Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Someone Spilled Sauce" (w/ Michelle Collins)

Episode Date: June 10, 2020

Okay, SO! A lot of snafus to work through on this episode. The Lea Michele snafu. Woof. The J.K. Rowling snafu. WOOF! Even the Lady G snafu! Danngggggg! Only the icon that is Michelle Collins could help the boys wade through such waters. And wade they do! Matt and Bowen are thrilled to have Michelle, who provides some much needed real laughs after a rough few months. Sushi sauce spills, TERFS among us, little ladybug fan fiction...girl. There's a lot taken on in this epic episode. Please remember to wear a helmet when you're riding bikes, please be cognizant of where your money is going nowadays, and please enjoy the I Don't Think So Honey's on this ep, which tackle bunkers, Home Depot, and Las Vegas itself. Las Culturistas LOVES Michelle Collins and we implore you to listen to her Sirius show and check out her upcoming podcast, Midnight Snack! Like and subscroiiiiiibe! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Oh, and look over there. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And fuck.

Can I say? It is so... The first word is fuck. The first word is fuck. It's the front runner for title of ep already. I mean, the first word is fuck. That applies to a lot of stuff that's going on right now, I would say. Top of mind.

Can I say first thing? What are you going to say? JK Rowling. it's stunning. It is shocking. Let's just start this off by saying there's a lot of peripheral culture that we have yet to address that I think is-

Things happening in the background that are huge. But that demand our point of view. I mean, nothing demands our point of view, really, but like- Some of these things demand our point of view? I mean, nothing demands our point of view, really. Some of these things demand our point of view so we can move on. We have to confront these things head on so that they can be addressed and move on. For example, I mean, the Lea Michele of it all. The Lea Michele of it all, the Lindsey Graham of it all, the J.K. Rowling of it all.

I mean, there's a lot to go through. Oh, you mentioned Lady G. I haven't even thought about her. I've thought about Lady G a lot recently. I've thought about Lady G a lot in the grand scheme. I'm saying in the first minutes of our conversation, haven't even considered Lady G, and yet Lady G is waiting in the wings.

Yes, true. I want to address something straight away. Okay. You see these bandages all over my arm? Yeah, what happened? I tried to ride a bike to sort of free myself. I went over the handlebars of my arm. Yeah, what happened? I tried to ride a bike to sort of free myself. I went over the handlebars of my bike.

You have to understand. Our guest has said no. I agree. She's sick. We have to bring her in. Let's just bring her in now. I don't want to wait. I don't want to wait. Paula Cole. Call me Paula Cole.

Yeah, call Matt Paula Cole for our lives to be over. Our guest is actually a huge cyclist. She loves the bikes to call. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What? Not only cycling fan, but also we've not even realized this, but we've had Michelle on the schedule,

and yet we've done our whole survivor dance, and we haven't even spoken to Miss Collins. So now here we go. She's going to come in, and she's going to tell us her thoughts because there is much to discuss. Okay, so let's just go through the credits really quickly. Go through them because why the fuck not? Why the fuck not? She's the host of the Michelle Collins Show on SiriusXM 109.

Check her out, 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. She hosts, oh, From the Neck Up? Wow, yeah, I do host that. From the Neck Up with Adam Rippon on IG Live. Yes, we got a major network, IG Live. Tough, tough to get a show there these days. They greenlit it. That's huge, congrats.

I saw the headlines. Huge viewing audience on IG Live. That's so cool. Listen, those 400 people that watch are some of my favorite people. 400's not a bad number. 400's not a bad number on IG Live at all. That's really good.

Honestly, I'll tune into my IG Live and think it's a moment and wait and be like, hey guys, I'm waiting for you guys to come out and it's like 60 people. 60 people. The numbers are bad. I'll wait for you guys to kind of formulate.

I'll wait for you guys to get of like formulate I'll wait for you guys to get here and I'll wait all of us not all of us not all of us can be AOC and that we're like

spend the first 30 seconds being like hey hey guys it's actually rule of culture it's rule of culture number 71 not all of us

can be AOC let's say it together not all of us can be AOC wait what you're on next week's what I'm on next week's versus

it's me versus quest love and I hope people watch no you know how they do that once a week there's like this versus Wait, you're on next week's what? I'm on next week's Versus. It's me versus Questlove. And I hope people watch. No, you know how they do that once a week? There's like this Versus with like a Z and it's like two musicians, like baby face versus someone. You don't know about that?

You're going up against Questlove? No, I'm kidding. Come on. I don't know what's real. Oh my God. My favorite part of IG Live is the first five seconds when you have like 2000 viewers and I'm like, oh my God.

And then everyone's like, fuck. What am I doing here? Bye. No, because honestly, whenever you log on to IG, how often is it that you accidentally go on someone's live? All the time. Well, it's sad because it shows you how fucking often I'm on it. Like I'm always clicking and tapping and looking and DMing and it's like, it's sad because it shows you how fucking often I'm on it. Like I'm always clicking and tapping and looking and DMing.

And it's like, it's sad because it really shows you. I should also add, before we continue that, I also, in a couple weeks, have a podcast coming out. That's a breaking news. What is it called? Tell us all about it. I don't know if I'm allowed to say the name, but I will. It's called, when is this coming out? Wednesday.

This week. Wednesday. This is called, tell me if you like the name. Okay. Okay, ready? Midnight Snack snack with Michelle Collins I love it I don't think I don't think you'll ever I don't think you'll ever beat the name of a podcast that you used to host that was formerly called fresh batch but then it changed to edit that out you would say that all the time edit that out edit that well everything i say i'm like please just like just cut that i don't want anyone hearing that i love midnight snack it's evocative it's just like it relates to food it relates to like being so sexy which you know i am never sexier than in

quarantine boys i never i look like um i'm like the third like in the white chicks too like I'm like the third, like in the White Chicks 2, like I'm the new third one. Like something happened. I have like latex face now. I don't want to talk about it. Anyway. Oh my God. Let's talk. White Chicks.

White Chicks 2. Well, the star of White Chicks 2. Everyone, please welcome into your ears, Michelle Collins. Wait, we have all of a sudden like I'm lit up because i need to talk to you about so many things like bowen you mentioned leah michelle michelle what is your take on leah michelle and all these things so i um i've had one interaction with leah michelle i did i knew you would have had at least at one interaction with her they pitched her to come on my show like a few weeks maybe three months ago right before quarantine and i was like absolutely like yes i want her to come on the show so that i could and i never do that i you know i never talk shit about any of my guests but i was just like yes like bring her on so i can see it

irl because i've had some guests come on who have been very nasty i'm sure you guys have too but i was waiting at the weho parking garage matt do you know where the celebrity target is the celebrity target is that just say where it is labrea and santa monica where crazy sushi is i'll make this quick i know the one i got like 900 don't make it quick you know don't make it quick except for my ig live show i want the details of yeah michelle please be as detailed okay so basically i had ordered all the sushi because I am a pig person. And they gave me, I like to get their house sauce, which is basically sesame oil with like a little ponzu stirred in for laughs. And so they gave me a tiny, they gave me a teeny silly good tiny little cup of it, which they knotted the bag at the top.

Like the bag was full of styrofoam. They put this little oil cup in the middle. And then they did like a balloon knot with the bag bag at the top like the bag was full of styrofoam they put this little oil cup in the middle and then they did like a balloon knot with the bag handles at the top like there was like no nothing left so i'm holding this like 48 pound bag of sushi and i'm waiting by the elevator between the bevmo and the jersey mics if you know la you know where i'm talking about which by the way that elevator is like has summoned demons before Because one time I got in it and a man with blue whiteout contact lenses came on. And I was like, one flip-flop on and I was freaked. And he went, oh, are you going to cry?

No. In the elevator? No, he's got to go. I'm also just bracing myself for how Lea Michele is involved in this sushi conglomerate. I'm literally already weeping. I'm crying. No, don't cry. Are you going to cry?

