Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Sister Support!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: January 27, 2021

Sisters provide each other with support in this episode of Las Culturistas that explores so much and yet so little. The ladies discuss watching themselves on camera after Matt's recent good news. Bowen questions whether or not it is ethical to wave your finger and scream "yaz" at a woman who is a billionaire from arms deals on Bling Empire. Matt, for some reason, watched Love Life and actually really enjoyed it! And... the culture of the moment Promising Young Woman gets discussed in such detail that we have to warn you repeatedly that there are SPOILERS (17:10 to 27:22 will discuss and spoil Promising Young Woman, so watch it first! Or skip that section!) Readers, the movie has us thinking! Also, Oscar and awards season at large, Gaga's anthem (with a special close-read of the performance by Hot Engineer Doug), Matt and Bowen reveal what they're listening to lately, opinionssssss on the Sex and the City reboot, Cookie Monster, Disneyland making changs to their fiully racist attractions and some good olf fashioned Wendy Williams appreciation. BABY YOU'RE A FIIIIIIIIIIREWOOOOORK! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I have to give my congratulations. Oh, come on. To my, to my vipress. My actress. Vipress. My bookress. Come on. I'm so happy by now you'll all heard the news.

Matt is in the Showtime pilot written by Vanessa Bayer and Jeremy Byler I love this for you it's true I am super excited to be a part of it it is just a pilot but it's very exciting the buzz is reaching a din honey and I mean the show has Sybil Shepard can we

talk about that Sybil Shepard Vanessa Bayer I mean who these people, crazy. We were saying before we got on, like, if I heard about this show, I would be dying to watch it. It's essentially like the Devil Wears Prada at QVC is really the best way I can describe it. I'm in.

And it's so funny. The script's so funny, and I would be dead for this as a viewer, but we were talking before we came on, it's so hard to watch yourself do anything that I'm I hope I'm able to watch it for real and enjoy how good it's going to be and not just be like, am I good in it? Oh my God. I don't think you've ever had an issue with what your intention is on set translating to what you're successfully executing what you set out to do. There's some of us out there, myself included we're like i thought i was doing this but instead on camera and after the

edit this is this is the best take they had it's me going like this it's like it's crazy well no i first of all you always nail literally i got a girl so you were shooting something this week and i got a text from a producer that's a friend that said Bowen just really knows how to nail a take and I was like yes he does Matt Whitaker said that

oh that's very nice because you did a little role on Girls 5 Ever which by the way is going to be such a funny fucking show

on Peacock we have to talk about this it's going to be a great show all the casting has been announced so we can say

it's Sara Bareilles Renee Elise Goldsberry Busy Phillips Phillips, and Paula Pell, which come the fuck on. Yeah. They used to be like a big Spice Girls type, huge pop girl band, and they make a comeback, essentially. It's like a sort of really pasteurized version of the story. Would pasteurized be the right word there? Pasteurized, I think, works, my j be the right pasteurized i think works my gesture queen you did not flop with that usage what did i mean to say when i said pasteurized yeah sure

but anyway you did a little part on it and i literally it's funny that you say you don't think you nail takes because i literally received a text that said he nails takes. I think what you're saying is it is hard to watch yourself because you never, it's just hard. Well, I think like Joe Firestone said this once in an interview and I was just like, oh, she's so right where it's like, it's hard to watch yourself because you see yourself like faking something and it just looks so unnatural that you're like- You see yourself faking something. That's an interesting way to say it. Yeah. And you're just like,

Ooh, I can't do it. I can't do it. You know, you know who else is like this? Never watched a single episode of Grey's Anatomy. Sandra Oh. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard her say that. I get it. And Miss, Miss, Miss Kristen Wig also never watched SNL when she was on,

which I think is remarkable. I kind of get it. And I do think it's hard because you want to at least check in for yourself that you did well. But I can't think of enough times where I was happy seeing myself on camera that I think it's good for me. You know what I mean? Me neither. Me neither. I genuinely don't do it to watch myself. No, that's not the reason. I enjoy acting and performing, but it's not something I it to watch myself. No, that's not the reason. I enjoy acting and performing, but it's

not something I want to consume myself doing at any time. So interesting. Well, Jester, I'm so happy for you. I'm so excited. Thank you, Flop. I really appreciate that. Flop, and you telling me that day, I was like, there's no way this day is going to be bad. I remember you told me on a Saturday

and I was going, I think it was for the Kristen McDewallipa show that you got the call. I think it was. Yeah, I told you that day. We were talking and that was a fun that was a fun volley back of finding out you were going to be TP'd by Dua and Kristen and also me getting to share that news with you. It was a good text.

It was a very good text exchange. I was just, I was going in that morning being like, you know what? There's a chance it gets cut, but- As there always is. And I was kind of white knuckling it for that possibility. But then you telling me that you booked this, I was like, there's no way this day is going to be bad because my friend got this thing that he wanted.

Sister support. It's called sister support. And it's a front runner for title event. Sister support. Sister, I want to support you. What are you? You said you were watching something on Peacock recently, but it's not Saved by the Bell, is it? Is it something new? Okay, so we just did an ad for Peacock. Yes.

And no shade to Peacock, but I streamed something on a different streamer. Yes, platform. And I was very excited that I did. And I enjoyed this more than I thought I would and I have dragged this person before because I usually can't consume their stuff. Anna Kendrick she was really good in Love Life and I really enjoyed Love Life. Okay girl, I don't think

sisters can support on this. I'm not going to get any sisters to support. I don't know. Okay, can I say something? I dragged my ass to watch this because it's been out for months. Why did you watch it in the first place? I'm telling you to watch 90 Day.

I've been watching 90 Day. Okay, you are being an idiot because can I tell you something? So I got so in my head about acting in a show that I said I can't watch another episode of reality show because it's not what I need to be watching and consuming because I literally got scared for a second when I was watching so much reality. episode of reality show because it's not what i need to be watching and consuming because i'm gonna like i i literally got scared for a second when i was so watching so much reality like am i

forgetting what i'm supposed to be doing like when i go to work eventually and i feel like i forgot how to act because i've been watching so much 90 day is it i don't think yeah it makes sense but i don't think you should overload yourself with exemplary stuff. I was just like, I need to watch something where there's acting. So literally was what I thought. And so you chose Love Life. And for some reason, I was just like, I didn't want to watch anything too challenging. And I was like, let's just try Love Life.

Because I read the description for it and it actually appealed to me. It's like every episode is about a different relationship in her 20s that like defined her love life like as a whole in the macro. I ended up really liking it. I don't think it's like perfect, but I will say it was fun to relive my 20s in New York

and it really made me nostalgic for being in my 20s and being in New York. I don't need that right now. Not in the pandemic. I don't want to be reminded of the life that was before. But it didn't make me feel bad. It only made me feel nostalgic in a good way.

You're unwell. You are unwell. You think I have a disease? You think I have a disease? I think you have an unwellness. I think you have disease. I don't know about this. So I guess I...

Listen, there was no point at which I thought I could convince you to watch love life. I'm just saying I did enjoy it. And I did watch 10 episodes of it in a row in one sitting. How long are the episodes? Mama? 33, 34. Sometimes you get a 28 in there.

You're like, I wonder what was cut out of that one. Silent questions in your head. You understand? Yes. That range. I guess they'd call it a half hour. I guess they'd even call it a sitcom.

I guess they'd even call it a sitcom guess they'd even call it a sitcom and that's basically what a half hour is at this point sorry mandalorian you're a sitcom yeah wandavision that's actually not just masquerading as a sitcom she's a sitcom she's a sitcom honey well i'm glad that you see i'm not i've not been in a place to be primed to consume something new i but you did recently love something that i want to talk about did i what are we talking about well first can we talk about something that i did not like and i think have you been getting a lot of requests i don't know i probably know the answer to this um i'm probably getting some skewed um requests like the numbers are probably skewed towards me because people are like you're asian

you should watch bling empire have people told you to watch bling empire of course they have and i did i turned it on i honestly i had just like marathoned 90 day and i was like let's try something else and i turned bling empire on at the end of the night and i was like this is gonna be this is gonna be something i have to start a night with. Yes, that's fair. Because I couldn't, I was like literally falling asleep and I was like, I don't want to do this to this show. I would rather like actually consume and meet the characters straight up.

So let me try it again on a day when I'm fresh. Well, honestly, yes, you should be fresh to like take in these people because to me it's important for everyone to understand that I don't think i can watch the show past episode one because you meet matt you meet the wealth well there's there's one guy who's like the surrogate he's kind of like the creshell like he's like coming into this like thank god the show has a creshell they learned from from their previous work netflix well done well it's

the same producers from uhians, which is fun. But you have this one guy who's this like, it's great Asian himbo representation. He's just such a good looking guy who's a dumbass. I'm picturing him walking into rooms like Chris Shell, like with his shoulders raised, like smiling. That's Chris Shell, oh my God. I miss selling Sunset.

