Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Red Dwarf” (w/ Dulcé Sloan)

Episode Date: August 1, 2018

Tok Tok, Las Culturistas calling!That’s the rough FRENCH translation of Ding-Dong that we’re using because today’s episode was recorded live at the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal! And the guest (oh this guest!) is quite the guest! She is a Sci-Fi Queen, Wizardress, Sorceress, Drag Race Superfan — it’s the incomparable Dulcé Sloan. On this episode, Bowen recounts his Canadian childhood, Matt tries out a new French catch phrase, the Devil steals Dulcé’s voice, the evils of lemons are exposed, the group agrees that Aslan from The Lion The Witch & The Wardrobe is just too big, Dulcé masterfully summarizes the pilot of Red Dwarf and spills the tee on meeting RuPaul. Plus, Dulcé delivers an unprecedented and iconic I Don’t Think So, Honey!—LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Forever! Dog! Look, Matt! Where? Oh, I see! Wow! Bowen, look over there! Wow, is that culture? Yes! Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture?

Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling. Or should we say bonjour ding dong? Bonjour ding dong. Which is, of course, the French way to say it.

Well, yeah, I guess I was going to say it's toc toc, but that's knock knock. Toc toc. Which is different than ding dong. Well, it's often, you know, when songs get translated from other languages, you don't get the exact words. Talk, talk, which is different than ding dong. Well, it's often, you know, in when songs get translated from other languages, you don't get the exact words. Sure. Sure. So I'm sure that if we were to go up to France or up to Montreal again,

we might even think to begin the podcast. Talk, talk, talk, talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. And that could be the way we do it. Absolutely. So it's just Matt and I in the studio for now, but we're about to go into our live episode that we recorded at Dress for Laughs just this past weekend in July.

Which is the reason for all the French shit. For all the French shit, of course. Yes, that's the reason. So we just, we had a great time there. We performed a divas version of I Don't Think So, Honey. It was truly phenomenal. We opened with That's The Way It Is by Celine Dion. We closed with It's All Coming Back is by celine dion we closed

with it's all coming back to me now by that by celine dion yes yes lots of really really fun stuff in that show truly and so uh we had booked dulce to do our podcast episode just to have a normal interview podcast right one of the regular interviews uh podcast episodes but uh this thing went down at the festival matt do you want to just preface it a little bit? Yes. Okay. So Dulce, along with Jaboukie Young-White, Joel Kim Booster, Amanda Seals, so many amazing people. Julio Torres.

Julio Torres, Taylor Tomlinson, lots and lots of amazing people were all named as Variety Comics to Watch. They picked 10 people that are going to be rising comics to watch. And a little bit of drama went down when they all got together in the panel that was preceding the performance. Yes. I guess they chose this one guy who you may have heard about now. His name is Darren Knight. He goes by a largely performance as a character called Southern Mama,

which is like pseudonym character southern mama and he's very uh popular on youtube yes we hear and he has a very uh let's say just red state fan base yeah i would say and you know speculation as to why he was even chosen for this apparently they always try to you know hit their demos and also like involve social media quote-unquote comedians because in today's age you know you can't just ignore the fact that they have tons of fans and you know you do have to acknowledge the fact that a lot of content is being consumed online and that means it's solely being created online sure so i guess that was the uh point of view on involving someone like this in the festival

however it turned out that he not only cannot perform live no uh but he is also has some uh ideals and beliefs that really don't belong on the stage at all and don't deserve a platform no uh so basically what happened at the panel just for context just because this will just inform everything that uh eventually gets talked about in the podcast um he uh his manager enters the backstage area of the panel starts sort of accosting and interrogating some of the other people like dual say uh about their social media followings dual says like uh that doesn't really matter to me i'm on tv i'm fine manager walks out darren southern mama comes back in says what the fuck was that well no disrespect i mean this is also this is loose quotes you guys i mean we weren't there we heard from secondhand sources but there was an altercation

before the panel that was just like totally unnecessary that just carried over into the actual panel when uh southern mama said something to the effect of race has no place in comedy there should no there should be no commentary of that sort in comedic performance yeah a panel with almost all poc comedians and queer comedians uh including julio and jabuki and joel so they sort of all openly said rebuked that uh and then that night was the actual showcase where they all did stand-up sets. And Matt and I got to go. And everyone crushed. Crushed.

Killed it. I mean, they all had such amazing sets. It was such an exciting night up until. Up until. It was so exciting to watch this guy fucking eat shit. Well, yeah. And so basically with all the drama that surrounded the panel, Southern Mama was sort of sequestered in his

own green room to not have any sort of interfacing interactions with the rest of the comics yeah uh and then uh he had the he was given the option to not perform according to uh our sources joel um he was given the option the youtubers have the option to not perform at the showcase live and yet darren knight still opted into performing so everyone crushes joel finishes his set does amazing and then darren knight comes on chris red's hosting this whole thing chris red brings darren knight on darren knight just spends the first five minutes just apologizing saying i'm so nervous does not remember the name of the festival he says thank you thanks y'all so much to thanks so much to laughs it was like laughs and people

are like just for laughs and then I'm thinking to myself I don't know what you thought but maybe this is some sort of a Kaufman ask thing comedy whatever bullshit like you know like some sort of like roundabout way of getting to a joke or some comedy element in the but then

it kind of just became clear like we're sitting we're sitting in the room in this room with one of the masters brett davis the kaufman-esque masters of this kind of but this was this was not what was happening it was not that um so basically uh he eventually does like i guess five or so minutes of does anyone ever have to shit humor and it was i guess you know maybe funny for some people in the middle of the country i'm not going to sit here and attack the the comedic taste of people who like bad shit i love shit humor right but you know what it was it was awful it was awful there was no it was just a stream of consciousness just nonsense it was terrible and then so so then he bombs the

whole time and then he ends his set by saying i just want to thank you all so much for having me. By the way, I want to say that race and sexuality have no place in comedy. People aren't paying to see that shit. At which point everyone in the audience, especially in our area, started booing him. And I've never booed someone off the stage before.

I've never felt the instinct to have to encourage someone off the stage like it was just like it was so egregious like it was such a display blatantly of racism and what i've been saying too is like god fucking damn it like this year like all yeah of all years like of course like we'd send up our best you know what i mean quote unquote and then that's going to be it just takes the conversation away from all the amazing comics who crushed and who then received him when he came off stage and then i guess we'll kind of let dulce get into that yeah but she does

discuss it in her i don't think so honey later and it was truly an i don't think so honey moment it was an unprecedented i don't think so honey clocking in at four minutes and 20 seconds just by coincidence yeah but we let her go because you know we didn't want to push for the tea about this because she probably had been asked so many questions i mean it was a huge deal we we got her interview she came on the day of this all blowing up like the morning after so she had just been hounded by everybody um amanda seals posted it to her instagram story her following sort of jumped all over it so she was a little you know we weren't sure whether or not to like we weren't sure how to gauge that so we just didn't really bring that up until she did at the very end and i don't think so

anybody we have a great conversation we have an awesome conversation with her um it's very true nerd queen oh she's a sci-fi sci-fi queen wizard dress sorceress comma dress there you go and i am very excited to share this episode she's delightful we get into drag race she's a big drag race super fan yes but we wanted to make sure that you guys knew the tea on this whole southern mama situation because we were there and um you know it gets addressed later on in the episode kind of like familiarly because i think everyone in the audience was very aware of the situation yes but it kind of blew up on social media so you may be aware of it you may not but that's what happened that's what went down but we are so so so happy with this episode we hope you enjoyed as much as we uh did uh and if you came out to see it while you were in uh montreal or all our friends up

there in montreal thank you for coming. Thanks for enjoying the live show. Alright, bye. Ding dong! Las Culturistas calling! Because we have to do it because it's being recorded for the pod. Yeah, for posterity. So this is fun.

Many people will listen to this, but in this moment, we're all just into it here. How are we all doing tonight? Alright? We're good? Feeling good? This afternoon? Great. many people will listen to this, but in this moment, we're all dressed. Right. Exactly. How are we all doing tonight? All right. We're good. This afternoon. Great.

