Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Sense Memory/Stanislavsky/Circle In The Square” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Matt and Bowen convene to discuss the concept of a Night of a Thousand J. Lo’s, deep dive on Lady Gaga’s actor-forward Oscar campaign, perform Lisa Barlow’s hit mic monologue and debut Provincet...own’s new theme song. Also, Viva Las Culturistas and ALSO Viva Las Vegas, as Matt prepares to see Katy Perry in the City of Sin for his birthday and Bowen reveals that not only that he has come around on “Daisies” but also exchanged pleasantries with Mrs. Orlando Bloom herself. All this, and the following questions: do we actually want Carrie and Steve to fuck? Would you do Dancing with the Stars? What would you do if you heard your best friend saying that hated you because you’re a “garbage whore”? Disclaimer: “The Woman In The Window...” with Kristen Bell is spoiled in this episode so skip ahead a few minutes from where that discussion begins. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And I guess we have already a discussion topic to start the episode off. Let's get into it. So we were just recording some ads. And we actually are recording an ad for the city of Provincetown. The tourist destination Provincetown. I've never been more honored in my life.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And can you believe actually like, you know, they reached out, they wanted us to do this. And they're actually going to have us in Provincetown at some point this summer. And we're so excited about that. I've never been here. Can you believe that neither of us have been? Isn't that wild? And I also feel that the way it's described to me, sort of a gay Main Street USA, really sounds right up my alley. Gay Magic Kingdom, Gay Disneyland. Honey, you can bite the walls, they say, they'll take candy, so.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I don't know about that, girl. Probably would be filthy. You need to read John Waters' essay about Provincetown. He has a great essay and role models about Provincetown and his love for that city. I need to read that essay. And I think you and I will be the new John
Starting point is 00:03:26 Waterses on the scene. Crossing my fingers. Just kidding. We could never be. We could never replace you, John. John, we could never replace you, honey. Honey, you're doing amazing. And that's rule culture number six.
Starting point is 00:03:42 John Waters, honey, we could never replace you. You're doing amazing, sweetie. Okay, so what I guess I wanted to say was we're recording ads for the city of Provincetown and you know Lost Culture is just
Starting point is 00:03:58 Matt and Bowen, however you want to call it. It's mostly Matt. Matt comes up with jingles for some of the ads. I'll sometimes come up with a jingle for the thing that we're selling. Because I think it helps. I think it actually gets... It's an earworm. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:12 If you need help, better help. And then, of course, the new one that I really like is Zip Recruiter. The smartest way to hire. So I think that one's really good. So beautiful. And then we just came up with a new one. No, you did.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Don't give me any credit. It's all you. We are one. We are one comedic thing. But I just think that this is your talent. And I have respect for that. Do you want the royalties or not? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I think it's yours. I have. Whatever. I came up with this. I have, I, whatever. I came up with the song. Matt came up with the song, go. Here's my jingle for Provincetown. Provincetown, we're gonna see you there. And I think what you have to remember to do when you sing it, like you will.
Starting point is 00:05:00 There. It's not, we're gonna see you there or there. No, it's Provincetown, we're gonna see you there or there no no province town we're gonna see you and open it up like you're opening up your arms to the queer community oh my god that is so music is in the details bowen it's actually real culture number 44. music is in the details. Bowen. Bowen. Now, I would be thrilled to go. I'm sure people will really, really, really be eager to share their tips. I would happily take them. Yeah. I wonder how
Starting point is 00:05:38 long we stay there because look, we're both busy girls and we both kind of have our spiritual connection connection especially in this upcoming summer to One Fire Island. That's true. Do we have to sort of get on that as they say? Because aren't the houses sort of going and going? I don't anticipate being in a house this summer, unfortunately. Oh! Well, I have
Starting point is 00:05:57 a couple friends who are looking into it for themselves, but they're going they're a very Pines Party forward house, which I don I consider myself to necessarily be your Joe Kim boosters his ilk those are the people who really enjoy
Starting point is 00:06:15 that's sort of gross sort of grotesque feverish party boy gross grotesque feverish party boy that grotesque feverish party boy that's Joel Kim we love that I know he's laughing right now listening to this giggling even
Starting point is 00:06:31 or he's frowning going those fucking idiots calling me gross well fucking them but do you know what I'm saying I feel like you and I have such a spiritual connection to the island in a way that basically every gay man in America does. Yeah, we got to go back this year.
Starting point is 00:06:50 This is our big Fire Island moment. This is our big Fire Island moment. I'm laughing. I think some way, somehow, you and I will do the double header this summer of Fire Island and Provincetown, which I think I'm long overdue for and I am so excited for that experience. Me too. Very, very. And I also feel like
Starting point is 00:07:13 I gotta get you back out to Palm Springs. You gotta get me back out to Palm Springs, girl. I gotta get this one back out to Palm Springs if it's the last thing I do, okay? Palm Springs where I iconically experienced my first and only earthquake. At that restaurant. Wow. Yeah, weically experienced my first and only earthquake. At that restaurant. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, we were at. Remember that? We were at Tropical. Tropical with Mitra and Sandy. Yes. And the restaurant swayed everyone. It was really truly an earthquake. It was an earthquake and we were very, very high on marijuana.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yes. And there was an earthquake and I was eating my appetizer and next to me, it felt like we were in like upholstered booth seating. Yes, we were. The earthquake made me feel like Sandy Honig was next to me
Starting point is 00:07:54 shaking her ass. I was like, why is Sandy like twerking in the booth? Turns out. And it wasn't even that. It was a seismic tectonic shift. That's what it was. That's wasn't even that. It was a seismic tectonic shift.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's what it was. That's what they call it. A seismic tectonic shift. Frontrunner for title of that, first of all. Speaking of which, do you feel like there was any seismic tectonic shifts in your life? You're about to go and embark on something seismic. I'm about to go embark on something seismic.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I'm starting work tomorrow, so that's exciting. And I'm really excited that you're going to be here for such a long time because Bowen's coming here to shoot a project, and so we're going to be in person. So guess what? The next maybe three, four eps of Lost Cult Recess are going to be in-person eps because you know the girls are going to log them up.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Log them up, and who knows? We might have a guest or two if the logistics work themselves out. Am I going to be able to see you, girl? like you're gonna be so busy on the weekends yes the shooting life is tough well i yeah it's not gonna happen monday through friday doll okay but the weekends it's gonna be all about quality time and actually can i tell you there's actually a big weekend coming up that oh i get more and more disappointed that you're not coming. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:07 For my birthday readers, me and an army of gay men are going to see Katy Perry play Vegas. I can't wait for you. I am so excited. I am beyond. It is. Can I say something to you? You'll be very happy to hear this. I want to hear a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And there's not a lot to share. I just want to share with you that today I did put on the song Daisies by Katy Perry. And I did go, this is an incredible song. It's one of the best songs that's come out. I agree. It's one of America's great musical offerings. Do we need, we might have to release a new American songbook. We did that.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Remember the day before Election Day 2020? Is that our 300th episode? The Great American Songbook? Yes! Oh my god. We're coming up at 300. There will be 300 songs inducted into the Great American Songbook.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And then the songs will include audio, will include sounds. There's going to be lots of covers. There's going to be covers, but there's going to be soundbites, I'm saying. Yes. Yes. Yes. We know that Adele Dazeem was the top moment of culture, but the soundbite,
Starting point is 00:10:21 the wickedly talented Adele Dazeem might be in the American Songbook. It might be. We can't say at this point. It's not up to us. Everyone knows, all the readers know that these things that we do, like the top 200 moments in culture, the awards nominations,
Starting point is 00:10:36 none of it is up to us. You know what I mean? You have to campaign. You have to campaign, but I don't think it's the American Songbook. Here's my pitch. Okay, pitch. The global songbook. Las Culturistas global songbook.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Las Culturistas presents the 300 songs in the global songbook. In the great global songbook. That's it. Okay, that's it. Wow. Oh my god, I'm so excited! Me too. This is going to be one of the most important moments in podcast culture history and i want to say something lots of people had a lot
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Starting point is 00:11:49 can I tell you what my brief interaction with Katie was absolutely what if I said no you can't tell me what if I was like I don't want to know that well be an imposter first of all she turned to me in 80 at good nights for dress
Starting point is 00:12:05 rehearsal she was like go to bed bitch that bit was so good it was very silly I Marco pull out 80 about it haven't heard back she's not really on Marco Polo these days but just keep bugging her I am gonna so air we hug each other
Starting point is 00:12:21 and I say I have to tell you something and then she goes no no she was being funny she was like no no and I was like no no no I have to tell you something it's good I said my best friend in the whole world
Starting point is 00:12:35 shut up you told her yes you wanted me to tell her didn't you oh my god I didn't think you would of course okay so I was like my best friend in the whole world. He's turning 32? 31? 32. I didn't say your age. Wait, wait, I can start over.
