Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Sunday Morning Talk" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: April 12, 2023

It is sometimes nice to get together with your sister and have a Sunday Morning Talk. And on this episode of talking-based podcast Las Culturistas, that is what Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers do. Over we...ed and coffee, the two dive into all things recent (except Succession, sorry sorry sorry): the Disney-DeSantis war, marijuana in NYC, Chappell Roan's imminent ascendance to That Girl, "being a finalist", the definition of a "sneaky link", the Porsha and Gizelle of it all on RHUGT, wifi and internet wars both on land and in the skies, the end of Taylor and Joe, the Super Mario Bros movie, boygenius slaying it, and AO Scott's retirement. Also, Luigi as a queer figure, Peach as a nothing figure, and republicans as physically ugly figures. All this, Yellowjackets/Melanie Lynskey, Monster's Inc./Shrek, improv/roleplay, Ellen Pompeo quietly leaving Grey's Anatomy, reviews of The Thanksgiving Play and Sweeney Todd on Broadway, "Thatgirlability", Drew Barrymore being an icon, and coffee shop milk counter etiquette. Where were you when Taylor and Joe broke up? When do you think was the end of glamour and taste? Does your FYP give you what *you* want or what *they* want? Regardless of the answers to these questions... Katie, you're a finalist. Now have a great day.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:39 Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Las Culturistas calling. Getting sort of a coffee moment. Coffee in the morning. Coffee in the morning time. Miguel is back on the charts. What do you think? Is that a Miguel song? Miguel has a song called Coffee.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And his song from his first album is charting because of that old TikTok. Oh. I think TikTok is officially over because I'm on it now. You know, I actually, so you didn't sort of make like an internal announcement that you were going on TikTok? No, I kind of just a soft launch. It's the only soft launch I'm getting these days. Oh, period. Tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Girl, it's breakup era. Not even a soft launch? I'm saying like soft, like there's no like relationship soft launch. Oh, oh okay so i was thinking soft launch as in like and sorry to be graphic on the podcast this early like in terms of like a soft launch like a boner launched into you oh that's i i wonder that must be a kink right what like i only bought him if it's soft oh wow one time i hooked up with a guy and he was like i can't get hard but should i just put my soft dick inside of and did you think about it no i let it happen i was like 100 and he's sort of like just i don't even know how this kind of it's like it's like when a rat is able to fit through
Starting point is 00:02:55 a little quarter-sized hole and the rat's a big ball of mush instead of being as hard as a rat the rat just did coke and was like oh i can't get hard i'm sorry I'm sorry. It was a whole thing. Sorry, we're getting graphic. You know what? Let's just set the time and the place. It's Sunday. Sunday morning talk. Sunday morning talk, Matt and I. Sunday morning talk. Yeah, that's it. Sunday morning talk. One of the final times Matt will be coming to
Starting point is 00:03:17 SNL in the dressing room. Yes, I came. You've been coming three shows in a row and I'm truly so grateful. Does it lift your spirits to see me there? Are you kidding me? I know it. These past three shows, it doesn't matter what the content of the show is,
Starting point is 00:03:30 all I'm thinking is, my girl is stomping the halls of 8H soon. It feels lovely to be there to support, and I will say you did slay last night. Girl. For a topical reason in the news and a topical reason in our life, because I will say we are going to,
Starting point is 00:03:46 of course the world, the Disney world in a couple of weeks. And so you very presciently sort of took on the DeSantis Disney drama. I've been following the DeSantis Disney drama and Washington posted this whole article that I was almost going to send you of like, whoa, like right when the story broke that like Disney had basically like blocked control of the district for decades to come,
Starting point is 00:04:06 I was like, man, this is pretty... I don't want to give snaps to a corporation or anything, but this is pretty impressive. It is a war that's going on down there right now. And you know what I didn't realize, which I only realized last night during your piece, was that he got married there. He got married at the Grand Floridian Hotel. See, that to me is two things. Very telling about why he's doing all this an emotional reason yes and two one of the gayest things i've ever heard in my life
Starting point is 00:04:32 one of the gays i'm sorry every couple on disney fairy tale weddings was queer even if they were even if they were heteros it's both the straightest thing you do to get married at disney and one of the no actually it's not one of the queerest things you do it's one of the gayest it's one of the gay it's not queer it's gay and we use that pejoratively pejoratively gay uh parentheses derogatory we're on fire today we're actually on fire we've smoked a little bit of that rifa and actually bon was asking an interesting question before we got on which is where do you buy weed in new york my answer everywhere yeah so talk about this because i'm really not i'm not i'm not on the sidewalks too much these days. Yeah, you're not sort of on the sidewalks these days.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Well, I'm just, all I do is I walk to the L. Up in A.H. I keep it moving. I get tunnel vision. Literally, I put the blinders on. I'm like, I can't. It's not that I, like, I don't want to look at what's around me in my periphery. I just got to, like.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You got to get where you're going. I got to get where I'm going. There's things to do. There's things to do. So, meanwhile, me. Totally a different walking energy lately love it very like i'm deciding i'm just going on a walk and then we'll go on one you walked back to the hotel last night is that actually here's the thing i thought so from the after party last night it was like truly five in
Starting point is 00:05:36 the morning and i thought to myself oh i'm gonna walk home and then i i got like literally a block down and i was like wait am i insane i was like i'm not walking home at all. And I got a cab in Midtown. I know. I know you're in your walking bag. And that's the thing is I'm in my walk era now that I'm in New York again. And so basically what I'm saying is my walk energy now is very strolling down the street slowly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Ambling walk and very much looking up and around. Oh, that's see, that's what you lose when you live here for so long. And I'm so glad you got to like hit the reset. And that's within you. That's a choice that you make within you. That's actually Rural Culture number 30.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's a choice that you make within you. Basically, what I'm saying is on my sort of stoned, I'm going to say creative walks lately. I love. I've been listening to music and sort of trying to find a new. Actually, Chapel has been in heavy rotation. And by the sort of trying to find a new actually chapel has been in heavy rotation and by the way chapel just dropped a new song kaleidoscope and she had done it in her concert but i saw it the fonda and i'm telling you i feel like i didn't give chapel enough time when because we just sort of breezed by it because i think adele had just happened chapel
Starting point is 00:06:40 we need a time is really she's taking it she's taking it tell us about she's taking it. She's taking it. Tell us about... She's taking it. She's taking it. Wait, we need to make an announcement. What's the announcement? The other night I met with my girls. Period. I met with the hens.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Matt Rogers is in top form. What did I do? And then he goes, I have an announcement to make. Now when some, you know, mother whatever is over. Now, in the lexicon, if you want to say that someone is like giving, if someone is like really like gagging, whatever, all these, you know, the new updated thing is to say they are a finalist.
Starting point is 00:07:21 They're a finalist. And Chappel Rohn is a finalist? Chappel Rohn is a finalist. Chappel Rohn is a finalist. She's in the finals. We'll see you in New York. We're going to see you in New York. For the finals. At the finals.
Starting point is 00:07:30 At the finals. Because you, my dear, are a finalist. And here's the thing. I knew that she was bracketed, okay, initially. Yeah, in a heat. I knew that she was in a heat. And I even knew she had become a semi-finalist. I heard rumbles and rollings that she had become a semi-finalist i heard rumbles and rollings that she had become a semi-finalist yeah and then i saw this concert
Starting point is 00:07:50 at the fonda the only way i can describe it is it's like it's giving like annie lennox meets kesha i love that it is like dumb ass like flippity floppity like performance in the beginning she comes out in a blonde wig and is very given, like, pop star. And it's very, like, it's almost like a satire of what a pop show is. And it's very colorful and fun. She comes back out. She's taking her blonde wig off. She's got these gorgeous, luscious red curls.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Her hair is iconic. She comes out and she goes, It's me, Chapel! Chapel Rone! And everyone's screaming. And it's like, oh oh she just did this thing where she took a wig off and now she's revealing this is her and incredible it's amazing so it's that's like the energy hey god like it's very like bratty girl but like she's also from missouri but basically her whole mythology and there kind of is one she was that girl in Missouri who was
Starting point is 00:08:46 living a certain kind of life and said, I'm going to Hollywood. Mama, you can't stop me. And that's like what Pink Pony Club sort of fantasizes, is this idea of a girl who went to go be a go-go dancer in California and after a small town. That wasn't her. She just kind of went to pursue music,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but there's this mythology that she creates of the girl who went to go be a need that myth back because you know what the myth was completely replaced by this thing of like yeah i went to yale and then um moved to the city and now i work at mckinsey it's like that is that is the moving to new york story of like recent times and those people should stop. They're not finalists. They're actually eliminated. They're actually eliminated.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They've been eliminated from the competition. Your plane is ready. Your plane is ready. You're a ticket queen. You're sitting at the far end at the reunion. You're sitting at the far end of the reunion and you're not long for this world. The package on you is going to be about 20 seconds
Starting point is 00:09:42 and then we're moving on. Which by the way, speaking of Housewives, we'll get into it. Oh oh no we've never been more on one about a certain green green-eyed freak green-eyed bastard son because that she's my son oh my god we sired her and we said no give her up you know what just happened like and we will get back into chapel because there's more to say but i literally looked over at your bar cart and there was a bottle of class azul giselle i got it it's here in my apartment come and get it you fucking idiot there's fucking hater but there are so many places to get this tequila it's like a very popular tequila it's also it's like a hundred dollars usd i think i looked it up it's 142 dollars
