Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "She Suffered... And She Is Still That Girl" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: January 12, 2022

Bowen Yang (platinum blonde, super-immune, Erika, corn silk-era) and Matt Rogers (still brunette, super-immune, Rinna, still charizard-era) gather together after a fabulous trip to Mexico City to record a "culture catchup" episode of their podcast Las Culturistas (critically acclaimed). And wow, has culture occurred. The name Che Diaz ring a bell? "Hey, it's Che Diaz!" How about now? Also, Mary M. Cosby, exiting the world stage? Major news, indeed. The Elmo-Zoe feud down on Sesame Street? You could say the hosts are bravely taking a side. And oh, the power of cinema. Matt and Bow review The Power of the Dog, Being The Ricardos, The Lost Daughter, Don't Look Up, Free Guy and Licorice Pizza. All this, praise for the final season of Search Party, a celebration of the renewal of The Morning Show for a third season (congrats third graders, you're the real heroes, mamas), thoughts on new Drag Race, Project Runway and Euphoria, and a whole lot of bullshit in between. Las Cultch? Is back. She suffered... and she is still that girl. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas calling. Where to begin? Who am I looking at? Sometimes I have to look twice at this new person in front of me. What are you feeling if you did not know me? If you were in a terrible accident, lost all your memories. Your hippocampus was thrashed, mother. Honey wrecked. My hippocampus wrecked in an accident. Lost all your memories. Your hippocampus was thrashed mother. Honey wrecked. My hippocampus

wrecked in an accident. And if you saw me for the first time listen I didn't want to talk about the hair that much but since Matt What do you expect? I have to react to stimuli. Please. Okay so then what do you think of this person? I must. I would think femme fatale. I would think

icy Sharon Stone basic instinct pussy baron ice do you think of this person must i would think femme fatale i would think icy sharon stone basic instinct pussy baron ice pick wielding troublemaking femme fatale of the sharon stone ilk it's giving me a little bit unapologetic slytherin hun it Draco, fuck it. You walk into a room and Draco Malfoy drops the fine china he's holding. He says, who the fuck is my sister? It is giving me high impact. It's giving me shock. It's giving me lightning type. It's giving me everything I need and more.

Girl, thank you. How do you feel? I think it's, all I think it's giving is corn silk. I'm in my corn silk era. One of the best eras to be in. It actually goes Charizard era, and then you go to your corn silk era. That's actually the evolution.

Bitch. Bitch. When do you think you'll be in your corn silk era? Are you in it already? You know, perchance I am, Beau. Perchance I am. How are you doing? Let's talk about you. Well, I actually tested positive for the novel coronavirus. Thank you. It's so interesting that you and I are... I'm sorry to cut in. No. But I love that we've all agreed as a culture that we will no longer use the COVID

well no we will no longer use the Valerie Cherish I got it in order to announce that we have no no no I'm saying clearly because we need more clear information okay this is what we're all saying we need more clear information so I'm going to be as clear as day when I say I tested positive for the novel

coronavirus parentheses Omicron's version and I have to say I stand here and I've done a dance with the devil and it has ended with us both bowing to each other and leaving the dance. Oh

an honorable dance. It was an honorable dance. She gave me a tango. Sometimes when you dance with her, she doesn't let you out of her grip. She leads. She leads. You follow.

And you think you led in this dance? No. No, no, no. There were two days where she had me shivering on the couch, doll. She had me shook. As Lisa Barlow would say, and we'll get into it,

I'm literally shaking. That meme was me on the couch see that's the meme we should be using in order to signal that we have covid i'm shaking i'm literally shaking i'm literally shook on the phone right now covid test center number six honey so we've both danced with the devil since our last episode. We have. So much has happened. You had COVID. I had COVID.

I had to cancel the whole rest of my shows, doll. Oh my God. Think about that. That did not feel good. 2021 was a different world. She warped herself there at the end. And I think you and I ended it

on a very lovely, enriching note in a very perfect place and a place that I think we love and are very connected to for the rest of our lives. That was Mexico City. Mexico City, CDMX. It really came through. It really came through it really came through we loved it

all didn't we there's not much more to say that there was just so much to discover and enjoy and what if you had to give trip highlights i think mine would probably be drinking in the canals we drank at um yes hochi milco um perfect perfect experience matt had me ask the mariachi band if they knew any beyonce and i did ask them and i was given the look i should have been given and that the look that anyone should get when they ask a mariachi band in mexico do they know any Beyonce? It was less a thing of, I legit wanted Bowen to ask so that Beyonce would get played. It was sort of,

will Bowen ask them, do you guys know Beyonce? And I just wish I had taped it because he did. And he did receive a look similar to the one he is describing. The guy was like, no.

No. He's like, no. No. He's like, no, we don't. Someone wants to say hi to you. Oh my god. So right now I'm holding up the Gengar slash Haunter that Bowen, it's a stuffed animal Pokemon that Bowen bought on the canals.

Oh, I see what they're doing now. So it's a Haunter that looks suspiciously like an axolotl, which is native to Ho Chi Minh. But I think what they're doing is the feet are actually the haunter's hands. And then the thing at the side is just the rest of haunter's head. Oh, wait. I hadn't looked at it like that before.

Yeah, this is the first time I'm looking at it like that. Get a screen grab of this because now I want people to understand what we're looking at here. Okay, so these in these very much like its feet, but actually they're his hands. Yes, you know how Hunter looks like what Hunter looks like. You're so right. I hadn't thought about that before. Anyway, it's really giving feet. Anyway, it's giving feet. That one bought that on the canal itself. People just will sort of row their boat up to the side of your boat and make transactions. It's really a wild

scene. It's a wild scene. And then other trip highlights included the food, the neighborhoods, the history, and... We went to Frida's house. We went to Frida's house. She suffered. She suffered in's house. She suffered.

She suffered in her life. She suffered. Very much. The museum is a testament sort of to her art, but also they really let you know. She suffered. Yeah. This was the bed where she suffered. Laid pussy up. Yeah, and suffered. And suffered. She suffered over here. She suffered

over there. She suffered in the kitchen. She suffered in the living room. She suffered in the gardens. She suffered everywhere all around that house. Girl, but you know what room I loved in that house? Tell me what room. The room where she took photographs of herself and then they put photos, like she took selfies on beautiful film and she like, or was they weren't selfies, but they were just like, she posed for photographs in a way that was just like, oh, that person has star quality. She was that girl. You know what I mean?

Even though she suffered so hard and so much, she still managed to be that girl. Who is like that now? Like, someone who suffered, but is still that girl. I want to say Malala? Malala, yes. She definitely suffered and is still that now? Like someone who suffered, but is still that girl. I want to say Malala.

Malala. Yes. She definitely suffered in this. I want to say similar akin to Frida. Patty Harrison. Patty Harrison has suffered and she is that girl. She is that girl. She remains that girl.

Who else? I would say, damn, I would say, you know, Lindsay Loh say, you know who? Lindsay Lohan. You know who? Yeah.

Bradley Jackson. Bradley Jackson. From Morning Show. These are all Frida Kahlo-esque presences. She's suffering, and she's still that girl. That was top of mind because... Yeah, oh, congratulations. Congratulations to you,

and we'll congratulate the third graders, but yes, go. So the reason I found out that the morning show was getting renewed for a third season was because bowen tagged me in the incredible website instagram.com and i saw that i had a tag from him and it was in i was tagged in the announcement that the morning show was going to be renewed for a season three. I put it on my story. I have never received this outpouring of support. I have never received this response from putting a story up. Everyone is in my DMS celebrating the third graders getting this new job.

And I have to say, if I only knew that I had so much family out there that also watches the morning show. And if I can be even a conduit for them to experience this television show. You have started a movement and I'm not even joking. Like we will

continue this show for seasons four, season five, season six. Come on. Yeah. We're seeing them all the way through. We are going the distance. The third graders are, I know, celebrating. And a lot of people have questions and they're saying, do the third graders become fourth graders?

I think yes. The staff remains the same. They're not being held back. No. The school, I'm saying in the school system. Right. No one, no administrator is going to think, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They're very behind in math. No. They've not gone to a single math class this year. No, their career started. Thank you. Their career started. When I started having incredible success. You weren't doing math?

I wasn't doing math anymore. You weren't going to PE. Not that I got to this height. Once I got to this height, I wasn't going to see you in earth science. Forget it. The third graders have started their professional careers. Drop everything and read?

