Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Social Soldier" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

Two friends, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, discuss Halloween costume culture, whether or not Rihanna's "Lift Me Up" is a bop or a flop, looking forward to a shocking array of concerts in 2023, performin...g onstage with world's best band MUNA, Matt's Have You Heard of Christmas upcoming tour and special, Celebrity Jeopardy and using a buzzer, the pros and cons of a game night, The Mole reboot and The Mole OG, Jeff Probst's SNL cameo and cultural impact, if Emma Watson is iconic in The Bling Ring or not, and Chani Nicholas peering into Bowen's ass on this episode of the critically acclaimed podcast "Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang".See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that, who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing out.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, Elianian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are,
Starting point is 00:01:48 there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts podcast or wherever
Starting point is 00:02:05 you get your podcast presented by Capital One founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports hey everybody it's Matt before we get into the episode I just wanted to hop on to sorry but plug it being giving season and all I want to let you all know my debut comedy special, Matt Rogers, Have You Heard of Christmas, is streaming on Showtime on Friday, December 2nd, 2022, and airing on Showtime that very same night. Please check it out. Also, I'm going on tour with the show to 14 cities all throughout December. Atlanta, Philly, DC, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Francisco, Denver, Austin, and New York City. I'm coming through. So please check out www.mattrogerscomedy.com for ticket links or go to the link in my bio at mattrogersthough on Instagram. General on sale
Starting point is 00:03:01 is Friday, November 4th at 10 a.m your local time but if you're listening on wednesday november 2nd and it's 10 a.m where you are you can buy tickets now using the pre-sale code mariah ho ho ho as it were now let's get into this episode cue that iconic little intro of ours look man oh i see wow oh my look over there wow is that culture yes ding dong las culturistas calling well you got the just the two today just the two girls why don't you why don't you you sick of us yet well then turn it off stop listening turn it off If you don't want more of this duo than Honey, it's time to hit the off switch.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Because this is going to be a hard hour of just us. Period. Period. And there's so much to talk about, but we might keep it short this week. It's going to be an hour. It's going to be 60 minutes on the dot. Okay? Okay. Not with ads. We can't predict. We can't predict.
Starting point is 00:04:03 We can't predict. We're of predict. We can't predict. We're, of course, in the sort of post-Halloween time in the year. You could say that again. This is when things really ramp up but also wind down, in a way. Isn't that so funny? The time after Halloween is when things really
Starting point is 00:04:19 get pulled in a lot of directions. Well, November is more of a contemplative month. You know, November is a month of comfort. You know, October is really a high intensity month. You're screaming, you're running, you're adjusting to a dip in the weather. Yes. October is maximalist.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You know what I mean? It's Taylor Swift. Yeah. And then November is more, we're sitting, we're eating, we're lounging, we're having a glass of red. We're thinking about the end of the year. We're sort of, you know, because we know December is going to get high intensity again. And so November is more Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:04:56 November is more, oh, the sun's gone down at 2 p.m. Well, I guess it's time to go to sleep. Yeah, it's giving hibernation. Now, what are your thoughts on daylight savings? I'm so happy you asked. My thoughts on daylight savings
Starting point is 00:05:10 are I'm never as mad as everyone else seems to be. I think you're going to change your tune when it actually hits. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. Iconic Miley B side.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Oh, yeah, of course. Well, technically, we're coming out of daylight savings into the non-savings part. We're i technically we're coming out of daylight savings into
Starting point is 00:05:25 in the non-savings part we're not saying we're spending now yeah daylight we're about to enter the doldrums the doldrums always catch you off guard that's that's why they call them the dole drums that's why they call them the dole drums because they're the what now what is dole d-o-l-l what does that word mean oh i think it could be could be pineapple patch and did you get to you got up to some fall fun i thought i saw you had a great halloween costume celeste and i were laughing at work going matt rogers one of the most wonderful beautiful fools of this earth dressing up as sadie sink thank you for saying that because it was looking real bleak up until i'm telling you this happens to me every year until minutes before readers
Starting point is 00:06:11 maybe this is you i never know what the fuck i will put on my body as a costume until the last the stroke of midnight as cinderella would say inspiration or more the bippity boppity fairy fairy godmother she would say that i just need people to know that matt rodgers has never once missed on halloween can you agree i mean i it's not even i don't even want to brag it's just bitch we don't miss over here in house rogers we just don't miss on halloween that's a rule of culture number 31 in house of rogers we just don't miss on halloween i still have people coming up to me asking about the pantry girl from last year she really was her name i forget what her name was but other people remember now i think this is what it is with ha costumes. I love a costume that is very involved.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You put a lot of effort into it. Amazing work. King, sovereign, queen. You know what, though? It's very simple. If you have a black turtleneck, black pants, and a red wig, you essentially are Sadie Sink. Right. Well, I'm saying, Matt, you've never had to lean so far in that direction of
Starting point is 00:07:28 highly produced costume right some of these girls out here are kind of putting all of their which we appreciate creativity which we appreciate i'm not this is not a a read but i feel like the beauty of a matt rogers halloween costume is that it is so thoughtfully coalescing in the last at the 11th hour as it were and pantry girl sadie sink i would say you know your college era no not college but post-college era costumes that i remember do you remember that one year i was just a crazy woman like a crazy woman at the office a crazy woman at the office christmas party like like she basically it was i and i was of course wasted wasted and i remember do you remember when luke there's the video the candle waxed on me it
