Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Socializing Disturbs Learning" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang, both a pleasure to have in class, join together for another culture catch-up. The two flops reminisce about memories from trips to Chicago (where Matt is currently on tour), and discuss what happens when you eat too much deep dish pizza and then do choreography. Also, West Side Story (2021), praise for Steven Spielberg, Rachel Zegler (COME ON THE POD) and Ariana deBose, teachers we feel hated us and the lessons we learned from them, Vanessa Hudgens appreciation, Succession, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and "loyalty" as a personal value, reality TV casting then and now, and searing takedowns of Nyquil and room service.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling Yet again

They couldn't stop us They tried We forgot to book a guest yet again I don't know if we forgot to book a guest As much as I'm just enjoying my time with my sister lately Absolutely I really I think I'm having another

Not that it's ebbs and flows Or there's like you know, revisiting phases of like, oh, I'm in my honeymoon with my sister. Yeah. I really, I think it's, it's been a sustained many years of just thinking, I appreciate the girl. And I don't mean to say that, you know, disaster will rear its ugly head. Oh, I hope not. Oh my God. We hope not. Sorry, that was just my long-winded way of saying that I've been loving Wasted Sir.

I was actually thinking about you, well, all the time, but yesterday I was thinking about you because I am in Chicago right now. I'm recording live from Chicago. Everyone, thank you so much in Chicago that's come out to my show. One of the best cities. One of the best cities, and do you know what memory I was telling Henry about the other day, which I realized I had never told him, because i think it even predated henry is this is this going to

berlin and the man you went home with no not him although we did we did talk about him and i have told him about that because that was just a moment in time what i was remembering was do you remember when we came with pop roulette to do sketch fest yes and the time i was just talking about this with rachel amanda and sudi who also were in pop roulette like the sketch fest yes and the time i was just talking about this with rachel amanda and sudi who also were in pop roulette like the other night when we all had dinner but do you remember the time when we came to chicago and we had a huge deep dish pizza moment oh like before a show and i'm not even kidding you like we were so full of cheese and shit and food. We were stoned. We were very stoned and then we went to go to like a Giordano's

which we love. Everyone loves to rag on Giordano's. We happen to love it still. We went that night and we ate so much deep dish pizza before our show at Sketchfest. Oh my god. Do you remember just like there was choreo in the one song Beautiful Young.

Remember Beautiful Young? We were really hopping beautiful it's just us jumping up and down and you could feel everyone hit the ground on every jump like it was just we were full of cheesy shitty poop oh my god was that the same year as my dinner my fucking dinner i think that was the night of my fucking dinner because that was the night where it took so long for our fucking dinner to get there that i was like i can't wait for my fucking dad matt went into this like mobster voice or something where he was like he was like a mobster slash guma who kept saying better give me my fucking dinner haha that was true and it broke me and then we went back to this we stayed at that horrible it used to be a Days Inn I think it's a nicer hotel now

oh my god I forgot what street I'm like Diversey or something or like across from Trader Joe's and we were so stoned after the show that we watched like some CNN documentary on the 70s. And the entire time, Matt stayed in the, my dinner, haha voice. I don't even remember watching that.

I remember. And I remember crying in laughter anytime you did my dinner, haha. And that was one of those moments where I was like, this bitch is the funniest bitch on the planet. Girl, no. That was the stupidest bit but i do remember i just i just will never forget that night of well the fact is i had forgotten and i hadn't thought about it in so long and then i was just walking the streets the other night and i'm like oh my god it was like sense memory i could feel how full we were and we were doing our like jump up and down choreography and do you remember

we got off stage and it was like a race to the bathroom we all had to shit so bad because we were shaking all the cheesy deep dish pizza in our bodies during the choreo and singing which we had to sound so bad because we could barely breathe because of all the cheese and poop oh god i just we've learned so much we've come such a long way since just in terms of we would never do that to our bodies now i don't think never again now i'm just like i i don't know about you but even the littlest piece of like garbage food that i eat i feel in my body now in a way where it's like oh no wonder i could i felt like i could come to the world at 23 eating deep dish before a show now it's like no what did you do to prep for this the show last night well you know what's weird i've become

like um i've become kind of a shut-in lately because i just really don't want to abuse my voice like i really want to make sure because i have to do 11 shows all december and the thing is i'm not even just like i'm not even being like a obnoxious like you know vocalist type i'm just like i just know that i want to be able to get through the shows and it's important for the comedy that like it's sung well or whatever. And so like, I'm just trying to be literally as boring as possible and drinking a lot of tea with honey. I'm like I said, I'm off the sauce of marijuana. It's really helping. And now after my show tonight, tomorrow, I have a whole day and night in Chicago and I'm wondering what are the things I should do? Gosh, it's been a while for me. There's just so many things to do are the things I should do? Gosh, it's been a while for me.

There's just so many things to do in Chicago, but if you don't, it's one of the best cities. It really is one of the best cities. If you like have time to go up to like Andersonville or something, it's like the, it's more of like a residential gay neighborhood. Yeah.

Um, as opposed to boys town, but like, there's lots of cute bars there. But again, if you're off the sauce, even though you were met, you're off the sauce, even though you met, you referred to the sauce as marijuana earlier,

if you're off the sauce with alcohol as well. No, not after the show, I will have a cup. Oh, okay. Then go up to Andersonville. There's a,

there's a cocktail bar there. I'm sure our Chicago readers are shouting the name right now. Um, but just Google like Andersonville cocktail bar and get a martini there it's delightful and then you know other friends do you other for other friends in town you know henry's here but he's he's leaving um so we're recording this on monday he's leaving tomorrow so i have like all of tomorrow to myself which i kind of love i kind of love the experience of just being in a city by yourself going walking walking, doing the thing. I miss

being cold as much as weird as that sounds. Chicago's a great place for that. I know, and this is again this is just in reference to what we talked about last week with, you know, you thinking that Sudi may have subtly thrown shade at you, but I think you could

go to a museum if you wanted to. Perfect solo activity. Yes! Or watch a film that's in the awards race. Well, I have something to say about that.

