Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "SEEK CULTURE 2" Pt. 1 (w/ Catherine Cohen & Pat Regan)

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

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Dog. Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes.

Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Hey. Ding dong. Hey. Ding dong Hey Ding dong Hey Ding dong

Wow All together La turi turi turi La turi turi turi The four of us are all in our own particular states of being Four friends who sometimes get together and get around a podcast And it's almost like the sisterhood of the traveling pants with no pants They get around a podcast Okay, let's almost like the sisterhood of the traveling pants with no pants. They get around a podcast.

Okay, let's just do it. The girls are back in town. Okay, Kevin, you just turned me all the way down. Why am I wearing headphones at this point? Okay, I was trying to turn myself a little bit down. But when you put... Okay. All right, well, listen.

Hey, it's Kat. How do we feel right now? I feel like... Psycho. Psycho. About sound or about... About sound levels. Well, I just couldn't hear even a word.

It's way too loud for me. And it's too loud for you. Guys, you just follow the chords. Okay, so Kat, you're three. I'm three. All right, this is good. Kat's three. Jesus.

We're killing all of this. I never wanted to deal with technology today. If I get any louder, I will deafen. And I can't because I need to hear myself when I'm singing. And then Matt is four. So are you good, Matt? I am unwilling. Would you rather go down? I'm unwilling to touch any of the buttons because I don't want this to continue. Okay, fine. Alright.

I have the worst hearing of my family. I have my chosen family. I want us to do a quick check-in just to see where we're at because I think we all are in very vulnerable states. We have to be honest about the fact that Bowen's not wearing headphones because we can't find a piece of a coat. But we have to be honest.

I didn't even notice. That's how head in my own ass I am. I feel like it's very Bowen Yang to throw himself on the coals and just not wear headphones for this. Last time he didn't want the padded chair. I know. Even this time. This time I do have the armrests,

but I have the tri... The tri... The stand. The tri device. That's a tripod. Okay, Pat, you just got off a bus. I just got off a bus. The first thing he said to me was not hello,

was I'm not in a good mood. And I said don't act like I'm in a good mood. This is what I'll say about buses. They're one of my least favorite vehicle, actually. One of my least favorite vehicle that is known to man. Or that's in use today and in wide use today. But I think

I just am feeling really overwhelmed with my schedule right now. I just went to Syracuse, which was fun and I celebrate all those that I came into contact on that trip with. Now I'll go home for a second and then I have to nanny two days for ten and a half hours a day Monday, Tuesday

that's a lot it's going to be brutal what about tomorrow? what about tomorrow? tomorrow I have familial obligations for Easter my Christ has risen

your Christ has risen and I have to acknowledge that I just want to ask you does it cost you anything to just say hello and then get into how you're in a bad mood?

yeah does that cost you anything? oh my god because it costs me everything this is it that's not how our family does it we really barrel in we see it and then get into how you're in a bad mood. Yeah, does that cost you anything? Oh my God. Because it costs me everything. That's not how our family does it. We really barrel in. We see it, we're in it already. Okay, all right. It's Nmedia.

It's Nmedia. Nmedia Rez. Nmedia Rez. And Paley Media Center for film and TV. Paley Media Center. Kat, you are, you're doing great. I feel a little reckless. I have a reformation dress sort of slipping off my shoulders.

I love that. I'm feeling a little romantic. You know what? I like it draping. Thank you. The shoulders. I'll let them drape tonight. I'm excited for the show.

Wow. That's going to be great. I actually almost started crying when I walked in here because to see you two for the first time in some calendar years. Calendar years. Yeah.'s beautiful and matt how are you well i don't live here anymore i live somewhere else in fact i'm wearing a jersey that says la on it it was 90 because i have currently don't have a million dollars in my bank account and i spend money like that's true um what am i doing i don't. I'm fresh off a flight from Los Angeles. I came in for the show.

Sometimes something I'll do is I'll just go somewhere for a weekend. When you have a mind of five, Monday through Friday, you can do things like that. You really have to make sure your weekends are counting. And it gets me for all of us when I say you've changed. Matt has gotten a job. I don't know. My skin looks really good. I've been hooking up with a lot of boys

in LA one thing I have to say is that no one knows how to kiss oh no one knows how to kiss everyone uses their teeth

first it's very teeth forward you have to be careful with teeth but can I say something yeah I want to really get each person's permission

before I even speak please you have our permission. Someone once told me it might have been Catherine or it might have been a Catherine type person. No, there is no such thing. Wait, should I repeat that? It said someone once told me something and it might have been Catherine or it might have been a Catherine type person. But there is no such thing.

Thank you. God broke the mold when he invented Catherine Cohen. God must have spent a little more time on you. Someone said that there's no such thing as a bad kisser or a good kisser. It's just chemistry. Someone tried to tell me that and I said I don't think so.

Maybe I tried to tell you that. Everyone stop. What is that? It's the coffee. Pat demanded Emma make coffee. I'm unable to do this without caffeine. I was coffee for him. I'm unable to do this without caffeine. Okay. I was not in demand.

I said, Emma, would you mind making coffee? You're painting me as a Ramona. I don't know. It was pretty Bethany of you to come in here and we say, hey, Pat. And you go, I'm in a bad mood. In fact, that's literally a line Bethany said earlier in the season. If I knew that expressing my feelings to my friends was going to turn them against me in this public way, I never would have. I would have just put on a face.

I would have walked in and I would have said, I won't be real today. You know what? Find another Catherine type person. Oh my God. Can we stop already with everyone ganging up? Now I will say definitively, and I'm the expert on this. There are bad kissers. And do not, I do not need to taste your whole tongue.

No, I don't need your whole tongue in my mouth down my throat. In fact, I don't even need it as like a little snack midway through the hookup. I like a little. I don't need to be surprised by like your tongue all the way down my mouth. I don't need to know you can do that. I know you can do that. Don't do it. I like tongue.

The worst, but the worst, it goes overboard. I'm sorry about the coffee. Now I feel bad. It's fine. Can you please let me finish my sentence? Oh my, oh my. I'm beat right, I'm beat right already. If you go, you're actually pale.

