Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Tangent Zone" (w/ Jinkx Monsoon)

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

Stars are BACK. Jinkx Monsoon is wrapping up her stint leading Oh, Mary! and she's stopped by Las Cultch to talk about it all! After some Emmys reactions and BTS (so proud of our pals that won!!!!!), the self-proclaimed bossy bottom drops by to discuss enjoying the surreal nature of her life lately, Jeff Hiller's Emmy victory and queer camaraderie in entertainment, "straight voice", and how to pronounce "Penzance". Also, letting Jinkx's own ADHD be Mary Todd's ADHD in Oh, Mary!, and playing drunk. All this, Death Becomes Her, developing new allergies, the problem with eggs, and the lack of MANNERS nowadays! You can see Jinkx's last performances in Oh, Mary! until 9/28! Get thee to the theatre!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.

Ding dong. Las Coulteristas calling. As our guest takes a massive hit of the vape. I'm jealous, to be quite honest. Stars are back. Star behavior is back. Hit the vape. Expand on that.

It's just weed. No, we know. It's just weed. It doesn't matter. This is the thing. Back in the day, like, let's say at the chateau, there would be signs, and I'm saying in the 70s. Yeah.

There'd be signs of the doors that were like, no actors. Like, the revelry. People in showbiz were never moral paragon. No. And now it's like, okay, we all got to, like, behave and like, watch what we say. Walking a street line and walk in your eggshells. No smoking inside. I'm sick of eggshells.

I'm so fucking sick of. It's hard to stoop out of the egg when you crack the egg. Give me the yolk straight away, and you know when I'm coming. You know. Because I call in advance. I make a reservation. This is my own thing. So honey, later.

It's going to be egg forward, period. We just high five for those who can't watch us and are listening to this like it's still just a podcast. It's TV. It's TV. It's a TV show. We're on the idiot box like everyone else. Hey, speaking of TV, the Emmys, I just want to say some shoutouts. Shout out.

Shout out. And I'm aind binder. We're proud of you, baby. Every single bit of you. Every moment. Hannah Einbinder. We love you. Gene Smart.

Kristen Miliety. Oh. It happened. Aaron Doherty adolescence. Love Owen Cooper Adolescence. Owen Cooper Adolescence. Tramel. Honestly, the winners were so fantastic.

And surprising. And we'll save the best for less and say Jeff Hiller. God. What? I said to Bo, I was like, what did that feel like in the room? Quickly tell them. Rapturous, euphoric, volcanic. I would say I erupted from the corona of my crown chakra.

I erupted from the corona of my crown chakra. Corona crown. I'm being redundant and repeating words essentially, but you know what I mean. Like I connected with... That's like a Lord lyric. It's like a lyric by the singer Lord. Well, you're saying Lord is redundant.

Irrupted from the crown of my corona chakra. Anyway, loved, loved. Get them next year, girl. Girl, never. I'm Susan Lucien till I die I think that's really chic for you actually I love it oh well nothing better I get to go to the little parties Go these little parties

Fun so oh wait I have to shout out Go ahead Britney Snow Malin Ockerman Katie Lowe's Rebecca Cutter All the Hunting Wives Everyone involved in hunting wives Because they were the bells of the ball

Everyone turned to Galk and say Wow look at them They are television peak television. Multi. And I want to say, someone dropped out during the broadcast

from presenting. They pulled in Brittany and Malin during the show because Celeste and I sat in front of them. They were like, I guess we're presenting. So chill,

so matter of fact about it, so professional. They were like, yeah, we don't know what the copy is yet. They did not find out the copy until 10 minutes before and I would say

one of the highlights of the night. Sorry, I took me a little to come out. So I had, this is brilliant to hear. And I just want to say I had a night full of highlights the other night

because I went to go, I think my fifth time. Yes. To the Broadway production, O'Mary. Oh, my fifth too. Yeah, right? Because it's kind of at the point now where it's like every time they announce even, even I get like a whiff of a casting rumor and then it comes to be,

I'm like, well, I guess I'm going again and it's never a hardship. It's always a hard. It's always a hard. Me rock hard in the seats for comedy and more. When they post the Degero type of whatever actor in the curls and the braddy curls, as Kola puts it, I go, I guess I'm buying. Can I say this is the year where we've got Colis Scola with a Tony, Jeff Hiller with an Emmy.

Jamal Tillman with an Emmy. Currently our guest on the boards and become a Broadway fixture. And so deservedly so, I can't think of anything more right. Also, since we've last seen our guest, she has won Rupal's Drag Race All Winners, All-Stars, which, what was the title they gave? Seven, all winners. But it was called like Superstar of the Queendom or whatever. always coming up with these long titles, honorifics, if you will.

It is a true joy, as always, to sort of, and let me hit that. Am I allowed? Yeah, of course, honey. So, I trust you, and I'm on. There's trust here. You're on all that? I'm on prep. So because our guys is on prep, we can share this.

And that's a part of everything I need to talk about today. This, or prep. Prep. This is going to be the most prep forward episode. we've ever had. Well, that's on you. We should have been way more prep forward. Well, that's good.

Is that medical? Sure. I mean, I use it medicinally. I got it from a legal dispensary. Okay, well, yes. Are you to wait for you to finish introducing me. By the way, welcome to see you there's Jinks monsoon. We got a little carried away there, but we didn't give you time to bake.

How much I wanted to interject. Interject now, please. Through all of that. Well, first of all, I wanted to name drop constantly because you said, Go. Yeah. Binder, who was a guest judge on All-Stars 7. Gene Smart, who I have yet to meet like face-to-face, but I performed for her at the Tony.

In your Pirates, the Penzance. Those from Penzance. Oh my God, I said it wrong. Penzance. How do you say it? Penzance. And I've watched press people say, Pinsens.

Pinsens. It's the Z that throws them off. These press people. You know, that. might be the one symptom I still feel from weed. Because, like, what I was going to say is, I'm so, like, I seem pretty functional to you right now. I'm on so many other things that negate the weed.

But the weed is just, like, patching in the cracks. I understand. That's how I feel about it. Gene Smart, she was in, call me Izzy, recently on Broadway, across the street from my building. So sometimes I would be getting out of my car and she'd be doing her stage door and I'd get to just like look over and there's Gene Smart. Right. And when that wasn't happening, then I had her giant poster just outside my window. So, fabulous. Life has become really. Jeannie. Life's become very surreal and I've just had to embrace it. Yeah. Because if I sit around commenting on how

surreal it is I'll be one of those people who's like oh my god this is so amazing rather than shut up, enjoy it then this is the new normal. I've been trying to practice talking less. I'm not doing very well. We invited you to a podcast. Because I dominate

everything. Anyway. That's not true. Because I want to be done. You want to be done? Well. I'm what they call a bossy bottom. Right. Anyway. Who's they? Who do they call? The general consensus of queered them. Jeff Hiller recently came to see O'Mary's.

Michael Yuri was also nominated. And of course, I was rooting for my castmate. That's what you do. But also, Jeff is a friend and they are friends with each other. And so, you know, when he came to see the show and Michael and him were hugging and the three of us, were hugging and congratulating each other on kicking a lot of ass as very queer people, unapologetically, so.