More like drop everything and break the season, right? More like drop everything and write. Because you've exemplified your talent and your gift. And they have a gift for storytelling. These writers. The way they break story is so crazy. And if you think for one second that End Just Like That isn't getting a second season,

they might not be. You're deeply mistaken. No, you're deeply mistaken. No, you're deeply mistaken. No, there's been reports. You've seen the reports, right? I haven't seen any of these so-called reports. Explain to me. Explain to me how we're not moving forward

with the story of Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte. Explain. Similarly, on the Variety Instagram page, there was a whole grid post dedicated to this rumor that And Just Like That will not return for another season because of the Chris Noth allegations,

which doesn't really make sense to me. That is the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever heard. So you don't believe it. The show will get a second season because everyone is in love with che diaz there has never been a character there really has been so so high impact it really is do you feel like we're eating crow do you think we're eating crow do you think we're eating crow like since three weeks ago

because we were over here being like Che Diaz is awful we can't stand this character but now look at us tail between our legs saying Che is an icon Che is an icon well here's the deal sometimes it's like what Gia Gunn

famously says well what you want to do is not necessarily what you're gonna do thank you and what you might want to do is say no i don't like che che doesn't make any sense che is making everyone's life worse i don't like anything to do with che that might be what you want to say what What you're gonna do is watch Che. Che Diaz has got their finger in Miranda's puss and their hand over America's mouth.

Saying, shut up, I am here to say. And Che Diaz is fingering the television audience. And we cannot do anything. Yeah, I was gonna say, they have their fingers in all of our pussies. Oh, you have no idea how fingered I feel whenever Che comes on the screen. It is so...

We watched the last episode together. Not the most recent. Well, we watched 105 together. We watched the one that counted, 105. Tragically hip. Tragically hip. Which is kind of... It's such a meta title i just love that as a title the titles have been giving i will say okay but the titles are making me question how much of this is like camp b like in the way that it's like self-aware about how like

crazy it is what we have to stop and start realizing is that this is not sex in the way that it's like self-aware about how like crazy it is. Well, we have to stop and start realizing is that this is not sex in the city. It's its own. I know. I know. And I don't think sex in the city was too campy. It was fantastical. I'm saying, and just like that is camp because we need you.

I don't think you've talked about ltw and charlotte's interaction oh no sesame street so can you please explain this unfortunately you actually will enjoy the show more and i i give this to the readers i agree know that i look out for you every single time and so i want you to start committing to doing this every time charl Charlotte and LTW are in a scene together, watch it as if what you're watching is the television's program Sesame Street. It is simply the only

way you can explain away the reality that those two exist in is that they are Muppets working together to teach us a lesson. I got you a latte. I got you a latte. Listen, I really want you to come us a lesson. I got you a latte. I got you a latte. Listen, I really want you to come to a party. I would love to go to your party.

I love hanging out with you. Great, I feel the same way. I'm going to get a party together and invite you over the phone. Your husband will be there. He sure will, and your husband, and I guess we should have guests. Um, the kids?

Oh, I don't know about that. How about other adults? It'll be an adult dinner party. All right. I'll call you by phone. Hmm. Off to myself now. I don't want her to be the only black person there.

I better invite another black person. It's just so, you guys, their scenes are, their dialogue. It's their dialogue in particular. And the performance. There is something about each of those actresses' performances that are like, what are you doing? First of all. This is amazing. I mean, I don't know if, I don't, because I believe in Nicole Ari Parker.

I believe in her more than what I'm seeing. I just hope that there is a shoe that gets to drop with LTW because you probably agree that scene or that episode where Charlotte realizes that this woman is going to be the only black person at her dinner party. And so she goes out of her way to invite a black person that, that she knows like any old person to come there. And then when like shenanigans happen throughout the episode, they sit down at lunch and she goes, Oh, I invited that person.

I don't even like to my house because I didn't want you to be the only black person there. What LTW has to say is, Oh, I think the same way about you trying to protect you as a white person. Oh, LOL, sip of RT, scene ends. As if a black person would ever react that way. I was just like, this is really just a chaotic cartoon in the world of Charlotte.

And maybe it got a little bit better on this last episode. There wasn't much interaction between them, though. No, not even with them. I've kind of moved on from them. I just mean in the world of Charlotte, her dealing with her child's impending transition here. I have no idea what... I guess I want to say I don't know who the show is for,

but I actually know exactly who it's for. And it's just probably not for so many people that enjoyed sex in the city that it's kind of just like, all right, I guess we kind of just got to move on from this one. This is what I said to you at one point, like I miss, and I know this is not the reason you should watch any television show,

but I miss when I would want to be like these women. Yeah. And like, there's, you know, nothing aspirational and that's okay. And like, uh,

but I just feel like it was more fun to watch when I took these women seriously. And the, and the fact that like, and I, and I told you, I was like, I think one thing that could solve so many problems just for

me personally is if one of them what like i like uh one of carrie charlotte or miranda gets fucking like dragged in the funniest way possible like by someone on the show not by like these peripheral characters but just like like cussed out in the street by teenagers or something like something. Yeah. And I don't know, like, I think it should be one of the new friends. And that kind of happened with Seema and Carrie, where they kind of got into it a little bit in the first episode that we met Seema.

And I think that's the reason why that's the new friendship that's working for me. Probably the best out of all of them, because it feels like we've seen them go through something that's formative me probably the best out of all of them because it feels like we've seen them go through something that's formative enough where i believe a relationship is earned there with like miranda and dr naya nothing about any of their interactions up to the point where they were having dinner getting really personal was was I like, yeah, I can buy this happening. It was only Miranda being a damn flop in class, just like putting Naya in situations

where she was made to be uncomfortable. And then, of course, there was that weird moment with the little Chucky guy on the subway platform. But I don't know if that worked enough for me to believe, like, friendship between them. Also, why did Naya get the only scene in, like, the whole season so far,

the only, like, little, like, series of scenes where she's just fully separated? Like, there's no real connection to the core three women. Like, it's just you see her going on a date, like, a double date with you know like this this this couple and then fucking her husband in the next scene like i gave her like a subplot and it kind of was like this is episode six of the first season and she's

just now kind of like they've cut to her family a couple times but never like this and i'm like i just wonder in the grand scheme of things, like what is that leading towards? Like how does that connect back to the, how does that connect back to the story? Like, are you just telling a story about this woman? Because if so,

like just throwing her a scene every three episodes where that happens, like, and now we're only getting into it in episode six is not like serving the character. It's just distracting from a narrative you're telling and they are telling a story about Carrie Miranda and Charlotte that's the story that they're telling

so how is this all serving it you know what I mean my theory is um she ends up having her surrogate and then the surrogate is Samantha and then she comes back. See, because this is the thing. This is the world of the third graders is that it's sort of like

do I almost wish Samantha would come in and be the surrogate? Yeah. I will say out of the actresses, Karen Pittman. Oh, there's nothing wrong with Karen Pittman. Everything right. The performances besides, I'm sorry,

Kristen Davis and then LTW, like those are, that's the only thing that I'm like, what is going on here? Like Miranda and Carrie are giving you like pretty cool grounded stuff for the most part. I mean, let's just say this. Miranda, Cynthia Nixon, definitely she read on the page,

Miranda gets fingered in the kitchen. And she said, okay, well, I'm going to make that a moment for everyone's lifetimes. And she barked like a wolf into Sarah Mears' hand. And she really barked like a wolf. That's really the only way you can describe the orgasm. Wolf bark. Wolf bark. Wolf bark.

Wolf exorcism. Mm-hmm. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! The eyes are the freakiest part. It was horror film. Whoa!

Whoa! Whoa! It's Choo Choo Train. It was Choo Choo train that had a zombie spirit it was it was oh final fantasy 6 demon train you you won't get that reference some of the readers will the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome.

And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her.

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Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.

Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to

Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the

desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.

