Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “The F*g Who Cried Shark” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What?
Starting point is 00:00:19 You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo. Or stream it on City TV+. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question, what kind of dudes are these dudes? We're going to find out, Jules.
Starting point is 00:00:59 New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:01:37 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. our podcasts. called, if I might say so myself. It's a pining episode. Because we're in the pines. We are. This is the sequel to An Honest Conversation. Our episode from two years ago. Where we debuted Charizard Era. Wow. That was the debut.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Would you say that we were in our Charizard Era this week? I would say we were in our Typhlosion Era. What's that? Explain to all the readers, Katie's, publicists, and finalists, and me. So Cyndaquil is the sort of fire starter
Starting point is 00:02:34 Pokemon in Generation 2. These are one of the new girls that I don't know about. Yeah. Well, she's been around, Cyndaquil. Generation 2 was, you know, a while back. 20 plus years I know you're a purist Cyndaquil, Quilava, Typhlosion
Starting point is 00:02:51 By the way my voice is So sexual Putrid Well I guess One man's putrid is another man's sexual And that's actually rule of culture Which one is that? Rule of culture number 72 One man's putrid is another man's sexual. And that's actually rule of culture. Which one is that? Rule of culture number 72.
Starting point is 00:03:06 One man's putrid is another man's sexual. Right? Is that what you said? Yes, it is. Speaking of putrid, it's day five or six of the Fire Island Pines trip, right? Yes, that's right. Which is really when you become aware of sharing a toilet with a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I've shared a toilet with Matt Rogers for an extended period of time, and I've never felt more connected to you. You know, I really try to keep it cute for you in there. So do I. I really, really, I'm like, let me wipe a little. No, I'm not saying- Wipe the bowl? Well, I'm wiping the, I'm sorry, Raiders KD's publicist finalist.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm wiping- We have some sensitive girls that listen to this. If the seat is up and I see a little bit of, you know, stuff on the rim. TW poop. It's not even poop necessarily. I'm saying if the seat is up and I see like TW piss. I'm seeing piss on the porcelain. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I take a little wad of TP. I wipe it. I go, I want my sister to have a nice experience in here. Right. Well, you know that I'm not good for the environment and the water system because I always flush pee. That's not good. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I always flush pee and I still use flushable wipes. Bowen looks so disappointed. He's like, I'm not. And although enjoyment, I'm sad again. Don't tell my boyfriend. It's not what he's made for. What was I made for? That's, of course, Queen Z-Lock, the voice.
Starting point is 00:04:43 The TikTok sensation that has really swept the world I'm having an incredible time Belting Belting and all the new music this week We got Queen Z-Lock We have Selena Gomez I'll be single soon Single soon is really good
Starting point is 00:05:01 I have to say I'm bopping Popping, locking, dropping, queenie locking. Queensie locking. You know I went on the Selena Gomez Spotify and almost bought a Selena Gomez t-shirt. Now talk about this because I was with you right when you were about to add to cart and then we had to
Starting point is 00:05:15 go and get up and get breakfast or something and you were like, I'll do it later. And I was like, yes, please. And then for some reason, you bailed. Here's what happened. I really wanted to buy for the very first time in my life Selena Gomez merch. I don't's what happened. I really wanted to buy, for the very first time in my life, Selena Gomez merch. I don't know what happened. I just said, I need the t-shirt. I just wanted it.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So I got onto the Spotify. And you can, they link to the artist merch store. Only some of the merch, not all of the merch. So it's best practices to just go to the artist's webpage directly, but keep going. Go right to the source. That's what's best practices. But I wasn't doing best practices yesterday when I went to go buy the to the source. That's what's best practices. But I wasn't doing best practices yesterday when I went to go buy this
Starting point is 00:05:47 Selena Gomez shirt, and then here's what happened. Usually, I have my debit card memorized so I can just put it in, but I had some debit card fraud. Did I tell you about this? The person kept buying gift cards, which is such a clever way to really circumvent. Nine $210
Starting point is 00:06:04 Nike gift cards. And I was like, oh God. Now I have to call and cancel the card and do the whole thing, which I heard is only a 20 second conversation with Chase. I heard they're great about this. Thank you, Chase. Thank you, Chase. Can we just say enough about
Starting point is 00:06:18 hating on banks? They do a great service. Banks are incredible. They do a great service. It's actually rule of culture number six. Banks are incredible. They do a great service. It's actually rule of culture number six. Banks are incredible. They do a great service. Who else is going to hold your money? Girl, and you know it's going to be there.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You know when there's a crash, they will have the money. Because yesterday, there was a crash. One of the members of my church, her daughter had a crash. When? Last night. Last night. She was ejected from the sunroof. She fell down into a neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Did she live? No. Wear your seatbelt. I'm excited to be here. We're quoting Mary M. Cosby, who's re-entered the world stage, as it were. First of all,
Starting point is 00:07:04 I missed you deeply last week, as we all did. I can't believe I wasn't here for the best episode of Lost Couch. I did feel some type of way about it. It had nothing to do with you not being there. Let me guarantee you that. I just wanted to connect with Sarah,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and I said to her, I was like, you have to come back. She's coming back, no question. I actually think she might be the quickest return guest ever of all time. She's coming back, I think. I actually think she might be the quickest return guest ever of all time. She's coming back, I think, really soon. Okay. Next week. She has a movie out, but she can't promote it. We can promote this.
Starting point is 00:07:32 No, we can't. We can't. We can't because it's our friend. Did you hear what you just said? We can promote this. We can't promote at all. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. A struck company, Bowen. It's kind of the worst struck company of them all. What movie is Sarah in? This is not a promotion. This is me asking for information. It's kind of the worst drug company of them all. What movie is Sarah in? This is not a promotion. This is me asking for information.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It is. You're so not invited to my bar mitzvah. My bat mitzvah. Who's in that? Sandler and his girls. Holy shit. And Sarah is playing the person who tutors them. Their Torah passages or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Not or whatever. I haven't seen the movie yet. Oh my goodness. The reviews are luminous. Everyone's saying that Sarah is the highlight. We can't, we can't keep talking about this. We can't keep promoting it. We can't keep promoting it.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Well, this isn't promotion. It's just facts. It's just facts. Well, the strike is entering its 45th year. And, you know, we're barely hanging on in a way. I'm starting to get really anxious. Anxious.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Starting to chatter. My teeth are chattering. Look at me as I, by the way, we're Anxious. Starting to chatter. My teeth are chattering. Look at me. By the way, we're in sort of a... Dark room. Dark room together. And Bowen and I have been sharing a bed, a toilet, and a memory. Can I say, I'm really proud of the way that we have cohabitated.
