Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - StraightioLab: "Awkwardness and Randomness" (with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang)

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

Matt & Bowen guest on the latest episode of StraightioLab, the latest podcast to join the Big Money Players Network. In the first official episode of season three, George and Sam gab wistfully about missing each other’s company, Munchausen as an artistic practice, and The Chromatica Ball. Then, they are joined by network sisters Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang to address the two pillars of straight comedy: awkwardness and randomness. Is being awkward and random a response to fearing the unknown? Can you be one without the other? Was the movie Juno a slay? Plus: Everyone gets in touch with their feelings — for the last time EVER. Welcome back to the lab! Subscribe to StraightioLab on the Big Money Players Network: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/straightiolab/id1503599999 https://open.spotify.com/show/4JwmzfCAD22229A7GJ81j1 https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-straightiolab-97815943/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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as far as street culture goes, and we hope you enjoy this episode. Okay, bye. Welcome to Stradio Lab, an intellectual podcast about straight culture and also a stupid podcast about nothing. Don't say that. It's just true. I don't want to lie to our listeners. I'm George Severus. And I'm Sam Taggart. And this is Stradio Lab. Podcast starts now. Okay, podcast starts now. What's up, everybody, and welcome to Stradio Lab. Back from the grave, you thought we were dead,

but actually we were training, and we're stronger than ever. And I just want to say, the old Stradio Lab can't come to the phone right now. Why? Because she doesn't get out of bed for under $3 million. Wow. Say that. And I just want to say for the listeners at home, this podcast has always been about a

few things. It's been about straight culture, sort of. It's been about making a podcast entirely. It's been about straight culture, sort of. It's been about making a podcast entirely. It's been about transparency. And in the spirit of transparency, I want to say that we are coming off of doing a full intro that completely messed up due to technical difficulties. So we are sort of emotionally raw.

We are on edge in a way that... I would say I'm physically bleeding in multiple parts of my body. I'm breaking out in hives i'm bleeding but it's uh what's it called when it's psychological um not bleeding munchausen i'm bleeding but it's munchausen i'm bleeding but psychosomatic is the word i was looking for i am i am actually i'm actually bleeding and my limbs are falling but it's all in my head yeah george is actually hosting a am actually bleeding and my limbs are falling, but it's all in my head. Yeah, George is actually hosting a collaboration between Bleeding

and Munchausen. Finally, the two girls teamed up inside of George's body. Collab of the season. And that's why I'm excited to partner. I'm excited to partner with Munchausen for the launch of the collab between psychosomatic limb falling and podcasting.

So I have to say, George, when you were speaking a moment ago, it actually did start to cut out and the fear that I could feel from our guests today and myself included, well, it was there. Here's what I'll say. From now on,

technical difficulties are not a big deal. If something happens and let's say I have to switch my Wi-Fi again Everyone's gonna be chill about it. Okay. I think that's a great rule Then why does everyone look frightened? I'm perplexed because I feel like we were nothing but chill when you were figuring it out So I was I was on the verge of having a mental breakdown the entire time I've been relaxed this whole time until now. Now I'm pissed off.

Okay, now I'm pissed. Now I'm pissed. Sam, you were saying, you know, on one level, it's a podcast about straight culture. On another level, it's about radical honesty. And then on a yet third level, it's kind of a horseshoe theory Where the radical honesty becomes almost toxic dishonesty I just want to say the question for this season Season three which is starting today The first season sponsored by Munchausen

Is where do we go from here Up Exactly To the tippy top baby I'm talking primetime NBC podcasting I'm almost like should we just bring in the guests and and i i feel like there's this pressure to reintroduce to relaunch and in fact our sponsor munchausen has done all that for us and i think it's time to just dive right in wait i want to say before we dive right in you should that we That we don't need this pressure. We don't.

I don't feel pressure because you know what? A season three of a podcast, what does that mean? Let's start there. Does it mean anything? Well, that's a slippery slope if I've ever heard one. I want to say one thing before we start. Okay. I have missed you.

Seeing you on my screen, being with you every week it is the greatest honor of my life to have a professional relationship and a collaborative relationship with you and it is an honor to be back this time while bleeding george who you are my that's the munchausen's talking honestly my my makeup is running bowen's munchausen is acting up sorry all of us are sponsored by munchausen each of us have munchausen in different ways we actually each have munchausen by proxy to someone we have chosen i'm poisoning sam sam is poisoning Bowen. Bowen is poisoning Matt. Wow. Every goddamn day.

To no avail. Phantom threat over here. Not for lack of trying. Tea. Tea. Okay, George. It's a pleasure to be hosting a podcast with you again. I've been lost this summer without you.

And our personal and professional relationship is one of the strongest in my life. And I just want to say so often this summer, I feel like if I do not talk to you, I will, in fact, collapse. And I maybe will text you kind of in the middle of the day something that's a small thing. Maybe I'll send you something I found funny or maybe I'll say like, oh, lol to something. And then sometimes you rightly will respond appropriately. You'll be like, oh, haha. And then I will be crushed because, in fact, I was trying to start a two hour long conversation. And I realize, in fact, what I'm missing is a recorded podcast.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a great texter to be honest yeah yeah yeah it's not i don't feel like engaging i just sort of leave it yeah it's not a good quality i don't take pride in it but it's just a fact matt and bowen how has your professional relationship strained your friendship? Immensely. Yeah, a lot. I mean, and I'll tell you something, it got really hard once we signed our big deal with iHeart. Can I say when we signed our big deal with iHeart,

I don't think we really made too much of it on the mic. So I feel like this is your first mistake. Even talking about it. And you know what I feel is almost like Lindsay Lohan saying, I could hear everyone being annoyed with me but I couldn't stop when she's talking about Regina all the time. And to me

Regina is my heart. Well, Katie Heron said that. Lindsay Lohan didn't say that No it was improvised It was improvised Dame Tina Fey wrote those words Through Katie Heron

And don't you forget it No it was a kind of Christopher Guest type thing Tina Fey has talked about this That entire movie was improvised Wait she's never said that George she has never said that When you watched The Parent Trap, did you think Lindsay Lohan actually had a twin?

A lot of people thought this. This is a really important question. It says a lot about you. I mean, she did, didn't she? Talk about a professional relationship strain. Okay. Let me tell you something. Yeah. She got the big film and suddenly her twin was dead. Talk about a relationship strained Lindsay L. Let me tell you something. Yeah. She got the big film and suddenly her twin was dead.

Talk about a relationship strained Lindsay Lohan with herself. Oh my God. God damn it. I have nothing to add. Well, let's bring in our guests, shall we? Okay.

This has been such awkward humor. Oh no. No. Awkward humor. No. Random. It's random. Don't stop it. You're tipping it. You're tipping it. Don't tipkward humor. No. Random. It's random.

Don't tip it. You're tipping it. You're tipping it. Don't tip it. I'm tipping it. I'm getting excited. Can we be brought in? I think it's time to bring in our guests.

And why do you feel that it's time? Please give a warm welcome to style superstar Carson Kressley. And the always hilarious Michelle Visage. Yes. Hi. Boys. Are we?

Who do you think? Do you think that Carson is... I was just thinking, are we as gay as Carson? Yeah. Yeah. Yes, but for our time. The standards are different.

Yeah. I think you're right. We are to Carson. What Carson Yeah. Yes. Yes, but for our time. The standards are different. Yeah. I think you're right. We are to Carson. What Carson was in his time, we are now. Parentheses derogatory. Yeah, parenthesis derogatory and a big joke. And a big joke. Well, I do think in 15 years or whatever, there will be new gay podcasters on

the scene and they'll be like, and welcome to the stage. The hilarious Matt the scene and they'll be like and welcome to the stage like the hilarious Matt Rogers and it'll be like inherently like they won't have said anything mean but it'll be like that's meant to be mean and it's like hey you're making fun of me right it's like when they call him a style superstar

that's like meant as a hurtful insult yeah anyone watching anyone watching and Anyone watching. This is derogatory. Anyone watching. And he's wearing like.

No. It's an insult. It's a Liberace cape. Style superstar. And he's in like. Style superstar. Literally he's crying. He's like.

Plastic bag with glitter on it. I'm doing my best. Stop. And the hilarious. And the hilarious. Ross Matthews. And the hilarious. Air quotes.

Ross Matthews. But yeah., air quotes, Ross Matthews. But yeah, I do think, George, you're right. I do think it's time to bring in our guests. Should we bring them in? I mean, that's the question on everybody's lips. All of America wants to know, should we bring them in? You know, I think there's almost, I am sensing something very productive about the tension of they are half in, out yeah and there's a queer there's a queerness to that yeah it's sort of well it's it's definitely like anti sort of border it's sort of saying like it is literally what's up with that

that is what is happening right now yeah and it's what's crazy is like even internally like i even though they're not speaking on it um because they haven't been invited to. I feel that our guests, like when we say, should we bring in our guests? They assume the position of guests who have not been brought in. But then when we fake bring them in, they assume the position of guests that haven't brought in. And it's sort of like they need to examine why they're like believing these borders. You know, it is it's work they have to do themselves and it's work we can't do for them. So it's very much like, you know, the dog is used to the cage.

