Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Baby Is Retinol!" (w/ Keke Palmer)
Episode Date: January 18, 2023Keke Palmer on Las Culturistas. Must we elaborate?! NOPE. Pun intended, tbh! The legend has landed to talk shooting Nope, hosting SNL and being a part of a "team" making art, bodying "Freddy, My Love"... in Grease Live! and knowing when it's time to turn off. Also, Keke's experience as a child star, navigating the industry as a multi-hyphenate artist, the cultural impact of the "Sorry To This Man" meme, Jenifer Lewis, hosting a daytime television show and how Keke's skincare secret is getting knocked up. All this, Selena, The Wood, and why Keke believes James Cameron "has to be stopped!" Could Keke be the next Sigourney?! She IS the queen of our lives. Listen to her podcast, Baby, This Is Keke Palmer now! #HandsFree See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, I see.
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Wow, is that culture?
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I was just talking today.'m sorry on set and miss ariana grande herself did ask me she said not to be all teen vogue but who's
your favorite host ever and i said ever ever it's not even recency bias up in here i said it's kiki
palmer your scream queens co-star and And then Ariana said, of course, absolutely.
Can we say something?
Yes.
Justice for Scream Queens, because that show delivered every time.
And it needs to be said and said out loud and projected.
And can I say with my full chest, you know who actually, when they were,
this is years ago, when they were first batting around the casting rumors for Wicked,
I said Kiki palmer because i've been saying kiki palmer literally for anyone's casting list for years okay i am for me it's kiki and then everyone else i am so excited i am going off i literally
i've been like stewing around i've been sort of pacing my apartment boat my iconic Hollywood apartment
just sort of walking around stalking around
so excited I even watch
Nope and the readers know that
I don't do scary
but I will get into Nope
and it was one of my favorite movies of the year
oh my gosh I love you
I love you
I live for you it's giving
you have vision it's giving musical theater.
It's giving all the things.
A hundred percent.
But let's just say this voice that's coming from on high, Bowen, who is it?
And if you feel that you must even say some credits, then sure.
But if you don't know who this person is, sorry to this man, as they say.
As they say.
This is the thing.
When you talk about this person, it is like, it's not even a list.
It's a four dimensional
sort of snapshot of time
where you go,
oh my God,
where to begin?
You go,
okay,
there's the acting.
There's the film.
There's the True Jackson VP.
There's the Virgo tendencies.
There's the Lauren.
There is period.
There's the cover of Man in the Mirror from Joyful Noise. There's the Lauren. There is period. There's the cover of Man in the Mirror
from Joyful Noise.
There is PTV.
There is Akilah and the Bee.
There is Akilah and the Bee.
There is
absolutely the music video of
Hands Free. There is
Yes!
Gonna do the mama like you want to.
There is people that don't quit me featuring Joel Kim Booster, our girl.
There is all the things.
There is hustlers.
Never forget hustlers.
Never forget Mercedes.
Never forget Mercedes.
Oh my gosh.
I mean, we're so excited she's here.
There's no better guest we could ask for.
Literally none.
Everyone, please welcome
into your ears kiki palmer it's been like a threat to our readers like one day we're getting kiki
palmer we swear and now that the day is here it's so exciting you guys i'm coming live from my closet
and you know i could not wait to come on this show you guys are fab i'm just ready for us to get into it love yes i mean much to get into i mean
when i tell you like kiki i'm such a fan but like then with nope i just watched nope the other day
because it took me a long time because i i do get scared but i've had a big horror weekend because
i watched nope and also megan megan is the new girl storming the theaters and megan i saw as
well honey you did i did you can always
catch me at the cinema love i was there opening night because i do love scary you know i do and
also i love horror specifically and it you know it made me think about chucky you know little
child's play we're taking a little bit modern you know what i mean i'm here for an ai takeover
so i was there in the theaters
and it was absolutely hilarious i love like a genre that also is satire at the same time and
when miss mama started playing on the piano toy soldier i almost wept like that's the kind of
humor that i'm looking for the cover of titanium by sia really took me and all of America out. Like girl. And that dance, who choreographed it?
Who had Megan's hips moving like that?
It was everything.
She really had hips for a little girl doll.
I mean, she was giving, it was suggestive.
I was like, Megan.
Bowen, you got to go.
Well, I bought one of the first tickets in London
to go see this movie.
I'm seeing it Friday.
By the time this episode comes out,
I will have seen it and I will be able to join in
in the discourse. Oh, good. Come on seeing it Friday. By the time this episode comes out, I will have seen it, and I will be able to join in the discourse.
Oh, good. Come on, discourse.
Talk about horror satire. I mean,
nope. Now it is a
awards-lauded performance
and well-deserved.
You really, really, really
killed that. I had heard
so much about the movie, and I finally
got up to seeing it, and it actually really exceeded
my expectations. It actually really called back to one of my favorite movies which was Jaws this
movie is Jaws in the sky in a way that I had heard but then only really could appreciate and watching
it and like I mean kudos the movie is so great and I'm sure everyone that listens to this podcast
has seen it but like just tremendous uh that thrills me so much i thank you so much it's just been a crazy and amazing experience first of
all just collaborating with jordan was fabulous hoyta daniel kaluuya i mean universal it's been
a first class experience for me all the way around um and so i'm just glad that people also
are able to enjoy the movie and like you said it has so many things going on in his genre but it's also
you know it has satirical moments it's
funny it has odes to all the kinds
of films that we love you know Jordan
sprinkled in so many different references but at the
end of the day it still is this story
of this character overcoming you know
like in Jaws you know the monster
in the water and then the monster in the sky
so it is really
great experience it's such
a clever movie about show business or about spectacle obviously but like i mean i heard is
this true because i had heard from someone i forget who but they were saying that like
oh did you know that kiki delivered a different version of that beginning spiel about her you
know emerald and oj's family business like you gave a different version of that
monologue every single take yeah that's like the legend of it and there's already there's already
like such like a mythos about the movie and it's like that is like legendary status oh my gosh thank
you so much that gives me so much joy you know your girl comes to set prepared honey i'm ready
to do it anyway you want me to do it so i definitely you know i'm one of those actors where it's like if this is how they wrote it i'm sticking to do it any way you want me to do it. So I definitely, you know, I'm one of those actors where it's like,
if this is how they wrote it, I'm sticking to the damn script unless
they tell me otherwise. But soon as
Jordan told me to have fun with it, yeah,
like, we did it probably, like, six times
normal, and then the rest of the times,
like, once he saw that I was, like, gonna be
improv-ing, he was like, keep going, keep going,
keep going, and so I just said, honey, I'm improv-ing
my little heart out. And so we just kept
changing it up at the end, and that's when you know you you get the little singing on the side like i just
started just acting like a fool towards the end because he gave me the permission to do so it was
it was a lot of fun did you get to go to universal studios and experience like the nope set like the
actual jupiter's claim absolutely you talking about the one that they put up in there after we filmed yeah yeah which by the way to me I did I mean I wonder how Jordan feels because that
apparently has never happened for a movie before its release you know usually it happens for movies
after they've already hit you know crazy numbers like for instance like Jaws or any of Universal's
classics they have them there but after the movie has already been a hit so
the belief that Universal already had in note to put that there like to give it that legendary
status before it was even released I know Jordan must have been through the moon but you know for
me to go there after we had filmed it and you know it to be coming out I really just felt like man
this is like really cool I mean I've been acting now for about 20 years almost
over 20 years and so for me it's just like i keep having these great new experiences um you know and
now as an adult so it's just like wow i'm just so happy that i can keep you know this experience
with my art and this medium can continue to get richer and richer it's so cool i mean just to be
a part of something that they immortalize like that in like a theme park sense like the little kid in me and the adult now would be so gagged
by that i remember i went and it was like the halloween horror nights so it wasn't it wasn't
even the tram it's rolling through it was we actually got to walk through and it was character
from us and also nope like you know jumping out at you so we actually got to walk through
jupiter's claim
and this is prior to me having seen the movie but now i feel like i have to go back because i've now
seen it and i know how jupiter's claim figures in and i gotta experience it but just to to be in
something that's like that big of an event that they immortalize in that way has to be like
a crazy pinch me moment it is and i don't think you always really grasp it you know i mean like
i remember asking other people you know the same question or saying you know wow this movie
what was that experience like and you know they would give me good sufficient answers but i know
now being in that position like what they must have been thinking is like you know what it's
just kind of like just glad and thankful and thrilled you know because here's this thing
that you've been doing for all these years and all this time and you know you're always looking to collaborate with
different people obviously Jordan Peele's don't come around often nor do Daniel Kaluuya's so
definitely definitely feel a different vibe of just like wow I'm really working with some
incredible talented people but then at the end of the day it's just like this is our craft this is
what we love and it's insane when people respond this way but the truth is we do it anyway you know what i mean i would be excited anyway but the fact that
there's this huge commercial appeal yeah it's kind of the thing where you don't even really
know how to process you know what i mean totally oh kiki you sent um such a nice gift to everyone
at snl the week after you hosted And everyone was so happy to receive it.