Are you going to cry? Anyway, so I'm sitting there and all of a sudden this fucking oil cup falls out of the bag. Breaks open, spills all in front of the elevator. It's like... Ponsu and sesame oil. Sorry, sorry. I keep interrupting you. The door opens. No, interrupt. The door opens

and who steps out? And her boyfriend. And I didn't even see that it was her. He walked out first and then it was her. Going to Bazmo, by the way. And I said, I said, hey, hey guys, watch out. Someone

spilled sauce! Michelle! Oh my god. I went, hey, I'm holding a bag of sushi! Wait, was this after she had been pitched as a guest on your show? No, no. This was like five, six years ago.

This is a while ago. Oh, okay. Oh, no, no. This was so... She wasn't with her husband, Lanny Reich, or whatever his name is. So... What was her reaction to the situation? And meanwhile, she didn't know that I spilled it.

So I was actually being nice. I went, hey, guys, like, watch out. Somebody spilled sauce. I don't know that i spilled it so i was actually nice i went hey guys like watch out somebody spilled sauce yeah it's like everywhere like why would i know it's sauce i guess i gave myself away so what did she do someone spilled sauce is what the podcast should be called. Someone spilled sauce. It's so much funnier. Someone spilled sauce. Oh my god. Bonzu and sesame oil from Crazy Rockin' Sushi.

I'm like crying now. Anyway, so I said it and she went, like to me, like really rolled her eyes. I was in the one second interaction i had instead of going oh thanks sir ew or whatever like a normal sauce reaction she was like like as though i even like attempted to talk to her i didn't even know it was her other than her mug

which is like uh michael's halloween display you know and then the boyfriend who was cute was nice and smiled and went, oh, thanks. And I was like, is she still with him? No, she got rid of him. And then actually I have another friend who DM'd me that was like, oh, is this the guy? And I can pull up who it was. They've broken up and I bet he has some good stories. We should have him on the show.

Oh my God. We should have him on the show just for Lea Michele T. Yeah. Oh my God. We should tell everyone. Someone spilled sauce. Someone spilled sauce. Someone spilled sauce. We should tell everyone that doesn't know.

Lea Michele has been called out by dozens of cast members of Glee for her sort of, like, very rude, dismissive, nearly abusive behavior of the background actors. Yeah, I would say. Creating a toxic atmosphere. But specifically racist. I mean, the whole shit in her wigs thing is like a full-on...

Yeah, that's specific to a black woman. There are a lot of people who have been saying, like, no, she's not racist. She was horrible. Like Heather Morris wrote on Twitter or Instagram. Like, she's rancid to everyone like it's almost

like she's colorblind because she's just nasty to everyone yeah but i feel like you're absolutely right like if you say something like shit in your wig that right there you can be rancid plus racist yeah you can be both you know yes absolutely does not preclude you from being racist but um being rancid does not mean you can't be racist. Actually, real culture number 50. Being rancid does not mean you can't be racist. So what's your take on this whole thing, Michelle? We want to know.

Here's my take. I think that it has been the... Who, me? Me. It has been a known thing that she is rotten. Like a rotted soul. And I am actually shocked that it's taken so long for people to even kind of like out her for it because she's so horrible. I got texts from people I haven't talked to in ages who like famous people who I don't know well, who I love.

I've changed. Well, I have changed. Famous people who I don't know, who I love. I've changed. Well, I have changed. Famous people who I don't know who I love. I love. Who I love. Maybe because I haven't laughed in so long, I feel like I'm on something extra. This is the first time I'm laughing

genuinely in two weeks. So people have reached out to you and been like, oh my god, thank god, things about her have come out because I can't believe the things that happened to me with her. Like legit without naming this person, someone said one day we're going to have a fireside chat and I'm going to tell you my stories and you're going to shit. And I was like, I, and he lives in LA and I was like, I will literally fly to Los Angeles for that alone. Like that to me is so exciting. I'm sure she's, what do you classify that as?

Just being like a fucking, like, how does someone become that mean? I think that she is just like one of those. Well, I was watching her Insta live with Amber Riley and she was saying to someone, she was like, I'm not going to sit here and say that Lea Michele is racist. I'm not going to say that because i have my experience with her whatever but i can't say that flat out here in the insta live what i can say is that as a result of this conversation a lot of people have been dming me saying that they have felt abuse by the hands of the white girl stars of whatever show they were working background on which is obviously not surprising like these girls like and these people who star in shows they really think that everyone works for them

um which is honestly if anything else it's a good reminder that that is an insane thing to think you happen to be lucky to be the person that is the star of that show it does not mean you are talented period it also does not mean that you are talented with, more talented than everyone else that's working there. But you want to know what's so, the fun little whipsaw to all this is, is that I remember distinctly when Glee first came out, Lea Michele was doing all this press

and doing all these interviews where she, the sort of repeated line was that like, she was like, yeah, I was struggling a lot when I first came out to Hollywood. Everyone said I was too ethnic. You know, I, which isn't that so funny that she was like, yeah, I was struggling a lot when I first came out to Hollywood. Everyone said I was too ethnic. You know, I, which isn't that so funny that she was like building up this oppression narrative that she was like, yeah, you know, I'm Jewish and I'm too ethnic for Hollywood. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

It's every Harvard application essay. Back when I marched for the living, and by the way, I'm Jewish, so I can make that joke. When I marched for the living and I thought of all of those who had died, I knew that I was taking this to eat out. That shit. Yes, it's that. She is, listen, I wouldn't say she's, I feel bad now that I called her a Halloween display. You know, listen, she's talented. She's really talented. By the way, the name of the guy she was with, Matt Petz. That was the name of the guy she was with

Matt Petz that was the name of the guy that's a disgusting name first of all we have to say it right away Matt Petz no you put a misfire right there what are you going to be Leah Petz it might be Petz

it's P-A-E-T-Z we're saying it's Petz it's Petz for-E-T-Z. Girl, for me it's Leah Pets. We're saying it's Pets. It's Leah Pets. It's Pets for us. Did you see the... Pets are us. Did you see the Daily Mail headline today, though? Which I found very interesting.

Love those messy whores at the Daily Mail. They are so fucking messy. And they have fucked me over in my time. And I still click every day. Just awful. They said, Michele has allegedly had a real wake-up call and wants to handle things responsibly amid backlash over her past onset behavior. Thoughts?

Honestly, what can she do at this point? What she should do is she should just relax have her baby and like then focus on things she can do after the fact like like but right now she's six months pregnant and i i that's the only thing that makes me worried about the whole situation is like oh there's like a child that's gonna like have to deal with all the stress that she's experiencing right now yeah but she's she's like she's wealthy it's fine It's fine. It's truly fine. And I'm saying she should have the baby, hand it off to whatever care she can pay for,

and then work on herself. I feel like I can only map this onto, like, Katherine Heigl's career, maybe? Like, just having, like, such a flashpoint of, like, someone being, like, someone reputably being a bad person or whatever, unprofessional or whatever it is faye dunaway faye dunaway has not been canceled uh-oh i mean she's old i think you make excuses i think so you honestly context it makes sense yeah she was fully raging in her own time but here's

the thing is it's like imagine being known as a nightmare in that time like what you would have been like now yeah I do love me some Faye Dunaway but I know that she definitely has ruined lives and at least I mean listen what else has Lea Michele done after Glee no one wanted to

well there was that one show The Mayor what? it was like an ABC show where it was like yes about this i think i'm gonna mess up the premise this guy who runs for mayor or something it was a young black guy who like ran for mayor and gets elected and i think he wasn't

taking it seriously it was just like a whatever like a stunt and he gets elected mayor and she becomes like his chief of staff yes i remember these billboards i did not watch all the billboards were like the guy who becomes the mayor front. And then Lea Michele on the back. Like it's arms crossed, arms crossed.

