Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Queer Scuttlebutt" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
Episode Date: April 17, 2024Hello m'donna's! It's smoke hour today on Las Cultch as weekend one of Coachella officially ceases. We got discussions of FLO, Reneé Rapp (with KESHA!), Victoria Monét, No Doubt (with Olivia Rodrig...o!), Bleachers, Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, Doja Cat and LANA DEL REY (with Billie Eilish!). This episode also serves as a little love letter to Lana Del Rey from aspiring stans Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang. Also, the Teresa Giudice x Tayla Coachella pic and general Taylor vibes pre-Tortured Poets, Judy at Carnegie Hall, and some love for the new Maggie Rogers. All this, OJ Simpson being dead, the cast of MAD TV, the power of T-Pain, and the news of Dr. Dillamond's casting. Drop those shoulders <3See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, Matt.
There.
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow.
Is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling.
I need to hear all about my girls' weekend.
Let's just say Coachella weekend one has ceased.
I was there.
Oh, Bowen.
So Bowen and I are going to have an herbal refreshment while we talk about Coachella. We were both exhausted. Oh, Bowen. So Bowen and I are going to, we're going to have an herbal refreshment
while we talk about Coachella.
We were both exhausted.
It's smoke hour.
It's smoke hour today on Colch.
I just walked in from, I think,
one of the best weekends of my life.
I'm so happy to hear.
The only thing that was missing was my sister.
Shut up.
No, I'm not even kidding.
You would have loved this so much.
I don't know why I thought on the outset that, like,
for some reason I thought this year wasn't going to give.
Every single day was, from the second you got there to the second you left,
saturated with just the best vibes ever.
Activity, spectacle.
Yeah.
I mean, especially even just yesterday.
We walk in, like, we saw your girls flow.
Oh my God, flow.
They gave everything.
Of course they did.
They have this song called, There's a Reason Why I Walk Like This.
That's just about, they're this R&B pop group, y'all, that kind of throw back to, you know, the early days of like Destiny's Child, etc.
They're kind of giving you that like Y2K R&B pop sound.
They have a song that is called Walk Like This
that is just like,
if you're wondering why I walk this way,
it's because I'm getting plowed so hard
and so often that I walk funny.
The best Just Got Plowed song since Side to Side,
you would say, by Ariana Grande?
I would say without question.
I would say without question. And it was really, we're just sitting there and I brought a bunch of people
that did not know them. I just knew they were your girls, so we had to go represent. Of course.
By the way, they had some belts in Harmony that were unreal, but we were living at the lyrics.
I mean, there's a reason why I walk like this. And it's really so specific about how the dick do it.
The dick do it.
Can I just throw in some quick Wicked BTS?
Oh, yeah.
In between takes,
catch me Ari and Jonathan Bailey singing,
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
I'm a butcher and a cop.
Could you three figure out the harmonies?
Because I bet you could. It's just about if you had enough downtime to figure out who's'm changing the locks. Could you three figure out the harmonies? Because I bet you could.
It's just about if you had enough downtime
to figure out who's holding down the bass.
No, I wouldn't say any of the three of us
are professional singers.
So we did not do that.
I'm certainly not.
Bowen?
Those two certainly are.
You have proficiency as a singer.
Proficiency?
That is aspirational. Proficiency is That's what, that is aspirational.
Proficiency is something
we should aspire to more
and that's a rule of culture.
What number is that, Matt?
That's rule number 94.
Proficiency is something
we should aspire to.
I mean, all we really want
is to be able to go up there
and say we can do the thing
we were hired to do.
And be exactly on the mark
and not exceed anyone's expectations,
including our own.
Including our own. I will say each and every performer at Coachella
did exceed expectations. Of course they did. First of all,
it's been said on this podcast
to her face, Renee Rapp
on the outdoor stage yesterday
was such a moment. Not only was it a
Garnier Fructis ad in terms of hair,
she looked un-fucking-believable.
The L Word original cast introduced her.
Reunited.
Oh my God.
Reunited.
And the creator.
I knew about that beforehand.
I actually did too.
Like it was sort of creeping around.
An open secret.
It was the queer...
Scuttlebutt.
Queer telephone.
Queer Scuttlebutt.
Title of app, Queer Scuttlebutt.
Queer Scuttlebutt.
I love that bow.
Her live singing is un-fucking-believable.
Pretty crazy.
Then we went right from that
into Victoria Monet,
Bowen.
Ugh.
You know my feelings
about Victoria Monet.
If Flo are my girls,
Victoria Monet is
the Madonna,
my Madonna
in the classic, like,
Christian sense.
Like, my Donna. 100%. Yeah. My like Christian sense like my Donna
yeah my Donna
it's actually really culture number
95
Victoria Monet is my Donna
Madonna
is my Donna
wait M apostrophe Donna
Madonna like the lady
the lady
I just saw little snippets that you guys took from her set.
Oh my God.
And it seemed so fun.
She was dancing.
The choreo.
And here's the thing.
Executing every single second.
She looked great.
Her vibe was so incredible.
Everyone in the audience beaming.
So excited to be there.
To see the current fucking reigning best new artist.
Like she was playing in the Mojave
tent at sunset, which is
this really great
vibe. Oh, the light was so
incredible. She was amazing.
Every song
is interesting. You know what I mean?
It's not even just fun. Every
song is
really unique.
It's beyond the hooks. It's greater than the sum of its. It's beyond the hooks.
It's greater than the sum of its parts
in terms of the hooks.
It's like, look, I told you she can do it all.
Write songs, dance, sing.
What more could you want?
And the only note that I have for her is
I wish she would show some love to Kostin
because BTS on the set of Fire Island.
She did it?
Oh, thank God.
Because I thought she like,
she released it as a one-off
and I was like, maybe she doesn't like it as much as her other
stuff. I love that song.
North, south, east, west, baby.
And there was another song called
Smoke, which we
all, literally everyone just whipped out their
blunt to the Mojave Town. That's a great hook.
It was...
What a great
hook. It's amazing. Literally, that's what I'm saying.
Every time we smoke.
Yep.
And by the way, on the back wall, it was just blondes flying through the air, like in her visuals.
Everyone was just living life.
She destroyed.
And then what I would also say is, I've always thought of it as fuck music.