Starting point is 00:10:22 which like for a nice bottle of tequila is not something that Gisele Bryant cannot afford. And it's just like, here's the thing. Well, that's how you know she's literally scraping the bottom of the fucking barrel. Well, here's the thing. For drama. I would be okay with it if it was like a funny plot line. But there's just something in her that's going too hard. And to watch Pepsi cry, I was like, no, you've gone too far.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You've made Pepsi cry. Giselle Bryant, it's one thing to try to attack the lives of others, but not Pepsi. It has to stop at Pepsi. Candice Dillard Bassett is, look, she can withstand your ire. Pepsi literally cannot, which is not to say that he is not a strong person, but he also does not deserve it. And this is the thing whenever now everybody listen anytime people are like crazy on a vacation trash a hotel room guess who's cleaning that up guess who has to like be the repository for your fucking
Starting point is 00:11:17 unhinged behavior it is like the fucking people who are like attending to your living yeah it's like whatever not to get on my show what's even worse is the way that they talk to him some of them the way that like not really leah but like in the beginning a little bit leah a little bit to be honest like to me porsche like i was so excited for porsche to come back to real housewives ultimate girls trip because i have i guess selective memory because she time and time again shows her ass and her behavior really is wild. I don't know if you watched any. You're not really an Atlanta person.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I watched a couple episodes leading up to the Kenya drag. Right. But what I'm saying is she was one way on that show and then on her spinoff, The Portia Family Matters, she really came off bad. Yeah. Like really, really, really bad. And so then to see her come on the show,
Starting point is 00:12:06 I guess I just forgot that because she is hilarious, that's the thing. She's actually hilarious in a way that, like, when people are like, Giselle is funny, though. I'm like, no. No, Portia is funny. Portia is funny. Giselle, I'm like, it's so sweaty.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It's always sweaty. And that's what the Kosta Azul thing is. It's like, you're trying too hard. You're straining, honey. Yeah, no, the thing is, like, I will literally put up with any behavior if the person is super funny yeah and porsche is funny enough to me where it's just like i'll look the other way sort of like when they were in the the elephant zone oh my god she turns to them and she goes this is a spiritual elephant sanctuary and canada just started screaming and laughing and they she had just
Starting point is 00:12:44 been mad at her but then she started screaming and laughing that's the power of porsche that's the power of porsche porsche williams is unfortunately when you consider like who she aligns herself with one of the best ever to do it and so to see her align with giselle whose behavior is so kooka loo still to this day and now just like noxious. I think, you know what she needs to do? It would be a really good thing for her to be put on pause or just take a break entirely from reality TV because you're right. Sweaty is the word.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And it's giving like angsty. And I'm worried for her. Like, I'm like, you look stressed. You're stressed. And look like clockwork on Thursday. When this episode drops,
Starting point is 00:13:24 she posts a little fucking reel of her daughters. Yeah, the redeemable thing about her, her lovely girls. And babe, you know I'm going on her grid, her Insta, and commenting. Classic, once again, using your children as morality shields for your vile, disgusting behavior being televised. You made Pepsi cry. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. I am, this is unbelievable that the feud
Starting point is 00:13:47 that we are watching play out in the public is Bowen Yang and Giselle Bryant. And guess what? One person's winning. All her fucking idiot followers replying to me going,
Starting point is 00:13:58 it's giving jealous. I'm like, it's giving jealous. Your ugly, passive, jewel tones. Of what? Give it up for Sutton.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Sutton Strack. I've gone on a journey with her. Oh yeah, well, it's been a rollercoaster. It's been a rollercoaster, but guess what? Lovely, lovely woman. Well, I have the opportunity to engage with her. Let's just say that in the future, we might be teaming up at High Tops for trivia.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Was that on Watch What Happens Live that you guys, that was the first connection. It was afterwards when we, well, I think that she saw us do Crystal and Sutton. Yes. And I think that that definitely landed with the girls. Crystal has not breathed in my direction. No, didn't she?
Starting point is 00:14:35 I think she commented. She commented, you know. She said like slayed it. But I'm going, where's the follow back? Oh yeah, that's actually a huge point. Anyway. Crystal Kung Winkoff has not followed back. She's racist.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Listen to us right now. Self-hating Asian. We are, like, in it. We are literally going to wiggle our way onto main cast. And my thing is going to be, I had a career and gave it up for this. That's going to be my tagline. I had a full career, and I gave it up for this. See, I don't like this because that is a viable career, first of all.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And Candice is making a point on Ultimate Girls Trip. And I told some NBC execs, I said, Oh, you did? You got into it. Well, because Candice is like, we deserve Emmys. And I'm like, we deserve Emmy nominations. I was like, absolutely they do. Why are you guys campaigning for unstructured reality?
Starting point is 00:15:20 I think that they actually do. And I think so. When I voted for the Emmys a couple of years ago, there was like an unstructured category. And I won a few of the franchises were on it. And you know, I voted for them. They should literally just put all of them on,
Starting point is 00:15:32 put all of them on the, just the nominations ballot, not the nominee ballot. I remember Salt Lake. I think Salt Lake was not on it. And I was like, Oh, if ever there was a season of housewives that could have really broke through
Starting point is 00:15:43 the culture. But I voted for Beverly Hills the year of i think it was kathy's first year and the year of the ugly other pants and that the erica that was a great season that was a great season and i voted for it i was just like and watching candace say that i was like you know what well they nominated below deck like they nominated like all these things like why why not this start the campaign um giselle's not invited no she can't she's not a finalist well she's not a finalist i mean here's the thing you guys like there is a part of me every single time a new season of potomac starts or whenever i know giselle's going
Starting point is 00:16:18 to be involved in anything because here's the thing there is a star quality to her that is why she's synonymous with potomac that is why she's there that is why she's being discussed in this way i mean she has impact i'm gonna give the woman credit but every single time when i start a new season and i buy into that star quality and i wish to like her she proves you wrong every single time she proves you wrong it's just that you're like oh they're not even proves you're right proves you're right she proves you wrong, it's just that you're like, oh, there's no... Not even proves you wrong, proves you right. Proves you right, and then you're like, there's no growth. Yeah. There's no development. Candice we've seen go from, like, a below,
Starting point is 00:16:50 like, some, like, rando woman who walks into this group of friends, and you're like, who the fuck is this? Um, now she's, like, a legitimately wonderful singer. I mean, did you see, I think I sent you her singing the national anthem at that basketball game. Loved it. She sounded
Starting point is 00:17:06 healthy and clear and crystal clean pristine. Crystal clean pristine. Crystal clean pristine. Now. Just to chaparone of it all. I was going to take us back to chapel. She played some new songs from her album that's coming out in September, which I believe she announced at the show.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's too far away. There's one song called Coffee. Just a really simple and i know you're not a ballad queen we'll talk about it talk about it but this is a ballad that's coming out she hasn't released it yet today she released a song called kaleidoscope which i love which is also a ballad but also she's giving you so much up-tempo stomp it stuff that she can give us these ballads because it's i'm telling you that's like giving the singer-songwriter part of her. That's crucial to the package. That is her,
Starting point is 00:17:48 which is why she's going to go the distance. But there's a song called coffee. That was literally lyrically. It gave me like, Oh, communication. She is like communicating emotion in a way that is going to really connect with people.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And I'm telling you the people at her concert were in. Like people like dressing up a little bit. It was giving early Gaga vibes. It was, I'm telling you, this girl is taking it going this distance and is a finalist in the competition. She's a finalist. We're going to see you in New York for the finals.
Starting point is 00:18:21 One of the biggest nights of your life. And we actually have an announcement to make. One of the categories of the Las Culturistas Culture Awards is finalist of the year. Finalist of the year. And another category is,
Starting point is 00:18:37 of course, biggest night of your life. Oh, my God. Let's just say Las Culturistas. Biggest night of your life is one of the biggest categories's just say Las Colas. Biggest night of your life is one of the biggest categories of the night. Yeah. That is one of the
Starting point is 00:18:49 top of, what is it called? Top of the charts. Top, well, no, what are they, what are they?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Top of the pops. Top of the pops. What do they, above the mark? What do they say after everything? Oh, above the line.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Above the line. It's an above the line category. Out of a hundred categories, there will be around 10. 10. There'll be, I was going to say 20. 20. That'll be hard to keep track. 10. Wait around... 10. 10. There will be 10 above? I was going to say 20.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It would be hard to keep track. Wait, hold on. No, it's 10 above. We're getting in our ear now from our producer, Alyssa Farrah Griffin of The View, that it's going to be somewhere between 10 and 20 categories. Now, is that the Trumpy one? That's the Trumpy?
Starting point is 00:19:20 No, no, she was Trump. She was Trumpy girl. She worked for him. And then she iconically was like i can't stand this anymore like i don't know like do we trust that no i don't trust her at all i mean she's a very transparent like media personality opportunist opportunist yes but i will say like you know i and i have been sort of dipping my toe back in the view lately for some reason i don't know why yeah probably because you know, you know, Trump was arrested and, you know, all of that. And we are still waiting on that indictment to come down.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Right. It's indictment watch here at Lost College still. We're waiting. Give it to us. Got him! Yes! We got him! I just, we just came through from Melissa.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The way you and I are attuned, I was like, what are you going to say? And you knew. And you know what's good about, like, sort of having a friend that can sort of catch you going to say? And you knew. And you know what's good about sort of having a friend that can sort of catch you when you fall is that they can remember things like finalists because I had forgotten finalists. Oh, I'm record keeper for everything you say.
