Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The All-The-Things Program" (w/ Jennifer Lopez)

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:58 X-O-X-O-Santa boy. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, goodness.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. We sort of gave dark vibes today for Spider-Women. For Spider-Women. Um, I feel like, I should say, me Siento-Muy excited.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Me Siento-Moy... Excited. For our guests. Oh, come on the way back. This is a moment in last culture history because it's not every day we get a full-blown for real fucking icon in the seats. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:36 It's kind on one hand, honestly. I mean, truly. I mean, there was a moment in the new film Kissed of the Spider-Woman, which is great, and our guest is fantastic in it, and we want to talk all about it, where she sort of looks over her shoulder in a bold red lip and smiles, and I was like, I was back, like, watching Selena.
Starting point is 00:03:53 There's 97 all over again. I was just like, The countless times this person has brought joy continues to in all forms of media and entertainer in every sense of the word. This has been always a J-Lo-Stand podcast, and you guys know that. I think I Like You, Poppy was on the Great Global Songbook. I think it was on the great global songbook. We ranked the top 300 songs of all times. And I Love You Poppy.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That's right. That's right. We love, I Love You Poppy. Come on. Come on now. Please, everyone, it's time to welcome into your ears. Jennifer Lopez. Hello.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Hello. We lie you. Mommy. Why add such an introduction? Ever? Oh, maybe. Maybe. You know, are you like a frivolous time every now and that?
Starting point is 00:04:43 I love it. I love it. My whole life is a frivolous time. I feel like you get thrown into like, I'm sorry, these rigid interviews where the people like don't know what to ask you. It's true. And it's a little bit repetitive. competitive and everything.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So this will be fun, I think. I was looking forward to this. No, this is going to be fun because I have a question for you, which I don't think you get asked a lot. We have something in common. We were both high school track athletes. Oh, yes. Okay, I want to know your events. Not just high school.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I started a track when I was in, I want to say, fifth grade. That's early. Yeah. So you were running. Five or sixth year. Fifth or sixth grade. Yeah, seventh I started. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah. So what were your events? I was 800. Yeah. We did the same. Did you really? So I was a miler. Me too.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, come on, middle distance. What was your time? 436. Mine was 4.50, I think my best one ever was 449. So you were for real. I was for real. Yeah, well, of course you were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:44 No, I thought that there was times in my life where I thought I would take the athlete. Yeah. I loved tennis. I had like a great backhand that was compared to like, Believe it or not, John Magero right over the net. It would just like sink on the... I don't know how I did it. It just was a natural thing.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Sink on the other side of there. So it was my tennis moment. And then I had my track moment. Yeah. And I went, you know, I did it for years and did that. And I was into softball. So I was like a athlete. I was like a little tomboy jock person.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Name one thing you have an excelled out. I mean, I sucked at basketball. Okay. Like, for some reason, the finesse of it, I was more like a brute strength. 100%. Run stamina. person. I feel like you know what I mean? It's a different skill. Totally. Well, you've mentioned sports that are very passionate. You know what I mean? I feel like
Starting point is 00:06:32 track is a very passionate thing. Yeah, the glory. Yeah. Chariot's a fire. Let's go. I can hear it in the theme song. Yeah. We used to, there was a couple movies about Steve Prefontein. Like I think who was a distance runner, Billy Cruda played a movie. We'd watch it all the time. There's like, those movies are so. Yeah. Inspiring. Yes. And I feel like. It's the keep on going factor of it all. Yeah. You can't stop me. I will do it. But then when did you? I have that energy. I was going to ask, this feels like a broad question, but I feel like it is apropos.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's like that passion. Like, I feel like that's like a through line in your career. I feel like this movie, The Kiss of the Spider Woman, is such a passionate performance. You can feel it in all the lines that you dance and everything that you do. Thank you. And when I was reading about your athletic past, I was like, there's something about track running. And tennis, I was going to say as well. It is very passionate.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. But have you always been a passionate person even as a kid? I think so. I think so. I think that's just something that you're born with. It's not something you kind of develop. You have a deep well of feeling, right? And I feel like, even when I had my first therapist,
Starting point is 00:07:36 she was like, you feel very deeply. Wow. And I think it's an artist thing, too. You know, it's like where I'm not afraid of those emotions. I like the way they feel. Sure. It makes me, you know, feel alive, I guess, in a sense. And so I've always, yeah, been there.
Starting point is 00:07:53 But was there, like, a precipice of you, like, because you were saying you had to, like, make the choice? I mean, did that feel like a commitment where you were like, I guess I'm going to go down, like, this performer path? I just loved singing and dancing and acting. I just loved it more. Well, this is, I loved it more. You loved it more. Loved it more than what was happening with the sports for me, which was great. I mean, I had a wall full of trophies and medals, and my parents would put them up.
Starting point is 00:08:16 They were like the whole wall, you know, every weekend I was going to attract and winning and it was fun. Yeah. But it didn't, like, it wasn't my passion. It didn't fulfill me. I was good at it. I think it was, like, kind of a training ground for discipline. I always feel the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 At a certain point, like, I think people that don't have, like, you know, because you did have, like, a dramatic past, like, in terms of, like, high school, you did musicals and stuff. I did. I did. Yeah. So that must have been a schedule, by the way. Like, being a full athlete and doing the musicals? By the time I got to high school, I was full arts.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. I was transitioned out. By the time I was a freshman, and I was like, I'm just a theater girl. Yeah. That's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah. But the athletic pass does prepare you for that. 100%. It actually gives you a leg up on everybody because you're a hard worker. For the discipline of just like, I will work from now to then. It's not like, you know, how wishy-washy artists, sometimes you kind of like, you know, do a thing where you're like, I'm so tired. I can't do this right now. That was never in my vocabulary.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Right. That was never me. Like, I really need to sit down. No, no sitting down. Yeah. There's no sitting down. Run another lap. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:28 When you hosted SNL when I was there, I feel like that was the thing. Not that it surprised me, but I was like, okay, like, J-Lo's, like, in this. Yeah, no, she's just a worker. She's a worker. I mean, you and I were, like, sitting next to each other just, like, in between, like, sketches. I was like, oh, yeah, like, she's not going back to her dressing room. She's just like, she's a cure. On set.