Like I'm going to be the serious one. Like, it's so funny. The sitcom thing of like the billboard and the side characters in the back, like imagine being like the fourth person in the billboard, like standing back, like, and you know,

I serve a purpose in the show that's who I auditioned for and I have never gotten cast in my life to be the fourth person ever do you think I can say I've also never been cast yes that's so sad but we're talented and we're attractive can you can you imagine how much sauce

the background doctors on the mayor have to spill oh we need them all on. Honestly, we're coming up on our 200th episode. Episodes 200 through 300 need to be all mayor background actors. Yes, yes, yes. We just need to find out what happened on the mayor. Can you just never not be the dumbest?

I love you so much. I truly, you're the only two that make me laugh. And that's our show. I had a so much. I truly, you're the only two that make me laugh and that's our show. I had a great time. Thank you for having me. You know what I genuinely love though? I love hearing tea about like old sitcoms. I have a friend that was a writer on Desperate Housewives

and he'll tell me about like ways that Felicity Huffman acted, ways that so-and-so acted and it's just so funny to hear that it was not at all what we thought like Terry Hatcher was not necessarily the nightmare on that show like in hidden ways Felicity was the nightmare on that show because

she was like rude to the writers or like you know Nicola Sheridan was like actually a full monster but that doesn't mean that Mark Trayden slapped her across the face because he did did he? yes he slapped her across yes yes imagine that imagine honestly though the the whole glee thing one of the darkest it's so tragic we've ever heard so so many tragedies

all intersecting on one damn show overdoses um if i was on that show i would be quaking right now like like yeah well amber has a good career little sweet chris colfer who we love so much they must have someone should write a glee book that book would be purchased someone i mean what we need is for chris colfer to write a tell-all about the book because i say this with love not doing too much else. And I think wants like a- Oh, little baby Chris. He's so sweet. But I mean, a sweetheart, but like wants to write. And I think he came up with that.

He wrote that film, Struck by Lightning. And so if he wants to write, what I want to hear is the tell all of what happened on the Glee set. Did you just make that name up? What happened on the Glee set?

He wrote that film, Watch Out for That Car. Heide? He wrote that film. Watch out for that car. He wrote that famed film. He literally wrote a movie. Your order will be ready in a second, sir. Have you seen that? Wait, I have

I'm literally typing into Google Chris Colfer film. Struck by lightning. Struck by lightning. Here itfer film. Struck by lightning. Here it is. 2012. It came out. I'm going to read about it to you.

It's an American coming of age comedy drama film directed by Brian Donnelly, the famous director, and written by and starring Chris Colfer. Wow. It had its world premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival on April 21st, 2012. Well, good for him. Lovely. He's such a sweetheart. Do you know him? I've never

met him. I do a little bit. He's really, really sweet. Yeah, that's why I'm like, I won't say anything bad about him. No, but you should write a book. He should write a book. What I'm saying is though I want to hear the tea. Because also, I have genuine curiosities about

what the situation is between Lea Michele and Jonathan Groff, whether or not they're actually BFF. Can you even imagine? And he's a sweet, he's lovely, Jonathan. Have you met him before? We're not friends. Is this my mic? Strike my lightning too. We're not friends.

But I've interacted with him and he's very very sweet but you never know you know maybe she like got her eagle talons in him at a young age and just took off at a young age

you know you just don't know you just don't know right so Leia's a nightmare wait what else we were talking about Joanna Kathleen oh

there's Joanna Kathleen Rowling there's but Michelle has said that she famously has never she's proudly never read a Harry Potter book I saw that tweet that you've proudly never read a Harry Potter book we're proud of you I've never

I tried to read the first one years and years ago someone gave me their paperback I could not crack into that book I just was like I don't fucking care about this and now I win you do win I cared so much Bowen cared so much crack into that book. I just was like, I don't fucking care about this. And now I win. And you know what? You do win. I cared so much. Bowen cared so much.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But my theory now is that, and this was even before she fully just was guns blazing as a transphobic, but like as a transphobic, but like the books, if you read them in your adulthood, you have to

read those books within a certain window of your life, of your development as an adolescent. Because now if you read them as an adult, it loses something. I don't know. Well, they're not written for us. No, exactly. One thing is you'll not just be as wrapped up in it at all.

But I mean, the goblins at Gringotts Bank, people say they're anti-Semitic. They are literally hook-nosed goblins that Gringotts Bank, people say they're anti-Semitic. They are literally hook-nosed goblins that are like, they just... What do they do? She really goes for it. They're bankers.

They're bankers, and they're kind of just like, if you really want to look into this, they are caricatures of anti-Semitic Jewish stereotypes. Hello. First of all, I thought you were joking when you said bankers. I like hey guys that's not funny no you can't say that

hey i can't believe that they're literal hook-nosed bankers that's a hitler cartoon i mean i almost want to show you a picture but they have the theme park rides in universal studios and if you go do i know do they are they i think i know what they look like send me a picture of it do you guys know that roald dahl is a very famous anti-semite yeah and i never i never knew it until i was in um i love telling the story i was in budapest again that's our time no i was i really was i was in budapest and there was one english bookstore i bought the auto boosts of roald dahl thinking i'm so fucking smart whatever i was 19 i 19. I started reading it. And there was this story. You can look it up on Wikipedia where it's like this couple,

this woman has lost a lot of her babies and she's pregnant again. She goes to the hospital to deliver. And the father is like, push, honey, push. And she's like, oh, I just don't, I just want to make sure the baby's going to be fine. And it's like stressful. And you're like, oh, have the baby. Like, yeah, you do it.

And the baby is born and the doctor comes in and she goes well doctor well how she goes how is he is he okay and the doctor goes yes yes he's going to grow up to be very very strong and very powerful mr and mrs Mr. and Mrs. Hitler oh no yes that is a Roald Dahl short story and I was like huh and then I was like shaking and then I went and googled it and he's an anti-fucking Semite James and the Giant anti-Semites

yes James and the Giant Jews what do we do about and also like wait Michelleelle what is what is your know-how about walt disney well why was he well you know it's funny you bring that up actually because i was gonna almost do my you don't i don't think so honey about disney that's so funny because because and i'll make it quick because i'm talking a lot. No, this is all we want. I'm not kidding.

Looney Tunes. You know that if I could kiss all of your little toes individually, I would. Looney Tunes was released. God, you look great. You have nice feet, Maddie. Babe, thanks. Honestly, they're not nice. I fell over on my bike and tore them all up.

But anyway, keep going. Oh, the bike. I want to ask you about that in a second. We'll talk about the bike next. I'll make it very quick. I have often said that I was never a Disney person growing up. I like would watch here and there, you know, goofy because I was goofy, obviously. But like I would watch some of that, but I never got into it.

And I liken it. I say that Disney is like the alt-right Christian. Like I don't want to say alt-right, but Disney is like super Christian, super American, devoid of any humor, and that Looney Tunes is like a Jewish paradise. Like, Looney Tunes is so Jewish. And just more, I don't even want to say Jewish, just more like ethnic.

Like, Looney Tunes just incorporates, like, people who have problems. It's like Seinfeld animated, basically, for me. And I just wanted to just say that I actually hate Disney. Was Walt Disney an anti-Semite? Would not shock me. I don't know, Poe. Do you know about this?

