Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - Spectacular: 200 (The 200th Episode Spectacular Part Two)
Episode Date: July 2, 2020Readers who listened to our episode "The Top 200 Moments In Culture History" will recall that we did not get through all 200 moments. This is our attempt to complete that task. More culture. Less Vodk...a Red Bull. Will we make it to #1? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, I see.
Wow. Oh, look over there.
Wow, is that culture? Yes.
Oh, yeah. Las Culturistas.
Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And I've already had it with Bow Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling.
And I've already had it with Bowen.
I've had it.
Mi culpa.
I've had it with him today.
Mi culpa.
Why are you forgetting wires?
I normally, I'm on top of my wires and my cords.
I don't know.
You know what?
We don't have to get into it.
There's a lot of setup,
and we're doing this in a very unusual way already,
but I, you know.
T-L-D-R.
Bowen forgot his charger to his computer,
and now his computer is dead as Marilyn Monroe,
and we can barely even do the podcast tonight.
I know. We had to figure out how to use Zoom.
That's okay.
The Zoom interface, we should say.
The Zoom interface we're using.
And listen, that's us both growing and changing.
Yes.
And learning new ways to record.
Learning new ways.
And we have to apologize to you, the listener, the reader.
We were a little buzzed.
That's fine.
And that's fine.
Thank you for listening to the chaos
that was the first part of our two-part,
200th episode spectacular,
where we count down the top 200 culture moments
in culture history.
We, Matt made us a cocktail,
which in this loose definition is a Red Bull and vodka.
I did.
I literally kept sort of referring to it as a cocktail.
It was a Red Bull vodka, but here's the deal.
Yeah, I leaned on it
for us. And we only finished
about half of those drinks and we were
flippy floppy. Yeah.
Loosa goosa. Loosa goosa. I felt
really, you can listen back to it. You have the audio.
We're slurring through the episode.
The pacing.
We just have to quickly say, Matt and I really thought
we could count down all 200 things in
under two hours. Can you believe that that is something
that we thought was logistically feasible?
Us saying 200 things,
all giving them like some sort of cultural due,
like speaking about them a little bit
and getting to the end.
No way.
No way.
This just shows that we have a lot to learn
about podcasting.
We have so much to learn.
And we thank you for being there with us
on the way to grow.
On the way to grow. On the way to grow on the way to grow
and if this episode were to have a title
it would be called
On the Way to Grow
should we call this episode
this two part episode
200th Spectacular
just those two words
200th Spectacular part 1 and part 2
or should we say
and I always feel
it's good to say in the title
what the episode is so maybe it's top 200 moments of culture spectacular yes i like that or 200
the 200 colon the 200 greatest moments in culture parentheses our 200th episode i love that and i
really am in no position to push back on whatever you propose. You owe me.
I do.
I really do.
I love that.
So it's 200 colon, the top 200 moments in culture history,
parentheses, our 200th episode.
Part one and part two.
Oh yeah, we need the word spectacular in there.
Our 200th episode spectacular part one.
Should it be this?
End parentheses.
Listen, hear me out
in caps spectacular
colon
200 colon
the top 200 moments
in pop culture history
parentheses are 200th
episode part one
so the very like it's
very like themed
to the number 200 the double colon is the only
thing that's tripping me up is that not done i think it's spectacular colon and then what'd you
say 200 m dash uh the top 200 moments in culture history parentheses are 200th episode spectacular
part one close parentheses okay. Okay, yeah.
All right, great.
That's really good.
That's epic.
That's like an amazing Baz Luhrmann movie.
Yes, it gives me like Disney vibes where now the titles are just one word
and it's an adjective, like Tangled, Frozen, you know?
Well, yes.
I feel that when I say it's like a Baz Luhrmann movie,
I actually immediately understand
that he's sort of called many of his movies by like one word
or two words. Moulin Rouge, Australia.
What I mean is it has the grandeur
of a Baz Luhrmann movie. It tonally,
it stylistically says Baz Luhrmann
to me and that's all I really want.
Like in Romeo and Juliet, the and is plus
and that's how you know it's Baz Luhrmann. Huge.
And that's his little signature
and Moulin Rouge has an exclamation point.
Yes. And Australia is in like big white letters it's an amazing on the poster it's an
amazing font and then um what else great gatsby has carrie mulligan carrie mulligan that's why
that movie is special oh i've never i never seen i never saw it you know what's unfortunate for
carrie mulligan what she didn't make the list she did not she did not make the list and you know
what's interesting about carrie mulligan i sometimes think and feel yeah that you used to
have as your twitter bio i am as pretty as carrie mulligan please confirm you want to know something
it's still my tinder bio and i'm still on tinder isn't that like among the people? You're still on the very straight Tinder?
I would say it's pretty gay.
Is it?
Well, I guess I just mean like
to me Tinder is like
It's heteronormative.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like through the male gaze.
It's like very much
like a breeding ground
for like that straight guy
who has a picture
at Machu Picchu.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Oh, the gays be at
Machu Picchu down boots.
It's actually
real culture number 20. The gays be at Machu Picchu down boots. It's actually Rural Culture number 20.
The gays be at Machu Picchu down boots.
You know, it's funny.
You get all types there.
Yeah, I would imagine.
All types of queers.
At Machu Picchu.
International, really.
It's really an international site.
And speaking of...
International.
International.
We have for you a list, not just of the top 100 best things in
pop culture but it's 200 because this is famously as you may have inferred our 200th episode or a
second part of what is a 200th episode spectacular celebration and today what do we have? Today we have the top 100 moments in culture
history. So we finished our first half of this. Number 101 was of course Furbies. Yeah, Furbies.
We touched on how Furbies were a real toy that sort of stormed the moment and definitely took
center stage. And those girls were absolutely in stores, but then as soon as they were in they were gone because they were selling
like hotcakes as they would say.
Yes. And
we teased this at the end
of the last episode. The first half
of this we said number one
is going to blow your socks off and
you will have no choice but to agree. No. Number one
is culture and you're going to have to
agree on that one. You're going to have to concur
on that one. You're going to have to nod to agree on that one you're gonna have to concur on that one you're gonna have to
nod in approval
on that one yes you're gonna have to
co-sign that one yeah and so
what do you say we get keep going
with our top 100
this is unbelievable I can't believe this
top 100 moments of
culture yes
yes okay Matt let's kick it off with
number 100 all with number 100.
All right,
number 100 is Tia and Tamara Mowry.
We all remember these twins.
Sister, sister.
The sister sisters themselves.
I got my own mind
to do my own stuff
in my own time.
Oh, come on.
And also,
not only were Tia and Tamara amazing,
but this also brought to us
the incredible
Jackay Harry.
Jackay Harry.
Who, you know,
some people they knew
prior to this,
this is really the culture
that influenced her,
us to Jacquet.
Oh, yes.
I mean,
Jacquet,
you got to see her full glory
and she built up
the goodwill
and her time
at Sister Sister,
I feel like,
for our generation,
for us,
you know,
stupid millennials.
But now we get to follow her
on Twitter
and see all of her tweets
and they're so funny.
But you think, you contextualize that against
Ja'Keh Harry on Sister Sister.
I feel that, and you know, actually what I'm
realizing is that Tia and Tamera are number
100 in culture, but really Ja'Keh Harry
actually deserves her spot here. So we're
actually going to call this Rule Number
100, Sister Sister. Moment
100. Moment, sorry
not rule, this is famously something else. Moment Number 100 in culture, Sister Sister. It's not Moment, sorry, not rule. This is famously something else.
Moment number 100 in culture, Sister Sister.
It's not just Tia and Tamera,
although we love Tamera on the real.
We love Tamera on the real.
All right, so this is an example of us taking too long
on one item of culture and we have to keep going.
So number 99, Bowen, is Breathe by Taylor Swift.
An amazing song.
The song Breathe.
Now, can you elaborate on what makes the song so amazing?
Well, the song is amazing because it's really,
it's just guitar.
There might be some percussion on it,
but it's her.
It's a duet with Colby Calais.
A beautiful song about breaking up,
growing from the breakup,
growing from separation.
It's a gorgeous song.
I really love it.
From Fearless.
From Fearless.
Arguably her best album.
Well, that's an argument that we could have, but.
You know, it's her one of two albums that has won best album,
best album at the Grammys.
But to sort of assign value on awards is very kind of capitalist of you.
Anyway, moving on to number 98.
It is, of course, Breathe 2AM by Anna Nalek.
Now, if I might, I just want to take the floor here.
This song was good before the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy,
and then it became culture because of the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy.
Thank you very much.
When Mr. Kyle Chandler herself exploded ass all over that hospital,
which at the time was called Seattle Grey's.
It's now got other names
but honey when Miss Meredith
Gray had to fly all the way back
because of the explosion of Miss Chandler
holy hell and you know the
soundtrack of that moment was
Miss Anna Nalick singing
breathe and breathe
just breathe
amazing
song okay Matt what's number 97?
Well, number 97 is, of course,
Breathe by Faith Hill.
I mean, incredible song.
The number one breathe.
It edged out Anna Nellick and Taylor Swift
by a hair, I would say.
Oh, I mean, this song, Breathe,
is, it's really iconic
because it's got that sort of thing a song does
where it starts with the same lyric as it ends with.
Yes.
If you get me that way.
The chorus is explosive.
It's my favorite kind of country song
where she just lets it go in the chorus.
Hard song to sing.
Secretly hard song to sing
because of the supposed to be.
That part,
it's like a transition
into your head voice
from like a belt.
Also,
not for nothing,
but Faith Hill,
epic in that video
when she's in the dress
kind of dancing around the like,
what's it like?
Is it a field?
It's not a field.
It's like a stone.
It's like a,
what the hell?
It's like rocks that she's doing.
It's like a stone garden.
A stone field.
Is that what they call it?
I don't know, but Miss Faith Hill,
she was in the stone field.
She knew because it was on her call sheet.
Yes.
All right, and I don't know,
was it the top breathe?
Or is number 96,
Breathe by Michelle Branch,
aka the one and only rom-com movie trailer song.
It's unfortunately the best to breathe.
We spoke too soon.
If I just breathe,
then I feel the space between.
I don't know.
Everything is all right.
Wow.
Hotel Paper, a huge record.
She had many huge records,
such as The Spirit Room,
such as, you know,
Hotel Paper.
Hotel Paper.
Was it Room for Squares her
or was that John Mayer?
That was John Mayer.
The male Michelle Branch.
I get people with guitars mixed up.
But yes, she was iconic.
Can we just really quickly talk about Michelle Branch?
Yes.
Wrote The Spirit Room when she was 17.
Like, come on, Billie Eilish, Lord vibes.
Come on, Lord vibes.
Come on, Lord mind.
Come on, Lord mind.
Thank you.
Hive mind, more like lord mind which
is what you need to write an amazing album at 17 michelle branch yeah breathe what an amazing song
another song where you just belt and then you gotta pull back oh she's incredible and also we
don't hear enough covers of this no kelly clark said i'm looking at you kelly oki okay kelly oki
all right and so we're moving on to number 95 Talk about an amazing young woman who had an impact on the culture.
It's Taylor Momsen in Grinch.
Oh, she was the most amazing Cindy Lou Who.
And to think of what you are doing when you are assigned the role of Cindy Lou Who,
an iconic woman in culture, and to bring her to the screen and do her just justice.
I mean, I'm giving a standing ovation.
I'm giving a standing ovation.
Speaking of Faith Hill, she ended up singing a Faith Hill song,
Where Are You Christmas?
Yes, she did.
Written by Miss Mariah Carey.
Miss Mariah Carey herself.
Which Matt Rodgers wastes no time
in teaching the children about that fact.
I always teach the kids that.
Whenever they come to one of my performances,
I make sure to tell them,
you know, Mariah Carey actually,
she wrote Where Are You Christmas?
And Faith Hill sang it.
And then Taylor Momsen, I'm sorry, but acted it.
Because she acted the hell out of this role.
Yes.
She acted the hell out of this role.
When Cindy Lou Who is supposed to be sad, you are sad.
And then she grew up to play a mean teenager in Gossip Girl.
Ooh.
Wow.
She really, she was a versatile one.
Very versatile.
And then, of course, she was in the band Pretty Reckless.
Pretty Reckless.
Never forget.
A Perez Hilton favorite.
Oh, my God.
2007, 2008.
What a time.
Oh, it was Taylor Momsen's peak, and we sent her a lot of love.
Now, speaking of this film, number 94 is Where Are You Christmas from the film Grinch, which we have discussed.
Which we have discussed.
Well, we should actually make the distinction.
Grinch is the title of the animated version of, which we have discussed. Which we have discussed. Well, we should actually make the distinction. Grinch is the title
of the animated version of...
It's my title.
It's Matt's title,
but the full title
of the Jim Carrey classic,
Jim Carrey,
Christine Baranski classic,
Taylor Momsen classic
is How the Grinch Stole Christmas.
Right.
I just shortened it
for my own purposes
to Grinch.
Thank you.
Talk about the song.
This song is amazing.
I mean, you know,
it's about a young girl
sort of confronting the fact that as she gets older, the meaning of Christmas changes.
And sort of is a comparison to life and how as you get older, you know, things, they don't lose their meaning, but they change their meaning.
And it's about the unknown and what's going to happen as you grow older.
If Christmas changes, will I change too?
What else will change?
A beautiful song, a beautiful sentiment, and only the number one
songwriter, Mariah Carey, could have written it.
Absolutely. And you know what's a beautiful, gorgeous
lyric? What? My life is changing.
I'm rearranging. I'm rearranging.
Amazing. You see it.
Yeah. You see it. Thank you.
Now, let's go to 93. Number 93
is Jim Carrey as
Grinch in the film Grinch.
This performance was
culture, Christmas culture. Christmas culture.
