

summer house I'm like this is an eventful and else I'm not watching that and you're a survivor girlie Survivor girl you love you brought you were the first person to bring Survivor into Drag Race I feel yes yes I wanted to play that game and I did that little

influencer or Island they did this past summer, which was fun. 36 hours. Yes. And I was like, you know what? They're going to be nice. So it's not going to be that crazy. Baby, it was the real experience.

Wow. We were really out there on that beach. Cold. It rained on us from 3 p.m. until like 6 a.m. the next morning. And I was like, like, surely it's like a health hazard. Like they can't do this. And they're like, oh, no, yeah, I'm going to sit out here.

Just us and one cameraman on this beach. It was insane. Cold. Would you do the show? Not after the rain. It's hard to be cold. It's hard to be cold. I mean, I wouldn't do it.

I think I would, though. I love Survivor so much, though. You get the opportunity to do it. I'm like, you know what? Carpidium? Carpidium. But not Mike White, just getting back from doing his second season

and then came back in full on Rote White Lotus. I know. They're casting it and going. I'm like, how do you have the capacity to go do season 50? Right. And then come back and fully cranked out the biggest show on TV.

Yeah, that's wild. And now it's going and like, I don't know, like, it'll suffer because of it. Word on the street is it's going to be a really good season. I hope so. Because you know, there's a, you know, there's a, you know, there's a, you know, there's a, you know, the fans do not, like, necessarily like the new era. Right, right. So I'm hoping with bringing back majority old era players will get more of that gameplay.

It's merging, it's merging, right? It's like, it really is, like, a beautiful cross-section of, like, like the entire history of the show. That's what it feels like. Yeah. I mean, they certainly got from season one to season 49.

Yeah. Miss Jenna from Borneo, the first season, Jenna Lewis. She's like the biggest veteran. And then obviously Colby is back. I'm still not over it that they don't have Jerry Manty on that beach.

Jerry's not back for Sputty. No. That's not. And even Colby now is doing press being like, I'm not even going to lie. Like I got there because it's his actual first season without doing it with her.

Heroes and Villains together. Heroes and villains. and the first All-Stars and Australian Outback. So he was like, hit the beach for the fourth time. She wasn't there. Not going to lie. She deserved to be there. And like, apparently he said in a recent interview,

a lot of what they didn't show in season 20, Heroes versus Villains, was Jerry and Colby going off to fish together and actually forming a relationship, a friendship. Oh. Just genuinely being like, let's do something together. Yeah. And he said that their history, like, actually moved forward.

So he said, had she been on the beach, for 50, I would have been like, let's play together. Let's play together this time. And how fun would that have been? As a fan that show would have been delicious to watch. One thing I will say about Jeff Probst is that that man, you know, you know, from drag race and other shows, like, a lot of times the hosts, they have the airpiece in and they're getting fed stuff. And Jeff refuses to wear an airpiece. Raw dog game. He raw dogs the whole thing. He is looking up, talking, like, getting information

on every character. When he does those callouts, like, so Matt, so you worked at a clam shack. How is that the one's the survivor? You're like, He knows these backs. And I go into a torrid affair explanation. Like, well, I was vulnerable. He goes into detail on everyone. He's doing that from his brain. He's not getting fed by producers.

He loves that show so much. When you are learning the challenge, Jeff is running you through the challenge. It's not a challenge producer. Jeff is coming and, like, running it. Okay, you're going to grab the snake and bubble up. He's like so in it. He invented it.

Yeah, I was very impressed by that. Yeah. He's an icon. He's an icon. Did you watch Australia versus the world? Yes. Harvardian, Mike. girl. Parvety. I thought he was

applauding. I actually thought someone left to their feet. I thought someone was like actually knowing the tea, which is that it's that it's not true. It's so good. She killed that by the way. To see Surrey come back at Trader Season 1 and

just dominate and then seeing Parvety dominate Australia outback, don't forget, Ceree also was dominating up until the very end, just like she did in Micronesia and Surrey is back for Survivors' season. and I am praying that it goes well. I don't

know how it could. I know. Because they're going to see her and be like, you have to go. Yeah, she's a threat. Torese is a threat. She's a threat. She's a threat. She's such good gameplay. And she also like, you know that every fan of the world is going to be on her side. Oh, 100%. So if you do care it all about the edit, better to just get her out really quick

so that she can't get to the end and then you be the one looking at Sari at the end being like, sorry I try to be you, everyone in the world rooting against you. Yeah. No, Ceree is she's good. And I met her a few times a person. She is so sweet. Yeah.

