Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "RuPaul's Drag Race: The Finale" (w/ Aaron Jackson and Josh Sharp)

Episode Date: May 19, 2016

In one of the biggest podcasting events of the decade, Las Culturistas hosts Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang are joined by Aaron Jackson & Josh Sharp to discuss the Season 8 finale of "RuPaul's Drag Race." Other topics include Christian Rock, Anaheim, Orlando, Upcoming Attractions at Universal Studios/Islands of Adventure/Disney, MERCH, and more!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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name is bo and yang we are here back from a two-week hiatus it's been a hiatus honey quite that's how you know you made it when you're able to take a hiatus and people clamor for new content we know can i tell you we've been getting texts honey one brandon scott jones one brandon scott jones every week says is there a new episode this week new app well brandon scott jones let me tell you we got quite the new episode for you this week and Brandon Scott Jones you're gonna love these guests you really are and it's because they're very very important to us

I mean there's there's such dear people to us and we look up we look up we look up to them they some you know sometimes I see myself as one of their peers but a lot of the time you what how could you a pupil of life and they have so many credits um god oh god start i mean can we talk about fucking identical twins long running

long beloved one of the best running shows at ucb hands down without hyperbole i say this they're the hosts of gay show for all people at the duplex you can find that monthly they're the founders of the phenomenal night ass wednesday oh my gosh it's not a wednesday it's not even a wednesday i don't think and sometimes that happens on fridays or thursdays too how do you explain that they can't they can't um guys there's even more to list that we can't even we can't even rifle through at this point but guys please welcome josh sharp and aaron jackson come on can we tell everyone listening um what we're what we're wearing right now so ordinarily we would come out here with some brim hat but guess what honey this is not an ordinary week no way no no no no the gays are

out to play we are naked from the waist up baby baby. We're shirtless here today. We're all drinking water. Yes. Can I quickly say about Ask Wednesday? I also teach improv. Yes. Okay. And a student.

Do you want that as one of your credits too? No. What I want to say is what a student said. I asked them what shows they saw and they list the shows. And one student was like, I saw Whole Wednesday. And I died for a long time. I was well we gotta rename no i mean come on whole wednesday i actually didn't get that it was a play on ash wednesday until way too late it was just a fill-in show on ash wednesday right yeah okay so it was only named that as a joke and then we kept doing it i love it ass wednesday is elite gay town at that i would pay good money to see a show called just whole with the word whole in the title it's such a good you mean the band whole i mean the band i would pay to see my brain went

to two spots when you said whole lewis sacker what the author of holes okay no i was thinking my brain went to wow girl don't get me in trouble already um anyway over the mic mouthing over the mic mouthing tea um i was thinking i can't give it all to the podcast brandon scott jones is gonna have to ask me for some of it in person he's gonna you're right. He's going to have to get some in-person tea on that one. Anyway, I thought of Kelly Clarkson as a song called Hole on her album, My December, and the chorus goes like this. There's a hole inside of me. Many holes.

Yeah. There's one. I mean, she only sings about one. But that's where my brain went. In middle school, I mostly listened to contemporary Christian music, mostly alternative contemporary Christian. There's a band called Audio Adrenaline, and they had a song called God-Shaped Hole.

Oh, no. That's terrible. That's disgusting. Every heart has a God-shaped hole. No, no, no. Yes, hunty. Look it up. It's in the Bible.

So were you a big fan of... So this actually is a good segue, because we usually ask our guests what culture has shaped them. Formative culture. What's brought you forth into the world? when did you know culture was for you um and i i would say josh like you do have this upbringing where you you are seem to be quite influenced or aware of a lot of christian rock music yes very much and eric has had a similar christian upbringing as well yeah i wasn't as into the bands as Josh was.

Like Josh and Corey Palmer can sort of toss off jars of clay songs. Oh, right. And I only knew some of that stuff because I was very unhip. Sure. I was a show tune kid. Right.

So is this song for you? Remember that song that was like, I can only imagine her I love that song. Surrounded by your glory When will my heart be Will I dance for you, Surrounded by your glory. When will my heart be? Will I dance for you, Jesus? That's not hip.

Josh is grimacing. I know tons of hymns and all that stuff. So like, I will raise you up. I will raise you up on the last day. Yeah. And even then, the modern shout to the lords. But those aren't like the hip. No, that's praise music.

Yeah, like I know praise music and I know like hymns, but I don't know like DC talk. That's the stuff that stays in the church. Yeah, this is the cool stuff. Yeah, this is the cool stuff on the radio. This is for the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Yes, right. Did you have a Jeep Grand Cherokee?

I did. Hell yeah, 96. 95, green. Oh my God, that's funny. I have a question. Wasn't there, there was a't there there was a hip there was a hip-hop group that was hip and christian and what were they called dc talk is maybe well dc talk was hip-hop and they moved into a rap got it i mean i mean into a rock space but they started

and they were hip-hop you know who was a christian artist like low-key stacy arico remember stacy arico no idea oh my god let me tell you Bowen because you guys will love this DC Talks hit off their first album which was their like actual like

sort of like we're the beastie boys but Christian was this song called I don't want it and it would go like I don't want it I don't want it

want it I don't want it want your sex for now for now I love that repeat repeat and then I don't want it want your sex for now it's like so they can repeat repeat and then i don't want it till we take them oh wow it had that like early 90s dip but like now i love it that's scoop up the scoop is a big part of music at that time the

scoop big part of culture but then they became a rock group and they sang about being a jesus freak should i talk about culture that shaped me sure yeah i don't know that that is the culture that shaped me but that's okay it's a part of you but it's certainly i would say okay so josh what were your because we're on josh right now then we're gonna move over to aaron love that first time we have two guests first time we have two guests i mean we're overwhelmed watch the clock yeah watch the clock so josh like what were things that like you know a little 11 12 13 year old josh harp so it certainly was that because i feel like that was the like sheltered experience of that time and then i feel like moving into high school when i was like felt like i was opening up it was like it was dave

matthews band and fish and really great yeah that. That was when I was like, Oh, I get this. Like, like I liked the contemporary Christian stuff as a young person, but I think the like jam band scene in high school is when I was like, Oh, I finally get who I am. And I would like want to go see concerts and right. Love it. Um,

let's, let's branch out into other media books, TV movies. Wow. Yeah. Anything at that age of that formative period for you? What was the show? Well,

um, Aaron and I have talked about this, right? That we, you read a lot of Agatha Christie. Oh. Yeah, I still do. Which is full camp, you know?

People that are into Agatha Christie are really into Agatha Christie. But also, and Aaron shares this too, I also, but in that period before, like the contemporary Christian phase, all of those left behind books. No, I didn't read those. I saw the movie, the first one. I terrified those books.

It's a rapture of story. Harry Potter fans, or were the parents saying, no Harry Potter? I was big Harry Potter, but in high school, not as a child. Not a Potter fan, but not because the parents said no. But because it just never happened. Just never happened.

Josh is not a fantasy head. Not a fantasy queen. Josh is not a fantasy queen. Really, neither am I. I've never really been a fantasy queen. Neither am I. Sooty loves that shit. But you love Harry I. I've never really been a fantasy queen. Neither am I. Sudi loves that shit. But you love Harry Potter.

I love Harry Potter. I have all the scarves from Harry Potter World. I've been there several times and I make sure I buy each scarf so I can wear the kind of scarf that I feel.

How many are there? Four for the houses. Four for the houses. See, it's that shaped culture because here's a non-fantasy person knowing that there are four houses in a fictional story. And I know there's four new ones

for the Eddie Redmayne. Oh, yeah. Their names are disgusting. Rule number 13 of culture. Harry Potter is a part of it. quite part of it. Yeah.

That's number 13. Number 13. Number 13. Unlucky. But, yes, I feel that you can wear a different scarf

for your different feelings. Sure. Yeah. Well, Aaron, let's move on to you. What are some formative pieces of culture? As a youth, because you said like 11. Those shows like, sure yeah well aaron let's move on to you what are some formative pieces of culture um as a as a

youth because you said like 11 and those shows like like animaniacs was definitely like huge for me into like books at that age it was into the goosebumps the anamorphs music i think i was like full show tunes then so like original broadway cast recording of the music man you know it like was very that's what i did i didn't get into like um real music quote unquote until high school and even then pretty late yeah show tune kit um and then in high school i was like would get into like ben harper yeah um and the beatles like truly discovered the beatles i was like these songs are cool i avoided Ben Harper even though I was into all the jam bands yeah well Ben Harper

is a little Ben Folds yeah I like Ben Folds Ben Harper was less truly like jammy than those other guys and he was very like his super sad songs which I was like very into so I'm gonna say it you guys like like boy music oh definitely

show tunes is I could sing along to a classic into it so i'm gonna say it you guys like like boy music oh definitely like show tunes is show tunes like i could sing along to a classic that's not boy music i think i would have been into all that shit had i known it was out there i remember like when i discovered like rhapsody or whatever the music sharing thing was at that time oh yeah i listened to a lot of like i realized there were show tunes or that or that there was like more than Hairspray the Musical that my parents took me to. I was like, what is this? I didn't come out until end of college,

but I think I didn't even get into what are normally gay touchstones of culture until college. The first, I would say, was Bjork. Bjork in high school. Bjork was the thing I look back on as being like, that's the first gay thing. That's a good one.

I think my movie thing, cinema like uh culture cut touchstone this is also very gay is Betty Davis that to me is like huge like discovering Betty Davis and like going full like get when Netflix was new like renting all of her movies like I've seen she made like 80 movies and I've seen like 45 of them and there are some that should never be watched because they made them make like nine movies a year back then and they didn't even want to be in them but I would just like slobber over anything she was in

have you heard about the new show feud that Ryan Murphy is doing yes Ryan Murphy's newest satanic thing that I can't wait to watch Susan Sarandon playing Betty Davis and Jessica Lange playing Joan Crawford. Famous feuds. Best line from that feud.

I love to quote this. Come on, baby. Do it. I love this. So Joan Crawford dies and Betty Davis was asked to remark on Joan Crawford's death and she goes, they say you should never speak ill of the dead. Only good. Joan Crawford is dead. Good.

I think it's brilliant. So good. That's what I'm going to say when you die. Yes. Perfect. Famously, Aaron has a framed photo of Betty Davis's Life magazine. In my home. In my home.

I love Betty Davis. Perfect. Everybody watch All About Eve. Just check it out. Great screenplay. Great acting. Classic. Josh, do we get to a movie for you?

Do you have one off the top of your head? We don't have to. Now, I know you are influenced as am i by those charlie kaufman movies yes i would say that's later i don't remember them but yeah eternal sunshine not even that one as much adaptation i would tell you now that synecdoche new york is like the greatest movie to me but adaptation and malkovich more so things i got into i love malcovich and eternal john's great not knocking it but not knocking it but not you're not his rom-com underrated underrated amazing amazing actor is katherine keener oh my god absolutely she had a big she had like a big come forth like post malcovich like into 40 year old virgin like she was she

was in a lot of movies but yes i agree she's completely you know rule number 90 of culture katherine keener is underrated oh that's it oh wow all right well okay she is a rule she's a rule of culture um you know famously i've never seen like almost any old movies in fact i've never seen the sound of music and i get a lot of shit for that i haven't seen a lot of old i've never seen the sound of music and i get a lot of shit for that i haven't seen a lot of old movies i've seen the sound of music but i'm with you i haven't seen a ton of like movies i mean i don't see a ton of movies correct i would say i find i read so many more books than movies yes they're long yeah movies are long and tv is now but so are

books and but i think i can chunk books, you know? With movies, it's a prescribed time period and a length for you to sit there and consume it. For books, you can read it. A book you can read on a train. It's like, how do I know where I'll be emotionally in an hour? And that's why, famously, I have not watched a lot of TV shows. Famously. I have a pushback. Even despite the fact that TV shows are famously shorter than movies.