Starting point is 00:08:39 We've been incredible roommates. Great roommates. We've shared a bed in a very peaceful, considerate way. I've been playing white noise. Can you play a little bit of very peaceful, considerate way. I've been playing white noise. Can you play a little bit of your white noise for the readers? It's not even white noise. It's like, it feels like... It's like very fluid soundscapes on an app called Endel.
Starting point is 00:08:55 E-N-D-E-L. And they have a sleep soundscape. Just listen to this, you guys. And it's just... Every night he plays this. Hold on. Not yet. Not on. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. This isn't it. Sounds like Taylor Swift is about to hit the stage.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Imagine this. I'm already relaxed. It feels like you're at Asanda Aveda. I'm where? Can we play it the whole time? Sure. We might be droopy-eyed, mama. Let's play it the whole time? Sure. We might be droopy-eyed, mama. Let's play it the whole time during the pod.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Okay. Okay, so this is the episode of the podcast where we really drop in. And this is also going to be a sleep podcast. Yes. Oh, this is so good. I know. It's nice. We've been really good roommates, wouldn't you say?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah. Is Doug going to get mad at us for this? I should we turn it off? as good as in theory it would have been I don't want to give engineer Doug a headache he doesn't deserve it
Starting point is 00:09:58 I do want to say a couple things about the culture that I was experiencing while I was on my short sabbatical I went to go see Kelly Clarkson. Do you want to explain to everyone what happened? Yeah, there's a degree of shame or disappointment here for me personally. Matt had for months
Starting point is 00:10:13 planned a big trip with a lot of friends to go see Kelly Clarkson in Las Vegas. We'd even mentioned it on the podcast that I was going to go. I was so excited. We told her to her face that we're going to go see her in Vegas. I lied to Kelly. You lied to her face that we're going to go see her in Vegas. Yeah. I lied to Kelly. You lied to her several times. Several times. Somebody lied
Starting point is 00:10:30 to her and that was me. I, as you all know, was truly, truly, truly devastated by a bacterial infection. Yeah. I've never felt sicker in my life. I mean, it sort of reminded me of last year,
Starting point is 00:10:46 the pines when I got, and I'm just going to come out and say this, whole fever. It's an illness. I have been shy about saying exactly what happened on this podcast, but I got a whole fever. He got whole fever, which is a fever you get from consuming whole in a way.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah. Is it fair to say that? Is that too much information? I think that basically what I'm saying is it has been that in the past I have performed a rim job on some hot guys.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Really hot guys. Remote voice. Sometimes, very rarely, you get sick from it. And this happened to me last year. And honestly, what you were describing like seemed to me like whole fever. But it's not. I have not gotten anywhere near a hole in so long.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And can we just say it's a miracle that we don't get whole fever more as a community. When we're down there and we come out unscathed. Again and again and again. It's like a blowfish. God wants us down there. Yeah. Because he would make us sick every damn time and it doesn't happen. It wouldn't feel so good if God didn't
Starting point is 00:11:56 want it to be. Period. And that's actually real culture number 91. It wouldn't feel so good if God didn't want us down there. But anyway, did it go to see Kelly Clarkson? So yes, I was so sad to God didn't want us to be. But anyway, I didn't go to see Kelly Clarkson. So yes, I was so sad to miss it. Tell us everything. You guys, this Kelly Clarkson Vegas show was
Starting point is 00:12:12 well, first of all, I went to the last one on purpose because I knew that that would be a special one. And yes, any Kelly Clarkson stan knows that this was the 2E's set list. We had happier than ever her cover of Billie Eilish
Starting point is 00:12:28 which she discussed on this podcast. We had Sober. Wow. Which is one of the great Kelly Clarkson lost singles. Talk about what makes you, why do you think she did it at the show? Because she knew that it was a special night. Yeah. She knew that it was the last night of the tour and
Starting point is 00:12:44 that she had been, fans have been clamoring to hear this one for a very long time. I know. Me included. I know. She also did the song, Didn't I? She did. Didn't I so good. Didn't I so good.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Did she go, did, did, did nah. Did nah. Yep, she did. Good. Did, did, did nah. I love that. Kind of a glitch in the matrix. I mean, just, she sang a moment like this. Come on.
Starting point is 00:13:06 A song she does not like to sing, but I think she said, you know what? I'm giving it to these Vegas people. These fucking baggy people. You included. Oh, yeah. I've never been baggy. You were baggy. I have to say, I'm on like, this is August 29th.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Pretty much this entire month I've been on vacation because I haven't had the time. So I've just smooshed it all into August. I want you to know, I'm ready to have a vacation from vacation. Does that mean work? I guess. I am going to have to get to work soon. Yeah. And I don't want you to think about that too much right now, though.
Starting point is 00:13:46 You're on vacation. I'm on vacation right now. But hey, readers, if you hear me, you never be on vacation, but you can't stop thinking about work. And then you think, what's wrong with me? No, nothing's wrong. Why can't I just enjoy? Nothing's wrong. It's the world, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:14:02 It's the world. And I hate how it works out that way. If it's not work, it's kids. If it's not kids, then it's. Oh, if it's not world, sweetie. It's the world, and I hate how it works out that way. If it's not work, it's kids. If it's not kids, then it's the marriage. Then if it's not the marriage, it's the environment. Honey! Talk about how little the beach is. The beach is disappearing.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The beach is disappearing in the pines. It's not a good sight! And there was a shark sighting when we were there. Oh, this was good. So yesterday we were on the beach sort of trying to enjoy the sun, the surf, the sand. There was a, I'm going to say, one of the craziest gay guys in America. One of the craziest and most hung gay guys in America.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He had a huge penis. Was flopping around with his genitalia, running around, screaming to everyone. There are sharks in the water. There are sharks in the water. Yeah, imagine just like a crazy guy that he sort of had like dyed blonde hair running around. He had such a big penis. And was it uncut? I was being polite and not looking because he came up to me and Patrick with an interest of our face.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And I heard what he said to you. He said, you better be careful. There's sharks in the water. And I chose to believe him. So then we were all, as the kids say, sat. We were sat for him. But we were studying the water and the waves
Starting point is 00:15:13 and a half hour goes by and we're like, I don't think there's a shark in the water. We thought maybe he was just a crazy guy who was screaming shark. And people were gathering. There was a group of gays gathering around him as he was pointing and screaming. And then some people were like, I think I see it. I think I see it.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And he kept, remember, he kept describing how big it was. Yeah, he said, I saw the whole body. The whole body. And he did his whole wingspan, kind of stretched his arms out wide. And we were like, there's no way. So then he runs down the beach, I guess, to alert Cherry Grove. He went all the way to Cherry Grove? He went for really far down the beach and nude, nude, nude.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And the dick was swinging in the air. And so all the gays, us included, we're sat. A bunch of them are standing. We're sort of looking at the ocean like, I don't think we see a thing. And it was very much a situation of, you've heard of the boy who cried wolf, but you haven't heard of the fat who cried shark. The title of ep for this is the Fat Who Cried Shark, this episode. And we dedicate this to that legend because guess what happened?