I want to give some insights of behind the scenes tea. Usually what happens is Bowen will sit down. He'll look me dead in the eyes and he'll say three, two, one. So it's usually not that chaotic. Usually it's very clean.

Okay. Can I, these shirts, I very happy. Wonderful. This is a good, this is... These shirts. I'm very happy. Wonderful. This is a good... This is a gay shirt, too. It's in the same neighborhood. Yeah. This is

like a... God, pansexual architect. I love that! That's you, in a way. How would you break this down, besides just gay? Because I want to be more dynamic than that. Even if I'm not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like gay guy on an acid trip closing his eyes and that's what he sees. And then he was like, I'll print that on a shirt. And there it is. I love it. Okay, anyway, we're so happy to be here in Montreal. How is everybody? I've already asked.

Great. It's so cool. We've been enjoying our time. We have. It's weird for me because I grew up here. It's weird. It's true. I grew up in Brossard. I did. And then I grew up in Brossard. I spent one year in Longueuil.

And then I took the... We would always take the Pont Champlain into Centreville. And I would take in all of the racism and it was so beautiful.

It was so nice. We had a lot of that on Long Island too. Oh, the racism. I can't do the French accent, you guys. I think you can. Okay, so I've been like dropping little bits of French here and there while we've been here and then Matt will just, in an effort of

one-upsmanship, I think. No, it's not. It's want to be participant. Okay, so then Matt will say... Matt, go. What am I saying? Okay, so you say a French word, and I'll repeat. Ah, la piscine. Ah, la piscine. That was good. That was good, but then Matt will...

What I was trying to get you to do is Matt's been trying this out, this new catchphrase, his French catchphrase, he says, Je suis la jeune fille. Je suis la jeune fille, which means I am the little girl, I guess. Alright, does anyone remember the commercial? Yes?

Thank you! It's the commercial with the little girl. Was it like a Hooked on Phonics type situation? Muffy. Muffy. It was like a Hooked on Phonics type situation. Muffy. Muffy. It was a series of tapes or audio tapes with, I think, kids that had difficulties in the classroom. Yeah.

Because not everyone just soars through. Like this audience looks like a very smart elementary school. Gifted and talented audience. Gifted and talented audience. Absolutely. But some kids, they need a little bit more help. And this was for language learning. And this young girl stepped forward and said,

Just fill out some fee. And then the icon, who was that woman, who only the two of us know. But she said, Yes, that's French she's speaking. And this commercial played for 15 years all the time. Amazing. I'm like Nickelodeon, right? Yeah, these kids are American. Theseon, right? These kids are American.

These kids are American. They would never play this year, so I missed that growing up here. I love it here, though. I love it here, too. We're not going to stay, but we do like it. Growing up was tough with French-Canadian people,

but they were ultimately very nice. I think French-Canadians are like white trash chic. That's the vibe. It's so nice. They're a little cold. I will say we just went out. They're pretty.

They're gorgeous and cold. Gorgeous cold people. We just were outside because we're going to do a show later. We're going to do a variant on our I Don't Think So Honey live shows. Which is... It's going to be called I Don't Think So Honey Divas Edition. We're opening the show

with a Celine Dion song. We're going to sing, That's the way it is. That will be the way it is. Except probably a step lower because I always start things a little too high. We rehearsed at 2.30 and it became this impromptu concert and a lot of people stayed and like really watched and then we sang and saw climb back to me now yeah but we kept i have i kept telling them telling them like

this is just a rehearsal this is not supposed to be inherently funny right like there's the comedy is it's flanking the actual comedy which is fine because they did not think it was funny anyway yeah they stood there and really just kind of and we were we said do you think they he was like do you think they enjoyed it and i was like i think they were french canadian yeah i think they were just like um just hanging out just hanging out the festival's been fun um just for a little glimpse into like what it's like as performers um you just have the same conversation with a million different people. Yeah, industry people, it's a lot of the same conversations.

It all blends together. It's like, True TV, APA, WMV, but shh, what did you get in? Oh, it's Saturday,

today, tomorrow, Amanda, Amanda, do you mean Amanda? Do you mean Amanda? Oh, it's Amanda. You know Amanda, right?

We've met, we've met, we talked seven years ago, you, right? We've met. We've met. We talked seven years ago. You should remember me. Seven years ago we met. New York. New York. New York.

New York. Where are you based? Tomorrow. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. None of them are here. How was your flight?

What is... I don't know. Okay, what is... How was your flight? Like, what are they... What is the... We made it. What's the core of that question?

I think they want to know. I think when people ask, how was your flight? They want to know if you experienced turbulence on the flight. That's what I think they're asking. However, my problems with the flight are never turbulence. Like, I always think. I know what your deal is. What is that?

Well, actually, wait. Maybe it's going to be my I don't think so honey in just 40 minutes. Great, great. But, oh, wait. You have this funny flight story of this woman who... Oh, okay, yes. There was a woman

on a flight that I was on and she barked throughout the flight. Like a dog, how they bark. This is how the woman barked. Like, and I thought that was funny

and this woman was like, you know she probably had something wrong with her. And I was like, yeah, but it's still funny that a woman was barking on a plane. Like, I'm sorry,

I'm always gonna laugh at a woman barking on a flight like it could be a disease I do think it's funny it makes me problematic in this age that's just gonna be the hill I die on women barking on Seattle bound flights from New York throughout the flight is funny to me because she

was doing like little like the point where everyone was turning around like, no, bitch, shut up. Stop barking. She was just like... I think she said it was a sneeze. I was like, what are you...

No. I think she wanted to be barking. That's cute. She was that bitch who was barking on the flight. Yeah, there's always that bitch. I wish I had a story like that of a flight that I who was barking on the flight. Yeah, there's always that bitch. I mean, like, that's what I, I wish I had a story like that of a flight that I could just tell people when they ask me,

how was your flight? And I'll say, there was a woman who was barking. Anyway. It was like the narrative of the flight. And it was a shared experience for everyone. Love that. Yeah, I love that. Anyway, I think it's time that we get this show going.

We're going to get this show going. And for that, we're going to sit. Oh, wow. Can you believe we stood the whole time? We're going to stand back up to welcome our guests. That's okay. In just seconds, we'll stand up again. Okay, I'm very excited.

I'm very excited she's here. She has so many, so many great credits. As we say on the show, the credits come rolling down. They come rolling down. You've seen her on Comedy Knockout. You've seen her on At Midnight. She's a correspondent on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Currently here as one of Variety's comics to watch.

And we are watching and we are enjoying. And we will continue to watch. And please welcome to the stage Dulce Sloan. Dulce. Bring the tea. Oh, bring the tea. And she has tea. Bring the tea. Bring the tea. Bring the tea. Oh, bring the tea. Bring the tea. Bring the tea. Yes, yes, yes.

Hello. We're spilling. Always bringing tea. Kimono on. Hair lifted. Let's go. Here we go. Hair lifted. Talk about the tea because we helped you assemble this backstage. Yes. Due to the devil

trying to defeat me i arrived in this beautiful country and my voice left so this is better than past years at least i can actually speak um and commiserate and you know communicate with the humans but we were backstage i was like oh somebody's like oh let's make some tea for you and I was like, oh, someone's like, oh, let's make some tea for you. And I was like, oh, girl, just a little hot water, a little honey, and just to see a white woman move so fast. Erin Gibson of Throwing Shade. Thank you. Erin Gibson of Throwing Shade helps.

Offered to make tea. I was like, girl, you're talented. For someone she's never met in my time of need, it was truly beautiful. It's truly beautiful. In today's times. You were telling us that you were at a restaurant the other night and

instead of honey, they had a glucose spread. Okay, so I have been fighting this for the past couple of years. If you ever get hoarse, you're losing your voice not because of sickness, but because of fatigue. Never use lemon.

Because it dries your vocal cords out. It makes it worse. Oh, shit. You need the honey because the honey keeps the moisture on your vocal cords. So, yeah, if you're using lemon, you're like, what's going on? You're just fucking yourself up. Where did you learn this? I learned this last year when I had to sing on the comedy jam and my voice was fucked up and my manager

called a vocal teacher and she was the voice of Belle in Beauty and the Beast. Oh, come on. Wait, what's her name? What's her name again? I don't know. I don't ever know anybody's name. Gaze? No, useless.

