Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Talking Facts” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

Hello to everyone out there. Let’s talk facts. This episode? It’s a culture catch up- live from the HOT SET Of Fire Island in the Pines, the boys chat about Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend’s vaccinated and therefore swollen testicle and how it caused the dissolution of an engagement, the Met Gala, the return of The Real Housewives Salt Lake City, Kacey’s star-crossed, dream Elphabas, new music from Muna, Chloe and Charli XCX, and insects that bite. Also, thoughts on the big upcoming Las Culturistas Culture Awards, and a special guest who pops in, sticks around and even does an I Don’t Think So Honey! Spoiler alert: it’s Joel Kim! Ya simply musta listën! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las culturistas calling this is matt and bowen's podcast and we'll be talking facts matt bowen's back everyone out there listening uh gonna get to some facts so let's get to some facts i am uncomfortable around human beings i don't trust human beings.

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I'm blessed to have many friends. You are an insider. How does it feel? It feels incredible. I have many secrets about the entertainment industry that I could reveal, but they would get me into trouble with high people. High people.

How many NDAs have you saw? No, girl, not enough. Girl. Anyway, we... What was I saying? We're so tired, was i saying we're so tired so we're so tired okay readers publicists because it's where you're still publicist it's still award season it's still award season we're very tired we're coming at you we're happy to be here happy but you just have to level with well we're gonna level with you and you get on our level yeah we're we're we're tired but that's okay that's okay this is the last week of the Fire Island movie.

Yes. And just know that it is going to be the great film of our time. It's definitely going to lead the Oscars. I'm not kidding when I say that Matt Rogers really fucking turns in. Don't go right now. Let me.

Go ahead. Let me. Go. And that'll go for you. Matt Rogers delivers maybe the most balanced performance in the entire film. You have to stop. You are giving pure, broad comedy, physical comedy, smart, incisive comedy about the culture. And that is what Jane Austen did best.

Honey. And you are giving really beautiful emotional performances thank you for saying that i'm doing well in the film i have to return the compliment i truly do i have to say that i have just i'm gonna go i'm going there um i have yet again been impressed by bowen yang's gifts his talents and how he goes to i mean there is a scene in the film and we can say it's a romantic comedy it's a rom-com so there is a scene and bowen is one of the leads of the film so there is a scene where he is receiving the he's receiving love and i standing on a boat but this is giving away a lot no but i was standing on a boat watching this happen and i was like sandra bullock herself

it was from the sandra bullock school of receipt you remember the scene and but this is one of my favorite let's talk romantic comedies first you're about to talk about the proposal yes yeah the last scene in the proposal which is famous for two reasons one an iconic continuity continuity error clearly clearly reshoots one of the biggest continuity errors of all time her hair it was a different head she had gone through a full head and did it did it did it revert back to the original yes it did it was like she turns around she's like what what now the readers have seen it because the publishers have seen it because we've said we've talked about she turns around and she's

like what what she's like barking orders and then ryan ronalds is there she goes he's like hey i i came here to see you and it comes back to her and she's like andrew and she has a different head person different skin tone different woman different things clearly they brought her had to bring her back six months later to do reshoots but it's also famous for me because sandra i don't really know what to say about what she does but she's doing it she's doing it she is receiving the information of i love you and i want to be with you from ryan reynolds and it's so you are the audience with her right there you're receiving it too and i was watching you and i was like my god how the people

are gonna cheer for my girl and this is not spoilers people know this story of pardon prejudice okay jane wins i've said it it is it is my yes yes a thousand times yes moment it is truly gorge and i'm so excited for it and also i mean we're just so suffice it to say we have a busy well let's just say this bowen yang has a busy weekend next weekend he's going to the emmy awards and we're it's all gonna go down positive or negative still a winner oh my god no i'm ready to just have fun i've been like on my just grind all summer and not and i'm not bragging about i'm just saying like i'm like you've been busy girl i roll like oh this was supposed to be the summer that i like recharge and i didn't do it it's fine it's fine i was on the campaign trail no it wasn't that it was it was let's just this is just a peek

behind the curtain okay i'm so lucky yes and yet i am like constantly caught in this you know fun little cycle of when you're doing press for one show you're doing press for another show and then you're you're shooting one thing and you're shooting another and then you're shooting another. So whatever, this sounds, this potentially can come off as so ungrateful, but it's just, it's still labor, you know? It's still work. It's all work. And I should say that Matt and I

both stand in solidarity with our IATSE brethren. Absolutely. And it is work for everybody. And at least at least i am not in a place where i am so emotionally exhausted on top of being like just so so deeply mistreated in some oh my god no let it be known that bowen yang and matt rodgers are union girls we're union girls we we stand with the union and we are pro-strike if it comes to that absolutely 100 because people need to be treated and for those who are not aware you know this is about We stand with the union and we are pro-strike if it comes to that. Absolutely 100%.

Because people need to be treated. And for those who are not aware, this is about crew members being treated fairly. We just need to make sure the wages are so much better than they currently are. They need to be fair. Contracts need to be updated so that streamers are not considered new media anymore. Absolutely. And also the hours, it gets crazy. And people are asked to be...

People are worked to be people are worked to the bone in this industry and we're seeing it on our production i mean we love everybody working in the crew they are having to ferry in like every single day like it's this is incredibly difficult job very difficult and to think that and and you know our set has been a happy one and to but to know that that is not the case you know industry-wide you know we are in support but the reason i bring that up is because we are going to take next week off we're taking next week off so publicist let that be a moment of respite for you to really start to strategically campaign for your categories we'll talk about the awards in a second yes darling and so we're going to get

to the awards but we're taking next week off because we're going to wrap up the movie bowen's going to go either win or not win an emmy and both will be fine yes and then we're going to get to the awards, but we're taking next week off because we're going to wrap up the movie. Bowen's going to go either win or not win an Emmy and both will be fine. Yes. And then we're going to regroup and we'll be back. Oh, I've made, by the way, I've just made peace with the outcome that I'm pretty sure will happen.

Brett Goldstein. Sure. Deserved win. I was thinking about it. I was like, you know, and I know you don't love to talk about the awards. No, no, let's talk about it. But I was like, you know, they really did that thing again where they nominated three

shows three shows and then what will probably happen is one show will sweep right entire the entire god bless and you know god god bless but um anyway i i'm obviously insanely proud of you either way and i have seen the gifts be given on the film. And this is what I was saying. You were truly receiving the... You just were giving me actress. You were giving me star and actress. Babe, are you sure?

And on this podcast, we have to say that. That when we get the opportunity to be star or actress, if we had not come through on both, that would have been humiliating. My sister, you have been both the entire time mom i look at me mom you are so fucking talented it's crazy it makes me it makes me i have a note prepared for you for my little rap gift oh but you know bowen yang is bowen yang actually came back from he he took a ferry out to sort of get his rap gifts together, came back with these bags, darling.

