Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "The F----t Call" (w/ Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider)

Episode Date: March 6, 2019

Matt and Bowen are joined by the creators of The Other Two, Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider! They talk about being a Bethany behind closed doors, Survivor, how listening to Eminem can hurt your feelings, and so much more! Later, they revisit Bowen's greatest childhood offense.---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasLAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dog. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness.

Wow. Lasen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. We got the verve. You put the verve in. I feel that I was the one to give the flavor on that one. That's not to take anything away from you.

You give flavor constantly all the time. Thank you. I don't, I haven't been meeting you halfway with the flavor. But I'm disappointed in myself. Why? So I'm happy that that went well. Me saying the title of our pod because I'm disappointed with myself in other areas of my life. Like what? I have to get out ahead of something.

Get out ahead of what? Do you remember when I said I was going to do a marathon at the end of the year? At Disney World? I was famously and iconically going to travel to Disney World to do a marathon there. And we're reneging on this? We're not doing it. Why not? Because

the Disney World marathon doesn't exist. It's not a thing. Where did you hear about this? Okay. Our friend Eric Erson said we gotta go do the marathon at Disney in November. Apparently there is one but it happened in January. There's a half marathon in Disney. Then do the half. Right.

It's still 13 miles. My dad is so excited that I was going to do something so physical. He was so thrilled that I was going to run the 26.2. You're still going to run 13.1, baby? It's just not the same. Come on, man. Unless I go there and do my own marathon. You're still going to get the picture of you in the

blanket in the aluminum blank. You're right. It's about the photo. It's about the photo. And you've been to Disney World with me. We do do a marathon. We do a marathon. We do a.

Despite what anyone wants. But God, I mean, it doesn't feel like vacation when we're there because you are. I just want to make sure we do everything. So here's the thing. And I'll get into it. I don't think we're with two Disney queens. That's okay. I don't know.

I'll ask them, and it's fine if not. It's fine if not. There's plenty of room to grow in this life. Yes. But I will say, I apologize to anyone that goes to Disney with me, because I'm the kind of person that's like, okay, cool, we got to do this next thing. And I turned around to you, Sudie, and Dave, who we were all with,

and they were like, no, we're adults who don't feel the need to run to the Haunted Mansion. And they were like, no, we're adults who don't feel the need to run to the Haunted Mansion. And I was like, okay, cool, yeah, same. I mean, I think I'm getting better. The beautiful thing about Disney is that you get to age up with it, right? Like, there's this thing that people... Is that the beautiful thing about Disney?

I heard people at work, I've talked about this, people at work, I overheard conversations of people at work being like, before Christmas, someone being like, yeah, you know, I don't know what I'm doing for the holidays. I might just get a room at the Grand Floridian and just do the parks. There are Disney queens at SNL? Yeah. I want to name one.

Well, I won't name one. I'm not surprised to hear that. But it's one that I never expected him to be a Disney queen, but he's a Disney queen. I think sketch comedy and Disney go hand in hand because we have immersive experiences. Yes. We have storytelling, condensed storytelling in both. And speaking of condensed storytelling. Oh my God.

Wow. How about that though? How about that? Can we discuss what we just did before we got here? We went through and last culture is this listeners. Is this the way to say this word? Of. Of?

The French way is of. Of? But then if you want to emulate that in like English phonetics it's like you would just say of and make it a silent R

God the way that you are grabbing your brain right now to get this out there it's buried deep within okay so we went through the of

yes of Argus yes oh baby and I we said that famously well you guys don't know this yet but when you were honored one day at the Kennedy Kennedy Center Honors because you will get our guests. Yes. Oh baby. And I we said that famously well you guys don't know this yet

but when you are honored one day at the Kennedy Center Honors Because you will get a Kennedy Center Honors. I will perform It's a Candle. Christmas Savior.

The Christmas Savior. The Christmas Candle. I will perform it not any of the A-list stars that iconically did it. It will be me. And I will come out as Asian American Doll.

Yes. I will be Asian American Doll. You as Asian American Doll will present me doing it. Yeah. And I'll be like, girls, this is for you. And sing the candle song.

You're going to look up at them. They'll be in the back of me with the rainbow medals. And then President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be like, who the fuck was that? And they'll be like, we met a few times. You met him at Sundance. That'll be it.

That's my favorite thing. That she'll be president. What? No. The Christmas That's my favorite thing. That she'll be president. What? No. The Christmas candle is my favorite thing. And I remember the day it came out,

I texted Anna Dress and I said, who the fuck wrote that? And she said, what do you think? And I said, Kelly Schneid. Parentheses,

Kelly Schneid. Oh, and I love that their title card, their production company card is just parenthetical, just whatever. As a throwback to the... As a throwback to the days. And also, I mean, we moved on from that because now we have the show.

The show. And I truly, I mean, look, at this point, we're like five deep in the other two. This is an event. This is a Lost Country. That's the other two events. I mean, at this point, you're on episode five. I think at this point, Chase has gone to the dance or something. Well, I hope he has. I hope, at this point, you're on episode five. I think at this point, Chase has gone to the dance or something.

Well, I hope he has. I hope there wasn't a big spoiler. Next episode, Chase goes to a dance. If we haven't yet got there yet, ooh, Chase is about to be. Chase is about to go to the dance.

No, no, no. Carrie goes to the dance. But it's Chase. Oh, but it's Chase. Well, they all go to the dance. They all go to the dance. Right. Oh, my God.

I hope this episode is aired. I hope it's aired. We can cut this out if it hasn't. Oh, my God. This is such a good show. There's so much more to come. There's so much more to come. It's one of those shows that starts good and gets better. Come on.

And then that last little frame. Slay. Ooh, baby. I could not even believe the genius. And the whole season builds to that moment is what you don't realize. Can I say? What? Actually, it's comfortable for me to talk to you about them because I have very little

chill. I have waited to have them on. I know. Since the beginning of us doing this. Since the beginning of us doing this. Oh, my God. La Cucaracha. La Cucaracha.

I'm on fire. Let's share. Okay, just really quick shared rundown of credits. College Humor, The Onion. Fucking Saturday Night Live. SNL. One of them did an It Gets Better video for UCB. And I was, what, like a little zygote of a little faggot.

And I watched it. And I was like, this is really important. That was moving. So moving. We are so. And now they are the creators of the new show, The Other Two. We're so excited to have them. And I have to say also yesterday I watched Other People.

Oh my God. And Other People. Wow. Come on. Come on. And I told our guest that I watched it. He's like, you watched it today? I was like, no.

I mean, like casually, like within the last few months. But now you're just coming out and saying that you watched it. It was fully yesterday. It was fully yesterday. Yeah. Love that. He knows. He knows.

We're so excited to have them. We're going to turn to them now. Please give an ear welcome to Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider. See, our intros are always emphatic. Yeah. But that was like, that was above and beyond. I would love to just not talk

and just like watch you guys. Us talk about you? Well, just in general for the rest of the time. Listen, we're not comfortable with that. Do you guys think

you guys will have a Kennedy Center? I think you guys have to answer this for yourself. I just want the gig. That's why I hope they get it. I know. I like that the plan is for both of you guys to steal a Kennedy Center. I think you guys have to answer this for yourself. I just want the gig. That's why I hope they got it. I know. I like that.

The plan is for both of you guys to steal roles from women. Wow. That is your plan. Yes. Yes. They can present us. Sarah's starting hard. I love that.

Let's get into it. Let's get into that. Do we deserve to steal these roles? Likely no. I also love the intro that one of us made an it gets better video that you left one of the guests today made one did you make it it gets better and if you did what would you say

this is your opportunity to say it gets better nine years later oh my god I loved those videos though does it get better it gets better it gets better yeah well let's go though does it get better it gets better it gets better yeah well let's go let's go around does it get better sarah for i for me yeah uh yeah okay great chris yeah yeah matt what do you think it got better because i mean it used to be bad but now it's better now

it's better and the thing is like i will say well did it get better But now it's better. Now it's better. And now it's better. And the thing is, like, I will say. Well, did it get better for you? I want to say it's a wash with my parents. But overall, in other terms, it's been great. What were you going to say? I was going to say, in watching other people yesterday. And now I'm in a pivot to being more serious. If you can believe that.

The pivot is going to be quick. I was just really like what what it moved me so much about it is you really do get across this like kind of experience of like like a like a gay guy kind of coming into his own who's like trying to figure out how to be gay you know what i mean i feel like that's like a like a even with carrie and the other two yeah like that's like a big, there's just so much there with him trying to figure out how to fit into this gay world. And also with the character of David, too, obviously.

Kind of being like, ugh, about Grindr, and ugh, about OkCupid. But you get that that comes from a place of being afraid of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's just really moved me about it. Oh, that's good. That it was just kind of like, I felt, not to be the person who's like, I felt seen of it. Yeah. So that's just like really moved me about it. Like that. It was just kind of like I felt not to be the person who's like I felt seen. But I think a lot of people will feel seen by the show, too.

Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I hope so. I love it so much. The gym. Thank you guys for watching. All right. First of all, because in hours. Thank you.

That's very nice. In hours. And let me tell you something. I don't binge everything no no no some of the shit out there unbingeable name them go go go

I'll drag okay couldn't binge can't barely binge House of Cards and it's made to binge sure I can binge I couldn't even binge you're starting House of Cards now you started season one now cards and it's made to binge. Sure, I can binge. I can even binge. You're starting House of Cards now.

You started season one now. We can say that it got worse. Seasons one and two, bingeable. I think after season three, four, five, who knows, there's like a six. Unbingeable. I couldn't binge. I tried to, but couldn't binge Succession. Because that felt like I needed time

between them or something or I just like kept not going back to it or something but then I binged the last three which I kind of think makes sense

because those three were like the greatest but yeah that was like a pace I have to see Succession I heard you're a fan of Mrs. Maisel

I am I am who is my ally here I don't know both of us okay great but the first season, I think was a little bit harder

to really get through. And then the second season, I think bingeable. It's just like candy to me. And candy is delicious. It's like a bath on TV. Yeah. Wow.

That's actually rule of culture number 14. Marvelous Mrs. Mays. Marvelous Mrs. Mays is like a bath on TV. Do we remember that one? 14? 14. And you know, approximately 8,000 rules have been rule number 14. Yes.

But that's not for us to figure out. Chris, what are your... I was going to ask, like, what have you been binging? But that's such a... What are your obsessions? What have I been binging? What have I been binging? I'm asking Sarah because I don't know.

What have I been binging? You binged Killing Eve I'm asking Sarah because I don't know. What have I been binging? You binged Killing Eve. You forced me to watch Killing Eve. I was very late to the game on that. Yes, but Helena was telling me about this, that Matt would be your ally, Sarah, for Mrs. Maisel, and I would be Chris's ally for Killing Eve. Because you don't like it, Matt?

Because he thinks it's scary. He's nervous that it's going to scare him. I'm saying it's not scary. I'm a very sensitive, anxious person. And so the first episode when she kills that guy with like spoiler alert like there's killing and killing you um she like takes that big stick and like yeah oh yeah that's not really what the show is no funny too so it's not like full scary it's not like a like the fall our friend darcy carden is the same way she does not like scary things and we all went as a group to see Annihilation.

What was the movie that he made before Annihilation? The one with the- Ex Machina? Ex Machina. And she's like, I don't want to see this. It's going to be scary. We were like, it's not going to be scary. Ex Machina was not.

There's no jumps. There's no gore. Annihilation is going to be easy. It is so fucking rough and tough the whole time through. It's disgusting. It's gross. There's scares everywhere. She sat so frightened.

And when the movie was over, I think she was like, that was not for me. And also, I want to say thank you for bringing her up because she did tell me that if she wasn't mentioned

by name on this podcast, she would kill us. She got in at the 10 minute mark. Let me tell you, she's here. She is here. And mentioned at length. So you're welcome, Darce.

I forget Annihilation. I would never put myself through that. Did you guys do Killing Eve, which is a comedy. Of course. It's got, what's her face in it? Yeah, what's her face? Who? Natalie Portman.

Phoebe Waller-Bridge? No, is Phoebe Waller-Bridge? She created it. She produces it. Okay. Oh, you're sorry, I'm killing you. Jodie Comer. Jodie Comer. Who is snubbed at the club. Oh, you're sorry. I'm killing you. Jodie Comer. Jodie Comer.

Who is snubbed at the club. Miss Comer is talented. So good. Miss Comer. And she's like 22. She's like 24. I know. Isn't that furious?

Terrible. I know. I actually did Google her and saw her age and was less into the show. It makes me mad whenever anyone's young. Wait. Did we see Hereditary? Did we see Hereditary? I didn't.

Fuck that. I fucking loved Hereditary. And I hate scary movies. I like a scary movie. See, I hate them, did we see Hereditary? Did we see Hereditary? I didn't. Fuck that. I fucking loved Hereditary. And I hate scary movies. I like a scary movie. See, I hate them, but I love Hereditary. I don't really. But the image...

We're allies. Yeah. Wow. We're just allies and that's gonna be... That's it, cross table. When like, in like an hour

when the apocalypse hits, it's like... It's me and you, babe. Okay, great. I love it. You're gonna be scared to death of the apocalypse. I said,

you're gonna be the first to die. No, no though okay so i going back to disney very quickly please thank you for doing so i the one thing that i will say i am also an ally with you on is the like um the like organization of like this needs to be planned out and timed and like hurry up because we're gonna miss things i don't apply it specifically in my brain to Disney, to a Disney trip. But when you were talking about that, I was like, that is how I would be there. So once the apocalypse hits, we will be very like well organized and trying to get through stuff, you know. I agree.