But then I read your note that you sent.
And I don't know if you remember writing this,
but you said something about,
my favorite thing in the world is to be part of a team.
And thank you all for letting me be part of a team.
Okay, I'm wondering,
is this what is driving Kiki Palmer
to do all of this stuff?
Like truly everything, you're in every corner,
you're doing everything that
can possibly be done in front of the camera behind the camera it's amazing thank you so much i do
really love to be a part of a team i don't know maybe it's the middle child in me you know i grew
up one of four and so my family is also very like we're very inclusive and we're very like
we're together on this and i think it's just built in me to know that you can only really get some great things done when you do it as a team.
And then also, my parents come from theater.
You know, even though I started out in film and TV, I think ultimately my heart and my foundation of loving, you know, entertaining comes from the theater.
You know, it comes from the way they taught me, which was theater.
And what do you do in theater?
You acknowledge and you respect your team.
Everybody's doing this together.
You know, we're all in it.
Look, no pun intended, High School Musical.
We're all in this together.
So that totally is the heart of who I am as an entertainer.
You know, it's very Vaudeville-esque.
It's very like, take me to the crew and the cast
and let's round it up.
Let's get it.
You know, so when I was doing SNL,
it really felt like I was at home.
And I was just so happy to be a part of the cast in that way because it is a little bit of TV and it is a little bit of theater.
It doesn't really get much better than that for me.
You know what I mean?
You get audience, you get to do stuff with your cast and your crew.
You still get to do a little stuff in the camera,
but you still get to be live and in the moment.
You know, that's the magic.
So I really love that experience.
And I love being able to be a part of, you know, you guys' family.
It was an honor.
And it reminds me, and Matt and I were talking about this the other day, it reminds me of you doing Grease Live.
If you feel like we're not going to bring up Grease Live, you'd be incorrect.
Marty had never been played this way. Freddie, Live. Marty had never been played this way.
Freddie, my love,
had never been sung this way.
Freddie, my love.
Freddie, my love.
The galvanized look into the...
I remember they gave you
like a moment where the camera
like circled you
and you were giving the number
and I was like,
I'm sorry,
but this girl is stealing
the whole show in a half.
Honey, and I changed the outfit
on y'all asses.
Yes.
Period.
On the USO crowd.
That was such an experience of a lifetime and it's so
funny because as a kid i think the way that people described musicals i would always be like i hate
musicals you know but then meanwhile i'm playing crybaby back and forth like girl you actually love
musicals it was like a trick that i would play on myself and then as i got older and i started
getting the opportunity to obviously be in musicals i mean when i did greece live i'm just like this is home honey i am here i'm having i
mean me and vanessa like we were oh that was such a moment i live for miss vanessa hudgens honey she
gives me live like i just live for her and we had so much fun filming us filming yeah filming and
rehearsing because you know the main thing is the rehearsing
with one of those live event things because once you do it it's over so we spent months rehearsing
and me and her we would just show up to that sunset honey laughing and cackling and just
having our blast doing our edibles but we had the time of our lives i mean i'll always remember that
oh that is the best i mean talk
about being part of a team too because that also has the high stakes of like any live performance
or any like you know high school musical moment of like it's time for the big show but then it's
like it's not it's time for the biggest show it's on television period yes literally and we were
changing like stages you know i'm saying like that was one of the i think that was the only time
you know that that ever been done so we were really coming with some like crazy technical stuff
so i would just remember us running from stage to stage and getting in the golf carts and i mean we
lived for it honey we lived yeah yeah it looked like so much fun literally y'all were in the golf
carts the cameras were following you guys in the golf carts in between it was so much fun i loved
it and then just like the energy of greece as a show is so energetic and up like the way y'all
just like had to leap into that last number like that we go together of it all like it's just it
not only was like high energy on screen but also the audience like has such a connection to that
musical that like for me that was the best one that they ever did i mean they like networks why like i love yeah the days the days
but you know what i mean i know exactly what you mean the networks and they do feel very much so
ominous in that way yeah well yeah absolutely when was cinderella because let's not forget
we have we have a cinderella in our midst we have a Cinderella in our midst. We have a Broadway, Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella.
So Cinderella was before Grease Live.
Cinderella is actually what Mark Platt saw me do that also made him really want me for Grease Live,
which is why they had that.
You know, they really did specify that role for me. Because I'll be honest, you know, as a minority, you know, we get into the stage, guys,
where everybody just wants a minority because it's like having a Gucci bag, child.
It's like, put a minority in it's like having a gucci bag child it's like put a minority in it you know what i mean and so when they came when they came to me with grease live i'm like now guys are you just trying to stick
a minority in it because that's the thing to do or like what is the point of this you know what
and he was like you know the point is you're the only one that can do what we want to do with Marty. I saw you on Cinderella.
I saw what you did on Broadway.
And we don't want to do the Marty from the movie.
We want to mix the Marty from the movie and the Marty with the musical.
And we feel like what we can do with your number is something that I've already seen you do.
We want to do a transformation on stage.
We want to do this and that.
And so he's like, you're the only the reason why we want you yeah it's great you're black but it really is about the fact that you have the skills
for the role um and so that really helped me because i i really did come to him like that
and i really feel proud of myself doing that in hindsight because you know you got to be honest
and i was just like look i don't want this to be like a tokenism type of thing i don't want to just
be like we stuck the black bitch in you know like let's make it have meaning what's the point and
it was because of my talent and so i really appreciated that you know what i mean and so
yeah cinderella is what he saw me do and that's what made him say she's our marty yeah what i
really wanted to talk to you about like and i feel like bowen and i like sort of have to negotiate
this more and more is like when you show that you're able to host and you show that you're able to act and able to sing
and able to do so many things, yes, it's like great because the opportunities come your way.