You open the cage. The dog still wants to be in the cage. Oh, my God. Sorry. And so it's not, you know, even now I'm like, I'm's not you know even now i'm like i'm like you know they could actually speak up right now but they're they they are not even though they have already spoken in the past they they now suddenly are back in the not having been brought in stage that's because we have really good boundaries. So please welcome.

Without further ado. From the hit film Fire Island, Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers. Hey, chicas. Hey, chicas. Hey, chicas. You live and love you to loca girls. How the hell is it going? You guys really are live and love you to loca today.

Oh, a little bit. We're not above it. We are. above it we are and it's getting loca and loca as we go oh my god mas loca mas y mas mat you just woke up tell us about that well as you all know we attended the lady gaga concert last night at the metlife stadium in east rutherford new jersey and i as a result of staying up late after the concert and even getting into it with somebody oh oh i woke up a little bit late today yeah it's true like sexually or violently can you tell us? Honey, well, I got into it sexually with someone and it was decidedly not violent. Huge. Is this someone we know? No, it was a bar talker. Oh, that's so fun.

Oh my God. Wow. I feel like this is 2013. Matt, look at me. Congrats. I was going to say that too. Yeah, congrats. It's very 2013. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought Sam was going to agree with that. It was very 2013. No, I agree. It's 2013. It's very, congrats. It's very 2013. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought Sam was going to agree with that. It was very 2013. No, I agree.

It's 2013. It's very HBO's girls. It's very 2013. It's HBO's girls. I think there's a world where he can both agree that it's very 2013 and say congrats. For a bartender to be a supporting character is very 2013. Yes. May have found my Steve.

May have found my Steve. Yes. And in some ways it's... But he told me he is partnered. He is partnered. Okay. Okay. Well. Well, that my Steve. Yes. And in some ways it's. But he told me he told me he is partnered. He is. OK. OK. Well, well, that could work.

Yeah. I mean, this is. Yeah. I mean, in the reboot, Steve is Polly. Actually, he's dying. Hold on. Hold on. Writing down that idea for a romcom.

Can it work with someone who is partnered? Oh, my God. That's the title. Partnered. Oh, my God. Can it work? Wait. Uncoupled. god work wait uncoupled oh write that down uncoupled oh smart smart starring style superstar carson kressley and the hilarious ross mappies oh imagine a imagine a rom-com with them that would be kind

that would be fun that would be really fun. Playing themselves. Wait, not to be like the most simple-minded sort of A to B, you know, unimaginative person on the globe. Right. But should we just sort of talk about, should we sort of get into the fact that we were at Chromatica last night? Yes. And maybe not just. I think we have to.

And we have to. Chromatica is a huge album for this podcast because it came. I mean, I would say the entire release cycle, if you can call it that, of that album was, you know, was tracked painstakingly by the pod. I remember we had Amy Zimmer on to talk about Lady Gaga as a concept when Stupid Love came out. And she said something I think is very wise, which is the promise of Lady Gaga is like, if Lady Gaga fails, then the 2010s were for nothing. Wow. It's like the reason why we have faith in Lady Gaga is because we have to believe there was some point to the 2010s. It's sunken cost fallacy.

It's like when you go, you know, I've spent too much time on this thing already, and if I quit, then that would have been a waste of my time. At that point, if you quit, it's like been a waste of my time at that point if you quit it's like well what was the point of what was the point of obama what was the point of marriage equality what was the point of hbo's girls yeah it's a slippery slope that is so true i think that last night lady gaga proved that the 2010s i completely agree that's what i felt that's what I think ultimately happened last night was she, in singing her songs, made us all dance and remember.

And when I was leaving the concert last night, I thought back to all the times when I first heard those amazing songs. And I thought this was a time capsule. It was a journey, both in the literal and figurative sense. It was an emotional journey as well as a journey to another planet. And not just a capsule, but a capstone. Thank you. As in it was the conclusion of the 2010s. Now we can finally move on.

Now the 2020s can begin. Can truly begin. I was going to say. Decade begins now. Decade begins now. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's like how it took Lady Gaga three songs last night to say act one. And let's talk about that.

And let's talk about nonlinear storytelling. Let's talk about Fleabag. Yes. Is Fleabag nonlinear? I mean, there's flashbacks non-linear storytelling. Let's talk about Fleabag. Yes. Is Fleabag non-linear? I mean, there's flashbacks in the first season. How dare you? I can't believe you're fact-checking my co-host. I cannot believe this is happening right now.

Fleabag is pretty linear. Believe this. Okay, if George says it's on linear, it's on... This is not our house. This is not our house. If he says it's on linear, it's on linear. Do you think, Bowen, that the concert was yellow jackets or fleabag i think i think it was succession i think it was purely linear yeah really linear because

she gave us prologue acts one through four and finale which is classically which is a classic structure that is you're right it is a classic structure and it is succession finale um finale my final act finale did she even call the first three songs no no she didn't just thrust we made that she knew what she was doing it it made it better that then without expecting it you saw the words act one yeah when actually the way i felt when i saw the words act one i i immediately was like oh so this i thought this was a concert and actually it's a story and that really i screamed i said i didn't know i was seeing a film today i thought i was seeing a concert what do we think the story was okay okay that's a really good okay that's great that's great so it starts when she's in a thing a sort

of a cocoon and it she's a bad romance bad romance so she's okay i think she's kidnapped in berlin okay yeah she's in the basement at bergheim she's in the basement i just want to say to be clear i know the answer i know what the story is. So I'm just listening to see if you guys get it. I want to hear Sam do it. Yeah. No, I'm saying I'm listening, but I do know. So at the end, I will confirm if you're right. You're going to fact check.

I just want to say the story is whatever the viewer interprets it as. Sam, keep going. No, shh. Okay, so she's kidnapped, and she's in the basement of Bergheim. And they're playing her songs upstairs, which is crazy because she knows all the words to them. So she's sort of singing along and she's like, and so, so then that's the prologue is like, we're starting here. And then it's sort of her journey out of Bergheim.

So it's act two. We're at act one. Oh, right. So that's the prologue. It's like so it's act two. Act, we're at, we're at act one. Oh, right. So that's the prologue. It's like,

let's start there. You think act one is the prologue? No, no, no. Sam needs to keep going cause he's dead on right. Okay. Okay.

So that's the prologue. And then the act one. Um, so that was sort of, um, Alice. My name isn't Alice. Okay.

So that was about identity. Okay so that was about identity That was about identity So she was clearly going undercover To get out of Berghain She was like my name isn't Alice Oh yeah But it's also not Stephanie Nor is it Gaga

Oh my god She has Munchausen's for names Okay so she's Going undercover as not Alice To leave Berghain So far so good This is the story 10 out of 10

So then it gets to act 2 And that's sort of when we get to Chromatica 2 into 9-1-1 So that actually she had escaped but she had ptsd for being locked in the basement for too long so then she had to pop a 9-1-1 yeah because of yeah and i'm so sorry to interrupt but exactly i was gonna say it goes from identity to trauma which is such a classic narrative it's that order, too. But see, she's calling 911 because

she lives in a country where dialing 911 doesn't summon the police. It summons social workers. And she goes... And she wants help with her mental health. It's not copaganda. People are

saying 911 is copaganda, and I just want to say no, it's not. It's not copaganda. People are saying 9-1-1 is copaganda and I just want to say no, it's not. It's social workaganda. It's social workaganda, which is what we need now more than ever. Absolutely. We really need more social workers to stand up so that we can do propaganda for them. In the world of Chromatica, 9-1-1

is for the nationalized mental health care line. It's not for the cops. Yes. So then after that, she realizes that she needs to put on a show because she realizes that she needs art to sort of be her therapy because the social workers weren't supported enough economically

to give her the support that she needed. So that's when she gets to the piano and sort of sings some songs because she's like, maybe this will help. Does it? Correct. That is the story. Why is the piano made of trees?

Why is the piano like a gnarled wood? Oh, because she made it herself. She made it herself. So you think she made it herself not because it's a climate change metaphor. No. She doesn't really care about that.

She doesn't care about that. Lady Gaga does not care about the planet. That's why she's leaving it. That's why she abandoned it. In that way, it's very Taylor Swift getting on her private jet because she's like, oh, there's climate change. I got to go.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to be stuck here. Yeah. She's like, I have my own demons to fight. Lady Gaga was actually quoted as saying, we have to get off this planet yesterday. So then she sang the songs on the piano and then it gets to... Finale.

The finale. Finale, yeah. Okay, so the finale, I sort of read that as her learning that it's not about social workers helping you. It's not about art helping you. It's about commercial success helping you. That's not about art helping you. It's about commercial success helping you. That's the only way you can fill the emotional hole caused by being tied up in the basement at Berkheim.

