Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Sisters" (w/ Aaron Jackson & Josh Sharp)

Episode Date: March 21, 2018

Listen up folks: it's time to finish Ru Paul's Drag Race: All Stars 3 the RIGHT way - by going through every single Queen with The Opposition's Aaron Jackson and Josh Sharp! This is the only Drag Race recap that matters; every other Drag Race recap is trash and doesn't respect the craft. And therefore, Aaron and Josh are able to lay into the Queens as if no one is listening!Did Trixie really deserve this? Do we even like Shangela? What do we think of Ben, Kennedy, BeBe, and Aja? What does this mean for Season 10? For All Stars 4? Are Arron and Josh the greatest return-guests of all time? Tell us in the G.D. comments!Not supporting your local drag queen? I Don't Think So, Honey!---LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Look over there. Is that culture? Yes. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. See, I'm making these noises for a specific reason. Why are you making those noises? For a specific reason as well. What are you saying? Are you as horny as me? Absolutely.

I'm so horny. I'm in a lot of pain i'm so horny i feel a tingle on my taint can i say something for real yes i got a new vape pen okay and the kind of weed i got gets me very horny it's an indica and i got indica and i forgot that that does that it's a body high high. It's a very like low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I got home the other night and I was like, uh-oh. That's fun though. It was fun. It was fun for me. Okay, good. Yeah.

What do you do? You know what? My sister might be listening to this. So what? You know, because I've been on the same sativa cartridge for like the last three months. I buy weed like once a fucking year. And on this sativa cartridge, it's not doing it for me.

So I, you know what? I'm looking to change it up. Okay. So anyway, well, anyway, I'm horny for another reason.

I'm horny for our guests. I'm also horny for our guests. And they're, I can't even imagine what would happen if I had some Indica in me right now. Oh my God. You just show them your world. I'd be showing them my world. By the way,

urban dictionary for my world it's your asshole yeah so when we so when you guys hear us say let me show you my world it means let me show you my asshole yeah so we have on two more two-timers with us isn't this funny we've really turned a corner and started inviting people on for two times and look you know and they are our closest i. I never coined the term. I mean, I never coined the two-timer club term for us. That was sort of foisted upon us by Brian Foss. Yeah.

Some people keep score. Some people keep score, and that's not us. We don't do that. But our two guests are really resplendent. They kind of got in on the ground floor. They are resplendent. They are respected. Yes.

Let's go to the credits. And they are respected. Respected. Come on, honey. You can see them as the two amazing correspondents on The Opposition with Jordan Klepper. It airs nightly. Nightly, baby. Except not on Saturday and Sunday, bitch.

So, yeah, weeknights. And they also host the incredible shows all around town a gay show for all people we will turn you gay do you host that or is that more of a community we'll get into it but they are just the

sort of the curators of all you know cis gay talent in this city I would say. Don't forget white. And white. So, please welcome our guests.

Sorry. Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson. I hadn't been invited in yet, but I just had to make sure the viewers knew we were white. We can't forget white. You can never forget white. Now, I have something to say on the tally and the times that just occurred to me. Because yes,

we are two timers. But if someone were to ask, how many times have Aaron or Josh been on the show? show you could say four oh for the live no i'm talking about there's two of us this is really okay so it's sort of like we've done four appearances aaron what do you think i think math was never my strong suit but i support everyone who loves it what was what was english honey okay yeah she can, yeah, yeah, yeah. She can spin a word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was good at English too. And that famously left me. For now, I don't know my words, but I do know my heart.

Right. It's one of my catchphrases. Isn't that funny? It's so funny. I love it. You guys all did theater? Not really. You guys all did theater?

Not really for me. We had a bad theater program at my little high school. Is that why you didn't do it? Because it was bad? Well, I mean, like, we didn't do plays. And Josh is sporty. And I was a little sportier then. And then when I got to college, I did comedy stuff. And that was like my

entree into performing. You know, I think we're very similar. I was like a funny boy who I think if there had been a better theater program, I did speech club. I did like speech and debate. Forensics. So I would do forensics, bitch. And I would do the funny speeches. Okay, is that what that's called? Forensics? Cause for me, forensics is the CSI.

That's forensic science. That's forensic science. Okay. Well, there you go. And I was a theater fag. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Now, Brad, but here's a big question, which I think, um, we're finding a lot of gays have in common. Um, who here did the morning announcements?

Oh, me. So I have a tragic story about that, which is that in elementary school, there was a time when they didn't regularly have people do morning announcements, but they would just like pick people sometimes when something special had happened. So my class had gone to the Linville Caverns. And so they were like, we want you to come and do the morning announcements and tell about your class trip to the Linville Caverns. So I was like, oh, my God, I'm doing like a whole thing so and for whatever reason at that time I in that way where you're like have latched onto some adult thing I thought Robin Leach's

Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous was funny so that was like a character I was gonna do and I was gonna like be Robin Leach talking about my class going to the fabulous Linville Caverns oh my god I had like a little I had like things planned and so I went to the office and I was like I'm gonna do this and they saw I had like a little box of shit to do because it was on video and they're like no no just like come on say hi which class and where you went and you're done and so i just did that and then i cried walking down the halls coming stifled at a young age see that probably scarred you in many ways probably actually i haven't thought of that in a while but yeah that that did occur that's when you got into sports and then

and then i played competitive tennis really tennis yeah i did tournaments but then i got i started to become a choke artist in high school and i sort of got worse is that when you're into choking or yes um i personally love tennis and that's the fact you play in high school never played i don't play anything um but i do love tennis i love to watch i find the men attractive and i find they're so hot women inspiring yeah and they have to squat in the shorts right up great legs yeah no the butts the tennis butts are soccer is the hottest of sports i think yeah but soccer you don't get to focus on an individual the way you do with tennis so while i agree that soccer players are generally hotter they're running around they're running amok you can't quite grab them whereas tennis

you're like i'm looking at him and him. I don't do that. You mythologize, bitch. I'm sinking in. I don't disagree, witch. I love what you're saying. And the men are hot and the women are inspiring. And what more can you ask of the genders? The two genders. That's actually rule of culture number 62.

In tennis, the men are hot and the women are inspiring. And those are the genders, bitch. Yes. Those are the two genders. You heard it here first from Bo and Yang. There are two genders. That's rule of culture number 63. There are two genders.

No, strike that. Strike that. Strike that from the record. There are amendments to the rules of culture. Absolutely. There must be. We've never had an amendment. Well, that's because we don't know what the fuck they are. But I think we have to announce them. Like, if like if we do want to let's say amend that rule that we just declared we would say amendment members whatever yeah number one number one so an amendment it has to then refer to a past rule basically and tweet something about it that's how that would just be

a new rule but numerically there's they don't correspond because so it's not like amendment six prime referencing rule six that's too much or that's too So it's not like Amendment 6 Prime referencing Rule 6. That's too much. Or that's too much. It's up to you. I can do a prime system. I can fucks with a prime system. I think Rafael Nadal has the best butt.

Yes. He has a great butt. But he's getting hurt. His legs are getting hurt too much. So you don't get to see it as much. When I was a young tennis player, not as much sexually, but sort of sexually, I was in Andre Agassi. Oh, I get that. I get it. But he was also just like a bad boy. And he was like fucking up tennis. young tennis player not as much sexually but sort of sexually i was in andre agassi oh i get that i

get it but he was also just like a bad boy and you liked he was like fucking up tennis jokovic i think is really very attractive i don't know her jokovic is um the number one player in the world maybe not at the exact moment but has been in recent times i'll look him up these are the moments you wish for brandon scott was gonna say Brandon Scott Jones is listening you opine for Brandon Scott Jones and he's burning that we're saying

the wrong he's literally in his head he's like he just lost on clay he's number two you know he knows he just lost on clay

he lost on clay oh wait what about Andy Roddick we like him Andy Roddick he was not the cutest but he's the one who banged the ball

into the clay and he dated Mandy Moore yeah which is fun which is very fun that's fun and gay very gay He was not the cutest, but he's the one who banged the ball into the clay. And he dated Mandy Moore. Yeah, which is fun. Which is very fun. That's fun. And gay. Very gay. It's gay to date Mandy Moore.

Wait, that is gay. It's gay, right? I think he's a closet case. Pete Sampras dated, oh, shoot. Me. This is really bad. Bitch, me. Okay, do you remember the love interest in Billy Madison, the blonde third grade teacher?

Yeah, she's gorgeous. Pete Sampras and her were married. Richard Wilson Sampras. Yes. So i loved that for pete sampras and so i was very honed in on him and that i also think it's gay to date the love interest of adam sandler and billy madison now wait i'm about to say something that i don't think is true but i think is warm ish to the truth okay which is that agassi dated like madonna brook Brooke Shields. Brooke Shields. That's who it was. They were married and he abused her. That's who it was. It's facts.

I don't know if it's true, but I think it's facts. Wait, I think they had an acrimonious divorce. I'm not sure if abuse was part of it. I don't think he was an abuser. I think he did drugs and she was like, I can't have this. McEnroe, I think, was an abuser. McEnroe's son is fucking insane on the dating apps. And I will-

He's on the apps? No, he's a big old fag. Oh's on the apps? He's on the apps. He's a big old fag. And look. Oh my God. Let's keep this on the record. I will say this. Go. He has tossed me around.

And. Wait. Actually. In bed? No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying on the apps. He'll be like, yeah, we should definitely hang out. And I'm like, cool.

And then. Flakes. Flakes. And then I hear from him like 18 months later. It's truly awful. I'm not for that. You need to put in your profile no flakes because of McEnroe's son. You're that guy.

Is he good? Honestly. He's very like. McEnroe-ish? I will say. Yeah, he's McEnroe-ish. I will say. I think McEnroe's handsome.

In the. Sure. In the very traditional mold of. His father. White gay attractiveness that I have you know tried to abandon well abs means hot which is wrong exactly well no he just has like a jawline I can't

even really picture him right now okay wait what's the hottest part of a body wow I think it depends on the person it so depends on the person okay so the hottest person you can imagine what's their hottest body part again I think it, because sometimes you're into like,

oh, this person is like classically like white and boy next door handsome. And then that guy, you might be like, ooh, look at his chest. Yeah. But then a lot of times I like like a slinky little heroin addict looking guy. And I'm like, I guess I like wrists.