He was giving you everything. He was giving you
slapstick. He was giving you
some voice comedy. Oh, absolutely.
He was giving you hours in the makeup chair,
painful hours in the makeup chair. Yes.
And I'm sorry, but if Meryl Streep is gonna
get nominated for as many Oscars as she has,
where is Jim Carrey's nomination
for Grinch? And I'm being sort of, you know, silly about this, but also in a real way, where is even
one Oscar nomination for Jim Carrey and his many solid performances?
Sexism in Hollywood.
I think it's sexism towards Green Bean-esque comedic actors, and it has to stop right now.
No, say it's sexism towards white male actors.
It's sexism towards white male actors
to have Jim Carrey go nominationless.
He deserved a nomination for Eternal Sunshine,
I want to say.
He deserved nominations for the following films.
Eternal Sunshine.
The Seminal Grinch.
The Mask.
No.
Liar Liar.
Okay.
Truman Show. Yes! He should have at least four thank you queen okay for truman show for the queers to love truman show that's how you know it's a real work
real piece of work this was a real work now we have the next one here and this is one of my
favorite rules of all number 92 the, the birth of Bo and Yang.
Important moment.
I wrote in parentheses.
I wanted to take this moment off the list.
No, and I said you have to leave it on
because the birth of Bo and Yang was a moment in culture.
We would not have Bo.
Can everyone that's listening right now understand?
The fact that you are given Bo and Yang is a gift,
and you have to
understand that and stop being so stupid because bowen yang is a gift in this world and he has come
to this amazing place and he's going very far and the birth of bowen yang is a moment in culture and
you sitting at home understand that your life would be completely different without him you
wouldn't be listening to this right now no you, you would be listening to this. We all know that Matt Rogers
is the joy,
is the source,
is the sun in all things,
especially when it comes
to this podcast.
No, this brings us
to culture number,
rule of culture number 91.
That don't impress me much.
What was this?
This was a Shania Twain,
I'm so sorry.
No Shania.
A Shania Twain song.
I got her visually mixed up
with Faith
and I'm so sorry to do that. This also kind ofain's song. I got her visually mixed up with Faith.
And I'm so sorry to do that.
This also kind of took,
this video also took place kind of like in the desert.
Yes.
She was hitchhiking, remember?
She was hitchhiking.
Iconic leopard.
In the leopard.
But I mean, Shania,
we're not talking about Shania now because Shania now is a little wild.
But we're talking about the song
that don't impress on me much
or the moment that don't impress on me much.
You'll notice that I wrote here
that don't impress on me much. I didn't say a song. That Don't Impress On Me Much, or the moment, That Don't Impress On Me Much. You'll notice that I wrote here, That Don't Impress On Me Much.
I didn't say a song.
I didn't necessarily say a video.
I said, That Don't Impress On Me Much.
And that's because That Don't Impress On Me Much,
I believe, is a movement beyond just the song.
I think That Don't Impress On Me Much became something like I Don't Think So Honey.
Yes.
You know, it's actually rule of culture number 13.
That Don't Impress On Me Much is the original I Don't think so honey. Yes. You know, it's actually rule of culture number 13. That don't impress on me much
is the original
I don't think so honey.
And it's such an amazing time to announce
Bowen and I will be doing a show called
That Don't Impress On Me Much.
And it will not happen.
We're not doing it.
We're not doing it.
It's actually not a thing.
I gotta say,
the reason I love
That Don't Impress On Me much is it's an answer.
So many times in life, people are putting forth questions.
Yes.
And it puts the onus on you to come up with the answer.
But the question is, so you're Brad Pitt.
And the answer that Shania gave.
That don't impress on me much.
That don't impress on me much.
And it actually is more about, it says more about you.
Yes.
Than it does about the other person
because this other person could be doing something impressive.
It just don't impress you much.
It don't impress you much.
And so honestly, whenever I see anyone stepping up to me and trying to give me grief,
I just say, I look at them in the eyes.
I maybe pat them on the shoulder and I say, that don't impress me much.
Thank you. And you should try it at home. You should try it at home. that don't impress on me much. Thank you.
And you should try it at home.
You should try it.
Try it next time your parents are getting at you.
Try it next time your boyfriend hasn't cleaned the dishes.
Or maybe if he does clean the dishes,
just say, that don't impress on me much.
It's the original, I don't think so, honey.
It really is.
Let's move on to number 90, which is Obama election.
Now, Matt, you wrote this down.
Who could forget?
But there were two, right? Well, there was two Obama election. Now, Matt, you wrote this down. Who could forget? But there were two, right?
Well, there was two Obama elections.
And I think that this moment,
the moment of culture number 90 Obama election
is when you really understand his election
as less a moment
and as a singular cultural shift and event.
I see.
You know what I mean?
I just feel that Barack Obama
is an amazing man in culture
and he had to be on the list.
He had to be on the list.
So when you say Obama election,
you mean the election and re-election of Obama.
Yes, the election into the cultural consciousness of Obama.
Yes.
What I'm really saying is the 2008 election.
I'm talking about the moment when he got first elected.
You can't beat that.
No.
Do you remember where you were?
I was in the East Village.
I remember people in New York City running out into the streets, cheering.
And I was like, this is beautiful.
And I had just moved there, like you.
Oh, I was in Union Square.
And I remember being so elated that he was elected.
And I remember running down the halls.
And it was NYU.
So everyone was heading to.
To Union Square.
Union Square.
And there were these like every other like dorm room.
There was like one conservative kid like sitting in his bedroom like crying.
Like because his parents had obviously scared the daylights out of him that like if Obama got elected they were going to lose all their money or whatever.
Well it's wonderful that it was so funny the pendulum swung the other way
in such a crazy destructive manner no eight years later well here's the thing if you remember how
good you felt when that happened put that energy towards november yes put that energy towards
joe biden to the White House.
Joe!
We love Joe Biden.
I said to myself, I was like,
you know what words I don't want to hear anymore?
We need to restore the soul of America.
I'm like, this is the most garbage,
like nothing of a like placation I've ever heard.
This is a battle for the soul of America. Which is another way of saying to me that like,
this is not our country, right?
That, like, anytime something terrible happens
when it comes to Trump and or racism or both,
it's like, this isn't our country.
It's like, no, this is our country.
And you saying that we're restoring the soul of America
is like, and not to use this word,
it is like that's a similar type of gaslighting
where you're like, this is not the America I know.
We're better than this.
It's like, maybe we're not.
First of all, let's break it down into three parts, right?
Restore.
The word restore means to return to
or sort of rebuild in a similar fashion
to what we've experienced before.
So that to me is saying we'd like to return to something.
And I think we've been establishing in the past couple of years that America
is not something to be returned to.
It's something to progress into.
But okay.
So then when you start to restore the soul,
the soul to me is a dog whistle because it's like a little bit slightly
religious imagery.
And also it says something about like the soul,
like the ancestor,
like within,
like,
again,
it's this like kind of bullshit that reverts back to a prior.
Yeah.
And again,
this is not what America needs to do.
America needs to progress and move forward.
And then you say of America,
which gives people this like false sense of duty.
So really in every single part of that slogan is bullshit.
Yeah.
And, um, anyway, so we love Joe. Thank you, Joe Biden. in every single part of that slogan is bullshit yes and um
anyway
anyway we love Joe
thank you Joe Biden
but
um
and uh
anyway
so anyway yes
number 90 is the Obama election
um
I just want to say
point out really quick
we just
we blasted through the uh
Grinch series
the Grinch trio
Christine Baranski
did not make the list
she did not make the list
no
that's okay
she
she never looked she it hurts
never looked hotter
never looked hotter
hottest actress
in Hollywood at the time
I believe
she was on Maxim
I believe she was on
Maxim GQ
Vogue
all of it
she had hottest
woman titles
but she did not
make the list
who did make the list
is number 89
this is
when Nick Jonas
got quote
adult hot remember this I remember this Jonas got, quote, adult hot.
Remember this?
I remember this.
Talk about this.
When was adult hot for you?
I think it was around the time when he was releasing the song Jealous.
It was a realization for me that not only was Nick Jonas a man now,
but he was a hot man,
and I unfortunately was powerless to whatever was going on.
And it's that kind of
thing where it's like what he really was a kid one day and then was not the next yeah and it was it
was really like a a quantum leap there was no transition yeah because it's jarring right it's
sort of like one minute he's like a cute kid in a band and then it then you turn around and he's like, not only like sort of a sex object,
but like explicitly sexual
and performing sort of his own sexuality
for gay men in a way.
Yeah.
Which is like, it was such an assault,
but one that I welcomed.
I welcomed it too.
There was a very interesting discourse around
when there was a photo of him on some yacht
wearing short swim trunks and like looking sort of thick in the thighs and everyone's saying
daddy daddy daddy and everyone just being like wait a minute this is not like thick like or
people calling him thick and people calling him daddy so it's like we're not there quite yet and
we're and and i think that's when the term thick got a little bit, you know, commandeered, let's say.
So you think he wasn't actually thick and people were calling him thick?
Yeah, I gotta say.
That's my thought.
I think in that picture, what happened was he was wearing a too small bathing suit.
Yes.
And he did look like a little love handle-y.
It's an optical illusion, yes.
In a way that I will say understanding that the bathing suit
was too small turned me on
in a way I can't even describe.
We're not saying that it wouldn't turn anybody on.
It was appropriating the word thick.
I didn't say that. I didn't say the word appropriate.
It's just...
Then what are you trying to say? The word started to get muddied.
I see, I see.
So you're saying save thick for thick.
Save thick for thick.
I understand. Regardless,. So you're saying save thick for thick. Save thick for thick. Okay. I understand. Regardless,
Nick Jonas made the list.
Made the list. He made the list here.
Let's go to number 88. Oh, this was a moment
in culture. This is the hairstyle
of the Rachel.
Huge moment. I mean,
women everywhere were so taken
by Jennifer Aniston as Rachel and her hairstyle
that they said, I want to get the Rachel.
I have a question for you.
Gone.
Did the Rachel have to exist in order for the Karen haircut to exist?
You know,
the Karen haircut is very Kate Goss.
Sort of like,
yeah,
that Kate Goss and sort of like,
who calls it like,
like a waterfall in the front and scissors in the back.
Yes,
yes,
yes.
Um,
that's,
I think Sudi said that one time she said that,
that,
that hairstyle is like a waterfall in the front,
like a front bang.
That's like a cascade and knives in the back, like a front bang that's like a cascade, and
knives in the back, like dangerous
porcupine back. I
don't think that one had to
walk so the other could run,
but I do think that they occupy
a similar space where they're so
iconic that they earn a
name. And so I think they're iconic
sisters, but the
Rachel was a moment. It was not a precursor.
And here's the thing.
Does the Karen still sort of exist?
I feel like the symbol for like,
like it means when someone is being a Karen or when it's like,
like you have Patrick from SpongeBob acting a Karen in a Karen way,
they put on the Kate Gosselin here on Patrick.
Yes,
they do.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's actually really interesting.
Um, I feel my thing is is like they're both asymmetrical.
Like the Rachel and the Karen are both asymmetrical.
And they're both like bad.
And they're both, they're both wild.
And they both got the highlights.
And it's just, there's similarities is all I'm going to say.
It's really, they really do share a family.
And now I am fully laughing thinking about the Karen hairstyle and how really stupid it is.
I had an art teacher who had that.
And it was just like, do you think it?
No, I'm not going to say anything crazy.
I'm just saying it's almost like someone who is toying with our sexuality a little bit.
Maybe, yeah.
Is sort of putting on a hairstyle that's audacious.
Listen, you can make the argument that to have a karen is to queer
hairstyle a little bit it definitely is something it's queering hair in a way you wouldn't get that
if you weren't if you weren't by nature a little queer and that you wanted to try out weird things
you know bell hooks has described queerness as wanting Wanting to try out weird things. Wanting to try out weird things.
And that is what the Karen embodies.
And there's a difference between having the Karen hair
and being a Karen and behaving like a Karen.
Oh, we should say that.
Yes.
And Karens come in all shapes and sizes and genders.
But a Karen haircut is very specific.
Yeah.
And is a little queer.
I would agree.
And I also think it's actually really our number 87,
which is describing things as cool.
Now I have always thought about this.
Yes.
Where did cool come from?
And when did it start?
I wonder,
did they,
were they saying it in the seventies,
sixties,
fifties?
Where did cool,
where's the etymology?
But do you remember where you were when you learned the word cool and what it meant?
I think that honestly, it's one of those
words. Cool kind of reminds
me of the word sucks, where it's like
I knew I wasn't supposed to use that until I was a certain
age. Oh, you weren't supposed to use the word cool?
No, I think that I was, but it's like
it kind of reminds me of that same thing where it's like
I knew I was, I knew
I had my own
opinions on the world when I was like able to be like,
I think that's cool.
Like when I could describe something
that I deemed to my taste as cool,
I was like, wow, I have like sort of ownership
over my own opinions and you know what I'm saying.
I would say that this moment describing things as cool
is really an individual moment for everybody.
It comes for different people at different times.
Exactly.
I don't think we have to track it back to when people started using it.
I just feel like when you discover for yourself what the word cool means
and that you know how to use it, that is a cultural moment.
I just think about it.
In order to describe, it's almost like, so the word cool would mean on the sort of side of being cold.
Yes.
And to describe that as something that is good or valuable, that is so interesting to me.
Yes.
Like it had to start somewhere like, hey, that's cool.
Like it's not hot, although you would call something hot to say good.
Isn't that interesting?
It's very interesting.
We don't talk about thermo-political things in this way.
No, we don't talk about thermo-political things in this way.
Thank you.
Do you remember where you were?
I had a kid in the fourth grade when I just moved to America.
His name was Shane Collins.