And you're a bitch! Bitch! You're Syracuse pale. And it really reads when I look at you that you've been in Syracuse. People have been telling me that I've gotten color. Oh, that's good That you've been in Syracuse People have been telling People have been telling me That I've gotten color Oh that's good Who's been telling you that

Who's been telling you I don't remember Someone said that to me Fucking idiot Sonia types Someone said that Someone said that towards me Towards me Bowen

I want you to It's not gonna be It's not gonna land Who cares if it lands This isn't Saturday Night Live Not every joke has to land. You can try things here. Not everything is Saturday Night Live.

I didn't mean land. I just mean that it's not. Well, now it's like we're so far away. I want you to. Say what you mean. It's bad. It's bad kissing. When if the sides of my mouth are wet and dripping in your spit.

Yeah. That's bad. And you've left a mess. And how dare you. Everyone go around saying one word that's good kissing. One word that's bad kissing. Okay. a mess and how dare you. Everyone go around saying one word that's good kissing, one word that's bad kissing. I want to go last. Honestly, for me, deep.

It's good. Deep like you can, I like to smell the person. I like like romance. I like to feel like it's a moment. I like to feel like I could potentially look across the bridge and someone might be taking a picture of me

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a famous story. What story? Tortoise and the hare. Oh. I have a huge problem with that story, though. Slow and steady wins the race to Bo and Yang's hole. And bad

is bad is wet. Bad is wet around the skin. Oh my God. Keep the wetness in my mouth. Keep it in my mouth, honey. That's so crazy. I never should have let you go first because I was going to say wet for bad.

I said wet for bad. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You never should have let me go first. Okay, good. Do your homework. Yeah. Do your homework. Okay, I know. I know it's so'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You never should have let me go first. Okay, good. Do your homework. Yeah. Do your homework.

Okay, I know. I know it's so fun to absolutely drag me straight to hell. No one has. You came here and were upset with us. Look at me. My hands are in the air. My weapons are down. I came in here, weapons down.

Look at me. I would never get mad at you for being in a bad mood. I'm in a great mood right now. I know. I love it. And look at me. I love to say that. Look at Kat.

I love you. Okay. You're mine and I know, I love, and look at me. I love to say that. Look at Kat. I love you. Okay. You're mine and I love you. And Pat, look at me. No one was mad at you for being in a bad mood. I was posing a question to see if it was

conversationally okay for you to say hello first when someone says hello back. And Pat, look at me. You don't check in with me enough now that I'm in another state. That's not true. I had a long text conversation with you. It was not true. I had a long text conversation with you.

It was moderate length. I had a long text conversation with you. And Catherine texted me, never. That's not true. That's not true. We have FaceTimed. Matt. Once.

Twice. Once. Catherine and I had a nice text conversation recently. Yes, we did because I was thinking about you and feeling goo goo. Now, Pat, what are your words? Good is soft for me. And good for me also is humpy. And bad for me.

Oh, I like humpy too. I think I like kind of hard. I kind of like a little bit of hard. No, I like when the lips are actually so soft that it feels like I like when it's a soft lip. Oh, when they have nice soft lips. And okay, I'm going to say this. For me, bad is pointy.

Like with a tongue. I don't mind a tongue, but I have nice soft lips. And okay, I'm going to say this. For me, bad is pointy. Mm-hmm. Like with a tongue. I don't mind a tongue, but I want a soft tongue. I want a pointy tongue jabbing at me. Of course. I think it's just like, you know, like chemistry can't be explained. Sometimes with a certain type of person, you can grab me and say, I'm doing this to you. Other times, it's more of a communication, more of a dance.

I'm so horny. Me too. Because I want to apologize for how I came into the studio. That's okay. No. You don't owe me anything. We did not set you up for an apology.

I just want to make that very clear. You did not have to. I know. But thank you. But it cost me nothing to do that. It cost you nothing. Okay, this is C Culture. This is our advice hour,

little crossover event. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all for submitting your questions. Thank you for submitting your questions for our last episode.

There is a quick matter order of business that we follow up with EC. There's a dangling thread from the last episode. And if you don't remember what happened on the last episode

of C Culture, well, Pat Regan absolutely dragged to hell a young, young fan listener from Dallas, Texas. And then Bowen Yang and I knocked him out or KO'd him in Mortal Kombat terms by canceling our show in Dallas. So he is absolutely very upset. Cancel culture.

We canceled culture as it made its way to Dallas, Texas. And we canceled ourselves. Wait, why did you cancel? It's just not working out with our schedules. It wasn't working out with our schedules. But EC came to us with a question about trying to expose his boyfriend to more culture because they were not a cultural match. Yes. And then Pat accused him of performing cultural elitism.

Yeah. As an 18-year-old gay man in Texas. 19. 19. It's a soft, at least. Okay, soft at least. So basically this is EC sending us a follow-up. I love EC.

Scram and scream, dog. Scram and scream. Our song is a scram and scream dog Oh my god Wait by follow up Do you mean that he sent another message Or we're just sort of addressing this again Well that and he did send us another email

Which I will read to you right now We asked him to call back in And respond to Pat Yes Oh my god So this is EC's follow up Hello C Culture panel It's EC again

First I appreciate all your advice and wisdom So thank you Second I'd like to address my new frenemy, Pat. I will say I did come off as performing culture elitism, and I want culture elitism, and I want you to know I'm not too much of a huge snob. Yes, I do feel

strongly about my tastes, but I just needed ways to get my boyfriend to see the fun in my hobbies and interests. Honestly, I've been surprised by both of us lately. It just took a sec to realize, but we share more interests than we thought. Just took exposure.

He loved the contemporary art museum, and turns out I sort of love frat parties. So in the end, Team EC and Pat were both right, and that's dot, dot, dot,

beautiful slash touching slash life. That's gorgeous. I would also like to address that with 19 in Texas, it isn't all that hard being gay. I actually just organized a campus LGBT plus reprom event.

So kind of thriving. We went to Alamo to enjoy the cheese on the broccoli immediately after listening to the app. Here we are listening to Pat drag me in total shock. We heart see culture. That's EC.

And then that's his. Oh my God. Let me see. Let me see. They're so cute. They're very cute. We heart C culture. That's EC and then that's his Oh my god. Let me see. They're so cute. They're very cute. They look so young. Oh my god. They're so cute. And I have to say like maybe this is me being like oh look and they said we love C culture.