But something I specifically wanted to ask you is how do you choose what to do next and how to
let everyone know who you are out there that's watching in an industry that oftentimes is like
demands you be really specific about your brand like are you an actress are you a host are you a
reality show person are you a singer but you seem to be all of those things in a way that not only
is because you can do it but because you choose to do it. And that can be sometimes kind of nerve wracking, no?
Because.
Yeah.
The biggest thing is,
is it sounds very flat.
It's probably not enough is that I really do like doing all those different things.
And it's based off of me giving myself diversity in my career.
Like I feel like I truly an artist in this regard where it's like,
I like different mediums,
you know what I mean?
I can't do the same medium because I would literally just boom,
blow my brains out.
Like, I love acting, but I don't always want to dive into a character so damn deep that I lose myself.
Sometimes I want to be me, Kiki Palmer, and give you all my crazy personality.
Then other times I want to produce because I don't want to talk to none of you motherfuckers.
And then another time I might want to write because I really want to be removed from y'all asses.
You know, or then I want to, you know, so it's like, but I can't can't step away from art because it guys it's literally what I live breathe and think like it's like it's what
keeps me going in my nights you know what I mean like I love artistry like I'm in the movies all
the time I'm you know watching theater I'm going to shows like it's just what I live for and so
I think I I started doing all those different things because of that reason.
And I wanted to give myself diversity and I wanted to be able to exercise other skills so that I wouldn't always have to be a performer in one particular way or a performer at all.
You know what I mean?
I do see a version of my life where I don't have I'm not performing every damn project that I do.
You know, somebody else is starring.
Somebody else is.
Yeah, you're not facing.
Yeah, exactly. It's else is starring somebody else. Yeah, you're not as front facing.
Yeah, exactly. It's exhausting.
It's exhausting.
And it's like, I love the idea of being able to share what I've learned and giving it to
other young kids and young people out there that are trying to break into this industry.
So, you know, it is hard, but I think, you know, you just got to go with your heart.
I've always gone with my heart.
And to be honest, a lot of doors were shut for me.
And so I, you know, me doing other things also was based off of, hey, I got to make a living.
I got to I got to find something else.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to just be like acting is my only damn gig.
No, I got to be able to have another gig.
And guess what?
I'm interested, too.
And so you can't be afraid.
You got to be doing it for the right
reasons. I can guarantee you that I never did something saying this will make me a star.
No, that's never, you can never do. Oh my gosh. That is like a recipe for disaster. It's always
been, well, what else can I do to stay in this space? What else can I add? How much more fun
can I have doing something or what else can interest me? You know, what other direction can I go when it comes to entertaining?
Yeah.
Because I think it's confusing now to be in this culture where the messages are
mixed because either you hear that you should do a lot of things,
you should be a lot of things to a lot of different people,
or you should just stay in your lane.
Like those are,
I think those are conflicting messages,
right?
But it's like what we hear all the time.
How our generation is. And by the way, it's that way with our careers it's that
way with our identities it's like everywhere in our lives somebody is telling our asses to go left
and then somebody else is telling our asses even in love love is hard then the next breath love
should be easy baby yeah it should be work it should be easy yeah yeah which i was gonna say
that for you kiki I feel like your art,
and this is what you were saying earlier,
your art is the fact that you do all these things.
Your art is that you can do all these things.
Is that fair?
Yes, and what I was going to say to you was that, you know what?
It's okay if everybody doesn't.
Yes.
We go through so many different things about how to be happy
or how to be successful.
And then somebody says, well, the trick is you got to do a lot of things.
And somebody else says, the trick is you can't do too much.
The trick is to be yourself.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
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I have a question for you,
which is,
so I bet a lot of people
would like observe
Kiki Palmer in nature
and be like,
that's an extrovert for sure.
How do you identify?
Do you identify as a
10 out of 10 extrovert?
Or are you more like,
what's unwinding for you? Like, and do you need that? Are you on? of 10 extrovert or are you more like what's unwinding
for you like and do you need that are you the truth is i'm tired of folks i'm very much i'm
very much an extrovert in terms of like once i'm outside yeah i can't give y'all nothing half ass
that's just not right you know what i mean so i become an extrovert just by demand you know
that's what the people demand from me so and it's been since i was a kid
and before i was an entertainer i just felt like we got to pep this shit up around here
yeah so my energy would always become extroverted and i would give in that way that's like what
birthed me as an entertainer it's just kind of like how i energy yes but when it's time to get
real i don't want no one around my ass like genuinely i'm in the house get real, I don't want no one around my ass. Like, genuinely, I'm in the house for real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't want, like, I literally just have to realize that I don't really like a damn resort, honestly.
Because I don't want to see nobody.
You know, I don't want to see you, talk to you, nothing.
Got it.
Like, I've realized that vacation for me is like, the best vacation is me in a trailer somewhere, isolated.
Like, that's literally, I don's like to be around people that much.
Isn't that crazy how you can be so extroverted, but then so introverted at the same time?
I'm the same exact way.
And you know what's funny?
I didn't even realize it until the pandemic.
The pandemic came through and I was I was like that kind of person that was like, especially when I lived in New York.
If there's not six things a day on my G cal, I feel like a failure.
I would go to bed, shut my eyes and be like, well, tomorrow, maybe, maybe I'll do something.
Yeah.
Then the pandemic happened.
And because we were forced to sit around and do nothing, I realized like, oh, it's not
that I was being unproductive at like five things, six things a day.
It's just that like, I was used to going too hard.
And then when I sat around a little bit, I was like, wait, am I an introvert? And I don't think
that's true. But what I realized is it's actually okay to literally turn all the way off. And that's
beneficial to life. Literally, I think it's really beneficial to life. Really, I think it's beneficial
for both. Like if you're somebody that's extremely introverted, I think it's beneficial beneficial to life really i think it's beneficial but for both like if you're somebody that's extremely introverted i think it's beneficial to get out a little bit and if you're
somebody that's extremely extroverted or or has a tendency to give a little bit more in the company
of others even with you know so just subconsciously you kind of fill the space uh you know without
even trying to you should take a break sometimes you know I mean? It's okay to be in the house and to
actively create scenarios for you to kind of just like be alone. You know, there's a difference
between being alone and being lonely. Just because you're alone doesn't mean you're lonely. You know
what I mean? Just because you're lonely doesn't mean you're alone. I think we treat it like
skincare because literally it's this thing where like the daytime routine is you're getting ready
to go outside. You're protecting yourself from, like, all of the elements of the outside world.
The nighttime routine is you're recuperating and you're recovering internally
so that, like, by the time you wake up, you're, like, fully refreshed.
It's, like, that kind of thing where it's, like, the barrier has to be, like, maintained.
The barrier has to be, like, upheld and safe.
The balance has to be kept.
The balance has to be kept. balance has to be kept speaking of
skincare okay kiki first of all congrats you just won new york film critic circle award for best
supporting actress for nope congratulations and it was at that same night you went home and you did
you posted this video on instagram or maybe tiktok where you were like i've unlocked the secret to
skincare what is it honey it's getting knocked up.