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The publicists? You have no idea how many of the publicists are like hardcore MMORPG gaming right now. RP gaming, whatever. And can they ball? I'm horned up for some of these readers who were helping me, giving me some items some equipment i was like the generosity here is really turning me on and i gotta say going on twitch was very

fun i only kept i only went on twitch when i had coveted i don't know if i'll go again um because i think to like have a twitch presence you need to be very consistent and i can't do that but it was very fun to stream, to like try on the streamer hat for a little bit. It's a very fun community. People are very funny in the chat. Ooh, Matthew,

you don't know what you're missing. These readers have a lot of verve. Oh, yes. Vim, vigor, verve. Vim, vigor, verve. And veracity. What vigor verve and veracity what is veracity I feel like it's true like the way

something is truth is true which also applies are you looking it up I can tell you are conformity to facts and accuracy yeah I love it I love calling the readers voracious

it's a different that's voracious readers voracious. That's a different, that's voracious, not voracious. What is spelling really? I don't know. I don't mean to be one of those people. I'm sorry. You do. I've gotten better over time. Wouldn't you agree? I don't care anymore about

like fucking all that. All that. When I speak and the readers know in their heart what i mean you are the most effective communicator one of the most effective communicators in the world you really are i'm not joking thank you for saying that i try to be you speak in people your face and honest girl countless times the world over you are that if anyone is veracious it's my sister

should the title of that be veracious but spelled wrong it could be I think we can we might find another one you're so right I just want to quickly

sorry what were we doing before the shout out I just want to close this shout out by saying it was so fun to play Final Fantasy XIV which oh my god Matt if you were a gamer if you could sink in all these hours if I was a gamer it's

some of the best storytelling I've ever witnessed in any medium and walker final fantasy 14 oh my god and there's just one villain in the last expansion it's like it's better than game of thrones it's better than game of thrones in terms of telling a high fantasy story in a cohesive universe game of thrones like i don't, I just, I feel like you lose the thread pretty easily. And for this, this game does the thing of making you hooked even as it develops more. What never happens. Grey's couldn't do it.

Desperate Housewives couldn't do it. No, they flopped. Lost flop. Lost. Absolute flop and a half. So we don't even have to talk about I'm dressed like that anymore i will say to keep things off on a positive i think the acting is half incredible like cynthia if you're

gonna be given that plot line you gotta sell it like cynthia nixon does and she fucking did sjp i'm just i could just watch her do anything and carrie carrie is the best part of the show which should always be true and at least that is true it's just kind of the ways that the show is trying to navigate 2021 slash 2022 in a way that I don't think it needs to that's like bothering me this is

the thing I need to put out there and I texted you this as well before I know we want to end this on a positive note and we will because we're watching we're enjoying yeah but I texted you this as well before I know we want to end this on a positive note and we will because we're watching we're enjoying yeah but I texted you in that scene at the doctor's office with Jonathan Groff like remember his character kept doing like

little asides that were like well my assistant finds that triggering or whatever the line was like and then it was just like it was just all this stuff where I was like I'm realizing that almost every scene in this show has this low frequency of like fear of saying the wrong thing yeah to an audience of people who like are much more sophisticated than any of the people in this world who are like well i hope i don't get canceled for wearing a sari you know like that

right right and it's thing and it's distracting it's so distracting and it really yeah it takes me out of it and then I like don't take these people seriously I don't know part of me just wonders like if this is the way you're going to flesh them out into an hour long format then maybe

they're sitcom characters you know maybe we're just supposed to... That's something I miss maybe a little bit. Is that it was shorter? The 24-minute bite that it was. You know what I mean? The characters got to come in and be a little bit more stock. I don't know.

If you're going to flesh out the characters like this and develop them like this and they're going to act like Charlotte, it just feels like cardboard versions of the characters that we knew which is weird because they actually have the opportunity to deepen them yes and I think you know like I said I'm I know it's not for me and probably a ton of people that watched it but to be positive about it it it definitely is for certain people.

You know what I mean? People having those late in life, you know, eyeopening moments about themselves and, you know, generationally like people, like even though they're in there, like,

you know, mid fifties, like finally stepping up for themselves and saying like, no, I'm unhappy. I need to take steps to make myself happy. Definitely. I think those things

happen and are real and i'm happy there's a show depicting that especially for women like someone posted the other day like you know there's women in the golden girls were like younger than the women and just like that and isn't it great that we're like not treating them like old ladies like of course but then again it's like a lot of this is about how old they are you know what i mean like sjp falling apart at 55 and like people dying it's a lot of doom gloom and death and i'm just like i understand we're examining them at a different part of their age but like let's still have them be fun and i think that there are glimpses of that in the show whenever they leave back the doom and gloom and let the characters have fun and discover themselves in fun,

vibrant ways that are fun to watch, you know, the show's cool. But when it's not like that, which is a lot of it, it just gets hard to watch. Speaking of Sesame Street, let's just really quickly check in. One of the best shows. We're not disrespecting. Oh, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We're saying it's Sex and the City doesn't belong on it just like that. That's all. But what do you think? Totally different. I want to bring this up because some of the readers wanted us to talk about this, but what do you think of this Elmo meltdown? Well, I'm team

Elmo all the way. We're team Elmo all the way, but it's like when your friends snap, sometimes the only option is to support them, especially if they're correct. Look, here's the deal. So for people that don't know, Elmo and Zoe were doing a scene.

They were doing a scene together. They were doing a scene. And they were being filmed for the show Sesame Street. And they were having lunch. They were having dinner. They were eating. They were joining together for a meal. Someone dropped off three cookies. Someone dropped off three cookies

so they were going to sit down to eat the cookies. It's weird because there's a cookie in front of Zoe, a cookie in front of Elmo, and a cookie in front of this rock and Zoe is sort of referring to the rock as rock. Rock is sitting there. Rocko. Rocko. Rocko. Rocko the rock. rock rock is sitting rock oh rock rock oh rock oh rock oh the rock

yeah it's sitting there he's sitting there that's his that's his cookie she says so elmo says that's not his cookie that's a rock it can't eat the cookie i would like to eat the cookie if there's no one else who wants it if the cookie is just going to sit there because certainly certainly elmo thinks rock oh the rock is not not gonna eat this no cookie which is 100 true so zoe has the audacity to be like you know to get upset and be like you can't eat this cookie it's rocko's cookie so now elmo and i think you and i at home are like what world am i living in? Like, are you kidding me? So he starts vocalizing that like, it's a rock. Rocko the rock isn't going to eat the cookie.

And he's getting upset. Did he ever get to eat the cookie? No. That is the craziest part of this whole thing. It's so twisted. Naturally, this blew up and is now trending online because it happened on tv it happened on tv and this is what happens every day on the real housewives i guess but something about this is chilling no it's chilling because here's the deal elmo it's elmo who is the kyle

richards of sesame street you know what i Like you are, that's our protagonist. Okay. So there's no way you don't love her. And it's not that you don't love Zoe. It's just, this is the way, this is the way I'm observing the relationship. Zoe needs a lot of help. Zoe's Kim.

She needs a lot of help. She's struggling. She's Kim. She's Kim. And she really, there's a time to be there for your good sister and then there's a time to be like, I have to call out the reality right now.

And Elmo actually in being honest and not allowing her to live in this fantasy that the rock is going to get eaten by rock, or the cookie is going to get eaten by the rock. It's just so stupid, Bowen. I can't even get it out. I can tell you're a frustrated girl. Work through it.

The people need to hear this. You have to create a boundary between a person that believes a rock is anthropomorphic. You have to. Period. Is that going to be our first rule of culture of 2022? Yes. It's rule of culture number 46. You have to create a boundary

with a person who believes the rock has an anthropomorphic presence. Presence. Absolutely. That is what culture is built around. Can you imagine if we disagreed on this? I can't. Because you know why?

Why? You and I would never be Zoe to each other. Or you and I would be Elmos to the other who was being a Zoe. I would hope you would be an Elmo to me. If I was talking so crazy that I said, no, no, no, Bowen. And to get upset with you, you can't eat this. A rock is going to eat it. I hope you would be Elmo to me in that situation,

that circumstance. The line read of Elmo saying, he's a rock. Yeah. It's panic. It's anger. He's, he's pissed off.

Can we just say like, I believe that things are going to come to blows when I see that scene. I'm like, someone has to, someone has to step in here. Where are the producers? Where are the producers? Bravo, bravo, fucking bravo.

Something is going on with Elmo and the culture. I would love for Elmo to come on the podcast, first of all. If Elmo came on, it would be good to have a real conversation with him about what exactly the deal is there, because it seems toxic. Unbelievably toxic. It's getting to him in terms of like he's now he's acting out on other TV shows like the whole balsamic

vinegar thing on the Tonight Show is like really I don't know what's going on there. We won't recreate it for you, but everyone should we everyone should go look up Elmo pronouncing balsamic vinegar if you haven't already. It's he's he's He's unraveling.