Me too, oh my God. But no, but no, just listen. So, but you watch Bling Empire and then it's just volleying you with these things that are like, I mean, okay. It's basically like, Hey, this guy's my friend.

He's a billionaire because his parents are in the oil and gas industry. And oh my God, we stand that queen, Anna Shay, because you don't want to mess with her because she's a billionaire from oil and gas industry. And Oh my God, we stand that queen, Anna Shay, because, um, you don't want to mess with her because she's a billionaire from selling tanks and, and from arms deals.

Don't mess with her because I guess you'll get killed. Cause you could die. Don't mess with her. Cause you could die, but it's literally like billionaires. This is like the ethical wealth question, right? It's like billionaires shouldn't exist.

We all know this, but it's like, I don't think, I think that also applies to television shows where it's like, I don't want to watch these people enjoy themselves. Well, you'll notice like the aspirational wealth part of reality shows, like it used to be a lot more important than it is. But even, no, but I think there's like a sweet spot where it's like the how real housewives a lot of them beverly hills is like the exception but a lot of them i think work because it's like these women have these women have a net worth of like a median net worth

of like let's say eight hundred thousand dollars let's just say that literally they're they're well like they're comfortable but they will need they understandably would want more, I guess. Even though all personal wealth and individual wealth is- They're still hungry. They're still hungry. They're still hungry, the women. This is the thing though, is that Anna Dresden was pointing this out. She was like, it's these people on Bling Empire can't manufacture conflict because all of their needs are met.

They're billionaires. There's nothing for them to really fight about. can't on bling empire can't manufacture conflict because all of their needs are met they're billionaires what do they like there's nothing for them to really fight about like at least on selling sunset it's like oh it's a workplace thing like this person might sell that property before that person like that's the stakes are already built in right bling empire it's like these rich people being like hey you wore that same cardi necklace that I did at that party. How dare you? It's like, I don't understand this at all. The conflict is literally that small, but to them that big. Yes.

It's like literally in the first episode, it's like, she wore a necklace that I have in my collection. And it's like, wait, what? And then there's one guy who like clearly has bipolar disorder and it's weird. And he like fucking like shouts down his girlfriend in a way that is like not okay.

And like, but every, but then, but people are literally damning me being like, you should stick with it though, because Cain actually becomes a really good friend. I'm like, no,

stop it. This is like, like don't normalize. You can't humanize these people. You cannot. Yeah. I think that that's not gonna that without having seen it, I'll say it doesn't sound like something that can sustain itself because I do believe that in order to create

something that's going to keep people invested over a long period of time, you do need high stakes conflict. Like ultimately in Selling Sunset, like the lead character gets divorced and he's a huge Hollywood star and there's a main antagonist and that's why we're watching and that's why we're going to keep watching yes and it doesn't sound like anything has been presented so far that feels substantial but apparently this Kane person is an icon well no Kane is whatever but people are the icon of the show is this woman Anna who, billionaire from arms deals. Right.

And it's like, yes, she's fierce girl boss. You're right. No way. Yeah, no way. She's like, it's crazy to me. I'm like, you cannot like snap your, like wag your fingers, snap, snap, snap for this person who like- Rich from arms deals.

Is a bad force in the world. Yeah. It is. I mean, that's literally everything. I mean, that's literally everything. I mean, that's, that's, that's actually it's,

it's, it's everything to an extent, but I feel like it's, I feel like you could ethically watch Beverly Hills and be like, Oh, these women, even though they're rich and wealthy, like there's still something interesting crackling there,

but like, well, they didn't acquire their means by like lethal ends. Exactly. Exactly. And it's like, whatever. Or acquire their means by lethal ends. Exactly. And it's like, whatever. Or acquire their ends by lethal means. That's what I meant to say. Okay, girl.

Yes, correct. I just want to make sure that I'm speaking clearly. Speaking of girl boss energy, what I was referencing before that you love. Yes, you were referencing something. Speaking of girl boss energy, promising young woman. Everyone's talking about it. Oh, you were referencing something. Speaking of girl boss energy, Promising Young Woman. Everyone's talking about it. Oh, you're about to drag me. I'm not going to,

literally, I'm not going to drag you, but I did want to talk about the movie. Let's talk about it. Because I'm having an interesting experience with it in terms of how it's being received on a wide scale and by critics organizations and on the internet really,

because the internet is going crazy for this movie and I'm really not surprised. But I think what happened for me with Promising Young Woman is I saw it getting all these screenplay awards by critics organizations and it's now a front runner for the Oscar for best screenplay. And I think I combined that knowledge with the fact that it's Carey Mulligan who I think of as very prestige yes but it's not it's not a prestigey movie well I don't think it in the way that like things usually are but the fact of the matter is it is earning a lot of awards buzz and a lot of attention so I kind of went into it with that and while I think the movie is like it really says something different and it's bold and it's really, I thought the music was incredible. And I thought there's just a lot of promise being shown in it,

not to make a like obvious little joke off the title, but the screenplay at points just doesn't work at all. Like, like there's a couple of moments where it's so convenient and things are happening by such happenstance and just these character moves that we're supposed to accept that just don't work for me. So to see it, see it winning screenplay awards and I can get into it specifically, but I did just want to say that I do think everyone should watch it and I want to say we're going to spoil it and you should not keep listening to this if you want to watch the movie. I just want to say that flat out. Are we going to spoil it?

I think we should. I think we should talk around the plot. I mean, I think I know one specific scene that you're talking about, which is between Alison Brie and Carey Mulligan's character in The Living Room. I think it's important,

in order to talk about why this doesn't work, I don't, I don't, this is what I mean is like, i don't want to be just this person that's saying this movie doesn't work i would be i would rather be able to share why i think the script is lacking um and don't get me wrong i had the time of my life watching a lot of it and i think carrie mulligan's incredible and i really like emerald finnell i think she's an incredible writer and actress. I just thought this screenplay is getting so much official accolades.

It's getting all of these institutional accolades. Which is also not like... I mean, yeah. It signals something, but it also... Who cares about awards? But I'm just kidding. I'm to quote Pat Regan, um,

awards are, awards are silly, but I just want to say before we launch into this discussion and my overarching feeling about this, this movie is that, uh, I see the flaws for what they are. I enjoy it as a piece of entertainment on its,

you know, face, I guess. But then I just, I think what it's saying about gender relations and the way that they're dire right now was very interesting. Absolutely.

And was kind of welded with the entertainment value of the film. Yeah, I think that it's an amazing debut for her. There you go. But okay, poke your holes, honey. All right, so spoiler alert. Hi, everybody. This, all right. So spoiler alert. Hi, everybody. Skip ahead to 27, 22 in this episode.

If you want to listen to the rest of this episode, spoiler free for Promising Young Women, because we are about to spoil. Okay, thanks. Bye. Watching that was the last 10, 15 minutes of it were so shocking. And it was just so incredibly visceral that I had to sit with it for a second

because i loved how bold it was it's it's crazy to me that she had to die but the way that it gets there is we're supposed to believe that alice and brie has kept all of her phones that she's ever had yes and and that you i'm sorry but the because that's true this script is null and void for me when it comes to awards recognition because that is crazy and you don't have the climax or the end of the movie without that and so this needed another pass unfortunately i don't fully disagree i don't fully disagree at all i in fact i'm like pretty much all the way there with you i just think i don't know if there was some intentionality to the way that emerald finnell wrote this grip to be like oh the moral code of this world is so fucked up. And so the sequence of events that lead up to this tragic,

brutal thing are also almost nonsensical because there, there, there's something nonsensical about gender relations to begin with. I can, but I, that's, that's a stretch. I realized that.

And, and people have also pointed out, it's like, yeah, she goes to med school with her best friend where frat parties are like all the rage that's another one that's another one i i see i and i sort of retorted back to someone i was just like well maybe in the world of this movie med school is an undergrad in america maybe maybe that's that's the reality but i I'm just saying like... Well, and I totally agree that it could be that. No, it's not. No, no, no.

It could be. I don't think it is. I just think we could have figured out that there was a video. Greta suggested maybe the lawyer is the one that has the video. Like when she goes to Alfred Molina, who plays the lawyer, like he says, I'm sorry. I was the only person that could have blocked this from happening. And I've been sitting on this.

And that's why I feel guilty. To me, that's like an easy fix. That's neat. Yeah. And it's also another way that it can be a man stepping on them. But so this Alison Brie thing, I just didn't buy. I think Alison Brie had it under contract that she needed to be in at least two scenes. I mean, that's a shame.

Or three. Because I thought the movie worked so much better Or three, three. Because I thought the movie worked so much better with just the one because I thought Alison Brie was so great in that scene. She's great. And I thought that really

the whole cast was great. And I loved so much of the humor. I love the use of music. Like when it opened on that remix of boys and all the khakis were dancing around, I was cackling.