It is also party music like Jaguar
should be at every wedding
absolutely
if I had my druthers any event I have
Jaguar is going to be what gets people up on
their feet I'm sorry to Bruno Mars
we've heard it Jaguar 2
you just mean the whole Jaguar
I mean the song Jaguar
oh I see I see yeah that whole album though
i mean top to bottom top to bottom she's an interlude called big boss on that album on the
first jaguar don't i know it big boss like a thousand dollar bill i love victoria fire island
this past summer what was I playing in the bed
like when we were just like idling in bed
I was playing Jaguar 2
the entire time
I love that album
I love Victoria
we have to go see her
can I just say
so easy for my diseased brain
to like watch the Coachella
stuff be a little jealous
I was so thrilled,
happy for everyone who is there, including you. I mean, like, I feel like with you, it's like,
I immediately would turn the jealousy into like, oh wait, my sister's having fun.
But that didn't, that filter wasn't even there in the first place for me. I was just watching you
have such a blast. You looked great. Dave looked great. Jared looked great.
Steven looked great. Patrick looked great.
Was that Noah Cyrus with you?
Who was that woman? No, that was
the iconic Bianca.
Bianca? She's a dead ringer for Noah
Cyrus, as if she's her mother.
She's Steven's bestie, and we
were all on an extremely
high vibe.
It was like,
I just have to say,
I think last year was my first time ever going.
And I was also in a certain state of mind last year when I went,
you were,
you were with a group of people,
God bless them that you weren't totally familiar with.
And that makes it's fire Island rules.
It all depends on who you go with.
Yeah.
And so basically like I fucking,
I just remember last year being like,
and also what I'll say is the weather was perfect this year. And last year, it was so fucking brutal hot, which is a risky run.
That actually last year, I was like, I can see myself not coming if I didn't love the lineup.
I am so happy I went.
And now I'm the kind of person that's like, I think I might go every year to that.
Because it's just worth it.
It is so worth it when you see, first of all,
we haven't even talked about the fact,
and I can't even believe I didn't mention this,
which is honestly a compliment to Renee Rapp,
how good she was.
Kesha came out and they did TikTok.
That's amazing.
And that maybe was a top three moment of the whole thing.
Right.
And I haven't even gotten to all this other shit.
We have huge news for the Raiders
Kitties Club as a finalist about a certain artist who
was one of the headliners and we will
go into her and her career and her
story very soon.
Listen, I just want
to say Kesha and Renee
doing TikTok was such a
vibe moment. They changed the lyrics to
Wake Up In The Morning and Fuck P. Diddy, which felt very good.
And just that happening, like broad strokes,
like no doubt, that was incredible.
Like every song hit, Gwen felt like Gwen.
Gwen.
You know what I mean?
Gwen felt like Gwen Stefani up there.
She hasn't felt like Gwen in a while.
I mean, she was so Gwen that she snot rocketed on stage.
I texted you this.
You told me that.
I went, wow.
I don't know if it was allergies
or she had gone back for some touch-ups
or something.
I'm snot rocketing now,
but only because of allergies,
not drugs.
But do you think you would do it
on a big screen in front of,
I don't know, 75,000 people?
You would snot rocket.
I snot rocket a little in mixed companies sometimes.
And I forget.
It's such, because I'm thinking this now,
this is very top of mind now,
because allergies are crazy.
This is a 79 degree day in New York today.
Beautiful weather, but the pollen is out.
And I don't think so many Claritin and Zyrtec
because you need to do your fucking job.
Yeah, get together. Claritin and Zyrtec because you need to do your fucking job. Yeah, get together.
Claritin and Zyrtec cannot quiet quit on us.
Do you know what I mean?
Show up, clock in.
Don't dilly dally.
Don't scroll on your phone all day.
Anyway, I'm really disappointed in Claritin and Zyrtec,
but I would not rock it in public.
What was Olivia like?
First of all, Gwen says,
Olivia, right? Like she said, it was kind of like threw it away. I'm of all, Gwen says, Olivia Rodrigo!
She kind of threw it away.
I'm like, did she just say Olivia Rodrigo?
Because that would be... And then I saw it was totally her.
Scott got it first.
So I turned and watched our friends
and the crowd. I watched it hit them.
And that was really fun.
I mean, again,
those kinds of collabs were happening
all across the board.
And let me just, I'm saving her for last because it really was the turning point of the moment for me.
But, like, I walked away from this.
But fucking Will Smith came out during J Balvin's set.
And they did Men in Black.
We missed Shakira drop in on the show.
We missed Katy Perry drop in on the show.
We missed Katy Perry drop in on the show.
We missed, I mean, it's unbelievable at any given time,
like who's just there.
Of course.
And like, I totally have no issue with it being like the standard thing to do at Coachella.
Just like surprise drop in guest.
But there has been a lot written about the exceptional thing,
and this might dovetail nicely
into what we want to talk about for a bit,
between No Doubt and Olivia and Lana and Billy.
Like those were the two exceptions
where it wasn't like younger upstart
bringing in like-
Legend.
Legend.
Yeah.
It was like mother bringing daughter on.
Yes. And that is very
cool and interesting.
It just seemed like a very...
For all the people who've written this
year's set off, including us,
this year's lineup off,
I feel like it was a very cool,
compelling, newsworthy Coachella year.
Yeah. I mean,
let's just say, first of all, there's other
things on my mind. I want to just shout out Bleachers
because they were unreal
and Jack Antonoff you are
a king
a king for all time
he really is a king like that boy is a rock star
and I didn't know he was such an incredible
performer
musical genius incredible performer
you know he's just but he is like
all of these things and he is comfortably all of these things and he is comfortably
all of these things that he has known. There's
never been any sweat on Jack's face.
No, except the beautiful
sweat on his body during the set.
And he was looking like a king.
I was like, this man has
every girl here if he wants
them. It was like all
the Katie's were at Bleachers.
That's cute. And i met you guys and i
loved it and we were all we were all saying that's the king right there i just couldn't i could not
be a bigger fan of jack antonoff especially after that so wait billy and lana talk about it euphoria
oh my god euphoria ocean eyes into i just couldn't believe when ocean i started what was happening Talk about it. Euphoria. Oh my God. Euphoria. Ocean Eyes into,
I just couldn't believe when Ocean Eyes started,
what was happening.
And then fucking video games,
like Billy on video games,
Billy's voice in Coachella,
ringing through the air,
singing that song on that stage.
Unreal.
Good luck.
Good luck to anyone else producing sound.
Honestly.
You flopped in the face of Billy Eilish singing video games at Coachella.
If you produce sound, you lost the war.
You're done.
Stop speaking and singing.
If you were making any sound with your vocal cords in that moment,
Honey.
You lost the war. You lost
this one. Take it home.
Billy?
