Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The Book Of Questions" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

In one of the scariest episodes yet, Matt & Bowen plunge into THE BOOK OF QUESTIONS. Are you ready for this jelly (vulnerability)? Get into these topics: Would you be comfortable in the role of gr...im reaper? Will *you* die with regrets? Would you eat a bowl of crickets for 40 thousand dollars? Much to think about. And RPKF's, after this episode? We're not really strangers...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is. I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www.mattroggersofficial.com to see me in a city near you. And now, Los Colch. Drums. Look, Matt! Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Los Culturistas! Ding dong! Los Culturistas Calling!
Starting point is 00:02:05 It must be another episode of Los Culturistas! Not just any other episode, it's our first December episode. You are in your bag in your prime. I was gonna say bag. I was gonna say bag. I was gonna finish our sentence like Bessie's do. Yes. Yeah, it's officially December, huh? Today is Wednesday, December 4th.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That means my tour begins tonight. Come see me in the Fonda if you're out in LA and on the road for the rest of the month. Santa boy live. Oh my God. Listen, the people in Atlanta are very excited. Are they? I was just there for Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:02:55 and everyone's saying, I'm going to Matt's show. And I said, well, yes you are. Come on. And they were very disappointed that you did not go last year, not to put you on blast. I know, I know. You know, it's okay. It's okay. Atlanta, I'll see you this weekend. Don't be upset.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Don't be upset? How was your Atlanta, Atlanta experience? They call it, when you were, when you were there, you were at Atlanta? I'm Atlanta. You know, it was good. It was great. Took the nieces to see Wicked. They loved, you know, put together some Legos.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We did a, they had a chic Lego set where it's Wicked. I got them a Wicked Lego set where it's the dorm room. It's Glinda and Elphaba's dorm room, but it opens up into this diorama of the dorm room, but it closes into, oh girl, I'm not touching that. Matt just pulled out a little pre-roll. Honey. Honey. Can I tell you a little pre-roll. Honey. Honey.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Can I tell you a little story about the diorama? Oh no, no, no, it's over basically. Well, so you basically, you saw an incredible Lego diorama with the girls. This Ellie girl is very quick on the Legos. She put it together in no time, what is it called? No time flat? No time flat time. What is it called? No time flat?
Starting point is 00:04:06 No time flat. Is that what it is? In zero seconds flat. Zero to hero, no time flat. Woo! Woo! Now here's a question that I have for you, because a lot of discourse about whether or not
Starting point is 00:04:21 Wicked is actually for kids. Were they scared of the film? Oh, interesting. The scary parts have to do with Chistory, I would say. Yeah, certainly. And that's the only really scary thing. And then, you know, there's fire, there's bullying, which is always scary, no matter what age you are.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Extremely. Yeah, no, that was really scary. But to speak on Chistory, would you say the film glorifies animal abuse? And would you say that this is your opportunity to speak out against the film for the glorification of animal abuse in the film Wicked? Glorifies it? No, it shines a light on it. No, the star of the movie... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:04:59 ...is an animal abuser, Wicked. Alpha. What do you mean? No, you're believing the wizardards lies and moribals lies. If I come on here and I just, I'm like explicitly outright from now on. This movie is sick. They're taking people like like liberal elite,
Starting point is 00:05:16 Bo and Yang are taking very young children to this movie that glorifies animal abuse. And it stars queer people in lead roles. And it's normalizing. Yeah. And it's... It should never be normal. I'm not normal. Don't normalize me. Define normal. I have a pitch for what this episode could be.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yes, yes, yes. We just did a big culture catch up, right? Yeah. And I thought about this. I was like, what will we even talk about? Nothing has happened. I bought this book, this used book. Used up? And from what I can tell, it came out in the late 80s, early 90s.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Okay. But I'm going to reveal it to you now. Sure. It's called The Book of Questions by Gregory Stock, PhD. And I forget who recommended this. called The Book of Questions by Gregory Stock PhD. And I forget who recommended this. It was on some video of like, what's in my bag and some chic celebrity had this.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And she's like, you know, you just, you're on set or something like rather than be on your phone, you just flip through. This is an old book that you flip through and you just ask each other. Some of these questions are not super, super fun. They're a little too deep, but should we just flip through? Okay, bye.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Can I tell you something? Sometimes it's not the question that needs to super fun. They're a little too deep, but should we just flip through? Can I ask you, can I tell you something? Sometimes it's not the question that needs to be fun. It's about the answer. You know, it's actually Ruloculture number 10. Sometimes it's not about the question. It needs to be fun. It's about the answer. More value on answers over questions.
Starting point is 00:06:39 How about that? Oh yeah. I mean, there are no stupid questions. There are certainly stupid answers. Baby, I'm into this. So you're saying this episode is called the Book of Questions and we should ask each other from it? We should ask each other from it.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And then I think we just have to pick a number from one to 217. Maybe producer Becca can help us with the number selection to randomize it. But should I just read the back cover for everyone to get a sense of what this is about to be? Let us know what we can expect from this episode of Last Call of Teresa. OK. Big Head says, ask yourself, period. OK. Ask your friends. Ask your parents. Ask someone you hardly know. The Book of Questions gives you permission to ask those things that are too bold,
Starting point is 00:07:27 too embarrassing, or just too difficult to ask by yourself. You will find questions of integrity, of sex, of what you would do for money, even things too personal to talk about out loud. This is perfect. This is perfect. One more little paragraph, may I? Yeah, oh please, please.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Whether you use it as a tool for self-discovery or as a provocative way to stimulate conversation, this book constantly challenges attitudes, morals, beliefs, and it challenges you. I'm speechless. I'm ready to embark on this, I'm speechless. Becca, get in the chat. Get in the chat, Becca.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Okay, Becca. We need an active role in this episode. Okay, now she's already given us a number. Okay, what does she say? Number 11. All right. Okay, are you ready? Let's hear from Bowen Yang.
Starting point is 00:08:18 This is the first one. Oh my God. And can we get a sound effect? We won't know what the sound effect is until later, but after Bowen says number 11 and before he reads the question we need some sound effect Yeah, we are not gonna weigh in on what it is. Whatever whatever are Incredible engineers and editors Doug and Mo choose is what we're gonna go with Yeah, Doug and Mo have fun with this or don't just you know Yeah, get it out of the way. This is a big ask. Yeah, we and Mo have fun with this or don't. Just you know, get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:08:45 This is a big ask. Yeah. We're throwing this at you last minute. Yeah. But um. Feel free for this to be something that you just check right off the list. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And if it's no sound, then that's also okay too. If you're slammed, don't worry about it. But we're giving you an opening here. Card plunge. My favorite line from Public Affair by Jessica Simpson. Ready, set, go. Did she sing Cart Blanche in the song? She says Cart Blanche. You need to write a single called Cart Blanche.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Cart Blanche is a really good title for a Christmas song. Yeah. Cart Blanche. Cart Blanche. Like, oh, that's good. Okayarte Blanche. Carte Blanche. Like, oh, that's good. Okay, I'm ruminating on that. You should ruminate, honey.
Starting point is 00:09:29 All right. Full of new ideas. By the way, oh my God, can I just, before we get started on number 11, congratulations to my move in silence sister, Matt Rodders, on the new single Santa Boy. It is fantastic, triple A pop song craft. Well done.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Well, thanks. I didn't know about this. You didn't tell me about this. I was moving in silence about it. I was moving in total silence about it. And I just decided, okay, now's the time to put it out. I wanted to put out one more fun song before we embarked on the Prince of Christmas tour, because I felt we were missing a true dance bop.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I want to see all the RPKF shaking ass to this song. Oh, yeah. By the way, just to set things up, get there on time if you're coming, because I'm not waiting like 10, 15 minutes to go on because it's standing room and it's going to be like a music show. And we don't want to keep people who get there early standing. So if you're coming to the show, get there on time. I'll get you out of there in less than 80 minutes.