I was like so on board. That first shot of her in the red chair, that was iconic. There was cackling. I was like so on board. That first shot of her in the red chair, that was iconic. There was a lot of really great stuff here. And I do think the fact that it is such a bold choice at the end does say something. I will say there have been a lot of pieces of art like this that have gotten overlooked, such as the show Sweet V vicious from mtv which was created

by jen katin robinson this does owe something to those things like because and also you know we've seen this type of thing before with girl with the dragon tattoo and we've seen um you know destroy you women yes women radicalized or galvanized by things that have happened to friends of theirs or themselves like in in their actions moving forward towards the patriarchy. We've seen this, but I think this is the first time that people are really talking about it, and I think that there is a lot of credit due to her, Emerald Fennell, and I am a huge fan. fan but i just don't know if the best thing for her and this movie is like let's give this particular script an oscar for best original screenplay because it's just not a tight script so then your your issue is not with the movie i mean it is with no no no no it is because because it because the script is not tight but i was gonna say but your your issue is also with the the critical response to it and the awards sort of um the just just just

like it's not commensurate with the quality of the screenplay that the fact that it's getting all this awards recognition to be honest with you yes i think that there is not there's i'm really surprised to see critics make less of the script's obvious flaws because but also not because who wants to be out there being like this movie has problems you know what i mean like i don't i i don't even i want everyone to go see the movie like that's why i'm talking about it this much because it's it's provoking so much conversation i do think what it's saying is so important about how violence against women, like it is truly a virus that everyone is infected with.

Like it's just, and even when a woman is just, you can never come back from violence from men because it's so ever present. It gets buried, it gets forgotten, it gets completely erased. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

I feel like the burning, like them creaming, creaming her body in the end was so shocking and, and violent, but I, but you know, I, there's something maybe you could say is on the nose about it,

but it is just kind of the statement of the whole film, which is that it's like, it is so relatively easy for the patriarchy these two men to burn this corpse of a woman yes to eliminate evidence just to eliminate the history and the record of any violence that's been enacted upon her and they did it without thinking about it you know what i mean that's another thing i actually there's been some comment from people i know that are like some of the performances are all over the board like the men were too big i don't think the men were too big men this this is how some predatory men are like that's that's how they are and they would absolutely the second another man says to them you didn't do anything wrong you're fine we're gonna handle this of course they believe it

because historically they they get away with it so i thought that that was actually a great observation in the movie i thought the way that she depicted man across the board was great and i love so much about this but it just it's it's i have a problem with the fact that like that we're not talking about some of the script flaws and another one i had is that in the scene with christ Mintz-Plasse, she basically says to him, every week I go to a club and I do this, and this is explicitly what I do.

And I'm like, you are overstating so much right now. And I wondered, who is that a note from? Like that made it seem like they need to make it more clear. They didn't. It probably was from Universal or Focus Feud. It was probably, it probably was a studio note. It feels like that which sucks and i mean like people who've been on that side of it like i

haven't but people who've been on that side of it like hate it when i think um with her body being burned i'm like this is the tone because i've heard people say that like tonally it doesn't know what it's all over the place and all this stuff. And I'm like, I think it's all intentional the way that it is like, so maximalist about it maybe, or there's just, it's, it's very overstimulating.

Oh, I, and I love that about it. It feels like it, there, there's some like Tarantino aspect maybe where like it's, it's gratuitous. And yeah,

even with like the Roman numerals, like flash, it felt like Kill Bill. It felt like that same vengeance was driving her. And I feel like the reality of this world is so cartoonish or, or like, I just think, um,

some of it, some of it is intentional the way that it's like, okay, wait, the phone's been sitting there for eight years and she went to that was that was too much for me yeah yeah yeah okay but a sister support sisters yeah no but the thing is like i i would rather we talk about a movie like this than anything else and so i'm so happy it's out there but i i like i i don't know i just i don't think when people are afraid to

criticize something in a constructive way no that that that's good for art i just don't think it is and so if we're afraid to say what's really up with some things in this movie because we want this movie to do well like that's not good for for creators or for artists who are going to have an extremely long career. And she will be around forever because Emerald is brilliant. She's brilliant. But no, I think you're putting something out there that's very good, which is you can want this movie to do well and be recognized. But you can also point out what's happening. You should get a letterboxd girl maybe i should

i don't know i'm just kind of now for some reason lately i'm into watching a lot and it's i almost feel kind of crazy being so hard on that movie because like i did really enjoy watching it and i fucking love that it goes for it and I also love that it's like written by a young woman who has like something to say and I love Carey Mulligan in it and I really want her to do more modern things I know she was so good at that she was so good and her performance is

incredible and I just I'm such a huge fan of hers that there's just like if there's little things that need to be like changed like I just think it's a bummer that they weren't. I feel you. Have you seen Minari yet? No, I can't figure out how to watch it.

How did you watch it? Did you watch Screener? I got a Screener link, but... Okay, I got to look. I'm sure I have a link. I think you have a link somewhere where you can ask around, poke around politely. I also would say this.

Promising Young Woman is a lot better than love life. That is the thing that we're not talking about. That is like the reference, which is, is it better than love life? Yes. And the answer is yes. I just was expecting absolutely nothing with love life. And so I was blown away when I felt gratified in any way.

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What do you think is the script of the year so far? Do you have a pick? Honestly, I haven't seen enough. I haven't seen enough. Yeah, me neither. What do you like? I heard the trial of the Chicago 7 is fantastic. I need to watch that. Because it is Oscar season, girl.

It's Oscar season. I can't believe we're in it. But it's just not a... I mean, no disrespect to the films that are in contention. i just feel like it's just such a weird year yeah they're saying that that goes that goes may win again they're saying she uh frances may win a third oscar wow well chloe zow is also winning every director award so we may have we may see her win best director at the oscars and people that have seen nomadland say it's absolutely incredible i can't wait i did did we did we point this out when it came out we were like borat sequel will win some awards miss maria bakalova has also been killing it with the

critics awards and supporting actress so this is usually a good sign that there's like the critics have obviously chosen her as the one they would like to see at least nominated right but there's this there's this whole thing where it's like the way you get nominated at the oscars is pretty much if your peers vote for you and people in the actual industry vote for you not critics and you're like we don't know if she has peers to speak of well i don't know if she has peer support like i don't know if everyone in the academy is gonna like put her on their list the same way it's like i wonder like the critics are awarding promising young women the screenplay awards but i wonder if other writers are going to

look at the script and say yes this is what i would vote for like i just wonder if other actors know maria bakalova enough or saw borat enough to vote for her for the award. I fucking hope so. I hope so too. I haven't seen One Night in Miami. I have to. You and I love Miss Regina. Regina.

I mean, they've been talking about her all year. You know what else I really want to see is Malcolm and Marie with Zendaya. Malcolm and Marie with Zendaya and John David Washington. Yes. I haven't seen The Father. The Father I should check out. People rave about The Father. I heard Father is incredible.

Olivia Colman is in that. I'm looking at the film experience. We should have Nathaniel back on. We got to have him back on to talk. We love Nathaniel. And honestly, it's been such an interesting year for the whole Oscar season because i realized this the other day because i did my sat i was on the nominating committee for sag tv so i was looking at like an awards schedule and um the oscars are on april 25th that's like that's crazy all the way into the summer it's

gonna be literally we're going to the damn beach okay wait, wait. I'm looking at Nathaniel's prediction index for best supporting. This is just cracking me up. Maria Bakalova, Bora. Ellen Burstyn, Pieces of a Woman. Glenn Close, Hillbillyology. Olivia Coleman, The Father. Amanda Seyfried, Mick. I'm like, this is the most, first of all, lovely all-white selection.

But I'm just like, this random ass group of names. And Maria Bakalova is at the very top. I don't know. Is that alphabetical? Yes, it is. It might be alphabetical, but he does do a very in-depth analysis. And I think he's got her pretty much on the bubble. But they're saying that it's going to be pretty much a cakewalk for Amanda Seyfried this

year for Mink. She's a lock on Nathaniel's list. But for Maria, she's the critic's choice and a very likely Golden Globe nomination will boost her profile, but Oscar rarely goes for improv comedy, Nathaniel. I mean, the thing about her performance though is it's like, yes, it was improv

comedy, but it's also like you can't tell me that she didn't put herself out there more than anyone else ever has. 100%. She had to hit these emotional beats and moments really, really hard and I think she nailed each one like when she's in the car with the babysitter when she's with fucking

Rudy it's like it's crazy she is a star she is that was a great movie and she is what you walk away thinking about and I think that literally she put herself in a room with Rudy Giuliani and was willing to go there and also was so funny

and touching throughout. She fostered that relationship with her babysitter. That was unbelievable. And I'm sorry, but you're talking about being convincing. She convinced this woman for weeks or months. And the woman was

really hurt by it. Did you see this? Well, I saw another interview with Maria where she said that they had a conversation. Now it's all good. And like Maria and her have this great relationship. But at the time that the movie came out, this woman was like, I feel so deceived. And I'm like, my heart kind of hurt.

