Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "She's Up In The Hirschfeld" (w/ Amy Jo Jackson ft. Henry Koperski)

Episode Date: April 4, 2018

Prepare to take a MOONLIGHT SWIM in the VOCALS of today's special guest! That's right! Matt & Bowen present to you another fantastic musical episode of Las Culturistas, and this time, they are joined by the incredible vocal powerhouse, Amy Jo Jackson! And if there's music, you KNOW best friend of the podcast Henry Koperski will be there to masterfully accompany on the keys. Amy sings THREE (3!!) showstoppers for you. What more can you want? How about behind the scenes tidbits from Broadway's Kinky Boots? Or convos about the vocal strains of Wicked or feeling the presence of Bernadette Peters at the Hirschfeld theater or Amy Jo's sick trip to Disney, or seeing The Fellowship Of The Ring 8 times in theaters or creating childhood vignettes with her brother, comedian and former LC guest, Aaron Jackson? It's all here for you! Plus, Matt & Bow present a BRAND NEW SEGMENT featuring a very special someone!---LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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i don't i think i'm trying to like you were trying to i'll tell you what you were trying to do you were trying to make what you felt would make his name more interesting and that's what you were trying to do i give a note on names and you were actually you know what you just did what did i do you correctly pronounces raven simone's name oh but everyone believe it's simone raven simone because she doesn't have an accent over the e yeah that's her failing that's absolutely i would say so now she's someone who you should but she has to choose you know standard linguistic you know whatever annotations i don't know what the hell i'm talking about you know, whatever, annotations. I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. You know what?

I'll cop to this. I was trying to sound smart and cultured, but I failed. There you go. Wow. Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news here on CULT. And we have further breaking news.

Yes. Matt, go ahead. Everyone, this is heartbreaking to say, but we've experienced an influx of requests for sluck to perform around town the town being new york city and sluck is our duo we we dress in filthy garbage filthy garbage makeup and dance and lip sync to a mashup of stuff sluck is retired yeah so sluck will no longer perform because sluck is very physical and we're going to break our bodies yeah but you can see sluck one more time at the last theme party at ucb east which is uh to be determined when that is going to be but that will be slucks last performance yes other than

that i'm sorry but sluck will is suck is only a memory this was a mutual decision so um yeah it feels right um but anyway i'm so excited to be back here because we're here for a very special reason in Ronnie DeSimone's apartment. Aren't we? We are here for a special reason. We have an amazing guest. And we'll get to that guest in a second. But here's the thing. By nature of this guest being here, this is a musical episode.

Yes. And you know what that means. It means. It means we are joined by not even friend of the show best friend of the best friend of the show best friend soulmate of the show history historical part of las culturistas absolutely we're here with pianist is it pianist or pianist i think that's where you're from yeah i guess where it depends well how would you say where you're from i said pianist we have wide a sounds this is the dulcet tones of henry kapurski you're hearing everyone hi henry hi thank you that is so sweet to call me the best friend and

soulmate i would say that you are an intricate part of the show the fabric of the show and you're back here for is this the fourth time you've been on the show? I don't think so honey I suppose it is that might be the record I'm sort of here every episode because I did compose the yes oh my god wait have we given proper credit for that yet?

we have not given proper credit guys the new lost culture is his theme song which some people have reached out to us about they're a little confused about why we had to change it it's very obvious we couldn't license Iko Iko by the Dixie Cups which some people have reached out to us about. They're a little confused about why we had to change it. It's very obvious. Legal reasons. We couldn't license Ico Ico by the Dixie Cups. But Henry Kapersky so, so, so graciously wrote us a theme song.

Yes, beautiful. And it's a beautiful song. Thank you, Henry. It was an honor to do. Yes. I also wrote the theme song for Mateo Lane's podcast. Oh, yes. Which is called?

Inside the Closet. Inside the Closet with Emma Willman. So that's, maybe that'll be my thing. I think it's your new niche. Your new niche. Now, that's not to say that you're not busy. Because I was truly guided when I heard about Henry's upcoming activity.

This is huge. Tell us about what you're going to be doing at 54 Below in the month of May. I was reached out to sub for a music director because he couldn't do a show. And, you know, the pay was right. So I said yes. And the person whose show it is is Countess Luanne.

Countess Luanne de Lesseps. I have never, I'm not bragging. This is just true. I've never seen even'm not bragging. This is just true. I've never seen even a minute of any Desperate Housewives. I have no idea. Real Housewives. He didn't even know the name. He thought it was the Desperate Housewives.

That's how off the grid he is. I used to be just like you. Really? And not but a month ago did I start watching. And I got to say. It's good. I'm really charmed by it and luan especially is a great great great person oh good i'm excited to meet her i she's been through

a lot she's been through a lot she's had a tough year but she she handles everything all her hardship with such grace and diploma and that's what i admire most about her she's been through a lot of shit in life but she always always always picks herself back up that's i have a lot of respect for that yeah if you want to hear the story of lou and this is really a true real story of lou that was told on this podcast go listen to the episode seek treatment with pat regan of this podcast tells the story of lou when she like got in a car accident in the alps and um had to like became to like, became afraid of driving, became afraid of driving, had to,

but like was with her kids rolled off the side of the mountain. I did listen to this episode. I am. My other credit is I'm Pat Regan's biggest fan. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

We forgot to say. Right. Henry is Pat Regan's biggest fan. Although I could give you a run for that. I could give you a run for that too. Oh my God. Pat and I are going to go see once on this Island in April together. Oh my God.

I saw it last week. Oh my God. One of the best things i've ever ever seen wow yeah and that is actually that's actually a beautiful segue a beautiful segue into our guests into our guests now we've recorded we've just recorded three stunning musical moments with our guests. Stunning. Henry is accompanying here in the studio. Truly a superstar. Absolute superstar. Now, the show that we're promoting, it's called I Want to Be Your Man. Yes. Now, Henry and I saw this, and we saw it at 54 Below.

And it was one of the best shows. We had a great seat. We were right off the stage. That was a true. Yeah, we were at the foot of the stage. Matt's jaw was on the table the best shows. We had a great seat. We were right off the stage. That was a true. Yeah, we were at the foot of the stage. Matt's jaw was on the table the whole time. I believe it. I believe it.

He wept multiple times. I did. I cried. I'm very open during shows and performances. Every show and performance, I'm very open. No matter what. Even if it's in the basement and it's improv, I'll be crying. But this had me moved to the nth degree.

I'm not surprised this guest truly i i think everyone in the room is privileged to see her i mean anytime she she performs on stage and the show is happening again an updated version of the show is happening again it's amy joe jackson's i want to be your man it's on april 13th at 9 30 p.m this is friday the 13th but embrace the good part about that oh yeah don't be scared of any omen do you know i mean look i was scared don't be scared i was uh what do you call it not spontaneous superstitious child i was a very superstitious child and um uh my mom has me afraid of like i i don't wear socks in the bed because i feel like someone will come out of the closet i don't walk under ladders because i feel like i'll die i never step on

cracks if you want someone to come out of the closet just wear some socks in bed it's actually rule of culture number six if you want someone to come out of the closet wear your socks in the bed um and i'll show where is it gonna be it's gonna be at green room 42 new event coming in space yes and this is unbelievable not a drink minimum in sight honey that is just good times and this is one night only again 9 30 on friday april 13th the show is i want to be your man it's at green room 42 and the star of the show is amy joe jackson hello hello we're so excited we should just say henry is Amy Jo Jackson! Hello. Hello! Amy Jo! We're so excited to have you.

We should just say Henry has to leave, and so he's heading out. We should also mention that Amy Jo is, you know, one of the preeminent cabaretists in the city. Yes. Talk about her credits. Okay, she's dialect coached on Kinky Boots since the original first Broadway run, and I believe the tours?

The first national, it's now non-union so mama mama can't be working on that no no trouble but i also worked on the toronto production and i've been with the show since the out of town in chicago in 2012 amazing amazing and then also rocky horror picture show on fox and um just just so so many a litany of credits she working she working and it's oh my god it's our privilege to talk to you amy um i'm so excited we've heard the performances i'm so excited for everyone to hear them i'm not kidding this show was it was so good what you're doing is so special thanks so tell us a little bit about the show what inspired you to do it sure uh so i've i had done a couple of solo acts before at 54 Below.

It's something like I've been wanting to do since I got to the city and just never got my act together. And then managed to do a solo show that was just basically like, this is a big party. Come on. And then I was thinking like, I really want to do another show. And I always have like eight playlists going of different show ideas. And I just was finding myself more and more infuriated at the way women are written for, not written for. Basically the way like anyone who's not a cis dude is written for, you know. And the way that I'm talking in all kinds of the arts, but specifically theater is like, you know, where I live most of the time.

So the way that a lot of male material can be about anything and the way a lot of female material is about a child or a love interest, that sort of thing, or it's just not that deep. And it's getting better but it just infuriates me and i don't like feeling impotent rage i like to feel potent rage

exactly so i basically was like well screw this i you know what i'm i'm also six feet tall i played a lot of male roles, especially like in Shakespeare. I think until a show I did just before the last time I did the concert in 2016, I, I would, I had more male Shakespearean roles on my resume than female. And also in Shakespeare,

like that's very common to just do gender blind casting or fluid casting. But I, you know, I was like, Oh, it's not just that i'm tall and it's it's that stepping into this kind of material unlocks something in me like it unlocks this permission to be aggressive and completely assertive in a way that is sometimes considered

unfeminine or bitchy or bossy right uh And so there's something incredibly freeing about being able to stand on the stage and say, this is my point of view and I'm not going to apologize for it. I'm not going to try and make it palatable. So it's not like a preachy show. Not at all. But just like what I have selected

centers a femme identifying body in a position of power and strength. And, you know, so I did it in May of 2016, a couple nights at 54 Below, and I had a great time, and a lot of folks, particularly female-identifying folks who saw it, like, really warmed to it and got exactly what I was saying. But then, you know, a lot happened in between May of 2016 and now. Did it? I don't remember.

Who reads Twitter? And so I just had been thinking, you know, there's a lot of other shows I want to do. And I've been working a lot regionally. So I just I didn't do like a solo show last year. And it's just like, you know what? I feel like rather than crafting something new, I want to dive back into that because it feels even more prescient. Totally. Important.