Billy is such a freak and a half.
Her voice is nuts.
Her voice is
yeah, nuts. It was unreal.
And also, I had to text Bowen pretty
immediately after Lana said because
I think it's public apology
time. Well, because to anyone out's public apology time. Because to anyone
out there who thought this was a pop...
No, I'm just saying
anyone who listened to this and thought, oh, this is
a great pop culture podcast, we
have never given Lana the credit, and
I want to take ownership
of my own behavior.
I just usually, and I'm not
blaming you for this, it's just usually
you would be the person to tastemake for me in this way. And I'm not blaming you for this, it's just usually you would be the person
to tastemake for me in this way.
No.
And I'm surprised that you're not a Lana freak.
I am a Lana freak now.
I think I am on the way to Lana freakdom.
Can I just say, this is something that
I think people can understand.
And I think Lana fans, Lana gays can cop to.
But there is something so prohibitively passionate about a Lana Del Rey gay.
That they're like, the barrier of entry is high.
I know. I know.
I know what I'm doing here.
And if you come out and say,
oh, I'm not like fully literate in Lana,
then that is immediately disqualifying and I think doesn't encourage you to explore further
because I think people start to get angry at you.
Yes, she has gay
mafia. She has gay mafia. It's
similar to
Barb's, maybe, to be fair.
It's not similar to
Swifties, where Swifties,
even if there's a dilettante Swifty
who, like, crosses paths
with them, a Swifty's not
gonna, hopefully not gonna be like,
well, you don't deserve to be called that. Right. Yeah, going to be like, well, you don't deserve to be
called that. Right. Yeah. They can be like, oh, you started with 1989? Cute. Like, come here into
my arms, wear a bracelet. Like, Alana Gay will throw arsenic in your face. Yeah. If you're not
like fluent in Blue Bannisters, it's kind of over for the girls. It's over. If you don't know the entire Kintsugi melody,
if you don't know all nine minutes of what's that song, Venice Bitch,
then you are dead.
But anyway, I've been, I would say I've been a dilettante Lana gay for this whole time.
And I would love to make inroads
to being a full-fledged Lana gay.
I think it's going to happen for both of us.
What I would ask for from our audience,
and maybe if there are some
Lana gays out there that
feel already, they feel their
shoulders rising at this conversation,
what we want to say is we acknowledge
your authority.
We acknowledge your authority.
We must sound so stupid right now.
We kiss. We kiss. We kiss.
We kiss you. I will say,
I think the big moment for Lana
personally, where I
was like, she might be one of the greatest songwriters
of our generation, was
Norman fucking Rockwell coming out.
It was like 2017? No, 2019.
2019, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. Because you know what? Norman fucking Rockwell, out. It was like 2017, 20, no, 2019. 2019.
Yeah,
yeah.
I mean,
yeah.
Because you know what?
Norman fucking Rockwell,
like it is kind of
little monsters
put your weapons down.
It is what art pop
kind of was trying to be.
An album about art,
an album about artists,
an album about people,
men,
women,
whatever,
who are artists
who are destructive and toxic and about how
art itself is destructive and toxic.
Like, I fucking
love that album and I was like, whoa,
something's happening here. Cinnamon Girl,
are you kidding me?
Also, like, Mariner's Apartment Complex,
so fucking good.
Doing Time, ah!
It's a great album.
I mean, out of my, like weekend of yes really seeping in it
i am actually a lust for life girly oh i love that i am really obsessed with a lot of songs
on there and also i love born to die i love her first album and i realized actually when it came
out i did listen to it a lot because I'm literally
sitting here and I'm like, oh, I'm off book on a lot of this. This must have been something I
like let absorb in college. But really, truly, I think something did happen around that SNL
performance that like did mar her in the minds of some like, you know, millennial gays that like aren't as smart as you,
the Lana fan listening
with your shoulders still raised.
You, we kiss.
We love you.
We're obsessed.
You are the authority.
We're dumb.
And we let the SNL performance derail us.
That was our bad.
Yes.
You know what derailed it for me for a bit?
What?
Listening to National Anthem
when that album came out
with our good girl, Rachel Dorofsky.
It was me and Rachel.
We're high off of our gourds in college,
listening to National Anthem
and laughing, crying tears at her singing,
money is the reason we exist.
Everybody knows it's a fact.
Kiss, kiss.
And we were like,
that is the dumbest lyric ever
written. And now, but see,
now this is the thing. And like, this is what I wish
I could tell myself back then in 2012. Like,
wait, wait, four
albums you're going to see. It's her thing.
It makes sense. She's a character.
Yeah. People were telling me that back
then, but I didn't realize it. Yeah.
You just thought, oh, this dummy.
This fucking dumbass
writing about money, kiss. She made
kiss, kiss rhyme with exist.
This stupid idiot. I love it.
Now I'm the stupid idiot.
I don't know where I was at back then. I was like,
do I think this is ironic or not? I hope
I did, but I can't recall
literally it being
around. I just, I was never
interacting with her. And then because i think the
snl thing like took up so much space but i knew the album i knew the music but now when she's
performing at coachella and by the way her vocals are incredible beautiful like live they're haunting
she's got such control i love the amount of like character she plays when she sings. Like I love, she's just very fucking creative.
Obviously just like,
I now understand everyone being like,
this is the one.
Like I remember years ago,
even Kanye West,
sorry,
said like,
no pop girl is doing it like Lana.
She,
she is leagues ahead.
And I remember being like,
what?
He is crazy. And then
now I'm like, oh.
And Billie at the end of their
set together was like, this is the reason
why half of us were even born
like giving all
the credit. Video games, a song that
came out when she was nine.
You realize like Lana Del Rey
has been around. There are albums
and albums.
There is such a discography that she like had, you know, one tenth of the stuff you would want to hear up there on that stage and not a moment wasted.
It was fucking great.
I love that.
I'm so, so happy you enjoyed it.
I hope she feels some amount of, I mean, she's felt this multiple times in her career since the SNL
performance, but I hope she's
felt some vindication.
And especially at Coachella,
that is a career peak for
so many artists, and I'm not saying she's not
going to ascend more heights, greater heights, but
I hope she felt very,
very proud, because that is
a long game of
knowing that people are going to deliberately
misunderstand you at first and then coming in on top.
Yes. Yeah. I mean, there was a billboard on the way out there that referenced the SNL performance.
Did I tell you this? There was a billboard that was like, it was some like biblical reference,
like, and then the date of the SNL performance and the letters SNL. And Patrick was like,
yeah, that's a Lana billboard.