Starting point is 00:10:24 How about that? 80, 90 minutes. Wow. That's the perfect Goldilocks zone. Well done. Shout out to Henry Kapursky and Ethan Christopher, who this is his first song he ever co-wrote. We wrote it together. Ethan! Of course, Leland Gabe Lopez fucked it up. They absolutely went so hard on the track. Way too hard.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Way harder than I think I deserve. But I'm so happy. Come on. It is what you deserve. It is what we deserve Leland gave ethan henry matt rogers Bravo bravissimo and a boy streamer. Thank you my absolute Number one, I love you to say nothing of number 11, which is I guess where we're headed Should I read it? Yes. Number 11. You are given the power to kill people
Starting point is 00:11:12 simply by thinking of their deaths and twice repeating the word goodbye. People would die a natural death and no one would suspect you. Are there any situations in which you would use this power? No, I'm not killing anybody. Oh yeah, sure. I'll kill like.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Don't say that. We have to cut that. We'll cut that out. I would kill certain people who abuse power. By the way, this has gone already. So in such a direction I didn't see. The questions will really run the gamut. Would I kill anyone?
Starting point is 00:11:53 You know what? If I saw in a moment someone trying to physically harm someone I deeply cared about, I would do it then, but I would never like premeditate. I would use this power of number 11 as self-defense. And I would just want to say going forward, if it ever does come to light that I've, quote unquote, killed someone, just know it was self-defense. I would never premeditated to kill someone.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm not a killer. I don't identify as a killer. Whenever I even see movies where there is a killer, I never understand them. I don't identify with any of these girls. How could you snuff out human life? It's so crazy. I just don't think it's your responsibility. So you're saying that you would only use it
Starting point is 00:12:38 if you were in a situation where you saw someone harming your friend. Like if I saw someone rushing you. If I saw someone rushing you. I can fend for myself. Don't worry. Bowen, no, you can't. Not if you're back. Yes, I can. First of all, it's don't make this into it. I'm trying to save your fucking life, bitch. So get bet. You know what? Just get him. Go get him.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He doesn't want my help. Go get him. Oh, so you'll kill me You won't use the power so that I will die What's the thing I was to say goodbye you just He lives you were just it didn't happen a Pelican didn't't fly through the window and its beak didn't impale his skull like I thought. Hold on. Hold on. Oh. It's natural causes.
Starting point is 00:13:32 That is... Whatever. I guess it's a natural cause. You just gave 11 Stranger Things down. Millie Bobby could never. You're about to get a nosebleed. I did think when I saw that character, I thought, should be me. Should be me.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I mean, not no. So what about you? Now, now you said, yeah, you don't feel comfortable. You would do it. I would do it for you. You just said you wouldn't snuff out human life. There are absolutely situations where someone's death would be helpful to the greater good. Honestly, yeah, it's like that question that they ask, right?
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like if they gave you a baby and put it in your hands and you said, what's the baby's name? And they said, Adolf. This is Adolf Hitler. And the baby in your arms was Adolf Hitler? WWJD. I mean, that's one of the questions I ask. Jesus, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I don't know. That's a tough one. That's a really tough one. I would use that. One option is you could run away with the baby and put it in a nice atmosphere. You know what I mean? Yeah, but it's, this is about current current day Matt Rogers in the year 2024. If you were given the power to kill people simply by thinking of their deaths
Starting point is 00:14:50 and twice repeating the word goodbye, would you do it? Depends on the day. Probably. No, probably likely no. No one would suspect you. And, uh, you just have to live with you. Because I would live with that's the thing is like my brain works over time and I wouldn't be able to live with the guilt and I don't think neither could you I? Definitely would have a hard time. Yeah, I just think certain deaths
Starting point is 00:15:16 Could be good. I Hear you I hear you there. I think how about this? Mm hmm. If this power ever happens to either of us, let's tell each other. Yes. And if something comes up where it feels like someone should, let's just talk it through. But then it's, it's a one to one vote. Like it's, it's, there needs to be an odd number here. Let's also say back up. Becca needs to weigh in if, if we were to have the power.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And that includes you, Becca. If you were to have the power... Becca, what do you think? Okay, so just to be clear, the power is to kill anybody no one would know. And it would be a natural death. A natural death. Oh, I missed that part. Okay. Like a heart attack. They would just die and no one would know.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Well now I think the whole thing is less fun. That's only by brutal. Only by brutal. I mean like, if we're gonna kill someone, at least let's have fun doing it. Like I want, like honestly, when I was just elevening, whoa that's kind of funny that her name is Eleven and this was question Eleven. Oh my God! I was truly thinking that one,
Starting point is 00:16:27 but when Kevin? This is one of the spookiest episodes yet. And I thought it was December, not October, but it actually is one of the scariest episodes we've ever done so far. Period. First line of the description, in one of the scariest episodes yet.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah. Comma. Matt and Bowen, yeah, go through the book of questions. Unleash the power. So Becca. Okay, ooh, okay, the fire sign in me, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna't sit being the only person who knew that. If that makes sense. What is the emotional, what is the interiority of knowing that you have the power, even if you don't use it, you're like, I have the power. Ooh, that I feel like would weigh on me because like it's just like life or death is in your hands. It's like whatever death note kind of vibe, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah, it's death note. Yeah. I deeply just want my own little positive life You know what I mean? Like I don't I don't even want to think about it That's what I think is the worst part because it is very heavy on you. It's like you carry darkness I really essentially are the grim reaper Yeah, are you comfortable with that if you're comfortable with know the knowledge that you Becca Ramos, are the Grim Reaper? Ugh, I don't know. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I don't know how I sleep at night as the Grim Reaper. Because like, what if you have the wrong thought and then someone just dies, you know? You were just having a bad day. Right. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. And that would happen to me. Like, my best friend's ex thought about it too hard.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Of course, it's over. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Plus friend's ex thought about it too hard. Of course. It's over. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Plus, it's better for those people to live. Better for them to live and see you thrive. I want to know they're miserable in every lifetime. Yes. There's an asterisk at the end of this question and I look to the back.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Okay. And there's an additional follow-up question. And I think we, I think we're all in agreement with this, but I'll read it. If you can imagine yourself killing someone indirectly, could you still see doing so if you had to look into the person's eyes and stab the person to death? Have you ever genuinely wanted to kill someone or wish someone dead?
Starting point is 00:18:34 No. No, that is not an impulse I have. Never. That's, if someone answers yes to number 11 asterisk, that's concerning. The book of questions is crazy. When was this published? I just wanna make sure everybody, over one million in print.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This is like the dark version of We're Not Really Strangers. This was published in 1985. What's We're Not Really Strangers? Oh my God, you guys don't know? No. I am the queen of We're Not Really Strangers. Okay, so it is, I'm like, do I go grab it? It is this card game that is kind of intimate and they have different versions of it now.