Starting point is 00:09:44 On set, baby. Once I get on set, I'm on set. Yeah. I get ready. I may come out 15, 20 minutes later. You know, whatever, but I do. Yeah. But I do.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But you come and you don't have to stop a lot. We're going to make up the time. Exactly. Yeah. We're going to get out early. Yes. I love early. Because y'all don't have much time.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You don't love early. You don't love early. But when you get older, you're like, please get me home. Yeah. Yeah, let's go home. 100%. Give me my time back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Because you guys did not have that much time to shoot this, Spider-Women. No, no, that was the one thing. Everybody's like, what was the most challenging thing about this? What was the hardest thing? It was the time. We didn't have, like, you guys probably had a ton of time to do the wicked stuff. Like you worked on it for two years, two movies, right? Which is, it was so fast.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It was, what, six weeks? It was four weeks of shooting for me. And then they shot another four weeks, I think, the prison side of it. And I had, you know, I started learning my songs the minute that I got the role, right? I was just like, okay, I'm going to learn all these songs, I'm going to be ready. But we didn't really start rehearsing until a few weeks before. Diego was panicked and so was we were all panicked in our in a sense
Starting point is 00:10:54 and we just didn't have a lot of time they didn't have a lot of time to create it to do it to do it so we was just like crash course talk about being on the set all the time or being in rehearsal all the time it was just very challenging sometimes we would have to do like two musical numbers in a day right
Starting point is 00:11:09 one for six hours intricate and big set pieces and you wanted to shoot them in one take no I want to say this motherfucker but this love I wanted to shoot it like to say I don't know You could say that on podcast. We can say a motherfucker on podcast.
Starting point is 00:11:23 This might be one of my first podcasts, so you have to. It's a lot of my good nerd. No, but we were so excited you were coming. You have to know. Like, this is, and I said it brought me all the way back to Selena, and I feel like while you're here, we do have to talk about that. And it's specifically one thing. So this movie came out in 97, just to go all the way back.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So it would be a couple years before you, you know, had your debut pop album, which was on the six, which was one of the great. debut pop albums and like really changed pop music brought all that like Latin movement in you Ricky Enrique that was Yeah yeah And I was thinking about Selena
Starting point is 00:12:02 And there's a scene where you're in the stadium And it's like it's a full pack stadium And you turn around and you have a smile And you hold the screen in the whole space But yet you didn't have experience doing that At the time and I think now when we watch the movie We take for granted Oh of course there's J-Lo in a stadium
Starting point is 00:12:19 and we know the image of that. But at the time, that was not a thing that you had been accustomed to doing. No, the only thing I had was the footage of Selena and watching her do it. And luckily, I had great footage of her. And when I tell you, I studied this footage, I could tell you every step, every way her finger moved,
Starting point is 00:12:38 her eyebrows, her everything. I just was so focused on trying to get her right for everybody because she had passed away. And I was just, that scene, I know exactly what you, shot you're talking about. And I haven't seen the movie in years, but I remember it. It was the way she took in the audience of 70,000 people and selling out the Astrodome and just like a little girl who had dreamt of this and whose father's dream and there they were. And she was the first, I believe, Dejano artist to sell out the Houston Astrodome. 70,000 people. She was 23. You know, and it was,
Starting point is 00:13:12 it was a big, big deal. And she just stood there and kind of looked around. I had to kind of, put forth the feeling of everything that moment meant. Right. Right. For her, for her dad, for her family, for everything, right? So it was a big moment, but it was definitely the footage that I had that helped me get there. But how much of that was you studying the footage for accuracy and how much of that was like you, Jennifer, like letting your soulfulness, your humanity, like kind of like project
Starting point is 00:13:47 onto the screen, onto the camera. Like that has to be, there has to be some of you in that. You can't help but stand there as yourself, right? But as an actor, and I very much was in the actor mindset of doing that and not being myself, you can still get there. You can still have that happen. You can still feel those feelings and feel the matter, because that 35,000 people had showed up as extras for that scene for her.
Starting point is 00:14:16 They didn't know who the hell I was. So that's what that was. They were there because they knew it was a Selena movie. And they knew it was a Selena movie. It was that come down to the Selena movie. And they had, you know, they CGIed the rest of the seven. But 35,000 people just showed up for her movie after her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You know, for. True devotion. So I'm sitting standing there and I come in on the little horse in carriage and how she gave in. And I step up to the stage and the lights go off. And when the lights go off, they explode. I mean, I get goosey's right now thinking about it. It's an iconic scene. And they.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And I had never. felt that. No. But again, me, I would have fallen apart and be like, oh my God, right? If I was Jennifer. But in that moment, she's a seasoned performer who has, you know, performed on many, many stages. And I just, with all of the composure of the world, did exactly what she did in that moment, which was take the stage as a superstar that she had become. Wow. That's the discipline of you, like running track. Well, that's an actor. Yeah. Right, right. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.
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Starting point is 00:19:03 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's so shocking to me that Kiss of the Spider-Woman is your first musical theater project. Wild. Wild, because I feel like you've expressed that your influences have been like Streisand, or these like MGM, 20th Century, Fox Columbia, old school movie musicals. Rita Moreno. Yeah. Rita Moreno.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And like you're, you know, and like the bye-bye birdie thing would have been so amazing. Oh my God, yeah. But I feel like this is the perfect thing for you. And I, what was that wish fulfillment like for you to like do it in this way? in this heightened way that felt cinematic and technical or mold out. You know, it was amazing when I read the script that I was blown away. I was like, oh, my God, is this happening right now? I'm getting the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Okay, I'm going to sing, I'm going to dance. I want to play the three characters. I'm going to do it. You know, it was like a pinch me moment, for sure. It was just so exciting, so exciting. And you're right, I had, you know, dreamt of doing this for years, but I'm a big believer and I've had to be. And if you're going to have a long career,
Starting point is 00:20:11 you have to come to peace with what's yours is yours. And nobody can take it away. But also conversely, what's not for you is not for you. And you have to be understand, like, I really have seen it when I look at my career because people make me talk about it. Do you know what I mean? People make you talk about your career. It's not like something I'm sitting at home.
Starting point is 00:20:30 But when you talk about it, you go, wow, the things that came to me came to me when I was ready for them. and not a second sooner. And you have to be at peace with that part of it because it's so easy in this business to go, this person is doing this and this person is doing that and why don't I have this movie and why didn't I get a chance at that? And a long time ago, I just decided I'm on my own path here.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I'm on my own trajectory, my own journey. I have a whole different thing than anybody else has and so does each person. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with how my place. out because it has to do with how and what I need to grow and evolve as a person and as a human, not just as an artist. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And so that part of it, I've been able to kind of really embrace. Yes. I also feel like something about you that I really love is that you always are thinking about how you're going to entertain your audience. Oh, my God. It's all about them. Yeah. And because when we get so many different kinds of projects from you and,
Starting point is 00:21:38 different forms of media. And I'm just thinking about how it almost calls back to like, you have to make a choice between being an athlete and then being an artist. But it feels like with your career, you've said, you know what? I'm not really going to make that choice. Like, because there was that run of like critical success in terms of film. And then you pivoted to a pop career. Like, and you would think, because really people didn't do both, but you did both so well and sort of prove that you could. I mean, I believe first woman to have the number one box office movie and album at the same time. Like, these are big trailblazing moments that I guess you can't have if you're not
Starting point is 00:22:17 thinking, like, I know this is going to be a way that entertains people and I'm going to be great at it. You have to, that's the thing. It's like there's so much noise and now it's even worse with social media. There's so much noise of what people will tell you you can and can't do or what you should do or what you do well or what you don't do well or they need to do this or they need to go away. Like, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But the truth is only really you know what feels right to you. And when I was acting, and like you said, having like this critical acclaim in the beginning of my career with these movies and working with directors like Francis Ford Coval and Oliver Stone and all these people and then I decided I wanted to do a pop. I wanted to do the Madonna Janet Jackson thing, which is what also some of my idols growing up, people were like, are you fucking crazy?