Darling. The gifts are not bags. No. I'm not going that. Saying they were bags with gifts. Yes, they were bags with gifts. Anyway, okay. Well, what I want to say is we,

because we're not going to be able to have the opportunity to do a right up, right after the the wrap thing this has been such an amazing experience yes and it's been ups and downs because the subject matter has been what it's emotional yes but the crew has been unbelievable and when the movie is going to come out next year we don't know when but it will be out on hulu next year we definitely will be having people from the movie on and just it's going to be so exciting to share this with everyone truly um so thank you for uh uh understanding in advance and the way you understood the way you understood talking facts talking facts with matt and bowen okay so uh what was i gonna say oh my gosh this

is i mean you could you could say that we are potentially really checking the Entertainment Industry Circle Jerk part of that worst insult towards us nominee, the Apple Podcast Review. Yeah, Entertainment Industry Circle Jerk. First of all, can we just say, out of all the nominations, it was so thrilling to watch them come in

and see that Wendy Williams is now leading with 13 nominations is that as many as titanic or return of the king had get this titanic had 14 oscar nominations but that doesn't mean that we can't call the wendy williams she is the titanic of the lost culture is this culture awards 2021 do you think we'll do this again next year i don't i don't know i don't know i i don't know, because here's the thing. It was very 2021 Lost Culture, but then you'll find that there were nominees from years ago.

Even though some categories specifically say blank of the year. Of the year. Record of the year. Record of the year. All I Want for Christmas is You was nominated, and that famously came out many years ago. But it is a record of the year. There weren't really rules. Record of the year. All I Want for Christmas is You is nominated and that was famously came out many years ago.

But it is a record of this year. Hence its nomination. Hence its nomination. So the thing is like, will there be one next year? I say watch the space. Watch the space.

But awards are, a lot of them, many of them are annual. Many awards. It's actually Rural Culture number six. Awards, many of them are annual and we just

can't say we just can't say we just um but but you know i watched this space um what was your favorite nominations that you saw roll in on nomination morning when we matt rogers and bowen yang announced them i mean there's so many i we're not we should say we're not looking at them so this is truly like no top of our our heads. I mean, best animals, best animal in the forest? In the forest, I thought creatures unknown. I thought creatures unknown are an early front runner for best animal in the forest because that is one of the most spooky things.

It's one of the most distinctive things about the forest. Creatures unknown. Which is the creatures unknown. I mean, there's very much that thing of when you're in the forest and you hear a rustling and you go what was that what was that James

should we say our brains are full mush it's giving broken brain because all this cast does to each other is just quote and repeat the same fucking shit over and over again, which is mostly Wendy Williams moments,

some Tiffany Pollard moments. You know, we'll do, it runs the game. We'll recite Miranda Priestly lines. Yeah, I mean, really, it's just been the very bottom of the barrel. Can you imagine if there was even one heterosexual actor on this crew? This is my thing, is it's like,

I can't even believe- This is's like, I can't even believe- This is so rare. I can't even believe they do movies where straight people play gay people. I'm like, how do you do it? Like, the vibe would be broken. It can't be that fun. I'm saying it can't be that.

I guarantee you it has not been that enjoyable for a straight actor to play a gay person. Right. Because how do you plug into, like, what actually like to like to walk around and be gay and have a gay brain and think all these stupid fucking thoughts i mean this this actually reminds me of okay so the other the other day we were doing a scene where we all are lugging our stuff down the road down the road down like the bridge to get to our house and we we're like, oh, the house is so far, whatever.

And these gays walk by and judge us. And one of the extras was a straight man. We love him. Who we love. Theo. We're going to name names? I'm just saying he's an icon. He's an icon.

But I think he got the note like, so you're a gay man and you guys like a hot gay guy. You're a catty gay guy. You're a catty gay guy and you're judging them so he walks by and when I tell you the limp wrist on him he gave us his whole life

when he was judging us and I had to laugh so deeply funny and such a brutal brutal brutal portrayal of a gay person a gay gay judger yes and then andrew on the director blasts his heart was like hey whatever's going on with the wrist probably just tone that down but otherwise good and so i was like but it goes to the point of like

yeah just like straight people having to occupy a queer i guess he was not a professional actor bless his heart but like still it's work it's it is work like he has to like think about like he has to really be an actor in that moment think about all these choices so yeah that's i feel i feel that for sure i just was thinking about the other day i'm like the amount of shit that we have just spun off and done like as a group and that's been really good the bonding of the cast has been fun so if there was one heterosexual man i just don't know either that person would feel singled out or he would be like a little too indulgent in the idea that he was around a bunch of gay men and probably like fancy himself like oh i'm special you know yeah right or and you know that

is dangerous when straight men start to feel special, that's very dangerous. That's actually rule of culture number 55. When straight men start to feel special, that's very dangerous. Let's talk about, is there anything else about the awards that you want to talk about?

Well, I mean, just off the top of my head, I'm so happy we singled out Creatures Unknown in the Forest, the animals in the forest, because I just, I was so shook by that nomination, that nomination morning. And I also want to say shout out to Hot engineer doug who did an amazing intro oh i loved

that he really dropped in and he was very much like the pomp and circumstance of the nominations really was felt the way he said in 100 unique categories categories such a lawn it was just amazing just incredible it was just it was just amazing and you know i have so many favorite um nominees but i will just say like in in the in the big categories like artist of the millennium i was really happy to see alyssa edwards sneak in there and mike white to be honest mike white really a late entry mike white and late entry but i think white lotus really came in at the right time in the campaign for the nomination process because it was on people's minds it was on the publicist yes and then another category you know it's going to be really interesting to see aquamarine take on blue

um very a lot of yeah do they cancel each other out it's one of those and i guess not i mean otherwise like there would be vote splitting that will there be votes will there be vote splitting that's actually something we have to ask i think there might be vote splitting? Will there be vote splitting? That's actually something we have to ask. I think there might be vote splitting between Shishito Peppers and Water for the Table for Now. Yeah, and that might have chips all sneak in there and take it. Yes. So anyway, suffice it to say, we don't know when the awards will be.

They're not scheduled, and maybe they'll never happen. But definitely looking forward to that. Should we talk about something that really rocked the cast today? Because I think people might have thought that we might have already recorded our episode before we heard about Nicki Minaj's anti-vax stance. But we should also say this is a cast full, chock full of barbs. So many barbs. I mean, just able to recite Be Me Up, Scotty verses.

Like, we are barbs down and the news today was hard it was hard to take that how did you feel because i i sort of ambled over to you and i just said bad news well and then i i and then i revealed to you that i already heard well because joel broke it to me probably seconds before before. Seconds before you. And he went, look. Like, you know when someone comes to you with really bad news? I was like, oh my God, something terrible has happened. He goes, look. And I look at his phone and I see the tweet. And I just go, oh no.

Because the thing is, and then I did that thing where it's like you start in your brain to sort of form a defense and then i was like you want to protect the person and then i just i was i literally started to say out loud well you know people have different and then i was like no no i'm sorry i'm avoiding i'm hitting eject or in september of 2021 vaccines have been available for eight months and i i don't know i this is this is how a lot of you know woody allen lovers must have felt it's not quite the same of course he didn't you know cheat on his wife with his child but um or she didn't what's what's that well you said he didn't cheat on his wife with his child and i said well she didn't shit well nikki didn't nikki of course it's not i'm not her being anti-vaxx is

not quite the same not quite the same as you know statutory rape but um you know this is really really troubling this and then for her to sort of elaborate that her cousin became impotent because his testicles swelled up. So basically, for those who don't know, she tweeted that she was not attending the Met Gala. She's not attending the Met Gala because you had to get

vaccinated. By the way, we'll talk about the Met Gala briefly. But you can't go to the Met Gala if you're not vaccinated. She's not getting vaccinated for the met gala if she gets vaccinated it will be for other reasons which by the way she's working on she said she's going to do her own research and she's quote-unquote working on that research and she said her cousin got the vaccine and his balls blew up real big so big he was impotent and then the girl he was married getting married to called off the wedding.