And like, I also think that some of the people who didn't necessarily get what I was trying to do last time because of the national conversation with Thumbs Up and Me Too and blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. I think there's more of an awareness of like oh that's that's what this is really about yeah right uh and so yeah i'm really excited it feels right to do it again i would say it's about 85 the same we've just changed a couple songs adding a song or two and some of the guests are different um they're not all 100 confirmed so i

can't say right we can't be saying. Well, everyone stay tuned for the guest announcement. So every song in the show is traditionally performed by a male character. By a male character or is written by a male musician. It's performed by a male rock singer or what have you. Right, right, right. So yes, it's all male material. Yes, I remember you did a certain Maroon 5 song.

Oh, yes. Is that still in the gig? Oh, it sure is. Yeah, I have an 11-minute medley called the Inevitable Sexist Medley right in the middle of the show. Love it. And that's primarily like pop and rock.

And it's funny you mentioned that one because that, I also, I don't listen to a lot of radio pop. So like, I had to actually do some deep dive reese i was on a regional gig and i was like all right i'm just gonna sit and watch a lot of music videos and i was just like the rage it was like a whole week i was just watching these terrible music videos of these songs like you know i was like okay okay i've put this medley together now i gotta step away for a second but that was one that like I had heard, but I, you know, didn't really know. And I was watching the music video for that, which is.

It's wild. It's terrifying. Yeah. You know, but there was. Moon Five Animals. Yes. Baby, I'm preying on you tonight. Hunt you down, eat you alive.

Just like animals. But it's catchy. So who's listening? So I. America. Yeah. Everybody's listening now um but yeah so i i actually have there's this guy who came and reviewed it just like a caperay blogger and he he you know he thought the medley was a bit long and i was like well that's part of the fucking point like yes no one needs an 11 minute medley but when it is called the inevitable sexist

medley part of the point is yeah you think it is a little long and you gotta bludgeon them to the audience with all this information and and animal animals was one of the ones that he mentioned as a possibility to cut and i was like oh so you've never been followed down the street and had to duck into a duane reed in the hopes that some creepy dude will stop following you. You've never like pretended to call a friend to say you're going to their house so that when you walk into your own apartment, they don't think it's yours.

Like I was like, you just never had that as part of your reality, sir. So you don't understand. That's the tea. That is the fucking tea. And with everything that Amy Jo just said, I just want to quote Guy Branum who quoted some English literary critic

in saying that men act and women appear. Because I think that is the whole sort of unifying theory of what you're trying to do, which is so cool. I'm so excited to see it. Yes. Oh, my God. It's true. And also, outside of it being incredibly moving and important,

you're also an incredible performer as we should actually hear right now now tell us about this first song that you and henry are gonna do yes so i'm very coy with my set lists so i i don't the stuff that i'm doing tonight is not stuff that's in my show but it is evocative of yes the stuff that's in my show. So this first one, I think many people will recognize. It's a show. It's a song I've done a lot and performed around, but this is very much the vibe of the type of thing you might see at an Amy Jo Jackson event. Yes. Okay, cool. Well, let's get into it. How do you do, I? See, you've met my faithful handyman.

He's just a little brought down, because when you knocked, he thought you were the candyman. Don't get strung out by the way I look. Don't judge a book by its cover I'm not much of a man By the light of day But by night I'm one hell of a lover I'm just a sweet transvestite

From transsexual Transylvania Why don't I show you around? Sexual Transylvania. Why don't I show you around? Maybe play you a sound. You look like you're both pretty groovy. Or if you want something visual that's not too abysmal, we could take in an old Steve Reeves movie. Well, you got caught with the flat. Well, how about

that? Now, babies, don't you panic by the light of the night. It'll all seem alright. I'll get you a satanic mechanic. I'm just a sweet transvestite

from transsexual transylvania why don't you stay for the night or maybe a bite I could show you my favorite obsession I've been making a man with blonde hair and a tan

and he's good for relieving my tension I'm just a sweet transvestite from transsexual Transylvania. Hit it, hit it, I'm just a sweet transvestite from transsexual Transylvania. So, come up to the lab and see what's on the slab. I see you shiver with anticipation. Well, maybe the rain is really to blame. So I'll remove the cause. But not the symptom! Yes! Forever!

Oh my god, forever! Forever! Amy Jo! Amy Jo! Woo! Oh, that was, that was like, because, okay, I'm not familiar with Rocky Horror, I will just say.

Oh, you're not a Rocky Horror person? I've never seen it. Wow. Are you? Isn't that sinful? Yeah, I've done it. I've played Magenta. And then growing up,

like, you would go to a friend's house for like a nerdy theater party yeah and on the on in the background would always be either Rocky Horror uh Monty Python and the Holy Grail or Waiting for Guffman those were what were a hundred percent of theater parties you nailed it you nailed it honestly I remember the first Rocky Horror picture I saw was it actually at myu during welcome week they did this they had to put it on a rocky horror for welcome week and i'm like very closeted at the time and from long island but had like a very sheltered like american eagle life um so like the most salacious thing i had ever seen was like when someone got off got voted off on american idol like too early that was like controversy to me wow so i go there and everyone's of course dressed the part

and i wore like my like polo and i'm like there and i couldn't believe the culture are you scandalized it was i was scandalized deeply yeah and i i actually can't believe it's gotten to that point what do you mean like like it's such a cult thing the whole rock and roll thing it's amazing oh yeah totally it's really fun to do so i did it in asbury park new jersey um on in this the carousel house so it's like when it was like an operating boardwalk back in the day it was there was a carousel in there that now is no longer in there so people use it for like an event space and so it's it's open like it's it's like closed off but not And so it's, it's open,

like it's, it's like closed off, but not completely like windproof or anything. So we're doing it in October. Cause we're doing it around Halloween. So we're doing it in October, early November in New Jersey on, on the beach basically. And of course it's Rocky Horror.

So everyone's wearing like, it's a no pants show. Let's put it that way. And so we, we would, we, it's like, they had like blocked off half of it so you're kind of kind of the whole space was basically like a semi-circle and then the stage was like a semi-circle within that so they had these two big bombs these aisles that you would run down so we would stand there shivering in our coats at the back of the bomb and then the music would start and i was the first one on because because magenta sings science fiction double feature and like we would just i'm just

like throw my coat to the ground and run and there was a guy who he i think he was one of the board ops but he would be there to gather all of the coats of these poor young women who were like yeah and then like put them back at our station so at intermission we could like put them on um but it was really fun what's really fun about the show is you get people who know it really well and all the call outs and it feels like you're like you're a rock star because they know you're magenta even though they have no idea who you are so you appear they're like yes and you're like i've not earned this at all but it feels so good uh and so it's really fun that's so interesting but i've never i've never actually gone to a midnight screening of the movie but i believe you guys

are room fans why the big room i have been to many of that was my first date with my husband oh my god that's amazing i had watched all of it in a uh in a dressing room before like a friend had he was like you guys have to see because i was in a dressing room with the guys it was a long story but um so he was like you guys have to have to watch this movie so he did highlights and then we went there and spent an entire week at half hour we just watched chunks of it oh yeah i mean even in one sitting well we could you know we had to go do a dumb show oh sure you know normally i love my job but that was not one of those jobs that i love we were like can we just hang out in the dressing room where it's safer we're not gonna get hurt on stage i'm not talking about rocky har i'm talking about another show altogether but um but yeah i have a picture of the room

i have a pitch okay the room the musical i think it's on its way people there must be somebody it's gotta happen you're tearing me apart lisa there's there's ballad if air i heard you you are my rose into a full number like you you must i'm my rose you we joked about uh that being our first dance at our wedding it was not thank god you didn't do that nobody would know but us but we would be like we did not take the whole wedding thing very seriously let's put it that way so we're like wouldn't it be great was that his idea to go see the movie you know um he it's funny like we had like so i've met him like a couple years before working on a show and then you know so i'd seen him we were in like the same big circle of friends at the flea so i'd worked with i knew him

but we'd never really like hung out hung out and then um yeah i reconnected with him like after a show that he was in that i went and saw we were like hanging out at the bar and i was like why have i never really thought about this jeff ronan character and we're kind of flirting and like nothing really happened but then he like posted something to facebook because there were a group of people that were gonna go see this film and i was like i'm gonna message him and i got there earlier so i only saved two seats because i didn't know there was like this group of like i knew there were other people but i didn't know how many and so he ended up just sitting with me apart from all the friends and

we were like oh we had like a moment you know a little moment we're like oh so we count that as our as our first that's that's great that's great I think I I from hearing this story it sounds like a date wait all right okay I have this question you okay what is the most this is this this is weirdly phrased what's the most excruciating pain that you've had to suffer through for in in the name of theater let's say oh wow physical or otherwise this fall on bravo it's time to turn up think you've seen it all i don't think you've been a good friend to me lately we're friends like that who needs enemies you ain't seen nothing yet cheers to being dramatic with the real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in?

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There's a few, right? Um, I would probably say my ursula costume okay but not in one go cumulatively sure okay you know because i was wearing i was wearing five and a half inch platform heels which were actually pretty comfortable but then i was wearing these huge hit pads that like the order the costume it took three people to get me in and out of it was like i was in the you know 1700s in france is it mobile uh i've likened it to driving a small golf cart um so i practiced a lot in it because i am very anal retentive and i was like i don't want the costume to wear me i need to be in charge of it yeah but but limited mobility like I and luckily we did a photo shoot the first week so I had been in it

so when we were staging stuff I was like I don't think I can do that but we can try this wow I don't think walking backwards is going to be possible sure because there's just like a lot going on that I couldn't see and if you go down you're not getting back up you know so yeah it had these big hip pads. And then this, I was wearing a corset that stayed on the whole time. Yeah. Like the bodice. That's gotta be horrible.