And then chaos would come in the door and that wouldn't matter. I said, always say like, I'm going to be the person that's like, okay, cool. We have to run, but I have to charge my phone. Let me just like, I'm at 10%. You gotta get the external bat. No, I probably should just walk out and get killed. I think it would be easier.

I don't know. I would surrender my life. I would surrender my life immediately in that scenario. I'd be like, just kill me now. I don't want to happen. You're so good in nature. No, I'm not.

Would you look at him and think good in nature? No, Matt is basing this off. What do you mean good in nature. No, I'm not. I don't know what you're talking about. Would you look at him and think good in nature? No, Matt is basing this off. What do you mean good in nature? Like hiking? Like, no.

So Matt, Matt, Matt tripped on acid upstate. Chris is also good in nature. No, we tripped on acid upstate. We tripped on acid upstate. Don't put drug use all on me.

And we all did this. And I just observed Bowen and I said, you belong in the woods. Okay. I don't know what that means. Well, I'm just saying, I don't know what that means either,

but I trust you. And I guess you, since you guys are the allies. I. I don't know what that means. Well, I'm just saying, I don't know what that means either. But I trust you, and I guess you, since you guys are the allies. I will absolutely take that. To lead the way in the zombie apocalypse. I was a Girl Scout though, so I can tie knots and stuff.

That's helpful. Can you still? Yeah, I can tie a knot. I will say, I have never seen her tie a fucking knot in my life. I'm with her 24 hours a day. She bitch hasn't tied a single fucking knot.

She has not started a fire in front of me. She has not made camp in front of me. Oh, my God. And that's like when you watch them on Survivor, you're like, yeah, I could do this show. Okay, well, let's not talk about Survivor, but that's my favorite show. Is it? The straight roommate who likes Survivor is based on me. Carrie is a little based on me, but mostly the straight roommate is verbatim me.

Wow. Wow. I love it. I love it. Yeah. No, there's, I think there's something, I actually was obsessed with it too in the early days, but you still watch.

It's fine. That was phrased in a way that makes me want to say no. Yes. I didn't watch thoroughly all the way through. I came back to it. I had a renaissance with me. And also Sarah's answer for what she's been binging is Survivor because I've talked about it so much

that the only way she can shut it down is to say, I have seen it. Yes, I know. I know what you're saying. I identify this. Well, you were like, he was like, if you've, I haven't spoken about this for the eight years that we've been friends,

but this season really is the best season that's ever been. Mike White is on it. It's like a lot of people It's really fun. It's great. But it's so dumb because we've been doing interviews for the show and people want to ask us like what TV are you watching? And I'm like the real answer is not what you want which is Survivor season 37.

And Sarah was like I'm going to watch it and I was like I'll come over. Should I watch it again it and I was like I'll come over should I watch it again I would like to see it again so he does well on the show he does well

Mike White I'm not done the season so I don't know how it all ends but we know he's doing well he's doing well wow

okay my sister watches it and she even now knows who Mike White is when did you fall off oh girl I think probably season six of Amazon. Miss Jenna won. Miss Jenna.

Yeah. It was the season. Do you remember this crazy season where they had a challenge where they were all standing on planks in the water? And then they were like, we'll take all of our clothes off for chocolate. Oh, that's not just one season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like, oh, well, this was the first time they had ever done it then. And all the women were like, we will get naked for chocolate, Jeff Probst.

And they did that. I stopped watching Survivor. And then I went on a date with someone who was a contestant on Survivor. And I didn't know it at the time. We just went out on a date. And he was great. And we were making small talk. And I was like, how are you?

And he's like, I've been traveling. And I was like, where have you been? And he said, some country. And I was like and but we were making small talk and i was like how are you and he's like i've been traveling and i was like where have you been and he said to some country and i was like how long were you there for and he was like um like i think like 39 days and every question was like wait were you a survivor and the date turned into me just being like well and then what do you eat all day are you bored how do the cameras get the wide shots and the close-ups do they redo the chat like i just just so rudely stopped the date and was just interviewing him and then went home and binged his whole season that night.

Was he good on the show? Yeah, he made it far. Oh my God. It was Zeke. No, that was years ago. And I've been watching it ever since. Wow. I have to say, season two of Survivor,

that was the shit. And there's nothing that disappoints me more than what happened with Elizabeth. Because Elizabeth Filarski was America's sweetheart. And then she became a monster. And then we find out what's going on with her up here. Yeah. It was always there.

It was always there. It's chilling. What season did Vesepio win? Vesepio won season four of Marquesa. Marquesa. I can't even do this. Whoa. Whoa.

This is good. No, but it's like, I don't know. I can't even do this. Whoa. Whoa, this is good. No, but it's like, I don't know. I have like a- 37. Season 37. I believe Marquesas was season four.

Yeah, but Vesepia won and I was like, what? Wow. And now I love to mention Vesepia Tauri. It's a great name to pull out. It's such a good one.

It's so fun. Where is she now? Don't know. They've done winter seasons, right? Oh. No, have they done all winter seasons? No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

Like it rains, but it's not like in the snow. Do you guys love reality TV in general? I do. Yeah. It was kind of like what we would watch every week coming home from SNL because you're so like buzzing and you've been so mentally engaged for so many hours. And we were like, we need to just sit and watch something different. You know so deeply how much work it takes to make something

that I can't watch another comedy while I'm making a comedy. No way. Because I just can see the work. The production. But then there's something about watching The Real Housewives, for example, that's so fun because if you're in the edit for your show, it's fun to watch the edit of Housewives because there's no continuity.

Nothing has to match. You could be holding a glass and it's down like it's just a fucking free for all yeah it's truly the wild they're doing their own thing it's the wild west yeah there it doesn't feel like the same thing it's not the same thing yeah i love it i'm so happy you guys watched because my i don't think so honey later is housewives related wow oh great oh you're i know what you're gonna do i think you do now It's because I have it for a specific city. It's, it's for a specific city and a specific cast member who I've always been on board with,

but not anymore. Whoa. And I remember, I got a couple of those. Yeah. Oh, tell me if you think this is true or you guys love the house. I do.

I don't watch all of them. I watch New York and I watch Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills. I watch New York, Beverly Hills and Atlanta. Okay. Okay. So I know Atlanta ish. New York is by far the Hills. Old school Beverly Hills. I watched New York, Beverly Hills, and Atlanta. Okay. I know Atlanta-ish. New York is by far the best one.

The best one. Okay, but Beverly Hills at its peak was on par. You're talking about when there was the death. When the man died, it was amazing. I recently went back and rediscovered that, and I was like, this is so amazing. It's the darkest season of television. So now what Sarah's saying is,

now that they're all alive and thriving, I'm not into it. And there's no threat of death. Beverly Hills, no one on that show has a legitimate sense of humor. No. They're so boring. They're so self-serious.

They're not aware. And also, I think that they think they're funny. And in New York, those girls are so fucking funny. I love it. They get it. I saw you post about this, where you were like, that episode of them in Mexico when their shit, when Ramona's shit is on the floor. They're having a blast.

The editors are like, everyone's having fun. Everyone's having fun. My boyfriend, we had the premiere party for our show on Thursday. Yeah. And my boyfriend, I saw him. I just looked over. We were laying in bed together. Oh my God.

Scandaloso. Breaking news on the pod. But I looked over and I could kind of see out of the corner of my eye that he appeared to be on Countess Luanne's Instagram. And I saw him then typing a message.

And I was like, are you DMing Countess Luanne? And he was like, I'm inviting her to the premiere party. He was just like, hey, we love you. Come to the premiere party tonight. It's at this hotel at this time. Obviously, she didn't come.

But he was like, she could. That's honestly not obviously. That feels like that had like a 50-50% chance of working. I bet she had a cabaret or something. I've seen her at so many events. I knew she wouldn't come, but I did think there was a chance she would have responded and been like,

hey, sorry, Bobby, I can't make it. Even though she doesn't know him. On a first name basis? Hey, Bobby, I feel like, you know who would come, who would have gone? Dorinda. Dorinda would have gone, I think.

Oh my God. Dorinda, yeah. She would have been fun to have at the party. She would have been fun to have. We've seen Dorinda act up at parties. But I think she is with it and would go to that kind of thing. Right. But okay, because we're all here and we all watch New York Housewives, can we just talk

about Bethany? Yeah. Because there's nothing. It's just such a somber tone all of a sudden. Let's talk about Bethany. And honestly, my I don't think so honey today was almost people who say they identify as a Bethany. Wow.

And I'll tell you who says this all the time, who I want to throw out of a window every time she says it. Sudie Green. Let's talk about Sudie fucking Green. Let's fucking drag her. Honestly, she says she identifies as a Bethany. I'm like, you are a human being who has empathy for others. You're not Bethany. I feel like I get that up to a couple seasons ago.

And now it's just. She's a full monster. It's getting worse and worse every season. But I also could see it like within the cast. If you had to identify with one, we would all say Bethany. I say Dorinda. That's sad. Because I'm fun until I get drunk and then I might get a little dark.

A little dark? A little dark. You describe her as a little dark? That's what Sudi said to me. She's like, you're Dorinda because of that reason. You said you don't like watching scary movies and that is a horror show. That's a horror anthology.

It's because I'm scared to say who I really am. Who are you really? Ramona. No, you're not a Ramona. I say Sudi is more Sonia than she thinks. You think Sooty's a Sonia? I think when she gets drunk, they get the same look in her eyes. They do. I might be a Sonia too.

You're not. Sonia is the only truly, deeply kind, nice person, I think. I mean, she's the nicest of all of them. I think she has a good heart. She's an idiot. That's separate from being nice fine fine fine she was kind of like cruel on purpose

in the last season too just talking shit well we did interact with Tinsley so we I love watching I just love those girls the housewives because every episode you just like, you're the straight man. Yes.

They're crazy and you are the normal one. Wait, no, you are crazy. She's the straight man. And you can't ever. The permutations of it are constantly shifting. No, no, I'm a Carol. I'm a Carol. That's what I was going to say.

Literally, it was like, who is, but Bowen is Carol Radziwill. Which is for better or for worse, because it kind of means I'm boring. It doesn't mean that at all. I hate when people do that to Carol. She's my favorite. Don't do that to her. She's my favorite too. I'm devastated. I know, I'm really sad. She's gone. She's gone? Callous. I guess you're a

Bethany member, Chris Kelly. There is nothing I would rather do than go to the Catskills with them while they're shooting and just sit behind the scenes on the couch and watch how they film it. Watch how real and fake it is, if they reset themselves, if they're mad. And then when they cut, they're not. I would love to sit for a day and watch it. Just how real it is.

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What's her name? The Emmy-winning actress who... Oh, Lisa Rinna. Will not remember yeah honestly Lisa Rinna no not Lisa Rinna although I am Rinna

the boring blonde one oh that's good I feel like you are Lisa Rinna I'm Rinna cause you know can't help it that's the closest

we've gotten to who's the correct you're Rinna well if we're gonna do Beverly Hills then I'm Rinna Erika Jayne Rising which is what

any gay person would say no no Erika's cancelled she's Erika's cancelled go which is what any gay person would say no no Erika's cancelled she's Erika's cancelled go fuck yourself from the jump she is like

pandered hard capital P not cancelled now but this isn't gonna be up for two months right so she's cancelled by the time this airs by the time this airs

something's cancelled by the time Erika Jayne is next on the list she is okay sorry that's just my take I don't watch Beverly Hills Kyle is who I see when I look in the mirror.

Oh my God. You don't like Kyle. Kyle's a dud. Kyle's so, yeah. Kyle thinks she's Bethany. She thinks she's the Bethany of the season. She thinks she's the funny voice of reason. She's a boring human being.

I know. I really just started being like, these are real people in the world. You kind of like forget. You're kind of like separated or something because they're so. Oh, yeah. This is going to be listened to. This is like a person that can hear this.

We don't care about that. They don't care. Housewives are fine. Yeah. There was like Kenya Moore was on Watch What Happens Live one time and Michael Rapaport was on with her. And I guess like Michael Rapaport is like a huge housewife set who had been like coming for Kenya Moore like for months.

Oh, yeah. And they had like a very contentious, like watch what happens live appearance. But that's not going to happen to you guys. No. And listen, they're fine. Like they're making 50 bucks per cameo video.

Right. That's true. And they're just very wealthy. Though, you know who follows me on Twitter? Cynthia Bailey. Oh, great. We love Cynthia.

We live for Cynthia, but why are you following me? Don't unfollow. Don't ask. Unfollow. Don't. I have nothing good to say. I feel like one day I'm going to be like, Nene sucks. Oh, no.

Because I don't like Nene. And then Cynthia's going to... Cynthia will go off. Look, okay, what do you have to say about Bethany? You brought her up for a reason. Oh, I think that she tries to play the game, and it's just not... I don't think she's doing it well.

You know what I mean? I think that her personal shit is getting so much that she's trying to juggle that real stuff and also play the Housewives game, and I think it looks ugly. The whole Bethany-Carol fight to me was just like... I know, that was such a bummer. Oh, God. No.