Starting point is 00:16:12 We saw it with our own eyes. We saw the fin pop out and the scream we scrum. I said, and I turned to some gays that were seated probably about 15 yards away. I said, did you see that? Before I even could finish the sentence, they said, oh, we saw it. Oh, we saw it. Oh, we saw it. And this shark was, it was in shallow waters.
Starting point is 00:16:34 It was in shallow waters. It was, I guess, technically a sand shark, like not jaws size, but big. Big enough to like bite your ankle off. I think it could take your ankle. It could take your ankle. It would be an uncomfortable rest of the trip if you had had an encounter with this baby shark. I
Starting point is 00:16:53 think. Which is a bop, by the way. Thank you for saying that. It's time that it crossed over. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations.
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Starting point is 00:18:10 I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that. Like, years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:19:40 What should we say what we saw on TikTok? Tell. Can I ask you a question? You are a TikTok girlie? Not really. I look at it like once a month, truly. Okay. But you are becoming more of a TikTok girlie because this morning we woke up and all we did was just swipe through Z-Way's TikToks.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I love to watch Z-Way on TikTok. Z-Way on TikTok, she gets it. I mean, I'm coming out as like a Z-Way stan for sure. We've been stans. I mean, it's not even like I have to come out, but I'm just saying. Okay, I'm going to type into TikTok right now something a little bit special, which is Nicki Minaj, Baby Shark. All right, you're not going to believe the capability of AI,
Starting point is 00:20:17 and I know we're fighting them in the Great War right now. So this is I mean, how does it do that? Can you explain AI to me? I can't. I can't possibly. I'm not smart enough. There are articles that can do a much better job than me. One thing Bowen has been saying to me lately is like, look it up.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And you've said the same to me. No, I always try to explain it. Even if I don't know what I'm talking about, I always at least give you something to think about. That's the reason why we're in this mess. What's this mess? This mess is people who don't know what they say trying to explain things. People who don't know what they say trying to explain things is why we're in this mess.
Starting point is 00:21:34 That's true. Oh my God. What do you got pulled up? What I have pulled up, for some reason, Baby Shark reminded me of, well, you playing that beat, that sort of remixed AI thing. Baby Shark reminded me of, well, you playing that beat,
Starting point is 00:21:48 that sort of remixed AI thing. By now, it will have been announced that we have our London date in September, September 22nd. We're going on a Euro tour, a small Euro tour. Small Euro tour. This is exciting stuff. September 22nd, we'll be in London,
Starting point is 00:22:03 followed by September 24th, we'll be in Berlin. And then the next day, September 25th, we'll be in London, followed by September 24th, we'll be in Berlin. And then the next day, September 25th, we'll be in Amsterdam at Boom Chicago. We're so excited. Should we call this our Lundy, Lundy, Lundy tour? Yes. Las Culturistas Lundy, Lundy, Lundy tour. Even though it's three different cities in Europe,
Starting point is 00:22:20 we're going to call it the Lundy, Lundy, Lundy tour. I think that's a great idea. I think that could be very, very good. People will remember it. They'll remember it. We haven't been on tour in a while. No, we haven't been on tour in years. It's because, and the only reason why we're able to go is because we're on strike
Starting point is 00:22:38 so, and Bowen Yang has off from Saturday Night Live, or so we think. Unless the AMPTP comes out of nowhere. Unless Carol Lombardini comes swinging her big old dick and she uses it for good, not evil. Carol Lombardini used her big dick
Starting point is 00:22:53 for good, not evil. Please. Part of me feels sorry for the woman. Because who wants that fucking job to be the rep for all these fucking crazy people? I Googled her and it wasn't what I expected. I haven't seen her.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Just her face, you mean? Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm not saying it either way. I Googled Carol Lombardini. Actually, no. Actually, this is exactly what I pictured her to look like. Can you tilt the camera towards me so I can see? Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:23 This is a Carol and this is a Lombardini down. Yeah. She's both first and last name like God created. I close my eyes and this is what I picture a woman named Carol Lombardini who is the negotiator for every major studio in Hollywood. She looks like Patti LuPone's sister
Starting point is 00:23:39 that wasn't talented so she became the negotiator for the AMPTP. Say that one more time. She looks like Patti LuPone's sister who wasn't talented so she became the negotiator for the AMPTP. Say that one more time. She looks like Patti LuPone's sister who wasn't talented, so she became the negotiator for the AMPTP. The way you are so right about that, that's why I needed you to repeat.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yeah. That's... By the way, let's talk about Patti LuPone. She tore up the Ice Palace the other night, everyone. I mean... We got all the hits. We got Metal Ark. We got everything coming up. We got Metal Ark. We got everything coming up. Roses. We got Don't Cry For Me Argentina. Some people. Don't Cry For Me Argentina was such a moment.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I mean, all these fags knew to hum with her by the end, and I could have cried. When she goes, Have I said too much? There is nothing more I can think of to say to you. Oh, you're giving Patty. You're giving Patty. You're giving Patty. All you need to do is look at me to know.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Every word is true. And she goes, this one's just because. Just because. She did songs from her house. She pulled out little numbers. Of course, did that. Cola Skola summed it up perfectly. She did that thing where she pulls out the number,
Starting point is 00:24:48 looks at it. Yeah. I was in the show on Broadway. Enough said. Enough said. And then just launches into it. I would say, and I'm saying this, this is not a pejorative.