Starting point is 00:23:02 And I'm like, no, I just did the movie Selena and this is what I want to do. Yeah, so it was that, it was then? Was that like the moment? It was after Selena. It was right after Selena. And it didn't happen right away, but that's where I started kind of heading. And it wasn't until Tommy Motola came across a demo of mine that I did right after Selena, that he was like, oh, let's get you in here. This girl actually can do this. And that's when it all happened.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah. But the point is, it's like, you can, only you know. Only you know. I knew that I could do it. I wanted to do it. Yeah. And so I did it, you know, and that was that. And I didn't understand no.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And that's the beauty of being like young and ignorant a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that you're like, don't know all the things that could go wrong. Right. And so you kind of just go forth to conquer. And I knew I didn't know how I would reconcile the movie career and the music career, but I knew I could do both. So why not do both?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Right. Well, it almost feels like because they're with the pop career, like you already were a household name, created Google Images and all. But like, then the pop career sort of brings you this mainstream, like, sort of, you know, conversation that you're in with the audience. And I feel like that leads to you being in some of the defining romantic comedies of that time. Right. And for me, I was, I was going to ask about, like, the way you have such great chemistry with so many different kinds of leading men. Like, I don't think you get much more different than McConaughey and Ray Fines.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I know. But yet, you, as like, you are like the thing that, I don't know, it's just, I can fall in love with anybody. But people want to,
Starting point is 00:24:45 do you think that's true? That's the bad, um, quote from here. No, we're not taking out of context. But no, my point is,
Starting point is 00:24:52 I feel like, I don't know if it's because I'm a romantic and I so believe in love. Even Kids of the Spider Woman for me is only about love. is I'm able to kind of have that chemistry with people and with all different kinds of people I'm able to kind of see through this
Starting point is 00:25:15 and get to kind of like who the person is on the inside and really fall in love with that person for that moment between, like they say, between, you know, action and cut. Yeah. Right? There's like a new kind of chemistry in this movie, though, where, which I'm curious about what you think about this. There's a chemistry between you as the leading woman
Starting point is 00:25:37 and the lead role and like a queer person who projects themselves onto you. And I feel like... Love. Like this is my favorite thing. Go ahead. Like Molina toned to you, like projecting themselves onto you. I was watching.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I was like, I've been doing this with J-Lo my whole fucking life. Yeah. I've been like, I want to be like where she, you know, literally. Like, I would, like, I wonder if you feel like that is a new thing you haven't explored in this film. Like, that dynamic between, like, a gay man and a woman who is just shiny and bright. The dival worship. Yeah. You know, I, of the three characters I play in Kiss of the Spider Woman,
Starting point is 00:26:16 and I play Ingrid Luna, who is that character, right? She is the actress that he idolizes. And she does a movie called Kiss of the Spider Woman that he shares with Valentin, his prison cellmate. And in that movie, he's saying, Ingrid Luna plays these two parts. She plays Kiss of the Spider Woman and she plays Aurora.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And he identifies very much with Aurora, but he identifies with all of them. And she is the powerhouse performer, Ingrid Luna, right? Who, you know, like you said, he looks up to and he wants to be like and she's the perfect woman. And in this movie in particular,
Starting point is 00:26:50 she's like this siren and she's amazing and all of that. And it's funny because I identified most, not with the Spider-Wan, the Aurora, even though there were parts of me that I feel were very much like each of those characters, they're very different.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But Ingrid Luna was the one that was most like me, right? Because she's the entertainer. She's the vessel for all these different things. And one of my favorite moments in the movie was doing where you are. Oh my God, it's a show-stopping. So that's where I say to him,
Starting point is 00:27:24 like, come with me. Let's escape together. Let's escape into this song. Let's escape into this movie. Let's escape into this world. Forget you're in a prison. Don't be where you are. Be with me.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Let's go have fun. And I can't tell you how many times in my own life I have had someone come up to me and say, this song got me through this or this, you know, movie made me dream and want to do what I'm doing today. And today I'm a set decorator or whatever it is. Like so many different stories, this one helped me get through my mom. died when I was 12 and you became like my pseudo mom out there, you know. And the more I kind of keep going, they keep going. And when they see me fall down and they see me get back up, but what they don't realize and what I love about the movie and I love about that number where you are
Starting point is 00:28:11 is that he saves her too. In that, she goes, you know, she touches his face at the end. It was very important to me. I was like, can he put his head on my shoulder, please, Bill? And can I just touch his face there? I know that there's a separation of like the movie and it's not real and all of that in the movie, but the movie within the movie, I said, but I really feel like I want to touch when I say my sweetest fan, I said, because he does the same thing for her
Starting point is 00:28:35 that she does for him, right? He immortalizes her. And because, I can't tell you that in the hardest times of my personal life, how my own, you know, fans and followers get me through. They get you through. They really do because you go, I can't let them down.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I can't fall right now. I can't. I can get through this. And I can show them that I can get through this. And it is going to be okay. Not only it's going to be okay. And I do this with my kids as well.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It's like, I'm going to get through, and I said this to my kids. We're going to get through this. We're going to be better. Better. I'm going to be stronger. And you're going to see that. And you're going to see that you can do it in your own life too.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But that relationship is such an important relationship and a real relationship in my life. Even though we don't know each other personally. It's a real relationship. I was going to ask, because I feel like you've withstood so many different forms of weird celebrity culture, right? Like tabloid shit. Then the paparazzi peak of like the aughts. Now it's like Stan culture and just the internet being its own beast and social media.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I was going to ask you like how you maintain that humanity throughout those different eras of celebrity culture. But I feel like you've answered it. Like it's the fans that get you through. Yeah. And it's all the same. Right. Whether it was the tabloids or whether it's social media or whatever it is or the normal media, any of it. And people can be harsh and cruel. It was the same thing when I first started and you get your first bad review or you get your first thing. You learn that it does not define you. Right. That you know who you are. And the more I could put my feet on the ground and go, who am I? Who am I? Do I know who I am? And it sets you on a search. to really be in touch with yourself all the time because it's so easy to listen to,
Starting point is 00:30:30 and this is anybody. You don't have to be a celebrity for people to kind of say things about you and you go, you know, and they destroy you. They destroy a side of you. You know, they hurt your ego. They hurt your mind. They live inside, rent free in your head,
Starting point is 00:30:43 all of those things, right? But the truth is, is if you really know who you are and you stick to that and you stay close to that, I have a really, try to have a really strong relationship with God and myself first.