I think the last thing I said to them before I departed that night was, now one of you go win that Emmy so a straight guy doesn't get it or something like that. I didn't really know who the rest of the nominees are because I'm completely unplugged from current culture by choice anyway. You got it. By necessity. He was in the very category. So I'm, well, see, we had the odds stack.

And that's what I want to talk about, about like, us kicking ass. Yeah. You know, I'm so, please, do you forgive me? I'm so sorry. I didn't know. Oh, no, no, no. It's something I couldn't care less than. The same applies to you.

If you had been there, I would have said, now one of you. I wasn't in that hot circle. Were you there that night? No, not that night. Oh, my God. Because it's all in the blender at this point. Of course. But that category, I didn't even realize this until after the fact.

Like, I've ever made a little lovely moment out of, like, the boxes when they announced. Like, you know, the three of us sleeping for Jeff, which was me and Coleman and Michael. And I was like, oh, right. It's because this was a, like, for the first time and a long time in, like, not any award show, but in a long since I can remember, like, a mostly gay guy group category, four out of seven. It's an astounding thing to witness. It's like so many things all at once. And I was talking to you about this when you came to see,

Oh, Mary, that there was a scarcity in this industry for us. The visibly unapologetically queer, like, couldn't try to hide it if we wanted to. So why, like, waste my life trying to play characters that aren't right? right for me when I know what's right for me, right? And I can keep pulling this thread, but basically, like, if you look at YouTube with this podcast that's become a TV show, right? And you look at Colis Scola, who wrote O'Mary, and you look at Michael and Jeff and all of these people succeeding. Do you know why we're fucking succeeding right now? Because when no one believed in us, we created our own stuff. You know, you created this when, you created this when,

the roles were scarce. Cole created their own play to create more roles for people like us and look at the roster since, you know, and then it's just, it's this amazing thing. And I was telling Matt, like, when there was the scarcity, it didn't matter what the role was. If there was any role that wasn't like in the box, we were all going for it. It didn't matter if you were a drag queen or a trans woman or a gay guy or, you know, it was like the role's queer, so we all have to find a way to go for it.

And then we're all kind of like, oh, I hope you get it. No, I don't get it. But we're all actually, you know, it was hard. It used to be hard to watch roles go to other performers, not because you don't want it for them, but because you're like, well, there goes that role this year. That's the only one that's going to happen. But now that that scarcity is not a thing, as I was saying to Matt the other night, it is so easy to celebrate each other. Yeah.

You know, like, and I learned all of this from creating the Jinks and Dela Holiday Show, which is my thing that we created, right? So if you look at all these queer artists that are blowing up right now, we've all been doing this for 20 years or something. You know, I don't know how old you are, but we're probably the same age. Yeah, 15, 16 years, literally. Exactly. So it's like, exactly. It didn't happen overnight. But the ability to celebrate one another only just keeps because then we pull each other in rather than fighting with each other.

Rather than competing, we all pull each other in and then recommend each other for roles because we have worked at tearing down those stigmas. And you also get, I think, better at what you do. and funnier when you're surrounded by people who you're inspired by and have things in common with as opposed to pushing those things away just every single time community has been you can draw a direct line to why something succeeded how something got better i think that's why we were also happy for jeff because jeff was this true like an actual leader in in in terms of like comedy gaze or theater gaze if like it was him teaching at UCB or being in in the main stage cast that we all went to go see the shows. He inspires Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson to then come together,

whatever. They have a model for this. They put their show up. Then we all go see their show and go hang out at Barracuda, rest in peace afterwards. It was like us and Cole and Julio and like all of all the New York comedy queers just like hanging out. And then like that's like we always say that was the beginning of actual like New York queer comedy. Well and also for what it's worth, we were also watching you on television. Yes. Yes. You were on TV at that point. But this is happening. like you just described your New York queer comedy community

in the drag world you know Alaska had dragged the musical off-Broadway her and I were her and I and I and Cole and Tommy Dorfman were all nominated

for this acting award with a bunch of muckety mucks and my friend's mom Mia I love to say that I do it as much as I can. My friend's mom, Mia. You know Ms. Mia?

You know, Mia? Anyway, it was incredible to look around at that function, the drama League Awards, and see all the big people who are having a really big moment on Broadway. See lifers in the biz. Lifeers. See, like, people who are household names. I mean, Nick Jonas was sitting right behind me. me, looking down my dress, I'm sure.

Yeah. You know? There was touch. I mentioned Mia Farrow. It was like, and to even be able to look over my shoulder and see Mia Farrow just sitting there and she politely, you know, like, because she's my friend's mom, you know. And she's so incredibly kind. I love her so much.

It's, I, the Pharaoh family are like chosen family to me. Love. So it was incredible to see those faces. and then see familiar. Yeah, of course. You're in the room. Because you were talking about your comedy family in New York. And I just keep thinking about, when YouTube was a brand new website,

that's how long I've been a fan of Colis Scola and Jeffrey Self, starting with just them kind of like dominating short form. as it was being born. So much so that a TV network logo picked them up, and then I watched every episode of Jeffrey and Cole Casserole. So it's like Cole being a huge sensation on Broadway and the ability to celebrate that truly and genuinely. It fuels me to keep going because I'm like,

we got to take this and run. Yeah, there's a place. I was to say, like, the, the scarcity is not, like, fully in the past. Like, it keeps trying to, like, push the front line back. And then that's why we have to double down. And, again, what I'm saying is, like, we created our own stuff, and it's authentic to who we are as performers. And when we get hired for things, because they saw something in your podcast or something, whatever. you can connect the dots.

But, like, when they hire you from your work that's authentically you, then you get to be authentically you in the work they hire you. Yeah, 100. Yeah. Rather than having to show up at an audition and be like, Hi, my name is. Yeah. Matt Rodder.

And you're right. The voice was that love. Can I hear that was the voice? Can I hear your guys is straight voice? No. I don't really. I've never really been able to mask it. Matt certainly does.

I mean, I was. Can you remember it? It gets, you know what's crazy? it gets harder to slip into as I get older and gayer I guess and more comfortable my like Long Island accent and also my masculine thing

but it was kind of like this I guess I mean to be quite honest with you like it was definitely like that immediately it adds the the ditty palety the slurring what it needed to do it did

yes it's shorter vowels you can't push your asses it's I think that's and the upper lip sort of like flex. It's like, I'm not going to see, I don't even want to try it. You don't have to. I'm just curious. You guys, I'm going to do mine for you.

Go. Well, like, back in college, if it was someone I felt safe around and I'd say like, good morning, I'm just cleaning the room. But if it was someone I didn't know or didn't feel safe. Who happened to be in your room while you were cleaning

and what would you say? No, I was the janitor at college. You were? You actually were? Please don't send me on a I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. I thought you were doing like that. Oh, my God.

It was a bit and. And it's true. And it was true. I don't need to come up with fiction. Okay. So, good morning. I'm cleaning your room. It's with some of you're comfortable with.

And then say it was someone else. It probably would have sounded like, hey, just cleaning. You know, like just trying to be. Because when I tried to do a straight voice, it sounds like what I did jokingly and it starts sounding funny. And then people are like, what is this? Because, like, if I, I can pitch my voice very low. Do the lowest you can do.