You know what I mean? Like it just really does depend. I think it depends. I want to, again, wait, I just want to quickly apologize. I don't think brooke shields was abused okay he's a really good friend of mine so um yeah and i know i'll talk to her if you actually thought that and i do actually think you're wrong i know they had they had a tumultuous like there's been it was not good yeah sure and i think he did and we could be wrong i think he did i think he did he was a bad boy on

the record that he did drugs he was a bad boy. I think it's on the record that he did drugs. What were you saying? He was a bad boy. I was going to say, we have to tread lightly in this new era of accusations because we can't just fling them willy-nilly around the place.

Especially because everyone knows Las Culturistas is all about the facts. Absolutely. We're always accurate. We knew that Hugh Hefner was dead months before he died and y'all famously break a lot of abuse stories on the pod no I'll say one time you guys said everybody relax like this is not

factually accurate and it did like let me listen to it in a new way can we get that as a lens through which to hear the next what three hours? we don't know our words it was a release for me to be right we don't know our words no it was it was a release for me to be like I don't need to care about you know to quote B.B. Zahara Benet what language was that it was an emotion right

do you know what I mean honey it's whatever you're feeling at the time yeah this is what we're feeling at the time do not misconstrue them as factual absolutely I'm not even sure Brooke Shields is a human. Yeah, you're not sure. I know.

I'm sure because I've seen her, but you haven't seen her and therefore you're not sure. You think you're sure. That's valid. Here's what I think. Donald Trump might not even be president.

Wow. We haven't seen it. I haven't seen it in my eyes in the room. Wow. That's true. That's true. You know rule number

100 of culture? What? La ta ka ti ti ta ta. It's true. You know rule number 100 of culture? It's whatever you're feeling at the time. Look, now that we're on BB, let's get into it. We're here. This is sort of a little reunion because the last time Josh and Aaron came on, we discussed at length.

Not ad nauseum though, because no one was sickening. Oh, and Josh just- I just remembered I had my BB Zahara Benet shirt on. Is that BB? He did a reveal. As you see, the the text says all these queens are my sons which means she's the first winner we think and also is sort of throwing shade that maybe they look like boys it doesn't entirely make sense which is sort of her brand yeah now i gotta say just from a design perspective that t-shirt is almost all the way there except for that fucking tight face i hate it doesn't exactly look

like her i don't think it looks like i think the face is right i think i agree it's for me it's the text it's a little off but maybe that's her handwriting if you told me that was a bob shirt i'd be like oh it's like a not good bob shirt wow you know what i mean it's like no it's not racist i think it looks a lot like bb to me listen i just bought flights to berkeley to see bob as belize and angels in america which means i'm not right you did you spent money i'm a freak for angels i think i'm a freak for angels in america bob is working out for angels he's looking pretty snatched oh he's at the gym every day but what are you gonna do you're in a play horrible you have to work out back to all stars you know who's looking good chichi devane oh yeah wow love the new hair and love the new

hair shirt this is love we have to get it we have to break down every single thing okay we just would okay just let's all agree we will in the podcast till we break down every single thing absolutely so granular so, we're talking about All Stars Season 3 this episode. Right. And we've now been given a winner.

Right. And the winner is Trixie Mattel. Trixie Mattel. Add another, you know, white blonde to the All Stars Hall of Fame. Is Alaska,

I guess she's a blonde. Yeah, by the way. I would say, I thought that too for a second, but then I was like, I really don't think it matters. I don't define Alaska by her too for a second, but then I was like, I really don't think it matters. I don't define Alaska by her blondness.

No, I'm just saying we're going to see that tableau for the next two years or so. Maybe you're lucky. We might see it again in the fall. I think that it's even more of a reason to give All-Stars 4 to Shea Coulee. I think Shea has a strong chance.

Or Kim has an incredible chance. I don't think Kim is well-rounded enough to win RuPaul's Drag Race. No, I think Kim can and should win. I fear that her narrative has been told. Because she did fucking slay in a way that it's like, what new can she do? She hasn't come out to mommy yet.

She has not come out to mommy yet. Either that happens or she comes and she's like, I learned to tap. And we're like, what the fuck, Kim? Okay, what if coming out to your mother. It's either that happens or she comes and she's like, I learned to tap. And we're like, what the fuck? What if coming out to your mother is a challenge in all stars for Tim wins it. Cause no,

I think if Kim is there, she can win. That's interesting. That way. Can I say that's very, that's really good TV. Ladies. Today's challenge.

Actually calling your mother on the phone and coming out to her. Wait, can I full drag? Can I offer an idea upon that idea? What if the challenge is every contestant comes out to Kim Chi's mom? Oh, I like that. Or they all tell her that Kim Chi is gay. Okay.

Okay. What if everyone, but what if Kim Chi isn't on the season and the challenge is out Kim Chi to her mother? Yeah, in a creative way, like a promposal. But it's like throwing each other under the bus moment forget it we're not just eliminating each other we're ruining everyone's life and it's all bts one take and it's like bts now that was a gag jessica wild you're the winner of this show i will tell you this i cried watching the challenge oh okay so we're talking about the finale we're talking about the finale.

We're talking about the finale. Okay, so the finale was a BTS one take Grease Live. It was fabulous. Can I ask what BTS means? Behind the scenes. Okay, thank you. I also loved the challenge. I cried on Shangela's verse. I was like, she deserves it. Shangela's verse.

I got the whole world saying, Hallelujah! I was like, she does. And she's been here for such a long time. And then world saying, hallelujah. I was like, she does. Yeah. And she's been here for such a long time. And then for her not to win, I was like, oh man. Right.

And I am, I'm a, um, I don't like Shangela. I'm not a, but I thought she did a great job in that verse. And I'm shocking that she wasn't in the final two. It is shocking.

What I'll say, as I said after last season, and this is not necessarily to you, but probably is to the queens at home. The only rule is that Rue makes the rules. Right. So don't get mad that she kept making them. And here's the thing.

You can say all day Shangela should have won, but it's like the game is just Rue does whatever the hell Rue wants. And I'll say about Shangela. Which is what I love about the show. Right. She's certainly gotten better at drag. That's undeniable. But if you'll remember in season three,

she was fucking, she was so annoying. And if it's like up to queens to vote it's like i don't i think she's probably annoying right that's what i imagine annoying but did you ever watch untucked season three oh i didn't watch on she was a lot she's a psych she's a psych she's a psych and so i would believe that she has those experiences in the flesh with queens like when she freaked out about the note The Thorgy note. I bet that happens backstage of fucking Mickey's every weekend

with some other queen. And so I would believe that when they were voting, all of them were like, Shangela, you're so good while they wrote down Kennedy. Because she is fabulous, but I could imagine

that a bunch of people were like, you drive me crazy. I mean, here's my rebuttal and this might feel circular. My rebuttal to Josh's point about Rue makes the and this might feel circular. Your rue-buttle. My rue-buttle to Josh's point about rue makes the rules. There's no rule except rue makes the rules.

Well, then that sort of completely, for me, delegitimizes the title or the crown. But I think the show has always been that. I don't care if it's meant to be legitimate. That's what I think. I think RuPaul's Drag Race regular seasons, it should be legitimate. And I think they're heading down a dangerous path.

While I thought the finale of season nine was fucking amazing, I thought it was, especially to put that season, to put the lip syncs front and center, I thought was genius for that season. However, moving forward, I don't think it's necessarily

the most legitimate way to decide a winner. I do think Sasha Velour won season nine, but it's tough to say if sasha hadn't been there or done what she did it'd be tough to give it to say peppermint over fucking shea or trinity i mean they just did better in the competition peppermint went out there in some outfits that were bad which usually means then rue doesn't pick you but if rue has some reason to pick you them's the rules right this is how every episode of the show has been since the beginning which is what i love about it what i do think is we've crossed a place where it used to be that she

was sort of dragging a reality show in a way where it's like i am really doing a reality show but i'm also sort of mocking it the idea that this is a show that's decided by nothing other than rue going you two fight for me i've decided you like there's no external rules at all is hilarious. But now we basically fully pushed into a space where we just treat it like an actual reality show that should have rules. Right. And I don't know that that's what the show ever was.

But I think the show is- But the show has sort of changed to that in some ways. I was gonna say the show has sort of gone out of this zone of being like a parody of itself. Like it is starting to take itself too serious I think that all stars is different than RuPaul's Drag Race I think all stars is not meant to

be taken seriously I think the Hall of Fame is fake I think that you can call them a winner whatever but RuPaul's Drag Race is real and all stars is for your entertainment to quote judge this season Adam Lam Judge this season, Adam Lambert. Okay.

I loved Adam Lambert. That was great. So beautiful. I think that the lip sync was fun for season nine. I bet he'll change it again someday. That's what I think. They'll probably do it for 10 or maybe even 11 and then be like, okay, this is boring.

You know, just like they started doing the live show. But I do think you're right. Season nine, and I don't know how much this was produced in advance or was just a lucky thing became a season about the lip sync 100 so it made so much sense to redeem it i know but it like did thematically make sense in a way that i i could see them doing something else with season 10 just because that felt so tied into the narrative what i want to say is i can't believe every fucking queen this season knew and they all had to keep it quiet because they were all there.

Well, they filmed two winners. Of course. Right, right, right. But that's still a lot. Usually you see, I guess you know the final. They shoot Kennedy winning and they shot Trixie winning is my understanding of what happened and then they showed I take it back. Trixie winning. I assume Trixie

knew she won when the episode aired. Right. It's boring. I mean, not boring. Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she didn't watch it. Maybe she went to bed and she's going to wake up in the morning to a bunch of texts. Truly boring that it was down to two season seven queens, but also it doesn't really matter. I don't think it's boring. I mean, like, look, the whole season

was boring. It wasn't more boring or less boring. I thought that it would have been more interesting to watch it be Shangela versus Trixie because they were the ones that were there. I very much agree. Okay, but wait. But what I believe is that Rue wants Trixie to win. And so it's like they

made a bunch of moves for Trixie to win. But we were talking about this. Bindeliquids and then you find a way to get Shangela out of the top two, then it's like there's no case to be made other than Trixie wins. Bowen and I were saying we think and tell me if you agree, that it's more interesting for Trixie and Katya to not

have won. Runner up, you have the runner up sex appeal. Totally. Like a raven, two-time runner up. You have the, oh, they never got it, but they're cooler. Like Alyssa. Alyssa. Not even as a runner up. No, no, no, but if Alyssa had won,ssa. Alyssa. Not even as a runner-up. No, no, no.