You know, it wasn't that it was tight. It was that it had all these mirrored plastic pieces and rhinestones on the front, which looked amazing. It looked like a disco ball when the light hit me. But it did mean that it would scrape underneath my arms. So when I'd get off stage, I had like either a hoodie or like a blanket that they gave me that i tuck into it and they put moleskin on it so that it was like not as bad but so i had like scratches all over my arms excuse me equity my costume is killing me well that's every show you get to a certain age and it's every show damn hell yeah so i did so then you'd put the

skirt on top of that and it was pretty tight and then the tentacles were on a belt that would go on on top of that wow i would say when i was experiencing menstrual cramps it was unbearable don't know it all sat right it all like leaned into that and so like it wasn't so bad because I would not stay in it the whole time because I couldn't sit down. Tech was bad because I was when we did the Poor Unfortunate Soul scene in song. That's two hours plus that I was in it in one go. So every time we would have a hold, a dresser would come running out from the wings with a chair. They would then pull my skirt up so I could kneel on it so I could get off the shoes. So it was more just that cumulatively so I could kneel on it so I could get off the shoes so it was more

just that cumulatively because I couldn't bend in it and then I was in this like super like weird posture like my upper glutes got so tight and I couldn't really walk that well out of costume because I was some mess but you know I learned a lot about like how much I'd need to be rolling out and that sort of thing oh my god there's got to be a better way to costume Ursula. To say nothing of the hair even. I'm sure you had some like insane ways. I had a huge wig. It actually was very comfortable.

Okay, good. But I couldn't lie down or sit back in it, you know. You know what? I would also like part of the thing is I was so tired because it took, I was doing full drag makeup and like blocking my brows. I was going to say that's full. The whole thing is drag. It was so drag, but it was also like glue only dries so fast.

And I'm, as someone who hadn't done drag up to that point, I didn't know how to like, other than like, okay, I use a blow dryer and put it on cool to try and make them go faster, but like make it go, because I also had the lace front, had a widow's peak and it came down super far. And so if my brows weren't really dry by the time i put the stuff on then it would get stuck in there and it would start to come off so it was just like i had to get there i left myself i would get there two and a half hours before curtain so i could go

upstairs into the studio and stretch and then i'd leave myself two hours to do everything it normally only took about an hour 30 to an hour 40, but like it, cause I just wasn't fast at it. If I'd done the show for like a year, it would have been a lot faster, but it was a regional run. So, so I would say probably that whole cumulative experience.

I was so tired. It was so much fun because it is the number is one of the best. It's incredible. And it's like, I am evil auntie Mame. So it was just so perfect. That is a really good part for you. And apparently I found out from the director,

she told me we had a night of drinks the first weekend that everybody was there. She's like, you know what? You booked it on your first line. When you came in and used a liquid you saying Ursula, I was like, that's our girl. I was like, wow, could I not use a liquid you? Amy Jo books on elocution alone.

Yes. If it's the right director, honey. So speaking of, you are currently the voice coach on Kinky Boots. Dialect. Dialect coach. I am. I'll be there on Friday.

So I need to ask about Miss Todrick. Oh, yes. Because Todrick Hall was in the show for a while. Yeah, for a little while. Yeah, like three months. Three, four months. Good to work with. Oh, yeah.

I just, so many people that have come in, you know, also when there's stunt casting. Yeah, right. You never know what you're going to get. You never know. But like so many people that have come in have just like nailed it. And watching Todrick work, number one, just like very like warm and like eager to do really well. Like,

and his, his commitment to excellence is really like inspiring. Well, and so normally you'll put people in, like I'll work with them early on, especially with playing Lola. There's so many lines. And you know, a lot of people haven't worked in an accent so they're very nervous about it

uh and so I try to get to them early on so that I can kind of calm that right right down a lot of my job is just like traffic directing I really you know and then just like here's where you're going correctly and here's where we could just take a left turn you know yeah but um then then they get on stage and start uh walking through the blocking with stage management or the associates and uh and also learning the choreography from the dance captain and he you know he wasn't writing anything down and he would get i would seem like do one pass at it he'd be like okay let's do it again and he'd do it perfectly the second time after learning some people got it and that is not you know dance is not my language so i look at that i'm like oh wow i'm so impressed by it no he's he's pretty

incredible i mean he's like when i first like when i first really was like oh my god this person is so serious is in his videos where he would do the cover the mashups covers of all the pop star songs and he would just there's four of him and he does the choreography perfectly in sync with each other. And he's like nailing the vocals and also the personality charisma. It's just like, he's very all there. Wonderful to watch on stage.

Just like fills that space. and he, I got to meet RuPaul in the show. I knew that Ru was coming to his opening and Ru like, so, so basically if there's like going to be a photo op with a celebrity or something, the cast just, after curtain call, will hang out in the wings and then come and do, like, a photo. So I'm like, the dance captain and I are running backstage because we know RuPaul is there. Oh, my gosh.

And Rue, like, starts talking to the cast, was just so generous, just just like I didn't know what at all to expect and you each and every one of you just brought such tremendous energy and what a story and you told so beautifully like

he loves Kinky Boots he talks about it on What's the Tea I have not caught up with my What's the Tea so I'll have to I'll have to take a listen but it was just so special

and of course you know for so many people in that show and you work on on Kinky Boots like we're lovable so it was just so special and of course you know for so many people in that show and you work on on kinky boots like we love rupaul so it was very exciting so like the dance captain who wasn't in the show that night um and i were both like hanging out to them like oh i don't you know like should we go talk to rupaul because we're like clearly who are we clearly belong with the show but who are we so eventually like you know like go up I haven't been starstruck in in like 20

years probably and I was just like grinning like a fool I got to say like you know I'm the dialect coach but I was like you know thank you so much you're such an inspiration you know yes you know blah blah blah like you know and and he was just like so so chill and then just like now there was a dialect coach back in in hollywood in the blah blah blah name so and so and i i have nothing to contribute to the conversation i'm just grinning like uh-huh i can't even say like oh yes you know so and so from the like i know names of people who are working now but i was just like struck deep to my core with just like so it was it was lovely he was holding court at that point oh yeah yeah he

does do that thing of he does do that like um kind of like person who's been around thing of like you know back in this time this was the person who did this and everyone's just like yeah yeah yeah at that age you've earned it yeah 100 when we get to be that age, we'll of course be so self-managed. I'm like that now. I'm gonna say, I knew Amy Jo Jackson when she was doing a show at the Green Room 42. On Friday, April 13th at 9.30 p.m. It was called I Wanna Be Your Man.

And it was fabulous. Oh my God, I can't wait for this show. I truly, I mean, it's like we're, you are gonna be obsessed. It feels like we're shoehorning in the promo, but I truly am. That's my favorite part of the show, I think. My favorite part of doing the show, I was thinking about this on the way here, because I was excited, because

we were gonna get to do this, is letting people know where they can see the most talented people, and also understanding that, like, this might be a lot of people's first introduction to people like yourself. Although, I think it was Gabby hornig we were talking to gabby i was talking to gabby a while back and it was just like the fact that we had booked amy joe jackson for our first i don't think so many live show he was like that was that was worth the price of admission alone for someone

like him he was like to see amy joe i have to go. I have to scream. I was so thrilled that you asked me to do that. Because I'm not a comedian. I am a comedian. Yes. I am a farceur. Yes, yes. But not, you know. Oh, we haven't even talked about the fact that Aaron Jackson's my brother.

I know. Well, Aaron Jackson on the show two weeks ago. The brother, the little brother. Little brother. Taller, but younger. But younger of Amy Jo Jackson. I would love to hear what Aaron Jackson was like as a younger brother and continues to be like to this day.

Well, we've always been best friends. We're two years apart, so we were in the same circles all the time. I will say, he was a brat. Was he a brat? Because he and my mom are very, very similar in how they process information and negotiate conflict, which is to say it got very loud sometimes. Oh, my God. Eric can get loud. Could you imagine?

Can you imagine? So they're just both really stubborn. And they're also they're not bickerers, but with each other, they would bicker. And like my dad and I are like, no, thank you. And I would be like, oh, this is some shade on me. They would be like fighting because Aaron wouldn't want to do something. My mom would be trying to, you know, parent with authority. And I would be like feeling the stress of that.

And I would go to my room and cry and write poems. I am not kidding. I wish I were, but I've always been a caricature of myself. No, that's beautiful. I think I did the poem things too. Did you do poems? I drew a lot.

Oh, beautiful. More visual. That was my outlet. But that sounds, that all tracks, I think all of that tracks. Absolutely. I'm going to go. Well, by the time this comes out this will have

happened already but I'm spending a whole weekend with him at your parents house in Breckenridge wait what oh my god I can't wait I've seen pictures of the house it's lovely Aaron himself has described it as a Republican man so like that's accurate that's very accurate I can't wait

I can't wait yeah but I mean gorgeous gorgeous I got to I've worked a couple of times at like That's accurate. That's very accurate. I can't wait. I can't wait. But I mean, gorgeous. Gorgeous. I've worked a couple of times at like very recently and then like a number of summers ago, I worked at this little theater in Silverthorne, which is like 20 minutes away from Breckenridge, where my parents' place is. So I got to stay there. And I got to say, when you can live very comfortably, it does make usual actor housing very unattractive. I mean come on I can't really imagine. But as we talk about the family, the upbringing we should ask the question that we ask

every single guest and I truly, I have such suspense and anticipation of Remy Jo's answer to the question which is what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? What made you move in a cultural direction? And I really, I'm so curious to know what this is.

There was a certain smell in the air, and you didn't know what it was at the time, but you found out later that it was culture after you followed the smell to your cultural place. You were the shark, it was the blood in the water. That seems accurate. That feels right. Well, i will say

i have until more recently i didn't really have anything but culture to think or talk about so i never wanted to go in any other direction like my aunt tells me stories about she's like you've been talking about moving to new york and being in the theater since you were four i'm like oh really i don't even remember that. Um, but as far as like more specific things, cause I thought about this, I was like, God,

it feels like overwhelming. Cause it's like, that's all I was interested in. So I, I narrowed it down to a, a more generic list and we'll use it as a jumping off. I just pictured you at four being like, I think I'm going to live in Harlem.

So you close to the subways, pop down by that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be Harlem. So we get close to the subways, pop down, I think by that time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It'll be great. It'll be great. Yeah. This is a very ridiculous and revealing story about myself that my grandmother used to love to tell when I was like two.