And he was putting forth the claim that he had invented the word tight, like using tight as a substitute for tight.
The word tight was invented right outside of Busch Gardens in Tampa Bay in the year 1979.
Thank you.
And it's important that we say that it was invented by a kid named
John David. John David. And it was said to his two friends,
Trevor and Tyler. And he was talking about the tigers
at Busch Gardens. He was saying, yo, these tigers are tight.
And actually, there was an earthquake.
Oh my God.
And no one was hurt.
Okay.
But the culture was changed.
Was there an actual earthquake that registered?
No, no, no.
I was just saying there was a cultural-
John David saying tight was the earthquake.
There was a sort of cultural earthquake.
There was.
And even though there was a cultural earthquake,
it did not make the list.
It did not make the list.
The word tight did not make the list.
Now, number 86, I don't know about. The word tight did not make the list. Now,
number 86.
I don't know about,
I love this.
I put this on.
It is Matt Rogers wearing a harness on game show,
a harness over a shirt.
And that is queer.
It actually was,
I had a lot to do with me not wanting to appear shirtless on camera. I got it.
Um,
but I'm happy that sort of,
you know,
the harness was at least,
it looked good. Something. It sort of, you know, the harness was at least telegraphing something.
It looked good.
You know, I've never really been like a harness type of gay.
You don't have to be.
No one's forcing it.
I've worn it a couple times.
It doesn't feel right on me either.
But in that moment...
I'll do a jockstrap.
Everyone should try to wear a jockstrap.
I think it's great.
Try sleeping in one.
Oh, it's really comfortable.
Make you feel fabulous.
Make you feel fabulous.
The moment of Matt Rogers wearing a harness on Game Show
that I think is wonderful,
that it all culminated towards,
was the gif that's being widely used now of Matt,
which is him saying...
Widely used, he says.
Widely used.
It's you saying,
I'm attracted to you, let's have sexual intercourse.
Oh, it's... I'm horny.
I'm so horny, let's go have sexual intercourse.
So that actually was a note
from Quibi, because I said,
I'm so horny, let's go fuck.
And they said, hey, we have to
take out the word fuck. And I was like, okay,
well, I don't want to say, I'm so horny, let's go
have sex. So I was like, let's
say, I'm so horny, let's go have sex. So I was like, let's say, I'm so horny, let's go have sexual intercourse.
Which I think is what adds value to that.
Thank you.
I had to save it.
I would have preferred to have just said, I'm so horny, let's go fuck.
Let's go fuck.
And that have been the clue.
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Okay, so number 85 is something I can agree with.
It is Stockard Channing as Rizzo in Grease.
There are worse things I could do
than put Stockard Channing on the list.
She is iconic in this movie.
Huge in this movie.
I mean, Rizzo, what an iconic character
in film and musical theater and culture.
Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee.
The classic bullying song.
She is so good at being mean
and cold and removed,
but remaining likable.
Yes!
She is one of a kind.
And Stalker sang There Are Worse Things I Could Do.
She sang There Are Worse Things I Could Do.
She gave it body.
She knew how to sing.
And she was acting first.
And let's just say other people have tried to sing There Are Worse Things I Could Do,
and they've done well, but it's not the Stalker.
And I guarantee it's one of those things
where we will never hear a version like that and that's not necessarily because it was she got the
best voice of all time or whatever but she's just iconically musically acting that song huge it's a
perfect marriage double helix of acting and singing and she got a hickey from knicky famously
famously let's keep going Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
Number 84.
This is a moment in culture.
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror.
I mean, that is culture.
You cannot get closer to a cultural moment
that deserves its spot at number 84.
I mean, come on.
It soared to number 84 on the list.
I can't really think of more iconic theme park culture than that
damn building that has been struck by lightning
and inside it are the screams of people
plummeting an elevator. An iconic
merging of story and theme park
attraction. Iconic merging of
um
what's his name?
Serling? Rod Serling. Rod Serling's
voice.
That iconic voice. I could listen to that
voice. You're not about to enter another dimension.
I think Rod Serling's got a
hot voice. I mean, I can see that.
I think he was hot. Honestly, it's that kind of
hot voice where it's like it's a little bit nerdy and that's
how you know it would sound really
like hot and horny during sex
because like I don't think a
masculine voice on the other end is always
like the way to go. sometimes like you want to hear someone going for it one of your
top like this oh no oh no I don't like that actually Matt Rogers no don't say
my name wearing a harness on game show oh my god oh my god does that sound like
that you're doing it sounds like like. That Roger's reading her in a songy show.
It kind of.
It sounds like.
It sounds like it's some,
some character.
It sounds like something I don't like.
Ow!
Okay.
Matt's blushing.
I don't like that rod.
Stop.
Okay.
Number 83.
A huge moment in culture.
Hilary Duff.
Let's say it together.
I'm sorry.
Hilary Duff. Liz's say it together. I'm sorry. Hilary Duff.
Lizzie McGuire and more.
You know what I love about Hilary Duff?
She will not stay silent.
No.
I remember when COVID first broke out,
she just posted a bunch of stuff on Instagram stories.
Remember this, everybody?
She was like,
hey, all you fucking idiots going out to bars,
stay the fuck home.
She has the shortest fuse and she's not afraid to let it light up.
I mean, one of the only celebrities that hugged us at Vulture Fest.
Yes!
Of her own volition.
Also, iconically on Younger.
Yes.
She is Lizzie McGuire.
She is Lizzie McGuire.
She was the biggest pop star of those Disney girls at the time.
When she came out, she said, so yesterday.
And she said, come clean.
Come clean.
The iconic theme song to the Hills.
Oh my God.
Wait, no, the Hills was Natasha Bettegill.
Oh, I mean Laguna Beach.
Laguna Beach.
Yes.
Started a feud with Faye Dunaway when she was what, 15 years old?
Yeah, what have you done today?
What have you done today?
What were you doing at 15 not certainly not starting a feud with the old hollywood icon yeah faye dunaway yeah certainly
not and also not for nothing but she was carrying on feuds with faye dunaway and lindsey lohan at
the same time that's huge that is iconic that is literally her saying, I want the biggest mess that's in her 70s and the biggest mess that's my young, under 15 ass age.
Let's start a feud, bitch.
Let's start a feud, bitch.
And I'll still end up on a premium cable sitcom.
Yes, hon.
Multicam.
And you will still listen.
Not multicam, single.
You will still listen to my dance records.
Have you ever been on Molly while Come Clean is playing?
A remix of Come Clean is playing.
Have I ever been on Molly while Come Clean is playing?
Everybody?
Yes, I have been around you when this happens.
It's unbelievable.
When it's safe to dance en masse again,
and you are able to maybe be on ecstasy,
come clean, come in clean.
Come in clean. When she goes, that part of the song where she goes, Beyond Ecstasy. Come Clean. Coming Clean. Coming Clean.
When she goes,
that part of the song where she goes,
I'm coming.
No!
Hilary Duff came on the record
and we all just kept dancing.
Oh, I mean, I'm sorry.
Just the beginning of that song.
Let's go back. Back to the beginning. Oh, I mean, I'm sorry. Just the beginning of that song. Let's go back.
Back to the beginning.
And then she goes,
Back to when the earth, the sun, the stars all aligned.
So stupid.
Amazing.
Hilary Duff is telling us to go back to the beginning of time.
And that's how she starts her song about love.
That's an acid trip.
It's rolling. It's every drug experience a it's it's it's it's rolling
it's every drug experience let's go back back to the beginning back to when the earth the sun the
stars all aligned a huge song a poet and i mean so yesterday the metamorphosis the album huge
come on we love i'm actually like shaking i'm shaking actually and number 82 will have me
continue to be shaking and And that is Super Bass
by Nicki Minaj!
Iconically our origin story. Iconically our
origin story. Matt and I's
origin story as friends.
Our friendship is founded on our identities as barbs.
People forget that.
Super Bass really
locked it in. Song of the Summer.
It was clearly the Song of the Summer, and I remember
hearing it
and like checking in with you like did you hear this one because it is deep in the album it is a
bonus track it wasn't even on her album no it was it was a bonus track erstwhile bonus track
taylor swift sang it on a radio show and nikki minaj credits taylor swift with the
the super bass moment and that's an iconic moment in culture for Taylor Swift to say,
I like this song Super Bass.
And then the world turned their attention to Super Bass
and they had realized what Nicki had created on that one.
On that one.
Which is, I think, the best pop rap song
Yes!
of the past, since 2000.
Of the century so far.
Esther.
Esther Dean.
Icon.
Icon.
A hook to Endo Hooks. Esther Dean. Icon. Icon. A hook to end all hooks.
And a video that matched the sonic moment.
That ice motorcycle.
Are you kidding me?
The pink leopard bodysuit.
I mean, all the guys in the Pepto-Bismol pool.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
It's so good.
It's a huge moment.
A moment, a moment, a moment.
Thank you, Nikki.
That was Nikki's beginning, really.
Number 81.
Speaking of the ladies.
Good luck booking that stage you speak of.
Rihanna to Ciara.
Who could forget this Twitter fight?
Can you get into it?
You tell the story.
The story is, I don't know the specifics,
but Ciara was on Fashion Police,
and a picture of Rihanna came on,
and Ciara took umbrage with the fact
that Rihanna has not been kind to her
at certain award shows or events or concerts, something.
She said she was rude to her at a restaurant.
Rude to her at a restaurant, even better.
So Rihanna catches wind of this and then
tweets at Ciara.
She said, my bad seeds
that I forget to tip you.
Savage. And then Ciara
said, Ciara said,
I don't have time for this. I'm about to get on stage.
And then Rihanna said,
the famous words,
more fatality words,
good luck booking that stage you speak of.
I mean,
good luck booking that stage you speak of.
Just the word choice.
I mean,
you can't beat that.
Good luck booking that stage you speak of.
And let's not gloss over the savagery of,
oh, my bad, C, did I forget to tip you?
Did I forget to tip you?
Because you must have been the absolute waitress.
Don't go on Fashion Police and talk shit about me.
I didn't get in your business.
Good luck booking that stage, you speak of.
It's amazing.
It's the most savage.
You should have known that she was going to release
a lingerie line called Savage Fenty,
and also, didn't she tell you that she was a savage?
Didn't she tell you in that tweet
that shook the stand-ems before they were real,
before stand culture really took shape?
We must move on.
Number 80.
Michelle Williams and Anne Hathaway's scenes
in Brokeback Mountain.
We're not going to talk about the men.
Enough has been said.
Enough has been said.
Enough has not been said
about the ladies of Brokeback.
Jack Nasty.
Jack Nasty.
That scene.
You don't go up there to fish, hon.
There's really not much to be said.
Anne Hathaway.
We've talked about this on Blank Check, famously.
David Sims and Griffin Newman's podcast.
But that's Anne's first kind of prestige role after Princess Diaries, after Ella Enchanted.
It was a surprise to see her doing something like this.
Yes.
And she's iconic in it.
That last phone call when she calls Heath up and tells him what happened to Jake Gyllenhaal.
Unreal. Unreal.
Michelle.
Talk about Michelle.
I mean,
Michelle is amazing.
Every frame of this movie.
She's incredible.
And she has that amazing scene where she sees them kiss.
Yes.
Totally silent reaction to that.
And then the confrontation scene at the end of the movie,
when she says,
Jack twist,
Jack nasty.
You don't go up there to fish.
And she throws the plates and
screaming oh my god i feel like they recreated this scene of her watching them kiss in the new
show love victor wow and you know bowen and i have just watched well i watched every episode
bowen watched the last episode and was impressed. I was very impressed. I was also very stunned. That's true.
But there's a moment at the end of the season that sort of calls back to Brokeback Mountain.
And I won't say what it is, but I will do this.
I'm going to shout out the lead actress from Love, Victor.
Her name is Rachel Hilson.
Rachel Hilson.
This girl is a talent.
Yes.
She is a talent.
And Bowen, you can even see.
All I got were like maybe five minutes total with her. No, even less. I and Bowen, you can even see, all I got were like
maybe five minutes
total with her.
No, even less.
I don't even think
you saw her speak much
but no,
I didn't see her speak much
but her acting,
it hit me like a ton of bricks.
She is a slay.
She's a slay.
She is so good.
I'm telling you like,
Love Victor
and also Anna Ortiz
is queen.
Yes, Anna Ortiz.
And everyone's good
and honestly,
I liked Love Victor
and I'll talk about it on another episode of The Quad but everyone's good. And honestly, I liked Love, Victor.
I'll talk about it on another episode of The Quad.
But there's more to be said about it.
Anyway.
Okay.
Number 79.
Taylor Swift turning around to see large crowds cheering.
Now, this is like a common motif.
And Matt's clapping. I'm clapping because it's, what would we,
there would be so much less to enjoy in the world
if Taylor Swift didn't turn around to see crowds
and look the way she looks.
You wouldn't get the sixth single off of the album music video
that's just the concert footage.
You know what I'm talking about?
Exactly.
In all her albums, she has the sixth single.
Once the cycle has died down, she releases it.
A music video, quote unquote, that's just the concert footage,
and half of it is just B-roll of her turning around
to be surprised that the audience is there and smiling.
Also, if you've ever seen her in concert,
she does still do it to an extent.
Did she do a reputation tour?
Reputation tour, she was kind of like in a mood.
Yeah, she was dark.
So she was famously in a mood during reputation
and she was not like necessarily looking around
and smiling at the crowd.
Although you did get a few moments throughout
that she was happy that we came.
But mostly she was in like kind of a sour mood
during Reputation.
Yeah.
Which I think was the brand.
But then you know,
she was back to turning around and smiling.
In the lover era.
During the lover era.
And I guess we're not getting a lover tour.
She is rescheduling it to next year.
Okay.
She was doing lover festivals in different cities.
I will be seeing that. I will be seeing that.