That's amazing. Maybe this is me being like like I don't know like talking down to young people but I thought that email was very well spoken and I don't know if I at 19 years young people, but I thought that email was very well spoken. I don't know if I, at 19 years old, could have gotten it that much. Yes, yes. He gets it, EC.

Yeah, I heard a lot of growth in his story today. Yeah, I think that's great. I wasn't actually mad. I just was like, really? Being on a podcast. I wasn't actually mad. I want to go on the record

as saying I like snobs and I'm sexually attracted to snobs. So I don't know if that does anything for anyone. Am I a snob? You're a snob. I'm a snob. You have to like good things

to be a snob. You went to the museum today. Yeah, honey. What did you think of Hilma? Je dude. Je dude. Oh my God. Wait, phone case.

Hilma. Oh my God. Hilma's amazing. Hilma's amazing. What's that? I don't know. Helma? Je dude. Je dude. Oh my God, wait, phone case, Helma. Oh my God. Helma phone case. Helma's amazing. Helma's amazing. What's that? I don't know. Helma Ockland, she was a pioneer,

although no one knew it, of abstract art and all of the themes that she explored in her work aligned with Mondrian, but no one saw her work until the 80s. She died in the 40s and she said, I don't want any of this work to be shown until 20 years after I've died and she received visions

from spirits that one day her work would be put in a circular temple the Guggenheim oh my god and so it's beautiful

I actually that's funny because I actually am doing that with my pilots I've actually I was going to say I've actually written

12 to 16 pilots but I don't want anyone to see them until 20 years after I die because of what I've been told by spirits and I. I'm actually reading 12 to 16 pilots, but I don't want anyone to see them until 20 years after I die. Because of what I've been told by spirits. And I can't act this time. Where will your pilots be displayed? Yes, where will they be displayed?

They will be displayed in a heptagonal shaped temple. And it's going to be everything. Will it be epic? It might even be epic. And there might even be a stage to reading. Oh, I can't wait. I love that. Wow. Should we check in about

our diseases? Oh, yes. Our diseases. I think we probably all have new diseases at this point. Yeah, probably. I do. Oh, wait. Okay, who wants to start? Okay, do you want to know my disease? Yeah. Alright, so my disease is I have a lot of new friends in LA, like a lot of new girlfriends. Oh, what? to start and you go matt okay do you want to know my disease yeah all right so my disease is i have

a lot of new like friends in la like a lot of new girlfriends what a cancer we've yet to hear something that was not a brag coming off matt rogers's mouth this episode no i'm just okay can i rephrase because i you're right you're i'm being absolutely insufferable no you're not all right so listen so i've i've relocated and i for the time being stop but you guys are fucking police and dragging i'm laughing because i'm having a good time with my friends yes is that allowed okay so now i'm trying to make new friends for a while i'm in another sit yeah and so base i have know, met a bunch of new people. And here's the thing.

When you meet a bunch of gay guys, everyone's always like, what is this? What is, what is the relationship? Is it going to be sex? Is it going to be friends? Is it going to be the sniffing butts up and down?

And I am just having a problem with my disease is I feel that I am potentially maybe even being too sex forward with my disease. And sometimes with my disease and sometimes to quote you with my diseases i feel i'm like i don't know i feel like i don't know what keep talking keep talking is a thing i will say and i will say that it's very be more i've been known to spend upwards of two hours in sweet green for what i later thought it was just a platonic hangout at sweet green and the thing is i feel like any of these things could go either way. And the whole time I feel the tension of like,

what is it? What is it? What is it? And it's hard for me to sometimes even have a conversation with someone because I'm so preoccupied in my mind of like, what is this? What is this? Do you like me?

I might like you. I might not. In fact, I don't. Yes, I do. And I'm just like so crazy because I think I'm craving something now that I feel like busy professionally. Like I feel like pretty good about like the stuff I'm craving something now that I feel like busy professionally like I feel

like pretty good about like the stuff I'm doing what I'm not preoccupied with is like career stuff what I'm preoccupied with is like dating and sex stuff and I feel a little coo-coo-loo-loo do you want to be dating someone I think I do whoa that's sort of new for you

don't you think kind of I would like to I would like to really like someone who really likes me tell us all this time my disease scream door scream door my disease is

I'm finally per Pat's request alone and it's been hard like I've been having to force myself to sit at home and sit

and live with myself a lot of baths a live with myself um a lot of baths a lot of journaling a lot of poetry writing um serious poems uh that I would never show you um and the other thing is like I I get a little frustrated sometimes because I'm only I I don't know where I would even meet a straight guy to kiss yep like. Like, I just don't even know. Three words. Lower east side. But is that just like, is that just like crap?

Not necessarily. It's sort of like a cross section of every, every like bombastic straight male who would like go out. I mean, you would like meet someone. I don't know, but I don't mean to like

reductively be like, just go to this neighborhood. No, no, you're right. My disease, which is a good disease to have, is that I'm finally at a place in my life where I know that calling any old Lower East Side person to come over isn't going to make me feel better. I know. And it actually might make me feel

worse. It used to be momentary. Yes. Momentary? Momentary. Momentary. It used to be momentary. It used to be momentary. Momentary? It used to be momentary yes momentary momentary momentary it used to be momentary it used to be momentary relief and now it's actually offers no relief

and now my only relief is when I wake up and I know that I have not eaten late or done anything stupid and that's the only relief 100% and after hooking up

a bunch in LA I was where you were now and now I am having the opposite reaction where I'm like I'm not like let's be alone I'm like let's do it more and that's driving me nuts I think your disease Pat?

last time we said each other's diseases what is my disease? I don't know what my disease is your disease right now is like it's priorities it's self sabotage I think it's priorities it's self-sabotage i think it's priorities pat it's um i'm sabotaging myself a lot right now i feel overwhelmed and i feel um i don't want to show up for things i think your disease also is that you're actually being a

little hard on yourself and not realizing that you're actually doing really well yeah and like you have a lot of you you actually now have a lot of things you've been wanting that's true that's true i actually have been wanting and I'm not just talking about love I'm talking about life and also Pat I think sometimes these things that overwhelm you I think sometimes it's the way you're thinking about them I think some of the things could be fun like I think sitting down to write something that you like

could be fun don't be insane I have been writing no don't anyone tell me writing is fun no I actually have a great time doing it I have been writing. Don't anyone tell me writing is fun. I actually have a great time doing it. I have been writing. Sorry. Now I've heard everything.