I was like, fuck. Oh, I was like, I thought that Borat, like I thought that, you know, like Linnell in the first Borat movie, like everyone was in on it. Yeah. But I guess with her, it was different.

Yes. With everyone in the first part. But I also think good for Sasha Baron Cohen. I'm not to give credit to like, you know, a man, but it's like, but in all the press stuff,

like he has really championed Maria in everything. He's just like, she is incredible. She's the fucking star. This movie is about her. Yeah. And I just think it's wonderful. She's absolutely the story of that movie. I mean, there's no doubt.

And if she were to win, I'd be thrilled. I don't think she will. I think it feels like one of those things where it's like they have the opportunity to give the award to like a young starlet and so they probably will um it feels like they would love nothing more hollywood than to call amanda cypher at an oscar winner um right and they have an opportunity so they'll probably take that but um if she gets nominated i'll be really happy because i always want there to be at least

one solid comedy nomination like i was one of the people that was saying that years ago when tiffany haddish was getting critics awards for girls trip i'm like why not what other performance was more entertaining you know what i mean like she nailed what she needed to do in terms of supporting actress in a movie like She was the comedic powerhouse of that very successful movie. And if the goal is to recognize merit in those types of roles, then

why wouldn't you support something like that? I mean, you know what I'm saying. I do. I do. He has tier two and Nathaniel has in tier two Yang Yu-Jung who plays the grandmother in Minari. You have to watch this movie. She's fantastic.

I mean that whole, yeah, I hope she gets that whole cast. Unbelievable. It's because I was going into this movie being like, okay, like Steven Yeun's like the, the star.

It's all five of them carrying that together. It's really, really crazy. I really hope that they, that they do a better job this year with really hope that they that they um do a better job this year with representation if they're going to nominate minari they should nominate the actors because what happened with parasite last year was like truly fucked up unacceptable because and it was because they didn't know or learn the names and if she has

delivered a performance that deserving that's deserving of an Oscar nomination, she should be there. I believe she has. Like, something happens to that character late in the film. I won't spoil it. But, like, she just does it so, so well. Performs it so well. Okay. Frances.

He has Frances. I'm just looking at actresses and supporting. Best actresses and supporting. Frances McDormand is a lock. Viola's a lock. He has Carrie, Vanessa Kirby, and Z in the as the top tier so the thing about the thing about zendaya is the movie now it's come out um and it's not getting the greatest reviews but apparently she is phenomenal in it and they're just so obsessed with her right now and this is the industry i think after she

won the emmy and she's obviously so fucking good on euphoria and why wouldn't you want to um i think encourage and like champion the fact that like she's this incredibly young actress similar with amanda seyfried i'm like it seems like if she is good enough we'd be hearing about it more and i i hate i hate that um one person can win this many awards but if she's fucking deserving of it, Frances McDormand will win a third Oscar probably in this movie, unless they give it to Viola, who should have a best actress. Or yeah, her first best actress.

That's right. Yeah. An interesting season. Well, Vanessa Kirby, did you watch The Crown? Yeah, I watched her seasons. Yeah. So Vanessa Kirby, did you know that she's known in England as the greatest stage i watched her seasons yeah so vanessa kirby did you know that she's like known in england as like the greatest stage actress of her generation yes i didn't know this

they consider her like to be as good as kate blanchett like they she's like she's incredible yeah truly and and stunning unfortunately as a unfortunately being shallow i'm just saying like she's fucking gorgeous a glamazonian glamazon a glamazonian young woman prehistoric glamazon glamazon huntress ad she is vanessa kirby is that it's actually it's rule of culture number 55 vanessa kirby is prehistoric glamazon huntress ad she is that can we quickly um she's got a point she's got a point point she's a legend icon she's an icon legend and she's she is the moment now come on now i wanted to um check in with you about how you felt about gaga's national anthem after we discussed

it on the last week's episode how did you feel about how she turned it? Well, you, I don't think, we did not discuss it. You, let's not erase history. You, I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. The concept of twists on the national anthem. Do you think, do you feel that she performed some twists? I don't think she did much of a twist.

Except when she went, Oh, say. She kind of gave it like a very much an option on the O. She made it operatic. She made it. It was. She was very patriotic. There were enough flourishes in there that it felt like I would say they constitute a twist.

Because between. Oh, the land. That's what it was. Oh, the because between... All the land! That's what it was. All the land! Doug is dragging her. The twists were in the timing. Doug, get in here. Actually, this is good because he actually was emailing me

about what I thought about it and he did have some interesting takes. Come on, Doug. Doug, get in here. Sometimes I do get individual emails from doug i never okay well first of all we have to address this i've never gotten an individual email from doug i guess i don't have a personality michelle visage he's like michelle visage talking to an asian queen on let him answer for himself why don't you why do you sometimes email me and not bowen well matt you were the

one that brought up the lady gaga thing so right i just figure i and i don't like the group emails just because a lot of times when i get sent on the group emails i'm like oh my god will you take me off this fucking group email you figured you didn't want to upset bowen with something you weren't sure he wanted to talk about i didn't know if he wanted to talk about it. I would have loved to talk about it. I'm very hurt. I actually loved it. I thought, I got goosebumps from the Lady Gaga thing.

Really? I don't like people doing that song. I thought it was amazing. Okay, so when you say the twists were in the timing, what do you mean? You weren't dragging. No, no, no, no. Like, they were just their pauses and it was the space

that she was leaving was not typical in my in my mind not so much the melody i felt like the melody was pretty pretty standard it was just like she left these little gaps and it was great i loved okay it was art it was art pop you felt it was art pop is what you're saying yeah absolutely doug dude can you say the words lady gaga doing the national anthem was art pop lady gaga doing the national anthem was art pop thank you oh my god what did you really think oh my god that was awesome what did you think of j-lo doug yeah what'd you think of j-lo's performance i didn't really see it the way I watched Lady Gaga. I didn't see it live, the Lady Gaga thing. I went back and I watched it three times in a row.

I saw J-Lo and I went, eh. And I didn't make it through it. I think she's a B-rated singer and a B-plus dancer. I just don't. B-plus dancer? The dancing is undeniable. Don't do that. Don't you don't,

Doug, this is not a time to Jennifer, not B plus dancer. Wow. Okay. So Hans is pointing out this man hasn't seen hustlers. Have you seen hustlers? Yeah.

Did you watch the Superbowl last year? Doug, you don't, you got it before you make these claims. You have to, you have to get downloaded on the information. That's all I'm saying. But this is also when you remember, this is someone who said he didn't really know Celine

Dion in 1997, and despite the fact that he was working on her album. You know what I mean? Like, that's like- Unbelievable. You have to accept and understand this man. You have to see, this is a part of the unity in the country. You have to see people where they're at. I know.

And look, I've been in, I've, I've had to work with a lot of engineers in the last few months. They all put up, put up their walls. You have to impress them. Doug,

Doug always puts out there this, this, this unscalable wall that you have to really break through. You have to be gaga singing the damn national anthem with a bird on her chest. What'd you think of the bird? What'd you think of the bird, Doug?

And the outfit ensemble. I was fine with the bird. It was fine. Okay. It was interesting. I have never seen a bird on an outfit like that. That was a first for me. A whole new world.

One might say. Okay. Well, Doug, thank you. Well, one more question before you go you didn't watch the Katy Perry performance no was it good? yeah it was good

it was good it was very proud it was very spirited she sang firework the last moment of the 2020 election was Katy Perry singing firework. One thing I'd want you to say, though, before you go, is you said you worked with Katy Perry once.

And what did you say about her? She's an amazing musician and can sing her butt off. Oh, yeah. Doug, you got to check out her MTV Unplugged set. Excellent. Really good. She was a good guitar player. Yeah, she knows how to play.

She's talented. She really is. And I mean, I'm a Katy cat i listened to daisy three times a day it was number two on my most played songs of 2020 and he's a star in the video doug did you watch the video with matt matt with matt in it i'm in her music video not the end of the world anyway you just don't really listen doug doesn't listen bye doug you. Go back to engineering our show. All right. So that was, as always, illuminating. You know, I think, well, first of all, we should say, yes, that was a moment that embodied unity in the way that Joe Biden wants it. I don't know that unity is the thing that we need right now. Not to get too, we don't have to get into too

much of a discussion about this. Listen, Queen, go off. I do want to talk about this a little bit. Queen, I think we have to honestly punish people who want to endanger on a mass scale people's lives. That's all. That's it.