This would be the lowest I can do. But it's like that coming out of me is like, what the fuck? It's really special. I only learned how to do that. The next snatch game is who? Who is that? That sounds like, please. Okay, you're not going on snap.

Let's not pontificate that. But no, no, no. The point is, it's like I learned that playing that cowardly lion. in high school, but it's such a character... That was your take on the Cowardly Lion? Oh, well, I would slip into it when he would be... When he would try to be braids. Yeah, yeah, it's like my actual Cowardly Lion voice was,

Oh, Dorothy! Really good. Oh, no. Really a dandy. I'm a snagglepus ex at stage laugh. You forget that he was kind of giving pop. If I were king of the forest But the thing is, it's not an attractive...

It doesn't, it doesn't, it's the... It doesn't lend to the rules I play these. Right, these ingenuous. But I think you bring it... I think you are bringing a very, shall I say, like full spectrum of gender to marry. I think that's your unique take on Mary. Like, you go, I'm screaming like a fucking manned!

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screamers. I think you have to, you're screaming in such a considered way. And I imagine there's some vocal, like, exercise or health that helps. Well, I've been joking. This is my easy answer because if I try to give the real answer, then it's like a 10-minute conversation because I go on tangents. Anyway, the quick, fun answer I say is, well, I worked as a drag queen for over 20 years and I still do. So I've worked in every shitty venue and had to find a way to be heard in every crappy situation. And so I've learned a lot of different tricks. The true thing is every role I've played because I always like to start with like, I don't like a character having my voice. I want to find, even if it sounds like my voice, I want to find the like

the ways it's different. What's Mary's voice? Just a little more... Sorry, I have to like... Yeah, I'm not putting you on the spot. I can't drop into her. No, right, right, right. But just qualitatively, like, what do you think it is?

I think Mary's one of the closer to my actual voice over the years I have picked up from every character different techniques. Like, I know I can pitch my voice that low because I played the cowardly lion once and I found that trick then and I never lost it. And so all of my screaming is very particularly placed and pitched so that if I growl here, then I know I have to kind of like whisper yell here until I can get another drink of water,

cough and clear my throat and whatever I need to do to then growl again. So I plot a course, and that's what I do with rehearsal is I get very technical about, okay. My dresser has to be here backstage with a bottle of Ascensha. I come with my own. I'm sorry. I don't rely on people to just have my brand.

So you're carrying. I'm carrying. You're carrying. But what was the thing? Oh, Mary, well, she's like more white and she goes a lot more nasal. Yeah, yeah, yes. Probably helps.

Then there's moments where she's, She just, you know, like she just is all, she's very erratic. It's just with Mary, I've mentioned it a few times, but I like to clear my head of what's going on in my life as best I can. Everyone who works with me knows like two hours before showtime, please don't hit me up with something crucial that's going to throw me off course because that is like when I'm listening to my playlist and I'm doing my makeup and I'm checking in with the cast. and I'm getting into the mindset. And then this is the first time I've ever been cognizant of the fact that I go on stage with a clear head and then let my ADHD be Mary's ADHD.

And I realized, in retrospect, I was totally doing that with Ruth, too. But with Ruth, I was calling it her hearing problem. With Audrey, I was calling it her, like, nervousness around men. So I always have found a way to disguise it so that, like, if I'm fully locked in and present with everyone on stage, then my ADHD is seeing every little thing. And when people say I'm good at improv, it's because I keep my peripheral open as much as possible. And probably that came from having to walk down to the street as a queer person. And having, I think about that a lot too.

with my noise cancellation headphones in. I stopped to go to the street once because you had those headphones in and I had to like, I had to really get in your eye line. And it was amazing. Because I'm laser focused in Times Square. It's the way you have to be. We stomp. We're stompers to our music on the street.

Yeah. It's the only way to get through it. You have to make a game of it. You have to move. You have to move. Yeah, 100%. I do think that those games did help walking the streets of New York. It's like, I see where I'm going.

Like, yeah, there's something. You're in a tunnel. The thing I feel is, so before being able to call it ADHD or whatever special acute thing is going on up here, ADHD is like pretty much what it looks like, right? Whatever's going on up here when I thought my brain was broken, I wanted to suppress all of it because I. I just didn't want people thinking, what a freak, you know. Right. As soon as I started working with a psychiatrist and a therapist, and they helped me identify what I'm dealing with here.

And I'm on, like I said, I'm on medication that helps me with all my symptoms. And so I just want to say publicly, when I'm hitting my vape, it's not because I don't take my work seriously. It's because the vape, it fills in the cracks, like I said. if I have 10 thoughts going on Yeah, you limit them. It goes down to five. I think this thing around that is kind of gone.

But, you know, like, that's another tangent heavy tangent zone. There should be warning. But yeah, no, I mean, that's very interesting that that's... Yeah. That's a truth. Because I feel like there are roles that are complementary to that kind of thought. like that kind of like attention to things that you have with your ADHD as you're on stage and as you're plugged in to people.

I think Mary is one of those roles, right? Absolutely because you could look at her and think she's a sociopath and that's one way to play her and that's, I mean, that's what I thought the first time I saw it. But now that I've worked with her and had to empathize with her and had to get inside trying to decode Cole's very, very like perfectly written show. There's a reason why it works so well

with so many different guests. Like the writing is just incredible. And so there's a lot of material there to pick apart and figure out why she does what she does. And so I was like, well, sociopaths one way to go, but I always like to go. everything's genuine because that raises the stakes.

Like if the character isn't lying and this whole time they secretly have a secret that negates everything they're doing on stage or whatever, I don't know, whatever the internal monologue, I'm like, no, I want to make sure I'm committing to the truth of what's going on with this character. And Scott Ellis was talking a lot about that in Pirates. It's like, it's a farce, but for the characters, the stakes are life and death. Yeah, yeah. And that's what makes it funny, is committing to that truth for them.

So this was just kind of affirming something I was already kind of like figuring out for myself. And so, anyway, that was a tangent. But I was like, sociopath means she's doing all of this just because she doesn't care. Right. But ADHD can mean she says it very loudly. I'm so bored. And I know that feeling. and Cole and I are both people who used to drink and don't anymore, right?

So I'm like, okay, things are lining up, things are lining up. I'm like, she's bored. Everything that happens gives her a new idea. She used to use alcohol to numb it down. And fill this time. And then that pulls another thread. I'm like, okay, that's why she wants the alcohol so bad. it's not necessarily that you know it's like don't you understand it's the thing that you all want me

to behave normal and she believes that's the thing that's going to help her behave normal I've fucking been there yeah but then the whole idea of like alcohol helping you feel normal is the tipping point is like yeah why fuck with that right because it's so easy to overdo it and then you can't back pedal I want to talk about playing drunk because like it's this thing that like seems a little bit trivial it seems like all actors can do it all comedians can do it they can't it's hard it's very hard and I feel like there's um you know a feature in the show where you're talking about like um there's a moment a couple moments in the show where Mary is like drunk like one particular moment but I feel like and I haven't really

gotten to talk to Cole about this but I feel like they wrote the show as a way to like make sense of their addiction in a way. I have to imagine. I mean, Mary is this erratic character that, like I said, the first time I saw, I thought she was a sociopath. And then I spent some time with the material, and I'm sure if I had seen it a second time, I would have, like, unlocked it faster. You saw just once before?