I will be seeing that. Because I love Tay.
And when she turns around to see a crowd, she's surprised
every single time and happy that everyone showed up
like it never happened before.
That was brand culture for me.
But what is the seminal moment of it?
We know it is her and the beginning
of the 1989 tour after Welcome to New York.
Of course. Turning around. Peak.
Peak in that teal sequined letter jacket,
Letterman jacket.
And just being like,
oh my God,
hi,
60,000 people.
Yeah.
Huge,
huge moment.
So at 1989,
by the time she had gotten to that level,
it's like she was turning around and like,
she was like,
ah,
but it was a little bit less like,
I'm shocked you came.
And it was like,
I'm so happy you guys are here.
It was that,
it was the white girl version of Michael Jackson popping up from the stage and people in like
Budapest like fainting for like and like screaming for like you know seven minutes straight it's the
white girl version of Beyonce popping up rising from you know a hydraulic system and everyone
losing their minds as she glares at everybody in her beautiful,
intense way.
The white girl version of that is Taylor Swift turning around over her shoulder being like,
hey, I'm so glad you guys are here.
And also, this was the beginning slash peak of iconic Taylor Swift white girl stomp.
White girl stomp.
When she would sort of stomp from one area of the stage to another.
And that was the extent of the choreo.
And that was just kind of it.
And then her reputation,
there was actually a lot of dancing.
Yes.
But the white girl stomp was never more happening during 1989.
But Taylor Swift behaviors on stage,
chiefly her turning around to see a crowd
and being shocked,
that's culture.
That's culture.
A moment in culture.
Let's move on.
This is number 78,
and it is
Marsha Cross on Desperate Housewives.
Brie Vandercamp, huge. Brie Vandercamp, huge.
Brie Vandercamp,
I feel that this was the character
that is most identifiable.
I would say the visual picture
I have in my mind of Desperate Housewives
is of Marsha Cross as Brie,
and the sort of energy I feel of when I remember it
is Eva Longoria.
Eva Longoria, of course,
but the image is Brie Van De Kamp in a
tight bun
bringing a huge dish with
Rex, her husband.
Wow, that's so funny that you think of the tight
bun. I think of that little
swoop, sort of Miss Honey from
Matilda Hare that she had.
That suburban freak.
She had that, and for some reason
the scene that I keep thinking back to,
there's several scenes that I think back to when I think of Desperate Housewives,
but one of them is season two premiere.
This is after Rex dies.
And she's just standing outside her house with like a huge dish or something.
And the other wives come over.
They're like, Brie, are you okay?
And she goes, does anyone want this?
And they're like, no, we're okay.
Do you need anything?
And she's like, well, what a waste.
And she like throws away this giant dish.
And it's like, oh, Marsha Cross.
That is the moment.
Marsha.
Marsha, Eva.
I'm going to give some props to Terry.
I would give Terry props.
I would give Terry props.
I mean, Lynette Scavo, Felicity.
Are we going to give her props?
I give them all props, but I don't give any of them
as much props as
Nicolette
Nicolette
who suffered a slap to the face
while on set
and never forget that
and had to be electrocuted
to die
she was
electric
well she died like
four different ways
in an episode
but um
which was kind of iconic
to be honest with you
but yeah
interestingly enough
when I was thinking about
Desperate Housewives
for this list
and I know you agree
I just felt it's Marsha.
It's Marsha.
It's the Marsha show.
It's Marsha.
When she iconically screamed out in grief when she found out in the last episode
that Rex had died at the first season.
The moment, the pearl-clutching moment.
And this was back when Desperate Housewives was the first scripted show to make a splash
after years and years of reality, right?
And I remember the moment was that dinner party scene where she and Rex
had just gotten in a fight.
And then like they're all the couples are sharing funny stories about their
significant others.
And then,
you know what I'm talking about?
Rex cries when he ejaculates.
Huge.
Unbelievable.
The pearl clutch.
The pearl clutch.
It's actually real culture.
Number 91.
When Rex cries, great moment the pearl clutcher it's actually real culture number 91 when rex cries rex cries when he ejaculates was the pearl clutcher yes and now we're going to move on to number 77 which is
monique gabourey sidibe and mariah in the final scene of precious you know this writer
jeffrey fletcher is his name won won the Oscar for adapted screenplay for this film.
And anyone that disputes that, you could win an Oscar for this scene alone.
This scene alone.
Oh, my God.
It got Monique the Oscar.
I mean, she won the Oscar walking in the door with this one.
And also, Gabourey is incredible in it.
Incredible.
And Mariah is...
Put some respect on Ms. Weiss. Come on. Come on, Ms. Weiss. Come on, Ms. Weiss. Incredible. And Mariah is, put some respect on Ms. Weiss.
Come on.
Come on, Ms. Weiss.
Come on, Ms. Weiss.
Ooh.
She really grounded the scene.
And the three of them were stunning.
This was an incredible scene.
One of the best scenes,
I think I'll say of the century.
I have to,
I have to think that Mariah is aware of
the diametric sort of opposite of her.
Like, she's getting such a grounded scene and, like, such a, like, the polar opposite in terms of a person from Mariah Carey.
Yes.
Like, a social worker.
Yeah.
Who's just sitting there like, hey, like, all right.
It's honestly weird, though, that she's, it's interesting to see her capable of such groundedness.
It was amazing and also to be honest with you like you think and no part of her is like tipped off by
monique that she should be bigger you know what i mean she really understands her function in the
movie and it's a great supporting performance and you know that that whole moment is it's so vivid
it's so good this scene is amazing and you know if you want to see actresses tearing
it up it is a hard story to watch but it's also you know i think the movie is amazing um precious
come on you must you must let's keep going this is number 76 when it was revealed in frozen that
it was about sisters and not men. This was iconic feminism.
Because when you hear love in a Disney film,
you think, oh, heterosexual couple, romantic.
But no, this is the love of sisters.
This is the love of sisters, and it runs deep.
And only the love of sisters could save them in the end.
Actually, if you watch and remember.
I think you're Anna, I'm Elsa.
Yes, that is true.
Okay. Which I- I've thought of this many times. I would rather be the Anna I'm Elsa. Yes, that is true. Okay.
But which I- I've thought of this many times.
I would rather be the Anna in some ways.
Why?
She just gets to live.
I have not seen Frozen 2, I should say.
Frozen 2 literally sucks.
Okay.
And I say it on the record.
Okay.
But Anna feels like she's the one who's living the most life
and Elsa's the one who's put upon,
which I'm fine with being slotted in.
But Elsa has the incredible, she has the one who's living the most life and Elsa is the one who's put upon, which I, I I'm fine with being, but Elsa has the incredible,
she has the incredible talent within,
and she has the unbelievable power of all the stars and all the weather and all
the moon and the universe within her.
And when she learns to let it free and control it,
she is unstoppable.
So it doesn't matter that Anna is off having fun,
but you are Anna and everywhere.
You are Kristen Bell.
And just like Kristen Bell, I will figure it out.
Let's keep going.
Number 75 is Tina Turner's 80s comeback.
This was a moment.
Because you know that she did not have an easy time with Mr. Ike.
And also, can we say, we need to stop with the Ike Turner and Tina Turner jokes.
So let's just say that.
I was never, I'm always like,
that's a pro-clutcher for me. Whenever
someone casually is like, oh, like, I'm
going to be the Ike to your Tina, I'm like, wait a minute.
Like, no. Also, he was
her monster and brutalizer.
Tina Turner,
we love you. That 80s comeback.
The 80s comeback, what's love got to do with it?
That iconic hair.
Simply the best.
Everything.
Just the end to end Simply the Best with.
Private Dancer.
We are the best.
Yes.
We are the best.
Honestly, she is a wild vocalist.
Power.
And you know what I wanted to do for my birthday when
i came to new york what i wanted to go see tina the broadway musical i know we were we got tickets
to see we had tickets to see tina and it was that week i think it was three days before
and then they closed it down and who knows if it'll even open again now i know it's closed
until for the rest of 2020 we can't talk about it it. It's anti-culture. Okay. Let's go in. Speaking of Broadway,
this is rule number 74.
When Ariana Grande sang The Wizard and I
from Wicked.
And just-
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
And somehow,
the Ariana Grande vocal runs worked.
When she goes,
from Alva Vas's favorite team.
Yes!
You did it!
The Wizard and I. and that look of joy
on her face right before she hit the note
and also she had gone we can't talk about
it but she had gone through something tough
a few days prior and then was
on that show right
after the news of that dropped and
slayed that song down and to watch
her get so happy like before she
was singing it and while she was singing it,
I was like,
this is a triumphant moment.
And it was kind of like,
you know,
Bernadette Peters singing Hello Dolly.
It's like,
okay,
a child of Broadway has returned.
Oh,
yes.
She's returned to the stage.
She's returned to the stage.
Miss Star of 13.
And now number 73.
Talk about a return to the stage.
Come on.
Missy Elliott revealed
at Katy Perry's Super Bowl performance.
It was a reveal.
I do want to point out that Matt Rodgers wrote in revealed.
She was revealed.
When Missy Elliott was revealed during Katy Perry at the Super Bowl.
And that giant, no, Katy was wearing that giant oversized like.
Literally every single one of Katy Perry's outfits at the Super Bowl were hideous.
Like, which is totally consistent with the rest of her career and i say that in
the most loving way and we gotta say i mean katie kind of nailed the performance i watched it the
other day literally i don't really know what else you'd want from a super bowl performance i think
hers is amazing all the girls have done amazing girls i have very few notes for the girls um
but missy missy showing up.
Get your freak on.
Is that what they did?
No, no.
Get your freak on and work it.
And work it.
And then lose control.
Huge.
Do you remember lose control?
When that would come on at school dances,
clear the floor.
Clear the floor.
I'm sorry to bring up ecstasy again.
Go ahead.
That has to be a sicko experience.
I've probably experienced that experienced not lose control but past
that dutch when past that dutch comes on and you're on molly i think i turned to you i was
with you one time when this happened to one time the time this happened that i can remember i turned
to you and i was like mean girls is an amazing movie yes that's what i said i'm sure that you
did and i'm sure i agreed emphatically because i'm rolling and I can only think of Rachel McAdams
being carried out by all these jocks
onto the field truly iconic
oh my god what an amazing visual and we're actually gonna get to that
a little bit later now let's go to
72 72 is
Fergie singing Be Italian
this was a moment in culture
and it's worth seeing the movie
9 just to watch Fergie sing
Be Italian and it is a joke to me
that the Oscar nominee from that is Penelope Cruz,
who was great,
but she wasn't Fergie singing Be Italian
as a sort of prostitute down by the river.
Do you feel like Fergie outperformed Daniel Day-Lewis?
Listen to me and look me in the eyes.
Yes.
Yes, I do.
Thank you.
I think she was a shining light.
And let's just say Daniel Day-Lewis and look me in the eyes. Yes. Yes, I do. Thank you. I think she was a shining light. Yeah.
And let's just say Daniel Day-Lewis
did not hold a candle
to Sarah Gina.
Sarah Gina.
Sarah Gina,
I will tell you.
She's Italian.
It's a crazy ass song.
If you want to know
about the love.
Ah!
Fergie!
She is psycho.
I remember watching
an interview with her
about the movie
and she goes,
well,
you know,
when I was singing,
be Italian,
my character,
Sarah Gina,
she sings be Italian so many times.
And so every time I said be Italian,
I wanted it to be a different sort of meaning.
Like,
you know,
when you say be Italian,
it's like the love of food,
the love of sex, the love of culture, the love of the Italian men.
You know, it's so many things that come with being Italian.
And so if you listen, every time I'm singing be Italian, I'm singing about loving a different part of being Italian.
And I was like, my jaw is on the floor at not only the words but you reenacting well i
actually can embody fergie literally when i was talking right now i was her in my mind's eye i
saw myself as fergie it makes sense it makes you being a vessel for fergie makes complete sense to
me do you remember the iconic last note do it no I can't do it
and she's like belting her
big old tits off
what
I walked out of nine
I stayed for Be Italian
Kate Hudson I think was first
you didn't even see Marion Cotillard's second song
I even saw Sophia Loren I think
I just maybe I was just
I just left maybe I was just- Guarda la Luna.
I just left before like the end.
I was just like, I saw what I came to see.
I saw the women I wanted.
I saw it two times in theaters, once on a date.
It was like the third date I had ever been on in my life.
Oh my God.
And-
So this is just different.
It feels like a betrayal for me that you did that.
It's me and Sudi's favorite film.
I know it is.
It's so bad.
I just want to...
It's gay culture.
It's gay culture, but it was also like...
Guarda la Luna.
It's Sofia, she's 100.
I know.
Singing.
Kate Hudson has amazing hair, and she goes...
It's such a Kate Hudson performance. Kate's never
looked better in a movie. Wait
now I feel like while you're here we have to watch it.
And we also have to continue. Let's go on.
Number 71 is Normani.
I mean
Normani has really
stormed into the scene and she has stormed right onto the list.
Right onto the list but you and I were talking
you know you and I not to pat ourselves
too much on the back but you and I. We saying we've been saying guys the actual star of fifth
harmony is normani yes camila cabello who you know has doing a lot of is going through a lot
of growth and despite her you know very anti-black past she's now putting the work in with very anti
black past and is now putting the work in with mr mendez
and they are doing whatever they can to to to do right by by everybody and everything we don't
even want to talk about camilla during normandy's moment it's crazy of you and let's just say
normani we've been talking about her for years normani it was always the best dancer in fifth
fifth harmony if you look at the work video normani is turning it out and the work from
home video she is home she is crawling up and down that damn bulldozer.
And then when you got motivation, it was...
Do you remember where you were?
Do I remember where I was?
I remember that day so vividly.
I don't remember where I was,
but I remember that it was constant watching of the video.