Right. But Aaron and I have said this. Not in the culture we live in now. Because it's not oh you've seen one episode of uh breaking bad it's like that's not enough to these people so again it is a thing where um you know if i'm to tell you to watch a movie or read a book that's an afternoon but people are mad at you for not watching literally a week and a half worth of tv i don't understand where the time that's how it is they're like oh you do? And then people are even still they're like

watch it. Skip season two and six but watch it. It's like if you are telling me to skip like 14 hours. That's why I don't watch West Wing.

I haven't seen West Wing love Aaron Sorkin love them all but everyone's like it gets bad and I'm like if it gets bad I'm not going to do it.

Don't tell me it gets bad. I will only recommend TV and be like I can never strongly recommend TV. I can only say I liked it if you catch yourself sick watch it like there's never i'm never gonna tell anyone

they have to devote themselves to a tv show sure even the ones i love there's one exception though and that's what we're going to talk about later today but like with drag race we're gonna get oh but with drag race it's simpler it's simpler you can be like exactly it's although even then there are it has become a show that's eating itself in some way well there's a call that it's gay so it's self-referential but it's even now self-referential not just to gay culture but to the culture of drag race yeah right you know i mean like it makes inside jokes so i do think it still is it's a little trickier now to just like start at a season and not have someone guiding you through you could enjoy it you just

would enjoy things less because i started with season four or something and just and i think it wasn't as bad then it was there's a lot there's like traditions you don't know about snatch game and so what we're getting out of ourselves but like you don't know about certain things you're just like oh i'm watching it and then you go back and watch it like oh there were jokes that i missed i've noticed this year that rupaul has been heavy on the jiggly caliente references yes and um she's always referencing her this year that RuPaul has been heavy on the Jiggly Caliente references. Yes. She's always referencing her. This year, I think because

it does a lot of her stuff. I think because it was 100 Queens, he was like leaning into it a lot this year. It's a legacy. Yes.

Consider your legacy. Consider your legacy. Consider your legacy. The snake is eating its own tail. I do agree. I'm not necessarily saying this is bad.

I'm just saying I notice more and more that show is. I agree with you. not necessarily saying this is bad. I'm just saying I notice more and more that that show is. I agree with you. And also, Bob is now the cornerstone of that first queen raised by the show. Right. I love that. Oh, I didn't even realize that.

Okay, well, let's get into the show now. Let's get into the show. I mean, like, they're doing a lot more jokes even about literally, like, Bob's one of his best jokes of the season was, like, cue, cue Sassy Rattlesnake. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. that was great i mean bob the drag queen for those of you who do not know has one season eight of rupaul's drag race spoiler yeah sure you know bowen people were coming for bowen

i have one question did they air it on the west coast at the same time or they had to wait three hours but that's that's the only thing I get because there were West Coast people commenting on that. If you care about a live show and you know about West Coast, you have to get off social media. I agree. I have gotten off even when it's not aired live. I don't go on Facebook when we knew we were going to miss that episode when we were in Florida. I agree. I'm not going on Facebook for a day if I don't want it spoiled.

I do the same thing. People are stupid. Here are the comments that I got from one David Craig, whom I love. He said... What name's he been? West Coast. I'll name him. West Coast. David Craig, West Coast? Didn't know. They're in LA right now. They're bi. Bi Coast. He and Bri Cray are bi. Bri Cray bi. Bi Co.

Bri Cray bi Co. Famously Bi Cray bi Co. Will anyone understand a word of this podcast? Oh, we can just say... Brandon Scott Jones will. B.S.J. B.S.J. B.S.J. B.S.J.

B.S.J. B.S.J. He's our one listener, essentially. No, we've got a lot of listeners. I have listened, honey. B.S.J. needs to listen. Rule number 25 of culture.

We have listeners. David Craig said, spoiled two seasons in a row katya gate well katya gate was something i took very personally katya gate i own up to and in fact i did i did dub it katya gate yeah oh congrats that is huge no one had used gate as a suffix not not that i had heard and certainly not katya not that i had heard i just thought let's put it let's stick a gate on the end of this and see what happens. I was just thinking about gates at the time. I wasn't even thinking about water gates.

I was with Josh Sharp at Barracuda when she was eliminated. Do you remember this, Josh? Yeah, because this was our first time venturing out that season. And that's when we learned, I think, as we've referenced before, the response of Ginger by the community, and we were shocked. That Ginger was popular, And we never knew. We had been living in a button. Not a button, a bubble of our friends.

But this was immediately after Katya was eliminated. I was a barracuda. I was distraught. And so I tweeted just something true to. It was something that I needed to express. You said no, Katya. And everyone knew what you were talking about. And honestly, as a friend, you were absolutely in're talking about and honestly as a friend you were

absolutely in the wrong of course that time you were in the wrong but not not this for a crown last night but what's the difference the difference again for west coast i would say i'm with aaron that it's like if you really don't want it spoiled don't check i think the show are expecting a certain grace period of like maybe give me a couple hours. Bowen, he texted it as it had aired, right? You're talking about the coronation? No, no, no, no, Katya. Katya, yes. The episode hadn't even ended.

So I'm thinking if I went on... This did not get spoiled for me, but I'm thinking as a person, like I went online, like maybe someone's not even eliminated yet. Right, right. You have a grace period. We're talking about literally two minutes before it ends

and two minutes after in this. So you think that is enough for that to be well i just think the distinction is in the fact that it is the finale i agree with you yes explain i'm not disagreeing i just want you to articulate this opinion it is a cultural event and therefore like you're getting new cultural information like super bowl like yes yes maybe i'm taking this a little too seriously but it's just like we have a new queen of rupaul's drag race that is something that is an announcement that is a piece of fact especially like for people that care and so learning that and also there's just not as much suspense and tension in the finale i feel is that now i think like broncos win the super bowl no

one's like you fucker like you spoiled the super bowl like Broncos win the Super Bowl. No one's like, you fucker. Like you spoiled the Super Bowl. And also you know that it's gonna be one of those three. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not like, yeah, you can't spoil the Super Bowl.

One of those three of them is gonna win. I would have never guessed that Katya had been eliminated. I think because it's live too. I know the finale is pre-taped, but they don't know until, like Bob didn't know until it aired. So I think like that makes it feel

like the Super Bowl to me. It's like, it's live. Whereas the Katya thing, that's a pre-taped episode so it feels more like oh give me a minute a lot of just a lot of differences and distinctions wow i really like now unpack that i don't watch much reality other than rupaul's likewise likewise do the other reality shows have the same east coast west coast problems a lot of the major networks i would say certainly that they do, because, I mean, that's just how television is.

But I would say, yeah, if you're feeling passionately about Survivor, because you're a big survivor. Do any of them air at the same time on the coast to avoid this is my question. I think Survivor does not. No, because you can't. Because American Idol and some of those that were live must have. They did.

Yes. The Oscars do and shit like that. Right. But it feels weird to put survivor on at 5 p.m on a wednesday when it's on 8 p.m i don't think they do it at five i believe when it was big probably toward the end now but like in its heyday you're probably right i've always thought that must be so strange to live on the west coast and watch live maybe it didn't but maybe they showed the live broadcast late there i i just would have guessed they did but i don't know the finales were taped in los angeles though

for american idol um yes they were so it was live but they do it at five o'clock yeah you're right they they do unless they are only showing it live for the east coast but why are we why are we like um like because money. Because of ratings. And the time. You ain't going to get people watching at 5 p.m.? I guess you're right. They don't give a shit about... I mean, they need to air it,

tape it live at 5 p.m. West Coast so that East Coast gets it. Josh whipping out his L.A. knowledge right here. But wait, I want to talk more about Drag Race. Let's talk about Drag Race. About reality TV in general, even though I love Survivor. Steer it, honey.

Steer this. I thought the discussion of spoiling is interesting. I agree with you, Aaron. But now we're talking about East Coast West Coast. I'm exhausted. Let's do a nipple check before we talk about that. To see if they're still there. Mine are shockingly hairy.

I think I have the hairiest ones here. Well, yours are the longest. Not 15 seconds ago, someone said, let's get back to Drag Race. Before we get back to Drag race. Well, then we started talking about bodies. Before we get back to drag race, as an interlude, I would like us to check our nipples. Okay. I'm getting mine a little hard.

Okay, great. It's a little chilly in here, but it feels good. It feels good. Yeah. I love clothes as a student, but I hate clothes. Like, I get annoyed at clothes. So here's a question, and after this, I do want to get right back to drag race but i'm really interested in this question okay great when you're at home and you're you know filling your oats sure um do you go less clothes on the bottom half of your body or less clothes on the top half of your body because i do shirt underwear yes or just fully

naked when i'm like hanging out at home and i've noticed that my boyfriend does the same thing shirt underwear although he just likes to walk around in his underwear a lot what do you guys do what's your state of hanging out i shed my lower half and so there's as far as mobility goes as far as walking place to place it's just it's it's so much more comfortable yeah what about you guys i'm more of it like would wear the shirt, not the pants than where the pants and not the shirt. Right. Right. I would say same though. Also often shirtless,

but more commonly naked. Also shirt naked. A lot. I'm not often naked. You have roommates. I roommates. Yeah. Yeah.

But famously some, some, some hunky roommates, Fulta shirtless all the time. Is he shirtless all the time? Are you kidding me? And let's say, yeah, but he, he's in his the time? Are you kidding me? Let's not just say, yeah,

but he's in his home, but when it's not like he's bathing, like I guess at this point, like you're in your underwear. I know. You know, that's what I'm saying. Let him be.

Go ahead. Attack him. I'm not attacking James. James, if you're listening, he's not, he's not. Michael Wolf's also cute.

And so is that lesbian that used to live with you guys. Both of them less shirtless than Volta. The lesbian? What's your problem? I don't have a problem, James. I love you so much. James and I have really bonded quite a bit in the last year. You know what?

I feel some frustration as a single gay man that James is very good at, you know, getting all the gays riled up. And it's not even just the gays. He has a legacy. He has a legacy. And just so everyone knows, Bowen is furiously masturbating. Furiously.

Right now. Bolton does it without even trying, though. I think it is that. There are some straights who try. It's effortless. It is, yes. Isn't that sad, though? I cannot believe it.

The straight guys that, like like really want the attention. No, not if I want to give it to him. It's not sad to me. I'm glad it's going to happen. Well, you're okay. I don't care. I don't like that. I don't care. Well, then step aside. I'll give it to you. I don't care.

I fucking love Creole fish. Here's the thing that frustrates me a lot, especially when I was single and I would meet somebody and just feeling like an intense flirtation with them and then finding out that they were straight. It's not fun. To me, it's fun to like touch a waist, touch a stomach,

touch an arm and know that it's fine. Even with a gay guy, if it's like, Oh, we're not actually going to go like have sex. I don't mind touching a waist, touching a stomach. I would call myself a flirt.

Cosign. So when someone else is a flirt i say thank god but then but then we see some of those men hook up with our gay friends on the stage at k-map cage match and then everything changes that was a hot kiss it truly was like a a real nice kiss it was that's culture that is culture rule number number 78. Kisses culture. Kisses culture. Kiss culture. Kiss culture. Kiss culture on the open mouth. Love it.

Rule number 78. Let's get back to Drag Race. Why not? I feel like we're 45 minutes in. Well, can I say, talking about... No, it's okay. We're following the exact pattern our episodes usually go, which is like a lot of bullshit,

and then like six minutes of what our actual topic is. Okay, thank God. I don't mean to de-attach myself. Chi-Chi Devane. I fucking love Chi-Chi chichi and honestly i want her i have serious problems with naomi being in the top three and not chichi a little bit i have problems with it i don't have serious problems with it but i did want for chichi to be in the top three josh and i saw that final episode together where they were about to announce the top three and eliminate Chi Chi.