Starting point is 00:24:57 No, no. And I swear to God, this is not a pejorative. But we discussed it last night. Flat, maybe 15 to 20% of the time. But guess what? I thought this during the show. I thought, oh yes, I remember now. Perfect is boring. Perfect is so boring. You want the little imperfections. You really do. I'm not just saying this. 100%. Perfect is overrated. Also, it's got to be hard to like hear yourself in there there and the fact that she was so fucking good oh god oh my god
Starting point is 00:25:26 can I can I oh my god she you know what she does so well what perform perform one and I can't be the first person to say to point this out but she's so good at like holding the space and the silence and like you know when the person is not singing in the song
Starting point is 00:25:42 she's so good at being present and grounded that she's comfortable, so at ease just staring out into the audience while there's an instrumental solo or something. It's hard to remain connected and not look corny. She did that on Colbert when she sang Ladies Who Lunch.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I think she must have asked Stephen to sit across from her at the table. And during the instrumental parts, the two of them are just staring at each other. And it's so intense and beautiful. And during like the instrumental parts, the two of them are just staring at each other. And it's so intense and beautiful. And I'm like, that's fucking Patti. Yeah. She was unbelievable. It is that like when someone is doing musical theater
Starting point is 00:26:13 and they have to stand and sort of like, just look at the audience, that can be a very tough moment for the audience. That is a challenge. But she was just in it. She was, ugh. I said, this woman doesn't even need an equity card. And it's their loss, really.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Equity's loss. Hey, Actors' Equity, you lost this one. You just walked down on the best mind pussy you ever had. I'm just quoting Sarah Sherman. And now we're attacking a union. We're Carol Lombardini. Call me Carol.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Call me Carol. Because I think the Actors's equity is a loser here stop it I think you're all losers for what you did to Patty now you've seen all the divas this summer you saw Patty, Beyonce Taylor, Kelly
Starting point is 00:26:57 who else? I saw earlier in the year I saw Adele, I did see Mariah at World Pride, I saw Kylie Minogue at World Pride, I can't believe that was this year did see Mariah at World Pride. I saw Kylie Minogue at World Pride. I can't believe that was this year. You saw Mariah at LA Pride. I'm sorry. Mariah at LA Pride. Yes. Sorry. What else? I saw Chapel Roan. Chapel. Upstart.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Oh my God. I've seen oh my God. I mean, just numerous, countless. And I'll be seeing Adele again in November. Yeah. I want you all to know that it won't be like this every year. I'm having my year of big concerts. I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Why do you say this? Because I feel like it was like this every year. Then what? Well, because I don't think we're going to have a every year where all the girls are out on the road at all times. You know what I was thinking next year is like, who's going to be on tour next year?
Starting point is 00:27:41 Like nobody. They all went on tour this year. Literally Taylor and Beyonce. Oh, I guess you're right. They will be. They are extending their tours. Right. But like who are the new girls that are going to go out on the road? Nikki. We got Pink Friday too. Nikki.
Starting point is 00:27:55 She wants to tour again. You can tell. She's said as much. You know who said they don't want to tour? Who? Miley. That's right. That's right. Well, Miley has an interest. I relate to Miley in this way for once. By the way, I who Miley that's right that's right well Miley has an interest I relate to Miley in this way for once by the way I love Miley it's just that like I've you don't relate to her I've never had a way in I've always loved the music but I've never been like oh we have this in common which is not what I want to look for in all my pop stars obviously but with Miley
Starting point is 00:28:21 fine she said something so true what did she say that was so true? She said, if you are out on stage, if you're like really flexing your ego on that kind of schedule, you need to balance that with the same amount of rest. She's like, you need to actually
Starting point is 00:28:39 close, shut out the world for the equal amount of time and intensity. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm getting serious on the pod. You're getting so serious. Anyway. It's supposed to be fun, you know? But I think the best entertainment I've seen this summer.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Sorry, I'm doing it. I had a Fire Island cough. That's okay. Hopefully not a whole fever cough. No, no, no, no. The best entertainment I've seen this summer, and it's recency bias, but I'm ready to say it. We saw a double header last night.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Oh, yeah. A double header. A double header. Hedda Lettuce at Cherry's on the Bay. Then promptly at 11 p.m., Busted Queen at the Ice Palace. Busted Queen. Those were two of the best shows I've seen all year. I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Their command of the audience is unmatched. I'm telling you. The funniest girls out here. Site-specific queens. They can work in any venue, but they work the best on Fire Island. Hedda Lettuce and Busted. That's my drag race top two. And I would want to see it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I want to see it. But I mean, these two, these two are so important. We just ran into some gays this morning who were like, oh, we wanted it. We were supposed to see her, but our house, you know, we tried to convince her house,
Starting point is 00:29:53 but they were like, they didn't want to. They didn't get it. Whatever you do, if you are on Fire Island next year or into the fall, if the Queens are still here and they are performing. Till October said busted zero till October till pumpkin spice season.
Starting point is 00:30:09 She said, and you owe it to yourself. I mean, you really do. I cannot be more emphatic. No, he cannot be more emphatic. He is standing up.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm standing. I was in. Have you ever seen me happier? No, you were having a one. I was so happy last night. When's the happiest I've ever seen you was into it. Have you ever seen me happier? No, you were having a wonderful night. I was so happy last night. When's the happiest I've ever seen you, Bowen Yang?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Oh, I know. When? When you got the call about Saturday Night Live. You weren't there with me, girl. Yeah, I was there when you got the call and you were beaming. No, I wasn't. You said, this is my dream coming true. This is a lie.
Starting point is 00:30:42 This was not. You looked at me and you said, I can't believe my dream came true. This didn't happen. Yes, it did. I, I need. You smiled. No, no, no. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'm telling you one of the happiest moments I've ever had that you were there for. Was last night. Not last. Well, last night was up there. But I think we did. I think we did a similar doubleheader like three years ago. That was when it was raining outside.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So Busted didn't feel comfortable ending the show. And so she kept us there in the Ice Palace. God bless her and her shelter for like three and a half hours. She just performed. And she must have done Zatarain's. The Zatarain's jingle. If you tip her the right price, she will do the Zatarain's jingle Zatarain's jingle if you tip her the right price she will
Starting point is 00:31:25 do the Zatarain's jingle the right price is $20 by the way sometimes it's more sometimes she's not in the mood that was the first time where she played it no less than 35 times in one night and I cried with joy and you were there for that and that is
Starting point is 00:31:41 one of my happiest moments ever in my life yes can I ask you a question about the Fire Island movie can we get a little critical about it let's get a little critical
Starting point is 00:31:51 and we're not promoting it we're actually being very critical we're being critical I feel like they didn't they the people that made that movie they didn't tackle who are those people
Starting point is 00:31:59 I believe the director was Andrew Ahn Searchlight the writer and star was Joel Kim Booster Bo and Yang was in the movie Torian Miller was in the movie Torian, who I blame most
Starting point is 00:32:12 for this they didn't talk about Planters Punch culture enough I think it's one of those things it would take another 20 minutes for a character to explain what it was. So, do you know what's in the
Starting point is 00:32:27 planter's punch? I can't claim to. We should ask today when we go to tea. All I know is that these girls behind the bar are fitting three different little fucking nozzle things in their
Starting point is 00:32:44 hand. They're juggling back there. It. In their hand. Yeah. They're juggling back there. Yeah. It's Cirque du Soleil. It's got to be rum, vodka, and something. Rum, vodka, and... Tequila? Tequila. No, but like...
Starting point is 00:32:55 Grenadine? Yeah, grenadine for sure. Maybe a little OJ in there. It's a soup. And then what did me in last night was that the whole table got rocket fuels. Oh, yeah. I kept ordering everyone rocket fuels, which is, by the way, a pina colada with a Bacardi 151 floater.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Devastating. Yeah. I was devo. You shouldn't have three. And so I did have three. Soody pointed out the other day, I have a kind of a famous line. Do you want to know what it is? I think I'll know.