Starting point is 00:20:16 My girl's got the bibliography. That's for sure. For sure. Well, listen, what else? There's been an amazing new singer. One artist that we love is chapel chapel road should we announce our new segment we have a new segment an irregular segment called one artist one artist that we love and we spotlight one artist that we are loving and today our one
Starting point is 00:20:36 artist was chapel road and then we're so happy to start this and this is the thing about las culturistas and we are beginning i guess this is the beginning of our new contract. Oh, is it? We signed on the dotted line. Yes, oh my god, we did. We're here, we're queer, we're podcasting for three more years. Yes. At least. We'll make it to ten years, bitch. Oh my god. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's really amazing. I don't think the contract is for three. It's not? I think it's for one, but the option for two and three. Oh. Should we keep this in? No. Yeah, well, I think this is relatable. So many people at home don't know what their contract says. You know what I mean? There's so many people sitting listening to this in their cars
Starting point is 00:21:13 while they're shopping and they're thinking, what does my contract say? I do think that constantly. I'm like, I should read my contracts more. I don't read a thing and also, you know what? I should also read my bills. Do you? when bills come i'm just like what's the amount okay and i look the other way they could be fucking us no i am getting fucked here because my fucking landlord installed wall units in my they're like well
Starting point is 00:21:34 central heating's broken forever so you're kidding my content bills are through the fucking roof i can't stand it i simply can't stand it and you know what else i it. And you know what else I found out? So this is the thing. And I know I'm going to sort of stake a claim and start a war here right now. Start it. But in the battle of Spectrum versus Verizon Fios, I feel that there's only one finalist, and it is Verizon Fios. And there is absolutely not a discussion about that.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So I was frustrated and disappointed, to say the least, when I found out that my new apartment will be having Spectrum. I just gotta ask something. First of all, I'm so sorry. I just gotta ask something. I just gotta ask. Why is it that in the year of our
Starting point is 00:22:17 LORT 2023, it's still oh, your building's just not wired for Fios? I was hearing that 15 years ago yeah and we've not progressed at all well and the thing is like i can't even ask a follow-up question about that because i i can't pretend to even understand like what a process it is to get like fitted for fios or whatever i just know the quality of the internet is immeasurably different when you have verizon fios as opposed to Spectrum.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Spectrum be blacking out. Spectrum, I might as well be on the plane. Yeah. I might as well be on the plane patching in and out to my friends, texting them from the sky, but I'm going, sorry, on a plane right now, Wi-Fi is bad. I have to also start another war right now. Come on. And so in the war of plane Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Here we go. And here's the thing. It pains me to say this because i am a delta girl i am a delta girl i ride hard for delta i'm delta diamond fish like you and did you and chandler being delta diamond fish together pretty much is podcast canon by the way that's what we're saying yeah that's what we're saying that's that's sort of in the canon the readers know but i will say this. I flew American. The difference in the quality is immeasurable.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I think you need a bigger sample size. Because I think it was just one American. What's JetBlue giving? JetBlue is not bad. JetBlue is pretty consistent. Delta is sometimes flopping on the Wi-Fi. No, always. I'm sorry to say.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Always. And this is what I'm saying is it's like, when I was on American, suddenly I'm streaming YouTube videos in the air. I was like, not with my girl. Not with my girl. Not with my wife at home. That's why I'm sneaking out, getting this one
Starting point is 00:23:52 too. This girl on the side of American, she's giving me YouTube videos in the air. You sneaky link thing with American is the headline. I'm a sneaky link with American Airlines and that's real culture number 49. I'm a sneaky link with American Airlines and that's rule of culture number 49. I'm a sneaky link with American Airlines.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Did you know what sneaky link meant? I just, is that like an old school term? Can we look it up? I might not. What is a sneak? Yeah, urban dictionary of that shit. God, that culture, the culture of urban dictionary. Okay, sneaky link means when you're secretly,
Starting point is 00:24:21 someone you're secretly having sex with. It's just, it's a TikTok term for like sneaking out of the house. link sneaky link tiktok term it's like somewhat new but it literally is just like secret affair got it to answer your question from before of is tiktok over because you're on it now i think that tiktok improves because you're on it and we need more great minds to get on it you oh i am not bringing a great mind to it yeah but you know what though that's not for you to say and i'm also like you have to remember that does your fyp know you because i feel like
Starting point is 00:24:50 mine's after literally i've been on my burner for like two years algorithm has no idea what the fuck i like still i will say the algorithm knows what it likes oh i'll say that i'm like wow you really want me to see this one person you really want me to see this woman in the suburbs recording videos of her big dog and her small cat fighting each other yeah for me it's like they force feed me personalities and i'm like mama it's giving industry plant it's like thousand percent it's like okay they're forcing this on me literally i refuse to say names but there's one t one TikTok person that just keeps appearing on my thing. And I'm like, what am I doing?
Starting point is 00:25:29 And then, unfortunately, like, low-key, it starts to work. And I'm like, oh, yeah, there's my friend. And I'm like, oh, no. Do Katie's listen to us and go, well, I guess they're my friend. Oh, I guess here they are again. No, I don't think so, because I think it's an active decision to listen to a podcast they gotta press play they have to press play whereas on tiktok i'm telling you the algorithm just gives you what it wants to give you based on demographics but the thing is if i wanted to see this person i probably would have clicked follow so for me
Starting point is 00:26:01 the algorithm is flopping at that point because it's like yeah but algorithm i have and all you do is show me the doll and i'm not giving you any positive feedback no but then again and then i think am i now am i just like our bodies our fingers our hands are not our own on tiktok we'll be just flipping flipping and flicking and clicking you know what the solution to all of this like literally society's problems right now would be? Everyone chop off your thumb. Oh, wow. So that way, make the impulse, the habit of like scrolling, flicking, flicking, flicking, watching without- Impossible.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Impossible. Make it impossible to scroll. That's a rule of culture, number 99. The secrets of society, cut off your thumb, make it impossible to scroll. That's actually one of the great ideas I've heard. But, you know, listen, we couldn't get the vaccine to work.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Could we not? No, I'm saying we couldn't get the vaccine. We couldn't get the vaccine to work, as you know. I'm saying we couldn't get everybody on board with the vaccine. We're not gonna get everyone on board with chopping off their thumbs. That's what I meant. I'm not, guys, please do not push this. But could we fool evolution into thinking that's sort of what we want and what we need? That's not
Starting point is 00:27:09 how evolution works, babe. I would disagree. Okay, Charles Darwin over here fucking looking at me like with a finger in my face. Jesus. Jesus. I didn't know I was talking to Charles Darwin, the goddess. This reefer is hitting. Oh my god, it's so good. And good i'm telling you and you're like asking
Starting point is 00:27:26 where do you get it the answer is apparently anywhere in new york so this is what we were saying before yeah i'm walking up with my head up in the sky and all i'm seeing are smoke shops and i walk in i'm like surely they can't be selling like pre-rolls and stuff they are yeah and i said to the girl i was like this is crazy like i lived in new york like four or five years ago and this was not a thing. You couldn't do this. And she just looked at me like I was maybe the dumbest person in the world. I was the lamest, dumbest person in the world.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And the fact is, she was so much cooler than me, and she definitely rolled this one right here. We love her and thank her and worship her. But I was just like, yeah, wow. Even that being the energy, like the it's completely different the answer is it's an everyday commonplace situation yes weed is in new york you can get it but you're saying the way she looked at you was like it's just like what are you talking about shut up of course you can that's new york though that's like yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like that i'm just so used to going into a coffee shop in LA and then being like, hey, love your shirt today.
Starting point is 00:28:26 What's going on this weekend? Well, me? I'm going to the park. I'm missing LA, though. I just haven't been back in a while. Okay, clarification. I'm becoming bi-coastal. I'm not moving back to New York for wholesale. I'm becoming bi-coastal. It's about
Starting point is 00:28:42 bi-visibility. I think if not me, then who? You know what I'm saying? You can be bi-con.al it's about bi-visibility I think if not me then who you know what I'm saying you can be bi-con you and Phoebe Burgess by the way have you listened to the new Boy Genius oh absolutely
Starting point is 00:28:50 let's get into that okay cause I was literally I saw my hens that's where Matt announced finalist I was like oh my god I'm obsessed I go to bed
Starting point is 00:28:57 at like 2am I gotta get up at like 6.30 to do a 7am pickup on Friday and I put on the I give in the boy, I give in the boy genius record like a couple spins
Starting point is 00:29:07 and I was like, great, love it. It is really effective and important if you listen to an album in a state of like half consciousness. Yep. If you're groggy. So it can seep in. If you're groggy, that's actually the best time to listen to any music.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's like stoner brain kind of, or it's like be on a plane or something. Yes, I was going to say like in like a transient, like middle ground, like's like be on a plane or yes i was gonna say like in like a transient like middle ground like emotionally and physically on a plane like the boy genius hub is gonna slap the opening track which is all vocals yes i recorded on an iphone or something yeah it's it's amazing it's amazing they're incredible they honestly without you without them yes yes and i genuinely think at the end of the year we're still going to be talking about the album i think it's one of those i think it's like a contender i think it's a finalist i think that boy genius our finalists our finalists yeah i am pumped for the
Starting point is 00:29:54 lccas the lccas um i don't know what we can say at this point specifically but let's just say that there will be a nominations announcement very soon, perhaps even in a new interesting way. Oh, interesting. There is a little bit of a twist in terms of Los Colatresa's programming. Maybe there's going to be more episodes than there would be. Because contractually, I know it says that. I know contractually it says we have to do more.
Starting point is 00:30:18 But we actually, and this is my sister's idea, we are going to present you, as he said, the nominations in a very interesting way. Yes, in an interesting way that no one's really going to be able to predict. Certainly, no one can connect the dots between there's going to be more episodes and we're going to be announcing the nominations
Starting point is 00:30:38 in an interesting way. Certainly, it's still a gray area, I'd say. You can't really deduce what that could mean. You know, stay tuned. Watch this space. Sneaky links. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all?
Starting point is 00:30:56 I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip.
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Starting point is 00:31:25 My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me.
Starting point is 00:32:08 It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.