But I also think there's times where she's she is the most like feels like a real person with a real brain and I think she's faster quicker smarter meaner than all the other girls and so just when she's mean to them it's just punching down too much. It's just so like Bethany you're right but like they can't

fight with you. Like they are you're in a different like level and it just looks pathetic and season after season I would be like yes Bethany, you're right, but they can't fight with you. You're in a different level, and it just looks pathetic. And season after season, I would be like, yes, Bethany, tell them. And now I'm like, girl, we all know that you're, don't do this. And she's got jokes. Yeah, she's got jokes. Well, it was so crazy because her and Carol were so, so, so close. And then to be like, you don't have a career.

And then have that clearly hit hard and then go after it so many times I was like this is your this is your legit best friend that last reunion I'm like you are I think we're real friends outside the show this is gross to watch you don't have a career was disgusting it made me cringe

her jeans her new jeans her new jean line you're right she's she's done worse also I just want to say yes Bethany has jokes but the stock template Bethany joke which I think she has to fucking retire is what am I in good fellas like she's always like what am I

what am I what am I a mobster what am I like what am I the godfather like it's always a mob movie reference or something. I can't believe no one's done her on Smash Game on Drag Race. Oh, that'd be, yeah. Because I feel like it'd be a good opportunity to just leave. Because she's always leaving.

I gotta go. I'm only here 15 minutes. Gotta go. My apartment is in a very bad place. She's always moving. Always moving. My favorite Bethany is like, is in a very bad place. Like she's always, she's always moving. Always moving. But that's my favorite. My favorite Bethany is like, where is everyone for dinner?

I'm here on time. No one else is here for dinner. That, and I'm like, that's me. That's me. I'm with her. Is this fair to say, Bethany is, for anyone who, who makes it to a supervising writer at SNL, they are automatically a Bethany, which includes you two and Sudie, right? Yeah. I mean, listen,

do you guys identify as Bethanys? And I'm sorry. I don't not relate to aspects of her and I think in previous seasons I would confidently say that but I think she's gone overboard. I think it's like embarrassing to watch her now. I'm more of like a,

like a behind closed doors Bethany or something. She's too like out with her like meanness. I'll close a door and do it just to Chris. You'll close a door and be a Bethany. I get that. If you're going to be a Bethany, you just to Chris you close the door and be a Bethany I get that if you're gonna be a Bethany you gotta close the door we can have a Bethany space

rule of culture rule of culture number 75 if you're gonna be a Bethany you gotta close the door that's so true that's a good one close door

who are you close door who am I it's just you like you and I just hung out at my base well you and I just hung out and had like a long housewives-esque

cinematic conversation it wasn't cinematic but like you know we had just hung out and had like a long housewives-esque cinematic conversation. It wasn't cinematic, but like, you know, I felt like we had like a housewives scene. We did. And who was I reading as to you? You felt a lot like... You were like a Bethany. Oh, God.

You were like giving out a lot of information and being very breathless with all of it. And I was like, this is Bethany. And I felt like a very... I felt like sober of it and i was like this is bethany and i felt like a very i felt like sober dorinda i was like yeah i was like being very my takeaway is that i was trying to so we we've you're not really disney queens okay yeah i'm for disney i'm not i'm not pro or con i am fine with with it. Right. Yes. I was going to ask you if you guys like astrology. No. No.

So we don't believe you. Okay. Can I tell you something? As of late, I've realized that me as a water sign, I get along with a lot of water signs. And you saying that I felt like a Bethany behind closed doors at my base made me think, I wonder what Bethany's astrological sign is. And I bet she's a Taurus or a Scorpio. Okay.

There's no way to know. But I got to tell you also, none of this, none of it's real. What are you? What are you? Pice. Okay.

What are you? Scorpio. And everyone's like, what? And I tell them it's not real. It's not real. Sudi and I sat at dinner in LA and then the people,

these two gays next to us, these like middle-aged gays next to us were having a conversation. They were like, they were like, and also he believes in astrology and it's like, this is what they said.

One of them said, he goes, he believes in astrology. And it's like, use your brain. And Sudi and I were like, yes. Yeah, no, Sudi hates astrology. Sudi and I both hate it. What are your signs? We're both Virgos. Virgos. Three days apart. Whoa. I'm supposed to

marry a Virgo. Take your pick, baby. That's cute. Honestly, in like a total societal breakdown where it's just me and you allies. Oh my God. Fun. That's beautiful. If society collapses, I will choose you.

That's a show. That's a show. I think it is a show. What? No, no, no. Last man on earth. It's Survivor. It's Surviv show. I think it is a show. What? Last Man on Earth. Last Man on Earth. It's Survivor. It's Survivor.

Hundo, hundo, hundo. It's Survivor plus Batch, right? Plus Batch. I'm saying a reality show. Right, right, right. You're right. The romantic aspect and the survival aspect. Exactly.

Oh, yeah. You guys aren't. Do you guys watch Batch? Yeah. But I saw, yeah. I was like really rolling and loving it until that Ari season. He stopped.

I was like, I couldn't care less. This one's a little bit of a dud too. I'm not watching this virgin. Also, but the thing is, the rumor is that he's closeted. And I feel kind of weird talking about it. I also like, I prefer watching it the other way. I prefer when it's a man or a woman picking from a bunch of men. Absolutely. I also like, I prefer watching it the other way. I prefer when it's a man

or a woman picking from a bunch of men. Absolutely. Because it's, I don't know why. I mean, there's more hot people to look at for me. I think that,

and also, I feel very strange watching these women get manipulated by what are obviously male producers. You know what I mean? It just really doesn't smell right to me anymore. And also, I find that I'm rooting for the bachelorette

in a way I could never root for a bachelor. Yeah, that's true. But it's also just so dumb to watch just like eight agro men being like just fighting with each other in the house. It's so stupid. It doesn't go anywhere mentally or emotionally or intellectually. It's just like you guys are bad. The snake eats its own tail.

Yeah, no. Wait, who are we talking to recently that told us or maybe just me that they often have to reshoot the entrances which isn't that just what i didn't know that yeah like coming out of the limo coming out of the limo and coming up and saying they're like dumb little thing that's so which is like why just because like the camera didn't work or they missed it or the mic didn't work but can you imagine doing your dumb little intro meeting someone for the first time again? Yeah.

Especially if you came in like in a carriage. I know. Or like dressed like a Popsicle. Yeah. that's what she is but did you see the one girl who came out with like an Australian accent yeah oh I heard about this this girl came in with an Australian accent and then she didn't have one in real life

well she was great because she was what was brilliant was she comes in with an Australian accent and then he goes oh I like the accent

and then she says she never says I'm Australian she says I was hoping you'd be it's an Australian accent I was hoping you'd be a sucker for accent

she says it in a sucker for accent she says it in a way where if she had to go to court she could say your honor i never legally said that she worked the system she never technically lied she was legally protected which i really admire her her counsel told her when you get out of the limo you gotta say it this way if you say it this way you're fucked they will take you down oh my god my favorite especially i mean this happens in a lot of episodes but in the first one, that night is so fucking long that when they kick them off

and then the girls do their like testimonials being like, I'm sad it didn't work. It's bright, hot noon. It's been dawn and then it's a full new day. It's for the same reason

because they have to start at night, but then they have to like redo entrances and they have to reshoot scenes. It's like a full full you see the work of production and you can just tell they're so tired and drunk and beat down just like oh my god

watching I always was like why are these girls getting so drunk in like three hours that's so but it's literally like a 12 hour shoot like I get that I would have also done that that's why like if there's ever a gay batch I can absolutely not be on because I will be crazy

12 hours in and drunk and tired. Yeah, anyone would be. I think you can be on. I think you can be on and I gotta say, I think you absolutely will be on it.

You think I'll be on it? Yes! Okay, can I say something? They're not gonna find 25 people and not have you on it. Right, right, right. I'll be on it. You're actually 100% right,

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I will absolutely do it all I ask is to be the fan favorite like truly honestly disgusting I'm pretty easy in every other respect just like make sure

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all right so this question is what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? We ask this of every guest on the show. Now, to break this down, it's a defining pop culture early in your life, whether that be a movie, a sort of television show, musical artist, whatever, any sort of thing that made you say, looking back, okay, that was defining.

Let's do Sarah first. I know, I'm trying to think, really. It can be multiple answers too okay my first thought that i had was um a song and it was ace of bases i saw the sign the reason i thought that was because basically i felt i was always like a little behind in school socially like the last person to know what a blowjob was and too afraid to ask and that song everyone knew all of a sudden and i like didn't have mtv in my house because we couldn't afford cable didn't have didn't listen to modern radio because i didn't like it and so

i literally was just like everyone knows this song and i just didn't know it yeah and that was weirdly formative in probably a bad way that I was like, I now have to be up to date or catch up on things. That thing of like because something is popular you have to at least try and force yourself to like it. Yeah, at least try. Which is probably not good. Oh no, it's scary

because a lot of the things that were popular were like Eminem. And then I bought an Eminem album and it was like, what? This is hurting my feelings. This is really hurting me to listen to. Next track. The next track was Stan.

This is hurting my feelings. It's hurting hurting my feelings listen to Eminem can you believe that the word I like I stand for this comes from the song Stan does it actually oh yeah oh yeah but it's also super fan right yeah like like I mean the super fan tea I don't know where the tea comes from I think it's only that song

isn't that sicko yeah that sucks because let me tell you something everyone Stan that he doesn't end well for Stan yeah only that song. Isn't that sicko? Yeah, that sucks. Because let me tell you something, everyone. Stan, he doesn't end well for Stan. Yeah. I don't know if you remember the extremely popular song,

but that thing of like having to opt into the culture, that happened for me with Britney Spears. Like one day came into school and everyone knew who this person was. Yeah.

And I was like, okay, here we go. But there wasn't a lag between. That had a better long-term benefits to you though than Ace of Base. Ace of Base, they didn't stand the test of time. Yeah.

You invested a lot in Ace of Base just emotionally. But Ace of Base, that represents this Sisyphean thing that everyone is like, fuck. That's the first time those two things have been said in a sentence. What is it? It's Sisyphus rolls up a rock on the hill and then it rolls back down. He's going to do it all over again until the rest of time. That's his thing. What is it? It's Sisyphus rolls up a rock on the hill and then it rolls back down.

He's going to do it all over again until the rest of time. That's his thing. This is the thing that we go through now where it's like there's always going to be some fucking thing that we have to get up to speed on. Also, that's an amazing answer because it was just this song that like,

do you remember the song parodies that came out of you remember the song parodies that like were, that like came out of, I saw the sign by just, I saw the sign. Like all throughout the night. Well, so it must've been easier, right?

The song is, yeah, it was the first song parody I ever heard was, um, ever, ever. First song parody was, I saw your mom and she opened up her legs and said,

come on. And then it was me in the fourth grade being like what is this? That hurts my feelings too. Oh my friend saw my mom and my mom did the split like I didn't get what that parody was. Well there you go.

So I'm saying that was formative for me. Honestly that's a good answer. How about you? I wasn't sure what answer is it supposed to be when we were very young well it can be it's just something when you look back

and you're like okay that was like a thing I remember from my youth and that kind of set me on a course first thing I remember being very like

like drippy about like oh my god this was Felicity which is but I would but I had to like write a fine line because I think

I mean I was obviously in high school or junior high high school I think I was in fine line because I think, I mean, I was obviously in high school or junior high, high school. I think I was in second grade. I think I was just born. I was closeted and I had the vague sense that even watching it looked gay. So I would watch it late at night. I would record it and I would pair it with a late night SNL episode or something.

But I would watch it. I mean, it's the dumb thing that everybody says. She went to school in New York. So I wanted to go to NYU because of her. And at the time, I never even heard her say University of New York. Because she didn't go to NYU, right? It was University of New York. But my brain never heard that.

My brain just always heard NYU. But I was telling Sarah this because she also worked at Dean and DeLuca. And then my family. Not me. She didn't. Felicity did. And my family and I went on a trip to New York when I was in like 10th grade. And we went and waited outside the Today Show

because my mom wanted to see. Who's the woman? Katie Couric. Who's the woman? Katie Couric. Oh, Katie Couric. Hey guys, who's the woman? Katie Couric.

My mom wanted to see Katie Couric. So we all waited in that line on TV with signs that were like, we love you, Katie. And there are photos. And I think video proof of everyone excited and me full back to camera staring at the Dean and DeLuca behind them. Because I was like, we love you, Katie. And there are photos and I think video proof of everyone excited and me full back to camera staring at the Dean and DeLuca behind them because I was like, Felicity works there.

I know she doesn't really work there, but God, look at them in there. That's what I'll do. I'll move to New York and I'll work at Dean and DeLuca and go to NYU. And then I did not get into NYU and I did not go. Oh, that's insane. I loved that show. That's JJ. that's jj for you are you

a jj abrams i am i am lost boy i love the man a lost boy i love the man are you are you lost yeah i like i think i went through the exact same experience that everybody else went through on lost right yes yeah yeah emphatic fandom and then wolf did you like did you like try to pretend that it was still good even when it was objectively bad towards the end there yes I think so yeah

yeah I did too I threw like huge finale party with themed treats yeah oh you named some

I don't I can't remember now I did that with sun cakes but I had like an overhang in my kitchen and I had put the numbers up under the things

if you like went and looked under you would have seen them. When I when Seinfeld ended, when I was in high school, because I was obsessed with Seinfeld, I would buy all the magazines that rank all the episodes that give like episode 104 and A minus and episode 201 to B plus. And I made a spreadsheet where I graded all of them. And then I gave each episode my grade. No, a lot of time.