But like, if Alyssa had won, we'd be like, actually, she kind of sucks sometimes. But Alaska was that, and then Alaska won, and didn't change anyone's opinions

on Alaska. Alaska is like, truly, I think she's in a league of her own. Totally. It's like her and Bianca and like a couple others are like, well,

they're like a step above. But with Trixie, it's like, oh, she's the third all-star, but also, she's 0 for 4 on lip syncs. Like, how does that work? Well, not anymore.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, 1 for 5. Well, who did you want? You wanted Shangela, don't you? I'm talking to Matt. For me, I wanted Shangela, yeah. Who did you want? I did not care for Shangela, but in this episode,

the build-up was such that it was. But what did you want in your heart, not by? Bebe, Bebe. Me too. Yeah, me too. And now. Bebe, Bebe. Me too. Yeah, me too. And now that like. Bebe. Trixie is who I went in wanting

and then it just like, I was like, it doesn't matter to me anymore that you win. And then I wanted Bebe. Bebe was so funny. And then they tried to give her this smear campaign in this lap episode. And it was like,

give me a break. She's fabulous. They did a hip job on Aja. I'm still mad about that. I need to go up to the person who started this Bebe is a mole bullshit. I love it. Slap them in the face because it took away from my experience of enjoying BB.

Can I say something today that I said to Aaron, which was that thinking back on that, like, imagine that was true. And imagine the moment in the show where BB breaks to them that she is the mole. Like, imagine her trying to even explain it to them. That's how we should know that it never would have happened. You have to see that I, I've been watching you. now and they're like what have you seen that the cameras didn't see but i i can read your i am the mold i'm the mold it's like yeah but there's cameras everywhere and producers know everything but i am the mold but i mean no i'm the mold it logistically it it logistically imagine her trying to explain it it never made sense from the jump which is why

it was so stupid to even commit time thinking about because it never made any sense like what but when the cameras can see everything and rue sees everything already as the executive producer like what does she need bb well that's what i love too also when people were like rue was shocked when bendelist center says no fucking rue saw her do it and was like, yes, bitch, do it. Hell yes. Okay, wait. Should we go queen by queen and talk about how we think they did? Yeah, let's do that.

That's fun. That's really fun. She's a structure queen. She's a structure queen. I just think we're here, we're there, we're there. We're talking about this episode. We don't get to go through the moments. Let's go through the order of elimination.

So Morgan. Morgan. Factor in some room for tennis talk in case it comes up. Absolutely. Yeah. I will say, we'll go around. Morgan. Let's go through the order of elimination. So Morgan. Morgan. Factor in some room for tennis talk in case it comes up. Absolutely. Yeah. I will say, we'll go around.

We'll go around. My final word on Morgan. Yeah. You know, she will get, she'll be selling more tickets to Mickey's in West Hollywood.

Tickets are flying off the shelves to go see her stand around and be a bitch at Mickey's. In that back room. Guess what, honey? She didn't show any other talents because guess what honey she is just a good drag queen this is this this season was good for mickey's sell more drinks mickey's yes morgan mcmichael's not a world

tour drag queen this has been another segment of matt rogers my final word on morgan that's my final word on morgan post's my final word on Morgan. Post it up at Mickey's. You're selling the tickets, bitch. For me, Morgan, I was glad to have her back. I love when they bring back an old, and I don't mean old age. I mean, old school queen.

Wow. Like I love a BB. I love a Morgan. I love a Tatiana. But I think she's just not good at drag race. She's just not. She's not good at drag race. No.

That's okay. Not versatile. Not versatile. She's a very basic drag queen. And she's good at being a basic but you're right she's mickey's you're gonna get your turn bitch oh i'm sorry fuck you stop it i'm sorry stop doing this so um i'm sorry all i'll say is that i think yeah morgan was trying really hard to be good at reality tv did not read no um and that's all i have to say josh i you know i just agree with my sisters so much here i think you've all said everything no okay i have another idea i think she's basic and we go

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She just came off as so petty. She came off, well, I don't, yeah, a little petty, but also just embittered, which like, you know, not a good look, but like, listen, famously I've had dinner with her. I love Thorgy. As a performer in the bar scene. And just as a person, she's just a cool person. Went to her birthday shows with Oscar back in the day.

She was painted as a duck. She had a duck face for her birthday. It was fab. She has an amazing lip sync that she does of someone leaving, a pharmacist at CVS leaving a prank, prank delivery, prank like prescription

refill notification of we have your micropenis medication and it's so funny. Not that, not that, you know, phallic size is funny,

but just like the whole. That is what you said, Aaron. So that's all. Again, I'll say Thorgy in the bar scene, one of my favorite queens yeah and this okay so this is a call to arms for the listeners at home you gotta go see your

little you have to go see one thing yeah it's one thing it doesn't mean you're bad at drag if you're bad at that show yeah if you are on the internet with a hot take about drag queen and I know you've never seen drag live I do not listen I don't care you don't know anything and you don't know you don't know anything thor at a bar and you're having the time of your life and i do think she did come across as embittered they probably put every single time she mentioned bob the drag queen on the show and she probably mentioned her four times but they put them all like it's like she's obsessed it's like they're probably like and what about bob and she answers the question she's like he's fine they're like could you do it where you say his name just for clarity exactly so it's like i I think it's cruel and unusual.

But I don't think she sang, you know. And also, I thought her. She should have sang. I thought her fiddle playing cartwheel was a gag. It was a gag. No, I don't know. It was a gag. You can say no.

But if you were in the gay bar, you'd be pulling down your panties and throwing them right at her. It's like Detox's Blue Man Group, bitch. Not if she made a face at you that was like. Yes, you would. You'd say, me too! I relate! Wow. Okay. Well, I would say I think that I love Thorgy, but I really thought that my sisters really answered every question that really could have been talked about Thorgy.

So I think that we're just gonna move on. Feeling Thorgy. We're gonna go this way, and he's gonna talk about milk. Here's the thing. I did a gag for Milk's look on this episode with the lacy eyelashes and the lacy lip but also... Pretty interesting.

But that's the thing. It's like on such... The veneer cracks so easily with Milk's like compelling factors in drag. It's like oh, you just tap the brulee surface and then everything underneath is like just just too gooey just too gooey i don't get it and it's not for me i only want

the crust you know what i'm saying i want the crusty milk okay josh sharp it was a bad look it was a bad look for miss milk you know it's just like you can't be disconnected from reality so the cognitive dissonance frequently it was a mess milk how much of that stuff was also like a producer see i'm always willing to consider that but yeah but no i did feel a little remorse from her in the bring back episode when i when she started crying because i was like i think you do not know this stuff and you should probably know this stuff but i see how in this in your shoes right now you are being bullied because you're like i don't know it i didn't know i was mean and everyone's just telling you you're mean i don't really feel sympathy but i was like i i i

get where you're why you feel bad there was one you need to learn there was one moment in the bring back episode where she is talked she refers back to the season six hip hop challenge. Right. And they cut to her and they're talking to her. And she was like, I was most definitely the best. Cognitive dissonance. But then. She was being sarcastic. Yeah.

But then her lip curls a little bit and you're like, oh, she's in on this. So that's what I'm, that's what I'm like struggling with. Like, I mean, milk is like just a little, a little nutty,

nutty milk. Miss Milk is nutty. Almond milk. Almond milk. I want to take the floor. Okay. I think that Milk is more in on the joke than everyone knows. However, I do think that Milk is an emotional person who is affected a lot by stimuli emotionally.

Yeah. I think that Milk is quick to a tear. I think Milk is a laugh away from a tear. Okay. And I think that Milk is quick to a tear. I think Milk is a laugh away from a tear. And I think that Milk is very fun. And I think if you saw Milk perform with all her gadgets and gizmos. A plenty. Wherever.

Gadgets and gizmos a plenty. Whosets and whatsits galore. And I've been gagged for some Milk looks. You want thingamabobs? She's got 20. But who cares? No big deal. It's Milk.

It's Miss Milk, honey. I want Trixie. Honestly, I thought that Milk was a bizarre choice for all stars, but it was fun. It was fun drama and fun to watch for a little while and touch the fashion change your life. I would love to say that my sister said everything, but I don't think they did. I think Milk is a good example of um

how if someone is not in the kkk they can still show white supremacy so here is someone who is like i never know i'm hot i never knew i'm white and tall i didn't know and it's like yeah this is this is like being rewarded for mediocrity there you go and then you're suddenly being like wait we don't like you and it's like but you do I'm hot what do you mean you don't like me I'm a hot boy a hot boy hey Kennedy I think

your drag is worthless what do you mean you don't like me I'm crying so I think it's just like this is a good example if you needed to show someone. They're like, I don't think that that person is a white supremacist.

It's like, right, they're not burning crosses. But they're benefiting from a system. A system. They have no intention of rebuking. And I think it's a thing

where it's like, I don't mean, like, whatever. I think some of her looks are cool on Instagram, but it's one of those things where it's like, look up Imp Kid on Instagram.

Imp Kid. That is a cool drag. And everyone's like, Milk is so subversive where it's like, look up Imp Kid on Instagram. That is cool. And everyone's like, Milk is so subversive. It's like Milk puts tape on her face and wears boy clothes and we're like, drag! And I love that. I love gender fuck. But it's also like, she's not like, Imp Kid is like, oh my god.

She always has a POV with every single look. Where you're like, I've never seen anything like this. You're the weirdest fucking thing. And people are treating her like she's Acid Betty or something. She's just like doing gender fuck which is very cool but it's not like you're not changing drag for me in the way that I think she gets a lot of credit for which I think is people jerking off

to her pics thank you yeah for sure I don't think that milk and I say this with a lot of love with a grain of milk and none of these are facts I don't know if milk is an all-star. Milk doesn't look the way he looks. If milk is quote-unquote ugly,

how does that butterfly effect do we bring it back? I thought milk was good in the Kitty Girls. Milk was good in the Kitty Girls. I don't want to talk too much about milk. I like... I've enjoyed some looks you know what i mean i feel like there's a world where we all meet milk and have a great fucking

time you know what i mean that world exists we're one degree away from milk well she was at julius the other night i'm friends with friends of ours you know i that makes me anxious um okay we're gonna we're gonna start we're gonna talk about miss chichi okay we're gonna start with aaron jackson so ch, obviously fabulous. Didn't do a great job on the season, but was the fault of the show. She should not have been in the bottom in that Patti LaBelle challenge. She should have been in the top.