As if that is, like, a scientifically relevant detail. I don't even know what to say. I don't even really know what to say, because here's the thing. Unfortunately, it's funny. Unfortunately, it's funny. She's a storyteller.

Unfortunately, a story was told. And we, it's, this is is the thing and we even had this conversation today about other female artists who we admire and we brought we won't name names but we will say the reference point which is look us queers are still standing one miss azalea banks today after all of all of the the nasty nasty things that have come out of her mouth, which are ultimately still sort of funny. I mean, we laugh about it, so that must be something. And so therefore you're like, problematic faves. We don't have to go through all the mental gymnastics to defend them.

We can just look at someone and say, wow, she's probably so rich and out of touch as a potential reason for why she might be anti-vax, to be like, well, that's our girl, and she's a little bit more humanized, and we're not going to deify her in quite the same way as we did.

Do you know what I mean? 100%. And here's another thing, and this is sort of like erring on the side of defense, but it's not. No one has to know who your fave is. You know what I mean? Like, you can keep your problematic fave to yourself. I will come out here and say this.

I sometimes will YouTube stream the Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani duet. Okay? There's a few of them. That is brave of you. I will sometimes stream the one that says, I don't want to go down any other road now. I don't want to love nobody but you. That was sort of a combination of Gwen and Blake that I was doing.

That was a beautiful, beautiful middle ground. Thank you. And I stream that sometimes, knowing full well that Gwen Stefani is friends with Paul Ryan. Might be some sort of uncouth, untoward figure. Sure. But, you know, the art from the artist.

Do you think we as a society are doing a better job of that? I think it depends. Here's the thing. Knowing Nicki Minaj is anti-vax and has this stupid fucking reason for it, am I, what, when we hear Super Bass come on, are we not going to rush the floor? Can I just point out something, not to bring it back to us, was kind of snubbed at the awards. We didn't really nominate her, did we?

She really didn't get many nominations. She and Tyra really didn't get. Tyra was snubbed in a major way and Nikki was snubbed in a major way. And maybe, maybe. Maybe. We knew intrinsically that we felt this was coming. She would disappoint us somehow. Because you and I are very in touch

with the ethers oh i put i licked my finger put it up to the wind every morning every morning and we're but we're very in touch with the ethers and we very you and i are very sensitive to energy and it's actually true that i 100 agree that we're very in touch with the energy and we're maybe this is a little woo woo but we're sort of sometimes what will happen is when bowen and i are in a different state oh my god plane will sort of break the airspace the airspace i was sort of my whole body will sort of retch up and i'll look to the sky and i'll say he's come he i you know i know when he's coming no let me tell you the the most recent occurrence of this which was you were in town around oh my god yes yes and we were i was supposed to meet you and josh for an outside drag race viewing

yes that thorgy was hosting orgy was hosting and then i showed up and then you i had not seen you in months truly months the longest we had ever gone i think i think that might be true and i turned the corner to this place and you were right right there. Yes, and can I tell you something? And I gasped. It's because, and I actually, this is the most surreal thing I sensed. I was like, I have to go outside now. I know when I turn the corner, he's going to be turning the corner. And then it happened because I'm very sensitive to the energies and the ethers,

and I know that you are too, and i just know when these things happen so i think that maybe some sort of like psychological like thing was going on there where we knew not to nominate her because we didn't really feel that this was her moment to have a light shining on her you know we did that we did that we did. And I am so proud of us. I'm so proud of us. Period. Period. And that's on period. And that's on period. Let's talk about the Met Gala.

It's happening now as we speak. It's literally, I mean, the looks are- We're recording this Monday night. The looks are rolling in. The theme is some type of America. American independence. Girl, I don't know. Which I was like, what?

It's not specific enough. Sometimes the wording of the themes, I'm like, okay? It's not specific enough. Sometimes like the wording of the themes, I'm like, okay, but what is it? Like, I get that it's like, like it was like when they did the religious theme. The Catholic imagination. Yeah, that was the Catholic imagination or whatever. And it was just so sort of like, like frou-frou.

I was like, okay, but what is it? What are we expecting to see? You know what I love when it's based, every now and then they'll do, based on designers. So they'll do like a Christian Dior year. They'll do like, whatever, like Ray Kawakubo, that was the most recent one, and that I love, like everyone's take on Comme des Garcons. Yes. That I love when it's specific. This is too broad.

Yeah, and it almost feels like a lot of the celebrities didn't know what to do with it, or they didn't want to do it. Like, I think a lot of people look stunning i'm just wondering exactly how they are ruminations on the theme but i sort of leave the theme behind and i'm like okay the theme is what it is about yeah it's just about seeing the the people in the clothes and it's so fun right how do they look and i think the chairs all looked really good i thought amanda gorman looked unbelievable timothy looked great timothy ocean came in with a doll we love that was sort of grogu appreciation grogu appreciation we loved that i mean let's just say legends only i mean iman did you see iman i saw iman that was crazy wow that was absolutely amazing i mean billy eilish looked fab regal and oscar de la renta i believe yeah i

mean like truly i mean there, there was great shit happening. I would say, I don't even want to really mention anyone that I don't think looked good. No, no, no. Here's what I'll say. It's frustrating and humiliating to watch someone show up in something hideous and then put on, like, a fashion face. I'm like, oh, God. Oh, like you think they're trying too hard or something? Like, when someone is coming in with, like, that punim. Punim. And they're wearing something, oh, God. Like, you think they're trying too hard or something? Like, when someone is coming in with, like, that punim.

Punim. And they're wearing something, like, wrong. I mean, that's, like, we're going to do that. Everyone's going to do that in the show. But, you know, like, it's just a phase that everyone has to go through. You know, it's just, like, you got to, like, be able to, like, perceive yours. I'm on this journey where I'm like i have i'm learning through this process to like know what i look like and how i look my best i think i think people are on

their own journey you know what i also think it's often not up to the people that look bad on the runway yeah that they looked bad and that that the more you that's and that's isn't that so sad like yes it's not their fault. Yes, it's just like, this is why, well, I don't know. I read something with Reese Witherspoon where she's like, and she's privileged to do this, but she's like, for every red carpet thing, she has six dresses there.

And she never actually makes a decision until the day, which I didn't know that's something that they did. Yeah, they can do that i mean like typically it's like a lot of people don't finalize their look until like days before something especially for big events like the oscars or the mac gallery or like right big big big thing because you don't want to be married to something that you then put on and feel bad exactly and then there's no there's no recourse after that there There's simply no recourse after that. Simply none. And so it's also just like,

imagine going like the stress of that. That's a big one because literally it's not even just like I get to go and enjoy it. It's I get to go and primarily be a topic of fashion discussion, which is- Just to be name checked by someone. And there's also no- Which is great.