Starting point is 00:12:52 No, you can say my age. Don't start over. I want everyone to know how old I am. 32. A woman of age. A woman of age. I said, my best friend in the world is turning 32. He's going to your Vegas show at the end of February. And he was the blue... He was the alien and not the end of february and he was the blue he was the alien and not the end of the world and he and her immediately she was like oh my god you have
Starting point is 00:13:11 to tell him he was so funny he was like she immediately remembered she was like oh my god that's so special and then that was it i'm bringing an army of faggots to her show and on my birthday it is truly going to be so fun. And I'm trying not to watch too many clips because everyone knows, all the readers know I'm a big old Katie cat. Do you know the set list? I do. Is she singing Thinking of You?
Starting point is 00:13:36 She's not. What? She's not doing Thinking of You, which is because I think it's not the vibe. The fact that she's not doing Waking Up in Vegas is also like I think she is now. I don't know. I think it's not the vibe. The fact that she's not doing Waking Up in Vegas is also like... I think she is now. I don't know. I think it's like... I actually don't have correct information on whether or not she is or is not doing Waking Up in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Because I was... The set list that I saw, it wasn't on it. And then, like... I'm upset. I haven't been able to stop thinking about that. I'm literally looking up right now. Katy Perry play set list. And now let's see if Waking Up
Starting point is 00:14:08 in Vegas is on here because it would be insane. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. You lied to me and I've believed for weeks that she wasn't singing Waking Up in Vegas in her Vegas show. You know, something was amiss with that from the very beginning because why would she
Starting point is 00:14:24 not do that? I enjoyed her performances on the show. I like, and I'm excited to go see her be peak stupid Katie. Like singing with a piece of poop in the toilet and shit. I'm like all about it. I might be in the stratosphere in terms of inebriated.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Do you think this is like her signaling the return to that Katie? Like I feel like there is an inflection point to be had here potentially where she moves forward in her career, kind of revisiting that. And I think When I'm Gone kind of feels like new and old at the same time in a very good way. I think that the Smile album was kind of her being like a silly clown. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, but something for me, I thought was missing. Right. Yeah. I would say that there are five. I actually sent, Bone and I were talking the other day, and we were talking about Katie, and I was like, I think there's five really solid tracks on that album, which is more than Witness and not as much as Prism.
Starting point is 00:15:27 So it exists down there. Because the back half of Prism fucking slaps. Back half of Prism is great. I think Prism overall starts to finish as a great album. Love Prism. Witness has some decent tracks. I mean, I like Bon Appetit a lot. I love Bon Appetit.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Are you kidding me? I love Swish Swish. I love Sw I like Bon Appetit a lot. I love Bon Appetit. Are you kidding me? I love Swish Swish. I love Swish Swish too. And I actually found myself in the airport the other day, like really sort of living my life to Swish Swish. It was sort of surreal. Absolutely. Katy Perry is a surrealist
Starting point is 00:16:00 artist. 100%. Magritte down boots. It's actually Rural Culture number 99. Katy Perry is Magritte Down Boots. Do you think that Katy Perry will have songs in the Great Global Songbook?
Starting point is 00:16:16 I think she might have several. I think that we can confirm. Can you predict, oh we can confirm that Katy will make an appearance on the list? Can I say that, just to start,
Starting point is 00:16:29 just to go back to the weekend I've been with 80, I mean, we have our next category is something that I pulled directly from Lost Cult Lexicon. You realize that?
Starting point is 00:16:37 Oh, it felt familiar to me. Say more. I'm not, I'm not saying anything shady. I'm just saying it felt familiar to me. You are being shady. No, I'm not. I loved it'm just saying it felt familiar to me you are being shady no I'm not I loved it I loved it so much
Starting point is 00:16:48 I love when I feel like I'm being spoken to by you on the show there have been times when I see you on update and I feel like he's doing that for me I'm not even gonna I did a lot of that for the one last week for Chen Biao I did there was a lot of
Starting point is 00:17:04 I mean that was like the last two updates I prefer to be out. I, I did. I, there was a lot of, I mean, that was like the last two updates. I'm just going to say little love letters to the readers. you know what my, what people don't know is, is when I had my nose surgery, that was the week you did iceberg. And you told me earlier in the day, you're like,
Starting point is 00:17:19 I'm doing this one just to you. I, that's why he got the Emmy nomination. Cause he was doing it to me. I was doing it to Matt because I was like, because I really went into that update being like, no one is going to get this. You knew I would get it. I was like, Matt is going to like this. I don't know what anyone
Starting point is 00:17:35 else, not that no one would get this. I was like, I don't think people are going to, I don't know what people are going to think about this. And then it was so I was just doing that to Mr. Matt Raja. Let me tell tell you i'm sitting here on the couch convalescing and laughing but not too hard because my nose was so sore from the from the invasive uh traumatic surgery i had i'm so excited for this birthday trip oh yeah no i'm really i really wish you were coming it's such a bummer but um it's it's gonna be so fun we're
Starting point is 00:18:04 like we just booked like the hotel today. And like, let's, what is your Vegas experiences? I have not been since I was in high school. Let me tell you, every time I go, it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Something happens every time I go where I'm like, okay, that shook me. Can you give some context? I mean, famously when I went, when I was on Millionaire. Oh my God, Millionaire.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And had my, like, the start of my rivalry with Chris Harrison. Was this, was that the last time you've been? No. No. I've been since, and it's just been like, like when I went to go see Christina Aguilera with Dave. Yes. And you guys got wasted and went to P.F. Chang's.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It was surreal. Got wasted, went to P.F. Chang chang's after ordered two hot and sour soups oh yum took those to the head and i'm telling you like if kate if katie gives anything similar to what christina gave it's going to be a joyous event but i will say katie's incredible and she's going to be doing more like i think of like a like a scripted show like it seems there's a lot going on christina was doing a lot of talking to the fans like which actually allowed her to
Starting point is 00:19:10 do a lot of my favorite tick of hers was she ha haing the whole time let me tell you something she goes I have to say this is an amazing night and I know that so many of you are queer and I just want to know I want you to tell
Starting point is 00:19:26 you that I know that the love that I get from the queer community is like nothing else so thank you guys so much and I was just like we were because it truly was only gay man at the Christina show so funny Bowen Dave and I were we were
Starting point is 00:19:42 screaming I think I cried actually I was like because I was that I was that, I was that one in the mosh pit being like, I love you, Christina. And she was like, haha, love you too, baby. And I met every, every word I said. Of course you did. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Wait, the only thing I've done, like the only thing I've done recently like that has been, do you remember this? We went to the season seven finale of RuPaul's Drag Race. Oh my God. Not the finale, but the New York show where they announced, and Bianca Del Rio was hosting, but then Shangela came out afterwards.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yes, yes, yes. And I was so drunk. And you were with me there, right? But I was so drunk. And Shangler was just like i just had the mic was in the middle of just like talking i guess and there was just there was she was hosting there was a couple lulls where at one point i just went i just shouted at the top of my lungs and then she she was like holly loo like she like every holly loo
Starting point is 00:20:44 from the audience, she had to give back. She acknowledged with a Holly Lou. She's a professional. She is the professional. You know, I'm actually going to ask Jennifer Lewis when I meet her if Shangela is still living with her. Because isn't that a thing?