I'm not talking about writing when I say that. I'm talking about other stuff. Like what? Just schedule stuff. I had a feeling this was what... Because it sounds like you have schedule anxiety. That you're overwhelmed with stuff. And this is the thing, Pat. Any belief that you have schedule anxiety that you're overwhelmed with that's what yes and this is the thing pat like any belief that you have about your your like load is like i mean yes like there are

like actual there are so many beliefs about my load there are actual limits to like how much i'm sure there are like actual like limits to like how much you can do in one day but also you believing yourself to be overwhelmed is like kind of an invention. Maybe I have Munchausen's and I think I'm overwhelmed. Stop, that's not. I know. I'm sure you are overwhelmed. No, I'm not.

Try to imagine. I feel burned out. I feel so not funny right now. I just, yeah. But like, I don't know. I think... What? You guys are killing it right now. No, I just stopped. I want to take a big load tonight. Take a big load.

I would love a big load tonight. I'm almost definitely going to bust a load tonight. Really? With someone? I don't care who it is. Do you have someone coming to the show in mind? Hordes of them. Oh, my God.

It isn't fair. Catherine, why don't you stick around tonight? There's going to be lots of straight guys that I don't think saw any light. Exactly. You laugh in my face. I heard you had a fun make-up in D.C. Oh. Yeah, it was okay.

A little birdie told me. You what? D.C.? Yeah. Who told you? A little birdie. A birdie in this room? No. Wait, were you kissing? A birdie out in the world. A bird birdie told me. You what? DC? Yeah. Who told you? A little birdie. A birdie in this room? No.

Wait, were you kissing? A birdie out in the world. A birdie out in the world, huh? I heard you were kissing from a birdie. Yeah. Which birdies? A birdie. I had, yeah, I had a fun little DC birdie.

What's DC? District of Columbia. Oh, the place? Yes. I don't like it there. We both had fun birdies that trip. Or not birdies. We had fun birdies that trip. Or not birdies. We had fun tris that trip.

Sure. But my birdie apparently hasn't traveled to Pat and Kat's ears. No, I didn't hear that. I only heard about Bowen's. I think your disease, going back to Pat's disease, try to imagine yourself like maybe not feeling overwhelmed. I know. No, I know.

You're right. You're right. I just feel like every time I start doing something, I have to stop doing it and go to my next thing. I don't like it. Wait, we have to shout out Tammy Sager because she recommended a book to me called Steering by Starlight.

And it's very, it's very new agey kooky language, but the writer is very self-aware about it and has a very fun sense of humor about it. And it's actually, I hear Tammy on every single page and it's like really being, it's, it's a very helpful tool right now.

The message is like, um, pretend like you've already won. Oh my God. And it's not delusion. It's actually like a helpful way to like melt away any kind of like invented belief that you have. I also feel, I kind of was just saying

that too because I don't feel particularly afflicted by disease right now. Oh. That's great. Yeah. I don't feel afflicted by disease. Your disease is that you are not diseased. Yeah. What's your disease, Beau? I might actually have that same disease as Pat

does. Wow. I don't know. We had the same disease last time too. Did we? Similar disease. Different strains of the same disease as Pat does. Wow. I don't know. We had the same disease last time too. Did we? Similar disease. Different strains of the same disease. Same word, honey. I think I'm just, I'm horny all the time.

That's different. No, no, no. Well, I'm clinging to an old thing. Yes, yes. In my romantic past and I have not really let it go. Can I tell you something? Yeah. When we were at the Rosemount recently,

I accidentally looked over your shoulder and saw you texting. And I was like, he's already gone to an old thing. And that's even a different thing. Wow. That you saw me texting. Who are you holding?

Who am I holding? One little birdie. One little birdie. One little birdie holding. Like, like, this is kind of like two things that are happening

at the same time. I want to be sure that I've never let anyone go and I've never gotten over a single person in my life. Thank you. It's impossible because we love too deeply,

too much, too hardly. Yes. Hardly, madly, deeply. Hardly, madly,

deeply. Oh my God. I think, I think it's time to get into the emails. I know. I have questions. Like, I need help. You need, noly, deeply. Hardly, madly, deeply. Oh my God. I think it's time to get into the emails. I know. I have questions. Like, I need help. You need, no, stop it.

Stop it. This is our role. As Pat so eloquently put on his Twitter, we are sister wives and our husband is the audience? The collective listener. The collective listener. And it's the wife's job to give the husband advice. That's my job. Yeah.

And so. Before we begin, I just want to say that anyone listening that I've been involved with, I'm and it's the wife's job to give her husband advice. That's my job, yeah. Before we begin, I just want to say that anyone listening that I've been involved with, I'm 100% over you. Wait, tell me just quickly. Are you interested in one person in particular in loss? I think it's going to be a different person that I'm interested in every two and a half days. Wow. But you want someone serious.

I don't think I want someone serious. I want to be having consistent fun with one other person because the whole bouncing around, one day we're one thing and then the next day you act weird like I don't want to do the games. Matt Rogers, consistent fun. Consistent fun.

But it's also a disease in people in L who are just like... I don't necessarily think it's, I don't think it is specific to people in L that have this. I think it might be. I think it's when you go to a new city, you can see it all clearly. I think people from L come to N and then they say, oh gosh, what is this? And I think people from C, of course Columbus, would go to somewhere like C, of course Chicago, and they would say the same thing.