Starting point is 00:30:54 before I can have it with anybody else. And this I've learned over years. This is not something I had figured out, you know, when I was younger. But when I was younger and I first started into the business, I used to say to myself, when I put my head down on the pillow at night, am I proud of who I am. Right. Am I proud of what I did today? Did I treat people well?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Did I do my best? Was I kind? You know, and those things are the things that matter to me. And I can put my head down on the pillow and say those things. So it doesn't matter what other people think or think they know or think. they're here or it doesn't it doesn't really affect me yeah in that way because on the flip side of this i think it's my favorite thing about your work is this thing that you do where it feels like there's this cultural amnesia around like what jalo can do and it's like every like every few
Starting point is 00:31:43 years it's like oh yeah i forgot that she was an amazing dancer i forgot that she or i forgot that she was so funny oh i forgot that she oh my god she looks good in all these clothes oh my god i forgot that she's a good singer it's like there's all these different It's like you're re-oditioning for like the audience all the time. It's because like they get lost in the sauce of like what people, what the chatter is. But meanwhile, you know that you can do all these things and you're just reminding people all the time. Yeah, but it's not even that part of reminding them. It's I keep doing what I love to do no matter what.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah. I'm in the pursuit of kind of finding projects and things that excite me. and just doing that. And what I'm learning to do more of now is wait and not do all the things that excite me. Gotcha. What does that look like waiting? It's a little, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah. But last year when I had to cancel my tour and I took a whole year off, I finished Spider-Woman last March, and I didn't start another movie until this following March. I did office romance. And during that year,
Starting point is 00:32:49 I literally just sat in like a rocking chair. Yeah, you know, I was with my kids. Yeah, but I was with my kids. I really wanted them to feel me and I didn't want to be away from them. And we reconnected in a way because I've always been a working single mom for most of their life. And so it was, it was so nice for them to have me there every single day for a year, which was so different for them. And for me, but also for me, while they're at school and while they're at school and while they're, they're doing whatever they're doing or their way at camp or doing their things with their friends. It's just me by myself. And I got to really kind of feel good about it's not ever going away. It's there.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It's there. You've done it. You proved it. You did it. And it made me feel like, you have nothing to prove. You should just be doing shit you love when you want to do it. And you don't have to do all the things. But I was on. the All the Things program for a long time.
Starting point is 00:33:55 The All the Things program. The All the Things program. Yes, I do. It's like, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. Because I loved it. And it was just you're filling a hole.
Starting point is 00:34:04 You realize that you're filling a hole in that way. It's not even that. It's just that you were, again, like raising these kids. And now they're what, like, in their teens. They're about to go into college next year. Wow. They're graduating this year. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That's wild. The twins. It's crazy. You're letting that go slow. Like, that part of your life is fading out. Like, well, it's not fading out. Just motherhood is changing. It's a different. It's a different.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And so then all these other things start to fall away too. Yeah. You know, maybe that's it. It's not filling a void necessarily. I mean, back in the day, I feel like it a little bit was. And now, and what I'm saying is, like, I've learned that I can, there can be times when I'm doing nothing and it's okay. Yeah. It's important.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's actually, it's going to make me better. Yeah. It's actually, when I do take on something that really excites me. Does this really, now I do the thing where it's like I drive everybody crazy. Does this really exciting? I mean, it's going to take time away from the house and do I want to do that?
Starting point is 00:35:01 No, I'm going to pass on that. I'm going to stay home. I want to pick out pillows online. Totally. No, you know what I mean? It's crazy. The online shopping is a problem. The thing about retail therapy?
Starting point is 00:35:13 It works. It's so crazy. No, but it's just like sitting, I'll be here sitting in the rocking chair. Yeah. Thinking about life. dreaming about things, dreaming about the next thing and what it'll be like and, you know, that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Well, that's also a big part of the creative process too. Absolutely. Is the silence. I believe it was Michaela Cole, who, like, and when she won her Emmy, she gave the most beautiful speech. She was like, don't be afraid of the silence. Go to the silence.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Because the silence is what's going to tell you what the next thing is. And that thing that you hear in the silence might be scary, but don't be afraid. Yeah, yeah. To do the scary thing. What room was the rocking change? And it's outside on my back porch, faces the tree in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah. And it was, it's by a little fireplace. And I just sit there and look at the sky. What kind of rocking chair? Is it vintage? It's, it's, no, it's like an outdoor ride. It's vintagey looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I sit there with, it's very funny. It's a little bit granny. I sit there with a blanket on my lab. I put my feet up. I put like my iPad over here in case I need to online. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I just sit there and people call or they don't call. A lot of times I'll listen to a book or I'll read a book or, you know, and then I'll think about that and I'll take notes on the book. And, yeah, it's just elevating my consciousness. You have to. That sounds so peaceful and great. It's a fantastic thing. Get a little tea.
Starting point is 00:36:41 There's a little tea moment. I like a pretty tea cup. Yeah. You know, just normal stuff. Also, like, even just the opportunity to be by yourself, period, is great. is great because like when you or you, I would imagine it's a lot of people. It's a lot of being handled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It's a lot of all the time. Yeah. And then, you know, to say nothing of like everyone out there in the world wanting to weigh in. It's just like a lot of physical people touching and moving and handling and stuff like that. 100% I was just in the back. I stopped to just go to the bathroom here on the way in here. Somebody comes in while I'm being. They're ready for you.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I'm like, can I be? Hey, hey. Are you serious right now? I'll be right there. We sent them. in there. Get J-Lo out of here. Like, I'm going.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I'll be there in two seconds. No, but it's, I sometimes think about that. Like, we obviously do shows and tour in a totally different way, but it is kind of interesting when like, it's excitement and then the silence. Oh, yeah. Like, just that lifestyle. You know, I love, I love that. I love the, you know, I was on tour.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I loved being on tour this summer and it was like, stadium. And then it was like, nothing. Yeah. It was like, yay. It's like a back. Yeah, it's yummy. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.