Yeah. But what I mean is like, there's no bigger assumption that someone takes themselves seriously more than them arriving at the Met Gala and being like, here's my look. Because if you're one of those people that's there being photographed in a met gala look because you were invited that says to everyone like oh no yeah i i take myself this seriously

and i'm presenting this to you as not only fashion but art and like cultural discussion so have at it and that is brave you're because you're really putting yourself out there in the most high risk way yeah because that's like if you look if you're a flop then people are going to be talking for a prolonged period of time about how you yeah yeah i mean so so in that way it's bravery and truth it is brave no i'm literally and this is okay some fucking idiot's gonna think we're like stumping for celebrity rights no but it's just like psychologically that has to have some effect on you here's what i'll say four years ago i might have gotten on this podcast and been like

so-and-so looked a wreck a flop whatever but now now that i know a little bit more about it i'm gonna be a little nicer and that's right and that's actually gr wth growth growth natasha rothwell gif post it now we don't we don't drag anyone for looking bad at the met gala because you know what maybe it was someone else maybe maybe so many things could go wrong so many things could go wrong the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome.

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on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble.

I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast trust me you won't want to miss this one by the way this is just again if you can't tell by now this is just a culture recap episode we haven't done one this is culture catch-up culture catch-up culture i'm sorry culture catch-up culture catch-Up. I mis-termed it. No. So much culture to talk about. And wait, we sort of touched on Salt Lake at the top. Yeah. Oh my God. Joel Kim! Joel Kim!

Okay. So he said that he wanted to come in and talk about Salt Lake with us because last night we all watched Salt Lake together. Now here's the thing. Like I said, I saw it a few weeks ago. Yes, you saw it early. I had even sent the link to my sister's, but I'm actually really happy that we all waited to discuss it together joel kim's here um now hi joel say hi hello so um basically what we found was that it was one of the best episodes of housewives in recent memory

and we also felt that it was far and away a best season opener. Oh my God. I mean, what, what were our general thoughts? I think the ladies after a season of watching themselves have sort of awoken in the machine a little bit and they understand what they need. They understand the assignment better as often they do in the second seasons of these shows. Like they,

they know that they are now archetypes. They are not human beings. Yes. they no longer exist as humans to us but it's a thing where all of them know are plugging in in the right way because sometimes you get housewives who watch themselves on tv for one season and then they kind of change course in a way that is not great for them i think all of them understand what they should do but there are gonna be some except for except for heather i think heather is is gunning for a bad second yeah yeah this is what i'll say about heather i think heather is is again gauging it wrong i think she's playing and she was like i

told you guys about what she was like she really flopped and watch what happens live being like i think that jen's business is unsavory i've thought that from the beginning but i am still her friend because she's fun and smart. It's like, honey, that's not what fun and smart people do. But I will say that she'll be watchable and she'll be a good housewife. And every single one of them are going to be good housewives this season.

They'll set up. But Heather will just be confounding, especially. You'll be like, what are you doing? I mean, you often see this, I think, with either girls who are going into their second season or with this show, it's the second season in general. She's going in high of her own supply. Yes!

And oh, how the mighty will fall. We saw this season. We saw this season with Leah. Yeah. We saw it with, let us not forget, Leanne Loughin, coming off an amazing season with Leah. We saw it with Let Us Not Forget Leigh-Anne Locken coming off an amazing season from season four to season five. Let Us Not Forget Leigh-Anne Locken. It happens all the time and she will be humbled.

She will be humbled. Absolutely. And it's the Rihanna follow that always fucks these women up. I have to confront Joel Kim. Okay. Because I have to. This is kim okay because i have to i mean this is one of my favorite things to do is confront people on the podcast so we're sort of sitting here in ben bowen's bedroom like watching the show last night and we start with lisa going over to

jen's house and about six times during the episode joel kim turned to me and said you are lisa you are lisa you are lisa to the point where it started to feel like a drag no but i want you to know that lisa's powerful this season and lisa is riding a trojan horse and i do i agree with her in the conflict with meredith which is going to become a conflict no but lisa is here as a housewife to stay and people said she was going to be out soon i don't think she's out soon i don't i don't think she's out soon and it was not a drag i simply believe that you are an active listener in the same way that Lisa is an active listener. I would be telling you, uh,

like literally anytime I tell you a story, it is a lot of amazing. Absolutely. Love that. Love that. Oh, I love that. I love that.

How many times did she say, I love this. I love this. Well, I'm sure it was like, I'm sure the editors. I love this. I love this. I love this. I also do respect

anyone that rides from fast food place to fast food place in like a Mercedes Benz. She still looks like that. Wait, do you guys feel that she's your sister because of her passion for Diet Coke? Yes. I do feel connected to her about that. I do feel connected to her about that.

I would like to transition us now because if you're calling me out, then I want to start by simply bringing up the topic of Mary M. Cosby. Okay, we brought her up at the beginning, but let's really dig deep. First of all, I just want to say

that I think Mary is sort of poised to become one of our greatest housewives, legendary. I believe that she is great. And I believe that she is incredible and amazing for the show and that she is dangerous and should be removed from television immediately. I fear for

my life. I fear for the lives of those around her. I think she's dangerous. I think she is an incredible piece of television history. She is anti-narrative. She is anti-narrative. We were saying, we were saying the three of us,

that the podcast is anti-structure. Yeah. Well, when Mary M. Cosby comes on Housewives of Salt Lake City, the show actually becomes avant-garde. Yes. It becomes theater of the mind. It becomes odyssey of the mind. It becomes sort of journey into another

level of the subconscious a metaverse yeah because she says things like i i don't belong in this world and she says i don't trust human beings and then she sort of gets into it i was born by god i was born for god these sort of things which are so and then... And then when they cut to her in her hat and she says, I don't want to drink Jen's friendship juice. That's the sort of stuff that creeps me out. It skews me out. I'm like, I never... It's always an overreaction, but never

enough of a reaction. Also, where is it coming from? I've never seen someone literally move through space like she does. No. Talking to herself. I i'm like this is really really unsettling because i've not seen a human being like this ever in my life and let it be known that her podcast completely missing from the internet those mics were not plugged in um and here's where the call out comes in. Because again, I do love Mary.

She is in my top five. I think she's a terrorist. I think she needs, she's obviously taking advantage of people. And she is maybe one of the most evil people to ever appear on a Bravo reality television show. And I believe that her rise can be directly attributed to your platforming of this awful, person i would agree and i have no

regrets do you have regrets well we did say i think someone there was a bad news there was a bad news day for her and then you and i texted each other like we have to rescind we almost said we had to get on and do a whole episode rescinding that whole episode which would have been too much which would have been too much i don't stand by it i think i i kind of agree with joel and i think we should we should we should present the day i guess all we have to say again is watch this space watch this space um whitney dropping the cake was iconography rule of three is perfection rule of perfection that was a great moment um i thought all of meredith's scenes were good we got to see a deeper side of meredith i think meredith is poised to have the best the queen i think that meredith is positioning herself very much in the way that kyle has managed to do in a lot of ways in that

kyle is sort of the conduit for a lot of personal drama in her own life without being in conflict with a lot of yes lvp. LVP notwithstanding, some of that stuff. But there are a few housewives that you can sort of settle into and watch them deal with personal family drama without the conflict

with the other women. Now, she's obviously activating a little bit more this season. Right, right. She's engaging. She is engaging. She's Meredith speak. But I also,

I'm happy to watch her go through her marriage problems i'm happy to watch her deal with her father's death i'm happy to watch her put a dog in a sweater i'm there the product placement was on point she said exactly i know the assignment my fashion assignment yeah i find her to be very compelling and I find her resistance to drama in itself a drama. Well, it's not resistance to drama because she has a very, very steadfast value system, let's say. I mean, her talking about Brooks

and protecting Brooks' sexuality in a way that is kind of bogus, but to be like, Brooks has never talked about sexuality. We have to dig into that, by the way. And he was referred to as a twig specifically there was one

post referring to him as a twig that was and that there is now a narrative we are now

existing in a world where Brooks Marks sexuality is in question his sexuality he's barely spoken about

even to me let alone to Jen Shaw my family. I mean, it's iconography. I have done nothing to Jennifer Shah. This is what I think about narrative. In any good show, you have a will they or won't they.