Which is why she got Ariana Grande on the track. She said, how do I get a hit? She said, put her on the damn track. I'm cashing in, baby. That was her I heart deal moment. That was when Lady Gaga sold out yeah yeah but that is actually a very powerful narrative that you have just uh well and then obviously the the cherry on top being ending with hold my hand and sort of being like this song you know couldn't be further from berkheim we are gone that. That is in the past. Well, as Pranj said,

it's the natural endpoint of commercialization. It's like she's singing this song that sounds personal and it is for a movie that is literal military propaganda. Yeah. So it's like, it's the cherry on top. She's like, okay, and now here's my new work inspired by the journey I just took that made me realize the only way out of identity and trauma

is through commercial enterprise. And that's right. It's called Hold My Hand. And it is for Top Gun Maverick. And guess what? And guess what? You're going to gag for it. And boy, did we.

I did gag for it, actually. I really did. I actually love and have stand hold my hand for months now and you're a trailblazer and me a full day i was shocked at how much she sold it i mean to take that song she sold it i was like there's no way she can make me like this song and there i was what many are calling a seaside from born this way that she filed through the drawers i was like what do i have for Top Gun Maverick? I have this one.

Maybe this. Maybe I'll just try it. I'll give this one a whirl again. And then she ended her Chromatica ball with the song. A tour two and a half years in the making. A tour that she had all the time in the world to perfect. And this is what we got. It was a wonderful show. But you have to imagine you have

to imagine that the entire time she knew that she actually it wasn't even about public health her canceling the tour it was like i don't have the finale song and then once hold once hold my hand became such a global hit she was like we can go out on the road. I know how I'm going to end the show. I have my Beyonce's halo. I have my torch song that will end all my concerts going forward. And that is what the concert was about. The journey to find Hold My Hand. Hold My Hand was the capstone. That's right.

The capstone to the capstone. Period. Hold My Hand is, again, it's like it is the end of her work and it is the end of the work of the 2010s. I would say it is a loss of innocence. It's like, this is the only. There's no, it is post postmodernism. Well, and that's why it's such a Gen Z anthem. Exactly.

When she saw Jennifer Connelly get off that boat and her hair was still perfect, she said, I'm so inspired. I'm inspired by the love I saw between Tom Cruise and Jennifer Connelly. I'm no longer innocent, she said. No, I'm no longer innocent. I've changed. I can start my new decade now, but only after I record this song that I've had for a while. She called up Lockheed Martin and said, boy, after I record this song that I've had for a while. She called the block. He'd Martin and said,

boy, have I got a track for you boys? Yeah. You're about to cash some big checks. Cause missiles are going to be on the menu again. I'm not, I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding.

I cannot wait for this to be over so I can listen to Matt. Please don't say you can't wait for our podcast recording to be over. That's really hurtful. That's like really hurtful. Can't wait. We're network sisters now. I cannot wait. I'm edging.

Not just that you can't wait for it to be over, so that you can listen to Hold My Hand. Hold My Hand. 100%. One of the greatest songs. The song that started this decade, if I'm to be concerned. Well, that we can all agree on. This fall on Bravo.

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Listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, wait. I want to say, everyone go around. I'm going to be my mom right now. Everyone go around and say their favorite moment from the concert. Go. I loved... But who first?

I'll go first. I loved... For a dancing moment, I loved Replay. Yes. Replay was really good But Bowen You loved another song I loved a couple other songs I thought it was really special

That we all got to Listen to Shallow together live Agreed Absolutely And I loved I woke up yesterday morning The day of the concert And I decided

The first thought I had was I'm going to like Hold My Hand. I did not care for that song before. I woke up yesterday and chose peace and love for Hold My Hand. The power of positive thinking. And I was like, I'm going to be... I'm surprised you didn't

say Enigma. Enigma's whatever. Oh, who was I with that was like standing Enigma? Well, I do stand Enigma, but it wasn't me last night. But I said, I said, I'm going to be off book by this, but by the concert. I learned every single word. And it was amazing. It was an amazing song.

That's it. Okay, that's me. All right. Matt. Okay, Matt. Well, I have to say, I enjoyed every part of the concert, and I've already expressed that my favorite part

was Hold My Hand. But if I had to sort of just, you know, pick another favorite, I would say that I absolutely, and I actually got some flack from our readers, which is what we call the fans of our podcast, for not standing replay the way everyone else was.

And replay was fabulous last night. It was so fabulous. That being said, I think that while Shallow was incredible, I have to say, Always Remember Us This Way was giving. Really? I completely agree. I loved Always Remember Us This Way. Loved it. Loved it loved it loved it love everything

she did at the piano and like i also did give get my life to that acoustic thousand doves which the lyrics of which you do not you the the host of this podcast you're not now we don't know but then someone did write in and say that she did she changed the lyrics she changed the lyrics. It was the Sam and George gaslighting edition of the song. She did different lyrics so that we would look stupid because she's mad that we haven't had her on.

I want to say in response to Matt, Always Remember Us This Way. And Stupid Love. With Always Remember Us This Way, I actually when she started the song, it didn't fully hit me what she was singing. And my first thought was, oh, she's covering a classic song. She's doing a cover of a classic song.

That's like the confidence. Who would have thought that it was not even the song from the soundtrack that didn't win the Oscar? Wow. She didn't even do any covers, I guess, right? No, she didn't do any covers. She doesn't usually. No covers, no guest stars, and honestly, no weird mashups or anything. It was very much like one song after the other.

Wait, but have you guys ever heard the story of when Bone and I went to go see the Taylor Swift 1989 world tour, and she famously had many guest stars and the most iconic guest star that she brought out was to walk to walk the runway during style was Uzo Aduba oh yeah and then she came out you got that James Dean

day dream and it was Uzo just like that is so funny Uzo Aduba who I complimented at an Emmys party last year. I said, Entreatment was spectacular. You were so good in it. And she did not want to talk to me at all. She was like, thanks.

Let me say this about the Entreatment reboot starring Uzo Aduba. I love it. I think she's one of our great talents. But here's what I'll say. The marketing of that show, if you look at the poster for it she is fully wearing a snatched model look to play the therapist it looks like it and it looks like an ad for like i don't know she's wearing the dolce gabbana beyonce bells with the key on it yes yes yes yes yes yes. She is literally done in every single scene.

She's at home. She walks in. Professionally beat and styled. It's like Trinity the Tuck walks in and she's like, let's get to it, girl. In her own house, though. Trinity's famous line. Let's get to it, girl.

Let's get to it, girl. get to it girl Alright so George what was your Favorite moment And I'm sorry to be Kind of cliche But my favorite moment was when she said If they come for gay marriage In this country you know what will happen You know what will happen

No we don't No one knows You know what will happen you know what will happen no we don't no no one knows that was uh you know what's gonna happen and then my second favorite moment was when she said after talking about how much difficulty we've all seen in the last two years she said but we have seen so much kindness and positivity and no one clapped. People were like, where? It was like literally the opposite is true. 55,000 people. No one clapped. It all went like this. They did the this emoji. I'm doing the side

I confused emoji. Yeah. And that moment was when they found polio in the sewage in New York City. When she said that. When she said kindness, she meant polio. She was like, we have seen so much polio. We've seen so much polio.

And then she came out as patient zero. We've seen so much disease. Every time she spoke to the audience, it made even less sense than the time before. Unconnected thoughts. At no point did she... Pat and I have this joke, kind of an inside joke, in fact,

where we talk about certain people and we're like... Didn't know you two knew each other like that. We'll talk about someone and we'll say, you know, they need to be tagged in the say one single thing that makes sense challenge.

And I would say Gaga needs to be tagged in the say one single thing that makes sense challenge. It's true. It's true. It's true. I, yeah, that stuff was really making me laugh. I wanted almost more of it because what you want from her is kooky kookiness. Kooky, kooky.

Kooky, kooky. Someone did, someone did, like, I have to say against my will, I did chuckle when someone posted a photo of the crowd last night and said there could be 55,000 people in a room. And I was like, that'll never make me laugh. Get old. It's so funny. Also, the other thing that she said was she was like talking about her memories of Jersey and being like in the boardwalk. Come on. I've had my good time.

Remember that one? Who could forget? Who can forget the beach? The commitment to Jersey Rather than just being like Giving it a shout out And then mostly talking about New York The commitment to Jersey

She was like, what about those Sopranos? It was so funny Jersey boys! Jersey boys! I think every Pop star who performs there is told You cannot mention New York City before Jersey

When Matt and I saw Taylor Swift there She like barely talked about New York either All she did was say Wow it's so great to be in Jersey Tonight like never mention New York once except in Welcome to New York I think she did say like, and who is here from New York?

And the entire crowd screamed. And she was like, okay. And then I think she probably did like an hashtag awkward segue into Welcome to New York. You know, and speaking of awkward segues, I think it might be time for

our first segue. Sam haven't done my favorite. Sam has to say his favorite moment of the concert. Which we will do after. Let me finish. Which we will do after Sam says his best moment. Good save. I was like, wait, I'm literally being erased right this second in front on my own podcast. This is so crazy.