I haven't really ever looked into it. There are rumors that Walt Disney was an anti-Semite. The Song of the South of it all is wild. It's so racist. When you go on Splash Mountain, this was like years ago i went on splash mountain well you know you know that i went to disney very very quick story when i was this is a hilarious story when i was on the view lol oh my god they sent you oh you guys would do your or the orlando shows there i wish no i sent me because i knew that i had like four days left

until like the papers were coming to cancel me so So I said, I want to get my VIP Disney tickets. And they were like, okay, like begrudgingly. Because I knew that I'd be like taken care of. And I emailed every friend in New York. I was like, I will pay for your flight to Orlando. Come meet me at Disney. Literally, nobody wanted to come. My parents

ended up going. My parents came. They were like, we hate this. And I had to all on all the rides oh my god i wish we had known each other i would have gone with you wow oh my god i love it that would have been so fun oh my god anyways the song of the south is the most racist shocking splash mountain it's yeah those bears that are caricatures yep it's crazy i'm like am i the only jungle cruise with the natives i'm like am i fucking crazy recently i went on jungle cruise with a bunch of people anna dresden was there and we

were not we could not believe that it had not been updated the jungle cruise is another level the natives that come out of the woods that are like trying to kill you it's really crazy okay so we have a note from our our um producer here that says Disney hired a Nazi scientist to be the chief scientific consultant to Walt Disney Productions. So there you go. Big shock there. Where my trees at? Big shock. Disney is, I'm telling you, point to one funny...

And by the way, no offense, I know that I'm really... Listen, if you like Disney, I'm sorry your childhood had problems. You know, we all have issues. No, I'm fully ready to receive this because I am a Disney person are you a major Disney person? Michelle it's true it's true I go I'll say that I am too I'm on the spectrum

we go to Disney and we want to learn I like going to Disney yeah you went too so don't be all high and mighty on us because you bagged your corporate company for your plum tickets. You were a participant in Disney. You were.

Listen, because I wanted to be accepted by the Nazi scientists, okay? Look, I know I fucked up. There's just something about Disney that just never fully, I never felt safe there. Do you know that my, wait, can I say one other thing? I know I talk a lot. Please talk as much as you want. My best friend in high school, Jessica Weiss, shout out. Love her. She worked at

Disney one summer and I went to visit her and she took me to the underground. I've been underground at Disney. So what's, is it gay? Yeah, well, what was it like? Is it Prince Eric fucking Aladdin? Donald blowing Aladdin. It's crazy.

It's black lights. Calm. Vinyl calm. That's my new podcast. Black lights, vinyl calm. Black lights, vinyl calm. No, it's like literally it's horrifying. You see like Mickey like holding his head and smoking.

It's like in The Simpsons. It just feels off. It's literally that. Oh, no's horrifying. You see Mickey holding his head and smoking. It's like in The Simpsons. It just feels off. It's literally that. Oh, no. Oh, my God. And there's miles and miles of tunnel of people that are just making too little money to do what they do. Everyone is so miserable. But I remember the door that I went into. Nobody stopped me.

She was like, you have to look like you belong because I could get fired. Because, you know, they're so anal about. So did you smile after you're big? You have to look like you belong because i could get fired because you know they're so anal about so i just smile look like you belong i smile so big well i look like i look like goofy literally i think they were just like oh goofy's off the clock like i had overalls on and like a big oh oh goofy's off the clock there's goofy There's Goofy. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's going to be amazing. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I'm Julian Edelman.

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you get your podcasts. I've seen Michelle relatively recently. I saw her in December when you came to SNL and it was a beautiful moment getting to witness you meeting Sudi Green because you were both it was just a it was a beautiful moment getting to witness you meeting Sudi Green.

Cause you had, we're both, it was just a, it was a total. That makes a lot of sense to me. It was a wonderful moment. She's the best. That was such a fun night.

I met Ariel. It was so nice. Yeah. You met Ariel. And then you also, okay. So my guests that night were, it was the,

it was the JLo show. Um, and, um, I, I, I, I had,

um, Oscar and Mo and Adam from Poppy juice and they were my guests and then you sat at our table at the after party and you fully had them in the palm of your hand it was a beautiful thing to see like just like you talking to like these three like bushwick bedstuy like brown nightlife icons queer nightlife icons and you like talking their ears off and they were wrapped and they were obsessed. Why wouldn't they be? It was,

I mean, but it was just like, oh yeah, this is the effect that Michelle has on people. That's really nice. Thank you. It was wonderful.

It was wonderful to see. That makes me feel, you know, because I don't live in Bushwick and I know that if I did, I don't know what I'd be like. I don't know what I'd be like. I would,

I don't know. But I just love funny people. You know what I mean? They were I don't know what I'd be like. I don't know. But I just love funny people. You know what I mean? They were so funny. They were so sweet. Oh, they're the best. They're the best. I want to see them again.

Like, I would love. The problem is that I feel now like I'm the Faye Dunaway to their, like, Christina. You know what I mean? Where they're like babies, you know? And I'm like, oh, I hope I'm not like an old lady. By the way, Daniel Radcliffe, a Jew. Wouldn't he be like, hey, JK, the goblins. Can we talk about the goblins?

I think that some people from the Harry Potter universe will speak out because you can't just let this continue. Oh, Katie Leung, the actress who played Cho Chang, like tweeted, I mean, she did one of those like fake out tweet threads. Like, do you guys want to know my thoughts about playing Cho Chang? Here goes thread. And then it's donation links donations um which is which is

great um but i but i feel like there's this like subtext to like all the people who like were in the movies or were involved with or have worked with jk in any capacity that are like yeah i don't know i don't know i'm not i don't like i don't want to make assumptions about miss joanne but it's just it's so. It's so crazy. And she should have just stopped touching that franchise after the books and the movies came out and not written these two terrible movies. Fantastic Beasts, let's just say, bad movies.

It's just crazy that she could have literally... She had two choices. She had one choice, which was Speak Your Mind, which she did. She took that avenue. And she also could have just shut her mouth and remained one of the most beloved authors of all time like the fact that we are in this moment right now and she said you know what i'm actually gonna double down on my transphobic beliefs now now she's done forever there's not there's no excuse can i ask an honest question why pick the trans community

which is like she's got a fixation on it they're she's obsessed but it's not just her like you know ricky gervais has come for them a lot of famous people feel very emboldened to pick on these people who are literally like talking about the human food chain and privilege and everything else, the most disenfranchised, they're the most disenfranchised people. They're people. They are not coming for your money. They're not coming for your work. They're not bothering you in any way,

except for maybe needing as a celebrity, your help and your empowerment to help them blend in with society as human beings, which is all they're asking for. Why would you pick this group to and this moment to come after right now i literally am like it's crazy it's because it's the last vestige of that sort of racist sexist homophobic humor it's the it's because i think like that was such a huge part of what comedy was all throughout the 90s and all throughout the like aughts when these people were huge. They did make like inappropriate, quote unquote, comedy out of race, gender, homophobia.

That was just the way that they made money. Honestly, it's the way that they built their comedy careers. And now that we're saying this is over, because obviously trans people are like the bottom of everyone's list, or it has historically been, that we've reached out to that community. That's the last vestige for these male comedians and these comedians that are kind of old fashioned and came up at that time. These are the last people they can still pick on while people aren't completely outraged about it. That's what I think. Yeah.

It's easy for them. Yeah. And for her to have written this series of books that are like completely moralizing and completely, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I mean,

she's like presenting her set of values and that's and people liked it um but i it's she she has conferred upon herself this false sense of like well i have the right point of view on this and my opinion is actually the right one yeah and this is her but yeah this fixation on the trans community is so interesting remember like two weeks ago when she tweeted that crazy thing and then it had that addendum that she like accidentally pasted this like, Oh, do you know about this Michelle? It was like,

she was like, so basically she's been doing this thing on her Twitter where she's written a new book or told the new story called the Ichabod and it's about a bug, but she didn't physically describe the bug. Instead, she was allowing her young fans to draw pictures of the bug what they think the ichabod looks like god and send it into her so that she can be like this ichabod is amazing wonderful job i love how it looks wise in its face like it's stupid shit but

like that's what she's been doing so in one of the submissions that she received she literally bone like could you find this because it's it's literally insane but it was like yeah it was like this ichabog is an amazing creature and then it was like this copy pasted thing about how trans people aren't like actually people it was so bizarre and then she finished the the, the post. And I love that. It's got blue feed. Thank you. Like it was really weird. Bowen.