Yeah, please tell us if you want about your experience watching West Side Story 2021. I got to see West Side Story 2021 a little bit early. And I don't know if you've been like sort of keeping up with the Oscar race of it all. We talked a little bit last week, but I have a feeling this is going to come in and clear the deck

because oh my God, is it good. It's so good. Oh my God. I can't wait. It's like, well, let's just first say, because we're still trying to lure her to the podcast, Rachel Ziegler. She gets the end introducing Rachel Ziegler

like moment at the end, like in the credits. And honestly, I had forgotten that she hasn't done a million things just because she's such a natural as Maria. And it's such amazing casting her voice is unbelievable she's got chemistry with everyone on screen she just really cuts through i mean you saw in the trailer when the when the shot of her in the gym like you this is a superstar. Oh my God. This is very exciting. It's really exciting.

This is very exciting. And she's a little monster. She is a reader. Oh my God. All the titles. All the titles. I mean, she's a reader as far as I can tell. She always, you know, DMs me shit that we say on the podcast.

And I'm certain she heard us calling for her last week. And I'm sure it's just a thing where maybe it's fucking publicists being like, maybe not. That's my only theory. You know what though? We have to get the official ask out because we haven't actually done the official ask. So we're going to talk to her. My thing is I'm this close to just DMing the child.

You should. And saying, hey, come on. We're going to have a great time. It's not going to be like, we're not going to try to get a moment out of this. It's not us making it. I don't think we do this podcast to make headlines ever. I don't think we... The lovely thing about this podcast is that we don't make headlines. The only headlines that we've made are that,

I think Andy Cohen has banned me from Watch What Happens Live, which is not even true. And I keep perpetuating that for myself against my own interests. But I think Rachel should come on and have a great time. We would have an absolutely fabulous time. And I'll say this, like,

she is unbelievable in the movie. The takeaway from it for me, when I left that theater, I felt a whole different way about Ariana DeBose. Because here's the deal. When I heard that Ariana DeBose was cast as Anita, I was like, huh.

Because I've only seen her in things like The Prom, and in Schmigadoon, she's literally playing the buttoned up school teacher. And she's got a kind of, the buttoned-up, like, school teacher. And she's got kind of, like, a thankless role in the prom. So I thought, is she going to be able to, you know, is she fiery? Like, does she really, like, have it in that way?

Oh, my God. I think that Ariana DeBose in West Side Story is the best performance in a movie musical since Catherine Zeta-Jones in Chicago. Oh, my God. It's a slam dunk, people. Of course she has that spark. I mean, she was Donna. She was Donna in the Donna Summer musical. And I knew that, but I didn't see it.

Did you see the Donna Summer musical? I didn't, but I just think, you know, that was kind of my, like, just that credit. You can't, like, flop in that role, you know? No, you may not. I was not going to doubt her as Anita at all. I'm not saying that's what you were doing, but, like, I was like, this seems pretty solid. Like, I couldn't think of anyone else who I know of who could play that.

But, I mean, I love it. I'm rooting for Ariana all the way. Queer legend. We, we, she's, she seems great. And you know,

what's an interesting fact. If Kristen Stewart wins best actress at the Oscars, like they're saying she might. And if Ariana gets what she deserves and wins best supporting actress, then two queer women will win the Oscars this year. And that would be very cool. That would be very cool. She is literally,

I mean, Bowen, then I didn't really connect that. I knew she was a Tony nominated actress for the Donna Summer musical. I didn't connect or I didn't know. Did you know that she was on? So you think you could dance? No,

but I think I did Google that. Like that came up in a Google search at one point, like fairly recently. That's so cool. She dances so incredibly well. Remember, this is like all the best of the best are going to be in this movie. And when I tell you, she sears through the screen. I was next to Joel Kimbooster and he turned to me and he was like, I mean, she's absolutely killing it. And I think we forget sometimes, like,

the role of Anita in West Side Story is maybe the best, one of the best roles for an actress. Oh, yeah. I mean, the plot entirely hinges on things that happen to her and, like, the way she reacts to things. And there is a breadth of emotions that you have

to play in this part. Your comedy has to hit. You have to hit, there is a breath of emotions that you have to play in this part. Your comedy has to hit. You have to hit like in terms of like your sex appeal, your dancing, your musicality, all of it. But then it gets really real. It gets really real. And she dramatically slayed it. And it was kind of cool because at the end of the movie, when, you know, I'm sure I'm not ruining West Side Story for anyone. But Anita gets assaulted in the movie at the end of the movie, when, you know, after I'm sure I'm not ruining West side story for anyone, but Anita gets assaulted in the movie at the end of the movie. And so in the new West side story,

the role of doc is now played by Rita Moreno who plays Valentina, who's his widow. So she eventually is, she essentially is playing that role. And so it's her, that's the one that chase all the men away that are assaulting anita and it almost feels it feels poignant in a way yeah and then rita moreno who's amazing in the movie and she sings somewhere in the movie too which is like a really cool change but she has this moment where she turns to all them and i don't want to give

away what she says but it's just like feels very full circle and sad in a way that's um that's i think really impactful and you know steven spielberg is spielberg for a reason bitch i mean it just is what it is name another legend but really though no i'm saying no i'm not even being ironic i didn't say you were honey i'm agreeing with you and i'm saying but really though because sometimes when someone says something you can say but really though as an affirmative and that's a rule of culture it's a little culture what was it 52 52 sometimes when someone says something you can say but really though as an affirmation, the man is a legend. There's not much more to say than that. When I tell you that he's directed the following films.

Go on. West Side Story 2021. Jurassic Park. That's right. Honey. Jaws. Honey. E.T.