It's the billionaire's ethics for me. Sorry. No, you're 100% right. I'm at least happy that after the insurrection, people are calling them what they are, which is terrorists. I'm happy that we're finally using that word to describe what the passionate Trump base really is because this is what they wanted to do the whole time was take over. They want power for themselves just because a dictator is basically telling them that they're entitled to it. This is what they always were. So at least I'm happy that we are finally fucking

calling it flat out. What they're doing is domestic terror and inciting domestic terror. So at least that. But everyone that's still in the government that was beating the drum of... That's what I'm saying. They need to be out. And it's crazy that that part

still has to be a discussion but cruz should be out holly should be out mccarthy should be out these idiots like bobbert and marjorie taylor green who are these q anon at best q anon sympathizing at worst literally q anon um representatives it's just crazy that they're there. And you've got Congress people trying to bring guns onto the floor of the House of Representatives. I mean, it's gotten to a point where it's like, you're so right. We need to literally remove people who are in positions of power. If they believe these things, it's not time for, quote unquote, unity. We need to unify behind the principle that this isn't acceptable. It's that whole thing. Everyone's seen the infographics, but you can't tolerate intolerance. Otherwise, intolerance wins.

And also, in every attempted overthrow of government that has happened in South America or in Central America that was incited by US imperialism. Anytime the fascist-leaning party was not punished or snuffed out, they ended up coming back with a rage. We can't do this. I mean, I'm already worried that there's this collective amnesia from January 6th already that it's like, we can't do this i mean i'm already worried that like there's this collective amnesia from like january 6 already that it's like okay now we're in joe biden's america let's turn a new leaf but um like have all that stuff on the underbelly and not acknowledge it that's the feeling that i get that is kind of worrying me it's gotten to a point where because the news cycle is so fast it feels like we can move on. And this is something

we did a really good job of like calling out for at least a few days, but now it does seem like the conversation has moved on to, wow, isn't it great that the press secretary is actually doing her job? It's like, yeah, that is great, but we don't really have time to get used to a positive new world like we need to start fixing what is truly bad in this country and and start understanding and and um reckoning with why what just happened happened yeah it's okay to think oh wow it's so refreshing that people who are competent are back in some institutional power position. But it's also like, that should not be the thing to celebrate when it should have been the normal thing anyway. And even then, having those people in those positions

is not itself a net positive anyway. I'm saving this for my, I don't think so, honey, in some way. I think like January 1, 6, 21 was like one of the darkest days of this whole fucking country. And like, this is my own personal vendetta. This is my own personal bullshit. But I'm like, I will remember the people who were like creating content that day. That's all I'm saying. I'm like, guys, there's no, and whatever. That's,

that's just me being petty, but I'm like, we have to like really sit with this horrendous thing that has happened. Um, that we can, and we can't even like deal with it in the way that's like, this isn't who we are, blah, blah, blah. Like that's not even true. It's like, we just have to like solve this. This is something that we have to solve immediately and that we can. I mean, a lot of people are going back and forth about whether or not, well, not really. A lot of people are going back and forth about it, which is part of how insane this all is that we have to have this discussion. But whether or not an impeachment is what the country needs right now, it's important

that everyone knows. The conviction, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, people were saying that about the impeachment and now about the conviction. But even if it's not, quote unquote, possible to get 17 senators that are on the Republican side to agree to convict the president of inciting an insurrection. It's it's it must we must go through this process because it's so important that everyone knows that no one is above the law. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends.

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What are you listening to now? What's your music this day? Well, I'm listening a lot to, I actually made a new playlist. And on it is, you know, you're going to laugh, but there has been discoveries recently that are very me and that they're happening about four or five years late. And I'm embarrassed to say this. I'm really embarrassed to say this,

but unfortunately you didn't, you didn't know who FKA twigs was until very recently. I always knew who FKA twigs was, but then when everything came out about trial above with her, um, I, I kind of, for the first time ever decided decided to really listen to her.

And I'm fucking obsessed with her. And I feel embarrassed that it took that for me to really investigate who she was. But I'm also angry at you about it. About FKA? About Twigs? Because I think that you didn't have sister support for me by showing me her. You shut the fuck up right now. No, you did't have sister support for me by showing me her.

You shut the fuck up right now. No, you did not have sister support. You did not provide sister support. No, you're stupid, Flop. I always give you what I am sampling at the moment. I give you a sampling menu of what I am consuming at the moment, and you always push away. That's what it is.

It's the same with 90 Day. It's the what it is. It's the same with 90 Day. It's the same with Zelda. It's the same with everything. First of all, here's what you just did. You said Zelda, which I've played. You said 90 Day, which I'm literally currently watching it. And then you said it's the same with everything

because you realized there was nothing else. You haven't sent me a song in a long time that you're like, you need to listen to this song. You have not. And it's you, the cooler half of this pairing that's supposed to... You haven't sent me a song in a long time that you're like, you need to listen to this song. You have not. And it's you, the cooler half of this pairing that's supposed to introduce me to cool

things like FKA twigs. I try to introduce you to cool things all the time outside of music. And I think that music is something so personal that I don't want to like infringe on your tastes because we have different listening and consuming diets. That's it. Like a media song diets. I'm sorry. I'm,

I'm, I'm mixing my words up. The way I feel about you right now can only be described in the song cellophane by FK twigs. It's a really good FK twigs. I can call your FK. It's really good fka twigs i keep calling your fka it's really good twigs um and also i i've what what else is on this playlist that you're four to five years late okay we'll get this so it's twigs i have the easy casey musgraves remix by

choice of on yes i've recently started discovering l King because I like the song X's and O's the other night on Drag Race and then I found this song America's Sweetheart which I didn't know was like a huge hit but I love it now Driver's License by Olivia Rodrigo, Don't Drag then I have all the instrumental

covers from Bridgerton of those pop songs like Girls Like You Wildest dreams and some of those are thank you next i think they're really cute and honestly i work out to them uh okay and then on next on this playlist is a song called toy by netta who which was recently showed to us by friend of the pod chris schleicher um because she won eurovision with this song the song is amazing net Netta toy. Everyone needs to listen to it.

What country was she from? She was, she was Greek. I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't want to say. But while you look that up, I've also got.

Netta Barzillai. Yeah. She was from Lisbon. Lisbon. Yes. Yeah. Then I have the 34, 35 remix um for some reason for some reason you're making me high by tony braxton and then two songs from the promising young woman soundtrack

which are the boys remix by charlie xcx and the drollo remix and then angel of the morning which ends the movie and i'm fucking obsessed obsessed with it. Oh, that's right. Oh, I'm sorry. I have to make a correction. Netta was representing Israel, and she is Israeli. Okay, so... What about you? What's your playlist recently? Have you listened to Hotels by Jasmine Sullivan?

Oh, yes. You have to listen to Hotels. I've been putting on Good Days by SZA a lot. You didn't happen to flick on The Versus with Keisha Cole and Ashanti, did you? I didn't. Was it okay? I don't really... I like both of them.

I don't really know them well enough to appreciate that verses. Here's the thing. I was... I used to love Ashanti. Oh, Ashanti was it. And I love Keisha Cole. I really liked both of their music back in the day. And I kind of assumed that Keisha Cole was going to eat Ashanti up.

That did not happen. Ashanti sounded fucking great. And I enjoyed it. But the energy was a little bit weird. Which this is my thing with verses at all times. It's like you're doing something, which is one person pitted against each other. And it's, I know it's all in good fun and it's just something to do for quarantine, but like some people are going to feel a certain way about

how this goes and the energy is going to be weird. And this is the first one I've watched where it felt like the energy was weird between them. It is. Can I say something? You can say anything. It's very culture, which was our I Don't Think So Honey show where we pitted people against each other. It was a battle. You were either on Team Matt or Team Bowen. We used to be obsessed with being adversarial. That was the thing.

It was always fighting. It was Matt versus Bowen. Bowen. Get on a team. It was night soap. It was culture. Yeahen. Bowen. Get on a team. It was night soap. It was, it was, it was culture. Yeah,

it was adversarial, but that show was a funny show. And there were some iconic moments. Annie Donnelly walking down the aisle. Oh yeah. To that fucking look. Pat Regan's win. Pat Regan.

His big win. His big win. The feud between Annie Donnelly and michelle collins judge michelle collins um i just think it was a weird energy because people were really actually genuinely hurt by the competitive aspect of it oh yeah i remember i when some people would lose the heartbreak in their eyes i just i'll never forget it i get i i i well i i understood and i was like oh what have i done i've i've had a hand in making this person feel bad. But when you enter into the ball,

understand there's going to be a victor and a defeat. Yes. But that's the thing that bugged me about this verse. I was like, oh, they don't look like they're having fun. Like they were on their phones while the other one was singing. No, that's not acceptable it was so there was this one screen grab of like Keisha Cole like

belting a note and Ashanti face in her phone it was that's rude Ashanti rude but they were both rude they were both great but I thought Ashanti was um left with the upper hand let me finish Jasmine Sullivan Hot Hotails.