A will they, won't they narrative. Sam and Diane. Thank you. Rachel and Ross. Or Ross and Rachel. Either way, it could work. Could work. The will they, won't thank you

that's another one yes and the will they won't they of Salt Lake is Meredith and the narrative oh my god the will they won't

they of Salt Lake is Meredith Marks and the narrative of the show is she too good for it or is she going to no get messy

and we've we've we have answered the question she called the feds she called the feds and they're that they're insinuating that she called the feds on jen which by the way we haven't even brought up jen which is insane that this episode was chock full of enough that we're not even talking about about biggest jester flop nominee jen shaw of the real housewives of salt lake city she is almost definitely going to jail and we saw the first minute or so of the episode depicted the actual fleeing of the beauty lab scene that was Jen Shaw getting the call that she was going to be arrested. Chills that in the two months earlier cutaway, she says to who,

I would go to jail for you. Lisa, you know I would go to jail for you. I haven't gone to jail yet. I'm telling you. This is a five star episode. There was no, and this is in a golden era of Housewives and, and this is, this in a golden era of Housewives

and we can all agree. It's a golden era. In an episode where pretty much every episode of Beverly Hills is almost five stars if not at least four. And Potomac I've enjoyed

very much. Potomac has been great and Potomac continues to be great. I definitely like, we're at a little bit of a stall. I know.

And this was, I think the first episode that we thought maybe a Scala needs to give more. Yeah. Lots of shots of a Scala putting food in her mouth this week.

Not a good sign. And she's only had one confessional look this whole time, hasn't she? We need more. I just want to really quickly quote Meredith Marks again. Horrible, despicable, repugnant things. Yeah, I mean, just

wonderful, wonderful poetry there. there hits the ear just right you know and also this is another thing about whitney i want to just jump back to her it's very hard for me to hear anyone say the words work hard play hard and we still like them and when she said that she was teaching her adult stepchildren that she works hard and play hard and they can too i was like you know what that's actually good and those kids need that. Those 29-year-old men that are her sons need a figure like her to show them work hard,

play hard. Oh, and that's all Mormons want. A 20-year-old Mormon in their 20s wants to hear or to really internalize is you work hard, play hard.

That's what Lula Bro is all about. I can't wait to watch Lula. Oh, we can't wait to watch that. Lula Rich. Have you heard about Lula Rich? I only know about it in the context of that man

being upset about Kelly Clarkson. That is a lightning rod of controversy. Yes, unfortunately. We watched Bowen Yang's interview. So now I'm with two people who have been on the Kelly Clarkson show and I am her biggest fan and I'm not one of them. We just watched Bowen Yang's charming interview on her show. It was fine.

I was nervous. But she apparently is featured in the Lula Rich documentary, I guess. Because she performed a private concert. She performed a private concert for Lula Roe,

which actually makes a perfect amount of sense. But, we're going to watch the documentary. I might even watch it tonight with my friends if you wish.

That's insane. We have to be up in like six hours. you're right. They've been early calls. be up in like six hours. You're right. They've been early calls. They've been early calls. So I suggest watching Lula Rich when we have to be up in six hours.

I would love to watch an informative documentary with my friends. What network is it on? Prime. It's on Amazon Prime. Which is huge for them. You know, what I mean that in the streaming wars,

they didn't have a big landmark doc. And now they're going to have one. Before I let Joel float off back into sleepy town, I want to know your thoughts, everyone's thoughts on New Housewife Jenny. Jenny. What do we think of her compelling personal narrative and backstory? An interesting, compelling personal narrative. I need to see more.

I need to see more i need to see more i will say this is my problem with jenny is that she's not making a big enough play at sort of the branding like right off the bat her her tagline um i have enough of everything even secrets what is it i have enough of everything especially opinions especially opinions something like that very generic stuff so could have been could be said of any housewife and that's tough and based on the trailer clips of her it seems like she's just kind of pulling conflict out of thin air in a way that doesn't feel like it was not working out mia's not working out unfortunately no star quality there there, either. It is interesting that

they really pulled the lever and said, we will have Asian women on these franchises. There's one on every franchise. Right, right. They're really sort of, they're colonizing every city. They're colonizing, the Asians

are colonizing the Bravo. And it's interesting that she still fits within this sort of theme of Salt Lake City, which is, oh, you have a religious person, and here we have Catholicism represented. Yeah. I would like to see a predominantly Asian Housewife City. I think something in the Bay Area. Something in the Bay Area.

That's genius. Or retool Orange County to be mostly Asian. Sure. Oh my god, that would be great. I want to see that. I want to see that on my TV. Yes, yes. Say that. I would like to see it. Wait, there was one other thing.

There was one other thing. The taglines. So I think we've all agreed that this fleet of taglines was amongst the best we've all agreed that this fleet of taglines was amongst the best we've heard. One of the best. But I think we all can say together what the number one, maybe best Housewives tagline,

and this is going to really close the loop on the beginning of this episode, which is, If you come for me, I will send Jesus after you and it doesn't get scarier or bigger than Jesus truly I feel the impact still it has not worn off well and we have seen women

weaponize Christianity on these shows we've seen women sort of base their entire thing around Christianity never have we seen someone evoke Jesus' name in such a way. As if she hired a friend, a hitman. Jesus, imagine Jesus chasing you down. Nothing scarier than arriving in a dark alleyway and seeing Jesus.

Jesus, come after you. You would really second guess a lot. And he pins you down, and you're in dying breath. The last thing you say is, who sent you? And he says, Mary M. Cosby. My close personal friend, my sister who was born of me. Nothing more frightening. Truly, I have chills. have chills i've i've never

experienced a television show like this it is i think with one episode out the gate you realize that first the first season of the show actually was even in the moments where it didn't feel like it was popping off everything was essential every woman is set up for success yeah the narratives are we scream laughing every time we see whitney say we are in danger she's not who she says she is or lisa lisa what is she's not who she says she is i just don't think she is who she thinks she is who she says she is whatever it is shaking i gotta say even the commercials even the commercials. Even the commercials. I'll never fast forward. That woman... What is the line from the show?

That's a different thing, though. I was saying, the commercials that played during the episode. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That woman is a disruptor. What is that from? It's from some movie. The Yaya show. That woman is a disruptor.

I mean, really good stuff on bravo top to bottom the real housewives of salt lake city are back i love that oh my gosh welcome and last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman.

I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.

And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest

artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim victim mentality i took zero accountability for anything in my life i was the kid that if you asked what what happened i immediately started with everything but me it took years for me to break that like years of work listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts me, you won't want to miss this one.