Starting point is 00:19:11 They have like a friendship version and a family version, but the whole point is that it is three sections of cards and you go through them one-on-one with somebody and they kind of get more deep as you go through and at the end, because you do like about six to eight cards per round. Like you ask a question and they ask you a question and you answer them. Kind of like this book. And then as you get to the end, you then write a little note about your experience with this person and you give it to them and they read it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It is very intimate, but I love it. That's a lot. That is a lot. I make everyone play it. I'm like, oh. It is very intimate, but I love it. That's a lot. It's with my friends and family. That is a lot. I make everyone play it. I'm like, you want to get close to me? We're playing We're Not Really Strangers right now.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I thought you were going to say that, like, this was, like, a light version of that New York Times questionnaire where, like, you ask these questions and you fall in love with the person, which does not work, by the way. No, it does not work. But this sounds even more intense. Yes, it is pretty intense, especially because they have now all these expansion packs. Like they have like the early dating expansion pack, which I do recommend if you're like on a date three with somebody, bringing that out to be like, are we worth dating any further?
Starting point is 00:20:15 No, no, no. I was just going to say the craziest people in America are doing this on dates. Yes. Not the craziest person's doing the big one on the first date. That is like... Oh no, that's absurd. That's... I would think number 11 about those types of people because literally I'm like...
Starting point is 00:20:32 You're like, I don't know you. We don't need to be having this conversation. No. But they have like a long-term relationship one, like if you've been in a relationship one. Oh, sure. They have like a family one. They have like a deep friendships one, like people you've been friends with, like you
Starting point is 00:20:44 guys for years. Like if you're been friends with, like you guys for years. If you're Snowden with your significant other. Yeah. Perfect game to play. It's cute. Like, oh, Snowden with significant other. You bring out what's it called? We're not really strangers. We're not really strangers. And that's a rule of culture. Number 72, Snowden with your significant other.
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Starting point is 00:22:35 We got the Kid Mero. We got Marie Faustin and we have Jaboukie Young White. Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games possible. The audience was amazing. We shot it all in Brooklyn. You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get nasty.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out. We want to raise awareness and we want this to stop. Wow. Very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn and I'm an investigative journalist. When a group of models from the UK wanted my help, I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a the UK wanted my help. I went on a journey deep into the heart
Starting point is 00:23:25 of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a playboy model. Lingerie, topless. I said, yes, please. Because at the center of this murky world is an alleged predator. You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior. He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 He's everywhere and has been everywhere. It's so much worse and so much more widespread than I had anticipated. Together, we're going to expose him and the rotten industry he works in. It's not just me. We're an army in comparison to him. Listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:24:01 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. -♪ ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYING. -♪ Should we do the next question? Yes, Becket. Now give us another number. Okay. Um, three. Three. She's staying on the low end. Oh, my God. Another? Okay. This is another really intense one.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I mean, I guess this is the book of questions. Do it, do it. That's the book of questions. Number three. If you were to die this evening with no opportunity to communicate with anyone, what would you most regret not having told someone? Why haven't you told them yet? Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:43 This is so crazy. We can't answer this. I mean, I think we have to. We have to. We have to do this. Oh, my brain goes one place. Like. It's parental.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, it's about the parents. Oh, wow. This episode went so hard into the book of questions. I don't even like putting this out there, but like if someone in your immediate family were to go without you Girl, this is so fucking crazy without you being like thank you for you know Pouring everything you had into raising me and giving me a good family a good foundation Like I respect and love you so much
Starting point is 00:25:25 Like you know what I mean like that is something that I think Is so worth it to share with parents, but the thing is I think that there is no more intimate relationship Then if you really think about it like the one between parent and child you know what I mean like that is like Hopefully if all works out yeah, well yes know what I mean? Like that is like. Hopefully if all works out, yeah. Well yes, but I mean like when that relationship exists. Like that is the most intimate thing. And I think it's so intimate that it's like the true base of your emotions is revealed
Starting point is 00:25:57 in that expression of gratitude for being on this planet. You know what I mean? Like that is very intimate. That acknowledgement and that... You know, especially when you're someone who grows up and like anyone, I would imagine that there's strife between parents and children. You know, everyone has those issues and those blocks. But that, for that reason, is probably my answer to this question. Is why haven't you told them yet?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Because it's very hard to, like, I don't know, access that, all that. I know. I always wanna go beyond the moment of telling either of my parents that I love them, which I do all the time. And they get very vulnerable and they kind of cut right to like the heart of something where they're like,
Starting point is 00:26:41 I'm like, whoa, like, all right, like this is not the right time or place for this conversation. And I wish I killed that instinct a little bit more. Of theirs? Of mine to be like, to like, I don't shut it down, but I kind of dismiss it. And I'm like, no, I should, I should let that play, let that breathe. Like it's, there's a reason they're communicating this and yeah, like for all the hardships
Starting point is 00:27:03 that like my, my parents and I have had, like now it's so beautiful and lovely and it's always been in a way. And I just wanna tell them like, none of this would have been possible without you. And they gave me an opportunity, even though they did not, by like literally moving out of China so that I could have been born and moving to the US
Starting point is 00:27:23 and making sure I was okay for the most part, even though they didn't understand what I was doing. Like that is a huge thing for them. And can you imagine moving to a place where you don't speak the language, where you are immediately a different, like you're immediately marked in the society as someone who's different and someone whose assumptions are created about you. Like, I mean, the sacrifice is immense. Yes. They tell me this all the time and it's not to guilt me, but it's like they want me to
Starting point is 00:27:57 internalize that and I have, and it's just, but no amount of thought about it will ever like make that unremarkable. It's so remarkable. Yeah. Also the totality of, so basically, I don't know if you noticed this, I'm sure you do, and I'm sure that's part of what you're getting at, but my father has become so much more emotional as time goes on, I think it's because the estrogen starts popping and men as they get older. And I just think about your father and to understand and really wrap your mind
Starting point is 00:28:32 around what that sacrifice ended up doing in a macro sense, in a cosmic sense. Like he moved to this country, well, countries, you know what I mean? Like made it work so much so that his son is a superstar. And not, but here's the thing, I'm going to say it, you're trying away from it, but wow. If you could go back in time and be like, you might not even understand this later, but your son is going to be able to literally pursue his dream in America and become so brilliant at it that it's inspiring and changes things for other people.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I mean, I just hope that part of what they're experiencing when they are trying to say that to you is that they acknowledge that, how successful they were. That's just something that I think is truly an incredible story. It is an incredible story. They had one outfit per year that my grandma basically sewed her six children pants. Yeah. But she hemmed the pants to like short little pants, right?