Did she delete it or no? I think she has, or she apologized for it. I think she deleted, but let me, I think I've, I found, so it's,

um, a Wicca Bogue. You know, what she keeps saying is she keeps saying these things like, you know, being a woman shaped my life. And I think she is one of those people who believes that men, people who are born men who discover they're trans women throughout their lifetime. I think she takes offense to that.

I think that she feels attacked that a man can, quote unquote, become a woman or claim womanhood i think this is something that she is really sensitive to for whatever reason and feels the need to keep speaking about it's just like why does that have any impact it's your womanhood it's a they're separate journeys like i'm you know we i'm a woman i've been through lot of shit. It's like I've never once in my life thought to myself, wow, that trans woman has no idea what I've ever. Like, I just don't get that. Okay, let me look. This is it. I have it.

Okay, so it was a drawing of fabulous ichabod with its bat ears mismatched eyes and terrifying blood-stained teeth in court wolf claimed the facebook post in which she said she wanted to quote fuck up some turfs was just bravado so that was the tweet with the picture of an ichabod so she's so she quote she pulled this from some report about this woman, Tara Wolf. I believe a trans woman who wanted to attack, who was charged for assaulting a radical feminist slash TERF. I think that's the background on this. I mean, and then she said,

sorry about the random and totally unconnected sentence that made its way in there. I accidentally pasted in part of a very un-Ikabog-ish message I just received. Which is like such a joke. It's like she's talking about the Ikabog at the same time as she clearly had copy pasted a TERF-like talking point from an article

and put it in her damn Ichabod message. My theory is that she was probably so used to being so celebrated her entire professional life and then I think the first time she ever tweeted about trans people a few years ago

people started to come after her and call her a TERF and she probably felt very very victimized by that. And then has been obsessing over trying to justify her point of view. I think that, I mean, that's my dumb assessment. Anyway. You know, listen, I haven't watched the movie Small Time Crooks in eight years. Have you?

Not in the last eight years, but I've watched it. Oh, no, I've seen it many times. And then until we canceled Woody. And it hurt because it's one of my favorite movies, but I haven't watched it since. And I just feel like, you know what? I'm sorry to the Harry Potter community, but eventually you just have to say this.

It's not like she's going to be crying. She'll cry into her money mattress. She'll be fine. But it's like, I can't wholeheartedly support someone who I know is fine but it's like you just i can't wholeheartedly support someone who i know is a piece of shit like that i can't and the fact of the matter is i don't even think she is going to be crying because she's truly digging her heels in and then she said something like someone called her a turf and she said feminazi turf bitch witch it's all the same the way that they change the way that they uh talk down to women it's like no things change but uh women hating is eternal or whatever right she said like this is how they

hate women it's like she genuinely believes that us calling her a turf is some you know just misogynist term i i genuinely think that she just doesn't understand what it is. Yeah, but the irony is her being transphobic is its own form of hating women. Right, of course. Also, I don't like the name TERF. It just sounds kind of dumb. When I first heard it, I was like, TERF? I had to Google it. I didn't know what it was. Well, it's so close to

smurf. It's close to nerf. It's close to all this dumb shit. It's like astroturf. It's like all this dumb shit it's like astro turf is like innocuous nothing it's like fake grass i literally did not know what it meant i was like well for people who don't know who may not know it is trans exclusionary radical feminist it's people who believe that they're feminist and supporting women who do not include trans women in that and who are transphobic that's that's really what's at the heart of TERF. And I wish we didn't have to say it at all either

because it is ugly. It's ugly. You TERF. I think it's funny. How dare you TERF. Get out of here TERF. I'm putting a sign on my front door that says no TER no turfs allowed baby

that's my podcast no turfs allowed baby sauce i love someone spilled sauce is really i just can't believe that honestly after you after well it was it was and it was you that spilled the sauce we should say yeah it was me that the that the doors opened to the elevator and it was Leah Michelle that walked in and you Michelle Collins had to look up into her face and say that's Leah Michelle and I had to literally

say to her someone spilled and her response was ugh but like a hawking a loogie scoff like And her response was, ugh. But like a hawking a loogie, Scott. Ugh. She literally was like, do not. Like the energy was psycho.

And it went so quickly. Like the doors opened. It's not like I was like staring at her from across a room. Like she literally walked out. She almost has this like armor up probably because she thought she was so famous, you know, that if God forbid anyone spoke to her like but this guy was lovely and she found a husband yeah she certainly did but remember remember when she was literally the next big thing remember when she sang at the tony awards don't ran on my parade and in the front row was beyonce and jay-z and she had the nerve to in front of beyonce sort of look jay-z in his eyes and like sexily flirt with him.

Really? Watch the performance. It's Don't Ran Out My Parade at the Tony Awards, Lea Michele. She said, I've got to have my bite. And she did it to Jay-Z. And Beyonce's face is like, what is this bitch thinking right now?

She was like, no, TERFs. She was like, Beyonce in TERFs. She was like, Beyonce, in that moment, she said, get this TERF away. We should say that Lea Michele has not shown us that she's a TERF. Give it time. Give it time.

Famed TERF, Lea Michele. Wow. Famed TERF. Famed TERF. it's gonna be like famed turf leah michelle wow famed turf famed turf alternate title of app i think we have to talk about lady g now i think we need to talk about lady g well okay so

what is what have you guys read about lady g i've read i've read the ladybug thing which i think i think every but here's the thingbug thing which i think i think every every but here's the thing which is fiction it was okay allegedly it's fiction allegedly it's not true or it's a downline like allegation let's say um for people who haven't can't be doing that don't don't no no but the author said that it was fanfic that i don't i i didn't read the article really the author said this was fanfic I didn't expect it to go viral.

This is not true. Oh, come on. See, that's my thing. If we have actual people who are willing to come forward about Ms. Lady G, a.k.a. Lindsey Graham, the senator from South Carolina, then what we need to do is we need to let those people come forward. We don't need fanfic right now. We don't need anyone to dismiss what these people might be saying. Because if Lindsey Graham is in any way lying about his sexuality and passing anti-LGBTQ legislation, we need to deal with that.

And if you are going to be lying and writing fanfic and making this any more confusing than it need be, truly shut up. Because these people should speak out. Yes. And even, but to me though, and this is my honest sort of opinion on this is that even if he did have ladybugs and like moles around his anus that looked like fecal matter, ladybugs,

ladybugs, like all of that is cool. Like all of that is cool and queer and like good for him for like if he had ladybugs around his asshole then like that is almost like if it weren't for the fact that he was this horrendous legislator like i'd be like oh cool that's cool like i that that endears me well we had a ladybird johnson now we have a ladybug hole now we have a ladybug hole but i'm just like it's my first lady name yeah right i mean everybody a Ladybug hole. But I'm just like... It's my first lady name. Right. I mean, everyone calls her Ladybug hole.

First lady, Ladybug hole. Shows us around her pantry. Wow. I just think that all of this is like, this would be endearing in any other world where Lindsey Graham was not this, did not actually push homophobic policy and didn't you know

like defend Brett Kavanaugh with all of his beating I should have known when I was reading that that couldn't be real someone on all fours on the bed saying oh those are my little ladybug there was a horrible honestly now looking back it was a horrible piece of writing oh and we hate the writing

now I hate the writing no I do hate the writing though because it's a lie why are you contributing that right now those are my little ladybugs we don't need that it was gross to read and now that i know it's not true it's even grosser to think existed sure um he his face alone is enough to make me puke forever like he's gross nauseating looking he's like like i'm not a good artist and if i tried to draw a beautiful pig it would you know what i'm saying like it would be like it would be like lindsey graham like as a bad artist like as a terrible art drawer if someone gave me a pencil and said

draw a beautiful pig i'd end up doing a point angle by angle portrait of him he's um he's just a real piece of shit and i I'll be honest with you, I don't necessarily believe that his gayness alone is what they have over him. Oh, yeah, of course not. I think it's much more than that. Because that to me,

if he's not like sleeping with sex workers, you know, he would have to know that there's a threat that someone would come forward. So I don't, and he's been doing it for decades.