E.T. Heard of her? Heard of her? Maybe not lately, but if you think for even a second, you remember the doll who came down from the alien heavens and made her way with Arisa's pieces and into the hearts of millions.

Lincoln? Lincoln. One of the tallest gays. One of the tallest gays. That's a really culture. That's really culture number 40. Lincoln? Lincoln? One of the tallest gays. One of the tallest gays that's a real culture that's real culture number 40 Lincoln one of the tallest gays I mean between him I really

again this is a lot of directors but I really appreciate a director who is as sort of what's the word like successful as him but also like versatile prolific and dynamic there are directors who are prolific but not versatile and i think like the only two i can think of right now are like spielberg and like angley and there's of course there's so many

others but i just think like those are two directors who like can do it all and i think they like going after things that are very different from one another. And I think Spielberg has always done that. I also think even in his very mainstream fare, in his mainstream efforts, there's something real at the

center of it. All of his stuff is mainstream, of course. But yeah. It's something real. By nature of being a Spielberg movie, it's going to come out and people are going to be seeing it, but he's not shy about putting messages in his movies. No, no, no.

I mean, you heard it here first. Steven Spielberg is good. Rules of culture number seven. Steven Spielberg is good. He actually is very good and i mean the thing is he he fucking knocked this out of the park what's your experience i'm wondering though because you were a child of sound of music as we famously got to the root of really a year ago when we did the

12 days of culture and we did one on when jaws ate the girls and we sort of had one of our i think best discussions one of the best narratives one of the best narratives was about how i was a jaws child and you were a sound of music child were you also a west side story child i was not really a west side story child i was introduced to it in school yeah in middle school um i had always known about it i knew about like i feel pretty i knew about when you're a jet i knew about america um but it didn't make sense to me until we like studied shakespeare in middle school and like our teacher mr bot who hated me but he was this like hippie man who, and he like every year he did for the eighth graders, he did a sixties unit and it was so fun. And like every group did like a sixties,

like a project on something in the six, in the sixties, I got it kind of got steamrolled into this group where Vicky Reese Jones made us do Vicky, if you're listening, hi, I think she made us do a Pink Floyd. We did it. We did something on Pink Floyd. I have no, still have no affinity for Pink Floyd whatsoever. Love the dolls, but were never for me, still aren't for me. I don't love the dolls. I don't love them. Everyone else got

to do, like, you could do anything from the 60s. So, like, you could do, like, I remember someone did, like, I Love Lucy, or just Lucille Ball. Yeah. Because I guess I Love Lucy is kind of technically 50s into 60s sort of you know bleeds into that yeah yeah but like you could do like anything from the Vietnam

War if you wanted to be a you know a boy about it you could do like obviously people did the Beatles but like it was so fun anyway West Side Story was part of the Shakespeare unit. And it was just like,

my mind had been blown. It was my first time. Like I think it was around that time. Like I watched into the woods, like the PBS, like recording of it and West side story. I was like figuring out who Sondheim was. And,

um, yeah, I, I was just kind of like really naturally proselytized into the legend of West Side Story. That was all fascinating and interesting, but I need to circle back to one point

because it's one of the other lost culture narratives that I'm sort of discovering. This teacher's name is Mr. Dobb? Mr. Bott. Mr. Bott. And you said, he hated me. Yeah. And can I just notice a pattern about you?

A lot of teachers hated me? Yeah. What is this? Like, did a lot... Do you have it in your head that a lot of your teachers hated you? Or were you a little shit? Because I was a little shit. And I got like...

At home, I was like kind of boring, kind of a weirdo. Didn't really... I just wasn't that social and then i would get to school and i would like just let it all out like i really the way i the way this kid was able to bisect his life compartmentalized down compartmentalize it down down was really crazy and so mr bot really disliked me oh Oh, this was seventh grade. Okay. Seventh grade was Mr. Bot. And then eighth grade, the teacher who hated me, who hated me was Mrs. Fox. Wow. Mrs. Fox really hated me. She was this like young, gorgeous science teacher who was about to get married. She was such a good teacher, but I was, she kept a check. She kept like a clipboard and each class, a different student had the clipboard and if you misbehaved then like the person would have to like mark you

down like put an X next to your name and like you got many X's I got so many but Mrs. Fox and I loved SNL so I would bring in like clips of SNL tapes and

we would like laugh and watch them together I was such a weird fucking kid so you think that maybe school and the fact that she was your quote-unquote teacher maybe got in the way of you and Miss Fox do you know her first name uh Amy Amy Fox Amy I think that Bowen and Amy there's a story there there's a story that we never got to hear which is a friendship between Bowen and Amy and the I think the tutelage of Mrs. Fox and Bowen I think it got in the way you know what I mean yeah yeah I for sure what were you what were your um what were some teachers who you bumped heads with here's the deal I used to get all the time so this is weird

but like um I actually was a rather serious kid when I was like in second third and fourth grade I took school very seriously. I think subconsciously I knew I had something to overcompensate for, which was gay. And so I also, I have a coach dad and, you know, expected a lot. And so I had like a good deal of, you know, being that kid that raised his hand first and being annoying, sort of Rachel Berry disease if you will always looking at everyone's grades kind of being annoying and i remember i had this teacher mr d mr dumagard and um he like i was a huge mets fan and i would come with my mets jerseys all the time and he was a yankees fan and we had like that fake animosity but i loved him because he was so much fun and maybe me laugh what did he teach? he was my general teacher in 4th grade

at the end of the year he said to everyone he gave everyone one different piece of advice he pulled us all out in the hallway that's interesting and he was like I have something to tell you all it's different it's personalized

I have one thing I want to leave you with that I've experienced working with you all year. And so he pulled me out in the hallway and he said to me, he was like, you need to have more fun. Not everything is so serious. He's like, stop taking everything so seriously because I can tell that you want to have a lot of fun, but there's something that's not letting you and you can let yourself have more fun. And I literally took it. I was like, yeah, he's right. I have to have more fun. I'm fun.