I'm right there. And then when the finale happened, my mom was lot of time. I'm right there with you. I'm so obsessed with it. And then when the finale happened, my mom was like, I'll make you whatever food you want. We'll watch it as a family. You can invite friends over. And I was like, I don't want anyone there.

I don't want you there. I want you guys to make me the meal and set it down for me. And then you guys can watch on the upstairs TV. So I watched it fully alone. The series finale? The series finale Seinfeld. My family had to go upstairs to watch it quietly because I didn't want them in my eyeline.

Wait, I have one more story kind of off of the obsession of that. That I think you'll specifically get. I loved Dawson's Creek. Yeah, sure. And I wanted to tape all the episodes so I could watch them back. And so I would go to Target and buy these like 10 packs of blank VHS tapes.

And there was only one episode allowed per tape. And I would like look at the name of it and write it on the side. But one time I went to tape an episode and I ran out. I had run out of my like specific white tapes from target and I cried and I cried and cried because I had one, one episode was on like a Kodak VHS that we had around the house or something. But my set was incomplete.

No, I did that with, I taped them. Yeah. When things are important to you at that age, they are very important. It was the end of the world

I remember like because you couldn't just like go online and watch something like I was very obsessed with American Idol like very and so I would use my VH

sorry I would use my VH what nothing I'm just the thing my thing came to me and it really upset me

you go you go you go I would VHS tape the live rounds of American Idol. So I would watch Kelly Clarkson's first performance on Motown week. She's saying, you're all I need again and again and again. And then it got taped over. My dad was a football coach, a varsity football coach.

It is nothing like putting your tape in that says Kelly Clarkson and seeing a quarterback throw a ball. I was like, no. For a second, I didn't realize he was taping over it with I thought he was being like, boy, we're taping over these American children. Trick him into watching football.

No, no, no, no. It wasn't like that. Although he did one time come in and I was listening to Green Finch and Linnet Bird from the Sweeney Todd soundtrack and he's like, why are you listening to this bullshit? And I was like, ah, but things are better now. They're much better. Can I tell? Mine is the opposite, basically.

Okay. Where I would tape episodes of Mad TV because it came out at 10 then SNL because it came out at 11.30. And then I was burning through so many tapes and my parents wouldn't buy me new ones that I started to tape over

home videos. What? That's psychotic. That is so insane. You need to go to prison. I'm talking about this in therapy tomorrow. All this guilt is hitting me like a fucking ton of bricks right now. Yeah, you're really there. Oh, things I will never see again.

My brain is racing in like how to let you off the hook. No, there's no way. There's no way. That's a sick, disgusting thing. Do your parents know? I don't think they know. I think someday they're going to be like, wow, we haven't seen this in 27,000 years. Let's put this. Do we have an old VHS?

Let's put it in. Let's see. Oh, Bowen's seventh birthday. And then it's going to be fucking like mango. Stuart and mango. You know what? Terrible. I bet you they'll have a good laugh.

Well, I don't know. Will they? They won't. Oh my God. Oh my God. They won't. But that's what I have to carry. And it also specifically had its mango.

They're going to be like, okay. Yeah. This really is our son. This is our son. Anyway. I loved Mango. I loved Mango. Is that okay to say?

When J-Lo came out, when J-Lo hosted. What if they watch Mango and they don't notice? Yep, that was Bowen at seven. Oh, man. And his little secret break. And I miss you like the desert missed the rain. Is that the song they played?

When J-Lo hosted, the whole sketch was just the two of them hating each other. It was just like, and the thing that I went bonkers for was them singing, was Mango going, Mango. And then J-Lo wanting to out sing Mango went, J-Lo. And they just kept doing that over and over again. And I was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.

Anyway, God, I can't believe I shared that. Wow. Well, I'm happy. I'm happy that you did because it got us to talk about snl oh oh wow not only did he verbally pivot but he physically physically one of the biggest challenges about hosting a podcast where there's three other people is where do you turn where do you turn but okay so did you guys meet at SNL? Yes. Yeah. We knew like of each other ish, but we didn't really know each other.

Yeah. And then we started the same year. Right. The two of us and then Zach Cannon who created Detroiters. We started together. So yeah. Yeah. So was that like when you started there,

did you kind of immediately latch onto each other or did it take a minute? We wrote a sketch together the first week. Oh yeah. No, it was immediate. It felt random. Like, I got put in an office with Nassim and you were in an office

with Abby Elliott and we wrote a character sketch with Nassim and Alec Baldwin was the host that first week. So right away we wrote something together but it felt random.

Like, then there'd be weeks where we didn't. The first year was like a free for all and you're trying to figure out who you're good with and who will even give you the time of day. but it felt random. Like we did, then there'd be weeks where we didn't. The first year was like a free for all. And you're trying to figure out who you're good with and who will even give you the time of day. Cause we also started when like,

uh, we came in when everyone was so much older than us. Like it was Kristen's last year and Bill and Andy Sandberg. So that was like a transition. Yeah. And they were lovely and nice, but it was all people who'd been there together forever. Yeah.

So that first year. Yeah. So I think by the time the end of our first year beginning of our second year started we were writing together all the time when did um the first like because i feel like you guys are iconic for like the girl and yes i did say that the the girl group like music videos so when did when was do it on my toy bed the first one that was the first one? That was the first one. Yeah. That was our third year. Yeah. Yeah.

So good. That one was so fun. It's so good. That was just Chris's idea. But it was the girls wanted to I think Kate and Adie and maybe Matt and Oz

the directors wanted to do a music video for the women. Yeah. They were like why doesn't that happen? All these girls are great. They all can sing.

And then And I had like loved like when Lazy Sunday came out, it was huge for me. I like memorized it. I love, I thought it was so fun and different for the show and just funny. And they clearly were letting them just go off and make something. It looks like they were making it with their own money. Like it truly did.

And I loved that. It felt very like ground, like grassroots. And so I so when we started we both I mean we both gravitated to videos but being able to like do quote unquote

our version whatever of like a music video or a digital short was really fun yeah I'll never forget the first time seeing

like when the Lonely Island kind of got like a budget there like when I did Jizz in My Pants I thought that was the funniest thing I'd ever seen

yeah and I loved Mother Lover yeah Mother Lover's great I love Mother Lover yeah I was watching it with my dad

and I was like slapping my knee like this is so good I truly I feel like you guys like laid the groundwork for I well

basically what I'll say I was trying to like put this in an elegant way I called them iconic and you're saying they laid the groundwork so this is very Kennedy Center honors right now

absolutely this is really bad no I what I've done in the last three weeks and like whatever like nothing's made it

like nothing's gone Bowen writes for the show whatever but nothing's gone but like I I will just open Twin Bed

like Back Home Ballers I'll just open those files, like, Back Home Ballers. I'll just open those files. Just to, like, I save them locally just so it doesn't get compromised on the server. There's a server, whatever. Save them locally. But I open up those files and I just, like, transcribe them. I just retype them. I just have one window open.

I have another. And I just type it out over and over again. And, like, just to, like, I did this with Asian American Doll, too, when I was submitting packets, like, years ago. What is the transcribing? Just literally typing whatever you guys typed just so I get a sense of, like, the structure and the beats and, like, the way you guys, like, where you guys put what. And, like, I don't know. Like, I don't know if it actually helps, but for me it feels like, whatever, it's that thing. Well, that's so nice. like I don't know if it actually helps but for me it feels like whatever it's that thing where I'm sure you're going through it now

but like yeah when you start at SNL even if you've been writing sketch for a very long time it's just different it feels like I'm starting at zero again it feels kind of crazy it's very different it's different in the way that like we write in Microsoft Word which is bonkers like but also just

how things work like it takes a while to figure out how things work on a live sketch how things work in a video sketch um yeah it's it's i have i forgot about that that is like no one really talks about that there is a full archive online on the snl server where you can like go to any episode any episode from any season yeah and just read the script and i would do the same thing with stuff that seth had written i wouldn't like fully transcribe it but i would go back to just be like yeah how did he structure this like how why did this like live joke specifically work

in this sketch that I loved and it was just so helpful to like see it plotted out like that that's yeah it's a great it's a great resource it's such a good like I'm like this is like who knows how long I'll have this like as like access to this and I'm just like, it's pretty cool.

Really? I'm like fucking Belle and Beauty and the Beast. It's crazy. I want to know, like, so you guys are at the show for a few years and then you guys become head writers and obviously kind of like the responsibilities become a little different. At that point when you're head writers, are you kind of tasked with taking on the really the political stuff? How does that work? Sort of. Yeah, yes and no.

I mean, we had been writing. We wrote Hillary with Kate like a year and a half before that. I mean, truly that election season was so long. And so, you know, at SNL, once you write a character, that's your character. So you write it every time. And so then it had kind of a snowball effect. So then we wrote her all throughout the primaries. Then when she would go up against Bernie, because we already wrote Hillary, now we're writing Bernie.

Then she made it to Trump. So then now we're writing. So we kind of kept growing because of that. And I think also because we were head writers, too, we also people would turn to us and assume that we would do a lot of it. Because I remember when we started, Seth was a head writer and that he just, in my mind, a head writer does do that because of him, weirdly. It's so funny to think about now. My first week on the show, my absolute first week, it was maybe at the very, very beginning of the 2012 election. Very beginning, like primaries.

And on Monday pitch, I pitched a debate sketch parody. And it was fine. It's just a pitch and then I was like sweetly like and then I'll write up the debate and I could feel very no one was rude about it everyone was very lovely but the very tense vibe of like we don't need

that from you right now your first week but I instantly was like I want to do politics I've seen them do it and I want to do it right after I mean Palin and all that stuff like that's what I was like watching you're like I like that I do that

I do more of that I have to think like so when you submit to SNL like are you submitting and you're thinking to yourself like because in the submission they encourage you obviously to write a political sketch but did you guys always see yourself as being being the political writers on that show? Is that always something that you liked writing about?

No. I didn't. I loved watching it, but I was never super drawn to it in my writing. Yeah. I mean, I loved SNL for years growing up and i specifically liked the political seasons like i was always very like envious during the palin oh you're like oh can you imagine so i guess i wanted to and i liked it but i didn't presume especially for the first week that i would ever be the one that got to do it right um yeah we wrote a lot of like topical

or like social commentary type sketches that felt like adjacent to. Yeah. Like people thought of us to do political stuff because we were doing stuff close to it. Maybe. I also. A lot of it was Kate too. Yeah. We wrote for Kate and she played Hillary.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Of course. There's also those first couple of years. I weirdly did help on debate sketches, but it was because I. What? Was good.

Excuse me? She's a Bethany behind closed doors. You said you were going to the bathroom. No, she wasn't using the bathroom. She was being a Bethany in there. I'll tell you why, though. It was because I found that I was really good at pitching

in Rick Perry's voice because he was just played as like a big dummy, like a big silly dummy so I didn't I did not write anything that was actually politically yeah any political commentary they were just like what would Rick Perry say and I was like yeah here's a dumb joke so I was like technically working on the debate sketches but nothing that actually mattered well but I don't have to imagine like I was talking to a studio about this. I was like, when you're there,

like, these moments are, they have to, do they feel as big, like, when Hillary comes? What's the biggest moment, like, where you were like, whoa, this is fucking crazy. We had a, I mean, we've talked about this before, because it's very easy at SNL, which you know, to just, it's such

a stressful job, and it moves so fast that it can be very easy to forget that it's like such a cool job that you're just racing and you think someone's mad at you or you're not getting anything on that week or you're like are people looking at me because they know I didn't get anything on and it's very just hard and stressful and so you have to force yourself to like take a deep breath and be like it is insanely cool that we get to be here. This is very cool. And we did that a lot during the election because we knew, like when Hillary came, or, yeah, a lot of stuff specifically that last year.

We would often go out onto the floor to watch something and link arms. Yeah, with Kate. Especially with Kate. We were very much like, this is cool. The three of us get to do this. It's pretty awesome yeah it was even going now like the whole thing is a little it's a little demystified now having been so close

to it but it's like still cool we went last night with our friend ashley who it's been her dream to go to snl and sudi was walking her through the back and being like and here's like uh where the costumes get everything and i was like it. Yeah, it's pretty fucking cool. Well, the thing that like, the thing that put it all into perspective last night was when Sudi was explaining to our friend Ashley,

she was like, well, the budget is crazy and like the cool thing is like this show would never, this kind of show would never get made now with this sort of budget. Definitely.

Absolutely. Like this is the last show of its kind. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because what are you going to just devote three floors of like Rockefeller Center to another show with like that kind of a sketch like whoa whoa whoa yeah what do you got just devote three floors of like Rockefeller Center to

another show with like yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean like even I was just completely complaining I was just just kind of like venting to Matt Lossman I was like I don't know it's this is kind of like a like a like a nothing week for me like I truly was on nothing and so

I've just been sort of twiddling my thumbs but but then it's like, okay. Yeah. And then you started a new week. This other writer, Eli, and I, we're both like, like Eli comes to me and he's like, I was relieved to see that you were on nothing

because I was like, he was like, Bowen's in great standing. I was like, I thought I was relieved that you were on nothing. That's so funny. Yeah. That's exactly it. Yeah, being like, okay,

it's not just me. You can make yourself go crazy. I know we haven't talked about this but you would have like week or weeks in a row where you'd get nothing on where you're like

everyone knows everyone's eyes are on me I'm the fraud and like literally no one is thinking about you they're only thinking about their own stuff and then the next week

you'll get something on and you'll be like I am king of comics and then the week after that you're like oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god

yeah like week to week it's a whole different experience yeah because there would be i would put up sketches because when you're starting you kind of also write by yourself a little bit more just because you're like trying to you sometimes just can't find anyone yeah and yeah i would just put up stuff that would absolutely bomb and i couldn't i was like that as the that's the worst thing that's ever happened. I'm blacklisted. I'm dead. I'm done with this industry. This is a famous table moment. Yeah, exactly. Everyone will remember this.