So I don't think that that is why I can't explain, unless they have a tape of him doing something horrible. I don't know what is up, but Bowen, what do you think? There has to be something actually illicit.

There has to be like, he must, I don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't want to conjecture too much but it's like yeah i agree with you it's got to be something darker well all these people that that have still like rid behind trump on this lane to hell like what exactly is it that keeps you doing that and then you think well because we've passed the point where reason would intervene

it must be something that they're all something dark like what does he have on marco rubio you know what i mean marco who i cannot stomach who like what dirt he's really the worst he's awful what do they have but how can they possibly have like let's say they have like a sex tape of someone right they can't have one for every single senator i mean that's what i'm saying like something is is up i don't know what it is but I want to know also Ted Cruz the other day like something's up with him too with the toilet paper the toilet paper post I was like what are you

talking about by the way Costco literally has so much toilet paper they're back he's trying to get people to believe he ordered toilet paper in March and it only just arrived and it looked like that. From China?

Is that what it was? He said, I ordered this toilet paper back in March. Yeah, but didn't he throw China in there? He said it's made in China and it looks like shit. I mean, he took a picture of it. It was bent all out of shape. That is not what chinese toilet paper looks like for the record chinese toilet paper does not have it's it's just the rolled up paper and there's no

cardboard roll oh i like that yeah yeah like in a like in a public bathroom exactly what you're saying yes yes i love that i love that i want to start doing that exactly i'm glad i introduced that would you say this is like one of your greatest episodes or i'm curious where does this fall top one top one percent top one percent i want to i want to address my many cuts and bruises from falling on my bike so um jared and i sort of took to bikes the other day to sort of you know escape what was going on in our day-to-day life just to get away for about 25 minutes on a short bike ride and i actually was putting the directions in on my mobile phone

and in with one hand and starting to drive the bike with the other and too hard and i'm telling you it was jared says he thought i died before i hit the ground oh my god it was the kind of thing where it was like i literally flipped over the handlebars on my bike. How fast were you going? Not that fast, but I just broke so, so hard that I just went and flew like literally over my legs. It was,

and it was, I see you have to wear a helmet. You got one. No, don't do it. Don't wear it. And it was the kind of thing where it was like, I never really ride bikes. So I was just like, well, how fast am I possibly going to go?

Well, how could I really get into an accident? Guys, wear a helmet when you ride bikes. You know, you're really scaring me. I'm serious. Look, I'm happy that you're afraid because I hope that you're the voice of the audience here. And I hope that everyone is afraid. You need to be wearing helmets when you you ride bikes you don't have to be going fast you don't have to be experience and experience an accident can happen to you at any

time I'm telling you I fell on my bike and luckily I landed on my wrist and my elbow here but like Owen and Michelle can see it's kind of gnarly and um I could have landed on my head and really hurt myself so please be you know i know that we're all anxious to get out there like i think that was part of it i just wanted to get out and exercise and get on a bike i was excited and i haven't been out much um in the past few months but i really well i i got a bike um those of you who are familiar with me know that i'm not um like fit i actually can i be honest with you i see like not i'm not i'm not like fit. I actually, can I be honest with you? I see, like I'm not,

I'm not making a judgment call on this because a lot of people would be like, you're fat phobic. I'm like, no, I'm speaking fact. I'm fact, anti-fact phobic.

What's, what am I trying to say? You're honest. I'm pro-fact, not fact phobic. Pro-fact, not fact phobic. You're fat philic.

You're a fat, you're fact phile. Yes, yes,philic. You're a fact file. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And, but I do see like over, what has it been, three months? Like when we, when I first started doing these Zooms, I was like, I look stunning.

You don't have to say anything. Say nothing. I'm just saying, I see, but I love you. But I see, but I see a difference. You know what I'm saying? Like I see it and it's fine. It's who I am. But I got a bike to try to maybe

like burn a calorie or two. And I've been riding it and I got a helmet too. But you know that my head, I'm like Ichabod Crane. Like, I mean, I'm Ichabod Crane. This Ichabod has a gorgeous head. I love it. When I was in Europe, this is relatable. I went to a hat store.

I was like, I'm buying a hat. And I went in and he had to literally take me, like every lady's hat was like Elmer Fudd and then he took me to the men's hats and I had to go to the last thing in the men's hats to like full-blown like Indiana Jones like don't even ask okay anyways I didn't buy one but helmets I just look horrible in them I don't like wearing them but I've been writing no one likes wearing them they're so dorky and they're so fucking ugly and especially when you're already like a big person. But I already have, I always joke that they're going to hang my skeleton at the Natural History Museum.

But like, like after I go, they're going to like wash off the flesh and just hang me. Suspend me next to the whale. Wash it off. But anyway, the point is that I. Wash off the flesh. Everyone. Next to the whale from the ceiling. She always jokes that. she always jokes that she always jokes that

I always joke oh my god I always joke that I always joke they're gonna wash off my flesh and hang my skull next to the whale I always joke that oh my god oh my god michelle collins no but anyways but then today i took my bike out because it was a beautiful day today obviously there's a lot of horrible shit going on horrible and good

it's confusing but there's like good today there's progress being made today was a good day it was a good day so i was like i'm gonna take my bike out because I need to let some steam out. And I did not wear my helmet. And it's so bumpy by Riverside Park that at one point I slammed the brakes. And I get it because if you go over, if you slam too quick, your body's still moving. It's really scary.

The centrifugal force or whatever it is. Inertia. I said centrifugal force. Like I knew what the fuck i was talking about um anyway like there were some forces going on that i flew over my bike landed on my elbow and my wrist and you know jared was great and helped me out but um it was it was tough and i want everyone to be wearing helmets and what i also want to do right now is take a short break before we get to i don't think so honey because i'll just be real and human i have to urinate okay so we now is take a short break before we get to I Don't Think So Honey because I'll just be real and human. I have to

urinate. Okay. So we're going to take a short break and we'll be right back with I Don't Think So Honey. Perfect. Bye! The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends.

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Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.

Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week, Charlamagne Tha God sits down with Vice President Kamala Harris for a conversation you don't want to miss. The things that we want and are prepared to fight for won't happen if we're not active and if we don't participate. They tackle the big questions, politics, policy, and what's next for the country. Doesn't the Biden administration have to take some blame for the border, though? Charlemagne, first thing we dropped was a bill to fix the broken immigration system, which, by the way, Trump did Charlemagne, first thing we dropped was a bill to fix the broken

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On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I talk to people about navigating these very moments. The last couple of years has been the hardest season of our marriage, for sure. hardest season of our marriage for sure. I'm surprised our marriage survived it. I think we both are. I think we both were barely holding on. Nothing compares to how hard this is.

Their stories are full of candor, awe, and hard-won wisdom. And you'll hear from scientists who teach us how we can be more resilient in the face of change. True behavior change is really identity change. Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become. Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So we're back and we're actually we were off mic we were talking about um what things will be like when we all kind of come back because i have made my first trip to a restaurant i have been to a

restaurant i'm willing to say on mic that it was a jarring experience to go into a restaurant again in in the california area things are starting to open up a little bit more like normal. And I was saying to Michelle and Bowen that there was that moment where a waiter kind of came over one too many times. And I was like, we're good, thanks. And in the back of my head, I was like, he's been over a few too many times.