Like it's, I know that about me. You've been bon vivant ever since. And that's when I started to get the comment on my progress reports, socializing disturbs learning, socializing disturbs learning. I would get railed by my teachers for talking too

much, being too fun, I think. And they just couldn't take the heat, Beau. They couldn't take the heat. Girl, literally sister life hashtag. Literally sister life hashtag. They couldn't take either of our heats. That's what it was. No. I think you and I

always think about this. I always think about this. I always think about this hypothetical in the past. Would we have gotten along in school? I think the answer is, I still think it's no. I think we would have been threatened by the other. I don't know about threatened. I think we would have had an in school rapport that would have been really fun

we wouldn't have hung out outside of school you think you did different things than I did I was very much involved in like a athletic circle and you did more theater and I feel like probably were a lot more interested

in actual things that matter like school and didn't you do improv in high school? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I wasn't interested in any of that because we didn't have that. It was like you either did sports or you went home. Or you did theater but I wasn't doing that. So I don't think our interests would have crossed.

But in school? Mama. I think we would have been doing bits and not even knowing what bits were oh see that's so sweet i know it is oh you would have been homecoming king at my school you would have beat you would have knocked me out of the spot see i don't think that's true because i think that we would have different voting bases i think that people that vote for you would not have voted for me and who knows who knows i just but the only the only thing we can do now is have a runoff and you're gonna win no no that's so crazy everyone tag who you think is homecoming king out of me and bowen

and it's okay it's no i think i i actually think a lot of the listeners are more emotionally connected to Matt because he makes them actually... I don't think I make people laugh on this show. That's not true, Bowen. You're so stupid and a fool. I think I'm kind of like the audience surrogate being like, oh, wow, that's interesting. I don't think I'm the one here making jokes.

That is foolish. Being magical in my output. Everything that comes out of matt rogers's mouth is so beautiful and funny you shut up it's it's a crazy skill crazy talent first of all that's because you don't even need to try so hard to say things that are funny and impactful sometimes just under your breath you'll say something brilliant and i'll hear it later like listening back to the pod and i'm like wow that was so good the impact the impact is always the phrases people remember are always Matt Rodgers original that's this no and that's a fact no it's okay I don't think it's a competition I'm just saying

I'll tell you this though I'm already out on the road for like literally one day I'm so hot I'm already out on the road for like literally one day. I'm so happy. I'm so excited. I am so excited to be meeting all the readers, everyone that's coming out to the shows. I'm obsessed. It's just, everyone is so nice and so kind. We love the readers. Genuinely. Like it's just,

I can just tell that it's going to be a really fun month getting to meet all you guys. And you might even see Bo and Yang at one of the shows if you're a lucky audience member I can't wait my favorite show of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute.

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I felt too seen. Dragged. I'm N.K., and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies.

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Remember, October 22nd, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting starting on October 22nd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of what we're really talking about each other, which is mutual respect. Okay. Okay. Guess what I watched on a plane. What did you watch?

The film Respect, which was about Aretha Franklin. Did you see this i did not you should see respect starring jennifer hudson as aretha franklin because here's another thing like i think my thing with ariana de bose was like oh i don't know like maybe she's not right for this part and then she blew me away jennifer hudson i've seen act many times i think we've all seen jennifer hudson act many times and we all have different opinions on her acting. But after you watch Respect, you can't really debate Jennifer Hudson's acting anymore.

She is acting this part all the way down. All the way down. I have never... I'm one of those people who is always, always marveling at Jennifer Hudson's acting. Team J-Hud. Team J-Hud.

Team J-Hud. Oh, I'm so happy. Wait, because wasn't she supposed to sort of, wasn't she sort of in the conversation last year for awards? Well, this is the sort of thing that happens with the quote-unquote conversation is that movies like come out early in the year and it doesn't really matter how good they are because they're not coming out at the time

of Oscars consideration. Because I feel like if this movie comes out like this month and everyone sees jennifer hudson this month when people are talking about the oscars then there's like probably no question that she gets nominated but it's like this with the movie in the heights too i thought in the heights was amazing yeah that's right no one's talking about it and like talk about great musical performances like anthony ramos in In the Heights is unreal and doing things that the other girls aren't doing. And no one's talking about him. So I think just timing is so important. Yeah.

I mean, Mr. Chu will win his Oscar with Wicked, I'm sure. Oh, I mean, and did you see that sort of just what I thought would happen happened which was and I think this might have been your Lisa Barlow ask plan all along is you wanted to plant the seeds of discord about the casting of Bowen Yang as

Bach and you wanted to plant the seeds so that the fans would be like oh my god it is really a good idea and now what's happening yes they do Bowen and now what's happening in the comments of the Instagram, it's tagging John M. Chu and saying, John M. Chu, John M. Chu, John M. Chu. And you got exactly what you wanted, Lisa Barlow.

No, I'm not being... I resent that. I'm so not... I have lost respect for Lisa Barlow after this week's Salt Lake City. We have to talk about this week's Salt Lake too. Oh my God. The zoo. The zoo.

Mary M. Cosby must be i mean i mean i think we have to exile her she must not crazy she can't be near anybody it's crazy that just a year later after the 12 days of christmas the 12 days of culture rather we. We are having to remove Mary from this place in the lost cult canon because talk about a loose canon. I mean, you never know where the woman's coming from. When she, so the moment when Heather, so after she calls Heather chubby, but before she says. Oh, that was. Before she says that either Whitney or Jen reminded her her of a thug like one of those quote unquote mexicans like there was a moment that where mary was like yelling at the group like

particularly lisa or meredith about like and it just it really just made no sense what was coming like really grammatically mentally made no sense where she was like, she's not going to tell me what the group thinks of, like, literally I'm quoting her. Like, she, I was like, this woman is not well. And it's actually, and it actually like, it's, it's hit a, it's hit a peak and like, okay, so Joel Kim Booster sent you and I the mid-season trailer. And we're all talking about dissecting and being like, oh my God, this is so great. And you know, what an incredible season I really have for the longest time thought, I think it's getting bad with watching Mary now as a viewer,

because it's not fun for me anymore. And I think after this week, it's no longer fun for me. See, I would counter that by saying I had a very fun time watching the episode. And I did laugh out loud multiple times, which I can't say for every single episode. It's been so engrossing lately. It hasn't really been funny.