Starting point is 00:29:47 And then as they got older, they had one pair of pants their entire childhood into their teenage years. And then every year as they grew, she would take the hem out and then just roll it down. Like they had one outfit for their entire, and they would sleep together in the same room, huddled together in the cold of Inner Mongolia with no light. Like, it's like my grandma had her feet bound.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Two generations ago, my illiterate grandmother was raising six kids with her feet bound. And like that practice had been illegal for like 20 years in China. But then she didn't know about it until someone from the coastal cities like went into the landlocked parts of that country and they were like, take the binding off. Wow. It's crazy. It is crazy. And I think that that is, that idea is so big and there's complicated feelings with people like, even though those sacrifices have been made, it's, there's of course just that, that, cause then you are an American child growing up.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And like, you know what I mean? There is something about, I think I experienced with my with this my father too. I remember one time It came up that I was gonna have to go to work one day in High school to my busboy job and it was raining and I said something like I hope they call me off work Because it would I could use my time better being at home like studying or something or like doing something else and I don't want to go To work is gonna make no money and my dad Lost his mind on him and he was like you go to work and
Starting point is 00:31:33 We had this crazy fight and I did go to work made no money came back early But later he knocked on my door and he was very tearful and he was like, I'm really sorry. I overreacted. I just sometimes wish your grandfather was an influence in your life. And that's when I realized he was like really going through something and thinking about his own father. And it was like, obviously like baggage that was coming out. But there's this idea that like, when you think about your history and your lineage, there is a guilt because people didn't have options
Starting point is 00:32:11 in terms of comfort, in terms of trajectory of their life. Like it was just, you woke up and you did it and you put your head down. And I think generationally, that is difficult for people to wrap their heads around. Like someone who was a baby boomer, like in America. You know what I mean? Like have a different idea of what it means
Starting point is 00:32:32 to like go about things. And I think I was experiencing that in that moment. And it's like from you to your father, to his father, those are three completely different abject realities. So of course there's gonna be like lack of understanding. But for you, it's like from your father to his father, it's like the through line there. And I hope, I'm sure you were impacted by that
Starting point is 00:32:55 overreaction on his end, but it's like, that is like you getting this work ethic that like no one works harder than you. No one works harder than you. No one works harder than you. Well, that's very nice of you to say. I would point to yourself. But I mean, like, I remember it was so unfair at the time that I was being treated this way. I'm sure you know what it's what I'm talking about when it's like,
Starting point is 00:33:16 this is something that my father is just wrong about. I know, you know. But it's like now looking back, I'm like, I do understand it. I have compassion and empathy for it. My dad used to tell me when I was very little, very little. He had one of his famous lines was, I know everything. And if you ever, ever question, you ask me. And I actually believe that.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah. And I don't, I understand what he's trying to do. I don't know if I, I don't know if I would do it. Well, my dad, you know, my dad is my dad. You know what I mean? Like he's, he's very similar to me. Like we both have very performative personalities. We both gravitate towards being the center of attention. And I think that he would say something like that because he doesn't want me to value someone
Starting point is 00:33:59 else's opinion or knowledge in the world over his. He's my father. But then when they reveal themselves to be human beings later, that is when you as a son, there is a moment of like, you almost feel frustrated about it. Not that you were lied to, but that it almost feels like, oh, you didn't know everything, you're a human being just like everyone else. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You second guess everything.
Starting point is 00:34:24 But it does become like a core belief But then it's great to know that your parents are human You would want to say all of this and more to your parents to answer the question I mean, yeah, right like it's hard. Like I remember we've we've had moments where It really does happen more with my dad and like it happens less with my mom But I think he becomes more emotional as he gets older and I think you're recognizing that as well, right? Absolutely. And as we're talking about this, like to go back to going to Atlanta for Thanksgiving,
Starting point is 00:34:55 like I just know for a fact I got so stressed out because the kids, you know, had moments as they should their kids, they had moments where they were distressed and... Well, Chistery was being abused. Chistery was being abused. And there was a whole bunch of stuff going on. You know, every other hour, there was just some kind of mini meltdown. And I realized that that's normal. But for me, I was like, this is more stress than I've ever felt, than I felt in the last two months of work and Wicked Press and like all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I'm like, this is more... Anytime someone's like, I don't know how you do it. I'm like, no, that's easy. Like what's hard for me is watching these beautiful children get stressed out and then my sister and my brother-in-law having to handle it and my mom having to handle it. But I'm like, shout out to the parents.
Starting point is 00:35:38 This is my thing. This is my thing. 100%. I could never do it. And my thing is like, anytime someone asks me what your drag name would be, anytime someone asks me like, what would would be, anytime someone asks me, like, what would your, like, restaurant be called or whatever, I'm like, I don't know the answer to that
Starting point is 00:35:50 because I have too much respect for the thing to know that I would never be in that situation. I will never, I will never. I have such reverence for my parents, for your parents, for any parent who does their best. And drag artists. And drag artists and restaurateur to that who pours their heart and soul into this thing.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like I could never literally I could never. Well, I feel like a couple of our group chats have been active and because it's the holidays and people be texting. So everyone is saying the same thing, which is I'm never having kids. I'm never having kids. So like even the people that wanted kids in our life are suddenly like turned around and be like, whew, like it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's tough. It is tough. Wow. The book of questions. The book of questions is popping off. Okay, Becca, give us another number. One through 217. Yeah, come on, let's get deep.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Not that we haven't. Deep in the numbers you mean. Deep in the numerically. Okay, come on, let's get deep. Not that we haven't. Deep in the numbers, you mean. But I mean, deeper than numerically. Okay, she says 152. 152, okay, woo! Okay, here we go. This is... I like this number.
Starting point is 00:36:53 152. Oh, this is simple. Okay. What do you value most in a relationship? And I guess this is open-ended. I guess this could be romantic. This could be acquaintance, friendship, whatever, in a relationship? And I guess this is open-ended. I guess this could be romantic. This could be acquaintancehip, friendship, whatever, in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna interpret this as romantic, I guess? Yeah. Let's choose to interpret it romantically. What do you value most in a romantic relationship? I'm gonna say something that's kind of like an eye roll, maybe, but comfort. I think comfort is an incredible thing to look for.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And it's so valuable. Everything else falls into place. Yes. I think once you're comfortable, I think that's literally, I mean, that's where vulnerability comes from. That's where understanding comes from. I think that's obvious. What I'm going to say comes from this, which is trust. Which I think is so different than honesty.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's so different than all those things. Trust. Like, it really hurts when someone breaks your trust. Yeah. Totally. I mean, that's like betrayal. I mean, it's... Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:01 You can trust me and then turning around and being untrustworthy? That's true villain behavior. That's evil ass. It is a mutual sort of buy-in, right? In a way, it's like you trust the person and so therefore what dictates your behavior around that person is to make sure that you build that trust with them and that they trust you in return. Yeah. And then when that is violated, it is so painful.
Starting point is 00:38:29 It's not so good. But then in terms of comfort too, it's just like, you know what, I've been like dating a lot and like something I'm, I think I'm trying to find now is like instant comfort. Like it's gonna be some kind of sign. You know, like me too. But that is, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:38:54 If you feel instantly comfortable, that's when your guard is down. That's when you start looking the other way. That's when you start ignoring things. And I also think comfort, at least for me, is also based in a little bit of like sexual attraction. It's like, oh, I'm comfortable here. Like, I think I could like ultimately potentially use my body in a certain way with this person, like, and I think that that maybe I'm just thinking about my own past,
Starting point is 00:39:16 but that is what makes you ignore red flags, both in the other person and yourself. It's just important that I just don't want to get fooled again. Totally. That's trust. I feel like that's trust too. Like I trust you to, I trust you enough that I'm going to use my, to use your words, use my body in a certain way. Okay. No, no, I, my, I don't think the honey later is about a certain thing, but because that, I guess we're kind of saying the same thing. Ultimately, like I want to be able to be really available to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And not be sorry later. Totally. I guess the subtle difference in our answers is I'm thinking of comfort in terms of like internal comfort, like between the two people or whatever. And then outer comfort, which between the two people or whatever, and then outer comfort, which is to say that like, which is the classic thing of like, can this person, like, can I leave this person alone at a party?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Not that that's like the thing that I value the most, it's just like a good sign. It's that that's a sign of comfort. That's a manifestation of comfort to me. Can I, I have this scenario, I'm like, this is so eye roll, but I'm like, can this person hang in the fire island house of like me, you, Josh, Aaron, Patrick, with, you know, like everyone in the, is that what you would want? I also think about this. I
Starting point is 00:40:36 sometimes think about would you want your a cigo to be around all the time? I don't know. I don't know yet. Yeah. I think I've had versions of both. And what would you prefer one? I actually I have no idea because I mean, out of everything I've been in, like, I clearly still don't know what's the best thing for me. That's kind of what I'm still looking for. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But what to use Henry Karpersky is an example, like a cigo who was around a lot. Yeah. And everyone was thrilled about that. Absolutely. And now look at you guys. You're like still you still have a wonderful friendship. But I'll say this and this is not revealing anything. I think because I think he would say this. He wasn't always comfortable with it. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So, you know what I mean? It's like, like, it's a lot to be around a lot of people who are like, you know, whatever comedians and like on all the time. Oh, my God. It's interesting. It's a little bit of like an ask, you know, when, not that I feel like it's an ask to date me, but I get why someone wouldn't want to. Oh, it's a huge, it's a huge asterisk. Yeah. It's a risk. Just so you know, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:50 It's a lot. I don't know, it's just a lot of energy. Yeah. That goes in and goes out. That's what it's about. Yeah. Anyway, okay. I love that question too.