I think that it's best to turn our attention to the situation. And because it's not him. It's the people that he's around. It's very Truman show, I think, what's happening with Elmo. Because there are people there that allow Zoe to exist

with just kind of spouting this conspiracy that Rocco, the rock would even be able to eat that cookie if he even wanted it. Oh my God. And we're talking about the feelings of a cookie. I mean, there's a huge problem. That's like,

what is that stage mom behavior? Zoe? What if Rocco doesn't want to be on camera? I think that even now you're, you're going too far. you're going too far. You're going too far and even approaching the fact that that Roc could have any feelings at all. I know. And don't scare me.

No, thank you. And see, this is what I'm saying. Don't scare me, girl. You're being Elmo to my Zoe. No. I was being Zoe. I will always keep you on Earth, girl. Girl.

I will step in to say you are being crazy. And it doesn't matter if i'm looking around saying i don't like it here on earth you go no honey it doesn't matter you're staying i have to tell you i'm re-watching jersey right now a lot of old real house has the new jersey and i found the everyone's like what house i have for you what house i have for you i found melissa who are you i'm dolores i am not. I'm Dolores Catania. And all you have to do is watch and you'll see. You've always been Rinna though.

You switch it up every other month. I'm not Rinna. You've always been Rinna. Can I tell you something? Rinna, this is what a Rinna does. If Zoe turns to Rinna and says, the rock of the rock is going to eat the cookie. Here's what Rinna does.

Oh, okay. And she goes to her girlfriends and is like, you're not going to believe what she's saying now. She is going to take it so far. And I would never do that. I would say to you as Elmo, I'd be like, it's a rock. I don't know. I'm too real to be Rinna.

The way Rinna supported Erica through all of this makes me believe that if Zoe were to go to Rena and was like, it's a rock. It's an anthropomorphic rock. This rock wants to eat cookies. Rena would be like, absolutely it does. Of course it does, babe.

I'm like, get out. We don't need that in the world. Stop. Stop. Stop what you're doing right now. I have to tell you something what you're giving me erica with the hair yeah what does that mean you're giving me or what or what you're giving me retuperative oh and your new hair your blonde shocking hair you're actually giving me powerful dangerous erica j Jane energy because I thought to myself, if I'm Rinna, then it's Bowen.

And then I had to gasp a little bit. I had to go, I was afraid when I gasped. Because I saw in you Erica Jane. One of the greatest criminals. She created a caper. We are Meredith and Lisa.

I don't know we are i think we're erica and rena you're lisa because lisa can't help herself and is someone who is ultimately so lovable and wonderful and you have to watch i i'm fully team lisa right now but i'm meredith and that i am like probably a little crazy even though I keep up like a cool demeanor, cool exterior, collected exterior. I agree. And you'll all notice at home that we've sort of arrived at the topic of the real housewives of Salt Lake city.

And that was by design. That was, that wasn't. And I think we're naturally going from one subject to the other. But in the naturalness of it, that it was by design because here we are. And I want to say that Mary Cosby has left

the world stage. So I just wanted to say as a bookend, because we famously said what, Bowen? Day two of the 12 Days of Culture. Mary M. Cosby. February something. No, November something 2020, Mary M. Cosby hits the world stage. Hits the world stage.

Circa January 2022. Left. She has decided to exit the world stage by not showing up to the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion. This news has hit the major media outlets, and I think that we can agree that

Salt Lake will never be the same because ding dong, the witch is dead. We say ding dong, Las C is dead. We say ding dong, Las Colas Reyes was calling. No, darling. No, darling. Ding dong, the witch is dead. I had been saying,

I mean, this is obviously satisfying for me as someone who's been saying for a while it's no longer been fun to watch her. What do you think? Why do you think she decided not to come to the reunion and therefore not be in the next season? She realized that she was going to come i think because not be in the next season she realized that she was

going to basically be sat down and confronted about being a quote-unquote racist in her case i'm guessing like it's and about the church stuff she's just she's just incredibly prejudiced person and like she i think like she probably can't answer for the way that her church members are treated she probably can't answer for almost anything she has said or done all of which have been negative because she acts as if she either is the most forgetful person in the world or that it's something to do with how you're perceiving her I don't know I'm just literally blabbing on and on but no no no I'm with you

Mary Cosby like I mean there's just every reason why she had to go but I do think it's interesting that it really was us who sort of raised the flags for her in the first place and really welcomed her into culture and I think that there's a lot to examine in our role absolutely I will also take

some credit in us being some of the first absolutely some of the first people to say, hey there's something going on here. There's something deeply wrong. The tree is falling. Do you hear it? Do you hear it? And it's really important that we all agree

that we did. Because if one person says, I didn't hear it then all of a sudden we're living in a world where there's true realities because people they believe whatever they want to believe if someone says I didn't hear that tree do a fully inaccurate yet

insane Asian accent impression that really was something huh it was kind of shocking. I'm not like shocked by that ever when someone does like, quote unquote, an accent like that

or when they attempt to, but there was something so like, oh my God, you're going to do that here? Yeah. It was so, it was so, it was truly shocking.

I mean, there's no other word for it. And I'm not terribly shocked, usually. Yeah, it really was shocking. And I also think you'd have to believe so much about Mary's reality in order to buy anything she says, because she knows she's being put on camera. You know what I mean? When she decides to do these things,

she does them not just she doesn't forget the cameras are around she's thinking about what she's going to project yeah you know what i mean like yeah and the fact that she can so easily go these places just says to me like actually this is a harmful person this person doesn't care how people feel she to me is in her just social interactions and the way that she manages conflict, obviously someone who doesn't care about anyone other than herself. So if this is true, what else is true?

She obviously is mistreating members of her church. You see what kind of person she is. She's a dangerous, toxic person who takes no accountability and will do anything to get just something she wants the w at the end of the day and it's just like for me she is you know it's it was interesting to watch someone who is that sociopathic but i'm good not doing it anymore exit yeah exit mary ting-tong ting-tong which is dead maybe that's title of up to be honest speaking of dead oh wow that could go into such a dark i know i don't know i was literally just

trying to make a stupid segue to the power of the dog and then i did remember in saying it that so many iconic people have passed away and i felt felt like a crook who clocked. No, it's a lot of people. Betty White. Oh my God. That one hurts. That one hurts. For some reason, the algorithm gave me a YouTube clip that was Betty and Lucille Ball playing Password together.

And it was just like, Lucille doesn't give a shit and hates that she's there, but Betty is like, it's crazy how even on a game show, like a stupid game show like that, she was like a fucking legend. Yeah. Icon.

There's no overstating it. No, she was, I mean, such a giant for such a long time. And, you know, truly one of those people where 100 across the board appeal you know what i mean like one of those last vestiges of a time when that was even possible and think about if you were a star that early on and we know how far the entertainment industry has come and how far it still needs to go in terms of like you know the treatment of women the treatment of so many people she had to have seen so fucking much she had to

have truly survived a lot and to have that many lives in this industry is like so you know unprecedented i mean what she's started in like the 40s? Yeah, pretty much. Like, basically right as Hollywood became Hollywood. She didn't even, like, you know, maybe like 20 years ago, someone 20 years older than her, her senior, would have been there as Hollywood

was starting up. But she kind of got in right when it started to be established in a way already. Does that make sense? I think she was the first woman to EP a television show. Wow. Yeah.

Her earliest sitcoms were just live TV because it was just how TV worked back then. Yeah. I mean, Betty, Bob Saget really shocked me. That was a bummer. And talk about someone who

I mean, he was really talented. Because think about so many of the reasons why you fell in love with Full House have to do with how sweet and gentle he was as a figure of fatherhood and how patient he was and how communicative he was. And that was a really sweet show that succeeded so much due to his

specific talent. And then to find out that he was so the opposite when he wasn't doing that, to me, just that, I don't know, that that's inspiring to me like someone who was able to really channel different energies and just a great entertainer who like never got painted into a corner I mean like the or I yeah you're right like it's not even about that it's just

about like someone who embodies two different diametrically opposite things yeah in terms of presenting themselves as an entertainer. And like, he was just so good at both of those, which probably told you that he was good at all of it. Yeah.

He seemed very, very well mannered to me. You know what I mean? Like, he's like, he knew the, the, the full house thing was a joke.

And he was always, he just seemed like a good guy. Sidney Poitier. Like, I mean, damn, I can't believe we're going through tests. No, but it's been...