But in this episode, I truly was laughing out loud several times. I find that Whitney is the reason why I'm invested. Whitney is a star for all time. Star. Mary is like, it's really, capital letters, hard to watch.

Like the fucking 30 Rock movie. It's so, it's so, it's really tough. And she's just this bad person. I'm sorry. And she's bribing people with shit. It's so crazy. Well, here here's the thing here's the thing about like so for people that that don't know apologies but um basically some other person in like like that's like uh you know attached to their friend group that used to be a

member of mary's church who's now passed away said he's passed away cameron's passed away cameron died yeah oh my god yeah so cameron died so you can't you can't um get any information about about what his experience now all we have is what he had said on the show so basically here's what happened so this guy used to be a member of mary's church and left the church like and it was it was not good like it was like he now says that he experienced quote-unquote religious trauma as a result of being in her church and when they when he brings that to meredith at this event she's really uncomfortable because she's friends with Mary and she doesn't know what to think. So this ends up getting twisted and turned.

And finally, it's at the point where it's like so much has been said about her church and like the way that she runs the church or whatever that it's been called a cult. And the fact is like none of us can ever really know that that's true unless more people come out and say things. And he was the only one who said something. And now they're saying that basically his illness that led to his passing may have resulted in him not being clear about what he was saying. So now the narrative is everyone that doesn't want to believe that he had quote unquote religious trauma and Mary's church is like, well, remember that Cameron was very ill and his ability to remember things and articulate his actual emotions and feelings may have been impaired.

So that's, that's, I see now. I mean, that's, that's the perspective that like Meredith is taking. That's the perspective that Mary spicy now. I mean, that's the perspective that like Meredith is taking. That's the perspective that Mary is taking. So now it's like split the group up into

factions. Can I say something about Meredith? Yeah. Like clearly someone who really cares about loyalty and like that's why she's siding with Mary in a lot of this because according to Meredith, Mary was the only person who like didn't spread rumors about her and seth in season one and i'm like is loyalty that important

to you that like you i just it's disappointing because it's like shit that like she it's like it's like you know who else like is obsessed with loyalty is jen you know who else is obsessed with like status in the same way is Jen. Like Meredith and Jen are not that dissimilar to me. Just like from a macro point of view, if someone says that one of their top things is loyalty,

that is a huge red flag. Because why? Do you care about loyalty? I don't give a shit about loyalty. No. I mean, here's the thing. If you did something really wrong like if i found out that i don't know what's something that you what's a crime you could possibly commit that i found out that i like committed wire fraud on the elderly like what would you say like if i found out that you were preying on people i would be like hey i

think that this is really wrong. And you know that I care for you and love you, but I want you to either, I want you to own up to this. And I also want you to get help. Like, and I'm not going to stand here and excuse any part of what you've done. And also, I wouldn't think that you would want me to do that. Likewise with me, like if I was ever really in trouble, would I want you to be there for me yeah but also part of being a friend is I think holding people accountable and then helping them see

how they can improve but also like if someone is a harmful person if someone is a criminal and there are victims like at that point it's different and to see Heather's blind loyalty to jen is really weird and i know she's like the hero of the show her and whitney but not one of these

people is like morally clean slate at this point because the loyalty of it all the word that keeps getting thrown around it's just really even on beverly hills too when someone is in a really tricky situation like this legally speaking loyalty comes in very at very weird times and it makes me like lose respect like we're saying like for the people who like bring it up and i'm like i just i i don't know it's it's very I don't know. Like all of these women now are like, except for honestly, Whitney. Whitney is the only one that I'm still like would hang. You know?

I think that Lisa saw a fracture in our friendship and swept in in order to control me. Wow, Vanessa Bayer found it dead. Vanessa Bayer's impression of Whitney Rose found dead. Whitney is cracking me up. I love her so much. What a great person. There's only one, Bob Rose.

Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. I had the fucking chills. I had the fucking chills. I mean, I have a sugar daddy. So many good quotables. So many great moments. She's risen to the top. I think she's one of the best. I mean, between her and Wendy, that's the tie for best housewife.

Also, it's so funny to me that Jen Shah is not on this season at all. We haven't even got... Obviously, the last few weeks have been her sorting things out. I think based on the mid-season trailer, she's coming back in full force.

She's definitely coming back in full force. Just how they all get in a room together again, I don't really know. This trip to Vail was absolutely insane. Also just like, I can't stress enough and probably one of the funniest scenes of the season was Whitney being like

you guys all got gifts. What did you get? And then they all went around and said what designer gift they got from Mary who's sitting there in the, I have to say, the most hideous clothes I've ever seen. Time and time again, wearing the most hideous clothes I've ever seen. She's not okay. That's another red flag, though. When someone calls themselves a fashionista, that's a red flag, too.

And they dress like that and if you call yourself a fashionista no you are a walking red flag don't tell me that loyalty is important to you that makes me feel like you've done something wrong but i have to be loyal to you through the pickup and if you say you're a fashionista that is placing a really high bar it drives me nuts like these women who are like obsessed with fashion they show up we're looking like sutton i'm sorry oh yeah for a sudden that's tragic i mean we call ourselves culturistas and we don't know shit about culture but we know that about ourselves it's ironic the irony jumped out the irony jumped out when you do clownery the clown comes back to

bite comes back to bite i'm waving my pencil i thought i remembered that line from charm school monique thank you the first time in a long time and i laughed and laughed at how perfect it is. Perfect television. It's simply perfect. Pretty much everything that Monique did on that season was amazing. Although, you know, it is like, she really was cashing a check.