But I was like, wow. But I would never actively be annoyed about that anymore because this is, I feel like when we come back, we're all going to be, or I really genuinely hope that when everything does quote unquote get back to normal, that people will be more appreciative of restaurant staff and bar staff. And you guys were saying you don't know about that. Well, Michelle kind of had like a fun underlining point but my thing is i think people now just like the just the idea of going out and like being out in public is this like i hate i hate i hate terming it this way

but it's this political thing now where it's like people are so on such different thresholds of like agitation and just like not like just everyone's just like basically an agoraphobe at this stage and i feel like i don't know if that's gonna extrapolate well once things start to resemble normalcy again i think people are going to be very uh are going to be are going to have very short fuses around how people behave in society i just think like i am dying to go to a restaurant i'm dying to like go on a date have a drink like be cute i i honestly am dying to go to a restaurant. I'm dying to like go on a date, have a drink, like be cute. I honestly am dying to be looked at without my mask because truly it's, it's like just from,

I mean, listen from here down, sort of a blessing to me, right? Cover the jaw, make it a life. But I've always said that I'd be a beautiful, I'd be a beautiful third wife.

That's always my, my longtime joke. Um, no, but I, I feel like when the vaccine comes and when we're able to be normal, yes, people at the beginning

are going to be like, thank you so much. But also, I've been nice to people, but I don't think everyone's going to be nice. I think people are getting very bitchy. They might be nice the first week, but people are going to snap right back into who they are as people within two weeks.

They'll be a great or a month, whatever it is. It's going to settle. The dust will settle and people are going to be who they are, you know? And their little, I don't know, neuroses, we'll call them, will have like baked over the course of like 14 months or something, you know? It's like everyone's just going to like calcify into like the, into some bad version of themselves is what I think. Yeah.

I guess I, I just want to believe like, cause I, I, like I said, like I went to a restaurant and again, I just want to say masks were worn. Like there were social distancing.

It was everything. Protocol was followed by everyone the way it needed to be. But I just can speak to how I felt, which is I was so happy to be out there. And I was sort of, I was sort of remarking on how nice it was to be in that setting again. And I just thought to myself, maybe one, whatever you want to call it, like, I know silver lining is not like a tasteful thing to say about this whole thing, because there's no silver lining to coronavirus. But what I hope is that people will just sort of step back and say this these are not um givens anymore it's not a given that you can just go out to a restaurant and do whatever you want like

it's not a given that you can go to a bar meet people it's not a given that you can be around more than five six seven you know whatever the maximum is ten friends so i would hope that people would be more grateful for those spaces but then again i do think like you know a real and a whatever quote-unquote negative or realistic way you can look at society is no they'll just kind of kick back into the way that they are because people are the way they are however i do like i do like to think of myself as a little bit of an optimist and I I would hope that we could at least take something positive out of all the shit that we've gone through oh I'm gonna I I'm gonna be like I want to kiss dogs on the lips yeah I want to I want to like

every dog I see oh my gosh um do you know what the worst thing I said in quarantine was that I was with my mask on and they said earlier on that you couldn't like pet dogs, strange dogs, because they get tired of your hands and then they could carry it. So this guy was walking with his dog. I was sitting by the pier in, uh, by like Lincoln center and the cutest dog walked right by me and like hopped up to my chair and was like, you know, like dying to be pet. And I went, Oh, I went, Oh my God, you're so cute. And I looked at the owner and I went, Oh, can I pet him? I looked at the owner and I went oh can I pet him I shouldn't right and he shook his head no and I went daddy won't let me pet you

was he cute was the guy cute no no no it was like lady G's brother basically I was like daddy won't let me pet you it was lady G's that's. It was Lady G's brother. That's the title of that. Lady G's brother.

It was Lady G's brother. Oh my God, he really is horrible. And you know, the thing about Lady G is like, I was like, if you went into an audition and acted like Lady G, they'd be like, too broad. Yes. He's so gay. Nathan Lane in the birdcage.

Right. Oh, Nathan Lane would be perfect. Well, I think this is unacceptable. That's good. He's Nathan and he's Gene Hackman rolled into one person. Wow. I love that. That's what I meant to say.

Yeah. That's perfect. And honestly, you know, Meghan McCain was his the her father was good friends with lindsey and i bet they're probably blonde oh yeah like john mccain and lindsey graham were like best friends and so the dye job probably maybe they go to the same hairstylist oh i like this theory where the the hell is Miss McCain these days? Because she's allegedly not.

She's also pregnant, and she got in trouble because she said, it's a war zone outside my apartment. But she's not even in town. And then Kristen Bartlett tweeted, I'm living in your apartment, and it's fine. And then we found out she wasn't even there. She wasn't even there, yeah. Truly wild. I don't speak ill of anyone on The View, again, until my book comes out.

So this is all... We can't wait for this tone. So, Rowan, I have to sort of cough a little bit. So you want to introduce our segment? Yes, okay. So while Matt coughs and expels his droplets, we're going to move on to our segment, I Don't Think So Honey, I Don't Think So Honey is where we take one minute each to rail

on something that's happening in culture we we delayed the recording a few minutes because, and this is actually good because Michelle wanted to prepare hers which then motivated Matt and I to prepare ours because we normally never do so I think this is holding us

accountable Michelle. I didn't prepare anything. Your producer, who I love, I'm not throwing her under the bus here because I adore her. Anna, hi. We love Anna. Oh, I mean, the name of the show, like literally, of course, I've done this show before. And she was like, don't forget you have to prepare

that thing. And I was like, I didn't do that. You've been a judge on I Don't Think So Many Live. You are a judge. I know. You are so esteemed to us. She is very esteemed. I had the best time judging that show. Remember that? That was a fun thing. That was a fun thing to me. And then when he talked to me after. It was a joke. It was a joke.

It was a great joke. Great joke. Well, funny, funny girl. Funny, funny, funny girl. My favorite feud in comedy. funny funny girl my favorite feud in comedy I don't even know her name I'm not trying to be a bitch but Anna I don't know

it's great so yes I didn't prepare one either but I picked one yes same I picked one I did not write my beats out all right Bowen Yang this is your I don't think so honey his time is going to start now I don't think so honey bunkers bunkers are if you think about it white because it's a real estate it's it's an extra piece of real estate you have right and with every housing inequity that our

country has been plagued with that has been targeted at black people i mean the the diametric opposite of the house of of like the housing crisis among our black people is white people having bunkers. Anyone who has a bunker is white or is pushing white supremacist thought into the world, into our spaces. And they are creating spaces for their own protection. And if we're going to be talking about property ooh baby, bunkers bunkers are the worst thing and what do you have in bunkers? Rifles

and canned food, that's trashy and that is I think a Caucasian cultural thing. Canned food and shotguns are Caucasian it's all white culture i can't fathom someone having a bunker i am so excited that you chose bunkers because on my show

this week on serious i did a whole segment about the word bunker because it made me laugh so much i said the only two muckers i know are edith bunker and trump's bunker like i don't know any other bunker and also the word is like lol theO-L. The word bunker, pause for laughs. Like, it's funny. It's a funny saying word. It's funny. I'm going down into my bunker. Guess where the word comes from.

What does it come from? So it comes from the word old Swedish bunkie, which means boards used to protect the cargo of a ship. And then they called, they ended up calling bunkers benches. And actually the word only became an english used word after world war ii because the germans were they had um below grounds they called it guess what they called it the fucking fuhrer bunker oh of course trump has a fucking

fuhrer bunker oh so there's so much white supremacy built in it's funny that you brought this word up i was really excited to educate people and wait i love this michelle what is the deal with caitlin whatever who speaks for him now oh please who the fuck even knows he goes to like university of arizona graduations and plucks the first girl that walks to her camry and hires them do me a favor um It really feels like that. Isn't that funny with that bunker shit? That is hilarious. And so you heard the word bunker popularized over the past week and a half,

and you thought, let me deep dive into the word bunker? The etymology. You know, on my show, I don't plan anything, and it's two hours a day. And so I just, when something like makes my, you know, I have a brain spark, I thought, what the fuck is the word bunker? It just sounded funny. And it sounds a little bit like higgie, which is another Swedish word. I knew there was going to be something with that word and it delivered. I never, I don't do

etymology often on my show, I'll be very upfront. But this one really delivered for me. I love that. Maybe you should make etymology more part of your thing because this is really educational stuff. I would do it. What are the origins of Higgy, of Huyga, or however you pronounce it?