I'm like, is she still stuck on the SNL thing?
Do you think she thinks about it?
Am I safe at my job?
Are the Lana gays going to fucking storm the Capitol?
I think that all we're saying is love.
I mean, I think that you are an ally now there.
But the Lana stans don't care who's there.
I think the Lana stans,
what if they just come and destroy us?
They're going to check us.
Please, I want SoBatly
to be part of the community and all I want to do
is come with my arms wide open.
If it means I have to disassociate from
Bowen Yang, I will throw him off
the bus. Lana goes,
take me. Take me!
Well, can I tell you something that got
in the way for me, for Lana personally,
and it's maybe the stupidest,
most
unbased, literally, thing
that I've ever acted on in my days
as a pop stan. I think you should, because
whenever you share personal stories
as a reason why you believe something,
it helps the listener really understand
you better. And I think that by
sharing this personal anecdote, that we're
going to come to a lot of understanding on the
podcast. Thank you for teaching
me. This
is something that I read on a message
board at gaga
daily.com. Oh no.
And this was right before art pop came out,
right after Lana kind of blew up.
And there was apparently someone might've lied.
Somebody lied to me several times,
several times on that message board and made allegations that Lana Del Rey was
posting screeds on her Twitter and Instagram,
but mostly Twitter at the time.
This person said that Lana was out there
being like, Lady Gaga sucks.
Fuck you, you stupid bitch.
Why are you collabing with Kendrick Lamar?
All this stuff.
And I was like, she's toast.
She's dead to me.
You were lied to.
Lana Del Rey.
I was lied to.
I don't think there was any actual beef
between Lana and Gaga.
It doesn't seem like there would be.
No, no, no.
I don't know why.
I think there is mutual love and respect there.
She kind of gives me the vibe of a character
that I sometimes do called shy, toxic girl.
Like a girl who's very shy,
but the second you fuck with her,
she can become very toxic. I don't think you even have to fuck with her. I think she's kind shy, but the second you fuck with her, she can become very toxic.
I don't think you even have to fuck with her.
I think she's kind of just toxic the whole time.
If you just talk to her, she's shy.
She will not make the first move in the conversation.
But if you just so much as try to strike up conversation with her.
Toxic girl.
Do you want to try it?
Do you want to do it now and show people what it is?
Sure.
Try to approach me.
Okay.
So Matt is kind of looking down, sipping
his water, blank stare throughout
the space.
Hi there.
Me?
Yeah. Hi.
How are you? A lot of people
here don't like you.
What?
How did you know?
Yeah, you're Bowen Yang, right?
Did you take a poll?
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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
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And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
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Everyone that came up at Coachella was so sweet.
I loved meeting you guys.
Of course.
Wait, and can I tell you where I saw the most readers and Katie's?
In fact, someone, shout out to the cute gays who told me they were publicists,
because I always remember my publicists, at Chapel Roan, who destroyed.
That was the first show of the whole weekend.
That was the tone setter.
Oh my God.
Chapel ascending in front of our eyes.
I'm so happy people were giving you the flowers you deserve
because you were king publicist for a second there for her.
Listen, it's all I can do to point someone to Chapel
when she's there doing it all.
Like, I mean, Look at that. Every single
time I see Chapel Rowan,
I leave thinking I was just a part of something
special. That was the third time I've seen her
and apparently her streaming has gone
way up since... Something shifted.
Oh yeah. Since even her
performance and obviously before that, like the
Olivia Rodrigo tour of it all,
people are finding
Chapel and the sky
is the limit. The Tiny Desk was huge.
By the way, if you haven't watched her Tiny Desk,
you must. I love that she's
committing to this drag queen aesthetic.
I think it's a blast.
But slightly busted.
Lipstick on the teeth. 100%.
And the new song
Good Luck Babe is really
really fucking good.
And everyone was living singing it.
The bridge is incredible.
I told you so.
She is wailing.
Wailing.
And the vocal is a real thing.
Producer Becker says her vocals.
Yes.
God, that song is so good. It's giving like, I don't know,
fucking Billy Idol
and K-Bush at the same
time. There's something so cool
about the way she's combining these sounds.
It's giving the gay pop
that JoJo Siwa is claiming
she's pioneering
right now. And she is.
Don't you dare question. No, I'm sorry.
If we're afraid of the Lana gays, the JoJo gays, come at me. And she is. Don't you dare question. No, I'm sorry. If we're afraid of the Lana gays,
the JoJo gays, come at me.
Oh, careful.
No, listen, I don't know what is,
I don't know what this new era is.
But maybe it's just not for me.
Which is totally fine.
In about 12 years, this is exactly
what happened with us and Lana.
You're gonna go, it was a character.
How come I never gave JoJo the credit
when she's headlining Coachella?
Yeah.
You know she's on her way
to headlining Coachella.
I love that.
I will be there.
And you're right.
I'll be eating crow.
I'll be eating humble pie.
Humble pie.
Now, were you in the vicinity
of Teresa Giudice meeting Taylor Swift?
No.
But here's what I will say
about that whole thing.
When that picture...
Okay, being at
Coachella Weekend 1 when Lana
is headlining and Sabrina's
there. By the way, Sabrina was very cute.
I love feathers. She's very cute. Espresso,
the music video is super cute. She was on the Coachella
stage. I do have to say I came
from Chapel Roan, which was
so special that
the energy was just lower at the Sabrina show.
No problem.
But she's adorable.
She looks like Hayden Panetti of fucking year in the face.
It's a head transplant.
I am sure of it.
So she is performing.
And so Jack with Bleachers is also there.
There's kind of just this looming thing of Taylor, right?
Taylor has the album this week, you know, like Lana headlining.
She had brought her up for the album of the year thing.
The fact that Billie came out and not Taylor,
I think everyone was holding their breath for Taylor to come out.
And I left feeling like, oh, like Taylor will definitely come out next week then,
like in Billie's place, like maybe the day her album comes out, Lana's head Taylor will definitely come out next week then, like in Billy's Place,
like maybe the day her album comes out, Lana's headlining, Taylor comes out.
But then people started talking like maybe there's some kind of like,
the vibe isn't very good between Lana and Taylor right now because
Taylor was like pictured in Sushi Park in Los Angeles and then came the next day
and took pictures with like Teresa Giudice. You know, she was pictured more with Teresa Giudice
at Coachella than Lana Del Rey.
And she was definitely like at the Ice Spice show.