There's been a lot. It's been a bummer. And especially because it doesn't seem like... I don't think... It's not COVID related. Well, no. Sorry. It's not people that pop culturally,

you barely knew. These are legends and well-defined people in the public consciousness like you know sydney potter is a legend and i'm gonna say joan didion like i just absolutely and like eve babbitts like i mean there's got so many so many crazy not crazy just like wild shocking not shocking, not shocking, I'm stoned everybody. Just really like, I don't know, sad, sad departures.

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I thought the writing was very fun and buoyant for an Aaron Sorkin movie the direction was the thing that was most confusing because I was like just down to like I don't notice direction that much quote unquote the way that a lot of people do like I think you are someone who watches film and is like whoa like I

can tell what the invisible hand here is but I watched Being the Ricardos and I was like, why the fuck is Liana wide, this insane wide of Lucy, while she's just talking, like, dirty, like, over the shoulder to, you know, Javier? Like, I'm like, what is going on here? How did the movie, how did this movie come together in, like, post, you know? That's the thing that, like, is confounding me the most. Yeah, I think in terms of the direction, there was, like, half of it that I thought really worked. and like post you know that's the thing that like is confounding me the most yeah i think uh in

terms of the direction there was like half of it that i thought really worked like i ultimately walked away from that movie thinking it was a really smart uh examination of a relationship like a relationship study if you will um i definitely like felt every beat of their relationship so in that way like in terms of how you tell a story like i was getting that there were some choices of you know shots or devices that i just thought do we need this like in and i'm talking about the entire device of the cutting back like from the interviews yes that i just did not think we needed that and it was surprising because it's almost like there's a starter movie or a starter script that has that device and then at some point

it gets taken away because you just simply don't need it he stuck with it the whole the whole way through sure did and um i don't think we needed that and then there were some moments where i don't know and just because he wrote and directed it, I think you noticed this, and maybe it just doesn't get the note. But there's some things where I'm like, okay, so you're saying that one of the ways we see she's a comedic genius is she knows to flip the scene so that the comedy is facing the audience? You know what I mean? There's this big thing where she calls Evermark to the studio,

and she's like, we're staging the dinner scene. And she basically turns their chairs. She's like, actually, you're going to face the audience when you do the bit and that'll fix everything. And everyone's like, huh, Lucy, you really are a genius. And I'm sitting there like, I don't know, something better than this, guys. Something better than this. This is something that I think we notice as we watch more things is that it's very hard to

call someone a comedic genius in a show or a movie and then exemplify it because it's, it's just, does that make sense? Like it makes a hundred percent sense. It's so hard when you're being told as an audience member that, um, this person is an icon of what they do.

Yeah. Not, but specifically with comedy. Yes, yes. Like this person is the funniest, smartest person there ever was. Yeah. And then you do it limited to like the restraints of like a film or a screenplay or a teleplay.

Like it's just, it's hard. I can't think of times when that's been done effectively. That being said, Nicole. Nicole was amazing. Does commit herself well to that. And I will say, ultimately, I actually really like this movie. And I think it would be really hard

not to vote for her for best actress because she just, the order was so tall i mean this the odds were so stacked against her and you leave that movie and you're thinking nicole kidman is a fucking star and if i have one note for her it's one that i saw pointed out which i can't stop thinking about now that I've thought of it is that when Lucy was performing, her eyes were bigger and more expressive and there was just something internal that came out through her eyes that I wasn't necessarily getting a

hundred percent with Nicole. That being said, she acted the fuck out of that script and gave you her speaking voice and gave you so much against everyone saying she was the worst choice for us. So I respect the house down. We love her. We love Nicole Kidman here. I never watched Childish Chicago 7.

I didn't see Molly's Game either. But I feel like I like Sorkin movies where it's about relationships instead of about a person. Steve Jobs, I don't remember a single thing about that movie because it's about how Steve Jobs was an egomaniac and it wasn't about the way he related to other people. That's why it just doesn't register to me.

Social Network is one of my favorite movies. Absolutely. Because it's about how this person is an egomaniac but is so bad at interacting with every single person who cares about him you know like that i like that that movie also had an incredible director and that's not saying that aaron sorkin isn't a good director because i think there's a lot of what he does that is effective but some scripts i think i would have just really been interested to see what another director could have done with this script.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I took issue at first with the deus ex machina thing in the end of J. Edgar Hoover calling, but apparently that actually happened. It did actually happen, but also there is something in that deus ex machina, like, in the way it feels in the moment. Yeah, yeah. That you do, you are, like, a little bit like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are like a little bit like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know.

I loved, I loved, I didn't love. I really enjoyed it. I like, I put it on because during, when the virus was like peaking in me, I was like, I might as well watch this movie. And I really enjoyed it. I thought there was a lot to love. I love Nina Arianda in it as Ethel.

Yes, Nina's wonderful. Or as Vivian V in it as Ethel. Yes, Nina's wonderful. Or as Vivian Vance, who played Ethel. But she was amazing. I mean, J.K. Simmons was great. And fucking Javier Bardem was great. Wonderful, wonderful. But wait, we have to talk about Power of the Dog. We have to talk about Power of the Dog. Let's talk about Power of the Dog.

Girl, see, this is the thing. It's like, this is written and directed by Janeane campion and that woman knows how to draw a fucking line through a story and like so i love this yeah and from the very first moment that this when the screen cuts to black and the score begins that like it sounds like it sounds like a rope is being tightened. Oh, I didn't think of that. So, and I'm, this is, I'm obsessed. Did you watch it twice?

Bowen, I'm in the middle of my second time watching it. It's better the second time. I've been meaning to watch it a second time. This movie is brilliant. So, like, the tension starts right away, and then he has that voiceover. First of all, Twink doesn't even begin to describe him. No, he's more than that. He is

super Twink. He's murder Twink. He's murder Twink, but I think he's not even like Twink. I think there's something there's another, there's something we're missing here, but keep going. Well, he is he's impact. So he says in that opening monologue, he goes,

it's my job to protect my mother. What kind of man would I be if I didn't protect my my mother. What kind of man would I be if I didn't protect my mother? Or what kind of son would I be if I didn't protect my mother? Something like that. So, and then the movie starts. And from this, when you know what happens in the movie and how the plot unfolds, this is a brilliant script. This is a brilliant movie. jane campion and and just talk about like a tall order in terms of direction those scenes with the cattle the atmosphere the fact that they felt like the only people in the world the whole movie like the vastness of the where they live but also the small intimate nature of the house like the performances ugh

you and I reenacted we're not going to do this well we can if you want but you and I reenacted Kirsten at the piano because that is I seem to have forgotten how to play Kirsten deserves it is her time it is her time

I was listening to her on fresh air today and this was like from an episode weeks ago but like it just... Her process with this movie, she's being so generous with what she's telling what she's saying in interviews about how she approached this character. I'm learning so much. And is that so

stupid? I'm learning so much about... No, it's not stupid at all. About what... I just... How someone does their job effectively effectively just in general. She's giving a glimpse into her process. Oh, it's she's so good in this. It's crazy. Yeah.

You've mentioned the dream work that she says she does. I think that's fascinating. And, you know, like just the relationship she discusses having on set with Benedict, who I did drag. I did. I don't think so, honey, for being, you know, method on set to the point where he didn't shower and had to keep away from everyone on set. But I think Kirsten wanted was avoiding him. I think that she was really smart in the way she played it, whereas just atmospherically she was not allowing him into her space so that when she saw him, he was truly imposing and scared her and made her anxious and it reads so clearly like how trapped this woman is and how steadily more trapped she feels throughout the movie i'm telling you that rope sound the score yeah yeah yeah the score should win the score should win just how tight they make the atmosphere feel for her because the movie

is about her anxiety. The movie is about how she is a she is like about to burst. She's a dam that's about to break. Yes. The way this scene is cut together I guess I mean if I can tell that

it's like really good direction on the same token as like if I can tell that it's bad direction good direction on the same token as like, if I can tell that it's bad direction, then it's bad. If I can tell it's good, it's good because I'm stupid. The scene where she's practicing the piano as he's playing the banjo, I'm like, this is incredible. Just brilliant. It's so scary. And she's, they're both performing it so well. Yeah.