So, I mean, that's a deep... Come on, Gaze, get your life together. You look very cute. Gaze looks so cute. So cute. So, I mean, that's a deep... Come on, gays. Get your lives together. You look very cute. Gays look so cute. So cute. So cute. But I was like, okay, I'm definitely going to listen to what she says. Yeah.

And she said no lemon? She said never lemon. And then you just said something that I think is... And she said ibuprofen, too. Any anti-inflammatory. Because what your body is doing is it's... Like, all the muscles around it are inflaminging So you don't fuck your vocal cords completely So your body's like alright let me just get fat for a little bit And

Your voice gets nice and fat I do want to go back and just I want you to say again lemons Take a lemon you're fucking yourself over Yes Great okay rule number 27 of culture You take a lemon you're fucking yourself over You know Mariah Carey says

you're supposed to have hot tea with honey and lemon. And I guess she's wrong, and I guess that's the reason why. Now we know, Mariah. But it might be if it's not... It depends on what

symptom she's working with. Crazy. I'm not Mariah Carey crazy, because I've never been that rich, but praise God. It depends on what she, what symptoms she's working with. Crazy. Crazy. I've been crazy. I'm not Mariah Carey crazy because I've never been that rich, but praise God. Comment. Sunday soon. But yeah, so we're in the restaurant yesterday and I was like, oh, they kept giving us, I ordered, like we ordered hot, we ordered tea and I was like, can I have some honey?

They brought us honey and we ordered onion rings and they also brought us honey. I was like, what? Why the fuck I need honey with onion rings? He's like, this is how we serve them. I was like, alright, let's see what happens. And we ate it, and I was like, you right, Kevin. You absolutely accurate in this.

But, I was like, oh, let's see what's in this honey. I was like, wait a minute. And it said honey and glucose spread. Oh. What is that? Glucose spread? What is that? Glucose is sugar. That's a sugar spread. Anything that ends in coast is a sugar.

Sucrose, sucralose, glucose, it's all a sugar. That's rule of science number three. Anything that ends in coast is a sugar. I be reading and shit. Food labels. I be reading food labels. And I watch a lot of PBS.

Okay, so you would say, what is it, to be right-brained, is that like when you know a lot of science shit? That's left brain, I believe. Left brain? Culture East has backed me up. I see some knots. That's all I need.

But I'm really like... Right? Damn it. But I'm like real creative and stuff. Yeah, okay. There we go. So like, maybe I'm like middle brain. Middle brain.

Middle brain. Maybe left, right, left brain. Nice. I don't know. I... You're a scientist. No, but here's the thing. I didn't care for the brain in the past,

but I tripped on acid a couple weeks ago, and now this is all I can think about. Well, like, my brain, because apparently... You can only think about your brain? No, well, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, with acid, all your lobes are talking to each other. Oh, shit.

Like, new connections are forming in ways that haven't formed before. This is real. This is science. It's not like white people science. It's not like white people science. Although, yeah. Were you with a bunch of white gays on the beach? It was like three white gays, one Asian gay,

one Jewish gay. Still white still white and fine it was all white gays but it was there was one other asian gay it was joel kim booster he's right there matt's biracial oh yeah not this matt not this matt there was another matt there he was biracial but still what is he half Half black, half Jewish? Yeah. Ooh. That's so much that nice. That's a lot of sorrow. That's a lot of sorrow. That's a lot of oppression. That's a lot of sorrow, yeah. Yeah.

That's a lot of sorrow. Have you ever dabbled in acid or hallucinogenic? Is that what that is? No, I'm a Christian too. Oh, shit. I am black, so they don't let us do any of that. Dang, yeah. No, that we are not let us do any of that. That, yeah. No, that we are not allowed to do any of those things.

It's like weed, because weed makes sense. Like, oh, it's a plant. I smoke that. Crack, because it came from a plant. Right. And you mix it with baking soda. We know what that is. Makes sense.

So you can smoke that. Yep. The acid, we We know what that is. Makes sense. So you can smoke that. Yep. The acid, we all know where that comes from. Well, the acid was in Oreos. What? Does that make sense? You don't get the acid from Oreos. I know, I know.

But they dropped it into an Oreo cookie and then we just put it in our mouths. I know somebody who sells, mind you, this man's in his 40s, sells Tootsie Rolls that have been dipped in shrooms. No. So it's infused with the shroom and then when you eat the Tootsie Roll, you're like, ooh, Tootsie Roll. Wow.

I don't know about shrooms. Is there a difference between shrooms and acid? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes Okay Yes Okay Acid is, acid is I have one drug, it's marijuana

Each day Each day Each day I don't smoke weed You don't smoke weed? I don't like how I feel Well, you have vocal issues Facts

But I smoke cigarettes, which is probably the reason So we'll say Listen, I'm also overweight. What do you want from me? I bumped a cigarette off Zulce last night. I did tell you I smoke way less than I used to, and I'm like trying to quit because they cost too much in New

York. That's true. What's the cycle? I was talking to someone last night where it's like, I'm gonna quit, so I might as well buy my last pack. It's that fucking, it's so fucked up'm going to quit so I might as well buy my last pack. It's so fucked up. It makes no sense. I don't give myself the lie of the last pack. I don't feel like smoking today.

Sometimes I don't smoke all day because I just don't want a cigarette. And then other days I'm like, and then I'm on my chimney. So it just depends on, because usually I can go all day without smoking and then i'll eat something i'm gonna need a cigarette but sometimes i'm so busy at work they don't have time to go

outside and smoke so i smoke less but i've just been so busy just because before i like the night before i came here i only had like three hours of sleep and then i've been been just real busy at work. So my voice was already tired. And then I flew and didn't get any sleep. And then was stressed out about all the shows that I had to do. And just like, I got to pack this. I got to make sure I got the paperwork. Make sure they'll let me in fucking Canada. They didn't look at the paperwork for me.

They didn't even look at our paperwork. And he went to the trouble of going to the FedEx and printing out the papers. Oh no. Yeah, they didn't look at it. Anyway. Now mind you, they don't stamp your passport anymore unless you ask them very nicely. They didn't stamp ours either. I didn't get any of the experience. I gave the man the

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want to miss this one. I went to the other man and I was like, can I have a passport stamp please? He's like, oh you want on this page? Which one page do you want? I tell you. Alright, there's nice. The other one's like, okay. Like they don't give a shit. Winnipeg, Canada,ada never go fuck that place up burns down fuck what's bad about winnipeg burn it down talk about burn it down talk about that whole ass motherfucker that worked in that

airport you bitch made man listen i get there i have my earbud in i'm on a conference call i'm trying to get off this call i'm like here take this paperwork this bitch motherfucker decides it's bright said thing i'm like i don't know what these codes mean on these damn piece of paper i don't work for the government okay so i get through and the lady's like i'm usually supposed to walk in and hand people the paper and he'd go through the door he was like oh no you go that way i said whoa what immigration why am i going to immigration i'm an american the fuck you talking about so the dude made me sit in there then i wasn't getting helped because they were terrorizing

this dirty family and this black lady and when i say dirty family i mean father mother two children just dirty Father, mother, two children. Just dirty. And it's like bohemian dirty. Dirty on purpose. So like all their clothes were too loose. Yep. And too colorful. And they're saying like, oh, we all found my ass.

I'm like, nah, y'all niggas in a cult. So they look like cult people. You know what I mean? Yeah, you know the type. We're not going to send our kids to school or all this other shit. You're like, send them kids to school. They're going to be real fucking weird. They're going to get married to each other.

