Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Slay With Our Friends" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

It's another slay with friends! Breaking news: it's a cough culture era. It must be December. You think the sisters won't write a song about it? Don't worry, they will. This is an esteemed episode of ...sickness and the eating habits are a mess. More is discussed: the taste of Fridays, Potomac, soap stars, Tree Paine look-a-likes, the Golden Globes, pre-med gays, Miyazaki films, Thursday night vibes, Nicki's new album, and of course some tea with Alan Cumming!  This bonus episode is available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What?
Starting point is 00:00:19 You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to
Starting point is 00:00:46 take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chez Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las culturistas. Ding dong. Las culturistas. I've never experienced Bowen more. The girls are worse for wear this morning. What happened to you just now? I coughed a really deep, disgusting from the pelvic floor cough. And that's what I've been dealing with.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It was really cuckoo. Do you have a cough? I have a cough. What is going on with cough culture? Yeah, I had a cough last week when we had to wake up and do the Today Show. But the show must go on. And then did you have any moment where the camera was on you and you were like, oh, I feel one coming. Oh, bingo.
Starting point is 00:02:30 A hundred percent. Bingo. I felt like that almost the entire time. I think that ultimately I kept it together, but it wasn't exactly how I wanted to do my first televised performance. But it sounded good. But Bowen was counting down from two, one to start the episode. And he was grimacing through a cough. And I just said, the girls are worse for wear right now.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It must be December. Honey, write a song about that on the next album. If there is one. Yeah. Everyone around me sick as fuck tonight. Everyone around me sick as fuck tonight. As fuck tonight. You really are digging into those vowels.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Sick as fuck tonight. Fuck tonight. This is something that people don't talk about. There is no Christmas song about how you're sick. People are usually ill because of the weather. There is now. Everyone around me sick as fuck tonight. That's really good, Bo.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Where does this take place? Where does the song take place, you think? I always like asking this question. I think it takes place when I'm on stage talking to the audience. Oh, yeah. You're like, it's a read of the audience. I'm just like, you know, I've noticed something about this crowd. The energy is something else in here.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And then I do a song about how I think it's amazing to be surrounded by people during the holidays. But the chorus is, everyone around me sick as fuck tonight. I think that is a really innovative song. Thank you. It's important work.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But also another thing is I'm eating horrible right now. Are you eating absolutely terrible right now like a trash can? I forced myself to order a salad yesterday because I was like, I have not eaten a vegetable in weeks. Isn't it funny too? Like you order a salad once and you want to give yourself the Nobel Prize. You're like, oh, wow, like great job. Like you did it.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You're on the road to recovery, girl. Later on that night, it's bacon burger. Honey, I ordered from Wegmans a box of corn dogs of 32 corn dogs. And they take one minute to heat up in the microwave, and I have a delicious American delicacy
Starting point is 00:04:38 in my mouth and belly. Why are you shaking? Why are you judging me so? No, can I say, it's not judgment. It's just as someone who knows you and your bowels. Oh. I know you wake up in some kind of form
Starting point is 00:04:53 when you are after six and a half hours of sleeping and letting one minute microwave corn dogs rest inside you for the evening. You must wake up and absolutely be esteemed. Esteemed. Not esteemed, E-S-T-E-E-M-E-D.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Esteemed, A-S-T-E-A-M-E-D. Esteemed. I don't know if that's a word, but let's... I've made it up today. Esteemed. No, I hope it is a word. I don't mean to shut you down. Your stomach was esteemed. Esteemed.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Oh, no. No. No. Oh, my God. Bowen. I mean, this is ridiculous. Who did this? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I cannot trace it back. God, remember contact tracing? Ugh. Perished the thought. Oh, my God. How dare you? I think, you know who made you sick? Olivia Rodrigo.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Olivia Rodrigo. She made you sick. I barely interacted with her. Wow. Because you know why? I think she associates me with a bad moment. Why? Because I had to interview her for V Magazine a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Oh, right. And I think, I forgot what the blowback was, but like appropriately, the editors were like, can you ask her about what it means to be like an Asian pop star and like what it means to like be Filipina and like what it means to like little girls or something.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And I think like this was back when it was like everyone was just trying to like, this was right in the middle of like the weirdness with the songs. And I think I don't know. I'm sure it was on her radar that people were mad that
Starting point is 00:06:34 she said that she was a role model. I think people took that quote out of context. They were like, she's not a role model. She's barely even 18. Whatever. People are so... Can I just say people are so... Can I just say, people are just awful. Yeah, people
Starting point is 00:06:50 can be very awful. Anyway, you're in my hometown right now. Girl! You know, I'm actually in the Cherry Creek Marriott that we recorded an episode one time. So this is not the first episode recorded from this Denver Cherry Creek.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Oh my God, Cherry Creek. Yes, honey. It's essentially like I'm in the Homewood Suites right now and it's lovely. I feel very on the road. Cormac McCarthy. Oh no, no, no, no. Jack Kerouac.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I'm sorry, wait, we need to cut that. Oh damn. Oh, Bowen has revealed a little vulnerability there. He thought Jack Kerouac was Cormac McCarthy because these girls all look the same. Well, they don't look the same, but they have the same sort of sounds in their names. Let's not cut it, actually.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I'm going to be vulnerable. Choosing to be vulnerable. This is our esteemed episode. Esteemed. Now, would you say that Denver audiences are mile high, they're breathing less oxygen, and they're there for maybe a little bit more days? Maybe they're getting that Mother God energy
Starting point is 00:07:59 because they were in Colorado too. We will see. When I step on stage tonight, we're going to see just how high and unoxygenated they are. I've had good shows so far. The only thing that does suck about being on the road is like we were just saying,
Starting point is 00:08:14 the esteeming of the stomachs. Because whenever you go to a new city, it's always kind of just like, oh, where do we go that we have to go? You know what I mean? And that's typically a restaurant that's not like a healthy restaurant. You know what I mean? And that's typically a restaurant that's not like a healthy restaurant. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Or it's like if you're on the road going somewhere, you have to eat quickly. That's typically not like the healthiest food. So I'm right now trying to understand how to eat healthy and be healthy on the road because I wake up in the morning and my body feels esteemed. It feels so esteemed.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Like, you know that I was two minutes late to this call because I was dealing with it. Yeah, you were dealing with it. Would you say you wake up in the morning feeling like P. Diddy in that? P. Shitty. P. Shitty in that you, your body's doing some terrible things to you.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Oh, yeah. The way that P. Diddy's done terrible things to women. Um, I went to IHOP last night. Slay? Tell all? We had a classic late night IHOP, and then we all got into a discussion about what our favorite, not fast food, but you know what I'm saying, what would you call that tier of restaurants,