With Cole before getting a role, and then I stuck. in a few more times. Anyway, the point being that I just felt like she's not a sociopath, she's dealing with real things for her. And then I know that Cole said they wrote the role to share parts of themselves that they had previously never thought of putting on stage, right? knowing that and I've been saying this a lot

because people keep saying to me which is the hugest compliment because like I said this is like a perfect play it's incredibly written it's incredibly structured if you do the text analysis this is like a tight well-constructed play

you can tell that people who really cared about it put a lot of work into it it's got one of the best monologues too and like the great day monologues It's like, I think, one of the grades. I think I had a different point, but it's like it's great material to work with. So it's easy to find all of this stuff.

And I keep saying, oh, Cole and I have lived parallel lives, right? I've been saying this a lot. Cole, not necessarily a drag queen, but has played many drag roles or roles where Cole was, you know, gender bending. if we're still even calling at that these days. I'm thinking like it was just Cole being Cole, right? Like, you know Cole. It's like Bernadette Peters, Cole. Yeah, it felt very authentic.

I'm like, I couldn't call that drag because it was just one wig and some lipstick. It wasn't drag. It was like channeling. Yeah. And so I've thought this for a while. We met 13 years ago, Cole and I, colonoscopy, Cole and I.

In Australia, that was the first time we met, but I had been a lifelong fan. And so me and Cole and Jeffrey run into each other because we're all on comedy tours in Australia. And I started, I was like, you're on a comedy tour in Australia. I'm on a comedy, like, oh my gosh, I started to feel like these people

that inspired me to be so queer in my work because they were making it work for themselves am I like kind of catching up with them you know it was this moment of like are we all kind of doing the same thing you're orbiting each other right you know the feeling

and then it's like and then as it became more normal to know them it was just kind of like oh we do the same thing in different ways and thinking of that it's like the hugest compliment when people say it feels like this role was written for you and I'm like it wasn't

it was written for Cole It just happens to be so well written and so true to life that anyone who has lived a similar life or can easily like transpose what Mary's going through onto their life like I was easily able to do. Yeah. Because we lived these parallel lives. It's like, no, it wasn't written for me,

but you can see why people say it, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, clearly it's speaking to both of your lives in this fascinating way. And I also was thinking about the Great Day monologue as like actually an anxious thought. You know what I mean? That whole monologue is actually one big ADHD tunnel that you can get through about like it's literally her racing towards something before it's even had the chance to be because she's so and it panics her. And like what I love about that moment is like the the opportunity it gives the audience to realize they care.

Like it's because you may not have actually even realized. You know, I kept saying, I thought she was a sociopath. That's probably the point in the show where I go, she's not a sociopath. Her circumstances are dire. Yeah. And then I think about, you know, now that I've spent so much time with the material, her circumstances are life and death. Yes.

In no uncertain terms, it's not like interpreting it. Her circumstances are life and death. Yeah. And I just relate to Mary so much. but I know so many people do. And again, that's a credit to the writing, a credit to the direction. But I was going to, I almost didn't want to share this because I'm like, am I really going to give away this secret to my performance?

Give it. While I'm still in the run, but you only have like a week left. Oh, okay. The Great Day monologue, for those in the know, for me, my great day is literally playing Mary on Broadway. Oh, that's that easy. And I was like, I bet Cole was thinking that too when they wrote this. And I'm like, Cole didn't know this was going to be on Broadway when they wrote this.

They just wrote something so true to what it feels like. Yeah. When you were born to do this and you have known it your whole, like I'm talking whole life. Yep. Like as long as I've known that I was trans and a redhead, I've also known I was an actor. a performer, a singer, at all. I mean, you have you have six great days and one of them is a great matinee day.

Two of them are sometimes? Yeah. Oh, we have two days. If you're great days playing Mary, then you have like... So many great days. I call it Double Soup Tuesday at the Orphanarium. If you watch Futurama, you get it.

You make me feel like Double Soup Tuesday at the Orphanarium. That would be my day too. Double Soup Tuesday. Every day's double soup Tuesday. I had soup today, actually. When I play Mary, every day is double soup Tuesday. I love that. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now.

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Did I say this the last? No, I don't think you did. Thank God's. Because that's the dramaturgy I did, okay? Yes. I can literally, I've been thinking about why it made me. What is striking right now? Well, one huge factor is that because I'm realizing this was a very cool rule of my mothers.

I was allowed to watch basically. to watch basically anything without gratuitous sex or like raunchy nudity as long as I watched it with her so I could ask questions and she could put it into context. Very smart. Very smart and cool because her and I, our thing together, was to watch horror movies together because we love horror movies. Anyway, so Death Becomes Her was called like a horror comedy, a dark comedy. You watch it now and it's like, that's not.

that dark, you know. I saw Dix the musical, you sick. And that's darker. God was a faggot in that. So dark. Dark side of it. You sick, mother. So anyway, my mom rented death

becomes her, and I realized a huge factor was because of where my birthday lies, instead of starting at age four in kindergarten and turning five, two weeks later, they decided to keep me at home another year

because my mom had just been in this horrible car accident, the car exploded on us while we were in the car and all the steam burnt up my mom's legs. So she decided for us to stay home together for a year. We were living with my grandmother. And that meant

we spent a lot of time watching movies together and she'd make semi-regular trips to the movie store, the movie rental place. The Blockbuster, if you will. For the VHS. And I'd request Death Becomes Her every time. And then I'd just watch it on a loop.

So when I tell you, and I watched it again last night in preparation for today, I have never tested it. So I don't want to make this hyperbolic statement that I can't back up, but I'm fairly certain I could say every line. Wow. I believe you. I could do it with the movie, definitely. But I'm fairly certain I could just do it from memory.

Could you do? But I don't want to be certain about that. because there's all those interstitial scenes that don't include Merrill or Goldie. Or Isabella, you know what I mean? But I'm saying even though you should, while the musical is concurrently on Broadway, you should stage a one person,

Jenks Monsoon. Does the movie, word for word, of Death Becomes Her? Listen, if I had capacity for anything else at this point, I mean, that sounds like a great plan for next year. And next year isn't too far away. This Christmas,

We want to see it. We want to see it. That's the Jinks and De La Holiday show. This year is... Just open up for yourselves. Well, I say every line. Dela lip sinks it. Playing every character.

Literally unbeatable entertainment. I say every line live from memory, and she lip sinks live to me speaking live. To a live simultaneous vote. Not tracks from the movie, not any, like, audio from the movie. But all the underscores. which is available on Spotify because it's on many of my playlists.

Oh, I do love that. It's funny, you think you're going to the Jinks and Dela Death Becomes Her to see one of you play Goldie and one of you play Marilyn. The gag is that it's just you speaking and her lip syncing. So we both are the entire movie. Exactly. In this way, you both get to live out both. Perfect. And speaking of the musical.

Amazing. I can't stop listening to the music. He just recently saw it, too. But I got to say, I told this directly to Megan. Sorry, Megan Hilton. Yeah, of course. You know, Jen and Megan and Michelle, they were also wonderful. The girls.

Destiny's Child. Watching my kids. Meg from Destiny's Child. Hilty from Destiny's Child. Jennifer Simard. Imagine the Beyonce Super Bowl, but with them popping out. Yes. Oh, my gosh.