Starting point is 00:20:58 I think it's a thing. Well, they're very good friends. Yeah. Well, Shangela nailed Snatch Game as Jennifer Lewis. We've sort of stumbled on the topic of Drag Race. What did you think of the Night of a Thousand J-Los? I thought it was okay. You know, I watched it from
Starting point is 00:21:14 a very depleted place and so maybe I'm not the best person. And what's Santa saying? It is a thing. And two years ago when she was on my show, she said she did still live with her. Oh, so maybe DJs. Oh, wow. Shangela Pierce does still live with Jennifer Lewis.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But I'm going to get clarity on that. You'll get clarity. Yeah, you didn't like the episode. I didn't like the episode overall. Is that bad? I feel like I, I don't know. I just didn't, I wasn't really impressed. You want to know what I liked about it?
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like if we're going to do an acting challenge, I'm happy they did a twist and it was the super cut. Because I did think it was funnier and I laughed i did laugh a lot during it it felt like maybe they like i don't know they just went for the joke a little bit more just kind of like work a little bit more clever this time the only part that sucked about it for me was the run the night of a thousand j-lo runway i feel like the drag queens that come on the show rupaul's drag race the television program rupaul Drag Race, do this night of a thousand, insert
Starting point is 00:22:08 celebrity here runway from a place of fear ever since the Madonna thing. So they're all scared to pick like actually iconic famous looks and you end up seeing them in like, oh, 2002 Teen Choice Awards presenter. It's like, what the fuck is this? It's like we didn't get any iconic
Starting point is 00:22:24 JLo. The only one that was bold enough to actually go for was Carrie, and then they put her in the bottom, which I thought was stupid. Carrie was actually one of the only queens making me laugh. 100%. She was one of the only funny ones. I feel like she was making a choice in all the
Starting point is 00:22:39 takes when they were like, you know, Jasmine had to reset. It was Carrie being like, whatever. It's like, girl, you need had to reset. Like, it was Carrie being like, whatever. It's like, girl, you need to be quiet or whatever. Like, whatever her line was. Every single take, I was like, she's nailing this. I thought she was nailing it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I don't know. And then it was like, I didn't understand what their problem was with her performance. And then for her to be in the bottom when she was the only one who came out there looking like Jennifer Lopez herself. I was like, you know, they did an okay job. It's just, and also maybe it's a thing of, and tell me what you think about this. Not every celebrity like is, you know, deserving of a night of a thousand. And you're saying you're not sure if JLo deserves that?
Starting point is 00:23:18 I don't think JLo is necessarily known for her many iconic looks. I think that JLo is known for being an incredible performer and for having great style and a strong aesthetic. But I don't know that she is like a Madonna or a Britney where you can do night of a thousand of them and it's going to be like, feel the same. Do you agree? Right. Because when I hear when I hear the words night of a thousand, I think, you know, Stevie Nicks like like this is just a random assortment of like literal events that have happened around that like like events that have been like nine of a thousand stevie nicks nine of a thousand a thousand judys lizas you know like you could do gaga you could do like barbara yeah they have did they did they do gaga oh they did yeah they
Starting point is 00:24:01 did that pageant that's right that's right. J-Lo. Yeah, it's interesting. There are like indelible looks to be sure. And I'm like, why didn't anyone do like a hustler's look? Like Bigfoot coat? Or like no one came out and did like Jenny from the Black Big Hoops and like the little boy newsboy hat. Like I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Like no one did. J-Lo? J-Lo is like a very specified aesthetic though enough so that I think the runway category is justified. I just think you're right. These girls have been scared since the Madonna kimono incident. Since the kimono gate. Since kimono gate.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So that's why I was like, just for being bold enough to even come out in the Versace Yeah, why is she being penalized for that? She should be celebrated. She was the drag queen on the show that said, I'm actually not going to be afraid of what everyone else brings. And then the fact that she
Starting point is 00:24:51 was in the actual dress was insane. I know. I was like, I watched it with James Scully. We were with Stone and we were like, wait, what? Did she just say that that's the actual dress? We were like so incredulous. and I'm sorry not to be toxic I did not get
Starting point is 00:25:08 the praise for for Deja I didn't understand it at all I was like she wasn't I was like the line readings were bad no I didn't understand that at all and Jeria and Jeria I was like yes winner yeah of course I'm gonna go ahead and say Willow I was a little bit like
Starting point is 00:25:23 wait what's going on here I loved Willow I to go ahead and say Willow. I was a little bit like, wait, what's going on here? I loved Willow. She had me with the Daily Mail Voucher. Daily Mail Voucher was funny. I was just kind of like, maybe I was just, again, I was like not in a good headspace to watch an episode of Drag Race. Maybe you weren't. I will say like Willow Pill, when they were like,
Starting point is 00:25:41 why did you pick this look? And she was like, oh, because it's kind of ugly. Perfect. pill when they were like why did you pick this look and she was like oh because it's kind of ugly and perfect no she's she she is she lives up to like the hype the moment she is like someone who like is the like weirdo you know but like does it well and like is gorgeous and like really is smart about her her presentation and her comedy and and all that stuff. And she's my pick to win, even though I do think Cornbread is the star. Cornbread's bothering me. You think? Oh, is it because of the conflict?
Starting point is 00:26:14 The conflict was silly and stupid, but it just feels, I don't know, it just feels like so far it's been dominated by Cornbread in a way. And I'm concerned about cornbreads runway presentations. Yeah. There's some, there's an element of danger there that I'm like, uh, maybe this needs to,
Starting point is 00:26:35 and honestly, also another thing is the fact that she's occupying this much narrative space may mean they're like mining her of what she gives before she gets eliminated. You know what I mean? Because like mining her of what she gives before she gets eliminated. You know what I mean? Because like I said, it's taking up a lot of space and the runway presentations are a little jarring. But her
Starting point is 00:26:53 performance skills are certainly great. I don't know. It's actually really difficult for me to watch this season as long as Maddie, what's his face? Maddie is still there. Okay, but I will say I did laugh when
Starting point is 00:27:09 Maddie Morphosis came out in J-Lo inauguration look. I was like, again, that did make me laugh. That's not knowingly funny, though. I think it might be a little knowingly funny. No, I don't think, I think it's Maddie as a straight dude being like, wow, what are the judges like?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Mm. J-Lo's look from the inauguration. Like, I don't know. I don't. Trust me. I you know how I feel about Maddie Morpheus is being on the show. I don't think Maddie has that sense of irony. You know, I really don't. You might be right.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I definitely laughed at it as if it were funny and on purpose, but maybe you're right. What would you have chosen for a night of a thousand J.Lo runways? I would have been big fur coat. Yeah. And also that like laid hair. Yeah. Like, why not?