Starting point is 00:09:18 like Applebee's, Chili's, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like hometown joints. Yeah, what is that called hold on let's Chili's Applebee's chains I guess like concept name casual dining casual dining those chains we all got into like a little bit of a discussion about what our favorites are I think that for me it is Fridays that is TGI Fridays oh you're. I think because I just love the energy of Friday. You know what I mean? I think it's such a beautiful thing to put out in the world. Like
Starting point is 00:09:49 it's Friday. Like when you tell people, when you come here, it's always Friday. I think that's absolutely stunning. Yeah. I will say that I have an appreciation for Applebee's and I did enjoy IHOP last night, which I think you do have to put in that category because while they are known as the international house of pancakes, I have to say, if you look at their menu, there are treasures untold. How many wonders can one casual chain hold? Many. Does Village Inn mean anything to you? That means nothing to me. It is a huge deal in Colorado. And I think they still exist but they are sort of slightly above oh
Starting point is 00:10:28 i hope my ihop friends don't hate me for saying this but i think there is a tier above ihop but not they're not too ostentatious but they just the vibe is great village is where you would go after the school play i see yeah that was Applebee's for us. It's where the drama kids would go. I was always, we were always a Village Inn house. And then our Chili's on Arapahoe and Parker in Centennial, Colorado, Aurora, Colorado was, and people might know where this is, was perched on this like hill slash cliff at this huge intersection. And the way it was lit and the way the neon Chile was sort of positioned made it seem like the most glamorous
Starting point is 00:11:16 place in the world. Like, I think there was a time when Chile's was kind of like an aspirational place to go, not even for kids, but for like anyone of any age, creed or color. Anyone from any age, creed or color could be found at Chili's. And it was mostly a place for the teachers at my school to go get drunk. Absolutely. I saw so many of my teachers, like from elementary school, middle school, high school, like when I would go there with friends, like I would look over at the bar and there would be teachers from my school getting drunk at the Applebee's or the Chili's. Like it would happen.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And I would say, hey, doll. Hey, doll. And they would say, now, you know, I'm off the clock. Girl. And I would say, well, this is interesting to see you sort of out in the wild. And now to think about them getting drunk at a Chili's. Chilling. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Maybe there's something comforting about Chili's in terms of an alcohol experience. They have like. They did have good margaritas. I was just going to say the margaritas are good. Wait, am I going to have to go to this famous Chili's that you described? No. Is it still there, you think? It's still there, but I think its glory days are
Starting point is 00:12:25 behind it. I'm sure the people working there are lovely, but there is a Village Inn in that same strip mall in Arapahoe and Parker. I mean, you still haven't gone to Casa Bonita, have you? No, I don't think so. If you didn't take us there, then we didn't go there. Okay, well, because it closed during COVID,
Starting point is 00:12:41 but then Trey Parker and Matt Stone of South Park and Book of Mormon fame, who grew up in Colorado, in Evergreen. Yeah, Colorado royalty. Spent, I think they did a whole write-up on it, I think in the Times or some magazine. They spent like $10 to $15 million
Starting point is 00:12:57 renovating it, making the food good, making the cliff divers safer. Like, it is a cultural landmark in not only Colorado, but I think in America, it is a hugely important place. But back in the day you would go ironically because you would go for your birthday if you were a kid or you would go ironically if you were like stoned
Starting point is 00:13:17 in the 10th grade because the food was rancid, disgusting because there was no ventilation in the kitchen. And you would go to like, you know, watch a hot guy like with an eight pack, like dive off a cliff into shallow water. Like it's a miracle no one died. But it is such a wondrous place. And Trey Parker and Matt Stone really like it's a beautiful passion project that they were just like, we love this place so much. What it means to our childhoods and the childhoods of many coloradans that like let's just do it i think it's open now and you should go if you have time honestly i'm compelled to go and i'm also
Starting point is 00:13:53 compelled to ask you what would our restaurant experience be oh my god curated restaurant experience be what would it be called? What would it taste like? What would it feel like? So for example, if TGA Fridays gives you the feeling of it's always Friday, what does Matt and Bowen's restaurant give? We have to start thinking about this. I think there's slides.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I think there's slides. I'm saying right now, I think there's adult slides. Well, that's so interesting because here's where I'm starting my brainstorm is what is the slogan? Applebee's has eaten good in the neighborhood. Olive Garden is when you're here with your family. I think ours is slay with your friends.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Slay with your friends. I think this is really good. So basically, this is how I picture it. You have to, because it's in New York City, you have to take an elevator. It has to be in New York. I think this is a chain. No, yeah, but it starts in New York.
Starting point is 00:14:53 This is the first location. So it's in Times Square, New York, which is one of the most famous, best spots for restaurants of this kind. So you get in the elevator and you go up to like the 10th floor. And when you get out there's the most gorgeous hostesses and it's titty forward and but everyone's like so it's it's like hooters but but not not quite as heavy it's not tacky it's it's more just like come on like everyone gets you there the hostesses say no matter say, girl, we have a table for you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like we have a table for you. Like there's always a table for you. That's one of the secondary slogans. There's always a table for you. Yeah. Slay with your friends is like the top one. And then at the bottom of the menu, it says in quotes,
Starting point is 00:15:38 there's always a table for you. That's so nice. So then you have to slide down from the 10th floor. There's slides. You slide down to the 10th floor. There's slides. You slide down to the fifth floor, which is where the restaurant is. Oh, I love that. So you slide down.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Is that ADA compliant? You dust yourself off. Oh, well, there's a separate entrance for those who can't have that experience. And we do something fun for them. Yeah. Anyone that has difficulties. Yeah, that needs a separate entrance.
Starting point is 00:16:08 We will have a different experience for you. It will be horror. It will be scare actors jumping out while you go down a hallway. But that's just, you know, you still have an experience. Wow. What's it called? The restaurant. The Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It's called The Chiefs? It's called The Chiefs? It's called The Chiefs. Kansas City Chiefs. Well, that's already kind of a loaded problem. It's already kind of not a great name. It should not be Chiefs, huh? It should be... Let's see.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'm sorry. I don't mean to shoot down your idea. I was naming our restaurant. The Chief see. I'm sorry. I don't mean to shoot down your idea. Us naming our restaurant. The Chiefs. The Chiefs. It was what first came into my head. What if it's called Chefs? Chefs.