Very suspect. I was suspect. Very suspect. Okay. Very suspect. Well, very inconsiderate and thank you i think um honest honestly the top moment for me was it's already been mentioned seeing shallow with everybody was so crazy when she literally goes into the like oh and it was like she's doing it she's doing the thing we all did for like years like this is so

crazy i could not believe it amazing that was like seeing a whale jump in the ocean like i was like i didn't think i would see this in my life like that was like being on the moon like i was like i'm i'm there you're so right sam that's also how i felt when she did the chromatica two to nine one one and that was the other one i was gonna say i was like oh my god i listened to this so many times and now i'm here and it's happening it was it was breathtaking i was moved i felt that way about hold my hand for sure i said oh my god this song that i liked today she's doing it the song that i like today also and to be the most basic rain on me was such

a damn slay I was jumping up and down we were jumping stupid love is a better song I was shocked that she didn't end on stupid love because I'm sorry rain on me has a feature that was like being played from the speakers

like to end on something where you're hearing a recorded featured artist, that seems so anticlimactic to me. I couldn't believe she couldn't pull any special guest to come out and do that, even if it wasn't Ariana. There couldn't be anyone. I agree with that, Matt.

I was like, surely someone's coming. You couldn't fly in like Pooh? He'd love to be around these gay men. She doesn't do this. She's never done this. Not once. Not in the, since the, it's not since the fame ball. She does not pull out special guests because I think she also thinks it's very important for people to associate her sharing the stage with someone else.

And that only, that person only being Tony Bennett for now. You know what I mean? What about Bradley Cooper? Sure. with someone else and that person only being Tony Bennett for now. What about Bradley Cooper? Sure, and Bradley, like after she's in a fucking movie with him, but I'm saying like she didn't bring up Beyonce for Telephone ever. She never brought out like, you know, fucking Florence for Hey Girl. You know, she just doesn't do that.

You guys are not true little monsters. No, no, no. I know you're right. I ultimately was not expecting her to bring out anyone like which is why it would have been the biggest gag of all if she surpassed those expectations of course of course the biggest gag of all would be if there was a guess i believe that gagging is the future learning to gag yourself is the big

learning to gag away that is the greatest gag of all. And if you gag too hard, now you even throw up. Oh, my God.

Dray some water, bitch. And vent. Jesus Christ. Matt. You protect the voice. Matt, protect the voice. Matt, protect the voice. Now should we do our first segment?

Or should we bring in our guests? I don't think I'm ready to bring in our guests yet. Yeah, Carson and Ross have been waiting for 40 minutes. Keep them in limbo. Keep them in limbo. Carson, you're a great hun. Style superstar. Style superstar. And the horror

I thought when you just went that was your Carson impression oh wait guys it's time to be real no should we do it no my phone's over there but one of us can do it I'll do it

I didn't get a notification let me make sure it's a good photo of me too hold on and slay get a notification that it was, oh, I guess it's trying to be real. Okay. Let me make sure it's a good photo of me, too. Hold on. And slay. Wait, don't cut this out in the audio. No, no, no. This is gonna be really good. This is gonna be the little trailer we release on Instagram. Um, um,

okay. And if you get it. Oh, my God. Okay, actually, you know what? Something that has happened literally since we've been on hiatus Be real Quick thoughts one sentence each Go I think it's boring but I like it

It's boring now It quickly became boring But I'll still do it It's like a chore Be boring Oh my god More like Bo-real

Our first segment 40 minutes is called it's called straight shooters and in this segment we gauge your familiar oh this is my favorite segment in podcast we gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture by asking you a series of rapid fire uh questions where you have to choose one thing or another thing, or in fact, sometimes a third thing. And the one rule is you can't ask any follow up questions about how it works. Capisce. Capisce.

Capisce. This is, I'm not even kidding, my literal favorite segment in podcasting history. It's so good. I'm so proud of you. This is a new level. And I just want to say it that means the world coming from you then thank you that means so much because so many people in our podcasting life have told us we'd never be good enough and they said you're a freak and a loser and a nobody and i said well

you just wait because we've got a segment up our sleeves that's gonna rock everyone's world honey if they ain't paying your bills pay them bitches no minds and I just want to say specifically specifically to Matt Rogers and bone yang you know who paved the way for so many of us here at the office I we noticed that what you guys did when you had guests as you ask questions and we thought how can we put a twist on that what if the questions are just words essential that's essential yeah that's essentialism well i'm edging and it's and it's almost it's almost a commentary it's a commentary on the idea of asking questions oh my god you're so right i'm edging okay boan's mad at you you no i'm'm not. Okay. No, no, he's obsessed.

I'm obsessed. Sam, take it away. You keep edging me. Okay, here we go. Boys, Chromatica Ball or Basketball? Chromatica Ball. Marjorie Taylor Greene or Anya Taylor-Joy? Anya Taylor-Joy. Anya Taylor-Joy.

I See Dead People or I've Seen Deadpool 1 and 2? I See Dead People. I see dead people or I've seen Deadpool 1 and 2. I see dead people. So far Matt and I are in total agreement. That's really cool. Bodies, bodies, bodies or location, location, location. Location, location, location. Okay.

It's true. Ignorance is bliss or knowledge is power. Ignorance is bliss or knowledge is power? Ignorance is bliss. Juergen Teller, Miles Teller, or if you want to tell her, tell her yourself. If you want to tell her, tell her yourself. Okay. FX is the bear, Noah Bombbox, the squid and the whale, or C.S. Lewis is the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe? FX is the bear.

C.S. Lewis is the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe. Oh, we have disagreement. I've not yet seen the bear. I apologize. Stacey's mom has got it going on, or our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Stacey's mom has got it going on or our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name Stacy's mom has got it going wow I think that was pretty

good I think you got I want to say 756 doves that's a lot of doves that's a lot of doves not everyone can say that well we have to leave the kind of logic of school That's a lot of dogs. Not everyone can say that. Well, we have to believe the kind of logic of

schoolwork. This isn't, you know, we're not in class. In some cultures, a 700 something can be actually even better than a thousand. Well, because sometimes less is more. Right. That's something Lady Gaga taught me. You think Lady Gaga has ever thought less is more?

Or do you think she thought, no, the piano has to be. Well, you know, I have to wear this bug costume while I sing Shallow. The bug costume. Wait, can we talk about the bug costume while she's saying Shallow? That was really something else. That was an LOL. It was self. It was Dragon Ball Z. I loved it. Yes, it 100 it's not really about

wearing the bug costume it is about wearing the bug mask for shallow and then taking it off and being like and now we're done and being like that was specifically for shallow it wasn't like for this chapter of the concert i actually was dressed as a bug just for shallow. And she took it off so she could get real to always remember us. Exactly. A song because it would, it would be disrespectful to sing. Always remember us this way. Dedicated to Tony Bennett's wife dressed as a man on the wasp.

Well, yeah. Well, I actually think I do see a segue from the bug to our topic. Yeah. Should we tell to our topic. Yeah. Should we tell you? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Our topic is. The topic is. Awkwardness. And randomness. Randomness. Wow. But on the graphic, you guys can do awkwardness and then like in smaller, in a smaller font.

And randomness. And randomness. I don't want parentheses because I don't think it's like parenthetical, but I think it's like a subhead. It's a correlate. Yeah, yeah.

Well, one implies the other. And please, please listen to Bowen when he says that because he has a very visual eye and he needs it. He needs it to make sense

visually. Just like I need things to make sense sonically. Right. Bowen is the eyes and I am the ears. You understand? Sam, which one of us is the eyes and which one of us is the ears, would you say?

I don't know. They're both pretty balanced. Canonically, Sam is the mat. Sam is the mat and George is the Bowen? Sure. I see it. Which makes you the ears.

Or Sam is the Sam and George is the George. How about that? No, because I would say that I'm the Sam. I'm not saying like, who are you? Who are you of us? You're not privileging one thing over the other. You are simply drawing connections. I'm not privileging one thing over the other.

Shut up, eyes. Just go sit there and see. Even just like bring up Bowen's visual one thing over the other you are simply I'm not privileging one thing over the other shut up eyes just go sit there and see even just like bring up Bowen's visual eye it's like we are like Matt and I are both wearing tank tops on the zoom and George and Bowen are both sort of like in like kind of well lit clean white spaces

with like t-shirts and Bowen just scurried away and showed he was wearing underwear George are you wearing only underwear i'm actually wearing uh loungewear from h&m oh i love that brand um so our topic i'm wearing underwear are you yeah i am i'm in a tank top and underwear really the bartender well we actually didn't have sex because i had to it with me Molly dick Oh yeah But we really enjoyed each other That's good That's really good

Sometimes enjoying each other is sex You know I really like just kissing Do you? I love kissing I love kissing I love being so romantic I love like making out in a bar I always remember us this way.