Starting point is 00:28:00 What would you have done? I think I would have done... Oh, I would have done Selena. I would have done like, honestly, that was something that you could like a nod to like J-Lo and Selena. You know what I mean? Maybe that purple Selena look, the like iconic body suit that she wore when she performed in the stadium. That or honestly, maybe. So on the album cover, she has this insane oh my god yes i know what you're talking about that that that dress is iconic and it's so hot and someone
Starting point is 00:28:35 like jasmine kennedy could have absolutely killed that because she got those big old titties yeah but um that look on the aka album cover is fucking amazing. But also, I don't know, maybe like get creative and do one of her looks from like The Cell or come out as like Made in Manhattan. I was going to say Made in Manhattan or like the, I think she has like an all denim look on one of her album covers. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah. Also like come out in a bikini with that tiny little top knot and have like, find a way to like, like a Candy Muse style, make a blow-up doll of Ben Affleck kissing your ass. Oh, also the On The Sticks album cover is iconic where she's in the little underwear.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah. You could have done something really simple and streamlined, but still so impactful. If you come out in that look on the runway, everyone's going to be like, oh my God, amazing. Meanwhile, it's like, okay okay here's um you know can deja here's deja sky and something we pulled from getty getty images much music awards hit radio i was like what is girls like i yeah i i don't know i i
Starting point is 00:29:42 there was no fly girl looks. Like, there was nothing. And now the more I'm talking about it, the more actually I feel J-Lo is deserving of it. That's what I'm saying. I think the aesthetic is so specific. Yeah. J-Lo, that like, I don't know. And J-Lo, iconic. This fall on Bravo.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We'll be right back. gets out of your life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his
Starting point is 00:30:42 mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them, and we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Grunks? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:04 We got dogs. Dogs. We'll freaks. Or dudes dude. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional
Starting point is 00:32:59 dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. What would you do for a night of a thousand Brittneys? Oh, that's so hard. That's so hard. It is hard. I guess I would do something from you know no this is this is like my shitty answer it's not my real answer but the thing that i i'm thinking of this is me like maybe being like a
Starting point is 00:33:54 little too scared of the obvious stuff but i would do like because the music video for break the ice from blackout was not a music it was an anime yes yes yes and i would just wear like she wears she wears this like blue like fucking like high collar like leather plastic latex shirt like a top and i'm like and her hair is perfectly cute and i'm like i would do that but that's not that's that's a terrible answer what's yours it's not a terrible answer i mean i i think i would do the the flight attendant from toxic yeah that's mean, that's classic. Oh, no, I know. Twink from Q-Force wears that outfit. Twink from Q-Force.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I was going to say, Twink does that. This is mine. Okay. Because I just rewatched this video. Sometimes. I was just going to say, sometimes would be such a good idea. You could do the lowest cut pants
Starting point is 00:34:42 and the highest cut top. From right under your nipples to right where your crotch would show. Just bare with the beach ball and running stupid. That's so fun. I love that video. The reason I watched
Starting point is 00:35:00 it was because I took a Peloton class and Cody Rigsby said that one of the dancers scratches their crotch very obviously. And he was like, go and watch it if you don't believe me. And I went and watched it and I couldn't find it. And I feel like I was kind of scammed out of my time by Cody Rigsby.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Are you saying right now that Cody Rigsby lied? He lied to me. And we're beefing. You're beefing with Cody Rigsby? I'm beefing with Cody Rigsby? He was a liar to people who paid to take his class? Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. This is... There's nothing
Starting point is 00:35:32 worse than that. No, and can I tell you something? You can tell me anything. This is the cis gay male feud that people have been waiting for. Bowen Yang and Cody Rigsby. Who will win? I don't know, Bowenen he has a lot of people that love to ride alongside him well i'm one of them and this is this is this is the sort of the
Starting point is 00:35:51 drama and the tension of it all is that i'm one of his acolytes but he wasn't he wasn't dancing with the stars he was exposed to a lot of people he's got mom fans now he is the he is the king did i tell you that the other day i had people going that i was that i got asked to be on He's got mom fans now. He is the king. Did I tell you that the other day I had people going that I got asked to be on Dancing with the Stars? Wait, what? I woke up and I was feeling real frisky. And I was like, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to fuck with Jared.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So I texted Jared. What? I said, oh my God. Why did you do this? I just got the offer to be on Dancing with the Stars. That's so annoying. Fuck you. I did it to Joel too. And be on dancing. That's so annoying. Fuck you. I did it to Joel too.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And I had Joel going back and forth for like four texts. Because one time Joel and I like, I forget how it came up. He made a joke. We were like stoned or something. And he was like, what if they asked you to be on dancing with the stars? Would you do it?
Starting point is 00:36:39 I was like, I don't think I would. He's like, I think you would have to. I was like, no, I can tell you right now. Because I wouldn't be good at it. And I think it would be, I just wouldn't feel have to I was like no I can tell you right now because I wouldn't be good at it and I think it would be I just wouldn't feel good I was like would you go on and he said he said no but maybe he's changed his mind but it planted the seed enough that I was like feeling like it like a jerk like and I was just like I'm gonna get people going so I literally said to Sharon I was like oh my god my team just called with the offer for Dancing with the Stars. And he was like, oh my God, what are you going to do it?
Starting point is 00:37:08 I was like, I think so. Yeah, I just have to. And I go, I just have to ask them to write me out if I love that for you. And he goes, what? And I was like, yeah, I think I'm going to do the first four episodes and then I'll just have them write me out. And he's like, can I call you? And I was like, no, no, no. I'm on the team.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I'm on the call with my team right now. He was being a really good friend. He goes, can I call you? I was like no no no i'm on the team i'm on the call with my team right now he was being a really good friend he goes can i call you i was like i'm on the phone with my team right now like and we're gonna like confirm it and like and and he was like they think you should do dancing with the stars instead of vanessa show and i was like yeah they said that it's so many it's it's like abc it's like so many people are gonna see it'll change my whole career like i'll just get ridden out of the show. And then he was like, I can't believe this. I don't think you should do it. And I was like, Jared, it's a joke. But I had him
Starting point is 00:37:49 going for like hours. Episode four of this very podcast, Jamie Stolar was the guest. We went on and on about how people who prank shit like this are bad. Okay. It was a little innocent fun. No, that's not innocent. It was pure
Starting point is 00:38:05 innocent fun. And you had to make it drama. You're talking like a housewife. Speaking of which, I don't think we fully... Okay, so the Jenny Nguyen situation keeps getting weirder. We have not addressed it in full. We talked about it briefly when Sean Hayes was
Starting point is 00:38:22 on last week. Sure did. So this Michael guy who was on her live, I still have not watched the live. I've just read articles. This is what happened for everyone that doesn't know. So Jenny, when we all know she fired off, popped off with those racist anti black lives matter posts in truly the
Starting point is 00:38:40 late summer, early fall of 2020. So then she gets fired from the show and we still have to watch her for the next few weeks, blah, blah, blah. But she went on live and she got her like black friend to sit next to her. And basically the tone of what she said was,
Starting point is 00:38:57 I just want to let everyone know that I take full accountability for what I did. However, I did have people doing my Facebook at the time and I don't remember posting it. But also I know that it's- Why would she posting it but also i know that a team why would my team there's no reason for her to and she was like but i just also want to tell you that i take full accountability because it is on my page but also i don't remember doing it and it wasn't me but i take full accountability but also you should know here's by the way here's my black friend and you should know that i am a republican who's proud of that and i do believe everything that was posted.
Starting point is 00:39:26 She basically was like... So, I don't take any responsibility for someone... No, she went, I take full responsibility for someone else posting things that fully align with my values. Yeah. She's truly one of the stupid...