Starting point is 00:16:53 That's what I was getting at. No. I was trying to say Chiefs, but I meant to say Chefs. It should be meaningful to us. Like, we're... Like, I think... We love Chefs. No, I think it should be called.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I think it should be called. World restaurant. World restaurant. I think it should be called. No, this is what I think it should be called. The tree. The tree. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I love that. I love the tree. And you climb the tree and then you have to like take a slide down into the tree. Into the tree, into the canopy. And then like everyone's got big tits and yeah the bloodies are so good and they're so good and you can drink three of them that's actually the tagline you're gonna want three of these you're gonna want three of these oh no the tagline's gonna be oh you like this you're gonna have three of these this, you're going to have three of these. You like this, you're going to have three of these. I like this.
Starting point is 00:17:47 That's what we have to tell all of our waiters to say to everyone when they come in. That's a great choice, you're going to have three of those. That is so amazing. Yeah, it's so amazing. And I also think that all the servers should be people who are escaping Scientology.
Starting point is 00:18:04 The tree. We have to give them a soft place to land. Totally. People escaping Scientology, let's see, people who used to be Times Square Elmos and Elsas. Yes, yes. I think give them a better working condition. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Well, we pay so much. We pay a huge salary to all of our servers. Yes. The training takes what? Like two years, I think. It's a two-year training just to make sure that they're the kind of person who can really take an order because we don't allow them to write the orders down. No.
Starting point is 00:18:38 We don't like that. I think a true test of a waiter is you have to remember every detail of an order. You wrote stuff down. Oh, every time. But I'm, that's, here's the thing. I'm not. You're not working at Tree. I'm not actually applying for a job here.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I'm the boss. I'm not working at Tree. I'm just the manager. Oh my God. I think there's a giant painted portrait of Tree Payne. Yeah. By the bathroom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And she is like an honorary manager because who's better at managing anything in this industry? She is one of the best music managers of all time. What do you think the traction is on the Amy Adams Tree Pain biopic that we pitched? Because I feel like people got excited about it and then I didn't see John August start writing it. Well, you should take that up with John,
Starting point is 00:19:23 but I think Hunter Harris really, I think she felt, I feel like Hunter was very supportive. And then again, this was her idea. She was the one who originally in her sub stack or on her Twitter, we went over this. She was the one who pitched Amy Adams as the trip.
Starting point is 00:19:37 No, she didn't. Yes, she did. Queen. She said, she said for years now that Amy Adams is winning her Oscar for the tree pain biopic.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I literally said this. That's so funny. I didn't even realize that she said that. I thought that's something that we came up with. No, but you pitched. Oh, I pitched the storyline. The Zero Dark Thirty sort of like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The Kim Kanye call. But I have an alternate casting option not to step on you and Hunter. I do want to give all the credit to Hunter, by the way. No, no, no. I wasn't accusing you of not giving Hunter the credit. I looked at a picture of Tree recently. And of course, the red hair, you think Amy Adams. But in terms of the face and the beauty and the severity of that face.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Ready? Ready? Yeah. Sarah Paulson in a redhuh. Ready? Ready? Yeah. Sarah Paulson. In a red wig. I think it could work. Okay, you're not as into it as I thought you would be. Can I say?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Look up a photo of her now. They have the same face. I mean, I would agree that they probably look the same. Look it up. All right. I'm looking. Looking at a picture of tree pain. I guess what I'm saying is like...
Starting point is 00:20:45 Sarah Paulson. Yeah, certainly they do favor. They favor? They favor each other. Tree Payne and Sarah Paulson, they favor. Okay. You never heard this expression? Not in a while. You really do favor. Oh yeah, yes I do. I know that
Starting point is 00:21:01 expression. But I will say I feel, and I'm just going to come out and say this. Sarah Paulson has been so booked and busy that I'm not dying to see her do Tree Pain. Yeah. Like, I feel like Sarah Paulson is always in 18 projects a year. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I want Amy. I want this for Amy.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Bad. Okay. Because the whole point is we need to get Amy her Oscar and TreePain's story told. I think that Sarah Paulson could do an amazing job telling the story, but in a world where this is real and it's absolutely not, and we should reinforce that it's not, I'm sorry, but I can't leave my girl Amy behind. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Okay. That's fair. She needs a win. Yeah, absolutely. Because meanwhile, you got the younger girls potentially raking in a second Oscar this year. Oh, honey. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+.
Starting point is 00:22:27 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 00:23:36 This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. of the meta commentary is that everyone's like oh this is all very respectful like there are no like back in the day it would be like the fun thing was to be like oh my god the golden globes are so fucking stupid i can't believe they nominated this you know and now it's like oh well because the hfpa doesn't exist because they were always a joke this nominating body is like actually has some taste and isn't jockeying for like, shoulder rubbing with like actors.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Did you see the one category I think is so dumb though, is like best cinematic box office achievement. Taylor Swift. And it's like, well, she was nominated, but like, it's just such a silly category because it's like, okay, so there's five nominees, but you're going to give it to the one that made the most money, right? Like, yeah, so there's five nominees, but you're going to give it to the one
Starting point is 00:25:25 that made the most money, right? Yeah, so Barbie's going to win. It's not like there's a nail-biter if John Wick 4 is going to beat Barbie. It's just so stupid. It's like, if you want to award the thing that gave the most money, be like, and this year we're giving
Starting point is 00:25:38 a special honorary Golden Globe to two or three movies who broke through and made a lot of money. Like, if that's what we're saying, then just do it. They're also doing a stand-up award now. Yes, yes. They nominated all the greats from the last two months of social commentary. All the greats are there.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Everyone who had the best things to say over the past couple of years is nominated for the Golden Globe for stand-up. Everyone whose commentary was desperately needed. I'm sure I'll watch. But the Golden Globes, I feel like they have such, they're still clawing their way out of the pits. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Like, they've really befallen, tragedy has befallen them over the last several years. I think we'll definitely watch. Uh-huh. I mean, I think we'll be there. I think it's our jobs to watch. You know what I mean? I think we are the culture east as Bo. i think if we don't watch the golden globes
Starting point is 00:26:28 who's watching oh yes absolutely millennial asses who bought into the glitz and glamour of the hfpa as children and we did totally completely dead and then we have to watch. Speaking of having to watch, I think you guys have to watch Matt and I very briefly appear at Andy and Anderson's CNN New Year's Eve. Oh, bash. We'll be briefly appearing and talking to our guys, Andy and Anderson. I've never met Anderson.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He's lovely. I'm certain of that. That's true. I mean, like he's such a,'m certain of that. That's true. I mean, like, he's such a mensch. Yes. He is the North Star gay guy for my parents. He was like,
Starting point is 00:27:11 well, you know, Anderson has a baby and you can too. And I go, uh-huh. Do they say that? Yeah, they say that all the time. And then, like, you know, Anderson, I think they call him Cooper sometimes. They go, Cooper has, owns a home and you should too. And I'm like like uh-huh he has cooper owns a home cooper has a firehouse yeah he sure does does he still live there remember that was like the big like west village yeah he was like the bachelor of new york i remember like the stories about anderson cooper
Starting point is 00:27:41 like being spotted leaving david barton gym. Oh, what an era. This was true NYU culture of the time. It was 2008 to 2012. Everyone would be talking in Tisch about, oh, did you see Anderson Cooper was leaving David Barton's gym? Right over the Astor Cuts hair cutter place where I still go. I still roll the dice every single time. I don't have an ordinary person there that cuts my hair. I just
Starting point is 00:28:05 go roll the dice at AstroCuts and I leave with a fabulous haircut every single time. What's the price now? Like still $20 or something? Oh, it's something reasonable. You know what I mean? I love that place. It feels like a neighborhood spot, even though it's probably so expensive, the rent. You know what I mean? Like that's
Starting point is 00:28:21 like in the heart of AstroCuts. Remember when they were going to maybe close during COVID? Oh yeah, that was devastating. So devastating. You know what's still there too? The Soup and Burger. Oh, cozy Soup and Burger. That is a classic spot.