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Starting point is 00:41:39 Listen to Model Wars on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think it's time to ask Jennifer Lopez the question. Yes. Okay, so Jennifer Lopez, I feel like we're getting a little hints as we talk. Yeah. But this is the central question of our podcast, which is, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Like, defining art or other things in your life that... I would have to say it was my mom showing me West Side Story and then Barbara Streisand. and funny girl. You're in the right place. Two moments for me just I could never live up to what that is. I will always be chasing
Starting point is 00:42:28 that in a way because as a little girl I was just like this is what I want to do with my life. This is the culture. Whatever this culture is, whatever this world is, that's what I want to be doing. And I feel like I'm just arriving there now with Kiss the Spider-Women.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And I feel like my world now is going to it's like returning to yourself again, right? Like back to the little girl, the dreams and having that opportunity to do that and now like incorporating that to everything. Like now I'm doing, setting up my Vegas residency,
Starting point is 00:43:05 you know, for New Year's Eve and all of that. Coliseum, right? Caesars. Caesars at the Coliseum where Adele just was. And I'm, you know, thinking of like doing a totally different type of show than I've ever done. It's going to be, and it's still, you know, as entertaining as ever, but even more so in a different way, incorporating these things that were always my influences since I was a little girl. So it's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's one of the reasons why I'm so excited that you landed in this chair for this movie because I knew it would connect to this question. And I feel like when you say Barbara Streis-in, Funny Girl, like, he shared that when you got, when you came to host SNL, you had a Barbara bag. The coach bag. Yes. It was the first. I texted him right after. Like, oh my God, Jaila. I commented on Jaila's Dry Sandbag, and she goes,
Starting point is 00:43:52 Funny Girl. My mom would play that movie on a loop when I was a little kid. I mean, there was no other movies for me except West Side Story of Funny Girl. That's it. It made me want to do what I did with my life and still inspires me to reach for that level of what they did in those movies.
Starting point is 00:44:09 You should put a boy like that on the set list for the call scene. I'm kidding. You would tear it up. You know, it's funny. I'll invite you both. to the show so you can see it. And you'll see what I'm doing. It's very
Starting point is 00:44:21 different to do. I'm going to do all my hits, all my songs, but it's going to be you'll see. I'm excited. Well, what were you identifying with in West Side Story? Were you like, I'm Natalie Wood or I'm I'm Rita Morena. I am. I wanted to be like the gang leader's girlfriend. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:44:41 In the beautiful purple jazz who was dancing in the middle of the gym and stealing the show and yeah. But I just loved her I loved her so much And Rita Moreno was so good And a boy like that I mean it's just
Starting point is 00:44:54 And America The whole thing America is one of the best It's still one of the best musical Is the ones ever made Yeah Ever ever ever ever Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:01 And they did an amazing job With the reboot as well I agree Like I thought And that number in particular too I was like so like grand And it really blew me away Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:11 From funny girl It would be my man I sing I sing it I've sung it many times I love it There's so many songs. It's a great show in and of itself.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I think my man, I remember. Just that last moment and knowing the story, it's just all black and she stands there. Forever. Yeah. The more of that.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I love that one. I sang that for my kids' dad's birthday when he turned 40. I threw him a big birthday party. I had ran a triathlon that day. Casual. doing it all the things program You get up All the things program
Starting point is 00:45:52 Miss Tyne Leavette All the things program Because the kids were six months old He was turning 40 in September And I decided when the kids When I was still burning I was like I'm going to do a triathlon When the kids after I give birth
Starting point is 00:46:06 To get back into shape Yeah just a casual triathlon Right but I was like I'm giving myself a goal There was a show on TV And this kid was like I'm going to do a triathlon I was like I can do it triathlon I'm like there like
Starting point is 00:46:16 A beached whale, like twins, 50 pounds on my belly. And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, I'm going to do a triathlon. And I started looking to see when a triathlon was. And there was one in Malibu on September, whatever. And then it just so happened that Mark was turning 40 years old. And I was like, well, his birthdays on the same day. We'll do the party and it will throw him off because I'll do the triathlon that morning. That will be the focus.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And then we're going to just go back home and whatever. And oh, so and so. having a dinner and we have to go to it, but we'll get changed on the plane and whatever. And we walk in and he's surprised. He's like, what the hell is happening? Huge surprise. And then I disappear and he's like, where did Jennifer disappear to? And then I come out and I sing my man. Just a casual day. That's a fourth sport. I didn't have it. Yeah, truly. I realize now, as I say it out loud, how crazy it is. Because I haven't talked about that in 20 years. Wow. I don't know. The running, swimming, biking, and
Starting point is 00:47:16 and belting my man. I'm belting Barbara. Belting Barbara. Wow. Yeah. I killed for that. Yeah, that was a fun. That was a fun day. Yeah. So were you, and then we left to Europe that night. Oh, come on. For our vacation with the babies. There you go. Would you please with your time in the triathlon? Or do you, I guess you didn't have much to compare it to. You were good? I have stories about the triathlon that are crazy. What happened during it? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Well, the swim is the crazy thing. It's crazy. Right. You know, you go and you're looking at the ocean for the first time and you're like, I'm swimming to the buoy
Starting point is 00:47:48 not the first one, the third one? Yeah. Okay. I'm sure there's sharks out there. No, 100%. I'm almost positive that there's big fish in there. Yeah, which is not going through your mind when you're like, I'm going to do a triathlon. When you're in the pool, you know, at the high school,
Starting point is 00:48:04 though you're swimming 70 laps and feeling like you're a Wonder Woman. No. No. It was crazy, but I did it. And you're supposed to have your bike set up. You know, your bike set up. So when you come out of the water with your wetsuit, you peel off the wetsuit, you go over and, you know, you get on your bike, you put on your sneakers, and then you bike for 18 miles or whatever it is. And then you run four miles after that.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So you have to have your running sneakers on, on the, whatever. So. Yeah. Have you ever run a marathon? No. I mean, like, is this? No, that feels like it would be too hard. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:37 It's crazy town. It's crazy town. And it feels like now there's this. For me. Well, sure. It's like for anybody. And like, now, I don't know. Like, Harry Stiles running the Berlin.