They would be amazing I saw the show I was thoroughly entertained from start to finish We went to the same mind to that with Jen Harris That's right Yes yes And Gen Jershan

And Jena Roshan I'm so glad I'm in good company Yes To name drop so fervent Oh my gosh Okay so you went to go see the show I said to Megan Didn't get a chance to say it to Jen

But Jen and I have a special relationship I'll talk about that next But I said to Megan You and Jen and, really, Michelle, all three of them, like, delivering incredible drag performances. Oh, yeah. You know, like, and it's just really inspiring to see the doors I have opened. Honestly. For them to be creative drag on Broadway.

You created the type. They were able to do drag on Broadway. They were. Paul Taswell was able to design drugs. Yes, he did those. Yes, he did those months. Because you three years ago. Those moms stopped.

I told you by the time we, no, you weren't with us. I'm teasing, of course, but I thought of that joke while I was brushing my teeth. So I, I had to get it out. That was fresh for you. And if I didn't do it,

I would have been so pissed and I would have been anxiety texting you afterward. Jen Samard and I presented together at the Drama Desk Awards. different from the Drama League Awards. Oh, yeah, there's a Drama League. And hopefully I got them in the right.

Yeah, I was Drama League. Nick Barish was Dramadest. So anyway, I'm presenting with Jen. We're both very feminine redheads. I made the joke while we're presenting because she was wearing a low-cut dress. Amazing boobs. Yeah.

Sorry. I mean, yeah, I mean, like. They're out on. J-S-M-R. Great test. That's the thing is, like, if you're going to wear a dress like that, it's probably because you know you have incredible debt. Flauntable assets.

Flauntable assets. If you've got to flaunt it, right? So we're presenting. We're standing next to each other kind of looking a little like each other except some key differences, right? And so I said, I feel like we're standing at opposite ends of a feminine spectrum. Come here. And she said, but both redheads.

And I was like, yeah, yeah. And then, so now every time I see her, she does this thing that I absolutely adore and I hope saying it publicly doesn't mean she stops doing it because I hate when that happens. When I tell someone I like something they do and then the next day they stop doing it

because they feel insecure of this thing. They should never stop. I was actually giving them their flowers on. Anyway, she just goes, that's my friend. That's my friend That's my friend That's my friend

And then she comes over to me And we take a picture And she goes It's my friend And I think it's very cute I just fucking love it They're all so incredible I've been singing along to the soundtrack

And Chris Sieber Incredible Oh he's so good It's so good He's incredible Christopher Catali Amazing direction The character of

Stefan Actors' name is escaping me right now because I haven't been on Instagram in weeks, so I haven't seen his name recently. But so good. Like, what a great way to flesh out a throwaway character from the movie. You know what I mean? 100%. I mean, you love Death Becomes Her so much that, because, and I know this ties back to what you were saying in the beginning.

Like, you know, you were making things when there weren't opportunities given. I mean, like, fresh off the Drag Raceman in Season 5, you do this documentary called Drag Becomes Her. And, like, I think that, I think there is this, like, spiritual, like, importance to this film that you have in you. Well, yeah. And, like, beyond, like, the performances and the looks and, like, this memory with your mom. I feel like I learned every... Okay, so, part of my dramaturgy of this, I'm, like, trying to make it all make sense of why it made me. So, one big thing I do with my characters these days is I, you know, I start with financial.

their voice, but I also start with finding their relationship to power because I see how people with immense power behave. And it was something we talked about in acting school. And the best advice about playing drunk, I got in acting school. I went to Cornish College of the Arts in Seattle, Washington. Howell Ryder said to me, the mistake young actors make about playing drunk is going like, oh, I'm drunk, blah, blah, blah. A drunk person tries to hide the fight act. Yeah, they're trying to focus. You know, you know what I mean? Anyway,

oh God, that damn. Relationship to power. Power. Relationship to power. People who have a lot of power can either be benevolent or malevolent. You know, they can either abuse it or they can be generous with it. And that's a spectrum, right? And then I've spent a lot of time doing pieces set in specific time periods where women had limited agency. And I've been thinking about that a lot as a trans woman in this time period

and how there is something spiritual right now for me. I feel it very deeply as a witch that helping tell the disenfranchisement story, helping talk about these women who probably have bad reputations, yes, or I don't know that the real Mary taught, she has a freckled reputation, let's say. But, you know, I'm like,

some of these women that seem so extreme, I'm thinking Judy Garland, right? Like, you know, we know how and why she passed away at a very early age. And then I try to, since I've spent so much time with her, I try to think of like, um, you know, um, what she was dealing with, the context of her life, being completely disenfranchised and having almost no agency in your life. And then you are a household name that has to like convince people to hire you because

you promise you'll be on your best behavior, you know, like that duality in a person to know you have that inside, but you also have this inside. Yeah, and for everyone to know you have it too, and that gives them even more power because you are the one that they're controlling. Exactly. And so I was thinking today about Madeline Ashton and Helen Sharp and their relationship to power. Right.

And they both believe that their power is direct. from their sex appeal. Because there's a man in the mix. Because there's a man in the mix. Yeah. Right. Like Helen has found her dream man. And she believes, you know, she says,

I need to see you could pass the Madeline Ashton test. Like, that's the final test before we get married. Because if you meet her after we get married and you can't pass the test, it will break me. Right. I just know it will because it almost has every other time it's happened, right? So when Madeline is able to steal him away, she's like, of course, because she's sexier than I am. And then she gives up on her life.

And then she finds a way to sex appeal, which is going to give her the power to get back at someone like Madeline Ashton, who even though was a personal friend has a lot of protection around her, right? she calculates this whole freaking plan. Madeline Ashton is dealing with the fact that as a woman in Hollywood, her youth and her beauty are her power. That's her power. So, you know, it's also sex appeal, but it's like Helen's need for the potion is completely different from Madeline's, but they are both because of their extreme circumstances.

And those extreme circumstances, like you've already mentioned, were because a man was in the mix and because they're women at that time. So I just lined it up with my own life and that's what gives it the spiritual meaning. I'm like, as long as I'm helping, you know, tell those stories authentically and helping you care for the character

that at first glance seems that's a crazy person, right? But then when you really listen to her and really empathize, with her, and if you can get your audience to do that, then they realize this is just a woman under extreme circumstances, and then hopefully, hopefully, that sinks in, whoever they are, whether they needed to hear it, or whether they already knew it. It's either a beautiful affirmation, or it's a lesson that I swear to God's, I hope they got, you know? Well, it's all about like, and this is something

you probably experienced in your own life where it's like, what is my locus of control? Like, do I make things happen or do things happen to me? And death becomes her is about two women who like make things happen because things have happened to them. Does that make sense? I know we're a little stone but it's like that's... No, I'm in

I have never been more lucid. No, it's like with death becomes her, I thought about this today when I'm telling you I'm prepared. This is what I mean. Death becomes her. It's like drag queens keep things alive that are important to us.

And queer people do too, you know. But like drag queens are the ones that like keep it present in the queer culture. We are the ones who every year deliver those costumes that make you remember those characters. Or we do the drag parody version of it. or we do drag numbers inspired by when Madeline Ashton falls down the stairs, which I saw at a nightclub that had along. You could either wait. They could either hit the music when you made your way to the stage.