They're going to talk about this. And I couldn't even like tell you, I couldn't even remotely guess what any of the sketches were now. Yeah. Because people always ask, do you guys have sketches that you wish would have gone or that you're like, that should have gone? And not really. I mean, occasionally there's like one or two if we force ourselves, but in the moment,

everything feels so important. And so like, they're not doing this one. Right, right, right. No, they're not doing that one. And you will not remember this in a day. Absolutely. Yeah. This bitch had a great pitch.

Oh, stop. I won't talk about it, but I'm saying- This one should go. This one should go. But that one should have gone. No, it shouldn't have gone. It shouldn't have gone. I'll tell you after.

I think it's great. Whatever. But the longer you're there, No, it shouldn't have gone. It shouldn't have gone. I'll tell you after. I think it's great. Whatever. But the longer you're there, the longer, the more you learn. It really, you can have the absolute best idea in a vacuum. Sure. And then you're like, oh, but the host doesn't want to. Or the host, they're so, there are 1,000 reasons that can destroy an idea. And the job is learning how to navigate, like, why you shouldn't write your best idea.

You should write your second idea. Because it's actually, like, there's already too many videos. So you've got to do a live sketch, you know. Oh, yeah. What I'm dealing with now is that I've been just writing songs. They've been like, okay, like, the host wants to do a music video. Like, maybe, like, you can write a song. I'm like, okay.

And I will dutifully do it. And I have fucking Christmas candle open. And I'm like, okay, great, great, great. And just to get a sense of structure again. But then they put it at the end of the first half of table where it's this big sort of finale, like act closer moment, quote unquote.

And then like, so my pitch that I did this week, like was fine, was fine. And it was okay. It didn't bomb, but it was just okay. And then to have people come up to me and be like, that was great. I was like it didn't bomb but it was just okay and then to have people come up to me and be like that was great I was like I would just be like I don't believe you like I just I don't know I'm going a little crazy

but it's okay I'm like managing it as best as I can I think that's all part of it I'm so stressed hearing you talk because it is just such a crazy making job it's just how it is but let's talk about okay how has the transition been to like scripted TV narrative, serialized thing?

Because it's, I think you guys, it's really remarkable. I was like, in watching the other two, I was like, this is such a different thing. It feels,

I have to say, it has its own identity. Yes. In a way that's like really cool. Oh, that's nice. And I, that's one of the things I loved about it is,

you know, as the season goes on there are some dark it gets dark yeah and I really but then what

and this episode hasn't aired yet but there's an episode on an airplane and so no I'm not bitch I just said where it took place and that's fine

oh my god we we can attest that there is an airplane there is an airplane moment and so like just taking this darkness and then making like this And that's fine. Oh my God. We can attest that there is an airplane. There is an airplane moment. And so like just taking this darkness and then making it into this like crazy comedic choice,

which I love. It starts funny, then it goes down to dark, then it circles back into funny again. Yeah, it's just great. So, but yeah, how has it been kind of running your own room? And like, what is the differences there? And it been kind of running your own room and like, what's, what is the differences there? Like, and just going through putting your own show together, like.

Yeah. Talk about that. Yeah. How is that? Well, the, we keep saying that we loved it. It was both a blessing and a curse because Chris and I are like very overthinky. We will really like nitpick at something until we die. So at SNL, you just kind of don't have that option it's like you can nitpick until saturday and then it's literally on tv and you can't do

anything else and so we've thrived under that because it kept us in check it kept us from kind of like going insane and so we've had more time we just like have the time now so we spent a lot more time thinking about the show as a whole and making sure those moments felt earned and making sure the characters felt authentic. And what they were going through was like right in every sense of the word that we could figure. And so that was a luxury. But then it would towards the end. We were like, we need to get this on film because we are spinning out. Yeah.

We just need to make this already. But yeah, that was a long time to talk with no joke, but that was earnest. An earnest answer. I was waiting for the joke and there's a dark answer now. Sorry. Was it this thing where

for the other two where it was like, it has to be like, the actors have to specifically word it this way, the way that you guys have written it? Oh. Not always.

Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes a lot of our show is super serialized. And so like we were like, if you don't say this word literally, something in episode 10 doesn't make sense or something. Which is so annoying to the actors. I feel like whenever we get the question,

like was there a lot of improv on set? I want the answer to be yes, to be like a fun, casual vibe. It was really cool. And the actors really were part of the answer to be yes, to be like a fun, casual vibe. Yeah, it was really cool. And the actors really were part of the process. We pressed record and we just like walked off and we just like,

it was a party. But like, and then I feel like to say no, there wasn't a lot of improv makes it seem like, wow. Yeah. But there would be a little bit

or sometimes if we had the luxury, I mean, we shot these episodes in four days. So we just were running all, there was just no time. A lot of times they'd be like, you know, let's roll on one and just, you know, just for, see everyone's marks. And then we would do one and they'd be like, great, time to move on. We're like, wait, so that was the take?

That was it. So you have to move so fast that it was a luxury if we could improvise. Yeah. But yeah, like Sarah said, it's very serialized. So a lot of the jokes needed to. It's different for Comedy Central. You know what I mean? I feel like they don't have a lot of shows like that that are like, I feel like this is like their most heavily serialized show. lot of the jokes needed to it's different for Comedy Central you know what I mean I feel like they don't have a lot of shows like that that are like I feel like this is like their

most heavily serialized show and I love that it has that that's nice I think it's maybe like yeah just a little denser or something in a way where you're like yeah you can see other shows having fun like on set you can see them you know the actors playing and they let a beat they let like a bit go on

but there's a lot of story. Yeah. Yeah, we think we're glad that it's on week to week so that it's on for 10 weeks. Yeah. That's nice to us. But we also do think it's kind of maybe good bingey. Like it's better if you can watch a couple at a time. So it's tricky.

That was one of the. That's interesting. We got to see the show a little early and I said to Sam Schless at Comedy Central, I was like, just for what it's worth, the show is super bingeable. Which I think is such a great thing going forward. People watch TV when things come on, but now as you know, they binge all the time

and I think it's really good in that respect. I can see it performing really well. And then the thing is, years from now, it's out there forever and people will have access to it. Just binge the whole thing and you'll get... It's this thing with The Office now where it's cool with kids again. Totally. It's so weird. It is?

It's the number one that and Friends on Netflix. They're the best shows on Netflix. That's great. Like 11-year-olds finding friends. Which is kind of scary. Which is scary because it doesn't fully hold up. It doesn't super hold up. No, they're panicked about homosexuality on that show. It's scary.

Every joke. No, it's not every joke. That cast. Yeah. The cast. Let them say it. Let them say it. Let them be homophobic.

Let them do it. They look so great together. Imagine putting that cast together and being like, yep, that's it nowadays. I know, we've talked about that. That's it. That do it. They look so great together. Imagine putting that cast together and being like, that's it nowadays. I know, we've talked about that. What's different about them? Well, you have brown hair, blonde, and another brown. So like that's variety. Hello.

Now, speaking of cast. Oh, you really can just transition right into. I do this. I've just been watching. Isn't it? amazing to watch me it's amazing it's actually rule of culture number 100 it's amazing to watch me because we said we don't even need to be on the podcast we just want to be in the room and we emailed them to come on the show and they said can we just be in the room we said no we have to talk to you they said fine um well um so we have had uh well we both had helena and i had drew in here the other day with special guest co-host josh sharp love that and watching

those two watching josh and drew talk to each other about being like like gay in the south oh it was a whole deal i had no idea where drew like came from yes like the swamps of georgia yeah crazy yeah but um so they're so good together and they really feel like like the swamps of Georgia. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. But, um, so they're so good together and they really feel like, like the relationship is so great. I just like, they are. We got so lucky. They're awesome.

They're so great. And also like there's tough stuff in the show. I mean, it gets dramatic. I saw, uh, Drew came to one of my shows like a few months ago while you guys were filming.

I think you guys had just shot the airplane, um, scene. And I was like, how's it going? And he was like, how's it going? And he was like, it's a lot of acting. Yeah. We joke about that too,

because it's dramatic a little bit for everybody, but particularly poor little Drew Tarver. Because Drew will be like, Helena, how much are you crying in your days? Like when they're not shooting together, he's like, are you crying as much as I am? Because I'm crying. Wow.

But there's also laughs. There's laughs. Oh But there's also laughs. There's laughs. Oh, there's lots of laughs. Was Drew doing the menthol stick? Like, how did he cry? No. Okay, wait. Well, I don't really want to spoil it.

Okay. Oh, okay. Yes. You know what I'm talking about. There's an iconic end of one of the episodes. Anyway, so he has to cry. It's incredible. So he has to cry.

And we were like, we're going to try to just shoot this once if you can really cry. And he was like, great, I'm going to do it. And he cried immediately. One take? And then we'm going to do it. And he cried immediately. One take? And then we had to do it again. And he cried immediately again. And we were like, wow, you are such a good actor. And then we had to do it a third time.

And he cried immediately again. And then everyone in the crew was like, I think he cries too easily. Is he okay? It's too close to the surface. It really was like psychologically like he's using this as something as therapy. Wow. It was really impressive. It was very impressive.

That moment is No menthol. It really took my No menthol. No menthol. Took my this moment that we're talking about.

You'll know when you get to it. Takes your breath away. I was like I can't believe it. The show has moments, honey. The show has moments. Also when Bo I watched it first

and then Bo watched it a little bit later but he and this episode has happened before this comes out. So we can say this has moments, honey. The show has moments. Also, when Bo, I watched it first and then Bo watched it a little bit later, but he, and this episode has happened before this comes out. So we can say this, but the moment with Caperlamp. Oh, yes.

She goes, I am gagging for you, faggot. Come on back. Oh my God. It took, I couldn't breathe. I texted Matt. That's so funny.

I taped it on my computer. I recorded it on my computer, sent the video to Matt. I was like, I cannot believe it. That was so good. Was my computer sent the video to Matt I was like I cannot believe that was so good was that line Jordan Firstman I'm gagging for you faggot

and we also had to ask Comedy Central for permission not to bleep faggot because we thought it was going to be like powerful in a very blunt hard way to hear a woman say that word at him like in an office yeah

just that she how dare she thinks she can casually say that we're like if you bleep it it kind of you know no it won't work and there were some emails and there and we would got an email back being like guys congratulations you can say bye guys yeah but there was

a period where we were going to maybe have to get on a call about it and so it was being seriously referenced in emails as the faggot call because they're like we're going to do this faggot call and just like we'll have this conversation i also think once i get called i also think once they mentioned that it might need to be a call they thought that would be like maybe a good way for us to be like okay well we're not going to get on a call about this never mind it's fine but we were like we're ready no I mean that moment is that's a take

that took my breath away I can't believe this it's an important moment for the culture right well I mean that's a real thing yes it's absolutely a real thing and Caperland is so funny oh god I think could win an Oscar. I was going to say yes for this.

They're going to change the rules. Because the Oscars famously don't matter anyway if Green Book wins. Wow. This is going to play after Green Book has won, right? It's going to play after Green Book or Bohemian Rhapsody has taken home the gold. Oh, my God. It's sick. They're going to tie.

The world we live in is incredibly sick. And that's actually a rule of culture. Rule number 22. The world we live in is incredibly sick. Yeah. Usually at the one hour mark, you guys say the world is sick. The world is sick.

Well, it takes about an hour to realize that. Yeah. Yeah. This is just a Sisyphean exercise in getting to that. Bitch, you and this a sisyphean exercise in getting to that sisyphean it's the theme it's a motif you know i said a big word the other day what'd you say pernicious okay you know where i learned that what camille grammar whoa where what pernicious one time on Beverly Hills and I was like, hmm. Pernicious. Oh my God.

It means to act in an evil manner. Yes. Yes. You knew that though. Being smart. I thought I did. But you started the episode with oeuvre. So. Yeah.

That's so true. And that was important. Yeah. That was really big for me. I think, I think this is the year where you really just broaden your scope with words. Which is, I can't wait. This is the year of words. This is my year of words.

And I'm going to, I'm going to the cultural Mecca that is Los Angeles of words. This is my year of words. And I'm going to the cultural mecca that is Los Angeles on Thursday, so I'll be there for six weeks and I'm going to get real smart. Yes. Wait, can we talk about the writer's room? The writer's room is fantastic for this show. Oh, yeah. Okay, so it was Joel Kimbooster, Jordan, Cole, Escola,

and Gilly. Gilly Nissen. Do you know her? Yes. I don't think I know she's at UCBLA she's great she's so funny I don't think we've met but I do know and then Paul

and Yellow were there for a little bit but then they had to go to Broad City so the best so that's a fun ass room it was a fun ass room I caught some

Instagram stories of y'all playing the t-shirt game and like fun little jackpot stuff yes are we fans are you guys fans of the t-shirt game?