It's just a kind nurse. She was working the hospitals during COVID. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. We'd be remiss not to ask you about Drag Race. I don't know you and Bob are doing the watches, the Watcheries.

Yeah, watchery. What are your thoughts so far? I think the season is going very well. I like it. I like the girls a lot. I like that the median age is not 21 anymore. Love that. We're getting girls in their 30s.

Yeah. And yeah, you know, Draggarts is what it is. I think fans who watch Draggers are expecting something different. I'm like, it's the same producers. It's the same, like, it's the same show. It's comfort viewing. Exactly. It's comfortable viewing. We know we're going to get a snatch game. We know we're going to get designs. It's going to, like, it just is what it is.

People get frustrated. Like, oh, why don't they? I'm like, this is what it is. Exactly. But I'm enjoying it. I can't believe there was a, they made Jan's sport, whittle her name down to Jan because they were fearing a lawsuit, but they let Sierra Mist keeper. Oh, because I guess Sierra Mist doesn't exist anymore. They don't. They don't exist anymore. What? They don't. It's sorry now. Yeah. It's sorry.

It's sorry. It's no more. Sierra Mist is no more. It's story. It's a story. I just answer my own question. How do we get Jansport out of business? I don't know. But she also is spelled differently too, so maybe that's the thing too.

Because Sierra Miss was S-I-E-R-A-S-E-S-E-S-E-S. She was supposed to like one-two-step. Yeah, one-two-step Sierra. The best Sierra. It's actually Ruralo Culture number 15. One-two-step Sierra, the best Sierra. I, Mia Starr is my favorite. Be a star

I like her too I like the Dian's The Dian's Yeah the Dianns Juicy and Athena Juicy and Athena I do like Dedy because she's a Denver girl

Okay I think the most memorable thing about the whole thing Is watching Discord Adams walk Of course Of course That walk is good The walk is so

Good for me Yeah and I A lot of people are turning on Jane don't Which I like her Why? Because she seems a little perturbed In all of her interview

She's always like Kind of like Mean mugging And like rolling her eyes Like these girls I think people of getting the vibe. Like, she feels like she's better than the competition.

Which, I mean, to be honest, she is very funny. Her runways are incredible. Great runways. And so she's, like, killing it. So people always, I don't know, it's weird. Sometimes people really love, like, the one that's, like, shining above everyone, like Sasha Colby, uh, jigs monsoon, et cetera. But then you have someone like, Jane, who's doing a good job, but people are like,

no, not her. Yeah. I don't know why. Maybe it doesn't have to do with, like, the energy that she brings to it. Like, that gets reflected back. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

I'm a Kenya pleaser fan. Of course. She has nothing more to offer. She has to go home. I think, didn't she? No. No. She was saved by the Raider Queen.

She was saved by the Raider Queen. Oh, right. Yeah. Love Kenya, too, but she has nothing else to give. Not great runways. You don't know how to lip sync? You don't know the words to your own song? Yeah.

That's insane to me. In the Year of Our Lord, 2026, you kind of have to go up there and know the words to your song. At least to your song that you were shown of the vocals to a few weeks ago. Like what? That was insane. In an unpadded room You know what I mean Wait, when was the last time you lip synced lip synch?

Okay, so it had been a while Yes. But, you know, every Once a year I try to do a show at my, I used to do my one-woman show At Saturdays at Hardware Just a good old nasty Drag

Hard drag show Exactly, hard drag show Me doing an opening number To the Gospel Truth from Hercules Yeah! Doing like three or four lip sync numbers Then doing the drag to a Saturday end So I did that like two weeks ago

At Hardware and it was I just... How did the Drake's Suicide go? Oh, it was great. It was great. It was so good. And I will never, ever not want to do a show like that. Like, because now I don't really get to do shows like that ever.

It's coming back once they get to New York and just doing it. The bar was packed up to the front door and it was just a great time. I had a great time. We need to bring back those times. I know. It's bumming me out to know that so much happens online. I know. It's how comedy is.