But there was a moment and I really believed this was going to happen where I was like, what if they do a top four this year? I had one of those. I smelled that coming too, especially since they did the double elimination and never like brought back. Like they never did. You both Shantae,

you both stay, which my thought of it was, I think neither Chihi nor Naomi were going to win in the top three. Of course. Even if Chi-Chi was in, I went. But Chi-Chi still had a story. I disagree. I think Chi-Chi either comes in fourth or first. There's no way.

I think if Chi-Chi. There's no way. I don't know. Matt, you know. No, I don't. Let him speak his truth. I don't understand this. I don't know if it, you know. No, I don't. No, Matt, she doesn't win. Let him speak his truth. I don't understand this. I feel as if.

I don't know if it's his truth, really. You are shutting him down. I feel as though, actually, if you really look at the season, the most attention was paid to Chi-Chi. That was the biggest arc. A little bit. Was the hero's journey of Chi-Chi Devane. She had the biggest edited journey, I agree. And i agree and maybe kimchi you know what i will say i feel like

kim's should would have stood a better chance of winning if she would have told her mom which is fucked up hold on hold on so someone so someone at the av someone at the av club wrote a recap of the finale last night and they had this whole paragraph where they were like you know when rue was interviewing kimchi after her number at the crowning you know she kind of went into her mother and the fact that kim had had still not made progress cost her the crown so for everyone that doesn't know this kimchi is not out to her mother as a gay man and does her mother does not know that kimchi does drag and does not know the extension of her talent or her and her mother's a korean american so there is like a cultural more of a cultural difference

right and that is the thing every culture has their own shitty way of reckoning with with homosexuality that's rule number six that's six of culture um but with with asians like listen just speaking for myself and for people that i know i've never seen it i've never seen it work out in a way that uh not everyone is extremely extremely it's it's not an extremely painful process for everybody it has never been portrayed in a positive accepting light in terms of like the family accepting the out gay um asian person it's true and it's kim's choice to not well i'm saying i think it's fucked up i don't think i should have told her mom for tv but i think so you agree i i think if she would have i think rue likes that tv and i'm not saying she would want i really truly think it was bob season like i don't i honestly

think we'll look back on it and be like oh no one stood a chance right um the way we do with bianca and adore even though it felt like a door might win and then when you look back on it you're like oh no bianca like walked in the door and won i feel like that's how we'll look at bob but i do think it would i as gross as it is i think that's a negative thing i think that's the tv-ish part about drag race that if kim had told her mom and had like a sob story on the finale it would have been more like, you're the queen, you know, like, which is gross. You are sort of positing that Asian is the hardest culture to come out in. Not, no,

I don't want to. I'm just saying, cause that we are creating, I'm not disagreeing, but we're creating this sort of like pissing contest because it's not easy to come out and being black and gay. No, absolutely.

No, that's what I'm saying. Like every culture has their own terrible way of considering, uh, like how to treat like, you know, they're,

they're, they're, they're gay youth population, whatever. I think that, and this is me speaking without the knowledge of really what I'm talking about, but this is something that I'll like posit is that like,

there's just a complete lack of education in a lot of traditional Asian heritage about homosexuality. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And whereas like, I think i don't maybe am i out of turn saying no uh no you you're not i just don't think it's like i'm a white man i'm a white man and this is something in a recent anti-racist seminar everyone that doesn't know

aaron josh and i are white bowen is an asian identify as white and bowen identify it's important to identify this is is something we discussed. I'm not joking. In a recent anti-racist seminar we went to that was paid for by the UCB community. But I was going to say, I would say, and again, I'm fully prepared to say

I'm waiting in a territory where I might say something that's uninformed. But that's allowed. But that's allowed. You have to go to these places. I'm sometimes surprised about the element where drag, you feel like would be a hard sell in the drag,

in the Asian community, because how much there is like a tradition of Kabuki and cross-dressing and theater that embraces gender fuckery. Manila Luzon, a queen who was a runner up season three and was an all-stars. Yes. She went and fuck, I can't remember where,

not the, she went to Asia somewhere and was like where not the phil she went to asia somewhere and was like like is she filipino huge she's i would believe she is filipino she's part of manila and she went and that's why when she did like a horribly stereotypical asian dialect on the show people were like well we'll let it slide and she won that challenge but it really was like the one where you're like um like mic Rooney. But anyway, she went and was like huge there. And like there, I saw videos of her on Instagram because that to me also,

again, as a white man might be saying something horribly racist. It seems like the fucking Asian community would like go gaga for drag. And I feel like if it's very visual. Yeah. And they let like, that is true.

When I went to Taiwan, it was like, everything is animated. Like the subway ads where it's like, don't eat on the subway is like Mario and Luigi. And it's like they love icons and iconography and stuff. Here's what you do. For all of those countries, you dial down the, I don't know,

the puritanical mentality that all of those, all of those countries are coming out of. And then, and of course it's like the, the mate, like they, they get out of the matrix. They're like,

Oh my God, everything is gay and everything's great. And like everything that is gay is great. And, and yeah, I don't know. I think, um,

there's, there's catching up to do in that part of the world. But for Kim back to Kim, I think she has the right and anyone has the right of any culture to come out whenever they want to negotiate to negotiate what they want to communicate to their parents but this is what they want to fucking show on tv yeah totally totally agree with that and this is me speaking to tv but this is why as i've said before to me bob is the clear choice though and that doesn't that still is like

some weird factor of it where kimchi's journey it wasn't really about that it's about more than other things right right was sort of the typical drag queen journey of like I'm learning to love myself like oh my god I should embrace what these things about me whereas Bob's really was like because it's not that Bob didn't deal with that Bob talked about like I was like a dark-skinned kid growing up in, you know, wherever. Right.

But he like came in as sort of more like, oh no, I've dealt with that. Now what I want to bring is what drag can do for the world, which is like, whoa, there's not really been a queen on the show that's fully articulated that. I was trying to think of all the winners and I don't think any of them really

made a case for that before now. No, it's all been pretty selfish. They make the case for why I am the best this season, which they should, which they should. Which they should. And sometimes why I'd had personal growth this season. I love that.

Which Bob also did. But Bob was like really going like, this is what I will do with this. No question. Which I wonder if that's going to be a new thing for the show. By the end, Bob was the winner. Yeah. I just disagree. Like, thinking about what I said about Chi-Chi, when you historically look back at the show,

it's not always the person who quote unquote won the season that walks away with a crown. I don't think you could look at the season that Jinx Monsoon was on and say, well, she had won that season. It was clear. Yeah. There was a feeling that she should win.

Yeah. I think, and she had deserved to win, but I think that she had many documented struggles on that show. Yeah, and I think with her, it was like she was not good at looks, Jinx Monsoon, but she slayed the challenges because there were so many comedy or singing

or acting challenges that season, and she's like a campy cabaret queen. She's very good at that. So I do think that they would have kicked her off normally in many other seasons because it's like oh that she like look at her on the runway she's trash yeah but then it was just like but you won the challenge and she was she wasn't that bad on the run no i re-watched it her her wigs are very thirsty her looks are like oh like so bad but she did that diaz let los Muertos look which I loved I liked that and also she looked good

at the finale yes when she came out at the end this finale yeah this at the end she looked fabulous

she looked great yeah Violet and Irwin but we have to talk about Violet I mean this was this was the gag of the season

holy shit the gag of the season was Violet Toshki in the finale of season 8 the flesh crown the flesh crown the scarabs

the scarabs the scarabs the scarabs. The scarabs. The blue veins coming through her. That waist cinch. I couldn't believe those veins. You'll never take that crown from her.

No. I love that. And that made me, the bar I was at, we were all freaking out, screaming. And we'd all been talking shit about season seven

the whole time. And I was a Violet Chachki apologist supporter. And I would just like to say, if Ginger Minj waddled out there like a fucking toad yes no one would give a fuck and the bar was screaming for violet who we talked shit about earlier that day and i will just say she was the fiercest right right and then deserves her place she's a queen i mean by all means we dropped off in our grinder conversation and I still hold a little bit of animosity for that.

No hope. We look at it. I'm mad at everyone I haven't fucked. It's not even that. I'm mad at everyone I haven't fucked. Culture rule number 87. Be mad at everyone you haven't fucked.

There's a reason to be angry. I was there with you, bitch. Yeah, well, you didn't stay is what I was saying. seven be mad at everyone you have in fox there's a reason to be angry suiting and i went to the season seven crowning i was there with you bitch yeah well you didn't stay is what i was saying i was gonna say because bowen has this theme where he'll prioritize drag race above all else entirely the time that it's on and then we'll go to the finale he'll like get this amazing opportunity to see the crowning the crowning will happen and then they're like, okay, now they're all going to come out and perform.

We're going to like party and watch them all perform and Bowen's like, I'm tired. It's a Monday night. Yeah, but you know what? If you really prioritize that,

you would stay and watch Violet do her silks. Speaking of which, I saw her do that last night and bitch, she was amazing. She gagged me. Well,

I saw it. She's probably better than she was a year ago. Honestly, she was. It doesn't matter because it wasn't the fire in her heart that she had just won. Honey, honey, I had the fire in her heart than she was a year ago, honestly. She's been practicing. It doesn't matter because it wasn't the fire in her heart that she had just won.

Honey. Honey, I had the fire in her heart that she was giving up her reign, honey. She had the fire. This is my last chance. You don't sound like anything. You can't get your life. You can't even get your life right now. Let me tell you something, and you can't speak to this.

Violet was incredible with those silks and the aerial movements. It was unbelievable. Make sure you say a year ago. Violet was incredible. Ginger Minj. say a year ago. Violet was incredible. Ginger Minj. Say a year ago. Ugh. A year ago.

Ginger Minj did this stupid fucking performance and it was just dumbass, like basic ass singing. Sorry. Live singing. Live singing. And it was like this weird like road song. But the worst of all was Pearl

who absolutely was worthless. Couldn't perform at all. She DJs now. I love the worst of all was pearl who absolutely was worthless couldn't perform at all and i love when some of these internet padding was showing oh god i love when some of these internet jackals love to be like trademark aaron jackson love to be like oh fucking rude she just gives it to like the fucking most you know the fucking queen with the biggest social media following is like that was pearl. Yeah. Pearl had the most followers this year. Kim had the most followers. Adore. Adore had the most followers. It rarely does. I would say

it impacts them going far sometimes, but also all those queens were pretty good. I'm very grateful. Does Pearl just DJ now? It's like Battle of Seasons. Katya. And it's like Pearl. DJ set by Pearl. Which I think is kind of cool though just like throw your fucking things on and dj shocked that pearl is not on all stars

too i bet she said no no i bet she wasn't asked i don't think i really bet she probably doesn't like her no i would be sure that she doesn't and also maybe pearl was just super novelty for that season for sure what i liked about pearl though was that she refused to bite and play the game and reveal too much about her personal life. I did like that. I agree, too, in the finale, because it seemed like they were trying to tease that she had been abused in her youth,

and they were trying to get that out of her, and she was like, I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it, which is great. You're allowed. I don't remember. Did she flat out say

she wasn't going to talk about it? They kept trying to get at it in reality tv way and she just would be like i i don't want to talk about that right but the part where she ultimately led to bad tv and i hated her to be honest with you though i mean that's the thing is like violent didn't have that much shit to say i'm not joking you don't have to pour that much out. You just have to do anything. I didn't like Pearl. She didn't do anything. She didn't do anything. She wasn't. I just really appreciate when it feels like it's a competition. Like, despite the fact that you can look back on this season and say,

Bob did win. It was a nail-biter there between her and Kim Chi. Yes. Now, what I do agree is if Chi Chi was in the top three, you'd feel like it was more of a horse race. Absolutely. But I still don't think you would think Chi Chi was going toichi was you would run the gamut of all these different great you'd have at least have an answer for why she could win i think there wasn't really an answer for why

naomi could win really okay wait i want to tell we um know someone who was at the finale and he told me some fun stuff give us some tea so one that is so funny is they film um multiple they film all the them winning the crown um so there's no spoiler um he did say they filmed bob twice and filmed none of the other ones twice but a lot of times they'd be like oh the mic's cut out like you need to film that again and they like said something like that but it was sort of like get your angles but anyway when they filmed naomi um naomi smalls is this beautiful model who's now going to walk in fashion weeks and stuff. But when they filmed her, she got the microphone and said, thank God a big girl finally won,

dropped the mic and just walked. It's on Instagram now, actually. It is? Oh my God. Someone taped it on a phone. That to me is so funny. Thank God a big girl finally won. But your friend gave it his tea of like she knew she wasn't.