And of course people in D, of course Dallas, would go to D, of course Des Moines. You're saying hug up culture is just different and there's no value statement on either one. I would say that here here's my academic way of saying it. I think the patriarchy is affecting the gay community in a crazy way because I think that we all are in this middle area of being Buddha judges where it's like I'm going to be like a perfect little like have my little relationship and it's going to be perfect

and we're looking for that and then like there's no gray area with other relationships and then otherwise it's like no I just want to fuck all the time and people are like upset because they're fucking all the time so it's hard to find a middle ground because there's no like precedent for it in the gay community do you know what I mean?

does that make sense sorry this is insane are you having nicotine gum Pat just gave me the nicotine I don't know how this oh my god this is crazy my boyfriend has to have it and I gave it and he threw up from it and so we always refer to it as the time he OD'd early on in our relationship oh my god that's really funny

this is crazy that's the craziest thing I've ever put in my head. I know, I had to work up to this level. Ew. I know it's bad. My disease is nicotine addiction. And it's funny, I'm specifically having nicotine cessation products, and so I need nicotine cessation. And that's something they call

a double. A double. Animal style. Oh! Animal style. That's a Bear Burger thing. No, it And I need to figure out. Animal style. Oh. Animal style. It's a Bear Burger thing. No, it's In-N-Out. Oh. Fuck you.

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Matt, you're tense now. I am. Why? I don't know. Is it because I didn't understand what you said about Buddha judges? What's going on? It's literally 3% that. Oh, interesting.

Wait, what's the rest? I don't know. I'm figuring out every second. Tell us where it's going. I feel the tension is there's a lot of them? I don't know. I'm figuring out every second. Tell us where it's going. I feel the tension is there's a lot of silliness coming from over here. It is a moment of distraction. I give him a neck. I guess my tension is that like, okay, I'll be real about my tension.

Yeah, be real. I'm in L and it's like hard because it's like, you know, you're trying to like fit in and then you come back here in N and it's like, oh god, do I still fit in? Into N? Yeah, it's like, you know what I mean?

Yes, I know what you mean. I'm in a bizarre transitional moment and I'm just like, oh god. Also, I'm off a plane, you guys. You definitely still fit in N. You fit in N. I know that, but it's like, like okay so another thing is like I don't perform anymore at like an L at all

and that is like truly my lifeblood and it's like why am I not and then all of a sudden it's like whoa yeah I feel insane there's a lot going on yeah and also truly the relationship thing like it's like not even it's not even that I want a relationship it's that I want to figure out what my relationships are because in N all my relationships

like are what they are. And so now I'm out in L and it's like, what is any of this? I guess I'll figure it out, but it's hard because I'm crazy. This is what I think you should do. This is my medicine for your disease. I think that you should choose three people that you like

that you're kind of wobbling back and forth on of like, are we going to hook up? Are we not? And just take those three off the table or two. Whoa. Just take them off the table romantically and just be like,

these two people are going to be my fucking friends. And then you'll just have two fucking friends. Because do you want to know something? And that's three person

and that's let's say, Do you remember the person that we talked about on the last Seed Cult in my life? Yes. Is he still around? Well, now we're like friends.

No, you're not allowed to be friends with him. Actually, but actually he's, he has actually he has the most disease. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's in the... He has a serious illness.

He's in hospice. He's in hospice. I'm sorry. And there's no saving him, which is what hospice is. Why, Matt? What are you getting out of that? You enjoy hanging out with him? Yeah.

But it's also like in the back of my mind, I have to ask myself like, am I doing the healthy thing for me or am I trying to be cool? Because something that I do is I tap myself down and I don't say how I'm really feeling so that everyone else feels good. And that is something that like bone and I had a long conversation about this yesterday. Like something I do all the time is something that I'm realizing that I will definitely unpack in therapy is that I don't say when things are really bothering me or when I really want something so that other people feel good. And then when I do, it's like I feel nuts about it.

That's codependence. I think. Ted, do you know that for sure? Yeah. What is codependence? I said that's codependence. It's also what they would call Al-Anon-y. Al-Anon-y. Al-Anon-y.

Al-Anon's a program and that's... Yeah, I know what Al-Anon is. Al-Anon type stuff. Is that what you just said? Really? Yeah. Maybe Stargaze. Generally speaking.

Maybe Starbird by Stargazing. Starbird by Stargazing. Maybe realize that you don't need to impress this person because you've already won. You're right. And also... Right? Isn't it? With me, I have a thing where it's like i still i

just need to win everyone over in every situation yeah you have to be the star of everything okay and this is an exercise in the book that she talks about early on she goes if you're stressed out about a situation just for like 20 seconds 30 at best best case scenario 30 imagine yourself being validated by every single person you want validation from and you're awash and like they're on their fucking knees telling you how much they love you and you're fucking them up their ass it's just like like like people are like truly prostrate wanting to like please you and they're telling you how much they think you're great and then imagine what like just just embody that and then like i mean i don't know and like just imagine just quick little

thought experiment and then see how you sort of change this is the story that's in the book yeah i just want people to like me and so then i just i just like truly like drop out and i'm like oh everything's fine even though even though everything's like not necessarily fine what's the story in the book this is the story in the book? This is the story in the book. She has this DEA agent friend. Normally DEA agent, DEA agent. I know, sorry, that is a crazy thing.

She has this DEA agent. DEA. She has a DEA agent friend. Drug enforcement agency? Yes. Who would, and they'll normally kick down a door and stick up a gun

and be like, everybody get on the fucking floor, right? Yeah. And then people run away and people are like, it's such an aggressive environment. Yeah.

She's this one agent friend who will find a way into this drug den, calmly walk in, find a place to sit down in front of whatever person. And then the people are like, who the fuck is this but calm like no one's alarmed everyone's just like wait okay there's a person there who's just very like confidently sitting down yeah okay weird but i guess this is just normal and then the agent after like some moments go by we'll get up and go, come with me. And then they go with him.

They're like, okay. Oh, my God. And they're like, oh, I guess you're telling me, so I have to. And, like, his whole thing is, like, I walk into the situations calm as hell, pretending like I've already, pretending like they will do whatever I say. And then you arrest them? And then he arrests them. Oh, my God.

That's mean. That's a trick. I don't he arrests them. Oh my God, that's mean. That's a trick. I don't like that. If he did that, I would be pissed. So I need to enter my social situations feeling that relaxed. Powerful. Like validated already.

I know, but it's so crazy too because I receive nonstop validation and the well is just like endless. Bottomless. Bottomless. Yeah, that's another thing. It's like what do you do when like that's already, that shouldn't be a problem, but it still is i this is what i think about all

the time whenever i get worked up over if one person it feels like they don't like me is like or when it gets stressed out about trying to get someone like me it's just like there's no one person who can make or break you there's always another person and it's like so it's like who who cares you have that you're right that's the best thing I was able to do in the last year was like truly stop caring so much if people liked me or not. Yeah. I still am dealing with that. You're actually very good at that.

Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, be nice. And he's like, I don't give a shit. I know. And it's not my disease, though. I shouldn't care. No, I actually think it's amazing. And it like makes me.

Yeah. I'm just like, you're so yourself in every situation that you're never bending for someone. I think that's like the most attractive thing. You're attractive to me. Yeah. Like when Pat came in today, he was not feeling in a good mood and he didn't even want to pretend it was a holo situation. It was, I'm not in a good mood.

Right. But I was like, this is going to last a second and I'll be fine. Yeah, you're right. And you also, you knew you'd be safe with us. I knew I'd be safer. So I thought. No. No, it stopped.

Camera's rolling. Because you know what? What? I actually respect that. And you don't ever change a thing. I think it's especially nice because in this, say it with me, business. Or even industry.

Or even town. In this town, a lot of people are trying to do that all the time. To be able to hold your own is a good quality. And I want to be more like that. Yeah, because even once I win, whatever person in question I'm trying to win over, once I win them over, it loses meaning to me and then I need a new one. You're right.

It's literally like I found out like a couple weeks ago. I was texting because I was debating. I was just like feeling overwhelmed. Like I just I was feeling like I need to go home and write or I need to go home and sleep or something. And I was supposed to do this show way uptown and I was like, I just think I have to bail on this show and I did bail on the show and then I found out

recently that the people were mad and they were like, yeah, Pat's famous for bailing and they were pissed off. But I don't care. I'm like, yeah, I did bail on that show because I was like this isn't going to be a show I do tonight because I can't do it. And I truly was thinking on the bus how like two years ago it would have been driving me crazy that I pissed those people off but it's just like

yeah that's what I need to do that night and sorry my therapist does that all the time where she's like would you have done this two years ago and I would be like no and that's oh wow I've like progressed as a human being my therapist is moving to LA. No.

I know. Congratulations to her though. Can I? I'll take her. Yeah, take her on. Oh, that'd be good.

Do you like her? Yeah, I do. It's funny. I do. I've bailed on her the last like six times, but I do like her.

Well, you're famous for bailing. Famous, pat, famous bailing. Famous for something. Should we get into some emails? I get what you're saying.

Yeah, yeah, no. And my thing is like, when you say that you bailed on that show, like, and whenever Bowen

bails on shows and you have a tendency to like, at least ask me if you should bail on shows, I always say like, no, it's inconsiderate.

It's very, to me, it's like, like, to me, it's like, and with you, it's for you with,

for a little while there, it was a pattern. And I was like, you will develop a rightfully earned reputation as someone who is unreliable if you keep doing this. So I guess that would be like, for me, it's like something you don't care about. That's a fair consequence. But it's not like I was just like, I can't do this tonight. So I'm not going to.

Right, right, right. And that was just what it was that day. It's tricky. It's tricky for me. You know what I mean? Because I've been bailing too. I'm trying to say no to more to make room for the stuff I should be working on. And that's it.

Yeah. But I'm in the transition where I've said no and I haven't yet replaced it as I'm having kind of this like waiting around. Right, right, right. Saying no is the replacement though, right? Is replacing bailing. I think. Oh, yeah. the replacement though right is replacing bailing i think oh i yeah i think that um it's one thing

if it's like i look at it as the same as like if you get caught in a bus and it's like i can't get there it's like today it's not gonna work out yeah and i try to be i'm like next time i'm gonna be more discerning about how much i say yes to yeah i over promise i think that is like a big thing that like i remember deciding to do it was like's – I think we all go through that thing where it's like in this town, industry, community, place. We say like I'm going to do a lot of stuff because it's all available to me to do. And then you overbook your schedule and it's like psycho. And then you're like I don't want to do any of it and you go in and you do 40 percent. And then you just start to say no to more things and you give yourself the space to do shit that you actually want to do and everything gets better.

Can I ask? I feel like Bowen will have a good answer for this. What do you think is the most sophisticated, kind way to say I can't because I'm too busy or because I'm making time for other things? Oh, my God. First of all, thank you for thinking that I would have a good answer. Yeah, I don't think he's going to have a good answer. Really? But you have so much going on.

Well, oh, well this is, I have not developed a sophisticated way around this. We need like a good phrase. But what I say is, I'm out, I'll be traveling.

That's what I do. That's a lie. Yeah, but also, it like nips it in be traveling. That's what I do. That's a lie. Yeah, but also, it like nips it in the bud. It's like, it's not out of like malintent. It's just like, I'm telling you in this way

that will make sense to you that I don't want to do your show. I think you could literally, Catherine, can just say, I'm sorry I'm not available for the show. I'm a little overextended that week. Overextended.

There you go. So then say, I'm not available that date, but thank you. Yeah, no, of course. And that always is it. And yet, I've been saying no to some things, and now I have nothing going on. But that'll change. That'll change.

It'll change. It'll change. Anyways, don't include that. It's boring. Okay, let's answer. Have we all come down with more diseases after the conversation? I feel I have the same amount of diseases as I started. I was diagnosed with a disease.

I have developed a rightful reputation. You? No, you didn't. I said you were developing, which you were. And tell me I'm wrong. I don't feel that way about you. That's a trade-off. That's a decision that you make.

It's like, I don't know. Yes, yes. No, I'm yes no I'm kidding I'm kidding and this is honestly this is Matt no because actually I am someone who

lies in more I'm more in line with Sudi with stuff like this where it's like you do your commitments well I actually of course

I actually was with Sudi actually the morning of that show when I was like should I bail and she was like you should bail on this well then she's changed

and I am no longer her friend I don't think you fit into N anymore Matt what is that? I don't think you fit into N anymore, Matt. What is I? I don't think you fit into N anymore. I don't fit into N anymore. I'm more L.

Can we actually call N new? Let's read some emails. Yeah. This is from Sexless in Tulsa. Okay. Next, Ann. Okay. Dear Cat, Pat, Bone, and Matt.