It's how comedy is for sure. I mean, like, all community-driven activities, whether it's like watching drag, going to see comedy, etc. It's just you have to be in rooms. You really do. You're like you have to learn from each other what feels good. I agree with that. Like I really think it's important and I think I get really bummed out.

Maybe because it's this time of year it's very cool. We all feel extra inside. And so I think we're extra on our phones. But especially with everything going on the way it's been going on, like it's all very isolating. And just to like here you were out there doing a show like, I don't know. We have to be in rooms. Oh, no, for sure.

We have to be in rooms. It was great. The energy was dope. And then afterwards, I, like, I, like, ran back to my hotel. I changed, and I went to go see Fred again.

I did Molly until, like, 4 o'clock in the morning. Fuck, yes. Fred again. I was Fred again. Ah, so good. Was that that new venue in Queens? It's like a studio.

It's like a soundstage they make into a performance hall. Wait. Are you a Coachella person? I've never been. And I got jealous when I saw y'all there. You know what? Come with us. He had never been until last year.

He got obsessed with it. I've been going three years in a row. I did not think I was going to be this kind of person. You really can figure out. You cross your arms at it. Yes, I understand. I was you once. I was self-protecting.

It was you once. Okay, maybe I'll try it. I was just like, everyone who describes Coachella, they make this sound like it's such a to do. Like, they make it sound like, it's like Burning Man. You have to like. There is so much good real music though. Okay.

Once you get over the logistics bullshit, which there is a lot of that. Once you're like in, you're like, this is great. Truly genuinely, like, wonderful. Okay. Like, you're gonna see something special. It boldizes your cynicism in a way that you're like, oh, look, there's like, sure, like I'm on a little bit of shrooms, but there's like a kid there, like dancing to yoga baga-gab.

It's sweet. Okay, you said cynicism and I heard synesthesia. I'm like, wait, you can see colors. Literally, I was like, that's so fair. Both. I'll never forget, like, it was two years ago, like, there was a day that was just really, really, really, like, hot. Like, I walked by and there was this young singer

singing this song called The Hardest Part, and it was Olivia Dean and I was like, remember her. Oh. I was like, you can see, and we saw Victoria Monet.

Oh, and that show was sick. This was after she had one best new artist and stuff, so she was kind of popping off. But Chapel Rhone, the show that made her launch,

like we were watching. Oh, was Coachella? Yes. You can see some really cool stuff about a year, two years in advance at Coachella, during the day at those smaller tents.

Like, I really like just seeing who's around, just going where there's energy. Like, some people will just be, we're all going to, to go see this and it'll be someone I've never fucking heard of. And I'll go there and be like, oh, I feel like

I was able to catch a vibe there. Again, it's being in rooms. These are all outdoor tents. That's why I like it. Okay, maybe I'll try this year then. Wait, who's headline? Do we know who's... Cerevaniccarbored Carol G. Justin Dever. Okay. Yeah.

So the headlines are fun. It's a good variety. Okay. Yeah, it's pretty good. The only festival I've ever been to was ACL. Cute. Also, City Limits. I always get jealous.

They always have great. It was great. And that's when I met Sizzar for the first time. And I like, I met her. I was like on my flight. I was like leaving LA to fly to Austin. Just go see her. Love my girl.

It was before SOSA came out. So it was after control, but she had some singles, like, whatever. And then so I'm like, I'm on my flight. I got, I was sitting in seat 1B. And I'm like sitting there just on my phone. It was, they had the good Wi-Fi. Yeah. So I'm on Instagram.

I'm looking at stories. And then I get to her stories randomly. I'm like, oh, boom, boom, boom. I was like. She's, yeah. Wait, that was like adult. I was like, I saw someone with the outfit on. Bitch, I look back and she is in seat three C on the aisle, like two seats behind me.

I was like, oh my God. So I text Patty and I said, I was like, Patty. Patterns on my flight. And he was like, go say hi. I was like, don't I can't say hi to her? I was going to talk to me. And he was like, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not going to do that.