She was like, I'm not going to win. She's not going to win. And she just modeled and walked. I love that. Honestly, maybe that's reason enough to have her won. So you can show that and be like, listen. That's a really good line. That's amazing.

Can we tell our favorite Naomi story and get it on record here? Oh, I've heard this. We've heard this. But this is for the viewers. I haven't heard it. You might have. So Aaron and I were hanging out with Bob in uh la before the season aired and naomi was there and naomi was beating her face and at this point they both taped the season they both had taped

the season they knew they were we were to hang out with we didn't even know naomi was on the show naomi was on the show because she was not really in the leaked list right from up top because she was a not an unheard of yeah she's relatively unknown so we're hanging out with bob in his hotel room and we're just gonna go and hang out and stuff and then naomi's there beating her face and naomi's gonna go out and host at mickey's and naomi is basically wearing a thong and then like a see-through plastic pants and shorts and then these eight inch heels and a long yellow wig long yellow wig she's like a you know like a neon seven foot barbie like her roller skate neon look.

Or maybe it wasn't roller skate. She had the plastic cones. But it was blue. It was like tinted blue, but see-through and a thong, right? Stunning in person. Stunning boy and girl. Stunning boy, stunning girl. Girl at DragCon, like being up close, I was like, you are staggeringly beautiful.

Keep going. So we go out and we're walking to the car. She's going to drive to her gig and she's in her heels. And Bob is like, who? She's seven feet tall. Child, like take them off gig and she's in her heels. And Bob is like, she's seven feet tall child. Like, take them off, put them on in the club. And she's like, no, no, no. He's like, what are you doing? You are walking down Sunset Boulevard wearing your heels.

Like, put them put on your flats and put them on the club. And she turns to us. She goes, I don't want to look tacky. And then walks off asshole out in the open next to a highway. And we're all saying, I don't want to look tacky and we just died all three of us just stopped and gagged like laughing because it was to sit on the ground. So it was just

you guys and Bob and Naomi we didn't even know Naomi was like going to be the big thing, but then I remember asking Bob like because then we went out and like hung out at gay bars with Bob and then I and Naomi had to host. I was like, what's her name again? She's so fierce. He's like Naomiomi smiles that didn't give it away at all but i love it you're gonna know her name you know stories because bob had seen fucking identical twins and

he'd seen in new york but also was very nice and came in la was gonna take naomi now we didn't come but naomi naomi on the mic at mickey's she's hosting but oh you told us like yeah everybody's talking like no one can hear and she gets on a mic the dj doesn't take the music now she's hosting but oh you told us like yeah everybody's talking like no one can hear and she gets on a mic the dj doesn't take the music now she's just doing the normal like welcome to me like yeah and she's like and guys be sure to check out a show at upc theater she was like you're nice what what's your show i was like oh it's at the ucb check it out at you check it out tomorrow night upc it was so funny that no one could hear while go go boys dance

with their that reminds me of a funny story that Amanda tells about Amanda our friend Amanda Shackman she's in popular with us and she gets calls from like her agent or manager like she'll get voicemails about audition she has coming up like because you know how some people in the industry

I guess when they get funny people to come in for commercials they're like we love to see like you know you see beyond a resume and stuff like that so she'll get like a voicemail from this like basic ass assistant at our agency and she'll be like hey amanda this is kristin from and we have an audition for you um this is like improv it should be very ubc pit um you know and they wanted they want real they wanted to be very they wanted to be very ubc um you play like a girl who is um funny in a situation um so remember remember remember to bring ubc pit and also now bringing up the pit gives me my this is my favorite bob the drag queen is when we were all the four of us were there yeah and there was a

bunch of people there and we were all sitting The four of us were there. Yeah, and there was a bunch of people there and we were all sitting there and I guess he kind of knew you guys because of fucking that it goes into that point. Yeah, I think we just came a bunch to his show

and he ended up talking to us and we invited him. And we hung out a time and then he came to that and then, yeah. And he goes, oh, over there,

those are the comedy gays, like the UCB gays. You better watch out or you're going to be performing at the pit. Such a read to the pit. It's just like, such a read to the pit such a read to the pit and also so specific i know like so lived in we all not even new york

people would know that oh and that barracuda definitely yeah no we've even heard it if you're like pick a room in new york where no one will know the differences all those fucking zombies you'd be like fucking barracuda like a messed out barracuda on a monday night at one in the morning everyone's like what oh my god that was so funny it was so funny it was just for us and that made me fucking love him and honestly did you guys know watching him then that he would one day win rupaul's drag race i felt like i knew he would i just talked to our dear friend zach reiner harris last night and we were so happy when he won and we're all dancing around and then we were talking about like oh my my God, I can't believe it.

And then he said, but like, cause we were talking about how it was our queen and like our favorite queen. And it's so cool to have your favorite queen on the show and then win. And he was just saying though, like, but when you heard she got on,

we were all like, Oh, well she's going to win. There was no way. I would say even before that, when I first met her, I was, I did not think that because I was

so much like, oh, you're a pro already. Like, you're a working queen. You don't even need to be on the show. Really? Which anyone could. But then when that thing started going around about how Rue went incognito to her show and tipped her $100, I was like, oh, she's on and she wins. Yeah.

I mean, the first night, oh my God, this goes back to Katagate. My first time I ever saw Bob the Drag Queen was the night of Katagate. Oh, right. I remember leaving Barracuda. I came and met you guys after. Yeah, and then Oscar Montoya was in town. We already knew Bob then, right? Yeah, we'd already gone to Bob shows.

Just from twins. We would go after so much for twins and we stayed and Bob was our favorite. And we had Monday nights sometimes. A year and a half ago or two years ago. And he came as Chris. But then also we came with Mateo one time to Bob and then Mateo and bob knew each other back

in carolines and that sort of then it became like a oh let's like let's swap numbers and we'll be friends oh i have a funny story about my name came to twins yes so last night at the crowning um so like some someone on the red carpet dropped out so they had they called mateo to like get him to come down like logo called his manager to get him to come down. And then Mateo got me and Henry Kapurski tickets. And so we rushed down there. And then afterwards we meet up with Mateo after the crowning. And he tells us that I'm tired. I have to go home.

Well, we all left together. Oh my God. No, stop it. I'm sorry. I didn't even mean, this was an instance where Mateo was like,

Mateo was on the top balcony and we were chatting all night, like from across levels. First of all, Josh is jacking Aaron off. Just over the pant. Like, F on mine. Come on, I'm in my home. We are still shirtless.

Speaking of which, Matteo was interviewing Bob and Kim Chi and Bob, I guess, has a huge crush on Matteo. How could you not? How strange. Bob one time posted a, like a fan art that a fan art thing that Mateo drew for him. And then the caption was, God,

why is Mateo Lane both so talented and so sexy? It's not fair. Wow. So then on the red carpet last night, Bob made Mateo take his shirt off. Good. And then Kim went up to, and then when Mateo interviewed Kim,

he put his shirt back on, but Kim was like, wait, if you took your shirt off for Bob, you're taking your shirt off for me. And so he's like, fine, okay. And very willingly takes off his shirt. Really yanking his chain.

Yeah. Well, no, he owned up to it. He's like, no, I loved it. He was like, can I just say, Bob has the best grinder joke of all of the grinder jokes. Have any of you seen Bob on Grindr? No, never. This is a joke, I read it,

and I didn't even get it the first time. Bob's profile just says, look at the stage. And then a bunch of exclamation points. Because it's just like if you're checking it at her show and you see her. Oh my God. That's funny. That's so funny. And it just says, look at the stage.

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Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. But wait, Kim then took the... So then Kim made Matteo take a shot, and then Bob ran back, grabbed Matteo's shirt, and threw it across the room. I love that. Good.

Love that from Kim. Amazing. I think Kim is so funny. Me too. She is truly funny. I told you guys this, but this is my Kim story. So last,

so Kim released, so it's become tradition now that all of the top three queens release singles the night of the coronation. Naomi did not though. Naomi did not, but in years past,

I mean last year, all three of them had a single out, The Night Of, which is fucking obnoxious. So Bob released Purse first yesterday, and then Naomi did not, but Kim released a single, a troll single called Single. And the cover is Britney Spears

Hit Me Baby One More Time, like, in that stupid pose, but with Kim Chi's face, like, grafted on it. And then, it's a disgusting piece of trash song that like is just a troll song and then when kim when kim came out last night um people were cheering but then there was a silent moment then i just yelled i was like two i was like two rows down uh and i was like single is the best song of all time and then kim laughs smiles points at me and goes i like you and it was very special what do you think it would have been like in that room if kim had won people or naomi

if naomi had won people would have been shocked but people were out there for kim it was that's good it was splitty evenly between like bob lovers and kim lovers and even the kim lovers were a little more vocal it was it was only because home turf for Bob Kim was very popular because even at that one we were at you weren't there before but um I mean Bob the one we were at was like totally pro Bob but there were still there was like a Kim cheer that surprised me I was like whoa like I didn't think it would be silent but it was like and who's here for Kim Chi it was like I was like damn a lot of people i love kim chi interestingly on record and sad me too i love one of my favorite ever suggest all stars three yeah yeah i don't know who who out of this season is getting on all stars three i think kim

they chi chi you could make a case for naomi chi chi you could make a case for thorgy for sure but even like a derrick or a rob Robbie could get on an All-Stars. If Robbie or Derek gets on, I think Derek's done with All-Stars. With Drag Race. I think Derek got better at what she does and her face is beat. I think Naomi could be done with

Drag Race. For sure. Like you said, Naomi is walking. She's gonna walk runways. Is she actually gonna walk runways? She's gotten booked for Fashion Week. Naomi's the fucking best. she wants week naomi's the she wants to be a model she wants to be a run like rupaul wow yeah so that's amazing i think everyone finds what he's on all-stars three yeah i think chichi devane could be very good kennedy davenport's not on all that's what that's the one name i'm pearl i'm surprised because she was such a popular quote-unquote contestant. But Kennedy, I think that's someone that was snubbed

for All-Stars 2. I guess they did. Wait, were you going to do... Oh, I could list. We can try and list who's all... Sure, let's do it. Wasn't that disgusting? All-Stars 2.

I'll keep a tally. So I can go just backwards by the seasons because it's easier. So it's Katya and Ginger. Then it's Adore. And then it's a shitload of season five. So it's Roxy, Alaska, Detox, Alyssa, and Coco. Then it's Tatiana and Fifi.

Fifi. Whoa. Is what I have heard. It's so crazy because with that list, I can't even begin to say who'll be out first and who'll be there at the end. I think Alaska's a sure thing to be there at the end. I think Alaska wins.