Calm down. So what happened with this person? So this motherfucker is trying to flex even harder when I haven't gotten helped yet. So I sent him my paperwork. He's like, need he's like oh you have any felonies i said i'm a christian because that's always my response and he's fucking with me looking at my paperwork fuck with me fuck with me and so he's like oh everything came back fine i'm like i know that because i told you i'm not a criminal and then he was like

okay this is fine and he was like oh and like maybe like next time when you come to the window you know you probably shouldn't be on the phone i said oh that's the problem that's that that i was on the phone yeah yeah oh you felt disrespected stamp my passport so i can get up out of here he was taking it as a case and I saw him go Like he almost dropped it And he's like oh that wasn't a problem I said yes it was So I remembered his name and I had a show that night And all I was like

I can't remember his name because I block out traumatic things And I was on the show Talking about this awful ass Customs agent And a dude in the audience came up to me And was like oh yeah I work with him He is an asshole He does that to people all the fucking time as a power trip wow wow i was like look at god look at god so we can't burn down winnipeg because there was that one good soul

there yeah i guess it was the gatekeeper it's the midg. It's the Midwest. When you come to Montreal, you feel like you're in another country. Yeah. At home. When you go to Winnipeg, you feel like you're in St. Louis. Everyone should go to, everyone should do a fun little Prince Edward Island,

Nova Scotia trip, like a New Brunswick trip. Like very Anne of Green Gables. Anne of Green Gables. You go to the Anne of Green Gables house. It's so nice. I hated them. I hated them.

But it's cute. I never read the book. It Gables house. I hate them. But it's cute. It stayed on PBS. Fucking Wonderworks and that damn girl. You know what the fuck I'm talking about. Because all they showed was Anne of Green Gables and fucking Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe. Y'all got two shows that have been on since 1984. What the fuck are you talking about?

Oh my God. Oh, snitching ass little boy with his Turkish delight. Fuck that movie too. The Turkish delight. You know movie too. The Turkish delight. Tilda Smith and giving him a Turkish delight. You know,

when I tried Turkish delights like years later, I was like, oh, this is going to be good. It was a very popular treat amongst those kids.

And then what happened? And then I tried it and it was fucking bad. Dude. Turkish delights suck. My mama bought some and she was like, girl,

we got this Turkish delight. You know, the little boy from the movie. Like the little boy from the movie. We got a little Turkish delight like the little boy from the movie. He couldn't resist them. I was like, girl, we got this Turkish Delight. You know the little boy from the movie? Like the little boy from the movie. We got a little Turkish Delight, like a little boy from the movie. He couldn't resist them. I was like, yes, mama, Turkish Delight, girl, we got it from the movie.

So she got a bunch, like she got like an assorted flavor box, right? And so we looking at the wrapper and we're like, lavender. What? Rose. Lemon. Okay, we know lemon. We know lemon we know lemon we know citrus right pistachio no this is gelatin how'd you do this so it's like rose and lavender flavored gelatin cover like coated in nasty powdered sugar yeah and i don't know how you fuck up powdered sugar because it's sugar but and we were like they're like girl let's try this let's try this

we both take a bite we're like why and so and i was like okay we're americans we don't eat florals right like anytime somebody cares give me lavender or anything i'm like i'm not eating a glade plug-in i'm not doing this with you no so we're like well let's try the lemon she's like this still wrong too how you mess lemon up it's the most basic flavor everybody knows what a lemon tastes like i can't tell you what roses taste like i'm not a bird no i'm not a bird lemon is up there with cherry and grape as far as popular flavors go.

And we all know grape don't taste like grapes. It tastes like purple. It doesn't. We all know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does taste like purple. It tastes like purple. So we were very upset. I mean, lying the witch in the wardrobe. And they made him the prince. That one who liked the Turkish delight. The little snitching ass boy.

Was he the one in the silver chair or something? I don't know. I didn't even know there was more books than the one Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, but there's a whole bunch of books. There's a bunch. My mama literally said, I got the candy that the snitching-ass boy was eating from the Lion,

the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Did you see the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe movie? I did. Because she wanted to go. And I was like, okay. And I remember the Lion, the Witch, and the Worm movie? I did. The new one. Because she wanted to go. And I was like, okay. And I remember watching it and her going, that lion is too big.

That lion is too big. I was like, mama, she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know how big a lion is. This lion is dinosaur big. But he's supposed to represent God.

He's God. Yeah, he was God. That's why mama wanted to go because you know we saved St. Defyfield with the Holy Ghost. So we were like, oh, we got to go see this movie. We got to go see this movie. We got to see this movie. And then she was like, she liked the movie. But at the same time, when that little boy flipped on his siblings, me and my mom both went, oh, bitch ass little boy.

Yeah. And you knew it was coming. Knew it was coming. I was like, because they coming i was like because they're like oh they're trying to confront him me and my mom only ones in the movie they're going whoop his ass yeah they took him back it was ridiculous i would be glad they weren't black siblings because we don't want to say there you go okay it sounds like we're talking about culture that you grew up with dulce we're gonna ask you we ask all of our guests every episode What was the culture that made you say Culture is for me

What was my favorite thing to watch growing up Okay One of my two favorite shows growing up Was one it was this British British sci-fi show Called Red Dwarf Red Dwarf I'm so glad I'm in Canada because no one in the United States

Knows what the fuck I'm talking about I okay it is absolutely it's so it's very hard to describe to people because people think you're crazy try me like try us basically okay so and y'all have to help me if i fuck this up but it was my favorite because it came on from like 1987 until, they just did it 11, they're doing a 12th season I think like right now. Wow. So 12th? Yeah. It's a British show so their seasons only have like maybe 4, 6, maybe 8 episodes. Shit.

So, the show is set. So there's this bummy ass dude, David Lister. He gets put in stasis because he won't get rid of his cat and you're crazy you're crazy i already think you're crazy he's a bummy ass dude all he eats his curries and drinks beer all day he's all he does he's a and he's a he's a mixed race dude so the main character of the show is a mixed race guy and so he won't get rid of his cat

and so they're like listen you got this cat it's not healthy it's not quarantined you can't keep it you found out the cat's pregnant oh he hides the cat in the wall and there's this guy he works with called david remmer i mean um not david renner arnold renner so lister and arnold remmer remmers a complete out you know the dude at like a job who wants to be better than what he is. Yeah. But doesn't have the skill or the ability to do it. Sure. Yeah.

So it's this asshole dude. And they're the lowest rank on this, they're on a spaceship. Uh-huh. It's a mining ship. I told you. I said it was a sci-fi show. Oh, okay. Spaceship.

Now the spaceship makes sense. Right. So they're in this, they're on a mining ship called Red Dwarf. And they, so he works together, they're in this mining ship called Red Dwarf and they so he works together to make their repairman on the ship. So remember Lister gets in trouble because he won't get rid of his cat and they're like, he's like give me

because he gets called to the captain's office. He's like give me the cat. He's like what are you going to do with him? He's like I'm going to cut him up and experiment on it and see if there are any diseases he's like okay but can you put it back together and give it to me and he's like no the cat will be dead it's not that sci-fi right and he's like then i'm not giving you my cat yeah this is a good conversation you can't have my right? And so this is like the pilot episode.

And citing all the drama for the whole series. Right. And so he's like, fuck that. And so they're like, okay, if you don't, for the punishment, basically, the jail that they have is they put you into stasis. So they freeze time for you. Oh. So you don't get paid for anything

because you're frozen in fucking time. Right. So they're like, you're going to forfeit 18 months wages if you don't get paid for anything because you're frozen in front right so like you're gonna afford you're gonna forfeit 18 months wages if you don't because he violated the quarantine he's like this cat could bring any type of disease on here and won't be sick as fuck he's like yeah cool but you know no and the cat's name is frankenstein so are we given like are we given like a reason to really love the cat like is it a smart cat does the card have a personality it's just a pregnant cat and it's his it's his pet he's like he doesn't have anything like pregnancy is a character trait right so he's like this is

this is my television he's like i smuggled his pet on here like this is this is my this is my cat and so they he hides the cat like basically like in the wall in his room. And they put him in a stasis. Because at one point he can't find it. And the cat hides in the wall. She gives birth while he's in stasis. The problem is the dude that he's working with, Rimmer, is completely incompetent. Now, Lister is the guy I'm talking about.