Starting point is 00:39:41 I said to you and Joel, and this might be a little unfair, I knew from day one that she was that one of the stupid I said to you and Joel and this might be a little unfair I knew from day one that she was that kind of Asian and what do you mean by that? like the kind of the person who is the Asian person who is like so obsessed
Starting point is 00:39:57 with this kind of upward mobility to the extent that their politics are so fucking horrid and then they post fucking QAnon adjacent bullshit like my mom is friends with these women and I had to
Starting point is 00:40:14 talk to my mom whatever I don't have to get into it my mom's fine but I had to be like mom you can't read all this crazy shit on fucking like WeChat and stuff that like your college friends post they're basically like posting the same shit that Jenny would post. I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:29 like I'm like these, these, there's this generation of, I don't know, of like, unfortunately, like Asian immigrants who like are just so fucking pilled by like the worst corners of the internet. And I just think that I smelled that off of Jenny and, pilled by like the worst corners of the internet and um I
Starting point is 00:40:46 just think that I smell that off of Jenny and and fucking Dewey for that matter from day I mean that story the sister wife story like I think it was one of one of Jenny's relatives who was like this is all made up it was her niece her niece who went on tiktok and was like um I have some information
Starting point is 00:41:02 about one of the housewives and she said they've she's certainly fake storylines and she doesn't um she's not the person that she claims to be and how do i know this well because she's my aunt and she lived with my family for a while my my parents would help her out all the time when she needed help so basically she got yeah dragged and she broke her husband's ribs this is like not a well but this person is unwell, you know? I just did, I didn't like her from the beginning, and the good news is, you know, and then I understand
Starting point is 00:41:30 why everyone was like, Bravo did not quickly enough, Bravo did not quickly enough, but they did fire her within three days. I mean, like, could it have been faster? Yes. I mean, I don't know what kind of, like, what more you need to see once that's true. Because they're shooting season three now.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And they had been shooting with her. Yeah. They had been shooting with her. So I don't know. We don't know. We don't have any visibility on like what that process is. But what I love is this, this poor fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'm just reading this quote over time. I did have to educate her on the whole black lives matter and everything like that because I'm a gay black man, so I live it every day. And then he said, anybody that's saying she paid me to be here or she pulled the front card, I see all your comments. Like, this is so sad to me. I just feel like it's really, it is really weird. And also, she didn't, this is a weird thing to me. And like, not to like barometer on people's i always wonder why when things happen to people like this why they don't get on instagram
Starting point is 00:42:31 live and say something like why they don't actually show their faces if they're actually contrite or if they actually didn't do something and get out there and be like hi this is me telling you from myself from me to you that this did not happen and then i realized when i watched that i was like oh this is why they don't do it it's too chaotic it just yeah she looked really bad she wasn't elegant or eloquent about what she was saying or explaining and it was um i was like oh this is why you need people to be able to handle this for you. And because they're also inherently stupid in the first place, which is why a lot of them get into these messes.
Starting point is 00:43:10 You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. Jenny, like, sorry. I don't know. Bye. Like, there is, I wonder how the show continues just generally. There's just so much
Starting point is 00:43:28 news about it this year. I mean, should we read the Lisa Barlow quote? I think this is how it's going to continue. I don't know this Lisa Barlow quote. Oh, Bowen. So basically she's on a hot mic in this week's episode. By the way, everyone, we're recording this
Starting point is 00:43:44 on Sunday. She's talked half New York? Yeah. Have you read this full thing? I have not read the full thing. Can you send it to me and I can read it out loud and react to it in real time? Yeah. Wait.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Hold on. I have to find it. We're about to watch the episode of my sister. My sister's putting her kids to bed and then we're going to watch. Is Yang a viewer of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? Yang is a viewer of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Okay, here it is. Full quote of what Lisa Barlow said.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Can you send it to me? I want to read it. All right. Do you want to read it? Can you want to send it to me? Oh, you want to read it together. I'll read it out loud. We're going to read it together
Starting point is 00:44:20 like we did Nicole Kidman's... AMC. AMC. Okay, here we go. Meredith can go fuck herself. I'm done with her. Because I'm not a fucking whore and I don't cheat on my husband.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Her and her dumb fucking family that poses. Why don't you own a house? Oh, wait, you can't because your husband changes jobs every five minutes. Meredith is a piece of fucking shit. I had your back and I'm offended by that. Fuck you. That fucking piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Garbage whore. I fucking hate her. She's a whore. She fucked half of New York. She can go. Fuck herself. That is so, I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:59 can you imagine if you heard of an audio clip of me saying that about you? I know I, I, my, my chest just tightened. Can you imagine if you heard an audio clip of me saying that about you? No. My chest just tightened. I was just like, oh my god. Have you ever heard your best friend talk about you like that? What does this mean for us? Are we no longer the Meredith and Lisa?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Are we like... Not after this. No, Lisa, I don't identify with this one, but I, I've told you in Joel that I find myself identifying more and more with Lisa, not identifying, but sympathizing with her. I happen to like Lisa this season.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I did not care for her at all last season. And it's totally flipped for me with Meredith. Now I was loving mayor. Now I am like, she is just as unwell if not more than Junshaw the fucking Zion trip the Zion house the way she was slurring and like
Starting point is 00:45:51 melting down at every single turn I was like this woman needs to seek help she really cracked and I did love watching it it was scary but didn't you love that episode? I loved it by the end of it.
Starting point is 00:46:06 It was like they were fucking raging. That was a beautiful moment. And that episode is actually truly incredible. I mean, this whole season, make no mistake, and we have emphasized again and again, is incredible. An incredible season of television. Period.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Truly. Also, Bowen, speaking of Bravo, you need to catch up on Project Runway because the next week is the finale and it's a really good season. Okay, I will, I will. And I know a lot of the publicists and the readers are like hitting you up
Starting point is 00:46:34 for your opinions. And this is the power you hold. Well, they want it. I got a DM, not a DM, I got a message on Twitter to the Lost Coach thing. It was like, Matt, can you talk about how passionate and emotional and straightforward and earnest
Starting point is 00:46:49 the contestants are this year on Project Runway? And I was like, yes, I can say that they really are. And I'm so proud of all four of them, all four of the finalists. We're very proud. I don't even know them and I'm so proud. Oh, they're so good. I just like, I love Project Runway.
Starting point is 00:47:04 There's something, I was watching it and, you know, it ended and they chose the finalists. And there's something really emotional about it. Like, because they really put so much with fashion and like imbuing clothing with your. So vulnerable. It's very vulnerable. And it's also, it's true art. And they're very passionate about it. They work hard.
Starting point is 00:47:27 They sweat in those rooms to do it. And it's just I think out of all the reality shows where there's it's the competition is a craft. I think that Project Runway is just my favorite. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute.
Starting point is 00:47:58 She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that. Like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:49:11 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and dude and dudes on dudes is our brand new show we're gonna highlight players peers guys that we played
Starting point is 00:49:32 against legends from the past and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them and we'll get into the types of dudes what kind of types of dudes are there girls we got studs wizards we got freaks or dudes dude we got dogs dog We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian, Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian, Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Starting point is 00:50:50 At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I hit a wall with like baking stuff. The thing with food shows for me, and I love Top Chef,
Starting point is 00:51:19 and God knows we love Padma. But you just, there's just, you simply run eye rub on the fact that you can't taste it. And with fashion, it's not that you like, are like,
Starting point is 00:51:31 I can't wear that. It's that you're just, I get to see, I get to appreciate the beauty. Yes. And I'm telling you, that Housewives episode of Project Runway this year
Starting point is 00:51:39 was my favorite episode of television of the whole year. Wow. Amazing. When they came out on the runway, when Giselle hit the runway looking like she had discovered good clothing for the first time in her life,
Starting point is 00:51:51 I was like, see, this is what it needs to be. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But anyway, if I,
Starting point is 00:51:57 if I ever heard you on a hot mic talking about me like that, we'd have to have a sit down, dear. I there's it's open and shut. There's no, there's no talking it over. It's we down dear i there's it's open and shut there's no there's no talking it over it's we're done that's what's i guess going to be interesting about the finale is like you're just going to watch two people who are like yeah that's what you think about me cool now i know where we stand after 10 years oh my god i can't oh my god matt. I cannot imagine a world in which I say anything.