Do they know that? No, no, they don't. I think Alyssa Edwards could win. I think it's like a Chad Michaels where RuPaul's like, oops, I feel bad. Alaska is the most famous queen from drag race like maybe even more than sharon more than beyond just certainly more than yeah i don't i don't think that's true yeah alaska's huge i don't think she's bigger than bianca i think she has more online followers

let's find out how do you think that roxy andrews is gonna do on all stars just depends on how early the fashion stuff is yeah because if it's early on then she'll go far and then it's like then you can kind of depends i'm excited for tatiana yeah because that was so long ago and she was a different show it's a different show yeah so yes yeah wait what's yes tatiana different show i think that coco will be out very early i would i would bet coco and ginger i know we have a bias against Ginger. And honestly, I'm sure she's a lovely person. But I just, I don't see her

where she's like, I'm a comedy queen against those queens. Right. No, no, no. She does not stack up to them. I have some Ginger tea, but I won't share it. I said the Ginger tea is pretty I mean, I had heard that like Ginger when she taped the show was going through a divorce. Oh, so that sucks.

So she's going to be like sad. So she's going to be really sad. And they're going to work that into the edit, which I think is kind of shitty. Are they really? Alaska has 120,000 less followers than Bianca. Okay, there you go. But I do think Alaska is,

when they did the, and this is just wow reports, but everybody voted. This was pre season seven and they're like, here's your top 25 Queens of all time. Alaska and Adore were one and two and

number one. Yeah, a bit pre season seven pre seven, but right after she'd won. Yeah, but beyond two or it hadn't done the special but I mean, yeah, has had no time, but Bianca was a door like I can't had no time. But Bianca was Adore, like, I can't say Adore, was well, like, everyone loves Bianca. Oh, I agree.

But I mean, you need to give her a little breath. But Adore was number one. Yeah, she was. Right, and she was her season two. I think Adore is extremely popular amongst the audience. However, I don't think she's going to be adaptable enough in that group. I don't see Adore, because of the fashion, I don't see her winning it. Yeah.able enough in that group. I don't see a door because of the fashion.

I don't see her winning it. Yeah. It's also as a queen, the way that she has developed and the way that she actually works. She doesn't care. She doesn't cincher waist. No, she wears a t-shirt rock track. Yeah, which is so cool. But that show doesn't allow it.

It's not going to stack up on that show. It isn't going to read on this. I love this i think that um alissa this is alissa could do really well i think alaska will do very well i don't i don't i agree with you i think it's alaska's to lose but i think alissa will be a contender and i think katya could go far but also katya's like she is weirder she's weird and i love her and i think she could win too but i do think i I just think it's Alaska's to live. Yeah, I feel so bad

for what I used to think of Trixie because Trixie is grown on me. I love Trixie now and I hated Trixie. Have you watched the have you watched her thing with Katya? Watch it. Yeah, I've seen it a couple times. I mean, I think she's so fun. She's not your favorite. It's very I actually I don't love her but I have to say I

really don't like her makeup. Well, I i really don't like her makeup well i still really have issues with her look oh so some more tea from the finale is that tricksy called out acid betty for that untucked moment and it was like not cute like it wasn't a cute call out and asked betty like had to defend herself and it was like kind of long and this unnamed source that i know that was at the finale said it was sort of like the moment of the finale like it was like kind of long and this unnamed source that i know that was at the finale said it was sort of like the moment of the finale like it was like it was big but i think they cut it because they're just trying to be positive and also probably i don't know how you're getting that thing down to a snippet because those those things with the queens asking questions like but they ripped on fifi and the but anyway acid betty in an episode of untucked when

kim chi was getting a emotional video from home and It was so rude, and I liked it. And she kept talking shit about Trixie, right? She's like, her makeup, though. Oh, Jesus Christ. Get her out of here. Worst queen in all of Drag Race history. Shit like that, which is like, she was just being shady fun, but it was like, this is her emotional moment.

Let her watch the goddamn thing. It was one thing to say it. It was literally like she was talking over the video. We get it. Then, however, though, I have seen pictures of them together, Trixie and Acid post that thing, and they look like they're having fun, but maybe it's just like photo op.

So I think maybe she just did call her out, and it was a big moment of the taping. Yeah. I think that Trixie Mattel, actually, I would put in the Pandora box area of being one of the most severely overrated queens in the history of Dragon's High. I used to think that,

but then Josh and I sort of came around to her. I've come around on her, but I guess I didn't know how well regarded Trixie really was. I mean, I remember there was a save Trixie thing. Trixie is extremely popular, and there's a reason why she was brought back, and there was an uproar after she got voted out, but then she was brought back, and it was the same thing

that you saw with Naysha, which is like, okay, cool, you brought back someone mediocre. I did not like tricksy on the program and now i have liked her because of the world of wonder youtube channel um she has a show with katya and i have liked it a lot and i have come around on her i still don't love her makeup but i think she is just like i don't love makeup like i'm like i i'm making fun of drag right which i get it's not my favorite thing but um cosine i also think and i feel terrible i think pandora's overrated i think she's wildly overrated shitty attitude i will say about trixie's not a nation at all because it was like at least a queen

who had a couple weeks to like show what she could do and then go home and then be brought back for another chance nation made no sense she looked so amazing here's the thing about nisha is like honestly it was such a dumb bring back i would have rather yeah but i mean like it was such a stupid bring back because it's like we don't know anything about this person why do any of us care i still would have rather seen more nation looks on the runway than robbie turner i think robbie turner actually is for sure the worst queens on the runway in the history of drag that league of their own runway was i was blasphemous. You know what I like?

You can come out there and toss a ball without a mitt or a baseball bat. You're just going to toss the ball up and down and you're just going to buy the costume from Halloween Adventure. Raja at the finale in Madonna was so incredible. I loved that. What a read.

Such a fun read. Oh, so good. I loved. You know what? Bob's win just somehow felt much more meaningful to me, especially after all the winners walked down. And I was like, Bob is in that legacy and she belongs.

She belongs. And I were talking earlier that there was this thing sometimes of like, there's never been a queen like kimchi. And that's why people were mad. It's like, there's never been. And I'm like, there's never been a queen like Bob.

Anybody who tries to say she's a Biancaca i'm like well no they're both comedy queens she's so much funnier and then also the aforementioned like what she's trying to do with it and then the same token like there've been look queens before too like raja was a look queen and violet but raja was even like an avant-garde look queen like kim but they're not the same at all i'm not i'm not saying this to like denigrate either. I'm just saying Bob is as close to Bianca as Kim Chi is to Raja, which is not at all. Did you guys watch the Rolodex of Hate? No.

No, I heard that was bad. It is so bad. So I have to say, I saw Bianca live one time, and it was a horrible room. And she was very funny with all of her... I think she's truly a good off the cuff insult improv comic and when her like written material feels a little hacky maybe yeah and racist i have seen just like so tasteless and like because she's not just trying she's going

she's not doing a don rickles thing she's like doing don rickles sometimes when it's like oh yeah don rickles wouldn't work in a room these days yeah you know um and like a joan rivers thing right was very like right racist and pushing envelope stuff i saw i saw joan rivers you stand up when i was a freshman in college i was on a date with a girl and we went down to the down to the east village she was like honestly at this point had to be like i guess 88 years old or something and she had her like huge like pieces of poster board taped to the stage and she was like still trying out new material but the majority of the new material was like all like really really unearned 9-11 jokes yeah and it was like really tough i will okay i'll say this about

bianca and bob the difference between bianca and bob to me is um i won't i won't get into this but i got dinner with you guys know i got dinner with thorgy at dragon and just hanging out with her and i'm sure you guys got this sense hanging out with bob i feel like they're both like they're both like our people like i don't know just in here and watching the two of them interview each other in these like logo videos where like they're back to the rehearsal they're just talking and like having this great conversation that is so engaging i'm like oh like they're they're like they're like our sensibility and like they like they're like new york-based like performers and i don't know like there's some shared commonality in that yeah and so watching them it just it's very meaningful i got very emotional last night watching bob cry as soon

as like the crown was pinned her head i was like oh my god you've watched the um uh the video what's it called when they see it live no i haven't seen it oh it just went on today bob has a hilarious line oh where bob starts to cry and back and they're like you're ruining your makeup and bob goes i ruined it the second i painted it on i was looking for that it was ruined as soon as i got it how do the other two react um kim chi is like immediately like you deserve this you deserve this like in a nice way with a tinge of like you're like you need to say these things maybe i don't know i might be reading into it it's also very nice it doesn't read as shady but she's just immediately being like very complimentary and naomi i think because probably naomi and bob i believe got to be well kim and actual friends kim and naomi are extremely best

friends and naomi was just more like squeezing bob's hand and giving her kisses and being like girl come on you knew this i love it um but but oh but then i read this you were talking about this like what bob is gonna do with the yeah it's a mantle i'm gonna give a million dollars to charity right and then there was this interview that came out in entertainment weekly that someone just posted and like at the end he just goes like someone asks him or was it new york magazine this is an vulture someone asks him uh well what's next for drag and he goes whenever people ask me that question i think nothing's like i love the way drag is now like whatever's next is just going to be like whatever happens it's already changed so much in the last

five years like let's just be go along for the ride i don't want to forecast too much because i already think it's perfect. It's like such a perfect, pure art form. It is a really good time. I think that's so true. Anyway, I love Bob.

I also, I do want to say, um, just really quickly in defense of Bianca Del Rio. I've heard a lot of people now because Bob is winning and Bob supporters throwing Bianca under the bus and like calling her shit. I have to say, Bianca is such a true queen.

Fantastic. And I love her. One of the true winners. And I think just because her style of comedy is different and we're all basement comedians and she is more like doing a Joan Rivers, John Rickles, which is more like for all in America.

I feel like just doesn't, just because it's not your exact brand. Doesn't mean she's not a fucking queen. I do still just think Bob's funnier than Bianca. Despite style. You agree with her sensibility more. I think Bob would kill in all of America just like Bianca could.

Because Bob can do crowd work. I'm just saying you like Bob more, but Bianca is as funny if that's your taste. It's like a subjective taste. I don't think it's like a Ginger versus Bob. I guess what I'm saying is I think Bob can play more comedic styles. it's like a subjective taste i don't think i don't think it's like a ginger versus bob like i know you're not i guess what i'm saying is i think bob is more like can play more comedic styles it's like more expansively funny not doing one stick this is what i'm saying i'm being a bianca

apologist but i feel like she's getting a lot of attack and she's being called but i'm saying she's very very funny i'm not saying she's not funny i do think bob is funnier yeah but that is subjective watch her warm up the crowd for the coronation last year she killed she's so funny yeah she's not funny i do think bob is funnier yeah but that is subjective watch her warm up the crowd for the coronation last year she killed she's so funny yeah she's so funny she's truly so funny and you like bob better as do i but i don't like this weird thing it's like bob's funnier he's the funnier one looks like to you bianca is so funny i think there's a lot of weird negative bianca she's a new york queen just Bob. They're dear friends. They love to perform together and they will for all time. We don't have to shit on one to lift

the other up. Wow. I would also say that Bianca gives it as good as she gets it. Can take it. She is a mean girl. That's how that's the game that she plays. Sometimes when I look back on Bianca in her season in Untucked i think she

was pushing buttons that didn't necessarily need to be pushed i think they create a great tv i feel very attacked i mean thank you for that god but she was very vicious and i think that it was this weird dichotomy but with bianca like depending on who she really liked or not or thought it was advantageous to be nice to like adore who she knew was you know had her shit more figured out than Laganja I just don't like the whole I think Laganja if you look back at that

season was very clearly having an anxiety attack for three weeks but I can understand not to now I'm fully defending Bianca for attacking someone but I do understand how they have to live with and she's like 37 and that girl's like 22. And they're hardly getting any sleep. And she's like,

I don't like you. And you're being like, stop yelling at me. And you're like, I'm going to yell at you a lot because you're being an idiot. And I'm not trying to shit on Laganja cause I've listened to her. What's the tea? And I like really came around.