Of course. But I miss that. I miss that era of reality TV that ended so abruptly after that guy and Megan wants a millionaire was found out to have killed someone. They couldn't do any more of those shows. And I think that really was like VH1 won the lottery with those shows. It just

became their challenge where I Love Money became the challenge. And I just really miss that era yeah i think the problem with that era was that it was very exploitative and pretty much the people a hundred percent you met icons i mean it birthed tiffany new york pollard like we for that we have to give it its props but i think that unfortunately what they were not doing was checking

to see if these people were actually batshit insane. And now I'm thinking, when you cast reality TV now, you are looking for insane people. Mary is such a controversial topic, and I think the Bravo world

and the universe of it all because you're like, is it worth it? Like, I don't know. What were you going to say? No, I was just going to say like, I think they're looking for people who are crazy without being a danger. Because that's the thing is I think that in that old era like some of those people

if they looked even a little bit further they would see, oh, this person is potentially a danger. Whereas Mary, I don person is potentially a danger yeah whereas mary i don't think is a danger then again we don't know necessarily no you think she might be a danger cold stuff aside i just think she's a dangerous person to have on television can you unpack this because she's like a virulent racist like it's very clear now like it's like i don't want that.

This woman isn't fun to me anymore. And she's calling Heather chubby and all this shit. I didn't like that. I really didn't like that. I'm sorry to sound like thin-skinned, but it's not even that. It's just that I am not enjoying

this person. My thing with Housewives is it helps it goes such a long way when i enjoy the people that's my potomac is my favorite even though i don't like some of them i mostly like all of them but they're the worst with body shaming and they're i mean we stand candace but she's certainly said some uncouth things but then like i don't know candace is very complex um candace also was roundly humiliated on this reunion in a way that might be karmic who knows like like there are things that like there are comeuppances that are just big and small enough the stakes aren't too high on potomac solid feels like the sticks are very high oh yeah and i love it i know you love it i love it too but i just

think i don't know i'm like there's something about salt lake this season like it like is no longer like that enjoyable to me jen shaw step aside jenny's a full flop i'm so sorry jenny's jenny just once again like there was a moment where like i think it was after they had the conversation and meredith is talking to Jenny about something and Jenny was just agreed with her in a way that was so uninteresting. I think I said out loud, Jenny, once again, not adding anything

meaningful to the conversation. When has she ever chimed in and said something where you're like, oh, wow, never, not once on this damn show. I think in the beginning of the season when she was initially telling her story about how she came to America and also like an incredible life

story. I just think she's a bad, I don't care for her on television. I think that that's definitely true. I would say that she does not offer anything in I mean, we saw like this in that coming attractions where she like slams a glass on the ground in front of Mary. I would say that she does not offer anything in... I mean, we saw in that Coming Attractions where she slams a glass

on the ground in front of Mary. I'm like, I'm also over them breaking things. I don't know. Jen did that last season and it was reaped of staging and desperation and I'm just like, yikes. Desperado,

why don't you come to your senses have you watched Tick Tick Boom yet? I haven't I'm so bad I gotta watch it I'm really behind on culture I only say because there's a song called Come to Your Senses and Tick Tick Boom and it's really a moment

and it's a duet between Vanessa Hudgens and Alexandra Shipp and can I just say, I think I'm way back on board the hudge train because I just saw her architectural digest and she's got a beautiful home. I thought she was amazing and tick, tick, boom.

And I'm like obsessed with Vanessa Hudgens. I mean, I get it. And like, I think, you know what I think has aged very well, unfortunately, and this is not for me to say,

but I believe that this has aged well is it just in terms of like an iconic moment early covid but you know i mean maybe i shouldn't be doing this is amazing i think i mean people are gonna die but isn't that like inevitable maybe I shouldn't be doing this she's like clearly like wine drunk like on her insta live plastered I thought you were gonna say when you hit that shablam oh yeah I mean that's like

I'm so into smoking right now that was important because it was able to like everyone was able to like, everyone was able to zero in on like the type of person she represented in that moment, which was like a cis woman, straight, let's say, who like was just kind of like, I don't know, trying on these different terms for size. And like, and shablam is like not an incorrect term for it.

No, that is what it is and she's got a dance background an extensive dance background you forget she's like a musical theater machine that's why she gets cast in all this stuff like i just think i just think she's i've always thought she's great i think she's fun and i've also heard that she's fun like yeah we i don't know her but i i know some people that are friends with her and apparently she's like a very, very, very good vibe. When you have a song called Sneaker Night, you have to have a good night. This is what people don't talk about enough.

A good vibe? Yeah, go. No, no, no. I'm saying people don't talk about Sneaker Night enough. Sneaker Night is like one of the ultimate getting ready songs. Sneaker Night is a floor filler. It's a anthem. It's a floor it's a anthem it's a pre-game classic it's a pre-game classic it's forget about pre-game it's it's it's during the game you can put it on you know how many times like out in la like we've put on sneaker night just to like make sure that

everyone can get on the same page and people just fucking calibrate to that shit. They're like, oh, it's a sneaker night night. Got it. I mean, listen, I've been to parties that were sneaker night themed. Okay. I've seen what they're not, what they haven't done, which they must do is there must be a sneaker night lip sync on Drag Race. Sneaker night is one of the most famous songs that no one talks about. They were singing it at weddings. At funerals. At funerals. At graduations. At funerals. They were singing it at weddings. At funerals. At funerals. At graduations. At funerals.