Like you could quietly, discreetly make your way to the stage and then hop up and they hit the music. Or because they had a follow spot, you could start at the top of a staircase. It's like if you actually didn't fell down the stairs while that music was. Luckily, I never did because I always started at the top of the staircase. I'd be like, the dress is Chanel, the shoes were, like walking down the stairs. It was like, it's a, I see me. You know, like, it was a chance to do that, right? And so I think it was there.

I think I saw, I hope it was there. And I didn't tell that whole thing for no reason. But I hope the drag queen hears the story, whoever or wherever she was. She did a number where it was like. started with her at the top of the stairs doing like, I see me, or maybe she didn't do that number, whatever. She's doing a number at the top of the stairs in like the blue costume. And then fakes falling down the stairs.

There's like sound covering it and stuff. The follow spot is like looking for her. At the bottom of the stairs, she rips off the blue costume and now she's got the tits on back. You see that the tits are on her back. and she's got the costume on backward and that the neck's all twisted and then I don't remember what the number was

but she performed a number. But it doesn't matter what the number was because as long as it was the perfect number, it's like, how fucking brilliant is that? So we keep these things alive for each other and down that we are having this moment where we are culture makers. You know, we are culture.

I mean I mean your award show I was seeing the pictures from it and I was having What did you think of the pictures Yeah I just thought no I was having

Probably the worst FOMO of my life You know Not because I wanted to be nominated But because I was like Look first of all look at all my friends And then second of all look at all those like fucking muckety mucks it's just like the drama league award luncheon.

It's like, can you believe... Army of Fowler was Goldblum. Can you believe that you are... Again, that you get to be in a room where you look at someone... Yeah, of whoever. And then you look over and you see... Well, that was one of your friends.

...parts of watching it, I think, because the cuts to the audience... The cutts to the audience were the best because it was like, oh my God, there's our friend Bianca. And then there's, you know, Sarah Michelle, And it was, it was just, it was a real treat for just us and also our friends, like, as the, does those circles get bigger? You know, so many people were involved in it.

And I was like, wow, this is like a very personal experience that we're having watching this because it's people that we love intimately. And there's people that we love, like externally all cities to each other. And that was very cool. Like I said, life is surreal, but I don't want to waste too much time commenting on it. I want to just really fucking enjoy it. It's like, you know, when you take a party drug, you know you have so many hours on that drug, if you spend the whole time going,

am I acting weird? Am I acting weird? Am I acting weird? That's what I'm trying to say about the whole surreal thing. Like if every time you saw me, you were like, hey, Jinks, how are you? And I was like, oh, oh, my gosh. I can't believe how many famous people I meet every day.

if that's how that's not what I want to be I want to be plugged into it and then if it comes up naturally in a story I'll fucking drop the name of course but I don't want to start the conversation there I want a conversation

to happen naturally because I'm looking the person in the eyes and actually having the conversation you don't want to be perpetually reflective because then you're not actually experiencing anything new and that's it sometimes I just look down in my glass

and I say I love this I'm in the present I love the shape Is that your Meisner exercise? Is that your Meisner? Is that your Meisner? Is that technically Miser? It's like, yeah, it's like you have a cup.

Oh, I have a cup and it's This is a cup. This could hold so much. The possibility of this cup. I sometimes want to go back. Not back. I never went. But I think it would be interesting

to go for like two or three weeks to like an acting school and like get on the ground and eat the lemon. I think they have that. I probably could do it, huh? I think we both. shit. Let's go. I could use the classes. Well, it would just be, like, because

there were all those tales they would tell back in why you, like, people that were in, like, theater, theater school. And, like, they'd be rolling on the ground. I saw that character you did on YouTube and the UCB. What was your worst villain? Batman villain?

Batman villain. Could have just been the worst actor's actor, you know? It was amazing. Thank you. Wow. No, I ever brings that up. That's a really good one. Why does no one ever bring up your Batman villain character from the UCB Archive on YouTube? Well, you know what? It's just funny.

I saw it when it was fresh. That's nage. When it was going on, that was such a part of like, we had a different iteration of our lives. And that was what I was doing. I was doing character work all the time. It's just from a phase of my life that was never this. So no one ever really knows or engaged with that. It's funny.

It's like relevant, I think, to. like the conversation is it's like when someone knows you as something a lot or does it know you as one thing? That's like a something you have to break through. And then also like you know you two and I think of Josh

Sharp and Aaron Jackson I mentioned I love that movie. Did I mention I love? You did? Oh, you did. You said it was dark. You said it was dark? Oh, I was being snitching for comedy. But it's actually I'll tell you the same thing I told the boys

I love that I love that I love you fucking said no I'll tell you the same thing we went to dinner sometime after

I had watched the movie a couple times and I said I need to tell you I love the film however I had to come to that decision only because

my anxiety around the idea of the whole slippery slope argument and then I really thought about it and I really thought about it and I was like that's their fear, not mine. I know

that that's not real. How come straight men can make the most disgusting vile, horrible jokes but if it's you know normalized then we just go man being men or boys being poison

and I thought they weren't making movies like that anymore and I'm like oh no I just stopped seeing them. The beautiful thing I love is the movie is satirical. And it's like showing you, do you see how ridiculous you're being? That's like, to me, it's like, this is the most ridiculous thing you can imagine.

Let's show them. Let's show them what that actually looks like. There's no slippery slope. We're off the mountain. It's like we're saying God is a faggot. It's like, it's the, we're saying the most, the craziest thing. And it's a wonderful song.

And it's a great song. And you want to sing it off. And I started saying to myself, it's like, why do Trey Parker and Matt Stone get to make their shitty commentary? And no matter what they say, it's like, it's satire, it's satire. And so they can be as transphobic as they want it's satire, it's satire, don't get offended, it's satire. And I was like, well, thank the gods that we are at this point now that queer people are, one, there's not the scarcity. Two, we don't have to be a singular archetype of character. We can, I described it as like when I played a Doctor Who villain, it's like,

I'm so glad I'm here in this era when queer people are back to being villains. Because it was when we realized that queer people being villains was a mockery, you know, of our characteristics. And that stopped being a thing. Well, now we're back to queer people being actors in mainstream things. That's not so crazy so we can be villains again. Anyway, and then you and the boys have a mutual connection in UCB, and it reminds me that, like, drag races, this sisterhood where we don't even have to be on the same season.

Yeah. But those of us, like I said, the familiar faces, like, I mean, I could list them, but, like, there's so many drag queens doing things that I think. 20 years ago when I started drag I thought that's surely not possible when I started in college and gave up drag

briefly, seasonally and told myself I had to give up drag to be a serious actor that was a lie I told myself by the way um protective or something

yeah yeah I was just scared that if I got labeled as a drag queen that was an end of the versatility of my acting. Then I eventually made the decision, you know, like, yeah, they warn you about being pigeonholed and they warn you like, do you just want to be a character actor? Do you want to have the ability to do everything? And I'm like, well, I know I have the ability to do everything, but I also know I'm one hell of a character actor. So if I put that foot forward, at least I'm

guaranteeing work. And I worked a lot straight out of college. And I did a lot of classical work that was stuff that, like, that's a drag queen playing mistress quickly in Henry V. And half the people didn't know it was a drag queen, you know? So I've always been doing what I do. It's just like I found my way in. And drag and drag race has allotted so many of us a way into doing something we were damn sure we could do. Yeah. Like Bob the Drag Queen says it, like, why she auditioned.