Starting point is 00:28:37 We were driving down St. Mark's and through Astro Place on Saturday night with Sudi and Mo and I was like, I can't believe this was my neighborhood. Like, I used to, like, this was every day for me was walking down St. Mark's onto campus, quote unquote. Like, staying a boaps for, like, 12 hours and then going straight home. I was, I did not really do much in college besides go to, like, our little comedy parties. And that was, like, I didn't really't really like socialize outside of comedy kids.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, I get that. I mean, like I always feel like looking back, all of our friends were the straight comedy kids, which I think is great. But like, I didn't have any like gay friends. Like it was like you and me. And then we would always do like you know sketch it improv parties and then we didn't really have like we didn't go out to like gay bars i mean we didn't
Starting point is 00:29:31 do that no it was you me colin cortopassi who has now moved to new york and yeah and that was it we were like the little gay crew but but maybe you did some more gay stuff did you ever go to um splash was that place yes blast i never i never set foot in splash people are so like all like the age twinks of that time are like yes our generation yeah yeah it's like this storied place and so basically for everyone listening doesn't know what splash is it was like sort of like the gay bar where you could absolutely be 18 and get in and like drink and carry on and like god who knows what went down there but like it was definitely like the underage gay nightclub in new york and for some reason they got away with that for a really long time i know even though
Starting point is 00:30:20 like word on the street was that like it was every underage person um but i had a couple pre-med gays that i would like go out with the first gay bar i ever went to was urge which was village it's no longer there and it blew my mind i thought every gay bar had go-go dancers um and did that took some danger box kids there once i think i took nick packard there and mike spence there and like spencer novick there and like all those boys those straight boys you were hoping they'd feel the urge no no no i was just they were just like let's go i was like let's go to a gay bar and they're like okay and then i think yeah i was like 21 freshly 21 and went to the cock which still exists but back then it was like a little bit dicier even dicier than it is now and like within five minutes of walking in some complete
Starting point is 00:31:15 stranger freakazoid like stuck his tongue down my throat and i was like we gotta go like it was new york was even back then, even when people said that it died then, I'm like, no, like that's its own legend. Everything calcifies into its own little legend. Yeah. In time, you know? I think my first gay bar was Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Oh, Phoenix is solid. Yeah, Phoenix was, I mean, Phoenix is still there, right? Yeah, Phoenix is still there. The only one that we've lost that I'm like, really, really hurts my soul is Boiler Room. I know. Boiler Room being gone is...
Starting point is 00:31:49 It feels like a tragedy. No, I know. And did you know that like, the duplex upstairs cabaret space is also no more? What? Yeah, I know. Like, that's where I started
Starting point is 00:32:00 Have You Heard of Christmas? Like, that's where I started performing it. Like, we saw so many shows there. Like, Gay Show for All People. Gay Show for All People. Josh Arpiner and Jackson started there. That's where I bombed the hardest there
Starting point is 00:32:09 with Grey's Anatomy Improv. That's where we bombed the hardest there. We bombed the hardest there. Cola Scola would do their shows there. Oh, wow. That's so sad. Oh, yeah. Now they don't do shows there anymore,
Starting point is 00:32:21 I guess, since the pandemic. It's just, ugh. It's like, and like, to hear about, like, those certain places being endangered that really hurts yeah that really hurts and i i was just in austin and rainy street is just gone what like rainy street like it's not what it used to be like it used to be just like a run of like cool bars and like really really really like it was just so unique like a run of like cool bars and like really really really like it was just so unique to that city and like i don't know people from austin know
Starting point is 00:32:50 but like now it's like a lot of condos hotels by the way i did watch um the last episode of potomac i just caught up on potomac on the plane just because and they went to austin and they stayed in the hotel that i stayed in last year when i was doing my Christmas tour, which is right on Rainy Street. And the whole bit of the Potomac episode was, wow, there's so much construction around here. And it's because there's so much construction in that area that used to be so cool. It's all getting condo-fied. Austin stay weird, more like Austin getting corporate. Austin getting Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It was not my favorite thing to see. I hate to see it. Well, Ken Harry's must still be there. No, I don't think so. Really? Well,
Starting point is 00:33:38 it's not in LA anymore. Like that was. No, no, no, but there's one in Austin. The original. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I have to verify that. I don't know, but definitely the one in LA is gone, which also stung. Yeah, no. There's one in Austin. The original. Okay, I have to verify that. I don't know. But definitely the one in LA is gone, which also stung. Yeah, totally. Oh, did you ever go to Eastern Block? Because speaking of Andy and Anderson, that was the first time I saw them in person.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And Sam Taggart and I went when we were like 23 and we were so starstruck. Didn't you reach out for Andy's hand? Yeah, and then like, oh my God, that's so embarrassing't you reach out for Andy's hand? Yeah. And then like, oh my God, that's so embarrassing. I reached out for Andy's hand. I had never been that close to a famous person before. And he touched it back.