When you gag and slay. And the whole world gags. Et cetera. Okay. Let's hear. I want to hear a kind of maybe not so much a definition. I want to put you on the spot, but kind of what you think of when you think of randomness and awkwardness. And then on top of that, why it is a straight topic to you.

I think on a sensibility level, like awkwardness and randomness are paired together because they um acknowledge how little sense the world makes which is great but it doesn't cope with it in any way except to say that's awkward or that's random and then i think honestly sam taggart when i first met him what was like 10 years ago like was someone who clued me into like this bit of like going okay like that's like i think that that kind of like in a nutshell sums up awkward randomness like it's like oh yeah uh no comment you know like that kind of thing sure sure sure i think that straight people and talk about this decade again, the 2010s, they sort of could feel that queer was going to become very cool.

And they were like, what's a way that we can be queer? Oh, not make any sense. So they started to do like, yick, yick, yick. They started to get a little awkward and random because it threw a wrench into ordinariness. Yeah. And I think that they started to sort of be awkward and random professionally and commercially because I think that it was the closest

they could get to being queer. Interesting. Okay. So you're saying awkward and random was the painting of the fingernails of the 2010s. Exactly. It's interesting because I think there are two interpretations of this. It's like on the one hand, you have what you're talking about, like awkward and random humor.

I'm thinking Napoleon Dynamite. Yes, yes, perfect. Okay. And then on the other hand, to me, another element of this is like seeing something and interpreting it as awkward and random, like seeing something out in the world. And to me, what that is, is you are uncomfortable, but you don't want to work on that. So you just put a name on it, call it random, call it awkward, and then you don't have to deal with it.

Exactly. Yeah. If someone is like saying something to you that is making you question something or like that's something you haven't heard before, something that is new, then you can just kind of be like, oh, that's so random instead of being like, well, maybe hear that person out. Maybe you're just not understanding. Maybe it's random to you because you've never challenged yourself in your life. The dismissiveness of random.

The dismissiveness of random. Yes. And the and yes in fact this is this isn't this is one of the most amazing conversations i've ever had i'm not joking academic it's very academic but it is i do think that is the the that is the issue with the 2010s i think is that the world was changing too fast for people to make sense of it. The only way they could was by calling things random and awkward. And not coping. And just moving on. But I think that's

where the humor comes from. So Sudi Green was telling me about this roommate she had her freshman year of college where the way she laughed was to go like this. What the fuck? Every time she. Oh, what the fuck? Every time she laughed, said, what the fuck at the end? And I think that sums it up.

That's, oh, what the fuck? That is straightness. That is a straight way of understanding the world or of reacting to something. Yes, because it is, you are not even allowing yourself the vulnerability of laughing. You are immediately painting yourself as superior because you're actually, by saying what the fuck, you are like, what is that? I'm better than

that. I'm not even going to address that. And it's like, no, just laugh. Yeah. I wonder if that was like a freshman year. I wonder if that was like, it's free. I wonder if that was like freshman year I wonder if that was like it's free I wonder if that was like a freshman year thing of like I'm trying to have a thing or this is

something I'm picking up right now because I'm a little nervous hashtag awkward and uncomfortable maybe they were the awkward one and I would really want to check in with that girl to see if she still does that because if she does and that's actually what she does like that's like you know naturally how she laughs and expresses that she finds something

funny that person needs to be studied and there could be a hundred people in a room but there can only be one that's that random yeah well okay here's a question i have because you know we're lumping these two things together can a person be awkward without being random can a person be random without being awkward absolutely well if they're awkward all the time it's not random wow fuck wow i kind of love it oh what the fuck what the fuck? What the fuck? There's something to it.

She's actually a slay, unfortunately. I know that it's a slay. That's actually queer. It is giving Napoleon Dynamite in a way. I feel like the character that was missing in Napoleon Dynamite was the one that was like, what the fuck? I love it, actually. I love it.

Wait, wait. Hold on. Can someone be random without being awkward? I love it actually I cover it all um wait wait but can someone wait hold on can someone be random without being awkward um yes yeah yeah okay

we don't need to explore that one further yeah okay my next thought okay hear this one out okay and for my next thought

okay so people in the 2010s I think it was sort of a top-down thing. I think the media was telling them that it was noble to be awkward and random. And so people that were maybe feeling a little outsider-y leaned into it because they were like, actually, if I own it, if I have awkward and random pride, I'm actually the intellectual in this place. I'm actually the humorous one,. I'm actually the humorous one. And I'm the hero of this story.

Yes. And that caused Sundance movies. That caused Pitchfork albums. That caused, yeah. I mean, even just like Zooey Deschanel in her version one. I was going to say, Zooey. I mean, it caused blog culture. It caused everything.

It caused like too much personality and headlines. It's everything. And I feel like it has, I forgive the usage of the term, trickled down into Gen Z behavior where it's like, oh, we're proud of being like, like they take pride or power in feeling like antisocial even more so than like we were in the 2010s yes i think almost we've swung too far in the other direction where now um randomness and awkwardness were reclaimed to such a degree yes that you kind of want to be like okay let's rein it back in yeah yeah because sometimes it doesn't sometimes it's one thing to be random. Yeah. And it's another thing to just not make any fucking sense.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you don't make any sense, I don't care. Like I'm going to walk away from you. I would even say random. I would even say a perfect example of someone in the 2010s who was in the 2010s who was random but not awkward was Gaga when she first started out a hundred percent

kermit the frog dress like all these crazy things you're like what the fuck but she wasn't being awkward about it she was like committing herself to the bit yeah while being random and it always made sense to her yes it was random to us but it was always a comment yes but do you know when do you know what the one thing she did that was interpreted as awkward? Joe Calderon. That was awkward. That was definitely awkward. That was not just random.

That was both awkward and random. And not even random. Not even random. No. Joe Calderon was the definition of, oh, what the fuck? When randomness and awkwardness combine that's when you get to cringe oh my god

wow wow my thesis maybe Matt's the George this is my fine soul I think we really excavated something 100% I understand the world better now

I really do I just want to as a counter you know things now that I didn't know then then so if random and awkward are straight does that mean normal is gay wow I think there is i think there's a normie counterculture

in gay culture right now not even a counterculture i think i think it's just a culture no it's your genius but i no no no but i like awkward and random are normie countercultures so it's not like they're not normal they are offshoots of normal. The fact that awkward and random exist, it makes the normal hegemony stronger. Wow. For awkward and random to exist. Because it only props it up more.

Totally. Awkward and random have to exist in opposition to something, and that something is normal. And that entire ecosystem is straight. It's not like one is queer and one is straight. No, you're so right. The entire ecosystem of normal

and then things in opposition to normal are all... I'm going to draw it out. I'm going to draw it out. Are you ready? Yeah, thank you. Okay, so it's an event diagram. This is where Bowen is the eye sometimes. Okay, so it's a Venn diagram. This is where Bowen is the eye sometimes. Okay, so you see awkward and normal are two separate circles,

but they are in the Venn diagram, the bigger Venn diagram of straight. I'm taking a screenshot so that we can post this. And I do think what you could do is you could make those circles interlap and in the middle is cringe. Because cringe is at the heart of straight. It is. You know, Bowen, have you considered making circles interlap and in the middle is cringe. Because cringe is at the heart of straight. It is. You know, Bowen, have you considered making them interlap?

Yeah, have you considered that? Yeah, I'm going to think about doing that. Wait, awkward and normal overlapping is not cringe. You were saying awkward and random interlap. Oh, right. I'm sorry. Me being not the eyes, I was having a difficult time seeing.

Oh, I see what you're saying. So random. Yes, not the eyes, I was having a difficult time seeing. Oh, I see what you're saying. So random. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's random. Yeah. Oh, okay. Thank you for that.

And this is cringe. Okay. All right. I'm like, you're literally making like a map for the beginning of some sort of book. I think we write this. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all?

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New episodes drop every thursday during the nfl season listen to dudes on dudes on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts i need an oral history from napoleon dynamite to juno well so you're doing more prestige also where it's like there is also like like, yeah, I think of Napoleon Dynamite as prestige. But I think random, and I love them, and they raised me in many ways, but I think you can't talk about random without talking about Lonely Island. You think? I love Lonely Island. I do.

Like Hot Rod. Like, Hot Rod was almost peak internet random humor because, like, in a commercial. Like, do you remember the Cool cool beans remix while in the middle of hot rod it's not it's not lonely islands you know what the awkward random origin is what homestar runner wow wow you're damn so fucking correct okay here is my this is my origin of awkward and random that is like you know it's like it's like this professor that studies really kind of niche things and is going to say something really. Are you ready? It is the Amanda show sketch.

The girls room where one of the girls always says, I like eggs. Oh, my God. Honestly, it does come from awkwardness and randomness. The generation that was old enough to appreciate Napoleon Dynamite in high school, their children shows were the kind of things that were like eggs. Exactly. Yep. Or like Gilly being such a thing for so long was because people in their childhood had a trauma because they were watching kids shows where it was like, I like eggs.