Yeah?
You got to have a baby, okay?
Because the way that this baby has had... So let me tell you something.
I've dealt with a lot of skin issues,
mainly because of hormones.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes, I'll be honest,
sometimes the hormone stuff is triggered by...
First of all, I think I'm naturally born that way
with a little bit more testosterone.
If your hormones are unbalanced like mine's can be, you probably produce more. You know what I'm naturally born that way with a little bit more testosterone. If your hormones are unbalanced like mine's can be, you probably produce more.
You know what I'm saying?
Just the way that your glands work, it just don't work for the skin.
And it can affect everybody differently.
Some people, it can make them gain weight.
It can give them acne.
It can make them have skin discolorations.
You know, the list goes on when it comes to hormones and food and just all that stuff.
So I've always dealt with that, right?
And I've always been on this journey of trying to figure it out.
You know what I mean?
And people will try to tell me, drink water.
You know what I mean?
It's this, it's that.
Nothing topical can really save you from your biology.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Changing your diet is honestly probably the best thing that you can do.
However, when you get pregnant your hormones change
and i'm just gonna tell you something right now whatever that damn baby is doing to me
whatever that baby is giving to me it has balanced me y'all it really truly has given the baby has
given me whatever that i didn't have before that That baby has given it to me, honey. The baby is working.
My baby is helping me already, y'all.
And the way that, I just can't even believe this. The baby is retinol.
The baby is retinol.
The baby is hitting.
The baby is motherfucking Accutane.
Like, quit playing around.
The baby is getting it going.
And I'm just shocked, y'all, because, you know,
I've changed my diet and stuff like that.
And I'm sure that my diet is helping to some degree like I haven't been eating a lot
of gluten um I haven't been eating dairy that obviously is helping right yeah but I've done
that before without the baby and I didn't receive these extreme of results so I mean I do believe
that the baby y'all I don't know what i'm gonna do i'm about
to be pregnant for the rest of my life yeah because yes if this is what babies can do for you
the real gift the real gift of skincare and actress's pregnancy down i love it down and so
i'm thrilled but how are you feeling though? Has it been good outside of that? I think that my baby is like a warrior or something like this because I've been good, y'all.
My baby has, I have not had no nausea.
Really?
Like, I've had moments where it's like, like where I'll be just sitting there.
It's kind of funny.
It's kind of funny how it happens.
Like, guys, I'll be sitting there there and in the middle of a conversation with someone
and then all of a sudden I'll just go...
It'll just make me feel that way
and then I'll just be over with.
I won't actually throw up.
I won't actually need to run to the bathroom.
It doesn't last more than 10 seconds.
It's like a wave.
It's like a wave of something.
And I'm like...
That's right.
Wait, my aunt was pregnant and i sometimes we'd be sitting
there she'd be in her bathing suit we'd be at the pool and i would just see like a hand like
literally go through the stomach is your baby moving around a lot my baby moves all the time
all the time a dancer right now i'm at like 31 weeks so So the baby is almost like, you know, it's getting bigger.
And eventually it's going to get to the point where I probably will see fingers and stuff like that.
But I don't know if it's that big yet.
Like, I don't know if the power is there yet.
But I definitely feel and you can see some movement.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Were you telling me this is going to be an Aquarius baby or a Pisces baby?
Pisces baby.
That just like me.
Pisces baby.
So tell me what I need to damn know because March.
Emotional.
Emotional.
I'm born March 5th.
I'm a Pisces rising Pisces cancer moon.
So I'm about to break into tears right now.
Yes, you are really in the motions deep with that.
It's giving water sign very very
deeply and i would say your child is going to be emotional and there's going to be swings but it's
going to be worth it because the baby will be creative and sensitive and love you love you to
death pisces i actually believe are mama's children oh my gosh yes i'm just so thrilled
about that because i really just tell you i'm I'm so excited to be dancing with my damn baby.
Absolutely.
I'm excited to just be like, hey, baby.
Like, I'm just ready to be just giving all the love and attitude.
And so tell me what they said to you.
Did you gag their ass?
Like, I'm ready to just, like, go to town with this damn baby, y'all.
I just think about it every day.
I'm just like, what's it gonna be like
when you know i first lay eyes on you and you know how's it gonna be when we get our first moments
together you know what i mean but also are you gonna bust my damn vagina apart that too well
probably yeah just by nature oh my gosh you guys i just learned that the epidural is like a tube
that they stick in your back that's scarier than the damn natural birth i don't know what i'm gonna
do guys during childbirth you might not be thinking that way that's what they said you might
be like let's plug me in he might be asking for everybody wants that i was reading shit where
people are like my back ain't never been the same i'm like what the fuck they they really do lie
about childbirth though like when you're a little kid and they're like, and she's pregnant.
She goes for nine months to have a healthy baby.
And then it's like you get to be an adult
and you realize like really what it is.
It's like, oh, okay.
So this shouldn't happen, but does.
You know, the whole thing is like
the painful thing about it is like
your vagina stretching to the size
of a fucking baby watermelon.
Like, oh my God.
Come on.
Scream Queens.
Right.
But how funny is it?
Me and mostly all the Scream Queens have kids or, you know, pregnant.
Yeah.
Me, myself, Emma, like all of us.
Emma.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
The Scream Mothers.
Scream Mothers show. Oh, Joe Kim Booster Pisces too. Joe Kim Booster Pisces. A leap year baby. all of us emma yes yeah oh my god the scream mothers scream mothers show oh joel can booster
pisces too can booster pisces a leap year baby daniel and jordan too oh really wow that makes
a lot of sense because okay i just want to say more about nope because like what i also loved
was it's actually a really emotional movie yes and i actually think like it's really crazy with
jordan because so get out happens and it's one thing.
It's like the satire of our time, I believe.
I believe that there has not been a better script written.
And then there's Us, which is more surreal horror.
And then there's Nope, which...
And I think if you were thinking Jordan Peele, you'd think, oh, horror first nowadays.
And then he has satirical elements.
But these are three very different movies.
Nope really is like
this sci-fi western that calls back to horror movies in many different ways but what i love
about sci-fi and western is it really does have a very like emotional core and like this is about
like bone was saying it is about like fame and spectatorship but i also find it's like a very
thoughtful movie about nature and about how some things are just
bigger than us and like we do have to have reverence and awe but also like it's a pretty
simple story about family and like just so many things but one comment I specifically wanted to
make and the cinephiles out there probably picked up on this but my favorite scene in the whole
movie is when you guys are sitting with the cinematographer in the house
before the big events of the climax and he says that monologue about the one-eyed one-horned
purple people eater what i loved about that was that was specifically mapped on the quint monologue
in jaws and this is how you know that jordan really, first and foremost, truly a comedian. Because no filmmaker that was up his own ass would ever be like,
and I'm going to spend this moment in the movie referencing this iconic scene
from a movie that so obviously has inspired this one.
But that was really like, I was laughing and rolling in my house watching that.
Because the whole one-eyed, one-horned, giant purple people ear to monologue
taking the place
of that iconic monologue that quint did in jaws to me that was like such a funny irreverent thing
for him to do and so it succeeded for me on that level too like so much funnier than i think people
are talking about it shows that he really really understands film and film structure and his whole entire point to
spin it all on its head from Steven Yeun being an Oscar nominated actor.