Starting point is 00:34:14 He touched it back and like stroked my arm. I like didn't see who was touching him. He just kind of like, ooh, whoever's touching me. That was our first little spark. You're not the only one who has chemistry with him i'm dying you have to tell him that i think i did i think i think he knows we should tell him that when we are on with them on cnn be like excuse me gentlemen in front of millions of people yeah be like hey last time i saw you guys together was at eastern block i grazed you wow i was actually just at Club Coming, which used to be Eastern Block.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I performed at Club Coming for the first time in years because Alan was having like a charity show and I would go wherever Alan tells me to go and I'll say this. I asked Alan Cumming. I was going to ask. Yes, what did he say? I was like, how did it go Traitor Season 2?
Starting point is 00:35:01 And he said, it's a better season this year than last year. Wow. Of he said, it's a better season this year than last year. Wow! Of course, because it's all reality people. Yeah, he said that because it was all reality people it was way better. He said he had a blast doing it. He lit up when I asked him about it. He told me
Starting point is 00:35:18 a little bit of tea, nothing too crazy, but he told me... You always like the tea. No, no, no. He literally didn't even say any names or anything. He was just like... He just gave a sense of what kind of personalities were there. I was like, well, I know the cast. He was like,
Starting point is 00:35:33 you're not going to be disappointed. You know what I mean? He seemed like it's going to be really good. If Larsa Pippen takes it all home, I will scream. I hope that Parvati wins. That feels like too obvious though. And I feel like the players wouldn't know that. So did Seri. Seri winning also felt
Starting point is 00:35:50 too obvious. Not necessarily. Well, I mean, I think it would be too obvious if Parvati was a traitor. That's what I'll say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want one of the housewives to be a traitor bad. Oh, I would love for a housewife to be a traitor. If Parvati was a faithful and
Starting point is 00:36:05 won, that would be amazing. I would like to see Phaedra be a traitor. She would be an amazing traitor. That is a calculated person. Calculating person. We know this. I'm not saying anything we don't know. She does the calculations. Apparently
Starting point is 00:36:21 Married to Medicine is good this year if Adriana's on it. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her?
Starting point is 00:36:39 But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City.
Starting point is 00:36:53 All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that
Starting point is 00:37:46 as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists.
Starting point is 00:38:18 We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I don't know. I do have to say, I watched Potomac. I watched these last two episodes just to catch up. You haven't watched them,
Starting point is 00:39:10 right? No, but the Vulture Recapper I think said that this week's episode was decent. It was the best of the season. Maybe not. Yeah, I think it probably was. You know, it ends with Robin breaking down in the van. I'm like, why are you trying to make me a villain? Why are you trying to make me a villain? I do you trying to make me a villain? I do nothing,
Starting point is 00:39:25 you know? Yeah. Yeah. So that, that's happening. It's still a little weird with the Wendy Nneka stuff, but one thing I'll say is,
Starting point is 00:39:33 you know, who's come from behind is Mia Thornton. No way. The legendary Mia Thornton is now the star of the show. She's now the star of the show. She is center diamond.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Whatever they hold. They hold a champagne flute. Is she really in the center? No.'re just saying god this is how bad i am i'm classless i'm below the dirt with these women because i commented on the reel of mia in front of the watch what happens live step and repeat on my public account i said flop and, I'm like openly like cyberbullying these strangers. But like, the comments on the rest of that reel were much worse than what I was saying. Like, the internet,
Starting point is 00:40:12 we do not like this woman. I don't think she can come from behind anywhere, from any angle, any which way. Honestly, you know what's weird? I know that that's true. I know that Mia is Mia. That's why I call her the legendary Mia Thornton
Starting point is 00:40:28 because I would describe her as not legendary. But this all being said, she is the one probably with the most compelling thing going on, which is, I guess, her... Being in a small house. I don't know. I'm literally yawning as I'm even saying this. The show is not good.
Starting point is 00:40:44 The show is bad. It's boring. It's not good. And you know what's funny? I actually experimented with art this weekend. I went to see The Boy and the Heron. Oh my God. What did you think? I said, I'm leaving Potomac behind.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I'm going to see Miyazaki. Oh my God. The legendary Miyazaki. Yeah. It's actually Real Culture number eight. Mia Thornton. More like the legendary Miyazaki. Period. That's actually real culture number eight. Mia Thornton more like the legendary Miyazaki.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Period. That's real culture number 88. Yes. But I saw it. It was stunning. I mean, the animation
Starting point is 00:41:13 is absolutely wild. Timeless. Once it really comes to life and like, it's almost like I can't really explain the plot because it's not really the point. No, it's never the point.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Like I left it and I had taken like a 25 milligram edible too. And I'm watching it and I'm just like, like absorbing all of this. And then afterwards I was like, I have to read a smart think piece on this. Let me tell you. Or you don't even really need to. That's the thing with Miyazaki films is that like you watch them and it's whatever you felt during the viewing experience. It's not about plot.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It's not about, I hate to say this, but it really is just about vibes. And I hate that I'm using that word, reducing this genius, one of the best animated film, the best animated filmmaker of all time to vibes. To the word vibes. To the word vibes. Miyazaki is vibes. Still a culture number 14. Miyazaki is vibes.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I'm so excited to see it it premiered at TIFF when me Aaron and Josh were there and we wanted to see it so badly but we never got around to it but um oh my god
Starting point is 00:42:12 have you ever seen Kiki's delivery service in the English dub no the girl who plays Kiki I'm like oh my god like she sounds so familiar
Starting point is 00:42:19 who is that Kirsten Dunst wow giving like an expert level voice acting performance when she was like 12. Yeah, I mean, expect nothing less from the greatest. From the greatest.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Really, truly. She was like 12 when they did that and was like Phil Hartman plays the little cat. Like, God, this is the thing. Miyazaki films, the English dubs, are fantastic because there's a lot of like, you know, with Japanese animation, with anime, it's like there are purists who are like, no, you only listen to the Japanese original audio. Like that's the way to consume it.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And like the dubs are sometimes like completely bastardized. But like all the Miyazaki films have a consistent like quality in terms of like the American slash english actors that they cast yeah was it in english was boy the heron english it was oh great and robert pattinson played the heron oh yeah and it was a voice i have never i would never if had you told me to guess basically willem dafoe is also in this and i would have guessed that he was playing the heron and maybe other roles because of just the vocal quality of the performance. But I never would have guessed this was Robert Pattinson. Willem Dafoe is like