Starting point is 00:52:25 That's why, Bowen, no matter what, we can't say yes to a reality show. I know. They're going to pitch it to us. One of these networks is going to want us to do a reality show. No, but... And we can't say yes.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Not even how much fame we want. It doesn't matter how much fame we want. I don't know what you really mean by this. Bowen, it's going to happen. They're going to come to us and they're gonna say we what kind of show it would be a show about us about our job and we can't say yes mo okay not even no not even how much fame we want no i know and i know that i'm just talking to you now i know all you want is to be so famous yeah and i know and reality TV is the ticket, babe. But we can't do that to our friendship.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Because it will end on reality show. And I will sit across from you at a reunion and I will cry a single chunky tear and I'll say, I fucking told you. Oh my God. Because you wanted fame. Here we are. Oh my God. Before we, we're going to keep the episode a little short today this week no one's visiting family and they have big salt lake city plans well also and you you have you have a big
Starting point is 00:53:31 day tomorrow that's true um do we want to do a quick check-in on and just like that i mean sure can i tell you this was the only episode that i really liked since the first couple and and that's that's a that's a lie I've enjoyed every single episode I've watched it's just that I ask was it good at the end and I'm sort of like I don't know but this episode I thought was genuinely
Starting point is 00:53:55 good because I love that all the women are finally meeting and I love that there's mixing matching and I also I don't know what happened but when Carrie and Steve were in that scene together all of a sudden I found myself like oh my god I want Carrie and Steve to fuck I think a lot of people are feeling that way
Starting point is 00:54:11 a lot of people are rooting and shipping Carrie and Steve my third grade boner is hard for it I forget if it was all I do on this show is like quote like an article someone else wrote but someone did write a piece about how like, we're still doing this in TV.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Like an episode, episode nine is, Oh my God, you're that person. Oh, it's so nice to meet you. Like, no,
Starting point is 00:54:33 like people like, that's not how people meet these days anymore. You know, like these women like peripherally know about the, you know, it's like, I'm sure like Carrie knows about LTW, but you know,
Starting point is 00:54:44 but you know what I mean? Oh no, no, no, no, no. I mean like LTW would know about naya maybe i don't know i don't know new york city is pretty big you're right and that's the thing is like they've kept them so separate that it's like that the fact that they were just meeting now i was like oh wow they're just meeting now it's absolutely niner i will say I really liked that all the women seemed to push forward in some way like I liked whatever chemistry was happening between
Starting point is 00:55:12 Nicole Ari Parker and Karen Pittman in the scene where Naya meets LTW and LTW is like coming out of a limo and you know she's like let me just call my caterer that I'm on the phone with in two seconds and get food down here and then the truck show up and it was just like juxtaposed with karen's um husband basically telling her like i'm sorry it actually comes down to i want a child and that's period
Starting point is 00:55:35 what i realized is that actually these women have been fleshed out a little bit better than i thought because they were compelling to me like Like that scene where they broke up, Karen Pittman and her husband, or Dr. Naya Wallace and her husband, I found myself emotionally affected by it. And I think it's because Karen is an incredible actor. She's an incredible actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Truly. It was the end of last episode where Miranda and Steve break up, right? Yes. He was asked for a divorce last episode and so now this is the episode where you know it's the it's i guess this is the first time that he's talked to carrie about it and i don't know there was something in that scene where i was just like uh-huh i found myself i can't tell if it's me now cheering on the third grade mentality of how I feel some shows are written or I actually wanted it
Starting point is 00:56:25 to happen but it is to be clear I think it's very third grader for them to be like what if we put Steve you know like it's taking a Barbie and putting it with a new Barbie and being like now they're married yeah which like
Starting point is 00:56:40 it only used to happen on like Grey's Anatomy you know like that's which was my mom's big happen on Grey's Anatomy. Which was my mom's big note about Grey's Anatomy back in the day. I remember we were watching it and she was like, I gotta say, I hate this show. And I was like, what? Katrina, why? She was like, this one's sleeping with that one.
Starting point is 00:56:59 That one's sleeping with this one. It's like, give me a break. They have to do work. Meanwhile, this one's sleeping with that one. Now this one's with that one. Now that one's gay this one's that i was i was like you know what you're absolutely 100 right and uh but i love that part it's fun i feel like i can't um figure out how much of that works in and just like that. It's so... Just to stay on the topic of Katrina
Starting point is 00:57:28 for a second, it's so funny to hear parent movie reviews sometimes. They saw Licorice Pizza and they go, we didn't get it at all. I thought that could have been a good movie. But I didn't get it at all. There are a lot of plot that they didn't
Starting point is 00:57:45 they didn't do anything with and then you know you know she's running a lot in the movie that's she's she was running a lot and i kept thinking when are they gonna say why she's running you know like and i was just like i think that you know paul thomas anderson might not be for you guys and they were like maybe you're right but hey i don't fully disagree with katrina's review either katrina needs to get on letterboxd she needs to get on letterboxd that would be an interest that would certainly offer a vibe to us all oh yeah they watched the kristin bell show the um the woman in the window across from the whatever oh yeah and they were like they they said there's a blizzard in new york obviously as you know and so they were like yeah we watched
Starting point is 00:58:26 the whole thing because there was a blizzard three quarters of the way through the writers just gave up it got crazy it got crazy I was like well what happened and then they spoiled it for me because I was like that might not be on my list as much as I love but they spoiled it for me
Starting point is 00:58:42 and I was like alright so do you care? I wasn't planning on watching, but it looked like interesting. We love Kristen Bell. Alright, and it's now been out for a while enough where I can't say it. So, spoiler alert, I'm going to spoil this Kristen Bell thing.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So, I guess at the end, you find out that there's a murderer and it's like a nine-year-old. And so, I guess Kristen Bell gets in like a vicious fight with a nine-year-old and she ends's like a nine-year-old and so i guess kristin bell gets in like a vicious fight with a nine-year-old like and she ends up killing the nine-year-old and my my parents go and you know we follow her on social media and she makes such a big deal about you know don't take pictures of the kids you know don't do pictures of the kids meanwhile she's on this show she's killing a kid she kills a kid matt matt she kills this kid and meanwhile it's like she's on this show she's killing a kid she kills a kid matt matt she kills this kid and meanwhile it's like she's on instagram like you know she's protecting her kids and we always
Starting point is 00:59:31 liked her for that you know we follow her on social media for that reason because we like her because she protects her kids then this you know she's killing a kid the kid was nine years old and i go is this is this your dad It's a mixture of their both. But I go, you know, mom, like that girl who's playing the role as an actress. And those are Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard's real children. Like it's different. Like them being like, don't photograph our children and publish photos of it is different than this paid professional actor who's in a film who like is a murderer in a movie and gets killed by Kristen Bell.
Starting point is 01:00:06 They were like, I don't know. She makes such a big deal about the kids. They just started back in with it again. I don't know. It was so parent movie review. I love it. Well, what do you say? I think it might be time for
Starting point is 01:00:22 I Don't Think So, Honey. I'm just so excited on this episode that we decided what the 300th episode is going to be because I'll tell you something. I'm so excited. After our conversation with Sean, I was feeling the pressure. I was like, wow, we have to do something. I didn't feel any of it. I was like, I know whatever it is will be
Starting point is 01:00:37 amazing. So in the lead up to that, Bowen is coming out to New York and we're going to have some in-person episodes and we're going to talk to our producers about getting in the studio. Um, some very fun ideas and that'll be fucking fun as hell. As we trudge,
Starting point is 01:00:53 trudge, truge towards the 300th episode. That's right. And we can't wait to see you there. All right. They, uh, they,
Starting point is 01:01:03 uh, Provincetown. We're going to see you there. All right. They are. They are. Province town. We're going to see you there. Beautiful. Okay. This is I Don't Think So Honey. This is where we each take one minute to rail against something in culture.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Matt, do you have something? I do. I do. I do. This is Matt Rogers. I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey
Starting point is 01:01:20 talking about your acting training. I don't think people know what you're talking about i think that there's about 0.05 of the population that know what the word stanislavski means and so just saying that doesn't mean anything um what is circle in the square yes this is like targeted at lady gaga um i just find it so funny that in her I don't know billionth media cycle she hasn't learned that you have to say different things at different interviews she truly gives
Starting point is 01:01:51 the same thing in every interview it's an iconic thing about her that I love however this time I have to draw a line because what is she saying a lot I studied at Circle in the Square I studied Sense Memory etc I couldn't believe an interview that she just did with Salma Hayek where she said that she wrote a letter to herself and in the square. I studied sense memory, etc. I couldn't believe an interview that she just did with Salma Hayek where she said that she wrote a letter to herself
Starting point is 01:02:08 and in the letter she wrote, I don't need you anymore. I only need the parts of me that I can bring to. Say it with me, Patricia. And you have to watch this video. Salma is amazing and I do think Salma, I don't think Lady Gaga talking about her acting training or anyone that does such a thing. And that's one minute.