You're in it. My best friend and I are notorious prudes and are tired of being the perennial fag slash hag couple invited to places, so we decided to take matters into our own hands and possibly mouths, butts, and other orifices. Thus, Dick Pact 2019 was born. We've got to sexually interact with five dicks

we have never seen before, before 1-1-20, January 1st, 2020. And we are currently in April, the month of our Lord, fruitless and failing miserably. What advice do you have for two prudes who aren't necessarily sex negative, parentheses, but proud of Pat who is in a gorge relation, but aren't good at getting the D? Lila is sexless in Tulsa. Well, Pat's only seeing one dick right now. I'm only seeing one dick.

I wonder if they're going out together too much Yeah me and Catherine run into that Pat and I had some tricky times If we both wanted to get some It's not gonna happen I don't think it's a good combo You have to invest in one person I think for me

I need to call the girls It's gotta be the girls It sometimes has to be the girls Yeah I get it And the girls if you're gay to be the girls. Yeah, I get it. And the girls, if you're gay, that means you're gays. Yeah. That is what that means.

That is the translation. I think, or even if I've gone out like alone, like when I famously met the bisexual who made me squirt three times and ghosted me, like I was alone at a bar. I think that, I think that literally you just have to be forward. If you're in a gay club space,

you have to go in knowing 80% of the people here are trying to fuck or at least suck or at least suck and you have to go and then you just can't be the person like I'm someone who like there's always

like a Shay Lounge type device at a gay club I'll sit on this and see if anyone comes up to me and I just sit there for five no they don't

in my experience they don't and then like but if you're the person who will go up to someone like rub their chest like you will go home with someone and like rub their chest like you will go home with someone

and you can't be that picky unless you can be in which case congratulations I would say that if you lower your defenses and are around other people with their defenses lowered

aka maybe this means if this is what you want to do have a couple drinks loosen yourself up and you put yourself in a spot where everyone else is being this way

or if you want to dance a little bit, and you go to a dance place, and don't even drink, just dance, and that lowers your defenses a little bit. Just being in a place that is a breeding ground for this kind of thing, it will happen. Well, Matt, you're someone who can be a grass in those spaces. I can be a grass, because can you remember?

Oh, yes. Matt was a grass with me. I was a grass with Pat. pulled him right out to the dance floor and gave it to him after an hour and a half of chatting about Long Island cross country it was about 15 minutes that's so crazy to me I would say for the gal

I think I've tried many of the apps and I think the old tried and true is Tinder I think you should set up it's kind of a lot of admin work but youinder i think you should set up you have to kind of it's kind of a lot of admin work but you need to try and maybe set up a few try and get some good matches try and set up a few dates yeah um because some people might cancel because people are flaky on it but at least when you come into a tinder date famous for that you know you're well earned when

you come into a date you know sex is on the table yeah it's like it's just a little easier and then have you know two to three drinks and touch Yeah. It's like, it's just a little easier. And then have, you know, two to three drinks and touch their arm and you'll probably be fucking. Yeah. In no time. Honestly, if anyone touches me

even a little bit on a date, I'm like, it makes a huge difference. Like if I'm on a date with you and there's no touching, forget it. But if you touch me even a little bit,

I will come 95% of the way. So know that there are me's out there. Just give them a little bit of that. Can I say something that happened when Pat and I went to rosemont yeah did i tell you this when it happened by the time you got to rosemont i was so tired i could not form sentences fine um this thing i was because i just started reading this dang book yeah and i was like let me just try this thing on for size and let me just go to the bar in order to drink and normally i'll go up to any bar in any specifically in a queer space and i'll be like god i'm just gonna be ignored i'm invisible

like i like he's like they're not coming to me they're intentionally not doing this why are they're racist like like my mind fully starts to spin out but i was like let me just try this this time i'll walk up to the bar pretend like i I've already won. And then I just like fucking propped my elbows onto this bar and just like chilled. Wasn't looking at my phone and was just like, oh, this is nice. He'll come to me eventually. Yeah. The bartender. The bartender.

And then he did. And then I got my drink. And then the vibe I gave off. And he fucked you in the bar. Well, the vibe I gave off was such that I turned around and this cute guy was like, hey, I like your glasses. And then guy was like, hey, I like your glasses. And then I was like, oh no, no, he goes, I like your glasses

and I like your tote. And I was like, literally I go. Literally I go. Literally I go. Literally I go. I walk away because I'm like, I have a drink for my friend Sam and I, literally I go.

Read the tote, I go, drink for my friend Sam. And I literally, I go, read the tote. I go, oh, thanks. It was free. And I walk away. Wow. Don't give a shit. Yeah. And it was beautiful.

Did you hook up? No, but I'm saying. Okay, so that's not it. But it sets it up so that you invite that kind of stuff to come to you where you're just like because because literally what she says in the book is thirsty people don't get don't get fat that was so true that was my problem when i was when i was out on the streets was i like wanted it so bad but was unwilling to do anything about it and then like i was in constant situations where i could literally just touch something someone's arm and either hook up or know that they didn't want to hook up and move on. But I wouldn't do that. So you just can't be me.

Also, also sexless. If you're an absext, you just can't be me. Make the pact looser. Five dicks before 1-1-20. It's very American Pie. So American Pie. It's so strict. I mean, don't avail yourself

to any timeline like that. It's already equal. You want to see five dicks in a year? it's so strict I mean don't don't avail yourself to like any timeline like that it's already he's saying they want to see five dicks in a year five dicks in a year doable but also like

I'm controlling her oh stop no I'm not I'm joking but I'm saying you don't have to don't even put a number to it don't put a quota

don't do it don't worry about it don't give a shit I think a number is fine it gamifies it it makes it fun I can't wait to get my hands on this book I need that because i've been feeling like when i was really having a good few months and killing it i feel like boys were coming out every which way in the

past few weeks it's only been a couple weeks don't you don't know you don't know literally i go you read the book and then you hear i i hear tam I hear Tammy Sager. Oh, that's perfect. I love Tammy. Okay, that was sexless. Okay, I hope you're sexful next time we talk. Okay, this one's kind of hot. It's a little long, but it's hot. Okay.

I love that. I can't believe how horny I'm going to be at the end of this long one. When I was a young girl in college, even, I would go on a website that was called Literotica. Oh, me too. I love that website. And I would read gay porn stories on Literotica. I'd read group. I wouldn't read group. I'd read group stories. What was group? Oh, me too. I love that website. I would read gay porn stories on Literotica. I'd read Group. I wouldn't read Group. I'd read Group Stories. Oh, Group Stories. I love that.