So we land, I get off the jet bridge. I was like, you know what? I should say hi. I just wait here at the end of the jet bridge. Like, by the ticket counter. Let me just say hi. So she comes off. and then I go

Hey, I don't want to bother you I'm coming here to ACA My name is Monet I'm a huge fan of yours I'm so excited to see you this weekend She was like Me and my team knew that was you She was like

I love you I was like I love you I was like I love you I was like no Why would she know that You know what I mean I was so gagged I was like I'm a huge fan

I was like I'm just so excited to see you She's like well do you have tickets I was like yeah I have tickets already She's like well take my sister's number And she will like make sure to do you guys have like a nice private space to watch it.

And I was like, okay, great. To get the number and then I leave to go to baggage claim, I went in for my bag, her and her sister walk over to me. She's like, just so you know who you texting, this is my assistant here. And then we're talking about like being both from the East Coast because she's from Jersey. I was like, I'm from New York, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Because I didn't want it to get awkward. I was like, oh, I got myself now. I'll leave. Didn't have my bags. But I just didn't want to say anything weird. So I just, like, dipped out, waited for her to get her bags. Yeah.

Went back to get my bags on the thing. Monet. I was like, let me just leave it. I don't think it weird. It's like when you reach a point where you're like, I can only mess this up now. Exactly. That was the energy. Let me walk away and just wait until she leaves and then get my shit.

But she was literally the nicest. So nice. You get that vibe from her. Like, Bowen has such a funny interaction with. Oh, I just went up to her when she was at SNL. This was like right before SOS came out and I was like, you are, we did prom. You had the Pekiki. I was there when they first met.

Oh, word. But I was there and I was like, I looked at her. I've said this since control. I was like, you are our generation's Joni Mitchell. And then she went, she went wide and she was like, oh, you like me. Oh, you like me. That is so accurate, though. Yeah.

It is. It's her. Yeah, it's her. Confessional shit. Yeah, it's so good. And also effort, like, I feel like everyone just like, you know, celebrates the pen, celebrates the pen, celebrates the pen, celebrates the pen. Her voice is so easy. Not 100%.

Like, her voice is so. easy. She's so musical. She's always like it's just like her voices in her brain. You know what I mean? It's like you feel her thoughts as she sings. She's literally a thoughtful singer. I say the same thing about like Sarah Borella sometimes

where it's like I feel like they're... You hear how smart they are in their voice. I agree. Also because you can tell that when she writes like sometimes like people like write, they will like get the track and they're writing through the track. You can tell Siza is she goes home, she does her journaling and she's taking her stories and just like

sometimes freestyling it to a B and just finding what works. Yep. I feel like she's a singer that writes like a rapper. Yeah. And I'm obsessed with her, whatever her process is. I'm obsessed with how she's able to fit these fucking soliloquies. Yes. Into like this like verse chords, pre-hook, whatever.

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Listen to Mind Games on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I think it might be time. It's time. It's time for I don't think so honey. Oh. So this is, of course, that moment when there are three moments each a minute in length. And they all are, and I don't think so honey, a little tantrum on culture.

I have something. It's based in a lived experience. Okay. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey, melatonin. Uh-huh. You are demonic. You are diabolical.

You're devilish. I wake up in the morning. It's depression. A fourth D. Uh-huh. Didn't even mean to do that. I honestly, I have had the most vivid dreams after taking these pills.

Also, I've also been on Laksipro, so they've been like interacting. I think I'm waking up and I don't know what's real. I had a dream that we wrote a whole film years ago. Years ago, we wrote a whole film and it was getting success at the Sundance Film Festival. And I was like, I don't think we wrote a film. And they were like, no, you did, you just don't remember it.

And I was like, what? And they were like, you're getting acclaim. at Sundance and I woke up and I thought for about 15 minutes like, but why don't I have a film at Sundance? 15 seconds. Because I took two, three milligram, megal milligram gummies of melatonin. And I'm depressed for six hours because I think I'm losing my mind. And also depression.

Melatonin, no, you take, you don't give. And that's one minute. You take, you don't give. You take. And it's not my first time being in like sort of a moment of not. feeling great and then melatonin you take it to help you sleep and it wakes you wake up and things are worse i think melatonin is a deal with the devil i think you can make it like dwayne read you can make it dwin read if they if it still exists the veil was so thin between the world of the dream where

we had written a sundance movie but you in the dream were like you guys are gaslighting me we don't have a movie i literally was telling them in the dream i was like we didn't do this they were like you did you are getting acclaim. You wrote and directed this film together. And I was trying to me with him and he was like, yeah. Directed. No, it was like an auteur moment. We were having our autur moment at the Sundance Film Festival.