She just called me Pumpkin one day. She's like, hey, Pumpkin. And I said, I am not a pumpkin. I am Amy Renee Jackson. Amy Renee. Which, spoilers, that's the real name. pumpkin one day she's like hey pumpkin and i said i am not a pumpkin i am amy renee jackson amy renee spoilers that's the real name i love it amy joe the joe in addition the joe is a nickname i got in college and i it was just bouncy and it stuck so i love that yeah it rolls off it truly rolls off i love that wait this list let's do it okay okay so the the the list would probably primarily like most influential would include uh british television specifically british comedy a la

a bit of friday and laurie blackadder jeeves and wooster and then like british murder mysteries um and then we have broadway because i've never not been a nerd uh so that includes like movie musicals and soundtracks to them as well as original broadway cast recordings yes anything i could get my hands on old hollywood like i grew up like my dad and i would watch like any any carrie grant or katherine hepburn film love all that you share that with aaron oh well i mean because we grew up in the same house yes right but aaron even also said agatha christie just like mysteries well and then the last one being books yeah i read everything and i was a a big old snob as a kid so it was either gonna be like something mysterious maybe with ghosts yeah or it was going to be like literature yes so

um and i was like the kid that would like we'd be walking from the cafeteria back to the classroom with ghosts or it was going to be like literature. Yes. And I was like the kid that would like, we'd be walking from the cafeteria back to the classroom and I'd be reading using my periphery to navigate because I was like, I don't give a fuck. I like this book. Yeah. It's more interesting than all of you. Than safety, than hallway safety.

Than hallway safety. I was safe. I could see where I was going. I'm so jealous of those people. Henry bothers me when he's looking at his phone and not looking around. It's my pet peeve of mine. I think everyone should be looking up Amy Jo. That's a little different.

Not in a hallway when you're walking single file in elementary school. I forget that the kids have to walk in lines. Not navigating a middle school busy hallway. Okay, okay. Not that shark infested waters. No. But when you're walking in the street in public, that's different. You know, it's actually rule of

culture number 17. These kids in elementary school walking in two straight lines. It's very gendered. Oh yeah, we did used to do that, didn't we? We walk in two lines. Oh, there was two lines, a boy line and a girl line

in my school wait Amy did you spend most of your childhood did you spend any time in Colorado or was it mostly Texas it was mostly Texas I finished up high school there we moved when I was 16 so I did junior and senior year in Colorado and then you know would go back there

and like now that my parents have this place in Breck that's where I prefer to go we can infer that you were doing theater all throughout your childhood oh god yes you know, would go back there. Right. And like now that my parents have this place in Breck, that's where I prefer to go. Nice. We can infer that you were doing theater all throughout your childhood. Oh, God, yes. And into high school. You couldn't, you couldn't stop me.

Yeah, no. If I wasn't doing it with a group, then it was forced upon my family. It was a solo act in the house. Yes. Or I would inscript, Aaron, you know, like we did love a dress up moment.

You know, also like i'm of the age where everyone didn't have a video camera so they my parents borrowed one from friends so there is this legendary legendary video and i am i think i want to say fifth grade and erin's third grade so erin is still adorable yeah and i'm just at the age where it's like, that's a little much, kid. You know what I mean? But we're so excited. And you can watch it and your heartburn's like, okay. Okay.

As we're just vignette to vignette to vignette. Oh my god. Original pieces? Some were inspired. We did a version of Cinderella. And we also did plenty, you know, different. We also did a tour of Cinderella. And we also did plenty, you know, different. We also did a tour of the house. But we did the most humiliating thing.

Like this is the thing that you put on. Oh, yeah. It was Aaron jumping on the bed. Oh, look at this room. Shockingly, Aaron's jumping on this bed too, you know. But I did. Oh, my God. I thought I could do ventriloquism.

I was wrong, but I was committed. And there's this bit of me singing some song, I don't remember what, with, you know, those little pre-packaged gift boxes that when you open them up, they make noise? Yes, yes, yes. Okay, for whatever reason, I have one of those, and I'm making that my puppet. I mean, it is excruciating.

And then... And they're so long, theating and then and they're so long the videos oh they're so long i mean the thing is now it's genius yeah like are they were too the vignettes they needed to be cut but now it's like please let this never stop but the other thing that i then did was hitch up my elastic waist denim pants and do a jaleel White and Family Matters impression as Urkel. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. It was not good, authentic, or appropriate. Hey, you hit all three.

You hit all three distasteful trifecta. While you could. While you could. Just great in the 90s. It was a time. You know what? You get a free pass with that. Free pass.

So, Aaron, proud of him now or whatever? He's fine. Yeah. No, I mean, are you kidding? I'm so thrilled. I'm so proud of him always, but I mean, it's just ridiculous. Now, I ran into a friend on the train today and we're just like, oh, hey, I haven't seen her in like two years.

And we're chatting. She's like, oh, by the way, big fan of Aaron. I was like, right? I mean, I know I'm biased, but right? Yeah. But both of you are just this like i don't know it feels like you don't really get these sort of like sibling talent pairings anymore and you guys just are are in your own lanes but then you also cross like merge lanes sometimes too it's it's so wonderful i mean like the first times i ever saw amy joe was at a gay show for all people and i mean yeah i think same blew my socks off yeah um was that this is that the expression but anyway my socks off

knocked my socks off i can't believe i'm correcting you for once in my life blew my mind and uh of course sucked my socks off my socks off um that age old adage that age old adage i will say this about aaron like you know people in people in the comedy community oftentimes they go on to greater success and you know sometimes there's that feeling of like oh it happened it happened for them amongst the community like like when will it happen for me like you're happy for them but you're like there's like this like a little with aaron and josh i think everyone in the community that everybody i know was just like leaping to their feet absolutely a hundred percent we're so happy

for them so proud of them that's not just because they're our dear friends because they are funny and they have worked their guts out yes together yeah for years yeah like It's such a great example of finding your people and finding your voice. And then that leading you to greater success. It's tremendous and it's very exciting. It's inspiring to me. It really is. I mean, and just to know that,

especially Aaron, I mean, Aaron was a teacher at UCB for quite a long time and he just had, I think, probably thousands of like students coming to see him like over the years like and now to see him on television and it's just so great I've recently went to the went to the taping of the opposition to see that piece that they did with Kim Davis oh yeah that was unreal amazing so good the gay who would be clerk the gay who would be clerk again riffing on

classic films yes you know okay can we talk about a bit of Fry and Laurie because I feel like I completely missed the boat on that

so did I and I would love to hear just so my parents always loved Black Adder and Jeeves and Wooster and then of course through those you find Hugh Laurie

and Stephen Fry so so we had this one I think we had like the VHS that was like the best of a bit of Fry and Laurie so I watched that a million times but now you can find a ton of it like sure available online but I just I just love the way they work together and they're just so I don't know they're so funny and they do so you know they're a fantastic sketch duo in the fact that like there's not always one like playing the alpha and one playing the beta you know they like really like play around with all sorts of different ways in which they position

themselves towards each other but also just like the runs that they would do there's this one really i it's it's like unbelievable that it is like such a funny sketch because you're like the premise is just like a guy interviewing another guy who likes to talk about language. You're like, okay, fine. But Stephen Fry does this whole thing where the character is just so over the top. So listen to me, listen to me. Language. And just, it's the commitment to like the fullness

of the performance that I, as someone who's never been understated, really responds to. We identify with you. Yes, absolutely. I know, I think perhaps it's why I enjoy listeningated, really responds to. We identify with you. Yes, absolutely. I know, I think perhaps it's why I enjoy listening to the pods, so. I feel like that is just,

I'm sort of on the other side of the glass in terms of just British comedy in general. I feel like I just, I never fully got my chance with it. You would really like, I mean, I would imagine, you like Tracy Ullman. I were really like, I mean, I would imagine, you know, you like Tracy Allman.

I don't really know. Oh, okay. I like have seen a little bit, but here's the thing. Like if, if it did, if I wasn't watching it when I was much younger,

then I, I missed a lot because I stopped watching TV because I was like, doing theater. I'm like, now I'm, I'm so behind. I think you would have a deep appreciation for Tracy Ullman.

Like, because she's truly a genius. Truly a genius. Like, I think one of the best impressionists, character creators, just comedians out there. And actually, this is another really good segue because she played Jack's mother in the film of into the woods she did and i i haven't i've heard that you are about to grace us with uh something a little bit

of a medley right now a little bit of a mash talk about what we're about to do yes this is uh this is a piece i got asked to do at this concert at Joe's Pub last year called Sondheimas. It was actually the day before I Don't Think So Honey Live. It was right around that time. This is a mashup that was arranged by the brilliant Stephen Cuevas, who was one of the

MDs on the Kinky Boots tour. Sondheimas is basically the birthday Joe's Pub concert that Maggie Larkin and David Levy produce every year. And so this past year they did Sondheimus mixtape. And so they had a bunch of Sondheim mixed with other shows. So this is called Into the Fun Home.

And I just think it's so smart. And I love doing it. I especially love doing it, which will make sense when you hear it, doing it in slightly more conservative communities. Yes. Because it is just a little of like, oh! So I think that's all we need to know. Great. Let's listen to it. What happened last night?

Are you really here? Joan, Joan, Joan, Joan, Joan. Hi, Joan! Don't wake up, Joan! Oh my God, last night. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, last night. Mother said, straight ahead, not to delay or be misled. I should have heeded her advice but she seemed so nice. When you're way up high and you're on your own in a world like none that you've ever

known where the sky is lead and the earth is stone you're free to do whatever pleases you. Exploring things you'd never dare Cause you don't care when suddenly there's A big, tall, terrible Joan at the door A big, tall, terrible lady, Joan Sweeping the floor And she gives you food and she gives you rest And she draws you close to her giant breast

I got so excited I was too enthusiastic Thank you for not laughing while you laughed a little bit At one point when I was touching you and said I might lose consciousness Which you said was adorable and I just have to trust That you don't think I'm an idiot or some kind of an animal. I never lost control due to overwhelming lust but I must say that I'm changing my major to Joan. I'm changing my major to sex with Joan. I'm changing my major to sex with Joan with a minor in kissing Joan. Foreign study to Joan's inner thighs, a seminar on Joan's ass in her Levi's and

Joan's crazy brown eyes. Joan, I feel like Hercules. Oh God, that sounds ridiculous. Just keep on sleeping through this And I'll work on calming down So by the time you've woken up I'll be cool, I'll be collected And I'll have found some dignity But who needs dignity? Cause this is so much better

I'm radiating happiness Will you stay here with me For the rest of the semester? We won't need any food We'll live on sex alone Sex with Joan. And she showed me things, many beautiful things that I hadn't thought to explore. They were off my path, so I never had dared. I had been so careful, I never had cared. And she made me feel excited. Well, excited and scared.