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Starting point is 00:43:14 Hi, I'm David Boren. And I'm his grandson Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. And more importantly, we are here to tell you about a very spectacular live episode we have coming out. It features some of your favorite comedians in the world. David Tellamhoo. We got the Kid Mero.
Starting point is 00:43:37 We got Marie Faustin. And we have Jaboukie Young White. Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games possible. The audience was amazing. We shot it all in Brooklyn. You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get nasty.
Starting point is 00:43:57 So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out, we want to raise awareness, and we want this to stop. Wow. Very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn, and I'm an investigative journalist. When a group of models from the UK wanted my help, I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a playboy my doll. Lingerie, topless. I said yes please. Because at the center of this murky
Starting point is 00:44:35 world is an alleged predator. You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior. He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it. He's everywhere and has been everywhere. It's so much worse and so much more widespread than I had anticipated. Together, we're going to expose him and the rotten industry he works in. It's not just me. We're an army in comparison to him.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go with another question, Becca. Give it. 206. Okay, you're really playing the extremes and the polls. I like it. Okay. Number 206. Would you be willing to eat a bowl of live crickets for $40,000? Yes. A bowl of live crickets for $30,000? I'm chomping down on them, thereby killing them. Yeah. I've had bugs in the past.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Totally fine. Kind of flavorless. It's just a texture thing. And it's a mental thing of like, oh, totally fine, kind of flavorless. It's just a texture thing. And it's a mental thing of like, oh, I'm swallowing a bug. And that's, but once you get past that, it's like, oh, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. I think I might need to see the crickets. The bowl here.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Okay. Let's Google, let's Google a bowl of crickets. Becca says, if no tax, yes, like cash money. Crazy answer. Like, so you would do it for 40,000, but not what? 32,000? Sure. Becca, no. That's silly.
Starting point is 00:46:10 You never know. OK, when I think about the lottery, right? And how people are like broke after they win the lottery or like when you get those cars on Oprah and then you're in debt. Like, I want to see like a trunk of cash and they're like, here you go, babe. No ifs, ands or buts. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Crickets. Here's the cash. Yeah. But if there, ands or buts. Yeah, yeah. Crickets. Here's a catch. Yeah. But if there's work for me after I eat those crickets, there's no catch. Let's just let's just assume there's no catch. I mean, I am going to say, yeah, I think I'm looking at them. It's can you start a bowl of crickets? I put it in the chat. I put it in the chat. Oh, see, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:42 This bowl of crickets is so crazy looking. It's a big all. Yeah, that's what I'm saying is like I would need to see the bowl because suddenly it's like $40,000 seems not enough money for this. Like this is this is probably not only physically difficult, but like digestionally impossible to take all these crickets to the tum. Can I actually modify this question a little bit?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Can you? It's the book of questions. Yes. Yes. Well, look, it was published in 1985. $40,000 in 1985 is the equivalent to $115,000 now. Okay. Now let's look at this cricket ball again. And that's what I'm getting.
Starting point is 00:47:26 No tax, 100K. You know what? 100K? Sure. Can I make an addendum on the question? Yeah. Can I put buffalo sauce on this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 They didn't say you couldn't. Then I'll still do it for 40. I love buffalo sauce. I'll put it on anything. Yeah, put it on anything. I would do barbecue. That's what the difference is. That's what. No, I love Buffalo too.
Starting point is 00:47:50 You know I love Buffalo. Yeah, girl, come on. Anyone who's not like a Buffalo fan, I could not date them then. That might be posted on the top of the list, like things you're looking for, the traits, that other question. Buffalo lover. I need a Buffalo lover for show. Toss me in it.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Toss me in it. All right. Becca, new number. New number. They were clearly running out of ideas. They started so hot at three and 11, and then they were like, would you eat a bowl of crickets? 69, oh my God, this absolute freak for sex.
Starting point is 00:48:21 69, can somebody match Becca's freak? Number 69. If a friend were almost always late, would you resent it or simply allow for it? Can you be counted on to be on time? Okay. I've had conversations with people even after they were like 45 minutes late once.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah. And I'm like, that wasn't okay. I'm generally, I have my moments. Like today I was late. I asked to push our, you know, zoom back five, 10 minutes. Not that late. I mean, you asked for five and then I said 10. And well, that's not late.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I'm not gonna say that I'm always on time. I try to be. Okay. Can I, and let me also throw out there, for me personally, 10 minutes late is not late. It's not like 10 minutes late is not late. Like, I don't I don't really care. You text me and be like, hey, I'm just running 10 behind.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I know you're on your way. Ten minutes in the grand scheme of life. I can sit there. Becca says 30 plus minutes is like agree. That's like if someone were almost always late, that would be an issue. If you're over 30 minutes late all the time, it's definitely an issue because why should I take on the responsibility of navigating my own shit around the fact that you're always late? Because then guess what?
Starting point is 00:49:41 We can't I can't say it out loud. I can't have an honest conversation with you. I can't honestly be like, okay. Well, you said to I'm gonna show up at 230 because you're you ha ha ha Because then you're gonna show up at 3 Right and now we're an hour after when we wanted to hang No, I don't know just understand like that Chronic lateness like that RuPaul says that's being addicted to the feeling of being late. That's an addiction, actually. Whoa. Totally. And I also am like, if you can't be dependable with other people,
Starting point is 00:50:15 then there's something about you that is not dependable to yourself. Yeah. Well, first of all, I think one of the reasons why there aren't people in my life that I have this problem with is because if you have displayed this behavior, I wrote you off already. Unfortunately, yes. Kinda. I mean, like if you're so I will never forget one time years ago, I let Catherine Cohen sit at a diner for 40 minutes waiting for me. I will never forget it. The guilt. I will always feel bad about it, the guilt. And I could tell she was annoyed and she should have been.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But like she also sat with me still and gave me 45 minutes of lunch at the diner that I did not deserve. Because 40 minutes late is crazy and it haunts me the one time. If this was something about me like That was a reliable thing. The only reliable thing about me is that you're unreliable. Ooh, that's not gonna work. That's not gonna work hmm All right. I feel like so far. This is a nice sampling of questions. This has been a roller coaster ride Okay, should we do a few more? Yes Let's do three more. Three more.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Okay. 34. Our freaking age. Oh my God. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Number 34. What was your most enjoyable dream?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Your worst nightmare. I think I have my worst nightmare for sure. And it's really dark and it's really vulnerable that I'm sharing this with everybody, but I'm happy to. But I have a dream from childhood that I still think about, which is crazy. So maybe I'll go there. Go there, whatever you feel comfortable with. Is this the vulnerable one?