Oh, she's like, look, looks so weak at the piano not weak but just like vulnerable and she's just like trying to like learn this defeated oh my god defeated i mean i mean like she she truly you genuinely i mean the movie doesn't work if it's not a battle for her life yeah so it's like you know her son and her new brother-in-law are like literally at the end of the movie basically faced with they're on different sides of the agreement of whether she should be happy or unhappy. And you know what I mean? And just the way that the ending unfolds, Cody Smith McPhee, he's been winning everything in terms of the critics awards. I mean, this is a performance you will always remember you will never forget him in this movie like it's just that boy hula hooping

you'll never forget the hula hooping the specificity of that decision like i know i know so much of it was so like he made little paper flowers. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just like, this movie is about a faggot. It is. A faggot and the women they worship. Yes, honey. A faggot and his mother. That's what the title should be called. Is it our title of ep?

A faggot and his mother? A faggot. It should be called Power of the Dog. A faggot and his mother. Oh, mygot. It should be called Power of the Dog. A faggot and his mother. Oh my God, we'll be getting so much trouble. No. Let's do it. Anyways, that movie was something.

I need to watch it again. I've been meaning to. Jesse too. Jesse was great. Oh, fab. Jesse Plemons is, he's such a good actor. I mean, just everyone from top to bottom. But I'm telling you, like, just every decision that they made.

And I love when the score really feels atmospheric. And it's such an amazing tool that I wish more movies would get more risky with in terms of how to strengthen the story. I don't know. I just love that element of it all. Did you feel as though The Lost Daughter gave you as much excitement and passion? I was very anxious. Another movie about anxious woman. It is anxious times.

It is anxious times. It is anxious times. And literally Final Fantasy XIV is about like the world ending. But in a way that is so like visceral and scary. Not like, oh, apocalypse. Anyway, I'm just saying like there's just a lot of like anxious content out there. I mean, don't look up. I tried to start Station Eleven and I just need to go back to it at some point. But I know it's brilliant

and I know it's wonderful and Tira Murai is the genius, but I need to just like not watch that, especially after having watched Don't Look Up. Yeah. Okay, but sorry, Lost Daughter. I really enjoyed it. Loved. I loved it. I felt like I was Dakota at the end.

You were Dakota. She just is my favorite type of character in the film yeah angry hot girl she was gorgeous in that she was so beautiful in it it was so shocking and like yes you get it because olivia coleman is there and you're like yeah that is the girl you stare at at the beach. Yeah. 100%. That is the girl. Like, you know, and then when she comes over and is like giving her attention, it's like, it is a little like part of me was like a little like, it was like a little psychosexual for me. I was like, I was like living.

I really enjoyed. I'm sorry. I'm just repeating myself. But like the, so apparently the ending is different from the book. Uh-huh. So in the end, she like, spoiler alert, oh, people might get mad. Well, I just, let me just say that the endings are different.

But, the doll missing really was giving me anxiety. Up to the fever pitch in the climb, and just in the sort of ending moments of the movie. Well something really smart that I thought that Maggie Gyllenhaal did in order to create

tension and like irritation in every scene is in the anatomy of a scene that they did that I watched on YouTube she was talking about how like the crying of the babies like the volume was never lowered

so like in the scenes where like this the girls around and crying you hear it the whole time yeah because it's like really important in the movie that you understand like what it genuinely is to be around a child and the responsibility of being like sort of like irritated by that noise but responsible for that noise and in charge of. Oh this movie made me never want to have a child. 100% and I think that that was just I think Maggie Gyllenhaal fucking knocked this out of the

park. Yeah she did great. She is amazing and I can't wait to see more from her as a as a writer and director I mean come on slam fuck this up. Wait she wrote? Yes. Oh my god good for her. It's based on Elena Ferrante. Elena Ferrante yeah. No director. I mean, come on, slam fucking down. Which she wrote? Yes. It's based on Elena Ferrante. Novel, but I mean... So she's probably... What else?

Is Adapted going to be competitive? She's certainly getting awards attention. Yeah, and I think she will be nominated. West Side will be nominated for Adapted, of course. Yes. Well, she has a Best Director nomination from the Golden Globe Awards. She didn't win.

But she is in that conversation. But in terms of adapted screenplay yeah i mean i think power of the dog is winning oh it was a book yeah oh i didn't oh that's right i knew this i knew this yes yes yeah so it's an adapted screenplay but anyway um yeah and then original is interesting i mean don't look up is definitely in that conversation as is being the ricardo's what did you feel about don't look up people are polarized polarized i i didn't hate it because i was led to believe that it was like one of the worst films ever made but by the way we're talking about online i watched it and the only big thing that bums me out is well you know it's that thing where I hate, this sounds so annoying, but it's like people say like satire

is not effective. Satire needs like a clarity of purpose and a clear target. Otherwise it just contributes to the thing that it's trying to satirize. I think that's textbook what this movie kind of like falls into where it's like it's being very cynical about the cynicism of

people. Like the way it shows people's cynicism is very cynical. And so therefore it just contributes to the cynicism. And so you watch the movie and you're supposed to, and I know you're supposed to feel like really bummed out, like bummed out. But I just think there was no, like the way it was apolitical to me made it have no teeth. And I think, I'm sure it wasn't Adam McKay's decision. Like the way it was apolitical to me made it have no teeth.

And I think, I'm sure it wasn't Adam McKay's decision. I'm sure he got notes where it was like, you can't alienate like a political party here. But performances were fun. Tonally, it was kind of a mess. Like I kind of, I think I really enjoyed the parts where like it felt like a broad comedy. Like during Ariana's song and like lyrics being so ridiculous. I'm i'm like see like now it feels like an old adam mckay movie that i love to watch and why can't it be more like that instead of this like i don't know

um dramatically or just tonally tense convoluted thing yeah i think that it could have like basically you'll agree with me when i say it just didn't really have any heart. Yeah. And so that made it hard. And I completely understand in a script where, you know, characters are that cardboard where that would be fine. And like, you know, we could sort of move through this as a satire. But I also thought that there were moments where we could have cared about the characters or maybe they wanted us to care about the characters and i just never got there for no for any of them i think by the numbers i think that script like it definitely did what it was setting out to do it definitely made you know made me think yes but also these are things of course

i've already thought about a million times like. I feel like we've made this assessment before, but that could just be because the media landscape is different now and we feel like Twitter, it's so hard to be on top of it that it was just kind of impossible for this movie to be like exactly on the nose, like nailed it. And so, admirable try,

but the thing is, I guess I just wish I cared more about the characters ultimately, because I certainly was laughing. I mean, maybe it could have been just punched up a little bit, but I definitely thought a lot of it was funny. I mean, when they when they made big choices like I was down for it. I just wonder if there's a fucking incredible movie like hidden somewhere. I know there must have. I'm sure there was. I just wonder if there's a fucking incredible movie hidden somewhere in this good movie. There must have. I'm sure there was.

Weirdly, my favorite scene was Leo and Cate Blanchett talking post-coital that first time. Yeah. Okay, let's share details of it. I mean, yeah, that's like, why is that coming an hour into the movie or whatever? Why couldn't this have been much sooner where I know a single thing

about leo's character it was 40 minutes too long too yeah and i mean that's pretty much a note i have for almost everything is 40 minutes too long that's the number it really is for you and it's giving 40 even for the tv shows the proportion it doesn't proportionize it's still 40 minutes well this is another thing i wanted to say is just like when i when i think about like like film versus tv it's like i thought don't look up yeah i was like it's a good satire then i watched search party season five that perfect segue that is a brilliant i mean it honestly not made me like don't look up less but i just compared them as satires of our culture and maybe because like Search Party has been able to examine more

and get more specific about what they're doing, they're able to achieve it in a much better way. But I just thought that dwarfed Don't Look Up as a satire. This last season, do you know about it? I know about it. I have not started yet because I have just been very busy, too busy.

And that's not a good enough excuse as a true search party stan hosted the podcast lest you forget yes you did um i i wanted to like i want to really sit with it yeah it just fucking knocked it out of the park i think they made insane choices i love it but and i was like this is people who are decidedly not third graders, but didn't forget their inner third grader. They made things happen on this show. This show went for it like you can't even fucking imagine. It becomes a different genre. It's truly thrilling.

But that's what Search Party is always. That's the beauty of Search Party. It changes genres every fucking season. Yes. Well, they just did it again and then like on top of it all being as inventive and creative and hilarious as they are like the performances are again amazing i mean fucking alia shawkat should be nominated for an emmy for this and like john early and meredith hagnar these performances are amazing john reynolds like

across the board like these they're fucking crushing it i mean john is so funny on it meredith hagnor is so incredible on that show and it's just thematically it fucked and fucking nailed it as a series finale and i'll just say without giving away too much like this is the big conversation about spoiler culture about when is it okay when is it okay to talk about search party I don't know yeah I really don't know and this is the conversation you're right not yeah thank you for but we won't

spoil it here we won't spoil it here I just I'm over the moon about it and shout out to Greta shout out to Larry shout out to Joe Castle Baker shout out to Grace Schmidt shout out to like so many people on that fucking cast that nailed it. I mean, it was just so good.