Starting point is 00:32:49 We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iheart women's sports i can't believe we haven't talked about this what taylor and joe oh yeah no i mean like i knew it
Starting point is 00:33:35 would come up this is it's just so crazy that we are really living in breakup era. Like it is. It's breakup era. The ripple effects of. Maybe it's the scandal of all. Maybe it's you know. Just cosmically what's going on. I've experienced it myself. I think you were the first drop in the pond. Certainly it had emotional ripple effects in my own life.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So who am I to say. As someone who believes that we're all connected very deeply. And I do believe that. That that didn't lead somehow cosmicallyically to Taylor and Joe's breakup. It was you, Scandaval, some other friends I know. And as of 12 hours ago when the news broke, Taylor and Joe. Where were you? And literally the first words I said when I heard the news, Will Steven and I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Co-wrote Jafar with me and Alex English. One of the greats Alex one of the greats one of the greats literally between dress and air we're like you know making changes
Starting point is 00:34:28 writing writing writing and he goes my sister just texted me this he showed me this when I literally for a split second thought that he was
Starting point is 00:34:34 going to say that like someone was dead we nuked Mars or something because of his reaction yes I was like something bad
Starting point is 00:34:41 just happened yes like death is involved yeah and I see the headline taylor and joe done called it quits after six years i gasped i said where were you when you found out taylor and joe broke up i was writing my jafar update with will steven yeah i actually was leaving lunch house and i we went to go see this is actually perfect oh my god go see the
Starting point is 00:35:01 thanksgiving play starring darcy carden and i'm going to get into it in just a moment. A finalist. And then I had a happy hour with iconic finalist Patrick Rogers. A finalist. We had some oysters, a couple beers even. I had little tiny clam chowders.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It was really a chic happy hour. That sounds dreamy. The place is called The Mermaid. It's on 10th Avenue and 24th Street. Highly recommend. The happy hour vibe was immaculate. And I leave and I'm walking and I get a text from, of course, Jared,
Starting point is 00:35:32 who's number one Swifty. And he texted me and Patrick House. They're both finalists. And we're all on a group chat together. Finalists often gather to be in group chats. You call yourself a finalist. Absolutely. You are a finalist. You know what? Yeah. You are a finalist. Come on.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, I'm actually, and you're a finalist and I'm a finalist. We have to say that about each other. And I hope that you listening out there, that you're living this day, and I want you to listen to this very clearly with the belief, the firm knowledge that you are a finalist.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You have to identify as a finalist in order to behave and live through life as a finalist. It starts with the identity. Hear me now. Katie, you're a finalist in order to behave and live through life as a finalist it starts with the identity hear me now katie you're a finalist period now understand this is when i saw that taylor swift and joe had broken up and i immediately started contacting my sources and said do we have any intel do we have any intel what was what i heard oh my god through the grapevine is that it was very much her decision and that it wasn't dramatic, like they said, at least on her end, but that we are moving forward in time and that no one has to worry about her emotional state. That's what I had heard, is that she is doing fine and well and the tour is going to continue to be wonderful. And this has been a thing that was like sort of done already. And she's not moved on,
Starting point is 00:36:48 but like, we don't have to be concerned. But there was a change in the set list. Yes. From Invisible String to The One. And when I, I just kind of thought at the time, like,
Starting point is 00:37:00 oh, she just is committed to making every show different, which I respected. Me too. But now if you look at the clues. How is gonna sing so much of her music that i mean like listen okay of my heart is that one in the set list because i would love that it's not but i love it king of my heart is like oh my god wow now i'm all of a sudden like realizing it's emotional there's so much music that she has that i remember connecting to at a certain point and like i remember i can't
Starting point is 00:37:25 even listen to those songs now i can't listen to mastermind i can't listen to like king of my heart is hard honestly death by a thousand cuts has been slapping lately right but my thing though is like to have experienced it and put it into so much of her music because it's like reputation on is like joe that's like a huge chunk of her career her discography yeah and like i guess like a lot of folklore and evermore too because they worked on it together right that's a long one like i that's what we take for granted that how they've been long together for a really long time i thought they were gonna last they really did it's breakup era the fuck i, it's been weird times. But also, here's the thing about breakup era.
Starting point is 00:38:08 It's truly a transformative moment. Honestly, I was thinking to myself the other day. I think I even said to one of our friends, I was like, I rotate between wishing I had never gone through this at all and not like engaged in a situation where i could get hurt and then also being like no i'm actually really really really grateful to have gone through like a painful thing because i do think it like you know it adds to your emotional toolkit it's like knowledge is power about like the things that you can go through and um so that's like the thing about breakup error that i would say is that it's not necessarily a sad thing of course it's like hard thing but like you have to believe that like you're everyone will come out of this a better person like for example i was seeing like you know i guess ariana
Starting point is 00:38:56 maddox is gonna go on dancing with the stars i'm like good girl have the moment have the moment use this hard thing you're going through to empower yourself and push through literally Literally, what you're describing when you're like, I would have rather not gone through that is, like, eternal sunshine. Mm-hmm. And, like, the whole point of that movie is that, like, even if you were to just, like, wipe that from your mind, your memory, your experience, like, there is this complete void in your life. There's no way around it. Yeah, and it's also, like, that movie saying, it's like, you can try to not live, but if you're going to be out here living and like change is going to happen, like hard things are going to happen. Like you can't just, you know, be selective about living life.
Starting point is 00:39:38 God, I got to watch that movie again. It's so good. It's so cliche how much, how that is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's not even cliche because the reason it's cliche is because it actually is good. It's so cliche how much, how that is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's not even cliche, because the reason it's cliche is because it actually is good, and it's high quality, and that's the thing about hashtag basic, is that sometimes when people like something,
Starting point is 00:39:53 it's because it's good. It's because it's good. And that's actually real culture number four. Sometimes when people like something, it's because it's good. And that might be something we have to grapple with. Now, speaking of liking some things that are good, talk about the Thanksgiving play starring finalist Darcy Carter.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Well, here's the thing. If you go see the Thanksgiving play, you are going to basically see Darcy Carter do all the things you want to see her do. She's hilarious. She's charming as fuck. She looks gorgeous. She is having fucking fun. And the cast is incredible.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's Scott Foley, iconley icon hot icon hilarious in the show chris sullivan amazing actor he's from this is us he's just got like such like uh like he's just vibrant and a star yes and the true icon her name is katie finneran she has won two tonys she won for promises promises and noises off she is incredible she's sort of the lead of the show even though it's um a four-person ensemble she's like a real theater actress and she is so funny and just incredible and i can't really say enough about the play like it's not what you think it's going to be it's called the thanksgiving play i really didn't know anything about it it's about these four think it's going to be. It's called The Thanksgiving Play. I really didn't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's about these four... Teachers. There are four white people. A couple of them are teachers. And they're trying to put on an elementary school play about Thanksgiving because one of them has gotten a grant to do that. Like, you know, money in order to, like,
Starting point is 00:41:18 responsibly put on, like, a socially conscious Thanksgiving play with elementary school students. And the play is just about, like, white people trying to negotiate and rationalize creating art that's not their experience. And it is a very, it's like a social farce. And like a satirical farce in a way. And it just is so, it goes in really fun places. It's funny the entire time. And it's smart. It was written by Larissa Fast Horse, who is a Native American playwright
Starting point is 00:41:45 who is really, really, really talented and somebody to watch. And I have to say, I recommend this. And Darcy, you're a star. And the thing is, guess what, people? She will be back on the pod next month. I can't, and we're going to all get in the same room. That was kind of a requirement.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That was the term for all three of us. It was going to happen a couple months ago didn't work out because we couldn't get in the same location yeah that is priority number one and i see you readers waiting at the stage door for her and i met a couple readers in the audience last night and like i'm happy and proud of the readers for going out and seeing theater specifically this it's great and then i just want to button one other theatrical thing which was I'm ready to say my thoughts about Sweeney Todd. Here we go. So as you all know,
Starting point is 00:42:30 I saw it in previews and I said, I'm reserving critique. It's very smart of you. Cause that is literally the previous. Do not judge a show by previews. Go. And here's what I would also say about previews. No,
Starting point is 00:42:41 don't judge. Don't judge a show in previews, but I will also throw this out there. And I understand the financial reality of Broadway and the way they make money back is what it is, but also a little annoying to charge regular ticket prices and really high ticket prices for preview performances. That's all I'll say.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That's all I'll say. That being said, I went back to the show now that it's running. I'm blown away by it. I thought it was fantastic. I'm really happy I waited because they worked some things out. And the headlines are like, Josh Groban's voice. You've never heard a score this beautiful sung this beautifully. It's Groban.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It's Groban, babe. And I will say he's one of those voices you kind of take for granted. Like, oh, of course, Josh Groban's amazing. When you hear it live, it's really just an instrument. It is beautiful. It is so resonant and so healthy and clean. But he's also able to inject some of that anger and that madness that Sweeney Todd has, which I think was his challenge, was finding a way to incorporate the, you know, real, like, from hell depths of despair that Sweeney is in and put that in his voice while singing the music because we've heard it done so well in the past. And was really, really, really happy with his performance.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And Annalee Ashford, she's just one of the funniest actresses probably that's like working on broadway right now i mean like in theater in general and at large like also stupid but funny in interviews yeah she's great just so great so charming she'd be fun to have on the podcast actually and we'd love to have you girl we'd love to have you girl i have to say like a little priest was fantastic just watching them go back and forth. Cinematography, like, it was gorgeous. It's exactly what I said I wanted, which is a high-budget, big-scale Sweeney Todd. They did that. For me, if I have critiques, and I'm not going to, like, not name any names, there's just some casting that's not exactly right.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I wonder if we needed to stunt cast everything because you know we had josh and annalee top lining but overall like the ensemble is amazing and some of the supporting work here is unbelievable ruthie and miles do you know about her wait i know the name ruthie and miles want a tony for the king and i she is yes the beggar woman. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh my god. Best in show. We saw her. We saw. Yeah. Okay. I'm saying give the Tony nomination to Ruthie Ann Miles for her performance as the beggar woman. We've never seen
Starting point is 00:45:13 a beggar woman like this. She's really scary. Her voice sounds amazing. She's like, she plays all the turns in that character. Especially having seen it twice. Really appreciating her work this is my favorite musical y'all so the beggar woman to be this big of a sleigh is major i love also beetle bamford his name is john rapson unbelievable the judge the guy who played the
Starting point is 00:45:35 judge turpin was amazing like there's moments in this that you're just like holy fuck this is the most beautiful score in the world and it's being done well. I say it's worth it to go. If you can see Sweeney Todd, go see it. It's really, I'm happy that I waited because the kinks that I wanted worked out, got worked out. And we're dealing with a good Sweeney Todd production. Now, this is great, perfect, conscious theater audience mindset. I think you have to be honest when you're talking about this stuff
Starting point is 00:46:03 just because it is so fucking expensive. So honestly, if't good i'm not fucking coming on here and telling the readers to go buy a ticket to it but i'm also saying just like yeah oh i'm seeing something in previews hmm let me wait yes you owe it to yourself to yeah to like everyone working on these shows let me wait yeah to say that and you know what the thing too is it's like i'm just not interested in hearing like reactionary review because then it becomes a thing of like oh can my review get shared or talked about the most that's like review culture to me is toxic but that's how like everything is like yeah but yeah well but it's also important and we've talked about it on this podcast how like critical culture like, and we've talked about it on this podcast, how critical culture, like critic culture, we've talked about. When it's done well and it's done responsibly, it can be a very useful tool.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I don't know if you, oh God, the guy who ran the New York Times. A.O. Scott. A.O. Scott. So he was on the Daily, and he's leaving. He's retiring. Did you listen to that episode? I didn't listen to the episode, but I heard that he is basically like, I'm not doing this anymore because it's, yeah. But a legend, A.O. Scotto scott no the legend he said something really
Starting point is 00:47:07 interesting about being a critic he said i feel like your job as the critic is to be there alongside the viewer and be like a watching partner and like a tool that they can use to help understand why something is good or working absolutely and like it's almost like a companion like a critic yes yes and i feel like it's helpful to look at it through that lens and not like, here's why this didn't work and I'm being a bitch about it, which I've definitely been guilty of. I'm sure you've been guilty of. Absolutely. Especially on this podcast. But that's not helpful.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I would say, like, ultimately what you need to know is should you go or not? And you should go. I express why. Yes. Critics should walk alongside and not get out in front. Yes. and not get out in front yes don't get out in front don't get out in front because first of all don't save out there there's a car coming period queen a.o scott is a finalist a.o scott is a finalist we celebrate him a.o scott might be getting a lifetime achievement award i just spit out my coffee everywhere he didn't i just did a spit take. No.