I swear to God, I lived this. And I woke up and I was like, I can't believe that this thing we did from college or something because I started to really believe it. I can't believe we're ever going to claim. And this one is film festival, which by the way, passed. past what? This is way past.

The Sundance Film Festival is not now. This happened last week while I was in Milan because I don't know where I am. We've been traveling and taking drugs. Someone just told me James Cameron had a dream

in middle school that was Avatar. Oh my God. And then he made it. Is this true? How do we know that's true? We know that's true. Really?

See, this is what the straight guys behind the camera knows. They know that James Cameron had an avatar illustrations. James Cameron is so rich that he invents new technology for every movie in his. I watched those ridiculous when they have like a sponge and like some mop bristles on their heads. He's like, hey, hey, I'm a film guy. Do you guys want to know how I think we can go to the bottom of the ocean? And film at the, like, they have to invent new technology for his movies.

It's insane. That's funny. It's fierce. Has anyone seen Fire and Ash yet? Yes. You have? I did. Did y'all not see it?

No. It's so good. And we're like Avatar Hive. We really do appreciate the French. I mean, in this last one, they really center a spider. And I'm like, okay. They really centered a spider? Like spider.

Oh, oh, oh, see, I forgot. I forgot the kid's name was spider. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I heard that she was giving everything, though. Oh, who? Which was she? Oh, yeah, she was great. She was so good.

I almost called her Miss Contras. Because I feel like that's spiritually. Cuntress, Excella. Hunter, Hunter, Huntress. Hunter, Huntress. No, she is, the villain, she is, she's amazing. I love her. Her acting and just, oh, it's so good.

She's gonna be around. Everything. Okay, I'm watching, that's an edible arrangement. I'm telling you, I'm seeing Wuthering Heights, I'm seeing Avatar Fire and Ash, I'm seeing the moment, and then I'm surely passing the fuck out. Triple feature. Okay, Bowen-Yang, do you have such a topic?

I do. Okay. This is Bowen-Yangs, I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so honey, orthodontics. orthodonture. I don't, I think the desire for straight teeth is like a sham, right? Like, if I had fucked up teeth, I think I would be a more interesting person. I think straightening my teeth has taken texture away from my personality. I would have had to overcome more if I had a gap tooth.

If I, I think, I think orthodoxer is maybe the beginnings of a body dysmorphia that is permissible. I don't think it's a gender dysphoria. I think it's a body dysmorphia where like something's wrong with me, I have to correct it rather than accepting it. Now, I just came from the dermatologist. And I think that is also, I would not, I would not be as eager to go there and get a laser-beamed at my face. If I did not suffer as a teenager in a formative time in my life to let someone poke around in my mouth and put metal and rubber bands in it. Five seconds. To give society permission to mess with this, what is already maybe just fine to begin with.

That is one minute. First of all, you glow, shimmer, and more. And second of all, let me see it as you. You have great teeth and great skin. I had a Siamese baby tooth. What does that mean? Talk to more about that. It was the one tooth that rooted as one and then branched off into two. Siamese?

Oh, wow. It's probably not the... That is cool. It's not the woke thing to say, probably. To the Siamese population, we really... I had a conjoined tooth. And I... I

we stand with the Siamese We stand with the Siamese And that would be a conversation start If you still have that That was pretty sure And now I just I don't know I feel like

I feel like I should have just left this alone You know what I mean Like you have got you haven't You are perfect teeth brigade Well you know I wanted to get veneers No don't Don't do it So this was this is after Vizaline

Yes I was in this city I had my lesbian dog to Shout to Dr. Harrison I love Dr. Hispanic Lesbio Super Sonic lesbian. You just say doctor?

Yeah, doctor. Doctor. And then I went to her and I was like, I want to get veneer. She's like, no, you're not. I was like, I want to get finery. She's like, I can afford you now. She's like, no. She's like, you're going to get in Vizaline and you'll be fine.

Trust me. And I am happy I got a viseline. There you go. I mean, they look, they're glowing in the dark. Remember that song? Yeah. That was like a song for like a second. Well, you know, teeth, like health is genetic.