I came around to her too. But, um, I just think it's like the, the pressure they're under. And, and I think Bob on his season had a lot of like Gia Guns, Laganja's, like a lot of, I mean, not Bob, I'm sorry,

Bianca, where you're like, ay, ay, ay. Whereas like this season, everyone seemed a little bit more like, even the ones we don't like, like Robbie, they all like her. So it's like- Aaron's just saying you have to kill the week. Stop. I have- Oh, honey, I'm a Darwinist.

I have a question to bring to the table that i believe we've not discussed on text threads or the facebook.com wow can i say this you're this is a quad uh of quad of people that have quite the text thread we're hashing this out in person for the first time well and this is a question i haven't really thought about until this moment but my question is right i mean rupaul right now hardly wants to be in drag ever yeah right how much longer does this show last like how much longer does rupaul want to still have to be rupaul doing this and do is there ever a point when she's not doing it anymore and it still continues i think she said it will go for a long time but do you think that's so far in the future that she'll do it for 10 years at least

and so it's not even a question worth considering? She, I do not think the show will go on with her. It's called RuPaul's Drag Race. I don't think it would be like, and now Michelle's the main judge. Like, I don't think you can do it without a drag queen at the helm. And she truly is.

It's like, could Lady Bunny take over? I don't think so. But at this point, there'd be another. I mean, this is years in the future. Like Bianca or Bob could take over. Yeah, I just don't see it because it's like she is bob the drag race yeah i think rue was the and still is the most successful she came from a different era and then created a whole new right well and how we

we've talked about like my parents have never heard of bob the drag queen but my parents have heard of rupaul and like everybody knows who they don't know about her stuff and they're not fans of her but they know who RuPaul is. It is amazing everybody knows RuPaul. She's a cheat that like there is no drag queen like that. So I think it's sort of like I can't go on without her because you need the like who's

the drag queen. It's RuPaul. Right and there never will be another drag queen because now there's a market for being the drag queen. And it's still not the same that RuPaul is. My parents have no idea who Bianca Del Rio is. No, that's what I mean because why would they care? It's like a niche. There's tons of them now.

But no one's broken into mate. RuPaul was on TV as RuPaul in Sabrina the Teenage Witch or had her own talk show or was in magazines walking the runway. It's like she was truly in culture in a way that all our drag queens that we love are still in the fringes of culture it's still this very insular but again i wonder if that has to do with like at that time that truly being such a novelty thing which now it's like that would not be as big of a novelty thing i think it's still novelty to have a like a drag queen on a on a tgif show. Yeah. Yeah.

Sabrina. Like that would be... Was RuPaul on Sabrina? Yeah. She plays a hairdresser and then she like transforms. She's a witch too. Yeah. She plays a witch.

But I guess I'm saying she got sucked into culture because she was the first drag queen to make any waves. And now like having a drag queen on would be... I guess after Divine. There's always been drag queens

but she became like... She was in magazines and modeled. Like, she was accepted by mainstream culture. I'll always remember RuPaul in the Brady Bunch movies. So good. And Jan, you better work. Like, that's insane. So then is the drag race culture at all

creating sort of this niche thing where people can't break out as much? Because now there's just this little hamster wheel for you to run. I mean, not really because Shangela has many TV credits. Yeah. I mean, who else? Or as in drag?

In drag. Well, like what? I believe you. I just have no clue. Cocktails and classic movies or something. It used to be on Logo. I mean, Willem. Yeah, but Willem was like a boy famous before. Yeah, yeah. Is he boy famous? No, but like worked as a boy in TV all the time oh i didn't know that have you watched season four that's all i actually haven't seen season four oh girl that's

all willem talks about is being an actor anytime they do anything it's like well yeah i've been on hawaii 50 or something i was i would have thought she was on it as a as a drag queen no no no way boy all right should we get into i don't Think So Honey? All right. So listen, and I actually want to do something a little different with I Don't Think So Honey. All right. I want it to be

I Don't Think So Honey and you can pick your I Don't Think So Honey is any queen that's ever been on RuPaul's Drag Race. And you got to come for somebody

for one moment. Okay. That's good. Oh my God. So who goes first? Who does go first? Does anyone really not like someone?

I really... I feel like we all don't like Ginger. I mean, yeah, that would just be one big... Shit fest. Shit post. I want to go for one that's popular. You want to flip the table.

But I like a lot of the popular ones. But what if we all try to do that as an exercise? Like pick someone popular and just go for everyone you like. how about this i like this we will we'll go in a circle and we have to pick someone for you i like oh good so yeah i wish we could like draw names you haven't seen season four so we can't no i could still do it let me give you one okay manila luzon and i have to and i have to go for her you have to come from manila luzon does that make sense because i like manila luzon because i hate manila luzon and i know you should do manila you hate manila luzon i think i think which shouldn't be put upon you i think you should ask yourself the question who's the queen that you sort of like even if you don't hate but you

have critical things to say about who is also the most popular like make that marriage you don't like manila luzon shocks me and i'm gonna put on the clock right now ready and i don't think so honey go i don't think so honey manila luzon you know why you are you are an asian minstrel excuse my use of that word um i you know you ain't asian minstrel just that what whatever the fuck that filipino lady was that she played on snatch game like i don't even know if that was authentic or like a good impression but like honey that was atrocious and you it was not the kimmy jung un thing like that was there was a comment overlaid on top of that which was fun and it was a nice easy sort of fallback for kim to be on but for for manila no way and then by the end when they did the whole like uh there was one performance challenge i

forget in season three but she butchered it raja rocked it i think alexis even rocked it jara sophia rocked it manila no way was a weak link the entire season her only shining moment was lip-syncing to what that fucking that that one song that um that macarthur park macarthur park and that was her only good moment and it was against delta work and so of course she's gonna look amazing lip-syncing next to delta work who couldn't even emote for shit so i don't think so honey manila luzon you are not that great of a queen that's one minute one minute very good wow now i would maybe and again we've now already shit on the screen but she's very popular and i hated her from the beginning i would i would pearl if you want pearl oh i mean just like pearl from the beginning jaw sharp and go okay pearl Sharp, and go. Okay, Pearl, I don't think so, honey. You've never brought

anything good. You cannot do one thing well. Guy Branum says the litmus test of a good drag queen is do you want to watch them host bingo?

Pearl, I do not even want to watch play bingo. Wow. I do not even, you bring nothing. I used to say in season seven, it was like,

please, pull up some porn on your phone while Drag Race is going on. Pearl then will not be hot enough as a boy to be worth being on TV because that's the only reason she was like please pull up some porn on your phone while drag race is going on pearl then will not be hot enough as a boy to be worth being on tv because that's the only reason she was like inside of that sphere you were like i get a half a chub so i'm interested she cannot do a thing we're

rewarding her now for being guarded about a personal life i do not even believe that was a choice i believe she has nothing to say about anything including herself now she djs i'm sure she can't even crossfade i bet she has an itunes playlist and you hear her when she turns up the volume on her mic i am positive that that happens also did you see that look people like from drag con where she just wore the like star wars dreads who cares like just because you bought four foot of yarn that and nobody gives a shit pearl i don't think so honey that's one minute masterful what that's masterful i don't think so honey i don't know who to go for you know what i have one okay you go you

go okay but we wanted to be a popular queen no you can do one you don't i think do you want to throw it by us and who is it he's right hit the button and clock is starting i don't think so honey dax exclamation point because i've seen somebody dressed up a storm her name was hallie Hit the button. And clock is starting. I don't think so, honey. Dax! Because I've seen somebody dressed up as Storm. Her name was Halle Berry, bitch. And she did it better than you ever could. And guess what? She had the special effects to come with her.

How about this? If you're going to come in, honey, and you're going to be coming in as a magic queen, a nerd queen, have some magic. Do your thing. Send some time at the Magic Castle with Neil Patrick Harris and his husband and his husband and his two kids which by the way they're both blonde so you know which sperm took neil patrick harris i don't think so honey random genetic tests listen dax you have a problem you can't even sing i will survive i literally walked into the market the other day and i heard i will survive came on i

knew every goddamn word you're an embarrassment and honestly i hated that they sent home layla mcqueen as well because you know what you have to judge it as you see it honey and that was a hallie berry ass fake ass second rate bitch who couldn't even sing i will survive and you know what you didn't survive and you'll never survive you know what i don't think so that's one minute just walking into the market also have some more um reunion tea during the reunion um he kept ru kept calling layla mcqueen lila mcqueen the whole time and then they had to re-record they were all gone and ru had to stay and re-record oh my god because he called her lila the whole time and um that's why like that she doesn't get that much and she's also like

like making weird faces all the time because it's like her name's being mispronounced yeah but how about layla mcqueen like being like the featured guest of purse first they all love her she's supposedly so apparently she's like a fun hot mess and they all say she's actually very fun but she's also a hot mess so it's like if that's your stick sometimes that's not gonna translate onto tv i totally believe she's probably better than the show indicated but i don't think she's good but i would woo aaron if you want to go for ginger i think you can elevate it yeah i think you'll do it's just hard because we've all like i've written jokes with people in this room about ginger so it just feels hard.

But I would love to listen to them again. Push into the id. Really let the brain go. See what, you know. All right, ready? Ready for the clock. Say something racist. I use my id when I do this.

I first want to apologize for speaking ill of anyone. Here we go. One minute on the clock starting now. I don't think so, honey. Ginger Minj, you walk in. You say you're a comedy queen. You said not one funny joke your jokes were laffy taffy the only good joke you ever had was when you were that cow and you talked

about like i want to grow up and be made a leather purse because that's drag that's the versus your other jokes were like and move over honey and that is laffy taffy you have to push honey and you were not pushing you were drawing on your head with a sharpie honey i don't think so honey i saw you on some random wow wonder um youtube show and you looked green in the face like you were about to vomit your makeup was terrible i don't think so honey you were a smoke loved by gay people everywhere and i do not get it i got in a fight with a bar about how violet was better than you and i really would have punched the guy in the face. I didn't understand anything. I was like, she was not funny. Violet was so good.

I don't think so, honey. You were bad at fashion. You were bad at comedy. Your singing was okay. It honestly was okay. But you were a whiner. You were a diner. I got to get out of you.

I don't think so, honey. I never want to see you again. One minute. I loved it. Poor Ginger. It's too easy. I will say, I'm going to come for you about attacking

her fashion. She was so fashion was bad. It might have been a little basic. It wasn't bad. It was bad.

She it wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't nation Lopez in a barrel corset. Well, that's what I

was about to say. She just looked like a plain average track, but when she had to make

her own shit, it was maybe I'm forgetting because that's not what she said. That was really bad when they had the tits together that was her nude illusion no thanks oh no bad illusion terrible didn't she do good at the half man half woman though everyone did everyone did that what that was kind of annoying because it's like no one's

gonna do that badly i mean the only reason i would have thought they gave them clothes for that only reason that was a thing was so that pearl could just keep surviving i think yes like here's a man it's like dude we gotta capitalize on the fact that this is a hot fucking dude yeah i don't think they made them so men's clothing which is hard to do for fashion designers into a dress i don't think i think they were given i didn't know for a lot of those challenges they're given a garment yeah or wigs even for those like side I was like Thorgy said during the Empire challenge they gave them like wigs so her wig was falling here's a question

if you put all the Miss congenialities in a drag race together who wins Latrice Latrice it's Ben de la creme Latrice Katya Cynthia Lee Fontaine Pand Pandora Box, Alexis Mateo.

And who was last year? No, no, no. Yara Sofia. Oh, Yara Sofia. I'm so sorry. I got it mixed up. Yeah. And wasn't JoJo B. Miss Congeniality?