Rimmer's the dude who's incompetent. I know that much. So Rimmer's the dude who's incompetent. I know that much. Rimmer's a dude who's incompetent and he's supposed to be seeking something called the drive plate which stops radiation from leaking onto the ship. There's so much world building in this. It's beautiful. I'm almost done.

I love it. Rimmer fixes the drive plate wrong. Radiation sweeps the ship. Kills everyone instantly. radiation sweeps the ship kills everyone instantly while Lister is in stasis

oh my god so Lister lives and there's also on the ship there's a hologram that runs there is a not a hologram what the fuck is it called it's called Holly but it's it's a it's the ship's computer, but it talks to you.

And it's a very cockney old, it's a cockney man, which is very fucking funny to me. But so he was supposed to be in stasis for 18 months, but they had to wait for all the radiation to hit a safe level on the ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he ends up being in stasis for three million years. What? Oh my God. Three million? So never to see his cat? Watch what happens. Oh my God, yeah, yeah. So he ends up being in stasis for three million years. What? Oh my God. Three million? So never to see his cat?

Watch what happens. Oh my God, watch what happens. So, so he gets out and there are these white piles of dust all over the ship. The people. The people. Oh my God. So he just walks, like I said, he's a bum, so he's just walking around going, what's this?

Oh my God. That's a comedic moment for the walking around going, what's this? Oh my God. That's a comedic moment for the audience. Right. But you don't know what it is either. So Holly goes, he's like, I guess I did. He's like, I got to tell you something. He's like, how long have I been? He's like, where's everybody at?

He's like, okay, listen, you know how you were supposed to be in stasis for 18 months? He's like, yeah. He's like, you've been in stasis for 3 million years. He's like, what? He said, is everybody dead? He's like yeah he's like you've been in stasis for three million years he's like what he said is everybody dead he's like i don't know um he's like you're an all-knowing computer he's like yeah but we're also in the middle of nowhere so i don't know um and so he's like well what's going on and he's like well and he just looks over this one pile and he wipes it off and he's like hey man uh you might not want to do that that's instant jenkins he's like what the fuck i've been eating everybody on this ship for the past hour you didn't fucking tell me

so then his homeboy rolls in because the only because the person you know because if you're if someone dies while they're on this mission yes they can bring them back as a hologram oh of course i was just saying like right because you can't have a show but they bring him back as a hologram and then he blames lister for him being dead because of like if you were not in stasis you could have helped me and he was like no you're incompetent yeah you'd have fucked it up anyway so they're talking to each other and then a character called the cat who becomes called the cat it's a black dude who's basically dressed like little richard he has these gorgeous suits on and he has this big coiffed hair

and he looks up and he's like so he comes in because he's just been strolling around the ship and rumor and listen don't expect in the life form on the ship. And he goes, uh-oh, better make myself look big. So then you realize this is the fucking cat. Oh! So he tells the history of what happened. So the cat Frankenstein gave birth. This is all on the pilot? This is all on the pilot.

So Frankenstein gives birth, his cat, in the hold of the ship. And he's like, well well you know how humans are supposed to be descended from apes these people are descended from cats oh my god okay cool but he but what's the natural selection on the ship what is that imagine if a cat became a person yeah it'd be the vainest thing you've ever seen. So he always has these designer fucking suits on. His hair is always done. Yes, like Little Richard. Right.

And the next episode, you see him. He's got this little aerator that looks like perfume. And he's walking through the ship going, this is mine. This is mine. So he's marking his territory. Wow. But it's in this little thing. And it's like, so he learns.

And then Lister finds out the later history of it but in the pilot up and so the cat shows up and then he tells them like oh i'm descending for frankenstein they're like what and then that's the end of the first episode that's creative oh my god it's crazy and then like they find an android later yeah that was a masterful synopsis of the first episode we're're going to buy it. We want to buy it. We want to reboot it. It's so funny because the cat, it's great. Because the lines that the cat has, Rimmer stole Lister's cigarettes as a way to make him do what he wants him to do.

Great. And the cat finds him. Yeah. And so he's pushing this cart, like dancing down the hallway. He's like, I got a shiny thing. He's like, what are you doing? He's like, these are mine. He's like, no, put those back. He's like, I got a shiny thing. He's like, what are you doing? He's like, these are mine. He's like, no, put those back.

He's like, no. He goes, you see this hand? It is mine. You see these things? They are mine. Like, I'm not. Then he finds a yo-yo one day. And that's funny as shit because it's how would an adult who's descended from cats interact with yo-yo.

And it's him just going how are we going and he's playing with this fucking yo-yo oh he's like you know what it does he's like yeah i do he's like you got the string up here and the shiny thing on the bottom yeah yeah here's the clever bit you put the string on the bottom and the shiny thing's on top he's like all right you know what live your life so you sound like decidedly like a sci-fi queen. Yes. I like a lot of sci-fi stuff. I've never been down, but I'm a Star Trek person, not a Star Wars person.

Wow. Okay. Because the dream of my life is to be a Kleon in a Star Trek movie, but not these new fucking weird ass dinosaur head Kleons. You want a TNG Kleon? No, I'm talking about TNG, like very Warfare, Dora Sisters,

very hair long titties out, like that's the Klingon. I'm trying to be, I don't know these weird ones, and I don't like these new ones. Was Benedict Cumberbatch's character supposed to be a Klingon? I think he was supposed to be Khan, wasn't he? He was Khan, yeah. He was supposed to be the Ricardo Montalban Khan. It's a twist. He says, I'm

Khan or something, right? I think he does. I don't know. I didn't watch the movie. I's a twist. He says, I'm con or something, right? I think he does. I don't know. I didn't watch the movie. I didn't watch the movie either. I liked the first movie because I saw the trailer and there was that shot of Chris Pine with his butt in the air and I was like, I'll see that. But then they didn't market it sexually, so I didn't see the other thing.

They didn't market it sexually. And then they made Sulu gay. They made Sulu gay. They made Sulu gay. Yeah, which pissed off George Takai. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though he gay. Why was George Takai pressed about that? Because he was like, what is the point of this?

He was like, this isn't how Gene Roddenberry wrote it. But they're like, oh, we're trying to be inclusive. He's like, yeah, that's cute. That's not the fucking point. Okay, so you're a Trekkie and a Red Dwarfy. trying to be inclusive he's like yeah that's cute but that's not the fucking point yeah um that's okay so you're a trekkie and a red dwarfie yes what what is it against star wars i don't think i get it you don't get it a family saga it's a soap opera in space what's up with star trek well i think here's the i don't have anything against star trek, but I think it's confusing.

There's so many worlds. Everything consists of this. There's always the same timeline. Star Trek always went forward until... Until very recently when they just did this CBS All Access thing. When they did Voyager,

Voyager was before. Was it Voyager before? Which one was before? Enterprise. That's the one. Voyager. No, I wanted to watch Voyager, but that Janeway chick, I couldn't listen to her voice. I listened.

I was very supportive, but she sounded like somebody was always slightly shaking her. That's good. What's that actress's name? No, because I think. name? Kate Mulgrew Oh Kate Mulgrew from Orange is the New Black Oh shit Is somebody shaking her on that show too? She actually gets shook a couple times

Okay but does she sound like That she's sitting on like No she went Russian for that one Not shaky Cute okay Cause if you're supposed to be a captain of a fucking ship, I need you to not sound like you're frightened all the time. So nervous.

She drove me crazy. And then Enterprise is, I guess, considered, is it before Next Generation? So it's before the first series. So it was before original. And then Discovery is before. Discovery is before everything. for original and then inner and then discovery is before discoveries before everything it's i don't know what the fuck this sounds just as chronologically fucked up as star wars your point holds no water no no no no no just because it's

only because i didn't watch it oh well here's what voyager i knew because the thing is like next generation and deep space nine occurred occurred at basically the same time. Because O'Brien, because the engineer from the Enterprise came to Deep Space Nine. And then Worf came to Deep Space Nine. And then fucking Quark came to Deep Space Nine.