Starting point is 00:08:21 was sudi's dress i was not there for this legendary video of matt in halloween drag looking stunning in a short bob little black dress little black dress from sudi green's closet back when you were a roommate that she used to wear to play joan in mad men in a sketch to give you an idea of how sexy it was. And there's an amazing video of you guys at a house party. I was not there for this, but I've seen the video with my own eyes many times. Our friend Luke Marinkovic
Starting point is 00:08:54 taking a lit candle off of the coffee table while you were dancing. And throwing the wax on me. Throwing the wax on you I stayed in character the whole time though I was like oh I acted like it was a gift he had given me
Starting point is 00:09:11 but that was Sudi's dress and I remember I did have to tell Sudi I did have to tell Sudi what had happened to it because the dress was of course ruined and remember this was a time where we could not really afford to buy that many new clothes. That was a nice garment to have in the prop closet.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Absolutely. So it was ruined and there were words between them. Sudie, that's not a situation she does well in. You ruined my props? Yeah. I'm coming for you. Yeah, no, I would do the same thing, wouldn't you? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:42 In the fierce words of Erika Jayne, I'm coming for you absolutely in the fierce words of erica jane i'm coming for you what other fierce words did erica jane say what other fierce words it's on appeal we're on appeal for legal reasons we're on appeal we're on appeal jared sent our housewives group chat um a meme which was flies when they're on a banana. We're on appeal. We're on appeal. Girl, sometimes meme humor takes me away. It really does. Speaking of daylight savings, Jared also sent one today that was
Starting point is 00:10:16 another Housewives related meme that was winter taking the daylight away. And it's Dorinda in The Girl's Trip 2. What if your son died? What if your son died? God, what an unhinged woman. There are, well, the Dorinda horror of it aside,
Starting point is 00:10:39 there are really creative people out there in the meme space. I'll tell you what always gets me is any meme that uses Sheree Whitfield. It was good. It was, I like the beat. I like the beat. Whenever there's a song that comes out, that kind of flops,
Starting point is 00:10:53 which by the way, let's just call a spade a spade. Oh no. The Rihanna song did not deliver what the girls needed it to. It really was. My expectations were kind of reasonable though. I was like, it's like a film. Like it's reasonable though i was like it's it's
Starting point is 00:11:05 like a film like it's gonna be like it's not gonna be a banger it's gonna be like an oscar play potentially you know i mean she said it herself it's a lullaby like did you see what she tweeted someone was like will there be more music and she she said or was quoted maybe she didn't tweet it but she was quoted as, of course there's new music coming. My fans would kill me if they knew they waited this long for a lullaby. There's something coming. There's something coming. The theory that we've been pushing,
Starting point is 00:11:33 which is that Super Bowl will be her last live performance ever. We were pushing that. I don't think so. I retract. Now it's becoming clear this is a new era because they used those words. They said this will open up Rihanna's new era. Thank God. What I think... Go.
Starting point is 00:11:49 No, you go. What I'm thinking is the gag. You go. What I'm thinking is the gag is that apparently there's a second song on the album. Confirmed. And I'm thinking that's going to be the smash. Well, that's also playing during the credits. And I feel like if it was a smash,
Starting point is 00:12:07 put it in the damn movie during the battle scenes. Unless it's like, slam your pussy to the ground! Then probably not during a battle scene. Absolutely during a battle scene. That's the perfect... Oh, actually, wait, you're so right. And also, you know what's happening is
Starting point is 00:12:24 Ms. Letitia Wright is becoming Black Panther. I mean, that's the perfect oh actually wait you're so right and also you know what's happening is miss leticia right is becoming black panther like i mean that's pretty obvious i think so if she were to stomp out for the very first time as lady black panther and then the song that we heard was rihanna singing that would be a triumph that would be a triumph and it would be a triumph, and it would with the Oscars. So then, mission accomplished. Hold my hand, found dad. Well, you know, we didn't start out liking that song when it came out. And like many Gaga songs, it's a grower. First of all, when it started, I actually had to rewind it several times
Starting point is 00:13:02 because I just didn't understand what I was hearing. I remember when Homemade, there's that weird beginning i'm just like wait hold on i literally put it on for the first time that happened and i was like hold on one second let me start over and know that happens um she's gonna win isn't she literally bowing i mean unless rihanna comes out with something on the second track, which is like way better than this, it's Lady Gaga's Oscar to lose for hold my hand from Top Gun Maverick. I support it. I mean, the way it felt in that concert at the end,
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'm sorry. That was not just the Molly talking. That was hold my hands power. It is a powerful song. And she ended her concert with it. Oscar for her. I felt like four fighter jets were going to fly above us
Starting point is 00:13:54 in that stadium. It was the only thing that was missing. And can you Bowen, just for a second, can you go back to that moment? Can you imagine if fighter jets had flown over the stadium? We would have ceased to exist. We would have to exist we would have exploded we would have exploded that would be the only thing that could compete with the other best moment in my life just in terms of pure euphoric feeling which is a delta zim if f4s had or f5s what do you call them f we're high by
Starting point is 00:14:21 the way just f call them f those planes, if those had flown over us, Honey. I would have screamed and cried. I would have wailed. I would have wailed, sobbing like we lost a great leader. No. Speaking of... I would be sobbing, screaming. Speaking of concerts,
Starting point is 00:14:41 we... I would love to talk to you about the moment you had this week and then we have to compare notes because you also got to go on stage with the greatest band in the world, Muna greatest band in the world, Muna period
Starting point is 00:14:54 they have just kind of finished their American leg of their tour I had no idea it was their last show the other night and that made it even better amazing live truly an incredible show the next time they go out which there has been rumors there's been rumors okay wow this is you have all of the ground level gossip there's been rumors that they are in some way opening for Taylor Swift. And I'm allowed
Starting point is 00:15:28 to say this because it exists online. Literally, people are talking about it online. And so it is like a wide out there rumor. I'm literally not even saying anything. Hey guys, it's Matt. Just jumping in here to say that this is no longer a rumor. It is confirmed. Moona is opening