Starting point is 00:48:05 When I heard Bowen say that, I spit and- He swallowed it. He swallowed it just fine. No choking. He swallowed it just fine. Wait, speaking of critic movie, you had a lovely experience
Starting point is 00:48:17 at the Super Mario Brothers movie. Oh my God! I need you to tell me all about it. This, there's been so much culture that's happened. This is another one of those episodes, but the vibe is much better than the last time we did this. I literally have to be like, I have not had any time or emotional energy to consume.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You need to tell me everything that's going on. This is what's iconic about the Super Mario Brothers film. It's basically like you are playing the game, but in a way that's very tongue-in-cheek. It's a lot funnier than I thought it was going to be. and also it's like the chris pratt of it all is not even the big no you actually kind of get it because they do this thing where it's like the people that have seen it know what i'm talking about but the characters are conscious it's like more ironic yeah and they yeah yeah so the they can't make a movie out of that no and so they in a funny way
Starting point is 00:49:05 sort of like ground that yeah and then they i don't know i really liked luigi in the movie it made me realize i fucking stand luigi and now i'm gonna play as luigi more that's amazing yeah i actually respect luigi because i actually identify as luigi and i did think about this you are sort of mario and i'm'm Luigi and I'm obsessed with my life. Wait, like Luigi is obsessed with his life? I'm obsessed with my life as Luigi. No, you're not Luigi. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Luigi is a star too. This is what the movie proves. I don't think either of us are Mario and Luigi. For now, if that's like a good model for you, I love, but I think you... I'm just saying I identify with Luigi. Like the things Luigi goes through, like being scared, like sort of being like he gets thrown into the the crazy world and then when i
Starting point is 00:49:50 see him go through the things he goes through i'm with luigi and all i'm saying is i think luigi is kind of all of us in a way that that we've never really experienced but i do feel that you are a mario figure and i think that's beautiful and me as luigi i'm kind of like looking at luigi in the movie and being like slay yeah and so now what i'm saying is like i think in the past i've always been like i'm not gonna play as luigi why would you play as luigi you're gonna see me out here playing as luigi now because i believe i'm gonna say this okay i think luigi is queer tell everything. I think he's a gay man. What makes you say?
Starting point is 00:50:27 The overcoming narrative. Honey, we all overcome. Not like this. No. No. Not everyone overcomes like Luigi. You just shot me the most conviction. Not like this.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Not like this. Yeah. Believe it. No, I left the movie loving luigi i'll also say there's another iconic thing about the film they give peach nothing but nothing i've heard but i heard you say can i say that yeah and yeah makes it work she first of all i can't believe her agent sent her this script and they were like hey yeah this is great and we have no notes about what it is and that she read it and was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:05 But I'm so happy that she did. On the page, literally, these are Peach's lines. It's like, hi, I'm Peach. I will protect us. Come with me. Are you ready? I don't know about that. I'll go get help.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I'll get help. I will lead us again. Well, the first thing you have to do is pass the test it's literally they give her nothing but in a purposeful way that you must be like they had to do this i think maybe and and so part of me actually kind of thinks it's incredible that she's nothing because it's and maybe that's the point because anya is giving it so much like that you're fooled into thinking it's a characterization but but it is not. Of course they do the boring thing they do with, like, girl characters in movies, which is they made her, like, a badass.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Like, she doesn't wear necessarily a dress when she fights. Like, when she slays and fights, she wears, like, a pantsuit, and she rides a motorcycle, and it's like, oh, badass girl boss peach. But I almost think it would be funnier if she was a little bit like i don't want to do this you know what i mean if she was like a little bit more of like a girl yeah and that's problematic for me to say maybe but i'm just saying it's boring what they've done like the girl boss of the basic hinting at girl bossification but no actual work being done to me is fucking lame as hell yeah yeah yeah because they give every other character like a comedic hook uh-huh but not not her in fact then that must be it so that must be it but it's not
Starting point is 00:52:32 clear enough there's a scene where like because she's a human and she's amongst toads so it's kind of some question of like why that is yeah and so mario's like maybe you're from my world and she goes we can never know well yeah well because you guys are talking about this like they ask her peach where are you from she goes nowhere i don't know i don't know yeah that's that and they're like well you must be from somewhere and she's like i am not engaging in this conversation so so that is she meredith marks she she meredith marks but for her to be like i don't know where i'm where i come from is that tells me that that is very intentionally her thing yeah her hook in this movie is she has no story yeah
Starting point is 00:53:10 she has no story no story that she's not asked a question about herself outside of that and then when she is there is no answer it's very julio torres character yeah it's like i'm a vessel and maybe that was purposeful i just wish it had been a little bit more like comedically beat in because I do kind of like that as a choice, like that the girl character, there is nothing there as a comedic choice. I like that. Is this problematic? I don't know,
Starting point is 00:53:35 but I think if it were used in a comedic way and you could give Anya a little bit more like nothing to work with, then it would have been funny. And I think kind of like, it's, it's no, it's third wave i think kind of like it's it's no it's third wave it's like it's third wave like let women be fucking women be nothing be nothing you know some women are nothing some men are nothing and bees somehow out there are nothing i am telling you you meet nothings all the time you meet nothings all the time i'm not saying you and i'm saying like there are nothings of every type oh there's nothings all the time. I'm not saying you mean, I'm saying like, there are nothings of every type. Oh, there's nothings
Starting point is 00:54:06 across the globe. As of Rural Culture number 58, there's nothings across the globe. None of you are nothings. If you're listening to this right now, if you're going to hear me right now, you are a finalist. You're not one of these nothings. You're not cut.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You're not in danger of being cut. You're moving on. You're moving on, and we're going to see you in in new york hey so don't tell the others but produce and i were talking oh my god do you think how many times do you think that happened on like american idol early days they're like hey kelly hey just it's not a big deal don't you it doesn't matter everything that happens this week it doesn't matter Nicole hey come here Nicole Nicole just Tamira's out
Starting point is 00:54:49 she's out Tamira's out Tamira's gonna be the upset and of course they called Nikki McKibbin Nicole Nicole McKibbin Nicole Nicole
Starting point is 00:54:55 she's out oh sorry Nikki right right we'll get it we'll get it Tamira's out I know I know it's shocking
Starting point is 00:55:01 just go with us just go with us cause you're going to the finals hey hey hey, hey. Kimberly. Kimberly Locke. Come here. Come here, Kimberly Locke.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Just quick. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. Trenise is gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's going to be March. Or tomorrow of this season. Is that racist?
Starting point is 00:55:18 Well, it's 2002. Oh. It's 2002. It's okay. Okay. We can get away with it for a few more years. Yeah. She's out.
Starting point is 00:55:23 She's out. You're the girl who's going to the finals we think it's gonna be either you Ruben and Clay no it's gonna definitely
Starting point is 00:55:32 be you and Clay and then randomly Ruben and here's the thing I know it seems like that means the top two definitely have to be Ruben and Clay just don't worry about it
Starting point is 00:55:40 yet don't worry about it yet you can focus on doing a great job because we're in the finals we're in the final list We're in the final list. Just give it to them. Just give it to them tonight.
Starting point is 00:55:48 What are you singing? Love that choice. Somewhere Over the Rainbow. Oh, for the third time? Oh, yeah. That's good for you. That's good. Because it's going to remind them of the last time.
Starting point is 00:55:55 She sang Somewhere Over the Rainbow three times on that season. That's actually something that never gets talked about. It's the sheer volume of Somewhere Over the Rainbow from Kimberly Locke to the point where it's actually ingrained in culture at large. something that never gets talked about is the sheer volume of somewhere over the rainbow from kimberly lock to the point where it's actually ingrained in culture at large it's not we're not talking about it enough no but it's it's a relic and that's what relics have to have happen is they have to be uncovered you have to be uncovered excavation it's a cultural relic that's the
Starting point is 00:56:22 kimberly lock sang somewhere over the rainbow three times on season two on American Idol. Yeah. And listen, did it work? Kinda. She made it all the way. Until she didn't. Until she didn't. But look, Eighth World Wonder impacted. Let's never forget the impact of Eighth World Wonder. Are we singing Eighth World Wonder as
Starting point is 00:56:39 the opening of the Las Codrillas Culture Awards? We have an announcement to make. One of the nominees for Record of the Year is East Coast Culture Awards. We have an announcement to make. One of the nominees for Record of the Year is Eighth World Wonder by Kimberly Locke! Wow. Eighth World Wonder did not make the 300 songs of the Great Global Songbook,
Starting point is 00:56:57 unfortunately. That doesn't mean it's not a nominee for Record of the Year, because we're talking about this year. Okay, so the 300 songs of the Great Global Songbook was of all time like we're talking about for this year record of the year is about for this year that's why a throw wonder by kimberly lock is nominated because we're talking about this year what's what's trending now i think about her iconically chunky vibrato.
Starting point is 00:57:27 She always had a singer's voice. Your love's... Your love's like summer rain. Washing my doubts away. It has to be one of the greatest pop songs ever. And that's why it's nominated. You know what else we heard earlier?
Starting point is 00:57:45 I turned to my sister and I said, this is the only song I ever want to hear. Pieces of Me by Ashley Simpson. And at this time, we have an announcement. One of the nominees for record of the year at the Las Codrisas Culture Awards is Pieces of Me by Ashley Simpson.