She said she was, she's a stand-up comedian and a brilliant actor and lots of things, right? Bob is an incredible human whom I love. And lots of things. Has lots of partners for all the things. Many different versions. No, I'm teasing. But the many shades of Bob the Drag Queen. No, it's just like, again, with a tangent.

She needed the platform to get those opportunities. I saw Drag Race and I said, I could do that. But she also knew she could do a lot of others. And she's doing that thing. And Rue says it all the time. Like, if God, and I'd say if, you know, the goddesses or if the universe or if whatever opens a fucking pathway, like, take it. And if you know you have other things.

in you, you'll find a way to redirect yourself back there, even if it's just a hobby. You know, there's some people who have hobbies that have nothing to do with their work, and they love that. My work is my lifestyle, so it's hard to, I mean, video games are my, that, I guess. Video games, and, oh, you know what? And that's why I won't do, like, I did, like, I'll do, like, a limited, like, I'm going to stream a video game for a charity or for whatever, you know, like. But you're not going to commodify it otherwise

Exactly, because that's mine And it has nothing to do with drag Other than the fact that it inspires some of my looks Well, that fills the well Yeah, 100% Well, I hope you've taken notes at home We will move into, I don't think so honey here now Is this how long the episode was supposed to be

Or did I go over? No, no, no, you are we're going to end at 30 when you said Because I'm so verbose and I always overtop But I kept identifying when it was a tangent Because we started with To the meds I don't need to rehash You can scroll back in the video

Because this is a TV show And you could just You know listen to the episode once more As I'm sure lots of you people do Because I listen to people I do the same things over and over and over Because I identify with that New things to it every time

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to do my, I don't think so many about something new in my life, which is frustrating. This is our 60-second segment we take to rant and rave, rail, wreck, things in a culture that need to be all those things. So here we go. You have something. Yeah, I have something. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, that you can develop new allergies. If I, my entire life, haven't had a thing. I don't want the thing at 35, suddenly what a random age for you to attack me, goddess, or Mother Nature, whoever. What I'm talking about is the fact that I sometimes have to put a little makeup on for our jobs. And I think that I, around my eyes, you can see, I've developed some sort of contact dermatitis, rosacea, and more around my eyes. Suddenly, I have a skin allergy. I have like, I got to go hypo, I guess. They're saying words to me like hypoallergenic.

And I have always loved going places and them saying, do you have any allergies and saying no? Suddenly you're going to throw this barricade in front of me and I'm going to have to leap over it like the hurdler would. And I don't want a hurdle. I want to sit on the side and enjoy my life of not this rash. I don't think so, honey. And I still have more time, huh?

Itchy, itchy, boo, boo. I don't think so, honey. Itchy, itchy, boo, boo. That's one minute. I all of a sudden, like, it'll be the day after a two days. my face will break out suddenly I have like sensitive skin why no because our immune systems are oh I hate the begin hate that transition I what what do you mean our immune systems they do get worse don't they it's it's it's out of our hands I don't know why we haven't evolved out of

makeup oh you're probably right I'm saying but I'm I don't know we need a psychologically and like emotionally and spiritually evolve out of makeup yeah I mean I'm mostly physiologically like evolve out make it because otherwise because it's just the allergy that's getting right you're right exactly i okay and either would work we can we can physiologically age out but we need we do like to have it for play um but yeah no for some reason like it's just it's been happening and i guess i got to see my derm i think the answer to why late in life at first i was had to respect that it was your time because i want to be like tell me all now like like No, just my own thoughts.

Not like I have any real information. Just I think about this. But why do you think they happen? Well, because there's so many things being put in our stuff. Uh-huh. We have no fucking idea. I mean, you know, we're having the microplastics conversation. Oh, we are having that conversation.

I don't even want to pull up this thread because then people weaponize that idea, which is true. But then skew it. To be something else. To be something else. And I don't even need to list. No, we all know. Examples. I know that I have a PS5 controller in my brain.

That's the amount of microplastics that I have. You think that it's, yeah, they say that the amount of microplastics in all of our brains is like, yeah, it's like, it's a solid matter if they really want to put it together. It's cuckoo-crazy. I have at least quadruple that. Based on the microwave meals that I eat for pleasure. Oh. when I am stoned

and I'm going to go home and eat my mizalinas. Yeah, do you ever have a little microwave lasagna? All the time. My stofer's

and I've been cutting back ever since the microplastics conversation has moved in this. No, I'm glad we're talking about this. Come out of the closet. I have another food thing

and that's why I don't think so many. This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so many. His time starts now. I don't think so many eggs. What the fuck? What are you? Someone explained to me

the egg of it all it's a bunch of plasma and a yoke and there's a film around that where you if you crack the egg the membrane of the egg is the thing that makes it hard so that if you have shards of egg

in your container in which you are trying to whisk the egg it is virtually impossible to take out to extract a shard of egg shell you need guess what another piece of egg shell to scoop it out

but then that runs the risk of more eggshell going into the fucking thing that you go, no, I guess I'll try my luck with a spoon, a chopstick, but then no, it is always, it is never worth it. And this morning, I, I've been practicing my one hand egg crack because guess what, I turn myself on. That's right.

I get off to myself when I crack a neck with one hand. And then I looked like a damn fool eating a shard-filled omelet while I could have been having something actually normal. Don't eat meat, only eat. don't go animal based only plant based that's one in it I didn't know

you yeah I'm sorry yeah no no no don't even do that I could not agree with sit down no but that doesn't deserve a standing OJ's yes it does because I have spent my whole life

yeah having to explain to people the egg the shard the shell no it's just like first of all yes you are correct on all of that but the standing ovation was just to find another person who had that by many complaints of eggs

because they are such a popular food. The way you scoff. Well, because I had them today. Right. Okay, that's what I've dealt with my whole life is everyone likes eggs. Everyone loves eggs. And do I like things where eggs are an ingredient?

Of course. But eggs. Dealing with them. Eating them. As the thing, I don't like. It is horrible. So also dealing with them, but I just don't, I don't like the flavor. I don't like the texture.

There's so many ways to prepare them. I've tried them all. Don't like them. I don't like eggs. But then I say that and then people think I'm vegan, so then I have to go on this whole fucking thing. And if they don't do that, then I go, I don't like eggs. And they go, you don't like eggs? Have you tried them scrambled?

Have you tried them fried? And then I'm like, oh my God, please not again with the eggs. So most of the time when people, and then it's like, you don't like eggs? Are you vegan? And I'm like, yeah, I'm vegan because I'm like, this will save time. And then the breakfast I am delivered is. It's nothing because they didn't have anything. It's a piece of bread.

It's so shocking whenever anyone thinks that just like a piece of bread is toast. Yeah, it's sliced fruit and a piece of bread is not toast. It's a little culture number six. A piece of bread is not toast. The creativity that disappears when you say, I don't want an egg in my thing. Well, they go, oh, well, I guess we could do... We don't have any tofu.