Starting point is 00:52:05 No, I mean, they're both kind of, they're both like random and weird. They're dreams. I know my nightmare, but I'm still thinking of my dream. Okay, my dream, I had this when I was like seven. And for some reason it was, I woke up in the most euphoric state and I still think about it. And I don't know why, but it was basically like, it was a dream that turned into a nightmare. I'm in a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
Starting point is 00:52:32 very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, exist back then, so it blew my mind that I was talking to like a class full of girls my age, but just a bunch of cute girls. For some reason, it thrills me that I was talking to all these cute girls who were like, we love you, Bowen. My gay adult ass. I don't know what this means consciously, but like there was something about that dream where I was just in heaven talking to all these people who like adored me.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And it was like attention or something, I don't know. But then the call ended with them being like, oh no, the bully is here. The bully is here. And then I was like, I'll protect you. And then somehow fast forward, I'm on a bed, jumping up and down the bed, fighting, fist fighting the bully while we're both jumping up and down on this bed. And then I woke up from the dream.
Starting point is 00:53:30 But I still think about, this is so random. What age were you when you had this? Seven. Seven. Wow. I still think about, like, oh my god, the thrill of just, like, talking to, like, cute people, like, cute girls. You know who those girls represented?
Starting point is 00:53:45 The Kadeys. Yes. Oh my god. Kadeys, let's do a FaceTime, and you guys tell me who the bully is, and I will fight them. We need to find out who the bully is, because they have to go. It was just like a big kid, and I was like a small scrawny guy.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Hundo. Okay, so that's my most enjoyable dream. Do you have one? So I am going to share this one that I've had, not had, had a dream when I was little. And this one always stuck with me because it really was scary and sort of surreal and twisted. I remember I was dreaming that I was with a bunch of my friends like in some sort of cave, but we were all Muppet babies. So me and my friends were Muppet babies and we were like in this cave, like sort of aware of the fact that there was a monster. And then I remember like coming around a corner and then being in my
Starting point is 00:54:48 childhood kitchen and my mother was making food in the kitchen and I was calling out to her like, mom, I think there's a monster. I couldn't hear me. Like I was like, and I was Muppet baby sized So I was like generic Muppet baby, or were you like I don't really remember but like We that's what we were you were a cute little puppet. I was like a little animated Muppet baby. Oh
Starting point is 00:55:18 And so then I'm in my kitchen. I'm like mom There's a monster coming and she can't hear me she's like, I'm putting something in the oven. The oven is involved. So then the monster comes around the corner and it's, it actually, he was like, you know, that McDonald's character, which is like a little bunch of strings. He's like, yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like grimace, I think. No grimace is purple. The little, um, the fr like Grimace I think no grimace is purple
Starting point is 00:55:48 The little um the frat the fry guys God what was there were the little little pom-poms or McDonald's McDonald's fry guys fry guys Yeah, literally a lot like this that's scary Oh, like orange and very scary. Another Muppet in a way. Yeah. So he comes over to me, picks me up, puts me in the oven and closes the door. And I looked out the oven at my mother and was yelling, Mom, Mom, Mom. And she still couldn't hear me. And I remember like just the the idea that I wasn't heard when I was screaming for help
Starting point is 00:56:24 from this monster and that I was't heard when I was screaming for help from this monster and that I was too small to get anyone's attention, like that stayed with me. Oh my God. And it's one of the very few dreams from my childhood that I remember because it really like shook me. That's a nightmare. That's your worst nightmare. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And then a dream, I don't know anyone where I had sex. Yeah, and then a dream. I don't know anyone where I That I Love any of my dreams and if you know, you know when you have like a full-blown like narrative in it Like sometimes I'll feel like I woke up from a dream and I feel like I started Lord of the Rings Like when you whenever you have a dream, that's like an RPG bitch I mean you can play them in real life Whenever you have a dream that's like an RPG. Bitch. You can play them in real life.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Maybe I should. I think you would dream to me. Oh, I think you would like some girl. Girl, my nightmare is really bad. Wait, you don't want to. It involves me like killing someone. I like this is the death episode in a way. Well, who do you know out of in your dream? This I was at a grocery was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I didn't. And she was like, she was about to kill me. And then I like picked up my cart and swung it and just kept hitting her with my cart. It's so dark.
Starting point is 00:57:50 My worst nightmare is like my own action and the violence that I was capable of in that moment. Very calling back to number 11. Well, yeah, that's what's disturbing to me. But meanwhile, I'm answering number 11 saying, yeah, I would do it. But like, there's what's disturbing to me. But meanwhile, I'm answering number 11 saying, yeah, I would do it. But like, there's something about the power of murder, of killing someone that like breaks your soul.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that is a horrible feeling to have to sit with. I'm sorry that's your worst nightmare. Anyway, it's such an easy answer. I was like, that is the most disturbed I've ever felt. I need to start writing down my dreams more. I think that would be interesting. Like taking a dream journal.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Do you ever do that? Have you ever done it? The times that I have the wherewithal to like grab my phone or whatever and type the dream in. Yeah. I don't know. I got so inspired by Kirsten Dunst. Like her using her dreams as like acting sort of like
Starting point is 00:58:46 guidelines. I try that for a thing and I don't know if it really helped. For what? Wedding? Banquet? No, for, I forget, something. I guess we'll have to see in your upcoming performances which one feels the most dream inspired. Subconsciously informed. Whoop. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:05 All right, let's get another number. I feel really sort of naked in a good way. Like I feel like everyone's really getting to know me. 217. The last one. Oh, this is very interesting. Let's hear it. Number 217.
Starting point is 00:59:22 If you were guaranteed honest responses to any three questions, who would you question and what would you ask? I guess. I, I, okay. Let's get that. No, honestly, like I know who I would ask and I, I think I know what the three questions were, but, and I think I have asked them, but I just don't know if they were honest answers. The thing is, like. This is a deep one, and this is going to take me a while to answer to. Yeah, yeah, this is this one's tough.
Starting point is 00:59:56 There's an interesting reason why this one's last. It's an expansive question. Yeah, they really kind of I don't know. This almost feels like they ate with that. Yeah, they really kind of I don't know this almost like it with that. They ate with that They really they definitely Mmm. Okay Becca saying number 103 number 103 Does the fact that you have never done something before increase or decrease its appeal to you Oh Decrease.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I think decrease. Comfort. Yeah, at this point. Yeah, at this point in my life, this goes back to the comfort of it all. I'm like, I have felt thrills of all kinds. I'm good with something even. I'm good with boring. I was actually just thinking the other day, like,
Starting point is 01:00:45 about I don't think my sister's having kids. I'm not having kids, probably. Like, I was thinking about my parents again, being like, oh, they won't get to be grandparents. And then I thought to myself, well, not everyone gets to have every experience, and that is okay. And also, I don't know, I also related to like skiing.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's like maybe there's a reason I haven't done it yet, because my leg would snap in half. I don't know, it's just, I think that that's like, this is like, this question is scarcity mindset. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't, I'm not self-conscious about experiences. I have plenty. I'm all about an interpersonal thrill.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Like I don't have to have it be this like activity. I love activity. I just don't know if that's like the gradient that I'm thinking about necessarily. I agree. I agree. I mean, I think like I've done things to do them already. Yeah. I mean, there are things that I've done that I want to explore further. Yeah. Because I've already done them and I'm like, I liked that.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Like, I want to go like I want to hike more intentionally and intensely. I want to like learn new languages. I want to like do I just I don't know. I want to like learn new languages. I want to like do I just I don't know. I want to like do stuff that I already know that I enjoy. Yeah. And that there's a wide, expansive horizon for. More to come, you know. Agree. Agree. OK. New question. New.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Let's do one more. One more and then we'll do I don't think so. I'm 20. Oh, my God. I'm so happy you said 22. That's do one more. One more and then we'll do I Don't Think So Honey. Twenty-two. Oh my god. I'm so happy you said twenty-two. That's my lucky number. This is gonna be a great question to end on. Oh okay interesting. Number twenty-two. If you could use, this is kind of similar to the first. Alright. If you could use a voodoo doll to hurt anyone you chose, would you? Oh my god. See, yeah, this is very similar to the first one. It's very similar. 11 and 22, they got lazy.