Capital M moment.
Talk about a moment in culture.
Motivation video,
just,
just calling forth these cultural visuals,
these throwback visuals in a way that was so satisfying.
Paying her respects to Beyonce.
And here we thought that out of all the girl group,
sort of B players that we already had the number one motivation when Kelly
Rowland came out with motivation.
Oh no. And then Normani came out with motivation. Oh,
and then Normani came out with her own motivation.
And she said,
uh,
look out for us girls who are not the lead singer of the group,
but the second lead vocalist,
the group.
Okay.
Look out for us too.
And we,
we got to say motivation by Kelly Rowland is this fantastic.
Another bop,
but just didn't make the list.
Baby.
I'm going to have to actually,
actually stop saying because it didn't make it. What did make the list is another song being motivation. I'm going to have to actually ask you to stop singing because it didn't make the list.
It didn't make it.
What did make the list is another song, number 70, Get Out of My Way by Kylie Minogue.
I mean, from the Aphrodite album.
Huge album.
This is a huge album.
And this song, the video, go on about this.
The video, you got all these gay men, these upside down triangle men running around.
I talk about their silhouettes.
They're just like beefy up top, top heavy, broad shoulder, just like fucking voguing the house down.
Light projection designs.
And then the chairs, Kylie Minogue in a red outfit just walking up to this cliff, this golden lit cliff
during the bridge. It's an incredible song.
Goddess. Goddess.
She was feeling her goddess iconography
there. And this moment
on the list is indicative of
a much larger career that is Kylie Minogue
and we do respect. I'm gonna say
something to you. Okay. You need to get more
into Kylie. You need to get into the back
catalog. I'm actually surprised
it took this long
to come up.
Because you don't know
that much Kylie.
Would that be fair to say?
I don't have
like a deep appreciation.
You know who loves Kylie
is Louis Vertel.
And Guy Branum.
Like all the LA gays
love Kylie Minogue.
And I just have this sort of,
I don't know.
I don't know who fills
the space where Kylie Minogue
needs to go.
Here's what you do.
Start out looking,
searching for her interviews.
There is no more charming
pop diva in interviews than,
she's second to maybe Cher,
in terms of being charismatic in interviews.
And once you see them in an interview,
you're like, yes, I love you.
I will follow you to the ends of the earth.
Kylie Minogue is so great in interviews.
And just listen to X,
listen to, I mean,
just everything. Kylie, listen to, I mean, just everything.
Kylie listened to,
I mean,
golden,
I think is a great record.
She,
but like,
but guy random said,
wow,
Gaga,
when she released chromatica gave us a Kylie Minogue record.
Like that is like the ethos of Kylie,
just giving you dance anthems down boots.
Okay.
Let's keep going.
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Let's talk about number 69.
You don't have homework to do for this.
No.
The discovery of penicillin!
Antibiotics, huge.
We could not be where we are in the culture without them.
I don't think that I could have come back from so many sicknesses that I have had
had it not been for antibiotics.
Yes.
And I just want to shout out to all the doctors right now.
And we are thinking of you.
We're thinking of you.
Let's keep going.
This is number 68.
This is an iconic moment.
I'm so happy you put this on.
Thank you.
When Ash's Charmeleon evolves into a Charizard.
Because this is truly the loss of innocence.
This is the loss of innocence.
This is saying goodbye.
This is saying goodbye.
And, you know, if you remember from the show,
Charmeleon was not very nice to Ash,
did not follow his orders.
No, but it's crazy because it's like,
this is actually, there's a much deeper meaning here
because the Charmander was really sweet.
So sweet.
You never would have seen this coming.
There's a loss of innocence,
but you know what else this is?
This is a model of a toxic relationship.
Yes, and it was really,
it was Ash let him mature too quickly.
And it was really what it was,
was overtraining and it was abuse.
It was abuse. It was overtra overtraining, and it was abuse. It was abuse.
It was overtraining abuse.
It happens all the time.
And because when you remember that Charizard was even worse than Charmeleon
in terms of being so cocky, not listening to Ash,
flying away from battles when Ash needed him the most.
And then later on, I think it was in the Johto League,
that Ash gives up Charizard.
Yeah, ultimately he realizes they'd both be better off.
A very Bree and Andrew moment.
Very Bree and Andrew moment from Desperate Housewives.
But that was the moment that they saw each other as equals,
was when Ash was able to let Charizard go,
and Charizard respected that from Ash.
So I think it's a huge moment.
Ultimately, this is one of the most,
I think it's the most painful relationship
in the Pokemon universe.
I think so.
And an amazing arc.
And an amazing arc.
Amazing arc.
Thank you.
Number 67.
When Gaga went,
Ah!
And a star is born.
I was with you the day the trailer dropped.
Yeah, and to say,
I think I Googled it every day from when I saw the trailer to when the movie
came out,
I was so excited for a star is born and it did not disappoint.
And to know that not only was that amazing moment in trailer history,
it was an amazing moment in cinema history in a way that like made me forget.
Like it made me,
it cause for a while I was like,
there's not going to be like a melodramatic movie.
That's going to rock us on a cultural level like this uh uh like since you know i i was
thinking this thing years ago i was like there's not gonna be like a my heart will go on yeah i
think that what we had there was the closest thing we were gonna get to like a my heart will go on
moment where like a ballad like that was really from the soul of a movie and had to
only be for that movie like really crossed over although we did have let it go yeah actually you
know what it's weird because i always think of like the moment of ballads from movies being huge
hits as very yesteryear but frozen and and a star is born both had huge oscar winning songs that
were huge mainstream hits
I think
Shallow was one of
Lady Gaga's biggest
records ever
I think it
I think it has like
one trillion streams
on Spotify
yeah it's like
really crazy
amount of streams
um
you're right
you're right
one trillion streams
it's one trillion streams
I wanna say
it's a real culture
number 83
Shallow has
one trillion streams on Spotify.
But, you know, it's like, my heart will go on.
I don't want to miss a thing.
It's like all these, like, huge, sweeping, melodramatic songs.
Yeah, I thought they were, like, a thing of the past.
But then here Gaga and Idina go.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Number 66.
Kelly Clarkson singing Natural Woman on American Idol.
I have to give you the floor on this.
So there were a lot of performances that were big moments for Kelly on American Idol.
And Bowen had suggested that we put Kelly Clarkson winning American Idol on the culture list.
But the thing is, it was a foregone conclusion that she would win early on in the season when she sang Natural Woman.
Because she hit this whistle tone note.
She was rocking a tie and a little hat she was so dressed like a little businessman yeah what was the theme that week this theme was 60s okay and she sang natural woman and it was so she was
20 years old it was well beyond her years and i said this is not only going to be a star and the
winner of the show but this is going to be someone in my life.
And she has remained so.
And I'm looking right now at her vinyl,
her Meaning of Life vinyl.
It's a signed vinyl.
And she just won an Emmy,
a daytime Emmy for talk show host.
Halfway to EGOT.
Halfway to EGOT.
And Kelly, I've known it from the beginning.
I love you.
You're a moment of culture.
Do you have anything to add?
I just want to say how emotional I am to see you pay tribute like this.
Love her.
She's a moment of culture.
We love Kelly so much.
And Kelly was, you know, Kelly earlier on in the last episode was kind of involved in the moment of culture of Matt and I being on The View.
She was the reason we were there.
She was the reason we were there.
She wasn't the culture that day.
No, the culture was us.
The culture was us.
And that gentleman who went to go to the concert,
but we don't speak of him.
Let's move on.
Kelly is number 66,
but number 65 is Sailor Moon.
This iconic young woman.
Iconic young woman.
Took the morning time by storm in my house.
Thank you.
In your house.
Sailor Moon,
Usagi,
Serena,
whatever you want to call her,
but just the world around her
gave us the magical girl
archetype in anime,
in manga.
What a heroic girl
fighting evil by moonlight,
winning love by daylight,
never running from a real fight.
This is the one
named Sailor Moon
and the transformation sequences
Sailor Venus
Sailor Mercury
Sailor Mars
Sailor Jupiter
a dream
I could go on
and Sailor Stars
the series
you had the
search for your love
you had Sailor Neptune
Sailor Uranus
Sailor Pluto
iconic queer characters
queer culture
trans characters
a huge thing.
A huge part of the culture.
I just remember watching Sailor Moon in the morning,
and it was so early when I had to go to school that it was still dark out.
So it was like watching a primetime show, but before school.
I remember it was so early in the morning that it was on.
It had to be on.
It was always dark outside.
Or maybe it was raining.
I don't know.
I was young.
Okay, so we're moving on to number 64.
This is Parker Posey
and Josie and the Pussycats.
Iconic when she walks
down the stairs to her own party.
Why do you do what
you do to me, baby?
You're shaking my confidence,
driving me crazy.
You know if I could, I'd
do anything for you.
Please, that's so good.
And she is just sort of
letting her body sway.
It's incredible.
I mean, and that movie
really is like comedically
like so huge.
You had Parker Posey,
you had a Eugene Levy cameo.
Alan Cumming.
Alan Cumming, Missy Pyle.
Rosario.
Rosario.
Tara Reid, Rachel Lee Cook. Of course, yes. And Donald Faison andy Pyle. Rosario. Rosario. Tara Reid, Rachel Leigh Cook.
Of course, yes.
And Donald Faison and what's his name?
Breckin Meyer.
Breckin Meyer, we love.
One of my crushes.
Seth Green.
Seth Green.
It was like of the time like so perfect,
but then you had like the Christopher Guest flavor
in there with Parker and with Eugene.
And I just remember that movie influenced,
we've talked about this before,
but that movie has influenced me so much.
Oh, it's also well ahead of its time in terms of what it was saying and what it was exploring come
on now number 63 is johan gutenberg inventing movable type well we certainly wouldn't be here
it certainly wouldn't be easy to live life without what he had done imagine having to read a
handwritten book no no thank you not my favorite gutenberg. That would be Steve Gutenberg. We love Steve.
But Steve Gutenberg didn't make the list.
You know who did make the list is number 62, Robin.
We love Robin.
Robin has created some of the most amazing music of our time.
Yes.
And I would actually say the song that defines our generation the most is Dancing on My Own.
Dancing on My Own, absolutely.
There's pathos.
There's a beat.
There's suffering. There's joy.
And, you know, one of my
fondest memories is of going to the Robin
Honey concert at Barclays Center. Yes.
With my sister, Matt Rogers.
And Josh and Mo. And Josh and Mo.
And Dave. And we
brought poppers. And
when the poppers hit at a
Robin concert, they hit. They hit
so hard. I saw Matt voguing the fastest vogue I've ever seen in my life.
I was really feeling myself at that Robin concert.
And how could you not?
I mean, that was one of the best summers ever, honestly.
And also, that was just such a...
Last summer.
Oh, my God.
It's so sad.
That was a great summer.
It was so good.
No, I'm so sad.
We'll have great summers.
We'll have great summers. Anyway, Robin provided us with that moment and so much more and i remember her in 1995 bitch show me
love singing show me love and that is longevity right there yes come on swedish pop icon to be
celebrated number 61 hey clown jester you have done it again. Constantly raising the bar for the circus.
This is the Michelle Obama meme replaced with words clown and Jester and circus.
Look it up.
Look it up.
And, of course, foolishly.
And doing it foolishly.
It's perfect.
It's just a good meme.
It's a great meme.
And it's a culture moment.
It's a culture moment.
We had to include it.
Number 60 is
Feud, Betty and Joan.
Where is the next series of feud so i looked into this
okay they were they were gonna do diana and charles yeah um and then they were gonna call
it something else and it lost the feud name like the pre-colon feud really and then ryan
murphy signs his netflix deal so then i think feud is contractually bound to fx so now that
he's on net, he's like,
I don't know when I'll be able to do Feud again,
but I would love to do Feud again when I can.
So it's indefinitely just done.
But Feud, well, we had a Feud.
Isn't that sad?
That is a bummer,
because I actually thought that Feud
was one of the better Ryan Murphy offerings.
I thought so too.
Yeah.
And, you know, whatever,
but I thought Betty and Joan was great.
Even though the writing is like- I love Betty and Joan, and I need a little bit of over-the-top writing like that too. Yeah. And, you know, whatever. But I thought Betty and Joan was great. Even though the writing is like right.
I love Betty and Joan.
And I need a little bit of over the top writing like that sometimes.
Yes.
I mean, the last episode of, spoiler alert, Jessica Lange as Joan Crawford.
It's genius.
Hallucinating all of, you know, the old Hollywood people who tormented her.
So good.
She's truly good in it.
And honestly,
had it not been for Big Little Lies and Nicole,
that was a crazy year.
It was a crazy year.
And we're actually going to talk about it.
It's okay.
Number 59 is S Club 7.
I mean, these young girls, hot.
Sort of like, you know,
trying to be the new group of the moment
and succeeding there for a little bit.
Because it was Simon.
It was not Simon. It was,
um,
it was not Simon Fuller,
Miss Fuller,
Simon Fuller signing them.
And this was hot off the success of the spice girls, you know,
S club seven S club party.
Um,
never had a dream come true.
Oh yeah.
All that just really songs for the moment for the moment.
And we can all remember that moment sort of like wishing we had like a
boyfriend or a girlfriend at the time and sort of like wishing we had like a boyfriend
or a girlfriend at the time
and sort of like, you know, soda pop fantasies.
Yes.
Yeah, that's how I think of them.
Soda pop fantasy.
Number 58, I can barely see,
is a little bit of a different fantasy
of a soft drink or something you could drink.
It's the invention of iced coffee.
I couldn't live without it.
Me neither, love the stuff.
Moving forward, number 57 is Big Little Lies.
I mean, for me, this is Desperate Housewives, but make it even richer and prestige.