Starting point is 00:58:03 So that's already two songs from like Bush era radio. I wasn't thinking about it like Bush era radio because I don't have to go back to that time because he committed war crimes. I understand. But to hear you say that makes me realize that it's true. But it's okay. I think there's... I think it's okay. I don't want to do like token
Starting point is 00:58:20 odd song, token, you know, it's like, no, we're not doing this. You know, there can be two nominees from everything everywhere all at once and best supporting actress. 100%. And I think that no one would even dispute it. I think what people are failing to remember is that we're not, this isn't time specific in terms of all time or any specific era.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It's record of the year this year. That's why pieces of me by Ashley Simpson specific era. It's record of the year this year. That's why Pieces of Me by Ashley Simpson is nominated. What's trending now? I know I don't have to say it because I know that the readers out there and the Katie's out there, they get it because you guys are finalists and you're still, I think from the last time I said,
Starting point is 00:58:59 it's still operating with that energy. I hope. I hope. But they get it. They get it. But not everyone gets it because some people cursory listen to this podcast. Some people are like, yeah, sometimes I hope. But they get it. They get it. But not everyone gets it because some people cursory listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Some people are like, yeah, sometimes I listen. If I see it's just you guys or if I see it's a guest I like, sometimes I'll listen because I don't love every episode. I don't like when it feels like a press stop.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Don't tell me that. But people be saying that. People do be saying that. I go, okay, well, I'm going to go get ready for my sluck performance. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I will also say this. Like, yeah, we check the Reddit. We see you guys talking. I love the folks on the Reddit. but sometimes they do be jumping to conclusions. Conclusions get jumped to. Okay, so let's just dispel some rumors right now. I went on the Reddit and it was like, well, it seems like Matt didn't like Brian Jordan Alvarez. I fucking loved Brian Jordan Alvarez. I was obsessed. And then someone else was like, why? They loved him i think and i was like yeah this fall on bravo it's time to turn up think you've seen it all i don't think you've been a good friend to me lately we're friends like that who needs enemies you ain't seen nothing yet
Starting point is 00:59:59 cheers to being dramatic with the real housewives of potomac oh my gosh can i take this in it's gonna be amazing new york city everyone is a gossip no one gets a happier life salt lake city Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer and the desperate part, that made a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened,
Starting point is 01:01:04 I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ,
Starting point is 01:01:23 three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeartWomen Sports. Okay, so we're just back from asking Doug to have cut something out. So we had something we realized we wanted cut out. If that doesn't raise any suspicion as we talk about how, you know, sometimes you guys jump to conclusions and then we omit full audio.
Starting point is 01:02:49 There's lots of sort of rumors on the podcast the podcast lots of rumors and things to confirm things to deny wait okay did i say everything that's good about mario it was so fun but i mean i was just laughing because they gave peach nothing but anya is a slay in it oh my god she does a great job we have not seen her flop no also you know what's great about the mario movie it gives you everything you would want about the mario movie it gives you everything you would want from a mario movie in terms of referencing all the games like it references mario party it references mario kart it references like the rpg type mario movies oh my are you kidding what i mean by it references is that it like acts as if no totally that's all you need that's fan service is literally doing the bare minimum
Starting point is 01:03:25 yeah i mean i'll say this i'm gonna compliment the writer and i actually waited to see who the screenwriter was his name is matthew fogel he killed it it was really funny my only note was i just wish that the peach thing was more clear in either direction totally totally totally but i do think it's enough for like moms who are taking their daughters to it to like on a basic level to be like oh yeah they made peach not just like someone that has to be rescued right she has agency she like kicks booty yeah um i just wish it was as her character was as funny as the rest of the movie of course but maybe it was an it was a studio note maybe i don't know who knows um we can never know actually we can never know all you see is what's on screen that's actually so true and i will say and i'm only saying this because
Starting point is 01:04:03 i'm stoned, Jafar hit harder at dress. Jafar hit harder at dress rehearsal and sometimes that's just how it goes and sometimes you walk away from a show on Saturday and you go, I wish the dress version was up on YouTube. Did you feel the dress audience was stronger than the live audience?
Starting point is 01:04:18 Well, because I think the dress audience is standby usually. Oh, yeah. I used to go to dress all the time. Yeah. And usually it's like, people are there to see JoBros. Right. to go to dress all the time. Yeah. And usually it's like, people are there to see Joe bros. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:28 People are there to see the musical. Yes. Yes. That audience is going to be into Jafar. Got it. Got it. Got it. I got it.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I'm saying generationally. Yes. They love Jafar. Generationally. They love Jafar. They grew up with her. They grew up with her. Some of these girls,
Starting point is 01:04:40 I think we're watching like, cause of course a large Gen Z population watches the show live on Saturday night. I think that they were watching it and being like, who the fuck is this crazy lady that no one is playing? Who's this crazy lady? Who is this woman? It was so funny, though. I will say Jafar took me for a ride. Loved her.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Loved that girl. And I really did, like, I thought it was calling out the thing which is so true about disney is that it is all gays so it's insane that we're even in this position in the first place where the disney corporation at any point wouldn't have just been like yeah of course like this is something we're gonna ride hard about like they had at some point given those that money to those politicians that supported it of course so that just the whole thing like the whole like premise of this whole debate they're in about like one being right and one being wrong like it started in hell so now that it's like it's just these two sort of big old corporations like which you know
Starting point is 01:05:36 desantis is essentially one just fighting and it feels crazy because ultimately all we're talking about is a bunch of gays pressing go on a rollercoaster button, hun. And that's how it works. And the gays are literally... You're talking about the gay cast members at Disney who are... Yes, I'm talking about the girls who are making the pizzas. I'm talking about the girls who are standing out
Starting point is 01:05:57 in front of the rides. I'm talking about the girl who's saying, hey, let's see if little mama is tall enough to ride this ride. These are the gays. These are the queers. Like, it's... Disney little mama is tall enough to ride this ride. These are the gays. These are the queers. Like, Disney should be supporting the queers because the queers support them. And so we have to stand against DeSantis.
Starting point is 01:06:15 We have to be pro-business, girl. I didn't realize. For some reason, I didn't realize what he looked like. He looks like a waterlogged teddy bear. You know what I mean? It's unhealthy. Yeah, there's something about him. He looks like it's likeged teddy bear. You know what I mean? It's unhealthy. Yeah, there's something about him. It's like a picture of unhealth.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And it's like all these Republicans, they all look so road hard and put away wet by life. I'm like, what is going on? Who's looking at these people and being aspirational? These people look drained. The blood vessels underneath the dermis. There's no life in their bodies. Marjorie Taylor Greene looks like a corpse.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yeah. All these men look like corpses. They're ugly and rotted from the inside out. And I'm like, oh, God. But don't you agree? They're ugly. Yeah. Not to be like pejorative about their looks aesthetically,
Starting point is 01:07:01 but these are ugly people. No. We've been new. Okay. Well. Who's the hottest republican oh remember but they did that they did that for years like you know get letting paul ryan get away with fucking bullshit and garbage because like i don't know it gave like a coach sure energy sure sure cares oh my god remember when like this pod we would like start off this pod with like oh aaron shock again like you like at this point like who cares that was a big moment in our we had a conflict about that it wasn't real it wasn't real well i was being really no you were right
Starting point is 01:07:36 no i wasn't so we'll just be we'll just be transparent about it this was years ago no no no we don't have to do it oh okay go ahead i don't know i don't have to do it. Oh, okay. Go ahead. I don't know. I don't have to do it at all. All it was was I was following Aaron Schock on Instagram because I was, you know, someone that hadn't, quote unquote, examined that. And so you saw that I was following Aaron Schock on Instagram and he goes, you need to examine that. And I remember being like, oh, that's where examine that started. That's where examine that started.
Starting point is 01:08:01 It was Aaron Schock. Aaron Schock. Oh, my God. You go into me, you need to examine that and you were 100 right but also it's it's there's no need to examine it it's like people no there is a need to examine it like why are you following someone harmful just because they're aesthetically looking like that good then they got you babe you can't be like mad next time when someone like charming manipulative and handsome is evil and fucks the world like you were a part of it it is is something to examine, 100%.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Hey, look. What would I do without my girl? I turned to you last night and said, I am just so overjoyed to see my sister. We had a fun little evening. It was good. And that after-party spot was good. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:08:42 It was fun loving you. Oh, my God. Wait, I normally never do this. What? I was good. It was fun. It was fun. Love and new. Oh, my God. Wait. I normally never do this. What? I was talking. I was talking. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I was like milling around the party. I got to meet and have a little moment with Drew Barrymore. She was there? She was there. And it was so special. Oh, my God. I love that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I'll paint the full picture. You know, I go and sit next to Lauren just to check in and to talk. You know, we like to sit next to Lauren just to check in and to talk. I, you know, I, you know, we like to check in. Of course. With Daddy Boss.
Starting point is 01:09:11 With Daddy Boss. Who comes over but Drew. Oh, she's such a light. And she reaches out a hand to Lauren. And goes, I just want to say, I'm not going to do like the impression,
Starting point is 01:09:20 but this is just like literally, this is, these are the words that came out of her mouth and you can't help it sound a little bit, a little bit like Drew. Yeah, because she's i just thank you
Starting point is 01:09:26 so much for having me this is one of those moments where i think everything in life is going so perfectly this is the first night out i've had in so long thank you so much i love you thank you thank you to lauren she said that oh i love it we loved having you he's probably known her since she was a baby child. She hosted when she was a child. didn't she host at like five or six years old or something?