Starting point is 00:15:43 for Taylor Swift on some select dates of her ERAs tour. Very exciting. Okay, back to us from a few days ago. Remember when she had Haim open for her? In that same way, they would make it be a perfect match. Perfect match. It makes sense. It makes total sense.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Ugh. I feel like especially with the Midnight's sort of sonic landscape is similar to a Moona album. Any Moona album. Really, take your pick. Truly, that show, if that's going to happen, that show will absolutely be number two, my favorite show of the year
Starting point is 00:16:17 behind whatever Beyonce does with Renaissance. That will be like an epic moment in time. I can't believe we're living in a world where we could get Beyonce tour, a Taylor tour with Muna opening some dates. That would be psycho. And then also Rihanna. It is a great prosperous time in culture.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Absolutely. Now, I really need to know the feeling of you coming out there, going out there and singing with them. It's a whole different thing to be on stage. Can you believe, could you believe the energy? Well, I'm saying the energy,
Starting point is 00:16:53 of course, amazing, but I'm just saying like performing to an earwig. It's wild. To an earpiece. It's crazy. And that's ours for people. That's like Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:17:01 She's up there with a fuck, with voices screaming into her ear while she's supposed to dance and do all this shit. It's like you getce she's up there with a fuck with voices screaming into her ear while she's supposed to dance and do all this shit it's like you get up there and do it and you're like wow this is insane to have to harness that energy and focus that entire time but i guess like you do eventually just kick into it being normal because it's the only way you can you have to just like commit to it and they texted me and they said, do you want to do a verse? I was like, I thought I would come out there
Starting point is 00:17:30 and flop around like, oh, there he is dancing while we sing the chorus. But they said, do you want to do a verse of either Home By Now or Kind Of Girl? I was like, I want y'all to have Kind Of Girl. And also I wouldn't dare. You would have slayed kind of girl girl home by now is perfect for you too but yeah they gave me the second verse of home by now it was
Starting point is 00:17:50 so much fun and like honestly the earwig was a challenge but i did deliver the verse i delivered the verse i landed oh of course you did i saw the tape bitch there needed to be more footage of you doing silk chiffon there's plenty you're just not doing a good enough job. You didn't repost it enough. It's on. It's on stuff. I'm sure it's on stuff. So, you know, an incredible moment.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I was shaking when I went off the stage and I told them I was like that that was one of the most incredible moments of my life oh my god and they do that every night it's so cool it's crazy they literally are the coolest i don't know they're just like also very very very chill people chill which makes it all the more merry all the more and if they do go out with taylor swift i urge people to pay top dollar and support in a capitalist way with your money with your dollars that tour yeah because that's activism you know years ago there was um remember political subversities i love paul i was thinking about polysub the other day stephanie shu an alumnus an alumna they had a song called slacktivism slacktivist i know the melody oh my god you remember it yeah the memory and that is the power of the hook yes emma tattembaum fine period period oh my god what a what a moment in history that was
Starting point is 00:19:28 like us us doing pop roulette that was like years of our life like that was like that was like four or five i know years yeah yeah and the like brief overlap with poly sub that we had okay so political subversities there were this musical sketch comedy group in new york city it was like a few sketch comedians but mostly it was these amazing actors and singers and musical theater performers shana talb was in the group who's now like major no it's it's stack it's shana talb it's brandon goodman it's Shana Taub. It's Brandon Goodman. It's Stephanie Hsu. It's fucking... Jabari Brisport, who's now a state senator of New York. Jabari was incredible in it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Amazing. God bless him now for doing all this amazing work, but he was doing another kind of amazing organizing. Yeah. The iconic Kim Blank, too. Kim Blank. Come on. Give it up. Was Ali Stoker ever in it?
Starting point is 00:20:29 I think so. But maybe towards the end? But Ali was in that circle. I knew they were talented. It's one of those things where thank you for lifting up the people who are amazing. Shayna is literally co-writing The the devil wears Prada musical with Elton
Starting point is 00:20:49 John. Can we just get into that for a second? Which by the way, I heard is great. It had, it's like, I heard it's great. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:55 but that's insane. It's insane. And then she's also like one of the chairs at like the ACLU, like planning committees. She's Shana Taub. Incredible person. Just all around. More people need to be like her.U like planning committees. She's, Shana Taub, incredible person just all around. More people need to be like her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I know. I ran into her when I saw Alex Edelman's show in New York, which was also fantastic. Uh-huh. It was so good. We love Alex. You know what? You're right.
Starting point is 00:21:19 This is an amazing time for the culture. Is it ripe or what? Beyonce, Rihanna, Taylor are going on tour maybe in the next year. And Shayna and Elton are writing a musical. That makes me want to belt a joyful note.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Go. Oh! So glad you did that. You know, I'm going to be doing a lot more of that. The Real Housewives of New York City that. You know, I'm going to be doing a lot more of that. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today.
Starting point is 00:22:17 The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Starting point is 00:22:59 At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 00:23:25 This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It took years for me to break that like years of work. Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl swoops, WNBA champ,
Starting point is 00:24:23 three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Can I take this moment to say, please, that now that my special is announced, I'm very excited about it. And I want to thank everyone for being so positive and excited and enthusiastic about it. And also by now my tour is announced.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And that's why I should just take this opportunity to say, buy tickets. Please buy tickets. Because I don't want to say it like a billion times. I don't want to hawk myself on the pod. But they are going on sale this week. And so please buy tickets. It'll be very fun. And I'm just very excited about the month because the show will be out.