So that was at the same timeline. And then Voyager was at the same, like they were all around the same time. And then I don't know what the fuck happened. But the point is that you, wait, wait we're gonna i want to come green about something i actually it's one of those things to say i'm a star wars fan who hates star trek that's ridiculous okay because it's just one of those things where it's like if you like star wars you feel like you have to dislike star trek and do you feel that way about star wars like being a start you don't have

any hatred towards star wars you just don't personally... Oh, dear. You don't care. No, like, the first time I saw in Jabba the Hutt... Oh, yeah, Jabba the Hutt. That big thing had that girl chained up. Yeah, Princess Leia, that girl. And I was like, oh, no. Some weird man done wrote this.

Some weird man wrote it. Some weird weird man she actually kills him in a in a feminist display that's cute but i really like originally she wasn't gonna kill him i feel like originally she probably not to fuck him what somebody and at the whole point she's chained up no well he's i guess keep well you know what you have to ask that question Why is she wearing that outfit Why is she wearing that outfit They're trying to sell her right What was happening Bo I have no idea

I think she was there as a display They made her put that outfit on And chained her little ass up The shit wasn't kosher from the get go She's supposed to be a princess and shit The fact that she didn't even have the security written into the damn movie around her to stop

her ass from getting captured in the first place. I'm going to stick up for Princess Leia because Where was her security at? She left her security because she bravely went to go rescue Han Solo who was frozen. She ain't brave, she's stupid. No, she's not stupid. She followed her heart.

That means your security, you ain't got good security. Because if you got good security, they ain't gonna ride with you regardless. So, if I say, hey, we're gonna get my man, they go, okay, let me get the ship. That means that her security wasn't loyal to her. What happened to her security?

Didn't, I'll tell you what happened to her security. All her security got blown up on Alderaan In the first movie She didn't have any security She was outliving her security She was surpassing her security So her security got killed? I guess you're going to say it wasn't good security

Of course it wasn't good security They didn't I would say this I would say there are people out there with good security. I'd say Beyonce and Jay-Z have good security, but if someone decides to blow up the Earth... Listen, but ain't nobody trying to blow up a ship with Beyonce and Jay-Z on it.

I don't know about that. I don't know. We got better things to do. We do. There's better people to kill. There definitely are, but I'm saying if we're not... Look, I think that if some parts of Earth got blown up, it'd be like, phew!

But, like... Phew! Like, like... But if the whole thing got blown up, like, we would be disappointed. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Her security was on a planet, and the whole planet got blown up?

Yeah. Yes, Alderaan. Oh, sustained. They fine. Yeah. They couldn't... There was nothing to be done. The shit you was standing on blew up.

I can't be mad at that i gotta i'm like your ocean is gone like i can't be upset yeah you don't really have a dug in this fight so i don't well so this is why i want to i want to just move on to another speaking of outfits speaking of franchises i think we we've never had a conversation with dulce about drag race and dulce is a Drag Race super fan. Listen. I think we gotta shift the conversation. When I did not, when I first moved to LA and I was staying with like a regular person, I

made sure that I still saw Drag Race. Yes. And thank God to those people. Thank you for the people on YouTube pirating this shit. Yeah. Thank you. Now before, it was still on Logo. It was on Logo. It was easier to pirate

when that shit got on VH1. Oh, man. Lockdown, lockdown. You can't find it. It's a real campaign. I had to go like, you know what, let me pay Amazon for this season because

VH1 plays no games. They are out here. I think it's just one person's job. But you're in the Viacom family. I feel like you should just have the link, the screener link at the ready. Oh. We can arrange that. We have some Viacom people in the back.

We can arrange that. I never even thought about that. we'll get her a bin link sometimes I'm like oh I wish I could see the show today I don't want cable we recap it for Vulture so we get the episode

like two days before and then we have a mole that tells us who gets eliminated a Viacom mole but we cannot say their name we will never reveal

our mole but we always know but you always know it's about to get eliminated anyway. It kind of made it less fun though this season, right? And Joel recapped it last season for season nine. So we can talk about Cameron? Can we talk about Cameron?

Can we? God. I have never in the history of Drag Race been so upset that somebody didn't win. What do you mean didn't win?

Are you pro-Cameron or anti-Cameron? I am the anti-Cameron. Anti-anti-Cameron. Anti-uncle, cousin, godmother. I'm talking about that hoe had no... I'm not here for her. Who did you like?

Listen, I always have to be here for a plus-size queen. Yeah, okay. I had to just have Eureka in my heart. Yes, I understand. And then Asia O'Hara because I... Listen, I think it was very obvious that RuPaul had a soft spot

for Asia O'Hara. Yes. And when them butterflies... obvious that RuPaul had a soft spot for Asia O'Hara. And when them butterflies... Sir, you don't know as much about this? You're an expert on Red Dwarf, but not RuPaul's Drag Race? It's okay. It's okay. Everyone's here to learn. Drag Race is at the Montreal Fringe Festival. Drag Race at the Montreal Fringe Come on let's go

This man's full of surprises Yes full of surprises No I was With Asia The butterflies I was the butterflies When that little bracelet didn't open First of all

Wouldn't have worked for Nasty or F First Second There was too much mechanics When that little bracelet didn't open. First of all, first of all. Wouldn't have worked for Nasty or If, but yeah, go. First. Second. There was too much mechanics. Yes. There was too many technical... At one point, Cameron stands and looking over like, what is happening?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Sasha, it was just petals in the glove. Boom. And the petals underneath the wig. So that's why All Stars was so great when Bebe took her wig off. Yes, it was great. And Asia was like,

bitch, ain't nothing underneath this wig. You just pulled that little fucking pussycat wig off and was nothing underneath it. Oh, I should have said that. Okay, wait. So wait. But that lip sync was a travesty because that was the one that Ben de la Creme won and then she was like, I'm going home.

And that was fixed. Yeah, that was fixed. Listen, when I just said Ben de la Creme, mother of drag queens, like, would just savior of us all. Yeah. Like, that shit. Ben de la Christ.

Ben de la Christ, yeah. Ben de la Christ. Yeah. When Ben de la went home, I was just like, you, what? Yeah. Bendela Christ. Yeah. When Bendela went home, I was just like, you, what? Yeah. I was literally in my house going, heffa. Yeah.

How dare you? Because what you did, because what you did is you slapped everybody else in the face. Straight up. You disrespected the competition. You disrespected RuPaul because we all knew she was going to fucking win. And for somebody who sits up whining all the damn time about how she wants to be seen as a specific type of performer

and wants her drag to be seen, your drag was winning. Your drag was winning and then she put an asterisk on the person who did win, right? Like on the name of the person who did win. It makes it weird for Trixie. Well, a lot of things makes it weird for tricksy she won but like it kind of feels weird because it's like yes you did win but bender lecrem also didn't compete but also it's you let morgan and michael spook you and we all knew that she was not gonna stay no no no that's why she got

kicked out the first round in the first place. Well, I mean, Joel was saying this. Like, Ben de la Creme, she's not this altruistic person by throwing a fucking grenade back into the competition with Morgan. No. I have tea about who's on the All-Stars forecast. Oh, yeah, man. I have tea.

Do people want to know? Come on. No, on. Viacom. Viacom. My Comedy Central friends in the back are like, oh, bitch. They're not.

Well, these are all just, of course, unsubstantiated rumors. I mean, you don't work for VH1, so... They don't know who I'm talking to, as I say all your names. Okay, wait. I'm just going to try to remember it off the top of my head. We have... We've got...

I also don't know who these people are. No, but how many seasons have you watched? Several. Oh, you're saying All-Stars. All-Stars 4. Oh, go. Trinity Taylor is on it. Are we a Trinity fan? Oh, the one with the butt implants. Yes. She's from the South. I got her. Valentina. Valentina.

Valentina. Valentina. Valentina will return. I'd like to keep it on. Thank you. Yes. Jocelyn Fox. No, Jocelyn Fox is not on it. I told you. She did not make the cut. Good. Decoy. Gia Gunn.

You know that giant purse that she has when she walks in? Yes. Fresh Tilapia. I was at Fresh Tilapia. I was at, I think it was the first RuPaul's Drag Con in LA when it was still on logo. She had a booth where she was the guy who makes those purses was selling them at the booth.