Starting point is 00:33:19 When I like a cocktail and I sip it, I said, oh, my God, I love that. I'm going to have three of those. I've heard you say that many times. Many times. When are we getting your famous bloodies? Oh, I guess I forgot to make them. That's okay. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Well, I have to say something. So it's something that's been passed on in generations in my family is like our ability to make bloodies. And then I feel like, and this is not something that I brought up on the episode where we had Patrick Rogers on a couple of weeks ago, but he sipped it. One of my bloodies.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And he said, he looked at me and said, bright. Now, do you think he meant that in a pejorative way? I think he was saying there was too much brine in there. Maybe too much pickle juice, too much,
Starting point is 00:33:59 too much lime juice, maybe, et cetera. I don't mind a bright blood. I want mine to be a little bit bright. Yeah, definitely. But I've been scared to make it for everyone, nor do I think everyone deserves it if I'm just going to be criticized.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Matt, you cannot let one person's opinion get in the way of your talent. Because otherwise, if I let one person's opinion get in the way of my talent, I would wake up every day paralyzed, suffering. Hey, look at me right now. And I want you to hear this. There's people out there that just don't like you. And they never will. And you can't stop for them.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Neither can I. There are people out there, Bowen, they just don't like us. They don't get us. I think they might be right, though. What if they're right? That's what I asked myself. What if these people are right? No, see, you're letting
Starting point is 00:34:49 them get to you. What if your bloody is too bright? I think there's a possibility it was. No. I've never had a bad bloody of yours. You cannot believe these men. Alright, fine. Do you want me to confront you right now, then? Please. When you book a house that's really far away
Starting point is 00:35:06 from the pantry, it makes it impossible for me to make my bloodies. I'm not in control of this, Matt. Are you serious? I'm in so much pain. When you book a house that's really far away from the pantry, Matt, I'm gonna cry. I refuse to carry
Starting point is 00:35:21 groceries that far. Matt, they deliver, you fool. No, they don't. Do they deliver? You pay $5, they'll deliver it. Seriously? Oh, I'm getting on the website right after this. It's as if you weren't even in the damn movie.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Well, they didn't go into the Pines Pantry enough in that movie. This is just me being critical of the movie. I'm not promoting the movie. I didn't think there was enough in the pantry, no. And there wasn't enough Planters Punch culture, And there wasn't enough Planters Punch culture. And there wasn't enough... Busted culture. Yeah. I would have loved to see some real working
Starting point is 00:35:54 girl queens. Because they got the one from Drag Race. Peppermint. And I said, you know, this feels like a money grab. This feels like they wanted to get a big star. And I would have loved to see more authenticity. It's my biggest criticism. Well, there's always the sequel.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Do you think that that will happen? What do you think is the... Hey, this is just me not promoting the movie, just me as a journalist. What do you think the odds are that we'll get a sequel to Fire Island? I can't talk about that at this time. I am on strike.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Oh, okay. Now, there's a lot in the picture. I fucking love this picture. Oh, yeah. We're in a house where there's a lot of lovely, tasteful Tom of Finland and Stevie Nicks mixed with some Stevie Nicks prints. Yeah, there's a lot of really good art in this house. Yeah, it's lovely.
Starting point is 00:36:40 The gays, like, really, really, really, really did a great job. If we're going to see erotic art, I would say I love butt centric and not penis centric. That's personally how I feel. I love like an artful ass like this guy right here. I aspire to be like him. I think you're very close. You think so?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Got the mustache. I might be back in my mustache bag. You think I got that ass? I think you have something close to that ass. Really? Yeah. Stop looking at my butt on vacation, Bowen. Oh, I'm caught in the act.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Bowen is always sort of trying to finger me. No, hey. I think you've brought back fingering into the culture. I love it. Can I say? Open invitation, anyone. Come get me. No, Matt, you don't mean that.
Starting point is 00:37:29 You know, Bowen Yang, one thing that you don't know about Bowen Yang, everyone, is he is a... I'm in my Prude era. You're not in your Prude era. You're in your eye mask era. Honey, game changer. Have you ever worn the Meredith Marks eye shield?
Starting point is 00:37:43 I have, I have. And then I got a little... This is not a knock on Meredith or the manufacturing. I'm just like... I'm used to what I'm used to. Right, right, right. Industrial grade. No, it's not. This eye mask has perfect cushioning on my orbital
Starting point is 00:37:57 bone and there's a nice sort of concave thing for your eyeball so that they're not pressed down. They're really taking over. I was just on vacation with my sister and she wears them. And then she had an extra pair so I
Starting point is 00:38:11 You can't trust the way the sunlight comes in in some of these rooms. You're really right. And so I need to really eliminate variables here. You know what I mean? Please don't criticize and expose me this way. No, it wasn't a criticism.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I just want the readers to get to know you as well as I do. I'm an open book. Imagine this. I get to share a bed with Bo and Yang and I will tell all booty sounds in the night. Come on. He just rolled his eyes
Starting point is 00:38:43 and said, come on. He said, don't tell them about my booty sounds in the night. I'm. He just rolled his eyes and said, come on. He said, don't tell him about my booty sounds in the night. I'm going to have to release an album of booty sounds. Oh my god, an album called Booty Sounds? That's really good. Double entendre! I can't believe I get to share a bed with the Matt
Starting point is 00:38:59 Rogers. Sort of the big heartthrob. Kahuna. Kahuna of gay America. You think I'm the big heartthrob. Kahuna. Kahuna of gay America. You think I'm the big heartthrob of gay America? That feels like too much to take on. I think you're wearing that mantle very well. Oh my god, I know what's gonna happen now. I'm gonna get into drugs.
Starting point is 00:39:16 No. Oh no. I can see it now. My head's gonna get big, I'm gonna get a little bit of success, and I'm gonna get into drugs. Oh no. First weed, then cocaine. Before you know it, I'll be on the beach with naked hung fags screaming about sharks. One thing I'll say, and I do want you to direct this. I do. I would like to write a short film. I want to write a short film for myself where I just run like I'm like a little bit of a queen
Starting point is 00:39:44 on the beach running with my dick flying in the wind, screaming shark, shark, shark, shark, shark. And you think the whole thing is like sort of like a comedy about like this flop on the beach. I want it to be called the jester flop. Yeah. And then at the end, there is a vicious shark attack. And literally.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And then who's the jester flop? And it's the movie ends and it just like sort of pans out from me on the beach. I just start screaming. I told you. I told you. I told you. I said I told you. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And then the credits roll as you still scream. Yeah. And all you hear as the credits are rolling, and there's no music. It's just the sounds of me whimpering, sobbing. I told you. Now, what's going on in the...