Yeah. Yes. That was Joel, right? That was Joel. He was like, we have to do this. And we were all like, no. We were not into it. And we were like, we'll just do this because it's building team. And got so into it. Had laughed so

hard. It was really one of the most fun days. So thank you, Joel. It's the funnest thing you can do. It's the funnest thing in the world. The most fun thing you can do. Yeah, then we all bought t-shirts. Yeah, they bought, well, I got a t-shirt at some point. Wait, you guys bought the t-shirt? You can buy them? Yes! You knew this. It's the smartest part of the game that you can then be like,

click to purchase. So smart. What was the one that we did with the nails and it just said one word? It was a hand with red fingernails. And it said one word. It said two words. It said, I'm virgin. I'm virgin.

Just a finger with red fingernails and it said, I'm virgin. We were all screaming. We were like, we need that. Stupid. So stupid. I'm virgin. Okay. But was this what you were trying to ask earlier in terms of running a writer's room

unbound by some other, I mean, you're sort of answering to the network, sure, but like different vibe overall, like where you're just spending so much time together, like trying to break the episodes, like different set of tools, right? Yeah, because, well, at SNL, it's like kind of, you don't really have the experience

of like breaking stuff together as a group. So that was great. That was so fun. and so much of it was us just being like what would you here's an idea for a plot like how would you truly react to this in your real life and getting stories from our writers that we our biggest thing in the writers room wasn't just like what are funny things that could happen but it was like yeah if you go to this like premiere or your brother writes a song about you specifically like physically dramatically pathetically what would you feel and do right so that we've said this before but like all the episodes could technically the log lines could be dramas yeah and then we added comedy to them but um oh that's great it

was to call out sorry i've been coughing and sarah just handed me her water bottle and i took water from it and it made a dolphin noise? Yeah, well, you're not supposed to tip it back. What? You sip it. Oh my God, I didn't see that. It was a straw. I would have done that too.

It did sound like a dolphin. It was a dolphin. And I was barreling straight through. I was like, I'm going to keep talking. And you were like, it's comedy in the room. I'm a professional. Yes, and you just missed this extremely poignant thing that Chris was saying. I'm so sorry.

The episodes were basically log on. I came here. It was cold. I'm talking about my show, this little pantomime that's going on. I need my ally to be hydrated for the apocalypse. So I'm sorry. I could not sit idly by and let him die. I need to be able to live so that we can die immediately.

I was watching CNN and I forget who it was, and she was coughing so hard yesterday on the news, but she was coughing for like 10 minutes and she kept being like, and President Trump. I'm so sorry. But no one, she was interviewing guests and no one was like, I'm going to talk now for two minutes so they can cut off

of you and allow you to do whatever. She just coughed for 10 minutes. It was so funny. You can't even watch the news anymore because you're thinking about production. Right? You're producing the fucking news. What are you talking about? Like I'm saying you can't even watch the news without being like

they should take it off. They should cut away. They should cut away. That's just my brain. That's just your brain. What news do you guys watch? How do you absorb? I only watch CNN. I watch MSNBC. I's just your brain. What news do you guys watch? How do you absorb? I only watch CNN. I watch MSNBC. I don't like CNN.

And I prefer it. I watch The View. Oh, I see. I see. I do. I tolerate Meghan McCain. You tolerate? No.

She is... No. She's done. Canceled. It's been hard to watch her. She's canceled. The whole, like, I'm the daughter of John McCain thing

I could not abide. She's always done that. No but like someone did a meme of like a screen grab of Meghan McCain saying I'm the daughter of John McCain I'm not a racist. Oh yeah she slammed the table the other day with her hand. Yeah it was crazy. I'm John McCain's

daughter I don't just allow racism. And we're like okay shut up. And then it was just a meme where it was Erin I'm John McCain's daughter I don't just allow racism and we're like okay shut up and then and then it was just a meme where and then it was Aaron Brockovich and then the

just like a altered subtitle that's all you got lady being John McCain's daughter in fucking ugly shoes perfect great meme

um the news why do we go into this pivot about the news I wanted to talk about the show I wanted to talk about the other two the other two the writers room the writer's room we were the writer's room

and why i just want to talk about other cast members oh yeah you got ken marino yes yeah genius babe since i was a little child and can i say his best performance in the rock and roller coaster pre-show at disney world hollywood studios absolutely whoa he's in there with iliana douglas and the cast of Aerosmith. The cast of Aerosmith. And he sits there playing his buttons and like being

like a wordless role. But yeah, he was in that. Ken Marino's in that. And every time I go on that ride, which is a lot, I'm like, I see him and I'm like, that's fucking Ken Marino.

Wow. Yeah. He's the best. But also, we have to talk about Miss Molly. Miss Molly. Yeah, Miss Molly Shannon. I mean,

just to like rediscover, which I feel like you've been a big part of, this kind of like rediscovery of her as this like, she's got some incredible dramatic moments in your show. And also her performance in Other People. I mean, out of control.

Can you talk about working with her? Like, what's that? She's so good. She's also, I don't know, the best way I can put it is you just don't really see her acting, or at least I don't.

You know, when she goes into a dramatic moment you never feel her doing her like Oscar winning moment you don't feel her you know how sometimes even the best actors that we all love

we stand by we would die for them you can feel like okay you know the camera's on you you're doing your your moment right now she just feels like

a regular person just talking to the people that she's on screen with she's very she's so funny the airplane episode that we can't go into too much is the first thing we shot really? just talking to the people that she's on screen with. She's very dropped in. She's so funny. The airplane episode that we can't go into too much is the first thing we shot. Really?

That's what Drew said. I couldn't believe this. Right away and just, she's a real, she's insane. No, she's like, she's fully Emmy worthy in that scene. And like, wow, we're starting Emmy buzz. We're starting Emmy buzz. That's why you guys are here. This is the first stop on your Emmy campaign.

You joined Megan Amram, who also started her Emmy campaign here. She did. Famously earned a nomination. Two. Two big ones. Wow. And we're still upset she lost. Oh, my God.

Truly insane. She was telling me what she has in mind for season two, and it's incredible. That's why. Anyway. I can't wait for that. That's the scoop. But no, I can't believe Molly. And like, just like her and other people too.

It's just such a beautiful performance. Yeah, she's lovely. And so that had to be a lot to like cast the person as ostensibly going to play your mother. Yeah. And did you meet with a lot of people or did you kind of like just know? Yeah, a couple.

But it was also the tiniest of indie movies and I hadn't really done anything before. So it was just, I didn't presume that anybody would want to do this or no one would know who I am. So we sent her the script. I think I had described it as like a Molly Shannon type. I think someone like Molly Shannon would be great in this role as an example of think about her, but don't actually ask her cause she won't do it. And then we, she finally got the script and she called me right away and said, I would do it. Like it was very quick. It was very surprising.

And then, yeah, I hung out with her for a couple of months before we shot. Like she would invite me over to her house to meet her family and we would have lunch. And whenever she had a dinner party at her house, she would invite me. It was very sweet. I would like call my sisters.

Cause she was playing a part, but I also wanted the person playing my mother to be nice. Not to be like a great actor, then when you call cut, they're just like an asshole. Right. So that was nice. Yeah. So she seems tolerable overall.

She is tolerable. Yeah. She's just a sweet, just like the funniest, nicest person. And also, I mean, iconic SNL cast member for all time. Of course. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Are you guys always like big SNL fans?

I would go in waves and kind of like tune in and you know i was like big on the on the tina amy maya kristen years i was i was pretty full full bore yeah right right yeah i was psychotic about it yeah he was from a very young age yeah when i was um my first my first year at NYU, I would go every week to the standby line. Uh-huh. And I remember I, the first one I ever went to was James Franco and Kings of Leon.

And then I went the next week to Anne Hathaway and the Killers. And it was the first time that Kristen Wiig did the Lawrence Welk show. Oh, okay. Oh, wow.

It was just like, unbelievable. I was like, okay, I'm in the right city. Yeah. Yeah. I won tickets in college, weirdly,

through the raffle, or my friend did, and I made her take me. And we saw the Ashley Simpson fuck-up episode. Weirdly, I was in the audience for that. It was very cool.

Wow. That's crazy. That is beautiful. That's gorgeous. That's gorgeous. Weirdly, I also won the lottery one time, and it was Jennifer Lopez,

host and musical guest. Wow. You really did win the lottery. Way post-Mango. Way post-Mango. We got to see her sing live. Two ballads. Love that.

I would send out during the raffle season of August, I would send out emails to everyone, all my friends and family being like, please do the raffle. And if you get it, take me. And then if I win it, I will take one of you. So like it didn't, it wasn't a fair thing, but I did it twice. There you go. Yeah.

Wow. I never get tired of going, even though it's always like, ah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. We have to shout out Miss Wanda. Oh my God. Oh, come on.

And Mr. Case. Oh my, we were talking about Case with Helena. His first audition was for this film yeah yes he's the best the kid is perfect he's perfect

he's so good we were so impressed by him and wanted him to like us yeah cause he's just so cool and we were like yeah we

we're the head writers on SNL we're 14 too though we tried to like name drop SNL and he was like, oh, did you guys write Mr. Peepers? That was like the one thing he knew from the show. No, that was 25 years ago.

And then we asked him how old he thought we were. But that was one of the reasons among many why we cast him is because his energy instantly made us want to, we wanted to impress him we wanted him to think we were cool that's how you know he's a star yeah yeah like that is that role he also looks I mean he's

he looks like Bieber like he looks exactly like he should like he looks like one of those stars yeah it's not even Bieber it's an amalgamation of all those people like the Shawn Mendes like the squeakiest cleanest face I mean this is

but the blankest slate that's what we liked about him is because we liked the idea that people saw him and they were like we can make that into whatever we need it to be and then on the flip side Wanda who this was not her first audition I guess she didn't audition of course but she was so good and we met

her on the first day of shooting the plane episode and we were so nervous and we felt very much like like when they said Wanda would do it we were like this is so dumb I can't believe we've tricked her into wanting to do this why is she why did she say yes to this I absolutely screamed when I got that email

it was unreal she was so funny so so nice, so game. It was great. And that first day we were like, we're going to have to make you sweaty all day. Nice to meet you. You have to be sweaty all day. Spoiler, I guess.

She's so funny. No, she's incredible. The airplane gets hot. It gets hot. Sorry. It doesn't really ruin it. Just fantastic. I love it.

I mean, at this point it's out. You can start, you can binge the episodes that are out oh yeah and highly bingeable also you guys it is so so good so good

I mean I really I've been excited about it since I found out about it and like I'm you read this I told you guys when I saw I saw you last

I worked at the ride yes oh yeah yeah so when you guys had and you were rating tables too I was yeah

it's my story it's for you no but I mean especially like it was crazy to watch him work at the ride and then do that thing and I told you guys this

but like you almost got exactly it's more humiliating than what you wrote but we did because we we would

I would be walking on the street and the bus would pull up like who's this guy and I'd turn and I would be like on the street and the bus would pull up like, who's this guy? And I'd turn and I would be like, oh, hey, a bus. And they'd be like, well, what is your talent? And I was like, I guess I sing.

And then the song that I sang was, I know you're lying. Your lips are moving. Tell me, do you think I'm dumb? And I would do like a riff and they would be like, wow! Like the host would be like, like dancing to dumb? And I would do like a riff. And they would be like, wow! Like the host would be like dancing to it.

And I would also host. So I would have to play that part as well. But it's, so as you can tell, it's thicker. And then when that exchange is done, you are just a regular guy. So as the bus drives off, you're just back in character with your backpack, just walking around until it leaves. I think after that, they were like, you can sing. I sing i was like well i'm actually on my way to an audition and then and it's like and they're like wow new york full of people with dreams and so then then you sang one more song it was outside carnegie hall too it was outside

it stopped outside columbus circle and the real thing that happens at Columbus Circle is the ballerina. The ballerina. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, man. Oh my God. Yeah, that job. That was, it was fun. And I partnered with Darcy too because she like, Darcy did it.

Darcy claims that, hi Darcy, you can verify this, but Darcy claims to have set a lot of the jokes. She has claimed that to many people in many different environments.

I've heard it come up at several a party. I would do some of the script to her. She's like, yep, that was me. That was me and Tim Dunn. That was me and Tim Dunn. To her. That is so funny.

The best. Like that she still lights up with pride about that. As she like appears on every year on list for best comedic performance on television. She's like, no, but also The Ride. I was The Ride. She should be paid. She should be paid royalties. Yeah, she should get residuals. She's the best. She's the ride. She should be paid. She should be paid royalties.

Yeah, she should get residuals. She's absolutely killing it. The best. You know, we love her. No, you're doing what she wants. Don't do this. You're right. Forget her.

I think it's time. I think it might be time. It might be time to move on. Okay, time to do, I don't think so, honey. But also, wait, talking about Darcy, made me just realize

you guys take the most amazing vacations. Oh, God. Okay, those Instagrams have me feeling FOMO. Wait, I have a good story about that. We've gone on a group vacation with 12 of us for the last three years. For New Year's. For New Year's.

And this year we went to Costa Rica. Costa Rica. And Mike, my husband, works at Seth Meyers. And a bunch of the writers from Seth Meyers worked on the Golden Globes. And one of them told him that they were walking down a hallway and just heard someone in a room go, God, enough of this fucking Costa Rica trip. No. Yes.