Starting point is 01:02:25 It's just so funny. How many times have we heard i was wondering as this media cycle of house of gucci approached what the thing was gonna be and but there's so many things there are so many i don't think there's one thing it's not i'm obsessed i can't wait for her to get the oscar nomination i don't want it to end. I need it all the way through March. I need Gaga on the hunt. I need more. It's too funny. I think she is
Starting point is 01:02:53 bringing something new to each interview. A new shocking... There was a love scene. That was good. It's so... And the headlines, the regurgitated headlines that are coming out of that story are amazing because I saw one like
Starting point is 01:03:08 come up the other day that was find out which scene in House of Goofy Ridley Scott had to call cut on that was too for being too intense Selma like hooking up or something it was the guy okay so the scene was i guess there
Starting point is 01:03:26 was a scene in the script where selma gets a call that the hit was successful and i guess selma had put cat food in her boots so cats could follow her around that was going to be like the thing of the scene is that cats followed selma around the garden or whatever and so like there is a scene where like selma gets the call turns to Lady Gaga and just like nods and Lady Gaga like as Patrizia struts over through the cats and like kisses Salma passionately on the mouth and like make out for a second. And that's like how their plot line ends. But which I really wish had been in there. I mean, this is the thing is it's like House of Gucci needed to take itself itself 40 less seriously and put that in yeah yeah i agree but see when when god when i hear that i'm like is that gaga or is that patricia like
Starting point is 01:04:14 would patricia have done she would say there was no difference at the point remember she wrote a letter to herself saying she didn't need her anymore so she was dismissed gaga wasn't on set patricia was on set i mean you have to remember there have been so we're gonna look back on this time and miss it so much no i i love house of gucci era i'm obsessed with house like i can already rattle off so many moments like her going i don't think she's a good person you know like that i don't condone her i don't think she's a good person but i do think there is something to say about women's rights and then
Starting point is 01:04:47 I mean her seeking evidence at the inauguration wanted to be a combat journalist like it's so good and honestly I had it's delivering on so many cylinders but definitely something that is jumping out to me
Starting point is 01:05:06 is I studied Sense Memory. I studied Stanislavski. I studied in Circle in the Square. I wanted to be an actor before I was a singer and I just couldn't audition. I just was horrible at auditioning. And so even in my music, I was- My first role was, you know, when I was in college,
Starting point is 01:05:24 I got called back to play Maureen and rent. And then they found out that I was still in school. Like I was like, I've heard this story. And that's when you realize that she is like that. You know, she is an actress. She is like one of those actresses. I'm like, I'm just going to drag. I'm in a country group chat with a bunch of gays who are rooting against Lady Gaga's nomination.
Starting point is 01:05:46 No. Actively. That's so rude. And they were talking about the thing where she said, the Jake Gyllenhaal interview, which I watched a lot of. It was very funny. But when she was like, I love cartoons. Yeah. Because there's such a danger and also a beauty or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:04 They said something and they were like dragging her for that. And I was like, I have to break it to people. Most actors are like that. Are like that. No, actors are not cool. It's,
Starting point is 01:06:13 it's, it's a, it's a myth. Actors are uncool. So this group chat wants her to like, the group chat is very, and they know who they are. They're very,
Starting point is 01:06:23 and we might even have one of them on the show and we will, will we will to their face confront they're very pronicle and there's these pronicle gays that i feel are coming for gaga it's very similar to when the pro laura dern gays came for jlo because i think that they they look at these they look at these singer actresses and they don't take them seriously, but I take them very seriously. I'm down for Gaga to get the nomination. And I just was like, if you think actors are cool people, I
Starting point is 01:06:53 actually have to break it to you. Most of us are nerds and annoying. And a lot of them happen to be aesthetically pleasing. That's it though. That is, that is the cool coinciding thing is that there are annoying people who look
Starting point is 01:07:09 good. And, and that makes them very suited for this work. Yeah. I was like, do you know how many times I have heard things like this at NYU where Lady Gaga did study musical theater? Like I remember being at NYU and people would have that Lady Gaga,
Starting point is 01:07:26 Jake Gyllenhaal conversation all the time. Of course. And I'm sorry to break it to these group chat gays, but like I bet you Nicole Kidman's just as, you know, like is, is, has the same,
Starting point is 01:07:38 I don't know, whatever. I just, Nicole, unfortunately is like textbook like celebrity doing a skincare video for like Harper's Bazaar or some shit but not talking about the
Starting point is 01:07:51 procedures she's had done which is like it's fine just like just share with us like what you've had done it's fine I do love about the housewives that now it's become a thing of like it used to be in the beginning like no one would talk about it and now everyone's just like I'll talk about the Housewives that now it's become a thing of like, it used to be in the beginning, like no one would talk about it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And now everyone's just like, I'll talk about it the most. Which I know I'm obsessed with it. I think it's genuinely changed the conversation. Like when women come out and they're like, I've had this done, this done, this done,
Starting point is 01:08:20 this done. And I'm doing maybe this, this, this. I think it's actually, it's more helpful because it takes away that layer of that facade of like that it is actually attainable it was the only thing about mia that i liked in potomac i was like oh she's being like very up like up front about like her her stuff but then she would lie about everything else which is like so confusing
Starting point is 01:08:38 you know i'm a little surprised one more thing and then i'll let you do your own things when i know you want to leave i'm a little surprised and it makes me wonder if they didn't get along because i was positive that part of lady gaga's shtick during this media cycle would be adam driver is just yeah he is a thespian and he i learned so much from him every single day and i wonder if something is not cool between them because the way she was about bradley made me feel like oh my god it's gonna be on another planet with Adam Driver. And it never happened. Well, with Bradley, it was like the directing.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Right. It was a whole narrative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Adam, I think Adam is just like, kind of like, is so the opposite of what Gaga does, that like he just didn't want, she just knows that he wouldn't play along.
Starting point is 01:09:21 I don't think there's any beef between, they seem to get along just fine. Watching the cast sit next to her in interviews is hilarious. It's just so good. Just like looking down, picking a fixed spot on the ground and looking down and just sort of ever so slightly nodding and trying not to smile while she talks is just... They're having to use sense memory for that.
Starting point is 01:09:42 They're having to go back to a tranquil time on the beach. You know, they're figuring out use sense memory for that like they're having to go back to a tranquil time on the beach you know you know they're figuring out a marvel thing for gaga are they yeah that's the what that's the buzz the buzz is like and i think i don't think this is confounded on anything but um uh what's her face emma frost love that also you know she's gonna be the lead of the next joker that was the buzz that hit yeah she'll be like some hard version of harley quinn and the joaquin phoenix joker um sequel sequel oh my god uh which is insanity i can't say she'll go to a safe place she's gonna lose her mind she's gonna one. She's going to lose her mind. She's going to crack. They're going to have to put her in Arkham Asylum.