Starting point is 00:48:46 now is just, like, making me go, like, okay, like, is this a thing that... I should do? No, not that you should do, but, like, is this a thing that, like, is, like, a new PR thing for certain people to do, like, in terms of... I think it's what we were just talking about. I think this is his version of, like, I'm taking the time to find... I'm going to run a marathon. It's a rocking chair.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You're doing it. Yeah. Sometimes you're just, like, don't you get, like... Especially when people put a lot of things on you. Of course. You just kind of, like, want to go, what's for me? Yeah. What am I doing for me?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Right. You know, and I think the triathlon for me, I remember going down when I was pregnant into a room. And I looked and I saw that, you know, I had like two, these, my awards were in there. And there was American Music Award and I had just won for Best Popland album the year before the kids were born. And I was like, well, oh, good. Because I wanted them to be proud of me of their mom. And I'm like pregnant there and I'm looking and I go, okay, well, that was just this year. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It wasn't like I won it 10 years ago or something like that. And I think the triathlon was part of that. It was, I want them to be proud of me. Now, they've never, I've told them the story. They could care like, you know what I mean? Okay, he ran a triathlon. But, you know, one day maybe they'll think of it and go, wow, my mom ran the triathlon. Six months after she had me.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Yeah, they're probably getting to the age now. You sort of treat your mom with edge because you don't want to feel like you need anyone. No, no, no, no. They think you're the dumbest person in the world. Right, exactly. That was my wife saying it. Well, they have to individuate. They have to go, they're so dependent on you those first 10, 12 years that once they get
Starting point is 00:50:23 into the preteen, 11, 12, they start going, I can do this without you. So they have to make you the dumbest person in the room. I have to go, I'm smarter than you. Right, right, right. And they really do think they're smarter than you, you know, and that you don't get it and that you don't understand anything for a little while. And then they get to a point, which is, I think, where I'm now with my kids. where they start appreciating you again.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. Because you're still there through all of the things that they threw at you, you know, in all the ways that they were kind of like, eh. And they still have a little bit of that. Yeah. But they really are proud of you and they love you and appreciate you. And it's a beautiful thing. But it's stages, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:04 Just like life, there's stages. Do they watch, like, I guess it's like if you had to put something in front of them that you're like, I want to watch. I want you to watch this thing that I did. What is that thing? Nothing. No? No. Did you get nervous about it?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're the ones. But they're excited. They came in for the premiere of this. Oh, they live in L.A. And I'm doing a movie here.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And so they flew in to go to the premiere tomorrow night. Amazing. And it's funny. They saw the CBS this morning that I did. And I talked about the kids on that. And Max said, they told me my dad who was taking care of them was like Max said I'm actually looking forward to this one
Starting point is 00:51:49 Do you think it's because he knows this is a skill set that you like really what do you think it is that made him say that? I think I think it's the singing the dancing and the acting I think they've seen movies of mine I think they've seen me on tour since they were babies you know
Starting point is 00:52:05 but they they haven't seen anything quite like this and I think both my kids are very very bright. They were both very intelligent and kind of aware as this generation is of the world and all the things going on. And I think
Starting point is 00:52:23 they realize that this is an important movie for representation and inclusion and what it stands for. And I think they get proud of things like that. They're like, oh, I like that. I like that mom is doing that. It matters to them. I know how much it mattered to
Starting point is 00:52:39 see Rita Moreno in a movie playing the gangster's girlfriend, it made me have the life I have today. It made me realize that I could be a singer-dancer actress, right? Like, I could do that because she was Puerto Rican. That mattered to me to see that. And it matters to them to see these things, you know? I think the movie is about that.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I think Spider-Woman is about fantasy being escape, fantasy being, especially in times of political turmoil. It helps you get through. It helps you get through. Fantasy of survival in a time when, when it's a movie about just queerness and... It's about two men who couldn't be more different than each other. One is like this cisgendered revolutionary political guy
Starting point is 00:53:26 who's at the front of the lines fighting. And the other one's a trans window dresser who's effeminate and who is like, you know, couldn't be on... They couldn't be on further end of the spectrum. Right? And how being in this situation, they get to really experience each other's humanity and they fall in love.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And it becomes something beautiful. You love somebody you never thought you could love. Somebody you don't understand their political views. You don't understand their gender. You don't understand their preferences. You don't understand anything about where they grew up or anything like that. And it shows us, it reminds us what Manuel Puig wrote in that novel
Starting point is 00:54:10 back in the day, it reminds us that love and humanity and the soul of a person is much more important than the shell or their circumstances or where they grew up or what they are, right? Like, who they are inside is really the thing that matters. And that love can transcend all of that if we just allow ourselves to be loving. Yeah. And I think that is the important message of the movie. It's the perfect project for you because you get to fulfill all these things that have always defined through your as an artist.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's a very relevant film. Right now, especially. Of course, absolutely. For the reasons you said and beyond. And beyond. And you get to sing Kander and Ebb songs. Yes. It's like Terrence McNally.
Starting point is 00:54:49 It's like these are the highest levels of theater and musical theater. It's like it's the perfect intersection. The thing that I said earlier was it's like what was, it came to me when I was ready for it. And honestly, you mentioned John Cander and Fred Ebb, who people know did Chicago and all of these great musicals and the cabaret and all of this. and Kiss of the Spider-Woman. And to be able to sing all of those songs, because I have 10 musical numbers in the movie. Two in a day.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It's 10 musical numbers in the movie. But I also had a brand new song of theirs called Never You, which they had never put in the musical. And we wanted it, they wanted a, he had saved this song, I guess. And he was like, let's use this in there for Armando and for Aurora. And when I heard it, I was just blown away. I said, I go, okay, so who's the template? Like, how do I sing it? They go, no, no, you sing it like you.
Starting point is 00:55:48 You sing it how you would sing it. You're Aurora. Wow. You're Ingrid Luna. That's why you're so perfect in it. And that's when it kind of hit me. And I was like, oh, fuck. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Yeah. All right. I can't listen to Cheetah's version. I can't listen to anything. Or all the people who sang it on Broadway. I just have to, it's me. And I get to do that. And that was such.
Starting point is 00:56:10 a blessing and such a privilege. And I'm so happy and feel so blessed to have been able to do it. And it's a gift. It was a real gift. It's done so well. And also, like, you don't get a better director than don't come down. I mean, you must have been a Dreamgirls fan too. Of course.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Yeah, come on now. Beauty and the Beast. All of it. All of it. Yeah. Even Gods and Monsters. Have ever seen that? I don't think I've seen God of Monsters.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Oh, that's Ian McKellen and Brendan Fraser. Wow. Yeah. Really good. And Chicago, and screenplay. Well, obviously, I am. Yeah. Well, Chicago was Ralph Marshall.
Starting point is 00:56:46 But Bill Cotton wrote it. Oh, he wrote the movie. Oh, wow. You forget that. Or I forgot it in that moment. And he wrote this and directed it. And directed. Yeah, it's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I do want to say, just in terms of, like, speaking to the, like, you know, the bravery of this movie and how prescient it is. There's so many indelible images of you throughout your career. You know what I mean? Like, I mentioned you just as Selena smiling in front of that stadium, et cetera. I could list on and on. But I do. want you to know that at the Super Bowl, when you put up that Puerto Rican flag, like, you just like, you just like, you lifted so many people's spirits, like, including my own.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I'm obviously not from Puerto Rico, but just like to see your pride, especially in that moment. And as, you know, conversations happen about, you know, Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl coming up, I just like really want you to know that that will always stay with me in so many people. people that were watching it, and especially you being up there with your daughter, that you and Shakira together. I did watch a documentary. I know there was some strife about like, we're going to share it. Like, I deserve my own, which you do. And so did she. But I will say that like, boom, hit, hit, turn. It made me so happy. And I can't imagine it different. But I know. That's a role with one of the great Super Bowl halftimes. I think it's that thing of like what's for you and how it's
Starting point is 00:58:10 for you is how it happens when you're ready for it. Like, I don't think I was ready 10 years before that to do the Super Bowl. And when it came around, it was meant for her and I to do together. And I see that now. And there's moments where you, like, you get like, because we were, she's trying to fit her whole dysography and I'm trying to fit mine into like not 15 minutes now, seven minutes. And so it was frustrating. It really was.