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah. Insane. And then she turns to me and she's, and then she was just like, and blah, blah, blah. And then I just had to be like, Drew,
Starting point is 01:09:57 this is really surreal. I adore you so much. She's a superstar. She is major. And I will say, like when I was on her show to promote my special special not only was she that nice and that warm but also like had clearly at least checked in and became really familiar with what i was there and like we had like a whole conversation about it and she had specific things to say about it very kind a great host you
Starting point is 01:10:21 can tell really cares and when i was there ross matthews was there too because he's on her show all the time and i remember i turned to him and i'm like wow she really is like a dream huh and he was like she's the best and it's like beyond because she is also while simultaneously being a really fun and good co-worker she's also drew barrymore let that sit yeah she's like one of the biggest stars of the past 50 years for sure and i feel really comfortable saying that she is an icon absolutely and she also like cares a lot about the show and like is that kind is that kind but and a hugger and hugged my mother i got to get like a picture did i ever show you this i'm freaking me katrina drew barrymore and ross matthews took a picture together and it was giving
Starting point is 01:11:06 family of four first of all and my mother there's a picture of my i have to show you the picture there's a picture of my mother hugging drew and my mother is smiling so big and i'm like yeah because monoculture drew barrymore everybody knows who that is and loves her she's a finalist and she has been since the age of five period let that sink in they put her on the nepo baby matrix where it was like people who transcend like you kind of forget that they even cares they've like really proven time and time again that like they are so so so indelible yeah but would you rather not have her yeah it's like you'd be a fool to say no you're not saying no it's drew barrymore and there was a time when i was growing up when she was like by far my favorite actress too like i would just die for any time she was in
Starting point is 01:11:55 anything i mean like all those movies are iconic she's effortless i went home after 50 first dates yeah i was like in the eighth grade. No, seventh grade. I remember like the emotional state I was in. I was like devastated by that movie. Oh, yeah. I was like, Drew Barrymore fucked me up for life. Fucked me up for life. Also, have you ever seen Grey Gardens?
Starting point is 01:12:19 Of course. I mean, it's so good. She won the Emmy. She won the Emmy. No, no, no. She won the Screen Actors Guild good. Drew, she won the Emmy. She won the Emmy. No, no, no. She won the Screen Actors Guild Award and Jessica Lange won the Emmy. Sorry. And I remember being like, oh, they probably could have given that one to Drew.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I know, they could have given it to Drew. I forget who won. I'm sure they deserved it. It was, no, it was Jessica. It was Jessica Lange. Oh, they were nominated in the same, oh. They were nominated in the same category and Jessica won the Emmy. And I believe Drew had won the Golden Globe and the SAG and it was like maybe she'd win
Starting point is 01:12:43 the Emmy. Love that they both won something. Yeah. Love that. We love the spreading of the wealth. The spreading of the wealth. But, you know, it just felt like, I'll give her the Emmy. Drew.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Drew. Oh, my God. And also, never forget Ever After, which just experienced an anniversary. And did you see, I don't know, Melanie Linsky was on. Oh, so, so nice. I'm hearing about what's happening on Yellow Jackets. You're out again again there's no way
Starting point is 01:13:06 i get it but i am in awe of and have so much respect for it i just don't think i could watch it i went back to season one just to like watch the melanie scenes and i was like damn yeah she is so i just can i just say melanie linsky interviews on youtube better than any asmr i mean she's again a legend in the moment literally going back here's the thing about melanie linsky it doesn't matter what the task at hand is she's going to give you a 10 a 10 a 10 like in any function i've never seen anything like it i've never seen anything like this melanie linsky is a finalist she is a finalist she has been for years she's been a finalist since heavenly creatures she's been a finalist for years she's been a finalist through
Starting point is 01:13:56 sweet home alabama she's been a finalist in her recent last of us appearance. Last of Us. Fucking don't look up. Two and a half men. Don't go sit for Melanie Linsky if you're not ready for a 10. If you're not ready for a 10, just get out. And here's maybe the thing is it's like Yellow Jackets. Like I'm so ready for the 10. But not that kind of 10. But not this kind of 10. It's just not my genre.
Starting point is 01:14:21 But the thing is like. What have you heard? What have you heard? And her giving a 10 probably heightens everything, which I'm certain it does. And therefore, I've just heard that... Spoiler alert for the last episode of Yellow Jackets. Please.
Starting point is 01:14:33 And have you watched it already? I've not watched the one that just aired this week. Okay, then I can't say what happened because it's a huge spoiler. I know the thing... There's a thing that happens with a fire. The cannibals be cannibaling. Yes, that is... At this point, I think that is generally...
Starting point is 01:14:48 It's been leading up to this the whole time. Right, and it finally has become that. And the way they do it is really interesting. Yeah. I was like, of course I should have seen this coming. It was really smart. Very smart. I would say very smart.
Starting point is 01:15:03 That was really... The fact that this season is choosing to start off coming out swinging in this way is so interesting to me. Because in the present day, the four women are kind of spread out, which I'm like, all right, I'm going to follow this for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I do love it when they're all together. I personally love... My favorite parts of last season was when all four women in the modern day were together. Well, who doesn't want four actresses at the top of their game tearing it up? Truly. It was giving me Desperate Housewives.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Love. It was like full on, like it is Lost meets Desperate Housewives. Yes, but with the- Showtime edge. With that Showtime edge. And I'm really excited to see where the season goes. Well, I was talking to Liv when they were on,
Starting point is 01:15:41 I haven't seen Jasmine in a while, but I was talking to Liv because they were on John Lovett's show with me. Oh, yes, yes. And I was asking them backstage, I was like, so this season is gnarlier than the last season? And they were like, absolutely. And they were like, yeah, end of episode two is going to be a moment. It's a moment.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Oh, no. Towards the end of the season, I think it's like they said like episode six and ten or something. Like there's more moments that are even further than that like by the end of the second season it's like fucking rip-roaring and you can't do that you personally not roger it's not it's i'm not yeah i'm just saying and you i totally get it yeah but i support and i think go off. But it's just not how I want to spend an hour. I get it. I totally get it.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I wish I wasn't like this as I gaze off. I don't think you need to change a thing. See, this is when I question if I'm a finalist. Matt. I'm so upset. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm weeping.
Starting point is 01:16:42 It's been so hard. Hearing you say that you have doubts about being a finalist is shaking my core. I'm weeping. It's been so hard. Hearing you say that you have doubts about being a finalist is shaking the core. I won't accept. No, I'm a finalist. You are the finalist! Thank you, Queen. You are likewise.
Starting point is 01:16:55 What is going to be our big finalist moment when we go to Disney World? Do you think it's going to be Tron? Is Tron a finalist? You did it in China. I did it in China at this this point, seven years ago. Wow. And I still remember it like it was yesterday. I can still see the China.
Starting point is 01:17:12 The China. The China had never been used. The China had never been used. Titanic was called. The ship of dreams. And it was. It really was. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You've told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jellyroll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story
Starting point is 01:18:08 from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not,
Starting point is 01:19:19 we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s**t we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby and iHeart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us
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Starting point is 01:20:03 It's time for sort of the finalest, F-i-n-a-l-e-s-t the final est part of any episode of lost culture east that's the podcast with matt rogers and bowen yang which you know is the current reigning best podcast award winner from the iheart podcast awards the podcast has received critical acclaim and been cited in academic work for the host insight into the entertainment industry and is probably perhaps best known for its segment i don't think so honey which you know at one time did have a sold out national tour this is a 60 second segment that we do on every episode wherein the hosts absolutely drag destroy and deconstruct um things in the culture that need a dragging to have another D.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Do you have one? Traditionally, I do go first. This is Matt, by the way. This has been my voice the whole time. That's Bowen Yang. Hello? He'll be second in the I Don't Think So Honey segment. I do have something.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, the 2003 best animated film Oscar, should not have gone to Shrek. It should have gone to Monsters, Inc. When you think about the age-old question of Shrek versus Monsters, Inc., you have to really sit down and really act like a finalist and know that Monsters, Inc. is better.
Starting point is 01:21:16 It is funny in a real way. Conceptually, it is fucking brilliant. The fact that monsters are going into kids' rooms to get scares to power their world. They're going into an office. And the twist at the end of the film is that they actually do that with laughs and it's even more powerful that to me is a thematic message that kids can understand and adults can enjoy as well this was a tour de force billy crystal performance okay you know mike wazowski you love the girl my thing with shrek is it's not that it's not brilliant. It's not that it's not funny, but
Starting point is 01:21:47 it was sort of... Five seconds. It was disgusting. Shrek was gross. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. This is such an important conversation. That's why I brought it up. While I agree... While I agree with you...
Starting point is 01:22:04 Oh, God. I've got a Shrek lover in front of me. Shrek is standing the test of time. And there is such a multi-generational, monocultural, again, the quality to Shrek. Like everyone is fucking and sucking in the streets because they're like, there might be a Shrek 5. The euphoria with which the Shrek 5 announcement, soft announcement was met with, I was like, this is something. You know what I also
Starting point is 01:22:32 understand is like the puss in boots of it all is huge even because of Shrek. Which is streaming on Peacock, which we again, love. It's a finalist. Peacock is a finalist. Well, there's a category at Less Culture is called Streamer of the Year. Streamer of the Year. And we can announce at this time that Peacock is a finalist. Well, there's a category at Less Culture, Less Culture, which is called Streamer of the Year.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Streamer of the Year. And we can announce at this time that Peacock is a finalist in that category. Peacock is a finalist and is a nominee in that category. We're a nominee. Puss in Boots got amazing reviews. Yes! It's the Puss in Boots of it all.