Starting point is 01:10:29 She won't go anywhere else. Well, my favorite... That's perfect because my favorite Onion headline, one of my favorite Onion headlines ever is Lady Gaga kidnapped Police Commissioner Gordon. She's my favorite person. She's my favorite person she's my favorite person I think she might be my favorite person
Starting point is 01:10:51 Taylor might be number two now oh it's always been Gaga number one for me Gaga is a cuckoo beast wait I just want to pull this up I need to read the whole thing Lady Gaga kidnaps police commissioner Gordon Gotham City super villain Lady Gaga brazenaps police commissioner Gordon. Gotham City. Super villain Lady
Starting point is 01:11:06 Gaga brazenly abducted Commissioner James Gordon from a charity fundraiser Tuesday, leaving police baffled and the citizens of Gotham fearing for their safety. Known for her outlandish costumes and geometric polygon hair. This was written in 2010. The criminal madwoman made
Starting point is 01:11:21 a daring escape from Arkham Asylum last week and has been taunting authorities by interrupting television broadcasts ever since. Quote, if you ever want to see Commissioner Gordon again, you'll do exactly as I say. Lady Gaga said from her secret lair, adjusting her angular yellow tie back in spandex dress as henchmen danced menacingly around the boundary of Commissioner. While the kidnapping occurred at stately Wayne Manor, home of playboy jets that are bruce wayne the eccentric billionaire was not available for comment it's so funny that's hilarious super villain lady gaga brazenly abducted gaga is the one the one she really is and you just i don't you just i don't think so honey to her how dare you no but you know it's a celebration
Starting point is 01:12:03 it's celebration there's a celebration in every drag. It's rule of culture number seven. There's a celebration in every drag. Alright, well, this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think Sohany. His time starts now. I Don't Think Sohany, the redesigned Pokemon in Pokemon Legends Arceus. So they did like a
Starting point is 01:12:20 prequel game that's like a brand new formula. It's open world. It's different. But Matt, some of these designs make no fucking sense. Oh, I know you hate that. And they look so deeply upsetting. They're adding limbs
Starting point is 01:12:35 to people. They're adding, you know, they're making some of the Pokemon look depressed. Goodra from Gen 5, Gen 6 looks depressed. Typhlosion from Gen 5, Gen 6 looks depressed. Typhlosion from Gen 2 looks like he's stoned, mama. Or, you know, doing some drug.
Starting point is 01:12:51 I don't like this. It's rude. I'm sorry. I'm emotional. No, that was a burp. It's ruining the aesthetic sort of universe of Pokemon. It was already a jumbled mess to begin with after you know gen four but now you gotta really like it's too chaotic and it's a good game but the designs the visuals are
Starting point is 01:13:12 bad i'm so upset and that's one minute i i i i see and sense both imagine if they like made charizard look like they're adding they made like one of the pokemon like a Palkia, like a horse with a huge... Matt, these designs are insane. I'm not okay with it. I know many readers and publicists who are playing this game right now can agree with me. These designs look fucking bad.
Starting point is 01:13:37 The third graders are designing Pokemon now. I'm not even kidding you. That's the new gig. The fourth graders are sorry. Let me tell you something. It really hurts me to hear this because I usually think that you can also see the beauty in something new and
Starting point is 01:13:54 different, but not now. Let me send you something. Yeah. Also, I can sort of guess. First of all, I was talking about Pokemon last night and while you're sending me this I want to blow your mind with something and tell me if you knew this
Starting point is 01:14:09 The Mystical Birds Articuno Zapdos and Moltres Did you know it's Uno, Dos, Tres? I've known for decades I have not known until last night And you're shocked to your sister?
Starting point is 01:14:25 Arctic Uno Zap, Dos, Molt and Molt Trace I thought that those were just the most beautiful names I had ever heard but literally they're the word Zap and the Spanish word for two and so on and so forth can we just give it up
Starting point is 01:14:42 for the people, the localization team on that first generation the people who had to name these fucking monsters. They did an amazing job. Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, poetry. And you get it. And also the word tastes and feels like it should. Can we just talk for one second about, I will say this for the rest of my life. I think one of the most elegant creatures of pop culture history.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Do they pop? No, it's Pidgeotto. Pidgeotto. Girl. Number 22, I believe. And Pidgeotto, like, just so much promise and potential. Coolness. much promise and potential and just Pidgeotto the teen version but also taking flight
Starting point is 01:15:27 very much taking charge earning that sort of what we're going to call Sasha Fierce hairstyle oh the hair is laid the sort of bump in the front the giving Egyptian eye the bird was as gorgeous as Elizabeth Taylor
Starting point is 01:15:44 I agree. I just sent you some of these new designs. Looking? It's so... It's truly abominable. No, there's just... There's so much going on. What am I looking at here? Who are these people? This is Dialga and Palkia.
Starting point is 01:16:00 They were the original mascots for Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, and those designs were actually very elegant and chic. And now they've added all of this shit. Look at the neck. Look at the thing coming. It's like two goiters coming out of that neck. It's giving Sega
Starting point is 01:16:15 Genesis. No, it's not. Well, first of all, this game does look like it was made 20 years ago. That's what I'm saying. The game is getting these rave reviews and it should. The gameplay is like a huge revolution for the series. But the visuals are behind
Starting point is 01:16:31 because it's on Switch and it's not running at, you know, full sort of bit sort of speed as like PS5 and Xbox. But like, it's so, it's really upsetting to me because for me, the thing about Pokemon is like,
Starting point is 01:16:44 each of these are a mascot. Each of these like, is like its own like Hello Kitty, you know? Like that's why it blew up the way it did and when it came out in the 90s was because it was like, oh my God, it's Pikachu and it's Jigglypuff and it's Clefairy and there's all these, they're all these adorable or cool looking things.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And now they look like true monstrosities. Anyway, it's very jarring to me. I'm really not liking what I'm seeing here. And you shouldn't. Okay. That's my own thing. So, honey, we said it'd be a short episode. It's still an hour and a half and change.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Listen, and I think that, like, what everyone needs to know is we're coming back with some Firecracker episodes. With Firecracker guests. And there's going to be conflict on the episodes. And there's going toacker guests. And there's going to be conflict on the episodes. And there's going to be fighting. And there's going to be drama. Ultimately resolution.
Starting point is 01:17:31 And the thing about Lost Culture is it's about conflict and resolution. And stay tuned for our big 300th episode coming up soon. The Lost Cultureistas presents the great global our big 300th episode coming up soon. The Las Culturistas presents the great
Starting point is 01:17:47 global songbook. Doesn't that sound sweet? This is like the Pokemon naming it. That sounds important. You don't agree? I know. I'm biting my hands because I'm so excited. I'm like, should we even give this away for free? This is a book.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I don't know. I'm designing the cover. You are. The great global Should we even give this away for free? This is a book. I don't know. I don't know. I'm designing the cover. I'm designing the cover. You are. The Great Global Songbook. The Great... Gershwin found dead again. Honey, Paul McCartney and John Lennon?
Starting point is 01:18:15 More like go to hell, bitch. More like go to bed, bitch. More like go to bed, bitch. You know, I think this is going to be a really important text. This is going to be one of the most important texts since I got that Pokemon picture from you. Yes. Since I got that Lisa Barlow quote from you.
Starting point is 01:18:35 This has been an amazing episode of Las Culturistas that has explored so much. We end every episode with a song. I want to be the very best No one ever was To catch them is my real test To train them is my cause I will travel across the land
Starting point is 01:18:59 Searching far and wide It's Pokemon to understand the power that's inside. Pokemon! Gotta catch them all! Pokemon! I know it's my destiny. Pokemon! You're my best friend in a world we must defend.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Pokemon! Oh, it's so true I can't wait to pull this through you teach me and I'll teach you Pokemon gotta catch them all Pokemon
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Starting point is 01:20:59 I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question,
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