So I don't know what message is trying to be sent here
or maybe it's just a girl at Coachella with her boyfriend
and she really wanted to have sushi on Friday
instead of see her friend headline
who she said was the reason
why all the girls are popping off. But we'll
see this week. I mean, let's check back
in in a week. Yeah, there was this
anticipation that then became
like a little like
like what's happening
and then she never did show up, but she was there.
She was there. Let's
check back in in a week about the
new album. Yeah, I love that. She's putting out in in a week about the new album.
I love that she's putting out a Kubler-Ross album,
a Stages of Grief album.
I'm very into the theme so far.
I'm very into the theme.
And do you see the songwriting credits?
All Jack and Aaron.
Mm-hmm.
Very, very interesting.
Let's check back in as we say.
You never know what to expect with Taylor no will we get Taylor or Taylor
maybe a mix of both
maybe Taylora
Taylora have we ever had
Taylora? BravX Taylora
that was the birth of Taylora
that was the birth of Taylora
she was so evenly Taylor and
Tayla that she was Taylora
was that Midnight That was midnight.
When did Taylor happen?
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
We are just swimming in the music,
swimming in the music.
I was just going to say like,
in conclusion for the Coachella thing,
it was just like,
it was nice to go to a music festival and see like,
Oh,
music is like in a really good space.
Like there's a lot of really cool artists.
Like I walked past this girl, Olivia Dean,
and now I'm such a fan. You walk
past and you
experience something cool and new. The vibes
were very good. The weather was fucking perfect, and I
was so happy to go. I'm so happy to hear.
Snippet of new Billie song
that she played for Zane Lowe.
I'm excited.
I mean, again,
Billie has me in the palm of her hand right now.
I think this is going to be a cunty album.
All love to Happier Than Ever.
Stripped down, jazzy, love it.
But, like, I do miss the When We All Fall Asleep era.
Like, fucking blast this at the club for me.
Why don't you?
Yeah, yeah.
I will say, off Happier Than Ever,
I do love Oxytocin.
That kind of gave something
like the first one
but I'm wanting sort of
like a monster single from her
that like but she's not doing a monster
single until after the album comes out
I love that move too
you know what I am going back
to my like
bag it roots
I bought the Judy at Carnegie Hall vinyl
go on I'm like oh yeah sure like you know Legendary Night bag at roots. I bought the Judy at Carnegie Hall vinyl. Go on.
I'm like, oh yeah, sure.
Like, you know, legendary night.
Yeah, yeah.
People are like,
it was the greatest concert ever.
I'm like, like truly,
like literally it has been called
the greatest night.
I think the greatest concert ever
or the greatest night ever
or whatever.
The greatest night of all.
The greatest night of all.
Something, no,
but I know you're being funny,
but like it was something like that.
Yeah.
I think she's the first woman
to win album of the year.
Judy Garland?
With Judy at Carnegie Hall.
Ooh.
I'm 90% sure I'm right about that,
but that album won album of the year
in fucking,
I think 71.
Oh,
when did that album come out?
Are you checking?
Or should I?
Judy at Carnegie Hall.
Judy at Carnegie Hall.
There are some Judy gays out there
that are just as vicious as the Lana gays
who know this year already.
Oh, absolutely.
They're listening to us do this
and they're saying, oh my God.
Please correct the record.
I met in 1961.
I was a whole decade off.
The album won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year,
making Garland the first woman to win the award.
Bowen, you knew so many of the elements of that fact.
And I just want to say that.
I know you're going to beat yourself up for the 1971 of it all,
but you knew so many elements of that fact.
Thank you.
Thank you.
But can we give it up for Judy?
100%.
These people in that room
are some of the luckiest people in the world.
Yeah.
That was a moment in history.
Was that like an eventized thing at the time?
I guess so.
Yeah, it was Judy at Carnegie Hall.
So then it's like,
was it like a big night?
It was like,
imagine like Beyonce doing one show
that was going to be a retrospective
of her entire career
in a 4,000 or 5,000 seat space.
You have to try to go to these things if you can.
You have to go see live music.
That's just how I feel.
So many times this weekend,
I was like,
I am so fucking thankful I saw that.
I may have seen the last time
No Doubt ever performs together at Coachella.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's amazing.
I will say, I'm sort of skipping around this.
Doja Cat didn't give what I wanted.
Oh, that's too bad.
That's okay.
Yeah, I mean, she did a lot of the last album.
And she did Demons.
And she had this bit where all of her dancers were covered in blonde hair.
And she had this long blonde wig and that
was really great. But she didn't do any
more poppy stuff and I would have loved some
of that. Well, she has a complicated
relationship with that. She seems tortured about
it. I think she did say so
at a show recently and was like,
come on, cash grab. And you're like,
but that wasn't a cash grab at the time because
you were writing that when you were
still up and coming.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, like she can,
her relationship to her old music
is whatever she wants it to be.
I do remember the days
when she was like just an algorithm artist to me.
She had an EP out.
She had a song called Go to Town that I loved
and a really awesome music video.
This was before Moo.
I was with Doja pre-Moo.
This is crazy.
I do remember you, again, Tastemaker.
Like I said before, you were the one who showed me Moo.
Not so much anymore.
I used to be pretty,
I used to keep my ear to the ground on these things.
Much better than I do now.
But like pre-Moo, I was like,
you gotta listen to this girl, Doja Cat.
She can rap, she can sing, like all these things.
And then I do like Scarlett a lot.
I do hope for the day soon
when she is able to like reckon with
the multitudes of styles that she's kind of like played in.
And so bring them all together
and not have those be at war with each other.
Yeah.
My thing is like, if you don't like the music,
then sure, don't do it.
But let's not act like cooler
than the pop thing that like has brought a lot of people to that stage to watch you you know what i
mean and also they're great fucking songs they're amazing songs they're great songs like i don't
know i and this is assuming again that she doesn't like say so. But if she said what you just said, then like, I don't know.
I think probably a note for that type of person would be to be less online and care less about what people say.
Because you obviously loved the song or liked the song a lot, at least at one point.
Enough to make a lot of other ones like it even.
And do that for a while.
So to shirk it off like that is, I think, a shame.
She even did that with Planet Her.
And I'm like, I thought that was like the Imperial Phase album.
And for an Imperial Phase album, that is an excellent fucking record.
I think Doja may be a little more bothered than she wants people to think.
I do think she's very online.
And that's okay.
Who among us isn't?
But I hope it's something that is overcome.
Very perfect blue vibes, I'm sorry to say.
Yeah, very.
And also I want to say what she did was excellent.
Of course.