Starting point is 00:58:33 But at the end of the day, it really was meant to be in the way that it happened in such a beautiful way. And you're right, that that, that for me, being able to make those kind of very palatable political statements in a way, like where people could receive it, no matter who you were, whether you were Latino or not, or if you were a woman or not, it did, it was so important for me. Yeah. And it was important for me because my kid was there singing with me and all those little girls that were on stage with me that day and representing all the kids. kids in cages and all of the things and the woman on top of the world, on top of the Empire Steel Building or, you know, celebrating the sexuality of being on a stripper pole. But then like, look, Ma, no hands in the middle.
Starting point is 00:59:24 All of it was very intentional. Yeah. And one of the best things in my life. But as I said, and people may have seen this where I was, I literally just started crying. It just caught me by surprise thinking about my child. kind of yelling back at me, I'm going to live my life. 100%. I was just like, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 00:59:46 But it was just, it was everything. It was everything in a moment of life. All of my worlds collided in that moment. You know what I mean? From growing up and being, you know, a little Puerto Rican girl in the Bronx to, you know, my work as an artist and my singing and my dancing and being Latin and having a child and being a mother and all of it.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Just the pride of all of those things that you can have in one moment and all of it coming together was just, it's kind of like a lightning bolt. Yeah. You'll always have that. And we'll always have it on YouTube. Because you know the gays like,
Starting point is 01:00:30 we're playing with it at music video night. You know about that, right? Like the gay pregames that happen, you know, they go through the Super Bowl. You don't know about gay guys. video night is big. What is this? So it's just when gay guys
Starting point is 01:00:41 get together at a pregame before you go out and you put music videos on or a post game. And you know, you come back and watch all your videos. Yes, 100%
Starting point is 01:00:49 I'm telling you. It's a modern ritual. Why am I never invited? You're invited to the next game. You're invited to the next game. We'll come after Caesars. Yes. We'll do it in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You're in Vegas. That'll be real trouble. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's very fun. It's very fun. You'll love it. I'm Jonathan Goldstein.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And on the new season of heavyweight. I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a hundred and one year old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an
Starting point is 01:01:22 armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke and he got down and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay this is power. Plus my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve
Starting point is 01:01:38 My problems. Through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look to people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to heavyweight on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that fuck my man. You put so much heart and soul into your work? What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism?
Starting point is 01:02:34 This shit was not given to me. I worked my absolute. Asked off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it? I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be close. Bloomingberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusion. and angry patients.
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Starting point is 01:04:00 Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Book, book, book. Like deals. Let's get models in. Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed. Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover
Starting point is 01:04:34 and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so we've come to, I don't think so, honey, which is our segment in this podcast where we take 60 seconds. minute, look it up, to rant against something in Coulch. I have something that is specific to our guess. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many's time starts now. I don't think so, honey, that you can wear the color green. If you're not this woman, you can't wear green at the Super Bowl when they had that neon green lights from the Waiting for Tonight video. And she said,
Starting point is 01:05:29 never forget hustlers on the pole. I said, I stood up and I said she owns that color. Because it's not just, I bet you thought J-Lo Green, you thought about Versace green dress. No, baby. I did. The waiting for tonight music video. The color of the six. The color of the six. Hello, it's all coming around.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Hello. I saw her show up to the premiere of Wicked. I said, that's because Al-Faba's green. And Al-Baba, I have news for you. You get green during this press tour. That's it. And green returns to our guest. I'm telling you, I have to imagine that our guests can rock every single color,
Starting point is 01:06:04 but there's nothing like the green. Something pops up. Everyone elevates. I feel better about my life. My shoulders drop when I see that neon green waiting for tonight. My second. Let's go. Google image, Jennifer Lopez, green.
Starting point is 01:06:17 You're going to get a ton of good shit. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. I can't do that. Can I say? That's a mic drop. That's it. You did it.
Starting point is 01:06:28 By the way, I've always said green is my lucky color. It is. I don't say it's my favorite color. It's my lucky color. For whatever reason, I'm always in green. when everything goes right. Can I tell you something? I can't believe it's not your favorite color
Starting point is 01:06:40 for that reason. I do love it. I do love it as a favorite color. But I've always said, I've never said it's my favorite color. It's my lucky color. What's your favorite right now in this moment today? My favorite color?
Starting point is 01:06:50 Today. Today? I would say, I would say green. Especially after that. You can come through, not with green after that. I was like, do I have another color there? No. Green is it?
Starting point is 01:07:04 It's it. Yeah. Are your eyes green? They have a little bit of green and gold. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Beautiful. I mean, I just like, I'll just, the waiting, first of all, waiting for tonight.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Do you have a favorite J-Lo song? Oh. Because mine is waiting for tonight. Is it? Thank you. And Get Right. Of course. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I don't know. Okay. I mean, there's, it's hard to say. I love perform, Get Right. That's one of my favorite songs to perform. Yes. But also just the end of it, it gets like so like. Does it when the beat?
Starting point is 01:07:35 drops out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. And we do the dance break. Yes. I start singing and scream. The mark of like this, because the second you hear waiting for tonight, like the brun, and you're just like, you know where you're at. Let me ask you a question. Because since you brought up waiting for night, I many times will put in the show the remix of waiting for tonight. Do you miss the original? I think the original is a classic. Okay, okay, okay. That's all I need to hear. It's not about missing it because the remix is sick.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Like anything you can do. But I always perform it because I feel like it's more exciting. Like the lasers. The lasers came from that. I love the lasers. You know what I mean? But we can have the lasers with the original. I mean, I feel like, but the original is just, it's a classic.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yes. But this is your dilemma. Like the original is a classic, but that's if you want to like really bring it, bring it like down and ground and you want people to like really lean in and listen to you saying. If you're playing the remix, we're all jumping and singing along. Right, right, right, right. It depends on what you want. What's happening, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:38 What section of the show it's in? There you go. Yeah. I don't think that's helpful. Like, we're not really giving you like a decision. No, no, no, no. I wanted to know because Benny and I, my longtime manager, Godfather to my kids and one of my best friends and my brother. Icon.
Starting point is 01:08:52 He, we always argue about that. We argue because he always wants me to do the original. And I never do the original. I always do the remix live because I just feel like it's more exciting. Sure. And he's like, what about a match show? What about you start? I know. You probably had every conversation.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I know, but I'm thinking, I don't know, in this new era of mine where I'm making the new show and creating something really new, maybe I'll go back to that. Is there a way to make it very dramatic and musical theater in the beginning and then it kicks in? Yeah, there's all kinds of things. I've done a lot of different things waiting for tonight. When I opened the American Music Awards, I sang waiting for tonight, I did it kind of like a legato, very slow, very this. And then we went into that big medley. There's a different, there's a lot of different ways to do it. Yeah. I also want to say in terms of favorite songs before Bowen Does Is I don't think so, honey. I would sing No Mamis, knowing no Spanish. And I would just pretend. I thought, no ma'amis. And I would just kind of give what I thought the words were.