And in fact, I'm now realizing so much of the Amanda show was like that. The one where she would always like whack Drake Bell in the face with a hillbilly moment. Yeah, a hillbilly moment. Yeah, a hillbilly moment. Another... Remember Lori Beth Denberg? That fucking segment on all that? That was a slay. That was a full slay, but it was random.

Okay, how about the Andy Milonakis show? Vital information about every day life. Yes, Sam. Andy Milonakis, 100%. Yeah, totally. Peak random. And so much MTV programming at the time. And we love them, but we hate them for what they did to our friends.

But like Adult Swim stuff and back in the day, like Aqua Teen Hunger Force. A hundred percent. Yeah. It was like, oh, random. It's the fries are talking to the meatballs or what, you know, like. I don't know. This is tough. This is tough.

A hundred percent. Like Good Burger. This is tough. This is tough. 100%. Like good burger. Like orange soda. Yes, exactly. It's like, what is the joke with- Who loves orange soda? Kel loves orange soda. I do, I do, I do.

Ew. That's funny. Very random. You know what else this is bringing? Wait, this is actually, I'm having a huge insight. Okay, I'm actually scared which is that this is related to the over reliance on just references like just because something is a reference doesn't make it interesting or funny or insightful but it does make it random if you just reference something

it's it and that's like the orange soda thing it's's like, okay, great. Now we know this is a joke. Whenever they mention orange soda, you just know to laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Can I be really random right now? Please. Yeah. If you're not awkward. We found out that Trump has violated the Espionage Act.

While recording? And they did find top secret info at Mar-a-Lago. Are you reading Twitter while you're on this podcast? No, you're reading in your times? No, no, no. It literally popped up on my phone as a notification. And it was like this. And then it lit up like that because I saw the news headline.

Can I tell you something? Matt, when I saw your face change, I thought you were offended because I made a light joke about you saying interlap. And I literally this entire time thought that you were mad at me because I said that no I'm not mad at you I said interlap he said that so he was mad at you and I've been thinking this entire time how much I love you I've actually been thinking it this

entire time especially last night and I was so excited I was I love everyone here I'm sorry to be a fucking idiot but I loved everyone last night I was sorry to be a fucking idiot, but I loved everyone last night. I was so happy everyone was there. And when you guys had your earnest moment in the beginning, I loved that.

Last night I felt an overwhelming, almost, I would say, it was almost a sadness in the knowledge that I will never be able to express to each person how much they mean to me. It was so special. Yes, you will. You always can. Bowen and I did last night. Bowen and I had a very

nice moment. Quick things in each other's ears. Very quick affirmations of love to each other. It's very important. You gotta do. I can't recommend it enough. And you guys did that earlier and it was so beautiful. Even if it was sort of a little bit you guys did that earlier and it was so beautiful.

Even if it was sort of a little bit of a joke, I knew it was real. Sam and I have been doing it more and more, I would say. Yeah. I also like there is just something. I mean, when I'm in a room with Sam, I feel safer. It's true. That is the ultimate compliment. This is the end of the start.

Now. But yeah, I do feel like I have to explain less to George, and he just sort of understands it. Like sort of where I'm coming from. It's really nice. Earnestness is the least awkward. Sometimes it can be awkward, but it's the least random thing. Well, you know that awkwardness.

It can be awkward if the receiving party is not committing to listening. Honey, you know awkwardness and randomness are literally a reaction to being genuine and being real like it is yes it is a complete fear-based response so like yeah of course it's like why is napoleon dynamite written like that or why is sorry juno written like that because they can't say what they mean but by the end juno does say what she means she does exactly thank you that's my point and you know what you know you know what my favorite my favorite part of juno is at the end when um she says to michael cera like i just like you're you don't even really try you're so cool and you don't even really try and he says says, I try really hard, actually. You know what? I thought that was so good!

You're right. Oscar! I completely take back my examples. What is a good example of what I'm saying? It's like using it as a defense mechanism, like using awkwardness and randomness as a defense mechanism. The character of Juno does that.

The character of Juno does that. I would say it's even like, yeah, it's almost like the ethos of the movie rather than the actual movie itself. Yes, yes, yes. There's a certain distance. It doesn't let you in too close, which I guess is why it works ultimately because then it's even more rewarding at the end when they do get earnest.

Yeah, it's sort of a commentary on random, not an endorsement. And they sing a song with each other, which is the most intimate thing you can do. They sing a song together, which is so sweet. You know what, though? That song is peak random in terms of the lyrical content. The lyrical content is random, and for your band to be called the Moldy Peaches is random. But they had a shared sense of humor, And they were sharing it with each other. And there is intimacy in that.

They're also supposed to be children. They're flawed. They're dumb. They're supposed to have bad taste. And whatever. We're almost like... Okay, not everything is random. You know what I mean? We're sort of putting everything in random.

And it's like some things are weird. And that's different than random, actually. Sam is pissed off. Yeah yeah sam is really mad no this is my after i pour my heart out to him he's like first of all bitch not everything is random first of all i think i think we can look it's my job in this podcast to sometimes stop us from getting carried away yeah because it can start to feel like you know yes that that that that and it's like actually not all that sometimes like i think we're referencing a lot of humor and some humor is silly but not inherently random i love silly i love silly i love of course i mean it's politically necessary i love silly i love stupid i don't really like awkward i don't like awkward or random um okay wait i have one do you count

like i'd say like nathan for you is awkward but it's awkward done really well the way i was gonna say that exact same thing it's awkward yeah it's like it's awkward sort of in the same space as like improv where it's like yeah when it's bad it's horrible but when it's good it is sort of magical but it's awkward in a very controlled way in in a way that is that leaves you watching it questioning the reality of things i think it transcends awkward i don't think awkward is the right label i do think it is a commentary on awkward and random much like Juno. Nathan For You

is very much the Juno of 2022. A show that's been off the air for like four years. Yeah. Okay, no. See, Nathan For You is cringe. Okay. Wait. See, Nathan for you is cringe. Okay, okay, okay. Nathan for you uses cringe

to comment on awkward. It takes awkward to the most heightened place of cringe so that you see truth. Okay, yeah, George, go. It's not using awkwardness as a crutch, like many of these things that we are. It's not using awkwardness. It's about awkwardness. It is an investigation of awkwardness more so than relying on awkwardness as a crutch because at a loss for other things. Exactly. And a perfect example is an early episode of Nathan For You

where he works with a gas station attendant and then it goes great. And at the very end, the gas station attendant out of nowhere starts talking about how he drinks his grandson's pee sometimes. And it really comes out of nowhere. And then Nathan Fielder, I think this is a real moment,

but it's one of those things in the show where you're like, is this real? But Nathan Fielder, the real person, is like, wait, what? Like, what are you talking about? And that is awkward, random, and cringe, all three. It's all three in one thing.

The Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity. Awkward, random, and cringe. And no one's done it since The office thank you steve carell thank you you are an icon for everything you've done for the community wait the office is awkward yes yes that is actually such a great example that that we hadn't touched on is actually mockumentary in general is like oh my god george you're so right yeah like when done well like to me christopher guest movies are like the biggest pleasure it's like the the perfect movies because much like nathan

for you they actually are it's about the subject of those things rather than using them as crutches whereas the office at its worst not always at its worst is just using awkwardness and randomness well it uses it as a sprinkle. I think The Office is a good show and then I need way less of Jim being like, random, that's weird. I don't need that.

Jim is one of the worst parts of The Office. And I feel bad saying that because you kind of need him to even have The Office. When you think of The Office, probably top the office because like it's so like when you think of the office like probably top three things you think about is jim looking at the camera like but but jim is jim is awkward and dwight is random yes yeah and michael scott and michael scott is cringe and michael scott is cringe yes yes 100 wow i wait one tiny little footnote is

about when we were talking about improv briefly. Improv, in fact, is the definition of random because it's literally give us a topic. It's literally pick a random thing and then build something around it. Wait, I have a question. Do you guys think John Krasinski

is hot? Yeah. No. I don't either. I mean, he seems lovely. He I don't either. I mean, he seems lovely. He just doesn't do it for me, but it's fine. Much like many of these, I heard he's not lovely. I heard he's a dick. Oh, well then there you go. Yeah, that's what I've heard too.

Dumois says he's an absolute dick. And that's fact checked. And that's fact. I do think that much like many of these guys, and I'm not saying anything new, but I'm like, yeah, he was hot when it was like a surprise that he was hot. He's not hot now that he's like funded by the CIA. Right. It was snuck up on you that he's hot.

Yeah. Yeah. Like to look at him in the office and be like, you know what? Kind of random that I find him hot. Now that. That's awkward. That's awkward. That's awkward considering I'm sitting with my wife.

You know what's weird? It's like The Office had John Krasinski become hot leading man and Parks and Rec had Chris Pratt become hot leading man. Exactly, yeah. But we're not seeing anything from 30 Rock. Where is the hot leading man from 30 Rock? Why isn't Jack McBrayer in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is what I want to know.