I don't know about that. The top was who? It was Bebe? No, it was Bebe. It was Bebe as Diana Ross and it was Shangela as Mariah. It was the two with the best scripts. And Ben.

Ben and Shangela had the best scripts. Bibi, I thought, did a great performance. But I also thought Chi-Chi did a great performance. It was the best original screenplay Oscar. Yes, exactly. And so I think Chi-Chi then became a self-defeating prophecy after that episode. And they were never going to let her win. And that was the moment where I was like, oh, she can't win.

She did a great job. And they put her in the bottom. She should have at least been safe. Milk was garbage in Celine Dion. I agree that that should have been bottom three instead of Chi-Chi there.

What are you talking about? And Chi-Chi, they were laughing their asses off the whole time. For Chi-Chi, it's like, I wonder if the producers were like,

let's give Chi-Chi another underdog narrative for this time because we've seen her do it before where she's risen above and I think it just didn't work. I was shocked that it wasn't better this season from Chi-Chi another underdog narrative for this time. Right. We've seen her do it before where she's risen above, and I think it just didn't work. I was shocked that it wasn't better this season from Chi Chi because there has been a couple years for her to get better.

I know people that have seen Chi Chi perform as of late and say that Chi Chi absolutely fucking destroys. In fact, I was saying that I was positive the top two would be trixie and chichi i thought that chichi had a chance to win when you see the top 10 like i don't know i thought that chichi was going to be so much better it's bizarre to me that she still hasn't like claimed um her full stardom yet but i guess you know i forget where she's from it's tough it's hard well chichi's

the anti-milk and that she did a bad job and knew she did a bad job which i love was frankly just like girl you know what that was i love that iconic i love that because also i don't know because i don't even think she did a bad job she did a pretty good job every week i don't want to be the roxy i think there's a little bit of bendala beating a dead horse i think there's a little bit of bendala in a chichi who's probably just like i don't want to do this like i'm not good at this she's just self-aware you put me in the club i will kick and twirl and do a split for you and you will be fucking gagged yeah but now you're telling me i gotta sew a thing and be in a bachelorette challenge like i just don't want to do it just because you're bad at drag race does not mean you are bad at drag no it doesn't mean that at all

call to arms go to bars and see your local queens uh bowing the final word on chichi um you know what my sisters have said everything okay so i guess that means we're gonna start with me and hot as a boy chichi hot and again confession look was so good even hotter confession look i would give it to bb zahara bonet i loved yeah you're right you're right you're right well um i guess it's my turn to start talking about miss aja queen yes bitch i love aja aja is on fire go off she has amazing talent She has an amazing look. She has an amazing spirit. She has an amazing new music video. Finish her off, honey.

Finish her off. I will say this right here and now, that devil look was a gag. I loved it. I loved her horns. I wonder if she made them. I thought her makeup was wonderful. That kind of white face and the white hair

and the rest of the red. Go off, Miss Aja. I think that Aja was given the second rawest deal yeah in the competition the first the first being shangela for not winning sure oh so that's my opinion on asha that was a hit job on us it was a hit job on us a hundred percent here's why i'll say it's even a bigger shame than shangela because at least they get basically like we've said before like made a system where like the queens vote it's like i'm sorry shangri-la but they voted asha was just like they built a totally false narrative for why she did so that they could send her home which is like what are you talking

about before she was crystal abate and then the and then they were like you don't know your references the week she went home you don't know your history it's like an obnoxious thing also ruby and like uh the 70s weren't that long ago yes they were bitch yeah they were over 40 years ago actually her look wasn't that far off and then she tweeted like just so you all know i'm having people that were at studio 54 tell me that they wore similar things yes you know what some fucking cutting edge queens probably did wear that in the 70s and about the 80s people were like oh we should dress like them yeah remember that hoe at 54 three years ago yeah i don't know i didn't like that i also thought her soup they were like you're not sweet you're spicy i was like yeah but like her aesthetic

image is sweet and you know what you know what a stupid challenge your challenge wasn't good it was you know the word it was stupid it was so bad you can't you can't even give her a read for how she did your bad thing yeah no you know the word i have i have the dumbest thing for you to do right now be a soup i have the dumbest thing for you to do right now do it for me you look dumb yes i know you made me do a dumb thing oh you're not sweet you're spicy i'm also not a can of fucking soup you dumb idiot i also just episode branding these branding challenges make me laugh. So bad. I know they only

work when they do the like political stuff. Yeah, I know. I love that. That stuff is really fun because it's elevated.

The fragrance challenge. Yes, or make a damn commercial. Make a thing. Sell something. I'm just so interested to see them like with the

graphic designer. Like, like, that's what's crazy. Put a gradient on that. Yeah, like, okay, I want,

no, wrong font. Like, it's so weird like that's what that challenge was like are you good at graphic design thoughts on aja okay aja queen i love her i love that she is both smart and stupid she's very high low she said the words um i'm thinner i'm skinnier i'm more beautiful uh when she was talking about milk at a drag show once um oh I did have a very cogent thing to say about her oh go off I loved love that in this finale episode

during the deliberation she was asking questions like a fucking recruiter she was an HR bitch and you know what else then and through the whole season Aja was us yes they would cut to Aja going like every time I went yeah like they always showed Aja being like. Yes. They would cut to Aja going like every time I went yeah.

Like they always showed Aja being like what she was a correct narrator. She was a good narrator. She was reliable. Reliable honey. And she got you remember that

when Bindala sent herself home Aja came out looking real good when she was like Miss Bindala sent herself home. I don't know if that's a good look Miss Bindala. Like she was like she said Bindala Christ right? Bindala Christ and gave this very prescient thought of like I don't know if that's a good look. She said Bendel of Christ, right?

Bendel of Christ. And gave this very prescient thought of like, I don't know how good of a looks like it's going to be. Yeah. Well, she was kind of like speaking to both outcomes. She was like, I don't know if that's going to look good or bad. Right. Which is actually a really smart thing to say.

That's what I'll do if I'm ever wanted to be. I don't know if this is good or bad. Thoughts on Aja? One quick Aja thing. This is, my sister said everything I needed to say, but one time at Ace Hotel and I wasn't there, I've heard the second hand, but that's how good it was.

There's a projector and she climbed up to the projector and death dropped off the projector in the Ace Hotel. So she has always been the bitch. She's always been the bitch. So like when everyone was like, is she going to fall from there?

I was like, yes, bitch. She's fallen from a projector from a ceiling. Yeah. She climbed her ass up. She's as dumb as she is smart yeah i love that so i just want i want the children to know about that thank you all right moving to ace hotel we are going to talk uh to josh sharp now about miss bendela cramp okay now i came in and

aaron can attest to this saying my one thing for the season was that i wanted to well i wanted chichi and aja to be redeemed and I think they both actually sort of happened in very different ways right I still was like Chi Chi I love you for being you and Aja you're a true queen the other thing was I wanted to get Bendala because Bendala in her season I was like you're good but I don't get it and right away she did it I was like you're fab I get it

I would now go see you live and previously I wouldn't have been excited to go see you live I did think when it happened the sending yourself home I was a major eye roll at, but it was a thing that three days later, I was like, oh, nevermind. I don't care. Yeah.

I know I'm not the last person yet, but I think so far my previous sister has said everything, except that I do think Ben, I genuinely believe that she did, it physically hurt for her to send people home but i also think there is i still can't get over the fact that she did throw a grenade back in in the form of morgan but that was her way of like sanctimoniously being like i washed my hands of this there's no blood on these little things and uh oh one more thing that she um like the one

question in interview she hasn't really been able to like work an answer around has been well what about the winner of this season having an asterisk over their like over their title and ben's just like still hasn't figured out a way to tactfully answer that so he doesn't need to though i guess but you should just say no they won fair and square. Yeah that's what she is saying. The best statistic queen statistically performing queen in the whole series. Yeah I thought

Ben was a slay. She's a little Anne Hathaway as you two have pointed out to the masses. She is very Anne Hathaway. I will give credit to Matt. It was me. I love it and I think it's a little but also I think anna hathaway is a slay and how the way to go off all of you need to just shut up and take part of dark knight rises and i was okay yeah i watched 45 seconds of princess diaries the other

day on tv and she's a fucking slay she is a slay come on all male directors why didn't you watch more than 45 seconds because I changed the damn channel thank you for saying all male directors come on that's a slay that was Natalie Portman

though you little bitch I don't care you're racist I'm racist well I have to say that Angela Krem was a slay that Anaconda lip sync

between her and Aja was the best of the season yeah you're right oh my god you are the first was the best of the season. Yeah, you're right. Oh my God, you are. The first was the best. I mean, here's the thing. That was so good.

The top two for me in terms of they were the best on the season, the top three, top four, should have been Aja, Ben, Shangela, and Bebe. Thank you. 100%.

So the top two of the season were not even in the top four for me in terms of achievement. Right. But I do believe that. But outside of that, I think my sisters have said everything that I could possibly say. I love that.

That's amazing. Now we'll start with Aaron this time. Yeah, let's start with Aaron this time. And it was Morgan again. We don't need to talk about her. We didn't talk about Morgan. No, but we will talk now about... Oh, are we final four?

No. Yeah, we're final four. Yeah, yeah, yeah, BB. Okay, so BB, to to me is the winner i think the queen stays queen to me she she really was so good everyone is talking about how like oh she was fine she was consistent she it's like yeah and she was fucking great consistently fierce and then like when she slayed she slayed the game and she Yes. So unique. Have you ever seen anyone like Bebe? Oh my God.

Yeah. I'm pushing bitch. She's classic drag, but then she's also like a fucking weirdo. Yeah. So it's like, it has the taste of Kennedy where it's like,

I'm giving you like, I'm walking the runway, I'm fierce, but also like, what the fuck is this? Like, what is she about to say? Yes.