Starting point is 00:43:27 really great in the movie and scary. And Gemma Chan is in it. Right. And it really did. It had like an iconic voice cast. And I was blown away
Starting point is 00:43:36 that that was Robert Pattinson. But Robert Pattinson is in it. He's in his art bag. Well, he is. He has a way with voice and dialect and like him in good time did you ever see good time that's after your brother's movie no i didn't see it he does like fucking
Starting point is 00:43:54 new york like he does that but he does it so well that i'm just like that was when i was like oh this guy can like really drop into anything like any any timbre. I mean, who knew that the cast of Twilight would give such thespians? But also, you know, it's almost like Riverdale with Charles Melton. You can't be writing these people out. Never! Or writing these people off, rather. Because they do these projects
Starting point is 00:44:18 that they just so happen to be like, I guess, attractive and charismatic enough to book when they were younger. Of course, that's going to make a... There's going to be a certain ripeness there for that person to cultivate talent and then become a movie star because there was already something about them.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You know who else I'm obsessed with? Lily Reinhart from Riverdale. She was fucking great in Hustlers. I love her. I can't wait to see what she does. Kiki. Kiki. Well, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Back in the day, it was like Michelle Williams, the teen... Yeah. The day it was like michelle williams the teen yeah the teen sort of like coterie to like prestige pipeline was like very there was no blueprint for it it was just like michelle williams was like the first one that was like oh wow like you can really yes super prestige like parlay that and then yeah this is but like it's it's happening more and more which is kind of cool well i was watching like the interviews like uh nat, like Natalie Portman and Julianne Moore have been doing a bunch of, let me just say, delightful interviews on the May, December. They're wonderful together. I love them.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, they're so great. And I didn't realize that, I guess, Julianne Moore started on As the World Turns playing twins. And one of the twins that she was playing was on trial for murder but she didn't remember committing it because she had amnesia and then it was revealed that she did not commit the murder and i was like if you could think of a more soap opera ass storyline than that raise your hand i'm ready to call on you third grader because it's time for you to start writing because this was iconic and honestly that should be where the morning show season four goes next year.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I want to see full on long lost twin murderer amnesia on trial. Well, that's every trope. That's every trope in soaps. Yeah, truly. Twins, amnesia, murder. You know?
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah. And Julianne Moore would then become Julianne Moore after it, okay? That's the thing. Soap acting is so specific and difficult. And like, it was like the place people would book their first jobs.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like, like Lisa Rinna does a very good job in that space. You cannot deny. Yeah. You know, that's her mode as a performer is on 10 committed and selling it. You know what I mean? Like that's what Lisa Rin runa is gonna do is
Starting point is 00:46:26 sell it okay absolutely absolutely i'm trying to think of other like oh i remember when i was little like my mom was obsessed with all my children and my mom was yeah we've talked about this our both of my children josh dumel was on it sarah michelle geller played erica kane's Sarah Michelle Gellar played Erica Kane's daughter Kendall and that was where she got her start I mean famously I guess Margot Robbie was a soap star in Australia I believe like oh god I almost said Kylie Minogue but I think I was just on my Australia
Starting point is 00:46:56 tip but she might have done soaps in Australia too when she was younger all the gays in LA went to go see Kylie Minogue Kylie Krishlaker's birthday and they said it was absolutely stunning. And I said, Kylie, that's someone,
Starting point is 00:47:08 that's someone we got to go pay respects to. Oh my God. That woman fucking sired me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Would you say it was a combination, a tag team of her and Celine Dion, which made Bowen Yang?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yes. Well, Kylie, I like came to when I was really oh my god i was i had a dance dance revolution ddr phase you had no idea no but this is the thing my mom would be at costco at the park minnows mall and then i'd be like mom i'm going across the street to best buy and i would go to best where. Where they had a DDR. We're at the center of the store.
Starting point is 00:47:48 There was a giant TV, a PS2, and two DDR dance pads. It was like a fucking amphitheater. No, it was like a coliseum. Wow. Like just three, six people would start to gather around me and this like 30-year-old goth girl who would it was her and this like scrawny asian 14 year old boy fucking slaying slaying fucking throwing arms and elbows and legs and knees and feet around to every fucking trash techno song from that era.
Starting point is 00:48:26 But there was a song called Love at First Sight. Yeah. Well, I mean, I can't get you out of my head. I was like, I heard- It was love at first sight. And I was like, who is this woman? And then thus began my obsession with that. You have said that so many times.
Starting point is 00:48:41 That is an iconic Bowen line. Who is this woman? That is something you've so many times. That is an iconic Bowen line. Who is this woman? That is something you've said many times. That's the cis gay male experience is asking, who is this woman? That's actually real culture number 40. The gay male experience is asking, who is this woman?
Starting point is 00:49:02 Title of episode, who is this woman? Should the title be, who is this woman or slay with your friends slay with your friends slay the tree the tree oh my god yeah well she looked amazing apparently she was amazing the venue that she performs in in vegas is like really cool very intimate and she goes right up into the crowd and goes right next to the tables and it's sort of like up close with Kylie. Up close and personal with Kylie Minogue. Kylie, I love that. We have
Starting point is 00:49:32 to see her. I have so much Vegas ketchup to play. Oh my god. The fact that you've not yet seen Adele. I would so go with you again next year. I would go see... Oh my god, you'd miss Kelly too. I know. I have not been since like 2007 you know what we need to do and it's dangerous to say let's be there for more than
Starting point is 00:49:51 three days but we need to figure out a way that we can see at least two in a weekend and one of them might have to be katie x tina x tina oh 1000 katie's done katie's cooking i know katie's she hang up the cherries and the lemons or whatever the hell goes on. Right, right. The toilet paper. Yeah. I need to go see Kylie for sure.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah. My deepest lifelong regret is never seeing Celine in Vegas. That's 100% one of my greatest regrets too. Do you remember that we had tickets to see her in Madison Square Garden and then we didn't go? Oh. Do you remember that we had tickets to see her in Madison Square Garden and then we didn't go? Oh, do you remember this? Like this was like what?