Yes. But you need to though. What? Because I was, because I was working it. Oh yeah, you were there too. I think it was, someone was talking about it. Honestly. It was Bowen.

No, it was a different coast. It was a different group of people. I think that's what we settled on. No, I think that's, too I think it was someone was talking about it honestly it was Bowen no it was a different it was a different group of people yeah right I think that's what we settled on no I think that's it was not it came out of a production office they were correct

no they weren't no they weren't it's overkill we all did the math because we were like okay well we all posted like only three but then times 12

that is too much okay I do see no no I loved seeing it because it really put me in that place and it did make me feel better. It made me feel nice. I texted Darcy.

I was like, yo, this vacation is absolutely insane. And she was like, I know. I'm sorry. There was that day that everyone posted the fireworks in the parking lot. And I was like, I'm there. That wasn't even their best vacation. No, their best vacation was the year prior where, I'm sorry, but did you guys go on vacation to the place where Kim K lost an earring?

Did we? No. Okay. No. It was Bali? No. Bora Bora. Bora Bora.

We didn't stay where they stayed because we couldn't afford it. This is such a nightmare to me. No, but I live for those vacations. And I said, I was like, one day, bitch, well, you already have the money and so does Sudi, but you have to pay for me I was like we have to go on a vacation that's that lux okay well I maybe this is Sarah you already know this story of course

but when we went to Bora Bora we all had those like little huts on the water where you just like walk into the water and we got there and truly the first moment of day one of the trip we all jumped off into the water and I jumped off and landed hard on a piece of coral and broke my foot

open on my heel so deep, like inches deep in a way where they were like, you should go to the hospital or whatever. And the doctor was like unavailable. So they just were like, well, just all you have to do is just keep it dry, keep it out of water. So for the entire trip to Bora Bora, I couldn't put my feet in the water, which was insane.

Well, first we were like, we think the salt water will be good for it. Yeah. So for one day, it couldn't put my feet in the water, which was insane. Well, first we were like, we think the salt water will be good for it. Yeah. So for one day, it was like, keep it in the water. And then we actually Googled it and it was like, keep it out of the water. Keep it in the water. And then when we went to bed, I was like, let me just do a quick Google search just to verify what Sarah confidently told me. And it was like,

do not put it in the water. Oh my God. It does make sense that it was salt for it, right? So then I had it wrapped the whole trip. I didn't let it slow me down. I was, I was an inspiration. I was like, I don't want to. So then when we got back, you made a video. This is the first time I had ever heard of Cameo.

Oh. Oh yeah. I had, I had Sonia Morgan make a Cameo for Chris. That was like, oh gosh, she was so funny. I just sent her the deets of like, he had cut his foot on this trip. It sucked. But we just wanted to be like, thanks for pulling it out. And she's like, Chris, I heard about your foot, but you kept it dry.

It's so funny. I was like, and you were a team player? Sounds a little bit like someone else I know. It's Sonia. It's so funny. The funniest part was you kept it dry, Chris. You kept it dry. Alt title of ad.

Honestly, if faggot call doesn't make it. On our faggot call, if they say we can't have faggot call, it's you kept it dry. And it's going to be a faggot call. Oh, my God. That video is also on your Instagram. If anyone wants to deep dive be a faggot call. Oh my God. You know, that video is also, that's on your Instagram. Oh yeah. If anyone wants to deep dive the video. Oh,

it's great. Oh, is it? Okay. Wait, I'm going to see Sonia. One of the listeners got mad at me for saying faggot one time. And I'm like,

then turn this off. We're just reclaiming the word. That's all. Reclaiming. It's been ours. I'm not even, we're not even doing anything political with it. We're just saying,

we're just saying it to quote sometimes. Anyway, I think it's fun. It's been ours. I'm not even, we're not even doing anything political with it. We're just saying, we're just saying it to quote sometimes. Yeah. Anyway, I think it's fun. It's fun. I don't think so, honey. This is our,

ours is our segment. Oh baby. And should we say we are currently, because this episode is coming out in a few weeks. We're on tour right now. We're on tour. We are probably going to be very soon in Boston, Philly and DC and also in Houston,

Dallas and Austin for moon tower with potentially some add ons and also in Houston, Dallas, and Austin for Moon Tower with potentially some add-ons. And also Brooklyn on 420. And Brooklyn on 420. And then we have just been in Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, San Francisco. And we had so much fun.

We had so much fun from the past. Okay, so you have something? I have something. I have... Okay, then why don't you go first? Okay, great. I love that for us.

Okay, great. Love that. All right, so this will be Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. And his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey stares. Yeah, then why don't you go first? Okay, great. I love that for us. Okay, great. Love that. All right, so this will be Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey stares. Yeah, I hate stares. Maybe Donald Trump and I have something in common.

There's a stare in every building. There are engines of death. The technology is not there yet for people to not fall down stairs. Isn't that insane? A banister won't do ya. You know what I'm saying? Even if you hold on to a banister, you'll still eat shit and die. I almost fell down the stairs yesterday.

I almost probably might have been paralyzed from the waist down. I would have hated that. Isn't that crazy? That it's so easy and our lives, our bodies are so fragile. 30 seconds. A stair, a set of stairs can kill you or render you motionless.

I mean, just think about this we need ramps we need ramps everywhere ramps are the way to go 15 seconds it's less strain on your body it's less strain on your feet the whatever the torsion on your feet I was gonna say torsion

and so stairs I don't think so honey stairs you gotta go Donald Trump is right about something I don't think so, honey. Honey, stairs, you gotta go. Elevators. Donald Trump is right about something. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. Fuck you. All right. Also not a fan of stairs.

Love an escalator. Except, can I tell you which ones I hate? Which ones? Honey. The ones at that movie theater in Midtown. You know the one, AMC. Oh, yes, I know. Okay, horrifying.

Because I have a horrific fear of heights post they're steep well no because you look over the side and it's just sudden death if you were to turn on the water I have a fear of heights post skydiving oh interesting

after skydiving can't deal with the stuff so you hated the experience of it just to give you a brief synopsis after skydiving can't deal with the stuff. Whoa. Yeah, no, it's bad. So you hated the experience of it. Just to give you a brief synopsis, I don't even like flying. When we were 18 years old, my friends were like,

we're gonna skydive. And I'm like, yes, I'm a straight man. And so we got in the plane, hated being in the plane, don't like flying. The way that they make you do skydiving is you sit over the ledge, rock one, two, three, do a front flip out.

The free fall's fine. By the way, there's someone on my back tandem. He had spiky hair like that. I don't remember his name. I keep saying it was probably Trask. So free falling, for a minute and a half you free fall and then they don't tell you this

but the scary fucking part is when they pull the thing and then you float down for 10 minutes yeah so that's horrible and I hadn't eaten that day and I proceeded to

dry heave throw up into my shirt as we're floating down for 10 minutes with a guy on my back oh no and then he told you that the first shoot

didn't work and then what? he told you the first shoot no no no that was my friend that was my friend. My other friends that I went with loved this stuff.

Loved going skydiving. Loved this experience. And he went again. And my one friend, Kevin, went again and he came back and we're like, how was it? And he goes, yeah, the guy told me that the first shoot didn't go. He had to use the backup shoot. Can you imagine? I can't even listen to it.

She's got skyred Heaven too. She liked it. I loved the free fall. It's fun. But then I similarly felt that slow spiral to earth. I could have barfed. I hated it. It was horrible. Because I don't really like spinny. I don't like the teacups and shit.

So when we go to Disney, we'll just do the roller coasters. I did hang gliding. Have you ever done that? Hang gliding where you literally you're holding onto a little kite and a propeller plane pulls you up and you're connected to the plane by a string. And it takes you a mile into the sky. And then there's a man on your back and they just clip the cord and then you just float down. That sounds cool. It was so scary. And there's turbulence all the way up.

Going up was the worst because there's such bad turbulence. I was freaked. I was literally. And they're like, and we film it so you can buy the video and the video i'm like fuck yeah i'm literally screaming i'm so scared i am out of my mind afraid and the guy i was like when we're both done because then my boyfriend went second i was like you have to tell us honestly if it's me fine just tell us who was the most scared and i because my boyfriend's gonna be scared too and when we both guy was like, oh, it was you for sure. You? Yeah, me.

He's like, your boyfriend was fine. You were an absolute panic. Are you wearing a parachute in case or no? No. You're just strapped into the kite itself and it just floats down. Because in my brain, but I also have an issue where I think I could, if I was about to die, get out of it. Yeah. I have like a mental issue

right and if you were on a hang glider and had a parachute I would feel safer than being in the plane because I'm like

then you just like jump ship and parachute in your plane right right right no so no that makes sense to me yeah

like I always think if I drive a car off a bridge by accident like I can get my window down in time and like just swim out I whenever I see

whenever I see a car plunge into the water there I'm like, this is not a big deal. You had time. Willpower, hon. Like get out of there. Like that movie with Ted Kennedy. Oh, Trap Aquatic. I was like, this is no big deal. It really was.

It really was. It's a huge deal. Huge deal. I think it's Matt Rogers' turn. I don't Think So Honey. You had something Housewives related. Well, okay.

I thought our guests watched Atlanta, but I'm still gonna for the listeners. I'm still gonna love it. It's gonna be fine. You're gonna love it. We're gonna be so on board.

This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I Don't Fucking Think So Honey candy burris on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And here's why, bitch. Because the whole fucking

first half of the season was your daughter telling you, no, don't use your embryos that you've stored up. You already have two children that you never see. And you and Todd keep saying we're going

to have babies. And your response to your daughter is, I see you, I hear you, I'm going on Celebrity Break, brother? I don't think so, honey. Your kids want you there.

Also, I don't think so, honey. Candy in relation to Portia. Miss Portia has come a long way and is growing up. And let me tell you something, Also, I don't think so, honey, Candy, in relation to Portia. Miss Portia has come a long way and is growing up. And let me tell you something, honey. I don't like for Houses of Atlanta right now that the fact of the matter is we didn't see Candy and Todd's

birthday party filmed and now all of a sudden there's all this drama about Portia getting kicked out of Todd's birthday party and Candy, we're just supposed to take Candy's word for it that Portia was being inappropriate. But I don't think so, honey. Why wasn't there was being inappropriate. But I don't think so, honey.

Why wasn't there cameras on that event? I don't think so, honey. These housewives conflicts that come out of something that we don't see. Oh, five seconds. And I think it's really interesting

that Candy, I think, went to Andy Cohen and said, don't film that. We're not going to be comfortable with it and all of a sudden we're supposed to believe her. I don't think so, honey. Candy Burst,

I respect you for writing no scrubs. And that's why I was going to say you cannot take away the... Bills, bills, bills. Bills, bills, bills. No scrubs. And that's why I was going to say you cannot take away the bills bills bills no scrubs. Bugaboo. Bugaboo. This is it's rule coach number 89.

Bugaboo. But candy Burris you she's one of those people that you said that I love her for that. You cannot separate the artist from the art like you can do that with

Woody you can do that with Louie you can do that with all these people candy. No she is she is her art. That is her identity. Imagine if Woody, you can do that with Louis, you can do that with all these people. Candy? No. She is her art. That is her identity. Imagine if we lived in a world with no scrubs.

Unbelievable. Listen to the other one. I refuse to. I refuse to imagine. But also, the thing you said about you don't like when drama is based on something

we didn't see. Yes. To me, that is what Beverly Hills is constantly. You can tell they're fighting about who's telling, like, Vanderpump

has producerial issues with some of the girls. And like, I'm so sorry. Cut that. Some of the women. You can tell that it's like people don't want to film with each other, but they don't talk about it. And they're all mad at each other because of something I don't have access to. Well, apparently Vanderpump like isn't on this season really at all because she got so like in her feelings about whatever's going on with Kyle. Which this I really hated the last season of beverly hills and i think dorit needs to fucking go or get her shit

together because i do like her fashion she's looks great all the time oh damn she's it's tough but right now she's walking talking jessica simpson hair extension oh god and that's the tea and honestly like when she made an issue of Vanderpump v. Kyle like and we all forgot what the conflict even was that's my thing with these Housewives shows

is it's like it's not a good season if it's two women fighting and we don't remember why yeah that's what Beverly Hills is all the time

it's one tiny fight for 20 episodes or more yeah or more like they're still having fights about stuff that they've fought about seasons ago where at least with like new york new york they will get a fresh get some fresh shit on the floor new york every new york every episode they're like you're trash

i hate you i would kill your kids if i could and then 10 minutes later they're like i love you we're moving on from this and then they start over the next episode they leave it behind and the trips are the best. The trips are really good. And also, all those women are fun. You know what I mean? My thing with Beverly Hills, Lisa Vanderpump is not fun. No one's fun on there. I don't care.

I feel like you give Kyle enough. You give Kyle some room, she could be fun. I disagree. I won't give an inch on Kyle. I won't give an inch on Kyle. All right, what are our feelings on Teddy Mellencamp? Ariabe. She's boring.

Boring. I'm with Meghan McCain on that. But that's the thing. I don't like Dorit, but then she's good television, but I don't like her. She gaslights everybody. She's crazy. Yeah. What?

I forgot Dorit. She's the one who talks like this. PK. PK. Bo, that's great. That's really good. Putting it in the reel. Who is the Munchausen's one?