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Speaking of words like disruptor,assing candace dillard bassett heard about her lost culture recess cultural award nominations yes and she said she said what categories exclamation point question someone said at candace i can't believe what a thrill for her to be nominated in three categories the same number of categories that joel can boosters do you have any response to your three nominations um i have to say um when i heard about them um i was shocked um i will say um i do feel like i am sort of being set up to lose uh for the joke and i'm fine with that no i'm fine with that even though i don't understand what the joke would be i think it's pretty clear what the joke is i feel like the what's clear is that matt and i will lose our categories but the people who really deserve the awards and will be publicized heavily will win and you will deserve whoever the

funniest gay man is will win whoever had the funniest i don't think so any whoever should deserve the joy bay horror stand-up award for coming i think it's just going to come down to who did the best stand-up wait actually i have i don't even know who else is nominated but besides me and pat for the joy behar one it's you katie perry for her work in the vmas when she hosted oh okay the vmas okay that makes sense that makes a lot of sense and i think between the three of you in my it's a dead heat it's a dead well and remember i was gonna say it's a clear front runner install it's no it's the joy behar award for stand-up comedy it's not best stand-up it's so it's i don't know why i have to explain it and this is the thing some of those some of those awards um the the namesake awards the the namesakes were nominated yes tina turner was

nominated for the tina turner she was nominated joy beh Tina Turner was nominated for the Tina Turner Levin Award. She was nominated. Joy Behar was not nominated for the Joy Behar Award. No, Joy Behar, it's kind of like Diablo Cody Award for screenwriting. She had two nominees.

Diablo Cody for Young Adult and Nia Vardalos for My Big Fat Greek Wedding. And it's just going to come down to who deserves the Diablo Cody Award for screenwriting. Doesn't mean

one of those scripts that Diablo Cody wrote is the winner. And I don't really understand why I have to explain this. No, no, no. I'm sorry to make you explain that. I'm just saying.

It's labor. I just want to really disprove this notion that Joel has that he is being set up to lose. He thinks it's a bit. He thinks it's all being set up for a joke, he said. This is a month's long process.

This is award season. It's very serious. Get out of here. I will say, I approached Matt on set. I'll say it. On set, even. And he was hunched over his phone. Hunched.

Hunched. Hunched over his phone. And I said, what are you doing? And you said, I'm voting. And I thought, maybe in the California recall election that was coming up. over his phone and I said what are you doing and you said I'm voting and I thought maybe in the California recall election that on his phone I did in my belt was counted and if you haven't voted yet you must please vote and he was it was the it was actually the ballot for the last culture is this

award he said he looked me dead in the eyes and he said I don't think you're gonna win you said that i don't remember saying that you did you did how dare you i don't i didn't say that i think you look guilty you look hella guilty um it might have been it might have been more so that you were saying i'm not voting for you which he only has one vote. I would never say who I voted for. I haven't voted for anybody. I have never in any election said who I voted for.

I don't think it's right to talk about politics. Race, religion, creed, or politics. We're not talking about that. No. I'm like Ramona. I don't like talking about race, religion, or creed. Just letting you know I'm a girlfriend. Just letting you know I'm a girlfriend.

Sexy girlfriend stuff. Speaking of sexy girlfriend stuff, do you have anything to say about the following topics? Kylie Sonique wins Drag Race. Amazing. Love. As soon as she tripped and recovered, I said, there's the winner. There's the winner. Bowen, in a sentence, what do you think about Kylie Sonique

winning Drag Race? What a beautiful journey. What a true, full redemption arc. In a season of many redemption arcs what a lovely thing to end on her sort of you know really triumphing beautiful i would say i agree i think that also i don't really know who else would have won um okay now i want to give you to have a one sentence review of casey musgraves starcross jill kim um i hope she gets 10 more divorces that really has provided good work boning uh i will say cherry blossoms is a an acceptable moment of musical appropriation of asian culture and i was wondering if you thought that because i said i really like this song when it started and you said you said is that cherry blossoms and i said yes and then i wondered if you didn't like the song and what and did i go hmm no i love that song i really love it too it's a

gorgeous song and she and she and she throws in some like fun like japanese like whatever like yeah influences public trans and no she loves japan she loves japan what what joel i want her to come out like katie perry at the vmas yeah vocation vocation unconditionally i thought you were saying you should come out and do stand up i don't think so can i say i don't think casey musgraves would be as good a comedian as katie i really don't this oh but she she was on a live with meg stalter the other day promoting the the film and meg stalter one of the stars of starcross the film yes that's true and she and meg were having we're doing bits galore and i think i think just casey could really roll with with with the comedian i would agree and i think that my my review of casey musgraves starcrossed

is it's so difficult to be cinematic yet intimate and it was pulled off and you said you said that to me earlier at dinner and i was like he's so right and this is my girl with the with the incisive commentary uh you and i love casey from the from the jump from the jump we even we actually are the reason why so similar to what you said about mariam cosby we're actually the reason why casey mcgrace is popular with gay men because we wrote for vulture vulture and we said gay people pay attention boeing and matt rogers were actually the two most influential Vulture writers. I'm reading this off the internet. Yeah, that's what it says.

Hunter Harris, eat your heart out. She can eat her ass out. Oh my God. What do you think of Kristen Stewart becoming the front runner for best actress for playing the 19th person that's done Princess Diana this year? I will say, and I said this online, and a lot of people tagged you in it, I am not holding space

for bandwagon Kristen Stewart fans. I have been there from the beginning. I was there during Personal Chopper. It was there during Claude de Sils Maria. I was there during Twilight. I was there during Panic Room.

What do you think of Kristen Stewart becoming the best actress frontrunner? I was there during Twilight. I was there during Panic Room. Okay. Oh, okay. All good. What do you think of persons who are becoming the best actress frontrunner? For anyone who thinks they might be right in doubting her, all I have to say is, grammatically, this doesn't make sense. They don't. They don't. They don't.

They don't. They don't. I will say this. When I saw that trailer and she said, they don't. Chills't. They don't. They don't. They don't. I will say this. When I saw that trailer and she said they don't. Chills. I really got the chills. And Pablo DeLorean, you are a Jackie fan.

We love Jackie. Are you a Jackie fan? Oh, I love Jackie. Jackie was, and you know what they said? That people that have seen Spencer said that it is a spiritual sister film to Jackie.

And they said that, you know, it would make a good trio. Girardi. Brittany. Erica Jane. And they said that, you know, it would make a good trio. Girardi, Erica Jane. Erica Jane. And they call her Girardi. But wouldn't you think it would be interesting to see a Pablo Lorraine, Brittany movie?

Oh, 100%. One of our modern princesses. That's Dove Cameron's Oscar. And everyone's asking, what's Dove Cameron's Oscar? Everyone's asking? A lot of people are asking. Name on everyone's lips is Dove Cameron.

Dove Cameron. Wonderful. We love Dove. Another cultural topic. Everyone watch Dove Cameron interviews. Yeah. She's a real fucking girl. Okay.

Mary Fuck Kill. Mary Fuck Kill. Charlie XCX. Good ones. Chloe Mercy. Have mercy. Muna and Phoebe Bridgers. Silk Chiffoebe bridges silk chiffon this is really hard and these are the three bops that have come out during production there's been there's been really

i will go first okay i'm gonna marry silk chiffon i'm gonna oh i'm gonna fuck mercy and i'm gonna kill charlie xcx good ones because of the funeral imagery and I think that's what Charlie would want because of what she did in the music video and that's the way I'm going to salvage the answer. Okay, so I actually have the same response but I have a slightly different reason for killing Charlie XCX and it's because it's too damn

short. It's too damn short. The songs are too damn short. She's making a chart play. It's too short. She wants the streaming numbers to go up and she wants to show up on the chart. Respect yourself. I think we're all going to fuck Have Mercy. Just like Chloe was fucking us in that music video. We're all marrying Silk Chiffon.