I am writing a thesis on Joan. It's a cutting edge field and my mind is blown. I will gladly stay up every night to hone my compulsory skills with Joan I will study my way down her spine Familiarize myself with her well-made outline While she researches mine And you think of all of the things you've seen And you wish that you could live in between And you're back again again only different than before after the sky and i know things now many valuable things that i hadn't known before

do not put your faith in a cape and a hood they will not protect you the way that they should. And take extra care with strangers. Even flowers have their dangers. And though scary is exciting, nice is different than good. Yay! Genius! Genius! Oh my gosh amy jo and henry amazing okay i love that because i feel like i never i feel like changing my manager changing my manager never got its full like moment i feel like i think it did get it's so good well i feel like you ring of keys like yeah walk away with everything also that's

also because sydney lucas was just transcendent yes yes with that song and because it's so like um the feel of it is an anthemic but the the subject matter is like iconic and anthemic yes but changing my major i think is it's so good and so beautiful and so moving and so like oh my god like i remember like that girl that you know that time in your life where it just where it awakens it awakens it awakens you you feel like that's all you want to do is to like sleep with someone you know like mash your body with someone else's body and just sit there and like watch them sleep so you can look at their cheekbones you know very evocative We're all dead inside now. And Into the Woods, also part of that.

I have a question for you. So are you a fan of the recent sort of renaissance of the movie musicals? And have you seen, you know, did you see the, I would love to hear your opinion on The Greatest Showman. I would love to hear like what you think of the sort of adaptations that have been happening and like what you think of the sort of adaptations that have been happening and like what your thoughts are on all of them I am a fan

of anything that employs more theater people and especially employs them in a thing that's going to make them a lot of money like Keala Settle come on she performed in the Oscars like that's our girl I'm thrilled when that sort of thing happens Like, Keala Settle, come on. She performed in the Oscars. Like, that's our girl. Yes, she did. That's great. Yes, she did.

I'm thrilled when that sort of thing happens. I don't necessarily need to take it in. Like, I went and saw Into the Woods because that was my favorite show, like, for, like, all of adolescence. Right, yeah. Like, talk about, okay, talk about, like, a culture moment. Like, Aaron and I watched that so many times. That, like, video from the original. With Bernadette.

Yes. Bernadette and Joanna Gleeson, who I was obsessed with. Truly amazing. So brilliant. So beautiful. Imagine being in the same show as Bernadette Peters as the witch

and you win the Tony. Yeah, that's crazy. Unreal. You know, that played at the Martin Beck, which is now the Al Hirschfeld where Kinky Boots is. So like, you know, sometimes I'm just going to work. I'm like, all right, I'm going to sit here. I'm going to take notes, blah, blah's crazy. Unreal. You know, that played at the Martin Beck, which is now the Al Hirschfeld where Kinky Boots is. So like, you know, sometimes I'm just going to work. I'm like, all right, I'm going to sit here. I'm going to take notes, blah, blah, blah.

But then sometimes I sit there and go, oh my God, I am at this theater that I used to. I used to watch that stage on the daily. Like I go into the dressing room to say hey to somebody. I'm like, this was Bernadette Peters dressing room in 1987. Wow. When she had that hair, you know, I, when I sometimes I'm able to take a step back and go like, it's,

it makes that like, it like makes no sense to the adolescent me because it's like, I wanted it so badly. And now there's a part of me that can take it for granted, which is unbelievable. It becomes work. Yeah. You're just like,

I'm just doing my thing. Not that it's like bad, but just like, Oh yeah, I'm just going to the stage door instead of like you know what that's awesome that's really cool like and and to never lose that sense of wonder is something i i work to remind myself is important that's good it's actually rule of number rule of culture number 12 as leanne walmart once said never lose that sense of wonder.

I think that is such a good exercise in just perspective, probably. It's just like, yeah, you're fucking working at that fucking theater. I don't know. Well, hold on one second. Okay, well, let's talk about the movie musical again. What do you want to talk about?

No, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Can I just say again, Keala Settle performed on the Oscars. I cried. She got her moments. She was amazing. She was amazing.

She got a camera circling the stage in that quiet part of the bridge moment. Yeah, she was amazing. She was bringing it home. Well, and then even you have someone

like Idina Menzel who is like a huge Broadway star but like America didn't know until until the wickedly talented Adele Dazeem moment. adele dazeem god bless yeah i don't you know what i think people don't talk enough about that moment is the way he says

wickedly talented that to me is almost more mind-blowing than adele dazeem i just it's just like what are you doing man i love it i will never forget that for the rest of my life. Why would you? Never gets old. No, it's always a real scream. Yeah. But, but like, that's something where it's just like,

she was already like headline and how many Broadway shows and super famous. And right. She was a part of three cultural moments. Yeah. Yeah. But then she like does this thing. People like, Oh,

that's Elsa. And it's like, she's a different level, you know? She is. She's amazing. We say she's the Rihanna of the suburbs. Oh my God. She's the minivan Rihanna.

That's actually rule of culture number 68. Idina Menzel is the minivan Rihanna. I am dead. She is. Moms everywhere are like, I don't care for Rihanna. You know who I like? Idina Menzel that's like

the it's just so perfect and I love it oh that's good she probably could have some more hits we can aspire to career success

that Idina Menzel has please are you kidding come on I mean who thought she was gonna be part of three cultural phenomenons

if you don't think it'll be four and five and six honey I don't think so honey step out of the way when she did you see If Then yes I did you did cultural phenomenons. If you don't think it'll be four and five and six, honey, I don't think so, honey. Yeah. Out of the way. Yeah.

When she, did you see if then? Yes, I did. You did. Oh yeah. It was, it was not my favorite moment.

Yeah. Decidedly not, not the favorite moment. However, I will say that moment when the curtain rises and she just goes, it's me. I was like, Oh fuck you.

Like it was just, she's such a star. Of course. You can be like, it's me. Yeah. She's a star of course you can be like it's me yeah she she's a star that's the thing is it's like that show was a little tough and her it's so funny that her top note was just like that was like she didn't go higher than that like they the score was very written like to her current skills eight shows a week is brutal it's crazy and i have to tell you,

it wasn't like it wasn't challenging. You know what? When I saw it, she sounded fierce. She did. She sounded fierce. And she can also act her ass off. Oh, yeah. And people forget that.

People forget that Idina Menzel is a real musical theater actress. And it wasn't no mistake that Elphaba became iconic. You know what I mean? She got a Tony for that. She certainly did. And, you know, it's just not a mistake. Idina Menzel, I think is someone that people like take for granted or make a lot of jokes

about exclusively. Um. People like you. Well, I mean, like I'm part of this community and we all make like, what you don't? I've never made a joke at Idina Menzel's expense. You make it your career. Bowen Yang goes on stage and it's Idina Menzel you make it your career Bowen Yang goes on stage and it's Idina Menzel cracks

from the moment go that's whenever I've seen you do stand-up that's been the bulk of your material it's been the bulk of my material Idina Menzel

it's Idina Menzel cracks I punch down at Idina Menzel he punches down at Idina I gotta say I watched Frozen again

this weekend after not seeing it since the theater oh my god now we're gonna get shade no no no because I've been

known to shit on Frozen. You have been known to do that. I enjoyed it much more this second time, and Idina is really good at voice acting. She's extremely talented. Have you heard or seen anything of Frozen the musical? I saw it in Colorado, darling. Oh, right, that was when I was there.

And how was it? It's fun. I think it's hard to take a short film and adapt it for the big stage, you know. And add numbers. It definitely was the kind of thing where I was feeling like, you know, I would enjoy this more if I were younger, you know. But everyone's doing great work and it looks beautiful and there's some fierce singing. Yeah, I heard that Let It Go is quite the moment. Yeah, well, I mean, it's Casey Levy.

So, I mean, talk about an instrument oh my god like i've seen i saw her in hair and in first daughter suite at the public and other stuff i'm forgetting but like that is one of those voices that it's just like like you could bathe in it so yeah i would i would definitely bathe in amy joe's voice oh darling i've taken baths in it of course i've taken baths in it. Of course. I've taken baths in it, to be honest. Just a moonlight swim. Just a moonlight swim. Just a moonlight swim

in the vocals. We have to talk to Amy Jo about her Disney trip because you just went on a Disney trip recently. Yes, and also, my favorite thing about it is that you felt yourself

getting under the weather but soldiered through. I sure did. Oh, honey, I came home and three days later got the flu. I am only now like recently over it. Damn.

But, you know, it's because I was like, I'm not going to go back to the hotel. We're going to Epcot. Yeah, no, that's actually rule of culture number 19. You're going to Epcot. Don't go to the hotel. Okay, well, we're so sorry to hear that you weren't feeling well. Oh, well, it's all behind me now. Thank God. All right, so highlights of the hotel. Okay. Well, we're so sorry to hear that you weren't feeling well. Oh, well, it's all behind me now.

Thank God. All right. So highlights of the trip. Well, we were talking a bit beforehand. So it was my first time going when Pandora was open. Oh, yes. And I have a friend who's actually one of my dressers on Mermaid, one of the three people that it took to get me in and out of the costume.

No kidding. So funny. And she, shortly after Mermaid, relocated down to Disney. She was working there. And so then I saw her briefly the last time I was there. And I was like, hey, I'm going to be around.

Are you still working there? She's like, oh no, I work at Pandora now. And we had only been able to get a fast pass for the River Ride. I remember going messaging you. Yes. And like, is this like

flight of the Avatar situation? Is this going to be worth waiting for six hours? You're like, well, yes, no and blah, blah, blah. I gave you a very nebulous answer. No, no, no. But it was useful because we're also like, I was there with my parents and a friend. Right.