And then us having characters like key from everybody,
everywhere,
all at once who started out as a kid actor and never got a chance to really
be a star.
Like that paved the way for the reality of someone like Steven Yeun being,
being who he is and not being the brunt of a joke or just existing to be a cliche because of his identity.
Like that's the movie that that can be made and that should be made.
He should be the star.
He should be on the posters.
He should be the one we're going to see or the fact that he's amazing.
I love both of them.
Key and Steven.
But just like what that is.
And then the fact of the whole commentary on my character, who you assume is just going to be the jester, who's just the comedic edge, but then turns around and somehow finds her way to becoming the hero as a black queer woman.
It's like this is the structure.
This is the thing.
But this is the now without being like on a nose. You is the now. Without being, like, on a nose.
You know what I mean?
It's like, how did you do it?
Yeah, I love that.
There were so many layers,
and I think it's just so smart.
And I think, honestly,
the stuff with the chimp on the set of the sitcom
was some of the most inventive,
genuinely scary stuff I had ever seen.
And the detail of the shoe as like a pull from a
traumatic memory that shows how his memory of it is really distorted was just really really well
done i mean unless i'm like breaking news nope was great but like it took me a while because i
really do get scared and very anxious i'm an anxious person it's hard for me to sit in a movie
theater and like really do that without focusing the entire time not on the movie but on how i'm physically feeling because my shoulders are up to my ears
but i'm really happy i got out of my own way and watch this because any movie lover would love this
movie uh yes i feel the exact same way and that's the thing like any movie lover like if you love
movies you're gonna love everything jordan does yeah i'm excited for
what's next so does that script get sent to you or do you have to audition for it that script
is crazy as it is jordan called me on the phone sent me the script and it was mine you know and
it's so funny because that is such a rare thing guys it really is it's a rare thing for you to
just get a script and it's like you know especially for it to be someone on jordan peele's level so like for him to be that certain that he wanted me for the role um is in incredible
you know but again it's for me it all is so meta too because it's just like you know here this movie
is where we have this whole dialogue about a child star and exploitation um You know, and here I am as a child entertainer.
And I feel very much like, you know, wrangling the industry and becoming who I've become
and being, as you guys were saying, somebody that has not stuck to the norm or what people
told me to be.
I very much from my in my own way felt like I was wrangling a beast that at the end of
it, I stood tall on the other side
and then none of it really mattered in the end like to prove myself or to be validated or for
people to recognize me you know once you make it to that that point and you realize and you see
things for what they really are like Emeril does when she's at the top of that mountain and she
really sees the thing for what it really is, the only thing that matters is family. You know, the only thing that matters
are the things that are priceless,
and most usually the things you've already always had.
Yeah.
Oh, come on.
You know, so again, it's so,
the movie hits us all in so many different unique ways,
and it's like, how can one movie have so many meanings?
Yeah.
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you mentioned being like you know a child actor and i wonder like nowadays like we hear so many different accounts of people who went through that experience, like, you know, Jeanette McCurdy's book and like the way that we've like had to reexamine like the Britney Spears of it all and so many things.
I wonder what's your personal narrative of being a child star and how you came through that?
Because we don't hear you talk about that too
much yeah i definitely had my moments of being like angry and being just overworked and tired
i think all of us did you know when you're a kid working in corporate because let's be honest as
we all know it's entertainment honey but it's still corporate you know we we just like everybody
else there is an element of the man said so so you know what i mean we all feel that and so it was
the same for me as a kid working with nickelodeon and disney and having to do hours and hours of
of shooting and hours and hours of marketing and then i didn't go to real school and my parents
were really strict and overprotective and i was making a lot of money and my parents were scared
of that because they didn't want me to become an asshole so then they were really even more strict
and i felt like they didn't understand me and then we had beef and you know all of that stuff does happen
because fame is traumatic and a child being a star you know having their own show is traumatic
it changes the entire family structure and everything kind of ends up going towards that
child helping to support that child that business that. And it's just like not a usual thing that you deal with. And so
I'm very blessed and grateful that my family overcame it because what we often hear and what
people often think about when they think about child actresses, you know, so-and-so they ain't
kind of mama ain't cool no more, or, you know, so-and-so they got on drugs or, you know, money tore up the family.
And all those things could have happened to my family.
We definitely experienced intensity.
People trying to turn me against my parents.
People trying to steal me from my parents and break our trust and infiltrate our family dynamic.
All that shit is horrible.
But people do it.
We see it all the time.
You know what I mean?
We see it in succession. It ain't different just because you're a kid people are vicious out here
but my family and i we really overcame it and so i think and now because we overcame it and my adult
mind the way that i speak about all of that is very much so like oh you know yeah we just moved
on and you know i mean we found a way and we got through but if i would you know i wrote a book
about it and whenever i get really into it, I can really break it down.
But the truth of the matter is, is I look at it like any of us do any of our family trials and tribulations.
It's extreme to a person that didn't experience child acting.
But it's no different than you saying, I decided to forgive my parents or, you know, we got over it.
You know, we moved on. That's what it's like for me.
Crazy things happened.
It was intense.
But my parents, who told my parents how to raise a child, entertain it with our own damn show, making millions?
Right.
So they were doing the best they could.
And so, you know, that's how I look at it.
And I just move on.
And I love my parents.
We're very close still.
And my mom and I, we still do business together.
And my siblings and I were closer than ever especially now that I have more time you
know that was probably the saddest thing for me as a kid was never having enough time for anybody
yeah um you know I was working just so much I couldn't make it to any plays sometimes I would
miss holidays and that stuff used to kill me as a kid and so i definitely wanted to make that up to them
as i got older and um you know i definitely don't want that to be the reality for for my baby so
i've learned how to yeah how to maneuver when it comes to my career that makes total sense that's
kind of interesting like ultimately you saw the monster just like your character and nope and
realized what was important and you got y'all made it through.
Yeah.
Exactly.
That's why when I watch Nope, I recognize how I interpreted that for me.
It really was kind of like mind-blowing.
I like cried the craziest tears.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Incredible.
We should ask the question.
It's time.
And a perfect segue from childhood into the question
absolutely okay this is the question we ask all of our guests on let's culture east so kiki palmer
what is the culture that made you say culture is for me this is the pop culture that made you move
into that direction in your life so give me y'all's answers so i can understand exactly the context of
this question but what would you say for you like between, between the two of us, me and Matt,
like, I think our answers change individually
from time to time.
I think a common one that Matt and I share
is the 1998 Academy Awards
when Titanic was nominated for all those awards.
That was, like, what got me, like,
keyed into, like, show business.
And I was like, wow, this is what people can do.
And, like, there's Celine Dion singing
My Heart Will Go On.
And, like, there's, it just,
all of it sort of, like, opened up to me in this way.
It can be that it can even be before that.
Like for me, Mariah Carey,
Mariah Carey, the Butterfly album by Mariah Carey
changed who I was.
Also, like when I watched the television show Lost,
I realized I wanted to like be a part of television.
Like it's like those things that you can look back on
and you were like, but you started so young
that must have either happened either real young
or maybe even a little delayed because you were in the biz.
Yeah, I think it was a couple of things.
Yeah.
So I think one of them was Selena.
Yes.
Yes.
Woo!