Josh Sharpe, Sam. None. Oh my God. It was amazing. I meant like, just, you got to watch search for Julio Torres.

So Jeffrey self. Oh my God. Like, give it up. I literally, I'm obsessed with the show. Oh, okay. Amazing. I'm obsessed with the show. Okay, amazing. It is such an incredible show.

And like, I do think Charles and Ness are geniuses. I mean, true geniuses. It's just wild. Can I just quickly say Euphoria is off to a really, more anxiety content. It's just the whole episode was anxiety. It's almost like, it's

always been gratuitous. It's always, you could argue, been about style over substance in a way, and like, it's fine. The fact that you still get these amazing, this is the thing I want to point out about Euphoria in my mind is that it is a show that you watch and you go, I don't remember anything

that's happened, but I remember all these people, which is to say that the writing and the storytelling is not super strong and has been called weak, I think. But meanwhile, in spite of that, all the actors give incredible performances. And I think that is still a show, that's absolutely a show worth watching.

And then like all these people, like, you know, like I think they're household names at this point, not household, but like, you know, No, think their household names at this point, not household, but like, you know, they're stars. Jacob Awardee is Sydney. And by the way, oh my God,

Sydney is one of, one of the greats. I mean, I think she's been anointed. I'm obsessed with her. But like, I mean, White Lotus, I was like, oh my God.

Yeah. That's the, that's like the quiet, shy girl from Euphoria. She's earned it. But after White Lotus, I was like, okay, great. Like I love that character, that performance. She's earned it. But after White Lotus, I was like, okay, great. I loved

that character and that performance. She does so many things in this first episode of this season that I'm like, Jesus Christ. Absolute star. You will hate it because there's just a lot of violence. It starts out in a very Scorsese way and it kind of maintains that throughout the rest

of the episode where there's just a lot of violence and drugs and like just like crazy shit and um it's hard to watch honestly yeah i don't know i i feel like my my i will watch it and i will check it out but it's just like like you've been saying like so much of media is anxious lately yeah that i'm just like i think that's why i gravitate towards a lot of lighter things just because i like so many don't want to add anxiety into my plate but i'm saying even like and just like that is anxiety content now because with what i'm saying it's like every scene is like i hope i don't say the wrong thing or do the right you know i'm like and even and also even that show is killing and destroying. Yes. Oh, death and suffering everywhere.

Killing and destroying. Like Frida suffered, but is still that bitch. That isn't just like that. Carrie Bradshaw suffered a lot. She has suffered and she is still that girl. Should the title be, she has suffered and she is still that girl? I think we need some context.

So either it's Power of the Dog, a faggot and his mother, or it's Frida, She Has Suffered, Frida, colon, She Has Suffered and She Is Still That Girl. But the episode is not about Frida. The episode's theme is She Has Suffered and She Is Still That Girl. Fine. Okay. Yes yes you're right you're right i love that as a long title for us yes yes yes she has suffered and she is still that girl that's us babe because the it's not i thank you for making it and she's still instead of but she

is still because it's not in spite of suffering no it's it's in addition to mama. And maybe even a direct result, honey, darling dear. Let me tell you something. Tell me. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Stand a little taller. Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone. When I'm alone. When I'm alone.

Girl, I think it's time to move on. I'm looking at my list here like what did we miss like oh I didn't tell you I watched all of Ted Lasso with my parents just kidding yes I did I didn't tell the readers I did I love that show have you been watching Project Runway I haven't but I heard about this Housewives challenge this season is amazing

and the Housewives were on a challenge and I've never screamed before at a Project Runway final runway but i was screaming up off my feet screaming at the housewives and the designs and the way and the way that they wore them who was there it was wendy giselle it was wendy giselle and karen from amazing amazing it was sharon storms and um gina from oc which by the way i've started watching oc and i'm obsessed and they picked two good ones and And from New York, it was Leah and Lou. And so

it was all of them. And then, I have to tell you, the way that Giselle and Lou looked on the runway, and also Shannon, like, Bowen, you... Giselle looked good? They looked amazing! Of course. They looked amazing! This is

the untapped potential of Giselle if you put her in good clothes she wore this like i'm telling you you have to watch this episode everyone just watched the episode of project runway this season with the housewives even if you don't watch it if you do you know this season is really good i'm watching it i'm watching this one yeah oh please like it is so so good i personally am team chastity but i also think that chantelle might win okay but and but those are my uh predictions but anyway this episode was absolute fire and wendy gets into it with one of the contestants christina i said dr wendy i don't know no we have to she's a former guest i mean i stand by her 100%. We stand by her. But that got there for me where I was like,

oh no, is there going to be conflict on the episode between the housewife and the designer? And there was, and it was our girl, Dr. Wendy. But I think I agree with her. Okay. And that's all that matters. All right, let me see. What do we think of Drag Race?

Oh, well, obviously we're team Willow Pill and team Cornbread. Absolutely. I mean, just already the Runaway Stars. Were there any other contestants? Bosco's going to be interesting, I think. I'm into Bosco. Definitely. He's of interest. Of interest.

But Cornbread is a superstar. Cornbread is narrating, already getting so much praise. She has it all. Willow Pill may be a comedic and I cornbread is narrating already like getting so much praise she has she has it all willow pill may be a comedic icon

someone said this in the group chat the other night but the fact that willow pill posts like quality memes on her stories means

means good thing means that you can trust her yeah Joel yes Joel Kim Booster said that and um

I mean I I think I'm I have there hasn't been an entrance in a while that has stuck with me this way. Where am I? The angle shirt.

Just the fact that that's how she came into the work room. And then remember the part where like in the work room and in the beginning where like her sunglasses kept falling off? Yeah. If you go back and watch that, it's really funny. The first time that happened, she goes,

oh shit. Like she says, oh shit. And the funniest way, I just, I'm obsessed with her. I rewatched her talent like five times. Yeah.

Yeah. It is so, I don't know. Insane. It's insane. It's almost like a comedy person, like hacked Drag Race. Like a genuine, like someone you race like like a genuine like someone

you would see at the annoyance theater i think dave mizzoni said that yeah it's very annoying it's very annoyance theater like brooklyn or chicago whichever you choose like i'm like what i'm like i love and then thank god rue loves it yeah rue loves it but like if you go and look at willow pill stories she's she's a funny motherfucker just posting like crazy filters on her face and then just the caption being i did weed she's she makes me like there hasn't been this this is my complaint about drag race for the longest time in the last few seasons i'm like there hasn't been someone that i'm like i want to hang out with them yeah i want to or i want to like i look up to them in a way like i think back on like season five and i'm like i looked up to all these girls

being like i want to like be more like james monsoon i want to be more like alaska like there hasn't been that girl in a while for me also older than a lot of them i know i know but with willow she's fucking 26 and i'm like she yeah i have things to learn from her absolutely absolutely i just i don't know i was so transported when she did that number and i'm so happy they let them use that and your song you know what i mean like i was just so taken back to a time when i don't know like we used to watch freak performances like that we used to do yeah like that was an used to do freak performances like that. That was an era. Yeah.

Anyway. Yeah, there's like a DIY quality. I don't know if that's the right way to put it. What else? Oh, we watched Free Guy. Oh my God. Here's, get this. Matt and I got really stoned

in CDMX with Sudi and Mo. By the way, there's been Mo Erasure on the socials. Mo Freipassick, previous guest of the show was there's been Mo Erasure on the socials. Mo, Mo Frypastic, previous guest of the show was there with us. Yes. We got stoned one night

and watched Free Guy starring Ryan Reynolds and Jodie Comer and Taika Waititi. And we loved. And we loved it. Your girl was crying

at the end. You were crying. I was crying at the end. Jodie Comer and the dude from Stranger Things. Oh, yeah.

Made me cry. They made me cry. Chunky tears. No one was really selling it out, you know? Like, it's a very, like, big budget, like, or it's a Sean Levy film. I tend to like Sean Levy films. Oh.