And none of us are like super hardcore parkers. You know what I mean? Right. We weren't like, I must complete this or I will. We were like, it'd be great to go. Yeah. If we're going to have to wait three hours, we are not doing it. Right.

You know, there are other things we would rather do with our time. Yes. So I messaged her and she was like, well, let me know when it gets closer because I work a couple of those rides. So maybe I can work something kind of depending on how things work out. So I'm messaging her on Instagram and the number I have to text her is an old number so I can't get through to her. We go on the river ride, which I thought was beautiful. Beautiful. I was like, I love a let me just sit down and look at shit okay so it's beautiful but it's also like

it's boring but if you know it's not boring it's serene but the animatronic at the end is pretty amazing it's really cool it's very cool and it's just i just sit in there like i'm just enjoying looking at like they had those leaves where the bioluminescent and then you're seeing like the frogs on the other side of it which you know is just a computer screen but i'm like it looks so cool like i loved that so we're like leaving that and i'm like well i haven't seen my friend mamey and i was like well i guess you know she she's working so she probably can't get back to me so we're like we're literally walking out of the ride like trying to get out and she comes walking this way

and i'm like so you know it was great to see her because she's adorable and and i love her and then she was like oh you guys just wrote this let's get you over to the avatar so she marches us right up to the fast pass line it's like can you work some magic for these folks here today and they're like sure can so we went straight to fast pass and we were all like a giddy so it's great and then it was so fun it was incredible it's amazing beautiful right it's a stunner it's a stunner we So it was great. And then it was so fun. It was incredible. It's a beautiful ride. It's a stunner. It's a stunner.

It's crazy. We loved it. So it turned out to be like one of those like a truly magical Disney moment. It was great. And then we went. Make it happen. So, you know, we did a bunch of that stuff and we went to Universal. And so I hadn't been to Harry Potter World before.

Oh. And what did you like? And again, me liking a serene ride. My favorite part was the hogwarts express going back and forth oh it's beautiful that's very nice great i just like to ride trains anyway but it's so cute and it's all well done and like i just thought it was the attention to detail was incredible that's really what fuels me i'm like i like this attention to i just want to go in the shops to look and see what they have up on the second level yeah yeah it's really i mean the best part of of diagon alley and of hogsmeade is it it is just so

transportive it's like you walk in and it's literally it's literally the shot from the film yeah that's what's so crazy is that they were able to accomplish that like whatever it is like a trick of the eye especially when you round the corner and you see Hogwarts for the first time it is the iconic picture of but it's real and they make it look so much bigger than it is with that kind of like landscape that a few years ago we went I was with my family and and Aaron and uh Jeff my my now husband uh in London and we went to the studio tour. The set tour, yes. Which we were all kind of like, eh, whatever, this will be fine.

And I had forgotten, like, no, movie magic is awesome. And they saved so much stuff because they didn't know what they'd be using from film to film because the books weren't done. And they have just so much of the practical stuff there.

So you go and there's the costumes everywhere. Basically, they do like a little intro video and then you go into the Great Hall and you're there for like 10 minutes and then you have as long as you want to walk through the rest of the exhibit so you can be there for hours they have like a little audio guide and then at the end the last big thing is the model of hogwarts which i i was like oh this will be cool like jeff walked in ahead of me i was like looking at some sketches he comes he's like you gotta come in you gotta go okay and i walked I started crying like it's just the talk about attention to detail because it's so small and that's the kind of stuff that you like see on a DVD special

features type thing like we were obsessed with Lord of the Rings in high school and not college I guess I was in college I was in high school but like we like here's a culture moment erin and i together saw lord of the rings in theaters uh fellowship of the rings eight times oh my god what is that over almost 30 hours about 24 hours of your life but like we saw it like over christmas break and then we also went over the spring break because it was still in theaters but we were just like our whole group of friends was like so nerdy we're like well i gotta go back i gotta see those horses and I gotta see those water horses, you know? And then,

you know, we saw the others a few times in theaters too, but not eight, I will say, but the others, like, hold on. I thought you meant the others with Nicole Kidman.

No, I'm sorry. Common misconception there. The hours in theaters, but not eight times no Toni Collette's presence notwithstanding I love that Toni Collette you love Toni Collette you know that puts you in the company

of John Early John Early has great taste he does have fantastic taste okay I do love a good Toni Collette too oh who doesn't so in high school I was obsessed with the LaCusa wild party. I got into it because she was Queenie. And I was like, oh my gosh.

Cause I also loved Alan Cumming. Like I loved that Emma with Gwyneth Paltrow and all of them. Oh wow. I watched that came out like right at the appropriate time for me to be like, Oh, Jane Austen. 96, I think. That sounds about right yeah yeah you know i remember seeing it in theaters and being like this is highly enjoyable and who's

this girl yeah right and then like anything that she was in i was like i'm on board and so then listening to that i was so into it and still it's like that fits my voice so well and i love lacusa like all of lacusa i just want to sing all time, which is hard because he's not an easy composer to bring into an audition room. So I have to do it just for my own pleasure. Right. Is Emma what Clueless is based on? Okay, yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Really does open a lot of doors to culture, I would say. I think Clueless predates the Gwyneth Paltrow Emma. That's probably true. You know, Jane Austen was out of fashion for a while. Yeah, yeah. And now, Jane Austen was out of fashion for a while. Yeah. Now, of course, she is everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't turn around without seeing Jane Austen.

She's like, I may be dead, but I'm alive through my work, bitches. What if she became huge? What do you mean, Jane Austen? Yeah. I feel like she's a perennial. What if for some reason Jane Austen became as big as Selena Gomez? I feel like if they mix. Selena Gomez? Like posthumously, Jane Austen all of a sudden set the world on fire.

In my circles, Jane Austen's much bigger than Selena Gomez. Thank you. You're just hanging out with different folk. That's actually rule of culture number 101. In our circles, Jane Austen's much bigger than Selena Gomez. You're just hanging out with different folks. That's actually rule of culture number 101. In our circles, Jane Austen is much bigger than Selena Gomez. If they make the right movie, if they make the right adaptation, then like, yeah. I want to see a modern, is there a modern day Pride and Prej?

What's her face? Can I gag for a second, please? I just saw the Cruel Intentions musical because our friend Amanda Sheckman is the swing for it and we saw her go on as Sarah Michelle Gellar's part. It was really fun. I haven't even seen the movie. Oh, you haven't seen the movie?

I haven't seen the movie either. The movie is naughty. In the 90s, I was seeing some things, but mostly I was just watching West Side Story. So I missed a lot of stuff. Good for you. Well this is like a 90s jukebox musical like they throw in

it's like very one of those like they have like all the hits from the 90s like the first song that Amanda sings is Cause I'm the only one who walk across the fire for you I don't even know what that is Oh Melissa Etheridge. I've heard of her This would be a good cultural moment for you to pick up

on Melissa Etheridge. You know what the her. This would be a good cultural moment for you to pick up on Melissa Etheridge. You know what, the amount I listen very deeply to what I listen to, but I don't listen widely. So there's just a lot. I'm the same way. That's better. I cast too wide of a net and then nothing sticks. I just get so overwhelmed when I think of what I don't

knew. No, that's fair. I get off book on a very small number of things yes yes like i can do sometimes for you which is many lyrics which is many lyrics yes but i'm like ah i know a couple mariah carey songs sure there you go and she's great but i just don't know you connect to what you connect to that's so true um is Sondheim number one for you um probably most formative I would say I mean as as far as the composer that has my most number of favorite musicals probably sure like because like there's into the woods Sweeney Todd obviously Sweeney is

my favorite I just think is perfect I love a little night music I can do that from this moment right now till the moment I literally die on stage mid-show because there's like parts for me from now until yeah yeah yeah if i could die on cue i think that would be like i would have achieved some kind of zen state like that would be all i could wish for is to like let the playing card gracefully fall off my hand and be like i'm out you know how black swan amy it was perfect yes it was perfect i did it then they just wheel me off stage and i wouldn't come on for curtain call they'd be like oh i hope she's okay no you saw her die on stage did you see that little night music with um miss zeta jitchette. Yeah. Absolutely. Did you enjoy?

I did. I mean, like, I thought it was very lush. And Aaron Lazar. If we want to talk about vocals, for days. I also think he's an incredible performer. So he played Carl Magnus, who's the one who sings in Praise of Women. So I saw it with Aaron and my parents. And like, he goes to the point, the woman's mine.

And we just turn to each other and like roll our eyes. We're like, fuck this guy. He's in the way that like I want to listen to it all the time. We also saw him because I saw Light in the Piazza a few times. I saw Matthew Morrison a couple times and then Aaron Lazar took over and I'm like, I'm really interested to see how someone does after Matthew Morrison because I thought Matthew Morrison was very charming and tender and beautiful. And that's what he do. And then Aaron Lazar comes in because he also has a much more like operatic sound than Matthew Morrison. I was like, who are you i think he's splendid

he is great i saw him in the last ship he's one of those people that i'd be like i'll go see a show because of that him as far as like male vocalists there's him and then um paul nolan who uh was was in um bright star he was the lead of bright star with carmen cusack and there's an do you guys know Carmen Cusack? I know Carmen Cusack because back in the day when I used to go to the wormhole of Defying Gravity performances, hers was a standout. She has done Elphaba.

She has, I think, done Christine in Phantom. Wow. I can't even remember. But it's just stuff you're like, one person shouldn't be able to do all of that. But she can and effortlessly. And then just the two of them and bryce jekylls are also such incredible actors i was just like oh holly because i i love going to musicals but i do feel often the singing is is more prioritized than the acting absolutely two unbelievable vocalists like people

who you're like i i can't believe your technique and the way it marries with your your intention and and the style but who are also such deep precise incredible actors i was just like i couldn't believe what i was seeing yeah um but i also saw paul nolan in once when i went to go see it who's playing the guy and and just like his his uh his instrument is unbelievable if you can if you ever get a chance to see him perform, I don't know the guy. I just think he's great. Same with Aaron Lazar. I'm like, I will talk all day about people I think are talented, you know?