Starting point is 00:50:29 Like 2019? No, I remember, but I think I like blocked that out because of the shame. Yeah. Because of what a horrible memory it is. This woman may never sing again. Oh my,
Starting point is 00:50:41 I can't think of, I can't talk about it. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That's why I always say, see the legends while you can. Go. Go see her. You're gonna hate me. What? They invited me to go see Madonna on Thursday, and then yesterday I was talking, they invited me and a couple people from work, and I was talking to
Starting point is 00:50:59 Ego about it, and I was like, I don't know what the vibe is. Thursday nights, I think... Yeah, it's hard to say yes like we're all like again this is not me complaining about you know work it's a tough part of the week but and like also it's the third show it's Christmas we've only had like
Starting point is 00:51:17 one week long breaks and everyone's a little cooked at SNL at the moment and so we're just like I don't think this is the time to do it. And so I pulled out, but I was going to a little box and see it, but I don't think I can. I don't think I have it in me,
Starting point is 00:51:33 but it's Madge. And it's like, this is the last time. I think that you have to, you have to really consider that, but also like, you don't want to be fucking exhausted on Friday and Saturday. And also if you're going to go see Madge, you got to go consider that. But also like, you don't want to be fucking exhausted on Friday and Saturday. And also if you're going to go see Madge,
Starting point is 00:51:47 you got to go all the way in. Totally. You got to go Madge. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama
Starting point is 00:52:04 was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:52:20 The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo, or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Starting point is 00:52:55 At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban,
Starting point is 00:53:14 I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13
Starting point is 00:53:43 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Nicki Minaj, Pink Friday 2 World Tour, March 30th in New York, MSG. That's an interesting thought. Interesting thought. What are your thoughts on the album?
Starting point is 00:54:41 I don't know that it necessarily should have, I think it's an obvious sort of like marketing thing to call it a sequel to Pink Friday in any way. High highs, low lows. I was going to say the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:54:59 High highs, low lows. Which makes it feel like Queen in a way. And I feel like Queen has aged okay it doesn't sit up there with like her best stuff which again like as otherwise like her mixtapes and her the pink friday sort of like series in terms of like pink friday roman's revenge roman reloaded and pink print yeah i would say that i was really excited when Barbie Dangerous started I was like oh here we go I was like this is where we're starting I'm really really excited
Starting point is 00:55:30 and then I didn't really get excited again but throughout I was like oh this is moments and then I don't know I did find myself like gravitating more towards like fuck the club up yeah I really liked Cowgirl Cowgirl's great i get that everybody is
Starting point is 00:55:46 probably going to be a huge hit i you know like i don't know but i i guess like i was just i was waiting for something a little bit more high impact and a little bit more original i guess that's what i liked about queen and the pink print is it felt like they were something different yeah and now it's like pink friday too like i understand that we're doing a sequel to pink friday but i think the fact that like then in and of itself like isn't inherently completely original kind of takes something from it for me and also like when you call something a sequel like pink friday too like you have to then you are then like presenting it in the shadow of pink friday which is such a fucking moment and was such an original burst of like this new talent and all this new like you know something we hadn't seen before this like pop fused hip-hop like supernova
Starting point is 00:56:33 that she was like that's all here but i'm missing the moments in the album where i'm like whoa like this feels brand new and this feels like really exciting and different for her and i'm like but definitely her talent is on display. I'm like, I enjoy listening to it. I just wonder if it's too long. And I wonder if we could have just packaged it a little bit differently and we might like it more
Starting point is 00:56:54 because it wouldn't feel like, you know, in the shadow of its predecessor. But also I do agree that it is obviously a marketing thing. And I do think the marketing thing worked because everyone knows this album is out. You know i mean like in presenting it like this like you do like sort of harken back to a monoculture ish type thing which was pink friday you know what i mean like everyone knows the pink thing with nikki like right the empire state building can be lit up pink and we get why was it lit up pink for that it was oh that's amazing um i mean gag city is like the
Starting point is 00:57:27 best no it's it's actually like the most impressive amazing grassroots fan marketing campaign ever i love it like i love gag city i love gag city so much but like yeah i guess that's what's sort of buoying this album for now. And like, who knows in a few months, like what we'll be talking about in terms of this album. I do think everybody
Starting point is 00:57:53 will probably be a single. I think Pink Friday girls is- There'll be hits. There'll be huge hits. I just, I think, I can't tell. Am I crazy?
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm like, the thing of Pink Friday wasn't that it was all samples like every song is a sample here which there's nothing wrong with that it doesn't cheapen anything but to your point it's like it also kind of like is another degree of separation away from
Starting point is 00:58:16 any kind of original feeling novelty sort of thing we get from this kind of album from her big return what do you think of the billy sample that opens the album i was so shocked like i pressed play on the album i was like wait are you wait really this like that i did not know that's where we'd be starting i know me neither i was like cool like it like got like it like got me to pay attention i was like oh that's what that's
Starting point is 00:58:41 a big swing but great yeah yeah well i'm gonna continue to be spinning her and we'll see if she uh lights me up anymore okay i mean you know i did i did like last time that i saw you it's buried all the way at the end of the album like at one point i looked at the track list i was like okay how far away am i from this being over which probably is not a great sign but i couldn't believe how long the album was i was like whoa we had no qualms about making this longest album in the world huh right girl i have to confess something what are you confessing a song that i'm currently obsessed with what is she loving on me by jack carlo i'm like this islow. I'm like, this is a fucking...
Starting point is 00:59:25 Are you one of his girls? This is a fucking Slaya hit. I'm one of his girls. Also, lovely host when he hosted last season. Very funny person. I just never thought that I would be one of his girls.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah, I never saw that for you either. Yeah. But I think... That you'd be a Jack Harlow I like this song a lot and it's the perfect it is like so indicative of this time in music where it's like it's two minutes
Starting point is 00:59:53 it's a sample it's whatever but I'm just like you know what it's whatever I'm going repeat on this it's easy to repeat because it's so short and I'm really I think I'm going repeat on this. It's easy to repeat because it's so short. I think I'm really contributing to the streams, but so is the rest of the world.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Well, listen, I support you and all your musical tastes and endeavors. Everyone get out there and see films. Listen to music. Get out there and experience culture. Get out there and see me on tour. You must see Matt on tour. Sneaking that in there. See the legends while you can.
Starting point is 01:00:29 See the legends while you can because one day I won't be performing anymore. Perish the thought. It's time for I Don't Think So Honey. What do you think? I think so. Oh, really quickly. I'm sure I'm not the only person to say this,
Starting point is 01:00:40 but you know how on Spotify, if you play a Taylor Swift song, there's a sixed star that's on the bar? No. Oh, you didn't notice this? What? What are you talking about? Unless you didn't update your app, if you go on Spotify, play any Taylor song. Okay, I'm
Starting point is 01:00:56 playing Cruel Summer. Okay, now look at the thing on your phone. Okay, what am I supposed to see? Look at the time bar. Is it a circle or is it a star? It's a circle. Oh, never mind. You must not have updated your app. What does the star mean? Okay, hold on. I'll show you the star.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Is it just because it's Taylor and she's being a little frisky? Well... Or is it a hint? I think it's a clue. Everyone thinks so. I'm obviously not the... Okay, so do you see that little star on the bar? What is she trying to tell us? It's a six-pointed star.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Okay. And what's her sixth album? Reputation. What is going on? I think we're going to find out. It's coming. I think Rep TV is coming. Girl!