Is it? Because my first, like, up until I was like, I didn't necessarily like flossing like I should as an adult until I was like 22. I would like go and eat later and I not. But it's because like a lot of it is just genetically like just I didn't have to work very hard to maintain my teeth. I think my teeth are gaining space. Like I think my teeth are starting to run away. Like I look at my teeth and I'm like, there's more space between these motherfuckers than I know there was.

And I'm going to get to the bottom of it. It's a knives out mystery in my mouth. Social distancing is over. Social distance. Wasn't Portia that said your titty? are social distancing. That's really funny. The Porsche said that to who.

Yeah, she did. She said to someone that their tinnies were social distancing. And I forget to whom and when it happened. Atlanta during COVID, I think, was doing better than other franchises. During COVID, yes.

I fucking love Portia Williams. There's no bigger icon. I am obsessed with her. She's so funny. She's so sweet. And she was gone right away. I was so mad. When I saw Porsche with it,

I was like, yeah, gag. I get to play with Portia Williams. I'm obsessed. Portia can do no wrong for me. And her ass is insane in real life. Yeah. Of course.

It's a literal show. Wait, did people pick up on this on like TikTok or anything? Like, I think her roundtable where she got banished, some, I think it was more who, like literally said, who said that? Like someone said that at Porsche's round table. Oh, I didn't even beat that. No, go back. Go back and watch episode one of tears. And there's no way more I knew the reference.

No, no, they didn't know the reference. But someone says, who said that? Oh, my God. That's so iconic. Funny. Watch it. Porsche. And she'll be on the reunion too, I think.

This thing that this road trip that they just did. Oh, yeah, ultimate girl's trip thing. Have you been watching Potomac this year? You know, I've never watched Potomac. I heard it's good. I heard it's good. I've never watched it, though. It was by far our favorite.

Then, like, something did happen. It just got a little weird. And then it's had a really good season. Okay. They'll go back. Salt Lake City, Potomac. Those are franchises that when they're on, I'm really in.

And usually Beverly Hills, but just kind of lost me this year. I don't know why. At least her rent is not on Beverly Hills anymore. No, she hasn't been for a few years. Okay, but on her last season, she was like a villain on it, apparently. Yes.

Deeply. Yeah, yeah. She was deeply villainized on her last season. I really think she was having, like, a very hard personal time. Okay. She was morning. She was, yeah, she was grieving. Yeah.

Their whole story, a lot of the storyline this year on Beverly Hills in the beginning anyway, and then it has come up a bunch is that Garcel left. Like, they can't seem to stop. Talking about it. Like, they're running in circles, about why Garzaa left. I'm like, she left because she didn't like you guys.

Yeah, she was over it. Like, she was over. This was a job for her. Yeah. I was like, she was done. Yeah. Being on this cast. Yeah, with y'all bitches.

Yeah, and they just can't arrive there. No. Yeah. That's just going to be in civil war in five years. Well, maybe it was because we didn't. I was like she didn't like you. Yeah. That's something to me.

I'm going to leave the podcast. No. Come on. Come on. Okay. You ready? This is the moment. I am ready.

Okay. Here we go. This is money exchanges. I don't think so, honey, your time starts. Now. I don't think so, honey, about people show me pictures of their children. Okay? The other day, I had the privilege of being in the Delta One, loud of you.

What privilege? And I was trying to enjoy my sausage porridge. And this woman comes over to me, she's like, oh, my God, are you, Monarch? I'm like, yes, I am. And she's telling me, she's talked to me. She's like, you know, I love drag. You guys really helped me out through my pregnancy. Thank you so much for your hard work.

Beautiful. I love that. She's like, do you mind if I show a picture of my daughter? To which I said, sure. She pulls out a picture and season 10 was 10, about eight years ago. I'm expecting to see at least a college-age student in front of me, right? She pulls out a picture of a baby. I'm telling y'all, one, straight out the pussy.

No! You know what it's still wrinkly? The eyes are still closed. They're still covered in chlorophyll? I could not... Wet. 15 seconds. So I was like, I don't need to be accosted by a picture of a newborn baby at 6 o'clock in the morning

in a Delta lounge where I'm going to be eating bacon, sausage, egg, and cheese. I don't think so, honey. Keep your children's pictures to yourselves. and only under my permission if I ask, then you show me. Until then, don't do it. And that's one minute. And that's one minute.