So it's not as... To scale? Okay, smaller. It's more manageable. But it's still a hula hoop. With a purse in it. And so I get to the booth and I'm just like, Ooh, let me get this bag in black.

And this girl, I see her over there. She's on her phone with her card in her hand. And she's like, well, you know, she's trying to get the bag. And I said, well, what's going on? Because if I see you standing there at a booth with your card and your phone in your hand, your card ain't working. So I was like, what's going on with it? She's like, oh, girl, her car didn't work here we're just gonna see what happens and i said my car ain't gonna get declined and she just went sorry

girl took my car to swipe that bitch i got that bag right in front of that damn girl my god also can't get it on a plane so no you know so many of the things bring, I'm like, how the fuck did you fit that on that plane? How? I mean, you can't check that bag. It's too precious to me. Here's the list. I'm just going to go through it. Manila Luzon and Latrice Royale.

Yes. Both back from All-Stars 1. All-Stars 1, yeah. Okay, okay. I met Manila. She's so great. Yeah, Manila is cool. Gia Gunn, I said.

Naomi Smalls. Yes. Okay. Valentina and Trinity Taylor, yes. Farrah Moan. Yeah. Oh. Farrah.

Ooh. Monique Hart. Okay. From Monique Hart. Monet X Change. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. And the gag, Jasmine Masters.

Gross. She's on All Stars 4. I can't believe they brought her back. She's on All Stars 4. She's shit on the show and shangela uh honestly yes yes i'm guessing you were a shangela fan as we all were i mean hallelujah hallelujah like shangela first of all do you ever see her and jennifer lewis are very friends yeah they're friends irl yeah. And their videos together are hilarious.

Shangela, I actually legitimately laugh every time she says hallelujah. I think it's funny. It's so funny. I met her in Anaca. She's very sweet. She was on Fire Island the same time we were and she was just like chilling. She was just like... Tell me about this Fire Island. I don't feel like I've ever seen.

I don't even think it comes up in straight people's maps. No, it does. This is a common misconception. I'm from Long Island, so I can tell you it is mostly a straight nightmare. Yeah. Okay. It's on Long Island? It's off, I guess it's off

Long Island. It's a strip of land off Long Island. You take a ferry, it's about 25 minutes. Well, 45. So it's an island island. It's an's a it's an island it's an island it's an adjacent island to the island of long okay yeah and then it's just it's cute it's cute gay things happen there in certain parts and a lot of straight nightmare happens on the whole other parts like you remember the show the jersey shore like that's the whole rest of long island like it's very like that.

And then there's the gay parts. So much of it would hit on me and act like they don't want to sleep with me. I mean, come on. Same, same, same, same, same. Same campaign. But it's fun. And then like this acid trip opened it up for me. I was like, oh, it's not about

like hooking up with people. It was just, I don't know, it was great. It's not about sexy time. It's about the universe. It's about the universe. It's about the universe. And it was about seeing everything in like three refracted overlays. It was amazing. Really?

That happened? It was beautiful. The floor started moving. It was gorgeous. Who here has done acid? Yeah, who's done acid? Anyone? Just Joel.

Just Joel. Is this conversation making you want to do acid? It is? You guys are super fun We've got a couple people who are just like no No huh So you're saying the floor became lava

No no no the floor was just like The light was percolating out of the floor It was just like red, blues, greens, yellows Just like flashing It's a glittery floor It sounds like a nightmare It was gorgeous It's like an interior designer's trying to kill you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Totally. Look at these three identical vases. Yeah, it sounds like an interior designer's lost his fucking mind. Yes, that's what it was. Am I going to get in a lot of trouble for announcing that All-Stars forecast? Am I going to get murdered?

Comedy Central's saying no. That is legal. That is legal protection. RuPaul is scary. I met RuPaul at the show. RuPaul came on the show. Oh, yeah. Talk about this.

Yeah. And we were trying to do stuff online with RuPaul and whatever. And we're like, we can't get any confirmation back. And RuPaul was like, no, I'm not going to do anything. Because I think she just wanted to come in, do her thing, and then leave. Sure. And when she comes in, she's not talking to anybody.

And it was just crazy that RuPaul was on the show and then the Parkland kids were on the show at the same time. And I was like like who booked this this is very did they at least interact it was i'm i don't know they didn't get to interact okay then and then rupaul did the interview and came back out i was walking out so when rupaul had her talk show it was in the same studio oh right, right. As the Daily Show shoots in now? As the Daily Show shoots in now.

And she walks out, she's like, oh, we used to shoot in the studio, basically. This is the thing I want to say to you so we don't engage. So she goes out, but she was very in and very out very quick. Sure. So it's like if you're busy, the guests always don't have time to talk to us. Uh-huh. So I was like, oh, she's probably busy or whatever. So it's just a pop in and pop out.

But like me and all the gay boys at work, like just sliding down the wall. Yeah. Because we couldn't meet. And you didn't get the chance to. Couldn't talk to her. Couldn't take pictures. It'll happen.

You'll be a guest judge. Yeah, you should be a guest judge. Well, we're trying to figure out. I'm trying to see if I can be a guest judge. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Or maybe I can meet her at the Emmys. Oh, my God.

Oh, yes. When you go to the Emmys. You and Ronnie should be little guest judges. I feel like Ronnie would be great. Oh, yeah. Ronnie would be great. Don't understand what's happening here. What's happening here?

Oh, my God. Ronnie Chang. Ronnie Chang. Ronnie Chang. You look great. Everything's great great I love capitalism Do not ask Ronnie Chang

About capitalism Oh my god I don't know when I ever would He loves He loves Like he loves Like he'll get Like free stuff

All the time He just goes Yeah man Just love capitalism. I'm like, good morning, Ronnie. Oh, my God. That's just him trying to cover up for the fact that his parents escaped communism

or something like the rest of us. The rest of us Chinese. But if my parents escaped communism, I probably would like capitalism. Yeah, well, whatever. It's like, oh, we're not getting killed and oppressed anymore. Let me buy this McDonald's. I get it.

We're going to get killed and oppressed by capitalism itself. Don't ask Meghan McCain about socialism. Don't ask Meghan McCain about socialism. You ever watch The View? They got into it on The View this week. Meghan McCain was just freaking out at the idea that socialists were going to come after her inherited wealth.

And anyway, it was the whole thing. Joy Behar. The View is the biggest drag show on television. It is, it is. Meghan McCain was like, name one country where socialism has worked. And then Joy Behar's just like, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden.

And then, you know. Australia. Yeah, yeah. Canada. A lot of the social stuff that we have here. Right, right, right. Norway, Sweden Australia Canada A lot of the social stuff that we have here Right, right, right Social security Public school

Public transportation She's an idiot I think she's a robot who can only say My father, my father, my father My father, my father That's I think think, Meghan McCain. It's like malfunctioning at all times. And then when those women get married, it just becomes,

My husband! My husband! Which is the dream. It is the dream! Oh, man, I can't wait to be one of those women who starts every sentence with, My husband and everything I own is monogrammed. Oh, what a dream. The Jules C. Sloan monogram. I want to say, my husband and my plastic surgeon

There you go I have been talked out of getting my lips done recently Don't do that they look good No I like it No why you need that There might be some injections My manager cussed at me He's a very sweet man

He's not here because his wife Is about to have their first baby. My wife. I've never met a man who wanted to get married so bad and be a dad so bad. Like, he would just see, like, we would be out somewhere, and he would see, like, somebody just with their kid. And he's like, oh, like, you know, ask him about the baby carriage that they were in or the stroller. And he's like, oh, yeah, I can get that for my kid. And I was like, you are adorable. and the man cussed at me um so it's very sweet sweet man um he feels

strongly about it he does he unleashed and i was like because we were in the car we're going to a meeting and i was like i gotta tell you something he's like what he's like i think i'm gonna get my lips and he goes fucking no no no hell no you're not doing it i'm gonna fuck your face up i was like i need you to relax wow escalate that okay he was very not happy now he's a parent and he feels he's like his parental instincts have kicked in so he talked to you like a daughter are you absolutely not getting your lips done yeah no daughter of mine gorgeous gorgeous okay i think it's time we're about to wrap up but we can't end this show this I'm not getting your lips done. Yeah. No daughter of mine. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Okay.