When I watched Selena, the way that they hit me, the way that you can impact someone, the way that she was impacting her community.
Yes.
And had her community on her motherfucking back.
Yes.
I really. Honey. I really,
honey.
Who's on your shirt right now?
Is that Tony?
Yeah, who is on your shirt?
No, Muhammad Ali.
I thought that was like,
I thought that was
mid-90s Tony Braxton
for a second.
Just the top of the head
because of Lil' Fro.
That's hilarious.
And I was about to
really go in.
Okay, but That's hilarious. So Selena, that to really go in. Okay, but.
That's hilarious.
So Selena, that movie, that film.
Selena, that movie.
That movie really talk about somebody changing, something changing your life.
Yeah.
That movie.
Yeah.
I would say The Wood, which is this film by Rick Fumua.
It is about three guys.
It's Omar Epps, Taye Diggs, another actor who I hate that I can't remember his name.
But it's about these three guys.
You know, one of them is from the South the other two are from LA the dude from the south moves to LA specifically in Inglewood and it's about how they grew up in LA and it's like not
like a sad movie or like you know oh somebody got shot you know I mean and things went haywire it
was kind of just like a regular black American coming of age story and the culture was so present
but it wasn't rooted in oppression and i remember watching that as a kid and just being like man
just such a great movie about just young brothers growing up in america and like having a good life
and like getting ready to go to their wedding like the whole movie was told in flashbacks as
they are trying to get their best friend prepared for his wedding because he like woke up the next morning drunk and they're trying to get him to his wedding.
And the whole day they're like talking about, remember this when we was in high school?
And then we keep going back to flashbacks.
And so I remember watching that movie as a kid.
I think that definitely I've always felt very masculine as well as I feel feminine.
That's why I like if somebody were to ask me or to talk to me about about gender they would probably say the way that I think is very gender non-conforming I just don't
subscribe to the label of it because obviously I hate labels anybody that knows me knows labels
get on my damn nerves because it's like shit it makes me feel like y'all want to force me to just
be what you want me to be yeah so I'm a little bit like resistant in that regard and i do feel like i want to force people
to see a woman as being all these different things you know i'm saying i want to force your ass
to understand that yeah i can be this and i can be that and i can still be a woman you got to
fucking deal with it you know what i mean and so but but the way that i think about it is very much
so like gender non-conforming so when i watched that movie even though those were men i saw myself
and i wanted i admired these guys you know i'm saying i grew up with my dad's one of nine boys
my dad is an amazing dad and so i've always just loved seeing those images because just as much as
i wanted to emulate brandy or whitney i also wanted to emulate those images as well definitely
and so i really it really impacted me as a kid
seeing that movie it was so inspiring so the wood selena and then if i were to give like a third
i would just want to give you one last third because this is a heavy heavy question
it will probably be kiki palmer when she said sorry to this man i mean come on yeah
an entire generation i mean it's like it's like
it was a cultural reset it's like all other memes before that walked so kiki palmer sorry to this
man should run i mean literally in my group chat whenever the gays i'm in a group chat with say
someone i don't know i sent a picture of your face looking down at the paper i and they know
exactly that i don't know who the fuck they're talking about. They're like, oh, we're going to be
done with Charles.
By the way, guys,
when that thing happened,
it was as if
I had a hit movie
in theaters.
I'm like,
that,
the response,
the response
to Sorry to this Man
is absolutely,
like,
I cannot wait
to see what the world
is like in 20 years
so I can tell my kids,
like,
there was this
thing called memes yeah you know what i mean and i because our world is so unique and interesting
and that's like such a unique and very serendipitous insane thing that happened like for that meme to
be like that you probably left filming that that day and we're like not even thinking about it
no i was just like okay you, you know, moved on. You know what I mean?
Because it will be a thing where it's so organic.
It's like, you know, now that everything's going to be like AI
in the next like whatever.
Literally.
Or freaking Avatar.
Or freaking Avatar.
Avatar had my ass crying though.
I mean, come on.
It got us.
It really got us.
All three of us, I think.
That man has to be stopped
James has to be stopped he makes you cry too much all his movies I mean how is it that he's done
I think maybe just 10 movies or even under 10 movies three which are in the top two in which
are in the top three grossing movies ever one being Titanic the other being avatar and it's one thing for somebody to
give you visual effects i think a lot of people can give us visual effects right like i'm not
that i'm not impressed by it i think it's an incredible skill in art but of course most of
the time when someone gives you crazy action and visual effects they fall apart on the storyline The storyline has no integrity, no originality.
It has no emotion to it.
This man does both.
And I'm quite altered by it.
Because, and almost it makes me not want to go see his movies sometimes.
Because I've seen Titanic and everybody knows how I feel about that damn movie and what happened when my girl did not save Jack's life.
That tears me up to this day.
Now I had to go watch Avatar 2.
And when I went home,
I was silent the rest of the evening
because of what I had to go through
watching that movie.
That man has to be stopped
because he takes you on this action adventure
and emotionally connects you to these people
that aren't real.
And then you have to watch families get torn apart.
I'm tired of him, y'all.
I'm tired of him.
It's really culture number 40.
James Cameron must be stopped.
He's got to be stopped, y'all.
He's too much.
He's got a lot going on.
Well, we were saying, Bowen and I were saying the other day that because he makes movies with the intention of entertaining the entire world.
It's almost like he has a different assignment than everyone else.
He's like, my movies are going to be seen worldwide.
And so it's going to be broad and emotional enough that everyone has a way in.
And I think that's what we're responding to.
It's like there is something specific in human pain, in family, in sacrifice for family.
Like he has a very good grip on what is going to hit us in the heart because he's thinking in a very universal way because his movies are very universal.
It's so true.
You know, you have people online that are like, these are African people.
And then you have people like, these are Indian people.
And they're like, these are, everybody's like, these are my
people. And I'm like, that's James Cameron's point.
They're all of our people.
They're all, anybody that's connected to
an indigenous, when you watch that
movie, your feelings are hurt.
Because you're like, you go from the surface of what's happening in the movie to these movie feelings are hurt because you're like you go from
the surface of what's happening in the movie to these movie people and then you're like
this probably happened to my ancestors or this probably this happened to people in real life
oh shit he wants you to think about that he got me crying about a whale mama yeah we talked about
that whale mama oh because you know why a whale mama was murdered probably
just last week for the same type of reasons in this made-up creature in avatar like he is thinking
about that and tapping into every type of vibe that he has to be stopped y'all well this is the
thing for him to recoup on the on the budget of the film He has to appeal to the broadest audience possible, right? And so, these
movies end up being about family,
which everyone can relate to.
And then, the sort of unifying, the glue
of it all is this, like, I think
it's a very self-aware kind of, like,
cornball-ness. It's corny, because it's
corny. I think you're right, too.
Yes, yes. There's nothing more earnest about loving
family. And I also think people need to
stop thinking that corny and cheesy is not good.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I'm one of those people that absolutely I think an indie movie is great.
I think, you know, going super niche, super art house is absolutely radical.