And with an Oscar-worthy director and real A-list talent behind the camera, I identify
as Reese in Big Little Lies.
I guess I'm a Shailene. We've never really figured out what I am. Oh, you say I'm Nicole. You think I'm Celeste. I identify as Reese in Big Little Lies. I have, I guess I'm a Shailene.
We've never really figured out what I am.
Oh, you say I'm Nicole.
You think I'm Celeste.
I feel you're Nicole.
I feel you're Celeste.
Okay.
But with power.
You're Celeste when she's in the courtroom.
What do we think of season two?
I don't hate season two as much as everyone else does.
It dipped in the middle.
But I would say that i would rather have big little
lies than not have it yes like i'm oh if if at the end of the season i'm mad because there was too
much pulp on my drama about no like rich a-list actresses it's like that's fine that's fine i'd
rather like yeah you know how many seasons of big bang theory like have been on no we can get a few
seasons of big little lies i don't really ever can get a few seasons of Big Little Lies. I don't really
ever understand when people are like
we don't need a third season. It's like
yeah I don't need like
I don't need another
a million dollars but I want it.
Thank you. And it's the same
Big Little Lies season 3 would be the equivalent of
a million dollars. You know what they didn't do
enough in season 2 which they also didn't do
enough in season 1 was not enough Maren dungy right well i thought that she
would be a bigger part exactly that's what i'm saying but she wasn't yeah she wasn't and she
also was iconically in private practice the spinoff when it was a backdoor pilot and then
they recast her with miss audrey mcdonald who unfortunately did not make the list not make the
list um let's keep going but who did make the list number 56 debor the list. Let's keep going. But who did make the list? Number 56,
Deborah Wilson on MADtv.
One of the best sketch performers
of all time,
in my opinion.
You put her up there with Gilda.
Oh, I mean,
she pops on the screen
like no other
and the choices are
out of control,
but they are welcome.
Let's just,
I'm truly rattling these off.
You got Whitney Houston,
you got Bonifa Latifah, Harifa Sharifa Jackson, you had... Prehistoric. Prehist You had Whitney Houston, you had Bonifa Latifah,
Harifa Sharifa Jackson,
you had...
Prehistoric.
Prehistoric.
I mean, you had, yes,
prehistoric McLamazon Huntresses,
A.D.
She was like the...
Mariah.
She was Mariah.
She was this default commercial parody voice.
She was the Cecily Strong of Mad TV.
She...
She did so much.
She did so much.
Incredible.
Oh, she did Diana Ross
in a crazy Halloween-themed sketch,
if people remember,
where she bit Michael McDonald's nipple off.
I love Mad TV so much,
as people know.
Deborah Wilson, like, popped in a way.
I fucking love her.
And I agree.
I mean, this is a seminal artist.
Artist.
And speaking of artists,
number 55, Brandy Cinderella.
This is the definitive telling
of Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella.
Thank you.
And you had an Asian male lead in the 90s.
Are you kidding me?
She had biracial parents.
Yes.
It was Victor Garber and Whoopi Goldberg.
And it was just a completely colorblind cast.
Not that that even had anything to do with it.
I remember being little and not even thinking about that.
No, of course.
It was just like amazing to watch.
And Whitney was the godmother, of course.
The Whitney Houston.
The Whitney.
And impossible.
Things are happening every day.
I mean, come on.
And Brandi, iconic, sitting all alone in her little corner
in her own little chair.
Sitting in her chair.
And did you ever see the interview footage
or the footage of them staying together in the studio?
Yes.
It's just beautiful.
Well, that was Brandy's idol.
That was Brandy's idol,
but you could see that Whitney was pushing her.
Because she knew she was capable.
And look, you had a gay dad, Victor Garber.
Huge, huge.
And the gay dad was married to a Bernadette.
I mean, iconic Bernadette getting a big part like that.
We love.
I remember my mom said to me, that's Bernadette Peters.
And I was like, I don't know that, but I do know that.
I want to know more.
You know what I mean?
I was like, I'm actually interested in hearing more about this Bernadette Peters
because there's something going on here.
That was my first exposure to Bernadette, I think.
I would imagine so.
So moving forward, we have number 54.
This is iconic.
Jurassic Park.
Think about all the culture that Jurassic Park has given us.
I mean, not only do we have Laura Dern staring up
and wonder at what we then realized later
was a CGI dinosaur.
There wasn't even anything for her to look at.
Talk about acting.
Talk about acting.
Then you've got, I mean.
B.D. Wong.
B.D. Wong serving up iconic fish villain.
You got that T-Rex, another villain in the film.
Very big, very mean.
The raptors, extremely nasty.
Very nasty raptors.
And we had the most handsome creation of all.
Yes.
As Dr. Ian.
Dr. Ian.
Dr. Ian Malcolm.
Thank you, Jeff.
And why is his, Mr. Jeff.
Mr. Jeff Goldblum.
Mr. Jeff Goldblum.
And we had.
This is a sex icon.
Sex icon.
You had the iconic little cartoon strain of DNA
narrating how the park came to be,
talking about the amber, talking about the mosquito.
Dinosaur theme park.
They sat down and they wrote dinosaur theme park of course
this was a novel first thank you Michael Crichton
thank you Michael then we had Steven Spielberg making it to
the amazing moment and then we have the
theme parks everywhere nationwide I
mean internationally girl
Jurassic Park now we have Jurassic World
the movies are
trying something new yeah
but they do give us Bryce Dallas Howard
outrunning a T-Rex in her heels.
We love that.
And then in the second movie, a ponytail.
Chaotic good.
Chaotic good.
This is the definition of chaotic good.
Absolutely.
It's actually Roller Culture number 70.
Bryce Dallas Howard outrunning a T-Rex
is the definition of chaotic good.
Thank you.
Let's move on.
Number 53 is Dr. Chase Mer meridian we just watched this film
i haven't seen any i haven't seen a lot of schumacher i have not seen a schumacher film
since he passed away oh you need to watch batman forever and batman and robin in a double feature
because nicole kidman as dr chase meridian is not what you remember she is driven only by her
sexual impulses in the film she She has iconic Veronica Lake hair.
She rings the bat symbol,
which means that something is happening
just so she can get Batman on a roof
so that she can like, you know, sort of position him.
Oof.
She is flashing her boobies around.
Like.
She is driven wild by her own wiles.
And this was.
And she's a psychotherapist.
This is Val Kilmer Batman.
Val Kilmer Batman.
Not even the hottest Batman, I'm sorry
to say. I mean, not even close.
Yeah. Who do you think is the hottest Batman?
I mean, to be
totally honest with you, the hottest Batman
flat out period is Christian Bale.
You have a body like
that. George Clooney, you didn't see the body.
Well, he wasn't even trying. George Clooney?
No, he was like mad to be there. Yeah, yeah, of course.
He wasn't even happy about being there. God, Batman and Robin is truly, truly crazy. Oh, he wasn't even trying. George Clooney? No, he was like mad to be there. Yeah, yeah, of course. He wasn't even happy about being there.
God, Batman and Robin is
truly, truly crazy. Oh, it's
one of the most insane movies ever,
but we're going to talk about it a little bit more.
Okay, so number 52 is
The Sims!
We'd be without The Sims. One of the best selling games
of all time. You know,
you could live out all
your fantasies on The Sims.
I did feel
rich playing the sims after rosebud of course after the rosebud cheat but you know to live
out your fantasies by building as big of a house as you wanted um i felt rich i've never felt did
you ever do the code to get unlimited money yeah rosebud Rosebud. Yeah, Rosebud. Always. Always, always. And, you know, it was fun to,
in the sequels, you know,
there's aspirations that you can work with
and it was fun to sort of, you know,
make my character the mayor of SimCity.
That's incredible.
Thank you.
See, I was like a rollercoaster tycoon person.
Yes.
But I feel that The Sims earned its place here
because I even played The Sims as well
and to sort of watch my characters
quote-unquote interact
was very formidable for me. Not formidable. It was formative. this year because I even played the Sims as well and to sort of watch my characters quote unquote interact was
very formidable for me.
Not formidable. It was formative.
And formidable. And I don't know my words but I do in my
heart. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.
Number 51. Fiona Apple's VMA
speech. The world is shit.
The world is bullshit. The world is bullshit.
This is bullshit she said. And she was right.
She was right and she said
go with yourself. Go with said, go with yourself.
Go with yourself.
Go with yourself.
Isn't that beautiful?
Honestly, she only looked crazy at the time.
But now, looking back, ahead of her time.
Ahead of her time.
Go with yourself.
Don't go with what this industry wants you to do.
Go with yourself.
And what?
Also, what?
18 at the time.
Young.
Michelle Branch age.
Billie Eilish age.
Kate Bush age. Smart bush age smart ass smart
ass girl and moving forward we have another incredible ass number 50 lucy lou saying flip
your goddamn hair and charlie's angels to of course cameron diaz who then flipped her hair
to great success to great success and to luke wilson luke wilson who was hot and hot but also
matt leblanc was also hot in that movie,
and so was Sam Rockwell.
So was Sam Rockwell.
Tom Green was Drew Barrymore's love interest.
Not hot in the movie.
But, you know, he served a purpose.
He was goofy.
Definitely goofy.
I love Charlie's Angels.
Me too.
Oh, my God.
Iconically.
A really well-directed movie, and the writing is so fun.
And it's really...
I mean, it did what the new one didn't do, which it went for the fun and the jokes and the the sort of campiness
which is this idea that there would be a charlie's angels you have to blow that up you have to blow
that up and the music and the soundtrack and charlie's angels is all like 70s classics mostly
like it's like it's like a tribute to the original charlie's angels it's so good it's so good i also
think it understood something that the new charlie's angels didn't which is like the original Charlie's Angels. It's so good. It's so good. I also think it understood something
that the new Charlie's Angels didn't,
which is like the new Charlie's Angels,
like what I like about the old Charlie's Angels,
and maybe there's something weird about me saying this,
but I liked that they were like overtly sexual,
that they were like really in control of their sexuality.
And this new one sort of had like a,
almost like a chip on its shoulder about like-
Feminism?
Yeah, like it was just like, no, they're not're just they're just soldiers and it's like okay i mean
yes but also that doesn't like let's not shame the movie that came first and the like female
production team that put it together and like you know it is it's third wave i feel like charlie's
angels the mcgee to the two the two McG movies was very third wave feminist
in the way that it was like
they were empowered
because of their sexuality
not in spite of it.
Anyway.
Flip your goddamn hair is great.
It was amazing.
And Lucy Liu, we stan.
And now we are in the top 50.
Number 49.
En Vogue and Salt-N-Pepa
collabing on Whatta Man.
I mean, come on, come on.
I mean, this is a huge moment.
Like, maybe best singing girl group of all time, En Vogue.
I think so.
And then, but just the most, I mean, it's a perfect marriage.
No one is compromised on the song.
And, you know, you get, you know, he's so crazy.
I think I want to have your baby.
I mean, like, perfect, like, seamless into rap.
It's drenched.
So good.
Drenched in goodness.
Come on.
Here we go.
Number 48, Billy Porter's curtain hat.
You can't say much about this other than iconic.
Other than iconic and watch the video of it opening.
It's very funny.
It is very indicative of Billy Porter's fashion sense,
which is a whole moment and it's represented here on the list.
The list.
The top 200.
Let's keep going. Number 47 is
God Warrior. You came to
my mind. I saw her. I went to
go see her at her station. You came to my
mind. You came to my mind. Honestly,
the God Warrior speech from Wife Swap.
It's beautiful.
We saw Bob the Drag Queen
do a lip sync to it. That was the next level.
It broke it all open for me. I went home that night and I watched. I saw Bob do Drag Queen do a lip sync to it that was the next level it broke it all open for me
I went home that night and I watched
I saw Bob do it at Barracuda
went home watched it and I was like
maybe I even texted you I was like this is an incredible thing
oh it's an incredible moment in television history
and now did you know that she's like
repentant
yes and she's like very woke
she celebrates LGBTQ
and like she's like I think she celebrates LGBTQ and like, and like, she's like,
I think she's down with like,
like the uprising too.
And like black lives matter.
I think she's like,
I love that.
I think she's like fully like repented and she's like gone the opposite.
Well,
I mean,
to see yourself be that,
to see what you think is a normal thing,
be blown up and like become such a crazy moment in history.
Maybe she had some good re-educating.
Yes, but that doesn't always happen.
But like, I just think the,
I'm going to blow out the mic.
She's not a Christian!
Amazing.
She's not a Christian!
Oh my God, it's tainted!
Tainted!
All right, number 46 is Fergie singing the national anthem
Of course she capped it off with
Let's play some basketball
She makes it on the list twice
A huge feat
Earned them both
She did a jazzy rendition of the national anthem
Jazzy rendition
And we love
I don't think it's actually that embarrassing for her
I think she like
she took us by the shoulders and she was like
you're going to listen to me sing the National Anthem
and I'm going to do it my way and it's going to be a moment
and you know what we're talking about it right now
you know who we're not talking about right now
the all-star game
we're not talking about anyone else's version of the National Anthem
except Fergie
you're right
number 45
Tyra Banks pretending to die slash faint
on America's Next Top Model.
So of course this is the...
You really are the Tyra historian out of the two of us.
Not really. I didn't even watch that
Top Model that much. But
of course we know the moments. And the moments
are, you know,
Eva and
all the famous winners.
All the famous winners. All the famous winners.
All of them.
But you remember this moment, right?
She's sitting down with the girls on a chair.
She's like, I really don't feel good anyway.
Okay, I just wanted to talk to you guys about this challenge.
But I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, you guys.
I'm just so tired.
Okay, and then she gets up and then all of a sudden trips over herself and eats shit on the
carpet of this room as the girls freak out and you just you have to listen to these screams because
the girls were like no no no it's incredible and tyra just like flips her body so she lands like
on her shoulders like you're not sure if she's seizing or if she's fainting.