Starting point is 01:22:55 It's literally, Monsters, Inc. is a genius movie. As a film, it is superior. Superior. But Shrek does have this lasting power in the culture for its unfortunate meme potential shrek has in a word that girl ability that girl ability is a new word in the culture when someone has the ability to be that girl that girl that girl ability and i understand that i get iconography more than
Starting point is 01:23:26 almost anyone i know i understand iconography when i when something hits i i hear you sister it's so interesting that you prefer monsters inc over shrek i understand the film but shrek is very matt rogers shrek is very this is such a dark no no no no it's not because it's it's okay here's um a stupid fucking scene in which the gingerbread man and lord farquhar are gonna recite the muffin man okay i did like that here is a scene where um do luck is the song do luck is welcome to do luck such a perfect town here we have some rules let us lay them down don't make waves stay in line and we'll get along fine do luck is a perfect place please keep up of the grass shine your shoes wipe your face do luck is do luck is do luck is a perfect place slam i definitely watched that a million times on the dvd i would just rewind it and watch duloc is
Starting point is 01:24:27 again and again and again in a way i hadn't done in many years i'm not saying that there's not iconic things about shrek i'm just saying as a film monsters inc it is also brings the emotion of course the the last shot monsters inc that will be a tearjerker for all time. Oh my God. It's a finalist for best scene. Up is tearjerker, obviously, first 10 minutes, first 15 minutes. Monsters, Inc. builds, fucking gets you. Gets you hard.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Fucking guts you like a fish in the end. Gets you hard. But no, I mean, here's the thing. It's like, I just just think in looking back like what was a better film what was a better film readers ask yourself that real question what was a better film we know the answer but i'm saying i'm not shrek is important but he was disgusting and this is what i was saying at the end trick was disgusting he was always covered in poop and fart but and disgusting swamp. But Shrek
Starting point is 01:25:25 gave you... I'm sorry to say the truth. Shrek gave you Jennifer Saunders singing Holding Out for a Hero. Not the first Shrek. Not the first Shrek. Shrek gave you Rupert Everett playing a prince. Not the first Shrek. Anytime Rupert Everett is out there... We're not talking about Shrek 2, 3, 4.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Ever After. Shrek Ever After. is that what it's called shrek forever after no shrek forever after that's what it is okay shrek the third shrek forever and cameron diaz still does these movies even though she's quote-unquote retired or now she's not i'm confused about i don't know they might well cameron diaz retired after shrek forever after they're not they're not sure if she's gonna be involved in shrek 5 okay but i would hope that she is. I mean, if there's no Fiona,
Starting point is 01:26:07 then we're dealing with a real Princess Peach situation. Where are the women? Where are the women? Anytime I walk into a room and I go, where are the women? It's a Princess Peach situation. I'm not seeing enough women. And I didn't see any when I came in here today. Well, this
Starting point is 01:26:23 was a great day, but i'm not seeing enough women color or color and i didn't see enough women or color when i walked into the room it's so funny how like we treated meredith ellen pompeo leaving grace anatomy with nothing nothing no fanfare she quietly left quietly left the show is she not on it anymore she's not on it anymore she but she not on it anymore she's not on it anymore she but she's still doing the she's still doing the voiceover in the beginning oh well thank god yeah we can't deal with someone else doing that but she's just not on the show it's not on the show but kind of did a daryl hammond left the show still doing the voices up top well that's good
Starting point is 01:26:58 you know yeah and we love and both of them deserve well i'm happy that we finally talked about this trek and monsters and give it all this actually came up in my group chat the other day amongst la gay men and it got personal so much so that some people in the group chat were texting me like i feel like people are being mean to me because i like shrek and i was like i i refuse to engage in this louis verdell did say something very funny on our group chat which was that shrek was the end of all things tasteful and glamorous shit was the end of glamour and taste and i which was that Shrek was the end of all things tasteful and glamorous. Shit was the end of glamour and taste. And I do believe that Shrek was the end of glamour and taste. I don't know
Starting point is 01:27:30 about that. But I don't care about those things exclusively. There is no coordinate system for anyone to pinpoint. When was the end of glamour and taste? This was the end of glamour and taste. I know what Lewis means. I think he knows. You think he's being hyperbolic? I think he's being,bolic i think he's being
Starting point is 01:27:45 yeah okay well listen here's what i'll say this is the discussion point for going forward everyone readers one of the questions that you're gonna have to answer katie in the weeks coming up as the weeks draw in um when was the end of glamour and taste that's the discussion topic for next week um we won't follow up on it but we want y'all to be talking about and thinking about it and please sort of on twitter if it still exists reach out and let us know when you think the end of glamour and taste was because certainly it hasn't been around in a very long time around um this is time for bowen yang to do his i don't think so honey and it's going to be very similar to the one i did in duration um as is custom bowen yang are you ready you ready? Yeah. This is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey
Starting point is 01:28:26 as time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, taking a wide stance while you're getting your milks and sugars at the coffee shop. Compact yourself, okay? Let us get in so that we may also get a lid for our damn drink. I'm not walking out here in these streets
Starting point is 01:28:41 with an open cup, an open container. I'm putting a lid on it. And you're getting in my way if you are doing the splits in front of me at the milk counter. 30 seconds, you're on fire. I need you to actually, this is New York. We need to make space for each other. It's like, I'm seeing everybody with backpacks on the subway leaning on the poles. I'm going 15 seconds. Did the starter pack get lost in the mail?
Starting point is 01:29:10 Because the narrative, guess what? It's because the narrative is, I went to Yale and now I moved to the city and I work at McKinsey. It's not hopped off the train at LGA with my dream in my card again. That's all. And that's one minute. And if you are the girl that we
Starting point is 01:29:25 just saw at Lantasy Coffee Shop, one of the best coffee shops in Brooklyn, Lantasy, love that place. And if you're that girl, then yeah, we are talking about you. We're talking about you. You were taking a wide stance at the milks for a long time. A long time. And here's the thing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:42 This is something I think it's really important to say and we're going to shout out the coffee shops that do this there are stations at those tables there is a little section where there's sugar there's a little section where there's lids and then there's the coffee the creamers rather literally horizontally spaced out you can move down the line down the line why pray tell are we standing in the middle it's it's like they're playing whack-a-mole. This is the theme. You don't need a wide stance. You don't need a wide stance. This is the theme for life.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Keep it moving. Keep it moving. Now. Now. Now. And this is like something so big going forward that Bone and I, our energy for right now is keep it moving. Keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Oh, are you a new gay man? Keep it moving. See you later. I don't talk to you. No new gay men. No new gay man keep it moving see you later I don't talk to you no new gay men this year my girls I'm just kidding
Starting point is 01:30:31 I might be ready to talk to gay men again I love that whenever you're ready I'm kind of hitting pause my ass been on pause but you are about to motherfucking press play my ass been on pause P-A-w-s oh whoa think about that think about that on pause hmm yeah yeah yeah you sat on pause i would like
Starting point is 01:30:53 to share a story of something that happened recently though i did have one hookup oh and i something happened that was really funny i was talking about doing a scenario with this person. Okay. Have you ever done a scenario? I haven't really, but I don't think you told me about this. The scenario was going to be coach and player. Great. So he was going to be coach and I was going to be player.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Hot. And we actually started it. And it was really dropped in. And it was, I think, maybe too dropped in because he started to laugh and said, I think you might be too good at improv. And then we had regular sex, which was fantastic. but i did think it was one of the funniest things ever to get that's going in the show that to get soon he said the same thing i literally was like i think we got three three lines in and like it was just it was funny because he goes i think it
Starting point is 01:31:42 might be too real i think you're too good at improv. That's so funny. Nobody steal that. We are scripting this situation. The word, I think you are too good at improv, seconds into. Before sex. Before role playing. I was like, thankful for the Lord. I was thankful for the Lord that day.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Thankful for the Lord. That was really good. Guess what? If you're out here and you're chuckle fucking, you gotta just be like, okay, I'm having sex with a funny person. So I gotta just accept that. You gotta commit. Raise your game in terms of improv.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Take a 201, honey. Take a 201. Yeah. Take 201. Or at the very least, don't comment on it. No, I loved it. Actually, it made me hornier.
Starting point is 01:32:22 I love that you loved it. I think it's a good improv. And then we laughed and laughed and then i took a wide stance if you know what i mean honey bottom era bottom era breakup era bottom era this has been what i would call a barn burner there was never a dull moment charizard era it actually really recalled i would say an honest conversation was that fire island yes it was that was a re-originated charizard era isn't it funny didn't oh this is a sunday talk sunday morning sunday morning sunday morning talk is the title of this episode and it sort of is a sister app to an honest conversation yes absolutely whenever we
Starting point is 01:32:54 just really drill in on the fact that what we're really doing here is talking and say we're use words like conversation talk like that says to me branding you know what i mean like it says this is a podcast that is talking and that you know exactly a lot of other podcasts are that no or they don't they're not up up front and honest about it this is a podcast where there's going to be a lot of talking it's called a sunday morning talk now you make the decision. Your move. Okay. Your move or just keep it moving. Or keep it, oh my God. The theme is keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Your move. Keep it moving. It's an option. That's actually rule of culture. Rule of culture number 99. Keep it moving. It's an option. Well, I'm so glad I spent this time with you.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Likewise. I'm actually, if you're going to believe this, I'm actually on my way to see another Broadway show. I'm so glad I spent this time with you. Likewise. I'm actually, if you're going to believe this, I'm actually on my way to see another Broadway show. I'm so happy for you. Do you want to tell people what it is? I'm seeing Peter Pan Goes Wrong. Stay tuned. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 01:33:53 This was fabulous. Fabulous. This was a culture catch-up forever. This is a culture catch-up forever. We didn't talk about succession. I feel like Hunter Harris has all your succession needs. Hi, this is Matt. Right now in the episode,
Starting point is 01:34:04 we discussed succession a little bit, and we had only seen the first two episodes. We have not seen, at this point, the third episode of Succession's fourth season, which is, of course, we now know, one of the great episodes of television of all time. So apologies, we will discuss the episode later. It is this episode of Las Cultur' only flaw and we apologized. Alright, back to the episode recorded hours prior
Starting point is 01:34:29 to Succession's third ep. Sarah Snook is a finalist. Wow. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so is Jeremy. I mean, I'm triggered by Kendall Roy. Jeremy. Jeremy Strong. And Kieran's a finalist. Kieran's a finalist.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Kieran's a finalist. Brian. Can't forget Brian. Can't forget him. Can't forget Justine Loop as a finalist either. Can't forget her. Can't forget Jay Cameron. She is a finalist.
Starting point is 01:34:56 I want to see more Jerry. I'm needing more Jerry. I'm needing more Jerry too. I will say this. Also giving a finalist performance in the first episode and in the series at large is Miss Cherry. Cherry Jones. Cherry Jones.erry jones great artists perfect acting of rich woman walking into a living room being like i've had a terrible headache sorry to keep you waiting it's perfect sorry to keep you waiting after yeah cherry jones will nail that which she probably does in her real
Starting point is 01:35:21 life absolutely well we end every episode with a song. I think I'm falling in love with the eighth world wonder. Yeah! If you want to hear the rest of that, you can listen to the debut album of Kimberly Locke. I believe it's called One Heart. Love that. Because you famously only do have one.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Sometimes when you meet someone else it can be two but then it eventually becomes one not in breakup era get stay safe out there everybody and the last thing we want to say is on three one two three katie you're a finalist bye On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, Elian Gonzalez, was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back
Starting point is 01:36:19 to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
Starting point is 01:36:45 My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Starting point is 01:37:15 I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
Starting point is 01:37:38 You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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