It was just a lot of, it felt like an art installation and not a show.
No problem.
People do that.
Yeah, people do that all the time. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy.
What?
You told her?
Not today, Satan. Not today.
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Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13
to being one of today's biggest artists.
We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations.
I was a desperate, delusional dreamer.
And the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble.
I encourage delusional dreamers.
Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers.
Be a delusional dreamer.
Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer.
I just had such an anger.
I was just so mad at life.
Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine.
I had such a victim mentality.
I took zero accountability for anything in my life.
I was the kid that if you asked what happened,
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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Elian Gonzalez.
Elian Gonzalez.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian Gonzalez.
At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
His father in Cuba.
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or his relatives in Miami.
Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network,
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I want to shout out, I love the Maggie Rogers album a lot
oh yeah I saw you spinning it talk on this
it's just really lovely
tight perfect like
upstate driving music which I
told her to her face I was like
don't forget me had just come out
I had taken my trip to wildfire farm
and that
song came out and then I got to do
this thing at Carnegie Hall with her speaking of Carnegie Hall and I got to do this thing at Carnegie Hall
with her,
speaking of Carnegie Hall.
Oh yeah.
And I got to tell her,
I was like,
congrats on the new singles.
They're great.
Don't Forget Me
was like blasting in my car
on the way upstate
and it was perfect.
And she like looked at me
and was like,
that is exactly
what I was going for
with this album.
I was like,
oh great,
then I can't wait to hear it.
And then she even makes
an allusion to driving upstate.
Give it a twirl.
It's really good.
I will because that's when I first fell in love
with her was an upstate moment. Did I
introduce Maggie Rogers to you too?
No. Actually, I think you
probably were a reinforcer, but I do
remember it was on in the car
and the person that had introduced
Maggie Rogers to us was Mike
Kelton on this podcast.
Oh, yes, you're right. You're so
right. This was before she,
this was, I think, only...
It was right after the Pharrell moment.
The Pharrell thing had been out.
Yes.
And he had maybe heard
a couple other songs,
but pre the album,
because I remember then
we were proficient in her enough,
again, to bring back proficiency,
to be like,
oh, yeah, she has a lot of new music.
And then I fell in love with Light On.
Well, I played you the album
because the album had just come out when we met upstate.
And then I think, I'm not taking any credit
for reintroducing you to her,
but I do remember being like,
oh man, you would love the full album.
Yes, and then we were also there when she did SNL.
She did Falling Water and Light On.
She did Light On.
So that was a fucking huge record for her.
I loved Light On so much.
It was like the song I needed to hear at the time.
That was like after Henry and I broke up.
And I was trying to get...
That was at the end of our...
We had like a hard summer.
And then that was that fall.
Yeah, yeah.
Ben, look at you now.
Yeah, girl.
I did good since then.
My marijuana has enveloped my mind now.
So listen, talk to me about this.
OJ Simpson is dead. and his dad. I saw a headline
that
he was saying that
he told an interviewer once
that
it's hard for me to live in LA
because at any moment
I could be sitting next to the person
who quote did it.
Oh my god.
I'm like this man is still out here denying, denying, denying.
I could still be sitting next to the person who did it at any time.
What?
You are fucking crazy, man.
Goodbye, OJ.
I was at Coachella when I found out you died.
Patrick and I were like, House and I were like,
we're always like-
Somewhere.
Somewhere.
Someone dies always when I'm on vacation.
Yeah, it happens all the time.
Kobe died.
Oh, I was very much at home when Kobe died.
That was sad.
Who died when you were on vacation?
Didn't someone die when we were in Palm Springs?
Someone died. Betty White died when you were on vacation? Didn't someone die when we were in Palm Springs? Someone died.
Betty White died when we were in Mexico City.
Yes.
Someone did die when we were in Palm Springs.
We shouldn't be having fun.
When we have fun, it's too powerful.
People drop.
People drop.
People drop when I drop in.
A lot of people were on vacation when Betty White died because it was New Year's Eve.
Yeah, okay. We all share in on vacation when Betty White died because it was New Year's Eve. Yeah, okay.
We all share in the blame of Betty White's death.
We couldn't keep Betty White alive.
How fucking dare we?
How dare we?
OJ Simpson is dead.
What else?
We don't know where Clarence Thomas is.
Right.
He didn't show up to court.
If you're not going to show up to court, then what not gonna show up to court then what are we supposed
to do i mean yeah we were just talking in the car about this because we were talking about the
clarence thomas of it all and i was like this is not my i don't think so honey but i don't think
so honey lifetime appointments that doesn't make any fucking sense and it makes me so annoyed when
i realize like we have like a certain set set of rules that no one can question that are
so stupid. It is so dumb for someone to have a lifetime appointment to anything.
I thought we were supposed to not have that anywhere. Whatever, I'm so stoned. I don't care.
Bowen and I have a problem with the way the Supreme Court works, okay?
And we're here, Tom, Laskao and Charisse, to talk about it.
Welcome back to another episode of Talking Biden.
Our podcast slowly transforms over the next
six months into Talking Biden.
No! I can't
think about these things. But Bowen, we have to do
what we can.
We can't. We can't do this.
We will be renaming the podcast Talking Biden.
If anyone thinks we're being serious, please.
There was something I wanted to asterisk earlier,
like, disclaim, be like, we're not being serious here.
But I forget what it is,
and I am just going to live with the consequences.
There's a disclaimer on this whole podcast, okay?
That's what I want to say. It should be called
Las Culturistas Disclaimer. We are two
dummies, often
this high, talking about
tunes!
They're just tunes.
They're just tunes. And they're just characters
that sing them.
Are they real people?
I don't know. I don't know.
I mean, I'm very much looking forward to being with you in Los Angeles when this Taylor album drops.
Yeah.
My fantasy is we will be playing it and we will be on the floor staring at the ceiling.
I'm literally in the room where we're going to be playing it.
And the vibes in here for listening to music are so
good because my apartment is so kind of small so the music stays in a contained space that's what
makes the sound even better yes this is actually musicology prince was my teacher when you listen
to music in a very small room especially with with a carpet. The sound gets soaked up.
And especially on vinyl.
But we won't be able to listen to it on vinyl, will we?
I think we don't have to stay locked into this plan.
Necessarily.
You want to go watch it at Jared's because he has a quote-unquote house.
Watch it?
I get it.
Listen to it, I mean.
Listen, I'm not going to be picky.
You know what we are calling
from the spirits of Taylor?
What we are calling by doing this,
you being in LA
and us being together
for the first time we listened to it.