And then everyone's like, someone get her a water, get her a water.
And then she gets up and then of course, famous.
She goes, today we're going to learn about acting.
Oh my God.
It's so relentless.
Today we're going to learn about acting.
Well, let's just go right into our next one, which is number 44.
Tyra Banks pretending to have rabies on Tyra.
So this is when she took her acting to the next level
and pretended that she was bitten by a dog
who gave her rabies,
foamed at the mouth live on stage during an interview
and collapsed and roared at her guest like she was a dog.
Barked to the camera.
And so in Tyra's mind,
having rabies is turning into a dog.
That's what she was telegraphing, yes.
And the fact that she took a sip from her water bottle
and filled herself with foam
and then pretended to foam at the mouth and turn into a dog
and growl at guests, I don't understand.
She deserved the Emmy.
She won the damn daytime Emmy for this.
She sure did, and she deserved that one.
She was the Kelly Clarkson of her time.
And gonna have to agree with that one,
and gonna have to say number 43 is
Aretha Franklin's gowns interview.
The iconic sit down
that Aretha did when she released
her Diva covers album.
And she was asked about Taylor Swift
and she said, okay, gowns.
Beautiful gowns. Great gowns.
And just watch it.
Just watch. I mean, you know,
most of you know by now on that one that's
from that interview that's a book of lies and trash is what that is that is nothing but lies
and trash that is a book of lies and trash and of course sissy's baby sissy's baby i mean
aretha franklin the grand dame of music, as far as I'm concerned,
holding her place and just not having any of it from this interviewer.
Aretha was a talent.
And moving forward,
we have Shoray Aghdashilou's voice.
This is that deep voice.
Deeper than that.
This is the deep voice.
This is Shoray.
It's just a gorgeous... I can't even do it.
She has an iconic sound. The rasp.
You can't. Has she really done
a lot after House of Sand and Fog?
No, she was on Grey's Anatomy.
She was on, I think she's
been on some shows in sort of the
streaming era that we're not, that we're
just not thinking of, but we love Shora.
I love Shora. Persian icon. And I'm trying
to think, like, I think she was in one
iconic thing, but it's, like, not jumping out to me.
I know, I know. House of St. Invaugh was pretty iconic,
I guess. Well, she had the Oscar nom. She had the Oscar
nom. But it's a shame to me that
she hasn't worked more, because she's iconic and, like,
Beautiful. Oh, stunning.
And have you seen pictures of her from when she was young?
Yes, gorgeous, but I'm saying, like, she's aged
into her beauty.
Yeah, she was, like, a screen goddess. Okay, so, speaking of'm saying she's aged into her beauty. Yeah, she was like a screen goddess.
Okay, so speaking of goddesses, number 41.
Greek mythology.
I mean, so many young girls are in these stories.
Yes, a lot of young girls and young boys.
We learn about Zeus.
Yes.
We learn about her.
Rapist.
Zeus is a rapist.
Really?
So many Zeus babies are products of rape.
I'm sorry to bring the mood down. I have to read this again.
Yes, I'm sorry to bring the mood down, but it's
true. I just want to say I have nothing
to do with my ancestors. I apologize for them
and I denounce them. Thank you. Thank you for
taking accountability, but I feel like
Greek mythology, if you really
dug into Greek mythology, you learn about the human condition
and you learn about the darkness and the light
and humanity. And that's what we try to do in entertainment.
Expose the darkness and the light. humanity. And that's what we try to do in entertainment. Yes. Expose the darkness and the light.
So thank you, Greeks.
Thank you, Greeks.
Now we have number 40.
The opening piano in A Thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton.
You know it.
You know it.
You'll love it.
We don't even know.
It's a comedic beat in White Chicks.
If you ever hear it,
it is, I think is, I honestly think if that came on and we were on molly we would flip a ship it's transportive yes it is takes
you back to another i remember the first time i heard it i was in the car on the way to catechism
to study to study the catholic religion on a tuesday night and i was in the car and i was like
we i can't get out of the car yet.
I have to know what's happening with this song.
When the strings come in, you're like,
I, it has its damn claws in me.
And iconic, iconic song, iconic song.
And yes, I was in the car.
It was on Radio Disney.
And I was like, this is a huge, a huge deal.
Vanessa.
And then that really was, you forget,
like because that song was so huge,
it feels one hit wonderish,
but she also brought to you with White Houses
and she brought it to you with Ordinary Day.
Yes.
We love Vanessa.
I love Vanessa.
I believe she was on Broadway.
I think she was in Beautiful on Broadway.
She was in Beautiful.
And you know what?
She edged out a lot of competition.
She edged out Robin. She edged out
I mean, Aretha.
Yeah, I mean, but she didn't get to the
heights of number 39. No, which is
Little Mix hating singing Black
Magic. So this is a part of culture
that you didn't know about until I told you.
Yesterday, because we were listening to Little Mix
and you were playing the bop of bops
thinking about you. What is it?
It was, do you think about us?
Oh, think about us.
I'm so sorry, I mistitled.
Think about us.
And I was like, put on Black Magic.
And you said, well, no, they hate singing Black Magic.
Even though I like Black Magic.
I love Black Magic.
I said to Bowen, I was like,
they don't like Black Magic.
And then he was like, what?
And I was like, have you ever seen the YouTube video
of them being so over singing Black Magic and then we came back
and we watched it and it's true Jesse Nelson
in particular hates Black Magic
and there's a it's like this clip of the
many times they've sung it they clearly hate
doing it they're doing it acoustic
they hate it and then there's a
clip at the end which is them all in quarantine
drinking wine together doing like an insta live or
something oh you do a great address the impression
go ahead oh no here we go this next question is what's the song you hate doing the
most black magic black magic and they're like oh yeah you don't really you really don't like
black magic it's just i've never really liked it to be honest oh jesse i love i love their iconic
and black magic and we love little max although i did do think that if we had to sing it every day To be honest. Oh! Jesse! I love Little Mix and they're iconic.
And Black Magic is great. And we love Little Mix.
Although I do think
that if we had to sing it every day,
we'd be really sick of it too.
Oh yeah.
For sure.
But okay,
their harmonies
when they sing that song acoustic
are unreal.
And the music video
I think is an homage to The Craft.
We love that.
Very that.
Number 38.
Alfre Woodard
on Desperate Housewives.
Now,
I was a little bit questioning this one
you could have reordered it
you could have put
Martial Cross above Alfre
but I think it's right
that Alfre is up here
yes
Betty Applewhite
Betty Applewhite
and she iconically
had
two sons
one of which
was a killer
and the other
which was
locked in the basement
locked in the basement
who she thought
was the killer
but it was actually the other son who actually killed her son matthew who was the hot one
very hot actor crazy hot he was also on true blood and you see him have sex many times great
that's perfect he has sex with rutina wesley's character tara rutina oh my god too gorgeous why
isn't rutina on the list rutina is one of the best actors we've had in television.
I'm going to say right now,
Rutina, we apologize.
You were an honorable mention.
Honorable mention.
You and Nicole Scherzinger are an honorable mention.
Yes.
Rutina.
Rutina.
And also Anna Paquin's Gap.
Anna Paquin's Gap.
And she made it work.
And the iconic gay sex scene on True Blood
between Alexander Skarsgård and Ryan Quantin.
Thank you.
Thank you. Oh, no, no, no, no, but I just
want to say before we move on, Alfre Woodard on Desperate Housewives
just...
Great work. Emmy nominated. Emmy nominated.
The acting is so restrained
and you can tell there's a
darkness behind whoever this
character is and she just
pursed lips. Alfre Woodard can act
her ass off with her
pursed lips. And also, please, if you want ass off with her pursed lips and also please if you want
more alfrey go see heart and souls yes um okay number 37 murder on the stupid bitch express
this is come on matt what is it it's the iconic two episode iconic two-part episode of our very
favorite podcast hosted by maisie rodman and Theda Hamill called
Nympho Wars and I
have never laughed so hard so soon
into the beginning of a podcast episode
it starts off
with an improvised transaction scene
and somehow it works
oh you've never seen it
for people who don't know improv
you can't be doing transaction scenes
you can't be doing transaction scenes but You can't be doing transaction scenes,
but Macy and Theta make it work so well.
I mean, Joel Kim Booster has said that you are the Macy of this podcast.
Wow.
You are sort of the joy, the chaotic good
that's just running amok.
Yes, and I am sort of the straight man
who has to straight man against everything.
And I've never been more flattered.
I love that for us.
I'm also flattered.
And I thank Joel.
Nympho Wars is a superior podcast in every way.
I would say it's better than ours.
Please listen to it.
Wow.
To qualify.
I'm sorry.
And no,
I would,
I wouldn't disagree.
And also I would say Joel Kim Booster,
thank you so much,
but you didn't make the list.
You didn't make the list.
Not this time.
Number 36.
Eva Longoria saying hyaluronic Acid.
I've never been
struck by a
skincare commercial in my life.
Her energy has inspired me from the
beginning. Gary O'Sullivan
down to
Hyaluronic Acid. Yeah, I mean,
I've been inspired every step of the way. She's the queen
of one-liners, and this is, in its own way,
a one-liner. The queen of Corpus Christi, Texas.
Thank you.
The queen of Corpus Christi.
Number 35.
Documentaries about important subjects,
such as global warming.
Such as whales.
Such as the way that you can go from being a waitress in the Bronx
to becoming a congresswoman.
The youngest congresswoman.
Yes.
And, you know, there are so many documentaries out there.
And we would suggest that if you are someone who, you know, it's not easy for you to read
a book, but you want to learn, you could watch a documentary.
I would say in a lot of ways, Matt Rogers, famously more of a documentary watcher.
I'm famously kind of, I read a little bit more books than Matt.
But I would say Matt is maybe in general
more informed than I am on certain subjects.
And it's because he watches the documentaries.
Lately, I've been watching a lot of documentaries
and absorbing a lot of new information,
which is new for me.
I usually just kind of live in my own world.
But now that I'm in quarantine,
I've actually been branching out
in terms of my interests and educating myself.
I love, I want you to school my ass
on Jeffrey Epstein whenever you can.
I could.
Yes.
Okay,
so number 34.
Rachel McAdams
from 2004 to 2006.
We had Mean Girls,
we had Wedding Crashers,
we had The Notebook,
we had Red Eye.
That,
this is like
right around Family Stone.
And it ended,
yes,
and I made sure to look up
when Family Stone came out.
Family Stone was 2005, I want to say, maybe 2006.
What a run of movies.
Could do everything.
A moment, though, for an actor who deserved,
who fully rose to the occasion on every single level,
every single time.
I think it's like,
I remember at the time being a fucking teenager
and being like, wow, this is is huge and I don't know why
I'm so obsessed with this actress I was going
on her she had star quality
I was going on her IMDB every damn
day commenting on the damn message boards being like
I love Rachel McAdams you were a super fan
I haven't really shared this with you I was I used
to go on Canadian Queen Canadian Queen
I would always I would go on all the IMDB message
boards because back in the day you had at the bottom
of every profile message boards and I would go on all the IMDB message boards because back in the day you had at the bottom of every profile message boards
and I would go to the ones of like Sean Hayes
and I'd be like, guys, do we think Sean Hayes is really gay?
Like I would like start up these conversations.
Oh my God, you were a little troll.
I was a little troll.
I was a little, you know, a little reply guy, a little keyboard warrior.
But you loved Miss Rachel.
I loved Miss Rachel so much.
And what a string of hits in this time period.
She really nailed it.
What do you have to say about Rachel?
What do I have to say about Rachel?
She has that iconic, just intangible quality.
Yes.
And I mean, during this time,
it was, when you talk about great comedic performances,
you can't really do much better
than Regina George in Mean Girls.
She also fully carried Red eye the whole time like and it was a really kind of it got me in
the movie theater for a movie like that which i never would go to like a thriller like that yes
awesome wedding crashers she's so winning and like you're so rooting for them to get together
because she's incredible and then also the notebook is, you know, pulpy.
Yeah.
But she is giving you romantic drama lead.
Thank you.
And okay.
Wedding Crashers, like so charming.
And like, yeah, her and Owen Wilson, it's like, I'm on you.
Like white on rice.
Like, oh my God.
Like, I'm like, that's hot.
I want like, this is pulling me in.
The notebook, I didn't know this, but during filming,
her and Ryan Gosling hated each other.
Couldn't stand each other.
And then they started dating when the movie came out.
Yeah, but he tried to get her replaced, I think.
He was like, it's either her or me.
And they were like, no.
Rachel McAdams,
and of course the famous moment in The Family Stone.
I don't care what you think.
Oh, of course you do small work
small work and it's so shocking to me
that her Oscar nomination is for Spotlight
a movie where she doesn't do much
she listens well
she listens to Michael Cero Creighton
but you said something to me
recently where you were like
her performance as Regina George
did influence
female behavior in our generation.
It did.
It specifically influenced what girls thought was dominant social behavior.
Her, literally her vocal delivery, her inflections, her state of being the way she carried herself all trickled down to
actual girls
trying on the sort of
visage of mean girl
in a way that like
I don't know I didn't go to school in the 80s or the 90s but it's like
that didn't really happen after Heathers came out
you know it's like Regina
George is like no it's that thing
it's like a blessing and a curse because you have people
like that who are so good
that you want to be like them
and when they're playing someone mean
it's like careful that's the thing
it's like I mean that's literally kind of
what the movie is about it's about idol worship
amongst peers or amongst people
that are like attainable to be around
and become and so
what you'll do to become
that and I think it weirdly played it played out
yes um yes for people that were too young to understand what was going on that's the impact
of rachel i mean she's incredible incredible um all right number 33 we have lemonade by beyonce
remember when we didn't know what this was gonna be that it was just her in the in the dreads and
like we had just like the album art just the
album art was her in a six inch like setup yeah and the world the word lemonade it was actually
it was um don't hurt yourself uh don't hurt yourself yeah it was uh yeah and so she was
just had the title lemonade and it was like is it like a purple range real film like is it a
collection of music videos is it an album is it what is it is it going to be short
long and it ends up being
you know
like long form music
video art piece
and it was
poetry and like
like a tribute to like Yoruba
tribal motifs
like it was and like
we're recording this on the Eve,
not on the Eve.