I think it's time. We're about to wrap up, but we can't end this show, this live podcast recording without a round of, I don't think so, honey. Yes. And again, we are going to do it again this evening at 830 on the Loto Quebec stage outside.

That was good. That was good. Is that okay? Loto Quebec? That's fine. Yeah. Okay. I sound like a robot.

But come because if you don't come, it's going to be a lot of kids who are going to have to listen to us. Listen. Who are going to have to listen to anal sex jokes from Code Joke and Booster. Don't feel bad about your French because French sounds like a baby talking backwards.

Oh. That's beautiful. Think about it. It's like... Because French sounds like a baby talking backwards. Oh. That's beautiful. Think about it. Where it's like, I like that. Baby talking backwards. I love it.

Do you want to go first or should I? I think you have something solid. I think you should go first. So look forward to Bo and Yang's. Me fucking bombing. Here we go. Matt Rogers is I don't think so. He will stand for this. And his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, when you have shitty, plain seat-reclining etiquette. When I'm sitting there, and I find that you were in my lap, fuck you. That is disrespectful. And then you're going to have to put me in the position of saying, excuse me, I have

no personal space. If you are not my baby, you should not be in my fucking lap. And I can't afford a baby because I paid $30 for in-flight Wi-Fi and now I can't use my in-flight Wi-Fi because my computer is fucking crushed because of you, Chuck,

which is almost guaranteed your name, because you are always an older white gentleman. Oh. He could be a nice... Here's the problem. You cannot just lay in my lap willy-nilly

unless you are one of the Chris's named Hemsworth, Pratt, 15 seconds, Pine, et cetera. Also, I don't think so, honey,

that I have to pay for Wi-Fi on the plane. If I bought a seat on the plane, Wi-Fi should be like water. It should be for everyone. Why Wi-Fi should be for everyone? I don't think so, honey. These planes.

And that's one minute. And the shit that happens on them. Wow. Gorgeous. It's so ridiculous to be like when they, the second the guy says, you can now recline and it's kush. And you're like, come on.

Kush, yeah. Some of them are too close. And then like, I don't know what it was about the screen on the plane. But I was like, leaned back, you know, the inch that they give you. Yes. And the dude behind me, I thought he was kicking the seat because he was pushing the screen. So hard.

So hard. And eventually just went, sir. And it I realized, you know what, you have no idea what I'm yelling at you for. Okay. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time will begin now.

I Don't Think So Honey Quebecois Bees. The bees here are out of control. We were eating at St. Hubert yesterday. I was enjoying a piri piri rotisserie chicken. And Joel came by, and then Joel ordered, like I said, and I guess the sucrose attracted the bees.

And they started swarming all around us. I tried to be a hero, and I tried to be a good guy with a gun and kill the bee. I tried to swat it away. The bee did not perish, kept harassing us, and then brought its brethren to come and harass

us. And I said I had to call over the nice Quebecois waitress and say, we need to move inside. This is out of control. You need to take care of this. 15 seconds. You need to take care of this. And, I mean,

I'm glad they're going extinct. No. Because what? We can make honey from agave? And that's one minute! I just want to describe Bo and Yang's technique of killing this bee.

It was to take, like, what did you have? I took, like like a cocktail menu. Like a cocktail menu and swipe sideways across the table, which like many tables at restaurants has shit on it. So he's just like the bee's here and he's like, boosh. And like

a lot of the glasses get hit. Like they didn't fully break, but I was like, that was ridiculous. I almost got him. You were driven mad by the fear. I almost got him. But Joel was scared. Joel genuinely had the fear. You were really scared, Joel. God almost got him. You were driven mad by the fear. I almost got him. Joel was scared. Joel genuinely had the fear of God in his eyes. You were really scared, Joel. And I had to kill him. Joel, are you allergic? Maybe.

He said maybe. Aw, we can't have the bees biting Joel. No, it can't be a My Girl situation. Okay, this is Oh, shit. Oh, no, that would be so sad. This is Joel Say Sloan's I Don't Think So, Honey. I mean, bees are gang members. Jules is the original Anna Klumski.

Oh, fun fact. Every bee you've ever seen is female. Oh. Because in a hive mentality, it's like bees, ants, termites. Right. It has to be females so they work together. And all the males tend to the queen. The males tend to the queen.

There's only males around the queen to just get her knocked up and make more bees. There you go. And then when they don't need them anymore, they kill them. We're queen. Matriarchal societies. Thank you, PBS. Right brain, left brain. Okay, great. This is Dulce Sloan's I Don't Think So, Honey. Her time starts now.

I don't think so, honey. White men trying to destroy me. What the fuck? All I do is exist as a fat black woman in this world. Why do you need me to be fired from every job I've ever had? Why am I being harassed by rednecks on a variety list? What the fuck is going on?

Some ridiculous southern redneck. I'm not going to call him a redneck, because rednecks have a little bit of class, and they're a little bit like niggas. They love fat chicks, love big cars, they love rap music. I fuck with rednecks.

I don't know what the fuck this was. Southern mama. This bitch tried to come for me, and I'm telling you, I don't know. We don't pray to the same God, because he wasn't ready. He wasn't ready. 15 seconds.

Because I know the God that I serve, and I very much pray, Justin prayed yesterday for the arrows of the enemy to be sent back to the sender. And every evil thing that motherfucker did to me yesterday came back on his ass and he imploded his career. And when I tell you the bomb. Keep going. The bomb that bitch had when I tell you Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Pearl Harbor had nothing on the bomb. The bomb was real. That this dirty haired bitch had yesterday. Yes, it was a bomb.

And also, I did not know that people hated boot cut jeans so much. That's Twitter's main problem with this man. It's these fucking boot cut jeans and Amanda man this hill's um ig stories yes that man oh and after his bomb after he said something racist and homophobic he came past me called me precious let me tell you no no no no no no no no now like i said if it was not for the beautiful Hebrew hair like wool Jesus, I would have dragged this bitch out of existence. Because I did not realize what was happening to me. Yes. No.

Who could have? When this hateful man walked past me and said, I did a good job, precious. Now, you're Southern. Oh. No. So. So. You're Southern.

So I've heard that word before. And we were sitting outside. I was smoking a Newport. And I was like, you're Southern. So I've heard that word before. And we were sitting outside. I was smoking a Newport. And I was like, wait a minute. This bitch called me. I was sitting next to Amanda Seals. Oh, my God. I said, hey, girl, hold my bag right quick.

This is already after Chris read a custom out. Because he was sitting inside at the bar waiting for everybody to leave because he got booed by industry yesterday. We were there. We were there screaming. They were like, what's going on? We were like, this fucking guy at the panel called dudes.

Now mind you, we all did an amazing job. Yes, we did. Each and every one. What this whole motherfucker did yesterday. And when I mean hoe, I don't mean it's not a shaming of anybody who likes to get it in. When I say hoe, I mean a motherfucker that has sold himself to the lowest common denominator. That's what I mean when I say, oh, when I say weak, you are selling a campaign that a lot of Southern white folks have worked very hard to let the rest

of the country know this is not how we think. And you were upset because you thought that you were not going to be accepted because of your identity, but all you did was shit on my identity, Joel's identity, everybody else's identity on that show, when all you had to do was shut the fuck up and take that bomb. So you going to turn around and go, oh, well, because of the other people on the show? No, bitch. You had attitude the day before. Yes.

Yes. When you were at the award ceremony didn't want to take pictures with none of us wow that happened too yep joel am i wrong he didn't want to stand on the stage that's insane well there you go he showed himself so you went around being southern mama and you ended up being a fucking alabama racist homophobic person that people have had to say, we are not like this. This is not everybody down here. And you done hopped up and brought your ass out the country to lose your entire career?

Praise God. And that's four minutes and 20 seconds. We live. Dulce Sloan, everybody. Thank you all so much for coming. Give it up for Dulce. My name is Bowen Yang. I'm Matt Rogers. Thank you so much.

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