It's like, why? I think it's because of the consistency. I don't like the egg itself. So, anyway, I feel like you can like eggs themselves, but your ability to hate them that much at the same time to hold that much capacity for it. of hatred for eggs. I have finally found

one other person who at least shares some kind of passion about that hatred. I have a bad comedy idea for you guys. You and Jinks should sing.

Rihanna, hate that I love you. So, you know that one? But like with eggs in the back, this is like a bad comedy idea you'd do it like Littlefield in 2013. Those were the days.

Those were the days. And I, represent the hate and Bowen represents the love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I feel like it's very like 90s throwback. You guys would- Ebony and Ivory. Tear at that.

With me and Bo and Bo. A duet with Jenks. You know what you imagine. A duet with Joe. Bowen. A do-it with Joe. A do-work with Joe. You could never be Joe.

But I do want to say this about the microplastics and the Michelinas. I always said Michelinas. Anyway, listen, I ate them. Gastalina and Michelin together. Michelina. I ate them in college. Yes.

Delicious. Delicious. Delicious. Listen, though. You were in Wicked. Yeah. Those are like a dollar of pop. I'm sure they're like, what, five bucks a pop now?

They were a dollar a pop in college. Yeah. Are you saying you could probably get a deal? There's something about... The point is, you can get something that is exactly like that. That might cost more, but it will be so much kinder to your body, and it will satisfy all the same things. And I'm not even saying healthy. I'm not even saying healthy.

You have reached this point in your career that if you want to get a take home, take and bake, lasagna, or if you want to get something that you put in your oven, I know. You know what? You probably have the money to get one of those air fryers. The number? I mean, there's so many things. You could really step up your game, is all I'm saying, unless what you need is the Michelinas. In which case I totally get because I have a can of dinty more beef stew for the very same reason.

I was going to say, but I know that there is going to be a day I just. just once again need to taste dinty more beef stew. I used to do it on tour, and Michelle Vissage would say, starting your day with a little dinty more there on, because it would be 9 a.m. and I'd be eating beef stew. The number of spaghetti cans in my pantry would freak y'all out.

SpaghettiOs. I get them, once in a blue moon, I need spaghetti. The chef Yardee, beef ravioli in a can. But that's not microwave. I make them on the stove. There's still, there's still, but there's, there's, there's, there's plastic in that. I'm sure. It's all processed in the same plant. Here I am sitting on my high horse. You can't avoid it.

It's crazy and it's my favorite food. There's some more, there's some plastic. I mean, listen, we can't escape. I'm sorry. I should have cleared it with you before. No, no, no, no, I feel like, you're used to. Because I'll tell you what was really good at our reactions. So, they'll cut to us.

No, they'll cut to us. Don't worry. I just, all. I also got very self-conscious that I might have not been tucked, but you know what I'm embracing the... We're not... We're not free to out. Thank you. Um, okay, Beau.

You can, don't bleep it. I want people to know that it's an anxiety I deal with. Are you ready to do your out and think so, honey? Hold on. Good. Yep. We have sure that we are clear. Totally.

Okay. Okay. Are you ready now? I hope so. This is jinx monsoons. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Where has everyone's manners gone? Where the fuck have all your manners gone? Where have all your manners gone? Because I am so serious, I feel like if I try to empathize and if I try to figure out why no one has any manners anymore, and I think it's the pandemic and we all had to like, you know, socially. isolate and you know you could it was like don't say hi to your

friends so we took that on but like manners like it's not going to kill you to leave the door open for two seconds you know it's not going to kill you to not be a cunt to people while you walk down the street you know what happened to like just common decency look up from your phone when you're having a

conversation with people you know and while I'm clearing the air it's like condoms what's that all about I paid for the research. I donated my money to that cancer research fund. It's a moot point anyway. I have diaphragms now. That's one minute. Whatever happened to good breeding and nice manners. Is it nice matters and good breeding? But the thing is, is I, I, hopefully both. You know, you know that I thought long and hard about everything we discussed today that I knew was on the docket, right? And you

wanted to really go to him. Thank you for speaking to this. So I really thought long and hard about that and I'm like, is this going to sound classist? Is this? It's not about class. It's literally common decency. It's don't slam the door behind you when you see me coming. I don't think it's

no small fault to our leaders showing no class or decorum that now people feel like that's that's out. There's social malaise and therefore everybody is like in their own little space.

And listen, in Times Square, I'm just trying to get through as quickly as possible, but I'm not being a cunt while I'm doing it. In fact, because I'm from the Pacific Northwest, I would rather go out into the street and walk around a crowded sidewalk. Maybe I do it. Now, Huff, if I'm late, I try not to be late because I, anyway. But I'm so passive aggressive that I'd rather walk around the issue than say, excuse me, because I'm so scared it's going to come out.

Excuse me. And in which case, you wouldn't be having the, but you'd be having good manners. Excuse me, could you get your five children wringled so that I can get to my rehearsal? Get your kids, wrangled. I don't want to say I'm a Broadway star, but that's what we're talking about.

They know. You're making me late to-vers. They can feel it as you swiftly pass by. So anyway, I have a personal investment in people like remembering, to just be decent to one another for many, many reasons. One, because I'm a person

and we're all just people and like, how the hell are you going to make life hell for everyone else? Like, that's who you want to be. You want to add to the problem. You see a problem and you want to add to it. You want to press the door closed button. I'm in a building where I have never seen so many people

get on an elevator and press the door close button frantically. Like in front of you, as you're about, as you get into their video. One time. That sucks. But mostly it's like, I'm in. I hold the door open for them to then watch them go. I'm like.

Yeah. It brings out something animal at the elevator. It's breaking my brain because I don't, I used to joke like, you know, people are like, how'd you get to be so polite or whatever? And I'm like, I just was raised right. And I, um. How'd you get to be so polite? That's such a dark thing to be so sweet.

How'd you get to be so sweet? I asked you very nicely. Won't you tell me very good? Matt TV. How'd you get to be so sweet? I could also do why Matt TV is a big part of culture that made me. When I had a podcast, it was my goal to have all. I had Nicole Sullivan.

Mo Collins, Stephanie Weir, fucking Deborah Wilson. No, no, I'm sorry. I'm saying, like, you need to do this. Oh, let me tell you, I've, oh, yeah, I would love to host a reunion the way Andy Cohen does with Housewives. And just talk about, as a drag him. You know, if there were any reason to do, like, a live hijinks, oh, my God, I think you just, I think you just, do I have to pay you now? No, we can talk about producer stuff on air. On air, we're going to say, no, absolutely not.

But then we're, like, really mean and sharp. with our lawyers. I want to cut of that tour you do with the mad TV women. Oh, no, no. Nothing happens here that we don't have a piece of. Are we getting this? Don't anyone, I want to produce it.

I'm going to produce it myself. We're all kind of produce. Unless you want to be an angel donor. Of course. Of course. Listen, Jinks is still in on there until the 20 damn eighth. We went at the time of our lives, but of course we did because we're fucking brilliant.

Oh, thank you. And we love you. as well. We love you dearly. Thank you. We end every episode with a song. Do you know what's in my head? Do you want to have fun, fun, fun,

how's about a few? Laughs, laughs, laughs, I can show you a fun laughs, good time. Fun laughs, good time, fun laughs, good time. And then there's a bunch of stuff about what happens when he walked in the joint. You can find that online. Bye! Bye!

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