I was so excited when I was going to see Wicked because I was going to see Annalie Ashford, who did go on, who's a true jam as Glinda. And I was going to see Stephanie J. Block. And Stephanie J. used her understudy. Well, it's, you know,

that show. Oh no, that's not, she marked defying gravity. Wow. With wicked. There's like the standbys go on a lot because it is one of those shows that you probably shouldn't be singing eight shows a week.

It's a lot. It's just, it's very vocally rigorous yeah it's it's one of those well i did my first i don't think so honey on wicked you did oh my gosh so like it's not one of the shows i feel called to do right um but it is one of those that i've i've thought like man that would be a great technical exercise i'm like can i get my voice in shape to do that shit you know it's one of those i'm like i mean maybe i could but i'd rather do it for another show because there are people who that is their story they long to tell and i say good bless go do it yeah you know although you

would slay as both alphaba and as madame morrible or even glinda i was gonna say i would want to do madame morrible i would want to do i think i could say the gig madame morrible came, Glinda, God. Wicked came out midway through my college experience. And so, I didn't belt at that point in my life. Like I just didn't know how. I was like this legit soprano who was like, oh, maybe I have an alto as well.

And I just didn't know how to bring that up. But like to bring it up through the chest, I'm talking technical terms. But I just remember a friend of mine being like, there's this new show called wicked there's a great part for you let me play you and he starts playing my dear my dear and i was like i know you're not trying to be mean but fuck you like all i do is play old women already and i was like my dear but i think madame morrible as a role has aged very well. Oh, 20 years we have

waited. I think the part where she's like, um, as press secretary. I want to do that. Wow, that's you. You should do that, Bowen. I want to be Madame Morrible. You should email them. I'll email. I'll send an email. Well, Amy Jo knows people. Yeah.

She's up in the Hirschfeld. She's up in the Hirschfeld. Title of ep, she's up in the Hirschfeld she's up in the Hirschfeld title of ep she's up in the Hirschfeld that's it wow oh my god amazing and I think

I think we've now arrived not at our finale song no but at the coup de grace

our 11 o'clock number if you will I will of this episode of Las Cotterizas which is I don't Think So, Honey. Now, Bowen, explain to the kids listening at home who may not know what I Don't Think So, Honey is all about.

I Don't Think So, Honey is a one-minute unit of time in which you deliver an oral missive against something that is just getting your goat. So we all know. We all know the drill. We all know the drill. We all know the drill. We have one minute. All right, so I think I will go first. You will go first? Which has kind of become canon.

No, no, no. I think if you go back and crunch the numbers, it's a pretty balanced frequency. But all right. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey credit card minimums. Can I tell you something?

Don't be talking all the zeitgeist about Bitcoin. We haven't, like, even figured out our money situation now, okay? Listen, I want no credit card minimums. No one carries cash. There's none of it. I have my credit card and my debit card, and I need to be able to use

it. If you are telling me that a credit card minimum is $8, and I come to you with $5 of stuff, and you say, no, go get something, just know I'm not passionately shopping at your store anymore. You think I'm buying this extra kombucha, and now I have two. There's no joy there. You haven't given me a joyous experience, and that is part of your job as a shopkeep. I don't think so, honey. 15 seconds. These shopkeeps who aren't putting time into creating a good atmosphere by reinforcing or enforcing the rule that is a credit card minimum.

Honey, I don't carry cash. I don't think it's a good idea to carry cash in the streets. I have money. Let me use it. I don't think so, honey. Credit card minimums. And that's one minute. Wow.

I passionately agree with you. There should not. Credit card minimums. And that's one minute. Wow. I passionately agree with you. There should not be credit card minimums. And guess what? It's not like the machine won't work. Well, it's about, they changed the law. What? On like the percentage. Look at me talking about stuff I only barely know about.

That's us this whole show. Used to it was the same percentage yeah right used to it was the same percentage i think no matter what you bought okay so they took certain percentages of like you're buying a dollar worth of something and they're taking like you know however many cents but it's all all at the same percentage and so that was more just like an irritating thing because people just didn't want to run the credit card now at least in new york city i i don't know how it works elsewhere but now they charge you more if it's under a certain amount i so certain places like starbucks where they're doing a lot of business under a certain amount doesn't matter because

the volume will cancel it out but like a bodega isn't necessarily gonna so it i don't know when that changed it was in the last few years or so and i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure that that's accurate well i only vaguely understand but i still don't know it's still irritating yeah i don't like it's like yeah if i have cash it's like a miracle yeah right can i venmo this bodega yeah that'd be great and then you go and they say well the atm's over there and you go over there and it's like a three dollar charge i have definitely i mean this doesn't happen anymore with the chip but i've definitely had with like a bodega atm had one of those they can like put i found out from my bank after my credit card number got stolen what do you have like someone can put in

a little like insert into the machine so you run it and it takes an imprint of it because i was like how did they get my number i didn't lose my card and the bank was like well did you ever use like a bubba i was like yes they're like okay my number? I didn't lose my card. And the banker's like, well, did you ever use like a blah, blah, blah? I was like, yes. They're like, okay, well, what the scam is. And like walked me through like how someone can get your number. I don't understand how it works, but like that's the gig. Well, I'm happy that everyone knows that.

And I will say one thing before we move on, which is in relation to that, if you ever get a call from a number that you don't recognize and they ask you is this so and so never say yes always say who's calling or this is he or she or whatever um because they can record you saying yes and use that to confirm purchases this is just why i don't ever answer the phone. There you go. Don't ever answer the phone. Text me. Email me. Text and email Amy Jo. Also, I would pay, I would green light a series of Amy Jo Jackson just with her elocution, just explain

anything. And I would EP. I'm gonna EP. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You green light, I'll EP. Thank you. Okay. Bowen's big in the studio system. I've heard that. I've heard that. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you. Bowen's big in the studio system. I've heard that. Yes, yes, yes. As we all know.

And speaking of Bowen, now is his I Don't Think So Honey. And Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey on this, the Amy Jo Jackson episode of Las Culturistas, which will be entitled She's Up in the Hirschfeld. His time begins now.

I Don't Think So Honey, Airbnb's upstate bitch I was trying to find A decent well priced Airbnb For my spur of the moment trip To upstate New York Specifically Woodstock New York Slash Stanfordshire I believe

But anyway we ended up Staying at this Decrepit It might as well have been condemned, honey, this terrible cottage that was filled with, you know, horrible little garage sale tchotchkes. The bed was barely functional, honey. And I have to say,

burn every wooden structure upstate and rebuild with iron, honey. Build glass Buildings or iron buildings I can't stand these wooden Buildings they rot They're horrible and I I don't think so honey

Going upstate having a great time And then going to some Dusty disgusting dank Little room to sleep and to ruin the whole experience And that's one minute it really just ruined the whole upstate experience i'm so sorry that that happened because you want a wooden building to be folksy not like termite yeah exactly unusable i needed a folksy you know what bespoke is that the right word but i just wanted a nice little you wanted

a rustic experience. Thank you. Rustic is what I was looking for. Rustic is the word he was looking for, not bespoke. This is the second time I, Matthew, have corrected Bowen on his grammatical and sayings. I would remind the audience that Matt said the word what was it instead of spontaneous instead of superstitious that's fine I think that's fine okay alright so this is

Amy Jo Jackson's I Don't Think So Honey and then after Amy Jo Jackson's I Don't Think So Honey we are going to debut a new segment before the final number oh sure Amy Jo Jackson your I Don't Think So Honey time begins now I Don't Think So Honey time begins now. I Don't Think So Honey, people who find out how old I am and then tell me they're shocked

because I look so much younger than that and are thinking I should take it as some kind of compliment. No, I Don't Think So Honey for a couple of reasons. One, you've reminded me of a very painful professional reality, which is I don't look old enough for the parts I should be playing. So I just rubbed salt in the wound, baby. So thanks a lot. But more importantly, I don't

think so, honey. This fetishization of youth. This idea that we're supposed to be flattered to be told we look like infants. I don't think so, honey. Yes, do I take care of my skin? Of course. I don't want skin cancer slash I would love to look like Helen Mirren when I am her age. But that is to say, I just

want to look stunning. I don't want to look 20 fucking 2. I have experience. I have skill. I have wisdom. I have more self-confidence and more assuredness because I am a woman who is 34 who will be 35 in June. I'm not 26. I was a mess at 26.

Who wants to be 26? It was fine. It's better now. So fuck you for thinking that that should be the biggest compliment I could receive. I don't think so, honey. That is one minute. Oh, my goodness. Stunning.

And tersely on time. That is tersely on time. I don't know. That's a stunner, but I don't think so, honey. That was amazing. And you know what? It was literally exactly one minute long. Wow.

Not a verb over. Okay, Amy, would you accept this as a compliment? Your skin, when I walked in the room, looked radiant and still looks radiant. What you can say instead is something like, your skin looks amazing. Or you have such great skin. And I do have people who tell me that. Or you are gorgeous. Yeah.

Here's the thing. You don't know what is going on with a particular person. So even to like, we say a lot of stuff that's like oh my god you like have you lost weight you look great but like for instance i have a very dear friend who went through a terrible illness in the last couple years and she's much better now but she was like it was scary yeah really scary and for a while there like she was in and out of the hospital but was trying to keep it on the down low so that like it't affect work. So a lot of people didn't know about it. But she got very thin

and was already like a thin person to begin with. And apparently people were coming up to her and being just like, oh my God, you look amazing. What's your secret? She's like, I don't know, almost death. But she can't say that. So it's just like, you just don't know.

But there are ways to say the spirit of what you're trying to say. Yes. Without it being so loaded. Well, and also like, I think we're all taught to take like you look young as a compliment you know what i hate too is when i get carded when i can tell that they are trying to flirt with me or flatter me it's different when like say you're in boston or like

a university i was just working in syracuse that's a university town they card everybody that makes sense yeah you have to be super strict because there's a lot of people trying to get in places they shouldn't be sure i have a problem with that i i have a problem with when it's someone who's clearly trying to like flatter me i'm like that doesn't flatter me because i do not look like i'm 20 yeah i don't want to look like that i have a round face when i buzz my hair it makes more sense because that's more of an extreme choice and my eyes look bigger but even then i was like i don't actually you don't actually think i'm 20 but you think that that's going to flatter me because we're all socially told we're supposed to look like we're in our mid-20s at most. And that we have no value as we get older.