Yes. I might. We love those girls. I might fuck Good Ones just because it gives me like. So Have Mercy. We were talking to our hmu queens yes heads um rashida bolden and amber morrow they both are like we like it it's a little it's just really intense in the way that it is really sexualizing chloe yeah and and it is like

it feels somewhat calculated in whatever way i I don't fully agree with that. I don't fully disagree with that. I just think, I watch the Have Mercy video and I go, wow, I feel bad about myself. And I can't have sex with someone who I'm intimidated by. See, I felt like the Have Mercy video, I was like, this is such a Beyonce production that I almost feel

like like and but but i wonder like she's such a machine i'm like i'm only excited to see what's next and i'm not surprised she can do this i guess this didn't this is a great thing for her to come out the gate with right this wasn't like a thing of like wow this artist just gave it to me in a way i never knew they could it's like we all knew. I kind of knew this was coming, but I'm thrilled to see it. Yes, yes. But I'm going to fuck good ones, and I'm sorry, kill, have mercy, because I'm scared. Right, you are frightened.

I'm frightened. And you want to kill what you're afraid of. But I love that Dante Colli is in it. Yeah. Amazing dancer. But we're all marrying. Silk! Shift on!

And we love the ladies. We love the ladies. Now, this is the last cultural topic. They're not all ladies but we should say oh but we love we love we love muna doug do your thing we love them we love them now the last cultural topic i want to discuss is what do you think of all of a sudden every every young girl putting out a cover of defying gravity because they know they're auditioning for um alphaba and who is your alphaba talk to me about that now bowen yang you're first who do you want to see as alphaba and glinda i i i'm not the one to answer this i really am not but i feel not qualified i think whenever i go to ariana grande's instagram and i see that she follows john mchoo

director of the of the wicked adaptation i think this must this has to happen she has to be it almost feels like we'd all have blue balls if she wasn't in it a little bit right like she like she would be the draw for everybody think about the generational like reach that like she would have if she were to be cast either as elf of or i think she'd be good as either honestly i think she'd be good as either joel just laughed you chuckled i'm chuckling because i'm remembering last week when i made you sing the wizard and i as a sim because that is what um a friend and i believe ariana sounds like when she sings The Wizard and I and Matt doesn't know what Simlish is and if the readers

I know I didn't stop you but it is one of the funniest recordings and I wish you could play it. I'll play it for you tomorrow. Now I don't know how to answer this. I'm so sorry. I'm not qualified. Well I also think Ariana Grande should begin the film because I just think

why the hell not? Why the hell hell not and i would also say that i since the beginning have been by the way emmy winner kiki palmer oh my god i think kiki palmer would be a good as glinda should be amazing i think she'd be a good as glinda and i think she also has an alphabet voice i think we should be thinking of kiki palmer more for every part every part but i'm just saying for this as well i also think madame mor we should be thinking of Kiki Pomermore for every part. For every part. But I'm just saying for this as well, I also think Madame Marable

should be Catherine Zeta-Jones. That's the only thing I'm positive about. Interesting. Catherine Zeta would be amazing, like cuckoo, like Madame Marable. I'm thinking like

Christine Baranski. Interesting. But, and maybe that's too similar to her in Chicago. She's like, oh, you know,

like that. She is very like that. But I, speaking of Dove Cameron, Do dove cameron be an amazing glinda yeah yeah i'm not seeing enough color in these choices i would like to see park ashley park ashley park i would like to see um my bipoc queen my BIPOC queen, Jessie J. Iconic BIPOC. When she put out that Defying Gravity cover, I said,

it's finally great to see an iconic BIPOC sing this song. Shut the fuck up. Am I not allowed? No, you are. It just sounds so... I love

when I get to see BIPOCs win. Someone at a party here on the island, the day that video came out of Jesse J. singing Defying Gravity, came out. I mean, Joel and I had checked in with each other. We were both like, we both had our opinions about it. This person comes up to me, gorgeous guy.

Couldn't tell if he was making a move on me, but he was like... But Jesse J., a remix of Dominoed by jesse jay came on and then he reached over to me and said um have we seen the video of jesse jay singing defying gravity and i go i have indeed and he goes what do we think and right as i was about to open my mouth to be like i don't know he said i thought she was incredible. And I was like, and that was a Jesse J fan right there.

That was a Jesse J fan right there. In his bag. In his bag. And I was like, oh, okay, let's just, let's just let this go.

This, this man. I think it could, it has to be said that the video was incredible in a lot of ways. Oh, it's an incredible video. The camera angles alone. She sang it effortlessly. Oh my God. But here's the thing with Defying Gravity. It's an, it's an incredible video. The camera angles alone. She sang it effortlessly.

Oh my God. But here's the thing with Defying Gravity. You need to act it. I don't think it should sound effortless. It should sound like the biggest effort

in her life thus far. Yes. I feel... I'm a turd. Yes, I feel... She should be metamorphosizing. It should feel like Idina Menzel about to die.

Oh my... Which is how it originally was. Right, right. Idina Menzel about to die. Oh my. Which is how it originally was. Right, right. Idina Menzel killed herself out there. This is why the Brandi Shivan Massey moment is so iconic. It's because she literally is like losing her mind a little bit. Yeah. You know, like she's like, I'm this new, I'm changed.

Yes. I'm a changed person. And that's why it's nominated for Best Live Performance by a Woman at the Lascaux Dressless Culture Awards. Thank you, Brandy. We love you. I wanted to touch on that. Joel Kim, you sort of become an honorary guest on the episode. Would you like to stay for I Don't Think So, Honey?

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Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Basically, what you need to know everyone at home is two things. One, I don't think So Honey is a one minute segment that we do on every episode of Las Culturistas, which is sort of a minute long period for us to just sort of...en what would you say if you could make a noise that simplifies i don't think so honey what is it that's it yeah and so that's like that and also you need to know another thing which is that i decided on my topic for i don't think so honey and then joel kim seconds later dragged a very

similar topic he was like i don't think so what He was like, I don't think so, honey. What are you going to do? I don't think so, honey. Bees? I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do this. Something else. This is Matt Rogers.

I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Insects that bite. Yes, it includes bees, but this also encompasses the very, very rude and not off-sighted biting insect, which is the horsefly,

which was dragging the girls to hell today. It was hard. We were shooting a scene that takes place at T, spoiler, and we were down by the harbor, and let me tell you, the horseflies were out to night, and they were out to bite, namely the cast of Fire Island.

At the ankles. At the ankles, the knees, the shins. Sometimes the neck. Really tough stuff. At the ankles, the knees, the shins. Sometimes the neck. Really tough stuff. Also, turning to the bees. We don't need them. I don't think so many bees

that we need you because a lot of people are out here saying, well, you know, we need bees. It's like, you dig a little bit, you go on the internet

for two seconds. Why do you need bees? You need them for corn. Guess what? I don't like corn. I don't need corn. I don't need anything that goes in looking one way

and comes out the same. Unless it's a dick. The dick should go in looking one way, come out looking the exact same. No poop. I don't think so. One minute. So we have something factually wrong, which is that if bees were to die off, we would just need to be eating more corn because other flowering

vegetables would not be pollinated. I've been told. No, no, no. You got the corn thing right. Oh, I'm sorry. Then I got the corn no no you got the corn thing right oh i'm sorry then i got the corn thing you got the corn okay i'm sorry i'm sorry my sources tell me that roughly 40 of the crops that we eat would die out and it would be bad if the bees died but it would not be catastrophic it would not be 40 no that's we still got corn, baby. We still got corn. And I said, I could live off of corn. And you two queens said,

no, I actually don't like corn, which is shocking. I just don't like corn that much. In fact, there was a scene the other day where I was given a prop bag and my character had bought a lot of corn. And I handed it back.