Starting point is 00:25:57 The special will be out on Showtime December 2nd. You will not regret it. You must, must, must take the opportunity to see matt because it's one of those christmas things those holiday things where which i don't think we get a lot of anymore but it's like do you remember the first time you saw like let's say elf or the first time you saw like the grinch or like any of these amazing christmas things like this is i mean joel has said this publicly and now at this point you've done it for enough years now that we can feel like it's this holiday classic tradition for us that like we love it's,
Starting point is 00:26:31 it's holiday entertainment. That is like, as soon as you see it, you recognize it to be great. And then you're like, I can't wait to see this every year. It's one of those things you have to go buy a ticket. I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I'm so proud. That is so nice. It really genuinely is my pride and joy. And so I'm so proud. That is so nice. It really genuinely is my pride and joy. And so I'm just happy now that it's like announced because now I feel like it has to happen. Like I always feel like at any second, like, I don't
Starting point is 00:26:55 know, there's been some rough, weird moments where like the Quibi thing and like I don't know, I just got so off track. What I was talking about was You were talking, no, no, and I would love to talk about this this general thing in any place of work in any workplace dynamic where it's like oh the thing that you want to happen the outcome you want is up until the very last second not guaranteed yeah usually because it's being sort of mediated held hostage by people who like make the decision for you yeah and that it's such a bad feeling on a human emotional level to
Starting point is 00:27:35 like carry that around all the time and like i feel like that's so much of what so many jobs are but i feel like it's also so much of what like you and i do where it is just like okay we'll see what they say yeah yeah and also you want things to be successful too and also with with this it's i'm fully feeling like i really put into this hour of like that's me you know what i mean like that is my sense of humor that is like what i'm capable of like that's me. You know what I mean? Like that is my sense of humor. That is like what I'm capable of. Like that's me. And so like, I'm just anxious to get it out because not everyone gets to have that experience.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like that's very cool. That is like an amazing opportunity. And so I'm really proud of it. Like I can fully stand beside it and say, this is me. And just the fact that it now has a release date is like, it's happening literally. Like, I can't believe that's gonna happen and i couldn't be happier about what it is so that's why
Starting point is 00:28:31 i you know speak on so of course we also have to talk about so many matt rogers happenings and i love when there are matt rogers happenings in the world we did not get a chance to talk about your celebrity jeopardy appearance holy shit that was so much fun and surreal to do thrilling tv one of the cue card guys at work roman i love you roman roman goes stops me on the floor yesterday on a a Saturday when there's like a lot of craziness going on. He goes, Bowen, I have to tell you, I loved Matt on Celebrity Jeopardy. It was one of the most thrilling hours of TV in my life I've ever seen. I was like, wasn't it just the True Daily Doubles? Talk about it, please. That was surreal. That was, first of all, when I said that I did it on the podcast, I just taped it so i was very much on
Starting point is 00:29:25 a high i was nervous that people would start watching it because i it started so bad you guys like i was just being it was i was scared i knew the outcome and i was scared oh no i was being a dummy like it was really not going well and so i thought to myself at one point i was like you know what like i'm just gonna really try to calm down. I was so wild on the buzzer. The buzzer of it all is very much an element of it that matters. Yes, clearly. Because so many of the answers, you clearly knew the answer. I mean, it was like baby Jeopardy. The questions were not hard. The questions were not the issue. It was the buzzer.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So talk about the buzzer. What is it? Okay. What's happening there? Like you have to press it not a second sooner than when it lets you. So picture you're me. I hold the buzzer in my hand. It's huge. It's like girthy. It's like a girthy buzzer. I hate a girthy buzzer. And the button itself is very thick. You know what I mean? It's not like a pen cap, like a clicker on a pen. It's like a thick red button. And so that's like harder to negotiate with your thumb. I know I sound insane, but I feel like a lot of the readers are at home nodding because thumb dexterity, you know, you either have it or you don't.
Starting point is 00:30:40 No, and I'm sure it's intentional by design that they make it sort of hard to press and maneuver because they don't want you abusing them. And so then there's this. I had been told prior by a person that's been on Jeopardy, Louis Vertel, that you press the button on the last syllable of the host saying the question. I get there, come to find out that is no longer true. Wow. So it's the second she stops saying the question, the second, and these lights go up on the screen and then you buzz in.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But like, it's weird because like, listening to her land the word and also thinking about the answer at the same time, whether you're confident enough to buzz in, it's just a lot more. And then there's the physical difficulty of the button it's just more to adjust to than you think it's a lot it's a lot i've never been on a game show but watching you i could sort of by proxy you would slay no i wouldn't because i you would was stressed in that environment i would not have gotten the Edgar Allan Poe question, by the way.
Starting point is 00:31:47 You would have gotten that, right? No, I wouldn't. I did not know Nevermore was the answer. Yeah. So the question was, it's a three-syllable word that's used like many times. Like this many times. In an Edgar Allan Poe poem, The Raven. And I knew it was Nevermore, but I quickly had to go, Nevermore. Like, do the
Starting point is 00:32:06 syllable thing, because I was like, it was a big old daily double. Like, it was all my money. Which, by the way, I answered the Taylor Swift question, and then my score was 13,000. 13,000. I'm sorry. That was witchcraft. That was Chaos Magic
Starting point is 00:32:21 Wanda. If you, like, the fact that you and Ego Wotim had a learning curve with it, struggled in the beginning, makes me, terrifies me, because these are two of the smartest people I know. And I cannot outperform them in that way. I know I won't.