Starting point is 01:02:51 They got lazy. It's not killing someone. Becca's saying she might do that. No, because you know what? Like, putting someone in pain, this is even worse than the other one, because the other one is like, you'll think of someone and they'll die of a peaceful death, natural causes. This is like wanting to cause someone pain. It makes me even more uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This book is so cursed.
Starting point is 01:03:13 The book of questions. The cursed book. Who wrote this? Gregory Stiles? Gregory Stock says if you could use a voodoo doll to hurt anyone, you chose which. Okay, so your answer is no. I honor that. I don't wanna hurt people. I really don't. And I hate like-
Starting point is 01:03:31 I know, I don't have that kind of ill will. Yeah, no, I don't want anyone to be in any pain. I just- I really don't. Like that's, I don't know. Like when people are like Are people born good or evil? I'm like good Hmm interesting. What if it was?
Starting point is 01:03:56 No, I don't want her in pain. I don't want her to be in really No Hmm, you're not gonna want this in the episode Okay. Yeah, we'll take it out Well, okay Becca's asking what if it was a bad migraine once a month? I don't want people to feel nauseous and in pain because of me. And my friends are going to feel pain no matter what life is suffering. Have you seen Mad Men? But that's I have.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That doesn't mean that you should be the person to explicitly contribute to that physical suffering? You guys are scaring me with your devil's advocacy. I'm not kidding. I've not been a devil's advocate. I've been mostly aligned with you except for the first and the last question. That you would kill and cause pain? No, no, no, no, no. Actually, we are aligned on the first question. Like it's not worth the- Not worth it. Not worth the guilt. The guilt and yeah. But I would have guilt about giving someone a migraine. I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Oh my God. Migraines are awful. They are awful. I know. They are debilitating. I knew a waitress named Crystal. She had to leave work. And her dad had told her, you have to go to work.
Starting point is 01:05:02 She had to leave work and she had to go home and face her father, who no doubt was like, if your grandfather was around, he'd be so disappointed in you. While she clutches her temple, nauseous in pain from a migraine, debilitated, unable to see out of one eye. I wouldn't wish a migraine on my worst enemy, I swear. And trust and believe. A lot of these questions about causing someone pain
Starting point is 01:05:28 on my worst day maybe I get a little edgy in terms of this question but on today no it is December I'm the prince of Christmas I can't be giving people migraines no I gotta give gifts you have you have a title to uphold that would be bad for business Bo. Oh, I know I Have them coal a migraine. I Feel like people have made up their minds about me at this point and I'm like, well I Can I can kind of do whatever I want? This is what makes you Elphaba and me Glinda you realize this Yeah, although I Would say Glenda would align herself with power is, I guess neither of us are doing that.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It would be no. Trust me, like Glinda would never give someone a migraine on purpose. But Elphaba wouldn't give someone a migraine on purpose. What are you trying to say? Yes, she would. No, she wouldn't. The Wizard of Oz. No, no, she wouldn't. And Wizard of Oz. No. No, she wouldn't. And no, let me quote her.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Her father, but he in all of us, no wizard that there is or was is ever going to bring me down. That's protective, bro. She's not saying fuck the wizard. She's saying you don't think in order to protect he would she would like give him a migraine. You forget that. Can I say something?
Starting point is 01:06:45 There is so much revisionist history here. And the Wicked film not only glorifies animal abuse, but also erases the fact that Elphaba, if she loved Fierro so much, why did she set him on fire in the Wizard of Oz movie? There's a huge plot hole, huge plot. The timelines are different. It's silver slippers, not Ruby. It's like, come on, come on, we're not doing this.
Starting point is 01:07:11 No, no, no. In the Wizard of Watch, the Wizard of Oz again. I've seen it and I know what you're referring to. Excuse me. You've spoken a lot and you've got to speak in many lines in the film Wicked. But I didn't get my opportunity. So I want to enter the Wicked universe and say there's something wrong here. There's something really wrong here in Oz. You're anti-wicked because you think it's about it.
Starting point is 01:07:38 It glorifies animal abuse and and I believe it's revisionist about alphabas Physical abuse and this is I believe it's not adding up. Okay, I've had it. We've done the wicked press tour Okay. Now, here's my real feelings. I feel it's not PETA Wicked things is PETA. It's not PETA. It's like how crash thought it was anti-racist and it was racist and it was racist I'm watching this movie and a monkey was in agony. What they had to do to that monkey on set. Yeah, that was, that was not a good day. That little, that gorgeous little deer, that's our, that's our Tandy Newton. Crash.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Now you're all this woman in the That little, that gorgeous little deer, that's our, that's our Tandy Newton. In crash. Now you're all this land in the deep. That movie fucking sucks, God, it's terrible. It's a crazy ass movie. One of the craziest movies ever in American history, and it won best picture at the Academy Awards. Sorry, Ang Lee. Sorry, Awards. Sorry, Ang Lee. Sorry, Ang.
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Starting point is 01:10:20 David, tell them who. We got the Kid Mero. We got Marie Faustin. And we have Jaboukie Young White. David, tell them who. We got the Kid Mero. We got Marie Faustin. And we have Jaboukie Young White. Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games possible. The audience was amazing. We shot it all in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:10:40 You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get nasty. So listen to my mama told me on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out. We want to raise awareness and we want this to stop. Wow. Very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn and I'm an investigative journalist.
Starting point is 01:11:05 When a group of models from the UK wanted my help, I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a playboy model. Lingerie, topless. I said, yes, please. Because at the center of this murky world is an alleged predator.
Starting point is 01:11:24 You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior. He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it. He's everywhere and has been everywhere. It's so much worse and so much more widespread than I had anticipated. Together, we're going to expose him and the rotten industry he works in. It's not just me.
Starting point is 01:11:42 We're an army in comparison to him. Listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now let's move on to I Don't Think So Honey. Yeah. Okay. I have a good one actually. Okay. This is Matt Rogers, I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Well, first of all, I don't think so. Honey is our one minute segment where we take one minute to really get something in culture. Matt Rogers has something. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. Any time starts now. I don't think so, honey. If you're going to send a sexy DM and it's fisting, you have to say that beforehand.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Well, no, I am so on board with you, with people out there. If they want to send me their sexy DMs, like you want to send me a dick pic on DM. Like truly my DMs are open. You want to send a little sneaky ass. You want to send whatever it is. If you're empowered to send me this type of material, I support you. I embrace you. I do think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I don't however, think so, honey, if you're going to send him, this is not a king shame. I swear to God, everyone do whatever it is you're going to do consensually with your partner or partners. I don't care. But if I open my DM and like it is something that is going to sexually shock, disturb and turn me off, I have to know beforehand. That feels like animal abuse.