Starting point is 00:40:35 Is it just a tight shot on you? We're not seeing, like, the victims of the attack? No, I think we see it in graphic detail. What I would like you to think about as the director of this movie, and I do think it's going to win awards because I think it's actually important. I think it's about how sometimes like...
Starting point is 00:40:50 Belief in truth is so affected by who it's coming from. Right, exactly. And that is the classic Boy Who Cried Wolf. And really, this is an adaptation of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, just like Fire Island. And this is not promotional.
Starting point is 00:41:03 This is just on face value. It was an adaptation of Death of a Salesman. Well, yes. And we can talk about the ways it succeeded and failed. For example, I thought there should have been a lot more Planter's Punch. There should have been a lot more Planter's Punch. But I want this film to be an adaptation of The Boy Who Cried Wolf starring me. And I just want it to be about...
Starting point is 00:41:23 Belief. Belief. Faith. and who we listen to. And you know what they say, look to the hung. Mr. Rogers said in times of disaster, look for the hung. Look for the hung, for it is they who speak the truth. Only the hung. Only the hung. Only the hung.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Only the hung. Only the hung will inherit the earth. Can run. Can run. Only the hung only the hung only the hung only the hung will inherit the earth can run can run only the hung we're mixing a lot of culture here I love it can run
Starting point is 00:41:51 down the beach this is the thing we do best on Lost Culture it's just we take our threads of culture and we really braid them into gorgeous little
Starting point is 00:41:59 pleats the real housewives pleats. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:42:31 The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me
Starting point is 00:43:03 in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
Starting point is 00:43:52 And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:44:38 or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you want to talk about how you have become a great fan of the show, The Morning Show? And I would like to know what you think of the trailer for season three. Have you gotten through the second season? I'm midway through the second season. Tell them what you told me about the first season of The Morning Show.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I was in my pure illness delirium, feeling like there was no hope left in the world. Which is the perfect place to be in to receive the show. And for me to press play on the morning show and be like, all right, let me give this show a try. To be taken back to like 2018, maybe. I guess that's like the time in which this,
Starting point is 00:45:22 this is a period piece and this is the year it takes place. It was the year of Me Too. It was the year of Me Too. It was the year of Me Too. And the way it hooked me I have not experienced since Damon Lindelof's Watchmen. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I was like I'm in. I don't know what it was but I think I have a feeling that the moment that it hooked me was the build up to Reese Witherspoon as Bradley Jackson. Talking in her drawl and with her red hair, as Southern women have. Walking up to Jennifer Aniston, Alex. What's her last name? Levy.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Levy. Walking up to Jennifer Aniston. The moment when they first meet so loaded so well performed the writing touch and go but in the most beautiful way absolutely you never know what you're going to get
Starting point is 00:46:18 and it's I prefer that to and in Just Like That which we'll get to later where I'm like congrats on their third season, by the way. They're coming back. We need to talk about this. I mean, there's so much more story to tell. What I really, what I think every episode of In Just Like That is
Starting point is 00:46:33 wow, there really was so much more story to tell. Yeah, really. I needed more. I needed more. I need a five-year plan for these two characters that I at this point don't care about. I have to say, I am so excited to see how episode to episode they turn Naya into a different character in season three. She's so beautiful to see a character have her mind completely wiped clean and rebooted every episode so that she's a new human being.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I think the third graders are doing something really smart with her. I blame the third graders and not Miss Karen Pittman, who, back to the morning show, is brilliant. Karen Pittman is blameless. It's Rural Culture number 91. Karen Pittman is blameless. Honey. She's not in the writer's
Starting point is 00:47:20 room. If she were, then we wouldn't be in this mess. Karen, if they give you the opportunity to go into the writer's room, change nothing. Karen, it's not you. You know, she's a Bo and Yang stan. She's very lovely on social media. Yeah. I love the girl.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Hey, I just want to reach out to Karen and say, I want to talk to you too. Karen, you and Matt would get along swimmingly. She should come on. Karen, you're invited. And here's the thing. Toss out everything we've said about both shows you're on. We just want to have a conversation, girl. It's just us.
Starting point is 00:47:50 But I actually, I really do feel differently about the morning show than I do about Angel City. The morning show. No, the morning show has it. The morning show saved me in that moment. That deep, dark moment, that dark night of the soul. I was saved by the morning show. I was like, thank God this show exists. It was,
Starting point is 00:48:05 you don't even understand. Actually, I think the readers do understand more than anyone how excited I was when you texted me and said that you were finally watching it. That was, you were pacing, you were pacing. I literally,
Starting point is 00:48:17 I was responding to Bowen's text and I realized I was up out of my chair pacing around. I was like, this is so exciting. You know, I've watched the first season like through four times. I will just watch it. That's so interesting to me because I don't encounter a lot of shows anymore that have a lot of rewatchability to me. I still revert to my Grey's Anatomy episodes, like stuff from like 15 years ago. I don't, nothing in the last 10 years has been like,
Starting point is 00:48:46 let me rewatch. You want to know what though? The morning show is kind of giving early Grey's Anatomy. Absolutely. In many ways. In many ways. In many ways. In the pulp of it.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. The workplace of it all. No one can stop fucking each other. Did I ever tell you what my mom used to say about Grey's Anatomy early seasons when we watched together? What'd she say? She'd say, and this is my Katrina impression,
Starting point is 00:49:08 she'd go, you know what? This show's crazy. This one's having sex with that one. Now this one's having sex with that one. It's like, enough! Enough! This one's sleeping with that one now. They're all sleeping with each other.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Katrina doesn't know about gay culture. I said my mom would hate the gay community. She would hate the gay community. You know what my mom said about Grey's Anatomy? She said I hate faggots? No. That doesn't seem like Meng. She wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:49:39 But my mom... She told me that. I never told you this, but the first time I ever met Meng, she looked me in the eyes and in a perfect English accent. So she's been lying to you. She said, I hate faggots.
Starting point is 00:49:51 She's been lying to me about what? Her accent? Her accent. She doesn't speak like that. Oh my God. She looked me up and down. She said, I hate faggots.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm really sorry. I said, Meng? Sis! I'm so sorry. So I had to say to your mom, I'm really sorry she said that. Meg? Sis! I'm so sorry. So I had to say to your mom, Sis! And then she said,
Starting point is 00:50:09 I'm just playing with you, fucking faggot. Oh, and she doubled down on the word. Yeah. And I winced. And she said, get used to it, clown. She called you a clown?
Starting point is 00:50:19 That was the worst thing she said to me. Oh my God. Perfect English. Perfect English. Oh my God, I gotta call her. Confront her. Con my God. Perfect English. Perfect English. Oh my God. I got to call her. Confront her. Confront her.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I heard you are a liar, mom. Do you want to know what she said about Grey's Anatomy? Yes. She was so hung up about Sandra Oh, to be honest. Oh really? She was like, she doesn't look like a doctor. I was like, mom, what do you mean? She goes, she's too confident.