Starting point is 00:32:40 No, you could. You would be a lot calmer. No. That's what I'll say. And also, just watch Joel. Joel's episode is coming up but just watch joel joel i know for a fact i have no doubt that he is a star on tv game show space you're gonna want to tune in on that one or stream it on hulu the way i'm hawking celebrity jeopardy now because i feel like i'm in the family like you're you are in the family you absolutely, it's so, it's so much fun to play.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Cause like at the first you're nervous. And then as, as it goes, you're like, Oh, I'm into this. Like, I would love to like have a way to stage like a jeopardy and play that one
Starting point is 00:33:16 night with friends. I do like games. We, my girls and I haven't played games in a long time. You need to make up your mind. Cause you are a lot of the time like i hate games is that correct i actually am not someone that says that i just think if we're going to hang out it should be either about games or about something else like i don't like to plan
Starting point is 00:33:37 for one thing and then suddenly it's game shift scares you know what i mean like i'm actually pretty much always down for games but i like to know you need to know if it's game night don't you think you do but i think here sneak peek this is my i don't think so honey okay okay a glimpse inside but i'm just saying like people who like are anti-games it's like okay so you hate following whatever you know no i i feel like i'll save it i can see being anti some games i can see being anti games when you are a stranger in someone else's 100 social circle yes that's that's hell that that's hell a true nightmare is playing quiplash with a close group of friends and being the only person that the like friend of in that situation it's like if we played quiplash with the real housewives of salt lake city
Starting point is 00:34:30 i would be like i hate each other up we don't get this humor we don't know this humor yet so i'll do it different i don't think so honey but it's this thing where you sorry I'm so stoned it's this thing where people say that they don't like games you can't say you're not a game person if you were with five of your closest friends in the world five of your favorite people to
Starting point is 00:34:58 ever exist doesn't matter if you knew them or not and let's say you knew them like family then would you play a game with them then you're a game person most them like family yeah then then would you play a game with them then you're a game person most likely your answer is yes then yes you're a game person do you know what i'm remembering right now which was one of the funnest nights was when me you and pat played mario party that was so funny and i haven't announced that we tried to book pat regan for this episode but bitch was too busy we miss our girl can i say i will be going back to the eagle on wednesday nights for jockstrap night
Starting point is 00:35:30 on a semi-regular basis we had so much fun it was me pat josh aaron um ryan jones our friend yes and joel and then joel was in town oh right doing the time 100 gala and joel was like let's go to the eagle i was like oh i've always wanted to go for jockstrap night. And then Pat's like, so have I. Sam Taggart was like, so have I. But he couldn't make it. But we're bringing him next time. Get that ass out.
Starting point is 00:35:51 We were like, this is really fun, actually. I had a great time. That is a blast. Did everyone wear jocks? Most people did. The only one who didn't. I brought a jock to work for the read-through. And then afterwards.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Did you wear your jock during the read-through i didn't i was thinking about it and then i that would have been iconic behavior maybe i'll do it soon but anyway it was great and then pat and i just that boy is so important to us we love pat oh he's he's a treasure he's an American treasure. We were hoping to share our American treasure with you here today, but my girl's on script, okay? My girl's on script. For hacks. She's on outline for hacks. Oh, on outline.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Excuse me. Pardon me. Entirely different process. You see a totally different process. When you're on outline, you're saying, hmm, what if this happened here and that happened there? And when you're on script, it's more like it's happening and you're on outline you're saying hmm what if this happened here and that happened there and when you're on script it's more like it's happening and you're doing it a glimpse inside the television industry what have you wait did you watch the mole speaking of the television industry the reboot of
Starting point is 00:36:56 it yes no should i you have to oh my god joel and i loved is Is it Anderson still? No, it's this iconic woman, Alex Wagner. Oh yeah. She's sort of like, I guess, I didn't know this, but she's sort of like Maddow's replacement, I suppose. Yes, yes, yes. She's an NBC girl. Yes, I wasn't aware of her. Perfect vibe as the host of The Mall.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Okay, I'm starting tonight. I was thinking about watching Malignant, but no, I need something. No, girl. End the spooky season. Watch the social caper that is The Mole. I'm telling you, there are some iconic characters, including a woman named Joy, that you're going to be screaming
Starting point is 00:37:37 laughing at. I love it. I'm obsessed. My sister, Yang Yang, when we first moved to the US, that was when The Mole was right around the time when The Mole premiered. I remember it being, My sister, Yang Yang, when we first moved to the U S that was when the mole, it was right around the time when the mole premiered. And I remember it being, I mean, Yang was the sort of cultural shepherd for me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:52 She was the Sherpa. She kind of like was like here, you should watch this. I'm liking this. Like her friends would make her mix CDs with like, you know, like S club seven songs on them. Let's say,
Starting point is 00:38:03 and I'd be like, who's this? Like the, I need to come, who's this? Like, I need to come out and say this. Like, Yang was my portal to a lot of stuff, but The Mole was one of the first, literally one of the earliest pieces of culture I can remember
Starting point is 00:38:13 coming to the US and being like, oh, this is a fun show where people, where someone's The Mole. And it really is a beautiful show.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Beautiful show. It was really, really good. I mean, I love that it's all out now so you can just binge the whole thing. Which, by the way, I'm going to do right now. I didn't realize there was a new season of The Circle, and that's
Starting point is 00:38:31 now shot to the top of the list. Damn. Every season of The Circle is amazing. It's perfect. I am so excited. Girl, we'd die for The Circle. Lost Cult is a Circle stand show. We will do Circle recaps, potentially. Love is Blind is back in a really big way, I hear.