Starting point is 01:01:42 And she called it... What did she call it in that interview? Well, she was Time's Person of the Year, and she called it a goth punk moment of female rage against a system that is gaslighted by an entire social structure i was like wow you she has never failed to deliver with her insane sound bites i would very much like to be excluded from this narrative. And now this. We love it. When she said that, I'm like, this girl, you know this girl is like, damn, I wish I went
Starting point is 01:02:12 to college. Damn, I wish I took a Conversations of the West humanities class. Oh, no. Taylor Swift is Northwestern coded, if I've ever seen it. Honestly, no. She's Ivy League girl. She's Ivy League girl. She's Ivy League girl,
Starting point is 01:02:26 or I think there's a reason why she chose NYU to do her commencement speech. I think she would have been an NYU. You think that she would have been an NYU girl? I don't know. No, I see Taylor Swift on a campus. I see her at Stanford. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Not Stanford, Princeton. Princeton. No, wow. Not Stanford. Princeton. Princeton. No, tell us what Princeton values. Or she's Dartmouth. She's giving Shonda Rhimes Meredith Gray down. Anyway. Okay, this is I Don't Think So Honey where we take one minute to rail against something in culture. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yeah, I am. Time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, people being all in ready? Yeah, I am. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People being all in a kerfuffle about me and Joy Behar on The View when I said that she was barefoot on a plane. So many people picked this up and acted like I had spit in the woman's face and that she had disinvited me from the show forever. It was a lighthearted thing. Her being barefoot was in my pre-interview. It was going to happen. Like, it was a funny moment where I said,
Starting point is 01:03:30 Joy, you were barefoot on a plane and I saw you. And she said, shut up, don't tell them that. And then it was lighthearted and she laughed about it. And she said, you outed me. And I said, Joy, you were not shy about it. Your feet were up and out and they were beautiful. She said, I do have pretty feet. It was a lighthearted moment. And you can't trust these medias because they will make something out of
Starting point is 01:03:48 nothing like they made it seem like it was like an animosity moment it was not i had a lovely time at the view it was a wish fulfillment for me to be in that studio with those iconic women and when whoopi said you have to come back that was was a dream moment. I don't think so, honey. Anything other than that qualifies as a dream moment my entire time at The View. That's one minute. 1,000%. If you watch it, if you actually take the time to watch it,
Starting point is 01:04:13 it was playfully, you know, facetiously done between both of you. And I have to say, her feet were beautiful. Perfectly polished nails. Red nails. Yeah, you were a witness to it. They were absolutely stunning. I just do feel like I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Bare feet on a plane. Because as someone who is a survivor of athlete's foot, which I'm open about on this podcast, I think we have to be considerate and careful when it comes to what our feet are capable of. That's really all I have to say about it. Do you think your athlete's foot made my fingers start to peel?
Starting point is 01:04:48 Were you touching my feet, Bowen? No, but you showed me your athlete's foot pretty close to my face. Excuse me, I don't like the insinuation here. What's the insinuation? I think that you're trying to say that I was inconsiderate in your home and was spreading my
Starting point is 01:05:04 fungal. I'm not saying you meant to spread your fungal, but I'm saying there's a possibility that your fungal made contact with my hand. Are your hands itching? No. Okay, well then you should just take it up with your derm, okay? Because I don't think I have anything to do with it, sweetie. Okay. It looks like you need to handle yourself. Oh, govern your ass. Govern your like you need to handle yourself. Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Govern your ass. Govern your ass. Slay with your friends. More like pay for your sins. Okay. Alright, this is Bully Yanks. I don't think so, honey. I can tell he's so ready. And his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Sometimes the Stanley Cup don't be keeping your drinks
Starting point is 01:05:43 cool long enough. This is my struggle. I don't be keeping your drinks cool long enough this is my struggle I don't mean to bite the hand that feeds because they did give me one for free and I'm so grateful but I did not ask to be given that and there was no agreement that I would endorse it
Starting point is 01:05:58 and so my review is that sometimes it's catching a lot of fingerprints and it's not keeping the drinks cold and the top collects a lot of dust. So Stanley, I only want success for you. And you are now an iconic brand. You don't need my input. I doubt you'll even take this opinion to heart,
Starting point is 01:06:19 but I think there's always room for improvement in everything in life. And God knows I have plenty of things to improve upon myself. But I think I would really thrive if the insulation was 24 hours for cold drinks, 12 hours for hot. That would be an amazing slay. And that's one minute. And my comment on this is I've only had an incredible experience with all stanley products i look forward to i have to be honest join them more in the future i have to be honest and i love i
Starting point is 01:06:52 only say this because i care today no i know you are the realist well the reason i keep drinking from it is because the handle and it's so aesthetically beautiful yeah it really is i i will say i don't know if that black one is my favorite one. The one that you're drinking out of right now, this is not my favorite one. Like, I like the ones with more of the colors.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Like, I have one that is like a reddish brown that is so chic that it is, the culture that made me say culture was for me. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:22 That's high. And then I have a light blue one, which is stunning. And that was the culture that made you. Yeah. That's high. And then I have a light blue one, which is stunning. And that was the culture that made you say stunning. That was the culture that first made me say stunning. It was the culture
Starting point is 01:07:30 that made me say I can slay with a drink. And we've been slaying with our friends all this episode long. It's been a culture catch up. We talked about the boy and the heron.
Starting point is 01:07:40 We talked about Yeah. The golden globes. Yeah. The golden globes were touched about um Yeah. The Golden Globes. The Golden Globes were touched on. And you know, we got to know each other a little bit better. And that's always a treat. Always a treat to eat. Alright, well we end
Starting point is 01:07:57 every episode of this podcast, Last Call Teresa with a song. Knew I was a robber. First time that he saw me. First time that he saw me. He said I was running up and never saying sorry. But if I'm a ghost then
Starting point is 01:08:11 I'm in an island. Went to an island. And And he could be my jailer. But to this Taylor. This is a song from Reputation, which TV is coming very soon. If we have the Spotify six star thing to go by. Bye.
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