Starting point is 01:13:11 When I'm an animal, a human is an animal, and you send me just straight up fisting out of nowhere, I don't think so, honey. I feel animally abused. That's one minute. And there's something very nuanced here, which is this is not a King Shaming moment. It is though. No! It is a moment moment of there's no sort of like gut check either way about it.
Starting point is 01:13:30 You have to ask someone if they're okay with certain things. Period. And here's the thing, like the person that sent me this, we have had a like, exchange nudes relationship in the past, but this was a jump forward to the point where it was like, if you're intentless to test me and see what my limits are, truly just ask. I will tell you. Like, very static positive forward person.
Starting point is 01:13:58 When that is on the table, I will talk about it. Let's get into it. That's literally communication. 100%. and whoa gay guys slow it down When this is the deal, I mean I'm so I'm shook about it. There's some good ones out there gay guys. Oh Some of my favorite people. Yeah, absolutely some of my
Starting point is 01:14:23 Favorite people and so when they get on DM what on the I mean, it's a spectrum. Yeah, gay guy is a spectrum. It's actually real culture. Number 30 gay guy is a spectrum. But I have to say, and I kind of now my perspective on this one gay guy has to change a little bit because I feel I was like. Animal abuse through the phone. Mm hmm. It's through the phone. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:46 It's just the worst medium for animal. Be like, Hey, are you into this? That the other, then we can actually get into it so that when you send me this, I'm not on lost coach being like, I don't think so, honey, your actions. Hey, I have a video of me fisting getting fisted. Is it okay if I send this? Correct. You can say no.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I'll be, I would be like, I'm going to respectfully decline. I politely decline. And then you would have still maintained that nude sharing relationship, friendship. Yeah, and can I say? That could have gone into something else. Also, or I go, yes. And then I can't complain when I see it and it upsets me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:21 But like give me an opportunity to have a say in my experience here. You know what I'm saying? Right. Because you can't see what it's going to be when it's one of those DMS that goes away. You know, that is my I don't think so. Honey, it's OK, Bo. I survive. Yeah. I wouldn't give that person a migraine. Yeah. You ready?
Starting point is 01:15:41 Yeah, I feel like this is going to be a rehash of something that I've surely talked about before, but it's there's there's a new sort of resonance to it for some reason. It'll be fresh, new, brand new, different and more. I'm sure I'm sure pertinent. Here we go. This is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey. It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Tick tock or at least my experience of it, because it's not even the algorithm anymore.
Starting point is 01:16:03 It's for me, my experience of TikTok is I log on and 20 of my notifications are of someone who thinks they're being cute, tagging me, saying, oh my God, this person looks just like Bo and Yang. It's an Asian person. It's a little Asian baby dancing around in like a little elephant costume. And trust me, I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:16:23 You guys can stop tagging me in that. No, thank you. It makes me not wanna use the platform, which I guess is not my... They're not mine. It's just like, I'm not missing out on too much. I'm happy to get the detritus on Reels weeks later, but I'm saying like, I guess that's just not gonna go away.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I guess I have to accept this as part of my life, but like, even if I even still get Asian people who make the Joel Kim Booster jokes, which are a joke, I'm like, y'all, what? I second. What's with that? I don't know. Like, it's just a weird thing. And I hate the Internet because of it. I think this is a great reason to leave. I mean, I think that here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Last week, I was in therapy and I was talking about how I for the first, not the first time in a while, but lately I've been feeling really good. And the only times I feel bad are when I logged on. Oh, yeah. What people have to say. And so I would say for you, it's probably not going to change. It's not going to change. Because if they haven't heard you at this point to not do this or whatever, it's like,
Starting point is 01:17:29 and also there's like unlimited people out there that can all, you know what I'm saying? Like these people who like don't see a lot of Asian people in their everyday lives, I'm top of mind to them. And so they see an Asian person on the internet, they go, oh my God, that's Bowen Ying. Bowen Ying should do a sketch, a skit on SNL where he plays this little baby who's dancing. I'm like, listen to yourself. Do you think that could happen?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Do you think I'm over here thinking I'm gonna do that? Like, something about, and I listen, what a huge honor to be in this movie that is being appreciated by so many people. I am receiving an uptick of the most lobotomized people you didn't even think were out there in this world. I love everybody. And this is not related to me wanting to voodoo doll potentially kill anybody if I had the power. but I am over here thinking, wow, like human beings, man, our brains are small.
Starting point is 01:18:33 We are a stupid species. We are dumb, myself included. people that act that way online are like they if they saw you in person they would obviously never say those things which makes me feel like that's not even a reflection of an actual human being that's reflection of like a human beings base in this thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like these people online quote unquote people online like if you think of them as not people but as like online opportunities for people, you know what I mean? Cause like you're not actually talking to a human being online. You're talking to an avatar and an attitude that is put on
Starting point is 01:19:15 and constructed. So it's just like, that makes you want to take the whole thing less seriously to begin with, because it's like these aren't people online. Even if they are operated by a human being, this is not a reflection of reality. It's a distorted extension of like the way their minds work, which is never going to agree with me. I can't control what they think. I'm not out here saying like. I'm I don't think so, honey. I'm not saying like yeah you better not do it
Starting point is 01:19:46 yeah and then they they can't see you as a person either because they have their own thing in their own head yeah I mean social media is bad internet is bad breaking news God bless Australia that little social media ban are they doing that love is that how anyone under six anyone under 16? They don't know how they're gonna look people are like how are they gonna enforce this but I'm just glad it's out there Yeah, I'm glad of the intention. I knew I knew the intention was that I wasn't sure if it was actually being enacted which They get a couple shootings. They go no more guns. Yeah, exactly. I'm like God imagine that imagine that and Imagine an episode that took you to highs and lows like this one.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Wow. Lost Cult really is a podcast that continues to grow and inspire. Hmm. Thank you to Gregory Stock, PhD in what? I don't know. In being a mess? In being a messy hoe? Messy hoe vibes, but also gotta give him thought provoking. Gotta give him thought provoking. I mean, this man was writing the book of questions before we had these little fall in love, we're not really strangers, girls stepped onto the world stage.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Yeah. Oh my God. Well, maybe we'll do another episode of this down the line. Maybe. Hey, look out for another episode, the Book of Questions 2, like Wicked 2. Ha ha ha ha ha. Or Book of Shadows, Blair Witch. And I want to say something. I take back everything I said about Wicked.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Those animals were CGI. I know they just looked incredibly real, but that's just, you know, a testament to the power of filmmaking and what we call movie magic. And can I say I could have never convinced you that they were not real. You had to arrive at that yourself. Something has changed within me. Something is not the same. I love her performance in that moment.
Starting point is 01:21:46 So good. We end every episode with a song. I'm through with playing by the rules of someone else's game. Too late for second guessing. Too late to go back to sleep. It's time to track rust. My instincts. Close my eyes and leap. It's time to try.
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Starting point is 01:22:43 And our music is by Henry Kupursky. Have you heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www.matrogersofficial.com to see me in a city near you. Hi, I'm David Boren. And I am his dear friend Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. We just did a spectacular live show with some of your favorite comedians on the planet. David, tell them who was there. We had the Kid Mero, Marie Faustin, and we had Jaboukie Young White.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games. So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out and we want this to stop. Wow, very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn, an investigative journalist, and this is my journey deep into the adult entertainment industry.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I really wanted to be a player boy, my doll. He was like, I'll take you to the top, I'll make you a star. To expose an alleged predator and the rotten industry he works in. It's honestly so much worse than I had anticipated. We're an army in comparison to him. From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeart Radio app,
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