Children were singing the song. Children were singing the song. At Sneaker Night, even from the beginning, put your sneakers on. We're going dancing all night long. Just from the very beginning, like the sort of breakdown that starts it. I'm like, whatever that is.

I got somewhere to be wow it's so good i think vanessa hudgens was the artist yeah she is people forget she is an artist she has lasted like i remember i was like i was watching the architectural digest and i'm like this house is beautiful how does she afford this? And then I remember she's booked for decades. Since like 2007 or whenever High School Musical came out. Literally. Oh my God. God bless her.

We are rooting for her always. Well, she's in. And no one ever, ever forgets that her father passed away days before Grease Live. I think the day before. The day before.

I mean, is that not insane? Truly. I also think, just to bring it back, she's so good in Tick, Tick, Boom. And there's a song called Therapy that she does with Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield is another one. He's so good. Another Drag Race guest judge. Yeah, just great. Andrew Garfield is another one he's so good like another drag race guest judge

yeah just great he had never sang before Tick Tick Boom and I want you to see it because like I would love to know what you think because his voice sounds so good and for me he's my favorite male performance of

the year he was also great in Eyes of Tammy Faye which was also great in the eyes of Tammy Faye, which I saw. Did you see eyes of Tammy? I have not. Oh, see, that's, that's,

that's, that's camp. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Great. Love it. Good camp.

I loved it. We love searchlight pictures too. Yes. Our distributor, our distributor for fire. We, we actually, you know what?

Let's, let's try to talk about the movie as minimally as possible before it comes out. Well, have you seen it? I have not seen it. Oh, okay. I have seen it. I honestly think it's not fair for us to talk about it. No.

I think people should just think of it, judge it for themselves, you know? No, that being said, I would like to have some people from it on the pod. You know what I mean. We're going to some people from it on the pod like I you know what I mean we're gonna have people from it on the pod for sure but I just think like let's I don't want to like press my thumb on the scale too much in terms of like the release and like what you know what people say about I don't want to really have anything to do with that no I think

that we learned from shooting it it's best to try to remove ourselves from it yes as much as possible yes but it's coming and one of us has seen it and our reviews are under embargo at this time. Okay. There you go. There you go.

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So we are thinking about making this a little bit of a shorter episode because I am trying to not talk super, super much. So what do you think, Beau? Should we head to I Don't Think So, Honey? Let's do it. I love it. All right. This is our one one minute segment where we

take 60 seconds which is a minute to rant and rail about something in culture that is grinding our G E A R S and I spell that like sort of like you would have Gwen Stefani spell the word bananas sort of doing that now here with the word gears

alright so Bowen Yang is going to go first this week Bowen you have aen Yang is going to go first this week. Um, Bowen, uh, you have a topic. Are you, are you ready to go?

I'm ready. All right. This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so. Honey, his time starts now. I don't think so. Honey,

NyQuil, you taste like shit and you don't work most of the time flop. And listen, you ain't Coca-Cola. So get out of here with that cherry-flavored shit. That's cherries reserved for icons only, okay? NyQuil, you're busted. You come in the little syrup, and then we got to take a shot of you,

and then hope for the best, give it up to God, and then you wake up the next morning. How many times has this happened to you? And you go, well, that did nothing. I taste, I swallowed that disgusting acetaminophen syrup for nothing, didn't I? So let's just, I think we get NyQuil out of the conversation. NyQuil is no longer canon in terms of medicine. NyQuil is just, is basically homeopathic medicine at this point. I don't care. Put it in with the flowers and the florals and the herbal stuff. It's just as ineffective

if not more. NyQuil, you're done. That's one minute. NyQuil, more like I will find something else. Girl. You just came up with that? Yeah, right off the cuff.

Genius queen. You know what, I actually I think it always succeeds in making me want to go to sleep which I always appreciate when I'm not feeling well at night Sure It definitely does put me to sleep Is it decongesting me? I don't know, I don't know what happens

I don't think it's doing it's what it says on the label well dayquil's worse i just think vixx really needs to restructure oh have the layoffs mama lay off the people who like really scammed us and conned us with this nyquil stuff because i bet they're still around i bet they they were back there during the 30s or 40s or whenever the fuck it was invented. Pop off. We need new blood at VIXX. We need all new icons, okay? And NyQuil needs to get replaced.

I want VIXX to come out with a new line of everything. Ditch the old typeface. Give us like a bold serif font. Do you ever put that VIXX on not not cream the vapor rub the yeah the vapor rub oh that actually is amazing sometimes sometimes but they can't be leaning on that too much that can't be their only thing if they own nyquil which they do i need to see them really make their product line consistent and that's not what's been happening. I didn't know that VIX was like sort of this Rupert Murdoch type media empire of the sort of vapor rub and decongestant industry.

There's a succession narrative there. Also, can I just say... Yeah, let's talk about it. The, can I just say, yeah, I'm really, let's, let's talk about it. The concept. No,

no, no, no. I know what you think I'm going to say, what you want me to say. I was just going to bring up family businesses in general. I'm like, why are we,

why are we still doing that? But that's just me. Um, you want to talk about succession? I just want to say it's one of the most boring shows I've ever seen in my entire life. I, I, and I,