But when you can give the emotion and the originality of a movie like that with the commercial appeal that people like James Cameron bring
to me
you're taking shit to the next fucking level
because I think
that is hard to freaking
do
Titanic is
who told him to put a love story in the middle of a historical event
that was James
and also the fact that you left
that movie caring
so deeply about them it's like they're not real they're not real though you know who's real the
the almost 1100 people who died but meanwhile like we have this fictional couple that like
really in that way because he made us care about these two we then care about everyone that had a
very full life that were lost on that ship i also
think that that's this man's point when i did a little bit of research a little bit digging about
james cameron he's a very like the reason why a lot of his movies also even include water is
because he's very obsessed with water and nature and saving the world and he's really into the
global just welfare of our of human life and stuff like that so i think that
is a big dedication to his work is to make us think about that to make us think about lives
lost to make us think about you know people were murdered and killed and you know people are dying
and the ocean is being he wants you to be sad and think about that stuff you know i'm saying it
seems like it because you keep putting it in the movies uh matt and i were talking about this on the podcast we were like you know like these are
kind of like my roadblocks with avatar but i think you've really like bulldozed past them
because there are roadblocks let's be honest a lot of people are sick of him you know a lot of
people are like screw it you know i mean but i'll tell you she long kiki palmer will always be like a cup half full person i love that i always am like you know but
also was it this you know it's a little bit kiki palmer not burning a bridge because if james
cameron calls with a rolling avatar for a song of the skies we want mama to fly the ship okay
because i could be the next sigourney just call me i could be the next Sigourney. Just call me.
I could be the next Sigourney.
Just call me.
I mean, her at 60, I think, is a whole movement.
Like, she's everything.
Do you know what I think?
Oh, yeah. People are forgetting that the reason why Kiri is who she is
is because she cut her own bangs, and it went a certain way.
So Kiri, Sigourney Weaver as a teen cut her own bangs clearly and her
bangs are a flop and she's self-conscious in the movie about her bangs looking crazy and that's why
she feels a certain way that's a subtext that only i'm recognizing in the movie but that avatar
clearly her own bangs she was trying something out in her adolescence the bangs went left and
she feels on the outside of her family because her bangs are fucked. And that is a cautionary tale about why you don't take a scissor to your bangs, girls.
I understand we all think that that might bring our face together, but you got to go to a professional.
She needed to go to wherever in the Na'vi culture they cut bangs professionally.
There are women out there that clearly have cosmetology degrees that could do this in Navi World and Pandora.
But she did not find them.
She went into her own
lair and she cut her own bangs
and it didn't go well. And that's why she was cranky
all movie long. I couldn't believe when Miss Mamas
had that damn seizure from
the damn spirit tree. I said, get that shit
out of here. That's dangerous.
Oh, yes. She really
was having a hard time.
That was a mess.
She plugged in and things did not go good.
I said, oh, shit.
I was...
Can you imagine being on set that day
and watching Sigourney in the motion capture outfit
having a seizure as a teen?
In the water.
Yeah, in the water.
Damn, that's a hell of a movie to shoot.
Honey.
I mean
what's the hardest shoot you've ever done
hardest shoot you've ever done
it'd have to be nope
a lot of running
a lot of running
and just a lot of energy exertion
a lot of intensity too
like ugh
the whole time
yeah
did you do stripping class for Hustlers
I did do a couple
I sure did
okay and then you got to tell J-Lo in person about Selena,
about the impact the movie had.
Oh, yeah, I got to sing it for her.
You had to.
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
Amazing.
I did.
I let her know.
I mean, I know she's heard it time and time and time and time again.
But, guys, it's just true.
That movie is honestly the— It is, you know, it impacted me so deep as a child.
I was hugging the damn TV.
That lady impacted her community.
Oh my gosh, I love Selena.
Selena Quintanillas.
That should have been her first Oscar nomination and Hustler should have been the second.
And we all know it.
Honestly, it felt like that for me.
I felt like if we went back in time and she she won an oscar for selena i would be happy just
like i would be happy if if angela bassett won for tina turner those are two biopics that's just
like come on y'all let's quit fucking around and who else could have done it you know nobody you
know nobody truly nobody truly nobody oh before we move on, the perfect companion piece to Sorry to This Man
is you on Kiki, Michael, and Sarah going,
I know that man.
I love that man.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I know that man.
Because that man, I did know.
And I just could not remember who was that man.
Who was that man?
Who was that man?
Sorry to this man.
Currently.
Sorry to this man. That was a point in your career that i was like
this is interesting now you being a daytime tv host right that must have taken even you
i mean that was then another character honey and i was living for it i was living for my
daytime tv job i was living for waking up and going to the job and being done at noon
the conversations you know what i mean having fun
like it was such it's something that i didn't see coming i was just kind of like well why not why
the hell not you know like i have the time i'm available like i love michael i like sarah like
this is cool like let's ride this out and see what goes down love you the only reason why we stopped
again i guess the universe guides you and i always trust god in the
universe i was just like leave it up you know what i mean and covid happened and they kind of wanted
me to continue on but they changed the show to being more newsy and i'm not more newsy you know
i mean i didn't go to right i'm not a journalist in that way you know what i mean yeah uh more of
a personality and you know conversationalist if anything yeah you're not a journalist like
michael strahan i'm on the floor come on shane rest in peace
so i was like you know i don't think newsy is for me um but they still continue to support me
throughout covet and i thought that was like amazing and awesome you know after covet we all
were just kind of figuring out what we gonna do and i was like it's amazing and awesome you know after COVID we all were just
kind of figuring out what we gonna do and I was like it's COVID and it's tough out here but I
can't do the news y'all yeah I'm obsessed with your catchphrase of I'm on the floor I'm on the
floor yeah because it's like girl what does that even mean for real why is that the peak i'm on the floor that's the peak like what
i'm on the floor title of app i'm on the floor is title of app
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I felt too seen.
Dragged.
I'm N.K. and this is Basket Case.
So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown.
I was crying and I was inconsolable.
It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds.
What is wrong with me?
Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl.
Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies.
On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in.
Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with.
But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will
tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case. Listen to Basket
Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, friends.
I'm Jessica Capshaw.
And this is Camilla Luddington.
And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is.
You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life?
And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together.
And what
does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million I've got you's. Some very urgent I'm
coming overs. Because, I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale
of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are, opening up the friendship circle. To you. Someone's cheating?
We've got you on that. In-laws are in-lying? Let's get into it. Toxic friendship?
Air it out.
We're on your side to help you with your concerns.
Talk about ours.
And every once in a while, bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us.
While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway.
Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts
wait before we move on to i don't think it's funny for real i have to ask you do you know
my friend jennifer lewis i'm on a show on showtime call i love that for you with jennifer lewis and i
do i know your friend jennifer lewis see what do you think i feel the connection between you guys
and all i want is for you guys to between you guys and all i want is for
you guys to do a project together all i want is for us to do a project together tell me why i was
with jennifer lewis on a plane she comes up to me i'm sitting there with my boyfriend and she says
what the fuck is you doing here with my man bitch she said look bitch you're not supposed to show up
here you're not supposed to be trying to outshine me.
It was this fine ass man that you're sitting up here with.
Who do you think you are, girl?
Who do you think you are, little girl?
It was the best thing.
I wish that I could have filmed it for y'all.
The whole damn time, I was like, this is too much to pull my phone out.
But I wanted to pull my phone out so y'all could just hear the life that she was giving me.