You know what album from last year that came out that I slept on? And then I think a lot of us... No, I'm not speaking for everybody. Victoria Monet, Jaguar. Oh, yeah. Incredible album. I took an edible the other night and I just like put that album on. I was like, I've heard the one song she does with Khalid.

I haven't listened to the rest of the album. Put it on. I was like, I've heard the one song she does with Khalid. I haven't listened to the rest of the album. Put it on. I was like, oh my god, I am the girls are vibing. Yeah, Victoria's the reason for the season. And I have to say, the only person I've

described with that descriptor recently was Noma, Noma Demoswani from The Undoing. I think we should have her on the pod. I was just going to say that! Because she's begun to I could say Victoria. I think we should have her on the pod. I was just going to say that because she's begun to engage on social media. I think she loves social media. And there's a lot to talk to her about.

We can talk to her about Harry Potter. Oh, girl. Yes. There's some... I really have been obsessed with Noma ever since The Undoing, but there's so many interviews of her where she

you can just she is such like she has this quality about her that is like Betty Gilp and that is like I'm trying to think of other people, but like these actresses who are just like earthy and like present, alive present, alive. It's like

yeah, it's a present, like just like understand the core of their being in a way that is like so thrilling alive. Present alive. It's like, yeah, it's a present, like just like understand their, the core of their being in a way that is like so thrilling to see. And I think, I think Noah really, I think she really embodies that. Oh, I'm so your wishlist for this year is as follows.

Natalie Portman and Noma Dimaswani and Andy Sandberg. So we have a long list and here's the thing, everyone. We, we're going to be doing like, weirdly enough, less guests. I think we're doing this thing now where we're doing a guest and then just us

and then a guest and then just us. I know that many people's favorite narrative of the podcast is what are they doing now? So this is just to let you know. That's what we're doing. No, I'm just saying, I think we're constantly talking about like

maybe we'll do this or maybe we'll do that yes yes yes yes no this is the cadence that we're gonna try out for a bit see how it goes yes door um yes door i wanted to i wanted to bring something up which we have not discussed but the sex in the city of it all we are both such fans and we haven't gotten a chance to talk about the fact that they are rebooting it there literally was a teaser released of course this film will not have the character of samantha mini what yeah it's uh sorry movie did i call it a movie yeah you said film well that's okay what i well really first of all everything's a film uh this this limited series i guess or series i don't know how long it'll go will not have samantha and i needed to but I will really, first of all, everything's a film. Uh, this, this limited series, I guess,

or series. I don't know how long it'll go. We'll not have Samantha. And I needed to know what your take is on all this. I think, I don't think it's worth it. I think you're miss you're missing. There's, I mean,

it depends on how they handle the absence and how they address it. I don't know that it's possible for something narratively to exist that would be satisfying to see and be like, oh wow, okay. I accept this. I'm going to watch these three women. Maybe they can't replace, they can't add a fourth person in.

No way. But it's a weird thing for me. Unless the whole thing is about Samantha not being in the group anymore. You know what I'm saying? And even then the absence is like so central, no matter what. There's no option where it's not the thing that everyone is thinking about. I would 100% agree.

I think that if she's not going to be there, it can't be a thing of she's in LA or she's in another country or she's busy because we've literally already seen a narrative where that's true. And we know that she keeps in touch with them constantly. So unfortunately, I do think they're going to have to kill off the character for it to work. And there's no world in which that's not the focus of the narrative. Exactly. They are so crucial together as a foursome. And she is such an integral focus of the narrative. Exactly. They are so crucial together as a foursome. And she is such an integral part of the show.

Not just the humor of the show, but the soul of the show, why the show works as a, as a sounding board for Carrie, as like a vestige of Carrie, an extension of Carrie. You need Samantha. And I think that loss has to be something that we, we as Carrie, you need Samantha. And I think that loss has to be something that we as Carrie,

if she's our avatar, go through. We must. I agree with you. You know what's also interesting that they can't really work around is that they either have to kill off the character or they have to write in something where it's like there was a falling out. Right. But it's just, it, it wouldn't really be believable because, because Kim Cattrall's whole thing is throughout my entire time working on that show with those women, I felt left out.

I felt blah, blah, blah. I felt blah, blah, blah. That was like a long standing sort of like long simmering conflict with sex in the city.

It's like the best, most touching part of the first movie. And tell me if you agree with me, tell me if this is sister support is when they're in Mexico and carries in bed. And Samantha comes over with a tray of food and like feeds carry. Yeah. Do you know that moment? She just smiles.

She just smiles. And she's like, she just like feeds her. And I'm just like, that is, I think Joel and I agree. Like that that is like my our favorite part of the movie yeah i think that's not no no i i mean there's a huge emotional like pillar of the movie and the and the fact that like we watched this woman go beyond best friend she's family like the four of them are family and so that they're not going to have a falling out. You know what I mean?

Not when Samantha is in her sixties. You know what I mean? I just, right. Or, or who knows? You know what I mean? Like I've enjoyed the show for years and the content since the show ended

invariably. Like I I've loved the first movie for what it was. The second movie. I don't think we needed, but, um, right. When we're doing a limited series afterwards and it's not going to have

Samantha. I just think we, we have to engage with that fact that she's not going to be there. And, you know, a lot of the show does examine what it's like to age as a woman. And obviously a part of any person's experience as you age as you lose people so maybe you know if i'm going to be really optimistic here it'll be

something really good for the series because it gives the women something to explore on a very deep emotional level and it is also going to change the dynamic so that in a way it could be a gift for the narrative but then you also have to contend with the fact that we know what it's like when samantha is there and it's so fun and she is really the reason for so much of the comedy of that show a majority i completely agree i have nothing to add also just like i feel like i feel like you know what it'll be a good thing if it makes carrie realize she needs to divorce big. Because I do think that that needs to end.

Sure. Who I know, we're saying that no one could replace Samantha. No one could be the fourth woman. Who in the already existing canon of Sex and the City would be a good replacement?

I think either Amy Sedaris or Margaret Cho. In the already existing canon. Honestly, I don't think there is someone in the already existing canon. I know, but I'm saying. So this is what I'll say. If it was going to be anything, they need to make a new friend and it needs to be Vivica Fox. Yes, yes, yes.

Because I'm not seeing enough color. I'm not seeing enough color. And I didn't see enough color when I walked in. I didn't see it when I started the series. It's our job. I'm not seeing enough color. We've openly talked on the podcast about how Matt has added that lilt and that inflection to that quote, quote unquote, where it's like Ellen Pompeo. I'm not seeing enough color.

I'm not seeing enough color Ellen Pompeo goes I'm not seeing enough color but we have twisted the auditory memory of this I'm not seeing enough color I didn't see it when I came in here today when I came in here today and I didn't see it when I came

in here today name another legend name another legend one Name another legend. One more thing I wanted to ask you about before we jumped into I Don't Think So, Honey. Yes. Thank you for driving the conversation today, by the way, girl. Sister support. Well, girl, sometimes on these culture

catch-ups, I just want to hit the cultural items because sometimes the girls, the readers, they get a little edgy with us afterwards when we haven't discussed it. You're right. This touched down in the news just today. So, Disneyland,

did you hear they're going to revamp the Jungle Cruise? Because it's horrifically racist. Yes, tell me more. So, basically, this is part of a whole initiative that the company is going through where you know they're changing Splash Mountain to Princess Tiana and Friends. It's now going part of like a whole initiative that the company is going through where you know they're changing splash mountain right to princess tiana and friends it's now going to be like a princess and the frog thing yeah and the jungle cruise is finally taking out all of its like

very racist depiction of natives um and just changing the narrative so that those things aren't in there and i was just thinking to myself about how like that entire area of the park, like, which is like, um, frontier land and adventure land is entirely about colonialism. It's about imperialism.

Yeah. It's just interesting that like, finally we're waking up to this. And then I thought about the hall of presidents, which has just had Trump giving speeches every single day in Disney world for the past four years, I guess. And now they're putting it down so they can build the Joe Biden animatronic.

But I'm like, maybe we should just get fucking rid of this and like revamp the entire thing because it's not acceptable. No, you, oh my God, you should have played, um,

Bioshock infinite where it's truly like, it's this, it's God, you should have played Bioshock Infinite, where it's truly like, it's this game that takes place in, I want to say, let's say the 30s, 40s, 50s even, that takes place on this steampunky, LOL, city in the sky called Columbia. And basically, it's this place where this one guy, I forget his name. Hans, did you play it?

Maybe Hans can fill in the details here. Yeah. Okay. Hans, what was that guy's name? Oh, Comstock, right?

There's, so this, this is guy. I love what Hans is just present right away that, you know, he's listening. I know, you know, he's listening.