What we are calling is folklore-esque.
It's folklore.
Yeah.
We are calling that forward.
We really are.
It's better than when folklore came out
because when folklore came out,
we were at Greta Teitelman's house
and she
and Sudi were making too much noise. They were
making way too much noise in the home that Greta
owned. And I was like, you know what?
Stop. This is not about you
and the house that you own and have paid for
it. This is about us. You don't live
by your own rules in your house. This is about us
having an experience listening to Taylor Swift.
That
was a really special night.
Also, can I say one of the first nights
during the pandemic when we ate dinner outside,
we were being very like, you know,
COVID era, social distancing.
We were like, it's a weird world,
but it's a new world.
We're eating outside on the street.
But then we kind of broke the rules
and we're like, maybe we should go inside.
Like we've all been feeling okay
the last like week or so, right?
Let's just go inside.
Thankfully, no one got COVID.
Yeah, and it was five of us.
It was five of us.
When did that album come out?
Was it July 2020?
July 2020.
I will never forget.
Okay, so July 2020, people started rolling the dice.
Okay, let's just say it.
People started eating inside in groups of four.
Period. Period. And you did it. You say it. People started eating inside in groups of four. Period.
Period.
And you did it.
You did it.
Lana Del Rey fan.
Drop your shoulders.
Don't be so upset.
We want to be with you.
We want to be with you.
More than anything.
Oh, wait.
I got a clip of Lana singing The Grants,
that first track off of Did did you know there's a tunnel
under Ocean Avenue?
Amazing.
Like that thing with the three singers.
Yes, it was
really special. Like magical.
And there's such incredible musicians around
her too. I also want to say
she looked
unbelievable. I love that
shimmery dress. A movie star.
And the way that she came out was like her riding in on the motorcycle, like so unbothered.
And then her literal last song was Young and Beautiful.
And then just gets on the motorcycle and rides out.
Like no fanfare, just like bye with her little smile on. And the last question she asked the audience was,
will you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful?
Got on the motorcycle and left.
And I said, something for us all to think about.
My answer will be yes, Lana.
Yes.
Here's a question.
Is this the year of Gatsby?
Gatsby is somehow back.
Can it be the year of country and the year of Gatsby at theatsby is somehow back. Young and beautiful.
Can it be the year of country
and the year of Gatsby at the same time?
How can we make this happen?
I don't know.
I mean, did cowboys exist in the 20s?
Who's to say?
Who's to say?
I think they were invented in 2001.
Yeah.
I think it was when Madonna did music.
She started cowboys. She started Cowboys.
She really was first.
She really was.
Wait a minute.
You know who did an amazing parody of the music video on MADtv was Mo Collins.
Mo Collins doing Madonna on MADtv goes underappreciated.
Can we give it up for Mo Collins, period?
It's a movement, not a moment.
It's a movement, not a moment. It's a movement, not a moment.
I said that after every single set of Coachella.
And you were right every time.
Each time.
Now, I want to say, I want to shout out, I'm impassioned.
Because I want to shout out, randomly as fuck, but not undeservedly.
Do it.
Mo Collins, Will Sasso, Debra Messing, Nicole Sullivan, Alex Borstein, Stephanie Weir, Debra Messing. Debra Messing. do it mo collins will sasso deborah messing nicole sullivan alice borstein stephanie weir
deborah spears i said deborah wilson didn't you say deborah messing i'm scratch that take
deborah messing off mad tv had a goaded cast yeah let's leave it at that. Oh, those are some funny fucking people. They all had it all.
They did.
But Mel Collins did a parody of music by Madonna,
and it was about,
my movies make Roger Ebert.
It was so stupid.
Oh, it was about her bad reviews.
It was about her movies being bad.
See, Mad TV, you guys had a talented cast,
but you really did do some pretty mean stuff.
You guys were mean.
Mean.
There was no reason to say the things that you said sometimes.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
So if we just named you, sit in shame for an afternoon.
No.
No.
Sit in shame.
Yeah. No, no. Sit in chair.
The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.
I love that. I love that.
Oh, my gosh.
Welcome.
And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.
You're recording us?
I am disgusted.
Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy.
We were friends.
How could you do this to me?
I don't trust her.
The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+.
On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Elian Gonzalez.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian Gonzalez.
At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
His father in Cuba.
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or his relatives in Miami.
Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
as part of the My Cultura podcast network,
available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story
from being in and out of prison from the age of 13
to being one of today's biggest artists.
We talk about guilt, shame, body image
and huge life transformations.
I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened,
I immediately started with everything but me.
It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
It's time for I Don't Think So, Honey.
We're making this a quick hour today.
We have some interesting episodes and guests coming up.
Let's just leave it at that.
Let's just say the form is going to be a little broken here and there.
And, you know, Beau, you're coming to town to do one of these.
Maybe we should do after we've listened to the album.
Maybe we should discuss the album live
so we can have an episode
that is like a Tortured Poets Department episode
and then potentially try to get someone else
from LA to hop on.
Love that.
Love that idea.
And then we got to do our iconic 400 at some point.
Yes, we continue to miss it.
We have blown past 400
so, so long ago.
This is, I don't think so, honey.
This is where we take one minute
to rail against something in culture.
Matt, do you have something?
I have something.
Okay, I'm very glad that we are both locked and loaded.
This is Matt Rodgers.
I don't think so, honey.
This time starts now.
I don't think so, honey,
that T-Pain was put in the Heineken house,
which had an exclusive cap on it
because it's a little house.
Put T-Pain on a major stage.
Yes!
Dave and I wanted to be throwing ass at T-Pain.
We were so excited.
And then we went over.
We actually, he started playing at the same time
during Bleacher's set.
We were so mesmerized.
We could not pull ourselves away.
So then we arrive late to T-Pain,
which looked like the party.
And I don't think so, honey, that it was
in the Heineken house,
which is probably a lovely house, I'm sure
full of laughter and Heineken
and enjoyment.
Because everyone came out beaming ear to ear
shaking their ass after what
T-Pain had done to them. But I don't think so,
honey, that not everyone
could see it. Put T-Pain on the outdoor them, but I don't think so, honey, that not everyone could see it.
Put T-Pain on the outdoor stage.
Wanna buy you a drink?
That's where my voice is at.
And it would have been even worse
had I seen T-Pain,
but I don't think so, honey.
We'll never know.
That's one minute.
Can we just say,
first of all, I'm so sorry
you could not get into the Heineken house.
I would have loved to see T-Pain.