And I think, I'm totally gag. Also think, and I think she's one of the best just like clean lip syncers she needs no gimmicks she's just like look at my eyes

look at my lips yes she's very good die yes and I did every time I can't believe

that she lost that lip sync well that was because they wanted Ben to send herself home yes but like it was just such garbage anyway

and I watched season one because I'd never seen it and I finally watched it right before All-Star Stadium. How is it? It's so good. Really? And she's great.

Okay. She's great. And she's maybe not the one, like, that's a very, like, Angina was robbed. Or fucking Nina. Nina Flowers. But to me,

the final three was Bebe, Nina Flowers, and this wonderful queen named Rebecca Glasscock. And she just, like, me the final three was bb nina flowers and this wonderful queen named rebecca glass cock and she's just like doesn't know left from right but um the two of them it's very much like uh oh she might not have been it would be a tricksy shangela where you're like she's not my favorite but if she won i understand so bb you didn't even think was the head and shoulders winner in that season season one i thought to me she was top three top

three i think should have been bb nina and um is rebecca on china oh and and and then it's sort of like on china probably should win but sure i'll take bb or nina and then i think between bb and nina you're not mad about either in my opinion yes and this is watching it years later knowing she won yes but i loved her anyway that's all i think bb i and that's the only way you could have watched it aaron so don't.B. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait for every confessional, every moment. I couldn't wait for B.B.

And when people were like, I'm bored by B.B., I was like, then you are boring. Yeah, you're boring. As Cher said, keep your eyes open, bitch. Keep your eyes open, bitch. Yes. B.B., yes, really changed me.

Yes. No, truly. Because in a way, I thought... was no truly because in a way I thought we are not in an atypical way I thought I can see myself on screen wow in an atypical way in the record

we were all represented yeah I'm pussy bitch ooh la la la la la la c'est bon c'est bon you can take my snatch drag it up wheel it up give me more bring it to the ball I was like, thank you for saying what I have been trying to say for years. And yet at the same time,

you spoke for me and yet at the same time, you surprised me and I learned. I learned. Yes, you gave my voice voice and you let my ideas take wings. And yet still I was surprised. I can take your snatch? Yes. I never saw that coming.

You can take my snatch. And what can I do with it? I'm just getting used to having it. And then you're telling me I can roll it up. I can drag it up. Wheel it up. I can wheel it up, I mean. I can drag it.

I can take it to the ball. You've only just now got it not only that i'm still gagged for gringotts not only that but yes yes that to know that the emotion at the end was not even just laughter not even just laughter wild yes jungle laughter. You all need to understand that you haven't even become an adult if you haven't gone to B.B. Zahara Benet's YouTube channel and watched Cameroon, watched Get Fierce,

watched what else? Camp Facing Beats. Fun Tonight. Fun Tonight. That Cameroon is a seven minute tour de force. Two minutes of it is just going. She's basically doing, she's giving you a precursor to Ratchatika Tata.

She goes. Unbelievable. It's amazing. The background singers and dancers, unbelievable. She's dancing in some public park in Minneapolis, just giving you life, making it pass for Africa. She's dancing in some public park in Minneapolis, just giving you life, making it pass for Africa.

It's amazing. And can we just say, too, the fact that she won the show and then never watched it again. Yes, bitch. Would you watch the show? No way. No. I respect.

I respect her up and down and sideways. Just because maybe she did watch it, but who remembers Ornisha if you're not on the internet? You know what I mean? It's like she's not on the fucking internet she has a dial-up modem yes okay wait who are we on right now now wait but one last thing about bb though

responds to you on social media yes what I want to say about bb josh is that I also think the show has not always done the best job about truly rewarding like old school Queens, just because they don't have the kind of flash and stuff sometimes to win challenges.

Death dropping off. BB was a great job of like showing you like, this is why an old school school queen is fun. It's valid. It's just fucking lip sync. You, you could just have the face. What's that play where that woman is buried up in sand up to her.

It's happy. No, it's Sam Shepard. um sam shepherd no no no it's happy days happy days i believe she's up to the waist yeah she's up to the neck i think i saw a video of fiona shaw i saw that live and i had a talk back afterwards bb should do happy days bb should be cast in happy days. Nothing beats her face. And they should say, just read the script once, Bebe, and then say back what you feel. Wow.

And I will say that you need to listen to Get Fierce. Get Fierce and the music video for that has a $2,000 budget. Yeah, it's crazy. But she makes it work.

She's so expensive. And who gave her that $2,000? No idea. Earned it in the club. Tips. She paid for that video in ones. In ones. And this is what I love about Bebe.

Speaking of her social media, and I will try to do my best to quote her tweet that she tweeted recently. I don't give attention or space or energy to negativity so please if you have something bad to say to me know that it will not be seen thank you like amazing what an amazing mindset on social media i love also that line will not be if you're curious know that you will be curious for the rest of your life i love it i love that she didn't tell i mean i want to know but i love that she didn't tell i hope it says it on her tombstone bb like i brought back thorgy yes

i also loved when all the other queens were like yeah but we all told and it's basically like why you told you you had to do that you didn't have to do that also the rules got changed the rug got pulled and she's like i'm not fucking yeah this was a small moment this is a small moment but later on like after that she said that she goes over to like her little dressing corner and she's going to take her shirt like off and she reaches into like her bra to like get the lipstick out because it's still there and she looks at the camera like oops i'm not showing you either you motherfucker get away from me i bet she swallowed it and did you love how every time she said out of respect out of respect for what for what for what out of respect i love her i think she

is the true winner of all true winner queen says queen well with that said how much would you spend for bb tickets 60 i was about to say yeah yeah, $50, but maybe 75. No, no, no. I'd rather die. It's an auction. I think she's the one I'd spend the most for,

which really means we're going to start talking about Shangela. Listen, Shangela, I think for me had like the sort of Ben de la creme season six, uh, a react reaction in me where, you know, I could tell she was competent.

I could tell she was good, but something about her rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't care for it until this last episode. That look. That final runway. That was red carpet. That was beautiful. We haven't seen it that much on the show done well

because either you can't go big enough with it or it just looks crazy. It looked fashion. It was truly beautiful. It looked amazing it was very the runway of the finale all-star season two i thought detox and roxy andrews were right yes thank you it was like that where you're like you're really you could go on the red you'd be on the oscars yeah absolutely so respect um that sort of came in especially during the the behind the scenes you know one, one take her verse.

Unreal. Unreal. That was very good. Such satisfying rhymes. I love Shangela. Don't stand for her, but love her. Shangela, for me, I'm not here to drag her into the mud. I think she's very good.

She is not my queen. And what I've been saying about Shangela is like, I've never seen anything from Shangela that I haven't seen on the show all that. Do you know what I mean? It's like, okay, okay cool a fat suit and you're not here to drag her it's like okay i've seen it i saw erin not here to drag her but i love all that i'm saying i still love those kids not here to drag her but she was giving you amanda bines age nine yes exactly that's what i feel like she is she's very and i feel like she's the one in class who like is getting the best grades but like the smartest kid is in the back and she's got you know like weird art in her desk and it's like that's the kid i care about but it's like

but shangles in the front she's answering all the questions and she has the best grades but it's like bb's in the back yeah dressed as a cat and you're like she's actually the best and that girl in the front who's getting the best grades is like hallelujah yeah and you're like she's actually the best and that girl in the front who's getting the best grades is like hallelujah yeah and you're like um so that's to me but i understand people that love shangela yeah but to me it's like i i would i if we're talking about what we'd pay to see her i would go for free

no i would i would i would pay money to see shangela and i think she's great if if she was at barracuda i'd be like oh fierce get my life. But I'm not walking into Barracuda. Is this a disgusting exercise of us to quantify? Yes. It is.

It's market-driven. And I want to tell all these queens, if you're listening, you can have all my money. You can have all my money. You're all more talented than me without even trying. That's true. Even milk. That's true of me yeah maybe not yeah wait but for me i shangela is my queen and i was team shangela i did retweet

that wow you're on record i i did a hashtag i'm on record yes that's your fucking fault bitch maybe i will just late unbelievable not my president listen i think that shangela did everything right i think she did the eliminations right i think she did the fashions right i think she did the challenges right she didn't do anything wrong i think hallelujah is funny there's for me what about it fuck you i just do hallelujah do you like i'm loving it do you like dilly dilly oh wait we have to talk about how the game of thrones

shit was horrible yeah yeah yeah horrible horrible and it was straight she's like that's I love game of thrones but it was

she started talking about Ned Stark you're not even talking about Daenerys you're talking about the boy characters who died in season one so then her allusions

to the characters were not good like like BB was not acting like Cersei. We're all gagged for that last look, but you talk about Game of Thrones four times every week and you don't give me a dragon on the runway. Yes, she should

dragons, especially she's coming out in snow globes. It's like she should have breathed fire and then a full dragon and I loved the last look, but she need to have a dragon on her. Yes, you're right. Absolutely. She's a crack an egg and have a live dragon would you have been team shangri-la well i would have said thank god we've been force fed waterboarded by game of thrones references imagine not watching game of thrones and fucking having to sit through that it's awful it was awful. Waterboarded. That's the title of that movie.

Waterboarded. Why can't it be, you stupid bitch? New CIA queen. New CIA queen. Waterboarded bitch. She loves to waterboard. Is she a gay man? No, but she's gravely mishandled some investigations, honey. She burned some tapes, babe.

Shangela's great, but she's also not my queen. What can I say about shangela that she hasn't said you know game of thrones came out of a box hallelujah you know where i feel like that her branding was just it's too much for me but i like her and i think she is good at drag yeah agreed she sat down one day probably and was like i'm gonna write a unified theory on myself right and half of it was just three bullet points yeah it was three bullet points i mean that was wild it was a lot it was a lot it was wild but matt we're gonna talk now no look i look i we have disagreement i think you agree game of thrones is why game of three

game of thrones is a little much but she needed to slit rue's throat to make it game of thrones to make that payoff that is really much how much pressure she put into it. You should have literally killed RuPaul on camera. But you say Game of Thrones... That's the only way it pays off. You say Game of Thrones that much, you're asking for a red wedding and that's none of them voting for you. Yes.