Hans, Hans looks really good today. He really did. Everyone, everyone look up Hans' wedding is that okay Hans? you know what's so interesting? no he said no

they look so good when you type in Las Culturistas to search Hans pops up producer Hans Hans is a good name he said no way it's because we talk about

you constantly so some like back on in the Forever Dog days when we would say HPJ Hot Producer Joe Hot Producer Joe they would

all the fans would always be asking it's not happening for me what's not happening Las Culturistas he's apparently typing it in literally Hans

the search I'm telling you what happens if I do it right now it will pop up. Open up, open up, open up. Incognito mode. I go to google.com.

And we're going to do Las Culturistas. I'm telling you it does it. Hans, yeah. I see Hans on an incognito. Like, it's not even algorithm to my own search history. I see it. Las Culturistas. Hans, it's literally the third thing. It says, Las Culturistas podcast. Las Culturistas. Hans.

It's literally the third thing. It says, Las Culturistas podcast, Las Culturistas top 200, Las Culturistas Hans. Hans. A star. And I'm really happy that it's,

and also, Las Culturistas Doug is up here too. Doug. Anna. What about Anna? We need Anna love. Everyone start searching for Las Culturistas Anna. We need some Anna love.

But it also, I'm also honored that it says, Culturistas Survivor Watch Order. So the girls are doing that research. They're seeking it out. Okay. The autofill. That's what we're saying. Yes, the autofill. He said, do you mean the autofill? Yes, the autofill. We do mean the autofill.

Wow, I'm before Matt Rogers. Okay. Tell me about the game. Basically, it's not a theme park, but it is this like separate space that celebrates and like venerates America in a way that is completely darkly like glorifying like slavery. And like, it's like, this is what the founding fathers would have wanted.

This is the only city in America that the founding fathers would have been proud of. It's like truly, it's roughly the description, right? Right. Hans. But anyway, like that game,

LOL woke me up to like that shit before like any book. And now I get to like read about all this stuff. But like, that was the game where I was like, Oh, all of America is like darkly, darkly white supremacist. And I mean,

I knew that before, but like, this was just like a weird, like way in to be like, Oh, like, at disneyland and disney world that like celebrate american history in a way that like looks past all like the violent brutal stuff is like should not exist i don't know not that it shouldn't exist but like it's just i don know. It should be reconceived. Absolutely. And that's when you realize like, of course, um,

Americans have this insane ego and believe that. This is the greatest. Are so resistant to change in these areas because we've been inundated with, even in Disney world, which for someone that's from like suburbs, like product of like, uh, you know,

baby boomer generation, American dream, whatever, like from then suburbs, like product of like, you know, baby boomer generation, American dream, whatever, like from then on, like is the picture of. Ideal like society and how you celebrate quote unquote, other cultures like is to experience like something like you, like you would in Disney world.

And literally it's like their depiction of natives is disgusting. Like splash mountain, like is based on a racist movie. Like, and that's the most popular attraction there. It's like their depiction of natives is disgusting. Like Splash Mountain is based on a racist movie. And that's the most popular attraction there. It's like all these little things. And we've just been, we've had an animatronic in Disney World that's Trump. Performing every day. Like it's crazy. And that's when-

They can't have him speak anymore. Like they can make it so that he doesn't say anything that he just sits there i mean that's i i started a change.org petition years ago that was do not do not build a a trump animatronic and it got some traction disney did not listen in fact joe walsh who ran for president posted it and said the liberal elite look at them they've gotten more ridiculous than ever and then he ran against trump as like i'm the republican antidote to trump and he was like he fully tried to drag me online and i was like thanks for the boost i remember before andrew breitbart died he tried to drag me online too and i was just like bitch and he died in hell and as a

result he died as a result he died um all right is it time for i don't think so honey i suppose it is oh my god okay this is fun this is i don't think so honey matt what is i don't think so honey you always ask and i feel like they know but i will say because if there's just one person that's listening that doesn't know it's worth it for them you know if this changes one heart and that's what I said when I started this podcast with you, I was like, you know what,

I'll do the podcast with you because if it changes one person's mind, if it changes one person's heart, if it makes one person realize within themselves that they need to change, it'll have been worth it. Do you know that? Do you love that? Do you love that Celine Dion song? One heart.

I love that song. Do you know that? Do you love that? Do you love that Celine Dion song, One Heart? I love that song. Do you know how it goes? Can you sing it? One heart keeps you wondering, wondering, needs you when any love finds a way through the night. Listen to it. I have never heard it,

but I love it based on the way you sound. Thank you. Do you know what song I love the other night that I was, and I'm actually going to listen to it after this. It was, yes, it was Celine. It was The Reason. I don't know The Reason. You are the reason

I wake up every day. Incredible. Sleep through the night. You are the reason. Oh my God. Can we give it up for Celine? Oh my God. Oh my God. reason oh my god can we give it up for chelene oh my god oh my god selene dion what a treasure anyway i don't think so honey is one minute of ranting against something in

pop culture that we don't like and you say i don't think so honey while you do it which a lot of our readers last week got a little upset atrixie mattel who did not say i don't think so, honey, while you do it, which a lot of our readers last week got a little upset at Trixie Mattel, who did not say, I don't think so, honey. But what I would say to Trixie Mattel, not say, I don't think so, honey, is she doesn't need to. And she gave, what a fun episode that was. Jesus. Very fun. Very fun.

But this is, I don't think so, honey. Matt, would you like to go first? Today, you're going to go first. Oh my God. Well, I think that's a bad omen. I think that means things are going to be backwards for everyone. Oh my God. Listen, I feel confident that it will go forwards. Great.

And I feel so confident that it will go forwards, that at this time, I have no hesitation. When I press go on this Bowen Yangs, I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Celebrating Joe Biden reversing the trans military ban. Who is this actually helping? I'm not saying that there aren't trans people who want to join the military.

That person exists. Those people exist in our country, but just wanting to abolish the police is incompatible with glorifying, celebrating the military industrial complex and wanting people to join it because we're doing fine. We're doing more than okay with the way things are right now. I don't know if you've heard, but defense spending and defense budgets are sort of the biggest money suck that this country's ever, ever had. We don't need to celebrate the idea that trans people get to be part of this terrible, terrible, terrible, nefarious force in the world. Patty Harrison said it best. Um, I don't want to be invited to the party, but I'm hurt that I still wasn't invited.

To right a wrong doesn't make it right, even still. And that's one minute. That's a very interesting take, Bowen Yang. I think it's a take that a lot of people are sharing today. I mean, so yeah, we're recording this on Monday. I think over the weekend, that's when Joe Biden repealed, or reversed, I'm sorry. Yes. The ban. Biden repealed or reversed I'm sorry yes the ban and like it makes sense that it is a good thing it's on a net positive right it's a good thing and that there's equality in terms of the work

in all in all forms is bad right and so I guess like in in in terms of like yes your honor this is why we're supporting this like any discrimination should have no place in any workforce. So I understand why people are, and also there's a lot of people out there that want to serve their country. And you know what I mean? And so yes, everyone should have an equal opportunity to do that. But what you're saying is totally true, which is. It's the same thing as people celebrating the fact that we have our first black defense secretary where then people are like, oh yeah, I, now I,

I'm so touched that I'm represented. Um, and like, now I can, now little kids can grow up and be, and aspire to be defense secretaries. Like, who cares?

I don't know. It's just, it's just really, it's just really weird to me it's that meme of like you know you know Democrats having like a plane like a bomber airplane with like BLM and the pride flag on it's like wait yeah it's like we're still we're still like um funding the destabilization of other governments worldwide and And it's, it's just, I don't know. Yeah. It's like America put on like a hot dress and was like, like,

didn't, didn't like, um, do their hair. You know what I mean? That's exactly right. It's like, we still,

we still know it's you and you're still shitty. Why'd you come to the party this way? It's like, but don't you like my dress that says pride? It's like, no, it's a cute dress, but you're still shitty. You're still shitty.

You shouldn't have come this way. No, thank you. That's exactly right. Okay, Matt, are you ready? Do you think I'm so stupid? I think I will never, ever, ever stop telling you how you are like one of the smartest people I know. Okay. Well then I think you'll like my, I don't think so, honey.

Okay, girl. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Four remotes. In order to work my TV, it's four remotes. I have to turn on the TV with one remote.

Then you have to turn on the cable with another remote. Go over. Then there's the Apple TV remote and there's more remotes for volume and shit i don't think so honey that the remotes are often small the apple tv remote is so small it can literally go away so not only am i responsible for four different remotes my four children but now some of them are small and easy to lose i need one remote one remote to rule them all because four is a crowd and it's a crowd on my coffee table which already has other things on it it's like insane four remotes and also i'm sorry but the fact of the matter is this lg remote i'm gonna drag you it's chaotic and a lot of these remotes have different sensitivities so it's different

adjustments i don't think so i need too much work it's like math and that's one minute it's like math i absolutely agree with you sister support roku the roku is too much. LG. The Roku. Apple. Apple TV. And what's the fourth? Oh, cable. See, that's why I don't do cable. That's why I do the YouTube TV so that I can at least control it

on the same remote as the Apple TV, which is, yes, too small. This is so tiny. This is one of the smallest things in America. The way, that's one of the smallest things in America. The way I've lost that thing and gotten so panicked.