I, I know I have to give it another try. And I also know that everyone listening to this just veered off the road through their phones, etc. It's not that I stopped watching. It's that I started the first season and I was like, okay, so I'm supposed to spend... First season takes a long time. First season doesn't... It's one of those shows, and I know we're so past this now as a

culture but it's one of those shows that really picks up by the finale of season one and then season two is i think perfect television okay season two is so good and i actually am controversially going to say that this season is not doing it for me in this yeah i mean i think everyone is saying that this season is not doing it for them because essentially they're just regurgitating plot lines that they always have and that feels like well because two you had a Holly Hunter and a Terry Jones for a few episodes but Holly Hunter really like

makes you watch like there's something about her oh oh yeah Holly is one of the greats Holly's one of the greats but like season two is really great TV and I highly I think you should just stick it out until two and then you're and then you'll fall even more in love with Sarah Snook and with Kieran and with highly I think you should just stick it out until two and then you're and then you'll fall even more in love with Sarah Snook

and with Kieran and with um I mean I'll say Kieran Kieran fucking rocks and I did watch the premiere of this third season and I thought to me he really stood out oh yeah he always stands out amazing and the best way and um I don't know there was a really funny Gawker

wrote this funny reaction to this profile on The New Yorker on Jeremy Strong. Oh, I read The New Yorker profile today. And that's all, we'll just leave it at that because I think it's very interesting. Let's just say, if you want to read about my least favorite type of person, then check out The New Yorker profile on jeremy strong who sounds

absolutely insufferable jared leto level no not quite but in that sort of vein where it's like i mean clearly everyone who works with him is like constantly bombarded by his like method tactics and he won't rehearse with anyone he's cold to people on set because he won't go in the makeup trailer the same time as anyone else he won't go in with anyone. He's cold to people on set because- He won't go in the makeup trailer at the same time as anyone else. He won't go in the makeup trailer at the same time as anyone. Probably this is someone who is costing hours

and also lots of dollars to cut around him just from a production standpoint. And that to me, that type of narcissist straight male actor that does things like that, I think is a Mary Cosby level harmful.

I can't stand it. If you're saying on this episode that Mary Cosby is harmful, then I'm saying the same thing about Jeremy Strong. I'm just saying she's not fun to watch anymore, which is everything on a show like Housewives. Right. 100%. I get that.

I'm still having fun watching her but i definitely don't like the things that she said in this episode that were you know body shaming and like definitely racist i mean then even hearing that sentence come out of my mouth it's like yeah that's pretty tough i just um yeah there's no way around it like and there's like and like and like we can't sweep that under the rug the same way that i think a lot of people swept under the rug her like crazy-black shit that she's said on the show. I'm just like, why are we still hooked on this woman collectively? She certainly likes to throw around the thing of calling people hoodlums and thugs, and that's obviously coded language.

There's nothing for her to hide behind on this last episode because she literally called heather chubby and then said yeah but you can't you can't send jen was who jen who's a criminal was quote-unquote like that was jen we can't i mean you you of all people cannot be like team whitney and be like but i still like watching mary it's not that i like watching mary I think that she's still a valid part of the narrative. This is my thing. If this is the way that the season is unfolding, then I can't wait for the

reunion to watch them ask her, hey, what's up with all this language that you're using? What's up with it? Because it is racist and it is fatphobic and it is all these things. Then we'll see what happens. It's getting, it's getting too remote for me is all I'm saying.

Yep. I hear that. Anyway, that's it. You got one. I have one now. Yeah. Okay.

This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. Honey, as time starts now, I don't think so. Honey room service, because you take three hours to get to any hotel. It doesn't matter what hotel you're staying at. If you're staying at a five star hotel,

if you're staying at a one star hotel or even a motel that would have room service, it doesn't matter what hotel you're staying at. If you're staying at a five-star hotel, if you're staying at a one-star hotel or even a motel that would have room service, it doesn't really matter how much money you spent, didn't spend, how close you are to the kitchen, whatever. The room service takes forever and I don't think so, honey. It's also famously

expensive. The hidden fees, the fact that they can get away with charging $19 for a simple cheeseburger even without fries i don't think so honey room service is the only one doing it as badly as they do with these crooks yeah criminals i'm not gonna say where i am right now but i'm in a what is a lovely hotel and i found out that their room service is through a third party which of course adds 20 minutes room service is part of a third party? I don't think so, honey. It's already I don't think so, honey,

enough when it's in the hotel. All I want is a goddamn chicken sandwich with fries. It shouldn't take an hour and 30 minutes, and that's what it takes, and I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. I mean, at this point, room service is only good for breakfast, and then the rest of it, you just order like a fucking Uber Eats or Postmates or whatever the hell, and tip

your delivery person generously, but room service has really flopped especially since the pandemic and in those early stages when the hotels wouldn't would straight up just not do it when it's like okay you don't get it through surfaces it's fine like let's just make me the food please you know as someone who was in the service industry for a very long time, I'm usually someone who gives beyond the benefit of the doubt. Like even if a server is like absolutely pathetic, if there's things missing from my order, I'll still tip 20%. But it's like really hard when the reason that you're ordering room service

is so you don't have to like leave your room. Like, you know, you need something at a certain amount of time. Like you're trying to enjoy your experience and then it just becomes a stressor because it takes forever, forever. I hate having to call and check in on things. I feel so annoying again because of my time in the service industry that I give the benefit of the doubt,

but I can no longer give the benefit of the doubt for some of these room service experiences. It's like, come on now, come on now come on now huh anyways unacceptable behavior okay well um i'm glad we checked in this is a short one and still an hour still still we can say the length of a podcast yes and i will say and it's okay that we have these episodes where we're just checking in because we're both what? Busy. A little bit busy. And also the thing is when a guest comes on, we want to be able to give the guests such a time and an energy and a focus. And so the thing is like, we're trying to be considerate of everyone's time. And you got to stay focused on you right now because you're literally touring the country

singing and I have to, I don't know, go through the motions at my job. By the way, congrats on your Critics' Choice Award nomination. Thank you. Thank you so much. And I did want to say big ups to Q-Force who was nominated for Best Animated

Series. Big ups to Q-Force. Way to go, Gabe. Yeah, and all the shows I worked on were nominated, so we love to see it. Amazing. Other two? Yeah, Best Comedy Series. Okay. I was involved in that as well. Don't forget. And that's really congratulations to you. Congratulations

to both of us on the other two, second season. Oh my god. I mean, you can say it was our achievement. It was our achievement. Alright, well, we close every episode was our achievement. Um, all right. Well, we close every episode with the song. Yes, we do.

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