You're never going to ask to see a photo. I will not. Especially not right, not cooked, rare baby. Rare. Baby serve rare. This baby's medium rare. And like, you just gave birth to Lord Voldemort. Okay, you have to chill.

Translucent baby. You have to chill. Covered in chlorophyll. Or whatever the stuff is on it. I don't know what's on the base. No, I see it. I just, wow. Yeah, it was wrapping.

The thing in the morning should be the egg sandwich. Exactly. Not the baby. And I had to look at this thing. I had to pretend to be like, oh my God, that's so nice. Thank you. And so she was basically saying that she was watching season 10 super eight years after, or seven years after it aired.

No, no, she was watching it in real time. Like, when she was watching, she was having a hard pregnancy, and watching Drag Race really helped her out. Comfort. I see. And I guess you show me a picture of the baby when the baby was born. Right, right. But I don't know why I wouldn't see a current updated picture.

Like, what is Cynthia doing now? What is she need to know what she's growing into? Yeah, what is she growing into? But when 2016 10 was eight years ago. I know. Is that crazy? What is time? Honestly, I think my favorite seasons were 9 and 10.

Really? Of all drag race? Yes. 6, 8, 9, 10. What is 8, 910? The thing is, I liked when it got a little bigger, too. A little bigger. Like, I loved when it was.

like, trust me, like those were the golden age years, definitely, like five, six. Yeah. Like, eight was like truly like when it got big, it felt like for community reasons. And then nine, ten, it did have the mainstream moment that I think I really liked

watching. But nine, like, the pinnacle of Drag Race for me will always and forever be. I love this. The finale of nine. I mean, it was a cultural moment. And the last few episodes of nine, like, just. Yeah, it was good. Yeah. Yeah. A true neck and neck.

And then Sasha coming out of nowhere. It's like... Yeah, like, anytime a season of reality show, a reality show ends at its climax, that's good. Yeah, it was great. And also, like, all those, like, earliest seasons were on logo, those were, like, the dark days of drag race. They paid those bitches with chewing on.

And they were really being mean and nasty. And they were really being broke down. They were broken down and tired. They were awful back then. And also, like, you think back to the early seasons, y'all, Season two of Drag Race, there was not even lace brunts. They all had a hard front. They was not literally not a single lace front was on the show.

The first lacefront to every being on Dragers was Manila in season three. What? Yeah, Manila had... That's historical fact. It is historical fact. Manila was the first... You must have been armed with an FAQ. He's the first lace print.

And back then, they were all wearing Charlotte Ruse and Wet Seal. Like, that's what drag was back then. And all these bitches are wearing, like, custom... Couture. Valentino on the runway and I was like great great you know

Seriano could be making the whole collection also do y'all see the Suriano runway show where Cocoa Rochal was wearing a beautiful gown and Leslie Jones is like come on Coco

and like Leslie Jones is just screaming at the next best that's what you want like Coke you better wear that dress Coco

yeah just screaming and just screaming I was like Leslie Jones I love her she's really oh la John this was so fun I'm sure

babe Happy birthday. Thank you. I know. I don't know what I'm going to do for my birthday yet. I'm not a big birthday person. Me neither. It's a water sign thing.

Yeah. You're a cancer? Scorpio. Scorpio. Pisces too. Well, here's the thing. I did not know Scorpio's were cancers until, I mean, water signs until like a year ago.

The scorpion gives very on the land. It gives like fire or land. Yeah. Because of the venom, though. The venom is the water. We're dripping. We're dripping. We're dripping.

We are dripping. We are all water signs. Yeah, we really are. A cizasas. It's a water is a scorpio as well. Exactly. I mean, that was what was so special about it, was seeing it. It was nominated for Best Vibe, hands down, at the Culture Awards.

She did her wet-ass S-OS show on Picey season on my birthday when I was crying. Tearful, tearful, tearful, major. The planets are aligned. We can only hope. We love you. We love you. I fucking see the tour. All the shows, Monet Talks, sibling rivalry, et cetera.

And we end every episode of the song. And if you want to have I hate you, I do. Jimmy if you do, that's what I do and you feel just like it. And if you want to hear that, listen to SOS, which by the way is still trending in the top 10 on the board. Like somehow. It's a four-year-old album. Holy. That's crazy.

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