I'm like, how will I control the TV? I don't want to do it through my phone. Oh, no, nightmare. Nightmare. They need to make that remote, that specific remote bigger. Look at this. Here's the thing. If a remote is smaller than a dick I'd be excited about, it needs to be bigger.

Every remote needs to be the size of a good dick. And I'm looking at this Apple TV remote. And if I saw a penis erect that was this big, I'd be like, I mean, I might lose it in my mouth. Yeah, I might. This might go missing in my crevices. There you go. Can I ask you a question? A personal question?

Yeah. What is your like sexual vitality right now are you feeling horny i'm so i'm not i'm so glad you asked this i went to this the bookstore today uh green light um in in brooklyn i picked up a few books i picked up um detransition baby which i'm really excited to keep reading i'm really enjoying it so far. A novel. And then I bought a book called Getting It. I forget who it's written by,

but it's this really nice thick handbook on like ethical hooking up. There's a book called The Ethical Slap, which is classic, but this is like a really fun, dare I say, like very millennial designed book that's about like modern hookup culture and like a way to like really considerately

approach casual sex and like understand the reasons why you specifically the reasons you want to hook up with people um and how to like it really like builds this foundation on like consent and um disclosures and all this stuff. It's great. I'm reading this now and I'm, and I'm getting horny and I'm like, okay, even me reading about hooking up is getting me horny. I don't,

I'm not saying that like I'm in, I'm like enacting, I'm acting on my sexual vitality recently, but I've been horny. You should read this book and maybe it'll get you horny. I'm surprised that love life didn't get you horned up. It literally, there were some scenes in it which were like her getting railed. And I was just like, I really should be horned up right now. But I'm just like, good for her.

I'm so excited for her. Yay. Ordinarily, I'd be like, I gotta stop this to pump one out. I gotta stop this show. It's so sexy and horny. I got to pump one out oh my god you're being this is what I'm picking up from that

Sesame Street oh my god yes I was gonna say Sesame Street Barbra Streisand and Tim Platt pump one out he really is a good combination of Barbra Streisand and a muppet

or a sesame street character he look he's he's he's worked with um at the sesame street workshop oh i love him can we say sesame street is such culture i fuck it i mean we sound like shalewa sharp there's no uh there's no bigger sesame street fanatic than shalewa sharp i love that love that. Love that. But we love Sesame Street. Oh, are you kidding me? Me stuck at home on sick days not having cable? I was fucking 14 years old still watching Sesame Street,

still getting my kicks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Darling dear. Cookie Monster, name another legend. Cookie was one of the biggest icons of my childhood because he knew what he wanted.

Yes. He was unapologetic about it. But he wasn't antagonizing anyone. No. He was just like, I'm so sorry. I may see cookie. I have to eat it. Cookie?

He wanted it so bad. And he said, look, except me as I am. And if that's part of unity, seeing people where they are and cookie wanted a cookie. And cookie also was saying to the children, let's eat vegetables now.

And then two and cookie is, she has a point. She's an icon. She's a legend. She is the moment. I was going to say one more thing about Cookie Monster and I forgot. Well, she's blue. Well, she's blue. She's so good with kids. The kids love Cookie Monster.

The kids are addicted to Cookie Monster. And I just... i was singling out cookie monster there are other sesame street people that you love the grouch will stand the test of time stand the test of time elmo it can get a little much you can get annoying elmo steals the spotlight i think elmo can get very annoying and it and it's now we it. And now we said it. Big Bird is... Big Bird is stoner icon, chill icon.

The girls are vibing when Big Bird is around. Yes. Big Bird is a legend. Big Bird is a legend. She's an icon. She's a legend. She's a legend.

She is the moment. The moment. Now, come on now. Did you see the trailer, the little clip from Wendy Williams' biopic? Don't worry. It is the scene where she's dressed as the Statue of Liberty and has like a fainting spell.

Don't worry. It's that. Don't worry. The actress gives you Wendy. Don't worry. There is dramatic underscoring underneath it. It's clear this is a huge plot point in the film. I don't want anyone to worry.

I just didn't want anyone to worry about the Wendy Williams biopic. Don't worry. Wendy Williams, have you seen the, there's just so much good Wendy stuff. I mean, I'm just kind of I might be preaching to the choir, but you have to look up to our listeners and to my sister, Matt. But there's just so many good videos.

I've showed you the video of her walking out to the studio into silence and people, and then, and then like Wendy Williams with no sound. And then just what I think is so funny and it doesn't really make any sense, but have you seen the one where it's the Halloween show and they, she's there,

she's talking, she's doing hot topics, but they cut to a member of the audience who is wearing like a full-on like zombie mask that covers their entire head and it looks terrifying and when you must see the monitor from where she's sitting because she's talking she goes so anyway and then they cut to this audience member and it's a full zombie head they cut back to wendy and she goes and everyone knows what i'm talking about who's listening readers they go she goes, and everyone knows what I'm talking about. Who's listening readers. They go,

she goes, what was that? No, look it up right now. It'll take two seconds. Look up Wendy Williams. What was that? That's all I have to look up.

Yes. Wendy Williams. What was that? What was that? It's so funny. It's 8 seconds long perfect I hope I don't get an ad bitch YouTube is popping off with the ads lately it's really pissing me off

you have to get the extension that blocks the ad what was that wait I have to watch it again and you know what what was that And you know what? What was that? And you know what? What was that?

What was that? It's very... You know what it is? It's very similar. And I'm so glad we brought this back up last week when Trixie was on. But it's very... Break a leg. What did you say to me? What did you say to me?

I said break a leg. No, I'm not going to break a leg. I'm going to get the fart. That's what I'm going to do. That's what did you say to me i said break a leg no i'm not gonna break a leg i'm gonna get the fart that's what i'm gonna do did you see oh my god i guess i guess tiffany pollard said something transphobic and she had um this woman sage on her instagram live to like walk her through what she had done um it was really she had a moment this she had a moment this week i heard that she really like she was illuminated by something and that like it was like a it was an interesting moment where she like learned you know she you know she she's trying to take the right steps and she gave space on her instagram live to this um trans woman Sage who like really didn't let her off the hook she was like I want you to know I'm upset with you because what you did was transphobic

and this is I'm willing to come on here and have this conversation with you and engage with you because that's I think how we're all gonna get better but it's not really up to me right now to like accept your apology sure and Tiffany did a couple times did try to exonerate herself but you know this woman's age was very paced patient and overall i think it was a good discussion but i did i did watch the whole thing it was it was interesting to see tiffany pollard grapple with this she is someone who has a capacity to become president of the united states that and to course correct sort of in that way. Of course, you know,

we shouldn't be surprised that someone would push back. But it seems like, it sounds like overall the directionality of it is positive. It was positive. I mean, from where it was

to where it is, yeah, I don't exactly know what she did and I didn't, I think it's something that she did on her new reality show. But it seems like she was willing to start a journey, which is good.

That's great. Listen, Bo, another one in the basket. Another one in the basket. I was going to just do it again. I'm not going to break it. I'm going to get the part. That's what I'm going to do. Amazing.

What was that? What was that? What was that? It's very you. What was that? What was that? I mean, Wendy is an icon whenever she unraps a candy and says, you know, Tinashe is really getting into it with such and such.

Ah! Perfect. Nick Jonas. Ah! Priyanka Chopra didn't look so good at the emmys it's so funny when they cut to her audience now which is just like 10 people spread out wearing how you do in masks and they're just like nodding and clapping along and you can't see their mouth just their open open eyes eyes looking at Wendy like, mm-hmm. All right,

girl. Another one in the basket. I think that we should end this podcast the way that Katy Perry ended the 2020 election cycle. With this song. Do you ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind wanting to start again? Do you ever feel feel so paper thin like a house of cards that wouldn't blow from caving in? Do you ever feel already buried deep six feet under the screens and no one seems to hear a thing.

Do you know that there's still a chance for you? Cause there's a spark in you. You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine. Just as old and naive like the 4th of July. Cause baby, you're a firework. Come on, show them what you're worth. Make them go ah, ah, ah. As you shoot across the sky, ah, ah.

For more of that song, listen to Firework by Katy Perry on the album Teenage Dream. Bye. Bye. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show dudes on dudes we're spilling all the behind scene stories crazy details and honestly just having a blast talking football every week we're discussing our favorite players of all times from legends to our buddies to current stars we're finally

answering the age-old question what kind of dudes are these dudes? We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died

trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm NK, and this is Basket Basket Case what is wrong with me? a show about the ways that mental illness is shaped by not just biology swaps of different meds but by culture and society by looking closely at the conditions that cause mental distress

I find out why so many of us are struggling to feel sane, what we can do about it and why we should care listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.