Starting point is 00:38:50 In a way that's shocking and depressing and very concerning. A wild season, producer Becca. Producer Becca saying, wild season. I need to tell you. Tell me. Jeff Probst was on SNL last night. Wait, I saw that. Did you meet him? I got to meet him. I got to tell you. Tell me. Jeff Probst was on SNL last night. Wait, I saw that. Did you meet him?
Starting point is 00:39:06 I got to meet him. I got to say hello. He, Celeste, was helping out. So Andrew Dismukes wrote this incredible sketch. Go watch it, but there's a twist. And Jeff Probst shows up at the end. And first, he was just written in the script. It was like an amazing turn on page eight of like, oh my God, and Jeff Probst shows up but like you know someone playing jeff probst is is there yeah you're
Starting point is 00:39:28 thinking it's yeah and then they were full-on able to get probst to fly fly from the west coast with his family and and then celestium was assisting on the sketch and they were like yeah probst is coming i was like oh my god celeste and they were like i was like do you watch survivor they were like no i don't but i know that i should and i was like celeste no you understand yeah jeff probst coming is gonna be major yes literally we had tom hanks back to do david s david s pumpkins to be in some other sketches of course like incredible experience yes could not be nicer that man everyone universally adored everyone was so excited for him to come back with like bobby moynihan but when but celeste was like
Starting point is 00:40:10 bowen i was like bringing jeff probes to the floor and everyone turned their heads and was like oh my god icon probes and then like people went up to him and he was so nice i went up to him the first time he met him was like good night's address rehearsal and i was so stupid i was like hi jeff it's so nice to meet you it's such a great season so far i just started i literally just started i love carla everyone was you were right carla is an icon and my winner and she's reached out on insta and we're in touch and we're grabbing drinks when we're in the same city oh my god it's already fast friendship period it's fast friendship. Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 00:40:47 She is amazing. And then, and then Jeff said, Carla's amazing. Don't know what that means. But then I was so stupid. And I said, and, um,
Starting point is 00:40:55 I've spoken to Parvati. I've spoken to Parvati. I've spoken to Parvati. He was like, Oh wow. No, he was, He was like, oh, wow. No, he was like, oh, wow, that's great. And Zeke. We've had two Survivor contestants.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And then afterwards, I was like... Three, Eliza. And Eliza. No, before Good Nights on Air, I was like, oh, and I also forgot to mention, like, I was friends with Zeke before he even went on the show. Yes. Oh, and I also forgot to mention, like, I was friends with Zeke before he even went on the show. Yes. And Jeff was also, of course, going off about how great Zeke is. And so I was just like, but I was like, this man was so, I explained to Celeste.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And Celeste was like, no, like he invented like a form of American television. Like, it's crazy. Yeah. You know? He is a blueprint. He's a blueprint. And then Celeste was like, I'm so impressed by how he is a blueprint he's a blueprint and then celeste was like i'm so impressed by how he is one of those people like so many times when people come to snl you know they're they're a little like perturbed by how it all works which of course but like if you tell
Starting point is 00:41:54 them okay so this is where you have to be and this is what you have to do like they get a little overwhelmed and that's totally not him but celeste was like i went up to him and i was like okay and can this line be like more of this and can you like be here and face and cheat out this way he was like yep yep yep okay great and i was like of course like this man like is yeah an executive producer of like this amazing tv show and he's just like consummate professional like this man like is involved in all of the fucking challenges and stuff yeah no he is a machine of broadcasting. He literally, we can talk about it, like, he really hosts the shit out of Survivor. Those tribal councils are long, he always has interesting ways to phrase questions, relate to everyone, be knowing but unknowing.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And I mean, he runs those episodes. Like, it is the Jeff Probst show. And those live finales were no joke i mean this guy is he's tremendous he's really really gifted at that what he does well like he was just incredible i i i i love him and i i did not i did not ask to take a picture because I was like I don't want to I just want to keep the memory and so great so great I you know what I'm watching it again now and I'm like maybe I would do it yeah you would be great I don't know if I'd be great but it would be a really fun fucking thing to do you are the next Mike White now that I've been on two game shows i need a third i need to complete
Starting point is 00:43:25 the trifecta yeah you know what i was watching earlier and i watched all of which i kind of reminded of one of your greatest performances was i watched the documentary about the bling ring alexis nires oh my god and of course they were kept saying a-l-e-x-i-s in the documentary and my own oh she was going off she just was so obsessed with herself i'm like girl no one's talking to you shut up but anyway i watched the alexis nyers documentary the bling ring thing it was so good i can't believe that happened like the t the bling ring and now i think tonight i am gonna after potomac put on the emma watson the sofia coppola movie the bling ring because i really need to watch it with my
Starting point is 00:44:11 eyes now instead of them i think it's aged quite well i can't wait and because i think even still this happens where it's like people don't take like things about teen girls seriously. Right. Especially back then when it came out. It was like, people were like, what is this? Yeah. I want a Rob. I want a Rob. That is iconic.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Is it iconic? Yeah, it's iconic. I think there's a big conversation to be had about, I think people seem to be in disagreement about Emma's performance in that movie. I think that the people that are right think it's very good. And I think that the people that are wrong are leaning into maybe they don't like her as an actress generally. But that is a good performance. I really do think it is. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I do. Whenever I think of that movie, I everybody this the iconic thing to me is that full shot of the house yeah in one take and they just do the whole thing yep genius perfect and what i love too is that that was like paris hilton's actual house and she let them shoot in there and then she fully went to the premiere and at the end of this documentary it's three parts it was really good i loved it um at the end of this documentary, it's three parts. It was really good. I loved it. At the end, they're interviewing her on the red carpet and they were like,
Starting point is 00:45:29 so what do you think people would take from this movie? And she was just like, that fame is so crazy. And like, we need this, we need to center other things. Like seriously, this celebrity obsessed culture is,
Starting point is 00:45:38 you know, it's too much. It's gone too far. And like, it's really bad and poisonous. And then she just goes and hits the carpet and it's like, it's just so funny. Like it's, it's really bad and poisonous and then she just goes and hits the carpet and it's like pussy it's just so funny like
Starting point is 00:45:47 it's wild and what was crazy about it was and if you watch you'll see every person involved wanted to be famous in some way like the lawyers the people like it was really a clown show it was a clown
Starting point is 00:46:03 parade clown brigade by was a clown parade. Clown brigade. By the way, clown parade now on Big Money Players. Please listen. Honestly, I believe in our children so much. And I believe the children are the future. I'm so proud of each and every one of these girls. These girls really did that.