I said, my character wouldn't do this. And what you were really saying was Matt Rogers wouldn't do this. They gave the prop bag back and they said, you'd't do this and what you were really saying was Matt Rogers wouldn't do this they gave the prop back and they said you better take this and they said you better take this you better take this prop back

all I'm saying is they've been really a nuisance lately I was potentially going to do and I don't think so honey butterflies that's just good PR because they're at the end of the day just as disgusting as of insects as others okay and why do we give them a free pass because they're they're out they have about our aesthetic which is beautiful but according to who like according

to what aesthetic according to what and you know what you're so right i almost wish you would have done this no it's fine i'm just saying but're being specific and you're saying bugs that bite. At least butterflies don't bite. Bugs that bite. I mean, like, it's just, and here's the thing. It's like, they say, like, oh, don't bother the bee, don't waver the bee, then it won't bite you. I wasn't doing anything.

No. I wasn't doing anything. I was minding my own business. I was actually doing my job. Yeah. Today. Thank you very much. Say that. Bow bowen do you have an i don't think so honey i do well lucky us because we have we have time tonight and this is bowen yanks i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey high fives open palm hand contact is very aggressively heterosexual to me the only queer way to have hand contact with someone is to interlock your fingers am i right

or am i fucking right no more high fives queer people if you see each other if you want to congratulate each other try and something share a moment together do something else look make eye contact hold each other's faces in your hands and say wow good job i'm proud of you not high five none of that 30 in fucking fourth grade? Remember the day that you discovered what a high five was and you thought you were the coolest fucking person in the world? Those days are long gone. You're an old person now.

You're at least 45 years old if you listen to this podcast. That's the median age of this podcast, I'm told. Just kidding, I just made that up. But high fives, stop it. If you high five someone again, please live in some shame that you have adopted straight culture into your life even if you are straight please start to queer your hand contact going forward and that's one minute two things the mean age of listeners of this podcast is 26 do you is this real i guess and the second thing is this is a direct drag on me someone that high

five bowen today as a bit and i and i and that's what inspired by now i think so honey and i but it was a bit and i knew it was a bit because you don't we don't high five we do not and that's that's this is the thing is that queer people are queering have queered that already yeah the people who remain high fivers i go what what what pain are you holding on to yeah you're so right thank you i i and also in the year of our lord 2021 where it's covid oh no no no no not high five keep it to the elbow i also i will say i don't like the elbow thing either because i feel like it's like a comment on the fact that we can't high five and it does bring me back it brings mentally you know what i mean like if we're gonna bump elbows I'm like oh god I didn't need this and now I just

remember that we can't shake hands exactly but like you can but you can get vaccinated unlike Nikki okay Joel would you like to do one would you like to do one you would do a great one I think if you have a something

on your mind you know it's sort of, it would be like sort of grasping. It would be grasping. We've been grasping. I know, I listen to your podcast every week. I listen to your podcast every week. This is Joel Kim Boosters.

I don't think, would you like to start? Would you want to go on another moment? Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready. This is Joel Kim Boosters. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Photo dumps.

Okay? Do not put me in a photo dump. Okay? I am a prize to be won. I am not going to appear in a photo dump next to a landscape shot that you thought was artistic but were too ashamed to put on your grid, sir. I do not be side by side with a meme. A meme?

A meme? No. Not me and a meme? No. No. I will not. I will be on the grid. I will be front and center because I have put in the work. 30 seconds. Honey, I don't think so, honey. Photo dumps, you sound gross.

You sound fecal. Fecal in nature. You sound like something that goes in the toilet and that's what you are, photo dumps. You are something that goes in the toilet and that's what you are photo dumps you are something that goes in the toilet because i have never scrolled through a photo dump and enjoyed myself i have never gone on that journey and gotten to the end and said that was worth my time stop putting photo dumps on instagram seconds respect yourself respect me and respect everyone's

time that's one minute this is a true master of the form. For me, it's the word dump. It is the word dump. That's what I object to. And I believe, you know, it's been said before. Also, it's not the concept. So even if someone were to post a photo,

no, but you're saying like all of it is an issue. Uncouth. I think the content is bad too. Yeah, because you know, if you're posting 10. It's supposed to be, it's like intentionally ironic. It's too much of a wink sometimes.

I don't think at any given time there's 10 photos that haven't been posted to Grid by themselves that are worthy of Grid. And if it's the sixth thing in a photo dump, it's still Grid. And that's humiliating. And I would hate to be seventh in Grid. And this is, I'm saying this as someone who's done this before,

but I just called them a bunch of photos. I would never call them call them a photo you're a bunch of photos here's a slideshow i think i'm showing my age a little bit no i think i am i think i think my adherence to the grid and and sort of the the specialness of the grid is my 33 we show our age all the time on this podcast because can i say something we are in our 30s. We're in our 30s. I love it. People were saying the other day, did you watch the VMAs? This is a culture podcast.

The music's second biggest night happened the other night. No, I didn't watch it. We didn't watch. We're so sorry. No, I don't know who they are. I don't know who the girls are. I know some of them.

We know some of them, don't we? There are a lot of people who are putting X's where vowels should be in their names. Let's just say that. And now we said it. And now we said it. Damn. I don't like it. Okay.

Okay. Okay. All right. In their names. Just in their names. Yeah. Yes. Let's say this.

This has been a real culture catch up. I really went in directions I didn't expect. And that's, that's what makes for the best culture catch up. That's the most beautiful podcast episodes. Although we had our friend join us, our friend who really let's just, we were,

Nat and I were very earnest with each other up top about, about our experiences on this movie and just complimenting each other. have to i think it is very it is very untoward and we've been toward if we did not say a jolkin booster number one every step of the way number one the call sheet wrote this movie eping this movie making decisions creative decisions rewriting scenes with this uh you know as as we're shooting and starring in the film and then every scene i i tell i told him that I've talked to you about this so much throughout this process I go he's really done something incredible

Joel Kim he's written this movie that I don't think anyone I know could have done we're very excited we're so proud and grateful and we're so thankful that he brought us on to this and we love him so much you know what happened earlier today which i think would actually be a good cap on the pod yes is we sort of broke out into a gorgeous harmony

on a song we'll sing right now but before we say i want to say i saw i watched impeachment and i thought it was pretty good okay and then now it's a complete culture catch-up okay everyone and a one and a two goodbye to you goodbye to everything that i knew you're the one i love the one thing that I tried to hold on to Goodbye to you Goodbye to everything that I knew You're the one I love The one thing that I try to hold on to

The one thing that I try to hold on to For more of that song, listen to The Spirit Room by Michelle Branch. Now celebrating its 20th anniversary. Wow! We need her on the pod. We need her on the pod. Bye! I'm Cheryl Swoops.

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