Black is King is about to come out.
Her next visual album inspired by her time working on the Lion King.
Like,
you know,
lemonade is huge culture.
2016.
Huge culture.
And like really just,
I would say in many ways,
our response to the times as well.
And as well as being a personal reflection.
Yes.
And almost like a personal explanation.
Oh, yeah.
And a way to sort of
cinematically tell her story,
I put it in quotes,
because you never really know what's true.
But the beautiful thing about Lemonade is
it did serve as
an explanation as to why she was staying
with Jay-Z. But in a way
she fully closed herself off at that point
in terms of not doing any press.
And she kept it private
while also publicly
controlling what the public
saw. I mean, the narrative around the marriage.
And remaining queen.
Incredible. Incredible. Okay, so number 32 we have disney's fairytale weddings in real life and also the
disney plus show what what has happened this week so this week i got into la and you know
we were sitting around and we were thinking of something to watch and then we put on disney plus went to the show disney's
fairytale weddings season one was on freeform season two is on disney plus and i can't even
really put this into words matt can you help like what is so special about this show it's camp yes
it's stock footage of disney locations yes it's character driven yes it's stock footage of Disney locations. Yes. It's character driven.
Yes.
It's really about the characters who appear on the show and why they want to get married.
And you are laughing at them in the beginning,
but then by the end you are crying with them because you are just so moved
and it's purity.
It's pure.
And it's truly also budget.
It's budget.
It's a budget.
It's budget. It's budget. It's purity. It's good intentions
meets commercial
masturbation
in a way that is just like,
I think it's funny
because it's so manipulative,
but I respect that about it.
But you still enjoy it
in spite of that.
And look,
like,
you know,
it's these people
who are getting married
in the Disney parks
or on a Disney cruise
or any Disney property
at like six in the morning or two in the morning
when the parks are closed so that no one else is around.
Because the parks used to be open every single day of the week,
at many hours of the day.
But just to see these people go on this journey,
I've never seen anything like it.
I've never seen anything like it.
And it beat out Lemonade by Beyonce. And it beat out Lemonade by Beyonce.
And it beat out Lemonade by Beyonce by one spot.
Apologies to her. But you know who didn't make
the list at all? Adele. Adele.
Number 31.
Wendy Williams fainting.
Huge. When she was dressed as the
Statue of Liberty and took that tumble,
I think we all
had to ask, what's going on?
And she was fine. She was fine. And Wendy's had a lot of moments. What's going on? And she was fine.
She was fine.
And Wendy's had a lot of moments.
Let's just get that out of the way.
I mean, let's just say she said more problematic
and done more problematic things than good.
Yes.
But we love her.
We love her.
And we respect her.
And we thank her for her recent apologies
about when she said that guys should stop, quote,
dressing up as us
and we just in her in that very apology she iconically misused the term bon vivant she
thought you know i don't know what it means i don't know french but when i hear the words
bon vivant i think um i think you know do whatever you want i forget what it was but she fully
makes up a definition for Bon Voyage.
Well, I don't believe that Wendy Williams does even a second of research before she gets on stage.
And I think that's actually how I want it to stay.
I don't want Wendy Williams to change.
I want it to remain her having a 20% understanding
of all the things that she talks about.
I think that's actually better
because it's more reflective of how people actually talk.
That's true.
And I am actually behind what I'm saying there.
Thank you.
Number 30.
Why did you do that?
Why did you do that, do that, do that, do that, do that to me?
You said in the car the other day.
Gaga's never gone harder on a song.
Never gone harder.
I mean, this sprang from the notion that I put forward,
which is that Gaga never goes, never pulls back.
She's never subtle on her songs.
But she's never like gone full maximalist as she has on Why Did You Do That?
Never.
I don't think we've ever seen a second verse
ripped into with such passion as,
Cause ever since I've been on my knees.
And then that ends in the iconic,
Why did you do that
to me!
I mean,
it's just,
it's so unhinged
and was such an
effective part of the movie
because you got in a second
what kind of pop star
she had become.
Later on,
Diane Warren,
the writer of the show,
would say actually
it wasn't supposed to be a joke,
it was supposed to be
a real good pop song
and here's the thing,
she's so wrong
and so right at the same time
which makes it a major success for me.
Thank you.
And her iconic orange hair.
Why did you do that
is a Rorschach test of pop music.
And I mean,
we got Alec Baldwin saying,
ladies and gentlemen,
Allie.
And you had Jenna Rossitano,
stage manager at SNL,
going,
Alec in five,
four,
three.
I mean,
it was a moment.
And you're a family.
My family. My family. The next is number 29. Grey's, it was a moment. And you're a family. My family.
My family.
The next is number 29.
Grey's Anatomy Season 2 Finale.
The amount of things that were happening
in the Grey's Anatomy Season 2 Finale
just made you appreciate
what had been done all season long.
And the way that it closed some loops and stories,
left others open.
You had Sandra Oh running to Preston Burke's hand
and just doing a ballet, the ballerina pose
and just like staying there.
Meanwhile, we have the death of-
Denny DeCat.
Denny had just happened
and Izzy making the realization
that she needs to quit being a surgeon
and leaving the cut right to-
Well, I guess that puts an end to the evening.
Yep, they leave and then
the iconic moment with Meredith
Gray looking at
Dr. Derek Shepard and the veterinarian
played by Chris O'Donnell. Finn Dandridge.
Finn Dandridge wow and they
Finn Dandridge and they both say
Meredith as if they want
the hair to come with them and she just
iconically looks up to this guy
to those final notes of chasing cars by snow patrol.
And that was the moment that I knew that culture was for me.
That was the moment that I knew culture was for me.
I remember texting all my friends
and I, or calling them and I,
and that was back in the day of minutes
to be like, did you watch Grey's Anatomy?
Yeah.
And God, I mean, it doesn't get more 2006 than that.
Snow Patrol.
I have to say,
that was a moment in time,
and it's at 29.
It could very easily be higher.
This is when it's starting to get tough.
Yes.
This is when it starts to get tough,
and we are almost two hours in,
and I'm realizing now
we're gonna have to do
a third episode of this.
No.
That's just the way
it's gonna have to be,
and I'm sorry to our producers.
You're going to have to text me because
we're not going to... Literally, it's
about to be a two-hour episode. We can blast through.
No, we can't.
Okay. All right.
Number 28.
Rain On Me.
Rain On Me was a moment
in culture that just happened.
But you can't... here's what I think.
It's R, enough is enough, no more tears.
Yes.
It's, yes, you're so right.
That's all I have to say.
I mean, Rain On Me, when we have Rain On Me, Tsunami,
in the same song as Ariana Grande's transition up in the end of the bridge.
Rain On Me!
There is so much going on here.
I'd rather we drive, but at least I'm alive.
Rain on me.
Rain on me.
Water like misery.
It's coming down on me.
A moment in culture.
The duo that is Ariana and Gaga.
Can I just say, I feel like we're doing great
and I feel like we can just blast through.
There is no way.
What do you mean? There is no way and you're wasting time here we're gonna get to 25 and then we're gonna stop
oh my god number 27 pumpkin spitting on new york go ahead talk about this this has been a
this has been like the feud all season long and flavor of love. Season one, pumpkin in New York,
just hating each other.
New York,
waving a knife and pumpkin's face in the kitchen every day,
calling pumpkin ugly,
you know,
all this stuff.
Pumpkin gets eliminated and New York is just tearing into her.
She's doing her goodbye hugs.
Um,
and then she's, and then pumpkin's hugging hoops the eventual winner of
flavor of love season one hoops is telling her not to listen not to engage with new york new
york is over there screaming at pumpkin telling her how ugly she is and of course it all escalates
when pumpkin says actually i could slap the shit out of you and the iconic timbre on New York saying
DO IT! SLAP ME BITCH!
and then the loogie that gets
hogged and lands
right on New York's chin
and the
the propelling
that New York does
towards Pumpkin
you see her soul sort of
and her body goes with it.
It's just...
You motherfucking whore!
Do you see that bitch
fucking spit in my motherfucking face?
Bitch, I will take you out!
What a moment.
It was truly...
It started something.
It started a conversation
amongst reality show villains
past and present and future
and it said this is the bar come see me up here come see me up here because you weren't even sure
who was the villain in that situation no but we know it was new york we know you know you love
new york i had not heard of new york until the tiffany pollard i had not heard of tiffany
pollard until the spit happened everyone at school was talking about was like, I have to go to someone's house who has
cable, who has VH1, and I have to watch this.
To the point where I would go on business
trips with my dad just so I could stay in the hotel room
and watch marathons
of Flavor of Love. Oh my god.
That is deep. I was like,
I was obsessed with New York.
This is huge. I mean, I get it.
Well, because I'm taking my time talking about New York
because I guess we're doing a third episode. No, we are. What do you have to say about New York? What do I say about New York? I mean, I get it. Well, because I'm taking my time talking about New York because I guess we're doing a third episode.
No, we are.
What do you have to say about New York?
What do I say about New York?
I mean, an original?
Yes.
Someone that I think was probably destined
to become famous and a star and got there.
Yes.
And I think that ultimately with New York,
what you have is someone who usurped even flavor.
Flavor. And she, I think, is Omarosa-esque in this fashion what you have is someone who usurped even flavor, flavor,
flavor.
And she,
I think is Omarosa esque in this fashion,
because I believe that by the time Omarosa is dead,
she'll be more famous and villainous than Donald Trump.
I think so too.
I have,
I want to,
that's an amazing,
amazing prediction.
I want to say really quickly that New York,
I mean,
all the flavor of love seasons one and two filled with transphobic,
you know,
insults.
You look like a man,
you look like a man.
Even New York at some points
was saying this to people
pumpkin
not excluded
but the season two
reunion of Flavor of Love
New York shows up
you had Boots
Buck Wild
and Delicious
all going crazy
as soon as they see
New York at the reunion
and then Boots
especially being like
screaming at New York you look like a then Boots especially being like screaming at
New York you look like a drag queen you look like
a drag queen and instead of being
offended New York goes yes and it's
fabulous embraces
it yes and it's fabulous
does not like see it as an
queer icon queer icon was like yes and
it's fabulous queer icon
erect a statue of New York in front
of Stonewall. Thank you.
And now for the last one for this episode, number 26.
Alyssa Edwards versus Tatiana Lip Sync.
Shut up and drive.
To shut up and drive and then to know that they both won the lip sync at the end after truly deserving to. The look on Tatiana's face when she realizes she won.
The look on Alyssa Edwards' face when they realize they both won. The look on Fifi's face. The look on Fiana's face when she realizes she won. The look on Alyssa Edwards' face when they realized they both won.
The look on Fifi's face.
The look on Fifi's face.
The face crack.
Yes.
Honestly, this was a moment in time.
It was two queens who were going for it out of the joy of being drag queens.
They both had nothing to lose.
Flips, kicks, twirls, hair.
There was so much good hair in that performance.
Such great hair.
I think one of the best lip
syncs of all time because you had
Tatiana in the white getup and Alyssa in like the
black version and they had similar hair
visual opposites visual opposites and then they
both got brought
back into the competition it was so satisfying
and to have Fifi leave to have them both
vote for Fifi unbelievable
when all stars was all stars
oh my god that is the lip sync
to show someone if you want to show someone
how a lip sync is turned on drag race
that is the one to do
okay so that is part two
of three of spectacular
top 200 moments
in culture history
parentheses our 200th episode
part two there will be a part
three which was a twist that was even revealed to us during the episode.
And how are you feeling about it?
I think we're going to have a conversation with,
um,
head of content,
Hans,
executive producer,
Anna,
engineer,
Doug about scheduling.
You know,
I did not anticipate a third part to this.
I mean,
I didn't think,
I thought we'd get all this done in one episode.
Do you remember the days?
I remember the days.
Remember the days of us thinking
we could fly through this in one episode,
but we're just too chatterboxian?
Oh my God.
By the time this is over,
it will be an iconic feat.
And now I think that when we have the 25
in their own episode,
we can spend more time on each thing.
And it's about the readers.
It's about the readers.
So 25 divided by 120.
Let's say that's a two hour episode.
That is, okay, like,
I can't do the math right now,
but let's just,
this is what has not changed.
Number one is number one. Number one is still number one.
It's still number one for a reason.
And we're going to look at the list
and we're going to see
if everything is in its right place.
Yes.
Because actually,
it's actually a kind of iconic
what can happen.
Things can be,
nothing can be taken from 25 to 100,
but things from the top 25 can change
and can be even taken out and new things added in yeah and you'd be surprised how much you forget
and that's actually culture it's rule of culture number six you'd be surprised how much you forget
i can't wait i'm i'm honestly very happy you made this call i should never doubt your judgment
this is going to be huge and And before the clock strikes two hours,
we're going to finish out with a song
and we're going to see you tomorrow.
And that song is...
I get you where you want to go
if you know what I mean.
Got a ride that's smoother than a limousine.
Got my head on the ground,
got my head on the line.
If you're coming before the middle, I'm in trouble tonight.
Go from zero to 16,
3.5. Baby, you
got the keys.
Shut up and drive, drive,
drive, drive.
Shut up and drive, drive, drive,
drive. See you tomorrow. I don't know.
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