The jury did not vote for you. You got turned on by everyone. She got Robb Stark. Robb Stark, not Ned Stark. Talk to me about your feelings on Kennedy Davenport, Josh. Oh, I'm a long Kennedy apologist. Famously. Famously.

And I thought she did a fabulous job this season. Yeah. Where even the season that I liked her but apologized for her, there were things to apologize for. This season, there's not really anything I have to apologize for. I don't think she should have won, but I thought she did a fabulous job. And I think she's a really fun i have to apologize for yeah i don't think she should have won but i thought she did a fabulous job and i think she's a really fun narrator too yeah it's it's a slow narration it's a different energy oh it's a different but but i like it i like the drag race cut exactly when it comes to her sometimes and she's like i just don't eat and you're like

what is honey dripping off a spoon you know it's it's slow, but worth it. Fuck my drink. Oh, that's an amazing. Yeah, I agree. She should have a cigarette hanging out of her mouth at all times. Yes, absolutely.

I think, you know what? I'm just, this is my appraisal. Kennedy, not, not for ticket prices. I'm just saying Kennedy netted,

netted zero for me. Truly. Okay. Like just peaks and valleys all sort of came out to like you know a wash is that is that a saying yeah um so yeah she was great she was terrible you know whatever she she was but she wasn't that terrible i don't know i just i think kennedy had a hard time and this is probably the shows and the edits fault but like had a hard time presenting some more compelling narrative beyond just like getting salty sometimes about Ben. And, you know, like after Ben left, it was like, well, what's Kennedy's deal?

Yeah. So I don't know. The milk thing was really. The milk thing was good. Kennedy versus milk was fun. That was great. That was a fun. That was her episode.

Yes. Where she got to send milk. It was amazing. I think Kennedy is fierce. But again, it's like, yeah yeah i think she doesn't shine on the show she loves to fucking kick and twirl yeah have you seen her live i never lied but i've seen her live i want a kennedy double bill oh my god you would die you would die actually i do want to say one more thing before we move on i do love that whole part where she's like i just want people

to come up to me yeah And I think they will. I think they will, but I fucking love that. I was like, that's real. For me, Kennedy... How do I say? Kennedy just like... Go off?

No, I love Kennedy. I'm a long-time Kennedy apologist as well. It just was always funny to me when they do a challenge and they'd get critiqued and they'd go back to the room and she had the worst critiques and they said well who should go home and she would go well I did I know I didn't do bad yeah it's like okay yeah no one did bad but somebody did do the worst especially when you know there's six five four of us not anyone left you know we've all been given critiques and it's not about if you did bad it's just about you know who got the worst

critiques and who's pretty good almost like a tautological argument i know i didn't do bad it's like i guess you're right time well i didn't do bad and then and so if it was either that or like or like no i don't think we should go by the rules no i don't think we should go by the rules. No, I don't think we should go by who did the worst. I don't think we should go by who's been doing the worst. I think whoever's there at the end is there. Don't you wish she got... I was like, this is ridiculous. It would have been fun if she got in the top more

because she would have pulled some lipsticks and be like, okay, that would have been fun. I agree. She would have been like, bye, Trixie. I don't think she actually would have done that. No, no, no, I agree. But I think she's the one that's like, I don't care that you won last week. I feel like a lot of them were like, you just won.

And she'd be like, I don't know. You did bad. I don't like you. A lot of that whole MO stuff, her elimination strategy was just her covering her ass. Big time. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, yeah. So that's what I think about it.

But I think she's a lot. I'd love to watch her kick control control and here's a real controversial opinion she does katya deserve to go home that night i think a hundred percent no no she slayed katya and everyone says katya should have won no who says that everybody everybody everybody that's a little white supremacy again that is white supremacy even though it was a final three white. Saying that, saying that Kasia beat Kennedy in that lip sync is white supremacy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Now our new queen. We're now discussing our new queen. Trixie Mattel. Miss Trixie Mattel. Well, Trixie Mattel is obviously a wonderful drag queen.

And I think she also is one of those that's like, maybe not the best at drag race, but I think her journey to the end, it's very very survivor this season i will say where it's like survivor now there's a narrative on the show where it's like they didn't play the best game and it's like that did not used to be the narrative it used to be like they're here bitch and they and you're voting for them and they won and that to me was tricksy it was like maybe i didn't play the best game but like i'm standing at the end it's like I sort of found a way to win every week yeah and it's like and what do you think Trixie's not

a great drag sometimes winning was been to send herself home but I still won that I still won I still I made it yeah so I think like while it might not be the like the fairest narrative of the show it's like she's here and she won yeah Trixie I think that for

me it's just interesting that tricksy ends up winning not because i don't think she quote unquote deserved to win because you could definitely make an argument that she did and guess what she did and it is rue's decision and therefore she deserved to win because in the eyes of rue she deserved to win right and like you said before it started but that's here's my with that. So I think it's just interesting that there was so much discussion amongst the queens of who needed the title or who deserved the title. And they ended up giving it to someone who,

A, did not need it for their career, and also, B, did not do the best on the season statistically. So literally, they gave it to... They picked option C, and I don't know what that option was. Option C was it was always going to be Trixie, and so it is. Do you think the producers were like, and you'll be picking

Trixie's lipstick? And they're like, don't pick Shangela. I'm going to say something shady. I think that Trixie got paid a lot of money to even be on this season more than the other queens i think so they do that i think trixie's rate is higher and i i think that walking away from it like i don't know it's sort of a thing of like you have tea on that no i don't have any tea because i didn't even know if that's a thing the show does i'm sure

they have to pay them an appearance fee they're asking them to take three weeks off from their bookings like there has to be something i think but i would just bet none of them have that high of an appearance fee really so they probably get it all get like a basic tv right i think tricksy's on television already tricks on a vice land show yeah but it's more than kennedy oh i know i know i know i know but i'm just saying i don't know that her tv quote is high well i don't know and I bet and it's gonna be higher than the rest of them because rest of them's TV quote is zero but I bet they don't have to go like

damn we got to pay Trixie 15,000 there's only like but I could be wrong too I have no clue how that works there's only a total of like three drag managers and the whole industry and I can't imagine that and I'm one of them and I'm the other two I occupy two people I mean like I can't imagine that and i'm one of them yes and i'm the other two i occupied two people yeah i mean like i can't imagine that like there's such big disparities

in terms of like a rate to specifically go on drag race where that all feeds into like i bet that's the kind of thing where you're a man you're like ask him to give me more they're like it's drag race they don't give you more like they don't negotiate yeah maybe like you either just say no or you do it for this much money yeah yeah that's what i would bet i mean case in point they send a clown instead of bianca that was so funny you know what i mean i think like they're like bianca you'll do it we'll pay you 1500 bucks she's like that was funny that is like no i think that's the funniest thing we couldn't get bianca so we got a clown i mean that was so fucking i bet the clown got the same

damn right bianca would have gotten probably definitely i i just think it would be more interesting in the canon of the whole show i said before for trixie and katya not have to not have won because now trixie and katya show one of them's a winner and it's like they don't have they can't have that same like trixie that's the Trixie and Bob show lately. I know. Have you been watching it? No, I haven't watched it since it switched. I'm sure Cutty will be back. I think so.

But mental health issues. Seems like a very, you know, Coleman Drew narrative. And Coleman Drew, we love. And we hope Judy Darling comes back if she wants to. If she wants to. But for her journey. She did update her profile picture recently to her being in a dressing room with some woman. I clocked that as well.

I loved Judy Darling. I love Judy. Judy Darling, does she listen to the show? I don't think she knows Judy. Let's forward her this. Judy, we love you. Judy, we love you. Judy knows these ones.

I don't think she knows us. You are my favorite working drag queen in New York, babe. Judy, we love you. Babe. And Brita Filter. And Brita, of course. Yeah, how dare you? That's blasphemous to Brita.

No, I love Judy Darling. I stand for her. No, I love Judy, darling. I stand for her. No, I'm saying it's just really hard to listen to someone say best when there are so many hardworking girls out there. Go see your local queens. Go see your local queens. And in fact,

we actually just had some local queens on our I Don't Think So Honey Live. Yes. How'd the show go? It was great. Everyone will listen. Well, everyone was great. Everyone will listen. Everyone will listen. We haven't done it yet

at the time of recording but by the time this releases it will. Babe, I was playing the like space and time game there. And so am I

but in a different narrative. Yeah, you're on a lot of moxie. Don't forget none of these are facts. None of these are facts. None of these are facts. We love drag is what we're saying.

We love drag. And what about thoughts on RuPaul? Thoughts on rupaul are we already to rue wow wow i mean i don't know how much i give it to rue or to them producers but the producing on the season was mostly bad mostly bad this was not my favorite season and that's okay that's okay it gets to have bad seasons yeah or. Or not bad, but just subpar, you know? And I'll watch it again one night when I'm stoned at home.

Great. Eating goldfish crackers out of a bag. I'll watch All Stars 3 again and I'll say, Or Bowl. This was bad. If you want, put them in a bowl. But the Bendala bring back episode

is in the canon of great apps. Yes, that's true. That was a gag and I think all all not all for it BB's runway final runway didn't do it for me but I liked it but it wasn't the best of all time but it was good Angela's and Trixie's I thought

are in the top top 100 yes runway looks towards 1000 I'm gonna say I'm gonna say they're in the top 25. No, no, no. Violet has 10 of those. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. You are forgetting. The children have forgotten. You are forgetting some of Detox's looks in All Stars 2. Oh, yeah, of course. The latex. No, I didn't forget. No, you did. But we can all agree that the BTS single take was a gag that was a gag but kitty girl kitty girl is great we go to that moment what made you cry

about it shangela's verse made me cry because you were touched you were like she's so hard she's done so well look how much better she is than she was yeah i just have a lot of respect for someone that goes at it for years to become the best version of what they want to be and i think that shangela has become if not the best version of herself damn near close and i think that she really showed up to the show and i believe that that moment of her talking about why she deserved it to the jury at the end was really genuine because she has worked her ass off and she's got her eyes on the prize of success and she's getting that. And I just was like, I don't know,

that just moved me to see her kill it looking like Beyonce with those backup dancers all around her. And also, to be honest with you, I think I was a little emotional about it because...