I just think that's such bullshit. It pisses me off. It like makes me irate in those moments. I'm like, this is a stranger. I don't need to give them this much. I don't need to engage with them. But it's hard. Yeah, no, it's tough.

Yeah, and quote Amy Jo Jackson, who needs to be 26? Who wants to be 26? No, we're messes. No. And we're 20. I'm 28 now. I'm 27.

26 sucked. And yeah, we're just... There's a lot going on. Mercury's in retrograde. Mercury's in retrograde right now, and it's really hard. So we are about to debut a new segment and you are the first guest

yes so this is called and tell me if you like this name oh go go go go go voice memo oh you bitch oh that's fun so we're gonna have

some fan favorites some people we've had on the show some people send in some voice memos and we're gonna hear what they have to say and we're all gonna discuss their thoughts and opinions our voice memo you bitch is today from joel kim booster friend of the show culture judge iconic young man it's clocking in at five minutes so we'll see we'll see let's's hear. I have not heard this yet. One second.

Hello, Los Culturistas. It's me, Jolkin Booster. Some of you might remember me as the very first return guest that Los Culturistas has ever seen. That's right. It was me. It was not Pat Regan, despite what he might say. Pat, if it didn't air, it didn't happen.

That's like one of the first rules of podcasting that they wrote down when they started podcasting, the first podcast. Anyways, I'm here once again, a first as the very first voice memo correspondent. I'm here to talk about my favorite show, RuPaul's Drag Race. Some of you also might know this about me, but I did once recap RuPaul's Drag Race for Vulture, New York Magazine's online entertainment blog. And I went back to do that again this past year for All Stars 3,

and they said that someone had taken the job from me, that two younger, less funny people had approached them, and spread vicious lies about me, and stolen the job right out from under me and I was very dismayed to find out that those people were actually my two close friends, Matt Rogers

and Bowen Yang. So it was the least that they could do to let me record this message to talk about some thoughts I had about the show. So let's get into it. I just want to talk about my top four and those people are Monet X Change from new york i love

monet i think she's so funny and so um beautiful on the show i think she's so talented i was not excited about monet going into the seasons i don't know why i think it was partially because i think five new york queens is just so many like new New York in drag race is sort of like Russia and figure skating in that like they should only allow to compete in the Olympics. You know? Earth shattering. They only allow two Russian girls because there are like seven Russian girls that are the best in the world that are so much better than anybody else any other country could send. And it's just like it's a boring watch. And that's sort of how I feel about them.

Like give us more queens queens from Cincinnati, Ohio. That's what I'm sure. I say that every year. I was blessing Claire, the first Indiana queen we've seen. Give us more flyover queens. That's what I want to see in future seasons because they're kind of bad, and sometimes that makes for a good TV.

Magnolia Crawford. Magnolia! She didn't have her moment. I did not love her sponge dress look, but I still think she should be in the top three for it. I don't know why. That doesn't make any sense. That's a contradiction. But guess what? I am allowed

to contradict myself, and honestly, I am allowed to take anything I say back from these voice memos because I am a gay person living in Trump's America. And that is a right that is still afforded to me. It has not been taken away from me yet. So I reserve the right to just reverse myself several times within the span of this voice memo. My number two pick is Miss Cracker, also from New York.

I think she is so funny and beautiful and has the uh an incredible pedigree to do well in the show she's bob's drag daughter um and i love that she's giving us like shades of sasha velour that headiness that creativeness but she's fun to watch it's different from sasha listen i think sasha gave us one of the top 10 gags of the show's history but she was not fun tv and and so i would love to see more fun from Miss Cracker. I love that she said her brand was stupid. Like, give us more stupid, you stupid bitch. You know, like, don't give us a mime act on the runway and, like, some high concept shit.

Like, be funny. I don't want to see some sad widow with your downturned eyebrows. I love that. On the runway. I don't know. I thought the look was a gag though. I thought she should have won. Put her at the top.

My number three is Monique Hart. Yes, same, Joel. I think she's so beautiful. I think she was robbed from the top three. Yeah, absolutely. Specifically robbed by Yuha, which I know that this is going to sound unfair, but Bowen, as a Chinese person,

you are responsible for everything that she says and does on the show. Absolutely. I actually agree with you. It's problematic she does. It's sort of by extension your fault. I agree with that. So keep that in mind. Collect your people. I know that might not sound fair,

but that is how the world works. We've got about another minute. That is how the world works. Everybody's watching. Confirmed. I hope that she does better for your sake. Okay. All right. I was almost going to pick Mayhem for this spot,. I hope that she does better for your sake. Okay, all right. I was almost going to pick Mayhem for this spot,

but I think that Mayhem, I love her. I think she's beautiful, and I want her to do well. But anybody who cries that much on reality television is not primed. Oh, come on. It's a lot of crying. I'm sorry. She's vulnerable. They are going to set her up so, so high only to knock her down.

We are going to see her cry many, many more times this season. I can feel it. My number four spot, Matt, you have already given me shade for this online. It's Asia O'Hara. I think she's beautiful. I think she's one of the fishiest queens this season. I think that beat, look at that

fucking face and tell me that beat is legendary. I think she comes from a prestigious pageant past, which, you know, like Coco, like Alyssa, like Kennedy Davenport, I think she's going to do well on the show. Okay, so show that talent on the show. She can slay a lip sync.

I think she's beautiful. And Matt, for you to throw shade at me for picking her, just makes you a dumb white bitch. You are the dumbest person I think I've ever met. And I wear both those things like a pageant on our conversation online about Asia O'Hara and you will feel ashamed because she will be in the top

and you will feel so stupid and if she does go home next week I again reserve the right to say that she was never in my top four I never said that once again I will deny deny deny and you will never um you'll never hear me say that i am wrong because um when talking about this show you

can't ever really be wrong because what is this show there are no rules anyways those are my thoughts i love you both goodbye okay well that's our first voice mem oh Oh, you bitch. And I think he said a lot of groundbreaking things. I don't think Asia belongs in the top four unless she really turns it up. Are you watching this season? Are you kidding? Come on, yeah. Yes. Devoted fan.

What about you? Who are your favorites? I love Monet. Yeah, Monet's great. Yeah, Monique Hart I'm also really into. Killer. I think The Queens was my favorite. Yes, absolutely.

The ooh, ah, ah sensation. I just gagged for ah sensation I just like gagged for her I was like adorable so funny and then and then

Cracker's like back and forth with the judges I was like we're gonna get professional level I've been following most of them

on Instagram for ages anyway because that's like half of what I follow on Instagram and drag queens yeah same but I haven't

seen her perform live and I was like, well, we're going to get some, some good stuff out of, out of this queen. Oh, she's great life.

She's got some great old, great old mixes. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. I don't think that he's wrong. That Asia is, I don't think Asia will go home soon. I just don't think she's top four.

Sure. Um, well on that, let's listen to Amy Jo's last number. Yes. Now this is going to take us out. Amy Jo. Thank you. Thank you. Literally

so much for being here. Oh, a true like dream delight pleasure to be here. Well, it's our honor to expose your glorious talent and let everyone know again that Amy Jo Jackson is in I Want to Be Your Man

on April 13th at 9.30pm. This is one night only people at green room 42 in new york city and a quick little tip is that tickets are five dollars more at the door so book in advance book in advance we always love to see the the bookings in advance we all love the bookings do your friends a favor if you know you're going by a goddamn ticket yeah buy in advance we're having a heart attack on the day of mind god damn it all right so um briefly intro this next piece so this next piece uh is from a show called the lion which played off broadway a few years ago so my friend ben shawyer uh who i've known we weren't in college

together but we were both in college in boston at the same time so i've known him since i was like 18 and i he's a singer-songwriter and and has written some musicals uh like just a regular book musical type thing as well as like he's played with a band for many years and I like would run into him in the city a lot and I ran into him we were both like rehearsing the same building it's like oh I have this show uh and I missed it in the first go-round and then it got remounted down um on Bleeker Street I was like oh I've got to go now that I can see this and it's um basically the the overall idea is it's him like a coming of age story and also grapples a lot with the death of his father at a young age but he plays like six different guitars he's an incredible guitarist

and he writes all these songs um and it's the show is like an hour 15 maybe and i just like felt all the feelings because it's so funny and so beautiful and then toward the end of the show you find out like this is something I didn't know about him because we weren't close at this point in his life but like he struggled with cancer for a few years and like it was a really dark time so this I mean I was sitting next to

someone who like we had known each other were from like mutual friends but we hadn't met we ended up sitting next to one another the amazing pianist Drew Whatke and we were like oh my gosh it's you blah blah so we're sitting there basically just having met holding hands weeping the whole time because it was so incredible so this song uh in the context of the show is his girlfriend uh he's telling a story of his girlfriend as though it's his girlfriend's perspective so it's kind of a gender-bent moment because he sang it sure but it's itfulness, though it's his girlfriend's perspective. So it's kind of a gender bent moment because he sang it,

but it's meant to be the girlfriend character he talks about. You're bending the gender bend. Always. Well, let's listen. Yes, and thank you guys so much for listening. This is Amy Jo Jackson. Enjoy, and of course with Henry Kapurski

sounding lovely as well. Here we go. I'm going to the invisible cities where the pace is different than the one we know. I'm bringing only one not so big suitcase and I might ask you to send some things I need a little time To explore the world alone Make some friends who've never met you Speak a language you don't know Do some dances unfamiliar And some clothes you'll never see

I might lose a little you there But in your place I'll find a bit more me I met a puppy, his name is Arturo And he rests his pointy face on my shoulder When I'm lying in bed Here in an invisible city. I met a woman and her name is Nati and she lets me share her bed with her, me and Arturo.

I need a little time to explore the world alone. Eat the food I've never tasted. Drink the wine I've never known. Feel the kisses of a lover. Someone sweet and dark and new. I might lose a little me there. But in my place I'll find a bit more you and if you ask through all these months of exploration have you found the thing you're looking for at last I would explain when I arrive in each new city

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