Starting point is 00:46:23 No, I am truly amazed. All of them are so fucking funny. The gosh you gotta listen to greta you gotta listen to marty you gotta listen to chris desi desi you gotta listen to ricas ricas you gotta listen okay so many more people coming millie i'm missing so many people oh i cannot wait for millie i can't wait for sudi coming at the end of the year, stomping out. Wow. Oh my God, that girl. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:46:47 We spent a lot of time together Halloween weekend, Sudi and I. We party hopped. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What'd you do? Well, first, reconnected. Uh-huh. Shared time.
Starting point is 00:46:59 No, we went to this one party that was very fun, but very packed in LA. And, oh, it might have just inspired an I don't think so, honey, actually. Oops. Oops. Well, that's interesting. Should we? Should we proceed to I don't think so, honey? Let's proceed.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah, I'm dragging. I'm so sorry. Honey, no, it's okay. Bitch, we're still giving an hour of life. And after last week's Taylor, I think we're all just hung over. Yes. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:49:16 We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break
Starting point is 00:49:55 that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
Starting point is 00:50:29 See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the shit we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl
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Starting point is 00:51:15 It's a 60-second segment where we drag something. And I just want to say, like, this is not personal. Okay. Oh, for this, I Don't Think So Honey, it's not personal. This is not personal. Okay. All right. don't think so many it's not this is not personal okay all right this is matt rogers i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey if you're having a party and your bathroom situation is not together oh we got to get the bathroom situations together at a large gathering. I'm talking several opportunities to
Starting point is 00:51:47 relieve yourself locations wise. We need access. We need people to not be pissing all over the front lawn like it's mayhem because that is the only option. 30 seconds. And I'm telling you, it was like a communal
Starting point is 00:52:04 bacchanal experience peeing with everyone like it was like a it was like a beautiful chorus but not what i wanted to necessarily experience so if you're having a big big party have the bathroom situation together because it's one thing people are going to need to do is use the bathroom they're gonna they're gonna probably want to drink five seconds imbibe conversate they're gonna need to use the bathroom i don't think so honey if they can't oh that's one minute yikes gotta have the bathroom situation together you need to walk me through this i did go home with someone from that party that absolutely split me in half. I love that. Oh my god. Someone we know? No. Oh brother. It felt so good to get
Starting point is 00:52:49 split in half, I'll say that. It always does. It had been a long time. Not, you know, you have sex, but getting like really just really fucking. Absolutely fucked. Yeah. Thank god. I was going to say when you're dot, dot, dot, split.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Because that's the perfect word. I don't know. I just remember being so afraid to bottom in my 20s. And now I would go back to that girl and I would say, You don't know what awaits you, child. I would just pat him on the head and say, you don't know what awaits you, child, as long as you let it happen. It's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. It's amazing. Well, I don't really think I have anything. You don't have anything? I don't think so, honey. You just said you did earlier. Well, I feel like
Starting point is 00:53:46 we covered it. Really? What was it again? The people who say they're not games people. But is, okay, then I'll challenge you. Is there a game that you don't like? Is there a game that Bowen Yang doesn't enjoy? Absolutely. What is it?