You were high and horny? Yeah, I was so high and so horny. I got emotional in Shangela's verse when she was like, Ned Stark looking like a lark. Everybody, Game of Thrones. I was like, I'm crying. You're a faggot.

I'm crying. We're in Westeros, my hoes. Ga, ga, ga, ga, ga. I wish she'd said ga, ga, ga, ga, ga. That would have been a great rising BB. I'm crying. I'm crying. I cried salt water tears

for Shangela's birth. I love it. Can I finish my thought? Yeah, please. I'm sorry. My sisters have already said that. I'm glad you cried at Shangela.

I did, I cried. I was like, hey, here you go! I'm glad you cried at Shangela I did I cried I'm glad your little eye ducks your two ducks went off go off to your ducks wait hey kitty girl is a tear jerker shut the fuck up it's your world I think sissy that walk I weep

also every time I hear if I dream I'm like oh my god I'm crying I'm like, oh my god. Oh my god, I'm crying. I'm crying. Let's talk fun predictions for season 10. Who are

our faves so far? Monet. Cracker and Monet. But Vanessa has her little claws in me. Vanessa and Angie. I'm very excited for Mayhem. Mayhem is good. here's my top three prediction money exchange mayhem miller yes and i'm gonna go out on a limb you want to and say someone we don't accept yeah i'm gonna say mayhem monet and eureka those are my top three and top

five is cracker and vanessa i think cracker i'm gonna go out on a limb and say cracker has a great season but it's like a thorgy-esque season so therefore i'm gonna say i'm gonna no not necessarily villain i just think well liked but like not at the level of the top top top girls and that's not a comment on anything real no no comment on something well the way the show pans out i got feeling i'm gonna say sixth place i have high hopes for one but i really have high hopes for Eureka who wasn't even my queen that season but we need a big winner and I think she's so fabulous we need a queen from fucking

podunk shithole city I have a bias towards country queens I'll forgive country queens more readily than any other category of queens she's got the country queen thing she's giving you the look but it's it's polished it's not country queens that i've sort of liked her meet the queens is truly master class really good oh

it's great it looks amazing she's is amazing she's having fun this time too it's just her meet the queens from last season also good also great she did the thing where she was like it's blank meets blank meets blank oh yeah like six things like it's like eureka castle meets like day glow meets whatever and she listed nine insane things and it was so funny it was very funny um okay great thank you matt um you're welcome i'll go next how about we we go what are we doing we're just talking about you know our fave faves because i couldn't do a final three i couldn't't even. Okay, fine. We're not going to do that. But, okay, this is all.

I just want to have a platform to say that you are. And that's what this podcast is. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Amasaki is. Oh, yeah. I will say this as. I don't know that queen. I will say this as an Asian person.

Please. After seeing her interview with Sasha Velour on Facebook Live, she is a disgrace to the community. Whoa. What? What? I did not see this coming. Here's what she does. Sasha's like being perfect. I'll be Sasha.

Okay. Yes, you're a white dude. All right, this is a question for Facebook. No, don't even do that. First, just greet me. Just greet me. Hi, I'm here with Yua Hamasaki. How are you, darling?

Hi, I just swam here from the ocean all the way from Asia. I'm an immigrant. I swam. I swam over here. ocean for all the way from Asia. I'm an immigrant. I swam. I swam over here. Wow. You're very high energy. Okay.

Let's go to some questions from Facebook. Here's one from starfish 69 69. Oh, that's my, it's me. That's my name. If your drag was an ice cream flavor, what flavor would it be?

I would say vanilla because vanilla reminds me of fucking white guys and you can have sex with all the white guys in the world and have sex with all the white privilege in the world. I'm quoting her. She's beta. You can have sex with all the white privilege in the world. I like to have sex with white men. I like to have sex with white men.

I like to have sex with white men. Her answer to the question. What do you think Matt's impression is doing for the community? It's enriching. I agree. It's enriching. Yeah, have sex with all the white men. Go off. Go off. The conversation.

Go off, Mr. Ashby. The conversation around appropriation has not moved in the last five years we need to move it forward honey matt is paying tribute oh can we talk about bruno mars i'm an artist can we talk about bruno mars well you have thoughts don't you i have thoughts you posted something cryptic on facebook about it yeah so i want to know your thoughts there was some like video roundtable where these people were discussing whether or not Bruno Mars was appropriative. And you know,

because you think that's of black culture where he's like not technically black. He's of color, but not black. Of color, but not black. Cause he's like Pacific Islander. Yeah.

Latino. Right. Yes, exactly. So it was just a really silly conversation and it's like, okay, we're not going to talk. Like we're not going to talk. Like, we're not going to talk.

If we're not talking about these things in terms of like capital and whatever, I mean, which is shitty. But like, as Nancy Pelosi says, guest cameo on RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 3. We live in a capitalist society. Yes. Whig. Yeah, Whig. Whatever. Bruno Mars is fine. And then I had our dear friend,

Colin Cordopassi come after me and say that we can't be so absolutist with this kind of thing. When I said that and he was like, no, but you know, black culture operates in absolute. So it has to be that way. And I was like,

whatever. I mean, he's, I don't have no, I don't know enough to, I just was curious what your thoughts are. So I don't have, I mean,

I'm a Bruno Mars apologist as you also famously know but famously as well I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say anything about just black culture obviously I'm obviously not in a position to say that but in terms of appropriativeness appropriation

just let Bruno do a fucking moonwalk across the stage. Oh, wait. That's what people, is it his performance style that people are saying? It's in some of his style, what he's presenting,

the music he's presenting, and how he's presenting it, I think, is how I understood it, but I didn't go deep. What, like Super Bowl pop? Yeah, but I guess he's also doing a bit of the early 90s, you know, like black R&B sort of thing. This is all to say Matt's impression of Yuha Hamasaki is not racist,

and I support it wholeheartedly. And it's not a fact either. And it's not a fact. Just remember that. Before you call it anything, don't call it a fact. In one of the reviews, I was called a problematic, insufferable. Reviews of what? Of this.

Of this show. I so wish we had. I think you are a problematic, insufferable Matt. Oh, this of this show i so wish we had we have i think you are problematic and insufferable matt oh yes i stand by my review that's what people love you just starfish 69 69 i really wish we had brought some of the youtube comments we've been getting recently because they are something i accept all reviews i do want to say though that i fucking hate that person that wrote that review can we just say the one recently on a hpj just rolled his eyes recently on a youtube aaron and i got the comment these faggots wiggle

around too much dudes need to sit still i love that which is a pretty good note and then yeah and these faggots wiggle around too much in a different um comment on a different thing um we got just someone typing wiggle like 70 times but like in a way that it was moved over one space so it looked like a snake and do we think this is what i think i mean we probably do wiggle too much but do we think this is a new gay slur i wiggle wiggle wiggle i do find our performance to be wiggly. Oh, I agree. So I don't think it is a slur. I do think it was just two separate,

you know, it's like two people discovered gravity at the same time. You know what I mean? I see, I see. And they both. Me and the person that got credit for it. Yeah, Tandy Newton. Is that even a person? It is.

Yeah, Tandy Newton's actress. That's what I thought. I wiggle, I think., Tandy Newton's actress. That's what I thought. I wiggle, I think. Dame Tandy Newton discovered gravity. These faggots wiggle around too much. Would you ever attribute the word wiggle to a cishet male or even a woman? I don't know. I think you could say it about women. It's like she was wiggling her waist.

Yeah, she was a wily vixen. She wiggled her waist into the bar. One wiggle and I went, boy, boy, boy, boy. But you would never say it about a straight guy. A straight guy. I'm going to start. Hey, wiggle. Hey, you wiggler. Hey, wiggle. Wiggle, wiggle. Hey, wiggle.

I'm going to start greeting straight men and going, hey, boy, give me a wiggle. And do you think they will? Depending on who it is. I'm going to find out if they're an ally or not. Try it at work. I bet Asher will wiggle for you. Asher will wiggle.

Asher. Jordan will, but he'll be uncomfortable. He'll wiggle for you? Aaron just said Asher Perlman's name in the last minute. Jordan's a good guy who'll sort of say yes to anything. He's got the improv mentality. He gets it. So I bet Jordan would wiggle.

He says yes. And it's great to test out sort of what could turn to be problematic things in the workplace yes or on a or on a podcast that's recorded for it forever and as we know the cloud is achieving sentience and will destroy us all yes the singularity is coming for me the cloud can come for me it already has i'm ready for it already has i'm ready for the cloud i'm'm gonna be like man of the woods i'll be out there fighting the weather yeah that's what he's doing in the woods that's what he went to the woods to do fight the weather yeah that's what the man of the woods does he fights the snow how much would we pay to see matt fight a cloud oh oh every cent every cent i'd be screaming like you you while I did it too. Okay. Can we do it? Can we hear some?

Yeah. Be careful. That's beautiful and so respectful. I love that. I love that. That was art. I just rip you. I was moved by that. That was art. I was moved by that.

That was Monet, you know, the painter. All right, let's move on. I don't think so, honey. Oh, right. Oh, my God. I totally didn't need it. So let's do a RuPaul's Drag Race edition. Okay, but we don't have to come for Queens like we did last time

because we all regretted it. I'm not going to come for Queens. Yeah, we already did it again in the last two hours. All right, I have it. People who are one degree away. Oh, shit. All right, I have it. People who are one degree away. All right, I can set a timer. I'm going to do it on my little watch. What just happened to you?

Nothing. Okay. Okay, here we go. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. Okay. And his time starts... Oh, hold on. Now.

I Don't Think So, Honey, the part of the BTS one-take routine which was the judges choreo part because let me tell you something ross was off and it was noticeable and guess what if they could be rehearsing their ass off the whole time you guys can get this part together also literally you had to turn around in a chair walk three steps do a little thing with your arms, and point on cue. And you guys couldn't even get it right. 30 seconds. Extra credit to Carson for giving extra hips.

Michelle, you looked self-conscious, bitch. I don't think so, honey. You looked self-conscious doing it. Guess what? If you all need to step your pussy up, judges. And here's my thing. 15 seconds. Judges the whole time didn't do enough.