Latrice, for sure. Pandora. Pandora? Yeah. And did they do Miss Congeniality season one? I don't know. Was it Nina Flowers? Oh, it was Nina Flowers.

Nina Flowers. And then, wait, did we skip one oh Ivy Winters right I think Ivy Winters does well in that competition Latrice wins Latrice could have won the show honestly think that's the weirdest not in the final three of any for sure

much weirder than Chi Chi totally Latrice could have won it just depends on how strong the season is i think i think latrice maybe wins against um violet tchotchke yes it just depends because that i love violet but that was her season to win i just literally involuntarily pictured latrice eating violet cool that's a good image should we move on to culture of the week? I think it's time for culture of the week. All right.

No, for casual viewers, listeners, um, culture of the week is, I need a reminder. Actually. Yeah.

Culture of the week is actually a really, um, it's where we really dive deep into the reaches of culture. And we, we, we swim out there and we swim down, um, and we grab the shell.

That is our favorite piece of culture. We get back up to the surface. We have the shell over the water and we say this to the sky. We apply new criticism. The sun beats down on the shell and it shines and everyone on land can see it.

I love this imagery. I get it now. We're going to do that with culture now and i don't know bowen do you have an idea of what your favorite culture this week is i do and um you know what i'll keep it i'll keep it short okay bitch but um it's gotta be the line the line for it's a small world because you're seeing a huge part of the ride i'm sorry you can see so much of the ride while you're on the line. Exactly.

Yeah, I love that. And you're really mentally preparing yourself for what visually is in store for you. And you're getting a lot of culture. You're getting a lot of culture. Literal culture from around the world. You start off with what? Scandinavia? No.

Okay. Well, you know what? I'm just going to say it's some nondescript european people are in over overalls and like little hats with feathers it's beautiful and how does the song go it's a world of laughter a world of tears a world of something a world of fears world of wonder maybe world of wonder it's a small world after all they need to re-record the song i think just with me doing it you know i bet for any reason it's a small world i think one of them has a starlet yes like on the disney channel like imagination station right yeah here's tina luana tina luana piece of shit 12 year old actually aaron has such a gift for naming

characters absolutely this is this is literally the first time we ever met and you don't remember this but we did the rug show oh i remember the show and we were placed on the same team we were did remember we were in a car together we were in a car together and we were doing a scene where you had like picked me up off the internet or something. Yeah. And I eventually was like, what's your name? And he goes, my name's Trask. And I was like, and then it was a quick edit. I think like Pat Regan edited.

Oh, thank God. Was that really the first time we met? That was the first time. I knew you before that. Well, I knew you because. You're a legacy, edited. Oh, thank God. Was that really the first time we met? That was the first time. I knew you before that. Well, I knew you because. You're a legacy, Doc. Legacy, famously. Did we first meet at Story Pirates?

We first met at Story Pirates Cotillion. No, that's not true. You guys first met that night we went out to the club. No, that's not when we first met. That was two nights later. That was after we knew each other at Story Pirates. Oh, got it, got it. But at Cotillion or at training?

I met you at Cotillion. Not at, because you. Because I wasn't in your year i was the year after you were sorry josh and i famously were the same year and then we met at cotillion and yes i knew i had known you years prior because bowen's so popular upon entering i thought he was an old pirate that is not true yes yes i remember you came in the room and you were late i was late and and everybody like cheered and stuff and people knew you. And I was like, oh, I guess he's an old pirate here for a trainer. Wow.

Aaron, I used to watch in cage match years ago with his team, Boy Butter. I love Boy Butter. Because he was on a team with David Cetera. And Alexis Pereira. Yes. Love David. Oh, my God. Alexis Pereira was on that team?

Yes. Riley Salen. Riley Salen. Elena Chumalov-Maluski. Love the legends. Matt, what's your culture of the week? Oh, my culture of the week. Oh, right.

Well, I've really been thinking about it, and I think that my culture of the week is actually the restaurant in Pirates of the Caribbean that you can sit at and watch as the boats go by. Love that. The reason I love this is... This is at Disneyland and not Disney World. Correct.

Yeah. Anaheim, honey. Anaheim, honey. Yeah. You know, Anaheim, honey. Anaheim. Anaheim, honey. Everyone, when you visit Anaheim, you have to go to Disneyland. You have to. I like it because I like to... We know you're visiting Anaheim.

We know you're there, girl. When you do, girl. I love two things. Eating and anticipation. And... Oh my God, that's totally what... Stop! You went too far with that one.

We might really have to edit that out. I think some of that was on the mic. I didn't even say it out loud. You didn't. We really might have to edit that out. Oh my God. This sense of... All right. Anyway, no. I just want to talk about this restaurant

because it is my time. So I just want to make sure that I get my time. I remember I had a really good meal there. I ate something called a Bayou Burger or whatever. I sat there. It's really nice. And I really enjoyed it. Who fucking cares?

Who fucking cares? Who fucking cares? You cannot get your life. You can't even get your life right now. You can't even get your life, sweetie. Sweetie, you cannot get your life. You can't even get your life enough time to let me sit here and do my fucking segment. Honey, I was passing the baton.

You had passed it and then I had it and then you don't take it back. That's not how relay works, bitch. Honey, I was throwing it to you, honey. I i was giving you don't you don't throw the relay baton you pass it you know what that's enough of that i think that's i think it's clear that you can't even get your life not if you have been not even a hand it's you like a relay baton you drop that i'm not the one calling for edits calling for things to be cut out of this episode I feel very attacked

oh my god they're totally Bianca and Laganja Estranja don't tell him he's Bianca go right to his head can I say I have a memory about that restaurant is this your culture of the week no this is just a quick comment

I would ride that ride and always hear the forks and knives clinking Is this your culture of the week? No, this is just a quick comment. Extend your memory to us. I would ride that ride and always hear the forks and knives clinking. And when before you go down the drop and I was like, that restaurant is everything and wanted to go for years. And then we got to go when I was like 10 and truly was like, I was at per se. It was like, I was there. Anaheim, honey. Did you go to were you a disney kid

i didn't go all the time but i went conservative radio host he's like he's hunked over um i went a bunch of times not a bunch of times but we oh i go twice a year yeah i wasn't like that i loved disney to this day no i love it. And you know what? Your series... Oh, my God. You know what would be so fun?

The spinoff. As if we all go. I would love to. We had to film... It was an honor to be a part of that canon. Legacy. I'm so thrilled that you would want to be involved. Please check out Four Nights in Orlando

and One Night in Anaheim. And then there's Two Nights in Miami. At Ozzie Moe. At Henry Kapurski. Henry Kapzzy moe henry kapurski really good of course all right so uh aaron your culture of the week and it should be anything anything whatever you want um i'll have to say my true culture of the week i guess i'll just give it to reality tv because wow it's been the drag race finale which i don't know if any of you listening caught that but the drag race finale was which I don't know if any of you listening caught that,

but the Drag Race finale was this week. And also the- That's our most niche episode yet. Also the Survivor finale is Wednesday. And I know no one cares about that, but anyone who knows me is, I am a huge Survivor fan. Have you been talking to my friend Blair Beacon

and yours online? Yes. She loves it. Yes, I have. You guys communicate on the Facebook.com? Yes. And oh my God, I have- Sometimes I tag you in her posts.

I have some stuff that I cannot say on the mic about next season of Survivor. We know someone on next season of Survivor. What? We'll tell you. You know her. Or him. Or him. It's her or him.

Oh my God. So my culture of the week is reality TV. Thank you, Survivor. Love it. More importantly, thank you, Drag is reality tv thank you survivor love it more importantly thank you drag race but thank you finale thank you finale never we'll never forget richard hatch versus kelly wigglesworth oh that was so good that is true iconic we'll never forget colby donaldson versus tina wesson oh my god so in high school we all i had 16 friends we all picked someone before the season started and would light candles. And then the end of every episode, blow it out.

And I was Colby. So I made it all the way to the finale. Oh my God. It was huge. Also, you know what? Never forget Vesepia Towery. Rule number 100 of culture. The most forgettable winner.

Never forget Vesepia Towery. Literally Vesepia Towery forgot Vesepia Towery until you just said her name. She woke up from a bunch of sand. I'm about to be, like, take or leave this, but I remember no one could figure out why Vesepia had won.

Like, even she was, like, clueless. Like, it was like she won and everyone was like, what? I remember they all had to go and, like, talk about the, like, feelings they had and she was like, I just learned, like, don't throw away the end of a piece of,

end of a loaf of bread. Yeah. I was then then then they they were like vasepia talk to us about your strategy and she was like well um there were times when i i would you know mix it up a little bit and you gotta do that you gotta mix it up and i was i would make people think they were a leader and and they were and then i won oh it was early survivor matt you offered me the choices to take it or leave it and i'm gonna take it what you just said take it or leave it i'm gonna take it you know what i'm gonna take from you and i'm gonna demand from you is your culture of the week oh yes well guys james blake's new album i really do think is a full realization of what he does it's not as

it's vast some people think there's too much to it but every song to me really is like hitting the spots that I think he should be but that's not my

culture of the week I would say when you're on Soarin' California by the way being turned into Soarin' over the world well let me just tell you quick before it changes

one fun thing to do is go in there with a golf ball in your pocket. And when you're soaring over that golf course. Hold on. Wait. Hold on. When you're soaring over that golf course.

You can't. And you see the guy. You see the guy and he's swinging that golf. You reach your hand out with a golf ball and you yell, caught it. That is fun. Do people freak the fuck out? Oh, people are laughing. You heard this from a dad.

You have not done this. They are laughing. Now, you heard this from a dad. You have not done this. They are laughing. Aaron, when you're in Anaheim. Anaheim, when you're in Anaheim, you pull the tricks out. My favorite part about Soarin' is the smell. If you're going to be in Anaheim, you better bring your tricks, too. Okay? And guess what?

You can get golf balls in Anaheim, too. They got golf balls. That's rule number 375 of culture. When you're in Anaheim, you bring your tricks. Bring your tricks. Listen, my favorite part about Soaring California is the smell of the oranges. Oh, I love the smell of the oranges. And you know, soon.

Had to remove headphones. It's going to be soaring. Not the first time. You know, I got a note from my producers that said I was too loud. And now I've been louder. I have some tea to spill about Orlando theme parks if you guys would like to. I have some tea to spill about orlando theme parks if you guys like to spill about disney world shanghai oh so okay so listen you truly are getting louder i'm getting more excited i mean closer to the microphone at the end of the day like this is what i really

always want to talk about is like what's going on in orlando i'm a big disney head oh i didn't even talk about culture that shaped me would be like that Ashman Mankin era. Oh, absolutely. 100%. Diz. Likewise. And classic Diz. Maybe we talk about it more. Ren Diz.

Renaissance Diz. So anyway. Okay. So listen. Coming soon. Like I mean soon. To Epcot. It's been being refurbished.

Oh my God. We're talking about Orlando now. We're talking about Orlando, honey. And guess what? Did it ever really make sense for Soarin' Over California to be in Epcot? No, it didn't, and you know what? The powers that be. It was Soarin' Over California in Epcot.

Yeah, in Orlando. What a terrible idea for a ride. It's a great ride. I like the ride, but it's like we're just gonna go over California. What nonsense. We were. Who cares? So basically, they're turned into sword over the world. So smart.

I love it. Love it. That's Disney. That's Disney I love. That's Disney I love. That's culture. And also that bird is, you know, flying around the whole world. It's a hang glider.

It's a condor. Also coming to Epcot. Oh, yes, girl. Here we go. Frozen Ever After. It's a flume ride, honey. That's so smart. And it places you in the world

of Frozen. In what park is this? Epcot. Orlando. In the Norway Pavilion. Norway Pavilion. Wow. There was a ride called Maelstrom, which was a retelling of the history of Norway. I had to say Epcot, which is great. It had a learning curve to her.