I used to read season two American Idol fanfic. Wait, Matt and Bowen, can I take a temperature here? Do you guys want Group? No. I don't want Group either. I recently had... You had Group? My one experience with Group was awful. And this is the thing. It was all Asians and I still felt invisible. had... You had group. My one experience with group was awful. And even...

And this is the thing. It was all Asians and I still felt invisible. Oh, no. But then recently I had a three and it was fine. Yeah, I've had one three and no other group. Oh, yes, you've had a three. Why do you ask me? It was a boy, boy, boy three. No, no, no, no, no. Ask

Catherine if she likes group. I feel like we've talked group to death, me and you. No, I feel no, no, no. Ask Catherine if she likes group. I feel like we've talked group to death, me and you. No, I feel like we barely scratched the ass. Catherine, look at me. I mean this from the bottom of my soul. Do you want group? Why?

And I've had group once. I know F3 is group. With W. With two M's. That I met at a taco stand in Williamsburg. And they were Irish. And they were Irish. That's H. And then it happened right after that?

Let me set the scene. It's 2015, the year of me. I'm walking home from some show like over the eight. I'm absolutely hammered and horny I know but not as sad actually not as sad

yeah yeah yeah and these guys are like do you know a good bar to go around here and I was like oh yeah there's one down the street and I'm like

it's fun do you want to come with us and I'm like yeah and then one goes to the bathroom start making out with one other goes to the bathroom

start making out with the other and then I'm just like let's go back to my bed wait seriously and then I have a question let's go back to my opinion wait seriously and then I have a question when you hooked up with them did

they ever do anything with each other no and actually they got so weirded out that one of them sort

of left towards the end the better one or the worst one the one with the smaller

dick left did you talk about this last time where you did a three and then one guy just goes I'm out I don't have two

stories like that. No, no, no, no. That was just, wow. Beautiful. It was gorgeous. Yeah, I'm open to group. Right. Can I read the hot one?

Read the hot one. Do you want to read the hot one? No, no, you can read it. But just don't say the name. Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Well, let's see. This next person's name is. This is.

Is. Kalia. Kalia. Kalia. So Kalia. Kalia. Literally, they go Hey

And seek treatment boys Thank you So I am a straight guy I seek immediate treatment For that Or at least I thought I was Ooh This just got

Joyce-y I thought I was Until I started dating a guy Okay now you're seeming gay To me I started dating a guy Even at college. I just turned 20.

I really like him, but no one except our mutual friends know that we are dating. I'm a bit reluctant to fully come out just because everyone who knows me knows that I have dated girls in the past. That's all of our stories. Besides coming to terms with my own sexuality, the guy I'm seeing feels like I'm ashamed of him or something, but I'm not. I just want to make sure this is going to be something long-term before I start telling everyone.

I know, especially if we break up, and I have to not only come out, but also explain my sexuality if we break up. Wait, sorry. Especially if we break up, and I have to not only come out, but also explain my sexuality if we break up. Okay, that was not my we break up and I have to not only come out but also explain my sexuality if we break up.

Okay, that was not my fault. That was Kalia's, but I love Kalia. I am especially nervous to tell my family, specifically my mom, it's always the moms are harder. Kalia, know that it's always

the moms are harder. I don't know. I don't think that's true for me at all. That's my story and that's someone I know's story. We just totally disregard the completely public and well-trod narrative that it's hard for a son to tell

his mom that he's gay, but okay. It's a past-mis-friend story. Finish Kalia's story. I am especially nervous about my family, especially my mom. My family has said numerous homophobic things around me and I'm not sure what to expect from them reaction-wise. From them reaction- from them reaction wise Catherine yawns

into the mic this bored bitch I know they'd still love me and I wouldn't be outcast or anything but I just don't want them to see me differently help me please I'm desperately seeking treatment okay so listen babe oh they think just Pablo is their fake

name but I'm sorry you are Kal Kalia. You are Kalia. You're gay now, you're Kalia. It is very hard to come out of the closet. We sympathize with you. However, you know, you gotta be fair to yourself and to the guy you're dating and to, you know,

it's the truth. So you're 20 years old. It's about that time. It's time to be brave. And also, also everyone's on their own calendar. What I will say is that, um, it seems like Kalia is concerned with,

uh, his family seeing him differently. And like, that's just part of it. I mean, and that's a great thing. And it's sort of the whole point. Well,

I think what, what Kalia needs to figure out for themselves is if they're G, S, or B. I think Kalia also, you should realize that no matter where this particular relationship goes, that doesn't affect

your sexuality. Yeah, that's what I'm saying by G, S, or B. Yeah, but... Are you going to date another guy after this, maybe? He doesn't need to decide that now. He needs to figure out

what he's going to say about the current relationship he's in and what he owes to himself to be truthful because it could be years of negotiation about whether he's B. He could not know he's really B or S or G until he's 30 or 40 even. So it's like how do you feel now? Is it a serious enough guy? Do you like him enough that you want to like tell people about it? If you do and the relationship is very important to you,

I think then you should honor that relationship. Well, just what kind of relationship do you want to have? Do you want to have one of those ones where you're like, you know, a real relationship and then you have to tell people? Or maybe you just want something, you're just figuring it out, you just want to see right now and that's fine, but then the other guy might not want that

and you have to deal with those consequences. Oh yeah, I'd be curious to figure out what the other guy's perspective want that and you have to deal with those consequences yeah oh yeah i'd be curious to figure out what the other guy's perspective is yeah right um and if you are sensing that he feels that you're ashamed um i don't know just get to like the bottom belief of what that is like why do you think he thinks you're ashamed i don't know well because he i mean part of why part of being gay or bisexual is shame so like he you are ashamed yeah listener you that is kalia kalia yeah you you are ashamed and that is part of this it's about like accepting the fact that you're different

and like just deciding now whether or not you want to be brave now or later based on how important the relationship is to you yeah i think do what you want but know brave now or later based on how important the relationship is to you. Yeah, I think do what you want, but know that you will be happier if you just, like, come out. Sure, sure. Catherine, do five minutes on this. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production.

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