Starting point is 00:50:45 She's like, she's too comfortable. She doesn't look like a doctor. I was like, mom, what do you mean? She goes, she's too confident. She's too comfortable. She doesn't look like a doctor. Then she widened out the scope. She was like, none of these people look like doctors. I was like, well, mom, they're actors. Actors who play doctors. They're really good looking people. Sometimes doctors are, and sometimes they aren't, but that's okay. Either way, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:51:01 This is a TV show. She said, I don't believe them that one looks 40 she's an intern she was right what who was she talking about there i don't know tr night i don't know so she didn't like the show she stopped watching it she liked the show i think we tried to get her back on especially during code black or no i so that was you and yang watching television with your mother well and that was a show you would all watch together because that's very much how it was well i think yang went off to college right when i like season two was her senior year of high school so like we
Starting point is 00:51:36 got like season two and then she went to college and then i would probably watch it season three and four at home with my mom and i try to hook my mom into it by being like, look mom, the main character's mom has Alzheimer's. You know, grandma has Alzheimer's. We should watch the show. And then she's like, this is not real. And I was like, yeah, well. It's a television show. It's a television show. That's so fascinating.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I'm actually just sitting here thinking to myself, how the fuck did my mother not know I was gay? I refer to Desperate Housewives as, quote, my show. Back then, though? Like a 58-year-old woman. It's always in hindsight that you realize what the gay culture is, especially in that era.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I don't know. It was called Desperate Housewives, and the whole bit was like it's for women, like in a state of emotional duress, and I was a teen boy being like, this is my show. But here's the thing. It was on network TV on Sundays. You could
Starting point is 00:52:27 easily sort of take cover behind that because it was like, well, everyone's watching it, right? True. I mean, everyone did watch it. You gotta look at the numbers. Look at the numbers. You see, there were over 20 mil. We could take cover behind American Idol because everyone was watching it. We could take cover behind Desperate Housewives.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Yeah. What else Housewives. Yeah. What else? Lost. Lost. Absolutely. I wasn't a Lost girl, as you know. Yeah, that's interesting to me. All I know is, all I know is. I think you would have loved Lost.
Starting point is 00:52:55 All I know is we have to go back. I saw the first season. And you weren't hooked? I was hooked. But back then, kids, you had to get the DVDs. And those were expensive. Well, then they would do reruns. They would do summer reruns.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I told you about the moment of culture that made me say culture was for me. Summer reruns? It was season one, episode six of Lost called House of the Rising Sun. It was Daniel Dae Kim's episode. It was Daniel Dae Kim and Yeonjin Kim. It was Yeonjin Kim's episode. It was Son's episode. What's she doing?
Starting point is 00:53:23 She was on a show called Mistresses for a while on ABC so she did work, but she didn't go on to a big career. Like DDK? Not like DDK. DDK the stud. One of the nicest men in the world, by the way. Yeah? Oh my god. I'm sure he's reached out. Loved Fire Island.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Really? Sorry, we can't. This is so annoying to talk about. Well, that's not promotional. That's just facts. He had nice things to say about. He did. Well, what kind of things did he say? Share. This is weird.
Starting point is 00:53:50 No, not the share. He reaches for his phone and then looks at me and goes, this is weird. Oh, wait, I wanted to ask one more thing. Oh,
Starting point is 00:53:58 one thing that's going on in the pop culture that we haven't really talked about with each other because I was on a break and it's really heated up in the last couple of weeks. But what are your thoughts on this reality reckoning and the Bethany Frankel movement to take down Bravo and Andy Cohen and what seems like all of reality television? We briefly talked about this with Sarah. Yeah. I haven't done too much reading up on it. Part of me feels like it's Bethany paying up the ass in PR just to like get this movement going. But I think it's really hard for people to see this and not go like,
Starting point is 00:54:33 this all feels kind of self-serving for one person. Yeah. For two people or however many people. If it's Bethany and Nene, it's like- I have no idea who it is actually, but she's certainly like come out and been out front. She claims to have over a hundred people that are like in the industry that she's going to come out with and like take these people down. And now she started to say things like, I am a woman with nothing to lose. Like once you're on TikTok, like in a closeup saying, I am a woman with nothing to lose and there's nothing more frightening than that. I would agree with you. And it's untrue. You're a wealthy person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:06 With power. Here's my problem with it. It's like, if you just watch her videos, her rants and everything, and she's like talking about the state of things, it's like one thing that she is not doing is owning up to like her responsibility in any of it. She's like, you signed these contracts and then it's unbelievable what they're able to do. It's like, yeah, based on a contract that you signed. Okay. So you were able to read it beforehand. Yeah. You were able to have a lawyer look at it. Then don't sign it. Right. And also it's like, these people are harassed on talk shows and it's all about getting
Starting point is 00:55:43 you to say something bad about other people it's like oh okay what about the option where you don't go on the show this is what i would say if you don't want to be a reality star get another job babe do something else no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to be on reality television. That's where I think this whole thing falls apart. It's not like you guys are like encamped and like forced to be on reality television. Don't go on it and you won't be put in positions that you feel are unfair. What's the reckoning that she's saying is that she's like people are finding out how exploitative it is because we've known that, I feel.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I mean, anyone that's not an idiot has understood that this is a game of exploitation from the very beginning. I don't want to go into like whataboutism, but it's like every contract is exploitative in almost any situation as far as entertainment goes.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Correct. And also it's just like, I mean, here's the thing. You make a deal, right? And even if that deal is with the devil, it's still a deal. You still got something out of it. And I just don't understand like, so she's essentially used these platforms to get her own platform.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So now she's got this huge mouthpiece and everything. And she's just making all these vague claims that when you actually boil it down, I can't believe lawyers are actually telling her like, you have a case and you're right because she literally doesn't. Because when you legally contractually opt into something, those are the terms of the contract. You signed them. And so if you want to say like these contracts need to change, like people need to be aware of what's in them. A, I bet a lot more people are aware than you think.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. And B, what even is changing? I just don't understand what the end game is or what the case is. Yeah. My big question is I can vaguely understand the case. I don't know all the ins and outs, but I don't know what the end game is at all. I think it just she wants to end reality television. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, has anyone actually asked her like, what is your end game here? I wonder. Yeah. I don't know about her. I don't know about her either. I don't know about her.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Also, it's like, if you actually watch the old housewives, it's like watching her talk to Kelly Ben Simone, like watching her talk to kelly ben simone like watching what she did to the way and it's like you're gonna be the one to be like we need to stop like the terrorism of reality television you were the biggest reality you've ruined people's you were a villain on these shows yeah yeah so i just think it's rich yeah you've ruined many of these women's lives anyway i guess listen guess listen to Bethany's podcast. The biggest podcast in the world. Love that
Starting point is 00:58:29 for her. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her?