I want to see the judges come extra hard on season 10 and remind us time didn't do enough i want to see the judges come extra hard on season 10 remind us what's up and i want to see some good decision making also i think we should stick to either ross or carson and i usually would go with ross i love all the guest judges this season especially vanessa hudgens and that's one minute amazing yeah i love ross matthews love ross and i agree that the that judges cuero is like you're gonna make these queens do this and y'all can't point? Like, they like, it was so weird.

Point and hold for four counts? Yeah. They like pointed and then we just waited and looked at them. Or maybe make them do less. It's like, I'm a little nervous. Just make them sit in the mirror and go like, hey, when the camera goes by.

Yeah. I love Ross. Ross is one of us. You want to know why? He started off as an intern on a late night show, did Man on the Street bits, had his own podcast, and now look at him. God, if he'd been in an improv group, he'd of us. You want to know why? He started off as an intern on a late night show, did Man on the Street bits, had his own podcast, and now look at him.

God, if he'd been in an improv group, he'd be us. I'm sure he was. I'm sure he would never have survived the improv scene in 2004. It would have eaten him alive, yeah. Exactly. Never did improv. Bitch. Yes, what?

Don't even know what it is. Go off. Okay, so I can do now. I have one too now. Okay, great. Oh, but you can go. I just mean I'm prepared now. I think I have one that you have taught me, so you can go but i just mean i'm i think i have

one that you have taught me so you should go first because i don't want to steal it okay oh okay i think just to just to keep in tradition keep with tradition we'll have the hosts yes we're gonna go first make no mistake no mistake all right this is mostly saying that to aaron in case you need it i've decided thank you thank you oh wait um but you've also decided and i love um yeah yeah great this is spelling yanks i don't think so honey as time starts now i don't think so honey the fucking coronation day like or not coronation day the fucking elimination day mirror talks like they were boring as hell this season the only good thing that came out of those was hearing kennedy sort of lament about how she's not as appreciated as the other queens are i don't want

to there was no, what was the social issue? What was the big social issue? The drag race needs to affect change. Sometimes it's forced, like on season nine, like every fucking episode was about like, one was about Russia, the other one was about, you know, body issues.

Wait, I want more compelling banter between these queens because otherwise I don't want to fucking see them draw their cat eyes on do you know what I'm saying I don't want to see how the sausage gets made I'm just here to see how the queens kick and twirl fuck drag

fuck drag fuck drag when they put like the makeup on I don't care for it five seconds left I want to um I would never wish a makeup tutorial video on my greatest enemy and that's one thing fuck drag when they put the makeup on fuck drag is the title of the app when they put the makeup on tired fuck drag okay i'm tired don't say you're tired i am you have to check it at the door. Okay. Think of the people on the train right now.

They're so tired going to their job. All right. Now it's going to be jaw sharp. Jaw sharp. You're crying. Okay. This is jaw sharp. I don't think so, honey.

And his wings are spread like an eagle. I'm ready. He's primed and his time starts now. Okay. I don't think so, honey. The producing on All Stars 3. I know we already talked about it, but I need to delineate some of my concerns. First of all, it's a ball and we have two categories. I don't think so,

honey. One of the categories is soup can. I don't think so, honey. That is not for the ball. That is for the cabinet in your kitchen. Also, I never... If we have seven queens or less, I better not get a clipped runway. I better get a full runway.

We got some clipped runways with five queens why what do you need to show me nothing also you should have straight up in the finale gone survivor and let us see who is voting for who yes milked the drama i don't want any of this you know morgan is the foreman we find you guilty nonsense i wanted them to come out and drag it out one for kennedy One vote for Trixie. One vote for Chandra. Drama! Put me on the edge of my seats.

And if not, then I say, fuck drag when they put the makeup on. If you can't give me drama, then fuck drag when they put the makeup on. I don't think so, honey. The producing on All Stars 3. And that's one minute. Fuck drag when they put the makeup on.

Fuck drag when they put the makeup on. Oh, boy. Okay. That was beautiful. Josh the makeup on. Fuck drag when they put the makeup on. Oh, boy. Okay. That was beautiful. Josh, thank you. I think that was really good. Okay, so I'm going to do one. I have it.

And this is a Josh Sharp opinion, but I also share it. Okay, so it's also your opinion, and therefore it needs no extra qualifier. But Josh, I just want to say he opened my eyes. I love that. We hive mind a lot of things. We hive mind a lot. I love that. We're constant collaborators.

Yeah, you're beautiful together. Yes. Did you know we have a Mount Rushmore? This is Aaron Jackson's. That wasn't one of my ideas. That wasn't Aaron. Come on. Aaron Jackson's I Don't Think So Honey as time starts.

No. I Don't Think So Drag Race Community who says every season this was a bad snatch game. Go off. Yes, go off. Every season is a bad snatch game go off yes go off every season is a bad snatch game where two or three of them do a great job but we always say it separates the wheat from the chap because a lot of them are fucking bad at it and they're not funny and that's okay it is very frequently bad and then someone does a good impression and you give them the win for the episode. I don't think so, honey. Everyone turning to each other at the

bar, clutching the vodka, saying this one's bad because fucking Morgan McMichaels is being pink. She's bad. It's bad. You only want to see the funny people doing the funny things. This is not a challenge for everyone. I don't need to see everyone on the doing the funny things. This is not a challenge for everyone.

I don't need to see everyone on the runway and be like, this runway is bad every season. It's all, Shangela taped a record to herself. She's bad at the runway sometimes. Five seconds. Fuck drag. I don't think so, honey. Yes.

I'm mad that I didn't say fuck drag in mine. It got boring. That is so true. I truly do bitch about that every year because somebody always is like did you think this year was a bad snatch game it's like yeah you say this every year but it's fun but they're always fun they are all stars two was good yeah there's like one or two that are good a lot of them are good season nine was good and people are like that was bad no i love i thought five of them did good that's crazy it was a great. My point is they're all pretty good.

You know, there never is a great comedy show. It's like a couple of queens are funny, a couple of queens suck. And then everybody's like, why is this? In the middle. Yeah.

They're never all nine funny. Exactly. Ever. Wow. That would be insane if nine drag queens were funny at the same time. Yeah.

What are the mathematical odds of that? Do we impression? What are the mathematical odds of that? I will say this. It's not an impression game right it's a comedy game now wait who would you do for snatch game i would actually i've you already done this on the podcast i've always said that i would do rachel rachel berry from glee leah michelle from glee okay but i here i have a new thing i would bob the drag queen it

so i would come out as bethany frankel, that's great. And I would be in the middle. I'd be like, I gotta go. I gotta go because she always has to leave. And then I would come back as Lea Michele from Glee and be like, Mr. Rue, I'm sorry I'm late and like be the student rushing in. So I would do a double take and would absolutely win. One thing I think no one's done Judy Garland

and that is crazy. Was you? No, I'm not good at impressions. I would want to be Abigail from The Crucible and just call everyone a witch the whole time. That's really good. That's really good. That's amazing.

What would you do? I think I've said in the past, Michiko Kakutani. But that in the workroom room would be like, now who's that? And I'd explain it and she'd be like. Or she'd pretend to know. She'd pretend to know or she'd be like but she's not funny again i love it reflective of the whole show because it's not a comedy competition it's a make rue laugh competition and she says that she remember you gotta make me laugh she doesn't say

anyone else laugh she says you gotta make me laugh what would you do i really don't know actually wait can i crowdsource this with my sister? I also think Shelley Duvall is a very good snatch game. You would be the main character. Oh my God, you guys! Would you be a great Shelley Duvall? Nice, shaking the bathrobe. And then you can also do the,

hello, I'm Shelley Duvall from Fairytale Theater. Absolutely. And then do a blood curdling. So good. I really oddly have not thought of this question before, so I don't have one right now that's okay but i want to crowdsource with my sister oh my god you know who you'd be good like a sort of like weird sally field okay like some sort of like like steel magnolia is

such a good idea okay wait has anyone done winona rider i don't think so you can just shop and shake shit from everyone that's great and then do heather's reference when on a rider would be really fun actually that's a good one because you would you could just have a sub game where you're just going around in the back stealing people's shit but i do like leaning into the southern aspect of josh oh that's true that's what i'm saying sally feels oh maybe i'd be um anita um Anita Bryant. That's great. Yeah. Anita Bryant. Kim Davis is also a good one. Kim Davis is also a good one.

Kim Davis is great. Kim Davis. Yeah. If we could, if we could do it together, we should be Anita Bryant and Kim Davis. I can hear everyone saying, Kim Davis.

I rebuke thee in the name of the Lord. No, I have to say something because we just, we did a field piece where we went and yelled at Kim Davis I loved it and in a lot of the like

pitching of it and stuff we had so many conversations with straight people at work where we'd be like Kim Davis is a gay icon and they'd be like doesn't she hate gay people and be like

it's hard to explain you don't get it but she's campy she's a monster she's obsessed with us and we were her and we were her and we were like

and Brian's a gay icon and they'd be like who is that and I'm like oh god did you see milk did you see milk she was a prominent part she certainly was oh my god kim davis is a great one yeah you guys have to check out this field piece that they did oh my god on the opposition which is they went down to kentucky kentucky moorhead kentucky yeah and uh they went to county they went to kim to Kim Davis' office and confronted her.

She did not move from her seat. No. She just went, okay, thank you. Josh and Aaron do say media whore to media whore. So they technically called Kim Davis a media whore. Yeah, we did. So that's beautiful. We actually talked to her for a while

because she really did just sit there and was like, thank you. All right, I got it. Thank you. And then finally shut the door and went, I guess we're done. and was like, thank you. All right, I got it. Thank you. Yeah. And then finally shut the door and I guess we're done. Oh, Captain, my captain. You know, you lose a lot of stuff in the edit. You lose a lot of stuff in the edit.

Let me tell you this bad job is you lose a lot. I can't wait to hear this podcast cut down. Oh, baby, it won't be. Not a second. Not even the part. I think we're leaving the whole thing. We're not even one part. Not even the part where I fucking talk about Mac and Rose's son.

Oh, yes, honey. No, because that was a specific call out. Wait, Sally Field's son is also gay. Also, all over Tinder. Yes, because when that story about him and Adam Rupon came out, I was like, I know that boy. I was like, I'm sure. In the way you were like, I recognize the person.

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