That's really what I'm saying. You know who I think is so hot and truly like is just whatever is so hot is Jonathan from 30 Rock, Malik Pancholi. Oh, 100%. And a sweetheart in real life and is I'm so attracted to him deeply. And I want to say like Juilliard, like he's like a real wonderful, in real life. And I'm so attracted to him deeply. And I want to say like Juilliard.

Like he's like a real. Oh, he's wonderful. A real actor. Wait, which one is he? A real actor. Jonathan? Malik Pancholi. Jonathan.

He is Alec Baldwin's. Oh. Wait, wait. Hans is his. I didn't know Hans was here. Hi, Hans. Alec Baldwin started his career as a hot leading man. No?

Well, that's someone who started his career as a hot leading man. The premise of what I was saying, Hans, if you listen, was that it's someone from the show who then became a hot leading man. It's someone unexpected. It's someone that like was not put there to be hot. And then people were like, wait, that person's hot. Right. Yeah. Thanks.

But thanks. You're getting a glimpse into my relationship with Hans, which is really, at its core, very flirty. Oh, God. I had no idea. It's sort of random when you are wanting to flirt with someone and you're nasty to them. You know what I mean? I guess.

I was thinking it's more like, sounds like illegal. It's like you're flirting with a co-worker. illegal like it's like you're like flirting with like a co-worker you know what I mean? It sounds like we should call 911 and not the one in Chromatica. I'm talking jail time darling. Kim Petra said Problematique

that should be my album. When? What are we going to do about her? Wait wait wait Matt can you say that again? again problematic that should be my album what the fuck i mean okay why are we laughing why are we laughing are we laughing at the metal on a metal level amazing it's amazing are Are we laughing on a meta level at what the fuck? Well, I think the funny thing is that there is this person, Sudu knows, that did that.

It's not like... Yeah, that's the funny thing. But also, there's an SNL sketch that I think is also... I'm sorry, but this was before my time. But it was Cecily Strong and Scarlett Johansson dressed up in nerdy clothes going to a museum. They're going in front of this dinosaur skeleton and then like you know someone's explaining what the dinosaur is and then both of them it's peace in a pod and both of them are like okay what if a giant what if we put a giant

turd under the dino and everyone's gonna be like um that happened you know like it's like but why are we laughing at that because yeah we're laughing at that kind of the idea because those people are so yeah uh we know those people and they're like annoying and we've wanted someone to make fun of them for a long time and also like so that so that happened is exactly what we were saying of like seeing something that seeing something that makes you uncomfortable or is somehow um foreign and then not then bringing it down to your level by being like, okay. Okay. Or I guess so.

We all saw that. And those people thinking they're funny drives me crazy. Like just being like, well, that happened. Like, okay, don't say that again. Or like that kind of like joke. So I guess that's normal now. Okay, I guess we're having this conversation. It's very like Midwestern barbecue humor.

Sam, you always go to the midwest when you want to insult something honey I've earned it honey I've paid my dues I've spent my time there I don't need it anymore I know it's just I guess I'm always thinking of like my parents friends and like the ones that like think they're funny I'm always like

oh no here we go because it hurts every time sorry sorry if sorry if you're okay if you're listening to this podcast and you're my parents friend i'm sorry i'm but you're not funny you're not funny period and if you listen to this and your instinct is to go well he said that that happened that happened you're proving his point. Stupid. Stupid, idiot, fool. Go back to Costco, my parents. So what are the correct ways to react to things?

Let's start there. I feel this way. I feel sad. I feel happy. I feel scared. Yeah, be honest about your feelings for once. It's Brene Brown. Label the feeling because then it shapes the experience.

Okay? Just say how you feel because the it shapes the experience. Okay? Just say how you feel because the word defines the experience. Because guess what? By saying so that happened, you're literally making yourself even, you're putting even more distance between you and what you were experiencing.

How are you going to always remember something this way if you say, well, that happened every single time? To always remember something this way, you say well that happened every single time like to always remember something this way you have to have a way like not just the way you not just a standard monotone even just saying after something happens i'll always remember us this way that locks it in yeah that's it is it is literally the opposite of so that happened. Because imagine if literally, what was his name in the movie? Jackson Maine. If Jackson Maine pissed himself on stage at the Grammys and Ally literally just goes,

so I guess that happened. Okay, wait. But if that actually happened, I would be laughing. That would be the funniest thing I have ever seen. It cuts to her. Well, that happened. Okay. Like a hyper sincere movie.

And then just one part where she's like, I guess this is adulting. Like would make me laugh so hard. Any major plot point in any movie like the Titanic sinking. That happened. That happened. Okay. So I guess we're sinking now. Do you know what we're literally describing?

What? Say it with me, Marvel. Oh my God. Literally, this is what Marvel is. Marvel is the ultimate triumph of awkward and random. Awkward and random. Yes. Yes.

Wow. It's literally, wow. The Celestia stone is being combined with the MacGruber biotic scents. And we have to go. And then like literally you'll cut to a raccoon

that's talking. I'm like, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. So true. Captain America. And I am Groot. Okay, wait.

I am Groot. I hate Guardians. I hate Guardians and I hate Guardians. And Bowen and I famously walked out of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 1. Because if I had to hear that tree say, I am Groot, one more time. And people would be like, oh my god, that is so funny. He is Groot. That's all he says.

That is so stupid. I mean, I am Groot. The concept of I am Groot is one of the most politically regressive things aesthetically that has ever happened in our culture. The fact that I am meant to find it funny that a tree says I am Groot. Not to be the odd one out, but Guardians is a sleigh. No, hate it. No, Sam. And also, I'll tell you what they're also trying.

They're trying it when they bring out like baby Groot. Because now there's this thing of like, oh, we're re-energizing because something is a baby now, like Baby Yoda. And it worked with Baby Yoda because it's so adorable. But like Baby Groot. Baby Yoda, I think something is a baby now.

Her name is Grogu. Say her name. Grogu is the cutest thing that's ever been made ever. It is a triumph of artistry of puppetry of cinema it is so powerful as a figure yeah you everyone needs everyone needs a baby grogu everyone needs one i like i honestly it's there it's amazing to bring on a vacation you can dress them up like baby yoda slash grogu is something that, like, I would love, like, I would like to tell my past self about. Like, I'd be like, hold on, baby, because in a few years, there's going to be a Baby Yoda, and you're going to love it.

Yeah, earnestly, I'm so happy that Baby Yoda exists. I really am. It's so important. Yeah. I think Baby Yoda, we haven't really seen this type of sort of fantasia around a toy since Tickle Me Elmo. And this one wasn't going to kill you. Tickle Me Elmo was killing people?

Say that. Oh, giving seizures to all the kids. And then the parents said, well, what happened? All the kids. Well, that happened. Me as a parent when my kid is having a seizure. So I guess that's normal now.

I would go, well, $85 later. Okay, $85 later and my kid is dead. Oh my God. I need a drink drink I need a cocktail honey where's the bar that's another like honey where's the bar 100%

huh where's the bar I need a cocktail yesterday we need to leave this planet yesterday. Yes, I love it. I love those types of people. They're fun to me.

Wine humor. George, what are you thinking about? Yeah, George isn't thought. No, I... You're like so... I truly am just... Well, don't. I would say intellectually,

the things that have been put into my brain throughout this recording are making it about to burst. You're exhausted. It's been very stimulating. This is, I'm sorry to say. Everyone is making such good points. And I feel this almost coked out energy of having to give up.

Yeah. No, no, no. We can slow it down. We can pump the brain. I mean. No, no, no, no. Bowen, please. I know what I'm doing.

Oh, trust me. Intellectual. The intellectual. Intellectual rigor is his wine. please. I know what I'm doing. Oh, trust me. Intellectual, the intellectual, intellectual rigor is his wine. It's somewhere. Don't talk to me until I've had my intellectual rigor. Honey,

where's the library? That's what George is saying. Wait, I've actually been dying for an iced coffee this whole time. And now it's like three 45, but I slept until literally 145. So this is still my morning. What do I do? I ask my girls.

I just want to say your morning can look like anything. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And honestly, a night coffee is one of those beautiful things you can get. I actually love a night coffee. Should we wait? I think we have to do our final segment which is actually Crazy because we have another recording

Actually oh who are you recording with next Wouldn't you like to know You told us yesterday who it was Shut up I forgot but I forgot It's someone You both really like Someone you both really like Someone that will

Believe have you Believe in gagging is the future. Whitney. Whitney Houston. Yeah, we got Whitney. That's a gag. I want to gag with somebody. I want to build a sleigh with somebody.