Starting point is 00:58:46 But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You've told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image,
Starting point is 00:59:26 and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for I Don't Think So, Honey.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You think so? Yeah, don't you? You kind of went off on a big one with her. Yeah, but... I applaud you. Hey, listen, I'm going to do an I Don't Think So, Honey, and this one might get a little gnarly. Okay. Okay? Okay. This is I don't think so, honey. And this one might get a little gnarly. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:27 This is our one minute segment where we take something a minute to rant about something in culture. This is Matt Rogers' I don't think so, honey. And his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, feet and what can happen to them. I look down at my feet and I'm just going to bravely come out here and say I am
Starting point is 01:01:43 recovering from athlete's foot. And being on vacation has done something absolutely horrible and disgusting to my feet. If you are interested in feet, you're going to want to stay away from mine. If you are a podiatrist or a foot doctor, I really need you to tell me what's a good, I guess, foot cream. Because I cannot get rid of my athlete's foot. I think it has something to do with my... 30 seconds. What I've been told is a little bit of a dirty shower. cream because I cannot get rid of my athlete's foot. I think it has something to do with my,
Starting point is 01:02:05 um, 30 seconds. What I've been told is a little bit of a dirty shower. Um, I think I need to get one of these girls over to clean the shower. Um, I don't think feet, uh, look good,
Starting point is 01:02:16 smell good, are good. One time during the pandemic, I was hooking up with a guy and I put his big toe in my mouth and we looked at each other in the eyes and both realized that feet were not going to be for either of us for the rest of my life and his. I also just want to say that if that boy is out there, you better be
Starting point is 01:02:32 really thankful my foot is not in your mouth right now because woo baby. Woo baby. That's one minute. I'm glad you tried it though on him. Have you done foot? I've not done foot, but every now and then I look at someone's foot and go, that's a good foot.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Who do you think has the best foot in the house? You're going to think I'm crazy. What? I think you've got really good feet. I'm not like... This is insane. I want you to look at it. You and Patrick Rogers have good feet. Here, look in between my toes. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I ain't doing all that. I want you to... Come here. Just get up and look at them. He's getting over and you can touch them. Look in between my toes. I'm not going to do that. I ain't doing all that. Come here. Just get up and look at them. He's getting over and you can touch them. Look in between. Now look at the other one. That's the good one? Yeah, that's the good one. Aren't they horrible?
Starting point is 01:03:22 They're literally so bad. Matt has some rough feet. I think mine are... They're rotted and gutted. I think mine are quite nice. I always thought you had good feet. You have a thick foot. You know who has a gorgeous foot with a gorgeous arch?
Starting point is 01:03:35 A gorgeous arch is Aaron Jackson. Aaron? Who has a funny story. He had a dance teacher in college who walked around the room, looked at Aaron's feet, looked at his arch, and went, what a waste. Oh my god. Where is he? Can we get him in here? Let's get him in here. Aaron?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Aaron! Maybe he's by the pool. Maybe he went on a walk. Turn around and see if he's by the pool. Where is he? He is not by the pool. Oh, Jesus. Alright. Hold on. Alright, so Bowen is going to go grab Aaron. Is Aaron here? Aaron?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Did they leave? Aaron? Okay, so he's just going to go grab Aaron Jackson. Aaron left? He left. He might have gone to the beach. Is no one here? There are some people here.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But none of them have good feet. I don't want to bother them. Who was up there? I think Patrick. Patrick was up there? Patrick was up there. Was Dave up there? I think Dave. Oh, Dave has to catch the ferry. Oh, no. We better wrap up. We better wrap up.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So Bowen's going to do his I Don't Think So Honey and then we have to say goodbye to our friend. Okay. So Bowen, this is your I Don't Think So Honey. This is your chance to rail against something in culture that's just not for you. You ready? Bone Yang, your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Towels in the laundry.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Just to relate this to Matt's, I don't think so, honey. This is how mold starts. This is where mold begins. And it doesn't end there because it doesn't end anywhere. Oh my God, getting mold out is one of the hardest things that humanity has ever attempted to do because
Starting point is 01:05:07 towels in the laundry are undryable. No dryer in the world can get towels just right. I don't care how state of the art it is. I don't care what kind of whirlpool, you know, fucking Oster.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I don't know what the appliances are anymore. These towels, I think we got to figure out a solution for towels because these towels, these Terry towels are impossible. They are a scourge on domestic life.
Starting point is 01:05:40 We need a new solution. We need absorbent towels that can dry easily. We have the technology. The government's hiding it from us. And that's one minute. You came for the government. It's always about them. Oh, someone last night was at Head of Lettuce and had asked what they did.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And then this person answered in an appropriately vague way. He said infrastructure. He said government. And then the whole room went, ooh. Mm-hmm. The government's not having a good moment right now. Mm-hmm. And then he said infrastructure specifically.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And Hedda said, there is no infrastructure. This whole country's falling apart. Yeah. And she ate when she said that. She ate. How many letters are in devoured? Eight. Eight.
Starting point is 01:06:21 What's four plus four, Beau? Eight. And with that thought, we're going to wrap up this episode, which is called Fag Sees a Shark. The Fag Who Cried Shark. The Fag Who Cried Shark. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm proud of this episode. Very proud of this episode. I think it was. Honest. Honest, real. It was an honest conversation, but honest in a different way than,
Starting point is 01:06:44 you know, Charizard era honest conversation was, in a different way than you know Charizard era honest conversation was this was we're on vacation we're a little bit fried from our month we've had big months
Starting point is 01:06:52 both of us and we've seen and done so much did I talk about Kelly enough I think you talked about Kelly just enough it was one of the best concerts I've ever seen
Starting point is 01:06:59 in my life and I was so emotional throughout you can go to my Instagram and see how emotional I was I was weeping the only thing that would have made it better
Starting point is 01:07:05 was my sister's presence. We'll have more. But the bacteria got him. The bacteria got me, but we will have more opportunities to go to concerts. I love you so much. I'm so glad you're with me.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I love you, dear. You've been my dearest roommate. I'm so proud of us for being with you. And we have still one more day. Can't wait. We end every episode with a song. When did it end? All the
Starting point is 01:07:29 enjoyment. I'm sad again. Don't tell my boyfriend. It's not what he's made for. What was I made for? Hear more of that?
Starting point is 01:07:51 Just go on TikTok, honey. Everyone's doing it. Bye. At Queenie Lock, The Voice. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Starting point is 01:08:44 Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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