Okay, so... I mean, literally. Maelstrom, they had to replace it, though, because it was the story of Norway, but it was literally like, you take a flume ride into some woods, you go up a vertical thing. The abominable snowman would be there, right?

There's a three-headed troll, which sends you back. Then all of a sudden, you open out, and it's like about oil tanks. Oh. It's like it's educational or mystical mystical because it can't be both. But in Norway they do believe that shit.

That trolls control oil? No, for real. My people are Norwegian. They're big on fairies and trolls and they're like it's real. He's saying that's fine. It's the oil. But you were saying is it fantasy or is it real? To them they are real. Both of them.

That's a part of their culture. The trolls existed in the same. Okay, so you're saying that's a part of their culture. The trolls existed in the same world as the oil tankers. That is a part of their culture, Matt. I understand. I'm sorry I was wrong. You were talking about the Matterhorn with the Abominable Snowman. Oh, yes. You're right.

I conflated those. I just do remember. You did. I remember doing that because my granddad is Norwegian. He's like, we have to go on this one. I see. And you were like, thank God for this oil. This is the culture.

I want to spill one more little piece of tea over our friends over at Universal. Yes. So Skull Island. Good friends of the show. Skull Island, Reign of Kong will be opening up this summer. These are trackless.

And this is crazy. This is not in Anaheim. This is in Orlando or Los Angeles. This is in Orlando. Home of the free. Orlando, honey. Home of the free, home of the minge, home of the brave.

Yeah, minge. Home of the minge. And you know, minge free, home of the minge, home of the brave. Yeah, minge. Home of the minge. And it's so... You know, minge is going to... Ginger minge is going to be at the opening of Skull Island Reign of Kong. She's one of the skulls. She's going to be one of the... She's going to be one of the skulls.

I truly feel bad coming... I just feel bad yelling at... She was just trying to do her art. I know. And people like her. And they're allowed. Guys, what we're going to get is we're going to get 360 3D screens that

you actually move on. It's a trackless 72 person vehicle and each one, this may be four, has its own story depending on the animatronic figure that's driving. And they say the guides will get ripped out of the thing by King Kong himself.

By an animatronic hand. For herself. Thank you. The guide will be there at the beginning and then afterwards. No guide? I love that. Yes. And there's going to be a Jaws ride.

Very Jaws. It's going to be very interactive. Apparently, there's live actors in the ride. Actors. Which I always love. A live actor. Sure. I mean, you are one.

Yeah. It's good. More work for us. What's going where Jaws? Work begets more work. What's going where Jaws? Well, first of all, you are one. Yeah. It's good to have more work for us. Why is it? What's going where Jaws? Work begets more work. What's going where Jaws? Well, first of all, you know. Because I know Jaws, you wore black for a year when Jaws was cool.

I was very upset. And, you know, a couple of us have seen. You know you wanted to be a Jaws tour guide. A couple of us. I wanted to be a Jaws tour guide very badly. In fact, I need to get started. You don't understand. Matt and I have been developing a show for many years about this.

We need to get started on that. Well, yeah, throw it on stage. Developing for many years. It's real. We need to get started on that. Yeah, throw it on stage. Developing for many years. I have. We haven't really started. I have a whole six-minute bit. We've talked of it. I haven't seen it.

I do the ride. I know it. I know it. I'm off book on the ride. And I'm attached to direct. Josh is attached to direct. Thank God. It's going to be called Matt Rogers' Great Adventure.

It's deadline.com. Okay, yeah. Give it to Slate. And I'm just saying rest in peace Jaws. Yeah. But now what's happening with the Jaws ride? Well, it's fully Gringotts now.

Oh, that makes sense. But if Gringotts, I got my life on Gringotts. Yeah, but Dave Mazzone. Gringotts, so sorry, is a bank in the Harry Potter world. Yeah. Oh.

And now they've made a ride. The fun thing about the bank is to get to your safe. There's a lot going on in a goblin ride. You need to ride a dragon. Guess who's in the ride. The fun thing about the bank is to get to your safe. There's a lot going on. And a goblin. You need to ride a dragon. Guess who's in the ride. Guess who's like the main villain in the ride.

Christian Coulson. Helena Bonham Carter. Get your life. Get your life. You sure? That wasn't right. Oh my God. I loved it.

Helena Bonham Carter. That's great. And you know what's replacing Twister is The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon the Ride. That's stupid. But Twister, I didn't love Twister. So that ride lives in the world of Jurassic World.on the ride. That's stupid. I didn't love Twister. So that ride lives in the world of Jurassic World. Yes, absolutely.

They're also with a Jimmy Fallon. I have to say, I got my life at Harry Potter World, but I was so excited to ride Jurassic Park. I'd heard about it for years. There were exposed wires. Honey, move the mulch. That ride needs a refurb. A refurb. Especially with Jurassic World out. I know. tires yeah it was honey move the mulch that right that was a refer especially with jurassic world out i know i think that i think that you will see potentially with the jurassic world sequel

which is happening which i don't know what and i couldn't be more excited we saw it i'll see hardly was a story a reason for jurassic world i have a question for you guys and honestly i understand that we need to end this but this is something I feel really strongly about because I was very conflicted and Sudi and I when we saw this we turned to each other and said what Jurassic World Jurassic World the scene don't come for my girl Lapkus no I'm not

she truly was the best part my dad said that he didn't know who she was when I was explaining he was like oh that was the best part of the movie was her little laugh line I agree dad famously we took to see Sashir Zameda do stand-up. Don't say that. I'm lying. Okay, I won't. About our friend. Well, he saw

Sashir Zameda do stand-up. That's what I wanted to say. He thought it was slow. But you already said it. Oh, I said it. We took her. You knew we were going for it. I ran into Sashir Zameda today at an audition and she's well yeah i love to share my dad loves to share my dad loves live comedy love like as

soon as you said not to say it i wasn't gonna finish it but you knew there was gonna be a nag has he been concerned about the nags at all this whole time yeah neither of you can get your i feel aaron and i are very attacked did you not edit this thing at all? You just put it out? Well, why would you edit it? Every podcast you edit, Dan. No, you don't. I have no idea.

Yeah, a lot of them you do. This one might need to be because it's a little on the long side, but I, of course, took it into this zone by needing to talk about my Orlando. Oh, yeah, wait. What were you going to talk about? What was your Jurassic World thing?

What was your question? Okay, well, Jurassic World, you know it's getting a sequel. Yes. Hopefully, we'll see Bryce Dallas back but I want to do Bryce Dallas Howard the ride

is what I'm saying okay whatever everyone puts on heels and outruns a T-Rex what is this question that you so I'm saying

I think you might see Jurassic Park the section theme park get more get more yeah yeah yeah and they've been saying

actually the land opened and there was plans to do a Jurassic Park jeep adventure which they've been saying actually the land opened and there was plans to do a jurassic park jeep adventure which would have been state of the art but they already had the jurassic park to ride the water version from hollywood and they just said you know what let's just cut the cost of creating something new and transplant it you can't cut corners so many other rule number six of culture you can't and they have learned that with harry potter world if you invest pays dividends as dave mazzoni said after we got out of green gods i was gagged for green gods in one of the classic lines okay so this jurassic world ride that's what i said

you had a question oh okay okay okay jur World, the movie. The part where the British lady gets fucking owned. Destroyed by a pterodactyl. And there's like a 35 to 40 second scene where she gets really, really killed. You could almost, I'm not throwing rape around, but it truly destroyed her. It's torture porn. It was torture porn. And what are our thoughts about that? Earned?

No. I hated it. I thought, why don't you kill Vincent. And what are our thoughts about that? Earned? No. I hated it. I thought, why don't you kill Vincent D'Onofrio that way? He was the movie that was asking for it. All she'd ever done in the movie was like be on a cell phone and then was like what? And then they're like kill her. I feel like, I do feel like maybe

they edited out some stuff where she was like really a bitch to the kids. You know what I mean? But even then, does she deserve to be tortured? No then does she oh no no no it was about movies and especially movie deaths is the character has to always if it's a villain or like anything like that the character should always deserve the punishment again worst movie has to worst movie die lady in the water lady in the water in the water there's this flimsy thing where there's this character who's a movie critic and you're supposed to hate him it's right at the point bob allen it's right at the point when m night's career was you know waited on quaking and so he puts this character in who's like i'm a critic

of movies and i don't get it and you as the audience are just supposed to supposed to hate this guy and they've given you nothing other than that and they literally cut out stylistically to the scene where the monster is killing him and it goes into like monster vision it's the only time they do it in the whole movie and he like hunts him down and devours him and it's supposed to be like a yay moment and the whole place is just like what you cannot you can't kill bob alban the most lovable person to watch on screen yeah you love i'm protecting it was like so sadly referential self-referential you know what movie character that didn't die in a movie would you kill horribly i say misguised i'm just kidding it's just what i thought oh my god didn't die in a

movie who didn't die in a movie that should die honestly i think the old man should have died at the beginning of up to like just let him and the wife die and let that boy run around give me that boy that bird boy with that dumb talking dog run around dug the dog with the memory if you're going for a dizzy i say they kill lucifer the cat in cinderella but i think you could go for the stepmother yeah they should have killed her you could go for her sucked um they should have killed they don't kill cruella which is good yeah you don't want you don't kill Cruella, which is good. Yeah. You don't want Cruella down. No, you want her to... You're like, bring her back.

Give me more. 102. They made it. It's terrible. I know. They should have killed... Did you like live action? Is it bad? I don't remember. Oh, the Glenn Close one? You know what I listened to today three times? Glenn Close sing as if we never said goodbye. It so beautiful she's an amazing singer yes but wait you've seen her

you've seen her national anthem that's so bad yes no the national anthem what you have it's it's very bad but glenn close is a beautiful singer and it was just a bad moment but it is it is like you will laugh and watch it 10 times in a row because it's so funny. But yes. We must. You know what, guys? I think with that suggestion, I think that it might be time

to put a cap in this episode. Watch, go and close. Josh, Arp, and Aaron. Yes. What do you guys have coming up that you want people to see? All-stars too. I'm going to be on All-stars too.

Josh, Arp is going to be on RuPaul's Drag Race All-stars too. When's the next gay show? July 2nd. Saturday, July 2nd. 9.30 p.m. Saturday, July 2nd. I'm going to be on All-Stars 2. Josh Sharp is going to be on RuPaul's Drag Race All-Stars 2. When's the next gay show? July 2nd. Saturday, July 2nd. 9.30 p.m. Saturday, July 2nd. I highly recommend that you go to the show.

One of the best shows in the city. I love it. Really fun. Bowen and I have both been guests. Yes. Had a lot of fun on the show. Stars. It's been so fun.

I met my boyfriend on that show. That's true. The wonderful Henry Kapersky on the keys. At HenryKaperskyOn the keys. Dot com. Can you announce the lineup yet or no? You're still getting it together? Frankly, no. Frankly, we cannot release that information.

We famously do not have it at this moment. Wonderful. You know what I love about that show is it's like they have like probably two like gay comics or whatever. And then like one like emerging gay icon. An ally. An emerging icon. Yeah. Our only rule is no straight men.

Straight men. Love it. I love that rule. I want to keep them out. We want fierce women and gay icon. An ally. An emerging icon. Yeah. Our only rule is no straight men. Straight men. Love it. I love that rule. I want to keep them out. We want fierce women and gay men. Love that. Love it. Check it out.

July 2nd. July 2nd. Is that Saturday? Saturday, July 2nd. I love that it's on Saturdays now and not Sunday nights because I work on Sunday nights. Okay.

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