Starting point is 01:09:50 But my mom was just like, I can't have you sing in gibberish anymore because you know it was on all the time in the house. I love that album. It's like the K-pop thing. It's like, I was making the words up. It's like you don't know necessarily what's being communicated, but it transcends. the language. Oh, no, it's such a beautiful song. I love that song. Thank you. Um, yeah. I'm just talking about, you know, these songs in general that are in English, you know what I mean? It's like, it's fine. No, I knew exactly what was being said. It's like the bad bunny thing. You don't need to understand Spanish to, like, be rocking with Bad Bunny all the time. And he's wonderful to look at. But first of all, he's just a cultural phenomenon. Yeah. Right? Like, he's one of those artists,
Starting point is 01:10:26 like you say, that transcends everything, that transcends color, race. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter If you like good music Then you like bad money You will enjoy the Super Bowl Yes Yes Yes
Starting point is 01:10:41 I mean Dibati Ramos Photos is One of the great albums Of amazing Yeah The last like decade I would say Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:46 I love that album Okay I have some of the trend More general This will bring it down No no no No there's different ways to do it Okay I'm gonna do a different way
Starting point is 01:10:54 Okay do it a different way This is not pop culture This is just life This is Bowen Yang's This is life This is based on life Like much This is Bowen Yang
Starting point is 01:11:03 I don't think so, honey, his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, the humiliating task of making sure shampoo and conditioner bottles finish at the same time that you keep them evenly full because you got me acting like Dexter's laboratory in the steam, acting like a damn mad scientist
Starting point is 01:11:21 trying to make sure these two things finish at the same time. What is this? Sexual intercourse? I got to make sure they're finished at the same time because what you're not going to have me do is buy some two-for-one parabins. sludge at the school. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I don't want. No, but this is the thing. Why haven't we figured out as a society? Put the conditioner in smaller bottles. Or to sell two sizes of one or the other, depending on what you go through faster. Finishing them at the same time is impossible. Meanwhile, body wash is sitting over there,
Starting point is 01:11:50 minding its own business, staying iconic. I keep my side of the street clean, it says. But shampoo and conditioners is a toxic relationship. I will never, ever, ever be able to chance. Being in the shower is hell. every day for some people, because guess what? I feel like I'm failing at life if I can't keep those at the same time. And that's what minute. You need a three
Starting point is 01:12:09 in one. You need a three and one. A body wash, shampoo conditioner. I've never understood the problem with three and one. People are like, now. It's, it compromises on so much. It does. It's like, yes. Conditioner is a totally different thing. You got to moisturize. Tell us about it. It's a totally different thing.
Starting point is 01:12:25 You got it. Shampo is a cleaner. Conditioners is like, like, yeah. It's different. You know what I mean? It's different. No, this is the son of a hairdresserer. A son of a Long Island hairdresser I don't even know this stuff, I know. Talk about volume. There you go. And I'm adrift over here.
Starting point is 01:12:41 No. Well, thank you for your service. I feel like we're not talking about this enough. As a culture. Clearly, and also the word paraben being mentioned, the fact that words like paraben sludge, which is what it is. The fact that words like that exist up here.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Come on. That's my bestie. That's my bestie. Are you guys besties? Yes. Are you besties? You didn't just get thrown together. No.
Starting point is 01:13:01 No, we've got each other since college. We didn't win a casting call. Yeah. We've known each other since like 18, 19. Yeah. Did you ever date? No. No.
Starting point is 01:13:11 No, just. I know everyone thinks that. Just asking. Just trying to get all the background. We never really get like directly asked the question. No. I did. I just asked you.
Starting point is 01:13:19 You're allowed to ask. Journalist, J-Lo. I know. By the way, I hate if you ask me, don't ask them. We're not going to ask, don't worry. But we are going to ask you to do, and I don't think so on here. I don't know what to do. You have something.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I'm sure I do. Here, I want you to do like a legato, I don't think so. I want you just like this. Keep it in this tone and speed. I just want you to like ruminate, okay? Trevor Lopez is I don't think so every time starts new. I don't think so. When people come to me, knowing what my schedule is and how crazy it can be,
Starting point is 01:13:46 and not fill me in on all the details, they leave out the details. They are trying to be helpful. They are trying to be respectful. They're trying to be, you know, the favorite person. But they're not. They're not. They really make my life stressful and full of anxiety. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:14:04 It's not fun in that way. I really much rather know everything ahead of time. Be honest with me. We need information. All I'm saying is be honest with me. I want you to be honest with me. You don't have to lie to me. You know how they lie to celebrities all the time?
Starting point is 01:14:17 Don't do that. No. Tell me the truth. I can take it. I can take it. Just tell me. Tell me, this is what's going to happen. This is what you need to know.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Have me prepped. Have me prepared. I like rehearsal I want to rehearse I want to be prepared I want to do it I have the discipline you can you can be honest with me
Starting point is 01:14:38 just be honest with me I hate when people are not honest I don't think so yes and we will never lie to you sometimes I do get the sense that when people are get to a certain level yeah yeah they'll kind of like
Starting point is 01:14:52 I don't know if they get worried or like they don't want to be the person who delivers the bad news or whatever And it's like, it's okay. Or they're rolling onto the information and making sure they want to, they package it right and present it in the right way. Don't do that. Don't just tell me. Are you someone that likes it like.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Straight. Straight. I love it straight. Not like, hi. No. So. What do you say? Spit it out.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I literally, I'm like, spit it out. Spit it out. I want you to feel free of this. Be free of it. Yes, yes, yes, yes. On that note, on that note, I think the reason we love you and people love you is because you were an excellent communicator as we're talking about communication. I think that's your through line as well.
Starting point is 01:15:32 You know how to connect with an audience. Thank you so much for communicating with us. Thank you for coming on this show. And thank you for the years of joy and entertainment that you have brought. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, like, they throw around the word icon, but you are because you, you back it up. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:48 And, like, just the amount of times I've, like, left with a big smile on my face after seeing you do what you do is countless. I appreciate you guys so much. You guys are fantastic. This has been the best part of my press tour Oh my gosh Clip it, clip it The clip it and send it out to the masses
Starting point is 01:16:06 And always rooting for you We end every episode with the song Wait, you play a song No we do one We sing one in front of the guests Even our recording artist guests Oh wow okay Which one you pick in
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Starting point is 01:16:39 I'm going to play that at home. Authentically. You guys are amazing. Bye. Bye. Lost Culture Reis, this is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and High Heart Radio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yeh.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Executive produced by Anna Hosnii and produced by Becker Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Bain. And our music. is by Henry Kversky. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.
Starting point is 01:17:21 How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love? Again. Listen to heavyweight on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I'll work my ass off for me. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally, like, in the right hand. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield.
Starting point is 01:18:41 It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast appeals back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis. is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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