Did she know who she was talking to? Keegan Palmer yes that's my girl i know her from we did medea's family reunion
together oh okay oh my god when i was like 12 years old we didn't have any scenes together but
i've always loved you i mean jennifer lewis is somebody that you just always love you know it's
like you know she's just everything always loved her and every time i seen her out always say hi whatever so when she saw me on the plane she was it was just like we hadn't seen each
other in a while she was like little bitch who you think you is coming here with this fine ass
man i ought to get your ass together you should do the jennifer lewis story you should do her a
biopic me and her have to do something together because she is just 100% we just would be just
back and forth and back and forth they would just give too much
life no work would get done
but we should get the set together
it should all be captured
it should all be captured
100% I just had to ask
because I mean she's
a light in my life I'm going to FaceTime her later
actually and tell her that we talked to you
I will.
Okay, so now, Bowen, is it time?
It's time.
It's time for I Don't Think So, Honey.
This is our one-minute segment at the end of our show where we each go on a tirade about culture.
Matt, do you have something?
I have something.
I do have something, and you mentioned planes, and mine is actually plane-related.
I've done a lot of flying recently and everyone on any plane
who's sitting in the window seat
is about to hear it.
Okay, here we go.
This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so many
as time starts now.
I don't think so many people
in the window seat
who don't have their window up
when you're landing on the plane.
Sometimes I'll be on the aisle.
I prefer the aisle
and I don't think so many
of these people sitting
at the window seat
who keep their window down
when we're touching down.
I don't want to jump out of my skin. Like I said, I can't do scary. And what is scarier
than the shock of landing suddenly? Nothing. I want to be able to see outside the plane so I
can see exactly when the wheels touch down. So when I'm jolted up out of my seat, flying through
the skies, I know why it happened. I don't think so, honey. These people who are out of sight,
out of mind, laissez faire about sitting on the window seat and they have it all the way shut and I can't see a goddamn thing I need to know when I'm in the land or else I will be screaming and then I'll tell you what's even more annoying than a baby screaming on a Delta flight me screaming on a Delta flight from shock pain anger disgust betrayal, because you did not put your window up.
Five seconds.
I love you, Delta, but mandate windows up for window seats.
I don't think so, honey.
That's one minute.
I'm totally fine with it if you want it shut for the duration of the plane.
But when they say it's time to get the seat backs up and the tray tables set, you need to have the windows up too.
Be courteous to people who just want to know what that shaking noise is when they land and when it's coming.
Surely you can see there's a window in a different row that you can get some context from.
Of course, Bo.
But we have to work together as a plain community, because if you if one person doesn't do it, the next person doesn't do it.
Yeah, yeah, you're right i just think there's still not an agreement about like people lowering the
shade when you're midair when it's glaring blinding i completely understand all right
but are you with me on this like don't you don't you agree i agree i'm rarely in the window seat
i agree there you go we're all in agreement we are all concurrent on this one i'm
not the one who's usually at the window anyway so i have no control over this oh and sometimes i want
to be like hey can you put the window up because i just want to see when we land but also i don't
have to talk to anybody on the plane yeah you never know what you might get all right well food
for thought this is bowen yang's i don So, Honey, and his time will begin now.
I Don't Think So, Honey, baristas in TV shows,
especially mystery shows such as Wednesday,
where their trope is they go,
ah, that girl, her order, you know, tall frappuccino, blah, blah, blah.
It's like some bullshit like that
where the barista knows everybody's order in the town.
It's a tired-ass trope.
I'm done seeing it in the movies and TV shows
and plays of our time.
The barista usually ends up being the killer
or the conspirator of a killing or something.
It's tired. It's done.
I don't want to see any baristas
as main characters in TV shows anymore.
Make them something else.
Make them a sandwich artist.
Make them a smoothie maker.
I don't want to see barista anymore because guess
what it's too neat of a thing to be like oh that's that's the person who knows everybody's deal in
town no we need to be more creative about the town tropes the citizen who knows everybody's business
we're gonna figure out something new because this motherfucker on wednesday i was like this guy is
a flop and his only redeeming quality is that he's the barista you take that away from him he has nothing and that's one minute and change and yes it's not just
baristas that know the town's business okay what about the postman bring the postman back bring
the postman back bring the milkman back i want the milkman back bring the milkman back yeah i 100%
agree kiki palmer do you have an i don't think so honey you want You want to rip up? Okay, here we go.
This is Kinky Palmer's I Don't Think So Honey or Time Starts Now.
Does every mundane action in our lives
need to be a TikTok aesthetic?
I don't think so, honey.
I'm tired of turning on my Twitter,
Instagram, or TikTok
and seeing people pretending to content create
by putting on gray clothes,
shutting gray blinds,
pulling out their gray calculator, and doing their taxes, calling it adult life.
I don't think so. I cannot stand that we are so incapable of randomness that we have whittled ourselves down to now lifestyle categories.
Soft girl life, you know, a happy girl life, tough girl life um cool guy life fuck boy life i just want
us to have a life and to get offline and trying to make everything seem so cool and unique i don't
want to see you having a day of normalcy and then calling it some type of specific category and
lifestyle motherfucker i don't think so honey i'm sick of it just actually do something and don't
let us be involved when i
don't want to see anybody else cooking a man any meals and calling themselves wife wife life i'm
tired of the life and that's one minute kiki palmer has absolutely destroyed most influencers today
who put on an orange shirt and say hashtag orange shirt and then shirt life. And they get dollars for it.
I'm tired of this.
Like, we saw this man the other day, made himself breakfast, sat down on his computer, played with his dog, and said soft black boy life.
I'm like, so what is a hard black boy's life?
Come on.
Like, this is a normal life, y'all.
We got you.
And also, it ends up making everything.
If that's not an everyday person's life, then what do you think everyday black people are living like?
You know what I mean?
If you don't think, it's just like, what is it that we doing, y'all?
We making everything so extreme.
Soft girl life.
All you did was make breakfast and sit on your couch.
So what's a hard girl's life?
Going to work?
What is the opposite of everything that y'all are saying?
This is so interesting.
I'm good.
If that's a soft girl life, a hard girl life is like going to park at the bank and parking like outside the lines and taking up two spaces.
Hard girl life.
Like, what is like, that's what honestly to me, it's like absolutely ridiculous.
I'm gonna, I got a spoof coming for this.
Oh, there we go.
Yes. Oh my God. I love it. Kiki for this. Oh, there we go. Yes.
Oh my God. I love it. Kiki Palmer and should I say baby this is
Kiki Palmer because that is the podcast
that you all must be listening
to required reading.
This has been so much fun.
No guys, this has been
the most fun. I really love
hanging out with y'all. Hang out
with me. Call me back anytime.
You know it's your girl. Oh my god. You must
return. We love you so much Kiki.
And Bowen you told no lies
when you said she was the greatest of the girls.
The greatest of the greats.
We close every
episode with a song. I got one man.
Go Bow. Okay.
Come on baby play me like a bando.
Wind it back. Wind it back. gobo okay come on baby play me like a bando listen to hands free you better break my kiki palmer here you go come on bye i'm cheryl swoops Bye.
I'm Cheryl Swoops.
And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby.
And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women.
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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story
from being in and out of prison
from the age of 13
to being one of today's biggest artists.
I was a desperate delusional dreamer.
Be a delusional dreamer.
Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
On Thanksgiving Day, 1999,
five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.
And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or stay with his relatives in Miami?
Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.