Just coming on the pod. No. Matt, fuck you. Cut that out. Roger. out that is toxic that's awkward we're gonna dub that with um no that's that's deadpool humor which is talk about toxic which is where random meets cruelty we're actually just actually we're gonna just bleep uh the name that matt said so that we can witness the aftermath while not offending anyone exactly can i tell you guys one more

one more awkward thing yes yes okay so this is a secondhand story but um from one of the movers at my uh when i used to work as a mover there was this guy who loved like got all of his humor from sort of internet culture and it was really bad but he was talking to the client and he was talking about how like this couch was gonna like be kind of difficult to get into the hallway and it was gonna fit awkwardly and he was like yeah it's gonna be pretty awkward like deadpool meeting deadpool oh no i like that premise I like that premise too I don't like how he delivered Ryan Reynolds

so hot yeah I hate the premise I actually hate every single part of what Sam just said I'm trying to find something to like about it because he seems nice well here's what I like about it I like the effort

I like that he wrote it that was a pre-written joke he was on you know he woke up in the morning and was like you know what if if nothing else today i am gonna land this joke and here we are talking about it and in some ways he did hey well-behaved um movers make history. And he made a splash that day and love him or hate him. It's still an obsession. You know, I'm going to reference that reference humor. Here we go. Okay, let's do our final segment.

All right. What's the, let's do the final segment. It's my favorite segment in podcasting history. Our final segment is called shout outs. And in it, we give a shout out to anything that we enjoy sort of in the classic style of imagine it's 2001 and you're at TRL and Times Square shouting out to your squad back home. Anything that you like, give give a shout out to anything that we enjoy sort of in the classic style of imagine it's 2001 and you're at TRL in Times Square shouting out to your squad back home. Anything that you like, give it a shout out.

George, do you have one? I could like really wing it. It's actually, I just want to say it is by design that we don't think of these ahead of time because otherwise they wouldn't be spontaneous. So no one can be mad at us that we quote unquote had two months to prepare for the quote unquote first episode of the season.

But here's, I'm going to do one that is actually so basic that it is a commentary mad at us that we quote unquote had two months to prepare for the quote unquote first episode of the season. Yeah. But here's I'm going to do one that is actually so basic that it is a commentary on being basic. Is everyone ready? Yeah. Yeah. What's up, listeners, and welcome to season three of the pod. I want to give a quick shout out to soaking beans.

This is something that feels very you you might say feels very uh 2015 or maybe 2016 or 2017 it's something people you know it's something you read the alice in roman newsletter let's say and and she says and she and she kind of makes it a thing of like don't yell at me i don't soak beans sorry and then you're like oh interesting i guess there are debates happening about these and parts of the internet where people don't have to worry about other topics. But here's what I will tell you, listener, is that I just soaked beans for the first time, made them the other week. And guess what? The girlies are right.

I have never had a creamier lima bean in my life. I made a completely improvised white bean salad and had it for lunch. We're talking corn. We're talking avocado. We are talking feta. And we are talking parsley and a lemon dressing. And none of that would be possible without a little thing called soaking beans. And it's just water and beans.

So shout out to Allison Roman. And I wish her the best. Shout out. Shout out. Allison is back. She's been back. She's been back. Alison bin Roman.

What I just did is reference humor. We actually are guilty of both random and reference humor. Everyone is. I like reference humor a lot. No one is making humor to vacuum all the time. Everyone is. I like reference humor a lot. No one is making humor in a vacuum all the time. Of course.

I want to say. Of course. Making humor. What the fuck am I saying? Making humor. Making humor. Hey. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I've got one somewhere. Let's see. Okay. I've got one somewhere let's see okay i've got it what's up freaks losers and perverts across

the globe i love you and i see you i would like to give a shout out to the man selling water outside of the chromatica concert last night because when I got out of that concert I was overjoyed with joy but I was feeling parched with water and I was dying and I said if someone why is I thought this was a capitalist nation why is no one selling water I'm willing to pay upwards of $10 for a bottle of damn water because I am thirsty and then then comes this man who, yeah, was probably going against the government and probably not licensed. I hope that's okay with everyone. Sometimes I support unlicensed vendors. And he said, I will give you this water bottle for $4. And I said, I will pay that. And I drank it and I wish I had gotten to because

I was so fucking thirsty and getting out of that stadium was a nightmare and I wish I had gotten to because I was so fucking thirsty and getting out of that stadium was a nightmare I think I will maybe never go to that location again unless I of course have to to see my girl Stephanie Germanotta who I do still stand and I hope to one day be um dead as mentally ill as I was in 2020 to fall in love with her next album just as hard as I fell in love with Chromatica. I love America. Woo! Wow, I did not expect it to end on I love America. I love America.

That was a random left turn. Here's what I will say. Unlicensed vendors are... In fact, I actually am going to bang pots and pans every day at 7 p.m. To honor unlicensed vendors. Yeah, I agree with that. They are some of our nation's greatest heroes. And Andrew Yang tried to comfort them, the churro people.

Well. How dare he? How dare he? Wish I could slap him across the face with a churro. He's one of America's worst people, actually. Yeah. Yeah. I have to agree.

Okay. Who wants to go next? I'll go. I have something. I can. Bone can go. Okay. Bone can go.

Yeah. It's a fun one. As these all have been. Oh. And they. I wasn't questioning until you said that. Oh. Sheesh.

Awkward. Okay. Hey, hey, hey. I, awkward. Okay. Hey, hey, hey, I'm what's happening. That's a line from one of my favorite singers, Missy Elliott,

but that's not my shout out singer. Famously. I wanted to shout out the entire cast and crew of into the woods on Broadway. I saw this show on Wednesday night with our good friend Matt Whitaker. I'm so sorry, Patrick Rogers, another good friend of ours. I'm going with Matt Whitaker. Yes, Matt's going with Matt Whitaker.

But I saw this production. My favorite Sondheim show, the first Sondheim show I saw on videotape, the Bernadette Peters version, the original Broadway run. Very formative culture for me. I didn't realize. And you know what? shout out to Celestium for sharing with me

this beautiful piece of wisdom that the most politically important and impactful art is children's books and anything having to do with children's stories because you know what my favorite thing about

Into the Woods is that it's a show about impact and that's why it's impactful Sarah Bareilles Brian Darcy James Christina Miller Phillipa Sue Gavin Creel Julia Lester was a great little red impact and that's why it's impactful sarah borealis um uh brian darcy james patina miller philippa sue gavin creel julia lester was a great little red um annie golden who could forget punk legend and broadway legend annie golden the mute lady on orange is the new black when she opens

her mouth and sings you're happy and you go why they make her mute i loved it bye i loved all the listing of the names. I felt like I was ready for sort of Oscars play out music to start. I thought that could have been a slay. As someone who's also seen it and is going again because it was just that fabulous, I have to concur with every word

that my sister has just said. It's really excellent. It's one of my favorite theater experiences I've had. Do you think, here's my question. I went when Gavin Creel was in fact unavailable and his understudy filled in. Oh, you didn't even see Cheyenne? I didn't even see Cheyenne. But luckily, unlike some people on the Zoom, I did see Sara Bareilles.

Oh! I saw Sara. I literally went to the show and Sara was sick. And I literally, I looked at my playbill and saw the role of the Baker's wife will be portrayed by someone else and I almost asked for I literally but I I screenshotted I screenshotted your story and send it to Matthew and I was like

this could not happen to a less deserving person this is like specifically for that to happen to you for that to happen to Matt really hard and I'm going again on on the 23rd. And Matt Whitaker and I are going. And he's seen it, I think, two times already.

And so that's a testament. And Bowen Yang and I are also going to see Lea Michele in Funny Girl. I need to get my tickets. But unfortunately, it's going to be difficult. I'm ready. Go for it. All right.

Take it away. What's up, everybody? This is your boy, Matt Rogers, third time on Stradio Lab. Very happy to be here. Thank you to the host for having me once again. I want to give a quick shout out to Desco V for Prep. It allows you not to use condoms

because condoms fucking suck. Who wants to use a condom? It's a whole thing. It's an awkward random moment when you're trying to get it on. Honestly, for me, I just would rather stick it in raw,protected bareback if you will i love raw unprotected bareback sex and being come inside of myself and coming in other people desk ov for

prep allows it to happen yes am i running the risk of getting other stis always but that doesn't really matter when i'm having such a great time so thank you doctors thank you physicians thank you people in the lab scientists etc thank you to everyone that's made this possible shout out to you desk ov for prep get your prescription right now so that just happened so matt just stand big pharma that just oh yeah oh yeah matt just talked about fucking Did anyone else hear that? So I guess we're talking about fucking now So we're a sex podcast now

Okay You're welcome Just made y'all relevant I guess I'll see myself out Okay I'm hard nothing else you know who is a master of the meta humor of awkwardness and randomness is meg stalter yeah meg has mastered it i was also thinking of patty in conversation patty harrison oh yeah

will respond to many things as elevated awkward as I would call it. Elevated awkward. Well, guys, thank you for being here to kick off our third season. It's so special to have you guys on our first ep. It really means a lot. That really is

an honor. And I just want to say for us as well. And can I just say congratulations on what i know is a big deal it's a big deal that you signed and i just want to say i'll always remember us this way oh love you guys love you guys um and the whole world no let Matt sing us off yeah I mean okay Matt you can sing us off always remember

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