I kind of love Date Night as a movie. And Not at the Museum. I'll confess i haven't seen any of that but this movie i was just like it just felt like really smart really smart it took a second for us to like buy into the logic of the of the world directorially i think it would have been helpful to see them speaking in their real live bodies to the screen yeah a couple just to get across that that was how they were communicating with them but alas ryan you said something about ryan that i so agree with you were like he is such an effective comedic performer he's just the best i mean he's so specific in his movements the way he knows just

how to be on camera he is just an incredibly like like he's just a 10 out of 10 movie actor star movie you know what i mean he's just like he's always going to get across the right emotion he is just dependable he's funny he's super cute and he seems like he has a lot of energy like he gives a lot of energy to every take and he's just, I mean, he's one of our best for sure. He's one of our best. Like I told you, right? Like Just Friends, he has to do so,

he has a very hard job to do on Just Friends. He's one of the actors out there who's super handsome and so he doesn't get a lot of the credit for doing this comedy. Yes. The number of times we've talked about the proposal and sort of brushed past Ryan is criminal. We should be put in the institutions.

No, he's just, he's supposed to be in the institution. Okay. I'm saying we should be put in the institutions for not erasing him. So we need to be put in institutions for erasing him and he needs to be one of the institutions. The institutions. Okay. Say that. The institutions. Okay.

Say that. Say that. And I think that that is as good as you can possibly say it. Thank you, girl. Erika Jayne. Erika Jayne.

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Do you have something? You know, I do. Okay, here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. Honey, his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The Golden Globes tweeting out the winners and whoever they hired to do that be

in charge of that process i believe one of the tweets said laughs are all it takes and that's my west side story wins best musical comedy it's like hmm it's like maybe just make sure that before it gets i don't know tweeted out it makes sense It makes sense in terms of the fucking sheet you filled out, the drag and drop thing you did for whoever idiot was running your Twitter. I don't think so, honey. Also, just trying to make it sound like announcers were saying. It was simply embarrassing. Here's what you do.

Put the winner in big font and put the category in little font. We have the information. We got it. We'll take care of the celebration. I don't think so, honey, that you need to monitor and present in little font. We have the information. We got it. We'll take care of the celebration. 15 seconds. I don't think so, honey, that you need to monitor and present in this way. I understand that tweets should be funny, but when you're at the Golden Globes,

it's like, just get the information out there. Five seconds. You know what I mean? We've kind of had enough of what your personalities are. So I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Thank you for addressing this. The tweet, I will also i'm also

paraphrasing but um was if laughter is the best medicine then west side then at west side story the movie is the cure for what ails you like it's so funny i think that is one of the that is one of the more iconic tweets of the last several years. If you over the last five years of watching the Oscars and the Golden Globes haven't gotten it in your head that it is all such, so like they're so stupid that I don't know what to do because yes, of course they're fun to watch and, you know, like sort of guess about and they're fun to follow.

But when you watch a ceremony where they can't announce the right winner wrong names of presenters are being said like this tweet thing is happening like you find out about the lack of diversity and like the fact that it's it is what it is like the bullshit gets unveiled about harvey weinstein like you we have to be able to laugh at this shit. It is such a circle jerk, but it is fun. It is fun to follow. I guess I am just, I was about to say like a similar thing

to what I was going to say, to what I said about, and just like that, where I'm like, I do miss the days when I didn't know all that. Yeah. When like I did take it seriously and now there's no going back.

But that's because we got older and learned more. Yeah. I have something. I love to hear that you have something my phone is over there i'm just gonna grab it because i i don't want to make my sister who i'm very afraid of because you should literally see them right now they look like erica jane gerardi they look like erica gerardi literally the house down the way they're looking at me right now I'm gonna get my phone get your phone okay hopefully he doesn't kill me

okay I have the clock up do you have your I don't think so honey topic I do I love that this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey his time starts now I don't think so honey licorice pizza using being the latest thing to like use an asian accent as a play for laughs like i get that all of the adult male figures in this

movie are supposed to be like ridiculous and despicable and he should not want to be like them and that all of his adult male figures in his life are like awful people but the fact that this was used as a runner is what kind of gets to me the most like there was there were at least two times when it came back like or when it was like a beat where like he's trying to speak an asian gibberish language to like his new japanese wife it's like that bullshit thing of like everyone thinking that like asian people are the last race you can make fun of i will i'm here to say that the thing that white people are the least creative about, the number one thing they're the least creative about,

it is Asian jokes. It is joking or making light of Asian people in the way they talk and the way they look. Like, it's enough. Enough. Let's just, like,

move past it. This is not to be all, like, hashtag stop Asian hate. Has that been one minute? Yes, but, yes. But, like, it's just like, why are we, it's taking me out of it, and why can't I just enjoy Danielle Himes'

exquisite acting as a supporting character? And of course, Alana is amazing. I was just like, kind of like, I hate to be like Asian police, but I kind of was like, in my chair at the theater, like, well, that sucks, and now I have to like, spend the next 15 minutes like, rec recalibrating to this because I got so thrown by that by fucking John Michael Higgins doing that insane thing.

I don't know if it was. I don't know if it was P.T. I don't know if it was John Michael Higgins. I don't know. I mean, like they like cast the fuck these fucking Japanese people to be in it. I'm like, this was very intentional. I'm like, this is like very specifically executed. And I'm like,

okay, well, I don't know if it's a good enough reason that like PTA grew up in LA with Japanese restaurants in his life. Like, I don't know.

I don't know. I love him as a director. I think I really enjoy the movie. It just really was this thing that like, kind of like soured the whole thing for me. I don't know.

Yeah. One of our friends was like, it's Lady Bird, but for boys or like, oh yeah, fuck that. I mean, I like it as a coming of age movie.

Yeah. Great. I just, it was this thing where like, I hate that it's being played for laughs in this way. Yeah. I totally understand. I don't think is an accident,

but I think like PTO probably was like, yeah, let's do it. Let's roll. Like, let's, this is what I want. Okay, cool. Cut. Let's move on. Like he was very okay with it in a way that I'm like PTO probably was like yeah let's do it let's roll like let's this is what I want okay cool cut

let's move on like he was very okay with it in a way that I'm like that sucks anyway I like haven't wanted to see it because of that because of the central relationship like oh like it upsets you that like it doesn't upset me it just like why is she 24 and he's 15 like do we need that

for the story I don't I have to I should see it I definitely should see it but all I know is like that for this story? I don't, I have to, I should see it. I definitely should see it. But all I know is like everything I hear about it, I don't love. Okay. Yeah. It is a great moment

to see the Heim sisters sort of act down. Love that. Would love to see more of them in film. We need that. Wishing for the success. We need them on screen.

We need them on screen. Benny Safdie, iconic legend. We love. Did we love Bradley?die, iconic legend. We love. Did we love Bradley? We loved Bradley Cooper. Bradley was funny. Bradley was funny.

But again, like Bradley, Bradley's like sort of, I don't know, portrayal of masculinity is like very specific to that era. And I don't know that it's like specific to that era that like John Michael Higgins would be like someone who's like, I don't know. I'm just like literally, Matt, there's like, like for at leastiggins would be like someone who's like, I don't know. I'm just like literally math. It's like, like for at least like three exchanges, like it's John Michael Higgins and his wife talking to the main character's mom,

who is like trying to like write copy or something for their restaurant. And he's translating to her and like speaking this like psycho Japanese gibberish. And then like three, like, like three lines later, the mom's like, what is she saying?

Or what are you saying? And he goes, oh, I have no idea. I don't know the language. I'm like, what the fuck? Why are we doing this? Yeah, it just feels like there's every other choice in the world.

It's not like it's a snapshot of the era. It's not like it's, I don't know. It's not like it's saying this is something universal about adulthood or masculinity. It's like, it's just, in essence, an Asian joke baldly put out there as an Asian joke. Yeah. That's very odd.

Anyway, that's all. Well, listen, I think that we have an enemy in the Oscar race. Paul Thomas Anderson? It's Paul Thomas. It's PTA. And it's Licorice Pizza. And this year, we're setting our crosshairs on you. You're going down. Readers and publicists,

your job. Your first job. Is to not like Licorice Pizza. Deal? Get the word out there. We don't like it. Do it or you're fired. Sink this film in the Oscar race now. Get out there and do it.

The Oscar race is what everyone cares about. It's the only real thing in this town. Fuck it up for us now. Thank you. I decree. And that's more than say. To decree is more than say. It's rule of culture number 150.

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