Starting point is 00:54:02 And would you even say you I don't think so, honey so honey it no because it's just it's it's i don't think so honey ends up being i'm going to try to really make my i don't think so honey's communal too many times i feel like i don't think so honey is an individual perspective on something yes the best i don't think so honeys are of course the ones that are speaking to something um relatable let's say it's relatable content and that's what the future of I don't think so honey will be
Starting point is 00:54:30 of holds so but I have something I have something well first say what the game is that you don't like I don't like custom heads up decks like when like it because that is that is the ultimate version of oh a friend of is here but we're going to play with the deck
Starting point is 00:54:45 that is very specific to us, to this friend group. I go, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. It feels like exclusion to me. Exclusion rider. Two words. Two words.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Exclusion rider. All right. All right. Well, this is Bell and Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. And what I do at this point in the show is I get my phone writer writer all right all right well this is bell and yanks i don't think so honey and what i do at this point in the show is i get my i get my phone so i can time him and i've now i've done that so for everyone keeping score at home um that's happened and his time starts now i don't
Starting point is 00:55:19 think so honey why hotels don't sell the notepads, the stationery that's in every room. It doesn't cost that much money. You would sell so many units. It is the chicest thing you can write something down on by hand. And so, I need it around me at all times. And you can't like, the only thing you can buy
Starting point is 00:55:39 on the internet is like, the Stanley Hotel notepad. Oh, hotel fucking 30 seconds like stupid hotels from culture i'm like i don't want that i want a real i want a sunset tower notepad i want an ace hotel notepad i want a hotel chelsea i just i don't and it's not even about like the idea of going to the hotel it's just about writing something down that has the name of a fancy place on it. That's all.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And there's something chic. It elevates the content of what is on that notepad. And therefore, it's important to have it. That was an iconic one minute and two seconds. Wow. Do you relate? The kingdom that you reign over is plentiful with gifts. Are you? That was an iconic one minute and two seconds. Wow. King. Do you relate? The kingdom that you reign over is plentiful with gifts.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I feel like, can I be honest with you right now? I feel like you know that I'm in a very tender, raw place. And so you're just validating the hell out of me. No. But I know that you are in a tender, raw place. It's been a hard week. And then you went out. And you're. But I know that you are in a tender raw place. It's been a hard week and then you went out and you're such a soldier for that. After your hard week, you even
Starting point is 00:56:50 went out and were a soldier. A social soldier. Title of that, social soldier. Even now, you're just gassing me up. I don't want you to do that
Starting point is 00:57:05 okay you want me to talk shit to you yeah yeah just what have I done lately that's not that what have you done lately what have I done lately that's annoyed you be honest it's honesty zone what have you done lately that's annoyed me it can be anything
Starting point is 00:57:20 it won't be too harsh I would say this okay this didn't annoy me but if i even had one it's this yes you texted me like this week to say something and didn't elaborate and i was like i i wish i knew what was happening you know what i mean like you texted me something that was just like i'm feeling this way and i was like what's going on and then i did send you a lot of texts back and you you didn't respond but i don't that didn't annoy me i was just like he's going on and then i did send you a lot of texts back and you you didn't respond but i don't that didn't annoy me i was just like he's busy in and in his feelings i'm sorry no it literally didn't annoy me let me see well i'm looking back at the texts oh yeah yeah i saw that yeah i saw
Starting point is 00:58:00 that but i feel like that's self-evident, though. I'm not defending. I had no questions that were so probing that I needed you to respond. I was just like, oh, we'll talk later. Yeah, I was just, you know, feeling something. Mars is in retrograde, everybody. Say that. So that means we're all going to have to reinterpret the way anger and conflict and power show up in our lives channy nicholas is peering into my ass this year more than others this is she is the one it's well documented on this podcast my yes skepticism with astrology now i i only i don't use it to like predict the future or like define myself necessarily
Starting point is 00:58:46 yeah but but the way chani always does astrology is that it always explains the collective mood and then like your own what might be going on in your life that you can that is not like pointing to something that like is happening but is going you can rethink of something that you're going through in these terms and And that's so useful. Isn't that so nice? It's amazing. Also, I'll say this. One thing I have to stop doing is telling every single Virgo I meet that I'm supposed to marry a Virgo.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Right. I look them in their eyes and I say, I'm supposed to marry a Virgo. Yeah. And what I was going to say is, as long as it doesn't dictate everything and puts us in a good mood, I don't think astrology should be putting us in a bad mood. I think we should be
Starting point is 00:59:36 using it to connect. Yes, I agree. We should literally... Yeah, does that make sense? What I'm saying about Chani, it's like the astrology is never like, you're going to be this today because you're a fucking bitch. Like, like the coaster or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's like, here's a tool for your life. Exactly. Like here's what's happening. Like in, in your chart and in the sky, like this is how you can think of something you're going through in these terms. And it's so helpful.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So anyway, it's why I like tarot. Yeah. Tarot is fun. Yes. And then and chenny pulls a card every week um and it's really really nice for me with mars retrograde and i think this might be for a lot of people like i am experiencing anger for the first time in a long time i did not consider myself an angry person that I did not identify as one for a long time. And now I'm back to being like very, very just on an oblivion level being like everything must be destroyed. And it's so scary.
Starting point is 01:00:38 It's so scary. You just have to walk yourself back. Yeah. You know, take a breath and understand that things are very circumstantial and you know it's but yes i mean i never want you to feel angry because that's such an uncomfortable emotion to be in because it also it also the thing is when i feel angry i also feel self-conscious about that and i just that's i hate having to manage that too. Like that, that's a, I think a side effect of anger that people don't admit is that it's
Starting point is 01:01:08 embarrassing. Well, I, I'm learning now that like anger never like gets me to do the thing I want to do better. It really never does. Some people, I believe that some people are like, oh, anger motivates me into action or it motivates me into like awareness and doing something with awareness and that's like activating or whatever and i'm like i realized i literally realized that that does not apply to me because i was angry and then like it got in the way of doing something that i was called to do
Starting point is 01:01:36 i didn't like that um sorry sorry i'm being vague readers But anyway, thank you everyone for just listening to these parts. Lending an ear to her. Lending an ear to her. Lending an ear to her. Girl. Well, girl, this was therapy once again. This was one of those, it's been a big holiday and a tough week, and we record on Sundays vibes.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yes. and a tough week and we record on Sundays vibes and that raw tender nerve that you share it is why you are a legend and I have a song for you that's going to take us out oh my god my friend is so good to me I can almost see it
Starting point is 01:02:20 that dream I'm dreaming there's a voice inside my head saying you'll never reach it think about that there's a voice inside your head saying you will never
Starting point is 01:02:35 reach it terrible I hate that voice every step I'm taking every move I'm making every move I'm, take it. I don't know the rest of that. Okay. Well,
Starting point is 01:02:48 if you want to hear the rest of it, you can listen to Miley Cyrus's album. I actually don't remember which one right now. It's off. It's off the Hannah Montana soundtrack movie. The climb. Bitch, you make me look bad.
Starting point is 01:02:58 No, you made me look bad. I know the words. You made me look bad. Fuck you. Should we end on it? Should we end on an angry note? Yes. look bad fuck you should we end on this should we end on an angry note hey yes hey fuck you oh no no we love you love you love you
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