Who is the Munchausen's one? Oh my God. Yolanda. Yolanda. Rinna made up. I'm Rinna. I was obsessed with Yolanda. Because if you,

I would read you for being too sick. I'm Yolanda and I have Munchausen's? I would say like, I would accuse you of having Munchausen's. Because I'm staying in. I'm like, I don't want to go out. Yeah. And I would be so mad.

I love Lisa Rinna. She's having a damn blast. I live for Rinna. She's just happy to be there. She's so, like, she's harmless. You know what I mean? Because like other women will come for each other in a way that's so rude and it hurts everybody. And Lisa Rinna is just like, I don't know.

She's just trying. Just the best reactions to things too like when she's obviously in the wrong she's like what what do you mean and then she'll get this crazy look in her eyes that like she's pretending to try to think of what she could have done wrong but she fully knows I love her

I love her and Harry Hamlin I love that her and Harry Hamlin obviously have crazy sex absolutely I never feel safer than when I know I have an episode of Housewives to watch coming up. Yeah. That is a comfort. It's a blanket. Atlanta right now is not it.

And also, if they bring Phaedra back, I'm going to be furious. Because Phaedra fully accused Candy Burris and her husband Todd of trying to rape Portia. That was a narrative was really. Phaedra, who is a lawyer, made up this thing that Candy and Todd were going to drug Portia and told Portia that. And then on the. You should. What? You need to go back and watch the season.

Atlanta is supposedly the best. Atlanta is unbelievable because they. That's not like fun, silly drama. It is not. But in the beginning beginning it starts fine and then it gets so crazy and even the women know it's too much. Sarah wants the fun, silly drama of season two

of Beverly Hills when that guy killed himself. She wants that police casual vibe. Candy, it's like candy. That season was candy. No, that show has fully gone in. It's so good though. Atlanta, the bits that show has fully gone in. It's so good, though. The bits that I've watched are great. Atlanta is great. The white woman?

Kim. Kim Zolchak. She's out of control. She's not on the show? No. She officially can't play with the women anymore. I was going to say play with the girls, but cut that. The women. Women. They are grown. All right, listen.

Listen. It's time. It's time. I think, well, we asked Sarah for her culture first, so I think Chris must kick off. Okay, okay, okay. Great, let's do that.

No, I'm not into symmetry. Okay. I don't know if I have a minute, but we're about to find out together. You're gonna have a minute. Oh, no. Just stretch it out. Okay, this is Chris Kelly's

I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. Okay, I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. Okay, I Don't Think So Honey episodes of dramas that are 63 minutes long. That is too fucking long. An episode of drama should be 44 to 47 minutes. If it's a special episode, I will give you 56

minutes tops. And don't tell me it's to set the mood, it's to set the tone, it's to set the world. Put me in the edit, honey, because I can get it down. 63 is unacceptable. Because also, I will say that 63 minute episodes are 100 minutes long because it takes me 37 minutes

to decide if I want to watch that episode. 30 seconds. Also, I don't think so, honey. Game of Thrones episodes that are 85, that's a fucking movie. It's a feature film. If I wanted to watch Roma, I would watch it, but I don't want to watch Roma. I'm sure when I watch Roma, I would watch it. But I don't want to watch Roma. I'm sure when I watch Roma, I will love it and I will talk about it ad nauseum for weeks.

But right now, I can't do it. Which is why I'm trying to watch a 47-minute episode. I will say the only episode of TV that could be 63 minutes is The Housewives. I would watch the dailies and all of that. But if you're not The Housewives, trim it to 47. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Oh, my God. That was a really good one. That's not it to 47. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Oh, my God.

That was a really good one. That's good. That is not a comedy bit. I feel strongly about this. No. I don't think so, honey. It's not a comedy thing. Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry to even cut that. Cut that. No, cut it. I don't think so, honey. It's a dramatic evening. If you come to see us on tour, you're coming to see truth, not comedy. I'm not funny. I'm not funny.

It's rule of culture number 92. I'm not funny. I'm not funny. It's rule of culture number 92. I'm not funny. Don't come to my show and start to laugh, Emma. Can I say something? What? I love Maisel so much. My one thing with it? Too long. It's a comedy,

dramedy, hybrid, whatever. It's too long. But you know what? It's a lot of masters, so they can't cut it. They don't cut it down. They don't go into singles you can see the problem have you guys watched homecoming on amazon yes no okay i started this the first two episodes isn't it great i loved it so it took me a minute to get into the style of it or something like the choice of the you know class frame and everything but I thought it was great yeah honestly when the aspect ratio changed later in the season when she like comes back

I was like this is so good and also Julia hashtag Julia Julia is coming for it in such a way and she looks the same not even in a way that's like work she just looks

like natural and also what I love about Homecoming is insane. I know. Not even a way that's work has been done. It's crazy. She just looks natural. She's stunning. And also what I love about Homecoming is I loved how big all the performances were. The detective was fully doing like a detective. And Julia's just doing this small work. I loved it. It feels like a podcast when you watch

it. To me, do you guys listen to the podcast? No. It's so crazy because the podcast has also legitimately great actors that are just not in the podcast? No. It's so crazy because the podcast has also legitimately great actors that are just not in the show. Right, right. It's Catherine Keener, Amy Sedaris, David Schwimmer, but it's like real actors and then they just changed it to other good real actors.

And can we say, it's actually a rule of culture number 98, David Schwimmer, great actor. Great actor. David Schwimmer, great actor. I'm so sorry, I wasn't making it up. It's not a rule unless we say it together. By the way, if you want to listen to a narrative podcast on this network, listen to the Angela Vine starring fucking Alfred Molina. And Miss Constance Zimmer.

And Mr. Alan Tudyk. Slay. Slay. Constance Zimmer on Unreal, the first two seasons. Yeah, the first two. She is so good. I love that show. Yeah, it's so good.

And also, God, what's her name? The lead actress. Sherry Appleby. Sher is so good. I love that show. Yeah, it's so good. And also, God, what's her name? The lead actress. Shiri Appleby. Shiri Appleby. Very good. Great. That was one of the best performances on television. Yeah, that's great.

That's a fun show. So fun. And you know, they brought it back on Hulu for like a last season that they just kind of released all at once. I watched it. It actually was a return to form. It was good. Whoa.

I will watch it immediately. I will watch that before I watch Homecoming. Yeah. Well, Homecoming homecoming both valid 25 minutes that's what that's why i brought it up love it greatly every episode is i was always surprised like surprised when it was done and i was like oh great i can watch another one it was great so good and also i was concerned that episode would be too scary for me too but it wasn't you killing eve is so easily bingeable like 25 minute episodes you just is it really only 25 oh my god so good right i think so we love that we love that sure that's true yeah maybe not but i think i think they were short episodes you would lie to me okay well maybe maybe we'll cut that out you might want to get in the middle of that okay i'm sorry we're about to be separated for six weeks and he's fucking

lying to me before i leave oh i'm sorry okay this this is it this is it this is it this is sarah sarah schneider's this is sarah which is the spin-off of this is us this is us this is sarah's i don't think so honey her time starts now okay i don't think so honey babies with pierced ears okay first of all this is a personal a personal taste um i just think it looks like an adult decision on like a baby and i hate that it's weird and i don't like it so i don't think so honey about that but then also like within society you have to it's illegal to get a tattoo until you're 18 but you can bring a potato that can't talk into eclairs and a teen will poke permanent holes in its ears for life? How is that possible? How is that legal? That should

be illegal. That can't be a decision that we all stand by. And then also, I don't think so, honey, being like, it's for the kids. She'll be so happy later that I made this decision. She's a baby. This is for you because she's not picking out her accessories right now, honey.

Oh, honey. You want her little romper to match her little earrings that you put in her. You're the adult. She's the baby. She did not make this choice. You did and that is rude and I do not think so, honey. And can I end one second early? Okay, great. Wow. Bravo.

Your ears are pierced, are they? No. They're not. Me neither. Permanent? they? No Oh great They're not me neither Mine neither Permanent? No Permanent? No No see never fell for it The cartilage grows back

Or the skin grows back But even if it grows back together There's that little Divot Divot Yeah And these babies did not choose this No

My body has to be undivided I hate it I hate undivided body I refuse to let anyone Stick a thing in my body Not a single divot. Not a single. No, don't poke me.

My holes need to go somewhere. That's actually a rule of culture. Why not, right? Rule of culture number 92. My holes need to go somewhere. What does it mean? I don't know. You fucking hear it.

Wait, that's really important that you said that. And I can't believe you can get your ears pierced out of Claire's. Yes. Is this true? You can just walk in. Yeah. And a teen will do it? Yeah.

I mean, in New Jersey, that's where all my friends in high school went, just to Claire's. And then the people working at the Claire's were other people in our high school. So it was just a bunch of teens poking each other. Yeah. You're a Jersey girl. Yes. Long Island. Oh, yeah. If you couldn't tell from why I'm like this each other. Yeah. You're a Jersey girl. Yes. Long Island. Oh, yeah.

If you couldn't tell from why I'm like this. Allies. Allies. Allies. I mean, trust truly. Bellin, where are you from? Colorado. And then Montreal.

But Montreal before that. Oh. Cool. One of the crazy things about him is he's truly multicultural. Born in Australia. Born in Australia. Oh, my God. Then.

Canadian. Raised in Montreal. Then went to Denver. English. His third language. Whoa. You know what? Matt is.

That's very cool. That's what Matt says. And go ahead and now say something about me. Matt. Lost his virginity on a boat. No, that's wrong. I was forced to hook up with the guy that I lost my virginity with at 19 against my will on a boat

in the Long Island Sound. And it's dicey. Sounds like we'll have some Atlanta territory. It's some Atlanta shit. It's some Atlanta shit. No, but he was really sweet otherwise.

No. Yeah, sounds like it. But he was sweet and that's all our time. It was nice. I told this story on Guys We Fucked and he heard it and then he attacked me

on Facebook.com. Oh, no. Wait, are you on Facebook.com? No, not anymore. That's the worst part of the story. I'm really sorry. I'll tell you what happened. This is the sick thing that happened.

Oh no. I'm not on Facebook.com and I had deactivated long ago, but I fell for this thing, which was the 10 year aging challenge. And I was like, let me go on Facebook.com and find a picture. Went on, was being attacked. Over messenger by this person.

Yeah. And this is what you do. You download all your files. Yeah, and then delete it for good. Delete it for good. That's what I did just a week ago. It's so easy. I'll do that.

I'll do that today. It's so easy. I mean, at this point, it's kind of like out of sight, out of mind, but I should just get rid of it, right? Yeah, I mean, but then when you download your file, like you download all your messages, all your wall posts, all your mind, but I should just get rid of it. Right? Yeah. I mean, but, and then you, when you download your file, like you, you download all your messages, all your wall posts, all your photos, everything.

I'm so bad at computers. It's very. I didn't think you'd do that. Yeah. Good. It's like in one zip file. Yeah. No one should have a Facebook.

I agree. I'm going to come in hard and political right at the end. An hour and 50. Chris comes alive. And another thing. But you like Twitter. No, I don't like Twitter. Do you like Insta?

Yeah, but that's tough because isn't it Facebook still? I know. So don't poke holes in my... Delete your Facebook, everyone. Don't question me. Don't question me. But this is also

what everyone's dealing with right now. Everyone's being very righteous about Facebook, but then they're still sucking at the teats. Instagram is my favorite. I know, it's the best. I'm addicted.

It's fine. I love. I love Finsta culture. That's my political thing. Sucking at the teats. Instagram is my favorite. I know. It's the best. I'm addicted. I love. All right, listen. I love Finsta culture. That's my political thing. Okay, I didn't even know you had a fake Instagram until today.

You do. I do. I do. Finsta culture is so funny. We almost put that in the show. Yeah. Oh my God, really? Yeah, it's so funny.

Because we learned about it from Case. He taught us. It's cute, right? Whoa. Yes. I just post dumb memes and like shit that like

messages that people send me that are like so uncouth and terrible. Sudi told me at brunch today that you had a Finsta and I didn't know about it. I couldn't believe it. I thought it was someone copying you.

No, everyone should get a Finsta. But wait, isn't it now that you can do like close friends? Isn't that the like idea of that? Yeah, but also I want, sometimes I just want to post like a thirst trap

and I don't want to do it on my main. So you do it to the 10 people? On my Rinsta. Real Insta. And so Finsta, Finsta's for like thirst traps and all that stuff

oh gosh right so anyway that's why I have an OnlyFans oh baby baby little private bed honey

this is this was such a fun episode oh man this is a blast thanks for having us this was so fun and also thank you for truly being the best

oh my god like seriously like we've been fans for such a long time we love everything that you guys do. That's too nice. We love this podcast so much.

Oh my gosh. And it was just as fun live as it is to listen to on this. Wow. And they were just going to watch us. And they were just. And I'm so happy

they participated. Me too. Please watch the other two. It's on right now on Comedy Central. And like we said, easily bingeable. And honestly,

like seek out all the work. Go back and binge the YouTube videos. Oh, baby. Although, what wasn't on YouTube today? Asian American Dolls? Asian American Dolls on NBC.

It's on YouTube. Or the Dark Web. Or the Dark Web. Or hit up the Dark Web. Or hit up the Dark Web. Oh my God, Chris, Sarah, thank you so much.

Thank you. You guys are the best. We're going to end on a song as we always do. Yay. Okay. You know what a song is. Go, you go.

It's a candle, small peach candle. You are to really appreciate that song, head to YouTube.com. Bye. Forever. Dog.

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