T-Pain is someone who
has committed himself
to spreading joy.
Thank you so much for that.
I'm deadass.
Buy You a Drink, and I'm about
to be deadass even more. Buy You a
Drink was one of the pieces of culture that made
me say culture is for me. There was something
about that song going number one and being the song of
the summer,
2006,
seven,
I want to say.
Yup.
Where I was like,
I am tapped into the culture here.
I'm loving this as much as everyone else is.
I'm going to dance to this at the Chinese school Sunday with the Chinese
school Sunday crowd.
I'm going to shake my ass to this at homecoming. I'm going to shake my ass to this at homecoming.
I'm going to shake my ass to this with the straight kids,
the gay kids, everyone in between.
And ongoing forever.
Because guess what?
In the year of our Lord 2024,
that Heineken house was packed.
It surprises me, not at all,
that that was the place to be at Coachella.
I mean, unfortunately,
it was at the same time as Bleachers,
which was the simultaneous place to be.
And so...
We love Bleachers.
T-Pain, though? T-Pain
is something very,
very special.
Oh, yeah. And I don't
mean this with an ounce of irony.
I love T-Pain.
Oh, I'm...
You're in tears.
You're in tears.
Bowen is actually about to cry.
It's like I'm talking about Conan all over again.
T-Pain and Conan do share that, though.
Like, smart people who want to spread joy.
I'm serious.
100%.
No, listen.
If I could have snuck into the Heineken house,
I would have.
Heineken is getting a lot of play on the episode,
so I should also say thank you, Absolute.
You were an amazing partner to go with.
Absolute, you have a deep love from Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Thank you for everything you've done for us
and for the world and for the drinking community.
Absolute vodka.
Bowen Yang, you have your item. Thanks, honey. Ready, locked and loaded and ready to go? and for the drinking community. Absolute vodka. Bowen Yang,
you have your I Don't Think So Honey locked and loaded and ready to go?
Yes.
Okay, period.
This is Bowen Yang's
I Don't Think So Honey
as time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey,
me being mentioned
in all the Dr. Dillamond news
that has just been announced
at CinemaCon
that the great, inimitable
Peter Dinklage
will be joining us
as our Dillamond.
I had to sit on that news for a while.
And the best I could do was go on Watch What Happens Live and say,
so far, Dillamond is an amazing puppeteer named Louisa
who was incredible on set and was on little crutches,
getting into goat position, goat posture,
going into the goat lilt
and the goat timbre
and doing Dillaman's lines
and being a fucking pro at it.
I could not reveal
that I was Peter Dinklage.
Maybe we were still casting
for the part.
I say we as if I was involved
in that process.
15 seconds.
Also, I don't think so, honey.
Andy Cohen,
what is your deal
with Dr. Dillaman anyway?
Why do you hate Dillaman so much?
Because he's a goat? Feels kind of weird to me. What's your deal with Dr. Dillaman anyway? Why do you hate Dillaman so much? Because he's a goat? Feels kind of
weird to me. What's your deal with goats?
Goats are nothing but gorgeous,
peaceful creatures that might be
loud every now and then, but are ultimately very important
to the agricultural world.
And that's one minute. One thing I know about
Andy Cohen is he's a speciesist.
Yeah, that tracks.
He's a speciesist. He's a huge
speciesist. He thinks a huge speciesist.
He thinks that humans are just better.
We all know that is not true.
Shaking my head at that one. Could it be me?
SMDH at that one.
SMDH.
I'm looking forward to Peter Dinklage's performance.
Did you always know?
No.
It was truly just Louisa.
I think Peter will be an absolute joy to listen to as the goat.
I don't know.
Like, God, I never want to do an interview ever again or be asked about anything because all I said was we had a puppeteer.
She was amazing.
Then people ran that story and said it's going to be played by a woman.
Not true. Oh, oh, oh. And then people ran with that story
and the fucking queer scuttlebutt
from that point on was
it's going to be Idina?
Why would it make any sense
for Idina to play Dillamant?
No, you guys are,
that's the queer scuttlebutt gone awry.
The queer scuttlebutt went awry on that one.
And it often does.
And I want to say, I'm not commenting on anything, but if there was any queer scuttlebutt went awry on that one. And it often does. And I want to say,
I'm not commenting on anything,
but if there was any queer scuttlebutt news
about me, none of that was true.
Oh, let's just
address that queer scuttlebutt from me
right now. Here's what I'll say.
Okay. Some of these people
out there who are acting
up better stop.
That's it. There you go.
And we're not talking to you,
the Lana gays. We just want to reinforce
that we want to be with
you. We love you. We respect
you. We acknowledge your
hard yards, your years of
dedication. We
are but
neophytes.
We are but neophytes.
Well, this was the queer scuttlebutt
as of this week on Talking Biden.
And it's important that us queer voices
really raise up at this time.
Yeah.
And disclaimer, we are not talking Biden.
That is just a fun pseudo era
that we're in right now that is not real.
Yeah, that's not real.
I think the podcast will stay Las Culturistas for years to come.
And that is something that I'm galvanized about as we head towards,
I don't even know what it is, our 410th, 11th, 12th episode.
We could be at 466.
We truly stopped counting.
Our producers and us individually and
you know head of content Hans we literally
all have a different number what we think
it is that's an interesting phenomenon
that's happening so it's sort of
becoming a thing of
the 400th episode will sort of just
drop one day and it will be beautiful
and it will be plentiful
yes I mean
not since
the Bible
has there been so many differing
accounts and points of view
of the same story.
And the story is 400th episode.
One person's
Matthew, one person's John, one person's
Luke.
I don't know what the... And they never could get it
together. No. Those disciples, they never could get it together.
It's actually rule of culture number eight.
Those disciples, they never could get it together.
We end
every episode with a song.
It's you.
It's you.
It's all for you.
You can sort of sing it like Gaga and it works.
Everything I do
I tell you all the time
heaven is a place on earth with you
it's sort of giving a million reasons
we need to talk about the Joker 2 trailer
next time
oh my god that was good
bye Oh, my God. That was good. Bye. Bye.
On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives
in Miami. Imagine that your mother
died
trying to get you to freedom. Listen to
Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez
story on the iHeartRadio
app, Apple Podcasts, or
wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Julian Edelman.
I'm Rob Gronkowski.
And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes.
We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football.
Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars.
We're finally answering the age-old question,
what kind of dudes are these dudes?
We're going to find out, Jules.
New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13
to being one of today's biggest artists.
I was a desperate delusional dreamer.
Be a delusional dreamer.
Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.