Oh, Higgy? Let's look it up. Oh, okay, okay. It's definitely, I don't know. Well, it's Swedish, obviously. I think it's Huyga. Whatever. I've been told by so many different people.

H-Y-G-G-E? Yeah. With an umlaut over the Y? I don't even, someone's going to come for me. No, it's Danish, Norwegian. It's actually not Swedish. Oh, here it is. No, it's Danish, Norwegian. It's actually not Swedish. Oh, brother, I've been canceled.

There we, here we go. Here we go. I've been canceled. I don't, leave it. Etymology is the Danish word. Oh, this is so cute. Picture me as like a little cartoon character reading this. Meaning to give courage, comfort, and joy.

Higgie stands from Higgia, which means it's to think in Old Norse. And so the word comes from Old Norse. This is now getting boring. Which comes from the word hug, which means soul, mind, and consciousness. It is interesting. I take it back.

Okay. That's the word hug is related to Higgy. That's cute. Ultimately interesting. Because it's a feeling. It's a sensation. Yeah. Well, we love that.

Okay. And I think it's time for Michelle's. Mine's going to be bad. I just did a real stinker. Okay. Michelle's holding her mic. It's actually going to be good because she's changing her posture. So this is Michelle Collins.

I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Las Vegas. No, listen, Las Vegas. I know you're the whore of cities. We all know. I've been to vegas many many times uh when you're sitting and every you can feel the breath of disease on you there

pre-coronavirus i mean i uh not this is a brag story i'll tell it in 10 seconds i one time my friend lost me was like where's michelle where's michelle turned around i was making out with a man i did not know his name he He walked up to me and started making out. It's a disease-ridden city. And your mayor, Carolyn Goodman, who's a fucking asshole, is an embarrassment. And now you've opened up? You've opened up when... The only reason you should be opening up is to fucking protest for Black Lives

Matter. It's the only excuse I will have for wave two. I'll take a second wave if it's around the protest. But if it's around some fucking asshole putting his wife's money down without her knowing to lose their home i i don't even know where to begin as celine dion you should be ashamed no i'm kidding i love her i love it i'm just saying vegas needs to sit down it's gonna kill this country and that's the end of my thing it wasn't that's one minute no it was

great i i'm also like honestly i'm upset upset with Vegas because they promised so many good shows coming up and now they're all canceled. What was coming up? Kelly Clarkson Live. Oh, KCL. Oh, that's right. KCL. I forgot.

Kelly Clarkson was having a damn Vegas show experience in the same theater that Christina Aguilera had her show. The experience, which I went to go see. Which hotel is that in? It was Planet Hollywood, I believe. No, wait. Oh, woof. had her show the experience which i went to go see which hotel is that in it was planet hollywood i believe no wait oh i'm forgetting why have you been to many vegas shows i've been to all of them sweetheart and that's why i don't think so honey i've seen britney you've seen britney i've seen selene twice in vegas um cerco salee's oh, anyone? Twice? Oh, the Zappos Theater. That's where Christina and Kelly were.

That's really funny. The Zappos Theater. I bet you can catch me at the Gusher's Amphitheater. That's really funny. I'm going to be doing some stand-up there. Once this thing is over, we're doing live tapings of somebody who spilled sauce. The Gusher's. Live Gusher's Theater.

Did you guys see gushers I mean all the brands have been like gushers made a statement but then my favorite part of the statement was we will be working with fruit by the foot to like try to dismantle racism and all that stuff I have so many things to be upset about right now but I did

zero in on one thing and even though it is sort of a broad topic I would like to speak about it. And this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Home Depot, as a gay child being brought into you, you were terror.

It was a zoo filled with beasts, where the beasts were the wood and the saws and the... And the sinks. Hammers! And I hate you, because whenever I was a gay child being brought into you, all I saw around was my fear. Meanwhile, in my own shed in my backyard,

my father would say, go there and get me a hammer. I would go there. I would go into the shed. I would look at all these different tools. I didn't know what a hammer was. That's how gay I am. You, Home Depot, a shop full of hammers and the ilk.

You terrorized me. And now in my early 30s, yes, you tell me that you're making a donation to Trump. Politically, you terrorize me. Physically, you terrorize me. Emotionally, you terrorize me. And I tell my

father, you shop at Lowe's from now on. And he says to me, yes. He agrees with me. So you have lost even the masculine even the men you have lost I don't think so honey Home Depot and that's one minute even the masculine even the men and hammers and the

ilk a beautiful poetic language you have lost even the masculine is like why I diet that's right there that's like why I'm hiring a trainer so that you can be like you've lost even the masculine I'll be like thank you oh my god that's right there that's like why i'm hiring a trainer so that you can be like you've lost even the masculine i'm like thank you oh my god that's hilarious you and home depot like i can't imagine a store that has caused me more pain throughout my life than going there with my

father and having to be like oh it's time to go buy wood. Imagine. Like, I don't know what the fuck's going on. There are like gayer parts of Home Depot. Yeah, like the paint. No, no, no. Like they have like a Swiffer aisle and they have, they sell like containers and logs. And the soil aisles are fun. It's like they said on the commercial. They have moments there. Gotta go to Lowe's.

Gotta go to Lowe's. You know what? I'm very upset to hear that they donated to Trump Because I'll be real with you I don't love a Lowe's But I will learn to love Lowe's Home Depot donated to Trump Burger King donated to Trump Pizza Hut donated to Trump It's like the franchise owners

Because I heard Taco Bell did And I had to regurgitate the crunch wrap I had for breakfast I was like what The crunch wrap I had for breakfast. I was like, what? The crunch wrap I had for breakfast. Podcast live taping. Wow. So much culture ruined here on the portion of the episode. Can I just say something?

You boys, after a very harrowing few months, have just totally pulled my soul out from the dirt. And I love you both so much. We hope that everyone listening has been taking care of themselves. And we're happy to hear that. And we were so happy to have you, Michelle. I love you guys. We laughed throughout this episode.

We do just want to remind everyone, you know, to really be thinking about where you're putting your money. Like we make a joke, but especially now when there's so much going on, we listed a bunch of resources and organizations that you could donate to in the last episode and maybe revisit that and like just think about where you could be putting your money that's a useful place. And you don't necessarily have to be ordering Taco Bell anymore or Taco Hut or Kent Taco Hut or whatever it is that you go out and get. Just be smart about where you're putting your dollars.

Because that sort of thing matters. That's power, honey. That's power. Well, Michelle, we're so happy you came on. We've had you in the books for ages because we were just making sure that you were going to come at the exact right time. You came right on time.

Well, we needed to laugh. That's really perfect, honestly. And thank you. And anytime, I mean, once we're back, please come back. Come on my podcast, will you? We would love it. A midnight snack. Okay,? We would love it.

We love it. Midnight Snack. And also, to just revisit whether that's a good title or not, yes. Do you like it, honestly? We really do. It's very good. Excellent. Excellent title. Okay, I hope it's okay that I said the title on your show. We'll see. Who are you going to get? Well, like, to make sure everything's been, like,

booked already, you know what I mean? By the way, when you see the podcast in three weeks, it's called Somebody Spilled Sauce. You'll know that I was. I love spilling the sauce. Sounds funny. I don't know. I mean, sipping the tea, spilling the tea that might have to go. Spilling the sauce. All right.

Boys, I love you. I have to go fix my eye makeup before my Instagram live television show, which I get paid so much money for. Wow. I just make money, money, money. And that's why we're going to wrap up right now with a song. The way we always do Bowen,

take it away. Don't tell me. Not to tell. Just out of. The sons of a ball of butter. Don't tell her. That actually wasn't us singing it That was Lea Michele singing it

She's a bad singer too She's bad Canceled Okay bye Bye Bye I'm Julian Edelman I'm Rob Gronkowski

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